veteran-class

[devout atlas]

cause i see infested actually doing some work here

[tall torrent]

Isn’t the new chainaxe just light spam

For horde

[terse idol]

You dont gotta check your shop

[tall torrent]

Light and push attack

[flat pebble]

honestly i was kinda thinking the same thing but idk

[terse idol]

Just if your Plasma gun will one shot specific enemies

[flat pebble]

yes

[terse idol]

In the psykanarium

[unreal bone]

Yes I do have to check the shop

Cause I need to see if my shop has any good rolls

on my other classes

[devout atlas]

infested seems to be one tapping pox walker with headshot, 70% damage on bodyshot at max slaughterer stacks

[terse idol]

That's faiir

[devout atlas]

I might replace bloodletter with headtaker?

[flat pebble]

i was trying it yesterday with headtaker and slaughterer and it felt like it was struggling with hordes imo

if you’re okay with infested yeah

[brisk sapphire]

Supposedly thrust and +cara dmg allows you to one shot crushers with revved heavy, but I haven't a roll good enough to replicate it yet

[flat pebble]

i don’t think you’re really getting a ton of mileage from bloodletter on new chaxe

[unreal bone]

Should I check my plasma gun breakpoints with or without talent points spent in my skill tree?

[devout atlas]

hm

[flat pebble]

it’s killing most everything on a revved heavy

[devout atlas]

unarmored hordes dont need unarmored% on slaughterer

infested is defo putting in work

maybe infested + cara + thrust + slaughterer?

[flat pebble]

sounds legit

[tall torrent]

Isn’t bloodletter pretty good on chainaxe

[flat pebble]

not much is dying to the bleed after a special attack

[stark saddle]

Is rampage or Slaughterer better on power swords?

[flat pebble]

because it’s already dead

[flat pebble]

power cycler brutal momentum

[devout atlas]

best I can do is thrust 3 ugh

[tall torrent]

No cuz u can just rev, hit them once, dodge cancel

[flat pebble]

ig

[tall torrent]

And u just get free dmg without the risk of staying in the sawing process

[terse idol]

I mean either, Personally I would do it with my talents because that's what I'm gonna play with

[tall torrent]

Free 16 stacks of bleed

[terse idol]

If you want the real indicator you could do with no talents

[devout atlas]

alright gonna try this out

[terse idol]

But that does make it tougher

But if you can meet break points with no talents then imo, it would also be that it'd open up to be more flexible on your talent choices

[devout atlas]

leaves them with about 10% health

ugh

let me see if im missing a talent

annoying

[junior rover]

Vet melee finesse talent? Forgot the name of it

[flat pebble]

i wonder if you need elite and carapace like with some other weapons

it might just be you need thrust 4 idk

[tall torrent]

Bloodletter would have killed it

[devout atlas]

i alr got it

[flat pebble]

without thrust it wouldn’t have gotten there

[devout atlas]

wait let me get some stacks of slaughterer

[flat pebble]

and without slaughterer or headtaker your horde clear will be doodoo

[devout atlas]

eyy with 3 stacks it does this

so we should be gucci

[flat pebble]

that’s for sure a ohk with thrust 4

[devout atlas]

mhm

not bad

and on weapon specialist the attack speed is servicable

i'll give it a shot on damnation with some of these noobs i've paired with :P

[unreal bone]

Are Dreg gunners tankier than scab gunners?

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-roblox-huh-cat-huh-cat-saying-huh-gif-27625167

[flat pebble]

a lot of weapons do less damage to unarmored than flak

[unreal bone]

They both read as Flak Armored enemies in the meat grinder though.

[flat pebble]

dreg gunner head is unarmored

[unreal bone]

Scab left dreg right

[flat pebble]

ah you’re going for body shot ohk

[broken spade]

yeah dreg gunners have more hp

[thorn yoke]

Dreg gunners have flak shoulderpads. Arms legs and head are unarmoured

[flat pebble]

yeah what is it 1200 compared to 1400?

[unreal bone]

You're telling me some dude in yellow toliet paper has more health than a heretic guardsmen??

[flat pebble]

seems elites for flak

[unreal bone]

Put elites on my gun you say?

[flat pebble]

no you have elites already lol

[unreal bone]

No I don't

I put flak on it

[flat pebble]

: /

[civic knot]

worth buying?

[flat pebble]

you know what i meant

[unreal bone]

Do you want me to put elites on it again?

I wasn't 1 shotting Scab Gunners with that 8% elite on

[flat pebble]

no i didn’t know you had flak on it yet lol you didn’t say

[unreal bone]

So that's why I put Flak on

[civic knot]

thats an amazeballs good roll my guy

[unreal bone]

Yeah I swapped to Flak after 8% elite wasn't 1 shotting scabs with left click

[flat pebble]

i’d keep it as is then

plasma gun always comes with breakpoint compromises

[unreal bone]

I'm 57 damage short of 1 shotting dreg flamer

[terse idol]

Hmm, I mean wait but you can headshot both to one shot right?

Thr gunners

[unreal bone]

1392 headshot on dreg gunner

-.-

[flat pebble]

doubt it

yeah the flak damage in the body shot was doing a lot

[terse idol]

Yeah the break point

[flat pebble]

can you headshot one shot the scab gunner no flak?

[unreal bone]

I'm about to try

what should I swap flak out for?

I was considering going to 10% Elite now

[terse idol]

Unarmoured

Imo

[flat pebble]

usually people do unarmored for the dreg gunner ohk

among other options

[unreal bone]

I'll try unarmored

[terse idol]

There is a chance the low Stopping power is making it so you're not meeting that breakpoint

wheeeze

And its not even that low

[livid fractal]

is darktide having server issues..

[unreal bone]

With unarmored I 1 shot head shot both gunners

[livid fractal]

i'm getting 2014 every time i enter a mission

it just wont let me play the game

[terse idol]

Ah there we go

[unreal bone]

Can't 1 shot Scab Ragers tho sadly

[terse idol]

That's the key

[whole moon]

Try renaming the Darktide folder in %appdata%/Fatshark

[unreal bone]

and obv can't 1 shot the big boys.

[whole moon]

Maybe some bad local data

[terse idol]

Could get maniac

[unreal bone]

I already have maniac

It came with t4 maniac

[terse idol]

Oooh

Jeeze

I mean thats pretty good still

[unreal bone]

I can 1 shot dreg ragers with middle keystone tho

[terse idol]

My Pguns have bad stopping power so I'm like 100 dmg off

[unreal bone]

so I guess It's still possible

if I mark em

[terse idol]

One shooting gunners

Yeah

That's a good idea

[strange crow]

That's fair, I assume the obv choice would be a single-crit-bodyshot kill over a 5% increased chance to crit right?

[unreal bone]

Damn bro can't even 1 shot a mutie with 4 star Maniac perk, middle keystone mark, and full charge plasma gun shot.

[terse idol]

That's normal

Mutie one-shot aint easy

[unreal bone]

Oh woops

[terse idol]

At least iirc

[unreal bone]

I was on the wrong pgun

I was on my gets hot blaze away one that has really meh perks

[terse idol]

[unreal bone]

lemme put the right one on

Ok yeah no this one with volatile can 1 tap dreg ragers no mark needed.

🤣

Now that I'm on the new pgun I'm making.

And 1 shots mutie so yay

[terse idol]

Pretty goooood

[tall torrent]

It’s better to not need crits to hit breakpoints altogether unless you have so high crit chance it’s basically crit all the time

[finite imp]

whats the revolver meta blessings aside from hand cannon, surgical?

[south garnet]

Dreg gunner more like smeg, ton'er!
LMAO!

[languid escarp]

anyone crashing frequently when visiting Melk?

[south garnet]

I started writing that anti-joke 40 pages ago

[serene sage]

I just lost a little respect for you.

[south garnet]

Thank god

I don't do well around expectations

[tall torrent]

Run & gun is a fun one

[finite imp]

no ty

[flat pebble]

yeah old revolver is hand cannon surgical

gotta force them crits somehow

[strange crow]

Hmm well without crit chance weapon perk the build has base crit chance of 20%, with +25% for ADS with stamina, +10% off fresh reload, +5% off dodge, and +20% per headhunter stack

[flat pebble]

unless you use weapspec

[tall torrent]

What weapon?

[strange crow]

Mg1a

[tall torrent]

Oh I was responding to chainaxe

[strange crow]

Oh true haha my b

[flat pebble]

there are two new shovels

[sudden dome]

one shot crusher good

[tall torrent]

On this, I would still recommend damage perks over crit chance

[strange crow]

Idk if a base 25% crit chance would be better than the 20% with better 2-shot stalker or shooter potential

[tall torrent]

But that’s just me

I don’t think 5% crit chance makes much of a difference when you already have headhunter that procs crits reliably

[finite imp]

ooh

[snow pendant]

i have 3 deadbeat cowboys that only use revolvers , refuse to melee or chuck greandes

[flat pebble]

for the new ogryn shovels, absolutely

[snow pendant]

in the end i extract alone

[finite imp]

wasn't expecting hand cannon 4

[unreal bone]

So I have a question can enemies belong to multiple damage types? Like obv the Mutant isn't wearing any armor so can he be an Unarmored Maniac?

[flat pebble]

new mk3 vet shove does insane single target damage but it’s got a very different feel to thammer

[flat pebble]

maniac is an armor type

[strange crow]

Ok sounds good, the 2 shot would rely on the crits but u can't hit those in the first place without the damage perks so now that I think abt it there's one obvious correct answer 😂

Thanks for helping me tho!

[tall torrent]

And MG1A I generally am not aiming to 1 tap enemies (because it can’t, without some goofy marksman keystone build or crits)

[flat pebble]

so it’s either maniac or unarmored, not both

[sudden dome]

mauler is carapace on the head and flak on the chest and soneone said something else for the legs but that doesnt matter

[tall torrent]

MG1a can already 2 tap both gunners, both flamers, 1 tap trapper, sniper, and dish out close to 4k DPS against reaper in the head with headhunter + deadly accurate

Headhunter gives you like 1 in every 4 shot is a crit, something like that, as long as you’re actively hitting headshots in my experience

[flat pebble]

also yeah like the other guy said there are many enemies with multiple different types of armor zones in their body but none both at the same time on any given specific body part

however stuff like elite and carapace work at the same time

because elite is not an armor type

[tall torrent]

Scab bomber, Dreg gunner, Dreg shotgunner are all unarmored + flak

Flak armored torso, unarmored head

Maniac enemies I think are just whole entire body being maniac

[unreal bone]

So after some testing between these 2 pguns the one on the right feels way better. It has the power to 1 shot basically everything up to Mutie and sometimes mutie.. Whereas my Hot Blaze one can't 1 shot dreg ragers.

That 3% damage difference feels way more impactful than the 3% sopping power difference.

[flat pebble]

iirc 78/78 damage stopping power meets the good good breakpoints

[unreal bone]

Well I don't have that yet sadly.

[flat pebble]

it is what it is

[unreal bone]

The one on the right will be my new main pgun until I get a god roll. :p

[flat pebble]

plasma is always going to be choosing some things it’s better at then others

[unreal bone]

Bro this Shredder Autopistol I love seeing the quad 80s 😭

[flat pebble]

too bad it got left back in patch 12

[sudden dome]

I heard one guy cried to the support desk and got his changed

[onyx roost]

I prefer pairing surgical with point blank. It's basically like having 3 stacks of surgical off the draw.

[strange crow]

Alr sry for all my newb questions guys, but I have Headhunter IV and Ghost IV on my Kantrael 1a (headhunter was added via re-blessing), and I have 25% infested damage and 20% maniac damage, I assume I should switch maniac damage, but to what?

[astral ingot]

flak

[snow pendant]

is it effective against horde ?

[strange crow]

I'm going for a crit build so I could have significantly better two shot potential against scab shooters or dreg stalkers/bruisers

[strange crow]

Alr bless ty

I'll just wait to see what the general consensus is, but your input is greatly appreciated!

[flat pebble]

not sure why you would give up hand cannon for that when the crit chance on a good revolver is already like 26% base

1 second of aiming is already over 50% crit on a good revolver with surgical

[flat pebble]

it was fine in my limited testing, not as good as the light spam of the original

[onyx roost]

So I don't have to wait. I don't need the rending and none of the other blessings are better.

[snow pendant]

by original u mean the standard sapper shovel of the old one ?

[flat pebble]

“i don’t need rending” sure

ignore one of the key strengths of the revolver it’s your gun

[flat pebble]

yeah the bog standard sapper shovel

[onyx roost]

I don't. And if I was choosing a weapon for rending it would be boltgun.

[flat pebble]

lol

[snow pendant]

what perks and blessing ? descimator + take a swing/uncanny strike with carapace and maniac ?

[flat pebble]

the mk3?

[flat pebble]

this is simply put not what the bolter is good at either

[snow pendant]

yeah

[flat pebble]

uncanny skullcrusher carapace and whatever other final perk i guess

maniac, flak, elite, unarmored

[frank ether]

skulllcrusher+deci was a combo I enjoyed for the original shovel

[flat pebble]

i can see that being fun, i haven’t tried it out

[frank ether]

too bad I never got a good roll of it

[flat pebble]

suped up push attacks on the old shovel with uncanny do so much to crushers

i just feel like it would be so hard to give up uncanny

[frank ether]

well now that shovel prioritizes head on push attacks properly

I assume uncanny is better

as for the second blessing its your preference power choice

I dont yet know which one works the best

[flat pebble]

a lot more people have been saying skull crusher and i’m inclined to believe them

[frank ether]

I'd believe them

decimator is good in theory

but not a very practical blessing

due to how easily it resets

[flat pebble]

i’m not overly fond of decimator to say the least

i’d prefer headtaker, would make the choice so easy

[frank ether]

in theory you'd think you can just stack decimator on chaff and go bonk on a crusher afterwards with stacked rending and power

except decimator falls off instantly when you stop hitting, or miss a swing

[sleek garden]

on my old shovel I use the blessing that gives you more impact with every hit so when I hit a mauler a few times it knocks him to the ground

[flat pebble]

it did get slightly easier to chain around

[patent valley]

what can i replace thunderstrike and melee crit dmg with?

[frank ether]

look at how hadron bricked this smh

[flat pebble]

you can get to five uncanny stacks on a crusher and push attack them with deck up im pretty sure

[frank ether]

honestly I'm not even mad about all or nothing

I have deadshot builds

I can work with it

[sleek garden]

All or nothing is fun

[frank ether]

but hammerblow 🤢

[flat pebble]

it’s starting to feel malevolent it really is

[sleek garden]

What's wrong with hammerblow

[frank ether]

impact blessings might aswell be useless

[flat pebble]

simply push the enemies you’re trying to damage further from u

[sleek garden]

you've never knocked over a crusher with heavies to the head

[flat pebble]

i’d rather dps them faster

[frank ether]

thats detrimental for shovel

[strange crow]

Alr gamers what are the thoughts? Did I do a stupid or are these ok? Obv I still have one modification left on the power sword

[sleek garden]

Wait that's the new shovel

Idk about that one

with the old shovel you aren't doing much to a crusher I think

[frank ether]

I dont have the time to play around with a single crusher for 30 seconds that is malice tier gameplay

[flat pebble]

old shovel too, you want them stable to line up push attack headshots

[flat pebble]

not true lol

[sleek garden]

Does the push attack headshot do that much to them

[flat pebble]

with uncanny? absolutely

[frank ether]

with uncanny and some power blessing yes, it does

[sleek garden]

I like the special attack that interrupts them

[tall torrent]

That Lasgun could definitely have been better

[frank ether]

I can hit 1000+ overheads with old shovel

thats not terrible

[finite imp]

what perks for revo

[flat pebble]

shovel poke stronk

[sleek garden]

Normally I just leave crushers to the zealots and ogryns and plasma gunner vets on my team

[strange crow]

Yeah I agree I'm not a fan of infested damage but did I do well choosing flak and headhunter?

[patent valley]

decimator and unyielding good for shovel?

[finite imp]

im thinking about trying anormoured with knife

[frank ether]

unyielding is a little undesirable

[serene bough]

are we discussing shovels

[tall torrent]

It’s just barely ok imo

[frank ether]

I dont see the point of unyielding on old shovel at least

[patent valley]

so what other dmg perk should i give to new shovel

[frank ether]

I'd prefer maniac over unyielding

personal choice

[flat pebble]

yeah same

[patent valley]

ok

[flat pebble]

i like unarmored maniac

[frank ether]

I just dont see myself using shovels, especially the old one

as a boss fighting tool

[patent valley]

i'd like to keep the 25% carap since its new shovel

[flat pebble]

ya that’s acceptable

[frank ether]

and even getting %25 unarmored has more general value

[strange crow]

Ah damn should I have kept 20% maniac on it and grinded to get two different blessings? Obv this is my first ranged weapon in the 40s so ig it'll be passable until I build something better right tho?

[frank ether]

as you'll hit a lot of chaff with that armor type

[patent valley]

and ig i replace thunderstrike with decimator for horde clear

[devout atlas]

absolutely the right call, I understand the "it's not very good at horde" sentiment but the trick is you wanna accel your swings

[flat pebble]

bro you had 20 maniac on that??

[tall torrent]

Yea maniac is better than infested for sure

[devout atlas]

basically swipe mouse left and right with swings

I got max melee kills easily with it

[flat pebble]

shaking my mf head

[strange crow]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-baby-cry-crying-gif-25019897

[devout atlas]

weapon specialist is defo the call for it tho

the attack speed is huge

[tall torrent]

Don’t just look for weapon rating as the only metric for what’s good

You want good combos of stuff

Rating is just an arbitrary number

[frank ether]

I assume melee crit damage has to go either way

[tall torrent]

Like, this is what you’re aiming for (different gun but same family)

[frank ether]

thats a good one to experiment with

[flat pebble]

i think i did clarify at the time that “it’s not good at horde” was my experience as a non melee vet but yeah

[devout atlas]

I kept infested, went cara with thrust and slaughter

[frank ether]

thats not a bad idea

[devout atlas]

oh its defo a weapon specialist weapon

[frozen meadow]

Damn the Columnus 5 slaps

[flat pebble]

i can see that for sure

[devout atlas]

infested defo helped, might be one of those weapons

[patent valley]

scatter + manstopper on shotguns

[devout atlas]

unarmored is useless with slaughterer

[frank ether]

I dont think chaxe has good horde clear even with buffs so infested might actually be worthwhile Idk

[devout atlas]

you one tap em with 5 stacks it seems

[patent valley]

when it procs its almost like u're using a mini kickback

[strange crow]

Yeah ik ik I really wanted Deadly Accurate but I have yet to come across it at any rarity

[patent valley]

turn them into sludge

[devout atlas]

but ye enjoying the new chaxe

sadly i gotta do my psyker weekly

[strange crow]

@tall torrent And then to avoid making the same mistakes on the sword what should I do for that? I hope I made the right choice adding power cycler

[frank ether]

thats good to hear

I have some good chaxe rolls

I'll try infested or unarmored see how the horde clear is

[devout atlas]

unarmored is prob unnecessary

need a new silly name

sedationgamer is already old

[compact briar]

almost there bois, we got the unbrickable

[hollow ibex]

Hadron: challenge accepted

[devout atlas]

i mean.

elite + carapace is the goat

[compact briar]

nah i'm flak carapace

preferred

[strange crow]

@tall torrent I was thinking that to make it a jack-of-all-trades that can go against armored guys as well then Supercharge would be a good combo with the power cycler and Carapace damage (and bc the cleave targets are piss-poor on this one) but idk if I should switch out the crit chance instead and keep Slaughterer

This is assuming power sword can even be built for a jack of all trades or if you should go horde all-in

[devout atlas]

Where should I put my last point (this is on a chaxe + revy build so I don't need duck n dive)

[compact briar]

10% rending

[devout atlas]

oh wait imma just go this duh

[sudden dome]

the stamina when dodging lets you tank bosses way better

[devout atlas]

nah im built different

i dont need it

[compact briar]

10% rendingggg

[frank ether]

you have a lot of choices lol

[devout atlas]

10% rending aint gonna do shit on this build ngl bro

its a chaxe revy 😭

gonna go with on your toes

🤤 toes...

[compact briar]

weakness disgusts me

[frank ether]

hbgbdfk

I'd consider

[hallow moat]

Need opinions

[frank ether]

%30 weakspot

see if it helps with any breakpoints

since it helps both of your weapons its worth considering

[devout atlas]

it does not

</3

i've tested alr

[frank ether]

ah, sad

[devout atlas]

i mean im not rlly sad

on your toes is really good lol

[frank ether]

then yea just taking the toes could be it

[flat pebble]

this looks cool

[frank ether]

its rly good toughness gen thats reliable

[hallow moat]

@flat pebble good blessings?

[devout atlas]

melee vets struggle with toughness gen outside of spamming voice

[flat pebble]

elites to maniacs and devestating to rampage

[devout atlas]

so thats nice

[frank ether]

also lets you get away with being out of coherency

yea

[devout atlas]

also my dumbass forgot the ogryn damage talent

[frank ether]

thats one really painful thing for melee vet

[devout atlas]

i can easily 1 shot crushers now

[frank ether]

which that modifier will more or less adress

[flat pebble]

@hallow moat

[compact briar]

personally id dump devestating and take slaughterer or something instead

[flat pebble]

slaughterer?

chainsword?

[compact briar]

damage?

[flat pebble]

it doesn’t have slaughterer

[compact briar]

not slaught the other one

[flat pebble]

rampage

[compact briar]

yea

thats the one

[flat pebble]

yeah i agree i was saying that too

it’s a fine roll

[compact briar]

very

[flat pebble]

i’m still curious how it performs in game, i tried it out in the meat grinder to see the moveset and damage but it doesn’t feel super substantially different

[compact briar]

i like the heavy strikedowns and light cleaves

or am i thinking of diff

[flat pebble]

no that’s about the size of it

it’s mostly diagonal lights with one starting strike down and the heavy is more for single target

[compact briar]

its by far my pref on zealot

[hallow moat]

Since I already have maniacs would I benefit just changing that to 25% @flat pebble

[flat pebble]

no don’t do that

20% is perfectly fine lol

switch elite to flak and devastating to rampage

[hallow moat]

Got ya at first u said change elites to maniacs lmao

[flat pebble]

oh my bad

yeah flak maniac is excellent for that roll

honestly i’m envious

[hallow moat]

I gotta roll some chain swords and get rampage

[flat pebble]

if you have shred you can use that for the time being instead of devastating strike

[robust mesa]

is hand canon 3 the highest

[flat pebble]

DS just is not worth it

[robust mesa]

or is there a 4

[flat pebble]

there’s a 4

[hallow moat]

Got ya I’ll see if I have it

[languid escarp]

we praying this game

[keen elk]

We did it boys, Melk was selling T4 Power Cycler

[terse idol]

[raw steppe]

nice job

now you just need to roll a good base weapon to put it on

[glossy pond]

Brunt’s ears perk up in the distance

[keen elk]

I mean, a 78 and 3 80s seems good to me

[raw steppe]

it has wrath locked in

[terse idol]

I swear some of my damnation games will be going so well we take barely any damage and then suddenly

Bam, everyone dead in under 20 seconds

[placid portal]

Man playing tf2 spy as vet is hella fun

Pop damage stim and 2 tap crushers in the back

[fading grove]

just got a new shovel from Melk and... I really dig it

[finite imp]

how does it dig

[fading grove]

Edited my comment to be more witty. Thanks. I dig it, but not sure how it digs

[finite imp]

just got into a match with an ogryn that spent half the match ranting about how the things he was trying to melee kill were getting shot by the veterans

kept spewing about how he has 1200 hours

didnt even top scoreboard

[fading grove]

Anyone who rants about that shit is lame. As long as teammates are at least trying to be team players I'm good. Half the fun in this game is never really knowing what role I'll be filling next time. Maybe there's another Vet who is quicker to click heads than I am so I'll be more support and melee. Maybe it's all melee players and I have to click all the specialist heads, etc.

what are good shovel blessings? this has thrust and the damage boost on shove blessing. So far liking the play style

[abstract moth]

Guys I was wondering are there any other gods aside the emperor? Good ones tho I don't care about the evil ones

[shrewd marlin]

The four gods of chaos: slaanesh, nurgle, Khorne, and Tzeentch

Oh

Nevermind they are all evil

[idle carbon]

slaughterer to power cycler, infested to maybe Carapace?

[abstract moth]

Lul yes, isn't the omnisiah a God?

Like the machine god

[shrewd marlin]

Something like that

[abstract moth]

But I have no idea if it is an entity or an actual being

[harsh ridge]

no, leave slaughterer and change sunder to rampage

[shrewd marlin]

I think trying to understand 40k lore is futile

[abstract moth]

Hahaha

[sleek garden]

I think the aeldari just got one

well not just got one but it's young

Or something

[abstract moth]

Are those elves right?

[sleek garden]

Space elves I think

It's whoever believes in the greater good thing

[bleak bolt]

pretty sure teh Omnissiah is another aspect of the Emperor of Mankind. However, i read a book a long time ago where the C'tan god of machines or something like that, which was enslaved by the Emperor when he first got to mars is what they actually worhipped - or something like that

[flat pebble]

brutal momentum is better

[bleak bolt]

it's been a hot min and i forget which book

[harsh ridge]

forgot about that, thank you

[bleak bolt]

wouldn't power cycler t4 be better

[abstract moth]

Btw I just discovered like semi xenos like human form but alien I wonder what are they

[flat pebble]

the power sword roll should be power cycler brutal momentum

[hollow cloak]

that vld lasgun tho...

[sleek garden]

I like sunder because in a pinch it'll shear through flak and carapace nicer

[flat pebble]

leave rampage and slaughterer out of it

[flat pebble]

BM increases horde clear by a large amount

[idle carbon]

I've heard that sunder is a decent replacement for BM if you're doing powered strikes a lot, esp for crusher hordes

[flat pebble]

sunder is neat but isn’t worth it

[abstract moth]

I see so it was a god or rather an enslaved god

[flat pebble]

if you’re using the ps6 crushers are non issues with the push attack combo

[idle carbon]

ya this is a mk3

[sleek garden]

they'll be issues in a mixed horde

push attack has 0 stagger on crushers

[flat pebble]

i’d still do pc4 bm

[bleak bolt]

it's the same C'tan pantheon of "gods" that tricked the necrontyr into becoming the necrons we know today

[sleek garden]

Or maulers I think

[flint garden]

hadron why

[bleak bolt]

the emps just happened to put the dragon away and take over the mechanicus

gotta remember which book

[flat pebble]

all else being equal that crusher pack is safer when every single non entity is cleared as soon as possible because BM clears faster

[bleak bolt]

it's a horus heresy book i think

[abstract moth]

Ah I see thanks for the bits of information

[bleak bolt]

no problem man

Dawn of war got me into warhammer40k, then i amassed a collection of books starting about a decade ago

or longer, heck i can't rmeember now

lmao

ive since sold all of my books, but kept the good ones

[abstract moth]

So are the demi xenos evil?

[bleak bolt]

ArchWarhammer and Luetin have great lore videos on Youtube btw

you should check them out

[bleak bolt]

in the imperiums eyes, anything apart from your avg human is "evil" and needs to be killed

which tbh.. is called for, for like 90% of the universe lmao

eldar prob the only exception in certain circumstances

[abstract moth]

So elves too are evil for them

[bleak bolt]

oh yeah

if it aint human, purge it

[compact briar]

but slaanesh

[bleak bolt]

ogryns get a pass... barely

[pulsar drift]

Grendier is so much fun

[bleak bolt]

they're considered abhuman and have less rights than other humans

psykers also get the same disdain, if not moreso

[abstract moth]

Some guy told me the dwarfs like all died or left behind?

[bleak bolt]

they're just taboo

[abstract moth]

Don't remember

[bleak bolt]

bugs ate* them all i think lol

but someone/thing cloned them?? now they're back

[abstract moth]

Yeah I dont get that,like the emperor is a pysker

[flat pebble]

how DARE you

[compact briar]

the emperor is a GOD

[bleak bolt]

yup - it's hypocritical, but thanks tothe Imperial church, he's considered the god of humans

[flat pebble]

yeah first of all respect the hyphen

[abstract moth]

That's what I heard in conversation in game

[flat pebble]

it’s a joke lol

[acoustic wyvern]

Corpse god

[whole moon]

We LITERALLY only made it through the warp due to Big E not just being a Psyker but by being the most powerful Psyker and he's half dead too

[bleak bolt]

which funny enough, the imperial church was based off of a daemon princes book lmao

[abstract moth]

Ah

[flat pebble]

the god-emperor is the strongest human psyker in the universe

he also dead

[bleak bolt]

undead

[acoustic wyvern]

And rotting

[bleak bolt]

like a lich

[compact briar]

dead but also not dead

because GOD

[flat pebble]

also he was against being referred to as a god at the outset

[bleak bolt]

the golden throne is the phylactery lol

[flat pebble]

the imperium used to be militantly atheistic

[bleak bolt]

only the Imperial Truth

ie science and stuff, was their "religion" in the 30k universe

[abstract moth]

Oh thanks, I didn't know that, would be cool to use a dwarf in darktide

[acoustic wyvern]

Emperor identifies as a crypt lord

[flat pebble]

emperor taps 4 black mana

[compact briar]

zealots play RDW change my mind

[bleak bolt]

man if they introduced a Leagues of Votann guy into darktide, people would literally lose their crap lmao

it would be so cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riyVcdAOOC4&list=PLl6BRvEJ-auZ5aYPHj1B3pKJ_pLjg9qNU&index=6

@abstract moth here ya go

that should be a playlist link btw

luetin is the man when it comes to lore stuff and making it sensical

but you're welcome for making you go down a rabbit hole lol

[thorn yoke]

He's only mostly dead. It's very different from being all the way dead

[flat pebble]

counter point - nuh uh

[hallow moat]

Does rampage go up to lvl 4?

[flat pebble]

i’ve been nearly mostly dead and think it was different than being dead so i can imagine this to be the case

[abstract moth]

So basically we are really evil like imagine if humans discover a new race and they're peacefull and dont want war, the empire doesn't care and want to kill them only because they are not human

[flat pebble]

yes

[thorn yoke]

Peace? In the Grim Dark Future? Where there is only war?

Nonsense

[bleak bolt]

yes and no - imagine for 10k plus years, you've got nothing but be backstabbed, swindled, left for dead, all of the above.... you're gonna have trust issues

major trust issues

[thorn yoke]

Trust not the Xenos

[bleak bolt]

so its easier just to kill everything and reign supreme

[flat pebble]

the 40k universe’s universe is BAD

[bleak bolt]

lol yep - it's grimdark, and the few good things really ever are "good" in totality

except for salamanders

[flat pebble]

book one of the horus heresy features giant spider people who killed people so hard i seem to recall the imperium literally named their planet Murder

[bleak bolt]

Good guy salamander

[tall torrent]

Salamanders burn eldar kids

[bleak bolt]

Blood Angels disapprove of this message.

[thorn yoke]

the eldar kids wer asking for it.

[bleak bolt]

welp - here it is. Rarely ever good in totality lmao

dont expect kindness to go beyond humanity - even then, most humans livea miserable life in universe

[flat pebble]

loken OP

[abstract moth]

Ah well yes that Is not good for trust but then again don't we sound super racist? Btw isn't true we use ratlings as soldiers? I suppose they are enslaved too

[bleak bolt]

they're the best snipers in the Imperium.. even tho they're abhuman, like the ogryns, they ahve their uses lol

[flat pebble]

abhumans are used by the imperium

[abstract moth]

What are salamanders like fish people?

[terse idol]

I mean again the imperium always makes exceptions if it helps them

[bleak bolt]

nope, a space amrine chapter

of pyromaniacs lol

[terse idol]

Psykers.... pretty heretical

But reeaalllly useful

[flat pebble]

hell a bunch of inquisitors are powerful psykers

[bleak bolt]

they just eat all the food

• Ogryn

[terse idol]

Yeep

The imperium using blanks

[flat pebble]

rip voke

you were a real one

[terse idol]

little heretical but they're good

[bleak bolt]

Warhammer40k is the coolest universe i never wanna live in

is the way you can sum it up

[placid portal]

Until they start blowing up

[flat pebble]

Warhammer 40k: Oops! All fascists

[placid portal]

But blowing is probs a mercy

[whole moon]

Ecclesiarchy? Yes.. yes.. he's at it again... Yes.. with the bird face avatar... Yes.. denying the God Emperor.. yes.. Praise the Emperor!

[abstract moth]

I wonder who would eat more ratlings or ogryns, I mean if they are as many like in vermintide they were a lot of ratlings

[flat pebble]

i like that event horizon and warhammer 40k have the same premise

warpspace travel goes through hell

[placid portal]

Like comparing elephants and rats
Rats eat 5 times their weight
Elephants eat 300kgs of food

[flat pebble]

ratlings are… not rats

[whole moon]

Hadn't read this dialogue before but yup

[placid portal]

They're halflings in space

[bleak bolt]

nightmare fuel made manifest

[abstract moth]

Like if was in I'd either be a bounty hunter or a rouge trader or a Cadian soldier, is an awesome world if you like killing stuff

[bleak bolt]

again - best universe you never wanna live in. You either live long enough to get brutally murdered, or become a dark eldar's love seat

[flat pebble]

let me ask you, how familiar are you with knife at a base level

[bleak bolt]

for a sociopath, i would suppose it is a cool universe LOL

[whole moon]

We'd all be dead already and you know it

[abstract moth]

Yeah but I mean if the ratlings would be loads they'd eat the ogryns too lul

[flat pebble]

cadian soldier
how’s the vacuum of space rn buddy

[bleak bolt]

the chances of you becoming any of those things and not jsut menial working yourself to death on a hive world is very.. very slim

[flat pebble]

i’d become a servitor i can feel it

[bleak bolt]

higher chance of being corpse starch than a cop

[abstract moth]

I know they eat actual rats

[placid portal]

Rather be a servitor

[bleak bolt]

eveyrone in this server would be the medicae servitor in game

lmao

[placid portal]

For a door

[devout atlas]

rip on those perks since they're both ass sadly

[flat pebble]

“they eat actual rats” huh?

[placid portal]

Dont be fooled by the door servitor

[abstract moth]

Hey! I'm not! You know just pretending

[bleak bolt]

speaking of the medicae servitor, the one voice line - "please kill me".. bruh

[placid portal]

I will serve empra by not opening for heretics

[flat pebble]

“i am so lonel-y-y-y”

we do a little lobotomizing as a treat

only a little

[placid portal]

Though flying skull servitors would be preferrable fate

[mellow adder]

How does No respite work? Shoot once to stagger and shot again for the 20% damage buff?

[placid portal]

Ye

[bleak bolt]

thing is - the mechanicus can make it a punishment to leave you just enough conciousness to know your eternal torment

so grimdark

[abstract moth]

Lul my not good side would like to dissent

[flint garden]

or shout or throw a shredder

[flat pebble]

isn’t this the case with the traitor in dt

the one that’s the ordos currency cosmetic vendor

[bleak bolt]

im not sure - is that what happened to the "traitor"

wait WHAT

pics plz

[pastel geode]

septemer 9th 2024 space marine 2 release date annouced

[south prairie]

A servitor and still manning the same store

[vital garnet]

How are ppl building the vet shovels?

[flat pebble]

uncanny skullcrusher

[abstract moth]

What, they lost their world but I many survived plus aren't they supposed to be the best soldiers?

[flat pebble]

yeah i just mean a bunch are scattered in space rn because cadia is space dust lol

[bleak bolt]

DUDE

i never noticed

[whole moon]

Spoiler alert

[bleak bolt]

serves the traitor right

[whole moon]

Fucking there's the plot gone. Literally the max level reveal

[south prairie]

The name also suggests that, MV1 and her original name was Mara Vinci

[placid portal]

Lmao

[flat pebble]

can’t tell if irony

hoping irony

[bleak bolt]

where are y'all getting this lore stuff

[whole moon]

It is 🙂

[flat pebble]

it’s so hard to tell in here

we have some dolts

[south prairie]

Talk to her before you hit 30, her name comes up in the subtitles

[placid portal]

Dialogues from talking to em

[flat pebble]

literally dan abnett

[whole moon]

My wasted fucking childhood and also Leutin on YouTube

[placid portal]

Dont need no plot for killin heretics

[abstract moth]

Yeah they're a cutscene where a ratling eats a rat in vermintide 2 lul when I saw it I was okay they're definitely to sympathetic to normal rats

[flat pebble]

im not sure how this was a response to what i said is my point lol

reread my comment i didn’t say anything about eating

?

[bleak bolt]

i guess abnett just world build for FS, then FS wrote teh script for the game

cuz

the story quality is so unlike abnett

and ive read a majority of his works

[flat pebble]

which is to say, darktide has no story and dan abnett writes stories

[abstract moth]

Yeah but they're still alive and kicking livening for vengeance

[whole moon]

I think the story is mainly the vox broadcasts, inter character dialogue and the setting. Its happening around us but not directly with us

[placid portal]

Bc we do not matter

[flat pebble]

lupus i need to explicitly ask do you think ratlings in 40k are literally rat people

[whole moon]

If you played Elite you know what I'm saying

[flat pebble]

yes

[bleak bolt]

possibly - they did have a video interviewing him at some point before release

[placid portal]

I swear you've mistaken ratlings for skaven?

[flat pebble]

that’s what im thinking rn

because ratling gunners in vermintide

[finite imp]

Skaven are my fav sigmar race

I wish they were in 40k

[flat pebble]

skaven are rad in total war

[abstract moth]

You said they eat actual rats huh? I answered where I saw it

[finite imp]

Space rats would be fun

[flat pebble]

no i didn’t lol

i didn’t say that

[frank ether]

this discussion is giving me ptsd flashbacks of that one guy saying darktide has a great story

[abstract moth]

Wait

[placid portal]

Also snort crack

[flat pebble]

please reread my comment like i just said

[whole moon]

Humans are the 40k Skaven;)

[abstract moth]

Skaven and ratlings aren't the same?

[flat pebble]

nO

[placid portal]

And murderkill plotplan each otherkin

[finite imp]

What story

[flat pebble]

THATS WHAT WEVE BEEN SAYING

[frank ether]

exactly

[abstract moth]

Faaaaa

[flat pebble]

ratlings are hobbits

[placid portal]

LMAOOOO

[flat pebble]

in space

[abstract moth]

Hahaah

[whole moon]

We live in filth, we eat our own dead, we have zero morals.. were Skaven

[placid portal]

But they become gollum in combat

[bleak bolt]

great atmosphere and world maybe - but the plot is a spaghetti monster

[abstract moth]

Man I'm sadge I thought skaven made it to ultrasoldier style lol

[placid portal]

We also have copius ammounts of warp dust and bullets

MMMMM Must-must take-do warpdust

[abstract moth]

So wait are ratlings like the little nurglets then?

[placid portal]

So long as chaos exists I think warpdust will exist

[abstract moth]

They're very tiny

[flat pebble]

what lol

ratlings are space hobbits

man

[abstract moth]

So they are tall as dwarfs?

[placid portal]

Close enough

[abstract moth]

F I thought skaven had their own regiment in 40k 😦

[placid portal]

Nope skaven died after wiping out wh fantasy world

[flat pebble]

there’s no world in which a zealot has a voice line saying they like ratlings and that ratling is a skaven

they can barely ally amongst themselves

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-darktide-sharpshooter-darktide-veteran-hello-chat-darktide-hello-chat-gif-2742873438399829862

[abstract moth]

Wha did they blew everything up for real?

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-chat-darktide-40k-warhammer-warhammer-darktide-gif-8052621726047573409

[compact briar]

top shelf gifery

[astral ingot]

they crashed the moon into the planet and later nuked it

[abstract moth]

@astral blade hi! And goodbye!

[abstract moth]

Man they were really crazy, so nobody made it in the vermintide world? If so is sad

[astral ingot]

the entire planet was sucked into the warp and exists on in "The Age of Sigmar"

[abstract moth]

Could you please elaborate? So the world is still alive and now all the races in that world are fighting against the skavens?

[astral ingot]

Games Workshop decided to essentially reset the setting entirely in a High Fantasy setting

[real drift]

Whats the difference between the 3 recon lasguns?

[flat pebble]

they’re all uniquely bad

[whole moon]

Levels of dissapointment

[flat pebble]

damage, ROF, ammo consumption

but they’re all bad rn so don’t bother

[abstract moth]

So bum got sucked into warp everything turns to medieval age and they constantly fight against skavens?

[flat pebble]

hey soldier sex number is typing

[junior needle]

Fire rate, damage. 7a has not shit damage to unyielding while the others do, and uses 2 ammo per shot but for higher damage. I can confirm they're all quite bad currently.

HE KNOWS

[flat pebble]

did you hear that the recon lasgun is actually designed intentionally to be bad soldier

[astral ingot]

everyone fights everyone, people are seperated into elemental factions for the most part

[sleek garden]

I feel like the recon lasguns are designed to be fired indiscriminately into hordes

That's the fun way to use them

[junior needle]

to be fired into hordes while you vacuum suck all the ammo pickups

[abstract moth]

Hmmm okay thanks a lot for the info! Yeah that is definitely my favorite warhammer world

[junior needle]

Give em the big slurp

[flat pebble]

there aren’t any guns designed to do that lol none of them have that ammo economy

[astral ingot]

same, shame it's gone

[flat pebble]

not even the flamer

[sleek garden]

I always felt like I used the flamer wrong because I barely use the secondary flamer

[abstract moth]

Like they're not doing stuff on it anymore?

[flat pebble]

the secondary flamer? you mean the sustained stream?

[junior needle]

I did not, but at this point I won't doubt it for a second

[sleek garden]

I kept puffing ragers with the primary and then id chop the crap out of them

kablooey...

[flat pebble]

im referencing that dumb argument you had with that dude yesterday

who kept trying to have salient points

[astral ingot]

Kind of, GW shelved Warhammer Fantasy for Age of Sigmar

[devout atlas]

New chaxe fun on weapon specialist ngl

what's good gamers

[flat pebble]

the flamer’s point is stacking burn stacks with the sustained flame so

learning a lot about people

[abstract moth]

Which I'm guessing age of sigmar isnt exactly the same thing?

[junior needle]

I don't recall any especially dumb arguments, but I've been on the internet for some time and my bar for that is very high

[flat pebble]

the recon lasgun conversations taking their toll

[devout atlas]

M1 on flamer is kinda just for pox bursters and trappers to me ngl. Flamer on Zealot is all about abusing Chastise which makes your flame DOTs get 100% rending for the duration and melt Crushers lol

[flat pebble]

flamer is for elite packs in general

[sleek garden]

The m1 has good stagger

[flat pebble]

it does have good stagger

[sleek garden]

you can stop people for a second

[tall torrent]

Isn’t carapace rending capped at 50%

[flat pebble]

but the burn stacks

[tall torrent]

Or does chastise somehow bypass the 50% cap on carapace

[flat pebble]

idk but chastise isn’t rending afaik

[devout atlas]

Well idk exactly what Chastise does in terms of numbers

[flat pebble]

it’s some wonky back end shit

[devout atlas]

it was originally a bug

[tall torrent]

Cuz I’m pretty sure carapace rending is capped unlike all others

[devout atlas]

now its a feature

[astral ingot]

it has some of the Big players (Nagash is the leader of the Death element faction for example, and the Chaos gods exist, but mortals like Karl Franz and Thorgrim Grudgebearer are long gone)

[compact briar]

Is the columnus mk 2 good generally speaking

[junior needle]

Chastise does something weird like reducing carapace to flak, unless it's been changed recently. As far as I'm aware all armor types work the same and your modifier against carapace is only capped by the base modifier and your effective access to rending.

[flat pebble]

is that the iag or the braced

[devout atlas]

still yeah flamer on chastise is pretty nice for deleting packs of maulers and ragers, it can do a number on crushers although outright killing them can take a while longer than just a solid bonk or stab

[junior needle]

Brauto, it's ok

[compact briar]

braced

[junior needle]

Generally considered inferior to the agri

Not sure how it stacks against the new graia

[flat pebble]

yeah this what i was getting at, i just don’t know chastise is rending so idk if it would interact with that cap at all anyway

[abstract moth]

Ah I see, I hope they picked up at some point or someone else does stuff on it because is the best, that's how I got into the warhammer franchise

[junior needle]

Rending caps at 16(?) stacks, so if your stacks are at 5% you should get a max of 80%

Onslaught has stacks of 2.5 so strictly speaking is less effective with the same cap

[sleek garden]

I thought in the patch notes you could get 100% rending

[junior needle]

You can, I've never heard of carapace having unique protections to prevent that

[flat pebble]

it’s just the way the talent works

[flat pebble]

are you responding to me re: rending

[junior needle]

I was responding to the crocodile

Or is it a dragon

[flat pebble]

header makes it seem like a dragon

[abstract moth]

It looks like a dragon

[compact briar]

i say its an alligator

[junior needle]

The never ending battles bleed into one another

[flat pebble]

we’ll see after a while

[junior needle]

I know only war

[compact briar]

maybe later

[flat pebble]

me in zealot chat whenever knives come up

[tall torrent]

That’s brittleness, caps at 16 stacks of 5% I think
Only way to reach that is Ogryn’s ripper gun “can opener” blessing

Onslaught is 16 stacks of 2.5%

[abstract moth]

Alligators are the sexier crocodiles

[flat pebble]

SUS

[junior needle]

Whoops, that's right it is brittleness now. Or was always brittleness and was mislabeled.

[tall torrent]

Rending goes to 100% on unyielding, maniac and flak, and 50% on carapace, after it reaches cap it goes into 4:1 dmg conversion

[abstract moth]

[flat pebble]

which functionally is max 5% right?

[junior needle]

First I've ever heard about the carapace bit, where'd you find that?

[flat pebble]

i think “overmax” rending is 120% with t4 uncanny strikes

[tall torrent]

Heard someone mention it in here before and I tested revolver before & after patch

Hand cannon 4

[flat pebble]

oh i guess with vet talents it could get even higher

[tall torrent]

Post-patch mk2 revolver actually does more dmg to carapace

Even though the rending is nerfed quite substantially

Because post-patch tree allows u to reach the 20% Ogryn dmg fairly easily while still taking weapon specialist and left side weakpoint + deadshot

[junior needle]

Wasn't it only nerfed noticeably at lower tiers

[tall torrent]

No, lv4 hand cannon got nerfed from 80% to 60% I think

[flat pebble]

wasn’t it 10 or 20 across the board

[tall torrent]

Which would have made a massive difference

If it wasn’t capped

[flat pebble]

that makes sense

sometimes i wonder if fatshark forgets their own mechanics

[junior needle]

You right, I was thinking of the backstab one. Makes no sense that the same pistol would do more damage with the same build though, given the rending nerf AND the carapace damage nerf. Something sounds fishy.

[tall torrent]

But yea carapace max rend is 50%

On vet u can actually reach it normally with rending strike + onslaught

On Columnus IAG it melts crushers pretty fast

[flat pebble]

i mean it sounds like it was just a tree reachability thing

what do you guys take on your columnus builds

melee weapons wise

[tall torrent]

I used to be a Columnus spammer until I got a true godroll helbore2

[flat pebble]

i have yet to spam columnus, people always say it replaced the auto pistol and i never liked the autopistol

[tall torrent]

My journey basically went
MG12 -> Vraks3 -> Columnus5 -> Helbore2 / Revolver2

[flat pebble]

i just got a good helbore mk1 and am loving it

the extra oomf goes a long way for when you just wanna click heads as best as you can

[serene bough]

this new laspistol is kinda bad

[flat pebble]

the range sucks

im kinda glad i only needed to roll one to get a decent roll because i played it one game and was unimpressed

[serene bough]

what range is it supposed to work it

in

[tall torrent]

Good question

Doesn’t it perform like an MG12 but in pistol form

[flat pebble]

the damage profile would make you hope

[abstract moth]

I really like it is pretty powerful imo and I'm using it on auric dam, in heresy rocks

[flat pebble]

it seems mostly for mid range and shorter but i’ve yet to look at the stats to confirm

[finite imp]

Well fellas

My discord mobile app just updated

[serene bough]

maybe i havent played enough with it yet

[finite imp]

So I guess this is it

https://tenor.com/view/drinking-bleach-mug-clean-yourself-cleaning-gif-10137452

[abstract moth]

Btw guys what advantages would you use on a hammer?

[flat pebble]

one of my high school’s alums i knew works at discord. i’ll pass along the complaint i have her in linkedin

[finite imp]

There's a hotfix coming that is, at a minimum, going to tweak the flame damage

Hopefully they also y'know

Make the new weapons not suck as much

[finite imp]

Ty

Make sure the complaint is just that guy drinking bleach with zero context

[abstract moth]

I like em not all of them but most, the new knife is pretty cool I like the first 2 heavies

[tall torrent]

does rending reduce your dmg if your dmg multiplier against a specific armor type is bigger than 1?

[abstract moth]

What's rending in English like in the game?

[tall torrent]

It’s just called “rending”

[abstract moth]

Like make em stop and do more damage?

[tall torrent]

No

[abstract moth]

Hmmm il check on internet rl quick

[tall torrent]

Rending improves your damage against specific armor types your weapon struggles against

[abstract moth]

Ah

[frail bolt]

any suggestions of wut to swap?

block eff for maniac or flak?

[old pike]

It's percentage of armor DR ignored. When you're over 100% it gives you some additional damage but I forget the exact multiplier

[abstract moth]

Ahh to me is called penetration translated in English I see now

[midnight mortar]

It's reduced by 1/4.

[astral blade]

So brittleness is global correct

?

[midnight mortar]

Yes. As in it can be taken advantage of by everyone, not just the player who applied it.

[old pike]

Yes, armor penetration would probably be a better word for it

[tardy wharf]

Hey this new las pistol variant fucking slaps

Like bruh i can take this thing through heresy no sweat.

[tall torrent]

Brittleness is a debuff applied to enemies so your whole team benefits when attacking that enemy in particular

Rending is a buff to yourself so you get dmg bonus to every enemy you’re hitting without the need to build stacks on whatever enemy you’re hitting

[wooden oriole]

Does any one know if the chain rev attacks stack brittleness from the vet perk?

The 2.5% up to 16 stacks

[frail bolt]

lemme check

[brazen bay]

which one do you guys think I should use? Whichever one gets axed im pulling the surgical off of it. The one on the left I could put unarmored and handcannon but im not sure if taht is worth taking the hit to dmg and pen

[atomic zephyr]

right is practically perfect

[frail bolt]

well

[atomic zephyr]

oh

[frail bolt]

i'll be damed

[atomic zephyr]

that crit bonus

[frail bolt]

it does

[frail bolt]

it does

[atomic zephyr]

nvm yeah keep left

[brazen bay]

that is what appeals to me on that one

[frail bolt]

just tested it. i'll be damned

[wooden oriole]

Thanks

[brazen bay]

but im not sure if that crit bonus is worth though for the 5% dmg and the penatration hit

[atomic zephyr]

holy shit, it stacks brittleness?

[frail bolt]

yep

i just tested it

[wooden oriole]

With the talent

[frail bolt]

lemme see if i can record it....

[wooden oriole]

I used to use the inf auto 5 to single mag dump crushers in damnation

But now I can chain axe or sword them

Also my God the revolver+swap special+ 25% damage on other weapon on kill is amazing

[frail bolt]

damn. why is it like that

[placid portal]

Ye apparently Skaven decided not to kill-slaughter each other and join-combine instead which kinda screwed everyone

[frail bolt]

idkw it uploaded as mkv instead of mp4

there we go

without the brittleness tree perk

[brazen bay]

well upon further testing the revolver on the left with the perks changed up and handcannon put on it it still one shots everything in the face short of ogryns and maulers crit or not

and those get taken out with two crits or 3-4 no crit shots

that 25% bonus dmg to unarmored and manicas makes a difference

[frail bolt]

and WITH the brittleness

wait

i think im just stupid

nvm

it doesnt

[frail bolt]

sorry my guy. ignore me

it does not

was just me being dumb

[keen wharf]

i got blessed with a decent mission reward, too bad its not that good compared to the Columnus Mk V.

[fresh saddle]

i don't know if any of these folks are in the discord, but just had one of the best runs i've ever had, #blessedbythethrone

[rancid tinsel]

What do you guys think of my new shovel?

[flat pebble]

guys in pug im explaining how brutal momentum works to on power sword “idk i feel supercharged is best in slot”

[south spindle]

Decent, but you wanna lose Thundershite for Uncanny

[sullen scarab]

For the new shovel, do you just want to slap Thrust/Uncanny on it?

[flat pebble]

the unwashed masses

[rancid tinsel]

you think uncanny is necessary? rending seems useless when im one shotting crushers and bulwarks on auric

[south spindle]

If you wanna delete Crushers on a melee setup yes, otherwise SkullCrusher/Uncanny or Uncanny/Deci'

[flat pebble]

t4 uncanny is 100% rending and a 5% damage boost it’s very good

[sullen scarab]

got it

[flat pebble]

it’s gonna help you do basically everything

[south spindle]

Well i have a better base roll and dont have Uncanny, but only one shot them on crits, so yes, it buys you a consistent breakpoint

I have same perks tho

And Thrust

[sullen scarab]

Man, game decided to give me All or nothing twice wtf

[south spindle]

All or Nothing/Take a Swing is probably pretty cracked aswell

[sullen scarab]

no way lmao

I might build that way then

[south spindle]

For the strike down pick-attack

[sullen scarab]

might as well

oooo I see

I guess I can yeet the T1/T2 thrust for take a swing then

maybe use the left one and put Flak on it?

instead of unarmored?

[south spindle]

Ye i would

[sullen scarab]

ok haha

sounds like it could be fun

[south spindle]

It'll smush gunners on one stack of thrust alone

[sullen scarab]

yeah

[south spindle]

So yeah, TaS will also do it

[sullen scarab]

makes sense

so I need to push people and be at low stamina

to get the shovel to crush someone

[placid portal]

Love meming shovelling the enemys' graves in their face

[sullen scarab]

take a swing feels kinda wierd with the shovel, seems like I fold the shovel, I push, then my character does a sweep attack instead of the overhead strike

even if I wait after the push to not use the push attack

[whole moon]

is that the weapons mark, I remember mine being diff, checking now

[rancid tinsel]

take a swing isnt the greatest on the new mark imo, because the push goes into a sweep rather than the overhead

[whole moon]

yeah you want the Mk3 @sullen scarab

overhead from block push

[sullen scarab]

ahhhh ok

so take a swing is better on the mkiii

[patent orbit]

hey all, is this an acceptable stat distribution, or should I save my plasteel

im not positive what the ideal numbers are

[sullen scarab]

should work for now, if you don't have a plasma gun, they fixed the weird charge damage bug

damage and stopping power are good

ammo is good

thermal resistance is fine

[patent orbit]

charge rate is nice

[sullen scarab]

You reckon I can do anything with these two shovels? Just swap out both blessings on the left most one and call it a day?

[spring spindle]

Weird question. I just got the Killshot’s Duty pants

I wasn’t even using volley fire. Any question how that happened?

[paper brook]

Anybody else experience a weird glitch with the plasma where occasionally when shooting the animation won't play but will still register the gun being shot?

[serene sage]

yeah

it's known

very common bug

[gritty dock]

I have a question: if I put a skin on a weapon, can it be removed later or does it stay permanently? 🙂

[serene sage]

you can remove it

and reapply whenever

[gritty dock]

thx

[rancid tinsel]

what should I be looking for in terms of perks for chainswords?

[whole moon]

I haven't used any of the new shovels yet so not the best to offer advice in that aspect. Still playing with other stuff for now

[whole moon]

Flak/maniac

[sullen scarab]

sounds good, guess I'll mess around with it lol

[placid portal]

Flip Shovels deleting enemies in close range is one of the best thing I've gotten in danktide

[paper brook]

Did it start happening after the recent update? I don't remember it happening before the update

[gritty dock]

Perks: Flak/Maniac next Unarmoured, Unyielding, Elites. I think there is such an order if you don't have the first two.

[placid portal]

new update makes things go weird all the time

need a hotfix