veteran-class

[haughty pond]

for big EMPEROR

[slim rivet]

The Manperor of Mankind

[haughty pond]

(I'm the Emperor of Mankind)

[zealous wyvern]

then WHY

is it small e

and not capital E

you heretic

and now i am executing you for the highest heresy

scum

i cannot do that

so i will be content with having told you your name is wrong

[haughty pond]

https://tenor.com/view/exterminatus-heresy-press-button-gif-14019318

[idle carbon]

all hail the man emperor of mankind

[zealous wyvern]

hail

we fight and die for Him

[haughty pond]

yes

[zealous wyvern]

ok thats it i am getting out of bed

[haughty pond]

fight and die for me

[zealous wyvern]

i want to kill

[haughty pond]

against karnak twins

[zealous wyvern]

especially this traitor here

[slim rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/tts-sad-sob-lament-uncontrollable-gif-19007906

[abstract moth]

What's going on

[haughty pond]

nah I'm the Emperor

on my golden shitter rn

[zealous wyvern]

next Krieg cosmetic leaked

[haughty pond]

sister of battle class when?

[abstract moth]

I want sister of healing which I definitely forgot their chapter name

[sharp ember]

sister hospitallers? slightly-less-militant sisters

[abstract moth]

Yes

[sharp ember]

who ALSO get power armor despite being medics

damn ecclesiarchy funding

[haughty pond]

healer class?

would be nice

[sharp ember]

oh i was wrong guys

they just get carapace suits, not proper power armor

carapace is still really good though

[zealous wyvern]

sister too strong, genderlock lame, also redundant with zealot for the most part
not likely

(and yes i know ogryn is locked)

[abstract moth]

I mean regardless not being their military focus all the chapters of the non battle sisters are still bad ass and trained in combat even if their focus is not fighting

[timid trellis]

where techprist class

[zealous wyvern]

it will come

not priest though

it will be some sort of techy

[abstract moth]

Yes it would be my main 3d class kek

[zealous wyvern]

but not a member of the admech

[sharp ember]

skitarii grunt or tech-acolyte is our best bet

[zealous wyvern]

too strong and nonsensical in the reject thing

[haughty pond]

no

give me sister

[zealous wyvern]

yes

no

i hope not

i dislike genderlocks

[timid trellis]

i wanna serve the omnissiah

[sharp ember]

i don't wanna be too picky about power-levels considering we have ogryns

[zealous wyvern]

and as i said they are redundant

[midnight mortar]

Engineseers or lexmechanics have been proposed.

[zealous wyvern]

theyre dumb and unique

[midnight mortar]

I'm not sure how realistic it is to expect them though.

[zealous wyvern]

sister just is better vet/zealot in one

would be absolutely stupid

i doubt it

most they will do is a cosmetic for zealot

that looks sistery

[haughty pond]

fair enough

[zealous wyvern]

for men too so it cannot be literally the sisters i believe

although i heard the knight armour is male only in lore

so maybe they dont care

[haughty pond]

but not for the price of rouge trader cosmetics

[zealous wyvern]

i am glad they did not genderlock that

female zealots deserve a good plate

i hate genderlock

[haughty pond]

skins more expensive than rougetrader game ffs

[zealous wyvern]

REEEEE

[abstract moth]

I want healer class, I don't mind if it is an ogryn dressed in nurse suit and healing abilities and weapons, ill main that

[slim rivet]

Skiitari

[zealous wyvern]

ogryns are a bit of an exception because they are basically their own thing and not just a male human

[frank ether]

same, same

[zealous wyvern]

so i dont really care

like

it still kind of sucks i guess

but

[frank ether]

I was playing PoE recently

and was reminded that its 2023 and this fkin game has

[zealous wyvern]

ogryns are their own bodytype to a degree where i think gender is irrelevant

[frank ether]

gender locked classes

[zealous wyvern]

yikes

i did not know that

never touching it

[frank ether]

Its a good game but really bizarre decision there

[zealous wyvern]

i am usually stuck playing females in games with genderlock because they give them the pretty things and i am a flamboyant artsy guy

but i wanna play men

[frank ether]

I just started treating my character like a husk and focused on having fun with it

[zealous wyvern]

good way to do it

[timid trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek-rizz-rizz-gif-11157824601050747846

[zealous wyvern]

smart rp

[frank ether]

thats what I've been doing with a lot of games anyways

in this shitty live service era

[zealous wyvern]

i just dont like games telling me that i cant be fancy

because i am a male

i hate it

[frank ether]

I like games where you get looks by playing the game

[zealous wyvern]

"oh you wanna be a fast shadow in the dark killing people with daggers?"

WELL

[frank ether]

I like penance armor in this game for example

[zealous wyvern]

"enjoy having tight latex and boobs"

[frank ether]

because I know I played the game to get it

so it has meaning to me

beyond swiping my credit card

[zealous wyvern]

yeah its great to earn things

good old days

although i will not regret buying the krieg set at any point

its the only game where i get to play as one

i just focus on not giving them too much money outside of that

only playing krieg really does help me not spend money on this game

[abstract moth]

I mean what about people who want to play as female ogryns

[zealous wyvern]

or id be buying left and right

[frank ether]

well

[zealous wyvern]

i said that already

it sucks too

[frank ether]

fatshark already has our money

we bought the game remember?

[zealous wyvern]

but i think its less relevant because of ogryns nature

because like

i mean you know

[timid trellis]

i wanna see the latex booty

[zealous wyvern]

ogryns are kinda so monstrous

gender lock hits different

[abstract moth]

Is genderlocked so not cool

[timid trellis]

BIG OGRYN LATEX BOOTY !

[frank ether]

yea it is what it is

[timid trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-cat-meme-face-cat-shocked-orange-cat-what-da-hell-gif-15285770798606642445

[zealous wyvern]

i mean sure you can have your thing

i want mine

we both happy

i want my badass rogue man

you want your sexy latex woman

all i want is for both of us to be happy

its simple. stop locking genders

[timid trellis]

no no no. BIG LATEX OGRYN BOOTY !

[zealous wyvern]

unless in very specific things ofc

[abstract moth]

I'd like a female voice version of the brawler and having both male and female in the team would be hilarious

[zealous wyvern]

probably would be hilarious

bonuspoints if they make them so hard to tell apart that the other chars sometimes arent sure

[abstract moth]

I mean to me honestly having a brawler in the team always lightens up the mood

[zealous wyvern]

new class

[frank ether]

horse heresy

[zealous wyvern]

lmao

[abstract moth]

What's that

[zealous wyvern]

a mutant that found a kriegsman uniform
a lance

[sharp ember]

i wish we could give enemies the BOOT like dark messiah

[frank ether]

did anyone here play fear?

that game had some cool melee combat

for being a shooter and all

[zealous wyvern]

i love how close this is to the ogryn skin we got

hold on a minute

NO

WHAT

my emoji is an ogryn fanart?!

i knew the helmet was nonsense and the mask is different too so it was ofc fanart

but its an abhuman?

i need to find a new emoji i am devestated

[nimble kayak]

Sup vets. Debating on going Veteran cause I need a ranged class to spice stuff up and Psyker seems too frail. We'll see.

lol

[zealous wyvern]

not saying he is not a good lad

but im a vet player

[abstract moth]

But to be honest sister of battle really are zealots in way of thinking I mean so aside making it a sub class like for VT2 I don't really see the reality of that happening, inquisition can require whatever it wants tho so idk, heck we don't even know if we'll ever get a new class and new personalities

[frank ether]

vet is also rather frail unless you go voice of command

comparing gunpsyker to deadshot veteran they have roughly similar survivability

[zealous wyvern]

vet is great

play it

become one of billions

[frank ether]

well if you go voc that elevates it a lot though

[zealous wyvern]

now

[frank ether]

or infiltrate

[zealous wyvern]

here is your corpse starch and guide book

[abstract moth]

I mean tbh krieg masks are way more cooler that the ones we have but it is what it is

[zealous wyvern]

yes

well

the mk3a is very cool imo

it just looks a little out of place with the bad uniform and our vet status

it looks like

idk

a lieutenant

or something

funny how so many military ranks are weird in english

colonel, lieutenant, seargant

seargant is fairly ok

they are all french. i wonder why everyone uses the french terms for it in english

germany uses its own

although leutnant is a thing

[abstract moth]

I mean they're not bad I bought the all thing for everyone aside zlot but then you see the real deal and heck why didn't they make the masks like that but whatever I guess

[zealous wyvern]

i dislike the default mask

quite a bit

because it completely misses the point of the krieg masks sad

its like making a samurai and giving him a chinese helmet

ok wash off the rot, then get back out there on a mission, then get back on baldurs gate while drinking amasec

[abstract moth]

I like both, that and the other one with filter but is nothing compared to the real to me

[zealous wyvern]

good weekend so far

[zealous wyvern]

i will say it looks good itself. i just really am sad by how much it misses the real thing

[abstract moth]

Yes

[zealous wyvern]

it looks like a white british-esque mask and misses its filtering lmao

how far off could you get

its actually ironic now that i think about it

the only british part of krieg masks IS THE HOSE
and yet they did not put that part in but made the rest british

like

objective failed

[abstract moth]

I mean I'm sure form the get go they didn't want to make it identical

[zealous wyvern]

why though

they do with steellegion

i find that strange

tbf it does have different marks and all but why make it a unique version that goes against all other models

the only reason i can think of is sadly to sell the extra helmet for more money

:(

[abstract moth]

They wanted to make their own version that is similar and the artist went no chalanche with it

[pliant rain]

what are the best perks for zarona Revolver?

carapace or flak?

[timid trellis]

[midnight mortar]

I'd assume carapace at least to engage crushers with.

But I don't use revolvers.

[placid portal]

You can still 2 tap crushers with surgical Handcannon iirc

[grizzled pebble]

Twins hm but I'm the only one doing boss damage. @wanton dawn

[placid portal]

or 3 tap

[placid portal]

Big man deal with big threat, little ones kill the little heretics

a perfect teamwork

[grizzled pebble]

Xd

I was last man standing with Rinda at the end with 25 bullets left.

Luckily burn is OP.

[placid portal]

Lugga is just OP

[iron marten]

Yeah, one tap as well!

[placid portal]

nani

how

[muted knot]

Trust in the god emporer of course

[placid portal]

Superiority + Bring it Down?

[iron marten]

I’ll show when I get on PC, but tl;dr, T4 Handcannon, Surgical, Superiority, Bring it Down, and the extra damage on skill activate, be it VoC, Exe stance, or Infiltrate

[placid portal]

oh

Then that makes sense

+20% power on weakpoint after skill use as well?

[iron marten]

Ye

[placid portal]

Ok then that definitely pushes the mark

[iron marten]

It sounds like a meme build, but it works and it’s super fun

[placid portal]

The Golden Gun Build

If only we can paint our weapons with GOLD

[muted knot]

A single drop of sweat running out of the crushers helmet when they see the vet pop is exec stance

[iron marten]

Sounds like a cod weapon skin you can unlock. “Get 200 kills on crushers with one shot”

[muted knot]

Hahaha

[placid portal]

Penance: "Double on Aquilla Eyes"

[wanton dawn]

FFS

[grizzled pebble]

I'm helping squads from lfg channel to do it.

They be a bit sus.

[wanton dawn]

Am starting to get bored myself

[zealous wyvern]

i will get it someday

[grizzled pebble]

I can help.

[wanton dawn]

Cant right now, good luck

[nimble sentinel]

this is for hard mode?

[sharp ember]

what are your weapons of choice for blasting the twins?

[zealous wyvern]

thank you for the offer

i will not waste anybodys time carrying me

[haughty pond]

how many of you will buy cadian vomit flak armor cosmetic if it costs the same as rouge trader cosmetics or even more?

[grizzled pebble]

Yeah.

[haughty pond]

pretty sure they will milk the price

[nimble sentinel]

I want in! I sort of know what I'm doing

[zealous wyvern]

of course cadia will milk

[grizzled pebble]

As long as one know vaguely what to do and don't die immediately.

Helping another group right now though.

[iron marten]

I could help, only problem is I live in Australia, but I can handle up to NA West ping

[nimble sentinel]

feel free to boop when there's a new group or opening in the current

[zealous wyvern]

its tiding time

[haughty pond]

double the fun double the price

for that extra grunt feeling

[zealous wyvern]

i made a cadian on my alt

will buy it for her i guess

[nimble sentinel]

steel legion keep winning

[zealous wyvern]

i love steel legion with parade helmet

will buy it on my alt

my main is only using krieg

[midnight mortar]

I wouldn't unless it actually looks like it deserves the price tag.

[zealous wyvern]

bought parade helmet but have to wait for mustard uniform steel legion

[astral blade]

holy fuck gotta say now seeing how other vets play i've gotta say allot of us vets are shit

[zealous wyvern]

a lot of every class

are

[midnight mortar]

The Legion parade helm was so close to perfect but they had to fuck up the goggles.

[zealous wyvern]

they did?

i did not notice anything

not an expert on steellegion though

[midnight mortar]

They aren't covering my eyes.

[zealous wyvern]

that is the point

parade

its for parading

[midnight mortar]

I want to be faceless. It's shiny for a parade.

[zealous wyvern]

i do get the sentiment though

i like goggles usually

but for this one i like both

lucky me

[midnight mortar]

It's not just vet.

The Twins really highlight a lot of weaknesss in builds for everyone.

[astral blade]

i know i'm playing a zealot for now to see what its like

[nimble sentinel]

I am still reeling from playing with a tagging vet that spammed tag across every elite/special in front of them and called me the idiot for asking him to stop on account of it being annoying as hell

[midnight mortar]

Figures that when FS starts actually adding rebreather tubes they move the goggles thus ensuring a missed purchase.

[thick kestrel]

sounds like they might have bound tagging to their primary fire button

profoundly annoying when people do that -_-

[midnight mortar]

All they had to do was make the same helmet as the original steel legion set and add rebreather tubes.

[zealous wyvern]

i tried that once

[nimble sentinel]

also that one time the recon vet went red on ammo in the FIRST ROOM

[midnight mortar]

Now you understand why the bind tag to m1 players are frowned upon here.

[nimble sentinel]

I actually deleted my games lantern recon build because of that

[zealous wyvern]

rightlclick tag might be fun with plasma

[vernal harbor]

going empty with a recon at the start is a sign of things to come

[zealous wyvern]

but i dont do it

[nimble sentinel]

T is not inconvenient I don't get it lol

[zealous wyvern]

t?

you have it on t?

mine is mousewheel

[nimble sentinel]

is T not default?

I play this game too much

[midnight mortar]

No.

[vernal harbor]

long finger

[midnight mortar]

Should be mouse wheel/M3.

[zealous wyvern]

good idea though

i will change to T maybe

[ivory forum]

imagine not having side buttons on your mouse

[grizzled pebble]

This group is going rough.

[zealous wyvern]

my side is grenade and special

i dont have more than 2

[grizzled pebble]

Our vet died immediately.

[midnight mortar]

I reserve those for push to talk keys.

[zealous wyvern]

what is actually speical button?

does it default to special?

i mean side mouse

[nimble sentinel]

Yop

[zealous wyvern]

what does it default to when you dont have those

[midnight mortar]

M4

Ah

I'm not sure.

[nimble sentinel]

before you say it I'm getting a wipe right now for the dust

[muted knot]

It's just Vermintide innit

[grizzled pebble]

A lot of chained weapons.

[midnight mortar]

I was just about to say good god clean that keyboard.

[zealous wyvern]

hadron just said she wants to recover the servitor colony and petions rannick

i hope we get a mission for that one day

with the tech class release

[junior needle]

It's only happened to you one time? Lucky

Scoreboard looked like this btw

Bro put down an ammo crate in the second area when he was the only one out of ammo

[wanton dawn]

Imagine fat shaming when you cant even carry your own weight

[haughty pond]

that was

fatshark reference

[haughty pond]

reminds of that one guy who went on his own, got downed,called us fucking useless and then left

[muted knot]

I implore you to show me your Kim Jong un ogryn

[haughty pond]

one can only dream

[nimble sentinel]

hell yeh

https://youtu.be/Zepmkcsuja0?si=jRa5TgHZvOH88YfQ

[haughty pond]

atoma sweep

[nimble sentinel]

https://youtu.be/B1rMvEYsMaM?si=u_kqS-dEDKAg-zz6

[muted knot]

It is time brothers

[slender turtle]

When will fatshark just give us the veteran's duty chest piece

[muted knot]

Which is what ?

[grizzled pebble]

Another carry done.

[haughty pond]

most likely lead art armor

[nimble sentinel]

Golori-Gloro-Gol...GOOD LEADAH SAH!

[haughty pond]

as someone said they won't give you nice things at this stage

[muted knot]

Oh wow

[haughty pond]

they want to milk

best looking and most anticipated armor pieces will most likely be released at the sole end of the game

so they can keep us around

[muted knot]

But cynical today aren't we ?

[pastel geode]

I mean they released some nice things already

[haughty pond]

not as nice as cadian vomit flak set

or lead art armor

they gave us crumbs I would say

like that penance rebreather

[pastel geode]

The krieg collection was good across the board and I like my Cadia armor

[grizzled pebble]

You want help with twins?

[haughty pond]

yeah lead art armor

oh that fucking gorget slaps

[nimble sentinel]

yell heah

[haughty pond]

lovely tox

[zealous wyvern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0MSpmwXBrg

[grizzled pebble]

There's a guy in lfg channel asking for group so we could be 3.

[slender turtle]

🥹

[zealous wyvern]

[haughty pond]

can agree

[nimble sentinel]

lemme know which channel to drop in

[haughty pond]

but that's still not it

[zealous wyvern]

i wish this was higher quality

the sound hurts my ears

how is there no other good loop of that meme

[haughty pond]

cry, you won't see it around for a while lol

no way they will drop it anytime soon

[pastel geode]

The other Cadia set in the files I’m convinced is being held onto until space marine 2 launches

[haughty pond]

which one

there is second one?

[pastel geode]

The more traditional armor

[slender turtle]

Which makes no sense to me. Why hold armor sets away from players

[pastel geode]

Gimme a sec to go digging for the pictures

[haughty pond]

like I said

to keep you around

they want you to play

and eventually keep spending

not working on me tho

[nimble sentinel]

I already have my piss coat and counterfeit vet gear on my zealot, I'm happy

[zealous wyvern]

it wont work on me because i only need Krieg

[nimble sentinel]

ogryn rogue trader breastplate tho 👀

[grizzled pebble]

What's ur fs code mate?

[haughty pond]

the price tho

[slender turtle]

Which makes me all the more for a mod that tricks the client side into letting you use armor you dont actually have but only you can see it

[nimble sentinel]

uh...where do I find that? I only ever matchmade with steam

[grizzled pebble]

In social tab, press e.

6179188381 that's mine can join my strike team or give me yours.

[nimble sentinel]

thank

[nimble sentinel]

2687381447

[haughty pond]

that's the one I was talking about

then what is the other one

[pastel geode]

There’s a third one but I don’t have the screenshot for it

[haughty pond]

so there are 3 cadian sets?

[zealous wyvern]

the tanker is actually cadian too

[nimble sentinel]

tbh every model available in the tabletop game and all attention in other properties goes to cadians

I'm a fan that we have a separate moebian kit

[pastel geode]

This is the one we already got

[haughty pond]

oh this one

[pastel geode]

That’s 4 then I know of

[haughty pond]

so the other must be the red one

[vernal harbor]

Tempestuous scions deserve (1) bundle

[zealous wyvern]

too op maybe

but sure

[vernal harbor]

I’d give money

[pastel geode]

The 4th has Cadia stands written on the chest with standard Cadia pattern uniform but I don’t have the screenshots. I know people found it through that mod that lets you use all the cosmetics

[zealous wyvern]

i cant wait for scions and cadians to release

[pastel geode]

I want me some vostroyan uniforms

[zealous wyvern]

people will finally stop blaming every problem of 40k on krieg fans

the hate will be spread out between the 3

because hating popular things is cool

[pastel geode]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgh43VUqrv8&t=&pp=ygUJdm9zdHJveWFu

[nimble sentinel]

to be fair krieg has been adopted by way too many wehraboos and dunking on them is morally correct always

[zealous wyvern]

not all

i have yet to meet a single one

all i ever meet is ppl whining about krieg

[nimble sentinel]

were we all so fortunate

[zealous wyvern]

never the ones they whine about

[junior needle]

When does the special mission end

[zealous wyvern]

permanent

[versed merlin]

when do we get new cosmetics

[zealous wyvern]

i heard

[small echo]

Is the ghost and deadly accurate blessing on the kantrael xii good?

[versed merlin]

deadly is

[slim rivet]

How about this regiment?

[versed merlin]

ghost no

[astral blade]

gotta say i'm not much of a zealot lol

[junior needle]

Typically headhunter is used in conjunction with deadly. Ghost is not meta currently but acceptable for use with deadshot/dnd shenanigans on lighter models. k12 focuses primarily on a headhunting playstyle for one shots.

[zealous wyvern]

praetorians

hell yeah

bring all the vintages

vostroya

mordians

[nimble sentinel]

I'd adore mordian drip

[slim rivet]

Catachans

Jopal

[zealous wyvern]

catachans need cosmetics yes but we already have some i think

[versed merlin]

plasma needs cosmetics

[slim rivet]

Sly Marbo bundle

[placid portal]

needs more pex exposure

[pastel geode]

I bet an ogryn set for this regiment would be covered head to toe with bones

[zealous wyvern]

that would be cool

who is that?

[slim rivet]

Tanith

[thick hare]

what did i want on ps6 again? outside of pcycle

[lucid notch]

Brutal Momentum?

[thick hare]

oh right

fixable?

cara + momentum?

[zealous wyvern]

my first time clutching solo

on malice though but i am level 20 with white gear

still

i am happy

[lucid notch]

yeah i think? i am not a PS guy i have one but thats about it

[zealous wyvern]

i feel fulfilled

[zealous wyvern]

wrath

not bm

that is what i read

bm is the popular choice but apparently worse than wrath

ppl just think its bm

[thick hare]

i remember people telling me to grab bm to hit some breakpoints

before too

[zealous wyvern]

yeah

[thick hare]

i just forgot what it was

[zealous wyvern]

its bm or wrath

but

apparently bm is the choir chanting while wrath is the actual better one

i dont even know what wrath does and do not use the powersword

i am just repeating

[lucid notch]

ahhh i am a knife guy 😛

[zealous wyvern]

both are good though

[thick hare]

[zealous wyvern]

what is wrath even

[thick hare]

i was just making my vet ready for hardmode twin runs, getting tired of carrying with ogryn

[zealous wyvern]

ogryn never tires sah

ogryn strongest

[thick hare]

its just cleave

[zealous wyvern]

hmm

weird

[zealous wyvern]

i wish i remembered the people saying so i could just ask them

[thick hare]

pretty sure you dont need cleave with ps

specials go through even armor

[strange jay]

is this dmg to low?

[thick hare]

if you dont have anything better sure, but plasteel is annoying to farm so

your choice

[strange jay]

he is good in everything

only some dmg missing

not sure if this could be a huge problem

[thick hare]

might make you miss breakpoints for oneshot/two shot on some elites etc maybe but

need to test to see

and it can still brick from

perks/blessings

[strange jay]

ok

[grizzled pebble]

I'm back. Still need?

[nimble sentinel]

yarp! just finished a regular game, swapping back to my vet

[grizzled pebble]

Give me your fs code again pls.

[nimble sentinel]

2687381447

[slender turtle]

Have you guys done it on sedition yet?

[grizzled pebble]

Nope it's impossible.

[nimble sentinel]

this loading screen is taking long :I

[zealous wyvern]

worth upgrading until you have a really good one

absolutely

[nimble sentinel]

finally got out of it, ready for an invite

[zealous wyvern]

although if the perks or blessings suck

spare your ressources further

[jaunty lantern]

Just got a fantastic revolver with the only bad Stat being reload. Upgraded it to blue... And got max level surgical

[muted knot]

YOOOOOOO

It his him

The omnisiah!

[jaunty lantern]

Lucky lucky

Is it gud though?

[muted knot]

Very

The revolver I general is pretty dumb

[jaunty lantern]

I have 0 experience with revolvers on vet. What build do I go for and what 2nd blessing?

[muted knot]

Surgical 4 is a 100% keep for now

[muted knot]

Handcannon

I think

[wary galleon]

the speed revolver or slow?

[jaunty lantern]

Elite killer I presume?

Slow revolver

All stats above 77, reload at 59

[junior patio]

So, are salvos the magazine or is it when you start / stop firing?

[muted knot]

When you stop firing

There's a short cool down

[junior patio]

for fucks sake man I've been playing darktide wrong

[muted knot]

What are you referring to ?

[junior patio]

the blessings

[muted knot]

Yes

You can see the cool down on you status bar I believe

At least for the first shot blessing it shows

[junior patio]

man

600 hours and i didnt realize that

big dumb right here

[muted knot]

Feel free to get a second opinion but I believe that's how it works

Furthermore: most of the salvo blessings are pretty damn bad

[jaunty lantern]

Back to the revolver... With lvl 4 surgical and lvl 4 weakspot damage rolled... what build should I go for?

[nimble sentinel]

revolver should be pretty versatile, you can go full melee if you want and still dome the heavies

[jaunty lantern]

But if I wanna lean into being a space cowboy?

[muted knot]

Well you most definitely want to go for Voice of command

[lucid notch]

Which Tactical axe is best?

[dull pilot]

mk7

[jaunty lantern]

So it would be fairly similar to the build I'm already using with a bullshit-level plasma gun. I'm running all nade skills, VoC and elite perks

[muted knot]

You can go middle or right keystone

Left just isn't it

In general and especially for the big iron

You can skip on keystones entirely too

[jaunty lantern]

What if I wanna go with no keystone, and instead throw down dynamite like it's getting out of style?

[muted knot]

Probably works

[dull pilot]

i play veteran without keystones

[muted knot]

Same

[dull pilot]

keystones really arent necessary for it

[muted knot]

But only with certain guns

The weapon specialist keystone is pretty damn fun imo

[dull pilot]

only for revolver

[muted knot]

Yeah

Well you could go plasma I suppose

Since plasma goes with everything

[solar flax]

I have a few builds taking the mark keystone and weapon swap keystone, but the weakspot one desperately needs reworked

[jaunty lantern]

I have an absolutely kraked plasma gun. Everything 80, charge rate 58

[solar flax]

I could probably drop the mark keystone out of the build that uses it, but I don't really need the points elsewhere since the last tree tweak

[muted knot]

Yikes

Charge rate affects damage lmao

[jaunty lantern]

With the barrage blessings though...

It ain't bad at all

[muted knot]

Mark is just nice in general

[solar flax]

Worked well in the new special assignment too since melting the twins in the last stage needs to go as fast as possible

[zealous wyvern]

i love this

[nimble sentinel]

okay that's tight af I might cave in to a power saber

[zealous wyvern]

red is my favourite colour

so i thought about this before

but damn it looks good

[nimble sentinel]

royal krieg mounted police

[zealous wyvern]

i will absolutely not use this on my first batches though as i want the classic blue

but damn

that is good

one day i will have a krieg army for each camo zone

[urban steppe]

yeh but its not a true krieg now

[zealous wyvern]

arctic, woodlands, blue

[zealous wyvern]

are you sure there cannot be a regiment with red?

they have many different colours

i have seen offical art of grey, blue, black, mustard, green shades

krieg has a lot of regiments

[urban steppe]

for me grey ones are true kriegs , yes im fanatic

[zealous wyvern]

i prefer blue

but i love them all

[urban steppe]

yeeesssss

[slim rivet]

welp done damnation hard mode

[zealous wyvern]

well done

[sand abyss]

Pain

[next slate]

why not pink kriegers

[muted knot]

Are you really struggling with that one ?

[sand abyss]

yea

[muted knot]

As long as you aren't taking a braced weapon you should be fine as long as you keep your eyes peeled for the green eyelenses

[sand abyss]

gonna try a rifle tha fires slower

yea like braced

[muted knot]

Yeah the mg12 lasgun works wonders

[sand abyss]

i got one rn cause i run squad lead pointer

focus target and rally cry

[muted knot]

Hells the revolver could do you just fine for that

[sand abyss]

ill see what i can do

[celest vine]

Shoot hordes at range

All enemies count

[quasi socket]

get plasma, blast unaware enemies miles away. i got it yesterday while playing with plasma. high damage and can 1 tap nearly anything from any range

tried to grind it for a while with columnus iag, not worth. plasma trivializes it

[muted knot]

Also very fair point

[toxic leaf]

finally got around to using that revolver the emperor gifted me yesterday, i havent played around with a good one before

[quasi socket]

plus you can practice hitting enemies behind cover too, find which you can blast through and what you cant

[toxic leaf]

it is so fucking good

only negative over plasma is it cannot hit behind cover, which blows

[quasi socket]

yeah, after blowing up gunner/shot funner groups with plasma, hard to go back

watching kill feed explode with your name, too good

[umbral garnet]

Plasma gun's cleave is insane, they'll likely balance it.

[toxic leaf]

revolver is so good too, the og one

easier to aim for heads anyway

[quasi socket]

yeah, one tapping heads is nice on revolver

[toxic leaf]

but plasma cleaving and hitting behind cover is just lol

and then the 50 shot mag

a weapon that can 1 tap specialists has a ~50 shot mag, ok dot jpg

[quasi socket]

its like slab shield on ogryn, too good to now use

[toxic leaf]

and a lightning quick draw time

[quasi socket]

**not, special with bleed build

[toxic leaf]

plasma can do all of that and has a ridiculous fast draw time

like i see little reason rn if you're a metacuck to not use plasma, maybe revolver and maybe columnus

[nova bane]

I've noticed plasma has latency issues though. Like sometimes I shoot and nothing happens. It feels unreliable

Revolver has never let me down

[quasi socket]

its a known bug where it doesnt make a sound, but still fires a round

[nova bane]

Huh. Alright. That lack of feedback really messes with me

[quasi socket]

you kinda get used to it after a while

[nova bane]

I'm glad it's known and not an issue on my end

Plasma seems inaccurate too, but that probably is user error. What's the optimal engagement range?

[quasi socket]

yes

i found using a different cross hair helped tbh

crosshair remap, set is as cross, still shows charge rate, but helps with long shots

its basically railgun from doom, just feels great to one tap with

[grizzled pebble]

@wanton dawn pls help I am trying to carry these dudes but they be heavy.

[wanton dawn]

wat

oh

k iam connecting

[grizzled pebble]

I did equal amount of damage as all 3 combined.

[atomic zephyr]

maybe they’re all using nerf guns?

[atomic zephyr]

the plasma gun iirc is one of the most accurate guns in the game the crosshairs just suck turbo dick

[ocean idol]

replace infested with flak and it is perfect?

[quasi socket]

yeah thats pretty good

[ocean idol]

aaaand i forgot that i actually wanted to get agri bra....

[quasi socket]

lol

[nova bane]

Yeah, they sure do. Any tips for use then?

[quasi socket]

personal take, crosshair remap mod, besides that practice with base crosshair if you dont wanna use mods

[atomic zephyr]

either practice or grab that mod that lets you change crosshairs

[ocean idol]

So which is actually better brato

[atomic zephyr]

i vastly prefer agri

graia lacks the same punch and versatility

idk about Columbus

columnus

haven’t tried it

[quasi socket]

columnus is like like the mp5 of the iag/bag guns

[wanton dawn]

man i played like ass

well, still first try i guess

[atomic zephyr]

the graia one is the faster firing brauto

yes, they swapped the names

[quasi socket]

huh...

[atomic zephyr]

columnus brauto is middle ground

[grizzled pebble]

Aye sloppy but we made it anyway.

[ocean idol]

sooo is it good or nah

[fresh grail]

agri is space AK, is all you need

[ocean idol]

I like sloppy

[atomic zephyr]

the agri? it’s fucking awesome

one of my favorite guns in the game

[ocean idol]

no, graia

[atomic zephyr]

oh

[ocean idol]

i use agri on zealot

[atomic zephyr]

idk I don’t like it

[fresh grail]

meh, i don't like the bad penetration

[ocean idol]

agri also has bad pen

[fresh grail]

agri has amazing pen when shooting hordes

[atomic zephyr]

it counters by knocking everything it hits flat on its ass

also I’ve shot through ogryn allies with the agri so it has to have some pen

[quasi socket]

today is gonna be fun

first group on vet, psyker and other vet run directly on top of dh

[ashen stirrup]

sheeesh I popped off. Regular damnation no modifier

[wanton dawn]

that some nice damage for a regular

40 min game ?

[ashen stirrup]

33

[wanton dawn]

impressivve

[ashen stirrup]

warren 6-19

[wanton dawn]

Yeah, I dunno that map name

[ashen stirrup]

the newest map that's not the twins one

[wanton dawn]

oh, the carnival drug lab

[ashen stirrup]

ye

[wanton dawn]

Still haven't done this one too much. Not familiar with its overal density

[quasi socket]

at the end theres constant swarming

[zealous wyvern]

i purposefully refuse to learn the map names, objectives and overall layout as best i can

it keeps the game fresh

[finite imp]

"purposefully"

https://tenor.com/view/dwight-gif-27035780

[zealous wyvern]

yeah

never look at the mission names

hard not to learn the map layout though

[quasi socket]

blessings for plasma? i know gets hot, but whats the other?

[junior needle]

blaze away

Some people like glory hunter

[zealous wyvern]

do you need toughness? glory hunter

[quasi socket]

i have glory hunter 2 on it currently, abusing that lol

[zealous wyvern]

2?

not 4?

low level?

[quasi socket]

it rolled on a 376...

using it to gimp along and take a break from columnus til i can roll up a good one

[zealous wyvern]

ah

[nova bane]

On Xbox, so practice it is

[rich plinth]

Which of the chainsword is the better one?

It's been a while for me and now there's also XIIIg variant of it

[limber egret]

my new bolter

imma replace the button blessing with pinning fire and sprint effciency with unyielding and its good

so yey luckly not garbage perks or blessings again

[fresh jungle]

it's perfectly accurate, afaik, with no spread at all on it. So once you get used to the funky crosshair you should be golden

[limber egret]

tho thoughts on this bolter?

[rich plinth]

yay or nay?

[analog blaze]

It's not the best stats (you want highest damage and stopping power you can get) but it's fine. Certainly usable

[tall torrent]

Change the 2 perks and play around to see if u can reach one headshot both gunner & both flamer

[rich plinth]

you're asking me to sacrifice even more souls to the Omnissiah

[bronze veldt]

Double max perks

[analog blaze]

The only life worth living is one of sacrifice to the Omnissiah

[rich plinth]

2hp left at point blank... damn it

[tall torrent]

Tag keystone can help

[rich plinth]

2hp at point blank (so not utilising the +damage based on distance and without the +damage at 8 meters or above)
so should I go for + dmg specialists or elites?

[tall torrent]

Which enemy

Because you can use the tag keystone to boost dmg

Works for both elites & specialists

[rich plinth]

both gunners have ~2hp left, flamers have ~5% hp left

[dim citrus]

Decent revolver?

[rich plinth]

at point blank

[analog blaze]

Is this with the + damage to elite perk on the left side tree?

[rich plinth]

I found 1 point in the skill tree that could be reallocated to +5% ranged damage

[rich plinth]

yes (I've finally found it)

[analog blaze]

I want to say the break point is 75/75 for damage/stopping power but that was based also based on pre patch 13

[rich plinth]

I can still roll the perk around to boost maniacs

[rich plinth]

I had one that was around this value, but every other stat was... suboptimal to put it mildly

[limber egret]

Oof this is just pain to look at

[vernal harbor]

it got dropped on the ground a couple times

[gritty mirage]

just shake it a few times

and it should work again

[limber egret]

here

my bolter is complete

[gritty mirage]

maybe i should use bolter on the karnak twins...

still trying hard mode*

[toxic leaf]

dont you just want to go voc and plasma to clear specialists

pair up with ogryns and zealots for the boss dps lol

[gritty mirage]

the sound bug is really pissing me off for plasma lol

half the time theres no sound and it just screws with my brain

its a rythm in my head, sound designs super important for me when i play

[sick cedar]

Finally got my ideal helbore, the stats ain't all 80% but I'm really happy with what I got

[limber egret]

with surigcal if you get shock trooper talent point you consume no ammo every time you fire

absolutely hilarious

[sick cedar]

Yeah that's what I run

[limber egret]

Oof lmao

it works the best with hellbore since you can do full charge attack with it as well

so you get extra damage while using surgcial

[atomic zephyr]

hopped on my psyker to get some variety in my life
looked up new builds on that one website
3 of the top 5 builds are voidstrike builds

fucking snore

[hazy notch]

This is the Veteran Chat?

[atomic zephyr]

yes.

[hasty reef]

Playing as a psyker is heresy in its own right

[hazy notch]

ok so cry about in the psyker chat

[atomic zephyr]

no

lol

im just talkin chill

[crude ermine]

People talk about vet in zel and zel in psyker, it really doesn't matter too much lol, ain't thee end of times

[hasty reef]

No we all gon die now

[atomic zephyr]

sorry guys ive consigned vet chat to death

[crude ermine]

You've doomed us all

[hasty reef]

Exterminatus on the channel

[viscid vessel]

It's the only way to remove the taint of the warp.

[finite imp]

Okay gotta make a new vet chat and just call this one kinda vet chat

Then everyone happy

[atomic zephyr]

lol

[fathom grail]

Just rename vet chat to skill issue

[gritty mirage]

you arent wrong

it truly is skill issue for me right now

damn you karnak twins on hard

i noticed i survived much better in the fight as ogryn

[hazy notch]

now you need 3 more

What Modifiers/Perk/Blessing are the best for 1 infantry Autogun

[still leaf]

as I'm getting towards 30 and starting to eye gearing up, how do I tell when to buy gear to start upgrading?

is there like.. 'aim for when stats > X on Y tier item'?

[weary hornet]

Ok, how lucky am I with this?

[crude ermine]

Pretty nice

Idk what to look for stat wise in the plasma gun, gettin kinda bored of the revolver

[pearl sapphire]

Hellbore gooder

Not biased at all

[drowsy kayak]

is stopping power a dump stat for the plasma gun?

[south garnet]

pubs have become really unbearably awful within the last like week, wtf

[merry oak]

New people

New people who think they can take on harder difficulties

[south garnet]

[merry oak]

Or are PSYK slaves and only have builds that work on paper

[analog blaze]

Absolutely not. Increases damage to elites.

[merry oak]

Yea it's extra kick

Some people dump thermal

But I only use helbore

So I wouldint really know

[drowsy kayak]

dont reallyuse plasma either lol

[hidden torrent]

Plasma is my favorite tbh

Was even before any of it's buffs

[tiny summit]

Different weapons will have different stats that can live with being a dump stats. At 30, weapons have a max of 380 at a base rating off of only stats. Depending on how much you play and willingness on waiting for a good roll will determine what will be worth to you. Many who are already invested are looking for their god rolls. I personally don't look at anything below 360 base stats wise.

[still leaf]

so it'

[junior needle]

Mhm, don't start going hard on crafting and buying until 30

[merry oak]

Yea

[still leaf]

so it's more weapon specific than just 'look for a minimum X across the board'

[merry oak]

Yea

[tiny summit]

But weapons below that rating aren't "unusable trash", it's just unoptimal and many here are looking for max value

[junior needle]

On ranged weapons you can generally dump mobility no problem, and always want to keep damage/stopping power at max with ammo a close second in importance. Stability may or may not be vital depending on the gun.

The rating is not as important as how well rolled it is.

[merry oak]

Recon without Stopping power the only thing keeping it from being great >:(

[tiny summit]

Yea. Most weapons of course you're gonna want max dmg but hey if it's not max dmg but it's evened out with +60s in certain areas, the weapon will likely be fine, you're min-maxing after that

[crude ermine]

What perk should I swap since I only have one to use on

[junior needle]

So don't think any below 360 weapon will be bad, a 340 can absolutely be better than a 380 that dumped damage.

[still leaf]

copy, makes sense broadly

that's the thing; this is my first toon who'll reach 30, so I'm very resource limited, so I want to make sure before I go hard on upgrading anything that any investments make sense so I'm not stuck in recovery mode

[junior needle]

Given how they still comparatively blow with onslaught and rending strikes, it's a bit more than a lack of penetration.

The base stats needs adjustment too.

[tiny summit]

Also see how weapon scale in their stats. You may see some weapons with 20% or more difference in dmg but the scaling isn't actually reflective of that. Or ammo. Some weapons can have a 20% or more ammo differential and its like not even half a mag difference

[junior needle]

I cannot read le froge

What's there

[merry oak]

Yea it's just not efficient. But i doubt they would buff it more atm

[hidden summit]

Just hit level 30 in the class I was dreading the most! Surprisingly fun and my aim definitely improved over time. What’s a great plasma build I can play around with?

[junior needle]

It outputs like 1/2-1/4 the damage of alternatives, it's needs a sizable boost.

[crude ermine]

Groaners and efficiency

[merry oak]

Block efficient and damage to infected

[junior needle]

Block efficiency? Probably replace groaners and poxes, assuming you actually block regularly

[tiny summit]

Plasma is plasma. Can't really go wrong with just down the middle tree. Survivalist good to detour for.

[tender lynx]

last class for four leaf

[merry oak]

Cool welcome to the suffer8ng club

[inland orchid]

Welcome to shovel central soldier

Enjoy the very handy ammo aura when u get the levels for the upgraded version, is mad clutch in higher difficulties

[merry oak]

Middle tree is OP if you know what to do

I don't need ammo when I got helbore bayonet

[still leaf]

I rolled the shooty class, I'm taking the shooty talents.

[hidden summit]

Personally I kinda hate the helbore. It’s incredibly unwieldy.

I leveled with the revolver and loved the one tap potential

[merry oak]

After spending 900 hours on the weapon I can't say that anymore

[tiny summit]

Nah it's helbore or plasma atm for me. Helbore favoring right now

[hidden summit]

Fair

[merry oak]

You don't need a melee weapon with helbore

[hidden summit]

Which mark?

[tiny summit]

Helbore allowing me to go throughout an entire mission only pulling out melee to push poxbursters

[merry oak]

Mk1& 2 if you want to play with bayonet

[tiny summit]

Mk1 and 2 have good bayonet stab. Mk3 bayonet kinda clunky and bad

[merry oak]

Mk3 is a bastard child

[tiny summit]

Needs to be an axe or halberd

[merry oak]

Or just stab

[still leaf]

^

[merry oak]

Idk what they were thinking

[zealous wyvern]

mk3 bayonet is sadly poorly animated

[tender lynx]

out of these 3 voice which one is most used?

[zealous wyvern]

the attack itself is fine they just messed up the

execution

[tiny summit]

Professional

[zealous wyvern]

pro

loose cannon second i think

[merry oak]

Ye

[zealous wyvern]

cadian voice is the least common one in my games

i see you made him cadian. the most common choice

[merry oak]

Cadia has the hardest lines with voice of command

[zealous wyvern]

true

but they are all good at it

[merry oak]

Idk man

[zealous wyvern]

not a one fails to deliver

no no no no

they are all good

you are just a traitor

[tender lynx]

loose cannon sound like he having ptsd

[inland orchid]

SHOW ME YOUR KARKIN WARFACES

[zealous wyvern]

FIGHT OR ANSWER TO ME

[merry oak]

Cadia spitting lines of death and vengence on activation activates my neurons

[still leaf]

it's 40k, everyone has ptsd

it's standard issue

[zealous wyvern]

NO DYING BEFORE I SAY SO

the professional does not have ptsd

he would have the opposite thing

[inland orchid]

I WANNA HEAR THEM SCREAM

[zealous wyvern]

where he gets so used to it that when reentering normal life

[inland orchid]

[tender lynx]

what about prof

[zealous wyvern]

he is completely incompatible with society

due to being a killing monster now

[still leaf]

yeah, that's still ptsd 😛

[zealous wyvern]

is it?

idk

stress disorder

ok well

[merry oak]

GIVE THEM THE KASRKIN DOUBLE TAP

[still leaf]

rofl

[zealous wyvern]

is ANY disorder you get from traumatic stress ptsd?

[tender lynx]

i always have hard time choosing voice since you can't change it

[atomic zephyr]

cutthroat has the best shout lines

[tiny summit]

"So how's Cadia doing right now?"

[zealous wyvern]

is it really trauma if you are fine with it

[atomic zephyr]

by far

[still leaf]

it's kinda a catch all bucket, but

[zealous wyvern]

i guess so

[merry oak]

Pretty basic imo

[zealous wyvern]

i feel like its not a stress disorder in those cases

[atomic zephyr]

professional is one of the few actually kinda friendly ones

[zealous wyvern]

just a disorder

[zealous wyvern]

no

pro is very harsh

[atomic zephyr]

relative terms

[zealous wyvern]

cannon is far nicer

cannon is the nice guy

[merry oak]

New cadia is a thing now atm

[zealous wyvern]

still in relative terms of course

[atomic zephyr]

cannon feels like they'd shank me if i found some cool loot

[zealous wyvern]

but professional is actually REALLY mean

he just insults everyone

the whole time

i am kind of sad about that

[merry oak]

Lol

[quasi socket]

cadian, rp, plus ambush line with ogryn

[zealous wyvern]

i want my char to be stoic, not like that

[atomic zephyr]

if professional insults everyone, cutthroat fucking kills them

lol

[zealous wyvern]

yeah

[tender lynx]

same

[zealous wyvern]

cutthroat is pro to 11

[tiny summit]

Kinda wish there was interactions where the loose canon gets the codes wrong and the professional corrects them

[atomic zephyr]

honestly i like the vibes between the female and male professional

[tender lynx]

what do you guys think about voiceline that fit krieg

[atomic zephyr]

they feel like theyve known each other a long time

[tiny summit]

"Wah wah wah"

[atomic zephyr]

no that's loose cannon

[zealous wyvern]

professional is rude to psykers, zealots, other soldiers if they die (at least some of them?), rude about ammo (dont tell me what to do)

[tiny summit]

Ah

[zealous wyvern]

he is definitely not nice

[tiny summit]

Idk the female lines, still good

[zealous wyvern]

but he is not as bad as the cadian for sure

[merry oak]

My head cannon: my Cuttrhoat vet is salty cause they ran out of Cadian uniforms and only had Krieg ones.

[tender lynx]

and cadian is worse?

[zealous wyvern]

yes

cadian is horrible

but super ptsd about it

you can tell sometimes that he doesnt mean it

[tender lynx]

let me try loose cannon

[zealous wyvern]

and is just protecting himself from emotion

loose cannon is the nicest by far