veteran-class

[old quail]

im glad they removed it but it shouldve never been in the game

[terse idol]

Its the fated voc tax that's pretty cheap

[strange sparrow]

I mean it mean a lot of breakpoint but do yall just don't do enough damage

[bitter turtle]

It's literally the difference between taking a fully decked out keystone vs having nothing

[serene sage]

the freak? I nearly always top my damage chart

[bitter turtle]

That's how much you are punished by tree pathing for taking infil

[serene sage]

the few exceptions where they can beat me is plasma/revolver/kickback or the rare good surge psykers

[hearty panther]

frankly there's just not nearly enough shooters on the map to care about XStance the way we used to

[terse idol]

Hmm

[hearty panther]

like it even highlights scab stalkers now, and nobody cares

[strange sparrow]

No Im asking why people would take Exec Stance, it's just a flat increment on potential damage for 5 seconds and potentially infinity

[terse idol]

Disagree

[hearty panther]

there's such a glut of gunners instead and that's a universal priority target

[drifting oak]

more like the weapons we have can already kill gunners

[hearty panther]

that you don't need a guy to just be focusing on shooters

[bitter turtle]

If infil was where exec was ppl would be taking it plenty

[drifting oak]

so there's no need to pump damage with exec stance anyway

[terse idol]

There are usually enough gunner spawns that you can use exe and get plenty enough resets so they aren't shooting your team

[strange sparrow]

I mean, Do you really need Exec stances to kill gunner thou

[hearty panther]

sure but anybody can identify, tag, and kill a gunner

[terse idol]

Heavy gunners are a priority but like scab and dredge regular gunners and important, it's also just nice to be able to 1-2 tap gunners from far away with exe

[bitter turtle]

That's the problem with exec imo

[hearty panther]

what vet did that was unique was cut the visual noise for shooters and take those guys out fast, and now that's just not a big deal anymore

[serene sage]

well body shotting gunners feel good and can be done reliably with exec stance

[midnight totem]

If you're going to go that route

[bitter turtle]

Guns hit their own breakpoints easy now

[serene sage]

again, not counting revolver and plasma cause they are stupid

[bitter turtle]

I don't need exec to 1 tap with v7 so why would I take it

Or hb

[drifting oak]

bolter build, pls r8
Do I need 30% weakspot damage on the left to make breakpoints

[hearty panther]

and since three of four classes have revolvers now that can kill three gunners a bullet, like, what's x stance doing for you that's really unique?

and the fourth class has a kickback deleting the screen

[terse idol]

If we speak of the standard class composition
Vet, psyker, og, Zeal
Then like vet stil has incredible range options comparatively

[midnight totem]

Do we really need (insert anything here) for (insert other thing here)

[terse idol]

That is assuming everyone runs a revolver

They don't

[strange sparrow]

Because a mag of Columnus can easily shred like 6 gunner in a row

[serene sage]

the only way to know is to test.
i do know my build needs it to one tap headshot non-crit dreg gunner

[strange sparrow]

without anything to begin

half a mag for crusher vice versa

[hearty panther]

comparatively yeah but speaking strictly in terms of like, the output you need to actually be useful, all classes already meet the threshhold

[terse idol]

Columnus I would also argue benefits from exe to take out things that are further out of its effective range

[strange sparrow]

Do you really really need Exec stances to hit that one shot one kill

just to feel good

[hearty panther]

^

[terse idol]

Yeah

[hearty panther]

like nahcies is saying

[terse idol]

[hearty panther]

you just dont ... need it is the truth

[tiny summit]

You need Longshot to kick in for a grey hb mk1 to 1 tap a dreg gunner below 80 dmg

[serene sage]

no kill like overkill

[hearty panther]

i still wont say it's a shit ult or anything

[strange sparrow]

I mean that's what people do, It's a feel good ability.

[hearty panther]

but it's not doing much

[bitter turtle]

I mean that is using a Grey tho

[terse idol]

Its not a bad ult

[hearty panther]

not anything you couldn't already do

[terse idol]

Is what I'm getting at

But you do have a point

[bitter turtle]

That doesn't have good rolls

[strange sparrow]

I have a lot of difficulty running Auric Mael with Exec Stances

[bitter turtle]

On a gun easy to roll for

[strange sparrow]

And people just say get good

[hearty panther]

for me the laughs came after playing so much DD Psyker

[terse idol]

I just think exe stance let's you identify and take out some Key targets out like gunners faster while people just do more important things

I dunno

[strange sparrow]

I dont know, you telll me to get better ig

[drifting oak]

looks like you need it

[hearty panther]

in theory, and totally in practice, too

[serene sage]

nah, me too
i think it's harder to pull off
it's team dependent imo

[hearty panther]

but not to a degree that i think makes it all that impactful

[serene sage]

not to say it's "unusable" it's just more volatile than other 2 ults

[bitter turtle]

I think team dependent just indicates that it's not a very good skill tbh

The other two can carry a run

[serene sage]

I mean sure, ig

[drifting oak]

ehhhh i mean there's the infiltrate raking fire autogun builds that are hilarious

[strange sparrow]

I don't trust my team because I solo queue Mael Auric

[terse idol]

Gonna say the funny thing but a scoreboard of green means little to me considering the game is team focused

🥹

[old quail]

exe stance was fantastic when everyone played like a cover shooter and thought you had to engage ranged enemies from a distance, then when the meta settled it was used mostly for stupid autopistol w+m1 unwavering focus

[terse idol]

I mean

[old quail]

now it's kinda eh, like it's cool and it shines with certain weapons (love it on bolter) but it's lost a lot of value

[drifting oak]

nah that's more that people discovered

[south garnet]

maelstroms in general are incredibly team dependent ime

[drifting oak]

or rather no

[terse idol]

It still can be helpful

[drifting oak]

It's not that the meta settled.

[old quail]

it's much more weapon specific

[drifting oak]

It's that suppression got fixed

to actually affect enemies

[tiny summit]

Well yea I would still say "get good" with exe in auric because yea exe will require some coordination and positioning while VoC kinda just let's you run through

[drifting oak]

Enemies went from just murdering you without giving a fuck to "if you are firing autopistol rounds anywher in their vicinity they get fully stunlocked"

[midnight totem]

Okay, the vet channel has concluded. Nerf voc. Buff infiltrate and exe stance. The latter now spawns a legionary of the damned behind every ranged and elite opponent on the screen to boltgun them in the face

[old quail]

infiltrate doesn't need a buff in the slightest

[bitter turtle]

Nah infil doesn't really need buffs

[old quail]

it's really strong at what it does

[bitter turtle]

Surv just needs rework

Lol

[terse idol]

Bur does anybody play like this

Surv needs to be killed

[bitter turtle]

And smokes need to be gone

[terse idol]

Destory it

NOOOO

Smokes are fun

[drifting oak]

um, yes?

[terse idol]

Fuck oofff

[crude ermine]

Replace smoke grenades with kitchen utensils

[bitter turtle]

Surv is a ridiculously overpowered aura compared to any other aura on any other tree

[serene sage]

nah, give me a reserve of like 8 smokes with a 30s regen speed for stockpile

[drifting oak]

not usually with the autopistol but i see lots of autogun gamers

[bitter turtle]

Should just be a vet passive

[serene sage]

and ill use it

[terse idol]

Oh

[drifting oak]

auto suppression is very noticeable

[old quail]

the much much much more impactful change was the gradual fixes to ranged enemies engaging you in melee

[terse idol]

People play stunlock builds?

[strange sparrow]

Coordination and Positioning while a poxburster just spawn behind you because you didn't realize there's a door

[serene sage]

smoke every where, you eat smoke, you breathe smoke

[terse idol]

That's crazy

[serene sage]

you can't see shit the enemy can't see shit

[strange sparrow]

I hate you

[drifting oak]

if you run at a pack of gunners with an autogun they will just dance around until your mag runs dry

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-fill-his-stocking-with-coal-mods-christmas-lowtiergod-ltg-gif-12645377823045477295

[midnight totem]

That would make that one penance ridiculously stupid to do

[old quail]

i played tons of zealot, you didn't have to suppress enemies to get into melee

[tiny summit]

"You didn't realize there's a door"

Sounds like positioning and getting good

[serene sage]

you won't. trust me, buff smokes to have insane reserve and regen speed

[old quail]

a big part of it was a mindset thing where ppl would just refuse to melee them and then get mad when vets werent killing them fast enough

[drifting oak]

smokes just need a "direct hit" effect

[serene sage]

and suddenly vet freethinkers will flock to smoke like flies to shit

[bitter turtle]

I'd rather not sacrifice balancing for the sake of maintaining a dumb penance lul

Just rework the penance

[terse idol]

Smokes just

[drifting oak]

like a damage amp debuff on the enemy

[strange sparrow]

For real, just get better with Exec flat increment on Dps

[terse idol]

Need to block snipers

[tiny summit]

I'm jk man. Just don't overreact and think running exe is griefing

[midnight totem]

I'd rather that too lol

[drifting oak]

yeah it's fucked that snipers literally see through smoke

like WHAT IS THE POINT THEN

[bitter turtle]

Fire team and movespeed are actually good auras if you compare to other classes

[strange sparrow]

I tried to run Exec, and even ask at a certain point on how to build it

but people just give me shit for it

[bitter turtle]

But they get memed on by surv

[terse idol]

Running recon is griefing running exe stance on things like columnus is a good choice

[strange sparrow]

[serene sage]

wait i thought you're in japan rn or something

[terse idol]

I literally have exe and focus target on a columnus and it's treating me well

[tiny summit]

Wrong one

[bitter turtle]

Nah in 2 days actually lol

[serene sage]

nah that's the right one

[bitter turtle]

Not home rn though

[midnight totem]

Me running exec to hipfire and delete a crusher and mauler brigade

[strange sparrow]

And it goes back to my question overall, without VoC
getting back toughness on Veteran just suck

[serene sage]

okay hobo, have fun in japan. never been but maybe one day 😭

[tiny summit]

This is what I use with my hb mk1. I like it and have success with it

[terse idol]

Oh without VOC...

Uh

Take marksmens focus

[bitter turtle]

It's cheap to travel to Japan if you ever consider it

My new York trip costed more

[terse idol]

Boom free toughness regain

[strange sparrow]

People : Just don't get hit

[umbral garnet]

Exec Stance with this thing?

[terse idol]

Never said that

But okaayyy

[umbral garnet]

A fucking murderer.

[tiny summit]

Headshotting gunners and my toughness regen is faster than them shooting me

[strange sparrow]

Nah someone else previously

[serene sage]

git gud.

[midnight totem]

I want it

[terse idol]

That's what I'm running

Although I only got t3 of those perks

[strange sparrow]

I will tried to run it into auric later

Gonna take a breather after 19th Psword no Pcycler

[terse idol]

Its pretty alright to snipe shotgunners, gunners, reapers

[strange sparrow]

[terse idol]

Before they become trouble

[serene sage]

my weirdest fear is when people took me for their native countrymen and talked to me in a foreign language.
happened way too many times over the years.
like i get that im approachable and good looking but please don't assume my gender nationality

[umbral garnet]

"Oh hey, an entire spawn of snipers/shotties/gunners. Let me just... [Painting priority targets!]"

[midnight totem]

Your a mudkip

[serene sage]

i am pettable

(not really)

[midnight totem]

Mudkip mudkip?

[strange sparrow]

MarksMan Focus

How do you play this

[bitter turtle]

Everything is also in English in Tokyo anyway

Not that they speak it well

[terse idol]

Oh whew

[strange sparrow]

and I assume Catch a breath is to regen toughness out of combat?

[serene sage]

nah it's in combat, just distance based

[terse idol]

I took a tour of Japan from like the south end to the north end and i mean I gotta say... not knowing Japanese made things abiiiiit harder

[serene sage]

it's quite good imo, though I do know people tend to differ in opinions regarding it

[tiny summit]

Same way as you would play normally. You get bonuses off headshots or the moments you can in fact don't need to move. In a game of Darktide in horde moments there's plenty of times where you just don't need to move while you are in a good position to shoot. Just keep clicking heads and having good positioning and you'll get your bonuses

[strange sparrow]

I hardly have breathing room in Auric Mael

[terse idol]

Uh team issue

[serene sage]

I do. and I play exclusively AT5/M

[terse idol]

If you're nearby your team

And they can't melee things off you or themselves

Its fuuucked

[serene sage]

you almost always have room to breath, 8m is not that big

[terse idol]

You are expected to hold your own even with a ranged build though

[serene sage]

like find a corner and literally take a breath, fall back a little

[strange sparrow]

My teammate just like to die alot ok

[umbral garnet]

Power Sword with PC and Brutal Momentum. Hordes? Yaaaawn

But PS is so mind-numbingly boring.

[tiny summit]

Yes. I don't exactly care about the other. Or good positioning you'll still regen

[serene sage]

well I quickplay too bro

[golden nacelle]

Chain sword is better

my opinion

[serene sage]

this isn't a git gud moment, this is a genuine I think Catch a Breath is better than people think

I unironically take it over get back in the fight

[terse idol]

Oh

Maybe I'll try it

[golden nacelle]

it depends on your playstyle

[serene sage]

also, it helps for clutching

[terse idol]

I'm allergic to >enemy outside of Xm
Talents

[serene sage]

when people die

[terse idol]

So I domt give them a try

[serene sage]

since you don't have coherency regen

[umbral garnet]

I always run catch-a-breath.

[strange sparrow]

It's quite interesting that you use Marksman Focus, I think it could work considering how much toughness issue I ran into

[umbral garnet]

It's baller

[serene sage]

like very simple, instal custom HUD mod, move your buff bar to the middle of the screen, and look at how often Catch a Breath is active

[tiny summit]

8m is some distance but I find there's plenty of times you can make use of it

[serene sage]

barring hordes, it's up quite often

[tiny summit]

Ew. Center hud elements

[serene sage]

it makes moving through corridors a breeze

[strange sparrow]

I always have center hud element

Psychopath moment

[tiny summit]

Disgusting

[strange sparrow]

Tracking all the stacks

[serene sage]

🤝

[fleet garden]

if you have played wow

[serene sage]

based

[golden nacelle]

get back in the fight is very good also though, for certain builds

[fleet garden]

hud in the middle is nothing tbh

[terse idol]

I played wow

[umbral garnet]

8m is barely a rock throw when you realise how often you're miles away from roamers during particular area transitions.

[terse idol]

And yeah

[fleet garden]

you have a billion weakauras popping off with 20 sounds

[golden nacelle]

I think its better in closer ranges

[terse idol]

Its just better to have the important things in the middle

[strange sparrow]

I doubt I will be using Psword for the Exec Build right

Feel it's not really compatible ?

[terse idol]

Real psyopaths are the devs who thought putting everything in the top left hand corner was a good idea

[strange sparrow]

Dclaw IV or Rashad is better?

[umbral garnet]

It's absolutely disgusting no matter what playstyle.

[terse idol]

Rashad

[fleet garden]

my sod ui atm, with procs under my hp bar

[terse idol]

When you minmax it

[serene sage]

yeah I think people always judge talents based on horde moments, which I don't blame them, those moments are dangerous.
but a little QoL just for moving around the map clearing static encounters is nice
especially when you have to pick between two equally bad talents anyway

[fleet garden]

migth do the same with custom ui mod in darktide

[tiny summit]

You can. PS still good but Rashad has no setup and dclaw for rager parries. But I run hb mk1. The bayonet is my main melee

[terse idol]

I guess it's especially good for counter firing gunners

[terse idol]

Powerr

[umbral garnet]

Correct. Get back in the fight would be busted as fuck if you got damage reduction, I think, but that is not the case.

[strange sparrow]

How do you deal with Crusher with this build too

[serene sage]

you mad dump them

just full send it

[umbral garnet]

SHOOT THE HEAD

BRAPAPAPAPAPPAP

[strange sparrow]

[tiny summit]

Headshot them. Grenade them. Whip out you actual melee

[serene sage]

the melee in question is a dclaw

[terse idol]

Oh

[umbral garnet]

PARRY THE CONCRETE HAMMER

[terse idol]

Parry them

Overhead constantly

[tiny summit]

Crushers tend to be dealt with before they close for me with this build. And when they are close? Grenade and make space.

[strange sparrow]

I don't really want to run Psword on this build, (No Pcycler Vet here)

[fleet garden]

im just used to such uis

[terse idol]

I did have to clutch a game yesterday (on 4) and overhead a buncha crushers after my team died

[serene sage]

parry doesn't do much since hand canon got fixed but I can agree with overhead yeah

[terse idol]

Rashad when the crusher

[tiny summit]

Rashad will do fine

[serene sage]

still probably one of the worse melee weapons at killing crushers

[umbral garnet]

My lovely XIIg chainsowrd and heavyu revs

[terse idol]

Devil claw just isn't too good for that it's why rashad is insane

[serene sage]

What's your in game toughness/health?

I'm hovering at 170/231 I think

[wraith locust]

no worries power sword sucks anyways

[serene sage]

I hate PS

[wraith locust]

rashad users rise up

[tiny summit]

I can't even be mad with this pfp

[wraith locust]

i love pressing one mb the whole game

[strange sparrow]

226/156

Im not into HP gaming, just don't get your toughness broken

[serene sage]

Weak

My vet can beat up your vet

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/sadge-cliff-sad-saaadge-gif-18209034

Oh boi.

[serene sage]

I hate scab only and melee so I never play em

[umbral garnet]

The largest downside for using exec is the utter downgrade in survivability.

[serene sage]

Just don't get hit

[umbral garnet]

Funny VoC panic option VS actually having to be good in melee

[spice gate]

The chainaxes look fun to use!

[south garnet]

.

[bright cliff]

nah dude if I don’t have to press a whole street fighter combo worth of buttons to clear small groups then the melee weapon isnt worth using

[terse idol]

Rashad when you left click 3 times to kill

The combo

[spice gate]

Bread

N

Butter

[bright cliff]

“the combo” equivalent of button mashing

[terse idol]

Huh?

I mean I use the new knife

There is like

It isn't that deep

[bright cliff]

I would use the rashad except I can’t get over the lack of variety. the numbers look great but I just cant get into it even when I want to

[spice gate]

As long as you like it, use it!

[tidal wedge]

if you play well with it, it's competitive

[bright cliff]

no I’ve seen people be successful with it. just not for me ig

[terse idol]

[tidal wedge]

I have this with the force sword for psyker

just can't get the right feel for it

so I go MKIV dueling

[bright cliff]

if I build crit psyker and use a crit recon lasgun I can convince myself I’m a zealot using the devil’s claw

[marsh condor]

Hm.

[eternal sable]

can taste it omg

1600 hours 😦

[serene bough]

touchgrass.gif

[eternal sable]

ill touch your ass

[spice gate]

But what if they’re allergic to grass?

[serene bough]

Please don't do that

[eternal sable]

hows that sound bub?

thats what i thought

[serene bough]

Skill issue

[spice gate]

Oh I thought that said BAM

I’m an idiot

[tidal wedge]

still funny

[spice gate]

True! Still is!

[serene bough]

I would also bludgeon someone with a hammer for unironically saying skill issue

[idle swallow]

Touch grass, straight to jail. Right away.

[tidal wedge]

I literally have a pot with grass on my desk

I'm touching it rn

[serene sage]

That sounds gay ngl

[terse idol]

skill issue but we smash their knee caps as a response

😌

[eternal sable]

i hope so

[idle swallow]

https://y.yarn.co/e75a8db8-2227-4d30-94a7-37b17bf7212f_text.gif

[serene sage]

I also have a pot on my desk

Sometimes it has grass

Sometimes it doesn't

[terse idol]

When the hay fevers

[junior needle]

Grass is not enough, I need to touch grace

[terse idol]

[terse idol]

Inshallah brother

[junior needle]

Who is Inshallah, and why is he a brother

[terse idol]

[serene bough]

I think that's the emperors brother

[tidal wedge]

Can't stop me

[serene bough]

Insalad

[serene sage]

In marshal law

[sharp ember]

oh my god

[serene sage]

Honestly, grass is overrated

Stepping on it is okay

Lying on it is itchy as heck

And it takes tons of maintenance

[sharp ember]

touch banana leaf

now that’s a plant

[tidal wedge]

grass lawns are F tier for sure. But wild grass is pretty comfy imo

[serene sage]

Both sucks. Though wild moss mats are god tier.

But moss isn't grass

Don't recommend lying on moss, but stepping on them is legit orgasmic

[tidal wedge]

moss is the best

[tidal wedge]

I have a pot with moss as well lol

[serene sage]

The fuk

I didn't know it was.possible to grow moss artificially

[spice gate]

It’s a crazy world!

[tidal wedge]

there's a bunch of species that don't need constant moisture

[serene sage]

I need a hobby

[tidal wedge]

but my entire appartment is just a jungle

[serene sage]

I need to look into this

[tidal wedge]

go for it, it's not hard

very slow tho... moss

this chat was once about the veteran class

[serene sage]

Veteran = old farmers

It's the same

[tidal wedge]

ye

[spice gate]

Farming with lasguns!

[untold flame]

Farmin kdr

[crude ermine]

Gotta melk the cow

[spice gate]

And get the eggs!

[marsh condor]

Plough the field with plasma or grenades.

[serene bough]

Seems lore accurate

Plant a grenade to grow a grenade tree

[spice gate]

Krak to get rid of weevils on the corn

[marsh condor]

Reap the hordes of wheat with power swords.

For weed control, chainswords or chainaxes.

[wraith locust]

@serene sage i just got hit 3 times ina row

in the scab monstrosity

by poxbursters

i swear they made them more quiet

or something

or other noises are taking prio

[junior needle]

Seems to be a lot of issues with the sound

Melee hits from chaffe don't even play all the time

Only like every other hit

[tidal wedge]

it's a bug

[tawdry hull]

what are the op toughtness damage reduction skills?

[wraith locust]

is it confirmed?

like its something theyre aware of

[tidal wedge]

I record my matches sometimes and there are 100% times where poxbursters make 0 sounds

[wraith locust]

ah gotcha

yea

[tidal wedge]

not sure

[wraith locust]

i should start recording

and submit a bug

repot or something

this is infuriating

imagine getting hit by poxbursters

in 2023

soon to be 2024

[tidal wedge]

it's pretty rare for me the last couple weeks

not sure what triggers the problem

[junior needle]

All of them, you should take both. Then there's the small nodes.

[tawdry hull]

what is the name?

[tidal wedge]

all of them

[tawdry hull]

ive found only 1 small node there is more than 1? o:

[junior needle]

I never looked, could just be the 1

There's 2

One 5% and one 10%

[tidal wedge]

there's at least one that give's up to 70% reduction at full toughness I believe

[junior needle]

50% if above 75% health

iron will

[tidal wedge]

yeah that one

I think it used to be stronger... or am I just misremembering?

[white minnow]

iron will is essentially the new version of Unwavering Focus, which was 75% toughness DR during your ult

[hearty panther]

Yeah, in a sense.

[spice gate]

So many good skills to pick, but only 30 to take.
There’s always a lot of compromise in these things

[brisk sapphire]

Wish I didn't feel compelled to always take voice. Not only is it his best ult, grenade regen is along the path too...

[wraith locust]

voice is just too good in pubs

[hearty panther]

Toughness Overheal is busted

[marsh condor]

You're basically yelling angrish.

[spice gate]

Also let’s you get field improvisation. Love how much that one does

[south garnet]

fucking fatshark and their jank ass mangy duct tape covered toilet bowl lookin ass rental servers

[spice gate]

You’re yelling LOOOOOOOOORE

[terse idol]

forego the voc

Aquire Infil

and weapon spec

[brisk sapphire]

I run specialist with revolver and plasma

It's honestly the only vet keystone I find fun

[idle swallow]

IF YOU CAN BREATHE, YOU CAN KILL

[wind echo]

so when are we getting the plague marine boss fight?

[steady cedar]

A plague marine would have to be a whole event thing like the Twins

And it'd be even harder to kill

[strange grove]

Just tossing this out here, for everyone to bask in awe

[rain badger]

Recon las scrubs out in full force today.

[rain badger]

Mad jelly

[untold mulch]

I so want to use it

[eternal sable]

79 stability 79 stopping power its bricked

you are missing out on the major breakpoints

redo

[spice gate]

So what’s wrong with recon lasguns?

[strange grove]

They need love. Like the bolter

[hearty panther]

they dont really do anything uniquely good/great

thats their flaw

bolter can at least shit out insane DPS in a magazine if you just hold left-click

[untold mulch]

Damage is subpar, ammo economy is trash

[clever niche]

Are weapons shared between 2 different vet characters?

[hearty panther]

no

[untold mulch]

No to my knowledge

inventory is character sided

[clever niche]

Bummer

There goes my plan to create another vet

[spice gate]

Aaah I see. They use a lot of ammo and don’t have the highest damage!
So they’re kinda harder to use!
Admittedly they still seem fun with the rapid fire mode

[clever niche]

I’d recommend Columnus IAG for rapid dakka

Good attributes all round except more recoil

[terse idol]

The columnus is probably one of the best guns for close-mid range in the game

[untold mulch]

They are fun to use, but the TTK for the ammo you have is just

No,

[spice gate]

TTK?

And that autogun seems awesome! I’ll have to keep it in mind! Thank you

[rain badger]

They could be better, just more frustrated at the player talking trash than what weapon he was using.

[clever niche]

Still can’t beat Agripinaa IAG in my eyes

[untold mulch]

Like I run a T2 to get the bells for the event and even then the VIIa felt terrible

[untold mulch]

Time To Kill

[terse idol]

disagreeeee

[strange grove]

That and Vraks7 are my jam

[spice gate]

Aaah yeah. Trash talk can be bad

[spice gate]

Oh okay! Thank you

[clever niche]

Columnus is nice until you want to target something far away

[marsh condor]

Speaking of Agripinaa IAG, what's a good blessing set for it?

[clever niche]

I have dum dum and power 3rd 4th shot

[untold mulch]

Counter Strike barrels

I've seen autoguns go in a 45º angle out of the barrel

[marsh condor]

Sustained Fire?

[clever niche]

I suppose? Short burst gives great bonus

[marsh condor]

Hm.

Okay.

[terse idol]

This iss why I run exec some rn
And worse case, crouch and tap

[marsh condor]

Unrelated, I feel like the Autopistol just got by with blessings that could fit with the IAG and BAG.

[terse idol]

Feew targets are something that a columnus will struggle on, snipers though are it's weakness

[clever niche]

Vraks VII is godlike but horrible against maniac. Lack of auto hinders it further

[clever niche]

Killing snipers in a tight spot doesn’t allow crouch and tap

[terse idol]

Yuh

Still

I stand by mah statement

[clever niche]

Personal preference

[marsh condor]

As a Zealot, I thought of putting Raking Fire on my IAG (after sacrificing my Aggri IAG to Hadron).

[terse idol]

Instantly deletes anything in close range

[spark helm]

anyone run these? want to know what might be worth just burning for a blessing pool for later and anything that it shares?

[marsh condor]

I heard Columnus IAG is a good weapon, but I also considered putting it on Graia.

[clever niche]

Tempting for sure, but I’ll trade less rate of fire for more accuracy

Hence

Agripinaa my beloved

[terse idol]

[clever niche]

Columnus is Minimi for sure

[marsh condor]

I noticed that Graia shares the same base damage with Columnus.

[clever niche]

Graia is in between agri and column

But i prefer extra oomf on agri

Can kill gunner with a short burst at long range

[forest scaffold]

graia is funny

therefor

it is the best brauto

[marsh condor]

Was talking about IAG.

[forest scaffold]

Oh

All three of them are good

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[marsh condor]

Was trying to pick which one for my Gun Zealot.

[forest scaffold]

colomnus is generally the best due to its interactions with critical hit chance.

[clever niche]

Where do you find your zealot?

[spark helm]

What we doin with shovels? 👀

[forest scaffold]

Blazing Piety Zealot with Colomnus is great.

[clever niche]

Mid line, frontline?

[forest scaffold]

Because you get +25% crit chance permanently

[marsh condor]

Mid line.

[forest scaffold]

and Colomnus has crit strings of 4

and the nutso finesse damage of IAGs

I suggest Blazing Piety+Colomnus IAG

[clever niche]

Do you find yourself picking off gunners or snipers afar?

[marsh condor]

Though I also do backline (will explain) and frontline

[forest scaffold]

regardless of how you play your zealot

cause the colomnus will do everything

[marsh condor]

Yes

[forest scaffold]

quick swapping like revolver, picking enemies off at range

[clever niche]

Then agri…stable enough to tap tap

[marsh condor]

For why I'm sometimes at the backlines, rear guard duty

[spark helm]

just bumping it back for feedback. haven't had a nice shovel roll in a while and this is the boi i want.

[forest scaffold]

Why are we backlining as zealot

no seriously

first we need to address this issue

you're not counterfire vet

[marsh condor]

I am PROTECTING that Veteran

[forest scaffold]

Fuck him

if he dies, he dies

give him the rocky treatment

[clever niche]

The fuck?

[forest scaffold]

You should be killing everything as soon as it pops up, getting into the thick of it with your melee.

[clever niche]

He’s supposed to be protecting you

[marsh condor]

Well, also that every now and then, we all died because no one checked the back

[forest scaffold]

If the vet dies to a single poxwalker

that's not something you can prevent

[old quail]

but u can tbag him to improve morale

[marsh condor]

It's funny the first few times, but it gets incredibly common for me

[terse idol]

I mean at the end of the day, especially after I've played marksmen abit

Veterans just gotta shoot sometimes but sitll be able to defend themselves in melee

Can't expect your team to

Literally get everything off you

[marsh condor]

I'm also running stealth.

[forest scaffold]

But yeah, I highly suggest:

Chastise the Wicked>Blazing Piety>Crit Cooldown Reduction>Colomnus IAG

on zealot if you want to use an IAG.

[clever niche]

It’s a veteran, not Outcast engineer

[forest scaffold]

Its the statistically best choice.

[clever niche]

You don’t need babysitting

[forest scaffold]

In every situation.

Throw on a crusher too for your melee weapon.

[marsh condor]

Last reason, and probably THE main reason.

[forest scaffold]

And be a frontliner.

[marsh condor]

Books

[marsh condor]

I use a knife.

[forest scaffold]

actually pain

[marsh condor]

For bleed.

[terse idol]

bleed just

Isn't good my man

[forest scaffold]

that's even worse

[terse idol]

Unless you're zealot

And you build your talents

To give you bleed

[forest scaffold]

No

[terse idol]

Not blessings

[forest scaffold]

NO

[marsh condor]

It's for Scourge.

[terse idol]

[forest scaffold]

Blazing Piety gives you 25% crit chance

most melee weapons have 5%

for a total of 30%

[clever niche]

Nah fuck books, my homies hate books

[forest scaffold]

with a weapon that gets shred, that's 50%

every other hit procs a bleed with scourge

which then becomes 80% crit chance

lacerate and flesh tearer are fucking stupid on zealot knife even without shred

[terse idol]

Me as I play a hblade with Headtaker + Rampage, with bleed talents, chastise to fish crits

[forest scaffold]

because knives have 25% native crit chance

[terse idol]

[forest scaffold]

which means with blazing piety you have 50%

and scourge gets you to 80%

[marsh condor]

The few times I tried other weapons with scourge, they rarely work.

[forest scaffold]

so you want Uncanny Strike, Precognition, or Executor

[idle carbon]

I've just rewatched the tancred bastion intro cinematic
and the friendly troopers wear agripinaa helmets with rebreathers, which is half a step from a kasrkin helmet
fatshark plz give

[clever niche]

Woe…Krak grenade be upon ye

[marsh condor]

Half of the melee weapons that I have are not suited for crit builds

[rain badger]

Man, if the hand was more like the Eminem hand, that would be perfect

[forest scaffold]

What you're outright not understanding is that blazing piety makes every single weapon on zealot have at least 30% crit chance

[marsh condor]

Only 1 CatD Claw, a bunch of HSwords with only one of them good with crits, and tactical axes

[forest scaffold]

which means every third attack is proccing a critical hit

Zealot doesn't even have to bother with "crit builds" because the Blazing Piety keystone exists

and scourge buffs that by another 30%

giving every melee weapon on zealot at least 60% critical hit chance

That's before blessings and perks.

[marsh condor]

Wait, I think we've gone off track here.

[forest scaffold]

There is no "crit build" on zealot for weapons because its already in their skill tree.

[marsh condor]

Weren't we talking about guns first?

[clever niche]

Imagine you’re deemed important by the Custodes and be protected by them in missions

[terse idol]

I thought we were talking about bleed

And that it's bad 🥹

[forest scaffold]

Well my point is that Crusher+Colomnus IAG is great on zealot

There's zero need to run knife

ever

[marsh condor]

Nah, I just said that just cuz I wanted to.

[clever niche]

Crusher is making a comeback?

[forest scaffold]

to utilize crits

[bright cliff]

scourge is the bleed stack talent right? crit building on zealot just means you take the talent that gives you cdr on crit and then the charge.

[forest scaffold]

Crusher has been amazing since patch 13

since it got reworked.

[clever niche]

I’ve been using Crucis for millennia

[bright cliff]

I love my dc4 on zealot, forcing my ult over and over into crowds gives me like ~700 crits a game

[clever niche]

https://tenor.com/view/i-would-like-to-learn-more-about-this-dr-leonard-mccoy-star-trek-the-original-series-i-want-to-know-more-about-this-gif-23503736

[old quail]

p14

[marsh condor]

Also funny how even with the other good weapons, they all just feel "off" when paired with Scourge.

[clever niche]

What changed?

[forest scaffold]

Moveset

[marsh condor]

Maybe I'm more used to the knife.

[forest scaffold]

and finesse damage

and just damage

and attack speed

literally everything got touched

[old quail]

they made the crusher's attacks deal damage

[clever niche]

Single target damage?

[forest scaffold]

and horde

[clever niche]

Bonk daemonhost kind?

[forest scaffold]

its got everything now

[old quail]

and gave it better chain timings/finesse values so that its a fast-swinging combo weapon with an emphasis on headshotting

[marsh condor]

It's basically the bonk stick.

[old quail]

it's the only finesse weapon with an uppercut attack that i havent seen ppl mald about lol

[wind echo]

a plague marine boss followed by genestealers would be pretty good imo

[forest scaffold]

the uppercut oneshots mutants

so like

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[clever niche]

You have my interest

[forest scaffold]

takes practice to get the reliable headshot, and learning the timing on the charge button beforehand

[marsh condor]

IRL Bolter

[forest scaffold]

but if you can manage those, the push attack oneshots mutants

[marsh condor]

(Veteran only)

[old quail]

the push attack should stagger a mutie on headshot

it would be funny

[forest scaffold]

things that stagger muties is kinda dumb

IMO

[untold mulch]

I think my only problem with the Crusher was the ttk against Crushers

which, fair tbh

[serene sage]

What gun is that? Looks like a Barrett M82 but bullpup

[old quail]

i don't mind it because for every time i've done it there's been some stupid bullshit

[clever niche]

Bastion stance

[old quail]

like 1 mutie behind the other

which was hilarious but also like bruh

[untold mulch]

3D printing was a mistake

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-kitty-yeet-funny-gif-21938191

[lucid hinge]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1LpsoIiaejxuJP/d1337KDUcc7a?invite=cr-MSx1ZEosMTk0NjM5OTEyLA epic plasma fail

this bug man

its killing me

Its so goofy but it get a little annoying

[serene sage]

How the Bolter should be wielded

[clever niche]

What a good day to be cadianq

[serene sage]

a shoulder mounted sniper rifle

[terse idol]

this is terrible

[crude ermine]

I think my home just got nuked after this

Fallout NV reference

[cloud leaf]

WHY is there a mongolian

[untold mulch]

Based Miracle Of Sound

All as One?

[lucid hinge]

[cloud leaf]

BRUH DO U REALLY PLAY WITH LOW VOLUME AND MUSIC BLARING WTF NOT EVEN IN GAME MUSIC

[clever niche]

Idk ask Jaghatai Khan, he is 1

[untold mulch]

THE EMPEROR GUIDES THY HAND

[serene sage]

i play this game with League of Legend music on the background

[untold mulch]

Play with PowerWolf

[crude ermine]

I play it with arknights music in the bg if I don't feel like listening to the music

Or ultrakill ost

It's a heads or tails thing

[serene sage]

what is more grim and dark than massacre a battalion worth of people while listening to catchy pop music?

the JUXTAPOSTION

[serene sage]

did that, too
it gets stale after abit

[junior needle]

[untold mulch]

Thats why you don't burn a single band

Shift around

[crude ermine]

Now I'm currently doing heads or tails as we speak

[serene sage]

bruh there's like powerwolf and sabaton for that particular genre

that's like two (2) bands

[serene sage]

but why

[crude ermine]

Can't think of which playlist

Never combined them

Too lazy

[serene sage]

play life is strange playlist

the original one

[crude ermine]

Uh alright

[untold mulch]

Hmmm

[serene sage]

life is strange playlist and darktide go together like fish and skittle but it's something, ig

[untold mulch]

I think yesterday I had for a match Green Hill Zone because I saw the zoomiest Zealot

And for the laughs I quickly put it on

[clever niche]

https://open.spotify.com/track/27krtJL99aNMCkqPdkSqii?si=nzECZ3aBRJWG3Y9uPXqdPQ

This goes well with darktide

[untold mulch]

Catholic Werewolf Priests goes so hard

[marsh condor]

Okay, now for Veterans with Autoguns.

[clever niche]

You come to the right shop

[marsh condor]

What's the most mundane set you can think of?

[clever niche]

Set?

[marsh condor]

Like, just the weapons.

[serene sage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj2HvGPv0XM

obligatory

[clever niche]

Mk3 dagger and Agripinaa IAG are my go to

[serene sage]

everytime I heard that song this video plays in my head

[marsh condor]

Mk3 dagger, as in knife?

[clever niche]

Yes

[marsh condor]

Okay

[clever niche]

That’s what dagger means

Stab stab

[marsh condor]

I know

[mortal shore]

Grab yourself an Axe or a Trench Shovel and a Columnus and you are literally PDF-Trooper #1256926211

[marsh condor]

Just want to be sure (some "daggers" are more like short swords, like the CatD Claws)

[clever niche]

Dagger for absolute mobility paired with reliable rifle

[marsh condor]

For me, somewhat similar but with Agri Headhunter.

[clever niche]

Headhunter is a bit lacking with fire rate

[marsh condor]

Aka, "M16? Really?"

[clever niche]

And maniac power is shit

[untold mulch]

Brb, feel the urge for a crusade

[marsh condor]

Not gonna lie, though

Cosmetically, I wish we get guns which become inversely bigger with more ammo.

[untold mulch]

wdym?

[clever niche]

Inversely bigger?

[serene sage]

more ammo makes it... smaller?

[clever niche]

What?

[serene sage]

do you mean proportionally?

[untold mulch]

Confusion spell

[serene sage]

[clever niche]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-you-keep-using-that-word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means-gif-9201569

[midnight totem]

Like the Columnus ags should get drum mags

[granite dove]

brain no work

[marsh condor]

The Graia Brauto, for example

(Wait- lemme check rq)

[junior needle]

The shit you see on the subreddit

[serene sage]

no but like what does inversely bigger with ammo mean

[gray belfry]

aylmao always a classic

[marsh condor]

Okay

[serene sage]

nothing to see here

[serene sage]

right?

[clever niche]

Small gun with shit ton of ammo?

[serene sage]

shredder?

[lucid hinge]

yeah I do

[midnight totem]

That's called a laspistol

[marsh condor]

You're telling me that this gun, and the Columnus Brauto by extension, can hold over 70 rounds.

[lucid hinge]

and I still kill 99% of the specials and elites lmao

[mortal shore]

All hail the tri-stack mag!

[clever niche]

Quad stacked magazine, it’s possible

[serene sage]

maybe the rounds are smol idk

[gray belfry]

'Burn the trees! Salt the earth! We tilt into Hell itself!' Reynauld my beloved

[granite dove]

the emperor works in mysterious ways

[marsh condor]

While the Agripinaa Brauto, which could've been a Heavy Stubber in all but name, only has 40+ rounds.

[serene sage]

did you see the new DLC for DD2?

[untold mulch]

Brautos needed a drum mag

[clever niche]

Same logic to how vets pull out rounds out of their ass whenever an elite is killed

[gray belfry]

cant say ive looked too much into DD2, but did hear Reynauld is back

[marsh condor]

I get the logic of "big guns, big rounds", but sometimes I want the reverse.

[granite dove]

small gun small rounds

[serene sage]

do you know what I want the most for this universe?

[granite dove]

NAH THIS IS 40K BIGGER IS BETTA

[serene sage]

the Gauss rifle from Starcraft

[marsh condor]

I want a machine gun.

[marsh condor]

Daz a nice one

[granite dove]

I want heavy stubber

and las vollys

[marsh condor]

Recon Lasgun buff when?

[serene sage]

the Guass can probably curbstomp the Boltgun

[untold mulch]

Any day now

[gray belfry]

big gun big boolet is cool and all but i want a big gun that has maaaaaaaaany boolet because i can never escape the sweet business playstyle

[marsh condor]

You heard of dakka, ya?

Big shoota but small boolets seem bad.

[granite dove]

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[marsh condor]

But really, small boolets mean moar boolets, thus more dakka

[cerulean void]

haha lasrifle go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT

[gray belfry]

its a conumdrum thats for sure. you want them to fuck off sooner so big bullet seems teh way, but accuracy through volume is always funny

[marsh condor]

I wouldn't say completely.

[serene sage]

nah that's the ballistic sound

[midnight totem]

Autoguns also use caseless ammunition somehow

[clever niche]

Smol bullet means useless against armour

[serene sage]

las goes more like pup pup pup pup

[serene sage]

it's the 41st millenium, they probably figured it out

[marsh condor]

Mostly since both have different purposes while being in the same role

[marsh condor]

True, but that's what choppa is for.

[gray belfry]

just give the veteran a flamethrower, so i can go full vietnam soldier

[marsh condor]

Smol boolets are for many...MANY bodies, no armour.

[clever niche]

NATO’s line of thought for 5,56x45mm

[midnight totem]

Yeah, which is my point. It's a tech beyond our scope. Fit more rounds in those mags

[marsh condor]

(By small, I mean normal to us)

[serene sage]

but Bolter is still 15 round/mag 😔

[clever niche]

That’s not how it works

[gray belfry]

payday 2 logic then, got it. good old 23 round garand

[granite dove]

The machine spirit allows it

[serene sage]

I mean it's funny that 41st millenium and the way human kills things is still throwing hard projectiles fast

[marsh condor]

Zealot with Moebian tactical rig.

[gray belfry]

Machine Spirit : This doesnt seem logical but its funny so fuck it we ball

[serene sage]

can't argue with physics, ig

[untold mulch]

I assume with fricking laser beams rifles, they would have them

[gray belfry]

cant argue with the classics. we still got shotguns

[untold mulch]

Is 40k, lets argue with it

[serene sage]

oh yeah we do

[untold mulch]

Lets ignore it

suplex physics

is a heretic

[serene sage]

warp magic is that

[marsh condor]

. . . . .

[gray belfry]

agri shotgun my beloved. outsniping snipers with the slug is always funny

[serene sage]

yes inquisitor, this one right here

[untold mulch]

If the Zealots could read they would be very mad if they glanced

[serene sage]

you are inplying that there are other types of shotguns

there is none

there is only slug shotty

[gray belfry]

they're too busy running ahead with the knife and getting instantly pounced

[granite dove]

well hes just in stasis

so

Melkor

[serene sage]

idk, he looks not great for a dude in statis

[granite dove]

CRUSH THIS MANS BALLS

[gray belfry]

tempted to get a kantreal going, but im a bit iffy on it

[serene sage]

girlyman looks a lot better than his daddy lol

[gray belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/judge-judy-whack-his-pee-pee-gif-14296287540723281703

[untold mulch]

Whats that about Rowboat?

[marsh condor]

At the very least, we could at least get more Weapon Cosmetics

[granite dove]

it isnt a perfect stasis

[gray belfry]

just give me a good old fashioned double barrel shotgun and ill be happy

[serene sage]

he looks mighty fine for being in statis in forever, and he has an eldar gf so who am I to argue

[clever niche]

His chair breaks down every now and then

[marsh condor]

Give me a Laslock.

[untold mulch]

I absolutely love the amount of names people use to say Roboute Guilliman

[marsh condor]

and a single-shot rifle.

[untold mulch]

It feels Wrong to call him Roboute

[untold mulch]

AS THE EMPEROR INTENDED

[marsh condor]

Robooty

[clever niche]

Rowboat Gorillaman

[untold mulch]

Emperor approves

[serene sage]

As we all know, the webway project is to connect humanity to the eldar

[marsh condor]

https://youtu.be/tcFpbAdbnnU?si=FhqDhq-lt9CKBTs9

[serene sage]

Amen

[cerulean void]

I'm thinking reload -> unyielding

maaaaybe maniacs but I tend to use my knife to twotap

[marsh condor]

Definitely not because the Emperor wants some hot xenos booty, no sir.

[untold mulch]

[serene sage]

I mean idk about you but I would

100%

[untold mulch]

Only if the Eldar stops bitching about the Elf Superiority

[clever niche]

Me whenever I hear Rannick says emperor protects

[serene sage]

that's hot

[untold mulch]

Yrliet in RT calling me a Mon-Keigh 24/7

[untold mulch]

[marsh condor]

But really though.

Imagine if we get an ability that's basically Saltzpyre's Blessed Shot

[serene sage]

What's that?

[clever niche]

It’s called plasma gun

war funding

[lucid hinge]

thats why shes the best companion

[marsh condor]

As an ability, aka EXTRA WEAPON

[lucid hinge]

except abelard and ulfar

[untold mulch]

||I was so very close to popping her head like a Watermelon||

[untold mulch]

Abelard and Pasqal are my homies

[lucid hinge]

fucking love pasqal

I love all of the companions

[serene sage]

She described a girl trying to hit on her or something

[untold mulch]

I don0't meant that moment

TRhat moment I was dying of laughter

[marsh condor]

Basically he pulls out a gun that shoots either 2 buckshot or slugs, or buck n ball, and SHREDS everything like a charged Plasma Gun.

[clever niche]

One shots chaos warrior

[serene sage]

Do you get to choose?

[clever niche]

Yes

[marsh condor]

Final talent choices

[untold mulch]

Finished the game?+

[marsh condor]

Default is the Buck n Ball

[lucid hinge]

no Im waiting for pasqals quest to unbug before I go into the point of no return

the thing didnt spawn in the system I need to go to

[untold mulch]

But you are post arc3?

[lucid hinge]

yes

[lucid hinge]

at the end of 4

[untold mulch]

[lucid hinge]

Love that shit so much

[untold mulch]

Humanity superiority

[lucid hinge]

my homies

[untold mulch]

Only companion I didn't recruit was the Drukahri

because

[marsh condor]

You either make it faster to recharge the ability (by crits), make your next shot more devastating against hordes (double buckshot), or you instantly recharge the entire thing if you headshot with it (double slugs).

[untold mulch]

lmao

[vernal zinc]

This is what we need in darktide

[untold mulch]

MF IS STYLING ON US

[lucid hinge]

we do be needing the stubber

[marsh condor]

Heavy Stubber...

[vernal zinc]

Cause sometimes you don’t have an oven in the squad

[marsh condor]

I also want Stubber (Rifle) on my Zealot.

[serene sage]

Naw, just play Ogryn

[vernal zinc]

Ogryn*

[serene sage]

[untold mulch]

Not the same

[marsh condor]

Cuz sometimes I want to bayonet charge

[vernal zinc]

And I like playing vet

Also need a cigar for the vet

[marsh condor]

Make that Stub Rifle a fucking M1 Garand with a bayonet attached by default

[untold mulch]

As a Vet main since release, I demand a dakka path for Veteran

[serene sage]

What this dude doing though

[untold mulch]

Because I got no time for headshots

[serene sage]

What kinda gun is that

[vernal zinc]

Good question

[untold mulch]

Only to pull the trigger and yell reloading

[serene bough]

its a stubber

[marsh condor]

Only Brautos and the middle talent

[untold mulch]

Brautos don't hit the spot

[marsh condor]

I know

It sad.

[vernal zinc]

A good heavy stubber

And a cigar

[untold mulch]

Brautos are the awkward middle child

[serene bough]

can never go wrong with a lasgun

[marsh condor]

But what is more important to me is that I want a Stubber with a bayonet for Zealot.

[untold mulch]

I would use the Infantry Lasguns

But the flak damage against maulers stop me

[marsh condor]

So that I can go CHAAAARGE into melee like the stabby maniac I am.

[untold mulch]

Just, too many hits

[vernal zinc]

Man if this was pre heresy we could’ve gotten solar Auxilia

[serene bough]

that can be offset with shredder frags or a good shovel

[vernal zinc]

[marsh condor]

Who wants an M1 Garand in 40k?

[serene bough]

rather have a laslock

[marsh condor]

https://youtube.com/shorts/JdWyCP_2FMk?si=gUdRtiHWh08Nbxzl

[vernal zinc]

That would be cool

[marsh condor]

Laslock is cool

But it better be good at melee too.

[vernal zinc]

Just need some heavy weaponry for the Vet man I wanna work with my ogryn to mow down enemies

[vernal zinc]

Like the recon las and autoguns are alright but I wanna feel the umph

[forest scaffold]

something akin to this

[serene bough]

honestly the only vet weapon im waiting for is the melta gun

[forest scaffold]

but its a heavy stubber

[serene bough]

well

we dont know if its going ot be a vet weapon

[vernal zinc]

Same

[serene bough]

but i really want a melta

[terse idol]

Pgun bolter

[marsh condor]

That is a Heavy Stubber.

[crude ermine]

Having to be last man with a knife zel is equivalent to being alone

[vernal zinc]

Basically an MG42 in space

[terse idol]

Melta for zealot

[crude ermine]

If not for their revolver I wouldn't have seen any contribution with that lacerate knife

[vernal zinc]

I disagree and refuse

If the zealot gets it I riot

[lucid hinge]

melta is prob gonna be for zealot ( I hope so I can have plasma vet and melta zealot) but it might a shared weapon like bolter

[marsh condor]

I may be a Zealot obsessed with bloodletting knife, but I am first and foremost an IAG Zealot.

[vernal zinc]

At least give it to the zealot and the vet

[forest scaffold]

I'm telling you

[vernal zinc]

It better be

[forest scaffold]

this is the best iteration of knife

[lucid hinge]

at least I can rest knowing scion gear is in the files

[forest scaffold]

lacerate and flesh tearer are just bad

[wet elk]

is this any good or its only worth on level 4?

[vernal zinc]

Agreed

[crude ermine]

It's still good

[forest scaffold]

its good

[marsh condor]

Already have it

[crude ermine]

Just better at lvl 4

[forest scaffold]

pc4 is just OP

[vernal zinc]

And hopefully we’ll get it and the heavy stubber

[untold mulch]

Hellgun any day now sure

[marsh condor]

I have two knives, and I prefer the one I have

[forest scaffold]

You should know by now this means absolutely nothing. Unless you mean the helmet

and even then, I don't know if that actually means a damn thing either

[lucid hinge]

fr fr

[lucid hinge]

the helmet and backpack are in the files now

[marsh condor]

https://youtu.be/C9i5SUDWls0?si=mQJqXFunspOIpXkp