veteran-class

[feral solstice]

hi friends, any good alternatives to plasma? trying to find alternative for variety with similar penetration + range but having trouble

[south garnet]

you SAVAGE

[terse idol]

Man vet chat looking at guns feels like the scene from American psycho looking at their cards

[finite imp]

literally anything

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-american-psycho-business-card-gif-25561759

[tall torrent]

Could try helbore lasguns

Zarona mk2 revolver as well

[finite imp]

revolver is the fun gun

[feral solstice]

ty. how is damage dropoff for helbore and iag?

[finite imp]

you wanna have fun dont you squidward

[dark sorrel]

wtf

Why doesnt run n gun reflect the buff its gotten

Its so fucking good now 😭

[tall torrent]

Revolver is my goof around gun while helbore is my serious need-to-win gun

[finite imp]

wait wym

[copper pine]

Las guns have inverse drop off, except for the recons

[feral solstice]

good to know, ty

[terse idol]

I did pick up an mk1 helbore vibing with it more than the mk3

[finite imp]

BROOOOOOOOOOOO UPDATE THE FUCKING TEXT DESCRIPTIONSSSSSSSSSSSS

[dark sorrel]

Difference between with run gun and without run gun

I have deadshot on

[nimble sentinel]

can I get run and gun on an iag?

[serene sage]

And among the recons, except for the VId

[nimble sentinel]

oh for fuck sake I might have to change my name again

[sharp ember]

huh, utterly forgot that was a thing

[south garnet]

Hey, Melk! Try getting a reservation at Carnival now, you stupid fucking bastard!

[dark sorrel]

I think its like bis for agripinaa revolver

[sharp ember]

does it let you reload while sprinting yet?

[dark sorrel]

Its just that good

[dark sorrel]

no

[finite imp]

Change it to Lasgun 'The Situation' Enthusiast

[tall torrent]

Helbore has sub-optimal dmg at close range but you can one shot most enemies on optimal build with headshots

IAGs are workhorse close-mid range weapons with good headshot damage

Also with helbore mk1 and mk2 you technically have 2 melee weapons (regular melee + helbore bayonet)

[nimble sentinel]

how bout Laslo Guns'a'Las

[sleek cairn]

are u saying this to bring psykers down

cuz it sure is strong.. on them

[feral solstice]

thanks! is bayonet melee damage still buggedly strong?

[sleek cairn]

it's their gun now. they can have it, we'll never touch it again

[wanton dawn]

[south garnet]

It's not bugged but it is still strong

[serene sage]

Ayo can you share the gunker build?

[tall torrent]

They patched limbsplitter but the bayonet still does serious work on most enemies (doesn’t work for maulers & crushers)

[south garnet]

(blessing exploits are gone)

[nimble sentinel]

ah beans

[tall torrent]

Brutal momentum still works

[sharp ember]

is this veteran going for the crotch

[terse idol]

Bayonet alone though slaaapps

[serene sage]

I mean ults and keystones ?

Scrier DD?

[nimble sentinel]

testicular tortion without the psyker powers

[south garnet]

you still work

[copper pine]

Normally yes

[feral solstice]

oki, so it sounds like helbore for plasma alternative long range contender (and zarona mk2.) any other gooduns capable of similarly dealing with bulwark and crusher?

[serene sage]

Boltgun?

[austere badger]

So anyone find some crazy builds for the new marks?

[finite imp]

which mod lets you save multiple builds

[nimble sentinel]

shovel can replace kraks

[tall torrent]

Helbore doesn’t kill bulwarks and crushers nearly as effectively as plasma but it doesn’t have ammo issues (basically ever) and can kill regular human enemies more efficiently

[feral solstice]

i had mentally cached that bolter was bad but not sure if that is tru

[austere badger]

The bolter just gets shafted by the current skill trees.

[tall torrent]

You can also bully ragers with bayonet still

[copper pine]

Not not bad, it just isn't top tier

[tall torrent]

Bayonet can turn rager groups into rager kebab

[crude wind]

Bolter is insane atm, people just haven't figured it out yet

[austere badger]

What's your build/concept?

[serene sage]

It can be a little bit of an acquired taste since its handling is weird

In term of damage and versatility it's great

[feral solstice]

interesting ty. feels like it gobbles ammo, any trick to it?

[south garnet]

don't magdump every horde

[tall torrent]

Hog up all the ammo

[copper pine]

Not full auto it unless you really need to

[tall torrent]

“Why did u take 34 ammo pickups guardsman”
“The emperor told me to”

[copper pine]

Play it like a dmr and it's pretty good

[crude wind]

I run it out of shout/marksman and it's reeeeeally strong.

[terse idol]

What is there to it?

[knotty herald]

[sleek cairn]

to be fair do we have any magdump guns

[south garnet]

On the other hand if you get lucky and have a shitty team that's dead all the time, you can run around magdumping your bolter to your heart's content, steamrolling walls of hard targets and picking up ammo all the time without remorse

[terse idol]

Like I feel like it's still just below revolver

[crude wind]

Also seen a build that runs it out of exec stance which has nutty breakpoints

[austere badger]

What does it do better than the other meta weapons?

[terse idol]

Even if revolver has fewer bullets its doing more than a bolter can

[feral solstice]

mm oki. maybe will try it out when not auric pug - i only melee on hordes and still am very stretched on ammo dealing with ragers, gunners, and maulers

[terse idol]

Mayybbe I'll try it with marksmen that sounds like it slaps

[tall torrent]

IAGs
Braced autoguns
Vraks3 if you’re into that
Recon lasguns if you’re just playing for fun

[serene sage]

Vs plasma revolver? the advantage is a bit niche, but plasma revolver is crazy strong so it's not a great comparision
it's a solid A or A+ weapon, not quite S imo

[austere badger]

The fanning was neat but the reload speed is wild on the new revolver. But the accuracy loss has me not using it.

[copper pine]

If you do an exe stance with marksman focus it does goofy damage

[crude wind]

Just very versatile. It has the long range breakpoints of a revolver but the crowd control of a bolter when you need it. And huge damage.

[sleek cairn]

i totally forgot about brautos

they truly are magdumps

[terse idol]

The accuracy loss isn't that big if you know how to land long range shots with plasma

Because it's very similar

[sleek cairn]

i dont magdump my columnus, just saying lol

[austere badger]

Doesn't the plasma fire straight without a cof?

[nimble sentinel]

aight columnus simps, why the IAG vs BRauto?

[feral solstice]

oki i will go play with things, ty all for info ❤️

[manic badger]

plasma is pinpoint accurate no matter what

that new revolver is not

[hollow ibex]

agri revolver

[sleek cairn]

heresy

[serene sage]

do you take Camoflague?

[south garnet]

vraks 3 magdump feels... bad, not good. Don't get me wrong I think it's a great gun, but the magdump on it is just gross in a not cool way

[serene sage]

I swear Bolter has the same issue with Plasma where headshots feel really inconsistent

[austere badger]

That's what I was saying. Doesn't really make his comment make sense. The new revolver is just not working for me due to accuracy issues.

[terse idol]

Yeahh, but I feel like aimed down fan revolver has a similar if not the same spread as aiming down plasma

I could be wrong though

[tall torrent]

Vraks3 magdumping is essentially you clicking m1 on heads until everything dies

[serene sage]

like half the times you swear you pop head and you dont
the other half you aren't trying and somehow yoy headshot

[manic badger]

if you have the crosshair remap mod try the ironsight chevron on plasma gun

[terse idol]

If you just align targets in the middle of an aimed down fan revolver I don't think you'll miss most shots

But I could be wrong

[manic badger]

im telling you that thing is pinpoint accurate with hipfire no matter whats happening to you

[terse idol]

Gotta play it more

[manic badger]

anybody tried the chain axes after the rework?

[austere badger]

The vraks and plasma seem to be the most useful with the current skill tree when you have a decent party.

[terse idol]

Oh I'm only aiming down for the ranged

[rancid tinsel]

howd I do on the new shovel?

[terse idol]

Left click has little variation

Yeah

[nimble sentinel]

[austere badger]

But now that ogryns have the shover we don't have as many stubber ogryns doing the shooting.

[austere badger]

Looks like you dug up a good one!

[tall torrent]

Great roll

[rancid tinsel]

only took me nearly all of my credits

and a prayer to the emperor of course

[sharp ember]

1 shot some crushers with that thing

[austere badger]

I used up all my luck and hadron wants me to pay back my loans first.

[sleek cairn]

nice!!

[crude wind]

Always. Just for consistency

[left zodiac]

what are features of each lasgun?
all I know is that Hellbore one that Krieg use if I remember

[elder vessel]

Helbore is a Sniper
Lasguns are DMRs

[terse idol]

Recon is bad

[sharp ember]

accatran recons are low recoil SMGs, but they're bad

[terse idol]

😌

[sleek cairn]

if helbore is a sniper, wuts my revolver?

[left zodiac]

is shovel good?

[elder vessel]

A revolver

[sharp ember]

a sniper that pulls out faster

[left zodiac]

yeah
revolver just needs a scope to be OP

[terse idol]

Yeah

[south garnet]

shovel and revolver are the only two vet weapons

[terse idol]

It is OP

Like, if you know how to aim down irons

Its OP

[left zodiac]

lower ammo and slow reload

[sleek cairn]

i wanted to like the shovel, but im stuck in my axe ways

[ocean idol]

I still can't decide between 2 laspistols

i have sneaky suspicion that old one outperforms new one

but i am nosure

[copper pine]

The new one is very good

[tall torrent]

Quickscope sniper

[terse idol]

Doesn't matter with weapon spec reloading your clip for you

[left zodiac]

I used the anti armor one
but I like shovel AOE for more enemies

[ocean idol]

new one seem to have way more powerful crits?

[left zodiac]

ooh
will check it
just started vet to try it out so not high level

[terse idol]

Yee

[sleek cairn]

but axe aoe is spectacular

[fair epoch]

How important is finesse on a combat knife

[terse idol]

Weapon spec shores up weaknessess the revolver may have

But you still need to find handcannon

[low oar]

Incredibly

[terse idol]

Surgical

[left zodiac]

how far is the skill for it so I dont miss it?

[sharp ember]

affects swing speed, crit chance, crit damage, very important

[terse idol]

Its the right most tree

[sharp ember]

headshot damage too?

[fair epoch]

So this isn't worth the pickup I'm assuming

[terse idol]

All the way near the bottom

[copper pine]

It also has pretty good stagger https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1057854953164656640/1182221489831940197/laspistolstagger.mp4?ex=6583e88f&is=6571738f&hm=43d3e83332d6168c208ef264048f889003329c1fa6493ea047f7350e47cf7f14&

[low oar]

It's probably fine to use. I'd just keep searching for later

[left zodiac]

any skills to avoid?
I know for zealot Loner is bad
anything for veteran?

[south garnet]

as far as I can tell, the mk 3 and the mk 7 shovel are both anti-armor - the primary way they seem to differ is the mk 3 special is faster, so you can follow up with a second special more quickly if you need to, and they have different attack patterns. Mk 7 actually appears to be slightly better at dealing with armor with normal swings, but not (as far as I can tell) significantly so

[sleek cairn]

its funny because I prefer mk3 shovel for single target, and caxe2 for AoE

[elder vessel]

my version

[terse idol]

Toughness share talent isn't useful I would skip it if you can

[elder vessel]

the first 3 talents at the top are the same

[ocean idol]

so is old one?

[left zodiac]

thats the middle?

[terse idol]

I should say

[ocean idol]

isee really problematic thing with these 2 laspistols

they both do same role

which means, 1 will b e better than the other

[terse idol]

Its the perk that says

you share any toughness you gain with allies in coherency

[left zodiac]

now
what grenade to go for?

[serene sage]

What gun is this that you don't need Determined?

[terse idol]

Depends on your primary

Are you using Pgun or revolver than shredder

[left zodiac]

will try revolver until I can try hellbore
Used some basic lasgun for now

[sleek cairn]

@left zodiac smoke grenades will teach u best habits.

[terse idol]

If you're using something lighter I would go Frak

[vague lintel]

what are people running on the new shovels

[nimble sentinel]

not necessarily true, old pistol is good for shooters with the new one good for elites. A preference thing

[copper pine]

If you can consistently get headshots, the new one is better

[terse idol]

If youre using las gun I would use shredder

[elder vessel]

whatever im usually feeling at the moment

[terse idol]

You need to try to shore up your weaknesses with your grenade choice

[elder vessel]

besides if im suprressed i can just fart and get +50 toughness

[terse idol]

Lasgun is bad vs hordes

So shredder is bettah

But you can make an argument for krak

Depends

[sleek cairn]

Smoke nades!!

[ocean idol]

Also so far i figured that old one better for bosses

But need more boss fights with new one

to be sure

[terse idol]

I do like smoke grenades for melee/weapon spec vet

[sleek cairn]

whenever i say smoke nades, ppl look at me like that special child at the back of class

[terse idol]

but it's controversial

[ocean idol]

with those old one is not that good as well

You know, i want to try smoke grenades with laspistols and raking fire

Throw it in some corner

and shoot all elites in the back

[terse idol]

If you smoke properly, I've found that gunners will bug out and not shoot and just run around inside the smoke confused

Which makes sense

[sleek cairn]

by properly u mean, throw it at them?

[terse idol]

Kinda...

[sleek cairn]

lol

[terse idol]

I maan yeah

[ocean idol]

There was post that explained how it works

it basically considered an obstacle by ai

[terse idol]

Yeah but like

Snipers ignore it

[ocean idol]

but when they are inside it, they basically ignore it

yes

[sleek cairn]

they dont ignore it, they reroute

[terse idol]

I thought when gunners are inside they just treat it like they're blind

[nimble sentinel]

What the frag did you just fraging say about me, you little karker? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Schola Progenium, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Chaos cultists, and I have over 40,000 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire Astra Militarum. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the frag out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this world, mark my fragging words. You think you can get away with saying that gak to me over the vox? Think again, fragger. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of assassins across the Imperium and your location is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fragging dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Astra Militarum and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the world, you little fragger. If only you could have known what holy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fragging tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will rain fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fragging dead, heretic.

[terse idol]

Throw it on a reaper and they get confused

[steep vault]

how do I improve it

[terse idol]

[frozen meadow]

what is the best all round shotgun rn?

[sleek cairn]

lasgun sux, vet sux, darktide sux

[terse idol]

Uh, get a new one, get higher finesse dump mobility

I'm sorry..m

[steep vault]

agrinappa

[terse idol]

Its not good

[copper pine]

Lawbringer

[sleek cairn]

@steep vault are you me!? We must compare pee pee right now. Tell me what gun you used last mission

[south garnet]

something cheap that tastes like piss like pabst

https://tenor.com/view/stone-cold-steve-austin-beer-drink-drinking-shotgun-gif-10778537

[steep vault]

Maxed Lucius II and a IV Devil's claw

[nimble sentinel]

don't lie, pabst tastes like the cheap copper tubing that bleeds into the booze

[sharp ember]

swap Rev it Up to Wrath, you need it since light attacks are your horde-clear on this mark

[sleek cairn]

excellent stuff. i like u

[south garnet]

crazy accurate

[steep vault]

alr

[sharp ember]

the perks are fine, but you can change something to flak if desired

[feral stratus]

Question, is competitive urge worth running?

[nimble sentinel]

like if your toast was made by Ea Nasir

[ocean idol]

Wat, Kantrael is the best, no?

[sharp ember]

perhaps maniac to flak, you can use Unyielding to bleed out monsters

and most maniac are weak to melee

[carmine cradle]

hello fellow vet enjoyers

what are your favorite builds?

[south garnet]

ew no way

[low oar]

Enjoy?

[carmine cradle]

yes

vet is FUN

[low oar]

Blasphemy

[south garnet]

gross

[carmine cradle]

shut it wesley

[sleek cairn]

Rashad. no gun really

I seldom use guns as vet, no point.

[south garnet]

[copper pine]

Kantrael is still good yes, but the health buffs made the special rounds less effective

[ocean idol]

just play zealot at this point

[carmine cradle]

mine is still plasma gun + psword + revive shout

[ocean idol]

I say the same to zealots who use gun too much, just play vet

[carmine cradle]

shredder frags and some grenade skills

[sleek cairn]

but i actually prefer the flow of vet melee way way more

[ocean idol]

it is not ab out special rounds, it is about its accuracy and damage

[jade sparrow]

what are the baselines for the new vet tree

[south garnet]

I ran all grenade talents along with plas+ps lastnight for funsies and it was ridiculous lmao

[carmine cradle]

weakpoint damage good

[ocean idol]

You mean switching weapons with weapon specialist/

[south garnet]

hi shock dam a cool refreshing breeze

[sleek cairn]

oh shit u caught me red handed, yeah the occasional time i want to shoot a sniper

[copper pine]

Kant is the least accurate but most damage out of the shotguns

[ocean idol]

Well generally zealot will always have better melee

[sleek cairn]

wep specialist is tooooo nice

[ocean idol]

faster and stronger

[inland orchid]

lol making holes outta heretics and if they don’t got a hole they’re a red mist

[feral stratus]

Veteran can use Shovels
Zealot cannot

Veteran is supperior

[ocean idol]

shovels are cringe

not real weapon

[south garnet]

It's nice knowing that vet has true 'safety' builds now but those do feel BORING. I want to live life on the EDGE and never know when I'm about to go from INVINCIBLE to DEAD in less than a heartbeat

[terse idol]

I hope one day we can get a Dueling sword for vet

[south garnet]

I want weapons that HATE me and make me feel MISERABLE when I use them

[terse idol]

Just play a low TR pgun

[inland orchid]

How I be feeling swapping off counter city devils claw to a regular melee

[terse idol]

😌

[feral stratus]

That tells me you've never hit someone with a shovel

[nimble sentinel]

Zealot prays to their wimpy god and talks with funny words

Vet can diggy diggy hole

[sudden dome]

Why are all the rifles so inaccurate from hipfire? I just want to be able to headshot with the accuracy the revovler does at 20 meters from 10 meters is that so hard? Instead every other shot goes wide

[ocean idol]

Shit, ok, you convinced me

[inland orchid]

Cuz when u move ur accuracy is also hindered

[sudden dome]

I hate ironsights they suck and take up too much room

[ocean idol]

I gotta try shovels tomorrow

[south garnet]

laspistol

[sudden dome]

it keeps coming back to revolver or laspistol

[ocean idol]

actually i did buy shovel from Milky today or yesterday

it had thrust 4

what blessings i want on shovels anyway?

[terse idol]

Regular shovel

[feral stratus]

Decimator and uncanny

[terse idol]

Decimator

[feral stratus]

That's what i run

[ocean idol]

because rifles ARE inaccurate from hipfire, lol?

[sudden dome]

laspistol doesnt have surgical though so its weak unless i center my whole build around crit

[frozen meadow]

can fire on kantreal synergy with scattershot crit?

[tall torrent]

Uncanny strike + skullcrusher also good

[terse idol]

Eh maybe not limb splitter

[next spade]

wait, +25% ammo also is +25% ammo pickup?

[terse idol]

For a regular

[south garnet]

thrust might be a good or even a great pick (GET IT? 'PICK'? LMAO!) for use with the nushovel specials

[ocean idol]

shovels are anti-horde?

[finite imp]

Can I get a mod that turns my shovel into a plastic sand castle builder

[finite imp]

Can you dig it?

The heavys rip through chaff

[south garnet]

Thrust plus take a swing? Maybe? I dunno! +60% power, and +60% weakspot just from weapon blessings?

[finite imp]

WOW

[south garnet]

Might be cool!

[finite imp]

It finally sent

Wrf

[inland orchid]

Beautiful mini

[terse idol]

I would gooo, decimator uncanny

[inland orchid]

It don’t look like a mini

[finite imp]

Amazing compliment

Ty

[terse idol]

[inland orchid]

Np that painting shit is hell and a half

[terse idol]

God damn

[south garnet]

mini? more like bigg-ie! LMAO!

[sudden dome]

Can we get a non ironsights secondary that shoots as accurate as ironsights? Is having a mod for that one of the bannable ones

[inland orchid]

Any good work should always be noticed and appreciated

[terse idol]

No

You can run weapon cosmetic mods

That give revolvers and helbores reflex sights and scopes

[sudden dome]

Ill take a look for those because ironsight weapons suck so bad its the reason I like graia braced over cig

[terse idol]

Its alright when you get used to it

[sudden dome]

because I dont have half the screen covered in metal and hands

[terse idol]

And for me personally it took me so many years of playing games to understand how irons work

[finite imp]

Thanks I've been painting minis a little over a year

[terse idol]

Yoo let's gooo

[tall torrent]

I hope they add weapon sight customization into the base game soon

Wouldn’t mind spending dockets, plasteel and diamantine to customize sights on weapons

[terse idol]

Yeah

That'd be sweep

Although I worry because they could monetize it

[tall torrent]

That’s not rly smth worth monetizing

[terse idol]

Yeah maybe you're right

[finite imp]

I've been thinking about painting minis professionally and calling my store bolt action brushes

[tall torrent]

Besides their monetization is not that good rn

If they really wanted to maximize ur spending they’d have more available cosmetics for buying at a time

[terse idol]

If you want to get up to another level you could hit up fivvr

Paint minis on comission

[finite imp]

I have already done that

[terse idol]

Then move up

Oh yooo

[south garnet]

Nop - exactly the opposite, apparently, which is why they're doing it this way

[terse idol]

[south garnet]

Psychological trickery

[finite imp]

I sold a 500 dollar blue dragon

[terse idol]

ya gotta show eet

[carmine cradle]

new shovels are pretty neat

[tall torrent]

If I log on and want to buy cosmetics but the ones I want aren’t in rotation, I’m not gonna spend on the current ones in rotation that I don’t like

[inland orchid]

Hell ya

[terse idol]

[finite imp]

Lmao

[terse idol]

Damn that's cool!

[finite imp]

His wings are blue green black irisescent

[inland orchid]

Reminds me of a monster hunter design, the cool blue hue with the giant horn

Awesome painting

[finite imp]

Storm dragon 🐉

Rer

[south garnet]

And that's great, for you, individually. But on a grander scale, collectively, people are more likely to spend money with limited windows of opportunity to make purchases. This is the FOMO driven design at play

[finite imp]

His scale work was so painful

[inland orchid]

lol I bet it was, shits hard for 2d painting

Let alone 3D

[tall torrent]

FOMO works but the way fatshark is doing rn is horribly unoptimized

[finite imp]

I spent probably close to an hour with my head sideways with my magnivizor on

My neck hurt

[south garnet]

Fatlard would love if they could extend a shop vac from the screen directly into wallets

[tall torrent]

FOMO in live service is not “rotating stuff out every 2 weeks and only having a super limited selection of stuff to buy”

[terse idol]

Yeahh

[south garnet]

Yea as far as whether the strategy is actually working for them, I have no idea. I think either way it's a shitty idea with garbage implementation

[tall torrent]

Only 3 sets of armor per class at a time is very limited

[terse idol]

I mean the real fomo being, they make a battle pass

With cosmetics at the last end of the track

That never come back

[south garnet]

[terse idol]

Dota 2 moment

[tall torrent]

That works but battle passes are much lower revenue compared to direct purchases

I’ve worked in mobile game MTX stuff before lol I know what the numbers can look like

[terse idol]

God damn

[south garnet]

Then why aren't you rich

Give me one of your 12 houses

[tall torrent]

If they really want to properly monetize cosmetics purchases they need more options available at a time for people to buy

[bitter turtle]

fomo a thing

[south garnet]

Prove it by taking me on a yacht trip

[tall torrent]

Donated to charity

[terse idol]

I imagine fortnite having things with a wide selection and putting things on a long waiting time until you have a chance to buy it

Isss making alot of monay

[bitter turtle]

isnt that just what rich ppl do to avoid taxes

[south garnet]

I SAID TAKE ME ON A YACHT TRIP

[tall torrent]

They can keep that rotation while having more options available

They could even reduce the rotation timer so more things come and go

[south garnet]

I would be a great trophy wife

[tall torrent]

Am not rich tho lol

[nimble sentinel]

can you cook?

[south garnet]

Absolutely not, in keeping with the premise

[terse idol]

Urgh 24 hour shops

The bane of my existance

That is how fortnite gets me

[nimble sentinel]

Skill issue

[finite imp]

If you're rich commission me

No brainer

Lolol

[tall torrent]

I’d much prefer 3-day or 1-week rotations
Smaller cosmetics like hats and what not can be rotated out more frequently
Armor sets and weapon skins can stay 1 week and then be rotated out so you get a bigger selection of items to buy in the same timeframe

[south garnet]

I use a technique I call weaponized incompetence that means I never have to do anything more than once. I mow the lawn upside down and backwards and I'm physically restrained from ever making a second attempt by wife

[tall torrent]

This game actually has good weapon cosmetics

Armor cosmetics mostly are boring I agree
Weapon cosmetics I think most look pretty cool

[south garnet]

You could sum up my technique as 'just dodge'

[finite imp]

My disaster setup

[tall torrent]

The new (?) shotgun skin u can get in the vet shop is pretty cool

There was a combat axe skin I got, called shrineguard nocturne? I think?

[terse idol]

How do you recommend a colour pallet to start off?
I swear I don't know what basic colours I need

[tall torrent]

Also looked really good

[finite imp]

Start light. Darken down

[terse idol]

Would just getting GW in like primary colours be good enough to start

Hmmm

[finite imp]

It's always easier to darken

Lightening paint is fucking next to impossible

But uh

There are basic kits

[terse idol]

I gotta work on my techniques and like, probably water down bettah

Oooh

I just have a random splattering of colours I found useful

[finite imp]

I don't water down 💀

[tall torrent]

The power sword skin that was in the shop was also really cool

[finite imp]

This is going to sound masochist

But I just paint with VERY LITTLE PAINT AT A TIME

I ride the blade

[terse idol]

I mwan if it works

I kept getting drilled by everyone to

WATER DOWN MY PAINTS

Also I brought a light blue but it's so watery and no amount of shaking can save it

It was brand new too

[finite imp]

You should BUT

Alot of paint comps are already watered down

Contrast paint for inst5

Instance

Depending on what I'm trying to paint I might want thicker or thinner laint

[tall torrent]

Need them to release a helbore remodel skin in the shop at some point
Such a missed opportunity to not drop one when the Krieg sets dropped

[raven crane]

Just use spray paint with high grit primer, clearly.

[finite imp]

I use spray on primer but the shit I buy is 22 a can

[raven crane]

If you need to get pain off just use sand paper

High grit

[finite imp]

Acetone

Behold 22 dollars of spray paint

🙄

[coarse tide]

The MK V cols build still good on this update?

[finite imp]

High grit is cool and all but it can rub your mini down

[elder vessel]

God I wish I was a nerd like this

[finite imp]

You are. Dork

[elder vessel]

It would just be

[finite imp]

Fucking loser

Lmao

[terse idol]

You're on a darktide discord wdym

[elder vessel]

Shelves and Shelves and Shelves of World Eaters

[terse idol]

You're a nerd nerd

🤓

Oh yo

I mean do it

What's stopping you

[elder vessel]

Money

[finite imp]

I have a star ambassador and a star chaser dragon being made by my sculptor as we speak

[elder vessel]

And time

[terse idol]

Fair

[elder vessel]

And other interests

[terse idol]

GW is a expensive

[finite imp]

I don't buy gw minis just the pots

And brushes

[terse idol]

But! If You want to follow your dream

[feral stratus]

I hate this penance, it takes too long to get progress

[terse idol]

Do iit

[elder vessel]

I mean

Thats literally just play the game style penance

[finite imp]

All my minis are 3d print custom jobs

At least the ones I sell

[terse idol]

I just buy wizkids

For my kobolds

[finite imp]

Wizkids is good

[terse idol]

But sometimes the print they come in is so fucking rouugh

[midnight mortar]

You just get it naturally as you play with the aura selected.

[finite imp]

Nolzurrs

[feral stratus]

Yeah, but i would have already finished it if it wasn't bugged for so long

[finite imp]

Nolzurrs uses good primer

[terse idol]

The last kobolds I got I had to cut alot of extra stuff and some eyes got lost

[midnight mortar]

Well yeah, but that's the bug's fault not the penance itself.

It's an easy penance.

[elder vessel]

Surv is Vets only worthwhile Aura so literally just play veteran

[south garnet]

Most craft-related hobbies require some form of dedicated space - which gets increasingly difficult with a stupid boring family around

[finite imp]

Ah yeah. Kill your family probably

Best tip

[elder vessel]

The downgraded baby version of Surv still has more impact than Fireteam or Close and Kill

[finite imp]

Use their blood for comissions

[tall torrent]

Play damnation hi-STG and u get progress really fast

[south garnet]

Sometimes I do get a passing fancy

stupid prime directives

[finite imp]

Totally normal feelings tbh

when you move out and can make your house into a wizard lair things change

[feral stratus]

I've been doing that and it's mostly psykers and Zealots who don't know what a gun is

[south garnet]

I have my own house, and made a family to then live in it lol

[tall torrent]

Oof

[raven crane]

||That's the joke||

[finite imp]

dammit i didn't wanna be that dude that looked down his nose at you bro

i didnt wanna shit on your advice

I was being wholesome and this is how im treated

[raven crane]

It was shitty advice

[finite imp]

lmao

I KNOW

[raven crane]

It would legit ruin people's stuff

[finite imp]

but i didn't wanna be that guy that was like yeah fuck that dude im the best painter ever

art is something to be nurtured you dig

[raven crane]

I appreciate your kindness then

Absolutely

[tender vine]

Can anyone recommend a great ranged weapon that fits in really well on the right hand melee/ranged swap keystone?

[finite imp]

oh since were on 40k

I have orkz

😉

[raven crane]

You are a good and kind fan and part of this community.

[elder vessel]

show

[raven crane]

I respect your kindness.

[feral stratus]

The new revolver feels pretty smooth in that playstyle

[feral stratus]

Also the heavy las pistols work too

[south garnet]

moving out of my house and ditching my tired wife and fat son to go pursue my love of having enough consistent available floorspace to play VR

:^)

[obtuse raft]

Either revolver is pretty much made exactly for that playstyle

[finite imp]

sorry for spam

these orks were very early in my painting career

so they're rough

[devout atlas]

revolvers, agri/lawbringer shotguns, plasma

[elder vessel]

you are forgiven
For there is nothing to forgive

[finite imp]

idk why my photos come out blury

weird

[devout atlas]

@tender vine sorry forgot to tag you

I prefer OG revy, quick switch, blast a poxwalker, go back to melee

run with scavenger and never worry about ammo

[finite imp]

if you hear someone elses character complain about ammo you're doing good

[frozen meadow]

yo the lawbringer shotgun pops with scattershot

[south garnet]

this guy isn't (read: is not) a cowboy nor cowpoke nor lawman nor gunslinger nor texas ranger

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-90s-kid-cool-good-gif-3575245

[devout atlas]

scattershot+flechette and you have yourself one of the best horde-clearers in the game that can still HVT snipe.

[finite imp]

me picking up a stash to fill 5 bullets

[devout atlas]

mk3 shovel + lawbringer with VoC is my most reliable auric damn build

[finite imp]

alright fine

ill build a lawbringer

sheesh

[flat pebble]

it’s fun

i like mine on my zealot. no respite full bore

[finite imp]

step one get scattershot and flecheette

[flat pebble]

kinda does everything except boss damage

[devout atlas]

honestly busted, see a hallway of gunners? 3 special shots and they're all dead or bleeding out

who needs to aim to kill a room full of shooters when 1-2 specials is enough

normal shots 1-2 tap gunners

you can kill snipers and reapers fast with it

stupidly good

[south garnet]

flechette or manstopper? I've seen people rec left keystone for use with lawbringer + manstopper

[flat pebble]

you can just two tap gunners and honestly most specials at functionally every range if you use no respite

scattershot flechette is a fun build but it’s kinda memey

it’s way better at horde clear though

[devout atlas]

I run no keystone flechette. It helps killing snipers and on my auric damn games I usually get 1/4 of my kills from the bleed

[lost portal]

You tried out the Professional Detriment build yet?

[devout atlas]

you'll never get below 800 kills on auric damn with this setup

[south garnet]

no ha, I probably will this weekend though

[devout atlas]

obviously scavenger for ammo eco

deadshot and weakpoint, the ads doesn't lower spread of special much anymore

[bleak dirge]

is this decent?

[devout atlas]

no need for duck and dive

and uhh yeah have fun

[lost portal]

Phenomenal

[flat pebble]

yeah, swap block to maniac and wrath to savage sweep or shred

[devout atlas]

oh yeah grab the 10% crit on full mag talent

it's free crits

and no need for reload speed buff talents

[flat pebble]

or bloodletter if it nets any important ohks

[south garnet]

Did you guys know they put a new mission modifier in?

[frozen meadow]

I have no respite on currently and it seems pretty good but don't have fletchette yet

[south garnet]

It's using this:https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9acba373-8bf4-4471-b5a0-332e0992e9d5/professional-detriment

[lost portal]

Is it moronic teammates?

[frozen meadow]

does bleed get affected by crits?

[lost portal]

Oh

[south garnet]

also that

[flat pebble]

bleed is just bleed

[frozen meadow]

oh wait nvm, it does bleed ON crits

I misread

[lost portal]

Best build in the game right here. It’ll be meta in about 3 hours

[devout atlas]

wrath to shred or bloodletter, block eff to your choice although maniac isn't rlly that useful since you one saw mutants.

[finite imp]

what perks for your shotty

maniac/flak im assuming

[devout atlas]

no respite is great on agri shotty as it let's you two tap gunners any range with normal shots fun fact

[frozen meadow]

nice

I will try to get fletchette somewhere

[devout atlas]

only flak matters because of bruisers, I don't even remember my 2nd perk ngl

[finite imp]

kk

[devout atlas]

might be worth even going unarmored for unarmored gunners/snipers lmao you can delete flamers and trappers with lawbringer easily enough without maniac

I'll post my build a little later I'm still waking up in bed

[compact briar]

what's shovel blessings

[devout atlas]

which one

[compact briar]

idk im just lookin at the melk shop and i saw thrust 4

[obtuse raft]

Does scavenger round up? Like if you managed to get the new revolver over 100 reserve somehow would you get two back per proc?

[wanton dawn]

Not since p13

[devout atlas]

someone told me it actually keeps track of decimals but it's a minimum of 1 round

[sharp ember]

this is correct

you can see it on plasma gun's reserve ammo, usually it's +1, sometimes it's +2

[devout atlas]

I run extra ammo on lawbringer because it helps with ammo pick ups moreso then anything, even then you rarely go under 60% and dog packs on auric give you a massive chunk of ammo as you can delete them in 2-3 specials lol

[obtuse raft]

Neat, TY folks

[unborn dove]

Is veterans graia braced auto gun better then Agripinaa braced auto gun?

[compact briar]

Kantrael inf lasgun Efficiency 4, Columnus Brauto Hit & Run 4, Agri Hhauto Ghost 4, Muni Sapper Shovel Thrust 4
Are any of these worth scooping for the bingo book?

[sharp ember]

agri is easier to use, but graia lends itself to Onslaught rending builds

[devout atlas]

It did get buffed recently but I'd still stick with agri brauto for its higher cleave lending to better and more efficient horde-clear as well as generally better accuracy and damage fall off lending to being better at killing gunners and shooters

[left zodiac]

voice of command revive will reduce range and increase cooldown for every use of that skill or only if it revives someone?

[devout atlas]

every use

[sharp ember]

i do think graia brauto is in a solid spot among brautos now

[devout atlas]

sadly

[left zodiac]

so range down to 6m and cooldown to 45s

nnot nice

[sharp ember]

important: teammates only need to be inside Coherency range to get toughness boost, not inside the stagger circle

[devout atlas]

oh yeah for sure, agri brauto is surprisingly slept on though, with good trigger control its very efficient horde-clear with good HVT killing

[scenic bronze]

There's this weird bug where if you hold a stim crouched in a corner and spam right click a sense of clarity sets in

[sharp ember]

+50% aura node is very good with VoC because of that

[timber sand]

What a find.

[dusk idol]

rip

[brazen bay]

Ive been thinking about swapping one of my points for the aura increase but im not sure which

[serene sage]

Still not worth imo

[brazen bay]

because correct me if I am wrong but increase the range in which my shout can buff allies or does it just increase coherency range?

[serene sage]

There are so many good nodes on Vet

[left zodiac]

what is difference between MK 1, 2, and 3 of Helbore?

[sharp ember]

shout buff is tied to your coherency range, so it works

[serene sage]

That Charismatic is just meh

[sick marsh]

I mean... it's alright.

[dusk idol]

what’s the other option for aura again?

[brazen bay]

The only thing that comes to mind is the bayonet slash pattern

[dusk idol]

for charismatic I mean, what’s the opposing choice

[brazen bay]

but there maybe more?

[sharp ember]

mk2 fastest
mk1 medium
mk3 slowest, slashing bayonet

[serene sage]

Fking Confirmed Kills lmao

[dusk idol]

lmao

[serene sage]

Aren't no way you're taking Charismatic over CK

[dusk idol]

if you’re going down the tree you could pick up both

[left zodiac]

thx a lot
is there some sirte that just tells main differences between weapons?

[dusk idol]

or you could save a point and invest it in a keystone node as well

tough to say if charismatic is worth it weighed against that

[sharp ember]

we have the ranged weapon primer in pins

gives a basic description of every gun

oh my god i have to add the new guns

[terse idol]

There is the button to inspect weapon and that'll help you learn differrences in melee combos

All guns will tell you abit too

[dusk idol]

though the best way to get a feel for weapons is to use them in a match

[hollow ibex]

best place to test out a new gray weapon is in auric damnation 👍

[honest marsh]

I am enjoying being able to include suppression immunity now

On stealth builds

[visual plaza]

Hihi vets. I'm a psyker main but I wanna make a vet build that's based around helping the group in clairvoyance (please correct me if I'm wrong I'm mega new to warhammer/darktide stuff im trying for my bf 🤣) And I was wondering if there's anything specific in the skill tree that could help with that? I'm really used ti being in the backline and using my electricity while everyone else kills the stunned enemies so any tips for vet is needed for me. Also any weapon tips? I don't really understand most of it

Like I see all the screenshots you people send

And like "it's not too bad" but it looks really good to me I'm not too sure what's good OR bad

[idle carbon]

you sound like a voice of command / tag kind of player

[honest marsh]

I basically use Vet for stealth, revolver and a MK3 knife. Use it to target groups of shooters and get downed folks, Objectives too.

[visual plaza]

I wanna be good at the game for my friends and bf so if there's any tips I'd love to know

[sharp ember]

Vet does like being a backline player, but we lack constant stunning abilities like Smite, so we opt to directly shoot and kill things

[honest marsh]

Krak Grenades make short work of heavy armor, super useful.

[visual plaza]

I'm not too good at shooting but I'll try 😭

My friends and bf usually kill all the irregular things

[honest marsh]

Well it's a shooting primary job so >_> Practice.

[visual plaza]

Like Ragers and gunners and stuff

[honest marsh]

Or get a shotgun

[visual plaza]

You right

I've seen my bf use his vet and do nutty things

[lost portal]

Try the Magnacore. As long as you’re roughly on target you’ll obliterate whatever your target is.

[astral ingot]

use a plasma gun

[visual plaza]

We usually run Vet Ogryn Vet and psyker

[visual plaza]

Y e s

[sharp ember]

you might like a plasma gun, because it's 100% accurate and shoots a wide beam of plasma that is hard to miss

ah vulkan said it

[visual plaza]

[astral ingot]

it's like voidstrike's methhead cousin

[honest marsh]

I generally see Vets role as taking out groups of ranged enemies that can saturate your team. It's your job to target snipers and gunners ASAP. This is just my opinion, but when I do this, my team has a lot easier time. Focus on bringing down anything that your other rejects stun, use a group of smited enemies as a killing field.

[lost portal]

It also has a cleave of ”Literally through thin walls” so if you ping a target behind anything that isn’t wearing carapace you can still fuck em up.

[visual plaza]

I'm trying to learn more about warhammer cause all of them are lore nits and love the game too. Snipers are a painnnn fr

[obtuse raft]

You can do a lot of "support" with the grenade talents in my experience. Lobbing frags and kraks at difficult problems always helps make them less difficult.

[idle carbon]

thin walls pffft, fully charged shots can easily go through 2m of rockcrete in this game lol

[sharp ember]

Braced Autoguns are a decent choice too, because you can't aim with them, you just shoot a LOT of bullets and hope they hit

[honest marsh]

Vet can stand well damage wise alone, BUT you're also a good follow up.

[idle carbon]

and still obliterate whatever's hiding behind said 2m of rockrete

[honest marsh]

Read the Gaunts Ghosts books and the Cain books

[pulsar drift]

yea

a grenedier build can help a lot

[lost portal]

Vet is probably the second best in terms of sheer ranged damage output. Although Ogryn is inefficient as all hell.

[pulsar drift]

frags have wonderful ccs

[visual plaza]

He has a few books lying around I'll see what I can find

[honest marsh]

Vets nades are top tier imo

[idle carbon]

the Cain books are a decent place to start

[honest marsh]

Oak, check out thw audiobooks

the*

[pulsar drift]

See how much I staggered

[honest marsh]

They're quite good

ACTUALLY!

[visual plaza]

There's audiobooks?? :O

I love audiobooks

There's scoreboard history?

[pulsar drift]

frags are so good against rager horde

[visual plaza]

Where do I find all that?

[lost portal]

Hot take, vets nades aren’t even that good. It’s the fact that you literally print the things and can pass them out like candy on Halloween.

[honest marsh]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13xYMZlV6i30i1pgvnAMKIZr_MI91_grM?usp=drive_link Here is a link to legit audiobooks in an old google drive of mine. A lot of them are current.

[visual plaza]

Dude I hate rager hoards it hurts 😭

[astral ingot]

The battlefleet gothic series read by ABorderPrince is free on youtube

[visual plaza]

Yoink

[honest marsh]

Everyone is welcome to grab them. They're from humble bundle.

Has a lot of the recent timeline books

[bleak bolt]

sus link from a stranger.. def not a honeypot

jkjk

[serene sage]

yeah, which is why they are good

[bleak bolt]

that's cool man!

[pulsar drift]

Yea that’s why I swapped to frag build

[serene sage]

quantity has a quality of its own

[pulsar drift]

Cuz then I can bomb the shit of these

[serene sage]

then again frag nade is solid

[honest marsh]

Whenever I move from Krak I regret it

but frags are more versitile

[visual plaza]

Amd gun stuff- how do you know if its good cause like I've seen a few here thay look really good to me but to everyone else it's okay. What makes a weapon good? Stat spread? Blessings? Stuff like that?

Like I have an autopistol that has gotten me through lots but I'm not too sure if it's any good or not

[honest marsh]

Well get vet to 30 first, cause you won't need anything super focused til then

[visual plaza]

She's lvl 11 I think

[lost portal]

Compare frags to immolation, Funny box, or the pocket nuke. They’re still aight but they don’t have that X factor.

[honest marsh]

Revolver, Plasma gun and Recon Las are quite good

[obtuse raft]

It's a combo of both generally. Some stuff is a lot more sensitive to good rolls/perks/blessings than others

[visual plaza]

I forget expendables lvl cause I usually use my psyker

[bleak bolt]

and save every mat until you hit max lvl

[cerulean void]

most guns can drop ammo as a dump stat, you want pretty much anything else as high as it can go lol

[visual plaza]

Gotchaa

[idle carbon]

mobility tbh

[visual plaza]

I think my bf uses uh

Like

[honest marsh]

Nice thing with the stealth keystones is

[visual plaza]

The hunting rifle looking one?

[honest marsh]

If you use a revolver, it'll reload as you swap weapons

[cerulean void]

or mobility, yeah

[idle carbon]

ammo is important, esp on vet since you get more back from survivalist with higher base ammo

[visual plaza]

Autorifle or somethings

[serene sage]

I can do this though?

[lost portal]

Helbore

[idle carbon]

ammo can be a dump stat on infantry and helbore laguns tho

[serene sage]

2x Tinkered Frag can kill any stacks of gunners in a WIDE radius

[visual plaza]

Lemme see actually

[obtuse raft]

Vraks probably, the semi auto one

[bleak bolt]

yup and i think it's gun specific too - soem weapons are ammo hungry

i wouldn't say ammo is a dump stat so much as mobility can be

[honest marsh]

Boltgun go brrrrr

[cerulean void]

cries in recon las

[honest marsh]

Recon laz makes me feel weak, no punch

[devout atlas]

you're comparing the wrong blitz. shredders are mini zealot stun grenades that can also kill mauler and rager packs and regenerate every minute.

[idle carbon]

uhh

[devout atlas]

they're not for clearing the screen or horde-clear they're for on demand mass stagger and occasionally deleting elite groups

[bleak bolt]

what makes a weapon good:

• base total stat at least 365 or higher (can be lower IF stat spread is actually decent, but overall higher = better)
• base stat spread is high on stats that matter
• Hadron is nice to you for perks and blessings
• Perks/Blessings dependent on weapon but the golden duo is Flak-Maniac for perks

[lost portal]

This is a very weird argument. Do you mind ending it on, ”Theyre insane mostly because you have more or less an infinite amount of them”

[idle carbon]

you may have exaggerated a bit lol

[visual plaza]

Sorry fir the late reply I just booted his console. He uses this thing

[bleak bolt]

[devout atlas]

i did say mini

[lost portal]

Mf that’s not a hunting rifle.

[visual plaza]

I KNOW NOW 😭

[serene sage]

I mean I already said it

[visual plaza]

I thought it was cause whenever I look he's aiming 😭

[serene sage]

1x frag for stagger
2x for damge

[lost portal]

I got lost in the sauce.

[serene sage]

and you have infinite of them, theoretically

[devout atlas]

crazy this has to be said

[idle carbon]

one weird agrip

[devout atlas]

this

[visual plaza]

He also uses a "devils claw" thing

[idle carbon]

ah the claw4, everyone's favorite sword

[serene bough]

run all grenade perks

[sharp ember]

the devil claw is a fine anti-horde sword

[serene bough]

become the easter bunny of explosives

[serene sage]

I guess if you are trying to say oh one frag doesn't do much then yeah I agree

[bleak bolt]

also - frag nades are great for crowd control via stagger - so rager and even bulwark/crusher hordes

[visual plaza]

This thing

[devout atlas]

demo team and free nade a minute is usually easily reachable on most builds and let's you chuck them out like candy

[serene sage]

but if you throw 2 suddenly bleed stacks hit breakpoints

[sleek cairn]

so much smoke, uh yes i just threw a record amount of smoke grenades. twinned smokes.

if my teammates arent high af yet, they are now.

cough

[visual plaza]

I've seen that whenever I use my vet. It just takes a bit for it to explode 😭

[bleak bolt]

it doesn't do dmg much maybe - but when your whole crew is pumping shots into the crowd, more often than not, i get the kills from bleed dmg

[serene bough]

twinned smokes is easily the most troll talent pick possible

[sleek cairn]

oh you rang?

that's me!

[serene bough]

you're a psycho

why would you do this

[sleek cairn]

because i bind tag to lmb

[visual plaza]

I'm used to "UNLIMITED POWWWAH" with electricity yk. Almost immediate stagger so grenades take a lil getting used to 🤣

[sleek cairn]

its necessary

[sharp ember]

thank you king for expanding your smoke area by 10% because they slightly deviated from eachother

[visual plaza]

I'm not really a high intense gamer person

[bleak bolt]

learn to time the underhand throw and back step - they'll be on top of it, most times

[visual plaza]

Buuut I trying cause my bf loves this game

[late anvil]

Snoop Dogg method actor

[idle carbon]

jesus christ, I had to download a mod specifically to combat... this

[visual plaza]

[devout atlas]

if you want oomf factor for a blitz you can use once every 5-10 minutes instead of 2-3 times a minute just play ogryn

[sleek cairn]

i mean try the 30s twin smokes. you'll start cackling from how much fun it is

[tender vine]

For the revolvers, what blessings/perks shold i aim for? crit maniac and surgical/?rolette? @devout atlas

[sleek cairn]

just watching the trail in midair is fun enough

[idle carbon]

oof, darktide is certainly a high intensity game
though, get to the end of a boss assassination mission and enjoy the beat, maybe your views will change heh

[devout atlas]

I don't like the new revolver so no comment

[serene sage]

I'm doing it tonight

[bleak bolt]

lets be honest, we're really just here for the soundtrack

[tulip zenith]

what are u guys' fav vet build rn

for me its either support las gun or plasma squad leader

[sleek cairn]

lol if u are already a melee vet, agile engagement is the bonus

[idle carbon]

easily shovel commando, kraks/survivalist and full right

[visual plaza]

Right?? I've played till my psyker is maxed, ogryn is like 9 and vet is 11. Tried zealot but it's a bit much for me 🤣 I'm used to playing things like animal crossing or apex or overwatch. Not as intense as darktide but I'm learning so I can be at their speed ykwim?

[bleak bolt]

plasma gun with VoC and the ping target keystone and shredder nades (both regen talents)

[visual plaza]

Like they've been playing high intense games since they were 6 and I was playing Wii sports

[bleak bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/fellowship-of-the-ring-fellowship-got-your-back-elijah-wood-viggo-mortensen-gif-2645844577655468458

antax still slappin

[idle carbon]

DT didn't get nominated for their soundtrack for no reason, jesper kyd just can't help but shit excellence with his music

[devout atlas]

ogryn or psyker might be more your thing then. ogryn is taller than the hordes of enemies so you can keep track of things easier, they have a lot of durability and slow attacks which let's you take things slower than let's say a zealot or vet. psykers have a lot of playstyles that let you take the backseat using space magic to control and kill enemies

[sleek cairn]

virtua tennis

[bleak bolt]

Facts my dude

[serene sage]

Some variation of this. I move 2-3 points around depending on my mood

[visual plaza]

Oh yeah I'm a psyker main at heart. I wanted to branch out a bit tho since my bf loves vet and he does stat things for everyone

So I wanted to try a lill

But at the end I love my electricity

[devout atlas]

mk3 shovel + agri iag exec stance build or new chaxe + old revy VoC weapon specialist

[obtuse raft]

VoC and weapon specialist feels like playing kruber again and I adore it for that reason.

[devout atlas]

you might like Ogryn a lot tbh, you'd be surprised how many Ogryn mains have Psyker alts here lol, they weirdly share a lot of DNA

[visual plaza]

[bleak bolt]

both require purgation

[obtuse raft]

Ogryn is a whole ton of fun. It takes a little adjusting to having a gigantic hitbox and sticking out past cover

[bleak bolt]

well at least, the zealot told me so

[devout atlas]

If Psyker uses their powers for CC, an Ogryn uses their body, both are weirdly support oriented but can shit out CC and damage in a familiar way

[solar sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqHda4Vwmvc My latest veteran guide for the new patch. Includes executioners stance, voice of command, and infiltrate builds using a few of the new weapons. I've been loving the shovel and the Zarona is stronger than ever.

[finite imp]

good fucking lord

[obtuse raft]

But being beefy like that can make it a bit more forgiving

[finite imp]

I just ran into the absolute worst recon vet i will ever meet holy shit

[devout atlas]

At the end of the day, chaining Smites and slamming your slab shield with pushes and taunts achieves a similar result

[finite imp]

bar none

[sleek cairn]

he will improve, u must support ur fellow players

give him praise

bolster his confidence

[serene sage]

Nah I'm good

[sleek cairn]

toxic af guys

[finite imp]

he didnt say anything the entire match and stole ammo from the nadegryn

[serene sage]

https://tenor.com/view/there-are-no-two-words-in-the-english-language-more-harmful-than-good-job-whiplash-fletcher-gif-23097956

[devout atlas]

Creeping Flames is just a DOT version of Ogrynheimer

[finite imp]

based and whiplash pilled

[devout atlas]

Voidstrike is a Kickback with less spread

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/terence-fletcher-whiplash-answer-answer-me-shouting-angry-gif-23530973

me picking you up for the 7th time

[serene sage]

ARE YOU RUSHING OR ARE YOU DRAGGING

[finite imp]

HOLD IT

[bleak bolt]

bad players exist, some turn into better players with time - just learn to carry in the meantime lol

[serene sage]

ON MY FUCKING TEMPO

[finite imp]

NOT QUITE MY TEMPO

https://tenor.com/view/whiplash-milesteller-jksimmons-gif-5318252

[devout atlas]

that movie taught me that bald people are evil

[finite imp]

dude i still think about that movie

all the time

it asks such a hard question

[serene sage]

True for all the Primarchs in 40k too

[devout atlas]

Gunker with Columnus is just a faster Gunlugger with Achylys

[bleak bolt]

Horus approves this message.

[devout atlas]

they're the same class if you squint hard enough

like really really hard

actually just close your eyes and imagine

[finite imp]

btw

[bleak bolt]

is the plasma gun animation bug sitll present?

[finite imp]

I kept meaning to do this

[devout atlas]

the sprint reload cancel is still in the game yeah

[finite imp]

6107835686 for anyone who doesn't wanna type it

[serene sage]

I'm typing it
Fuck you

[finite imp]

i hang out enough on here i should start playing with some of yall

drop the pubbies

[idle pecan]

what would i need on this, i dont think punishing salvo is good

maybe hh?

[devout atlas]

wrong patch sorry bro

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/whiplash-not-my-tempo-jk-simmons-gif-9593874262333532084

[idle pecan]

i wanna do the unlimited ammo laser show build

is it effective? lol no, but its funny

[serene sage]

You would need a time machine to make it good 💯

[devout atlas]

you're a couple weeks too late

[idle pecan]

F

[finite imp]

upupupup whose off key

[bleak bolt]

yup just put that thing on the shelf for now

[finite imp]

the recon was already borderline bad and they fucked it AGAIN

it's such a cool weapon

but it's just a wet bag

[devout atlas]

that youtube video you've watched was before they nerfed the shit out of it idk why since Stormtrooper only made it a B+ weapon at most

[bleak bolt]

recons were bad, then kinda melty with the right setup, then bad again

it's a pipe dream atm

[brazen bay]

lol just had a funny auric level mission

[finite imp]

i remember when i first picked up recon during the beta

i said to myself yep

[bleak bolt]

how was it in beta?

[finite imp]

this won't last

it was fun

[devout atlas]

it was still bad back then ngl

[brazen bay]

I hoped in and right as I was joining some dude was going on tangent about how bad his team was and he left before I loaded in

[devout atlas]

Well idk I barely used it then

[finite imp]

it was FUN

but not good

[brazen bay]

then we proceed to kick ass as a 3 man with a bot

[finite imp]

it's probably my least used weapon

[idle pecan]

did they nerf it?

[devout atlas]

I mostly played Zealot and Ogryn on release

[finite imp]

short answer yes

[devout atlas]

to the point of uselessness sadly

[finite imp]

long anwer YEEEEEEEEEEEs

[idle pecan]

W H Y

[bleak bolt]

maybe one day we can take any weapon into auric and not feel like a weaklink

[idle pecan]

it wasnt even good

[finite imp]

WE DONT KNOW

[devout atlas]

idfk

[finite imp]

WE KNOW

[idle pecan]

back to the plasma gun ig

or hellbore

[finite imp]

i stg those devs just don't play vet

[brazen bay]

anytime a weapon that is not in the advertising material gets used more they nerf it to make the signature shit look cooler

[devout atlas]

agri iag with exec stance goes hard

[bleak bolt]

i just cycle between plasma and mg12 inf las - then shotties for funsies on heresy diff

i haven't tried the solid slug weapons tho

[finite imp]

Yall remember when the revolver got that one buff lmao

[cyan breach]

Is there a meta setup for the new revolver? Thinking of rolling one

[idle pecan]

why is there an ! there

[devout atlas]

nah not rlly recon is the only bad ranged wep for Vet rn

[finite imp]

i just posted mine earlier hang on

[devout atlas]

they just really hate Recons

[bleak bolt]

new item, but it's bugged - try switching to another weapon then back again

[finite imp]

im the cowboy vet of this discord. There's a few others but I main cowboy

[bleak bolt]

if you dont have one, buy one and do the same

[devout atlas]

their playtesters must think Recons are OP as fuck

or smth

[brazen bay]

I thinks its because on release recons slapped really hard and they have only nerfed instead of actually balancing them

[finite imp]

Here you go lad. Ignore the haters this build was forged and wrought

im sure it's going to be outdated by tomorrow am

[brazen bay]

on launch they were pretty much a infantry las gun with more ammo, high ROF and les recoil. It was melting bosses

[elder vessel]

I run a mutated version of this build

[finite imp]

Cheers

[finite imp]

id love to hear what you tweaked

[brazen bay]

when they first came out a single vet with a reconlas could damn near solo a T5 raid

[bleak bolt]

tbh - in lore, is there a diff in stopping power between infantry level las weapons

i figure they basically do the same damage based on energy output

[finite imp]

ehh lore is a weak thing to fall back on in this game

[bleak bolt]

bigger mag size = less dmg, and vice versa

[finite imp]

The fucking bolter does less damage than a devolver per shot

revolver

hence the bolter revo relationship

[brazen bay]

ah the classic lasgun ignma, a flesh melting death machine in lore, a flashlight in the RTS, only good in numbers in table top, and somewhere in between in darktide

[elder vessel]

One sec

[finite imp]

in a perfect world all weapons would be able to have solid builds

[cyan breach]

Well, can this be something, or is it scrap?

[compact briar]

i mean its not garbage

get surgical

[serene sage]

Usable, replace both blessings ino

[finite imp]

that's good wtf

[sharp ember]

Veteran's Ranged Weapons Primer

A brief list of the basic characteristics of every Veteran ranged weapon
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wbwhpBhfLDIHB2sUjCHQAT1QjhrHhNWgazxoazPNDlY/edit?usp=sharing

[finite imp]

dont get surgical

well you can

[brazen bay]

it can be kinda saved, I would swap blessing for handcannon and surgical if you have them

[finite imp]

but you don't spend alot of time ADS'ing with the fanner

[sharp ember]

<@&735928989146939404> my lords, can we pin this and remove the previous outdated primer?

[idle pecan]

so is this good?