veteran-class

[finite imp]

Yeah missing them also does

[tardy plaza]

because egomaniacs would see the green circles and say 'haha shitters see? get carried'

[pulsar drift]

Not having it also creates toxicity

[swift ingot]

Me having the most ranged kills as a fucking slayer in vt2

[pulsar drift]

its just bad players

[pulsar drift]

mb toxic players

[tardy plaza]

No dont worry I am the same way

I just dont say anything in chat/voice

[pulsar drift]

no wonder why chat block is so popular

lol

[tardy plaza]

i stay silently judgemental because i dont want to create beef with people i'll probably play with in the future

[finite imp]

I just play 20 KHZ frequencies into the mic

[tardy plaza]

idc if you're bad, just know im badmouthing you to myself

[finite imp]

Only zoomers can hear it

[pulsar drift]

XDDDD

[finite imp]

Dog whistled

Literally

That'll teach em

[pulsar drift]

its a thing with co-op games

worst in mmos

here at least better from what I have seen from lostark

ppl there are toxic af

at least we can block and never seen the fucker again

[finite imp]

People are just not good. Eradicate em

[lofty lintel]

lol same

[pulsar drift]

usually ill just say to myself "these ppl sucks" and quit

thats my balance

wont rly block anyone unless theyre the toxic ones lol

[swift ingot]

I’m more like “these guys suck, welp time to carry”

[pulsar drift]

I have blocked I think 3-4 players

[swift ingot]

I haven’t blocked anyone

[pulsar drift]

becuz they were either super annoying or just toxic

throwing f bombs at ppl for no reasons

[celest vine]

Ive started to get into auric to avoid dipshit team mates

[pulsar drift]

good move

[pine snow]

i'd say nowhere is safe from dipshit teammates

[pulsar drift]

but spoiler alert

is the same tbh

[celest vine]

Theres less of them in auric

[pulsar drift]

there are good ones

[silk wagon]

whats this thing mean?

[celest vine]

💀

[swift ingot]

That shows how many folks are in coherency

[pulsar drift]

It means ur team are smart enough to keep together instead of fucking speed running map and died from trappers

[celest vine]

Had one guy taunt me about going down after being cornered by 8 crushers

[silk wagon]

oh LMAO thank you

[tardy plaza]

Honestly I dont even quit

[pine snow]

its something that doesnt exist

[celest vine]

Then he proceeded to die 3 times

[tardy plaza]

because I want to eventually be good enough that I can basically solo carry

[swift ingot]

No prob

[pine snow]

i swear coherency is a myth

[celest vine]

What a chad

[tardy plaza]

So playing with bad randoms is good training

[celest vine]

“Lmao going down use shout nerd”

Dies three times

[pulsar drift]

imo just go to the chat here and lf a team

[celest vine]

[pulsar drift]

it takes 5 mins max and most of the times doing great

[pulsar drift]

Loner zealots be like:

[tardy plaza]

Nawh I only pug

[pine snow]

idk why but this game loves lagging to high hell whenever im on psyker and i just keep blowing up bc i cant manage peril when i think im at 70% but im actually only at 100

[tardy plaza]

i had enough playing w people on official discord with GTFO

[pine snow]

proceeds to complain when they die about no one being in coherency

[finite imp]

Get the fuck outta here

[pulsar drift]

but tbh I do play a lot of randoms just to chill

[finite imp]

This dude is pulling legs and chains

[pine snow]

[pulsar drift]

sometime is great to play with mid level palyers who may be not the best player but quite chill

for example sometime when I just two shots the DHs ppl were like

nice

ppl here wont rly surpised cuz they knew the build

ppl in randos oh yea sometime showing off feels greta

[silk wagon]

nah i legit just started the game today haha

[finite imp]

Welcome brother

[pulsar drift]

Welcome to the world of wrap

[silk wagon]

for the emperor

[finite imp]

I hope you stay

Let not the trials of the vet deter you from the path of righteousness

[pulsar drift]

Where you would see getting thrown out of the map, net going through the wall, silent poxbuster

And fire

[frank ether]

best to just make a few friends and never have to suffer randoms

for pretty much any online game

this will improve your experience by like uh... %53491852342 percent

[pulsar drift]

Trueee

[acoustic wyvern]

You guys are awful

He needs the reel darktide experience

[sly haven]

whats generally the best claw sword

[acoustic wyvern]

Loot all the ammo even if you are near full. Do not press anything and if you see friendlies going down, contemplate getting new ones

[vague charm]

worth?

[frank ether]

yes

[silk wagon]

real

[acoustic wyvern]

Be a selfish prick, the emperor is dead and is just a battery. There is no real religion and the inquisition is a myt----

[frank ether]

you can replace no respite with surgical IV

and then use it as is or replace crit chance with %25 flak

either way easy godroll

[thick rose]

are any shotguns worth the time?

[tardy plaza]

Yes

[stark hollow]

blessed be the emperor. what should i change on this gun

[sonic skiff]

man

i do not like how much ogryns block sightlines

[stark hollow]

welp i guess just use plasma

it goes through friendlies right?

[sonic skiff]

dont like plasma

[stark hollow]

shame

all the builds i see for mk X laspistol say infernus

is it really a meme or is it actually good

[whole moon]

I'm running Infernus and DumDum on mine and it rocks. Raking Fire also good

[stark hollow]

for my perk do i change infested damage to crit damage?

[finite imp]

Never and I mean NEVER scan anything.

[stark hollow]

cause in psykanium im consistantly proccing infernus

[finite imp]

Even if it costs the run

[stark hollow]

so means im critting a lot

[tiny summit]

crit dmg math is bad, better to just get a different armor type

[stark hollow]

i do decent flak damage so carapace or maniac?

[hollow cloak]

vld lasgun+krak nade+ powersword can kill literally everything in the game

[whole moon]

When you see crit damage proc it's a normal hit damage plus a crit bonus.
The crit damage perk only applies to the bonus part of the damage

[stark hollow]

i see maniac is decent but how is carapace

[peak sierra]

mealstrom mission reward, lookout

seriously fat shark needs to buff the mission drops, a level 25 would throw this in the garbage let alone 30

the LOWEST rated gun each time, lower than a green lol

gonna have to send them a medical bill for the carpal tunnel it gives me when I have to scroll down my entire list each time I get a drop

[tiny summit]

gotten purples lower than blues

[forest blaze]

I’d prefer to just get a plasteel bundle 😂

[dusk idol]

after some testing with the old chainaxe after the changes, it feels better but it still needs a tiny tweak

something i don't understand is why heavy 3 is tied to the light chain

[peak sierra]

yeah there should be an option at the end of a mission to turn the reward into plasteal, sadly it might mean missing out on a blessing on the off chance it has a useable one

[dusk idol]

and after light 3 of all t hings

[whole moon]

I got a perfect Gold Gorgon Mission reward last week. Sure it's not just RNG and luck hates you right now?

[dusk idol]

make heavy 3 > heavy 2 and buff the power on the push attack and it'd be solid

[forest blaze]

Does bleed still tick onslaught?

[dusk idol]

no

[acoustic wyvern]

You guys really like onslaught huh

[bitter turtle]

its a good talent for automatics, so why not

and nah it got nerfed

no more ticks affecting it

[stark hollow]

ok changed to maniac, should i go infernus 4 or ghost 4

[acoustic wyvern]

Infernus is still hot garbage

Grab a utility blessing better

[stark hollow]

ah idk why all the builds for the laspistol say infernus

[acoustic wyvern]

Ngl, the mkx already deals alot of smg

Dmg

Not as fast as the other pistol too

If you still want dmg, go raking fire

I will personally take ghost tho

[stark hollow]

im guessing laspistol dosent have blazing or deathspitter?

[acoustic wyvern]

Sadly it doesnt haha

Dum dum and raking fire

[stark hollow]

so this would be essentially perfect

i will just move a wee bit slow

[acoustic wyvern]

Congrats. You're even more viable for auric damn

[stark hollow]

unless carapace or flak is better than maniac

[acoustic wyvern]

Imo maniac

[forest blaze]

Maniac good

Flamers

[acoustic wyvern]

You wanna kill chargers more and alot of enemies are maniac

And chargers are plenty

[dusty ferry]

Infernus seems to be a pick because the heavy lastpistol is your crit gun

But IDK, ghost has been much better as a choice, and dumdum sustains the gun well itself

[forest blaze]

People still take serrated talent or is that a dumper now that it doesn’t proc onslaught?

[stark hollow]

this is my build for the laspistol

[acoustic wyvern]

By the timenyou stack 12 stacks with mkx las pistol, enemy will be like a hairs breadth to death

[stark hollow]

is it aight?

[dusty ferry]

It's an okay choice, don't rraly you use it though

Really*

[novel stone]

Would sunder or brutal momentum be better on the mark 6 power sword

[acoustic wyvern]

Yea its good. I would swap out for the emperor tho

[dusty ferry]

The new one does a lot of damage, not sure its worth to run infernus

[acoustic wyvern]

Yea i tried it multiple times ystd

[stark hollow]

what should i go

[acoustic wyvern]

Infernusbis just hot garbage fornit

Uh

Hmm

[dusty ferry]

[acoustic wyvern]

Top left perk

[stark hollow]

longshot?

[acoustic wyvern]

More dmg the further you are from enemies

Yea

[stark hollow]

ah thanks

[acoustic wyvern]

This way you'll always have bonus dmf

Dmg*

[keen coyote]

Which shotgun is the good one, my gamers?

[acoustic wyvern]

I really like the kantrael

[dusty ferry]

Depends. Agripinna is great as a slug shotty for dingle targets

[acoustic wyvern]

Its a mini stub revolver for short to mid range

[dusty ferry]

Kantrael is great too, and its special can burn hordes kinda

I don't know about Lawbringer

[orchid nova]

Agripnea feels bad unless you take a lot of reload talents

Kantrael feels a lot better, but it's held back by it's ammo count

[whole moon]

Shotty? Last I read that special had infinite cleave too. Unless it's changed love those corridors

[acoustic wyvern]

You have to run scavenger with kantrael

Like

No buts

Your ammo will suffer

[dusty ferry]

I don't remember about the cleave

But it's a workable special

[tall torrent]

What perks for standard shovel

[gray belfry]

Wasn't skullcrusher good?

Oh perks. Flak maniac

[tall torrent]

Perk, not blessing

I can only pick one

[gray belfry]

Or unarmored for hordes I'd imavine

Of the 2 flak might get more mileage. Give both a go and see how it plays

[dusty ferry]

What perks does yours have currently

[tall torrent]

8% poxwalker
15% block efficiency

[gray belfry]

Oof

[tall torrent]

Take a swing 4
Uncanny 4

[dusty ferry]

Ouch

Honestly go carapace/flak

Either perks are open to be replaced

[gray belfry]

Reckon might be better to take take a swing off and build another

[dusty ferry]

^ that too

[tall torrent]

I already earned

[gray belfry]

Uncanny then lmao

[dusty ferry]

They asked perks

[tall torrent]

That earned too

I have most of the blessings earned

I think I’ve spent majority of my resources just collecting any un-earned blessings for vet

[gray belfry]

I know I'm just saying if they don't have the blessings rip em off and build another

But yeah flak or carapace.

If in doubt can't go wrong with flak/maniac

Whatever you find the bigger pain

[south garnet]

Sunder is pointless with BM around, anyone who tries to convince you there's any point in taking sunder is proactively working on sabotaging you and probably working diligently to destroy your life, family and career as well

[dusty ferry]

They are praying on your downfall

[novel stone]

I understand

[dusty ferry]

Power cycle and rampage/BM

[novel stone]

Someone told me to use sunder, next day my dog died

[dusty ferry]

ThTs an ideal pairing

[novel stone]

Not a coincidence

[dusty ferry]

I am very sorry for your loss

[novel stone]

Just a joke dw lmao

[gray belfry]

T4 rampage and pc my beloved

[dusty ferry]

I am so tempted to just

Sorry

[novel stone]

Ok fine mf my dogs actually dead

Feel better now?

[dusty ferry]

WAIT THAT IS NOT ANY BETTER

[novel stone]

And I have a power sword with sunder

What could be worse

[whole moon]

I am going to leave now and go cuddle my dog

[novel stone]

@dusty ferry you did this

Not me

[south garnet]

I have like seven dead dogs

[novel stone]

@south garnet thx btw

[south garnet]

... historically, I mean, not currently

[novel stone]

Sure

Can I see your basement

[gray belfry]

[south garnet]

You may not

[dusty ferry]

[south garnet]

[novel stone]

[dusty ferry]

What the dog doin

[novel stone]

Being hit by a car

And using sunder on a power sword

[south garnet]

Slow car

Dogs make the worst decisions when it comes to darktide crafting

[dusty ferry]

The dog ran out of stamina

[south garnet]

Toughness broken

[novel stone]

Dog had 2 stamina bars

[dusty ferry]

On their last wound even

[south garnet]

Holy revenant, then dog beats car

[dusty ferry]

Wait if cats have 9 lives
You assume they have 9 wounds

[south garnet]

[novel stone]

Dog held onto the grimores

[south garnet]

In that case I don't bother saving the dog

[novel stone]

Mf ruined the mission

Thanks for the help I'm heading out

[dusty ferry]

The extra ordo dockets was not worth the failure

Cya

[dusty ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-lethal-company-gif-681486503946056139

Said dog in question

[crude fiber]

didn't they buff the graia braced this patch? still feels pretty weak no?

[south garnet]

They did but I have no idea why anyone cares except that one guy who's been waiting to use his 380 graia brauto since he rolled it ten years ago. The only brauto worth using is agri

It's still not great

[dusty ferry]

Stick to agri braced

[crude fiber]

i like the columnus tho lol

big mag makes me happy

[dusty ferry]

The braced autos other than graia are better

[south garnet]

Colum Iag is so much better it's crazy

[dusty ferry]

Columnus is also good

But Agri dakka

[south garnet]

But fair, quantity has a quality all its own

[dusty ferry]

Agri dakka makes me go

[gaunt geyser]

Is that a new Agripinaa? I don't recall a stockless with a bayonet

Just got on the game for the first time in a bit last night; didn't look at all the new weapons

[crude fiber]

weapon customization mod

[dusty ferry]

No its weapon customization mod

[crude fiber]

still the same 3 braced

[dusty ferry]

Man got all the goods on all 3 braced

[gaunt geyser]

Ah, interesting mod. Looks nice, though

[tall torrent]

I’m like 1-2 off on some weapons’ full blessing collection and it’s pissing me off

[crude fiber]

im just trying to get all t4's lol

[tall torrent]

Chainsword t4 7/8
Power sword t4 5/7
Combat axe t4 7/9
DC sword t4 8/10
Helbore t4 5/6
Infantry lasgun t4 7/9

[crude fiber]

good thing most of the blessings are bad/niche anyway

[tall torrent]

I’m just collecting them

[woven olive]

i dont think allot of them are bad but they sure are niche
i mean the recent revolver is making it so crucian roulette is viable and that blessing was pretty useless before now

i think most blessings are just in limbo right now and just need something unique to help them out

[placid portal]

It's bad for zarona but agripinaa it's good

[woven olive]

yeah...the new revolver 🙃

[placid portal]

Bc surgical dont work well when your advantage is ammo and rof

Might as well use zarona

[flint garden]

can agripinaa even oneshot ragers

[placid portal]

No

Oh wait

Maybe

[flint garden]

trash

[placid portal]

Forgot if it does

[woven olive]

just between you me (and who ever is reading in silence) the agrpinaa could use a extra shot in the cylinder and maybe 25-50 extra base reserve ammo due to its low damage/penetration and its rapid fir style

[flint garden]

with zarona and focus fire i dont even need to hit heads to reach the same breakpoints

[placid portal]

Dont feel ammo hungry bc I am quite conservative with guns

The extra shot? Love it but that means they gotta remodel alot of things

[woven olive]

im conservative too but it takes like the whole thing to bring down a rager and 2 shots for a scab gunner (non crit head shots) so extra ammo would be nice imo

[placid portal]

Or have it show 5 rounds but load 6

[flint garden]

though hurts that im literally 20-50 damage away from oneshot body critting ragers with 0 focus fire

[placid portal]

[placid portal]

Sounds like a skill tree issue to me

[flint garden]

nah i have superiority complex

[keen wharf]

i gotta admit, this isnt bad, not as good as the Mk IV but still not bad.

[flint garden]

but the only damage perk i have is 8% elite damage

[placid portal]

Wym cheese hole sword got them perfect horizontals

[flint garden]

also like half a percent away from 2 shotting mauler bodies with only onecrit

[placid portal]

Lol

Nice

[keen wharf]

i like the first Heavy swing on the Mk IV since it 1 shots flamers, hounds, snipers, and can 2 shot Mutants if i hit the weak spot.

[placid portal]

Mk7 oneshots muties on heavy 1 on weakpoint

Kinda the same

[keen wharf]

not on my vet it doesnt. mines more focused on gun over melee.

[placid portal]

Ah well, whatever keeps you from dying it'll do

[woven olive]

i feel like the new revolver needs to lean into its attack speed and just give even better base crits maybe like 3%-5% more base crit chance idk its good and can be used but agripinaa feels like its one minor buff away from truly usable

[placid portal]

Dont want speed loader

Want moon clips

[thick rose]

what exactly is first target?

[placid portal]

Bonus Damage multiplier on 1st target

[woven olive]

controversial opinion: the speed loader makes the revolver a slower reload then the og zarona

[placid portal]

Really good on axes knives and any weapon with it

[woven olive]

mmmmm ads reload cancel

[placid portal]

Depends on what situational times

[thick rose]

how bad does it hurt this axe?

[placid portal]

From empty yes faster but partial reloading is faster

[woven olive]

the overall revolver reload across classes is bad though so regardless of a nice perc it is still kinda slow

cancel a full reload for a life saving shot is the most satisfying thing ever

[keen wharf]

Agripinaa Mk I kinda slaps, sad how i kind of prefer the Columnus Mk V now though.

[woven olive]

plus i mean... i can load the first shot cancel then reload with that perc...so...yeah your not wrong

[placid portal]

I have been using that one since patch 11 fun shit

[keen wharf]

i was one of the few that used it even in the Beta into release.

[placid portal]

Maybe FS should have agripinaa load 1 at a time when not empty and realod with speed clip on empty chambers

[placid portal]

Good stuff. Had fun shredding

[woven olive]

be good.....empty an unused shot is just ....WASTFUL

[thick rose]

what perks do I want on rashad?

[placid portal]

Brutal momentum and headtaker is a good stary

[woven olive]

maybe FS should make the agripinaa a separate weapon type like how there are auto rifles and braced auto rifles that way the new revolver can get a good line up of unique blesssings

[frank ether]

columnus has the best synergy with dumdum

[woven olive]

mmmhmmm

anyway even though this is vet chat i have gotten some use out of the new revolver with a zelot build along side the crusher for some good single target and CC

so yeah not bad but it could use a very minor buff or 2 for some more overall use feels like each class has to use a hyper specific skill treee build to get any real use outa the thing imo

[placid portal]

Fair enough

Btw crit perk on yeehaw cannon is based

[woven olive]

damage or chance....i know its chance but i still ask

[placid portal]

Yes chance

Bc crit weakpoint dmg perks are doo doo even on revolvers

Hmm yes i will deal 90 more damage on crits vs 200 more on enemies I want dead

[woven olive]

honestly with crucian and hand cannon when a crit come most will be dead

[placid portal]

But for revolver crit dmg is better than elite special damage iirc but unconfirmed

[placid portal]

Pew pew gaming

[flint garden]

why do i keep getting lights out hab dreyko

[placid portal]

Hab dreyko do be hell if bad at managing hoardes

Had to survive 2 mins alone bc team dieded

[woven olive]

so.......i hate to say it....but....to make sure i can deal extra damage to ALL type....yeah ima grab that weak spot just so i can get bosses crushers mutants and all things piss me even when i dont crit....i hate my self too for being so damge greedy

[placid portal]

Lol

I come to accept certain limits

[woven olive]

its bad...but i cant crit always and its nice to top off damage

[placid portal]

Minus counter sniping snipers at 30+ms with agripinaa revolver

Never say never

[woven olive]

weirdly enough i been getting good as a stealth vet so i can get close to snipers

and svae team amtes and do objectives

[placid portal]

Kinda easy to approach sniper regardless

[woven olive]

true but stealth is still good overal just needs a level of self restraint in order to not misuse it ande get the team killed lol

[placid portal]

I use it 24/7 to backstab bulwark and crushers

https://tenor.com/view/behind-you-spy-team-fortress2-gif-11451597

[woven olive]

idk i also been testing weapon specialist out with the new revolver not for crits but due to the reloade speed and auto refill into "mag" when swapping

[placid portal]

Not good enough

Focus target helps with BPs more imo

Really big money

[woven olive]

tru but but when ever i use weapon specialist its for melee builds so my revolver is more a back up if a rager comes swinnging

and the new one can be a good responce weapon in a pinch

[placid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/indiana-jones-shoot-harrison-ford-nope-gif-11523430

[woven olive]

mmm hmm

[placid portal]

Rager vs revolver matchups

[woven olive]

idk i feel like the partial reload plus those modifiers for weapon specialist really help the new revolver especialy with how i discribed it

[placid portal]

Tru but still need to load 2 shots to kill

Which is 10 stacks for a rager swap kill on empty

[woven olive]

at least one shot filled in before i reload and ill be good
like i said faster reload from both partial reload and that other modifier for weapon specialist

i was thinking of fleeting fire

[flint garden]

won but like seriously i couldnt see past 2 inches in front of me the whole time

[eternal venture]

Lights Out actually puts me to sleep

as in I get sleepy playing it, not that it's boring

[woven olive]

budum tish

[eternal venture]

so I avoid it when I can lol

it's true!!!

[junior grail]

Lights Out would be more fun with wandering Daemonhosts

[wet moon]

does the Mk3 shovel with thrust and uncanny need rending stacks to oneshot crushers or does it 1-hit raw?

[eternal venture]

Vent Purge is Glaucoma Simulator 2023

But at least it comes with extra snipers to keep things spicy

[junior grail]

Laser Disco

[eternal venture]

It does look like a rave sometimes

six red lasers scanning around through the fog

Lights Out at least does have the ambient poxwalker hordes to keep you on your toes

[tropic imp]

It doesn't one hit raw, even with crit

[eternal venture]

You get a little bit of the survival horror ambience that this game might have been early in dev

Round a corner, see a swarm of glowing green eyes

it's pretty neat

[woven olive]

its always been survival horror....we just meme the fuck outa this game .....ogryns exist sooooo

[quick moth]

Is stealth actually decent for veteran? I can understand it being very good for knife zealot in particular

[eternal venture]

Some of the horror is actually seeing what your teammates run when you go back to the ship

[eternal venture]

Yes

It's a very good ult, but not always for the reasons you'd expect

[wet moon]

fuck, sad. so it NEEDS limbsplitter to oneshot raw?

[woven olive]

repositioning, saving team mates, doing objectives unseen and other such binifits

[eternal venture]

Zealot's stealth is almost purely for big burst damage on single targets, with some utility in being able to reposition

Vet stealth is a lot more utility-focused

[tropic imp]

For me it still doesn't oneshot with limbsplitter

[eternal venture]

With Overwatch, smart ult usage will let you have a stealth charge almost any time you'd want it

[quick moth]

Hmm interesting good to know. I've seen zealots use it similarly, but yeah makes some sense

[tropic imp]

Havent tested with precision strikes

[eternal venture]

You can use it to revive teammates, do objectives, or reposition

[wet moon]

yes. very fun for flanker builds, and has real utility in team comp

[eternal venture]

like favoritezero said

With the -90% detection talent, you can use stealth to position very aggressively in hordes

[quick moth]

Yeah I've had zealots untie the whole team with it so I know there's applications for it

[wet moon]

Azrael posted a clip with it doing that. i think it was limb + uncanny? i’d think limb + thrust would be total overkill

[woven olive]

the real challenge is bringing certain mentality to play where you constantly remind your self its for flank not assassinating and then and only then do you figure out all its many grand uses

[eternal venture]

whether it's to get easy snipes on gunners/specials or to spray an entire rager swarm with a brauto without worrying about getting smacked

[placid portal]

Ofc given you are not the only viable target for aggression

[alpine pebble]

is revolver veteran "basically" the unit sniper?

[wet moon]

plus this is fun

but yes ur right

[placid portal]

Get too separated and they will focus you

[quick moth]

I'd say so yeah. That's what I play

[eternal venture]

I mean, hey, sometimes ragers will ignore you in their face and will charge straight for your psyker 20m away!

[placid portal]

Designated marksmen gaming

[whole moon]

I keep wanting to make a stealth bosskiller build but it feels so niche its not worth it

[eternal venture]

Helbores too

[woven olive]

thats not what i meant... but its still true what you,ve shown

[placid portal]

Helbore is the lasmusket trad sniper

[alpine pebble]

lead>laser

[placid portal]

[eternal venture]

Revolver and Helbore are both good sniping weapons

Revolver is easier to use though

[quick moth]

I want a Ratling with a real sniper rifle, but for now I'd say revolver is the best sniper rifle in game

[placid portal]

Mk3 deletes crushers

[eternal venture]

Helbores have a bit of a learning curve

[placid portal]

[wet moon]

funny columnus stealth build go brrrtttrrt

[queen fox]

hellbore has more dmg potential, doesnt it?

[woven olive]

mmmmm soooooooooo true

[eternal venture]

Of course, plasma guns are good at sniping by way of firing tree trunks down hallways

[quick moth]

Plasma is like a hybrid shotgun sniper

[placid portal]

Has more 1 tap potentials

[woven olive]

prefered weapon too

[placid portal]

Plasma is the delete key

[eternal venture]

Yeah, they have a lot of 1shot/2shot breakpoints

[woven olive]

i just try to use it for support first HVT second

[quick moth]

Plasma and revolver vets paired together is insanely good

[wet moon]

“wah wahh so ammo inefficient u don’t have survivalist”. is it ammo inefficient if i can one-mag a plague ogryn? don’t think so

[wet moon]

insane combo

[quick moth]

Yep, the plasma can knock the bulwark shield down and you headshot afterwards

[eternal venture]

Plasma vet, revolver vet, and an ogryn or zealot for frontline

[woven olive]

i didnt mean it in sarcastic tone THAT is the build i use too

[eternal venture]

Then one flex (another zealot, a psyker)

Solid team comp

[wet moon]

yeah, my problem with the helbore is they just. feel unrewarding to shoot. there’s no feedback.

[wet moon]

oh i know. just a common complaint i hear abt that build

[eternal venture]

Helbores feel kinda dinky until you crit

[quick moth]

I want the hellbore to be a legit Hotshot rifle

[whole moon]

For me, and I know that means it doesnt neccesarily apply to anyone else, we arent ever at Sniper ranges, we're not even at long ranges for assault weapons from when I was last at a range. Couple that with many sniper rifles are one shot breach loaders (not all by any means but the ones valued for their accuracy in the class are) means I dont see much value for rejects in DT. The Vraks VII as a DMR should be enough

[eternal venture]

Then it’s very satisfying

[placid portal]

Feels good if you get3 shotgunners in 1 shot

[wet moon]

YES

[quick moth]

There's hotshot rifles in the lore with penetration, but we don't get them sadly

[wet moon]

plasma can do that and i actually FEEL it

[eternal venture]

Longlas/sniper/hotshot could have a place if they plasma gets nerfed

[wet moon]

i just want my meltagun :(

[placid portal]

All personal preference I like my methodicql musket

[quick moth]

Plasma is good enough, but yeah I want real laser weapons vs these dinky pea shooters

[wet moon]

the question being though, how would they DO the melta? fire shotgun blast like in space marine or a beam weapon like how it actually kinda works in lore?

[eternal venture]

There are a lot of balancing knobs they could turn to give longlas a niche: reload speed, draw/unholster speed, scope for niche situations, huge collateral/penetration

[junior grail]

I think those weapons can beat plasma if they are more ammo efficient

I really want a longlas haha

[eternal venture]

Yeah and they wouldn’t have to deal with heat either

[woven olive]

anyway overall stealth vet gets a bad rep. but ti can be veary usful and veary versitile when used right

[whole moon]

After a rough start I am really liking my plasma now. Fun to be able to shoot thru (some) walls to get to that marked Trapper too

[placid portal]

Should be special drops during mission like the MG in L4D

[wet moon]

idk that would just feel kinda bad imo

cool, but. i want it all the time

[placid portal]

Tru

[eternal venture]

I imagine Melta to be more like Sienna’s beam from vermintide

But with a thicker beam that automatically applies Rending

[wet moon]

or like the sentinel beam from halo?

[junior grail]

My theory is to use weapon mechanic of Flamer but damage of Plasma

[whole moon]

I'd like to see some fixed emplacements for set piece horde/boss fights. It would give some variation without giving us OP weapons we can use everywhere

[placid portal]

But I dont wanna haul a fucking battery pack and a big gun if Im not as strong as ogryn

[wet moon]

god, please.

[junior grail]

Lmb is shotgun blast, rmb is beam

[wet moon]

this!! holy hell this!!

[placid portal]

Based

[woven olive]

i dont see why we couldnt get unique drops since we got 2 bomb types in vermin tide i dont see why we couldnt get a limited use in the field item

[wet moon]

i would main it if it worked like this

[quick moth]

I think it could be a trade off. You lose a little mobility, but your shots can just go straight through a bulwark for example

[junior grail]

Even if it sucked up all the ammo, I'd main it too

[wet moon]

i do! i want my vet to be a heavy weapons specialist!

[eternal venture]

Same

[quick moth]

I also want them to fix the Boltgun. The Boltgun is awesome, but they did it dirty in this game.

[eternal venture]

I have a heavy weapons/demolition-themed loadout and a stealth sniping loadout

Boltgun was meta for quite a while actually

It was always clunky to use though

[whole moon]

its the only 40k iconic weapon that doesnt feel like one right now 😦

[wet moon]

almost every vet uses survivalist idgaf abt being an ammo hog. like - i can pull the entire team out of an almost unwinnable situation situation with the bolter already.

[junior grail]

It was perfect at one point

[quick moth]

It's still good, but yes it's so clunky that you won't use it. The long reload I can deal with, but the swap speed is just complete ass.

[eternal venture]

It was likely designed around Volley Fire being the only ult in the game

[quick moth]

I still prefer it over the laser weapons and assault rifles though

[whole moon]

it doesnt have a role that say the plasma or revolver doesnt contestibly do better

[quick moth]

Boss melter. That's it though.

[wet moon]

i mean. it can still do okay.

https://x.com/sharkmoder/status/1732180863750996473?s=46&t=8xCVA0rff4_Ty3CwCOcpUA

but yeah, very much designed around volley fire

[whole moon]

that Damn? if so thats pretty impressive for sure

[wet moon]

want the build?

it’s pretty standard “kill big thing” build but yeah

[quick moth]

Yeah if you're using volley (which actually is pretty legit again thanks to fire being such a nightmare), it is good.

[whole moon]

yes and no. I'm old an my brain will forget before i next use it. FS need to let me type a description for my loadouts

[wet moon]

i’ll drop it anyway

https://x.com/sharkmoder/status/1732181345768812630?s=46&t=8xCVA0rff4_Ty3CwCOcpUA

[whole moon]

ty

[woven olive]

you know since we got that new revolver....why dont FS just add a bolter pistol

[wet moon]

they NEED loadout names

like ffs

or more icons

[placid portal]

And more loadout slots

[woven olive]

or the option to connect to the builds on the web site and make a copy to test in the psykonium

[whole moon]

I can see why theyd limit loadout slots, more data means more cost and more to go wrong. five seem arbitrary but more than some other games of same type. I still feel like I need 20 tho

[wet moon]

mod!

more character mod let’s you make more loadouts

you’re welcome

[whole moon]

I know but I dont wanna use that one in particular in case I lose a class permanently.

[quick moth]

I might argue that gun ogryn fills that role well, but gun ogryn is such a frustrating class from experience. It's great for deleting bosses, but bleh their range and mobility is terrible imo after being spoiled by vet and zealot.

[idle carbon]

IIRC someone from fatshark did come out and say that it was safe to use the mod
in any case I'm onto my third vet lol

[whole moon]

Ive been running a VoC Support vet in Damn recently and hugging any Ogryn in the group, popping the ult as soon as it regens. Working quite well. Sometimes the team gets cocky tho, that generally ends badly

[wet moon]

i just hate how playing ogryn feels

[eternal venture]

One thing I can't decide on for the Helbore, though

is whether I want to use Focus or Marksman

[wet moon]

and when i can delete bosses with zealot and vet anyways, i have no reason to play ogryn

[eternal venture]

Both marksman and tag keystone hit pretty much the same breakpoints

[whole moon]

How does it handle when you disable the mod? What happens to the excess?

[quick moth]

It's okay if you heavily dip into the middle tree and do hybrid builds, but agreed. I found bull rush with kickback worked best for me.

[eternal venture]

Name change would be a great mod, too

[wet moon]

depends, do you like moving and potentially more finesse, or ease of use and potentially aiding the team? bc redirect fire is good

[woven olive]

i agree ogryn just feels bad at range even with powerful options

aint bad with a shovel though

[eternal venture]

but I don't think that'll happen because apparently name changes would fuck with the base game files too much

or at least that's what FS devs have said in the past

[idle carbon]

chars created after your 5th just won't show up until you reenable it, it's stored on the server
not sure how that interacts with other mods tho, like the character mover

[eternal venture]

Yeah Redirect Fire and Target Down are both very nice

[wet moon]

it’s why i almost always opt for it over focus. just ease of use and helping team. i use focus for my horde clear lawbringer shotgun build tho for insane finesse scaling

[whole moon]

Dont suppose you have a link to FS's statement on this do you? I do want more but lets just say I'm feeling wary and cautious

[wet moon]

it’s in the mod description

[whole moon]

ty o7

[quick moth]

Y'all have more than 4 characters? Lol

[idle carbon]

for me, I just wanted to see what the vet personalities were like

[woven olive]

some times its nice to see how bad a good weapon is early in the game honestly

[idle carbon]

oh right, this is one statement
scroll a bit further down and you'll see that you won't get banned for using the mod
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/more-characters-and-loadouts-mod/82897/22?u=thesoldier

[quick moth]

Agri shotgun is pretty okay until Hersey, but sucks after that

[eternal venture]

The other mod I wish were still active is the character voice mod

[idle carbon]

also, I disabled the mod to check,
your chars just stay on the screen like normal

[eternal venture]

The one that changes duplicate character voices in a game if 2+ people are using the same voice

it's nice for immersion, if nothing else

a lot of character interactions break if multiple people in a lobby are using the same voice

also hearing two judge zealots or two cadian vets screaming the entire match gets really irritating lol

[woven olive]

if they made 5th class it isnt the ratling then....i mean ok but common those short guys need some love

[idle carbon]

in the end though, for me it's one character that might get lost, and one that has basically no investment in it, so if push came to shove I'd delete my cadian
unfortunately my professional, my 2nd vet, ended up getting all the good shit lol

now tho, if a shared inventory got introduced like resource siloing, then I'd probably go and delete my professional

[woven olive]

the ability to spend resources to send weapons over to other character would be nice free would be better but still

[wet moon]

i want tech adept!!!

[idle carbon]

or just give everyone one inventory so I don't have to pointlessly waste resources sending over this perfect weapon/gun to my other vet (or even my zealot or psyker) just so I don't have to listen to the same voice lines all the time

[woven olive]

you gottta get in FS head man....they never like it easy on us

[wet moon]

you can make it work even in auric damnation w the right build. hell, Ryken did a build for it. but i just. hate the agri. plus that build works better w a plasma anyway

[woven olive]

i miss pre patch 13 agri that was a good CQC and sniper rip broken ass agri

[wet moon]

okay ever since you brought this up i can’t stop thinking abt it.

ITS ALREADY A WEAPON IN VERMINTIDE FATSHARK. ITD BE EASY. PLEASE. GIVE ME MY MELTA

she needs it…she’s be so much happier with a melta…. not this ulwieldy brick of a gun…

[alpine pebble]

bricc gùn

[whole moon]

anyone aware of a mod that will create a dump of your current character arsenals? Sat here wanting to play the Brunt/Hadron roulette but no idea what to choose

[woven olive]

if we get a tech adept one of its abilities has to be a servo skull that passively pulses revealing enemies through walls at short range

[woven olive]

and make it stay for 2mins and have a 30s-45s cooldown

[wet moon]

when will FS make deadshot work with plasma…it’s supposed to…

it just doesn’t bc it’s a unique braced animation

[whole moon]

Did they patch out the bayonette/limbsplitter issue yet?

[near sable]

couldn't have given me trickshooter.. or crucian

[frank ether]

I dont get the bolter complaints

especially in vet chat

[sonic skiff]

how is this bad when its completely fixable

[near sable]

i am hunting for unyielding/carapace, trickshooter x crucian

[terse idol]

I WILL SAY, Handcannon isn't a doomed cause

[flint garden]

zarona supremacy

[near sable]

with the current roll

no crucian, no 25% cara

although, go figure

[half wigeon]

being using this

feels like having a tons of damage

with columnus or braced autoguns

[near sable]

free rending..

free headshot damage on the already headshot weighted weapon

it could be yours

all you have to do is reach out and take it

[half wigeon]

i did take it i just didn't send the good pic

[near sable]

https://tenor.com/view/victor-saltzpyre-saltzpyre-victor-vermintide-2-vermintide-gif-788849408816878042

[half wigeon]

but iam using same build with 1 point took away on the top and took the tag

[wet moon]

it’s….beautiful….

[zealous wyvern]

idk if this build matches your massively chad energy tho

[half wigeon]

lmaoo

[floral sun]

Does deadshot work at 0 stamina?

[half wigeon]

no

[near sable]

no..

[wet moon]

no

[floral sun]

damn its a pretty bad skill

[delicate lotus]

anyone wane join up im leveling my
fledgling Vet?

[half wigeon]

that's why u have to take the + 3 stam curio

[near sable]

deadshot is functionally amazing

see: what counts as "dodging"

[half wigeon]

deadshot op on slow firate

[near sable]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-call-of-duty-ghost-cod-ghost-ghost-meme-cod-ghost-meme-gif-27101525

[half wigeon]

yeah duck

[tropic imp]

Poxbursters love deadshot

[floral sun]

fair points

[near sable]

me when people somehow still don't know about deadshot dd

[half wigeon]

lmaoo

duck and dive works with the blessing that immune u to shots ?

ghost

[near sable]

yeeessss

this means you put it on your hlaspistol with dumdum

and quite realistically can stand infront of 40,000 shooters, gunners, reapers

snipers

and as long as you hit headshots on timing you're fine

innumerable crits & immunity to ranged

[floral sun]

You have one talent point left. Which of these nodes is a no brainer on any build?

[wet moon]

i take off surpression immunity and and take elite dmg and marksman

[floral sun]

i like suppression immunity tho. there are a lot of gunners on auric

[near sable]

gunners can't suppress you if they can't hit you

[wet moon]

and you get volley fire back so fast for killing them

[near sable]

https://tenor.com/view/good-kill-bill-movie-gif-3227816247280061649

[flint garden]

trying to hit gunners with revolver without suppression immunity

[half wigeon]

depends on the weapon

suppresion aint that usefull

[floral sun]

agripina infantry

[half wigeon]

supression then

💀

[near sable]

the elite damage is free

you could have it

[floral sun]

bruh i already have suppression

ok, i was unsure between deadshot, elite damage and weakspot damage

[half wigeon]

oh yeah mb

weakspot

or elites

weakspot if u good aiming

elites if u are blind

[floral sun]

i have extra low cd on shout so i think weakspot may make more sense

[half wigeon]

deadshot hard to use on high firerate weapons

[floral sun]

this thing obliterates bosses from the rear

[near sable]

true although the autogats do have high headshot mp

[quick moth]

It's only dreg gunners and reapers that can be a little challenging

[naive granite]

Which perks should i be looking for on the plasma gun?

Like any important breakpoints that i can get with certain ones?

[half wigeon]

why you use raking fire ?

[sharp ember]

there's multiple choices depending on who you hate most

[floral sun]

the other blessing was crappy, and i changed one of the perks too

[sharp ember]

Unarmored for Dreg Gunner, Flak, Maniac, Carapace, Unyielding

[naive granite]

Ah so basically any of them

That makes it simple ty ty

[half wigeon]

infested damage ?

that's random XD

[floral sun]

no it rolled with infested damage

i added weakspot

[half wigeon]

oh sadge

better roll next time xD

cuz thoses are the infested

kinda pointless imo

[floral sun]

big sadge. complete an auric maelstrom just to get scammed by brunt's slot machine

[sharp ember]

need a new beefy infested enemy

[half wigeon]

i would go for flak maniac imo

[near sable]

[whole moon]

damn man, I tried that pistol and found it really lacklustre, is that Damnation Psych?

[near sable]

aye it is

[whole moon]

looks like I need to try harder

thats the build I was using

[near sable]

keep in mind

[whole moon]

also, using it on the Zealot so probably a build issue. mirroring your build now

[near sable]

would probably recommend the zarona revolver on zealot if you're looking for straight up damage

[delicate lotus]

Random groups drive me up a wall anyone wane join up to make my Vet leveling less painful?

[quick moth]

Needs surgical, but otherwise basically perfect

[half wigeon]

????

[quick moth]

The blessing surgical. Adds 10% crit chance which stacks 10 times

[sharp ember]

do you even build surgical stacks at max fanfire speed

[quick moth]

Oh whoops that is the new one

Yeah I doubt it

[near sable]

still need an unyielding/maniacs x trickshooter/crucian

for boss memery

[quick moth]

I'm nearly at 1.5mil gold and I know I'll spend all of that just trying to get power cycler 4

[tall sleet]

hey dont be so pessimistic

youll probably run out of plasteel long before that

[quick moth]

Lol true dat

[jade notch]

Pulling for a God Roll for base stats is where the real gold drain happens

[quick moth]

80% is the cap, right?

[jade notch]

Ye, for any one stat

[tall sleet]

I just pray to be drip fed good rolls

I dont trust brunts

[pine snow]

wish granted

hadron will now always brick them

[jade notch]

I just run with 'good enough' weapons

[tall sleet]

smh

[zealous wyvern]

check melk daily dont force it

[jade notch]

^

[zealous wyvern]

use another weapon in the meantime

[jade notch]

Melk is usually how I get my weapon blessings, ye

[zealous wyvern]

or just use powercycler 3

like damn

the weapon is better than most without pc4

[quick moth]

Yeah I'm mostly alright, but additional optimization doesn't hurt

[south spindle]

Huh.. @forest scaffold you was right.. Recon Las/Marksman's Focus actually does shred

Deffo want Onslaught over Rending Strikes tho

[tall sleet]

🙏

idk what to do with the perks lol

[quick moth]

What the hell does increased mobility even do for the revolver? At 30% which is bad, I don't even notice a difference between one I have with higher mobility lol

[tall sleet]

30% might have 1 lower dodge limit

not sure

[quick moth]

Hmm interesting

3 dodges at 30%

[jovial nexus]

30 mobility with a revolver - thats a pre big iron on his hip

[tall sleet]

mine has 4 at 52%

tbh not super vital I guess but its something

[jovial nexus]

over 50% is fine

[quick moth]

Yeah I probably won't actively seek it out, but that's good info to have

Right now it's okay for Auric Damnation

[near sable]

the real jewel in the crown

[jovial nexus]

Im thinking of replacing crucian roulette for hand cannon

[gusty bison]

Tbf a grey recon las can do auric damn so its pretty low bar xD

But ye that volver is solid and 'good enough'

[quick moth]

That's a nice devil claw. I need to download the meat grinder mod to practice the parrying more, but it's a fun sword absolutely

[jade notch]

Yeah, that'll do until you chance upon a better one

[near sable]

finesse is a bit low and the forever t3 perk curse

[gusty bison]

I personally wouldnt waste any more resources on that pattern of volver grinding a perfect one cos chances are u wont feel the difference

Save it for something else

[near sable]

shhhhh

[quick moth]

Yep agreed there

[near sable]

grind for the perfect roll

[quick moth]

Need a plasma and power sword at some point and just waiting on those

[gusty bison]

Plasma is SUPER EASY to grind

Its not even a grind lol

The blessings dont matter. And there is only 1 must have perk

[autumn wave]

Not like Hand Cannon is brought up to its best potential without a crit boosting blessing anyways

[quick moth]

Okay I lied evidently and already have a good one

[gusty bison]

Yea this is very good

Swap ranged groaner damage for maniac

Swap Shattering for something else

[quick moth]

Random reward from auric damn which seems better than Melk drops most of the time tbh

[gusty bison]

GH 3 is perfectly fine

And Unarmoured actually is a perk you want

[quick moth]

What's the best way of getting optimized curios? Throwing Melk bucks at Melk?

[gusty bison]

Time and constantly checking brunt

[quick moth]

Makes sense

[tall sleet]

I never end up stocking many dockets because I check brunt every hour on every class lol

[copper delta]

ultimate support artillery, toughness regen is insane.

[south spindle]

Yo thats actually sexy as fuck

Its just a shame those scopes are unreasonably difficult to use :/

[tall sleet]

do you guys play deadshot with surgical revolver?

[ionic hull]

yea hi thats me

i love deadshot

[tall sleet]

I think I like it, just dont know if its redundant

[sour elbow]

hardon's given me this. How workable? I'm thinking replace unarmoured enemies and no respite

[ionic hull]

it shouldnt be but evne if it is more Rending form Hand Cannon si always a good thing for more dmg

least to me anyway

[frank ether]

its not workable..

better to just start over

also you want higher stopping power

[sour elbow]

tfw last week I was told not to bother with high stopping power

[frank ether]

which is basically your damage to certain armor types

[frank ether]

who keeps giving all this highly questionable advice

I swear someone is serving chaos gods here

[rigid pilot]

I think by high they meant like 60-80

Not 27

[frank ether]

whats ideal is to like

have a roll

where your damage and stopping are 75+ generally

if you're gonna invest plasteel into a weapon it might aswell have good base stats

and you can treat things like mobility, stability, ammo as off-stats in that order

you still don't want them as low as 27 though

anyways aside from base modifiers, you want to avoid weakspot damage as a perk

for blessings its pretty much headhunter+deadly accurate for this gun

Idk if it gets surgical, if it does thats considerable, if not headhunter.

[tall sleet]

possibly silly question, but does deadshot still give crirate at 0 stamina?

[versed merlin]

no

[tall sleet]

aight thought as much but never know

thx

[versed merlin]

nw

i know some mad lads run stam on their curios just to benefit of a higher uptime buff while aiming

how's the new chain sword for vets?

i havent tried yet, but seen some people saying good things about it

[maiden trail]

Whoever designed the penance On Overwatch is a clear heretic

[crude wind]

This was terrible advice

[versed merlin]

indeege

[frank ether]

Its essential learning step for veteran

[maiden trail]

Not really

[frank ether]

most vet penances teach you valueable lessons

[maiden trail]

That the devs hate us

[frank ether]

lmao

[crude wind]

here are a list of stat modifiers that affect damage on guns:
Stopping Power
Penetration
Damage
Critical Bonus

[maiden trail]

I've yet to see a zealot penance that bad or psyker one

[frank ether]

If you can't avoid taking damage as veteran you're not getting far with this class

I'm just gonna be blunt

[crude wind]

@sour elbow

[frank ether]

it can be done on malice, its not that hard

you have a 360 degree block and you have VoC that gives you a lot of headroom

[maiden trail]

Meanwhile I've done every other content in the game with vet just fine.....that's BS and you know it

[frank ether]

lmao no

[maiden trail]

Yes

[frank ether]

its a skill issue

[maiden trail]

No

[frank ether]

I'm not gonna sugarcoat it for your feelings lol

[sharp ember]

one day you'll just get it on accident pal

[maiden trail]

Mobs spawning in thin air is not a skill issue

Not from a manhole cover , not jumping down , literally appearing out of nowhere midswing in my face

If you want to say that's a skill issue then your demented and an agent of chaos

[frank ether]

lol

okae

I still have the penance tho

[maiden trail]

Ie we found the heretic guys

Taking bets you did the cheese method before they patched jt

It*

[frank ether]

I did it last patch

[crude wind]

i think i did it by accident

[frank ether]

same

[crude wind]

in the first week of the game

[frank ether]

I was going for the %90 accuracy one

[delicate estuary]

I am a proud owner of such a title 💪

cause

[frank ether]

ended up doing both

[delicate estuary]

fuck penances

[maiden trail]

That's still not a no

[crude wind]

i still need to do the accuracy one but man I just don't care about it

[delicate estuary]

I did it when it counted on any class

good times

🥹

ogryn with rumbler

very hard to miss

[maiden trail]

Fuck poorly designed penances* zealot and psykers don't have as bad of a penance as On Overwatch

[frank ether]

Why would I need to cheese anything for a malice tier penance lmao

I don't even know what the cheese is

[maiden trail]

Why indeed heretic

[frank ether]

also if its cheesable why havent you done it

[delicate estuary]

I mean you answered your own question regarding about the importance of that penance

lmfao

malice level difficulty

[maiden trail]

Read back to where they patched it

[frank ether]

just teaching fundementals for vet

[maiden trail]

Not in the slightest

[rough mortar]

What is the strength and weakness of plasma rifle? I only like playing psyker, would like to know more about veteran

[delicate estuary]

no weakness for plasma rifle

unless you spam hordes with it

then ammo maybe a question mark

[maiden trail]

High ammo consumption, not the best for hordes but is workable, great for hitting hard targets

[timid otter]

Ammo is low on plasma.

[frank ether]

Revolver makes it piece of cake tbh

I also dont take survivalist for that one

cause it confuses my brain

[timid otter]

It also has to devote alot of effort to getting good breakpojnts

[maiden trail]

For plasma it's not one shot is 1 ammo count

[delicate estuary]

no survivalist, shitty ammo roll and magdump hordes with a revovler

I doubt its that hard

[frank ether]

I dont think revolver has an ammo roll

I think its fixed 57 shots total if I remember right

but thats a tiny amount

[maiden trail]

I think it depends on if your using the new variant too

[delicate estuary]

dont use the new variant

[frank ether]

If you choose the gun with 100 reserve over 50 for a ''finish all your ammo with X accuracy'' penance thats on you

[delicate estuary]

at least for that

[sharp ember]

other vet characters make fun of your vet when they wince from venting heat, that's probably a drawback

[frank ether]

actually Idk if new revolver has an ammo roll

[maiden trail]

I havent used it on zealot yet I don't think , it's description sounds rather....bad ....not really accurate better for close quarters but faster reload

[frank ether]

but who cares no one will use it for the penance

its braced

[delicate estuary]

thats why I said it was nice when I did that penance on ogryn

with rumbler

good days

[maiden trail]

Which penance? The no ammo 90% accuracy?

[delicate estuary]

ye

the beta days

were glorious

[maiden trail]

Oh I used the revolver for that one

[delicate estuary]

I used the rumbler

much better

[maiden trail]

I got the penance much easier than On Overwatch anyway

Just went and shot stuff away from the group till no ammo , then all melee no ammo grabbing

Staying with the group you risk of them killing the target first XD

[delicate estuary]

I never stay with the group unless its mandatory anyways

I hate coherency

[abstract moth]

I mean honestly is very doable, I did it first try with plasma gun and no survivalist aura, missed 2 shots too

[maiden trail]

Much more doable than On Overwatch

[abstract moth]

I think that one is easier, you can do it on malice low threat and only your health counts not armor

[maiden trail]

Doesn't seem to be the case

Or it's bugged to the deepest depths of the warp

[frank ether]

lol

bugged how

[abstract moth]

It was for me, if I'm not mistaken even if you get grabbed by a hound is still counts as long you don't take health damage

[frank ether]

its very simple you dont take health damage for a mission, thats it

[crude wind]

hahaha I never knew this was a bug

[maiden trail]

I think , aside from corruption from grimoires or a monstrosity, the only health damage I took was from flames which isn't melee....

And running voice of the emperor I tend to keep my toughness overflowing when I need to XD

[maiden trail]

They really need to hire someone who can give actual accurate descriptions for penances

Side note fought the twins finally XD they been avoiding me like the plague lol...seeing as we don't get to the killing blow I'm guessing that latest transmission is hinting at a new mission.....an assassination one for them 😛

[frank ether]

Fixing the description for on overwatch would involve making it harder than it currently is

[sharp ember]

definitely, i reckon we get a special assassination mission to fight both, and this event is to just showcase their moves

[frank ether]

with fatshark monkey paw they'd make it so toughness damage also fails it and you wouldn't get it done in a thousand years lmao

[maiden trail]

That doesn't make sense

[frank ether]

you could have already finished it

by the time you argued with me about it

[sharp ember]

the plasma gun sibling is a chump even with horde backup

[maiden trail]

Not really

[sharp ember]

but the melee sibling is fun

[delicate estuary]

penances

that troll your lobby

are the best penances

I agree

"oh you got trapped wellt oo bad"

cya at respawn nerd

[maiden trail]

I had one jump us on the water purification mission just before the bridge , was fun because of the risk of getting knocked to the edge lol

[frank ether]

I mean you've been arguing with me for 22 minutes about it thats enough to finish two malice missions

just spam it and you'll eventually get it done

[maiden trail]

Again wouldn't change anything considering I haven't taken health DMG from them and flame DMG is kinda stupid ATM

[delicate estuary]

just let your teammates die

do the release darktide

"doing a penance"

[maiden trail]

Then I'd get swarmed lol

[delicate estuary]

[frank ether]

or you can just complain about it

[maiden trail]

And lol your actually keeping track of time?

[delicate estuary]

yes yes plush we get it you have the moral highground

[abstract moth]

I mean is simple you want the challenges done? Do it until you end them, only you can choose to give up

[frank ether]

discord does it for me lol

[gusty bison]

On overwatch is a good test of ur fundamentals

[maiden trail]

If you mean with time stamps then you'd have to actually be looking at them and scrolling up to keep track

[delicate estuary]

people disliking people that speedrun but then they didnt get to play withs peedrunning zealots trying to complete missions within 20 minutes on heresy or higher on release

[maiden trail]

Not in the slightest

[gusty bison]

The way to get on overwatch is not to hide like a coward

[frank ether]

Not even that anymore with VoC

[gusty bison]

Hiding makes it even more likelt for you to get hit

The best way to get on OW is play aggressive as melee vet

[maiden trail]

I've tried staying behind the ogrins and being aggressive, that is not the issue

Mobs will pop out of thin air in my face

Mid swing

[gusty bison]

Block and dodge

If its mid swing then u have packet loss

[maiden trail]

Not enough time to block and dodge

[frank ether]

what morals lmao

[maiden trail]

They have a lunge bigger than ours

[maiden trail]

Gotta agree , plush is a heretic and they tend to not have them

[frank ether]

just do the thing till you get the thing