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I can relate
Once I had some muties play monkey in the middle with my body tossing me into one another until my teammate managed to kill one
hmmm so my skill leve still isnt sufficient to hard mode the twins, i can auric damn but not the twins with bells 
damnation normal twins was easily doable
Hard mode is squad reliant.
Everyone needs to be on the level or your chances of success are practically nonexistent.
this so far I have found a shout vet and shield ogryn are pretty much required to live
yea its a true test of teamwork
Damnation normal twins was laughable tbh. They took out the rest of the level
im a rando player, so the bells are interesting lol
BELLS
THE WEATHER OUTSIDE IS FRIGHTFUL
at this point all damnation missions are easy and so are most auric
BUT THIS FIRE IS MMMM
DELIGHTFUL
yea the twins actually posed a challenge
In your opinion guys, best weapons to defeat the twins?
and its good
I wanna upgrade my loadout
Well I rang Chaxe and Revolver and it worked out well on damnation
say you have a las pistol. would you rather have dumdum + infernus or ghost + infernus?
AND THIS
ran*
IS TO GO
dumdum imo
EVEN FURTHER BEYOND
I wonder how things would go if I went back to my plasgun
plasgun is still really good
mic spams Goku charging up the entirety of a damnation match
what do i want on my plasma rifle
anyone wants to do Hard mode?
Take it apart and rebuild it into an autogun
I already have it unlcoiked
You deserve 2
Autoguns lowkey slap
plasma is goated
Dual wield autogun
Blaze away + whatever else
Plasma is zzzquil
I remember I made a plasgun specially designed to kill unyielding enemies, I called it my "little pogchamp"
uhhh I mean, "ogryn killer"
Gets hot
aight
Blaze away and volatile might be good now that they have "supposedly fixed the charge rate code"
That would sure be something
But this one which is suboptimal does the job just fine for auric
I want a gun slathered in ribbona
Gets hot also works if ur into crits
I run plasma + krak
madman
That is why I love revolves, makes krak unnecarry and can pick up shredders instead for hordes
I run voice of command + focus target
im actually debating smokes since i barely use frags outside of bosses/ minibosses
i love you madlad
if smokes provided aid for temmates they would be goat but unless they do that I feels smokes just under perform
Tag boss, toss 2 nades , shout , boss is already near dead. And the cc bought enough time for team to delet it
This also works in situations where someone accidentally triggers the DH
Want
yeah idk i havnt really used them
With some plasma taps to the head you can also become the TH Zealot lite
I mainly use kraks for burst damage against armor and bosses
But I always have a knife so I can answer armor
Really the biggest threat to me with knife revolver and kraks is just too many enemies at once
But I can always back up
Voice of command > Creates space
Catachan > Deletes horde
Krak + Plasma > Packs of armor
Is knife better for armor than a chaxe? I run chaxe because of armor and when I feel hordes are an issue I use shovel. Never really ran knives
i love my chainsword
Also if you take enough rending then your revolver can headshot armor
the heavy sweep is good for hordes and the chain is solid on maniacs andarmor
oi the twins count as monstrosities?
I know they "nerfed" it but it's still "ok"
How about the new one?
Just use revolver for armor
havnt used it
If you can't aim the knife heavys cut through armor
They're both Flak
And knife lights handle chaff
Just like the scab captain boss
any particular knife you would reccomend I am interersted in trying them now and what blessing and perks would you run?
Perks for knife flak/maniac or flak/ unarmored
Or maniac unarmored
I kinda want Scab Captain to be more unique now and stick to Maul and Shotgun
Plaguegryn, Toxgryn, Beast of nurgle, DH and Chaos spawn are unyielding
Blessings do uncanny strike and the one that stacks damage for weak spot hits
Mobility is your dump stat
i just want a plasma pistol
Good luck and SONIC SPEED
The knife really makes you FEEL like a crackhead serial killer
Oh cool
I thought every boss counted as mounstrosities?
Also twins have highest hp with nurlge's blessing but at least they peace out at 20% hp
very nice thanks, I will keep any eye for a good roll knife do you prefer the mk3 or 6?
They are also
I recently tried going shotgun commander and boy do you get swarmed fast. Maybe I messed up but my stumbles from my shotgun did not effect the bosses with or without shielding
Every boss is a monstrocity but they have different armor
Both. Both are lovely. If you want more stabs for armor get mk3 if you want devastating heavy openers run by slashing get a 6
Monstrosity is enemy type, Flak is armour type
The hardest part of the knife is just getting used to the speed
You can check here in the future when in doubt
You will move fast as fuck and swing faster
Keep your light swings high to make sure your attack hit boxes are only connecting with heads to keep that damage stack
Dont just space dodge
Spam
You mean getting arthritis
Go to the doctor and have him inject the backs of your hands with lidocaine to maximize your performance. Follow this up with a venti mocha frappe with 20 shots of espresso
JustKeepSwinging
Then to stabilize your heart rate take about 20 ccs of pure heroin concentrate
After youve downed a couple tabs of acid and a few mgs of PCP you're ready to be a knife vet
Remember, living is a struggle that only ends in futility and you'll do fine
I used to play knife zealot in the past and I got pain in my hands after every missing
weapon with the best animations for sure though
It can really tax your hands if you have a hard time relaxing your muscles
Stretch them fingers in the airlock
Even a few seconds of break to stretch makes a difference
Honestly with how arthritis inducing the knife is it deserves a buff
It's a hard weapon to use
Physically I mean
I'm gonna be 31 in March and I already am feeling the regrets
Unfortunately I need to be able to pull heavies out of my ass
In mixed hordes
But I do use that mod
For those weird times when I decide to use a lasgun
Ok maybe I am just a wee bit lucky
Nice, grats!
Thanks, I did want to ask for some opinions on weither I should keep both blessing at 3 and refine the +8 for another 25% dmg or reblless maybe thrust to +20%
?
Im thinking Thrust
Depends what you want to do with it
I haven't played with the new shovels yet, don't know their feel well enough to say one way or the other.
It's a mark 7 so reaching that yummy one tap on crushers might be tricky
Keep thrust if you're into charge seings
Swings
You already put flack on which is good
Hmmm skull crusher can go tho
I forget exactly which blessing shovel has
Does shovel have uncanny?
If so then thay
That
Uncanny strike is good on new shovel
Yeah
The mark 7 does
Uncanny, keep thrust, keep flak, uhhh you really don't need to fighting maniacs with it
It's good if you can give them the bonk tho
That overall is gonna be a great crusher killer
Don't forget you can light swing with the pick
Good for doinking those annoying helmeted chaff
And on top of all that even tho the defense is dump stat that shovel is basically the vets shield
Decimator on shovel good for hoardes
I got decent stam regen and +3 stam curio
Limbsplitter good for crusher bonks
Yeah if I remember right that shovels heavies are the same as og shovel
So the defense isn't an issue
Hmm gonna try out the new shovel when i get back
Mk 7 shovel is all horizontal sweeps for heavies
Nice
The new chainsword is fun and all but not enough aoe i guess
Shovel defense stat is actually dump stat I think. You can inspect and see
Once when it connects and when you dislodge it
Defense is dump for most weapons, I think
Mk 7 special is diagonal heavy, mk 3 special is straight overhead and easier to use
I wish I could have the mk 7 heavy sweeps with the special overheard of the mk3
Im on my zealot rn
Mk 7 special overhead is still good just harder to aim cause of that diagonal angle
I'll gif a Norm. heavy and a spec. heavy in fwe minutes when I'm done letting the omnisiah bend me over
buy?
Do it
Do you know what you're getting into
That weapon is like a fucking minigun
It shits bullets like hail
Replace hit and run with dum dum and you a meat shredder
someone know about the elevator just before the twin fight being stuck
graia brauto goes BZZZZZZZZZ
Look who I stole

switch elite to flak?
You know it motherfucker
If you want a horder destroyer use unarmored
Literally watch chaff become red water vapor
That gun is so fucking funny
Irl your barrel would just become pudding
If burger king put out an ad where the CEO just comes out and tells you to go fuck yourself would you then go eat at burger king
But how?! It would take a tactical geniu- CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!
me watching fifteen gunners hammer down on my squad hunkered down in a tunnel while im the only one pinging targets
what is it with people in damnation and not pinging its not that hard
people ping in damnation
wdym
Just for that I'm gonna ping even less
pings floor repeatedly
if i can watch an entire row of gunners sit there and plink away at the psyker's shield as no one pings any of them (or any of the enemies below, for that matter) then its not enough
chad
bad luck ig
all my teammates ping
Not the console players, but yeah most do
anyone beat the twins on the uber mode? whats the reward?
I have. Just an insignia
oof
Do pubs even know hard mode
I did it with a pub and it was easy /shrug
Gamers
this is what you get
Hard mode as in after ringing the bells?
Yeah no, that's not hard mode.
There's another? Def rung at least one bell
Huh interesting
You need to ring each bell in sequence a number of times.
How the hell did someone figure that out already? lol pretty cryptic unless FS leaked that info
There's a wall in the mission with numbers on it.
And Chaos runes that translate to the Old Tongue.
I'm pretty sure there was a wall of numbers and someone tried it with the bells because of their interaction properties
We already knew how to read the runes a long while ago.
Not much environment to interact with
It's the most #theorycrafting has had to interact with in nearly a year.
Does this add-on with a special mission and these bells ever end or is it indefinite?
What is the best auto gun?
If you like fast-firing weapons, check out Columnus.
what are good blessings for it?
I think this build is best for him. This is the one I use.
I just got my 2nd vet to lvl 30 and rolled this. I was putting damage to flak perk and rending blessing at the minimum while leveling. anything against doing that here to replace maniacs and point blank?
I don't know if I can answer your question because I don't use a revolver, but I will note that...
This +14-20% Ranged Critical Chance after Melee Kill for 2.5 seconds.
It will be very good combined with Weapon Specialists and Always Prepared. 🙂
hey im an ogryn main so perks are foreign to me is this worth anything
I'm confused are the other class chats not helpful at all? Earlier we had a zealot main and now an ogryn main?
have you seen zealot kek
I finally beat the secret difficulty!
it DOES sound nice but from what i've experienced so far, there will be time's im snapping my sights on something but nothing to swing at and kill for the buff.
Holy shit that was hard
I haven't touched this discord since before this game came out, only played casually. Now with the update and RT coming out. I'm back on my Warhammer gaming addiction
just change both blessings
to Surgical/Hand Cannon
Gonna go way further than trying to make use of point blank or crucian roulette
Can't get the rager one-shot anyway without hand cannon
id replace point blank for hand cannon and reload speed to flak
yeah replacing both blessings for sugical hand cannon is an option too
yep
reload speed is ok i dont know if thered be any value in it since wep specialist auto reloads your revolver
I currently run focus target.
ah
its fine then
id do what puri said and replace both blessings for surgical/hand cannon
cause instead of volotile I might do blaze away and instead of the unarmoured enemies I do unyielding instead and keep specialists
@south spindle Deathspitter and Hit and Run?
With Fire Frenzy being an acceptable alternative?
acceptable
it's not really the console player themselves
I tried controller the other day and the new bindings is a nightmare
also you can connect keyboard on console too
mobility is dump
finesse is atk speed
as long as mobility is 62+ you're good cuz you hit max dodge amount
OH MY EMPEROR IS THAT
it's good now
the weapon doesn't feel like garbage after the rebalance
definitely viable but I don't know details since I haven't run shotguns for a long time now
Yeah I know tagging sucks on controller so I can't blame them here entirely given that the peripheral for the game is kinda doo doo
In my experience Flak Damage and Full Bore are must have for Lawbringer 🤌🏻
there is absalutely no need for this much cleave but holy hell does it work well. 
This build is amazing on the Kantrael shotgun! I imagine lawbringer cleave works well with this.
Why is the lazgun ammo counter the way it is?
scrap one of the stickers?
blaze away
@tall torrent finally got a Laspistol with good stats as well as dum dum 4 and ghost 4, used the build you recommended, it’s really neat but it’s just not my style. Will probably play it from time to time but it probably won’t be my go to loadout
What's the best MK for Infantry autogun btw?
Rate my gat
Needs infernus
need dum dumb
Nah infernus aint much value imo
but death spitter unfortunately must go
i get better numbers with infernus on most things
It’s good value on bosses, more than most other blessing really.
that actually survive long enough
for either to matter i mean
recon sux anyway tho
:^)
i have two both near perfectly rolled with infernus and dumdum anyway
So long as you got Dum Dum though you’re good.
😔
@serene sage hey
i jsut officially graduated my hard mode sigil. i saw u trying in there too
did u get it
(i saw him go at it for hours)
will u wear it with pride
Gotta wear it with humility
I like the aesthetic of the class ribbon too much
what blab said. just wear it with humility
Y'know the 50 missions for each class rewards
Though that insignia with the event portrait is quite a vibe
They mesh well together
Did you get it?
what blessings on kant shotgun?
best head hunter variant?
want to make a dmr carachter
DMR vraks 7
ive been double tapping Crushers and reapers with this revolver but i failed to take into account the vet special lets be 1 shot them.
its not even a good revolver.
I like that you have an insigna that actually feel challenging (for now) to get
im only missing 4 frames too. 
A dozen times to just get an insignia? Shit. Fatshark really needs to pony up with some cosmetics. You should get a whole ass outfit and tons of plasteel for that.
Has the shop rotated yet?
I want the difficulty, but a dozen times?! Ugh lol
I dont care about the plasteel myself. Insigna was cool
The Hardmode one?
im close to finishing the interruption frame i think it is? and ive hardly got any on the Repair and investigation missions since noone really likes doing those and i just do quickplay all the time unless i see the repair or investigation mission up on Damnation.
Yeah
It was annoying cause I had to run Uprising 5 times
To unlock
Some bluberries always hit the bell cause they are curious
I did like a dozen tries on damnation. Without tp bell 
Despite me asking not to
Took me a dozen more to actually beat Hardmode
Pugs are so bad in melee focus matches
Sorry, that was for hardmode damnation. We had not unlocked tp
So run of shame a dozen times
I finally resorted to lfg here
Yeah, I actually had Darcy playing too but we couldn't carry the pug
First time i take ammo crate seriously 
Maybe I'm just bad
Who knows
But anyway, not touching that map again with a 10ft pole
You need build adjustment that is for sure
Auric T5 is more fun ngl
Yeah had to make a special build for it
My sunder ps is def more useful than bm ps on that one 
The hardest thing for me is the ranged boss plasma insta delete shield
Otherwise it would have been a cakewalk
i tested this one, kinda slaps. feels like old PS. 
But shield break is strong, who knew lol
Hardest thing is elite ambush
Trying to dodge back and it does not move 
Mauler overhead from down town
Shotgunner/stalker spawn from other side
also, one of the funniest things ive witnessed is a full squad of vets with similar build to mine which is CR and damage focused do an Assassination mission, get to the end, all of us were carrying the Columnus Mk V and got all stacks with close range from poxwalkers dropping down, his shield melted almost instantly. 
cr?
Crit Rate.
Actually now that I think about it
i would not call crits a build in itself
Columnus is probably better for that mode than plasma
Cause you just hose down bullets
that does sound like a good run
It’s not the entire thing but it’s a crucial part of the build.
what is a good loadout for the new bosses in damnation? struggling with my revolver and power sword
Plasma is great for melee focus vet.
Boss damage and almost nothing else
It is great in general though
CAxe2 and Plasma for me
Honestly you need a good team more than a good loadout
Never felt plasma/ps was an issue for me. Mostly execution error
From the few games I played I actually struggled to keep up any buffs tied to enemy density because of how uncharacteristically laid back the director was
sadly i only play Vanilla so i dunno how much damage i actually do in 1 mag but if i use the vets special the damage per shot on Monstrocities and Unyielding weakspots with a crit is ramped up to 1600 per shot.
Ngl Vet is probably the worst class for the new boss. Run Field Improv and a chain weapon (they do very well against the bubble shields)
all im getting are amebas that dont know how to stay alive
i had 9 revives not even vet sthealth today in a match still lost
I'd go find a fireteam here to play with
good call
You defo want Voice of Command
its a must yeah
Yeah do yourself a favor and try lfg here for Hardmode
I tried a dozen or so games with pugs and failed every one
Vet has really good tool for this fight. Also survivalist is worst aura this time 
not even hardmode i just want ot beat damnation once get the reward and naver do these artificially ahrd bosses ever again
One time we were close, down to jsut 1 boss and I crashed kek
Twin bossfight do be interesting
Normal mode took me a few tries in pub but it is mostly down to mate quality yeah
Shared shield invuln so you gotta focus both to break shields
Maybe I'm just salty I wasted time unlocking/being dced near the end for hard mode
you should see tesco zealoty i get that try to parry the sword bish with their chin
and die
people need to get used to twin bosses
Just mid
might take a 5 days break to let the community get used to the gas part
Ppl need to learn melee for real this time
Well I'm never going back
ALSO i put wound on my build for the 1st time in forever 

Auric T5 HISTG is more fun for me.
Did not need at the end but well
My stim addiction stops me from using it
I put on wound then take it off bc the gas nades make revive near impossible 
(I get bored in non mael auric)
also why the fuck cant we shoot grenades on the floor?!
Bc fack u
i never fail to laugh when someone is blocking a Pogryn or Chaos Spawn then back directly into a Daemon Host.
Sucks for me
magickal ahh nades
porygon

i need your help gentlemen
me and my sub 400 weapons
whats the correct build for damnation to do this twins thing
i was up till 3am trying to do it
team kept going down
is team comp important or is there a niche build that i should be going
VoC, field improv are good.
Melee is good, you won't be shooting that much.
First win was a bolter and powersword
Save for when they are unshielded
But God help you if you want to keep trying pugs
gotcha
Get close and unload a salvo into their heads
Just look around in lfg channels and save your sanity
I take survivalist because I dump mags like I brought survivalist
man i had a run this close...this close but i ran out of ammo and the Raret zealot would not put down the ammo box
i was this close to be free
this 🤏 close
hot take: on the bosses you should win in malice and heresy before jumping in damnation
tired of people that dont know the moves of the boss dying in the gas over and over
we love to see people who never put down their equipment crate
love em ah?
clearly they’re saving them to take home
people also gotta get used to popping stims at the slightest inconvenience instead of forgetting anything that isnt health stim
but those are still new
giving players stims or crates is a waste imo
half of em dont even rrealize they have them
Wait, since when do we like field improv? I've never used it.
field improv is neat but i wouldn’t go out of my way to get it
2x healing speed + corruption cleanse + mild toughness regen can be clutch in a bad fight
True I guess
free grenades from ammo boxes is more niche but its there too
i love using the speed stim with my psyker so i can traverse the map slightly faster. 
bring an ogryn pal with nuke nades to throw 4 nukes 
I usually run this with a revolver and chain sword. Would you drop longshot for example for field improv?
And there is no way I'm dropping scavenger. It's needed
not a bad idea, your crit bullets will probably kill most things at any range anyway
Yeh I tend to have a lot of overkill damage
is high stopping power good for a mk2 helbore?
Does the special assignment give you anything?
Stopping power is just damage, but on a different statline. So yes, it's important on everything that has it.
As is penetration, to a /slightly/ lesser extent
thx g
But do it give anything tho?
If it don't give me like a t shirt that says 'I killed the spooky big evil bad guy's hands, and all I got was this lousy t shirt' I'm not doing it.
Inb4 Karnak Twins is actually a title
Is there such an updated table with the new weapons?
Hi guys
didnt seem to give me anything except some new dialogue when i returned
unless i missed something
I’m new to the dark tide server
Looking for some advice
MFW someone thinks the discord is a good place for advice.
FR tho, what do you wanna know?
How’s all this gear for a revolver vet build
I’ve been able to take on some auric
But I’m not entirely sure
Also
Would anyone be able to point me in the direction of where to get into a strike team
Looking to try that new content with the secret hard mode
If you can do an auric with it, and not feel like you're being carried - it works.
Revolver is very strong, it's hard to go wrong with it.
Dunno much about the new content... Just tried to get into one, took too long to load in and ended up spawning in at 5 hp with no revives left
is this like a best perks and blessing type thing for each weapons
Lasted a good 50 seconds before being hit once and eating shit
Revolver is plenty good and the shovel is poor. Try to get Uncanny tier 3/4 and Skullcrusher tier 3/4. Should take regenerating frags if you’re bringing a shovel honestly.
christ
I have decided the new special assignment is something to with friends, because everyone queing is a full on smoothbrain
Imagine not understanding that you get one (the melee) low, then hard focus gun guy before chipping the last bit of HP from the melee
I figured that out in literally 5 seconds
But no let's fuckin' juggle their shields untl half of the squad's dead.
Yeah I think the hard mode is for teams can't do it with no communication or roles setted
🤣
I have the regen perk on all my sets I think is very useful
didnt most of vet chat already finish hard mode twins
is the devil claw parry usable/devent vs the sword boss?
Fuck no, I haven't cleared Hard Mode Damnation Twins yet 
do not worry it isnt hard for vet chat
everybody does it like nothing, so just ask for advice here
bunch of lovely lil 🤓 's
I'd be lucky if anyone of them were in the #vox-lfg-apac region
the good thing is theres many strats
Is there any good build on stub revolver?
weapon specialist builds
ty
🫂
stay stronk bro
im in that same box
@sand oracle its actually easier to forgo any timing of the shields and constantly down the brother with the plasma gun
without letting him even throw a single mine
I have a plasma sword that does 1/4th of their shield every special stab
Power sword*
Blah
then yeah, that's the best way
I didn't have trouble with it when I figured it out.
if he throws a few just trigger them immediately to clear any area denial
i see
But yeah... I got their shields off every time - it was rare that anyone else even helped, instead of just hindered us.
well best bet is to pretty much keep that guy down. the rest is up to u
if ur team chooses to time it but lets him throw like 20 mines all over the place, and nobody clears it right away, then it gets out of control and a shotgunner or a mutie is going to slam someone in to it.
or heck the bosses themselves will knock u in to them lol
^
You really need to thin out the mines, otherwise they pile up because they don't despawn
They only disapper when you trip them and they explode
If you have toughness, you can shrug off the mine explosion so long as you skirt the edge.
Ye
because u might notice something about that boss' AI
if ur close to him, u can trigger him in to an attack loop where he keeps trying to kick u
and if u just down him on repeat in seconds, the rest of ur team will have all the space they need
no need to time the shield in that case
that's the better strat when working with strangers
I didn't think about keeping in Rodin's face so he doesn't get to shoot his Plasma Gun (that obliterates Toughness near-instantly)
yeah there's many ways to do this
im just saying my favourite way that doesnt require a lot of thought
Should probably work just fine for me 
really wish we could shoot the pox mines
theres probably even more braindead ways
it make sense to
I kept at it for approximately 3-4 hours cumulatively over yesterday and a few hours ago, I have not had good luck with the LFGs here.
maybe active contributors in vet chat can help u better
gonna be honest, it's quiet in here today. i have no idea where they are
I like your thinking
@bitter turtle u there?
That's part of the problem, yeah. I assume most of them would be in #vox-lfg-nasa or #vox-lfg-emea, since I live in #vox-lfg-apac times
lol my run had mixed regions
he didnt gave a shit about 170 latency, it somehow worked
im guessing good teammates trump low latency
A better player than me, probs 
Since I swing wildly from being the first man dead to being the last man alive
Which modes do you for having better visibility and less cluttering? And how did you setup your HUD?
modes?
Probably means mods
I have trouble with sensory overload so too much info on the screen is bad thats why i need mods
ppl be working and sleeping and doing other stuff yo
oh shit mrcraime is here, he can solve all ur problems
I will probably do a few runs later today. And considering am EU time, later means LATER 
At the end of the day, it is genuinely the hardest dt content released so far
Maybe playing Vet with my scuffed aim is a bad idea?
nah
Mods i meant yes
Precision is overrated. Movement and melee dance is what separate good and bad player
I can't aim and vet is working out fine for me
which one is better? tyvm
this aint csgo you don't need a good aim
im a melee vet so yeah aim not necessary
Just get a good plasma gun and run shout tag build
arguable. Left has free PC4 so you have 2 locks but one "wasted" perk. the other one has maniac and BM that can be locked
the first one
yeah really hard to pick
I would take left cuz you can switch blessings
I just stay away from sniper weapons currently using a plasmagun but i wonder is Shotgun vet a thing?
I just stay away from sniper weapons currently using a plasmagun but i wonder is Shotgun vet a thing?
Yes shotgun vet is a build currently
the result
You can look up shotgun commander on YT it's what I use
does this mean that you cant shoot straight?
anyone know what finesse do?
pretty good
Very support like
critical hit damage
I don't drink that much
You can inspect a weapon in your inventory and hover over the stat bar.
eh ill live, tks guys
That will tell you what that stat affects.
Could you dm me a build template or link ? Im currently not at home so i dont want it to get lost
Finesse affects attack speed, weakspot damage, and critical damage on melee weapons.
I need more testing with it against the twin boss mission. So far no good results there. But any other auric damnation mission and it works just fine
On ranged weapons it affects weakspot damage and crit damage.
||have you SEEN Tom Hardy? How can ANYONE!?|| It's not that hard albeit I've been playing FPSes since HL2
Seriously though: this game is more of a marathon than a 100-meter dash. Precision and damage are important but at the end of the day what you need is limit the damage you take
aye vs the bosses the ususal if i oneshot it it cant damamge me dont work
Shotgun is probably not good against the twins
Just run shout and use it before ressing
circumstances notwithstanding, wait, maybe circumstances ARE withstanding
Those boss are the 1st time in a while where ppl need to adjust their loadout and take unusual talent to get through
Well, "unusual" as far as recommended picks go 
Case in point, survivalist might be the worst aura for this
VOC pgun be like:
nah unusual is right, I adjusted my build so hard I went zealot
Vet is fine on this IMO
movespeed aura meta to run to the ventilation fan? 
I just went my pgun voc and uh yeah stiiill good
Both movespeed and damage are fine
Show me that hard mode shiny
Although I did get caught in the gas for a liiitle long once
how I got my damn shiny, stil need hardmode
Then again, teams matter more than talent
Hell yeah I got it well damnation
3 zealots and my vet
Can't show it now but les goo
Got the hard mode at 3am. Had to grind it

We had a good run, then 10 or so bad, then finally
aha yeah same, until we figured out the right way for our personal team
I uh, ran 1 diff 4, and 1 damnation and got it, whew I git lucky my bf knew what he was doing already
I died to shotgunner at the end
Was left at 1hp 99.9% corruption for the last minute or so
i was smoke nade, with field improv
Still got it though
Oh I will say I died twice and the 2nd time I literally got one shot
I'm also unhinged and don't run extra wound 😌
I took one but it might not be meta
dont run extra wound, its not the right pick for this one anyway
Cuz the truth is, it is super hard to raise ppl
Yeah unless you got some invis it's really scary
No cover, both boss can push, tox grenade
i ran stam curios
I run uh, 2 toughness 1 hp now
THough those single bomber and flamer are OH SHIT moment
store reset coming you know what that means.
PLEASE 
Whaaat noo
oh wait cosmetics
only if we get kasrkin closed helmet
I bought the krieg set, and that's my biggest purchase
VOSTROYAN SKIN IS THE SUPERIOR SKIN
Careful
They'll add it as a separate item
Worth 900
bruh i literally dont care at this point


just give me actual new skins not just reskins
I wonder how long the special assignement will stay. If it is not permanet
Probably next year
Until next week at least
literally me every week i see reskins instead of literally anything else
When do we get new skins?
You should be careful what you wish for.
Fatshark seems to have a new standard of low quality for butchering skins and charging more for them.
Just look at what happened to Vet's Krieg outfit.
I dont care how janky it is so long as its original
what kills me is seeing reskins for full price
Ah, well if you want to just spend money then don't let me stop you.
ya gotta spend money to make money
skull helmet with dead-eye infantry body is 
Sure.
Bloodpact armor would sweet
Is there Skin Rotation Right now?
in an hour i think
pray for the kasrkin skin
wait
I thought its 11:00 AM Sweden time for Skin Rotation (based it on fatshark's location)
(Its 11:00 am in sweden rn)
or they changed it?
Not sure, should already have cycled
y'all better post screenshots of the store I gotta go to a christmas party
uhm... what to do with this one? 🙈
weak spot -> maniacs I suppose?
I have no blessings to replace (yet); I haven't played my veteran in ages
it definitely looks good on paper
no it looks good on a screen
Would this a good build for shotgun Vet? https://youtu.be/tGNFgFlW6Pw?si=jhDMPtKeEXvqgVbw
BUILD MADE IN PATCH 14
Welcome to 'RealAsianRobot'! In this Warhammer 40,000: Darktide Veteran Sharpshooter Build Guide, we'll delve into an aggressive playstyle that'll have you dominating the battlefield. Utilizing the powerful Kantrael Shotgun and the 'Infiltrate' ability, this build allows you to go toe-to-toe with specialists and elites, l...
Pretty sure this is, at the very least, outdated because the veteran tree has been slightly changed since then
Nodes repositioned
Im looking different builds but i cant tell which are good which are bad? Shotgun aside im looking for good easy to use Plasmagun build
for Plasma Gun just go with the shout build
let me see what mine was... maybe not optimal because I never watched guides to make it, but I run it in damnations / maelstroms
Can you dm me that build?
I run two variations depending on whether there's another Vet with survivalist aura on the team or not
Can you dm me both?
yes, check steam guides
secret bell puzzle to enable hard mode fight
with no respawns
hey what build gave u the first hard mode twins clear
Im not at home thats why i would neey it as dm if that is possible?
im curious how each one of us cleared with various builds
…i haven’t done hard mode
i will be most impressed if u used a plasma lol

Adjust depending on your preference, I know some ppl like to get the 30% reload speed talent at the top, but Plasma has a large magazine so I try to reload during 'breaks' between waves where the speed doesn't matter
But thx
yeah sure
Yes I just passed it on damnation and it feels not suffering enough
Thanks👍
Didn’t know that reward was hidden in the insignia page
hey, only took 4 tries this time to find a team and get it hard mode in pub, nice
Guess I did get better
Damnation Karnak as a vet is cancer
Yet just passed it with 3 plasma vets
Recon las so bad now these days
Vet has really good tool for this fight
Might not be the strongest, but definitely not weak
I’m after a really good recon las for ages but damnation as vet is a struggle
To obtain higher tier loot
I notice compared to the other 3 classes damnation is EZ but as soon as it’s veteran it’s a mad grind
my guy just use an IAG if you're looking for full-auto builds, Recon just aint the way anymore
I swapped out a wound for health which is +28% and max stam too made some difference but overall still weak 😆
The Columnus mk5 is the recon but better anyways.
Is it possible to roll a 90% in any stat category ranged?
Or does it lock at a certain %
Highest gear score I’ve got is like 80% 2-3 times in categories
Honestly though, shooter vet isn't that bad on auric. You get plenty of Tgen and maps have more than a few spots that help deal with the nothing personal spawns, IAGs have surprisingly good ammo eco and a well built columnus doesn't really need deadshot in my experience, so you can save on needing to max out stam
No. The maximum is 80%.
The highest base rating a weapon can have is 380.
onslaught columnus scares me
Fair enough
Sweet cheers provides visual cues better now when looking at stats
The recons are vastly underperforming compared to IAG's currently, and also compared to most weapon lines too. Highly advise avoiding them altogether until they get SUBSTANTIAL buffs. Just pick up well rolled ones in the shop until that happens.
Bro indeed it’s noticeable and also strange that like when I play since update I can kinda “feel” how weak they are oh well pew pew can be locked to heresy and below then… that puts into perspective excellent
Other hand i brunt ordered plasma for 80% in 2 stat thermal res and dmg haha plus others are good so I’ll rotate will with that
store time people lets see if we got something good or some discount pirate/gang stuff again
It’s rogue trader-esque gear isn’t it?
Since that game came out
...
hmm
Do i run Toughness or hp curios or a mix?
did they reschedule it for tomorrow?
True I’m in Australia as well no rotation
maybe taking longer because they’re cooking something extra special
mix
you can also get like 5% toughness as sub buffs on relics
question was movement speed nerfed?
the aura? no
no i mean in general
also no, it shouldn’t
Honestly been struggling to figure out how best to deal with recons due to the existence of shock trooper and onslaught. The potential for infinite ammo is just simply too good, so they have to soft-cap how often it procs, but ends up leaving it in an odd spot due to its low damage. Meanwhile, onslaught fills quickly and with crit builds allows for decent ranged rending, which puts it into this damned if you do, damned if you dont situation on balancing it
@frail topaz yeah I think they changed it tomorrow
Oh yeah, about 3x the ttk is very noticeable. 1/3-1/4 the bodyshot dps of finesse weapons, which means the disparity gets even bigger with headshots in the mix. Here's a gray columnus vs a built 6d which generously has +maniacs as well, so all its perks and blessings are dps relevant.
2 Hp 1 Toughness ?
probs just my mind playing tricks on me
1 hp 1 wound 1 thoughness
can’t play, wasting time at work
or one with stamina plus 3
I wonder if in exchange for losing some of its damage mods, greatly increase the reserve capacity, basically turning itself into the chaff eliminator 9000, but against anything midly armor its going to struggle, even with onslaught
aw
Like getting rid of the rotation and give us the chance to buy whatever we want whenever we want it?
what ringing that bell isnt hard mode twins?
unlikely
Sad
FOMO too powerful
i was referring to guardsman who hasnt cleared hard mode twins
That’s crazy
a disappointment to us all
lol im just joking anyway, as usual
Got the hard mode twice for now
it is hard
hardish
First time definitely the hardest
i mean i noticed that with my build i was melting their shields
Oh yeah, that came out. How do you activate the hard mode?
ring bells
Just perform exterminatus on the planet then you don’t have to worry about difficulty
I don't know if that is a thing anymore. If they still doing it is because it works, but I would buy tons of stuff if they were active. I usually see people with cool cosmetics, go to the shop to buy and they are not in the rotation. Then I dont buy/spend aquilas.
there a bell you ring at the start of the match
all 4 players need to ring that bell
Only if one player at least comleted hard mode
not a true completion but rather unlocked the bell sequence
I think you do need to beat it. Not in damnation though
really? interesting
oh well, we all have our sigil now
unsure if the bosses are limited time
I would not know for sure I beat it in damnation first after a dozen of walk of shame 
Got that sweet sweet plasteel as consolation price
lol
because for me, our team always had the bells despite nobody having had the sigil yet. only damnation clears at best
that's with random ppl
Oh ffs r/darktide got a big chuckle out of me with this https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/18i0k6m/i_really_like_rinda_karnak/
Bunch of weirdos
her blitzing around is kinda cool tho
She is not the most threatening part of the fight
she isnt
she's just stylish
lol which is cool
if they keep making bosses harder than these two, this game is gonna be real fun
somehow I hate the new laspistol
@wanton dawn did u clear with ur usual plasma somehow
cuz i have no idea how u reloaded
i mean on twins hard
I do some animation cancelling and I try to do it during the vent event
i tried plasma but i couldnt find time to fit in the reloads
so i used my filthy meta revolver
Also, I have grenade support so i can use grenade and voc to create space
But it is still melee centric
oh right ur that guy who CC's thrice as hard as any other build
the guy who runs shredder frags
The build in question is adjusted. I take improved ammo box and I tell no one about it so I have 15 frags available during this fight, no including other regen 
Do not sleep on frag on this mode
Anyway, plasma reload has rarely been a big issue as long as ppl are not down
It is mostly a matter of finding space and time to reload safely
Even on hard mode, there are windows
i believe u, im not a plasma pro in any way
i see ppl juggling bolter in hard mode and i just can't do it. im bad
If you use Psword, I highly recommend using sunder over BM
For this fight, I rate sunder way higher than BM
im that rashad guy
Not an axe dude myself.
Yessir
wth puri was here?
I’m something of a devil claw IV enjoyer
sweet
what
Standard Issue Shovel or Catachan Sword
Standard shovel for veteran, devil claw IV for psyker since I’m a gun psyker, bully club 1 for ogryn
shovel is a bit of a surprise ngl. spamming heavy is enough?
this for veteran? jay or nay?
Don’t even need to do heavy since you can stack up rending to 100% and they get melted by your teammates. Psyker I just go raking fire with the Columnus disrupt destiny and gaze and I just melt them.
@bleak tangle it’s the most mobile melee weapon in the game even beating the combat knife
Nah, it doesnt beat combat knife, but its up there as one of the better ones
Dodge distance I apologize @south spindle
so u need Uncanny strike, no wonder I feel like I can't kill things with it, it super good at keep the hoard away that's all i feel when use it
Combat knife is still king of mobility with its movement tech
Decimated and uncanny strike is what I use.
Skullcrucher locked in another slot in mine already
Build dependent, you can get away without it if you have Rending Strikes to a certain degree and run SC/Deci', but for general use Deci'/Uncanny is better
Not the same for new Shovels mind
MKIII wants Thrust/Uncanny
Not sure about the other one, not got a good one yet
old one might serve me better because I want to use it during hoard push.
I already run plasma as anti-armour
Honestly best build for doing that fight is Standard Shovel + Graia BAG crit build
Onslaught skill build?
Can use the gun for pretty much everything given you'll also have an ammo crate down at somepoint an it deletes Void Shield, Shovel is just there to deal with trash an move around
Ye
BAG??
Onslaught, Deadshot, DucknDive, all that good shit, load up on a couple stam curios an you can wipe one of the shields before the fight even gets going
Braced Autogun
Highest RoF
I guess good RPM help stacking brittleness
man, I missed the day that Agri brace is the shit
Agri is still pretty dece
Ye it still fucks
now the question is will 3 millions odos docket land me a good graia
Agri' is the "I will not use anything but gun this whole mission" BAG
^I feel insulted by this statement because it's true
guess i'm using columnus in the meantime, Haldron f__ked me
I think 20% Damage (Carapace Armored Enemies) is good for heavy hits with this ax on Scab Mauler and Crusher.
the Emperor wills it, also it would be too good. can't have that.
Thunderous worth it?