veteran-class

[limber egret]

like just pure damage to killing things

[bleak tangle]

bro doing laps both physical and skill rotation

[slow garden]

The 2 blessings you have on the other plasgun are the best in slots almost

[limber egret]

what i did was talents and glorhunter and iron will

[slow garden]

Just one is t3 but thats fine

[limber egret]

and one other talent

basically i take next to no toughness damage

when near teammates

it was hilariously tanky

[umbral scaffold]

I don't know if that is an insult or what but thanks

But I'm just saying I'm fast as fuck boy

[bleak tangle]

admiration

it seem like fun thing to do

[umbral scaffold]

It's not just fun but it's helpful

[bleak tangle]

that'd be bonus I welcome

[umbral scaffold]

I mean see there's a hoard right and we have a plague ogryn and we're dealing with that but we have some Trappers and some talks flamers coming around and the zealots down I can go into stealth and just go grab the zealot or murder the flamer or trapper and then go grab the zealot vice versa

[limber egret]

would carapace armoured enemies be fine as well?

as a perk?

[slow garden]

Maniacs are the run killers usually

Carapace is threatening but slow

Just the ogryn really

[bleak tangle]

now what to do with 71 knives I have left in my inventory

[limber egret]

oh well here

[umbral scaffold]

I would rather have flak and maniac over carapace any day

[slow garden]

Sick

[limber egret]

so what do you think of this plasma gun?

[slow garden]

That's just shy of a god roll, very good plasgun

[limber egret]

what would be a god roll?

[slow garden]

Unyielding would ideally be Flak Damage %, and Blaze Away 3 would be Blaze Away 4.

[limber egret]

like the absolute best?

[slow garden]

25% Maniac, 25% Flak, Gets Hot! level 4, Blaze Away level 4.

Your plasgun is very good though

[limber egret]

unyielding counts for bosses too right?

[slow garden]

Yep

[brisk oxide]

i've come to this conclusion also

what even is carapace? crushers and the mauler helmet?

not much

[slow garden]

Crushers entire

Mauler helmet

[limber egret]

oh well i did like having unyielding and since it was multiple enemies as well i figured it would be great

[wanton dawn]

Plasma god roll ? Probably ammo as dump stats, locked blaze away 3, locked get hots 4

[umbral scaffold]

I mean yea

[limber egret]

but apperenty this game has its enemies having multiple armor types

[wanton dawn]

Perks you would have maniac+flak as default, unyielding and carapace as tech

unyielding is good for boss maelstrom

[slow garden]

Mauler helmet is carapace, for example, chest is flak, his legs are unarmoured.

Most units are not like that though.

[low oar]

Maulers skipped leg day

[slow garden]

And in my experience its not the boss that kills my runs usually

Its the elites

Specialists

[umbral scaffold]

I think this is the closest I have to a god roll

[low oar]

A lot of units have locational armour actually

[wanton dawn]

For boss maelstrom you want to have anti-boss option, that's all

[slow garden]

Aka krak grenades

[tiny summit]

Maulers still need to be louder. I need to hear a chainsaw constantly revving or announcement revs as they enter a certain radius

[limber egret]

heres my build for the plasma gun as well

i built for a lot of weakspot damage as well

to increase damage as much as possible

[umbral scaffold]

Man I pretty much have every penance except on OverWatch

[celest vine]

Glitch it

[limber egret]

like i pretty much always aim for heads or the weakspot of the enemies

[umbral scaffold]

What

[celest vine]

Jump off the map then dont get rescued until the end of the map

[umbral scaffold]

Oh

Shit

[celest vine]

These terrible penances deserve to be glitched this way

[umbral scaffold]

Ok

[slow garden]

You can check out some plasgun talent builds online

[serene sage]

would that work?

[slow garden]

Personally I don't run weakspot damage on it, because it staggers so hard

[umbral scaffold]

Like just sit the entire round out to the end

[slow garden]

And its hipfire, so

Hitting weakspot consistently is hard

Some people are cracked and can do it, but not me

I suggest taking the talent that gives you 25% damage on weapon swap

Grenade bonuses

Grenade regen

20% revive speed perk

[limber egret]

i guess im cracked since i am doing that often

[slow garden]

And uh...

[limber egret]

like hitting weakspot

[slow garden]

Use your krak grenades to kill bosses or stagger groups of heavy

Take the 20% monster / ogryn damage perk, too

I can hit like...

30-40% of my shots as weakspot hits

But the others are all bodyshot

(Or a miss)

[wanton dawn]

Weakspot damage allows to save shot on some circumstance. Consistency is good but you don't have to hit reliably to get value out of it

Plasma is a BP weapon before being a DPS weapon

[slow garden]

^

[umbral scaffold]

What do you think fellas

[wanton dawn]

Also it is on the way of the 15% elite damage

[tiny summit]

I personally rarely use exe and plasma together. Very fun to do, but shout just provides for the weakness of close and able to keep shooting priorities targets

[limber egret]

BP?

[wanton dawn]

Breakpoint

[slow garden]

BreakPoint

TLDR: You shoot a guy one time and he is dead.

[wanton dawn]

Plasma can reach OS on most enemies with specific point investment

[serene sage]

does BP mean breakpoint?

[slow garden]

Yes

[limber egret]

oh ok

[wanton dawn]

The difference between 1 shot and 2 shot is way more important than 10 shot vs 11 shot obviously

[serene sage]

I think breakpoint should be abbreviated as BP

[limber egret]

also is overcharging plasma worth it?

[wanton dawn]

No

[slow garden]

Very rarely

[serene sage]

rarely

[slow garden]

But not typically no

Only overcharge plasma if there is a conga line of enemy specials in a hallway

It will pierce ALL of them

[wanton dawn]

You use overcharge for some specific tech. Otherwise you can get away with only using primary

[bleak tangle]

I think it's good, weakspot > maniac/flak and Speedload to DS and you're golden in brrrrttt championship

[wanton dawn]

Overcharge does not improve enemies pen

[slow garden]

Uh

[serene sage]

wait does't it go through walls better?

[wanton dawn]

Some ppl say it improve wall penetration

[slow garden]

Got a source on that? I main plasgun and I could swear it does

[wanton dawn]

Not the same things

[civic knot]

lol i got the zealot god roll

[wanton dawn]

The source is me. I tested it on mauler conga line

You get 6 maulers with both charged and uncharged

[slow garden]

Hmm

[wanton dawn]

I should have a video somewhere

Or ill make one

2s

[civic knot]

Do I change any blessing?

[slow garden]

I will have a look at it, thank you!

[slow garden]

I admit I'm surprised, maybe I just have the habit of charging when I see groups

And there's no real diff in pen

[limber egret]

tho something else as well

[umbral scaffold]

Yep it's all good I just need to know which perks to put on it because all of that is base

[limber egret]

so i have seen supposely people talking about some more patterns of weapons

and i saw mentions of a plasma gun variant thats a heavy pattern for more damage

i was thinking of using that when ever its added

as the main plasma gun

[slow garden]

Oh, thats just a rumor

I think

[crude ermine]

That'd be a weird thing to add no?

[fallow escarp]

No

[slow garden]

There's no confirmation a heavy plasgun is coming to darktide as far as I know

[bleak tangle]

if 509 is enough, I'd like to pull backstab in case I'm in funny mood of sneaky zealot but like.... how much I shot myself in the foot in that case...

[frank ether]

weapon rating is rather meaningless

don't fixate on it too much

[safe dawn]

distribution of stats > base stats > total stats

[frank ether]

also focus on rolls with a little less mobility and higher first target

[bleak bolt]

i charge plasma to guarantee one shots on maulers/reapers

[frank ether]

you dont need 80 mobility as much as you need 80 first target

[bleak tangle]

I know, I just use it to differentiate (is that a word?) between 2 knives

[frank ether]

hmm

I'll be honest

I'm still trying to understand

the point of new knife

It seems like a slower killing variant with a little more cleave in return?

so I just slapped some power blessings on mine and threw infested in there to see if it will cleave

[pulsar drift]

Power sword rampage vs brutal momentum which one is good for the twin?

[frank ether]

again my knife is a lot worse than yours

[bleak tangle]

pretty much. from my feeling

[frank ether]

like look at this, its horrible

still works good enough

[bleak tangle]

new knife slash 2-3 head per light

[frank ether]

what I noticed is even though your initial heavy is cleave

if you do a special attack your follow-up is a single target heavy

[pulsar drift]

which one to swap out

[slow garden]

What a beautiful Psword

Just needs power cycler 4

[pulsar drift]

Yea i am thinking between rampage and BM

[slow garden]

Gimme

[tiny summit]

Yea PC4 and BM

[frank ether]

anyways I can't guarentee that its the best way to play it

but weakspot power blessings + precision strikes

and the +1 bleed talent (serrated blade) to enable mercy killer

this is how I've been using it

[tiny summit]

My friend said "fuck you" when I sent them this.

[pulsar drift]

Arlight

got it

[pulsar drift]

Fuck you, youre welcome

[wanton dawn]

I stand corrected, I am testing relevant target though

[slow garden]

Sunder is bad, but replace the melee weak spot damage with ragers and thats a nearly perfect psword

I WAS RIGHT?

[pulsar drift]

Sunder tbh is not bad

[slow garden]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-right-gif-25567359

[tiny summit]

Yea. That's what I plan to do.

[pulsar drift]

it is acturally rly smooooth

tho dmg is kinda low

[frank ether]

I think brutal momentum is too good to pass on ps

[pulsar drift]

but very smoooth

[frank ether]

like I'm pretty sure

as long as you have bm

you could even make it work without power cycler

[tiny summit]

It's just wow. Giving me 2 lvl blessings I don't have yet?

[frank ether]

its that good

I dont recommend you do that ofc

[pulsar drift]

wat about this autogun

I am thinking flak or unyielding

[frank ether]

but I have a suspicion I could slap bromentum rampage and spam regular heavies with mk3

[pulsar drift]

cuz i m using this for the twin

[frank ether]

It would probably still cleave ok

[umbral scaffold]

Flak 190%

[tiny summit]

W/o PC4, PS is nice but at that point I'd rather have any decent combat axe with any lvl BM

[pulsar drift]

OKi

got it

[wanton dawn]

charged plasma seems to be double cleave

[frank ether]

weakspot damage deeply unfortunate but otherwise good

[slow garden]

Nice

[frank ether]

Its not the end of the world tbh

like you can use it, it will be fine

mine has unyielding, I dont care

[serene sage]

what if it is?

[slow garden]

[frank ether]

https://tenor.com/view/katze-cat-hasenohren-bunny-ears-gif-24097339

[slow garden]

Feels good, I hope the info helps your runs!

[wanton dawn]

Though cleave improvement is useless agasint crusher group

[slow garden]

Got it, so that's where it's pretty nuetral

[slow garden]

Try hitting their head

I think it cleaves through three if you hit weakspot

But that might be jumbled memories of auric damnation speaking in my head

You do so many you lose some marbles, que sera sera

[slow garden]

Ohh, I bet what might've mucked my brain is a crit.

[pulsar drift]

Oki

[slow garden]

Crit incleases cleave right?

[thorny burrow]

The Prestiged Kriegsman Trader

[umbral scaffold]

Zaaaamn

[crude ermine]

Are the sets out or nay?

[wanton dawn]

Does not seems like it

[thorny burrow]

They are

[crude ermine]

Nice

[slow garden]

Gotcha!

Thanks for running the tests my man

My brain fog is cleared, we are now wiser plasgun lads.

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-finished-with-you-space-marine-captain-titus-ultramarines-plasma-pistol-gif-25478276

[wanton dawn]

In any case, you should still use base shot in most circumstance cuz cleaving 6 maulers is already a lot

[merry oak]

Any new cosmetics?

[terse idol]

What's the shop look like

[slow garden]

Yooooooooooooo Nice!

[umbral scaffold]

Nope

[wanton dawn]

Same ammo consumption, same heat, similar time

[slow garden]

Plasgun cleave superior

[merry oak]

Damn

[jade notch]

And it is done, after half a dozen runs and a couple of disconnections mid-mission:

[slow garden]

Hmm interesting

[terse idol]

Where do you even find the secret hard mode

[copper pine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1153279327513886770/1184896130346123294/image.png?ex=658da383&is=657b2e83&hm=43ebb9ab293f85a61baeaad5f88a0ae15f42000928bc36c743acaaa31b66c465&

[wanton dawn]

Well, primary fire plasma has better synergy with blessings

[terse idol]

I found like one of the bells, gotta guide this

[quasi socket]

everything rogue trader leaked earlier this week is also posted in launcher

[terse idol]

Pretty sweet

[slow garden]

True

More crit potential as well

So the charge up is regardless rather niche

[terse idol]

Kinda hoped for more guardsmen garb but these are cool

[wanton dawn]

Also, charged shot usually overkill and when it does not, then 3 shot already do the job

[merry oak]

Lol that's Argenta's bolter

[wanton dawn]

and sometimes you can even get 2 shot

so you save the ammo

[jade notch]

Ring 7 Bells (preferrably on a lower Difficulty) which unlocks Hard Mode for that Run, finish said Run, all Runs after that have the Teleporter Shrine at the start of the Mission:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2995700310

[vital bobcat]

any one know what the karnak twins enemy type is? for their body/back mostly

i thought it was flak but ive heard unarmored as well

[copper pine]

Cara head flak body

[umbral scaffold]

Oh right yea sure for the money shop

[brisk oxide]

so apparently it changes based on hard mode or not

[hallow moat]

That looks like the witch hunter hat from VT2

[brisk oxide]

iirc they're unarmored everywhere but the head on hard mode, and have carapace on the head

[vital bobcat]

thats interesting that it changes to unarmored for hard mode

[quasi socket]

what perks we want on plasma? flak/maniac like 95% of guns?

[flat wasp]

flak, unyielding

[wanton dawn]

you can justify unyielding. It give you OS potential on reaper and bulwark and it is good for monstro maelstrom

same with carapace on crusher, a bit more niche though

[quasi socket]

im a reg damnation player, still getting used to the gun itself

[slow garden]

I say flak/maniac

Use your krak nades for monsters

[bleak tangle]

after some run with knife+stealth skill i have found my new dopamine drip

[quasi socket]

it had a strong base, but hadron has been...unkind

[wanton dawn]

I don't run kraks with plasma anymore

[slow garden]

Unfortunate my friend

[bleak tangle]

use skill to get behind gunline and mow 6 gunner down is chefkiss

[umbral scaffold]

Why not?

[wanton dawn]

because frags is better in almost all scenarios

[slow garden]

I still run kraks with plasma, I find frags lacking

[teal abyss]

Fuck a Bolter skin finally? Nice

[slow garden]

But I run a powersword that tears through maniacs and hordes in melee, so

[wanton dawn]

also kraks is good against target that plasma can already kill. As I said earlier, the only things where kraks is way better than frags on plasma build is BoN

[languid escarp]

BoN?

[quasi socket]

no good ps yet, so im running this still

[slow garden]

Krak has saved tons of runs for me, can't imagine being without them at this point

[wanton dawn]

Beast of nurgle. The slug

[languid escarp]

oh

yeah

[wanton dawn]

and that's because kraks is one of the few reliable stun that we get on BoN. VoC is not reliable on it

[slow garden]

Makes Mauler, Ogryn, and Boss problems go away and leave my knife zealot alone

[wanton dawn]

aand frags only works if BoN has eaten someone

[slow garden]

I run all the nade talents but one though, and tend to use my kraks to save ammo / proactively kill off metal waves

[wanton dawn]

Two frags makes everything go away in the whole room

[quasi socket]

so consumed blessing are shared across characters, does that mean the psyker ps can get pc4?

[slow garden]

Maybe they buffed frags since last time I used them

I tried them a long time ago and was very underwhelmed with the results

[serene sage]

Throw 2

If you want damage

1 doesn't even kill poxwalkers kek

But 2 can wipe put any ranged patrols, elites or not

[wanton dawn]

thats' because damage from bleed has exponential return

[gritty dock]

Have you already upgraded this weapon to gold? I'm curious what you got. 🙂

[slow garden]

I tend to prefer things dieing instantly rather than having a bleedout, probably explains my bias toward krak

And to ogryn nade

[wanton dawn]

Well, frags put things on their knees

[quasi socket]

the chainsword? not yet. ive been letting it sit at blue because it feels strong already in damnation, and hadron cant brick it if i never upgrade

[wanton dawn]

Usually die by the time they get up

[jade notch]

So folks, which one should I keep on my Vet? Columnus with Reload Speed was what I got The Bell Tolls For Thee Penance with.

[slow garden]

I will try it again though, it has been awhile since I tried frags last

[wanton dawn]

But again, for damage you throw 2

[slow garden]

Cant hurt to run it for a couple missions

[quasi socket]

personally would run 2nd one

[umbral scaffold]

Somebody just helped me complete the on OverWatch achievement

[umbral scaffold]

What a nice fella

[umbral scaffold]

Zamn

[quasi socket]

better damage/stopping power

[flat furnace]

I'd keep the first one

[flat furnace]

LMAO

[umbral scaffold]

Okay so now all I need is fight the good fight and through the mud then I'll be completely done with veteran

[jade notch]

That's 1 vote for both Columnus lol, noted

[quasi socket]

screw it, keep both, swap between em, find what works for you @jade notch

[cedar pecan]

Is +17% toughness max for a curio?

[spring spindle]

Did he mean “born Cadian” as in born as a cadian. Or just born and that I happen to be cadian

[jade notch]

That I could find, yeah

[quasi socket]

yes

[cedar pecan]

cool thanks

[quasi socket]

can get a 2nd toughness roll on it as well

[jade notch]

@flat furnace
Tru, I'll chew on it. Thanks for answering you two, appreciate it

[quasi socket]

@cedar pecan 2nd roll would only be 2-5% increase tho

[cedar pecan]

Oh my god Hadron

[flat furnace]

It's okey, they're both good
I liked the first one because of the perks it has, 25% flak sounds good :]

[jade notch]

It used to be "+20% Sprint Efficiency", IIRC

[brisk oxide]

nightmare

[flat furnace]

lololol thanks Hadron !

[cedar pecan]

guess I'll keep using my blue one then

[brisk oxide]

+experience either shouldn't exist or stop existing when you hit 30

[jade notch]

Keep the Stam Regen, the other two aren't that useful in comparison.

[hollow ibex]

Oof. Actually kinda hard to brick curios too…

[cedar pecan]

Yeah but stamina regen is kinda useless too for me

[quasi socket]

@jade notch my columnus, argument can be made to have a split dump between ammo and mobility

[quasi socket]

stam regen nice when boss blocking and weaving unless you're a pro at kiting

also good if running deadshot

[jade notch]

True, it's not that great. Just not as bad as the other two Perks.

[flat furnace]

hey guys, I want your opinions on melee weapons for a command voice vet
I'm aiming to beat Orthus Offensive hard

[cedar pecan]

I would have went with it if it was at least a tier 4

[flat furnace]

I don't know if go with any power sword, a chain axe or a chain sword

[jade notch]

I did it with the Mk VII Shovel you saw above

Handy for dropping Scab Ragers, Crushers and Maulers without sacrificing defensive utility

PS Mk 6 kills them faster, but you're not as nimble because of that dodge penalty.

[timber raven]

people use anything other than a power sword? 🙃

[flat furnace]

well I have this one for my krieger cosplay

[jade notch]

Fair, fair. Might have to brick that one then.

[zealous wyvern]

i have used the powersword twice, 8 months ago

[flat furnace]

it could be better
I thought all the new shovels had the penetration special attack...
I guess only the ogryns have it :[

[jade notch]

They do though?

It's just not 1-tap kill like the Ogryn Folding Shovels

[livid warren]

Highest toughness curios ?

[jade notch]

17% Toughness

[zealous wyvern]

@flat furnace mk3 does not. mk16a does

wait

i am confused

there are 2 new shovels

i did not know this

ok i think mk7 is the one with the pick special

mk3 does not but i wonder what it does differently from the standard issue model

[livid warren]

Is that the highest it goes?

[quasi socket]

for primary roll yes

can get another 2-5% perk on them as well

[jade notch]

Yes, I've yet to see someone roll 18% or higher for the Primary Roll

[flat furnace]

gosh now i'll have to look every shovel special attack

[jade notch]

The OG Shovel Special is still good because it staggers Crushers

And Mutants mid-charge if you can hit them right in the face/weakspot.

[quasi socket]

can use darktide build editor to see possible rolls on curios too

[flat furnace]

oh no wait

we have it

oh gawd now i have to reroll a new shovel

[jade notch]

May Hadron not fuck you over with the Shovel rolls 🫡

[lilac gale]

what's the difference between the shotguns?

im thinking of running one in a weapons specialist build

[south spindle]

Works well, Agri' is better suited to Marksman's, Lawbringer an Kantreal both work super well for Weap'spec' tho

[flat furnace]

thank you brother!

[south spindle]

Flechette/Manstopper + Flak/Maniac for Lawbringer, Manstopper/FireFrenzy + Flak/Maniac for Kantreal

[lilac gale]

is the pinned doc for weapons updated for the new patch?

[flat furnace]

hey guys, I'd like to hear your suggestions on melee weapons for a command voice vet
I'm aiming to beat Orthus Offensive hard

[lilac gale]

ah, looks simple enough without getting into minutia

[lilac gale]

'hard'?

[flat furnace]

the secret hard mode?

all that easter egg with the bells?

Of course I'm trying to beat it in t5

[lilac gale]

gotcha. still need to unlock that :p

[flat furnace]

no worries pal
i'm sure you'll be ready soon!

[fickle thorn]

Is this the right chat to ask for opinions on weapon crafting or should I ask in a different channel?

Crafting a xiiig chainsword for a shout vet

[lilac gale]

i think youre good

[fickle thorn]

I usually stick to the combat knife so I'm open to any suggestions

[frank ether]

bad perks

the blessings are ok

you got rampage 4 thats good

rev it up not my favourite but sure why not

[fickle thorn]

I was considering swapping it for the one that does bleed on special hit

[lilac gale]

is either chainsword suited to horde-clearing? looking to pair something fun with a shotfun

[fickle thorn]

I think this one is light attack for horde and heavy for single target

[frank ether]

the old one is pretty decent for horde clear

not amazing but it can do it

[fickle thorn]

I'm running it with a Kantrael shotty

[frank ether]

same with chainaxe now

they arent gonna beat a powersword

but they do it good enough

[lilac gale]

is new one primarily for specials/elites?

[frank ether]

I would just fix perks and use it as is till you can get one with better shredder

then you can research rampage 4 out of this and put it on the new one

[frank ether]

no idea honestly. Its not like the old one is bad at elite killing.

I assume it just has strikedowns instead of cleaves or something

so vertical swings

[fickle thorn]

light attack is strikedown and 3 vanguards

[lilac gale]

new one's lights is SD, V, V, V

[fickle thorn]

heavy is 2 strikedowns and a vanguard

[frank ether]

I just think at that point

I'd just use a chainaxe

can't believe I'm saying that

but its actually not terrible now

I like the light attack rev now that you can cancel out of it

its like an on demand mini special

[zealous wyvern]

but i already told you which one has the pick

[lilac gale]

very cool

i just rolled a pretty nice power sword, time to cleave

[frank ether]

I mean the light attack rev on chaxe is

one shotting mutie

lmao

thats like, actually good

[lilac gale]

niiice

[frank ether]

basically you just stack up your blessings

and then your light revs will be enough to one hit dogs, muties (aim for head), flamers etc

[lilac gale]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ad92b5f-8b4f-42c7-adb8-a7980cc13acf/boom-and-bzzt

Idk if this looks solid or if shout is needed here. i like it for the support aspect. are the last three nodes for weapspec worth going deeper for?

[flat furnace]

I was blind before, now I see the answer

still... I'd like a power sword or a chain melee weapon, so now I'm thinking what is best for my current need
my need being defeat the twins

I should ask someone who has already defeated them

[zealous wyvern]

i used chain and revolver

not secret difficulty but damnation

shout

my chain is not good but i know how to make it good

rampage shred for crit and damage

i can see the pick shovel doing what i did with the sword though

if you have a team already it depends on what they bring

[flat furnace]

chain axe or chain sword? that's the dilemma

[zealous wyvern]

you need at least one horde clearer imo

NO AXE

idk

all i know is that the axe lights lock you into hits too much and i hate it

[flat furnace]

oh no, I don't have one as for now :[

[zealous wyvern]

anyone can defend the chain axe?

because i only ever hear it is bad

[frank ether]

I dont think you need onslaught for this build unless each pellet counts as an individual proc, don't see it working very well

[zealous wyvern]

one person said it was good on bloodletter or something

might have been zealots though

[lilac gale]

Good call

[flat furnace]

well zealots have it easy tho

[frank ether]

think getting on your toes would be better than invigorated since you dont run deadshot, your stamina needs shouldn't be that heavy

should you decide to run deadshot then it has value

[lilac gale]

hmmm

[atomic zephyr]

new chaxe special can onehit a crusher

easy

[frank ether]

cutting some points off of right side bottom row to invest in some other things can result in a better build

[atomic zephyr]

does a shitload of single target damage and pretty good horde clear too

[lilac gale]

im all ears

[sand abyss]

Ur better off with a chain sword

[frank ether]

was kantrael the slug special shotgun?

[flat furnace]

This one?

[frank ether]

I need to know that first

[sand abyss]

I just got a good cleave roll one

[atomic zephyr]

yes, this with thrust fucks

i like it cause the heavies have the cutting effect while the lights dont

as opposed to the other one

so i can spam light for horde clear and heavies for single target strikedown overheads

[lilac gale]

indiary

god what a typ

[atomic zephyr]

i think its better for stealth than knife just for ease of use

[lilac gale]

incendiary

[frank ether]

I was thinking starting with top right row or the middle row might be better but unfortunately I'm not too familiar with how the incendiary shotgun works

[sand abyss]

Imma ask cause i can’t figure it out, what is 30m in game

[frank ether]

hang on I'll make an example build

[flat furnace]

@atomic zephyr I ask because I'm looking for a good weapon overall to kill the twins with

[frank ether]

to get you the idea

[lilac gale]

ty, gonna jump into a match now

[atomic zephyr]

yeah a chainaxe will do you good

[flat furnace]

I've heard that chain weapons and power swords are good melee options against them

[atomic zephyr]

though i found that like, any weapon will be ok you just have to be mobile

on the run where i beat them i was using VoC, kant laspistol and power sword mk6

[flat furnace]

the good ol' commissar loadout

[atomic zephyr]

mhm

the biggest issue i found is the running back and forth between the fans during the toxgas phases

[south spindle]

Big E gone done gifted me the best thing i think he ever has

[atomic zephyr]

because you can get caught up in the horde and subsequently eaten alive

hence, VoC

or stealth, that'll work too but less support oriented

[lilac gale]

could one-shot a primarch

[flat furnace]

perhaps I could add a movement speed perk and the flak 25% bonus dmg

[atomic zephyr]

yeah, or maniac either works lol

[flat furnace]

btw, do you by any chance know the difference between the two power swords?

I guess the Mk VI is better¿

[south spindle]

Lmao, does certainly hit like a truck

[fickle thorn]

The mark 4 adds a strikedown every 4th swing

on light attacks only

while the mark 3 only has vanguard attacks

theoretically the mark 3 would be best for unlimited horde clear while the mark 4 throws in a strikedown occaisionally for somethng tougher

i don't know the attack angle differences tho

[flat furnace]

a strikedown? like, a finisher attack of sorts?

[fickle thorn]

Higher damage on 1 target

while vaunguards are a small sweep

that hit a few things

[pearl granite]

with this hat out, I expect to see one orgyn cosplaying as Santa in each and every match from now til Jan 1st

[buoyant matrix]

What's the go-to melee for you guys? Curious

[flat furnace]

mhhh I'm liking the Mk VI

[fickle thorn]

i would buy 1 of each in from brunt and take it into the firing range

[buoyant matrix]

Most of my hours are on that sword lol

[fickle thorn]

swing em about for a bit and see which feels better

[flat furnace]

right

thanks guys!

[fickle thorn]

Combat Blade

[low lava]

MK4 better at dealing with elites due to pushstab > overhead

[normal depot]

Does the weapon specialist keystone for weapon firerate have any impact on the plasma gun?

[low lava]

MK3 more braindead to use for hordeclear since heavies are horizontal and repeating

[flat furnace]

shovel , as I'm running a krieger cosplay

[buoyant matrix]

Neat

[buoyant matrix]

Based

[copper pine]

Mk3 has a faster activation and has horizontal heavies. Mk6 can block cancel the activation and has a strong thrust attack on push.

[flat furnace]

that sound pretty cool indeed

[buoyant matrix]

Did the power swords get their blocking nerfed btw?

[low lava]

MK6 is probably better to learn overall since it can do what mk3 does and more, but MK3 does have ease of use going for it

[frail horizon]

hey guys, does marksman talent work on melee?
it says only weak spot hits\

[frank ether]

honestly after trying what I had in mind I'm left disappointed lmao

the fire damage doesnt rly seem to scale much with crits and it doesnt proc onslaught either

[buoyant matrix]

I'm starting to notice a difference from last month

[frank ether]

the build I had in mind was to stack up reload speed, have deadshot and get high on crits

[frank ether]

but it works a lot better on agri slugs than it is on kantrael

[unreal bone]

Man I'm about to get crucified I feel but

I actually hate all of these new shop outfits.

[fickle thorn]

^

[normal depot]

They look good, but not something I'd ever buy

i'm a sucker for anything sailor/ship so meh

[humble nova]

I hear you're switching to ogryn main then

[unreal bone]

Yeah I mean they look okay but why the fuck would I wanna look like I'm tryna conquest the new world and running the slave trade on the original 13 colonies of america.

[fickle thorn]

Still waiting for fatshark to drop Cadian sets for 5800

[unreal bone]

Not happening bro

it's just not

[serene sage]

Context? Lmao

[unreal bone]

The cadian set for leaked 12months ago

[terse idol]

I mean valid, I want infantry/heavy infantry looks

[terse idol]

Not uh, rogue traders

[unreal bone]

Yeah fr

[normal depot]

I just want a trench raider with plate for my vet.

[terse idol]

[unreal bone]

But yeah @fickle thorn The cadian sets are never coming bro might aswell just give up and move on. 😭

[tiny summit]

Because I look dapper as fuck

[humble nova]

Imagine thinking they weren't going to attempt to capitalize on the release of a new 40K game

[tiny summit]

Cadian sets aren't coming just like you aren't getting cadia back

[fickle thorn]

I appreciate the advice and I will not be doing that 🙂

[unreal bone]

It will do you good.

[normal depot]

that's hot

[unreal bone]

That was also leaked just about 12 months ago.

[normal depot]

oh oof

[unreal bone]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-watering-the-plant-tree-gif-10162552

[tiny summit]

We've had a red version of it

[unreal bone]

It's in the game files too.

[fickle thorn]

Where did you get this footage of me

[unreal bone]

We have a red version of it.. But no red helmets.

[zealous wyvern]

when what where is this i want this

[unreal bone]

Never

[zealous wyvern]

oh

[quasi socket]

how long does it take to get "comfortable" with plasma? givin it another shot, feels kinda...mid?

[terse idol]

Well eventually

[normal depot]

I'd kill for some good camo variants

[unreal bone]

Like I said was leaked 12 months ago.

[terse idol]

Dunno when

[zealous wyvern]

it took me 2 days

[terse idol]

Yeah

[tiny summit]

[terse idol]

And rogue trader released

[zealous wyvern]

make sure you have a solid roll

[terse idol]

Of course the cosmetics this week

Are gonna be rogue trader

[wanton dawn]

Ah, managed to update my scoreboard with twins boss

[humble nova]

Whenever you stop charging shots

[unreal bone]

The red version would be okay if we had a red helmet.

[lilac gale]

the shotgun didnt feel great for karnak

[zealous wyvern]

i loved charging shots

[wanton dawn]

Now I will now who is not pulling its weight

[zealous wyvern]

i love charging plasma shots

its so fun

vrrrrrrrr BOM

vrrrrrrr BOOM

[terse idol]

Yeah you can't charge too many shots on the plasmagun

[unreal bone]

Wow guys look!

There is a red helmet

[brisk oxide]

charging shots is bad? i haven't ever seen a good rolled plasma since hitting 30

[unreal bone]

that matches the red militarum battlegear

too bad fartshart

wont release it.

I hate fartshart

[zealous wyvern]

rude

[terse idol]

I hope they add in the green version with a closed helm

[zealous wyvern]

if i was fatshark i would look at what cosmetics you want and delete them now

[civic knot]

What to change? keep rev it up?

[zealous wyvern]

dammit i said it too

you tricked me

[unreal bone]

Fartshart is so clueless

[brisk oxide]

i kinda like rev it up for utility

but obv that's not peak for damage

[tiny summit]

Rev it up kinda fun because you can close the gap with your target but eh your preference

[civic knot]

what else is good tho?

[fickle thorn]

I'm pretty sure they made this weeks cosmetics Rogue Trader because of the game that just came out

[quasi socket]

@zealous wyvern current roll im running

[humble nova]

Uh

[unreal bone]

There are 2 Cadian sets for Veteran

[humble nova]

Where's the last blessing

[unreal bone]

and neither have been added

🤡

[zealous wyvern]

VERY mid i think

[terse idol]

Not goood

[celest vine]

New shop refresh?

[unreal bone]

Actually wait no there are 3 cadian sets for veteran

[celest vine]

Whats in it

[next spade]

should I buy this one? Infernus good?

[tiny summit]

Thunderous? Bloodletter? Thrust? Slaughter? Take your pick with chainaxe blessings

[zealous wyvern]

you dont need gloryhunter usually, chaff dmg is obviously redundant as you already oneshot them

[unreal bone]

British and American Slave Traders.

[celest vine]

[unreal bone]

Oh sorry I watched too much Oversimplified on youtube.

[terse idol]

Well I'll be fair the numbers are good, but groaners suck

[zealous wyvern]

crit is also meh right?

[terse idol]

You need to have unarmoured and or test to see if you can one shot both gunners

[tiny summit]

Every ask for the stuff you want delays it

[quasi socket]

hadron didnt bless it well. just hoping for a good final blessing. im broke AF to be honest.

[terse idol]

Yeah crit is meh

[unreal bone]

You can't delay something that's never coming out bro.

[terse idol]

Just replace groaners with unarmoured

Or

[celest vine]

What the fuck is this piece of shit

[terse idol]

Test your breakpoint on dredge gunners and scab gunners

[unreal bone]

If it didn't come out 1 year after it was leaked. (So that means it was in works longer than a year that we were unaware of) it's never coming out.

The Cadian sets are never being released.

[humble nova]

ngl the skull pauldron is pretty dope

[quasi socket]

by 1 shot you mean a tap and not charge, yeah?

[humble nova]

I'll pass on the tricorne hat though

[tiny summit]

Gloryhunter is redundant since you can get the same toughness replenish from the 2nd middle node in the tree

[humble nova]

Bicorn? Eh whatever

[brisk oxide]

imo these sets do kinda break believability on the characters

[humble nova]

You say that like routinely murderizing chaos creatures isn't also doing the same thing

[tiny summit]

Nah, we're officially a part of the war band now

[brisk oxide]

it's not like Kevin Durant and Homelander level skins, but it's more in that direction

[next spade]

Does Shattering Impact do anything on Plasma gun? Dosnt it already have maximum armor pen?

[terse idol]

Yeah

Tap head shot

Most pgun gameplay you left click tap not charge

[thick kestrel]

brittleness applies armour reduction for other people shooting the same target, so shattering impact theoretically makes it easier for your team mates to damage what you've hit.

[terse idol]

Its why breakpoint on both gunners is important

[humble nova]

Imagining a zealot doing a fury charge with that pegleg is really ruining my immersion

[thick kestrel]

as opposed to rending, which only provides that armour reduction for hits from yourself

[quasi socket]

scab 1 shot, dreg drops to 10-20% (dreg is the unarmored, yeah? yellow cloth?)

[next spade]

yes but does it give anything to your output with the gun?

I guess gotta test

[thick kestrel]

admittedly on a plasma gun it's a little superflouous against all but the biggest targets ^^

but yes, it would still provide some bonus damage

[terse idol]

Yeah

[brisk oxide]

interesting. so maybe veteran with fast firing gun+onslaught might be a good combo for the twins?

[terse idol]

You need to change talents and or add in +Unarmoured damage

To meet that breakpoint

[quasi socket]

yeah gonna swap from pox to unarmored.

[pulsar drift]

Hey guys what build do you run for the hard mode twins?

[tiny summit]

Haven't tried hard mode but that's what I used with a columnus

[brisk oxide]

good to know

[quasi socket]

using chainsword for hordes, awaiting a good ps6 roll

[thick kestrel]

it's a fairly solid choice for high dakka guns like BRautos, IAG's and Recon Lasguns as a whole, so I would presume so?

[bitter sundial]

How would you guys try and salvage this heh

[terse idol]

*would recommend taking +30% weak point damage talent to see if that makes up the difference

[unreal bone]

These sets never coming out lol.

[terse idol]

And elite damage*

[frank ether]

@gusty bison have any funny builds for kantrael shotty? I tried doing your funny reload build on it but I honestly don't understand incendiary. Seems kinda meh?

[tiny summit]

We don't talk about recons in their state vs autoguns

[unreal bone]

Just realized veteran has 4 cadian sets. XD

[terse idol]

They'll come ouuut

[unreal bone]

in the files.

[terse idol]

It just takes long for the shop to rotate

[unreal bone]

Dude it's been a year.

[terse idol]

Honestly FS needs to rotate shop every week

[unreal bone]

A literal year.

[quasi socket]

precision strikes? its in my build

[brisk oxide]

i actually have a recon gun that is about as good as my columnus V

very similar DPS

[terse idol]

Goood, yeah if you still can't make the breakpoint put that unarmoured on for a try and it should make up the difference

With! Extra elite damage talent

[tiny summit]

I mean. I would probably go maniac or flak. That's all I would do to it unless you got a better blessing than rampage. I like bleed

[unreal bone]

Like fr bro I'm pretty easy to please, I'd just be happy if they released this red helmet. I actually prefer the mars red camo.

[brisk oxide]

Speaking of, would you go Dumdum or Infernus on the Recon Lasgun?

[tiny summit]

Or just not rotate the shop. Have rotating sales on sets but everything available

[terse idol]

Just waiiiiit

[brisk oxide]

online people seemed to like infernus for unyielding but the DoT seems meh to me

[unreal bone]

Bro I been waiting

[terse idol]

From a marketing strategy it just ain't good

[south spindle]

Dumdum/Headhunter, but if you wanna make it work properly, you both need to be accurate and to run Marksman's Focus

[terse idol]

Me helping corpos out

[unreal bone]

I disagree fomo shop is stupid af.

[terse idol]

You get more people buying things if you rotate the shop every week

[brisk oxide]

yeah i have Headhunter on it now, i need to put Dumdum on it i think

[terse idol]

Rather than have everything available

[unreal bone]

Another game I play SWTOR is trying out a fomo shop for the first time in it's life cycle and people absolutely hate it.

[finite imp]

Jesus loves you. Melk does not

[south spindle]

Ye do that

[unreal bone]

I been waiting though bro it's never happening.

[raw steppe]

who cares about the FOMO shop and all these other strategies.

the important thing is that you can't pay real $$ to affect gameplay

anything else they can do whatever the fuck they want

[quasi socket]

anyone got a talent build for MESC? got a revolver on standby, was gonna try to grind it today

[south spindle]

They are kinda losing money when they could just make a storepage with everything on it an add to it each two week period

[brisk oxide]

@south spindle Why Marksman's focus though?

[unreal bone]

Yes fomo shop is stupid af, they will make more money over shorter durations.. But over the LONG run they'll make more money if they just left everything up for purchase.

[tiny summit]

I know why they do it. Always gonna be on the consumer's side

[south spindle]

Because its a weapon that relies on finesse damage, IE; Headshots + Crits, so you take the Keystone that buffs, well, headshots and crits

[finite imp]

My team thought I was going to die first because I had pay piggie cosmetics on.

Clutched. Twice.

[terse idol]

Yeag

[brisk oxide]

makes sense

[unreal bone]

Because say they release a set next rotation and people don't like it, but 2 weeks later they release another set and you can mix and match the pieces and now it's great.

Fomo is stupid

[terse idol]

I mean the fomo aspect being, if everything is on the shop people are incentivized

To wait

[raw steppe]

lol no this just isnt true

[unreal bone]

Yes it is

[raw steppe]

16 year old kid making shit up

when he understands nothing about this kind of stuff

[terse idol]

They won't make more money if thry have everything on the shop

[raw steppe]

fomo store will always sell more

[tiny summit]

Stupid af system I agree. Marketing teams have the data to justify to tell you you're wrong.

[unreal bone]

Idk man sounds more childish to just start insulting people and saying their kids? XD

[south spindle]

The fuck 😂 Imagine thinking that because you bought some shit from the store its gonna impact how you play

[terse idol]

Let's not throw insults

We just want cosmetics

🥹

[finite imp]

This is not an effective way to apply your perspective

[raw steppe]

i dont really care

i've already decided he's a dumbass

when i read that shit

[south spindle]

Marketing teams are as useful as Psychologists in gaming outside of getting the initial product to sell. IE; they're fucking not

[terse idol]

Its the issue that people will wait when everything in the shop, it's why fomo shops exist in the first place because people worry that they'll miss out and not get the item until months down the line

[brisk oxide]

could be the case that it is more profitable in the long term though and they're simply not looking at the long term. many businesses die because of next-quarter thinking

[torn gorge]

[unreal bone]

Real clown energy from that guy.

[finite imp]

Right but now you've created this narrative that people who agree with your views act like jackasses

[tiny summit]

Who are ones making money with videogames? The random discord user or the companies?

[blazing horizon]

Another day, another random fight in veteran chat

[raw steppe]

aite here we go

HK-49 #Fatshark Fix Plasma: Yes fomo shop is stupid af, they will make more money over shorter durations.. But over the LONG run they'll make more money if they just left everything up for purchase.
this is objectively not true

[terse idol]

Okay... actually sorry but

[unreal bone]

I'm not fighting anyone. 🤣

[south spindle]

Appeal to the people that give you your paycheck, not your suits

[raw steppe]

we can see this

[terse idol]

This is why mobile games are like this

[raw steppe]

in every single market

[terse idol]

Are make THE MOST MONEY

Out of any game

[raw steppe]

video games, non video games

[terse idol]

Because of these strategies

[raw steppe]

every single market where a fomo store exists

[terse idol]

Because companies spend money to do research on consumers

[raw steppe]

makes more money than having everything available all the time

[unreal bone]

Then how come non-fomo games like SWTOR are actually losing money right now cause they tried to roll out fomo shops? 🤣

[terse idol]

Its why fhe mobile gaming market is so much bigger than the regular gaming market

[raw steppe]

yes, because they want to make money, and doing research makes sense

[unreal bone]

Explain that lmao.

[terse idol]

Because SWTOR isn't popular

Why is WoW still alive

[south spindle]

More because thats whats the most popular form of gaming in Asia, which is both a relatively captured market, and a huge portion of said market

[torn gorge]

that has to do with expectations

[terse idol]

Because its popular

[raw steppe]

because specific games may have failed the implementation, or the game is bad

[tiny summit]

They know this. They also do risk assessment to determine what would generate profit. And yea unfortunate thing is, they need to think long term and short term at the same time

[unreal bone]

Bruh wym.

[terse idol]

WoW makes a killing on the cosmetic store

Its just bad implementation

By swtor

[raw steppe]

companies dont do this shit because it's fun

they do it becuse it works

[unborn ridge]

yo guys whats the best build and loadout for twins hard mode

[finite imp]

Destroy them with facts and logic hell yeah brother

[raw steppe]

and if you say it doesnt work "just because you feel like it shouldn't", then you're just kinda crazy

[finite imp]

Mud flinging gets you nowhere

[raw steppe]

because your feels mean nothing

in the face of raw market research

and facts

[tiny summit]

How old are you?

[unreal bone]

Who said anything about feels? What are you reading? 🤣

[south spindle]

Old enough to remember a time where patches didnt exist and if you released a broken, or scam product, you made absolutely fuck all

[forest scaffold]

Headhunter and Infernus

or headhunter and dum dum

just depends on how you play the recon

[brisk oxide]

cool

[tiny summit]

It's a balancing act of maximizing money w/o burning good will

[finite imp]

I mean I don't think you're upset but the laughing crying emoji is definitely something I see people who are 100% rustled use

[wanton dawn]

not old enough for the great game depression then 😮

[forest scaffold]

if you use it like a brauto, dum dum

if you use it like a mid-line shooty shooty bang bang kill ranged enemies, then infernus

[raw steppe]

tbh i dont think good will matters if the product is good lol

if the product is good, people will buy it, regardless

[tiny summit]

So just never learned how businesses can operate

[south spindle]

Its been downhill since patches and live updates became a thing in all honesty

[unreal bone]

My point with fomo is it generates more money in bursts, but non-fomo has more consistent revenue.

If they release a shop cosmetic right now that people don't really like for one reason or another.

But say next month they release another cosmetic set that you can mix and match with the previous one to make it look better, but oops it's not in the shop anymore so people aren't going to buy either.

[south spindle]

Here we go again 🙄

[terse idol]

Second, did you see SWTOR at the VGA?
Nope
Did we see the bigger mmos also with a cosmetic store like ff14?

Yep

[raw steppe]

this isn't necessarily true. do you have the numbers to back it up

[terse idol]

It simply isn't the case saddly

[finite imp]

Dude there's a reason they're doing it one way and not another.

[tiny summit]

I tend to bind goodwill and product quality together at time. Consumer good will is up with a decent product.

[raw steppe]

generally 80-90% of the sales for new MTX in video games is within the first 2 weeks

[brisk oxide]

The only way a FOMO shop is less profitable is if it breaks the consumer and people abandon ship

[finite imp]

I don't think your singular analytics are going to trump the entirety of fatshark

[brisk oxide]

otherwise it's a superior model

[raw steppe]

FOMO shop lends itself well

[tiny summit]

The data the companies have to stay afloat says otherwise

[raw steppe]

with these numbers

[finite imp]

Math is math sadly

[tiny summit]

Not my fault you can't understand anything

[unreal bone]

Also why are we still talking about this, did you see Starfield at the VGA lol.

[torn gorge]

that really is not the case
timed event generate hype, and if that is the most appealing cosmetic for you at that time you are more likely to splurge

[eternal sable]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-eat-lava-minecraft-kitty-kitten-lava-gif-12699880907047808909

[south spindle]

I'm of the opinion that BG3 did so well, and won so many awards, because it didnt try to nickel and dime customers and was a fully working, well developed product, that you know, people actually wanted to buy on its own merits

[brisk oxide]

Starfield is the biggest joke in gaming in the last 5 years

[unreal bone]

I don't disagree

[torn gorge]

BG3 has been 3 YEARS in EA

on top of the actual production time

like

[raw steppe]

and you know what? if baldur's gate had a rotating MTX store and horse armor and cosmetic DLC, it STILL would've won

[torn gorge]

how can you even compare the 2 products?

[raw steppe]

the nickeling and diming customers matters not

for whether it s a good game or not

[finite imp]

Facts that I hate

[south spindle]

It would have been less celebrated as a game being a game as opposed to a giant marketing schtick

[woeful galleon]

To be utterly honest I'd just hope Fatshark just opens up the whole shop, or at least expands on the sets that are sold at a time, I've been waiting for months for the chance to pay them actual money. and each addition to the rotation makes stuff rarer.

[tiny summit]

Different game, different appeal, different kind of product and many will question you on its stability and bugs when it launched.

[unreal bone]

Fr same

I have waited like 4 or 5 months to buy aquilas and there is just never anything worth buying cause I missed the one set I wanted to buy.

[brisk oxide]

yeah like there's probably some sets i'd like to buy, but no idea if i'll still be playing when they show up

[south spindle]

Do you have to go out of your way to be an issufferable w*nkstain at every opportnunity Sprinkles? If you dont like me, block me, because this is getting very boring now

[unreal bone]

fr

[finite imp]

I once said that I hoped STALKER 2 was all one big open map I was responded to with probably not.
I asked why
He said cuz I like the loading screens

???? The delusion

[south spindle]

Havent they confirmed its going to be open world already?

Pretty hopeful for that one tbh

[unreal bone]

If it's not open world what's the point.

[finite imp]

I have no idea but that really blew my hair back

[tiny summit]

You say something, I can respond and share another perspective. Not my fault when you are wrong.

[south spindle]

If nothing else, it'll be another fantastic opportunity for modders to run rampant

[finite imp]

NOT EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE OPEN WORLD SURVIVAL CRAFTIIIIING

https://tenor.com/view/batman-slap-robin-slap-gif-10206784

[south spindle]

You're welcome to, but day after day after day because you seem to have a chip on your shoulder, aint it pal

[brisk oxide]

STALKER feels like it should be open world though

[tiny summit]

The 4 cursed runes

[unreal bone]

Who said everything has to be open world survival crafting?

[unreal bone]

This ^

[south spindle]

It might come as a surprise, but you're not the arbiter of all things right in the world

[tiny summit]

Not really. You just seem sensitive

[unreal bone]

Damn bro I said one comment about Stalker 2 and the dude blows up. 🤣

[finite imp]

Stop engaging with him

[tiny summit]

True

[woeful galleon]

That's the thing isn't it? I just want a coat and funny hat for my commissar OC and just need to see if in however many months when it finally comes around me and my friends will even be playing the game still.

[south spindle]

No, just very bored of teenagers on the internet thinking they're the dog's bollocks all the time

[finite imp]

It was a joke you dummy

[unreal bone]

It's kinda hard to tell over text lmao.

[finite imp]

Yeah the Batman slapping gif wasn't a dead give away

[unreal bone]

You'd be surprised what people will post and be serious.

[south spindle]

Worked for Fntastic.. oh wait

[finite imp]

No I wouldn't

[brisk oxide]

right, it feels like they're leaving money on the table. should be some way to get one particular set you want, even if it's on some fomo timer

[unreal bone]

No trust me you would.

I have obtained some vile gifs.

[finite imp]

No trust me. I wouldn't

[unreal bone]

Bro you don't even wanna know about the glow in the dark horse D*ldo gif.

[south spindle]

🙄

[finite imp]

Listen here pal I think Ive been doing this internet surfing a liiiiittle longer than you and I don't know how you big city boys do things but we do things a little bit differently out here 🤓

[unreal bone]

And how do you know that? 🤔

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-boy-cowboy-gif-12550037

[finite imp]

This fucking guy

Still can't catch the sarcasm

Jesus

[woeful galleon]

Yup, honetly rotating sales does feel like an ok way to go, make the whole thing a bit expensive so you can buy it whenever, but have most of the purchases on like, a good deal every week and so.

[unreal bone]

Sarcasm is hard to read when I'm filling out finanacial aid papers for my school and checking my darktide shop. 🤣

[eternal sable]

fatshark made so much money this morning its crazy

i queue in now both times full teams with full cosmetics

all new stuff

[unreal bone]

My question is since this week was supposed to be a shop repeat.

Will next week be a shop repeat now.

[eternal sable]

2 weeks

[finite imp]

I literally already told you I was joking the proceeded to do it again not even a minute later and still you're saying it was lost on you. Theres a constant here

[unreal bone]

Or are they continuing with their normal schedule.

[tiny summit]

That would be perfect for me, alas they aren't choosing a shit system because they are stupid, they doing it because it works

[eternal sable]

its biweekly on a thursday

[finite imp]

Brother just forget it

[eternal sable]

so 2 thursdays from now :3

[unreal bone]

The constant is you're a completely random stranger that I know nothing about and dk when you are or aren't being sarcastic lmao.

[finite imp]

Even when I just told you I was ok. Just forget about it lol

[unreal bone]

Yeah and I could tell you I'm the son of Bill Gates don't mean it's true lmao.

[finite imp]

???

[tiny summit]

The classic halo armor shot Halo Infinite in the bestsellers list on steam which of course doesn't include Xbox players who bought into it

[finite imp]

Anyway

[eternal sable]

who tf said the most

[brisk oxide]

okay that's kinda crazy

[eternal sable]

zealot got a peg leg

[brisk oxide]

tbh though if it means they're paying for us to get new content that actually adds to gameplay then i'm here for it

[eternal sable]

psyker got a ruff

[tiny summit]

I just keep this screenshot, never change sunrise

[brisk oxide]

lmao

[finite imp]

Lmao

[unreal bone]

So do we think Fartshart will resume with their regularly scheduled shop rotation and give us more new stuff next rotation.

Or just repeats.

Since today was the repeat day, but wasn't repeats.

[tiny summit]

Dunno. Expect a recolor at some point

[unreal bone]

I'm thinking probably repeats next rotation, feels too generous to give us 3 rotations in a row of new stuff.

Well "new" stuff, last rotation was just 2 reskins and 2 new outfits.

[tiny summit]

They are at a good point with the game. We just got the anniversary update which game us 3 new missions with a pretty nice boss fight and technically moved the "plot" forward. I look forward to what fatshark has in store next year

[fresh mango]

melk you BASTARD

[unreal bone]

For me the gameplay has always been decent sure new missions are nice, but the chaos of the game director makes it pretty replayable if not a little frustrating

[fresh mango]

why couldnt it be PC4

[unreal bone]

when you get 2 bosses at the same time.

[brisk oxide]

I just started playing when it came out on Xbox and it's been great so far

the gameplay is really satisfying

[celest vine]

Get cycler 4 and unyielding

Sword is already good as it is

[tiny summit]

About the same. But I pre-ordered and I was on a business trip when it launched, heard about its problems and didn't touch it until the class revamp. Hearing my friends talk about what the game lacked hurt

[torn gorge]

i think there has been a new wave of new players approaching damnation and auric recently

[unreal bone]

If they'd just give us the Cadian battlegear version of this set or the Red kantrael helmet to match it I'd shut up and be happy.

[terse idol]

I mean, they could rotate the shop two weeks and it'd be better

Right now I don't know why they don't

[torn gorge]

judging by the levels of people in pubs and their performance

[terse idol]

Besides that maybe they don't have mang cosmetics

[finite imp]

the cheese is under the sauce

[finite imp]

no way in hell will they ever give us that

[celest vine]

Still need to launch enforcer gear

[brisk oxide]

yeah like i'm brand new into the game and i've seen a lot of people who seem to have no clue

[finite imp]

play damnation

[celest vine]

And green heavy flak

[pulsar drift]

Does onslaughts increases the dmg boss takes?

[finite imp]

all the good players are there

[pulsar drift]

I don’t quite get what does bitterness do

[brisk oxide]

i need to, but i play with my wife and she doesn't want to go past malice

[fresh mango]

really? the low cleave damage and finesse is fine?

[finite imp]

makes things taste bad

[celest vine]

Cleave damage is a dump stay

[fresh mango]

I never knew that

Well shit

[celest vine]

Finesse not so much

But its good enough

[eternal sable]

cleave damage is not the power sword dump stat

its cleave targets that is

[celest vine]

May not make a difference at that point

[eternal sable]

power cycler is your infinte cleave.

[finite imp]

mmm i could go for some hot tea

its cold out

[pulsar drift]

Had a twin pog and was struggling to kill mauler horde while keeping alive

The mines are so dangerous

[inland orchid]

the trick is to focus the adds before the twins

[celest vine]

Ogryn charge to mine clear

[tiny summit]

Brittleness is a armor debuff on the enemy. Your attacks and your teammates attacks will do more damage. Rending is armor penetration on just your attacks

[celest vine]

Also the mines are severed pox heads

Deathguard wannabes

[tiny summit]

Love this tea I picked up at the tea exchange near me. It's that warm fireside feeling kind of flavor

[pulsar drift]

Idk this is tough

[tiny summit]

Really? Cool afk

[finite imp]

I like a good light tea with a healthy bit of bitterness. Green is a favorite of mine

[pulsar drift]

Didn’t even make it to kill of one of the twins

: ( hard mode is indeed some dark souls for me

[inland orchid]

is for many

[nimble sentinel]

have some heresy

[inland orchid]

is called "hard mode" for a reason

[tiny summit]

imagine the smell

[terse idol]

Yeah and saddly I'm sure it made Bethesda money, I just brought it up because it's not a popular mmo

[stark hollow]

should i change elites or upgrade slaughterer to t4

[celest vine]

Elites easy

[terse idol]

Where WoW or ff14 both have subscriptions AND cash shops

And are very successful

[nimble sentinel]

marvelous

[stark hollow]

what do i change it to

[celest vine]

Its what? 1% more power