veteran-class

[versed merlin]

not that there are mods like this that im aware of

[frank ether]

when fatshark doesnt like a mod they just get it taken down usually

I have yet to see them ban anyone over a mod

[ebon umbra]

cosmetic cheats and plasteel shit are prob an insta character delete

[frank ether]

maybe I'm ignorant though

I just use QoL mods and had no issues whatsoever

[bitter turtle]

I tried spidey sense for bursters

[tardy plaza]

Nah cosmetic mods are fine

[celest vine]

I wonder if they ban mods that fix bugs faster than they can

[bitter turtle]

It helps

[celest vine]

[terse shell]

at least you arent a console player

[tardy plaza]

People use mods to unlock all the cosmetics in the game files, for client side I think

[frank ether]

spideysense is the sort of thing that should have been basegame imo

[terse shell]

console players are subhuman no flame

[ebon umbra]

leave console players alone lmao

jesus

[versed merlin]

listen, they have to split their team into several departments. cash shop can never run into bugs ok

[bitter turtle]

Ya for accessibility at least

[celest vine]

Ball licker spotted

[frank ether]

like forget about bad audio ques think about people with hearing disabilities

[celest vine]

[crude ermine]

Damn

[umbral scaffold]

console players are subhuman

[frank ether]

a basic directional hit indicator is huge

[umbral scaffold]

especially if they are knife zealot

[ebon umbra]

same people who jump for joy when they can buy a console cuz their favorite console exclusive came out

[tardy plaza]

The only thing I don't like about console players is they almost never communicate in any way

[umbral scaffold]

real shit

"yo can you drop ammo pack"

[eternal venture]

sometimes they're on mic

[tardy plaza]

They can't chat, they can't or just don't voice, and they almost never ping anything

[umbral scaffold]

complete silence

[frank ether]

when they do its to tell you that you're toxic as a pc player

[celest vine]

Youre asking a warhammer fan to talk to strangers

[versed merlin]

i saw a guy playing with spidey sense and i could not understand a thing of what was happening to their screen. and im a endgame mmo player, im well used to shitty ui and loads of info in your hud

[umbral scaffold]

drops the ammo pack in the fucking elevator at the end

[crude ermine]

I communicate when I get the chance because the typing takes a while

[celest vine]

Bro thats just the hobby

[eternal venture]

this psyker just brain bursted a pox burster as it was waddling into my face

[bitter turtle]

When I tried i

[eternal venture]

when I had my guard up

[frank ether]

hang on

[bitter turtle]

I turned off everything except bursters

[eternal venture]

ready to push it

[frank ether]

does xbox not get voip?

[ebon umbra]

start off with the coherency mod

[eternal venture]

and it just cost us the game lol

[bitter turtle]

So it's easy to tell

[tardy plaza]

Shouldn't have been so in burst range

[tardy plaza]

What's this do

[crude ermine]

He had the right of way

[bitter turtle]

Busters are the biggest culprit of audio bugs anywa

[frank ether]

I guess typing on a roller would suck

[ebon umbra]

gives u an indicator when teammates leave coherency

[tardy plaza]

I think there's just a lot of people that dont have anything to voice with ono it

[umbral scaffold]

also whats the clientside cosmetic mod

[versed merlin]

true

silent burster gets me triggered

[frank ether]

bruh 2023 and ppl dont have mics

[tardy plaza]

I think it's called For The Drip but I don't have it myself, just heard about it

[crude ermine]

I just use a mini keyboard extension I slap onto the controller

[eternal venture]

It was about to blow up on the entire team, and a simple shove would have saved the game

[umbral scaffold]

ill have a look cheers

[celest vine]

Text chat breaks all the time on consome

[versed merlin]

that ones i only hear the sound when he's throwing himself at me

[crude ermine]

Helps a lot even if it's semi outdated

[eternal venture]

but nope, can't let the foot off the gas

[celest vine]

Not even funny

[midnight mortar]

The only time I've encountered a console player comunicating in any way was in Twins hardmode. They were one of three Veterans. They had Infiltrate and an MG XII. They insisted on only using the MG XII. They died within the first minute of the fight, yelled at the other Veteran asking why/how they didn't know that the shout could revive them (even though the Vet obviously didn't have the revive talent selected), and then quit all before anyone could respond.

[frank ether]

sounds handy

[crude ermine]

Really is

[frank ether]

I cant imagine typing on a controller

just misery

[celest vine]

Not even that

Chat just completely breaks

[bitter turtle]

Ya I tried it after a silent burster exploded and killed 3 of us hidden visually by crusher swarm lol

[frank ether]

does darktide support mouse/kb input for xbox yet?

[celest vine]

Cant see anything anyone is saying

[frank ether]

I'm also curious about that

[bitter turtle]

Actually tilting

[frank ether]

someone told me it doesn't last time while others told me yes it does

[umbral scaffold]

no luck

[eternal venture]

silent burster is the new silent trapper (even though silent burster was a thing before anyway)

[bitter turtle]

I really wish they didn't turn up crusher and mauler audio tbh

[versed merlin]

understandable, really

[midnight mortar]

That is what it's called. You won't find it on Nexus.

[celest vine]

Theres this controller thing you can buy

[bitter turtle]

I feel like it's why the bursters are audio bugging

[idle swallow]

Gotta break out the big guns

[umbral scaffold]

oh its not on nexus

[eternal venture]

It probably has something to do with audio channels getting filled up

[crude ermine]

Perfect for me and my 4 arms

[versed merlin]

honestly, this should be an in-game option or even a mod

[celest vine]

Plugs into the bottom

[versed merlin]

like i fucking hate mutants going RAAAAAAWRHASJEASKJDHAS all the time

[crude ermine]

That's what I use

[frank ether]

why not just allow kb/mouse support at that point lmao

[bitter turtle]

Ya

[crude ermine]

But it's french

[frank ether]

why are they being stingy about it I dont get it

[umbral scaffold]

maelstrom mutant rush

[celest vine]

Cause I get to lean back really far in my chair

[umbral scaffold]

honestly funny as fuck

[frank ether]

yea

[slender turtle]

I dont think it was intentional for how loud they are

[frank ether]

I do that too

wireless

[bitter turtle]

Mutant trains are most dangerous in terms of audio more than anything lol

[slender turtle]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[umbral scaffold]

mutants are the only thing in this game that deserve to be that loud

[bitter turtle]

Gl hearing anything else for a good 15 seconds

[celest vine]

But yeah sometimes text chat goes blank completly

[versed merlin]

that plus a pack of hounds really makes me panic although i cant see any of them in my screen yet

[umbral scaffold]

crushers and maulers need to be toned down a bit

[frank ether]

naah

[crude ermine]

That bomber is gonna enjoy those 15 seconds

[umbral scaffold]

dude fuck bombers

especially on the false info torrent mission

[versed merlin]

ITS BLASTIN TIME

[inland orchid]

HEADS DOWN!

[versed merlin]

SOMEONE CALLED FOR A BOOM?

[umbral scaffold]

he sat below us (where the first medicae is) on the maintenance staircase and just spammed bombs

[bitter turtle]

ILL FLUSH THEM OUT

[umbral scaffold]

while we dealt with maulers and ragers

[inland orchid]

Ya I’ll show u some heads down bomber

[bitter turtle]

STAND BACK

[frank ether]

raaaaah, roooah, wooooooooooh, waaaaaaaagh, rooooooooh

[slender turtle]

WE NEED OMICRON ROCKET INTERCEPTORS

[crude ermine]

Bomber mutants is basically just trapper flamer combo but with slapping

[tall torrent]

What mission is that

[umbral scaffold]

magistratum oubliette the torrent i think

[inland orchid]

The one with the massive servitor colony

[umbral scaffold]

i dont remember

[tall torrent]

Oh that yea

[eternal venture]

Vigil Station Oblivium

[umbral scaffold]

thats it

[eternal venture]

Oubliette is the assassination mission

[umbral scaffold]

right right

[versed merlin]

wow how can you guys understand which mission is which just by simple saying their names

[frank ether]

@bitter turtle here is a funny trick for you, you can add the mutie roar sound effect to the discord soundboard and troll your friends

[celest vine]

I dont

[versed merlin]

thats actually impressive given how complex the mission names are

[versed merlin]

glad im not the only one

[bitter turtle]

Now that's just evil

[umbral scaffold]

they have no right to make the mission names that long tbh

[frank ether]

I also have bomber, sniper, poxburster, hound

[versed merlin]

lmao thats genius

[inland orchid]

40k names go crazy with the need to be unnecessarily long

[umbral scaffold]

but its funny asking "yo what mission is this"

[crude ermine]

I just remember it on how whether or not I groan

[celest vine]

none of the fucking missions are distinct enough for me to assosiate the random fucking binary text to each mission

[umbral scaffold]

and reciting the entire official name

[slender turtle]

Thank goodness discord added a 'mute soundboard' option

[inland orchid]

Granted in universe it makes sense cuz of how big a god damn hive city is

[celest vine]

Except the carnival and hab dreyko

[bitter turtle]

Might as well do trapper to freak them out the most

[celest vine]

Cause those are the only two with names

[idle swallow]

I can still remember all the base game V2 missions if I see the name, I don't remember any of these ones

[umbral scaffold]

CORALLING TARGET

[bitter turtle]

EHeHeHeh GONNA GETCHA

[inland orchid]

Ya thank god we got nicknames or we’d be fucked

[frank ether]

hound scream is the best one for getting jumpscares btw

[bitter turtle]

GOT A NET JUST FOR YOU

[celest vine]

Dreyko is the only investigation so its easy

[inland orchid]

NO CAGE FOR U

[crude ermine]

ALL YOURS FELLAS

[umbral scaffold]

dreyko is a double edged sword

1. its the only investigation mission

[celest vine]

No new repair or investigations?

[umbral scaffold]

2. its the only investigation mission

[crude ermine]

Nope

[frank ether]

of all the enemies trapper is the funniest one

[crude ermine]

We got like 1 of those two

[slender turtle]

Maulers on the other hand: ARRGH LET ME THROUGH

[umbral scaffold]

its so fucking boring after like 10 tries

[frank ether]

I understand the motivation of all other enemies

but whats trapper even doing

[versed merlin]

or that sound you get when you're about to get hit by a melee attack behind you

[celest vine]

READYING CROWD CONTROL

[umbral scaffold]

what the fuck is the dog doing

[crude ermine]

I love the scab flamer because of how much he loves his job

[inland orchid]

Her best

[umbral scaffold]

he just randomly shows up, rips your arm off then fucks off

[umbral scaffold]

She wants to get up to some heresy with you buddy

[slender turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/oskar-boston-terrier-french-bulldog-frenchie-spinning-dog-gif-16075803

[crude ermine]

OOOOH ITS ABOUT TO GET HOT

[midnight mortar]

Human trafficking.

[celest vine]

WANT EM CRISPY

[versed merlin]

legit

[midnight mortar]

Heretics likely pay good money for captives.

[frank ether]

[umbral scaffold]

dude i love the scab flamer

[mortal shore]

Scab Flamer living his best life.

[inland orchid]

POV:you are about to get pounced on near a ledge

[umbral scaffold]

scab flamer is the best enemy in the game

[versed merlin]

flamers from this game looks a lot like flamers from vermintide

[umbral scaffold]

tox flamer though?

[versed merlin]

they inherited well

[umbral scaffold]

fuck right off

WANT EM CRISPY?

FIRE DEATH RENEWAL FIRE DEATH RENEWAL FIRE DEATH yea yea shut the fuck up

and eat rock

[serene bough]

do the two flamers have their own voice lines

[tardy plaza]

the scabs have more fun apparently

[umbral scaffold]

yeah

[bitter turtle]

Ya

[inland orchid]

Yep

[umbral scaffold]

tox flamers are annoying as shit

scab flamers are funny

[slender turtle]

Hotfix 1.2.21

[inland orchid]

Dreg’s all bout the nurgle lifestyle

[crude ermine]

NURGLE'S FLAME CONSUUMES yeah you know what else nurgle can consume my fucking nu-

[inland orchid]

Scab flamer’s there just to burn shit

[tardy plaza]

i do like it when she says

and i may be paraphrasing

[umbral scaffold]

scab flamer best enemy oat

[tardy plaza]

BUUUUUUUUUUURN

[frank ether]

average shredder spam enjoyer

[inland orchid]

BUUUUURRRN

[slender turtle]

Whats the pox hounds audio line?

[inland orchid]

Yea she insignifies the word very well

[serene bough]

bark

[bitter turtle]

Woof

[umbral scaffold]

rrruhghraaassgshgsgshgs

[frank ether]

also oh man I'd love incendiary grenades over smokes

[umbral scaffold]

something along those lines

[crude ermine]

RUU RAUUREHHH

[celest vine]

I just ATF them fuckin things

[umbral scaffold]

mutant_spawn.mp3

[mortal shore]

Oufth.

[serene bough]

i miss the dartkide meme channel

[umbral scaffold]

hold on let me find it

[serene bough]

why are bugs underneath my skin

[umbral scaffold]

RRRRUUUUAUAAAARRRGGHH

[crude ermine]

Maulers is my 3rd favorite for the fact they're always eager and easy to be annoyed

[inland orchid]

With great power comes great responsibilities, sadly broskis didn’t have the responsibilities part down pat

[crude ermine]

LET ME THROUGH

[inland orchid]

So we lost it

[crude ermine]

Like god damn you can wait buddy

[inland orchid]

Source? Idk I made it up

[serene bough]

itll live on in my heart

[crude ermine]

I would love the ability for them to kill their own guys like snipers if they're taking too long to move

[umbral scaffold]

"RRRGHJRG LET ME THROOOOUUGH" he says as theres 4 other maulers next to him all charging overheads

maulers are quite funny

[crude ermine]

Then there's sniper

[crude ermine]

They just go

ACK

[umbral scaffold]

i like maulers n scab flamers

[viscid vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568702405517246485/1188090968281460746/DKK_Shovel.mp4?ex=659942f0&is=6586cdf0&hm=1000039f7e706613c49900b5d8f286057757a5af8bb4fad8e4d76f452ff4d6fc&

[inland orchid]

Sniper’s quiet asses only making sound when being injured

[versed merlin]

you can actually hear sniper walking if he's close to you

[crude ermine]

The only thing I liked when using the knife was punching snipers

[umbral scaffold]

their boots have a jingle

but its very quiet

not like bomber boots

[crude ermine]

Tho their sniper sounds are very satisfying

[umbral scaffold]

bomber boots you can hear halfway across the hive

[inland orchid]

Thank you I will steal this and redistribute it with my darktide broskis

Very funny

[ionic hull]

Saveable?

[mortal shore]

Rules of nature~~.

[versed merlin]

no

[crude ermine]

It's probably where he stores those grenades

[versed merlin]

thats completely bricked

[umbral scaffold]

i mean his model is fucking

loaded

with grenades

[crude ermine]

He may have even more he can't fit

[umbral scaffold]

hoping one day fatshark allows you to oneshot bombers if you shoot his grenade bandolier

[crude ermine]

I would

[umbral scaffold]

and he just blows up

[crude ermine]

Like the warpfire throwers

[inland orchid]

U use flame damage

Easy explosion

[umbral scaffold]

flame or a well placed rifle shot

jesus imagine a bolter against that

[crude ermine]

That is going to be a mess

[inland orchid]

U hear the explosion of the shot, then the nades

Chefs kiss

[versed merlin]

bruh

[crude ermine]

1984

[bitter turtle]

Kink

Kink is ok

[umbral scaffold]

saveable

[crude ermine]

Oh god I just hard recoiled from that hiccup fuck

That hurt

[calm prairie]

Flashlight

[frozen meadow]

Hiccup

[umbral scaffold]

i think this is saveable

[mortal shore]

More like a HiccUppercut.

[frozen meadow]

Is onslaught any good on stuff like recon lasgun, sounds fun to use

[serene bough]

yeah you can use that to scratch the ogryn's back

[umbral scaffold]

1% pen and 80% shred

insane

[versed merlin]

this is the best i got

[umbral scaffold]

i hope you bought it

[umbral scaffold]

oh my fucking god

[serene bough]

now thats a heavy sword

[umbral scaffold]

how

how the fuck do you get 0% damage

[versed merlin]

aint no way dude

lmao

[crude ermine]

Jesus and I thought my bad rolls were shite

[celest vine]

Good luck

[serene bough]

i dont think i have any trash tier rolls like this

wish i did

[versed merlin]

i had a good psword the emp gifted me once

let me see if i find it

[celest vine]

Saw someone post this last week

[serene bough]

mk3 slapper shovel

[celest vine]

Thought it was funny

[versed merlin]

its also the right dump stat dumped

[crude ermine]

Couldn't even kill a Roach

[crude ermine]

Handling it like a horse on roids

[serene bough]

well said

[serene bough]

pixel recon

[viscid vessel]

They’ll never see it coming.

[versed merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-recoil-ouch-gif-10741754

[umbral scaffold]

I’d use earn blessing on that for the diet brutal momentum

[crude ermine]

But like

[celest vine]

Collectors edition sword

[crude ermine]

The funi

[celest vine]

Walmart brand sword

[serene bough]

pool noodle

[sage agate]

exactly why we need chainshovel

[tall torrent]

Harvest Infernus 4

[midnight totem]

do laspistols have an innate high crit chance? trying to decide which one

[ionic hull]

already did

[tall torrent]

Base 15%

Plus veteran’s innate 5%

It starts at 20%

[midnight totem]

nice, it feels pretty high, higher then other weapons

[tall torrent]

It’s a crit focused weapon

[midnight totem]

also, didn't know vet had an innate 5 percent

[tall torrent]

I run this with mk2 laspistol

[midnight totem]

thats not ontop of the additional +5 passive right?

[tall torrent]

If you’re talking abt the 5% crit chance node, that adds to base 5% for 10%

[midnight totem]

gotcha

you favor the mk2 over the mk10?

[tall torrent]

Not exactly, I just don’t have a good mk10 yet to form valid opinions

[umbral scaffold]

The colours are so confusing

[tall torrent]

And I have a godroll mk2 so

[umbral scaffold]

omg cute black pistol

[brisk oxide]

So does shattering impact basically do nothing on the plasma gun?

[midnight totem]

fair enough

[brisk oxide]

In testing it increases damage of my follow up shot by about 3%

[tall torrent]

Doesn’t do much? Cuz it already does very high dmg to basically every enemy

Shattering impact is brittleness

[brisk oxide]

20% brittleness sounds like a lot but it doesn’t do anything

The enemy doesn’t take any more damage with the stacks

[tall torrent]

That 20% brittleness matters a lot more for weapons like bolter

Or some of the Ogryn weapons

Or Chainaxe (thunderous is 20% brittleness as well)

[brisk oxide]

lol why is it on the plasma gun then

[tall torrent]

The better question is why do DC swords have a bunch of impact blessings nobody cares about or wants

[torn moat]

Best Blessings for Mk3 shovel? I have it with Thrust 4 already. Not sure what else to give it.

[frank ether]

no idea but you can use skullcrusher with shout I guess

[gray coral]

omg

[tall torrent]

Limbsplitter works for one tap crushers

[gray coral]

there's a contract item with power cycler 4 finally

[tall torrent]

Still just not that good

[brisk oxide]

So jealous

[frank ether]

I mean its not terrible either

[brisk oxide]

I’ve gotten power cycler 3 twice today

[frank ether]

ideally you want rampage to be in there still

I just think rampage is a little mandatory for d.claw

and then shout is spammable enough that you can get use out of skullcrusher

but I dont like the other impact blessings

[crude ermine]

Yeah

They just, exist

It's like when that one relative visits for the holidays, he just exists

Nothing more nothing less

You say hi then barely interact with him

[umbral scaffold]

"you alright pal"
"yea"

dont speak for the rest of night

[sage agate]

finally got lvl 100 on veteran

[umbral scaffold]

For not being very commonly played immortal imperium is one of the hardest tracks in the ost

[sage agate]

im happy whenever i hear it

sucks it isnt playedm ore

[terse gate]

Well I see no vet nomicon so someone just ell me what they think about these weapons

[sage agate]

probably wanna run headtaker instead of all or nothing on the tacaxe

and savage sweep for the chainsword instead of bloodletter

[umbral scaffold]

“Warhammer is le grimdark” when they find out warhammer is actually about cool dudes overcoming insurmountable odds and listening to cool music

[sage agate]

and also crit chance to either flak or maniac on chainsword

[brazen bay]

quick little survey powersword or chaxe?

[frail bolt]

i reblessed to get deadly accurate. wut should i reroll for perk?

[crude ermine]

Nuh uh

That's 1, 0 and 0

Nerd

[midnight mortar]

Power sword.

[terse gate]

The stats and perks good at least?

[sage agate]

yeah, perks are good, and i like shred on mine

stats are real good

i lost and got finesse as my dump stat 😭

[frail bolt]

do i reroll cc for maniac or flak or keep cc and reroll unyielding to maniac/flak

[sage agate]

can't decide lol

on one hand, 4% crit is pretty much nothing if you're running surgical

on the other, only unyielding enemies are (i think) plague ogryn and ogryns without armor

[tame lichen]

ive noticed the new chainsword doesnt stagger crushers

at all

[sage agate]

prolly just reroll crit chance to flak/maniac

surgical will do the heavy lifting

[umbral scaffold]

yea that really sucks i was playing with someone in LFG and a crusher oneshotted us both while we were slicing this crusher to ribbons

[frail bolt]

so keep unyielding for those pesky bosses

[sage agate]

yeah, and also sniping reapers who are shredding your team

[umbral scaffold]

chainsword should stagger everything except maybe monstrosities with its special attack

[frail bolt]

tru

tnx guys n gals :>

but which dmg... flak or maniac

xvx

[sage agate]

prolly flak for gunners, shooters, and maulers

[frail bolt]

kk :>

[umbral scaffold]

for melee maniacs already take increased melee damage so go for flak or carapace IMO

i looooove immortal imperium

also unrest in throneside

[frail bolt]

ye, flak would be best, since gunners

[umbral scaffold]

oh my bad

i thought the axe was urs i didnt scroll up far enough

[frail bolt]

lel

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/8rQt.gif

i swear im good at the game.. in practice

[strange sparrow]

Every Veteran with their potential damage

[upbeat notch]

https://streamable.com/5m0fy1

how do you kite mass ragers as vet without building a speed build, i want to theoretically do it for any build im playing but it doesnt feel possible, its not like VT2 since sprint and block take up the same resources its increasingly difficult to juggle both while also trying to dish out dmg

sucks that both sprint and dodge count dont recover when you slides so you basically have to be doing nothing to recover both resources

ive only been able to run away from them and it doesnt seem like thatd be all too helpful if i dont fight back

using any walls to block the pathing slots so they dont encircle me

but it just feels like once i drop stamina or dodge count at the wrong time im just dead

[umbral scaffold]

Sprint recovers when you slide

[upbeat notch]

nah it just pauses

[torn root]

when ever you sprint, dash or slide you reset your internal timer before you regain stamina normally

[tall torrent]

it resets the regen delay timer

[upbeat notch]

i just wish i can get some insight on this from more experienced players it feels like no one knows or its straight up impossible unless you build speed or play zealot

[tall torrent]

Which is why you want at least one of the stamina regen delay reduction nodes on vet

[torn root]

i mean why do you have to sit and block after the first slide, I never have problems getting away from ragers once you slide the 1st time

is there something im missing?

[tall torrent]

Stamina regen delay:
Veteran: 1.0s (can be 0.75s or even 0.5s depending on build)
Zealot: 0.75s
Psyker: 0.5s
Ogryn: 1.0s

[upbeat notch]

oh sorry i mean on the topic of kiting mass ragers

[tall torrent]

Oh that

[upbeat notch]

its mostly so any follow up attacks dont nick me

[tall torrent]

Veteran usually doesn’t want to “kite” ragers

[upbeat notch]

when theres that many its hard to keep track

[tall torrent]

You have grenades to bomb them

It also depends on what weapons you’re using

[torn root]

VoC XD

i usually just slide away and mow down as many possible

[tall torrent]

Power sword with sunder can stagger multiple ragers at the same time

[brazen bay]

so question do you get mats for doing the hard mode twin fight or is there really any point besided the achivement?\

[upbeat notch]

i guess thats fair im looking at this through a vermintide lens, different resources calls for different measures i guess

[tall torrent]

Veteran is very vulnerable without high toughness so you really don’t want to be putting yourself into that situation in the first place

And even if you do it’s more about killing all of them asap rather than kiting them around

[torn root]

^

[sudden leaf]

Finally got Power Cycler IV for the Power Sword

[tall torrent]

You can use block efficiency on your curios, take stamina regen and extra stamina, and just block their attacks while dodging backwards

[torn root]

that 2

i run 2 +3 stamina curios with stamina regen

[upbeat notch]

kinda beating myself up about it when doing hard mode karnak and im trying to kite like 4 ragers 5 maulers and the game just doesnt let me

felt like it was perfectly doable in vermintide but i feel so hamstrung without the same mobility options

[tall torrent]

Karnak HM doesn’t what you to kite elites, it wants you to kill loads of them as fast as possible because they’ll just keep on spawning

[torn root]

there is a kind of magnetism to attack in darktide if you dont move at the right angle

which all honesty i dislike

[brazen bay]

what is your guys perefed key for tagging when using focus target? I see some ppl using their fire button but is that a good idea? I feel like you would be using it more yes but not a lot of stacks of it seems like a drawback or am I tripping?

[torn root]

M4

[tall torrent]

I use 3 for tag

But I have weird keybinds in general

[torn root]

you can also use the interact key

its just annoying sometimes when you use the button by a door

but if you have a tumb button or m4-5 its on the mous which makes it easily accessed

[midnight mortar]

Mousewheel. M3.

Binding to M1 is cancer.

[serene sage]

I use M4 (side button) that comes with basically every mouse nowadays

like my office mouse has 3 side buttons

so yeah, the "thumb" mouse button

[pseudo grotto]

Veterans lack toughness in certain situations. Maybe it’s just me because I have that one perk where I charge in. lol. Can’t remember from the top of my head.

[patent swift]

Do i change Shattering for Stagger?

[placid portal]

V

[limber egret]

hey is the 10% range damage against elites perk any good?

[umbral scaffold]

V????

[limber egret]

or is it just too small of a damage boost?

[torn root]

yes

[umbral scaffold]

why the fuck do you tag with V

[patent swift]

mousewheel

[frank ether]

Q

[midnight totem]

I bound my tag and use key together

[strange sparrow]

I found whose the aggressive pinger in my lobby

I use MB3 (MouseWheel Click)

[idle dirge]

How's the headhunter blessing on the vraks mk7? It sounds like it'd be good but I dunno

[patent swift]

Doesnt spam ping for me

[tall torrent]

generally people prefer surgical on vraks7

Headhunter is better on vraks3

[idle dirge]

Fair enough

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/mx-mouse-logitech-logitech-mouse-spinning-spinning-wheel-gif-24743270

[slow spade]

brb dming Fatshark to rebind the default ping key to mouse1

[bitter turtle]

It's decent

[limber egret]

oh so its actually worth having?

[bitter turtle]

Speaking generally

Flak maniac better

But elite isn't a bad alternative to one

And sometimes flak elite or maniac elite can help you hit a breakpoint since some enemies will see overlap on those two conditions

So that's nice

I'd consider it good enough if you rolled it on something you were hoping for flaniac

Unless it lost you a significant breakpoint

[woven geode]

hey guys i just started using the plasma gun. im supposed to get a feat called sustained fire but i dont see it anywhere in the skill tree?

[umbral scaffold]

I think sustained fire is a blessing

[woven geode]

ah

[serene sage]

where is the uwu? should i take this seriously?

[umbral scaffold]

yea its a blessing

[slow spade]

??? its truth

[slow spade]

you want Blaze Away 3, that's the real name

[serene sage]

lynch this man

[limber egret]

i think its this blessing your looking for

[woven geode]

im trying to do the reload trick

[slow spade]

my boi you're looking at patch notes that are like 6 months old

[limber egret]

basically more damage for continous fire

[woven geode]

oh

so how does one vent heat quickly

[slow spade]

that trick doesn't work anymore

[umbral scaffold]

Hold the special action button

[slow spade]

by venting?

[woven geode]

I see, thanks for the heads up

xD

sorry i thought i could be pro MLG

[slow spade]

nothing preventing you from vent :p

[woven geode]

with the cheeky vent

ahahahah

thanks guys

[slow spade]

yeah that was back when plasma gun did hp damage

which was bullshit

[serene sage]

they should revert back to HP damage

now that plasma is OP af

[slow spade]

"why do you have 3 hp curios" "I use plasma"

[brazen bay]

Is it worth upgrading this other one and swaping to it everything but that pen is really nice but is it worth taking the pen nerf for the rest of it?

[slow spade]

I think they need to buff plasma

pls give plasma cannon

[wet anvil]

The revolver always seems like the best ranged option

[brazen bay]

crit bonus I mean

[torn root]

i saw it earlier but yeah i think on melee the two best perks are flak and maniac, then on my ranged i personally like carapace and flak

[dapper vessel]

crit bonus affects your crit chance and crit damage

depends if you think 58% is a dealbreaker for you

but your currently equipped Revolver is already in a really good spot

why do you need Unarmored on the Revolver?

[mellow sable]

Started using the the new big iron can see it's strong just can't see myself using it in missions

Braced auto gun go brrrrrr

[brazen bay]

it tops off those few unarmored enemies that can survive not crit HS other wise

[dapper vessel]

what few Unarmored enemies

[mellow sable]

Dregs for the most part

And some of the "maniacs"

[dapper vessel]

youre not

what

youre not using the Revolver to kill dreg shooters

and you're already 1 shotting Dreg Gunners and Shotgunners with or without Unarmored

[brazen bay]

trappers toxflamers and all that

[mellow sable]

Yeah

[dapper vessel]

trappers and toxflamers are Maniac

[torn root]

^

they ae only unarmored on the legs btw

are*

[mellow sable]

Eh my poor choice of wording

[dapper vessel]

I would recommend switching Unarmored for Flak or Elites instead

since the former covers already the other half of most of the armor types encountered in games. And Maniac already covers the other half

[limber egret]

is doing overcharge on plasma gun worth it?

[dapper vessel]

just spam your normal shots on Plasma to make it more ammo efficient

you dont even need to charged your shots, since even on normal shots. Plasma can already cleave high hitmass enemies

[torn root]

generally i think its better for you to cover more enemy types and not focus on the one thing you cant one shot, not gunna be a good time

[limber egret]

also so im thinking of either getting the thoughness keystone or the 8 stack one

which one would you say is more worth it?

[dapper vessel]

8 stacks

[torn root]

i use the toughness one

but its because of deadshot

[dapper vessel]

and grab redirect fire on the right

so when you kill an enemy with 8 stacks of Focus Target

[limber egret]

i only have one point

[dapper vessel]

you're getting a free 12% damage boost

[limber egret]

currentgly my build

[dapper vessel]

even then

[versed merlin]

whats the damage difference between deathspitter and fire frenzy?

[limber egret]

for this plasma gun

[dapper vessel]

8 stacks of Focus Target on an enemy gives you 37.7% extra damage to that target

you dont need the keystone modifier that gives you toughness

Out for Blood or Confirmed Kill on the top of the Vet's tree already covers that

your base toughness replenishment on kills is 5%

[limber egret]

oh well the keystone is for teammates as well

[dapper vessel]

so if you take Out for blood.You're getting 8.5% toughness back on kills

teammates have their own individual toughness replenishment nodes on their individual trees

[torn root]

well they only have 1 point left

cant really get kill confirmed

unless they already have close order

[dapper vessel]

then just grab the 8 stacks node

[limber egret]

well thing is tho

[torn root]

but the damage potential is still better unless you NEED the other for a specific reason

[limber egret]

the damage one is after a tagged enemy dies

[dapper vessel]

no

[torn root]

the stacks

the stacks are damage

lmao

[dapper vessel]

Focus Target stacks already applies damage to an already that is tagged with the Keystone

[limber egret]

it mentions it the tagged enemy dies

that it applys

[dapper vessel]

yes this one is up to 12% damage after you kill a tagged enemy

but the 8 Stacks modifier is again. What I recommend you to pick since you have 1 point left instead of 2

Which again, a 37.7% damage increase to that tagged enemy specifically

[limber egret]

oh well this is currently what im thinking

[torn root]

on kill effects dont help you kill the target you want tagge for focus

[limber egret]

for my plasma gun

[torn root]

i mean no damage bonus if its one dude you want to kill

[limber egret]

(its pretty weakspot heavy build)

[dapper vessel]

???

[torn root]

the stacks would be better

[dapper vessel]

the modifier that gives you 8 stacks only increase the stacks

its not on kill unlike the Redirect fire

[torn root]

no way....

im advocating your side...

you Could also get rid of marksman for the 2nd augment?

since its more consistent?

more base damage vs only weakspot damage?

weakspot damage and crit damage pretty much have less viability than base damage boost because its more specific and they affect damage the same way

[dapper vessel]

yea this is good

[wet anvil]

I’m gonna go play more darktide someone give me 3 reasons I should play my veteran when I log in

[limber egret]

Oh ok thanks for info

[trim steppe]

Damn, I had another one. I'm hungry for plasteel but no one else seems to be

[torn root]

610 is crazy you were playing solo?

[dapper vessel]

VoC, Weapon Specialist, Power Sword. Honourable mention: Agrip Revolver

[wet anvil]

Good reason however the zealots won me over

[dapper vessel]

Zealots my friends too

[trim steppe]

Nope full team lmao. 2 rounds ago I got a 615, same situation, team of randos

[torn root]

happens, its unfortunate but keep grinding

[torn root]

maybe fatshark will buff plasteel one day

really mad at them because diamantine is next to worthless

[trim steppe]

Sell diamantine for plasteel when fatshark

OR let us pay diamantine to unlock more weapon changes

OR literally anything haha

[torn root]

they might aswell remove diamantine at that point, why add so many extra steps to avoid getting straight to the one that matters XD

[trim steppe]

I feel like 95% of the problems in this game could be summed up with "why add so many extra steps to..."

[torn root]

called artificial longevity

[trim steppe]

Gotta get those player retention numbers up to show daddy

[torn root]

not to critique the game too harshly but there is a lack of content and to fill the void you add grind, lots of it

other games get blasted by their communities for it

biggest company being bungie

[trim steppe]

I mean Darktide does too, they were down to 1% of their players not too long ago

[torn root]

deserved but hopefully they can win people back

maybe

[trim steppe]

Indeed

[true umbra]

The twins on damnation, the knockdown ability feels very hit or miss

[torn root]

I wish i could know how fast I could kill with 2 t4 blessings!

[thick rose]

how high you want cleave targets on dclaw?

[idle dirge]

Man. I want to love the new chainaxe but I keep trying it on hordes and that isn't working

[torn root]

thought it was meant to kill specials and elites

not for hoards

[idle dirge]

I know, but I'm stubborn

And I haven't looked into what gun to use for hordes

[torn root]

when in doubt, pull the columnus Mk V out 🙂

[dapper vessel]

As high as possible. Somewhere in the 71% range

but if you have a low cleave targets stat that isnt below 51% its not gonna brick your weapon

[torn root]

i havent tried the brace auto yet but the MK V is deleting everything at base level

[dapper vessel]

since Rampage and/or Savage Sweep also increases your cleave

[torn root]

that's a grey

[tired ledge]

How i can see the numbers of damage in my game?

[torn root]

you have to mod it, manually

since vortex doesn't work with darktide

[strange sparrow]

Why no one grab Vet's Keystone btw

Trying to build a Vet right now but seem like all the build discourage people to go key

[midnight mortar]

If you're talking about the Marksman keystone on the left, it's because the benefits of it are not as good as diversifying further up the tree for more applicable talents.

[torn root]

the only one i think thats even remotley worth is focus target, and only because of all the damage nodes you can get along with it easily, without having to resort to divergent gameplay

[hallow moat]

@torn root mk 4 chainaxe is actually pretty good for hordes I have headtaker and slaughter 4 and the heavy is a wide swing clears hordes pretty good

[torn root]

might have to try that when fatshark blesses me

[jaunty glade]

Does pinging the same enemy a dozen times with Focus target add stacks faster or is the Vet just being annoying with it?

[torn root]

no

[hallow moat]

@torn root btw what’s the build on the Columbus??

[torn root]

only way to increase stacks is to get the augment

or have another veteran apply them --- technically they aren't yours but the damage does stack

[strange sparrow]

Hmm

Can I see some of the build recommendation for Columnus

I dont really want to build breakpoint LasBorn/Plasma

[flint garden]

you can only put more stacks on if you reping with more stacks than the first one

[torn root]

I dont think you need anything specific ont hat gun, I just showed what a grey one can do on Damnation

it's kinda nutty

my crafted one has carapace and flak

with sustained fire and dumdum

[strange sparrow]

is it because you got +10% rending talent also?

[torn root]

ofc

never leave home without it

the gun still does a ton of damage without it tho

[strange sparrow]

Hmm interesting

[lost epoch]

Holy moly

[midnight mortar]

The columnus' base characteristics are quite strong. It doesn't really need a specific build for breakpoints.

[strange sparrow]

Also do anyone build melee veteran?

I saw a lot of right side melee things

[torn root]

Imma find a way to get this class nerfed

again

[midnight mortar]

I'll accept the deal if you can find a way to get the recon buffed.

[lost epoch]

Wait until I can actually play again I wanna have fun on vet

The only good columnus V I have is on my psyker

[torn root]

tbh the gun just gets carried by vets talents

[flint garden]

why is zealot just worse vet

[torn root]

like have fun with the gun and build whatever lmao

[torn root]

I have a bunch of random ones im aiming for flak+carapace, with sustained fire and dumdum 4

deathspitter would go crazy too

[bright fjord]

How do you guys make the rapid revolver work? It feels so much worse than the old one with 0 penetration

Feels so weak against gunner patrols etc

[flint garden]

its only better for monstrosity damage

[frank ether]

never had to rely on pen to begin with so I don't see a problem with it

[flint garden]

when you cant kill 5 shotgunners in one shot

[rigid schooner]

for the shotguns, aside from the special shot how do they vary?
i got the one with the slug shot and i'm a bit "eh" about it
the fire and wide shot ones seem to just have more going for them

[bright fjord]

So you just ignore flamers and trappers behind hordes?

Ah im mixing up penetration and cleave

[bright fjord]

Yeah feels that way

[thick rose]

hadron... its christmas

[rigid schooner]

penetration dumped

pain

[strange sparrow]

if you could solve the amount of vets just down in my lobby

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[desert hawk]

isn't vet the most played class?

[paper brook]

Is it weird I find it goofy that Psykers say "Thankie"

[woven geode]

does thuis work for plasma gun?

[versed merlin]

no

[woven geode]

my whole life is a lie

[versed merlin]

plasma is not a lasgun

[obtuse raft]

what blessings you want on a vraks headhunter auto?

[versed merlin]

headhunter/surgical + deadly accurate

idk the difference between headhunter and surgical

but i think either works

[obtuse raft]

makes sense, ty

[midnight mortar]

Plasma isn't las. It's plasma.

[frank ether]

one rewards patience the other rewards consistent headshots

[paper brook]

Plasgun

[lyric burrow]

If youre using the mkVII, i recommend opening salvo. so long as youre ads and not spamming shots, it will always be ready to proc

[frail bolt]

all my plasteel wasted for the omnisiah to say "fuck off"

well, at least i can salvage the shred

still

ugh

[topaz lance]

thread on reddit bout how frag grenades are useless
Thanks, reading the comments killed some bothersome braincells.

[flint garden]

[rigid schooner]

reddit
killing braincells
pick two

it's a pit of cancer

[umbral scaffold]

some good advice there but consider the fact they might do nothing but play darktide

i wonder why the heavy laspistol has such low ammo capacity i feel it should match the MG4 in capacity

[rigid schooner]

it's almost as if it's intended to be a side armament

[umbral scaffold]

all the guns in darktide are classified as "secondary weapons" doesn't really explain the low ammo cap wise guy

[rigid schooner]

light, stripped down pistol

doesn't have a bajillion rounds

[flint garden]

carry less ammo means run fast

[umbral scaffold]

which would let you carry more ammo not less

[rigid schooner]

this guy gets it

[umbral scaffold]

is the laspistol competitive other than the fact you might run fast?

[rigid schooner]

infernis go brrr

[rigid schooner]

https://youtu.be/BU3eBvNv_x4

[umbral scaffold]

i have a speed zealot, saw a good laspistol in the store and picked it up but even with 74% ammo it is under 500 ammo

[sturdy swan]

Mo ammo mo problems

[gusty bison]

It performs better under pressure

[umbral scaffold]

as veteran, with a smaller ammo capacity you get less ammo per elite/specialist kill, and the laspistol being weaker would take more shots to down elites

[gusty bison]

Way better stability

The iLas has notable issues with performing in cqc and when forced to dodge

[rigid schooner]

laspistol gets finesse and crit out the ass too

[gusty bison]

Also better swap speed

And ye it has a better finesse mult and crit chance

[umbral scaffold]

compelling

[gusty bison]

The ammo on the laspistol is more than ample anyway

[umbral scaffold]

ill let the laspistol cook

[gusty bison]

Like it has too much

[umbral scaffold]

i havent really used it other than as a psyker starting out

[rigid schooner]

it's crazy on psyker who has a higher base crit chance too

but infernis is it's big damage thing, aside from dumdum

[gusty bison]

If ur running survivalist and not shooting poxwalkers the laspistol should be a 0 ammo pickup gun

[gusty bison]

Nah its big damage thing is just crits

Infernus isnt that good on it

Cos usually if ur crit headshotting, the target is already mostly dead or just dead

[umbral scaffold]

infernus is aight as a blessing if everything else is good IMO

plus fire purifies

[gusty bison]

Ghost is amazing on laspistol

[rigid schooner]

could leave the target be if it got a burn stack and low health

[gusty bison]

Cos u can combo it with deadshot + duck n dive

[gusty bison]

Faster to just tap another shot at it tbh

[drowsy kayak]

something something ammo efficency ig

[rigid schooner]

ammo ig

[drowsy kayak]

natch

[gusty bison]

I guess but its a laspistol

Ur getting 4 ammo back per kill

[umbral scaffold]

ive never used the laspistol so forgive the ignorance ill give it a shot on my vet and zealot

[drowsy kayak]

honestly reassuringly is underrated tbh

[umbral scaffold]

my zealot especially built for speed so the laspistol should compliment that

my vet however is a slow mofo

[rigid schooner]

i think psyker is still the one to really use pistol well.

[gusty bison]

Its a shame laspistol doesnt have dead accurate

Vet works well with Laspis as well

U go deadshot and reciprocity

And u have like

[umbral scaffold]

it must be the non service-related joint issues

[gusty bison]

60+% crit rate?

Not to mention u have precision strikes and exhil on vet

[drowsy kayak]

original flavor kinda worked for me with a hybrid vet build with onslaught to build rending stacks but also. a bit of a pain to go all the way to the other tree just for shocktrooper

[gusty bison]

U get deadshot and precision strikes thou.

Both of which are amazing for Laspis

[drowsy kayak]

even then it was a bitch to find a decent one with an 80 damage roll so that it could one tap the fodder maul guys

cast gun is very funny tho

[topaz lance]

laspistol is the only las weapon I like

[umbral scaffold]

it is very spammy like the MGIV which i definitely appreciate

it is the 41st millenium equivalent of magdumping someone with a glock

[rugged portal]

It's crazy how the Lasguns feel so much worse after the Vet talent changes.

[gusty bison]

Eh?

The iLas?

Nah they always have had issues

The thing is the game and director got changed up in a way that exposes those issues more

Its why the Infantry Lasguns are meh now, you cant get away with a gun that struggles under melee pressure as much

It still hits the same breakpoints it always has, and it still has the same stability.

But now theres just way more elite pressure and u actually cant face tank ragers with Confirmed Kill + Unwavering anymore

The helbores on the other hand are ridonculously strong atm

[rugged portal]

That makes sense. I just remember having at least enough ability and raw dmg to make it work before but lasguns just feel awkward and underpowered now.

[tall torrent]

Helbore lasguns and heavy laspistols are pretty incredible rn

[gusty bison]

The damage hasnt changed

[tall torrent]

I think infantry lasguns need cleave buff tbh

[gusty bison]

Its just enemy pressure has gone up and you no longer have unwavering

Basically the iLas itself has not changed at all with regards to how many shots it needs to kill enemies (except maulers)

[wet moon]

is this saveable

[gusty bison]

Dont think it would help

I think they either need better stability, or that reverse falloff thingie changed up

[tall torrent]

Prob reverse falloff changed

Or at least alleviated to maintain breakpoints better at close range

[gusty bison]

Ye

[tall torrent]

Helbore’s suboptimal close range dmg is mitigated by its bayonet

And doesn’t mess breakpoints as much

[gusty bison]

Helbore actually doesnt have reverse falloff

Except vs maniac

And maniac it 1 taps trappers anyway and 1 stabs muties

[tall torrent]

Yea that’s why I specify suboptimal close range dmg

[gusty bison]

Ah ye fair

[tall torrent]

It just has <100% dmg at close range

Goes back up to 100% at like 15m or smth?

[gusty bison]

Helbore?

[tall torrent]

Yea

[gusty bison]

Its 100% at point blank vs maniac

Up to 180% at 30m

[tall torrent]

Oh ok

[gusty bison]

Its still oodles of damage

[woven geode]

anyone else using plasma gun have the gun sounds not play on all shots sometimes>?

[gusty bison]

Yea known bug

[strange sparrow]

What does this mean?

When can we even use range weapon alternate fire

[gusty bison]

When ur ADSing

[strange sparrow]

Oh

[tall torrent]

ADS or brace weapon

[gusty bison]

Plasma as a note cannot use deadshot

Its the only gun that cannot

[tall torrent]

Stamina drains over time & with every shot, but crit chance is improved and the weapon doesn’t sway as much (as long as there’s still stamina)

[strange sparrow]

So If I have columnus, Im gonna suffer

[gusty bison]

Unless u have 16 stamina

Deadshot columnus is a build

[drowsy kayak]

just take it with the mark target keystone and you'll be fine. ish

[wet moon]

columnus infantry with deadshot is actually rlly funny

[drowsy kayak]

plus the col IAG has a decent hipfire anyway

[tall torrent]

I don’t think it can 1 stab mutants anymore cuz limbsplitter got patched

[gusty bison]

Duck n dive, deadshot, weapon spec, lets goooo

[gusty bison]

Ha. Hahaha. Hahahahahaha

U need a headshot

[tall torrent]

Yea I am testing rn

[gusty bison]

Iirc mine does

[tall torrent]

It’s like 3k dmg

[gusty bison]

Do u have precision strikes?

[tall torrent]

Yes

[drowsy kayak]

funny big number go brt

[gusty bison]

Hum

I need to check how mine gets to 4k

[tall torrent]

10% melee
Precision strikes

5 stack tag

3036

[strange sparrow]

Im already suffering from the low survivability of Veteran

[gusty bison]

Vet doesnt have low survivability

[strange sparrow]

I can't stand the fact that Deadshot gonna drain all my stamina

[gusty bison]

It isnt psyker

U just need to take the toughness regen nodes

[wet moon]

stamina curios baybee

[strange sparrow]

Psyker regen toughness just by taking 2 passive

[gusty bison]

... vet has like

[tall torrent]

Even with 5% melee + desperado it’s still not 1 hit headshot

[gusty bison]

5 different ways to regen toughness u can all stack

[gusty bison]

Hum.

I might be thinking of crit

[strange sparrow]

But most of it require you to pull out range weapon and kill them isnt it

[wet moon]

stripped down + duck and dive = funny stamina regen

[gusty bison]

Florp

[gusty bison]

No?

[tall torrent]

Crit can yea

But without crit u can’t

[gusty bison]

Confirmed kill.

Out for blood.

Weapon specialist.

Target Down.

[tall torrent]

And I wouldn’t count on bayonet crits personally

[gusty bison]

All those dont need a ranged weapon

[tall torrent]

No not rly

[gusty bison]

Only exhiliarating needs a ranged gun

[tall torrent]

Half the time confirmed kill is enough

The other half you have VoC

Or infiltrate

[gusty bison]

Oh yea also VoC

The big one

[strange sparrow]

Yea Im running VoC, and still suffering from toughness regen

[gusty bison]

Vet has one of the best tou regens in the game

Second to ogryn

Better than zealot easily

(Zealot relies on DR)

The main thing about vet tou regen is you cannot be passive with it

[tall torrent]

You have to be actively killing stuff asap for vet to not be at toughness deficit

[gusty bison]

If ur hiding in a corner with ur block out and just praying for a miracle u aint getting shit

Be aggressive

The more aggressive u play vet, the more toughness u get

[strange sparrow]

Because it mostly rely on killing special and elites?

[tall torrent]

If you’re really struggling with toughness regen
Take both confirmed kill and out for blood

[gusty bison]

It relies on being active in general

Not all his tou regen relies on elite/spec kills

[tall torrent]

If that still doesn’t cover toughness regen you gotta evaluate your gameplay and see what really went wrong

[marsh condor]

Taking A Breath seems like the only passive Toughness Regen (that isn't part of a Keystone)

[gusty bison]

Take a breathe is ass for tou regen. Its better as a radar

[strange sparrow]

Taking a breath won't cut it

[gusty bison]

Vet atm heavily punishes passive rearguard play

[marsh condor]

I know.

[tall torrent]

Vet toughness regen is not limited to elite/specialist kills
It generally wants you to kill everything u can see asap

[strange sparrow]

Im suffering from just getting rush by trash since I don't have Power Cycler PS atm

[gusty bison]

Shovel

Devil claw

[marsh condor]

Even a knife.

[strange sparrow]

Im using devil claw

[tall torrent]

You don’t need power cycler power sword to be good at melee

[gusty bison]

Devil claw shreds hordes

[marsh condor]

Antaxe with Bromentum.

[strange sparrow]

No blessings thou cuz leveling up

[marsh condor]

Oh

[gusty bison]

Like vet atm has some of the best trash clear melee in the game

[marsh condor]

Okay, so shovel and devil claw.

[tall torrent]

Ok then uh

Chainsword is not bad for levelling up

[gusty bison]

Its really a case of you just need to get used to the melee flow of things

Ye

[marsh condor]

Specifically the first Chainsword you get.

The second (and new) one seems meh in comparison for crowd clear.

[gusty bison]

Focus on improving your melee fundamentals

In that case

[tall torrent]

Veteran is also the only normal sized class to be able to get 2 actually useful melee weapons at the same time

[gusty bison]

[strange sparrow]

I don't think there's much issue with the melee fundamentals, just all these weapons just aren't that great with no blessings

[gusty bison]

Devil claw is fine

[strange sparrow]

then again im playing Damnation as level 20

[gusty bison]

Shovel is more than fine

[umbral scaffold]

what do I put on this as the second modification

[tall torrent]

Flak -> maniac/carapace

[gusty bison]

Ok this probably is the problem

[tall torrent]

Slaughterer is workable

[gusty bison]

If ur fundamentals arent top tier, lvl 20 classes generally dont leave much room for error on damnation

Cos u are missing 10 talent pts

Vet moreso than psyker cos vet wants to play more aggressively than psyker

[umbral scaffold]

ok thanks

[tall torrent]

Btw @gusty bison what’s “damage vs resistant”

[jade notch]

That's apparently a bug, and it's supposed to be "Damage vs Unyielding" IIRC?

[tall torrent]

Just checked, it doesn’t apply though?

[gusty bison]

Resistant is an armour type in the code iirc

[tall torrent]

Shot at reaper, didn’t have any dmg difference

[gusty bison]

It corresponds to something

[jade notch]

Fatshark pls

[gusty bison]

Try dreg rager?

[tall torrent]

Well helbore has maniac modifier increase over range

[gusty bison]

Ye try from the same spot i guess?

[tall torrent]

On top of the resistant dmg modifier increase over range

[gusty bison]

Hum im not sure then.

That feels like unyielding

Oh

Oh

[gusty bison]

I know what ur talking about.

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/helbore-damage-unusual-post-patch-16/88640

I think it might be a psykanium bug but i dunno if it also happens in the wild

Performance in the wild feels like I do way more damage vs maniacs than in psyk

But that could be because of comp edge and tag

[shadow aurora]

How does headhunter work with opening salvo?

Is it the first bullet or the entire burst

[gusty bison]

Opening salvo is first bullet

[unreal bone]

I ain't been on in like a week

did they release any new outfits this week?

For the week before christmas?

I assume not.