veteran-class

[bitter turtle]

js when you have games like this

[forest scaffold]

but its very much never needed

[versed merlin]

if you use ranged weapons youre bad

[bitter turtle]

I'd rather have surv

[waxen abyss]

Or you just happen to get a bunch of crushers or something else it can be draining

[bitter turtle]

And not have to worry about my teammates huffing all the ammo

[waxen abyss]

or a line of gunners ig again im not a vet main but ammo can be drained in certain situations

[sharp ember]

i intend to shoot 1000 rounds out of my graia brauto every mission, i want to melt my barrel

[versed merlin]

nooooo!!! stop being bad!!!!!11

[forest scaffold]

I almost have a scoreboard for this

also, new chainsword goated

[waxen abyss]

Although on my ogryn I regularly run outta ammo because I'm shooting my gun and everything else can get fucked

[forest scaffold]

I highly suggest everyone give it a whirl

[forest scaffold]

based

[bitter turtle]

See

You wouldn't have needed to pick up

[thick rose]

you run krak and plasma?

[bitter turtle]

So much ammo if you had surv

[forest scaffold]

yes, because I rarely shoot crushers with the plasma gun

[waxen abyss]

I love holdouts if its an interesting location. SO I just let it rip

[forest scaffold]

its a waste of ammo

[waxen abyss]

on me stubba

[forest scaffold]

chuck a nade at them and delete them

[thick rose]

lmao

[forest scaffold]

move on

[bitter turtle]

Like you picked up the most on your team there lul

[forest scaffold]

you regenerate infinite grenades

[versed merlin]

you have 33 ranged elite kills, the highest in the team

[thick rose]

survive regenerates ammo from a talent too

[stuck bridge]

but you can just triple tap them and move on

[thick rose]

such a weird little complex you have going on

[forest scaffold]

Alright, look people. My point is that you don't need survivalist.

Good skill, sure.

But its absolutely not needed to succeed in matches.

[thick rose]

literally all that matters is you can play what style is fun to you

[forest scaffold]

Enjoy your crutch, but don't pretend its not a crutch.

[thick rose]

and make that possible with your choices

[stuck bridge]

yeah but the other auras do like literally nothing, so jsut take it anyway

[versed merlin]

i dont think its a crutch

[forest scaffold]

they save you points in your talent tree

[versed merlin]

the other auras are just irrelevant

[waxen abyss]

912 enemies killed

[versed merlin]

almost

[forest scaffold]

and that goes a long way.

[forest scaffold]

I have more

[versed merlin]

i cannot see how the 5% dmg is helping me any new breakpoints on the weapons i use

[waxen abyss]

Do you farm kills or what tf you do

for that many

[versed merlin]

except bolter as someone pointed to me the other day

[forest scaffold]

I kill everything

[waxen abyss]

I typically average 500-700 depending on the mission but

[forest scaffold]

[waxen abyss]

I'm using a crusher so its meant to kill and just

[forest scaffold]

My mission times have dropped to ~30 minutes

[waxen abyss]

slap everything around

[forest scaffold]

so its literally just killing everything

[bitter turtle]

Only advantage of running fire team for v7 from my testing is easier access to 10 percent melee

[forest scaffold]

just get into the thick of it

as voc voiceline says

GET STUCK IN!

[bitter turtle]

Doesn't really help much for anything else on v7 itself tho

[forest scaffold]

Always be where the enemies are

[bitter turtle]

That being said v7 is so ammo efficient that it's reasonable to go fire team just to access that 10 percent melee if it helps your swinging a lot

[serene bough]

fireteam/movespeed stinky

[stuck bridge]

Ive been hating plasma since the last patch made it not shoot half the time lol, fatshark pls

[serene bough]

love mag dumping with no consequence

[forest scaffold]

this one makes me laugh

Power Sword+Plasma Gun is the ultimate power trip

[versed merlin]

oh my highest was 1k but that was on zealot, i dont think i could ever be able to replicate such a thing on vet tho

[forest scaffold]

I hesitate to say that the game isn't hard.

[waxen abyss]

whack

[forest scaffold]

Cause I'm biased by my amount of hours and practice.

[serene bough]

its difficult enough

[waxen abyss]

I guess I just revive people too much or something

[forest scaffold]

But Power Sword+Plasma is just dumb

absolutely zero weakspots

[versed merlin]

here, this was an auric maelstrom

[waxen abyss]

Basically twice the amount of the others

wildin

[versed merlin]

combat axe

[forest scaffold]

this one made me cry but its my ogryn

so its just uh

[versed merlin]

my favorite melee weapon in this game

[forest scaffold]

average ogryn scoreboard and means literally nothing

[waxen abyss]

which combat axe? I haven't gotten one for my zealot. Probably never because I love the crusher but good info to know

[versed merlin]

rashad

[forest scaffold]

Rashad is the great one.

Antax is the good one.

[versed merlin]

[sharp ember]

10% melee damage node my beloved

[forest scaffold]

Both are super overtuned.

[versed merlin]

you just melt things with rashad

[forest scaffold]

So uh. . . take whichever one rng gives you

[versed merlin]

tho the damage to cara is pretty okay

[strange sparrow]

Teammate I have on an average day

[vernal harbor]

Fearing the day im posted on here

[river escarp]

Is this my present ?

[strange sparrow]

Just don't take damage, watch as your entire team get slaughtered because they're dumb

Dont actively jump infront to kill trapper because ogryn was blocking your shots

Don't actively do anything, just chill in the back while team just struggle

[shrewd acorn]

would the new cadia chainsword benefit more from wrath or savage sweep for cleave?

[old quail]

wrath

[spice wadi]

Wroth

[shrewd acorn]

Thank you!

[frank ledge]

psword 🤮
chaxe

great psword tho

shame mobility over finessse

[spice wadi]

See if hadron takes a shit in it

[shrewd acorn]

Speaking of chaxe, what are some good blessing for it?

[frank ledge]

on mk12 I've been going with headtaker slaughterer
you won't 1 shot crushers, but it's 1 shot to light
if you want to thrust just kills everything

[strange sparrow]

Im always into Shred and Rampage for Chain Weapon

[frank ledge]

Seen some people run it with bloodletter for boss

[strange sparrow]

oh wait ChAxe doesn't have those

Welp Headtaker and Slaughterer probably your best bet

[frank ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1043119168939102248/1188432746348040233/Spawn_vs_Chain.mp4?ex=659a813e&is=65880c3e&hm=302c82017efa260e790af33090acfcd9bb7734eefcd3cde07296b5c6d2aab72b&

[shrewd acorn]

would headtaker be the only "mandatory" blessing for chaxe? What blessing would be ass (if any)

[frank ledge]

headtaker bloodletter up there

[strange sparrow]

Very Very amazing

Serrated Blade stack 1 stack or each attack stack one stack?

[keen wolf]

Hello, veterans. Hadron gave me the good stuff. What should I do with this perk/blessing-wise?

[serene bough]

maybe carapace for maniac and PC T3 replace with PC T4 when you get it

[serene bough]

each attack applies 1 stack

[ebon cove]

Looks fine, isn't it?

[versed merlin]

no

[glass vessel]

what the best weapon for Veteran ?

[strange sparrow]

Current meta is PowerSword and PlasmaGun

[analog blaze]

Reject meta. Embrace chain weapon supremacy.

Which is also still pretty meta

[glass vessel]

Embrace chain weapon supremacy ?

[strange sparrow]

Chain weapon are also pretty meta right now if you don’t have power cycler

[keen wolf]

Thanks

[strange sparrow]

this in specific

Less demanding on blessings imo

[analog blaze]

Chainaxe also a good option.

Really, the game is pretty flexible with weapons. Most weapons have at least one model that is good enough for everything

[strange sparrow]

Almost all weapon are useable with the correct blessing

Then it just come down to how much space bar can you spam

[stuck bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/war-worldwarone-ww1-ww-i-soldier-gif-4724980

Bayonet is best melee

[patent swift]

Where's my shovel gang at

[solemn niche]

question

why are there veterans without power cycler

game has been out 2 years

thats plenty of time to find it

[languid dust]

sorry random question but what does this mean?

https://i.imgur.com/nmpKHvC.png

[viral blaze]

you assume everyone are playing this game for 2 years

[strange sparrow]

Re-equip your equipment

just click the same icon

[languid dust]

but why

ok

lemme try

[strange sparrow]

Sometime game bug out idk

[sharp ember]

you deleted a weapon that used to be saved to that loadout

just change weapons to fix it

[strange sparrow]

Didn't the game didn't provide option to sell specific weapon equipped

[languid dust]

ty

[strange sparrow]

Game kinda suck for the first 1.5 years tbh

Was waiting for it to get VT2 treatment before buying it

Only brought this game because they reworked the class system + content drop

[serene bough]

its only been out for 13 months

[versed merlin]

man

ogryns that come and stand in front of you with their shield planted covering your whole screen is annoying

but its also cute

[languid dust]

does the melee weapon for gunlugger matter too much?

or are you looking for something specific out of it

[serene bough]

Theyre trying their best

[versed merlin]

[limber egret]

Oof totally gonna be a skaven update for darktide watch

[versed merlin]

ah yes the dump stat really dumped

[limber egret]

would you say this be a good replacement plasma gun despite the blessing?

and despite the lower ammo?

[serene bough]

Depends on your next blessing

[limber egret]

oh boi

probably gonna be something bad watch

or the second perk is garbage

[serene bough]

Your current plasma charge rate is kinda trash but idk how much of a difference it makes

[limber egret]

its very small

so this is 73% charge rate

and this is 33%

its not that big of a difference really

atleast not big enough for it to cause problems

the three main things i want maxed out preferably is damage, stopping power and ammo

bruh

this hurts to look at

now im at 18 profane plasma guns

how many i bought trying to get soemthing similar to my older plasma gun

this is basically what i been trying to roll again

literally best possible plasma gun besides the thermal resistance

been i messed up and left glorhunter even tho can be nice

although the unarmoured perk dont like much

[copper shell]

Why would you take thermal resist or ammo over charge rate?

[limber egret]

im just saying that one was low on my older plasma gun

and wasnt sure if having that high was better to have

[dusty sluice]

is it flakiac for plasma or unyeilding/cara?

[sharp ember]

they all reduce hits on relevant targets, basically user preference

i would probably value flak the least though

most flak elites are already 1 shot

[dusty sluice]

so maniac + cara or smth?

[sharp ember]

yea, or unyielding if you're keen on magdumping bosses

monsters*

[idle dirge]

Thinking of using kantrael for horde clear on a melee focused build
I'd try other options first but I have 0 dockets

[dusty sluice]

also whats the dump stat for it?

[sharp ember]

charge rate and up to a certain amount, thermal resist

you can have something like 65% thermal resist and still get 8 uncharged shots or 3 charged shots

somewhere in that ballpark

[placid portal]

man agripinaa Braced Kalashnikov is fun as heck

[dusty sluice]

ok ty

[forest blaze]

Normally for plas you’ll do maniac and either flak or unarmored depending on what breakpoints you can hit.

[idle dirge]

As much as I want to do it, I may just have to abandom my goal of chainaxe melee build

[forest blaze]

Unarmored is really good if it helps you but breakpoints for unarmored gunners and shotties

[forest blaze]

Why

[idle dirge]

Too much trouble with hordes

[forest blaze]

What’s your build and what difficulty?

(I use chainaxe now in aurics and hard mode twins)

[idle dirge]

This vet's only lvl 25 so it's not quite at its full potential yet, and damnation. But regardless of build it feels like I just can't deal with hordes

[forest blaze]

Do this instead

[serene bough]

move speed

[forest blaze]

It’s pog af

And tinkerer smokes

[serene bough]

youre unhinged

someone should stop you

[forest blaze]

You need the stamina regen delay node and trenchfighter

You can roll with infiltrate but voc is far better in this context because you’ll spend most of your time in melee

I pair my chaxe with plasma

[idle dirge]

On my old vet I had tons of fun with infiltrate, though I was using the combat axe rather than chainaxe

[forest blaze]

Yah infiltrate is easily my favorite in most games. It’s often the difference between a loss and a win, which is great

VoC with chaxe however is crazy awesome and you’ll solo everything anyways

[serene bough]

i prefer infiltrate over VoC

ive been scrambling my talent tree and trying different things

currently here

[forest blaze]

This build you can do either without a problem

[idle dirge]

These dudes that I forget the name of tend to be one of my biggest problems in hordes with my current build

[teal abyss]

If he’s having trouble with Hordes recommending a Chainaxe that’s very clearly kitted for single target damage isn’t smart lmao, if anything he’ll want Slaughterer or Headtaker

[idle dirge]

Takes a lot of hits to kill them with lights but there's too many enemies around to focus them specifically

[forest blaze]

You isn’t very smart

Jk it’s a good point

[idle dirge]

Thunderous might still help, but yeah, bloodletter probably isn't necessary for me

[forest blaze]

You can go slaughterer/head taker and bloodletter

Bloodletter is core for chaxe for your revved specials against crushers, maulers, and monstrosities

[idle dirge]

It practically instas them even without bloodletter anyways :p

[halcyon jackal]

when do we get veteran lmg

[unreal drum]

Mk6ps is life.

[forest blaze]

Trench fighter and stamina regen node are going to be your game changers @idle dirge

[unreal drum]

Mk8bag is life.

Frag nades are life.

Keystones are poopoo.

[serene bough]

i wish marksmans focus was better

[idle dirge]

I might go for unarmoured damage instead of maniac damage, it already instas ragers and mutants

[serene bough]

i like the idea of landing headshots rewards you with better damage

[unreal drum]

Playing mini games within mini games for meh buffs. No thanks.

[forest blaze]

The reason I recommend maniac flak is for one hitting them on an overhead heavy rather than a special but you do you

[serene bough]

anythings more interesting than snoozefesting with plasma/psword and deleting everything

[unreal drum]

Plasma is meh.

[halcyon jackal]

then don't snoozefest with plasma/psword

[serene bough]

im not

[halcyon jackal]

use the garbage lasguns and larp as a guardsman

go down six times in a round

[white minnow]

marksman is a pretty good bonus for finesse weapons

it's simple but it is what it is

[forest blaze]

You can light rev ragers, but in AM where there’s like 10 of them, you need to be able to overhead heavy and leave

[sharp ember]

lasgun

[serene bough]

lasgun supremacy

[halcyon jackal]

lasgun supremacy

[umbral scaffold]

i am just watiting to get my new helbore skin

[old quail]

kant laspistol with it

[unreal drum]

Braces auto guns laugh at rager spam.

[old quail]

[halcyon jackal]

if the emperor intended us to use plasma he wouldn't have made the lasgun

[umbral scaffold]

i be glad to bay 2000 marks to get a unique helbore mk1 skin im dead ass serio0us

[idle dirge]

We’ll see how things go when I get this to level 30. I’ll probably revert to using combat axe or power sword anyways

[forest blaze]

Kek

[halcyon jackal]

if the emperor intended us to use plasma he wouldn't have given us the boltgun (our arms should not be able to take the strain of firing a boltgun)

[idle dirge]

Definitely been having trouble against ragers with the combat axe, their range is absurd so I can’t get the uppercut and stagger them before being hit three times

[halcyon jackal]

(that we can is a sign that the emperor is watching)

[forest blaze]

Yah. Double movespeed node and an overhead heavy on chaxe lets me one shot them and back up enough to not get hit. It’s kinda silly.

So you overhead heavy, dodge back, rev, block attack, dodge back, overhead heavy, repeat

And you can clear them out without getting hit and can even do that in the middle of a mixed horde

[idle dirge]

I’ve also been having fun with vraks mk7 on an exec build, but that also raises hordes as an issue. I could easily take the psword for that, but then I’d fall back into just using that all the time instead of shooting

[ebon cove]

This is bad, right?

[strange grove]

lul look at my damage taken/stations used, on vent purge HISTG damn

shovel does work

[forest blaze]

Knives make people play worse proportionate to the quality of the knife roll

[amber sapphire]

Fellers whats the percentage chance that the melta gun that was datamined as far back as the beta got scrapped and thats why we've not seen it yet

[serene bough]

im sure its coming eventually

lots of development plans got delayed from the shit launch

[amber sapphire]

well if i had to say next update after christmas break would prolly come with weapons

FS traditionally drops skills, fixes, content, fixes, then weapons, then fixes

and we've just been through the fixes post skills/content phase

[sly hedge]

Is this worth investing on guys?

[limber egret]

im really hoping its gonna be released soon

that or new guns like the hotshot lasgun/hellgun

i generally just want some new weapons that are not just existing weapons but different patterns

im also hoping the hotshot/hellgun since there is a scion skin being released probably tomorrow

would be a letdown if they did not

Oof i just found this in shop

[strange sparrow]

Is it me or Vet's Keystone looking redundant

There's better passive you can go for

[limber egret]

focuse fire keystone is good tho

because it applys for your enitre team

[strange sparrow]

That's more for Assasination mission right

[limber egret]

full 20% more damage(or 32% with the 8 stacks

[strange sparrow]

because I dont have much problem killing anything except Cara

[plain turret]

Would any advice friend like to suggest what blessing I should use here?
Replace No Respite for Deadly Accurate or replace Headhunter with Falter?

[serene bough]

Middle and right are worth taking, marksman focus is mediocre if not completely redundant

[hollow ibex]

all the keystones are good tbh

[terse idol]

Its fine

I mean like, imo if you don't over think marksmens focus and just play it like how you play exe stance regularly

It's a nice little damage boost

I think folks are overtaking "DONT MOVE" Too much

[dapper vessel]

Do not run anything with Falter. You dont want to stagger enemy's heads

Switch No Respite for Surgical instead and change your weak spot damage for Flak

[dapper vessel]

yes

[serene bough]

Problem is you can just get more consistent damage buffs throughout the tree

Its not bad but it's arguable whether or not it's worth the points

[terse idol]

Yeah thats fair, I think maybe it needs some more utility buut I'm still testing it out

[limber egret]

i find it not great since even just walking removes stacks

like this game is about moving and dodgeing and having to stand still or move while crouching sounds horrible

they need to remove the walking stack part and it would be more worth it

[terse idol]

Again

You retain stacks for 3 seconds if you headshot kill something

[limber egret]

yes but still

[terse idol]

If you play marksmen like you play exec stance

You'll get 10 stacks consistently and not feel the drop off

[soft solstice]

marksman focused worked better with the lawbringer t han I expected but it's still not that use friendly to use, it's probably the keystone in the game that needs the most buffs in terms of usablility

[terse idol]

I do think you need to get camouflage

But you'll never want to stand still as long as you think you do

Its a nice damage steroid, + toughness regain on weakpoint kill

[tiny summit]

They are footnotes to a tree everyone was fine with

[terse idol]

Weapon spec and focus target hard disagree

[soft solstice]

weapon specialist is really nice though it can kind of mess with how you play, and the mark keystone is just really solid

[terse idol]

I just think folks are over thinking it

[soft solstice]

attack speed and dodge distance is all I could ever want, but it makes me want to never change weapons to maintain stacks

which actually makes the special on the las pistol feel good for once, I can push bursters away without having to switch to my melee and waste my stack

[tiny summit]

It removes only 1 stack at a time. You can slide. You can headshot to move. Headshotting a poxwalker gives you 3 stacks. Camouflage can give you stacks at any time. Definitely overthinking it

[limber egret]

yeah but compared to focuse fire which is your enitre team doing 20 or 32% extra damage

[limber egret]

easier said then done

and also the buffs it adds dont even seem big enough

[soft solstice]

sliding around while crouching can work for movement and keeping stacks but it's just so awkward, you lose out on trying to keep stacks up than playing normally, even if the bonuses from marksman can be nice

[limber egret]

like i do more damage with focuse fire then marksmen from testing it

[tiny summit]

I still think those keystones are kinda just neat additions.

[tiny summit]

No. It actually is easy.

[terse idol]

Well

[limber egret]

not always going to be

and from testing it right now

my plasma gun currently fort example is doing very noticably more damage with focuse fire then marksmen

with the 8 stacks

[terse idol]

Marksmanship focus kinda synergies well with taking out multiple gunners quickly in theoory

You could meet a breakpoint with focus target if you really need to too

[tiny summit]

People don't realize you actually don't need to move at all times in a game in Darktide. If you're a vet with a lasgun, you likely are moving far more than you ever need to.

[limber egret]

focuse fire also applys for your enitre team

[sharp ember]

plasma isn't really a gun you want to use with focus

[limber egret]

why i take it over marksmen

[sharp ember]

focus wants guns with good headshot damage, like lasguns or infantry autoguns or laspistols

small wonder plasma would do better with tagging

[limber egret]

im running 30% weakspot damage and volly fire

i can melt a lot of enemies with it

plus focuse fire helps enitre team

[sly hedge]

Which blessings would you recommend on it? appreciate the help.

[dapper vessel]

well for your best blessings you want Deadly Accurate and Surgical on the mark 9 HH

but Crucian isnt too bad. But not too great either

[sly hedge]

Got falter IV after upgrading it, not sure if thats worth it

[dapper vessel]

nah you dont want Falter

like at all

[sly hedge]

Yeah i'll swap that, ty

[slender turtle]

What is absolute max a toughness curio can be?

[dapper vessel]

you are welcome

[slender turtle]

17 wasnt it?

[dapper vessel]

yes

[limber egret]

the most i seen was 17%

[slender turtle]

fug. I got a 16 here.

[limber egret]

tho you can add an extra 5% as a perk

my vet is at 206 toughness

for my plasma gun

[sharp ember]

yeah 17

[limber egret]

for example

[hollow ibex]

17 is quite rare

[tiny summit]

Don't sweat about the 1%. You'll get a 17% eventually.

[hollow ibex]

yeah just wait for it and check the shop

[slender turtle]

I know but now i been checking brunts every so often now, i forget what the max is

[strange sparrow]

I mean it's just how I perceive it that you could spend ability point somewhere else

[terse idol]

I mean, if anything its an affirmation of how strong Vets talents are

That folks can still build around not taking a keystone

But focus target and weapon spec

[limber egret]

i do like the current tree

[terse idol]

Definetly worth the points

[limber egret]

allows me to pick more important talents

[terse idol]

Marksmens focus is debatable but it can open up the lasguns more

[strange sparrow]

A lot of damage potential but I still feel without VoC, Veteran just have no game

[terse idol]

Infil and exec are both still good

[eternal sable]

merry xmas everyone :3 especially the cute femboys

[terse idol]

Infil itself has utility and toughness restoration

[strange sparrow]

Going into Auric Mael with allow you to stack 150 toughness simply because how much mutant running at you

then the moment I go EC, I just get fuck consistently

Haven't try Infil

[slender turtle]

Has a ton of potential for a melee vet. Probably one of my favorite abilities to use for vet now

[serene bough]

I think marksman focus shouldn't deplete stacks when ADS

That way you can still move and not have to think about the drop off

A

[terse idol]

Again

Don't over think losing stacks

[slender turtle]

And honestly, makes more sense to use on a veteran rather than a zealot. I wonder if the stealth for the zealot was just a cop out cause they couldn't think of anything else for the zealot

[terse idol]

You will have 10 stacks even if you shmoov around just by getting headshkt kills

[terse idol]

It has its different uses

[strange sparrow]

Zealot Stealth are marginally better because of one unique weapon type

[terse idol]

Zealot stealth is pretty spicy to one shot thongs

[tiny summit]

That 10% rending at 10+ stacks and 1% reload per stack could use some work.

[strange grove]

thammer insta boss kill?

[strange sparrow]

Yea Instant Kill Build

[tiny summit]

Like bruh there's a 10% flat rending node in the middle tree that you can still get as a MF vet

[slender turtle]

It is but that's all it seems good for. Doesn't really have a nice buff when leaving outside of toughness gain. Cause chastise does it better

[strange grove]

one shotting thongs

[terse idol]

Even if you don't run thammer, knife backstab to get stealth resets is satisfying

[strange sparrow]

I dislike Knife Player overall, It's either very very good or just very very bad

[terse idol]

I only ever ran Momentum with it, so mobility is the survivability

[strange sparrow]

No inbetween with Zealot Knife

[terse idol]

Leave stealth and you still have very long dodge distance

[slender turtle]

It is but it's so good. I don't know, I just feel some potential abilities was lost cause they didn't want to implement anything else

[strange sparrow]

Could I ask

They still use PowerLevel of your equipment to dictate your roll?

welp fuck, it doesn't look great

[terse idol]

6 second upgrade is like trying to get into Vets infil lane yeah

I'll have to play more to find my opinion on it

[terse idol]

They dont, they use your max level

[tiny summit]

Weak spot to flak and terrifying barrage to dumdum?

[bold sierra]

guys I did it

[strange sparrow]

DeathSpitter is alright right

[bold sierra]

the gun

[terse idol]

That guns pretty good

[bold sierra]

Deathspitter is BIS for most autoguns

[strange sparrow]

Yea im going for DumDum but Im not sure

[bold sierra]

Deathspitter + dumdum my beloved

[terse idol]

Dum dum, death spitter

[strange sparrow]

Welp timeto trust the internet

[strange sparrow]

I still dont roll up to 360+ for some reason at 30

Just spend 300k docket

[terse idol]

Its just rng

[tiny summit]

46٪ ammo and you're missing like slightly less than a mag. Like 40-50 bullets I believe

[terse idol]

As soon as you hit level 30, you can get the 370-380's

[strange sparrow]

Should be fine, I'm running this talent

With Survivalist

[umbral scaffold]

I prefer the auto guns than the lasguns. I don’t know if it’s just me but the lasguns feel incredibly underpowered

[strange sparrow]

Lasguns do be feeling weak except LasBorn

and the no recoil lasmachinegun

[tiny summit]

Yea you're fine. Just pointing put how the ammo stat scales. Large differential %-wise but not very substantial that breaks any gun

[strange sparrow]

But this one, I believe it's truly unsalvageble

[umbral scaffold]

So far the Vraks is the best weapon for sharpshooters well ones who don’t like the clunkiness of the Bolter and plasma gun

[tiny summit]

Lasguns lean less into the raw dps and more into the sustained fire and accuracy

[terse idol]

Low ammo on a pgun does hurt it though

Since iirc ammo pickups replenish a % of your max ammo

[strange sparrow]

pgun?

[vivid bolt]

Terrifying to dumdum, weak spot to flak ezpz

[terse idol]

You can really fuck up your ammo pick ups if you have low ammo on some guns

Revolver, plasmagun

[umbral scaffold]

Well I’m more ranged dps. I just wanna rip through enemies like paper

[tiny summit]

Plasma

[terse idol]

Anything with already low max ammo

Or errm

I dunno if revolver even has max ammo...

But pgun for sure

[vivid bolt]

It’s usable. Wrath to Rampage, Shred to Savage Sweep unless you are fishing for crits

[umbral scaffold]

Vraks im just popping heads like bubble wrap

[tiny summit]

I prefer helbore and Ia infantry right now. Columnus if I'm running shout with onslaught. Shocktrooper + survivalist let's me essentially always have ammo and I like that

A vet with helbore is basically ammo pickups for everyone else

[umbral scaffold]

I got a Columnus on standby if I’m in the mood for Dakka

Wish there was a locker to store my weapons

Just in case you want some variety

What if I’m in the mood for some boomstick action

Damn autocorrect

Abominable Intelligence indeed

https://tenor.com/view/boom-stick-army-of-darkness-bruce-campbell-gun-this-gif-17346017

Guardsman showing his shotgun to feudal worlders

Because if Evil Dead or Doom has taught me anything it’s that buckshot is a demon’s kryptonite

Also what would you consider the best shotgun

Kantrel

Lawbringer

Agripinaa

[trim hemlock]

None is truly the best, they all do different things well, and other things worse

[umbral scaffold]

Because I remember getting one that absolutely destroyed everything

[trim hemlock]

Lawbringer can provide some crowd clear/control to reach targets beyond the horde, while maintaining good sniping capabilities

Agripinaa has a sniping special shell and has the best sniping capabilities overall, but it has the lowest pellet count and generally does not handle hordes of enemies well

[umbral scaffold]

I’m more of a run and gun guy so I guess Lawbringer will suit me

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9QZWWKZ6Otg&pp=ygUTZG9vbSAzZG8gc291bmR0cmFjaw%3D%3D

[trim hemlock]

Kantrael has a lot of pellets and a lot of damage advantage over Lawbringer/Agri, but due to that it can be a bit worse at sniping things at a distance, but it’s thoroughly compensated by having a very flexible/universal special shell and burst capabilities against close targets

Overall I would say Kantrael is “the best”, but that’s a subjective take

I like the most what it does, is all

[woven garnet]

What the Veteran Top 3 weapons right now? I am loving the Bolter but I realize that Psykers are also built for taking down Elites. I'm curious what else are good options.

[trim hemlock]

That would probably be Plasma, Columnus 5 IAG and Zarona revolver, but all of these weapons are extremely overtuned and I dislike playing them

[umbral scaffold]

Vraks it slaps

It’s like a M14

[trim hemlock]

Vraks 3 HHAG is my personal favourite Vet weapon, alongside the Bolter

[umbral scaffold]

I like the semi automatic one

Lot of damage

Two shot a mauler

[woven garnet]

What is the difference between the 3 - 4, just auto to semi auto?

[trim hemlock]

3 to 4? What do you mean?

[woven garnet]

MK III to MK VII

Sorry, that maybe 5.

[trim hemlock]

Mk VII = 7

[woven garnet]

Fuck me. X.x

[trim hemlock]

Mk7 is semi auto, single shots, high damage per bullet and respectable recoil

[woven garnet]

And you favor the III to the VII?

[trim hemlock]

Mk3 is semi auto with forced burst fire, 3 rounds/burst

I like the Mk3

It’s very gentle recoil and excellent finesse damage

[woven garnet]

I'll have to get Brunt to give me a taste of both.

[median moat]

What should I be looking for in an agri revolver?

[woven garnet]

The MK3 just doesn't hit like the MK7. That M14 feel is beautiful.

[terse idol]

Cruccian roulette, Hand cannon, at least imo

Can't go wrong with hand cannon

Cruccian roulette fits the fan better to fish crits

[strange sparrow]

Look good and feel good

The only problem is just ammo

https://tenor.com/view/ups-oops-gif-25712345

[median moat]

I’m surprised that mod doesn’t track accuracy %

[strange sparrow]

There is another one that is more detailed

Im too lazy to get that one

[median moat]

Could you link it?

[strange sparrow]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/241

[median moat]

Thx

[strange sparrow]

Most people use this

[umbral scaffold]

I know right

Like a carbine from WW2 or Nam

[strange sparrow]

How well is 4% Combat Ability Regeneration stacked 3 times

[umbral scaffold]

Whenever you shoot you listen closely the gun plays Fortunate Son

[strange sparrow]

VoC 30 seconds base

and how it interact with 20% Mael Auric CD penalty

[limber egret]

hey so i got this

this good stats right?

[umbral scaffold]

Never got use to using that gun didn’t go with my play style

[grand merlin]

Does this offer still stand?

[grand merlin]

I think so.

I also think the melee on mk3 is good when you master spacing.

[umbral scaffold]

I don’t even know what my play style even is it’s like a run and gun sniper or something it makes no sense. The only thing that matters to me is killing everything before my other teammates kill it

[strange sparrow]

True Dump Stats

[grand merlin]

The other 2 are for rapid kills because of the faster fire time, at least that's the conclusion

[strange sparrow]

Look good enough to me

[terse idol]

groaners

[grand merlin]

I play similarly, except I stay close to the tankiest person and just take care of things that can become a problem

[terse idol]

no power cycler

[umbral scaffold]

I just always think if I kill more than everyone I’ll get more dockets and plasteel

[strange sparrow]

Life ain't daijoubu

[grand merlin]

That's normal.

[strange sparrow]

I just gambled 8k Plasteel into 4 sword

no Pcycler

[grand merlin]

I think anyway.

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-sad-pouting-rain-overdramatic-gif-5377165

[terse idol]

no BM

I'm sorry

[umbral scaffold]

I just full on Arnie Commando go 80s action hero. Probably cause I grew up with arena shooters where you’re a fast running death machine

[strange sparrow]

I hate Psword I hate Psword I hate Psword

[terse idol]

Just get it fron melks

[umbral scaffold]

Get axe it better

[terse idol]

No use cooking pswords

[grand merlin]

I'm at the point now when I'll only go down when my team crumbles

[terse idol]

Rng for God rashad axe ain't any easier

[weary acorn]

is it just me, or does anyone else hate seeing plasma/recon laser vets? it seems everytime I head out with them they're always shooting everything demonhosts included

[strange sparrow]

If I want to play Axe, I be playing Zealot

[terse idol]

Axe rashad is really good doe

Don't sleep on it

[umbral scaffold]

The one I have kills everything

[terse idol]

For vet

[grand merlin]

I want stats like this for my m3

[strange sparrow]

The only reason why I want to play vets to begin is to touch Psword

[grand merlin]

I find it easier to shoot than 1 and 2

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-card-shake-ii_ch2-gif-25887089

Let's see it

[strange sparrow]

Melk offer sucks, I start on November and here with me

[umbral scaffold]

I don’t really care much for my melee weapon if it kills I’m fine with it. As a Southern blooded American the only thing that matters to me is my gun

[tall torrent]

Yea

[strange sparrow]

Me on my copium, Psword without charge is still playable

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[umbral scaffold]

I’m full on redneck except minus the racism. So me like bang bangs

[limber egret]

i gotten a good col V autogun from melk

and a nice skin for it too

[umbral scaffold]

You think southern accents exist in the 41st millennium 😂

I wanted one for my Ogryn

[limber egret]

atleast for me i gotten some good weapons from melk

[umbral scaffold]

I wanted to make a hillbilly ogryn based off of Butch from GTAs Republican Space Rangers. But I made Heavy from TF2 instead

I made my Veteran Blazkowics from Wolfenstein. I know it makes more sense to make Doomguy but Doomguy would be an Astartes not a guardsman

[strange sparrow]

Dude the game just teased me like 3 times in a row

yeaaaaa fuck my plasteel

they gave me the same fakin blessing 3 times in a row

[umbral scaffold]

I’m out of plasteel because I keep upgrading my weapons

[strange sparrow]

here's your Brutal Momentum

"No PCharge thou"

[umbral scaffold]

The only thing I don’t like about the Armoury is you don’t know what rating your weapon will be. Whenever I get a Columnus it’s so low. I know they are all profane but I’d like one high enough so I can upgrade it past my current weapon or strong enough so I can use it as a backup

[strange sparrow]

My issue is mission completion weapon usually suck

[idle dirge]

No, you will spend more dockets

[terse idol]

BM is good doe

Especially on Psword

[strange grove]

Id argue that power cycler and sunder are better

[terse idol]

Putting up mah dukes, BM for headshotting Crushers will do more imo

At least

From what I've heard

[strange grove]

oh I only use my psword for trash, krak grenades go boom

[terse idol]

Yuh

[umbral scaffold]

I just want a good Columnus so I don’t have to do contracts for Melk in hopes there’s one in stock or I keep wasting my money on mystery acquisitions

[strange grove]

columnus is mid imo, agri IAG has more control at range

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah that’s my usual go to for range and crowd control

[whole solstice]

I use my plasma build explicitly to 1-tap heavy enemies

if you're running into people shooting dh randomly on high level there's something fundamentally wrong

[serene bough]

Love thunder hammer zealots that 2 tap demon hosts

[umbral scaffold]

I’ve been using auto guns more than lasguns because they look cooler and a lot of them compliment my play style

[serene bough]

Purging heretics as they should

[whole solstice]

also this must be up to preference because I love the columnus for my weakspot build, the spray pattern is weirdly similar to the ak from csgo

[umbral scaffold]

I know as a guardsman I should be using lasguns but a lot of them are underwhelming and mostly relies on rng to get a good one

[whole solstice]

I am of the opinion that lasguns all need a complete rework because they suck so bad, there's always another vet weapon that will outperform any lasgun and it's annoying

[umbral scaffold]

Exactly not fun for guardsmen rp

[terse idol]

Columnus does struggle abiiit for closer range

I mean

Long!

But the damage is one of the best

[terse idol]

I mean

Its a perfectly acceptable weapon

Recon is bad

[umbral scaffold]

I remember getting one super good Columnus and after that all my future ones were dogshit

[terse idol]

It just feels like it's over shined becuase revolver and pgun are so good

[whole solstice]

tapfire kills snipers with the weakspot build so that's all I need

[terse idol]

But it's acceptable

[strange sparrow]

No Power Cycler Gameplay

[whole solstice]

If there isn't at least one meta lasgun I'm completely dissatisfied

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-sousou-no-frieren-frieren's-funeral-frieren-at-the-funeral-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-gif-14321694336963260870

[umbral scaffold]

I wanna go for like a Marksmen/Assault Trooper build but I don’t know what tree is good for that

[terse idol]

We are on the stage of balance I feel of like

weapon is worse than the best guns in the game
garbage time

Its not a bad gunn

[terse idol]

There is

Kantrael Ia

[crude ermine]

Erhm there's a trick to do it

Beg

[strange sparrow]

I shall grind harder then

[whole solstice]

I solo-queue auric heresy and I do damnation whenever I have an organized group or need plasteel

[terse idol]

Head hunter, deadly accurate

Boom

Meta

[strange sparrow]

I mean, Auric Damnation isn't that hard thou

[whole solstice]

There needs to be weaponry that can perform to auric standards for it to be considered good in my eyes and the lasguns just don't

[terse idol]

Auric maelstrom dams do get a little wacky

[umbral scaffold]

I’m trying to go for a build that is pretty much like frontline soldier. Into the fray but able to deal with any enemy

[strange sparrow]

and Auric Maelstrom is the only thing that is probably demanding in all situation

[terse idol]

I do think we are spoiled for OP weapon
Again Kantrael with head hunter, deadly accurate will do well

[delicate estuary]

run powersword, plasma with voice of command

[terse idol]

It just... maybe requires abit more brain power than point and click adventures like pgun

[strange sparrow]

But Kantrael just feel liek a gimmick columnus

[umbral scaffold]

Plasma gun doesn’t go with my run and gun play style more of a sniper support weapon

[tall torrent]

Helbore 1
Helbore 2
Laspistol 2

[delicate estuary]

the only current "troll" guns are the recon guns

[strange sparrow]

Current my build look like this

[delicate estuary]

not sure what you mean

[whole solstice]

I've built a few kantrael lasguns on my vet and I've fiddled around with the build system, nothing really seems to work well aside from the Kantrael MKXII

and I just don't like it

[terse idol]

Also lasguns have inverse damage drop off

[strange sparrow]

Lasguns inverse damage drop off do be fuckin around

[terse idol]

Its a staple of why it's so good against gunnahs

[strange sparrow]

Anything to improve on this (Using Columnus)

[terse idol]

Where... I would go as far as to say a pgun could struggle

When there's multiple spread out gunners

[umbral scaffold]

It’s just more like a rocket launcher than a run and gun weapon. You can’t run and gun with an rpg

[tall torrent]

What weapons are you using this with

[terse idol]

Hmm?
You just left click with pgun

[whole solstice]

Lucius pattern can be good with the right build, it just isn't fun to me

[junior needle]

The helbores perform well, and infantry lasguns generally do although are more precision reliant. I think their shit damage to flak should be adjusted. Laspis also works well.

[strange sparrow]

Columnus

[terse idol]

I understand what you're going for

[delicate estuary]

then you are looking at the wrong weapons if you consider kantrael weapons run and gun

unless we talk abot MG4

[terse idol]

Because then you should go to the columnus

[delicate estuary]

^^

[terse idol]

Spray down hordes

[umbral scaffold]

I don’t use Kantrel weapons

[terse idol]

Run and gun

[delicate estuary]

or any other autogun for that matter

oh my bad

@umbral scaffold

what do you mean plasma is plenty of run and gun

[whole solstice]

you guys are completely missing my point

[delicate estuary]

some of the fastest swap speeds

[whole solstice]

I dislike lasweapons because there's always a better alternative

[terse idol]

I mean

[umbral scaffold]

I use Agripinna Mark1, Columnus, Lawbringer, and Vraks

[terse idol]

Urgh

[junior needle]

They're not top tier? Yeah I agree.

[delicate estuary]

well you said any enemy I gave you an option for any enemy

[strange sparrow]

He's not wrong in that regards...Lasweapons are in a weird spot right now except being super accurate or Lasborn dmg

[terse idol]

Again I think that logic is speaking of why there's a gun imbalance between a select few guns

[tall torrent]

Not necessarily though

[terse idol]

That's the issue vet chat faces

[whole solstice]

I am upset because stubbers are fundamentally more reliable in any given situation in the game despite lasweapons being infinitely better than stubbers in lore

[umbral scaffold]

I don’t know if they improved it but last time I used a plas it was clunky. I’ll give it another try

[strange sparrow]

and LasWeapon Gimmick don't do it's favour in these map where people just come up and fuck you up

"Inverse Damage Drop Off" more like I don't do a lot of damage most of the time

[delicate estuary]

it has infinite cleave and you can literally whip it out faster than a 9mm

[strange sparrow]

and don't get me started against Crusher with LasWeapon

[umbral scaffold]

Felt like a laser bolter back then

[terse idol]

But wait stubbers struggle range

[crude ermine]

I would say I like running the revolver but the columnus has been shining to me

[delicate estuary]

nah its better than the bolter atm

[crude ermine]

Not to say I don't prefer the revolver

[whole solstice]

They really do not

[umbral scaffold]

So I guess they fixed it in an update

[tall torrent]

I strongly recommend helbore 1 and 2 for those purposes

[terse idol]

Theyre not gonna be able to pin point a sniper in the back like a lasgun can

[whole solstice]

I kill reapers with 35 rounds from a columnus at 50+ meters on damnation dude

[delicate estuary]

and thats fine, weapons should have weaknesses as having a weapon that can deal with everything is not a good balance choice. Besides with marksman focus and a rending node you can do like 600 damage per headshot on a crusher if you really want to do it

[terse idol]

Well thats a reaper

Reapers suck

[junior needle]

Depends on the gun, rending counters ranged damage falloff so if you're taking an automatic it's really down to recoil management. The agri and graia IAG's are fairly good down range, brautos are obviously much less good.

[terse idol]

[whole solstice]

damage dropoff doesn't change based on enemy

[strange sparrow]

I don't think there's a lot of weakness overall with the meta weapon right now

[idle swallow]

luv me helbore I, luv me bayonet simple as

[strange sparrow]

Plasma/Columnus IAG/Revolver

[junior needle]

Laughs in ciag

I guess it's weakness is the recoil though

[crude ermine]

Crusher gunned down in the psykarium

41st Millenia

[strange sparrow]

Please stop talkin, that recoil is as good as saying you can't shoot

[junior needle]

Huh?

[strange sparrow]

Yea, The recoil is non-existent on Columnus

A little bit of kickback but it's not the cons tbh

[delicate estuary]

let me introduce you to exe stance

[junior needle]

It's pretty noticeable down range (without exe or other factors that reduce it). The damage is still too insane for that though.

[whole solstice]

have you tried going into your game settings and turning off screenshake entirely

[viral nacelle]

Coward move tbh

[strange sparrow]

Eh it's annoying

[whole solstice]

this comment doesn't deserve a dignified response

[idle swallow]

But you did respond tho

[viral nacelle]

Says a settings coward 😂

[umbral scaffold]

I haven’t tried the Pgun since the beta but I remember absolutely hating to the point that I never used it again. Guess it’s better now

[delicate estuary]

35 shots for an elite is quite bad

[viral nacelle]

Learn to shoot without being a cheeser tbh

[junior needle]

I feel like I turned that off but I should double check, where's it under?

[delicate estuary]

screenshake turned off since release

fuck that

[whole solstice]

"boo hoo I don't like the way someone plays the game so I'm going to call them names on discord because I'm petty and need validation"

[delicate estuary]

cant understand how people play with that on

[viral nacelle]

Ok coward 👌

[whole solstice]

sod off

[junior needle]

Is that camera sway intensity?

[delicate estuary]

ye

think so

just yeet that to 0

[whole solstice]

yeah

[slender turtle]

Screenshake on any game if it has the option [off]

[junior needle]

Already set to 0

[viral nacelle]

Easily 🤷‍♀️

[umbral scaffold]

You can shoot without having to use a cheeseburger yes. Burgers aren’t fundamental to firearms

[delicate estuary]

I can tell a bait when I see one

[crude ermine]

That and motion blur I've had off since

Especially when I used to use hammer zel

[junior needle]

Overwhelmingly so

[whole solstice]

bro is literally just here to harass people like it's a youtuber discord

[umbral scaffold]

That good huh

[viral nacelle]

I leave it on and have no issues shooting, krill issue tbh

[delicate estuary]

homie is just fishing just le thim be

who cares

[junior needle]

Original plasma gun was big shit and jank

Did damage right to your life if you vented

[umbral scaffold]

Absolutely

[whole solstice]

I already said my piece

[strange sparrow]

I think is this

[whole solstice]

yes it was indeed ass

[viral nacelle]

As bad as the people who turn off bushes in shooters because they can’t handle anything other than a flat empty plain for shooting

[junior needle]

Yeah that's been turned off for forever

[strange sparrow]

I mean it's a PvE game

You do what you like ig

It's as good as saying healthbar and dodgecounter is chEatIng gAis

[strange grove]

Versus mode coming next year.... what what!!!!!!!

[delicate estuary]

can someone chain the heretic please

[strange sparrow]

Me looking at VT2 after 1 year on it
Yeah.

[delicate estuary]

he is spewing shit again

[strange grove]

I have the dodgebar UI, and sometimes it goes negative and confuses me

like am I in dodge debt?

[strange sparrow]

Yea, just like your mortgage

[white minnow]

inefficient dodges yeah

[strange sparrow]

gonna start paying FS

[crude ermine]

Society

[strange grove]

2.5% rate, get rekt nerds

[delicate estuary]

always nice when you run out of dodges and you start sliding

not like an acgtual slide

but I mean the character moving on ice

[crude ermine]

Sometimes mine slide towards an edge

(They want to die)

[terse idol]

VT2 had like 3 years

Or 4

Since versus announced

Before we heard another word on it

[delicate estuary]

has been lost in the warp

[terse idol]

Mhmm

Gonna get a slow as hell dodge

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-university-snail-going-on-my-way-omw-gif-5461800

[delicate estuary]

actually

[terse idol]

This is you on no dodges and you keep dodging

[delicate estuary]

smudgels hitting the nail with that choice

for a gif

what cosmetics are on rotation atm

[umbral scaffold]

Volkite when. Aren’t they like microwave beam weapons

Or volkite Astartes only

[crude ermine]

Likе, commodore?

[delicate estuary]

I meant the latest ones, the ones that came in last week

[crude ermine]

Oh

The pirate stuff

[terse idol]

Yeah the rogue trader stuff is still in there

I was hoping it would rotate SOON

[crude ermine]

It'll rotate this week

[idle carbon]

in about 4 days

[delicate estuary]

any good ones

[crude ermine]

Never liked the fact they basically just slapped the boltor skin for both vet and zel

[terse idol]

Imo vet chest is good

[delicate estuary]

they shouldnt rotate out right

[terse idol]

But I don't like the pirate hat

[crude ermine]

Not until January

[delicate estuary]

ye

[crude ermine]

14th(?)

Nope it'll stay till somewhere in the 20s since it's biweekly

So between January 21-27

[delicate estuary]

thank you

[hybrid barn]

Which weapons would be a definitely avoid as veteran?

[delicate estuary]

any of the recon lasguns

[whole solstice]

fucking finally we've had the same shit in there for over a month now

[delicate estuary]

and autopistol

rest should be fine to use at any difficulty

[whole solstice]

less effort means more money!

[idle carbon]

it gets a new page every 2 weeks, the shop fully cycles every 6

[terse idol]

You could make the auto pistol work! I think...
But I think also the IAG's and braced auto guns Beat it

Recon is a no go

[whole solstice]

the only thing I've seen new in the past 3 weeks is rogue trader stuff man

[terse idol]

Yeah 1 more week

1 new page

[whole solstice]

so you're probably right but damn

[hybrid barn]

Aight so no machine gun like lasgun.

Bolt gun or plasma gun any good?

[idle carbon]

plasma yes, bolt is meh

in fact I think plasma is meta atm

[whole solstice]

It should rotate way more often, I shouldn't have to wait a tenth of a year for a full rotation of cosmetics

[delicate estuary]

plasma one of the BiS weapons fro vet atm, bolter is still super good with bodyshot breakpoints except ogryn type enemies but the draw time.

[hybrid barn]

Yeah I tried the bolt gun but the sway and the aim is a put off

[whole solstice]

boltgun just feels and plays like shit to me but that's definitely preference because I've seen people annihilate with it

[delicate estuary]

revolver/plasma/colomnus autogun are your best bets for BiS weapons atm @hybrid barn

[hybrid barn]

Agrippa mk 7 braced aswell?

[muted knot]

Agrippina Brauto is solid too

[delicate estuary]

havent used brautos much but people say they are ok. I dislike having no control over my gun accuracy

[muted knot]

But not as far above as the others

[burnt flame]

thoughts? opinions?

[muted knot]

Fucks

[hybrid barn]

I played a heresy round earlier and some dude with a MG like lasgun with burning stack I think it was melted enemies

[muted knot]

A ogryn ?

Wait

[whole solstice]

if only the burns could stack past 10

[delicate estuary]

thats a brick but thats imo

[whole solstice]

ogryn's burn stacks go to 99

[tiny summit]

Emprah take my aim

[strange sparrow]

MkIV Breakpoint for Mutants?

Is it even possible?

[muted knot]

That's a full auto mg1a lasgun

[hybrid barn]

👀 they whot?

[muted knot]

Yeah

[tiny summit]

It's why Blaze away fire is so good

[muted knot]

It's why light them up with Achlys fucks

[hybrid barn]

Yeah that one

[muted knot]

Wrong one I think

[muted knot]

It's not amazing but you get a lot of ammo with shocktrooper

[whole solstice]

real

[hybrid barn]

Any recommended build for the colomnus?

[muted knot]

Check the treads

[hybrid barn]

Aight

[whole solstice]

dumdum deathspitter and get every weakspot modifier

[muted knot]

There's a build in there called colomnus no keystone

[delicate estuary]

imo onslaught is a must have on colomnus. If yo uwant the basic bitch shit just pick VoC as for keystone I go right keystone (just the keystone itself nothing else) and then I pick both +25 toughness nodes on middle and right tree

you get to a comfy 200+ toughness

add VoC on top

and you are chilling

[hybrid barn]

Btw If I extract a blessing of a weapon, do I have that earned blessing available permanently or till I slap it on another gun?

[delicate estuary]

permanently available on all characters that have access to that weapon

[whole solstice]

no it's permanently permanent

[hybrid barn]

Every character on my account?

[whole solstice]

Are you sure

[hybrid barn]

Which have the same weapon available?

[whole solstice]

I've never been able to use the same revolver blessings for zealot and psyker

[delicate estuary]

yes all characters share blessings on same type weapons. So a psyker would have access to all bleed blessins on a knife if you unlock it on the zealot

[terse idol]

Exec stance + Focus target

Is prettyy fun on columnus doe

[strange sparrow]

No I dont think this work

I have DumDum IV on Psyker ]thou

[delicate estuary]

guys please 💀

there is a reason you get 5 chars to farm melk weeklies on and that is to have 5 melk shops to reroll

for blessings

[hybrid barn]

Ehhh how th do I navigate to the threads? I'm on discord mobile so it's now weird with the new "update"

[hybrid barn]

Damn that's pretty neat

[delicate estuary]

just go test it as well but whatever blessing you unlock on a weapon that is shared between characters on a character it will be available on the others

the weapon has to be shared remember that detail

you cant unlock blessings for eviscerators on a psyker but you can unlock blessings for knives

also same type weapons share blessings as well

all infantry autoguns share all blessings for example. If you unlock tier 4 dum dum on a colomnus it will be available on a mk1 autogun as well

just need to be of the same type

[hybrid barn]

Also I wish we could buy resources with ordo

[delicate estuary]

we all wish things but the game doesnt respect our time

thats why we keep bitching till it gets fixed

[hybrid barn]

Damn

[crude ermine]

But it'll just end up being fucked again so it creates the neverending loop

[hybrid barn]

How many times has the veteran skill tree been reworked on?

[delicate estuary]

my advice is find like 3 weapons you enjoy and some builds for them and stick with them for a while. Farm blessings via emperors gifts and the melk shop and eventually you will get to a point where you have everything you need and keep in mind T3 blessings are ok to use

[delicate estuary]

think 3 times so far

[ebon umbra]

trench fighting drill my beloved...

[hybrid barn]

I kinda get the felling that they make the veteran players suffer

[delicate estuary]

nah vet is fine after the most recent changes

[ebon umbra]

i mean it feels like everyone suffers compared to ogryn but im okay with that

godspeed bigman

[delicate estuary]

VoC is ofc busted atm

but it is what it is

[hybrid barn]

Voc?

[delicate estuary]

voice of command

[hybrid barn]

And what's bis?

[delicate estuary]

center ability

best in slot

[hybrid barn]

Ah aight

[ebon umbra]

make stealth mid tree

wait

[hybrid barn]

So I could do one for agrippa braced, columnus and the plasma gun

[delicate estuary]

just fuck around for a bit but be mindful that the plasteel grind is never ending

[hybrid barn]

Ik

[torn root]

Suffer from what?

The damage and Survivability is so brain dead on vet

[hybrid barn]

I'm feeling the pain

[delicate estuary]

yea I have no solution for that

[torn root]

Literally showed that Vet gets to delete anything witha Grey weapon lmao

[terse idol]

Vet is really goooooood

[delicate estuary]

just accept our fate and make sure to loot everything

[tiny summit]

Like plasma shout with ps6...what suffering is there? It just work

[delicate estuary]

stinky voc users

[terse idol]

I will say, early level vet is ball crushing but like it's probably one of the best classes in the game rn

Out of... 4

[tiny summit]

Exe helbore main atm

[hybrid barn]

Nah not like gameplay I meant that everytime they rework it we gotta put the points there where we had them before

[slender turtle]

Qp players really just be skipping the collecting part and keep wondering why they are always running low on materials

[delicate estuary]

I just keep them hostage in airlocks and elevators till everything is looted

[hybrid barn]

I'm one of those players who take their time and look I to every corner of the map for resources. Screw the speedsters

[slender turtle]

I learned real fast to check all the loot spots for everything so we can be quick about it

[ebon umbra]

the ogryn backshot sells this

[tiny summit]

I think people who put their UI elements in the center are psychopaths

[strange sparrow]

I don't really think Veteran's strong still

[ebon umbra]

I put my volley fire timer in the center of my screen and it is very tiny

[strange sparrow]

yes I am indeed a Psychopath

[hybrid barn]

And for heal Stims and many other useful things

[slender turtle]

[strange sparrow]

A true veteran experiences

You took Executioner's Stance, Click Ability

Suddenly Ogryn decided to stand in front of u

Oh well, Maybe next time

[hybrid barn]

What's y'all opinion of other players speedrunning?

[delicate estuary]

depends on your definition of speedrunning

[strange sparrow]

Neat, I like to just run fast and do mission fast

[idle swallow]

Loner knife zealot moment

[strange grove]

they get themselves killed, and rage quit, then a normal person joins who isn't a shithead

[hybrid barn]

Like the leeeeroy Jenkins type or the show offs

[strange sparrow]

As long they're competent, I don't really give a fuck about speedrunning

[delicate estuary]

that doesnt narrow it down at all. There is pacing and there is legit just Wing to the end without even looting

or anything else

[crude ermine]

I want their house to become explosion

[strange sparrow]

Leeroy Jenkin is just "Zealot with a knife" tbh

[torn root]

Veteran is suffering
From sucess

[strange grove]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-hell-fire-chicken-nuggets-gif-25058613

[ebon umbra]

i am a monster

[strange sparrow]

The real reason why he suffering from success

No plasteel?