veteran-class

[sudden dome]

it also has trash weakpoint damage

[mystic belfry]

Run lawbringer for anti-horde meme instead

[versed merlin]

hey guys what are the priority stats that i should be looking out for a devil claw 4?

[grave cargo]

Lawbringer isn't as good at dealing with shooters

[nimble sentinel]

Agri brauto is deceptively accurate and punishing at range if you’re goated with the sauce

[astral blade]

If that was the case I’d rather bring the bolter

[grave cargo]

Brauto is very good at dealing with shooters

[acoustic wyvern]

you're comparing the use of agri against the good points of a laspistol. i think you're comparing it wrongly

[mystic belfry]

Bolter isn't even a meme for anti horde wdym

[astral blade]

No but it would be a waste of ammo

[sudden dome]

the upside of the agri braced compared to the las pistol is you dont have to hit heads

[acoustic wyvern]

its like comparing and apple and a celery and wondering why the apple is not a veggie

[sudden dome]

thats about it

[tawny glen]

wat would u pick over sunder and cara

[grave cargo]

The main problem with lawbringer is it doesn't have as much suppression, and is slower to load, you can legit just gun down an entire shooter patrol with a brauto, it's amazing

It's like having a flamethrower except full of bullets

[mystic belfry]

Elite/Unyielding and brutal momentum

[nimble sentinel]

Nobody talks about the lasgun when we’re talking ranged horde clearing

[forest blaze]

Brutal momentum for sure

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-thats-pretty-good-good-job-great-nice-gif-15704235

[tawny glen]

why bm over sunder exactly?

[finite imp]

Smash

[versed merlin]

recon

[forest blaze]

Because it’s better

[mystic belfry]

I'd keep keep Maniac/Carpace though

[nimble sentinel]

Click fast and in the general direction of their heads

[grave cargo]

BM is a little better for the most part

[mystic belfry]

It kills hordes faster, significantly so

[tawny glen]

oh even more cleave

i only have t3 bm

is t4 sunder better

[grave cargo]

It doesn't kill them significantly faster

It's like

[mystic belfry]

Sunder has some nifty things, and can stun a horde if you really want

[nimble sentinel]

Pour one out for our fallen bretthren 😭

[finite imp]

It deletes them

[grave cargo]

10-15% faster

[mystic belfry]

BM will kill hordes signfiicantly faster

[grave cargo]

You're already clearing hordes in seconds

[mystic belfry]

It's much more than 15% faster lol

[tawny glen]

id rather kill them now than later

kk bm it is thx capitanos

[mystic belfry]

BM is roughly 3 kills more per swing

[grave cargo]

On trash*

[mystic belfry]

kills not hits

[nimble sentinel]

MG 4 is the best horde clear and I’ll die on this hill

Except I won’t because I’ll clear the horde with my my 4

[grave cargo]

Which Sunder will clear in like, 1 extra swing because it still clears 6-9 chaff per swing

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/why-fail-poor-choice-yikes-gif-19205909

[mystic belfry]

it takes more than one extra swing :v

[grave cargo]

Again, as I've said before, the only must have on power sword is power cycler

Everything else is to taste

[mystic belfry]

Power is indeed the only must have. And if you really want, you could avoid that even

[nimble sentinel]

Just take a shovel

[grave cargo]

It's pretty fucking ass in how it feels without at least PC3

You spend half the match just watching an animation play

[mystic belfry]

it's much worse, but still usable

[nimble sentinel]

In built horde clear, Minecraft anti carapace

[grave cargo]

Like, yeah you'll still topscore on melee

But it feels so asssssssssssssssss

[mystic belfry]

Mhmm

[astral blade]

Serious question those best melee for horde clearing

[mystic belfry]

Rashad

[grave cargo]

Anyways I run a brauto on my infiltrate vet

[nimble sentinel]

Shovel

I’m not even joking

[grave cargo]

Infiltrate gives a lot of flat base damage increases

[mystic belfry]

Shovel is the safest horde clear

Rashad is the fastest horde clear

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/deerseason-engaged-im-gif-19199737

[nimble sentinel]

Mk 7 does it all

[grave cargo]

I really don't like Rashad tbhfam

[mystic belfry]

PS6 is roughly the same as rashad, slightly slower

[grave cargo]

It doesn't feel that fun

[astral blade]

Y’all serious about the shovel?

[grave cargo]

Shovel is, ok

[mystic belfry]

Basic shovel is very safe horde clear

very safe

[grave cargo]

The main thing is it has increased blocking efficiency and very good stagger

Also good base stamina

[nimble sentinel]

It’s the veterans bully club. Nothing can kill you cause nothing can even stand up. Crusher or mauler? Flip to pick and brain em

[forest blaze]

Bonking sounds intensify

[grave cargo]

You can throw out a lot of specials to stagger everything except bosses, and also spam shoves

[astral blade]

Ok guess I’ll give the new shovel a go I guess

[grave cargo]

The actual clear time is, not great, but it's not bad, and works on mixed hordes about as well as chaff

[mystic belfry]

New shovel is different

[grave cargo]

If you mean new shovel

That thing is cracked

[nimble sentinel]

Of course, mk 7 gang

[grave cargo]

It's basically a straight upgrade

[mystic belfry]

Ish

[grave cargo]

It's a little silly, the only thing you're honestly losing compared to old shovel is the fast special attack that staggers everything

[storm badge]

Whats the move on the Infantry Lasgun? Headhunter/No Respite with like Flak/Carapace/Manic?

[grave cargo]

Don't take cara on lasguns

[nimble sentinel]

Replace with a special that kills everything

[grave cargo]

Their carapace damage is terrible

[nimble sentinel]

We will not be friends

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/all-of-this-pointing-up-there-see-this-gif-14720503

[wide anvil]

I thnk you take Headhunter / whatever the Blessing that increases Crit DMG on Weakspot hits is

[grave cargo]

This is true but it's not as fast as the old shovel's on coming out, it's worse when you ahve 6 ragers in your face

[nimble sentinel]

Wait I misread

[astral blade]

Headhunter as a blessing is a god sent

[nimble sentinel]

I read “don’t care for lasguns “

[grave cargo]

Lasgun base damage on Carapace, even if you crit, is fucking bad lol

[nimble sentinel]

I’m in bed pardon my dyslexia

[wide anvil]

Yeah just do Flak + Maniac for good measure

It'll do

[grave cargo]

If you want to shoot Crushers take a Helbore

[mystic belfry]

Just pair lasguns with the new shovel or ps6

[terse idol]

Helbore Las gun when

Yeeahh

[nimble sentinel]

Keep the shovel for carapace

[astral blade]

Wait do us vets have a passive similar to headhunter

[nimble sentinel]

Everything else can get lasd

[mystic belfry]

Crit chance on vet is mostly from deadshot

[wide anvil]

Deadshot Talent on the bottom left tree

[mystic belfry]

Reciprocity exists too

[astral blade]

Ok just curious

[wide anvil]

Yeah

[grave cargo]

Best vet weapons right now are imo

Revolver (ADS)
Plasma
Headhunter IX
Helbore (pick your favorite)

[mystic belfry]

But it's mostly deadshot, for most guns

[storm badge]

Wicked, thanks yall. Never bothered with the lasguns since Ive been rockin the slug since it came out and I dont Vet too much.

[mystic belfry]

I like reciptrocity on a few things, like lawbringer builds or las pistols

[serene sage]

where columnus?

[nimble sentinel]

This can’t be true you don’t mention kantrael once

[desert hawk]

columnus

[astral blade]

…..I forgot about that talent

[mystic belfry]

Laspistol too

[grave cargo]

Honorable mention to columnus inf but the headhunter outperforms it if you know what you're doing

[forest blaze]

Columnus IAG

[serene sage]

[mystic belfry]

Columnus is also there, yeah

[grave cargo]

Headhunter is stupidly high DPS

[desert hawk]

columnus iag is just too comfy to pass over

[mystic belfry]

it is

[serene sage]

have you tried the Columnus though

[grave wadi]

Fresh out of the oven boiz

[grave cargo]

Yeah

It's fine, I'm just talking about the BEST guns

There's no real "bad" guns except the brauto IV and II

[serene sage]

best right now is Revolver Plasma and Columnus

[nimble sentinel]

And not a single mention of the headshot machine with infinite ammo?

[grave cargo]

Oh and Shredder

[mystic belfry]

hmm, fix perks or just eat headtaker

[grave cargo]

Laspistol I'm actually not sure of right now so I can't say, but I think the main issue for me is revolver exists

[astral blade]

Where columnus?

[mystic belfry]

Might fix and just use it for now

[serene sage]

not really, most won matches are like 30-35 mins for me, not counting the blue moon rare 40+ games

[grave cargo]

It's not bad but, revolver plasma and headhunter are fucking silly at the moment

[terse idol]

The heavy Las pistol with infiltrate and the extra power on back attacks is pretty fun

[serene sage]

which HH are we talking about?

[grave cargo]

IX

It's been silly I guess

[serene sage]

there's a MkIX?

Vraks has 3 and 7

[astral blade]

Idk why but I kinda miss the old vet tree

[serene sage]

or are we talking about something else?

[nimble sentinel]

Whatever I’m going to sleep harder than you fools on the kantrael

[astral blade]

Not trolling rn being serious

[grave cargo]

The IX is the Agrapinna

[nimble sentinel]

Nighty night nerds

[serene sage]

well ig my matches are 30 ish minutes so no difference for me

[torn moat]

Wait... since when did HH mk9 outperform both Vraks HH?

[grave wadi]

Might be a community skill issue. Lots of Returing Players who have zero clue what they are doing. I've seen wound stacking ogryns, vets with stamina curios, etc

[grave cargo]

Since patch 13

When they retooled the blessings

[astral blade]

Why just why

[mystic belfry]

🤔 Are you trying to say stam curios on vet is bad

[grave cargo]

The IX just has a SHITTON more DPS and damage per mag basically

[serene sage]

he's just cosplay zealots 👍

[finite imp]

Show us a loss

[torn moat]

What perks for the 9?

And blessings?

[astral blade]

I’d assume flak and maniac

[serene sage]

i got you, wanna see my loss?

[finite imp]

This fuckin guy

[grave wadi]

Lots of useless ogryn players, especially Gunner ones but that isnt far outside of the normal

[terse idol]

Hold on

You can run 1 stamina curio

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/musically-loss-goobercore-is-this-loss-tiktok-gif-11983815494155359364

[grave cargo]

Depends on what you want, you're crit stacking with it, so you can actually take carapace and unyielding and just destroy everything

[terse idol]

You honestly should

[grave wadi]

yes but you dont need 2 or 3 of them as a ranged vet lol

[terse idol]

That's fair

[grave cargo]

You want Deadly Accurate and your crit blessing of choice + Deadshot

[mystic belfry]

I agree

But a stam curio is good

[terse idol]

I mean if they're running like deadeye, with the stamina running out I can kinda see that

[grave cargo]

Congrats you now do 1.5k damage per salvo

[astral blade]

Stam curio on vet huh

[finite imp]

Does it ever get boring at the top

[grave cargo]

Not per second

[astral blade]

Makes sense

[grave cargo]

The DPS is much higher than that

[grave wadi]

no the idiot pugs you get make it interesting sometimes

[grave cargo]

Only thing is you do have to land headshots, the bodyshot damage is bad

[finite imp]

I wanna watch you work one day

[serene sage]

yeah

I can clutch if there isn't a boss around

idk how you can consistently do that with bosses around

[finite imp]

No I wanna see it in person

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/miss-me-with-that-dodge-gif-5757188

[grave cargo]

Depends on the boss I guess

BoN is either a joke or the most dangerous thing on the map

[willow badger]

omfg fire doesnt instantly wipe toughness now???

[serene sage]

plgryn is doable

[willow badger]

that so fking amazing

[serene sage]

choas and bon means my ammo is gone

[grave cargo]

Monkey paw

Fire now kills you instantly if you get stuck in it

[brisk sapphire]

It wipes your entire health bar instead

[finite imp]

I love it when he tweaks and your toughness breaks

[grave cargo]

But yes no more instant toughness breaking for clipping it, overall an improvement

[finite imp]

Twerks

[serene sage]

still no hot fix

[forest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-paw-paw-monkey-gif-17535679

[serene sage]

sadge

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-warhammer-40k-warhammer-40k-darktide-goodbye-chat-gif-17988604282929457996

[grave cargo]

Small indie company

Please understand

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-bernie-gif-27192884

[grave cargo]

They have to take their month long break now

Government mandated PTO

[brisk sapphire]

Fire actually can feel weaker on ogryn with all that toughness dmg reduction, but once that toughness is gone

Rip

[finite imp]

Just ban xboxers

[forest blaze]

EU noises

[serene sage]

they are slowly getting better

I used to see zero good XBox players

now ive seen a 3

[grave cargo]

Because they're about to do it right after dropping a patch

[terse idol]

Its bad because the bottom line for CEO'S who have nooooo concept of what being on the working side of things

[grave cargo]

Remember when they did that on launch and the game died

Good times, good times

[finite imp]

Lmao

Tis the season for darktide to die

[serene sage]

I thought you work in the military?

[grave cargo]

But honestly if fire is doing too much damage and that's the only problem? I'm sure that'll be fine

[brisk sapphire]

They at least need to fix fire before vacation

[forest blaze]

I work in SaaS sales. Nobody gets time off at the end of the year. Gotta make the calendar year look great and rollover for a hot Q1 start.

[finite imp]

Hey same

[grave cargo]

I was more worried it would be another Fatshark moment and they would have reintroduced spawn bugs they already fixed three times

[serene sage]

I don't kek, I'm in pharma

[grave cargo]

That's a Christmas tradition

[finite imp]

What branch is that jesus

Yeah no fucking wonder

[grave cargo]

Eh, basically anything that's kinda selective and wants employees to stay gives good PTO

[finite imp]

Navy 9 years here

Yeah

[grave cargo]

I get Holidays, 40 hours of personal time, and 120 hours of PTO accural each year

[finite imp]

Rip

Have you had friend tarantula

Fried

[mystic belfry]

I simply chose to not join the military

[serene sage]

weird question, what is your opinion on war thunder players leaking secrets

[finite imp]

Good choice. Dont

[forest blaze]

Tarantula frend

[grave cargo]

So I myself get a little more than a month off each year, always a week and a half for christmas and new years

[mystic belfry]

🤔 I became an underwater welder for ten years instead, recently switch jobs though

[finite imp]

I'm a radar tech and a ballistic missile defense specialist

[serene sage]

that's kinda wild, I thought it was like secret but not "top" top

[finite imp]

It's a lot less cooler than it sounds

[mystic belfry]

Oh yeah, block this missile then

[grave cargo]

I don't work for the military I work with the military

[finite imp]

People are like oh you stop nuclear war yeah if we were in nuclear war which were not so

[grave cargo]

Ahh, blood money

[finite imp]

I just sit there

F A

[mystic belfry]

Good strat

[finite imp]

FCA

What's the b stand for

[forest blaze]

Bitch

[grave cargo]

Side tangent

[forest blaze]

Wait

[finite imp]

Gottem

How many years

[grave cargo]

This new tree makes DPS vet very good at both ranged and melee

[finite imp]

Nice

[grave cargo]

AND it makes you tanky

[forest blaze]

Like a combat controller?

[finite imp]

I feel like all military jobs just sound cooler than they are

[forest blaze]

My mom did that in desert storms

[grave cargo]

All jobs sound cooler than they are

[finite imp]

How many years you in now

[forest blaze]

Yah she moved from electronic warfare to combat control

[finite imp]

Commissioned?

[mystic belfry]

Underwater welding is actually pretty cool, cold really, most of the time

[finite imp]

Well hot dog

Get this pussy out of my fucking face.

Lmao jk

[forest blaze]

Lmao

[grave cargo]

This + Confirmed Kill and Exhilirating Takedown is actually fucking cracked again, reminds me of old Vet.

[finite imp]

Yeah naw y'all ain't doing SHIT lucky

I'm on shore command now tho

So things are less traumatic

[brisk sapphire]

O is exhilarating takedown good now

Guess I'll dabble with that

[grave cargo]

It's been good

It's just weapon dependent

[forest blaze]

I heard submarine dudes are a different breed

[brisk sapphire]

Thought that was the one that was bugged

Maybe I'm mixed up

[grave cargo]

Oh well yes they did fix that too

[south garnet]

it's not bugged now

[versed merlin]

bro what is this spawn?

[finite imp]

Ehhh

They're deff odd ones

[grave cargo]

Go left

[forest blaze]

Go right

[finite imp]

They're like cave dwellers

[versed merlin]

o ty

[forest blaze]

Yah that’s what it was

[serene sage]

yeah that happens a lot on that map, that med station is usable like once

[grave cargo]

Everyone in the navy is insane

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/going-insane-cat-insane-gif-21711418

[grave cargo]

I can say this with 100% confidence, that everyone who is ex navy I have ever worked with has been a fucking insane person

[forest blaze]

Too bad there’s no daemonhost crowning like L4D2 witches

[finite imp]

I may be a little unhinged

[grave cargo]

I have worked with a lot of ex Navy people.

[serene sage]

why is everyone here military or military related lmao

[forest blaze]

Americaaaaaa

[serene sage]

no civies?

sadge

[grave cargo]

God

[south garnet]

it's specifically the nuclear engineers on subs that speak in some other-dimensional language and seem to exist in another reality

[grave cargo]

Fucking

The most insane one, let's call him Navy

[forest blaze]

I believe it

[finite imp]

First person shooter game where you're mowing down unarmored combatants. The military loves this

[grave cargo]

Navy was 5 feet tall, and 200 pounds fat

[mystic belfry]

No actually, it's a religious game

[grave cargo]

He would tell you a story about the time he watched someone die at least once a month

Each time, the story would be slightly different.

[forest blaze]

And don’t need the UN

[bitter turtle]

this but unironically

[finite imp]

The empra signed my ROE

[brisk sapphire]

Tumblr peeps say 40k attracts far right types, but haven't seen that myself yet

[mystic belfry]

Don't be silly, the military bombs unarmored combatants

[zealous wyvern]

why though?

[grave cargo]

Sometimes it was a woman being killed by a snapped crane wire, sometimes she fell off the boat, one time she got crushed by a crate

[finite imp]

I wasn't being fucking ironic 💀

[serene sage]

I have never heard that stereotype

[grave cargo]

Fucking hell that guy was weird

[mystic belfry]

You're inherently ironic

[tawny glen]

that stereotypes been around for a long time

[willow badger]

what do? I got both dumdum and firefrenzy

[grave cargo]

He once approached me after work in the parking lot and asked if I was single

[finite imp]

Expand

[serene sage]

we do attract a bunch of edge lords, just by cvuirtue of how the universe is

[tawny glen]

and ive seen ppl reinforce that stereotype

[grave cargo]

I was terrified

[serene sage]

but edge lords are different from far rights

[grave cargo]

What he said next left me even more confused, because when I told him I was in fact single, he suggested I marry a "Fillapeena woman"

[finite imp]

Is your question why would I try to stop a nuke?

[grave cargo]

"White women ain't no good"

[zealous wyvern]

yeah

[mystic belfry]

https://bigmemes99.funnyjunk.com/comments/+_fd0cf451cc289d4d4ea0d80bb8fb0301.mp4

[serene sage]

i guess you ain't wrong

[grave cargo]

I was just, like, what

[forest blaze]

I’m a full blooded anarchist at this point……………..

[zealous wyvern]

seems weird

[finite imp]

leans in real close I wouldn't

[grave cargo]

That shit haunted me my entire weekend I couldn't stop thinking about it

[zealous wyvern]

good yes

[grave cargo]

Who starts a conversation like that

[zealous wyvern]

one step closer to my dream

[finite imp]

I don't think that's a dream you want

If nuclear war happens pray your in the epicenter

[serene sage]

some people are dumb but you don't have to spend a weekend thinking about it lol

[finite imp]

College boy

[grave cargo]

It just kept popping up in my mind

[finite imp]

But he's right

[forest blaze]

I plan on living forever like a fallout ghoul

[grave cargo]

Tryin to talk to my friends, all I could think about was "fillapeena women"

[mystic belfry]

No, I want to be just far enough away from the nuke to barely survive with immense burns and then die panfully of radiation poisoning over about a week

Thanks

[serene sage]

bruh

[forest blaze]

Same

[zealous wyvern]

but in krieg they become super amazing elite troops

you cant talk me out of this

[serene sage]

no 😦 ill wait for sale

[grave cargo]

It was like I had been approached by an Oblivion NPC

[mystic belfry]

Same probably

[serene sage]

is it replayable?
like XCOM knda of replayable?

[forest blaze]

💀

[zealous wyvern]

Have you heard of the time I saw someone die?

[serene sage]

the thing is XCOM combat is grindy but at least the grind is fun as hell

[grave cargo]

One time I thought he was gonna go postal

[zealous wyvern]

nothing id like to talk about

[serene sage]

I heard Rogue Trader combat is a bit more slow

[grave cargo]

Fucker woke up at like, 3am

He was built different and drank 3 monsters a day

So in the mornings he was chipper

We were all waking up, and he got offende dby that

[forest blaze]

I love xcom. The game cheats so hard and it drives me to win at it’s own rigged shit

[serene sage]

it cheats for you though

[brisk sapphire]

approaches you with intent
Goodbye

you too

[zealous wyvern]

pay with your blood

[brisk sapphire]

I like how brainrotted Oblivion interactions are

[torn moat]

Any suggestions for a good HH build? Haven't played since the latest patch this week.

[forest blaze]

Nonono because if I’m doing well it’s because I’m amazing. If I lose it’s because they’re cheating.

[serene sage]

ah true
i forgor

that's how gaming works

[night sparrow]

scrusher 3 or decimator 4 on mk 3 shovel? other blessing is uncanny

[forest blaze]

Exactly

[cinder plinth]

exactly

[spark helm]

Had some fun with an infiltrate support build. What's some fun stuff people like to do for melee focus? Never really built one for it specifically besides chainsword/chainaxe shenanigans.

Was thinking of either sticking with this knife for the fun of it or sliding into axe or idk some psword shit but i get bored it sometimes.

[brisk sapphire]

Feel like skrusher shines more on ogryn, but Im not a vet shovel afficiando

[bitter turtle]

I'm gonna try skull and uncanny on mk3

[spark helm]

Couldn't be me.

[south garnet]

pubs are literally killing me

[spark helm]

Never signing up for that shit

[south garnet]

I can feel my arteries tightening

[serene sage]

But you are EU 😄

[brisk sapphire]

Think my vet shovel is BM/uncanny

[spark helm]

What makes you think that?

[serene sage]

I though you said that at some point

[finite imp]

It's VERY crpg

[bitter turtle]

What to pair with sc then

Limbsplitter?

Ya

[spark helm]

Nah, I just don't really narrow down where I'm from. Internet scary.

[bitter turtle]

If not rend

Oh

[finite imp]

looks around and gestures to everything

[serene sage]

my hallucination then

[spark helm]

You're completely fine. Me am no one nowhere. :U

[south garnet]

ONE single auric dam qp that isn't filled with fucking idiots is all I ask

[spark helm]

But closest I might get to public service that weaves in with law enforcement and by proxy the military is through medical stuff. That's about it.

[outer mulch]

Well gang. The fire has me so tilted that im taking a couple months off

[toxic leaf]

this roll makes me feel funny things in my pants

[spark helm]

Otherwise, fuck the official affiliation. /shrug

[willow badger]

what should i throw on there

both dum dum

[finite imp]

Unhinged

[toxic leaf]

flak/maniac imo

at least flak and then whatever you want

[willow badger]

bet

[bitter turtle]

Ur dum dum

Gottem

[toxic leaf]

oh you already have it

jesus christ

[formal relic]

what all does fan mode on the new revolver do? just accuracy and rate of fire?

[spark helm]

https://tenor.com/view/guilty-gear-destroyed-instant-kill-sol-badguy-gif-23533201

[toxic leaf]

yea you put dumdum on and laugh

god roll

[willow badger]

thanks

swap stripped down for dumdum?

[toxic leaf]

crit chance is awesome for iag5

[spark helm]

Speaking of guilty gear, new character for strive dropped. Old one but uh she's great so who cares.

[bitter turtle]

There's better rolls than crit imo

[spark helm]

Fun veeboe gadm

[bitter turtle]

It's passable

Ye

Ephelt back

Yee

Except I don't like strive lul

[brisk sapphire]

Yea thunderous bleed interaction still a thing as far as I know

[spark helm]

I love the aesthetic pivot. Big hype

[bitter turtle]

Yes

[brisk sapphire]

Which is why I run thunderous/skrusher on ogryn basher

[bitter turtle]

Crit is ok

Not the best

[brisk sapphire]

IAG have like the best headshot DPS for whatever reason

[spark helm]

It's uh, very different from the way gg has developed over its entire length. I actually love how iwata got allowed to use fighting games for his big fucking rock love letter project lmao

I just don't really like how strive flows as a game that's borrowing from other stuff that's popular at the moment.

Street fighter is great but not everything needs to translate through it imo. Main way how strive feels: anime sfv sort of.

[bitter turtle]

Crit is insane ye but the perk is so small

[spark helm]

I like my clown car anime fighting games.

8ighting deserves more projects lmao

[bitter turtle]

I remember when bb was considered the babby game

And now strive gets memed on

[spark helm]

I used to be in that camp but I was sore that gg was gone for so long tbh lol

[bitter turtle]

Lol

[spark helm]

Bb is wildly incredible as a franchise. Pisses me off to no end but it's fun.

[bitter turtle]

I'm looking forward to the 3 on 3 tho

Kinda

I'm a marvel player lol

[spark helm]

For what?

[bitter turtle]

Strive announced a 3 on 3 mode no?

[spark helm]

Oh you mean just tag fighters period?

[bitter turtle]

It will probably be more like kof tho

[spark helm]

Oh I never knew. I actually don't keep up with fg news too deeply. I just dive into them when they drop

[bitter turtle]

Ya but I don't like bb tag or dbfz lol

[spark helm]

That's fine. They're not for everyone

[bitter turtle]

So idk only mahvel baby

Only other game I play a lot is unist

[spark helm]

I kind of hate bbtag for what it felt like but could really get into the deeper systems. I just, didn't really like how the---

[spark helm]

https://tenor.com/view/nichijou-blank-stare-stare-anime-mio-naganohara-gif-24979431

Who?

[bitter turtle]

Lol

[celest vine]

Cool under stress reload

[spark helm]

Who do you like?

[bitter turtle]

Orie

[spark helm]

You're a bully, a scoundrel and a thief.

[bitter turtle]

Boring I know

[spark helm]

Shame

[bitter turtle]

I pick based on the character I like rather than playstyle

[spark helm]

Orie is fun. I don't get to talk much because I like Seth even when he was full blown struggle bus.

[bitter turtle]

Orie is cute

So I learn her

[spark helm]

I still mostly do but I've been back to learning tekken and hopping between strive, sf6 and older stuff.

[bitter turtle]

My husband is big on tekken

I play sometimes

Lili

[spark helm]

I only know people who either just play--

Lol yeah checks out

[bitter turtle]

Does it

[spark helm]

No shade, it's just a thing

[stable oak]

what's the meta pee sword and pee sword blessings

[bitter turtle]

If I played rich white girls

Shouldn't I be Wagner main

[spark helm]

Okay full meme/sincere joke: plenty of people I know sincerely that are just like, queer, femmes all that good shit.

There is a Lili splinter cell, somewhere, everywhere.

[candid tundra]

hello everyone, just asking, what are the best blessings for the new revolver?

[spark helm]

They're like a fucking task force lmao

You find one Lili main, you find another cell

[stable oak]

nice

just got this

[spark helm]

There's like 40 more in the area lol

[atomic zephyr]

handcannon crucian

[candid tundra]

rather than trickshooter?

[spark helm]

Ah yes, muh blonde euros with backflips and Victorian skirts.

[candid tundra]

is that bosskilling revolver you showed still possible?

[gritty dock]

What is the difference between one and the other and which is better?
Do both blessings work the same?
Applies to Tactical Axe.

• Decimator
  Continuously chaining more than 2 attacks gives +2-5% Power. Stacks 10 times.
• Headtaker
  +3.5-5% Power for 3.5s on Hit. Stacks 5 times.

[spark helm]

Catch this nepobaby mix

[terse shell]

day 30 of checking melk, no power cycler IV to be seen

screw melk

[candid tundra]

me too pal, me too

btw is this thing bricked

low crit bonus

[celest vine]

The new chainsword is great, try that

[nocturne mulch]

Why bromentum?

[gritty dock]

Thank you very much.

[candid tundra]

idk lol, just haven't been able to get my hands on a revolver to try it

[nocturne mulch]

Doesnt it already cleave through everything when charged?

[celest vine]

Sunder works too

[nocturne mulch]

Dont charged attacks ignore armor anyway?

[torn moat]

Anyone have a good HeadHunter Autogun build?

[acoustic wyvern]

anything that lets you hit more is so good

[candid tundra]

@formal lake only thing I'll bother you with further is on the trickshooter/handcannon debate, why do you prefer the former over the latter?

[sharp ember]

it used to at the launch of the game, but now there is an upper limit. the Sunder blessing brings that back though

[nocturne mulch]

Can you do that with mk3 heavies?

I can't remember it ever feeling mk3 heavies arent cleaving everything

[formal relic]

Anyone have thoughts on what to do with this? I feel like upgrading both perks is the way to go?

[nocturne mulch]

But it already 1 hits everything

[candid tundra]

good roll

imo

[nocturne mulch]

Hmmm

[mystic belfry]

Well it kinda changes cleave. Basically your cleave "counter" doesn't stop until brutal momentum stops working

[nocturne mulch]

I'm going to have to test

[mystic belfry]

But it changes cleave in that it tells it to fuck off for a little while

[sharp ember]

bm is insane for increasing killed enemies per swing

[mystic belfry]

So many people have been trying to tell me sunder still kills 6-9 enemies per swing :)

Rashad slaps

[celest vine]

Yes

[gritty dock]

I understand that on a sword it is the best blessing because you hit a group of opponents.
But is it as strong on Axes that hit a single target?

[celest vine]

Counter point

[mystic belfry]

Even without unarmore damage, it only takes what, two stacks of headtaker?

[mystic belfry]

Not a fan of chainsword tbh

[celest vine]

No its his armor

[candid tundra]

is this thing even worth using?

I could replace somethings

but idk

[celest vine]

Also new chainsword is really really good

Its all horizontal attacks

[mystic belfry]

Swap ranged damage for maniac, barrage to roulette, and you have a boss killing meme

That said, I really like 70+ critical bonus on that

So I wouldn't keep it myself

[celest vine]

Add in shred for extra crit chance and any cleave blessing and everything dies

[candid tundra]

yeah so should I remove it though?

[celest vine]

I have consistently staggered ragers too

[candid tundra]

I'd want it too

[mystic belfry]

is it your only fanfire revolver atm?

if so just change it like I said

[candid tundra]

correct

ok so change to have one to use

and get a better one

[mystic belfry]

Poxwalker damage to maniac, barrage to roulette

Exactly

[candid tundra]

thanks

[mystic belfry]

Original revolver is absolutely better

I just like the new one

[candid tundra]

I haven't been able to try one out yet, that's why I'm worrying about the one I just sent

it's finally the only semi-high roll I got my hands onto

[mystic belfry]

heh

[finite imp]

For the next 5 minutes let's talk about lawn care

[mystic belfry]

it's a solid roll, it's just not the best roll

I have a kinda curse builld that I'm kind of liking

[nocturne mulch]

Post nerf bayonet could do what you did in that video

[candid tundra]

the build with this was like a PURE dps build, right?

[nocturne mulch]

If they were spread out axe would be better though

[finite imp]

Yes he built a tard cannon build

[grave cargo]

You can do something very similar with a lotta builds actually lol

[candid tundra]

I'm not sure what I would run on a build with this thing

I'm gonna have a go and see if I make a good one

I'll come back shortly

[grave cargo]

You can hit like, 20k damage on a boss with Zealot

[mystic belfry]

This

[candid tundra]

do you need exec?

[finite imp]

One day Azreal will one shot the world

[grave cargo]

Psure it's taking all the damage buffs and backstab build

Which is very omegalul

[candid tundra]

for new revolver?

[mystic belfry]

mhmm

[candid tundra]

I'll give it a go

[mystic belfry]

ye

I did say kinda-cursed

You can swap the weapon specialist reload for it

mhmm

[grave cargo]

You can actually get decent toughness without iron will

[serene sage]

Did they fix the bugged Weapon Specialist and Exec Stance interaction?

[grave cargo]

Iron will just takes you from being able to take a hit to being able to tank hits

[candid tundra]

is the reload speed (fleeting fire, volley adept) really that necessary?

[mystic belfry]

No.

I just like the meme of instantly dumpstering a spawn of ragers

[grave cargo]

Volley adept is pretty insane on auric

You get it every reload

[finite imp]

Fleeting fire is really fun and good tho

[jade notch]

Didn't manage to save the results but Columnus Mk V IAG with Exec Stance + Marksman Focus is pretty fun. Pretty good for wiping out Elite Packs.

[mystic belfry]

Swap the rleoad perks for toughness on weapon swap and iron will

It's better, that's a partly meme build

[grave cargo]

The only issue with volley adept is it’s competing with exhilarating

[candid tundra]

altered it

thoughts?

[ivory rock]

[candid tundra]

grabbed weakpoint dmg

[mystic belfry]

I don't feel like reading three images ngl

[grave cargo]

I do not ever make use of agile engagement

[candid tundra]

:/

[grave cargo]

I know it's great but, I just never use it

[mystic belfry]

Catch a Breath -> Get Back in the Fight!

[candid tundra]

that's it?

everything else looks good?

[grave cargo]

Man Precision Strikes is such a good value point now

[finite imp]

no you're fucked

[candid tundra]

what

[finite imp]

im jk

[candid tundra]

ok

[grave cargo]

weakspot/headshot damage was such a meme they finally got tired of the memes and made it usable

[mystic belfry]

Seems okay. I don't think weakspot + exe stance is needed though.

I've also considered swapping to krak for bulwurks, but generally revolver bash into fanfire is fine

[grave cargo]

Ok give me a chain axe build for vet

I feel like suffering

[mystic belfry]

Just a normal melee build of choice

[grave cargo]

Suffering please

Waiter

Your finest CBT please

[mystic belfry]

k

[grave cargo]

I said CBT not CBR

[finite imp]

solid build

[serene sage]

I like, simple yet very versatile

[grave cargo]

What the fuck do you even want for chain axe blessings

[torn moat]

Thrust

[grave cargo]

I haven't touched one since patch 7

[serene sage]

Wait you how did you know my true level

[lofty lintel]

it has been 24 hours without darktide im genuinely losing my marbles

[torn moat]

Thrust and Slaughter I assume... Or that +10 bleed stacks blessing.

[tall torrent]

When’s the next shop rotation coming

[elder vessel]

Headtaker Slaughterer

[mystic belfry]

here ya go

[elder vessel]

Heavies just go through everything since they got a cleave buff

[grave cargo]

No thrust eh?

[mystic belfry]

It's your life

[elder vessel]

Headtaker Slaughterer

Thats my chain axe

i got inquisitors looking over me shoulder ever since I got it

[mystic belfry]

Also, always use old laspistol

I will die on this hill

[grave cargo]

I'm a brauto kinda guy

[mystic belfry]

You can also swap grenades to any of the three

[elder vessel]

Based

[mystic belfry]

They're all semi-useful on this build

[grave cargo]

Thanks Hadron

[mystic belfry]

Thunderous is good

[mystic belfry]

Zoom meta

Can't

[grave cargo]

does that actually do something

[spark helm]

I'm a fiend for default loadouts. Any suggestions for a standard issue shovel? The object is to at least before directly focusing on a melee build that I can at least three shot ragers.

[mystic belfry]

Just run it with a support build and a plasma

[spark helm]

This is the one I'm stuck with atm

[spark helm]

I mean I'm just running this and a solid la lasgun.

[grave cargo]

I fucking wish I knew this before

[spark helm]

The main dmg is coming from the lasgun which is fine, mostly went left tree then grabbed most of the middle bottom tier talents.

[grave cargo]

God

So many trashed weapons

[south garnet]

all that plasteel, gone

[grave cargo]

Why would they DESIGN it like that

[south garnet]

like beers in the drain

[grave cargo]

FUCKING

I'm fine I'm fine

[mystic belfry]

Nothing about this crafting system is good

Litterally nothing, not even one feature of it

[grave cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/im-fine-im-ok-hercules-hades-okay-fine-gif-17729513

That's fucking dumb

And I hate it

What

[spark helm]

@mystic belfry Still interested in anything you could say aobut it if you want.

[mystic belfry]

Shovel is kind of ambivelant to builds. Just make a good lasgun build

[spark helm]

haymaker 4 is really nice for giving me room but I can't re-bless and I don't have a lot for the standard shovel blessing pool.

[mystic belfry]

Do you need help wit hthat?

[spark helm]

Nah I figured that that's the case since that's usually what it comes down to.

I even juiced the shredder nades just for extra trash mob clear help.

[mystic belfry]

Do you like exe stance or shout

[spark helm]

I think you've seen me posting about it. I'm not worried about the talent spread mostly for la lasgun. Running Close Quarter Drill, Confirmed Kill, Relentless, Counter-Fire, Born Leader, Tactical Awareness, Iron Will and Demolition Team. On Damnation and higher with a better lasgun and switching up for krak grenades or something I'll just be able to either ditch marksman's focus if I don't like it enough to run focus target at minimum to steroid my specialist, elite ranged takedown rewards.

I turn my la lasgun into a vending machine within coherency is the idea as you know.

[mystic belfry]

Okay but do you like shout or exe stance

[spark helm]

The extra stuff I mentioned is for exe stance.

[elder vessel]

I swap between the two on mood

[spark helm]

Pop exe stance, highlight all shooters, kill all shooters, stall duration with grunt shooters, make space by clearing all shooters, give out grenades and toughness like candy.

[elder vessel]

FUCK ANYTHING OUTLINED IN YELLOW

[spark helm]

Only really struggle with ragers that break through and carapace that I'm not ready for in a cluster + tight space. But that's solved with a krak grenade and a psword with what I run the most these days.

[elder vessel]

I FUCKING HATE THE COLOR YELLOW

RAAAAAHHAHHAAAAAAAA

[grave cargo]

Aight yeah this thing fucks

[spark helm]

And at that point I just run Focus Target as a variant and drill shit harder than I already do.

[grave cargo]

It's not even close to optimal

What a glow up

[spark helm]

Yeah that's a safe rounded one for sure.

[mystic belfry]

That's what I would build for the combo

Could take shock trooper too, your preference

[hidden summit]

Just joined the vet class after playing my oggy to like 130 or something. Any leveling builds?

[mystic belfry]

las pistol and any good melee you enjoy

Go for Voice of Command

[spark helm]

That spread even without me knowing breakpoints and numbers is what I'd probably go for with better stuff yeah. Only thing I'd change streictly for myself is taking toughness gen over dmg on focus target BUT, at that point with the weapon and blessing spread, free dmg is free dmg.

[mystic belfry]

lvl 16 vet

[elder vessel]

Brauto
Chain axe
Helbore
Plasma
Shotgun

Use VoC or Exes Stance, but don't use infiltrate (it poopy)
ALWAYS USE SURVIVALIST

Fire Team and Close and Kill do literally nothing

[spark helm]

I'd definitely need to learn how to play with Deadshot more fluidly becuase sometimes I overdo it but the melee setup is nice and feeds into the loop you're going for with this. I like it.

I'll save it and try it out when I get a better deadly accurate for my lasgun.

[sudden dome]

graia braced with survivalist will let you shoot an infinite amount of ammo so you never have to melee, use that to speed run missions until damnation where it falls off

[mystic belfry]

Being low stam is actually a good thing with All or Nothing

Shovel doesn't need to block either

[spark helm]

Mhm. I haven't played with the blessing yet but I can see it for sure.

[mystic belfry]

heavies and special are plenty of stagger

[spark helm]

I might...actually have it. Lemme check.

[mystic belfry]

occasionally push block to keep stam empty

push attack, I mean

Push attack is your best single target attack as well
alternative push attack and special to keep em staggered

[spark helm]

fuck i can't check my blessings in game and don't have the mods to do it.

Can't even afford a grey shovel.

what have i become

[mystic belfry]

:v

[elder vessel]

The dichotomy of Vet Metas

[spark helm]

You know what?

With this build I can farm dmanation for money fuck it.

[mystic belfry]

mhmm

[elder vessel]

Abilities so good you cant live without it, and abilites so bad you might as well forfeit the ability

[spark helm]

I was supposed to start my Zealot relevel today but vet is vet and I'm an addict so whatever.

New zealot while leveling feels fantastic though. Even better than og and pre-overhaul.

Even more explosive

[candid tundra]

so I tried the fanfire revolver

everyone died immediately

[sudden dome]

you can level your zealot and then use the cash you get from leveling it for new weapons thats what I did

[candid tundra]

and I couldn't shoot anything further than 30 feet

lol

[sudden dome]

zealot needs a surgical revolver thats it

so its really cheap

[spark helm]

You just reminded me how this game works lmao.

I can legit just never buy anything on my zealot. Horde everything, clear all the little side quests while leveling, etc.

[elder vessel]

*flamer and an evis

[sudden dome]

ew and ew

[pine snow]

thunder hammer

[sudden dome]

either combat axe mk2 or claw

[elder vessel]

eviscerator my beloved

[spark helm]

And can put them on the backburner if I'm not satisfied with my current vet arsenal yet then run the psyker and ogryn oding the exact same thing/

[elder vessel]

Flamer my beloved

[spark helm]

veeboe gaming

I'm so excited to level a psyker after all these patches.

god

[sudden dome]

flamer literally kills chaff slower than my axe

[spark helm]

They are not the kind of struggle they feltl ike in launch darktide

[elder vessel]

It does so in holy fire

So its better

[spark helm]

They weren't bad at all to level but their power spikes were so significant that I just noticed that when the power spike couldn't keep up before optimizing I hated psyker somewhat

Still a beautiful class though

[sudden dome]

while I want to play a praise zorg build Id rather just chop things up

[spark helm]

All my friends that have been playing Psyker while leveling from 1 into the class overhaul aren't like fighting with their own class to perform before just them making mistakes and all that

so I'm enthusiastic as hell

[elder vessel]

Lately

[spark helm]

hopefully the class overhaul helps me learn to love ogryn beyond very specific weapons.

[mystic belfry]

new eviscerator is nice

[elder vessel]

I've been taking scriers gaze

[spark helm]

I want a pit fighter ogryn style.

[elder vessel]

And my cutlass

Pop gaze and slash away for as long as I can

[spark helm]

Crowd Killer Mosh Tank build lmao.

[pine snow]

im addicted to zapping things w/ surge staff

its so satisfying

[midnight patrol]

Is it just me or is hit reg even worst than ever with the latest update.

[finite imp]

is the graia braced worth a damn

[spark helm]

I heard scyrer feels much better. I always noticed when scryer was working when I actually learned how to use it but would have to really stress myself with assail and gun/melee swapping to keep it up

[elder vessel]

Yes

[midnight patrol]

I remember blood splatter only shots being rare. But now I'm forced to double tap with my Vraks mk7 constantly because shit is getting that bad.

[elder vessel]

I use it all the time

[spark helm]

And the dmg window buildup was hella clusterfucky to me. That's the point with that playstyle but it felt far too unstable to actually roll with instability of risky resource use to be the main way to go off of it.

Plus I didn't have a force sword that ran peril blessings so /shrug

[sudden dome]

2.2k dps on short ranged flak on a crit build

[finite imp]

kk what do

[sudden dome]

thats good

get flak

always get flak

[spark helm]

I couldn't go nuts with a peril ramp berserker sort of playstyle well. Maybe some stuff has changed so I'll wait and see.

[finite imp]

kk

[sudden dome]

the blessings are good though

[midnight patrol]

Wait. Os Fire Frenzy still a damage buff?

[sudden dome]

just get flak and tier 4 deathspitter

or something else

that doesnt stack

wheres the stackingone

[finite imp]

death spitter stacks

i didnt believe it either but it has a 5 stack

[sudden dome]

oh good

you can swap deathspitter for tier 4 speedloader too

youre going to need it to get rid of all the ammo

im not joking I literally cant get rid of it fast enough

[elder vessel]

Don't swap for speedloader

Keep da damage

[sudden dome]

the damage wont matter 70% of the time

speedloader in a rager pack is life or death

[elder vessel]

Blah blah blah shut up nerd

🤓

[sudden dome]

alright maybe youll understand this, speedloader is more dakka, less no dakka

[elder vessel]

Damage bro

I get more dakka for every boolet dakka'd

[finite imp]

DAKKA

[hidden summit]

Will keep this in mind

[sudden dome]

braced graia, use it, love it

[elder vessel]

Grauto Gang

[sudden dome]

secondary fire only

[hidden summit]

I’m assuming grauto is the graia auto?

[sudden dome]

braced auto is brauto, graia is grauto

[hidden summit]

Or something. Don’t know weapon names yet lol

I’ve been loving the revolver so far.

[sudden dome]

not on vet

[elder vessel]

Against the incomprehensible horrors of the Warp
Against all the evil of the stars beyond
We will stand against them
With 7.62

[sudden dome]

on any other class fine but vet has so many ranged kill blessings its a waste

[stark hollow]

is dumdum BiS for laspistol

[grave cargo]

Guys someone translate

[eternal sable]

:3

[serene sage]

probably asking if he did well with Psykine Shield and Smite support

best I got

[grave cargo]

Ah!

Of course

[eternal sable]

aww yeah that guys cute

tell him he did well

[serene sage]

Support Psykers are my favorite teammates

[eternal sable]

so sweet of him to ask

"hey was i useful ? :3"

[limber fractal]

Is the modifiers decent enough/rating or should I keep rolling?

[eternal sable]

keep rolling man

[limber fractal]

ty ^^

[eternal sable]

high damage pen and crit bonus, you can have mobility and reload speed as the dump stat on the agripinaa

it reloads all 5 bullets at once, thats why 😛

[limber fractal]

ooooh

lets keep rolling then lol

[vale kelp]

What exactly is the difference between the combat axes? other than the damage? Im looking for a melee weapon i pull out only for crushers or bosses.

[sterile garnet]

I use powersword for that

[eternal sable]

melee patern

[sterile garnet]

You can 2 shot crushers with psword

[eternal sable]

the antax v is a horizontal sweepish where a rashad is a strikedown

buy a few and test

[sudden dome]

the mk2 rashad is horizontal enough to get the 4 limit for brutal momentum

[mystic belfry]

if you want crusher/boss damage try either of the new shovels or power sword 6

Rashad is also great

[sudden dome]

with fury you shread chaff and you still killelites

[mystic belfry]

But while rashad has okay boss damage it's main thing is anti-horde

[sudden dome]

which is honestly what vet needs, you have enough mixed horde stuff on your gun

and bosses are pretty easy

[mystic belfry]

Rashad does mixed horde well too

[grave cargo]

Anyways this is why I enjoy Brauto

Also enjoy my keyboard

[candid tundra]

can I do anything with this emp gift or is it dogshit lmao

[finite imp]

Okay so the graia is funny

i think i just need to tweak the build

[dusk idol]

?????

1400 hp and the flamer lives with 1 hp

[sudden dome]

I needed to stop using it because I would practically never pull out my melee

now I have the opposite problem

[finite imp]

thats exactly what happened in that test match

and then some clown descided to suicide

[astral blade]

Seems legit

[feral lake]

Anyone else have there character do a trick sometimes when inspecting a knife

[sudden dome]

thats why Im saying speedloader, you have so much ammo the only way to get rid of it is to reload faster

[astral blade]

That Tox flamer is on its last legs ayyyy

[atomic zephyr]

shoving it should kill it

[astral blade]

Sneezing on it would kill it

[ocean moat]

Which is the better of the new shovels?

[whole moon]

Rashad has a Finesse stats that improves power and attack speed. Antax doesnt, both decent, I prefer Rashad

[sharp ember]

the mk3 shovel has been noted to recover faster from a folded heavy than the mk7, but i feel it's more down to moveset preference

i like the mk7 push attack a lot because it's a overhead chop

[ocean moat]

Whats the difference in movesets? Like general differences

[frail bolt]

WOW

THAT WAS BULL

fuckin pc crashed just as i was gonna finish mission

auric damnation no less

[sharp ember]

mk3: lights mostly horde-clear sweeps, heavies 1 sweep 1 overhead
mk7: lights half sweep, half strikedown. heavies only horde-clear sweeps

they perform pretty closely

[mystic belfry]

I feel like 3s better on pick, 7 is better on anti-horde

[serene sage]

do you have mods?

[mystic belfry]

Not a huge difference, but its thr

[serene sage]

I am crashing a lot as well and trying to pinpoint the problem

[mystic belfry]

I haven't been crashing, I can give you my mod list if that would help narrow things

[serene sage]

yeah would you mind

[sharp ember]

i have been having a good time with the mk7 shovel, just upgraded a mk3 to take it for a spin

[idle pecan]

So are any of the shotguns viable at all?

[mystic belfry]

Ys

[serene sage]

okay so it's not scoreboard crashing

that's good to know

[mystic belfry]

All of them

[sharp ember]

i've been using this on a crit build to economically bleed out elite packs from any distance

pretty comfy in regular damnation

[idle pecan]

wish we had a laz shotgun

[sharp ember]

not my style to bring into auric

[acoustic wyvern]

i had the same shotgun and blessing

but its weird cause its a bit too accurate

to get the crit blessing to proc

[mystic belfry]

Well, that was a game

Feels good to be back on tac axe zealot tbh, even if I prefer vet these days

Comfy as hell

[crisp bronze]

I'm too addicted to the Shovels and Power Swords to play other classes sadly. I made a Zealot cause I play a pretty melee heavy Vet but something about the Shovels and Power Swords clicks with me. Maybe I just need to try more Zealot weapons.

[mystic belfry]

Tac is my favorite atm, but I’m grinding to make a new evis

[nocturne mulch]

Build?

[finite imp]

do shovels have good armor pen

[celest vine]

[finite imp]

WELL THEN YOU BETTER GTFO

ZEALOT

[celest vine]

DO THEY

They absolutely do

[finite imp]

sick

[celest vine]

So much so you can one hit crushers

[finite imp]

not the foldy boys

the regular

[celest vine]

Mk3 special attack

[finite imp]

ill try a m3

mk3

[celest vine]

Folding shovel made the others irrelevant

[finite imp]

dang ok

[mystic belfry]

I'm a zealot regardless of the class i play :^)

[finite imp]

time to build new shovel

[finite imp]

banned

[celest vine]

The regular is good for horde control

I mean

It wont kill them immediately

Itll knock many down on hesvy attack

[mystic belfry]

Nope

[finite imp]

so mk3 is the best one?

for armor pen i mean

[celest vine]

It can annihilate single armored targets with ease

Get limbsplitter tho

[mystic belfry]

mk3 best for armor killing, original is best for horde clear, 7 is middle ground

[finite imp]

whats the best blessing

4 shuvel

[jade notch]

Which Shovel?

[tall torrent]

Uncanny + skullcrusher

Decimator is hard to maintain
And skullcrusher is consistent enough due to shovels just dealing a ton of stagger

Uncanny is free dmg

[mystic belfry]

Decimator is most useful on the original shovel

Even then kinda iffy

[tall torrent]

Decimator falls off literally the moment u stop hitting stuff

[mystic belfry]

Also, don't sleep on All or Nothing for a deadshot build

[tall torrent]

Just not consistent at all

[finite imp]

this is what i came up with

[novel stone]

What about for munitorum sword? I have power cycles and slaughter which is great

[tall torrent]

Power sword wants power cycler 4 + brutal momentum / sunder

[mystic belfry]

munitorum?

[hybrid river]

Power sword

[mystic belfry]

What 955 said

I favor BM significantly

[novel stone]

Sweet

[finite imp]

numbers cat

[crude ermine]

I would kill 20 trappers in a fisticuffs match for power cycler 4

[novel stone]

I like slaughtered though

But can't NOT use power cycler

[hybrid river]

Slaughterer is good but bm sends your damage output so much higher

[mystic belfry]

Someone should call the number cats name

[novel stone]

Whats bm?

[mystic belfry]

Brutal momentum

TL:DR, BM will kill significantly more enemies per swing, Sunder will stagger more per swing and aren't hitstopped by shields

[novel stone]

Sweet

[tall torrent]