veteran-class

[limber egret]

i just dont bother with the keystones

[versed merlin]

[frank ether]

I like to do the funny voc meme

where I take all the ability damage modifiers

hit VoC

[limber egret]

i also have recently did a toughness stack

[frank ether]

giga damage for 10 seconds

[limber egret]

so im at 206 currently

[frank ether]

If I could fit in agile engagement in there I would

but its unfortunately at a very cursed place

[wanton dawn]

Focus target is an easy 12% damage buff on your whole team, another up to 32% damage on one target on top of thoughness regen

I don't think marksman focus can compete on priority target damage

[frank ether]

I guess at the end of the day

[limber egret]

what the rest of my build is

[frank ether]

melee vet being so good despite being next to smoke and speed aura is telling

[serene sage]

seems good 👍

maybe skip field improve for 10% melee?

[limber egret]

this is for my plasma gun

[frank ether]

what weapons is this for

oh

well

[limber egret]

this specifically

[frank ether]

you still need decent melee on your plasma build

[limber egret]

which i just gotten today

i have this as well

that im gonna replace wrath with BM

its basically my horde clearing weapon

the rest i just yeet with plasma gun

[frank ether]

yea wrath isnt great

[versed merlin]

ikr smoke nade and speed aura there are real true pain

and melee vet needs so much point investment

[frank ether]

kinda sucks cause above speed aura

you have some banger talents

%10 melee node

[versed merlin]

yeah absolutely

[frank ether]

agile engagement

which is like a mini keystone in itself

[versed merlin]

its so nutty

[frank ether]

depending on your weapon agile is better than the weapon spec keystone lmao

[limber egret]

but i also wanted field impro because it gives me and aliles grenades and medi packs removes curruption

[versed merlin]

legit

but i cant play without weap spec anymore

[wanton dawn]

You dont really need field improv. Outside of twins

[torn gorge]

dont forget the free 25% power on the other weapon when you get a kill

[versed merlin]

i got sooo used to the atk speed buff and quick weapon pull from shotty and revolver

[frank ether]

you also dont need to take highlight for allies on volley fire btw

[torn gorge]

that one turns your zarona into a 1tap bodyshot a train of elites

[versed merlin]

kinda became my main vet playstyle now lol

[frank ether]

its only ever useful on dark missions

but we ignore those

just... ignore those

[wanton dawn]

I enjoy darkness monstro

Carnaval darkness is VERY dark though

[limber egret]

i have stuff like highlight enemies for support

[frank ether]

speaking of smoke grenade memes

[limber egret]

my vet is also support in a way

[frank ether]

do you think smokes would work on karnak twins?

[wanton dawn]

I think I tried it

[frank ether]

the plasma hurts

and.. did it work?

[wanton dawn]

I don't think the twins care about smoke

[frank ether]

lmao

classic

fatshark please

just admit that it doesnt work

we will all pretend

this never happened

[versed merlin]

how dark can it be if you pop up stealth throw a smoke nade and use a stimm on top of being in a dark modifier mission

[limber egret]

my build for my plasma gun is basically allows me to vent constantly and not worruy about running out of toughness

im hilariously tanky toughness(206 currently)

so i can just constantly use plasma gun

[wanton dawn]

I did try it on my first hm runs. Then I switched to frags and did not look back

[frank ether]

yeah why suppress enemies

when you can kill them

frag also stuns them around too

[versed merlin]

frags does wonder in that fight

[wanton dawn]

Frags is MVP on twins yeah

[limber egret]

i could replace something for covering fire

[frank ether]

yeah better than krak in that fight

for sure

[wanton dawn]

do not it is bait

Most vet "support" talent are bait

[versed merlin]

i cant get into krak anymore

[frank ether]

with the sheer amount of ragers and carapace thrown at your face

[limber egret]

does it not work?

[versed merlin]

so used to frags now

[wanton dawn]

It is just subpar

[versed merlin]

i hate krak tbh

[wanton dawn]

Covering fire is subpar, born leader is subpar

[frank ether]

Next time I run hm

I'll try your thing

sunder ps on melee vet

[limber egret]

oh wait its if enemies are 5 meters next to enemy

Oof thats garbage

[serene sage]

vet support talent worth taking is VoC with overshield and Redirect Fire, maybe Field Improv

that's about it imo

[wanton dawn]

field improv is MVP on twins though

[frank ether]

I think if there is ever a moment for sunder to shine this is it

[serene sage]

oh yeah for sure

I thought we are talking about normal game mode

[frank ether]

I like chaxe better personally

[wanton dawn]

It is not great for the boss. It is fine for all the rest though

[frank ether]

but I guess

ps is easier?

sunder ps you just

spam lights you know?

easy

[wanton dawn]

I have more success at trash handling rather than boss damage

[limber egret]

is this worth it?

[serene sage]

@formal lake how do you deal with say a pack of 6 ragers using rashad?

[limber egret]

even tho low chance?

[low oar]

If you have a free point tbh

[serene sage]

I know block push can stagger but that's not enough time to kill them all

[low oar]

It's not bad since it's incredibly free

[serene sage]

is there a tech? or just back and swap to gun?

[limber egret]

wait i might just get bring it down instead

[frank ether]

often times the problem is ppl suck at clearingg the elites long after poison phase is over

[limber egret]

took off hight light enemyes for allies

for it

[wanton dawn]

Especially now that I have fixed my scoreboard I know my boss damage on successful run tends to be lowish at best

[serene sage]

do you run stamina curios for that?

[limber egret]

might work better

[placid portal]

Heavy attack does less damage than lights vs ragers for some reason

[wanton dawn]

Nah, someone did a fix on the discord

[placid portal]

Or more so by dps

[wanton dawn]

The problem is that the one that publish the scoreboard is kinda inactive

[serene sage]

mod.bosses = {
"chaos_beast_of_nurgle",
"chaos_daemonhost",
"chaos_spawn",
"chaos_plague_ogryn",
"chaos_plague_ogryn_sprayer",
"renegade_captain",
"renegade_twin_captain",
"renegade_twin_captain_two",
}
add to scoreboard default plugins lua
and count bosss damage for them

is this what you're looking for

[wanton dawn]

Lemme check

I put this {name = "renegade_twin_captain", text = "Renegade Twins 1", validation = "ASC", iteration = "ADD", visible = false, group = "offense", setting = "plugin_boss_threats", }, {name = "renegade_twin_captain_two", text = "Renegade Twins 2", validation = "ASC", iteration = "ADD", visible = false, group = "offense", setting = "plugin_boss_threats", }, in Scoreboard_rows.lua

and this in scoreboard_default_plugins.lua mod.bosses = { "chaos_beast_of_nurgle", "chaos_daemonhost", "chaos_spawn", "chaos_plague_ogryn", "chaos_plague_ogryn_sprayer", "renegade_captain", "renegade_twin_captain", "renegade_twin_captain_two", }

Well, i add the two last lines

[versed merlin]

does anyone have any tips for grinding pc4? minimum base ratings, upgrading to orange, or might be better waiting for it to pop on melks?

[wanton dawn]

Line 760 for the first, 711 for the 2nd

[placid portal]

Consecrate to blue and scrap if not found

[serene sage]

it just add damage correctly to boss damage right?

[placid portal]

Repeat until broke or obtained

[serene sage]

doesn't actually add a new row?

[placid portal]

[wanton dawn]

yeah. Am not an expert at scoreboard mod despite what ppl might think

[versed merlin]

is upgrading to orange not worth it?

dont you get higher chance of getting a t4 blessing by taking it to orange?

or yellow, idk which color is that

[wanton dawn]

I discovered lua cuz I wanted to add the winrate to the scoreboard. Cuz it annoyed me

I do have good experience in programming though so there is that

Yeah, that was wild

[serene sage]

I just delete them and pretend they don't exist

I just keep the normal game mdoe ones

[paper brook]

Gotta say I'm loving the Christopher Columbus MK V gun so far

[wanton dawn]

Am gonna call the gun christopher from now on

[devout atlas]

That's a lot more respectful than The Columbussy 5 that's for sure

but yeah it's pretty great. Agri IAG is my preferred since it has a lower Deadshot drainrate and you can skip Onslaught and the like especially as it has some built in Rend%.

[paper brook]

Ahh but does it outdo the Christopher in DPS?

[devout atlas]

no but its not far behind at all, and it does outdo it at further ranges. I'd argue it does better under sustained fire too since you can maintain Deadshot indefinitely fairly easily while Columnussy can have times of stamina draught.

Both are goated. I pref Columni on Psyker as their Gaze gives them free crit% like Deadshot without stamina drain on command

Graia on the other hand is kinda zzzz mimimi I think on Psyker with very good aim it can be decent due to Psykers headshot damage being silly goofy but it requires a lot more effort for frankly not that much of a boon over Columnus on Psyker

oh yeah Agri has silly cleave values too which is nice

[paper brook]

Does Onslaught help a lot with the Christopher? I know brittleness is a debuff for the enemy and from what I've noticed it seems to help a lot due to the very high fire rate

[placid portal]

Christopher?

[iron marten]

Le columnus mk v

[placid portal]

Lmao

It works

[wanton dawn]

Christopher colomnus

[placid portal]

Become the BRRRRRT submackeen gun

[iron marten]

Btw, can Vraks 7 HH be used in Psyker?

[placid portal]

You could

Just focus crits and deadly accurate

[devout atlas]

Yeah I guess

[placid portal]

Blast skulls like ripe melons

[iron marten]

Awesome, just built a vraks 7 on my vet and I’m loving it

[devout atlas]

I'd rather go laspis tho

laspis, revy and column are goated on psyk

[iron marten]

I already have laspistol built on my psyker

[placid portal]

I wish laspistol ADS wasnt the angled aim

[iron marten]

If my team won’t do boss damage, I will

[placid portal]

I hate angled aim cant align my shots well and so small sights

[devout atlas]

I just used Weapon Customisation to remove the scope and Crosshair Remap to give myself a cheveron floating crosshair

[fresh lake]

Best way to build an accatran las gun?

[placid portal]

Crits and dummy dum

[devout atlas]

Step 1: Build a time machine

[iron marten]

Recon Lasgun? Headhunter and Dum Dum/Infernus

[placid portal]

Going back to patch 13

[iron marten]

And take shocktrooper on the vet tree

[fresh lake]

alright, my recon is good to go then

[iron marten]

Recon Lasgun died so Plasma gun could run

[devout atlas]

Unironically if you fix the sights on MG4 with mods it completely BTFOs recons

[placid portal]

More liek plasmagun floats to heaven

[devout atlas]

lasguns have the dumbest recoil

[iron marten]

I just wish the charged shots of plasma gun have a purpose

[placid portal]

Lucius having no recoil or sway is godsend

[devout atlas]

MG4 has very little practical recoil but it has insane weapon shake

The actual point of impact basically doesn't move but the gun model is undergoing an earthquake simulation

[placid portal]

I hate how kantrael recoil jumps so much

[devout atlas]

The way you legitimately need like 3 mods to fix lasguns is kinda disgusting 😭

[muted knot]

What

[placid portal]

You cant shoot full fire rate bc your sights wants to jump

[devout atlas]

by fix I mean make them not a pain in the ass to use

[iron marten]

lmao

[iron marten]

I meant what I said!!!

[muted knot]

Elaborate

[placid portal]

Full auto
Weapon customization
No lasgun recoil animation?

[devout atlas]

crosshair remap to just use a floating crosshair instead of sights but yea

[placid portal]

Floating crosshair is nice

I should get it

[devout atlas]

Lemme record what I did to it

[iron marten]

Charged shots taking 9 shots, while normal shots take up 3 and do more damage than charged shots when you shoot 3 times. I’ve never seen an Auric Plasma player use its charged shot

[muted knot]

Okay I see your point but: you do spend more time firing those three shots no ?

You want the big shot if you need the extra damage

[placid portal]

Dont plasma gun shoot pretty fast?

[muted knot]

It do

[iron marten]

Not really, around the same time I’d say, and Blaze Away procing helps too!

[placid portal]

How to use plasma:
Blaze away
It gets Hot
Spam
Die
Repeat

[muted knot]

anime profile pic detected, opinion invalid i see what you are saying I need to test this some time

[iron marten]

[placid portal]

Blaze away really puts charged shots to shame

[muted knot]

Which ones blaze away?

[devout atlas]

more you shoot more damage gun does

up to 40%

[muted knot]

Oh

[iron marten]

Tier 3 only blessing, more power if you spam

[muted knot]

I run the crit with extra heat

[cloud leaf]

Get the full auto mod and hold left click ez win

[iron marten]

Ah

[devout atlas]

honestly considering getting an MG4 with something stupid like No Respite + Deadly Accurate

Majority of its single target damage is Deadly Accurate because Infernus is a meme

Nah No Respite would never proc hm

Probably just Headhunter right?

Even though it crits a ton mo crits mo better

Maybe Ghost lmao

[muted knot]

And glory hunter cause I don't have any other good blessings for it

[devout atlas]

Ooh

Okay hear me out

this is stupid

Ia almost 1 taps Infested

[muted knot]

Also thank you to whoever said I should add fire frenzy to my Columnus, it fucks even more now

[devout atlas]

Oh

This Ia has 20% Infested on it

nvm

LOL

[muted knot]

That doesn't seem great

[devout atlas]

Yea no

MG4 is more ammo efficient

If they both two tap Infested MG4 is better nvm

[slim rivet]

thoughts?

[devout atlas]

I don't have many of those sorry

thoughts I mean

I am not a lasgun gamer I just use the MG4 because funny infinite ammo gun

[slim rivet]

Kek
I meant for the lasgun good enough or bricked

[devout atlas]

Hm

[midnight mortar]

Efficiency -> Deadly Accurate

[devout atlas]

Well perks are ass

ammo doesnt matter much

[midnight mortar]

-> Ranged damage to groaners to Flak or Maniac

It's not great either way.

[devout atlas]

Not that amazing

[midnight mortar]

But that's about the most you could salvage.

[devout atlas]

I'd reroll try getting an Ia

Ia with Opening Salvo can 1 tap gunners pretty well

I am an MG4 enjoyer because I am stupid and weird

(its actually fun to use once you fix the sights on it)

[slim rivet]

I usually run with the lucius one
But the kantrael could go to my supplier build

[devout atlas]

I used to run lucius but I hate the delay and equip time

I use MG4 in a very wacky way

Since it has infinite ammo with the right setup I just

mow everything down

autofire goes brrr

[slim rivet]

I run with the mk 1, mk 3 has slow melee than mk 1 without run boost

[devout atlas]

It weirdly works I've used it on Auric Maelstroms lol

[slim rivet]

Ill pair up the kantrael pattern with my krak trooper

[thick rose]

jesus christ I hate "invincible zealots"

[muted knot]

Mg12 got kind of left behind with the amount of buffs other weapons got so ehh

[devout atlas]

Mg12 is kinda iffy now since Ia kinda does its job

[thick rose]

im gonna fuck off way ahead, activate every static spawn shooter because "they cant hit me"

[midnight mortar]

It's still good in my experience. It has the fastest TTK.

[devout atlas]

MG4 meanwhile is just brrrrrrrrrt

[thick rose]

and ignore my team pinned between all the ranged they switched on and all the spawns they arent helping with

[slim rivet]

Sadge welp gonna find a Ia instead

[midnight mortar]

The real problem is that Helbores do its job better and even faster.

[thick rose]

zzzz

[midnight mortar]

If you're good at hitting headshots, the XII still has the fastest TTK of all Kantrael lasguns.

I wouldn't bin it.

The other lasrifle variants only out DPS the XII on bodyshots.

And their TTKs are slightly longer.

They're all viable now.

It's just the XII is still the fastest if you're accurate.

[slim rivet]

Kk
Could do some headshots unless they come closer or teammates just kill them faster

[devout atlas]

gonn do an MG4 auric while in class brb

[slim rivet]

Drat only t1 deadly accurate

[devout atlas]

I'd record but you'd hear my crusty ass professor

[serene sage]

My guy just don't fail the damn class lmao

[devout atlas]

It's mandatory economics dw

fucking baby math

[slim rivet]

Could give up my Ia purple with a t2 deadly accurate but want to see what i get on transcendent

[devout atlas]

OH WAIT FUCK NVM ITS MATH

oh nvm thank god its just electrotechnical class

i got jumpscared because i forgot my math teacher runs this one too

[slim rivet]

oh wait melk has this

[tame lichen]

What would yall say the fasters way to powervlevel a character is

getting carried in a damnation?

[midnight mortar]

Completing the highest difficulty mission you can consistently run.

Auric modifiers include higher docket and exp payout.

Damnation is the highest tier difficulty.

[tame lichen]

Im definitely dreading leveling this zealot, psyker was trash too

[slim rivet]

And what i heard damnation is better than heresy in terms of difficulty for some reason...

Other than the payouts of course

[vernal harbor]

ladies and gentlemen i am pleased to confirm that grenadier build is indeed crazy as hell

[midnight mortar]

If by better you mean "more consistent" then that's usually true.

Because more experienced players are on Damnation than Heresy.

[paper brook]

Guys do you think the Machine Spirit is capable of fixing Darktide's optimization?

[serene sage]

Yes but it will cost you a ludicrous amount of platsteel

[iron marten]

Can they take my diamantine instead?

I have 45k of the buggers

[paper brook]

^

I WIll give them my Christopher Columbus MK V as a down payment

[devout atlas]

I wasn't lying lmao

MG4 infinite ammo build is wack

Literally a hotshot lasgun

[devout atlas]

^ if you wanted to see what it can do. I run this. Could use more stopping power. Honestly I think my ideal would weirdly be Unarmored + Crit Chance with Infernus and Deadly Accurate

Deadly Accurate + Unarmored lets you 1 tap Unarmored Gunners

Idk Flak probably helps a ton though, I weirdly mow down through Maulers very quickly

just bodyshot spam

The talent setup if you're interested. I run 2 stam curios and a toughness curio. You have fuckall HP so a defensive melee is good. I like Mk3 Shovel myself

[muted knot]

Why the bottom right talents ?

Wouldn't you rather go for rending in middle tree ?

[devout atlas]

Why though

Duck and Dive and more crit chance is fantastic for this

10% Rend for what reason? So we're slightly less shit against Crushers?

I just VoC/Shredder stun Crushers and Mk3 special to kill them.

[muted knot]

Fair enough

[devout atlas]

but yeah weirdly good build. I first ran it as a meme because "MG4 funny shitty lasgun" nah turns out it's weirdly very good? The sights are abysmal though.

No audio because I was at online class

Like it's objectively a very meh weapon in the short-term

but the fact you can just fire it non stop, no pause, only switching to melee on very small occasions actually makes it kinda fuck

[devout atlas]

Try it out, if you hate the sights this is how I got mine to look that way ^

Run it as a meme and realize it very weirdly works super well

[crisp lagoon]

What stats should I look for in a power sword?

[idle carbon]

the MG4 is pretty good ya

it reaches a lot of nice breakpoints if you're running a left side tree marksman's focus

I like the gothic arch reflex sight though, so I tend to keep it

[idle carbon]

power cylcer 4 + sunder / BM
perks can basically be anything, though you'll want carapace + elites if you want to two-tap crushers without the vet ping

[crisp lagoon]

What's the dump stat with it?

[idle carbon]

mobility, like most weapons

[crisp lagoon]

Mobility?

[tardy plaza]

What the fuck is this?

This is in the game?

[idle carbon]

extended extended weapon customization

[tardy plaza]

o

[crisp lagoon]

Thanks, I just got my vet to 30 so I'm actually looking for weapons now

[tardy plaza]

Do you need the mod to rename your weapon?

[idle carbon]

yes, it's called Name It

[tardy plaza]

sad

[robust mesa]

If you want to have a good time as a vet play ogryn

[idle carbon]

mods make this game infinitely more enjoyable to play lol

[devout atlas]

I just renamed my MG4

[devout atlas]

yea

modding this game is easier than even Skyrim

literally drag and drop

[idle carbon]

yet somehow the modding discord has more than it's fair share of people who can't figure that out

[devout atlas]

we live in a world where disposable vapes are a thing because zoomers are too braindead to put liquid inside a vape

[robust mesa]

I put liquid in u

[devout atlas]

?

[robust mesa]

u are now a vape

[wanton dawn]

lvl 31 psyker want to unlock bell in damn

[idle carbon]

not sure if the MG4 can classify as a hotshot lasgun, kinda hits like a wet towel heh

[wanton dawn]

gl to me'

am here for trainwreck

[idle carbon]

compared to the other lasguns anyhow

[devout atlas]

Oh yeah true, it's more like a multi-laser I guess

I think I meant to call it a Hellgun

wait

thats just a hot-shot

okay look it hits like a wet towel but goes brrrrrt like a hot-shot

uh

warm-shot lasgun

:D

[idle carbon]

double-linked flashlight

[devout atlas]

I'm gonna rename it to warmshot lasgun

that's kinda funny

Unpleasantgun

[idle carbon]

the Throngler

[south glen]

Is infiltration bad or something I got called slurs for using it

[idle carbon]

people for some reason think you grief with it

same with shroudfield

[devout atlas]

A lot of infiltrate/shroudfield players are anti-teamwork. It's just a common stereotype that doesn't necessarily apply to you.

[idle carbon]

I've been running an infil vet on 3 different chars and I haven't been attacked about it yet though

[north raptor]

infiltration can be the most teamwork-oriented if you use it to complete objectives without needing cover or clutch rez

[devout atlas]

Ye

[north raptor]

dont worry about the stereotype and just enjoy it

[idle carbon]

granted I have recently been inducted into the shovel gang

[south glen]

I was told “if I want to melee use zealot” maybe I was using it wrong but normally I just look up a build and use it without gameplay

[devout atlas]

Ehh yeah those people are very out of date lol

[karmic musk]

tfw my Infiltrate is only used for objectives or reviving

[devout atlas]

Same with people being toxic about gunpsykers

[astral blade]

Full auto mod

[devout atlas]

Meanwhile Columnus/Laspistol psykers are insane rn

[devout atlas]

Yes that is a mod I mention in the mini guide on how I made this turd usable

[idle carbon]

gunpsyker with a handcannon revolver and mk4 sword is an absolute power rush, complainers can suck my dust

[devout atlas]

ye that too

[south glen]

I think the way I was using it would have been better on zealot with shroud field

[devout atlas]

Thing about "melee Vet" is that it's actually just a very good hybrid.

Good melee and good ranged with ammo eco and regenerating grenades

[astral blade]

Imma be real gunkers while good yes still hate it when I see a psyker using a gun

[devout atlas]

Idm

[south glen]

I just wanted to use something other then yelling veteran

[devout atlas]

Have you seen a gun zealot before? Now that's hilarious

[idle carbon]

why? I don't exactly use a lot of ammo lol, and staves aren't really my thing

[devout atlas]

Exec stance Columnus IAG/Agri IAG goes insane ngl

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/guilty-gif-5332537

[devout atlas]

Saw one that would never melee and only use their IAG, they used Shroudfield to escape melee...

They played Zealot like Infil vet

this was on Auric Damn

[astral blade]

Still those just as a vet when I see a psyker using a gun it ticks me off

[devout atlas]

😭

[astral blade]

Don’t ask why

[elder vessel]

What ability would you even use for Gun Zealot

[devout atlas]

bro ran shroudfield and just used it to run away from melee

abandoned team constantly

😭

[south glen]

Well I was using exec stance before shout and I wanted to see if infiltration was good

[devout atlas]

In a fucking Carnival aurdamn game they ended with sub 200 total kills

when the total kills were like 2.2k

💀

[south glen]

Probably relic right

[elder vessel]

This is why we have Scoreboards fellas

[flint garden]

revolver zealot feels so bad compared to revolver vet

[elder vessel]

Maybe chastise because of the armor shenanigans you can do with that

[idle carbon]

even as a vet I'm perfectly fine seeing a gunpsyker, 3 out of my 4 builds have scavenger

[devout atlas]

realistically if you wanted a "good" ranged Zealot you'd run Chastise

[thorn yoke]

no no, you can't have scoreboards. It would encourage toxicity

[idle carbon]

nothing like sweet 100% rending

[south glen]

Is that an actual response

[devout atlas]

I used to have builds without Scavenger but now it's just all Scavenger ngl

[devout atlas]

Tbf they're not wrong. Scoreboards did cause toxicity in VT2. At least now the reign of "green circle chasers" is a lot less frequent.

[idle carbon]

I have one commando vet build without scav, in case I'm lucky enough to be in a group with another vet with scav
iron will and weapons specialist is nice

I have another comamndo build with it

[thorn yoke]

it's a very bare bones version of the official reasoning why they don't have scoreboards in DT

[elder vessel]

mfw the happy chemicals come from the green circles

[devout atlas]

I'm just glad we have scoreboard mods

so I can determine if a build works or not

[idle carbon]

I'm red green coloblind, and even though I used the kill markers mod, I never quite understood the whole green circles thing

was that for special kills?

[south glen]

I’ve learned like 10 new things from being in this discord for 10 minutes wth

[devout atlas]

green circle is what you'd get in VT2 if you were leading in a scoreboard stat at the end of the game. You'd have players that'd intentionally go against their team to get more kills/damage/etc. for purposes of just getting another green circle.

[elder vessel]

happy chemicalsss

[idle carbon]

ah, that'd be why, those circles were always some weird color to my eyes

[thorn yoke]

only 1 new thing a minute? gotta up that pace

[devout atlas]

Lower difficulties were filled with weirdos with 500+ hours that'd ruin games for newbies by running Waystalker and insta killing every enemy for example.

[south glen]

☹️

[devout atlas]

Likewise it was never a good metric of being a good player

Someone like an Ironbreaker or Warrior Priest, support oriented SoTT could be invaluable to your team but not get a single green circle

I think they should've compromised and showed only YOUR stats.

[south glen]

Half of this was not English

[thorn yoke]

yeah, a lot of people have suggested showing "total kills, your kills and breakdown"

[elder vessel]

I played waystalker for like a few minutes to just unlock all the kerillian careers, and I remember being able to top most leaderboards by just pressing F when I saw something even slightly intimidating

[thorn yoke]

but Fatshark has evidently decided they will not do so

So RIP self-improvement outside of using mods

[tardy plaza]

Total Kills does show at the top

[devout atlas]

Honestly I imagine a lot of Fatsharks design team is in conflict over many features and when you have too much conflict on a feature nothing gets done.

[thorn yoke]

indeed, and it doesn't even say how many were specials, etc. which makes total kills somewhat useless

[robust mesa]

whats wrong with flaming the damage build zealot for only doing 80k dmg the whole match

😠

[thorn yoke]

Asking what's wrong is the first part of what's wrong 😛

[robust mesa]

Could you elaborate

?

[south glen]

I think they should have a separate version of the game that’s free where it’s a test server where they can add stuff they’re not 100% pm

On*

[devout atlas]

Like VT2 had lol

[thorn yoke]

asking "why are you doing so little damage" is what Fatshark is trying to avoid

[devout atlas]

ye

[thorn yoke]

mind you, I still ask that like, every other game

[tardy plaza]

https://youtu.be/PTpridy5fMY

[thorn yoke]

but only to myself

[south glen]

I never even played vt2 but that’s funny asf

[devout atlas]

I get it but I think personal stats should be put into the game for vanilla so bad players at the end of a game can go "oh, wow i did shit"

[robust mesa]

tru

https://youtu.be/QAp8JaM98YQ

[thorn yoke]

I am exhausted every time I turn around and watch 3 people flailing away buried under poxwalkers doing nothing

[devout atlas]

Way too many mfs playing insanely bad playstyles and I just know they're not running scoreboard

some people will act like they're the commander of the regiment with 10% of the total damage

[south glen]

Maybe do scoreboards but only you can see yours

[devout atlas]

pissing their pants when they get downed for the 14th time

some people gotta be humbled

yanno?

[south glen]

Yeah true

[devout atlas]

add Microsoft Clippy to the game that shit talks you

"You should waste less ammo on poxwalkers you fucking loser!"

https://tenor.com/view/clippy-microsoft-office-word-publisher-gif-5630386

[robust mesa]

Now now

It is satisfying to mow them down with an auto

[devout atlas]

I quit a maelstrom 3 mins in last night cause the Zealot was out of ammo on random stray dregs on their boltgun

😭

ppl need humbling ong

[south glen]

Whenever I first started to actually like it I went out of the way to look up a beginner guide because I didn’t wanna be that guy

[wanton dawn]

you don't need a beginner guide to look at your mate ammo state though

[south glen]

I didn’t mean that specifically I meant that teammate that’s clueless

[fathom grail]

Natty or steroids?

[wanton dawn]

One thing I still dont understand is how it is possible to get the aggro on the 2 twins and the elite wave while 4 ppl are alive

[robust mesa]

roids ofc

[fathom grail]

Imagine not being natty like ogryn smh

[robust mesa]

"natty"

"ogryn"

[fathom grail]

[south glen]

Chadryn

[fathom grail]

Last time big e steroid an ogryn, they couldn’t control him

[south glen]

I might switch to ogryn fuck vet

[fathom grail]

Ogryn is king

[grizzled pebble]

It's me I am using stealth.

[wanton dawn]

Liar, you would have done boss damage

[grizzled pebble]

Does krak grenade sucks against the twins or just me?

[wanton dawn]

it sucks

[midnight mortar]

For Rinda, if you shoot her shield with a ranged weapon she will swap aggro to you.

[wanton dawn]

Man, I was half-joking though

[midnight mortar]

The plasma twin is semi-random I think, though if you're close enough to him and keep hitting his shield he will swap to you.

[midnight mortar]

They very much suck.

Frags are the only nades worth bringing there.

[grizzled pebble]

Yeah seems like it. More cc with frag.

[wanton dawn]

I don't mind having aggro. I do mind bosses regenrating their shield 3 times on p1

And to be honest, I don't have the best tanking build

[midnight mortar]

That's just a sign that the squad doesn't have enough DPS.

Groups that actually stand a chance of clearing will deal enough DPS within the first shields down phase to transition to tox gas.

[wanton dawn]

Then again, I don't think vet is a good tank prospect

I know i know

[south glen]

Is there a place I can look at different builds?

[midnight mortar]

There is a thread in this channel.

[south glen]

Thank ya

[idle carbon]

has anyone figured out the minimum number of cycles you'd need to down one of the twins?

the damage cap for a phase, I suppose

[grizzled pebble]

Stealth loner zealot in my team with this knife.

Based lvl 95 zealot.

[muted knot]

Bang bang

[midnight mortar]

If I recall it was 25%.

At roughly a minute per phase.

At optimal damage, given that 4 gunlugger Ogryn 4:37 hardmode run.

[placid portal]

• stamina is kinda based

[astral blade]

think imma step away from playing as vet and main zealot for a while

[placid portal]

Why not

You'll be back

[digital sinew]

What are the differences in chainswords?

[delicate estuary]

It's almost as if zealot is a class that gives you a lot more freedom and identity than vet

[vernal harbor]

we have freedom

we got the gas mask krieg guys with the bayonets

we got the Armageddon gas mask guys

and we got the cadians

thats a lot of variety

[terse idol]

No Kasrkin

😭

[midnight mortar]

We've got Kasrkin at home.

[muted knot]

Joooo

This should be pretty damn good right ?

Or is the finesse damage too low ?

[midnight mortar]

I weep for that finesse stat.

On power swords the dump stat is cleave targets.

You want finesse for that attack speed, if not the crit/weakspot damage.

[frank ether]

hm done

[vernal harbor]

why your thing look like that is it a mod or

[frank ether]

2 vet 1 ogy 1 zealot was the comp

[muted knot]

It's a plugin called armory exchange so I can check the store on my phone

Brunt and melk

So don't buy ?

[junior grail]

You can extract Brutal Momentum if you havent yet

[midnight mortar]

You could buy it for the tier 4 BM if you don't have it already to earn it.

[muted knot]

Or is power cycler 3 worth the buy ?

I don't have either

What's more important?

[terse idol]

need fineese

For fiineese weapons

Oh god

[terse idol]

I mean it's

If you don't have it you probably should get it anyways

imo

Do you have Bm4?

[junior grail]

Yea get it

[muted knot]

Neither

[terse idol]

Because iirc, you also need BM4

[midnight mortar]

Tier 4s are rarer.

[muted knot]

I have basically nothing for PS

[midnight mortar]

I'd extract BM first.

[muted knot]

I figure that's what I want on all PS ?

BM

[midnight mortar]

You can only extract one blessing.

So the tier 4 one takes priority.

[muted knot]

Yeah I know that's why I'm asking

Alright

[terse idol]

Yeah, take bm4

[muted knot]

Thank you

[frank ether]

funny thing about powersword is that

at this point on melee veteran

if you have bm IV

your unenergized is no longer shite

[midnight mortar]

You hit the cap?

Ah

Yeah that's true.

[frank ether]

as in you have so much damage steroids

that you just brute force it to work

even without hitting the energize

[midnight mortar]

But even so, I don't think the panic swings between energizes would be worth trying to aim for a high cleave targets stat.

[frank ether]

Its just nice when you have to do like a 180 swing

or feel lazy

[muted knot]

Why is there atleast one tactical axe in every melks requisitorium

[frank ether]

oh yea definitely

finesse is not a dump stat

imo

its a pretty strong stat

[midnight mortar]

I have been pleasantly surprised when I rapidly swing at point blank and the poxwalkers actually die in a headshot.

[frank ether]

yea Ikr I'm just mentally expecting it to take like 4-5 swings

[junior grail]

Tactically placed for rng purposes

[frank ether]

and be really happy when they die with one

[midnight mortar]

It's like "oh... I can stop swinging and energize. Huh."

As I had already queued another chained hit out of habit.

[frank ether]

also I might be like mentally challenged or something Idk

I did try sunder a lot in hm

and the one run where I swap to BM

I got it

probably down to luck more than anything but funny

[midnight mortar]

Maybe. It'd depend on how the fight went down.

[frank ether]

we had a funny team comp

[midnight mortar]

I'd say for hardmode Twins though, more killing power would be a point in your favor.

[frank ether]

yeah, definitely

we won the moment we went with aggressive builds

[midnight mortar]

Not really a fight where you can afford to just keep staggering opponents hoping someone else across the room will kill them every time.

[frank ether]

so 2 voc vets, psword-ciag for me, pickaxe shovel for other, glugger ogryn and the last was a matyrdom zealot who entered the elevator with like %10 hp left

[midnight mortar]

Not too weird on paper.

Other than the martyr zealot.

But those builds always confuse me when I see them enter for hardmode.

[frank ether]

vet/psyker stereotypically the weak link purely due to being squishy

and most players not handling that well

they're not weak by any means

[near sable]

the psyker with 60% blockcost:

[midnight mortar]

No I get it. I got my hard mode clear with VoC vet too.

[frank ether]

It was funny but as long as ppl carry their weight you know

[midnight mortar]

Of course. My clear had a weirdo relic zealot that actually somehow only used it at key moments to buy time,

Despite only having a 55k total damage dealt, he didn't feel like dead weight at all.

Maybe it was all key eviscerator strikes.

[frank ether]

relic actually not a bad idea

I notice in this fight

toughness is sorely needed

[midnight mortar]

The majority of relic zealots I ran with were all utterly useless.

[frank ether]

timing is key

[midnight mortar]

They didn't manage it well at all and their downtime made DPS non-existent.

[frank ether]

with both shout and relic

[marble hare]

Did they fix vets yet? Or are they still the lowest performing class?

[terse idol]

Huh

[wanton dawn]

Psyker does struggle a fair bit. Even when winning i was not impressed by their perf. Bubble being the most visible advantage

[terse idol]

[delicate moat]

[frank ether]

still the only class that requires you to have basic fps knowledge

[terse idol]

I don't think we were underperforming since we got keystones

[midnight mortar]

Vets are quite good and have been alright for some time now. There are issues with the value of the marksman keystone skill, but overall Vets are ok.

[terse idol]

Yeah

Marksmen is...

Might need a rework

[frank ether]

melee vet pretty good rn

[terse idol]

It just doesn't have the same punch as Focus target, or Weapon spec

[delicate moat]

what if marksman keystone reworked to kiss keystone

[frank ether]

its literally just sharpshooter vet that needs redesign

[midnight mortar]

Yeah I had a couple bubble psykers that placed it well, but even then it was tough with how squishy they were.

[wanton dawn]

For twins, 1 vet brings a lot, but there is diminishing return

[frank ether]

marksman keystone missed the mark

[near sable]

marksman is for my revolver and camo is for pretending to have stiff legs from riding my grox across the toxplains

[frank ether]

see the thing is

[terse idol]

I would recommend, Weapon spec revolver

[frank ether]

focus mark or weapon spec

is much much better

for revolver

so much better its not even funny

[near sable]

yeah but big number

[terse idol]

Exec stance + Focus target is just too low ammo

[wanton dawn]

The easiest twins setup is def gunlugger

[terse idol]

You get big number with Weapon spec

10 stacks of range

[frank ether]

glugger with a vet to feed it ammo and grenades

[terse idol]

10 Stacks of Ranged Weapon spec, and headshot a crusher

[frank ether]

also focus mark in raw damage

I'm pretty sure you're beating marksman keystone

your %10 rending is for all weapons unlike marksman

[near sable]

[frank ether]

you also uhm... generate toughness, damage and stamina for your team

[terse idol]

Is that toughness on Focus target even worth it?

[frank ether]

which gives big chad energy instead of virgin 240mlgsniper energy

[frank ether]

I think considering its team wide yes

[wanton dawn]

I am sure focus mark vet beats marksman vet in overall dmg if you factor team dps increase

[frank ether]

also stamina works for deadshot

on a revolver that stamina is enough to sustain it

[terse idol]

Ah, I love 32% Damage increase on 4 people

😌

[wanton dawn]

Also focus mark is not ranged locked

[terse idol]

vs 1 target

[frank ether]

yea thats the big thing people forget

your middle build is competent in both weapons, has easy access to grenade talents

you're still good when you swap to melee

[midnight mortar]

It was really strange. My squad's hardmode clear was 2 Ogryns with taunt, one with a shield/kickback and another with a gorgon stubber. Me with VoC, rashad, and Ciag 5. And then that relic zealot with a flamer which he never used and an eviscerator. The ogryns had 158k and 119k damage dealt. I had 112k. The zealot despite having 55k felt like he maintained presence with us the entire time. Was always on the shield with his eviscerator whenever it was up. Timed his relic pretty much perfectly. It was a major departure from the performance of every other relic zealot I queued with.

[frank ether]

often times you can also reach both desperado and precision strikes aswell

[wanton dawn]

Frankly i dont see how marksman focus could be more useful than focus mark vet. Unless you already have another mark vet

[terse idol]

Even then

I found that if you have the toughness restore, both of you gain the stacks if you focus the same target

Little wacky

[wanton dawn]

Rofl

[frank ether]

thats such a hilarious comp I'm amazed that it worked lmao

[midnight mortar]

I was sure that was not going to be the one.

It looked scuffed.

[wanton dawn]

Ogryn is really strong

[midnight mortar]

But it played so smoothly I couldn't believe it.

[frank ether]

ogryn is like a glue that holds the whole thing together

[midnight mortar]

For a bit I thought maybe spawns had broken.

[frank ether]

I'm just somewhat convinced you can't go wrong with ogy

[midnight mortar]

But then I looked and they were all on the taunt shieldgryn.

[frank ether]

low skill floor and still really strong

[terse idol]

Hmm

[frank ether]

shield is also uhh...

its a suprisingly good weapon

[terse idol]

After trying Ogr again like god damn

[frank ether]

have you seen its heavies?

[terse idol]

I feel sooo weak vs shooters

[wanton dawn]

If the ogryns are just a bit proactive they will trivialize the fight

[midnight mortar]

Yeah the heavies are disgusting.

[frank ether]

shield does stupid fuckloads of damage for a... shield

like how even

[terse idol]

oh vs twins

[midnight mortar]

It's a slab of metal.

Thing hurts.

[frank ether]

I watched my friend kill like 28 shotgunners by bashing them with a shield once

back to back

[midnight mortar]

Yep.

Guy was staggering crushers left and right for free.

While being swarmed.

[frank ether]

the funny part is

no one is mad about ogryns being busted

I'm part of that stereotype

I hated OP assail

didnt even care about op kickback

[grizzled pebble]

Nooo not my assail

[midnight mortar]

I mean, I am a tad annoyed that they're a better gunner than me with less investment.

[grizzled pebble]

Handcannon 2s assail

[wanton dawn]

They are not busted though. It is strong cuz boss shield is impossible to miss

[midnight mortar]

But it wasn't as overt as assail's performance.

[near sable]

evil assail

warp ice is eresy

[wanton dawn]

Psyker is weakish cuz they lack pure single target dps

[frank ether]

well its still not as ridicilous as p13 assail

[versed merlin]

cat posting has been enabled and i have been summoned

https://tenor.com/view/catwalk-gif-25724909

[frank ether]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/369836244064272386/1108768132383920138/AAAAAA.gif

[versed merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-jumping-cat-excited-excited-dance-gif-19354605

[wanton dawn]

Also i have not seen many columnus psyker on twins

[near sable]

post cats mods are heretics

[zealous wyvern]

i cannot absolutely tell if that is the cat wanting to take a bite or making the puking face

[frank ether]

lmao

[zealous wyvern]

puking cats look like that too

[versed merlin]

lol i can see it too now

[frank ether]

cats are goobers

[rose wedge]

How do I not fuck this up

Game just dropped it for me after a match and I thought hey

might as well try to use it

[zealous wyvern]

stop interrupting the cat topic with 40k

[near sable]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-cat-jinx-the-cat-jinx-cat-this-is-a-man-gif-13004242502715020955

[frank ether]

https://tenor.com/view/get-jiggy-with-it-jolly-cat-jiggy-cat-jiggy-get-jolly-with-it-gif-10530927213104800320

[versed merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-furry-gif-14819247

[versed merlin]

i dont think you can save this

[zealous wyvern]

id replace block and allornothing

[near sable]

https://tenor.com/view/egg-gif-26080315

[zealous wyvern]

its not very good though

[rose wedge]

oh well, baby's first sapper shovel

[zealous wyvern]

carapace or maniac as blockeff

[frank ether]

https://tenor.com/view/kneading-cat-post-meme-fast-gif-26392346

[near sable]

https://tenor.com/view/sog-cat-soggy-cat-sogged-cat-get-sogged-get-real-gif-26481153

[zealous wyvern]

and idk something for allornothing

[muted knot]

Jinx appreciation response

[zealous wyvern]

i surprisingly do not know much about shovels

[near sable]

still know nothing about the new shovel marks

we love jinx

[zealous wyvern]

yes

[muted knot]

We do

[versed merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-money-gif-23820456

[frank ether]

now that I got the hm clear this gives me diplomatic immunity to be a raging elitist

[terse idol]

Beans

[muted knot]

Naturally

[frank ether]

thats a nice bean

[versed merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/catsniff-catsmell-smell-cat-gif-25675708

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-vegetables-gif-15621481

[zealous wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-silly-cat-hilarious-cat-falling-confused-cat-gif-14133355

i do my part

[frank ether]

https://tenor.com/view/consume-cardboard-box-cat-gif-25431281

[zealous wyvern]

how it feels killing a boss with a recon

[zealous wyvern]

mine is more of an ogryn rock approach

https://tenor.com/view/fishing-facts-cat-kiss-stuttering-gif-24168346

[zealous wyvern]

scratch the fishing facts and replace with krieg lore

[versed merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bingus-gif-21969691

[zealous wyvern]

rejects when finally getting their last redacted penance

[versed merlin]

lmao

those captions are so on point

[zealous wyvern]

thank you

[slim rivet]

Wait this is real? How to get?

[muted knot]

It's modded

[slim rivet]

Old tree tho

[zealous wyvern]

it is a skin

[muted knot]

It's a mark 4 lasgun I believe

[zealous wyvern]

of a normal las

[slim rivet]

Ohhh

[muted knot]

He modded the model

[slim rivet]

I've been duped

[muted knot]

And called it a hellgun cause it's practically that with full automod

[near sable]

mg4s bonus damage v. maniacs

is like 200% w 25%

[slim rivet]

Welp still waiting for Grenadier skin kekw unless it was released and i missed it

[trim hemlock]

Which one is that?

[muted knot]

Is this a statspread I want for PS ?

Full finesse almost full damage

[astral blade]

Gotta say while im not use to playing as a zealot it ain’t so bad

[sharp ember]

good stat array, pray to hadron for upgrades being good

[muted knot]

Well we always do that don't we

[trim hemlock]

Yeah, it’s good, go for it

Bad perk, but, not a brick yet

[muted knot]

yet

[zealous wyvern]

grenadiers are shocktroopers

just some regiments call them grenadier

the giveaways are their heavy armour and weapons

[trim hemlock]

That doesn’t ring a bell to me - I was wondering which skin they had in mind, the Cadian green heavy flak armour?

[slim rivet]

And the skull mask

[zealous wyvern]

oh so krieg?

[fickle star]

cheers Hadron!

[slim rivet]

Yea

[muted knot]

Sick

[zealous wyvern]

in kriegs case indeed a skullmask on the gasmask

[slim rivet]

This

[zealous wyvern]

like zealots

but with a proper uniform

[slim rivet]

Vets being more zealous than zealots

[zealous wyvern]

zealots can be ex vets

or so to speak

just vets

anyone can be a zealot

there is a literal zealot in the krieg unit of octarius

with book and charms. i love him

[slim rivet]

Would be funny and sad if fatshark adds a new difficulty being 'Lamenters' difficulty

[zealous wyvern]

Lamentation

t6

i would be into it

although i stay away from amt5 now because i do not want to ruin pubs

i am bad

[frank ether]

they did krieg fans do dirty lmao

[zealous wyvern]

i enjoy the game no matter how horribly i get massacred but i feel guilty when not doing well

[zealous wyvern]

i am glad vet is not this

[frank ether]

the set we got is nowhere near close that quality

[zealous wyvern]

default trooper is my favourite

[sonic shore]

Emperors blessing

[zealous wyvern]

but yes the quality is bad on the skin we have

[frank ether]

I dont mind the default trooper look they just executed it poorly

[zealous wyvern]

just saying i would not want it to be a grenadier

[frank ether]

also for the extra price they charged

I would want either better quality

or extra pieces

they had the audacity to separate the good looking helmet and sell it for extra

[zealous wyvern]

that was because of the coat being longer than torso

this creates a huge difficulty for 3dmodeling

or rather animation

capes are easy because they just float behind you

[slim rivet]

I do know one has the krieg mask without the tube to the respirator which i am actually looking for

[zealous wyvern]

coats are very tricky

[zealous wyvern]

death head mk3a

it is the extra purchase

[slim rivet]

Oof

[zealous wyvern]

the default helmet looks so bad

nothing like krieg

its a british gas mask with weird white colour

[frank ether]

just milking krieg fans at this point

[zealous wyvern]

no hose

[frank ether]

blatantly

[zealous wyvern]

yes

but they milk everyone

not just krieg

[frank ether]

how much does it cost to get all the krieg stuff with the helmet included

[zealous wyvern]

i think 13€

[placid portal]

the better helmet or the bundle one

[zealous wyvern]

both

[placid portal]

ah

[frank ether]

all the krieg stuff

[zealous wyvern]

honestly its not that bad

[placid portal]

4.3k Aquillas

🤔

[zealous wyvern]

if you consider the price for

no

what

just for vet?

[frank ether]

isnt it like 2900 aquillas for just one set

[placid portal]

The helmet is like 1.4k for the better one

[frank ether]

and then whatever the helmet costs

[zealous wyvern]

i think its 2700 for bundle and 1.4ish for extra

[frank ether]

so 4.300 aquillas

[zealous wyvern]

so 4100 huh

[frank ether]

how many murrican mullas does that make

or euros

[zealous wyvern]

or that

idk like 20

[frank ether]

I dont compute fatshark monopoly money

[placid portal]

same

[slim rivet]

Yea kinda reminds me of that one yt fan krieg short

[zealous wyvern]

i just know that buying all the bundles cost me about 70

[frank ether]

so 20'ish bucks for a cosmetic set

on a single class

[zealous wyvern]

with extra

yes

[frank ether]

basically if you play 4 classes

[slim rivet]

Highest on my end is about 20ish usd

[frank ether]

you pay like... multiple AAA games worth of money

[zealous wyvern]

ye

[placid portal]

Y'know I gotta drip up my boi ogryn

[frank ether]

to get drip for all 4 classes

[devout atlas]

Wym

[zealous wyvern]

but

[placid portal]

[zealous wyvern]

hold on

but

ALL skins are this scummy

[placid portal]

Sorry Punies but the Ogryns get the better cosmetics

[zealous wyvern]

not just krieg

[frank ether]

Its fine

[placid portal]

yep

[slim rivet]

My bad mistook it

[zealous wyvern]

they constantly release like extra stuff thats clearly better quality afterwards for 5€ a piece etc

[devout atlas]

lol had me rlly confused

[frank ether]

I'll get back at fatshark by not buying anything and costing them server money

too bad for each person with my mentality

[slim rivet]

Yea my bad

[frank ether]

there are like 10 krieg fans

so I am outnumbered

[zealous wyvern]

stop pretending its the krieg fans

[frank ether]

fatshark will win this

[zealous wyvern]

90% of purchases are not krieg

they will win

and make money indeed

[slim rivet]

Almost got the previous armageddon skin but the helm held me off

[frank ether]

sad part is

the money goes to

shareholders and stuff

[zealous wyvern]

the scum

yes

[frank ether]

I dont think the devs and artist give a crap

how well it sells

as long as game stays afloat and they get paid

[zealous wyvern]

capitalism is a scourge

[frank ether]

yea

[zealous wyvern]

one day there will be our very own colonel to cleanse the hive

[devout atlas]

erm . zealot confirmed capitalism ?

🤓

[zealous wyvern]

nuke this world

[slim rivet]

And GW executing fan works is scummy at best

[zealous wyvern]

what is a rossweisse

[haughty pond]

im bob ross

[frank ether]

they're like british nintendo at this point

[haughty pond]

https://tenor.com/view/paint-painting-lets-paint-few-happy-trees-bob-ross-gif-11656328

[zealous wyvern]

what is weisse

[zealous wyvern]

yes

[haughty pond]

my skin colour

[zealous wyvern]

yes

(no) but yes

we do

[zealous wyvern]

you misspelled it i think

[haughty pond]

colour in uk

[zealous wyvern]

if that is meant to be german its weiss

[haughty pond]

color in usa

[zealous wyvern]

no

that has nothing to do with this

[slim rivet]

Fatshark releasing a Sly Marbo skin

[zealous wyvern]

unless you mean yourself, not the colour

[haughty pond]

nah everything is right

[zealous wyvern]

like the noun "a white woman"

would be weisse

[haughty pond]

ross for my second name

[slim rivet]

Isnt that name a Valkyrie?

[haughty pond]

weiss for white

and E

[zealous wyvern]

then why e