veteran-class

[atomic zephyr]

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[sudden dome]

you have no choice but to face tank them because if you dont your team will die and then everyone wipes, every time I havent face tanked that happens

[worldly grove]

Delet immediately

[slow spade]

Recon is best

[worldly grove]

Yes

[serene sage]

Yes

[slow spade]

??? Just kill them literally that easy

[weak venture]

I jumped into Damnation with 0 talents selected and had a great time

[worldly grove]

Vraks III and revolvos are doodoo
Fr fr

[atomic zephyr]

dude im still fucking pissed i got a god roll 6d recon lasgun and then they nerfed shocktrooper the day after

im never going to forgive fatshark for that

[ancient path]

what happens when you play meta.

[serene sage]

Honestly idc cause I hate recons

[slow spade]

I posted this pic before patch 14 💪💪💪

[atomic zephyr]

i want to love recons so bad

[sudden dome]

yea it is that easy, but if I do it at range theyll kill 2 people and the other guy wont res them so Ill have to and then hell die and its just me and I cant fight hordes on my own

[atomic zephyr]

theyre so cool

[worldly grove]

Rending crit nerf > lashose nerf

[atomic zephyr]

but theyre so shit

[atomic zephyr]

that too that was also bad

[sudden dome]

the sword one is super easy and the ranged one is literally just walk back and forth

[slow spade]

Sorry, I simply make my team win 💅💅💅

[nimble sentinel]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ac78632-bb83-4cc5-ace5-9d3b9713a5c9/lord-of-the-hive-return-of-the-recon?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[serene sage]

I was expecting magical recon Psyker

[nimble sentinel]

do it, coward

[slow spade]

I wish

[atomic zephyr]

hrm.

no shock trooper?

why?

i mean it is still free ammo

[south garnet]

yea this is a bummer

[nimble sentinel]

not enough ammo saving, works on crit strings not crits themselves

need points for all the rending

[atomic zephyr]

i see

[worldly grove]

I have literally found 1 single reason to use the +10% redning keystone buff, and that's on a gun that already shits on Carapace

[junior needle]

Your uh, subjective feeling of enjoyment is not exactly the best measurement of performance. But I can post some video examples if you like.

[atomic zephyr]

ill try and give it a shot when i get home, unfortunately my recon las is a dumdum infernus and im not keen on spending more to get headhunter lol

[atomic zephyr]

should be alright tho

[atomic zephyr]

Oh.

Okay.

[nimble sentinel]

that was with a +poxwalker and crit chance recon

[atomic zephyr]

well now i definitely have a reason to use it

[slow spade]

??? Yeah it is. I'm literally never wrong

[worldly grove]

Very funky

[south garnet]

why do people take the tough regen on being away from enemies over the stun immunity on toughness break?

[atomic zephyr]

could i use executioner's stance with it?

[south garnet]

curious

[worldly grove]

TinyAngryCrab approves lol

[atomic zephyr]

i generally prefer exe stance on gun builds

[slow spade]

When is your toughness EVER broken now?

[nimble sentinel]

yeh probably

[serene sage]

because it works more often than we really give it credits

[south garnet]

hm, fair point I guess

[serene sage]

I am being serious

[junior needle]

Don't look too impressed, that's the boosted ping talent in combination with 2x rending. Here's the same setup and method with a columnus.

[slow spade]

"But gunners can drain my toughness to 0" the toughness regen talent lets you regen while under fire

[serene sage]

it lets you dueling down shooters and gunners

[atomic zephyr]

i already have a columnus build with marksmans focus, im lookin for a reason to use recon las

[wanton dawn]

We are making good looking bp video ?

[south garnet]

I just genuinely never take it because it seems like a complete nothing-node to me, so I've never tested it lol

[nimble sentinel]

have you also considered my cat icon is cooler than soldiers

[atomic zephyr]

a valid point

[south garnet]

I didn't realize the talent still worked while actively being shot at, though that does make sense

interesting

[atomic zephyr]

lasguns are just cooler than autoguns what can i say

[serene sage]

honestly both are really meh imo, i still prefer stun immune one cause I'm hybird
but sharpshooters SHOULD take the other one, unironically

[worldly grove]

Columnus must be played with weapon switch, fire frenzy IV and speed potion

I mean blue stimm

Maximum brrrrrt

[junior needle]

Strictly speaking, there's currently no reason to use any of them over alternatives given their weak comparative performance. You will get considerably better performance with other guns, both dps and ammo wise.

[south garnet]

yea I tend to be up close and personal most the time on any build

[untold mulch]

Fr fr

[slow spade]

Its generally better to get the regen one now as you'll usually be dead before your toughness is 0

[atomic zephyr]

yeah but if i wanted peak performance i'd just use my plasma gun

[serene sage]

i don't get hit, both are dead nodes

[slow spade]

I've actually died with toughness still

[slow spade]

Very true

[south garnet]

JUST

DODGE

[slow spade]

But I mean, Survivalist good

[slow spade]

By that logic, both are shit UwU

they are

[south garnet]

Vet tree is completely unnecessary

learn to dodge

[untold mulch]

[south garnet]

endgame is leaving tree blank

[worldly grove]

Elf talk detected

[untold mulch]

Our nodes should actually nerf us

Add a -

[worldly grove]

disgusting

[untold mulch]

to everything

[south garnet]

just a selection of crippling injuries

[untold mulch]

-25% ammo, -10% rending

[untold mulch]

CANON VET PROGRESSION

[atomic zephyr]

break the vet's legs before every match

[serene sage]

vets now mount teammate ogryns to battle

[junior needle]

Well if you want to go dumpster diving then that's your choice. I've done my job and warned you fairly ahead of time. Also shocktrooper is still worth taking for ammo efficiency, at least compared to some other things. That build isn't mine and there's a few changes I'd make.

[untold mulch]

At level 30 you are hit with the YOUR INJURIES ARE NOT COMBAT RELATED

[serene sage]

if teammate is dead, they have an option to tame enemy ogryns

[atomic zephyr]

yeah i understand, im not expecting to carry auric histg off the bat
i cant even do that with a meta build

[slow spade]

Give me 3 years

[atomic zephyr]

ive already done all the plasteel investment cause i have the gun so what's there to lose

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slow spade]

Your plasteel UwU

[serene sage]

oh my brother

[willow cloud]

ok the new shovel IS a thunderhammer for the vet

[atomic zephyr]

NOOO NOT AGAIN

[worldly grove]

So
Actual question
Does anyone run Skullbreaker+Uncanny on standart vet shovel, is it any good?

[serene sage]

what server is this? so I make sure to stay away from it

[atomic zephyr]

i use hammerblow uncanny on the old shovel

[slow spade]

I use it to display when I'm joking. I have to admit it DOES work

[atomic zephyr]

it's decent

[slow spade]

Starsector discord

"You should spam scouts with snipers and space marines with missile launcher"

Vs

"You should spam scouts with snipers and space marines with missile launchers UwU"

[untold mulch]

[junior needle]

Nuh uh

[slow spade]

I've stopped getting people "nuh uh" to braindead takes

So it works

[slow spade]

Oh shit the timing

[serene sage]

She fat

[rain steppe]

How important is finesse

[slow spade]

Its crit damage and weakspot hit

Psword should have a majority of hits on weakspot

[toxic leaf]

nothing like playing a game where you leave an elevator checkpoint

and then 2 pox bursters walk in

[rain steppe]

Sadge, so not good then I guess

[serene sage]

Honestly it's fine

Take it

No point chasing perfect, that sword is very usabl5

[toxic leaf]

you'd be silly not to use that unless you have something else better

especially if that hits pc4 or you have it already

[rain steppe]

I'll see how omnissiah blesses me

[slow spade]

Could be better but it could be a lot worse

But yes Finesse matters for psword

[hollow ibex]

Fine as a stopgap

[serene sage]

Story of my life

[slow spade]

MVP = minimum viable product 💪💪💪💪💪💪

[toxic leaf]

i hit 30 on veteran, bought a white mk6, and hadron turned it into this

a bit of a shame i dont have 4 dodges

[slow spade]

The purest glass cannon

[south garnet]

we were on that satellite television repair mission, just finishing up the area with the little toll booth you have to man while a bunch of heretics try to skate and steal the validated parking tickets, and the elevator up to the empty comic con convention floor was just closing. Breathe a sigh of relief - the doors had closed and none of us had even taken chip damage post-heal, dealing with gunners/bursters/etc.
Hear one jump, blow up a floor below us through closed doors - ALL of us fly up in the air, boom, down to a third health + corruption

[serene sage]

Wesley you'd better not write another dog biscuit manifesto

Okay

[south garnet]

I can't promise I won't digress again

But for you, I will consider the attempt

[slow spade]

Voice of command has saved 2 elevator moments for me

Both times on the throneside map with the satellite

[serene sage]

Literally just say "nuh uh" to poxbusters

[slow garden]

Voice of Command, aka 'I must save the overextended ogryn' button

[slow spade]

You already know what happened

[slow garden]

My favorite

[slow spade]

Indeed, Voice of Command moment

[atomic zephyr]

has anyone ever written a "just as the founding fathers inteded" copypasta for darktide

[slow garden]

If they havent, that duty falls to us

[slow spade]

I think someone made one for the Skitarii Arquebus

But not for darktide yet

[atomic zephyr]

nah we need a darktide one

[slow garden]

Our community is of lesser power without one such copypasta

We need one, immediately.

[serene sage]

What's the original

[slow garden]

Prob get in trouble if I posted it in its entirity

Just google 'just as the founding fathers intended copypasta'

[slow spade]

Voice of Command + Born Leader is surprisingly decent

[slow garden]

Toughness on kill from plasgun + Charismatic and the talent that gives your team-mates a % of your toughness regenerated is good too

[slow spade]

With 230+50 toughness, the 50+ (15% of my toughness) basically minimizes ally damage

[slow garden]

You become a blue bar battery for your team

Only downside is that the ogryn will still get hit by a net because he overextended

[slow spade]

Even the most absolutely braindead ally can't sandbag a mission hard enough

Had a game where a Vet fully died 5 times

"Look at you making sheo sweat" -local Ogryn after seeing his 5th death

[atomic zephyr]

im writing the copypasta rn

[slow garden]

Truly amazing

I own a Mk 2 Boltor for home defense

Just as the Emperor intended

[slow spade]

Emperor bless your words

[atomic zephyr]

what's a common reason to miss a shot

[slow garden]

Leg cramp

[ancient path]

im bad.

[atomic zephyr]

because revolvers arent smoothbore

okay that works

oh wait the vet complains about having a hangover

i'll use that

[slow garden]

Hell yes, perfect

[ancient path]

sun was in my eye.

[serene sage]

I'd rather die before I give a single piece of toughness handouts to those Emperor hating, welfare munching, good for nothing, ammo vacuuming, braincell sharing teammates. This is the Imperium of Man, damn it, not some hippie communist craphole. Men die, men cry, men lose toughness, men gain toughness, men give birth in Atoma battlefields, not some pillow hugging, dick tugging weirdoes that huddle behind covers sharing toughness. (UwU just in case)

[slow garden]

The only solution to this dark miserable future is to get shitfaced

The enemy cannot damage your team-mates if he is dead

Take your Ogryn nuke nade build... Today.

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-party-gif-27273801

[atomic zephyr]

Own a Helbore for home defense, since that's what the Emperor intended. Four scabs break into my hab-block. "What the Hel?" As I grab my flak armor and Helbore. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my boltgun on the second man, miss him entirely because of the weapon sway and nail the neighbors pox-hound. I have to resort to the Kickback mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "For the Throne!" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off Chimera alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified heretic.He Bleeds out waiting on the arbites to arrive since Helbore bayonet has ridiculously high damage, Just as the Emperor intended.

[serene sage]

Change revolver to bolter and it's perfect imo

[idle pecan]

is this good?

[serene sage]

Just cause bolt is more iconic

[atomic zephyr]

nah you cant quickdraw a boltgun

...true.

[slow garden]

It's okay, he activated Exe Stance.

[atomic zephyr]

yeah fuck it ill swap it to boltgun

[serene sage]

Turret mounted bolter?

[slow garden]

And whipped it out instantly

Just as the Emperor intended.

[serene sage]

To keep it within vet arsenal?

Quickdraw plasma

Turret bolter

[atomic zephyr]

i felt the kickback was better for the cannon at the top of the stairs

[serene sage]

🤔

Well it's your work after all

[slow garden]

It does obliterate everything in the immediate area

I support this

[serene sage]

Good shit regardless

[atomic zephyr]

i encourage variations

[slow garden]

Perfect for nailing the neighbors poxhound

[atomic zephyr]

MISS BECAUSE OF THE WEAPON SWAY

[slow garden]

You have made us a stronger community lad

Aha, perfect

[nimble sentinel]

block efficiency to unyielding, take a swing to what tho?

[idle pecan]

i was thinking of burning that gun to get crucian roulette but i was wanting to know if it was good

[atomic zephyr]

idk how good crucian roulette is on HHs

[serene sage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcFpbAdbnnU

[tight dragon]

god bless

not perfect but i only had a decent mk III

[atomic zephyr]

beautiful

[serene sage]

not perfect
bruh

perfect distribution
perfect perks
perfect blessings

[tight dragon]

that's the old one

[flat pebble]

hey it shook out okay!

[nimble sentinel]

this is a new shovel that ate hours of my life, but I forgor the blessings

[tight dragon]

i mean i'm very happy about it but the bars could've been better

[flat pebble]

people are saying skullcrusher lately, i rock with deci

[dark sorrel]

Thoughts on the new combat blade?

[flat pebble]

this was the second or third one right?

[nimble sentinel]

second

[atomic zephyr]

oh yeah i havent heard people talking about that

seconding, how's the new knife

[topaz lance]

Slug double barrel shotty when?

[dark sorrel]

I want to know too lmao

[flat pebble]

apparently new knife is better at horde clear

[atomic zephyr]

how about single target?

[flat pebble]

you might have better luck asking zealot chat

[atomic zephyr]

fair

[flat pebble]

idk but the first two heavies are sweeps, not sure what they’re like for single target

i think the special->light is still a single target attack

[nimble sentinel]

aight we ball

[flat pebble]

let me know how you like skullcrusher im sitting on my last lock on my mk3 shovel

[south garnet]

damn bro thanks for working on that for me, I can't wait to give it a shot! just send it over and I'll let you know how it goes

[untold mulch]

I need to make a shovel

Next patch

[steep vault]

why next

grind the blessings up first

[untold mulch]

I personally have soft dropped the game as of now

[steep vault]

that's reasonable

[untold mulch]

Rogue Trader is already out, and this patch the only thing interesting to me was the map

[untold mulch]

also laspistol nerfed ROF fucked me

[weary acorn]

Would anyone be willing to give me a short rundown of which shotguns are optimal?

Gotcha

Im struggling to find a ranged weapon I click with any suggestions?

[untold mulch]

Playstyle?

[weary acorn]

Support build focusing around shout

[atomic zephyr]

plasma

[flat pebble]

how’s the combat? the pc gamer journo who covered it had nothing but gripes

[slow garden]

Be like me, use plasgun

Ignore all other weapons

VHOOP heretics out of physical existance

[atomic zephyr]

i use a laspistol with shout but its definitely suboptimal

[untold mulch]

Still downloading, but I personally have heard is great

Maybe is personal opinion, Journos are notoriously shit

I don't trust a single one

[weary acorn]

I'd like a gun that can handle most enemies I don't need it to handle the best

[wanton dawn]

Oh, am lvl 1000. Guess I play too much

[flat pebble]

someone pointed out in the comments they chose the highest skill cap class lol i have my thoughts about the usefulness of the article

[weary acorn]

Basically a good all rounder

[untold mulch]

MAYBE THATS THAT

I avoid journo's like that because more often than not

[brittle falcon]

What guns have you tried?

[untold mulch]

they are pretty shit

[flat pebble]

highest skill cap class in a owlcat game is high as fuck

play owlcat games before?

[untold mulch]

I assume is the appeal, is very lots of reading

[weary acorn]

Collumus, recon 6, heavy lazy ( the new one) all shotguns

[charred scarab]

anybody tried Volatile now that Plasma charge rate is fixed? does it work like Warp Flurry to reduce total heat cost?

[untold mulch]

Avoid Recon

At all cost

[brittle falcon]

Try bolt gun, plasma, the other autoguns.

[flat pebble]

reminds me of the swarm guy boss fight in the second pathfinder game

[wanton dawn]

Well, now I am not sure if charge is even useful anymore

[weary acorn]

Tyvm I'll try em

[wanton dawn]

I need to check that

[brittle falcon]

I’m biased towards plasma. Try that.

[charred scarab]

not for charging, for firing uncharged faster and costing less heat

[flat pebble]

wasn’t symphony of war the fire emblems-like?

[wanton dawn]

Ah yes, it still improve attack speed

Not heat per shot though

[eternal sable]

you guys know about https://maelstroom.net/ ?

select flash missions only and difficulty damnation

[nocturne mulch]

Has anyone managed to get a decent bayonet build now that the bug is fixed?

[flat pebble]

idk i get way more fire emblem sacred stones out of symphony of war

[nocturne mulch]

I miss helbore 100% melee

[flat pebble]

except no overworld map movement

[flat pebble]

you can still do this

[sleek cairn]

@formal lake did we dethrone caxe2 yet

[nocturne mulch]

Can still 1 shot the specials

[terse idol]

Don't you gotta build a liiittle for it to one shot?

[nocturne mulch]

But without limbsplitter it just tickles crushers

[terse idol]

What do you need?

Oh yeah Limb spitter

[flat pebble]

i mean ya lol

it was already like 8 stabs with limbsplitter bug tho

[terse idol]

I mean it "tickles" them as you can like 2 shot headshot them

Or 3 shot~

You do have to focus head

[flat pebble]

guys we’re talking about bayonet lol

[nocturne mulch]

And they stopped the bleed from stacking onslaught which also helped with crushers

[terse idol]

Oh

[carmine cradle]

the game put my in the wrong in game vc?????

[wanton dawn]

Don't think you can quite reach OS on mutie without crit on bayonet now

[carmine cradle]

like my friend who im in a call with can hear them talking in game

but i cant????

[terse idol]

thought we were speaking of mk3 shovel

[nocturne mulch]

Ill do a vid

[carmine cradle]

how fix

[terse idol]

waa

[nocturne mulch]

You still can

[wanton dawn]

Well, with mark and charged bayonnet yes

[nocturne mulch]

Without makr

And normal stab

[south garnet]

Alt f4 and rejoin, unironically

[nocturne mulch]

Has to be weakspot hit though

[untold mulch]

WARP CONNECTION IS SPOTTY, PLEASE WAIT

[flat pebble]

people always take this as some runescape tier trolling i can tell you’ve experienced it based on your phrasing

[nocturne mulch]

Guess I just have to shoot vs crushers

[carmine cradle]

i hope this works

im trusting you

[south garnet]

Big mistake, but it should work nonetheless

[flat pebble]

watch their mind be blown

and now they realize they’ve had this option the whole time

[sleek cairn]

maybe the new guns are good

[carmine cradle]

they need to fix all the bugs with the in game vc

[flint garden]

new fire is so fcked

[carmine cradle]

now pressing v doesnt even register my mic

[flat pebble]

my fav new gun is the mark 3 shovel

[south garnet]

Yea I will honestly do it every 3-4 matches of continuous play just to stem the tide of memory leaks lmao

[flat pebble]

it’s gotten bad what’s up with that

i used to never have them

[carmine cradle]

and i still cant hear them

[flat pebble]

rip

[untold mulch]

I finally got one

[flat pebble]

at least now you know how to fix OOB shit

[south garnet]

No idea, for me they used to be really bad and went away for a month or two, now they're back again

[untold mulch]

The Spaguetti code is breaking

[sleek cairn]

i was hoping this patch would dethrone some guns, guess not

[untold mulch]

I was hoping it threw a lifeboat to Recon

[south garnet]

Yea the duct tape came loose, and the chewed gum they used to repair it is getting stale

[random goblet]

vet bros, hadron came in clutch and gave me both blessings I wanted, what perks are best these days for the mk 6 power sword?

[sleek cairn]

hey we can do it an indirect way. if we nerf columnus/plasma/revolver, it all works out

they tried to buff graia right

[south garnet]

Bummer, then idk what the issue is if your friend can hear them, does YOUR voice work?

Maybe voice is muted

[junior needle]

Just as a heads up, cycler and either brutal or sunder are the best blessings currently.

I'd get rid of crit damage and keep your second blessing slot open for change

[sleek cairn]

how was Revolver's hand cannon nerf? we get 10% rending easier now but

[random goblet]

hmm, I dont have BM sadly

[gusty sonnet]

it's virtually the same

[sleek cairn]

alright nice

[random goblet]

guess its time to sink some plasteel lol

[sleek cairn]

revolver king forever, no need for anything else in life

[slow spade]

Revolver needs a buff now

Perhaps +40% rending 🤔

[serene sage]

Bolter died for less 😔

Yes but it was essentially a triple nerf at patch 13

All significant

For the record it's still fine, I use it.

I'm just saying

[south garnet]

look when I gotta deliver a dump I gotta DUMP and it better be a satisfying one or what's the point

tried the flamer again recently and it feels... pretty bad tbh, even with a regular horde. Which normally I would be OK with its efficacy, but the ammo economy on it is absolute trash. Apparently the new meta is just spamming LMB to build up juuuuust enough stacks to kill trash mobs, which is absolutely NOT the way I want to use a flamethrower

I assume it's been 'balanced' around chastise, which is the lamest shit

not chastise, I love chastise

the balancing a weapon based almost exclusively on it is shit though

[gusty sonnet]

wasnt chastise combo fixed too?

[south garnet]

it still works on ranged, I don't know if it works on stacks though. If not, then I definitely see why barely anyone runs flamer anymore

shit range, shit ttk, shit ammo, shit wield time, shit maneuverability

[slow spade]

My brother tried to say flamer was good

[gusty sonnet]

Yeah ... If you want a waveclear alternative, there's still flechette lawbringer and kantrael

[slow spade]

He doesn't even have a Zealot...

[serene sage]

Virgin flamer vs chad purg staff

[slow spade]

I have a lvl 30 Zealot...

[serene sage]

And purg isn't even meta

[slow spade]

He's braindead

[south garnet]

lmao reeses in pieces

[serene sage]

My condolences

[slow spade]

Such is life

[serene sage]

Older or younger

[slow spade]

Younger

[gusty sonnet]

Purg is actually okay to counter ragers with lmb spam

[slow spade]

He has 500 hours on Psyker

[serene sage]

And you play Vet?

[slow spade]

Yet is convinced flamer is good 🤔

[south garnet]

if it staggers that's somewhat helpful

[slow spade]

Yeah

[serene sage]

Honestly having a bro sounds cool

😔

[gusty sonnet]

Yeah it staggers them

[slow spade]

But I have a lvl 30 Ogryn and Zealot for hateful reasons

[gusty sonnet]

I'd rather run trauma though

[slow spade]

He's a min/max player AKA I can trust him to not die

[lost portal]

Don’t even M1, just incinerate them with M2

[slow spade]

Its very comfy to have a player that genuinely wants to win

[south garnet]

yea blaze trauma, vent and whatever the elite kill burn stacks is called

[kind scarab]

Flamer is good for wasting ammo, and making it hard for people to see what they're shooting

[south garnet]

which I always confuse with the much less useful wildfire

[kind scarab]

It's a smoke that does more damage than a smoke

[lost portal]

Perilous combustion

[kind scarab]

And half the utility

[slow spade]

Indeed, I just ignored him as he doesn't have a lvl 1 Zealot lol

[serene sage]

I have friends but none of them want to be try hards in vidya

And I'm sweaty af

It's sad

[gusty sonnet]

If you have someone in front, I guess? But lmb allows to stagger ragers and prevent nasty damage to the frontliner

[slow spade]

Yeah I'll never get why people will be like "man this part is hard better stop :)"

[wanton dawn]

I do

[south garnet]

to be blunt, flamethrower feels almost as emasculating as chucking smoke grenades

[serene sage]

do it for a sense of pride and accomplishment, but, like, a little unironically :3

[slow spade]

My brother got stuck on a mod in Terraria and said "learn how to play Calamity, this boss is kicking my ass" truly the intended way for players to get into Calamity UwU

[serene sage]

[carmine cradle]

i have changed literally 0 settings since the last time it worked

[lost portal]

Yeah, if you need to get them off M1 but if you have the space to do so, M2 can and will stunlock them.

[south garnet]

bizarre how OP it used to be compared to what state it's in now

[kind scarab]

Clearly the correct way to play a hard game, is to ask the real gamers to play it for you

[carmine cradle]

flame STAFF goes hard tho

[kind scarab]

Flame staff works though, cause of all the warp bonuses

[slow spade]

To be fair, we ended up cheesing the boss by making an invincibility build and having stand inside the boss so it couldn't do anything

[kind scarab]

Not to mention like a third of your tree spreads and helps the flame effects do more

[serene sage]

to be fair, for games that you replay a lot, watching a good player playing it once is very valuable.

[carmine cradle]

well and the whole never needs to reload thing

[slow spade]

Yeah purg staff is cracked

[serene sage]

can you not use "to be fair" like I just did?

please and thank you

[south garnet]

I've read people say that there's some plugin that connects to the voice server where sometimes something fucks up and either doesn't connect you at all or connects you to the wrong one, which is why I figured reconnecting would fix it - but maybe since you'd already joined, it just reconnected to the last voice server you were in thinking it's the correct one instead of querying the right one associated to its respective match/server

[sleek cairn]

oh u mean those solo auric maelstrom vids on vet?

[kind scarab]

To be fair, lots of people do that

[slow spade]

Idk why people say its not "meta" when it clearly can handle far more than other staffs

[serene sage]

to be fair, you should stop

[kind scarab]

To be fair, that's not very fair

[slow spade]

Brb sending a DMCA and a copyright strike for using "to be fair"

[carmine cradle]

it happens regularly where the game will jsut decide to not pick up my voice at all

[south garnet]

to be unfair

[lost portal]

Because it sucks hot and steamy ass vs anything wearing armor + piss range

[carmine cradle]

like it doesnt even register the button

and it ONLY happens with darktide

ive never had this problem in any other game

[serene sage]

well no, cause solo is a different game (kinda) compared to normal game.
most of the solos ive seen involve a lot of running

[nimble sentinel]

aight I can FINALLY take my new shovel out to damnation

[carmine cradle]

so i know its not something on my end

[slow spade]

Spoken like someone that hasn't used a purg staff

[nimble sentinel]

wouldn't it suck if I did that and hated it?

[south garnet]

that's what my mk 4 toothpick is for

[sand stag]

Am I the only wild animal that runs around with only the bayonet and only uses their holy lasgun ammo on crushers or bosses?

[sleek cairn]

there are true kill solos tho

[south garnet]

except the range, for the range I just spit in their direction

[kind scarab]

Yes

[lost portal]

Motherfucker I main the damn thing I know what I’m talking about.

[slow spade]

Honestly its just people parroting "purg staff sucks vs armor" as if armor has ever been an issue for psykers

[dreamy scaffold]

those big ‘ol crushers always get food stuck in their teeth

[dreamy scaffold]

true

[south garnet]

yea this I have no idea, I haven't really had issues with voice on DT tbh

[serene sage]

I mean the kill solos, too
I've seen the true solo zealot no "cheese" run that lasts like 50 mins, nearly half of which is kiting horde, which, don't get me wrong, takes a lot of skills

but it's not the same game

[slow spade]

My condolences

[kind scarab]

See, I usually rock purge + BB. So even if it is a crusher. It's head is likely to pop when I'm not even paying attention. Or after I switch to melee.

[lost portal]

Same here

[carmine cradle]

and its ONLY dt

[nimble sentinel]

Sorry Psykers, looks like you're in the wrong channel. https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046914150363844779 is over there by the latrines

[carmine cradle]

which is super weird

and its not a mod because my game is currently unmodded

[serene sage]

i dont :3

[dreamy scaffold]

frr, dont get squished by the latrine duty ogryn on your way there

[sleek cairn]

you're right it's not the same game. But I take advice in this chat from the perspective of ppl who can perform a true kill solo auric maelstrom on vet.

If they can't, im not sure if they should be giving mathematical advice either.

[slow spade]

Lol my brother stopped doing that build because pugs couldn't handle gunners and he couldn't stand it

He swapped to assail so he could use it to close in

Was funny hearing him

[dreamy scaffold]

id play solo sedition to look at the map

thats about it

[kind scarab]

That's why you grab reflect on your force sword and just pretend you're an ogryn that hasn't hit puberty yet

[sleek cairn]

The worst thing u can do in vet chat, is take advice from someone who cannot solo auric maelstrom. they just spew bullshit lol

[kind scarab]

[slow spade]

Yeah I'd melt in true Solo but I use almost every team buff under the sun for a reason

[sleek cairn]

the misinformation gets crazy. like that dude who kept insisting ps6 was trash

[slow spade]

He got a Deflector Deimos and hasn't stopped using it for months now

[serene sage]

I'd solo you, son. Come outside 😠

[south garnet]

fatshark, where is my multiclassing? I'm ready to take my ogryn with nuke and nade regen and shout fire at heretics in between 1HKO'ing bosses with my hammer

[gusty sonnet]

bruh moment

[dreamy scaffold]

also did they change the way the difficulties ramp or or nah, i feel like the game got more chaotic post new map drop

[serene sage]

the ogryn ate it

[sleek cairn]

he lives rent free in my head, i can't wrap my head around that argument

[kind scarab]

Bullshit is measured in practicality as well sometimes. What works for them, might not work for everyone.

[carmine cradle]

@south garnet sometimes i have to reset my game multiple times, again changin nothing, to get my mic to work in game

[slow spade]

"Yes" lower difficulties are far more relaxed now but high difficulties are the same

[carmine cradle]

and by reset i mean close and open

[kind scarab]

(let alone, sometimes FS will change shit without anyone realising)

[serene sage]

ironically though things that for Azreal might not work for everyone

[dreamy scaffold]

because i remember the 3rd difficulty being much more calm than it is

[slow spade]

I remember when my friend showed his sharpshoot build with Exhilerating Takedown in Patch 13

[gusty sonnet]

No, it's probably just people coming back to the game, thus the average quality of player decreased

[slow spade]

Fucking discord

[sleek cairn]

hes the only one posting but he isnt the only one doing it

[serene sage]

please stop, i need it working

[kind scarab]

Well yeah, that's cause the average person is dogshiet

[lost portal]

Back during the health overhaul they changed the way the director worked, intending to reduce the number of elites since most of them got MASSIVE health increases. They fucked up something and ended up almost doubling the spawns.

[slow spade]

Yeah they made it ramp slower on the lower difficulties

[south garnet]

I guess hard to say without detailed step-by-step root cause analysis, but DT has no shortage or weird fucked up shit that happens for no reason or bizarre interactions with other programs running in the background, even stuff it's supposed to run happily with like steam overlay

[dreamy scaffold]

i played a reg 3 difficulty game and jt was just “hordes hordes hordes specialist hordes hordes hordes”

[slow spade]

UwU

[kind scarab]

You can't expect someone with two left hands to aim and walk as well as someone who's got hand-eye coordination locked down

[slow spade]

No they unironically made it easier on lower difficulties

Its in the patch notes

[serene sage]

it feels like the upper diffs is also more chill

[south garnet]

If you have a mic-specific program like a logitech manager or something, make sure that program isn't soft-accessing the device and "occupying" it

[slow spade]

Daemonhosts don't even spawn in the lowest levels

[carmine cradle]

my microphone is registering, but my friend cant hear me in game

[dreamy scaffold]

yeah they dont anymore rarely

[slow spade]

Tbh I don't get the daemonhost change

[south garnet]

(but this wouldn't explain your issue in all likelihood since you can't hear the people either - it sounds like a fatshark server thing)

[lost portal]

Also the director is different between maps and the new ones are particularly fucked. Carnival is hard due to layout and Methhouse has issues with the game forgetting to put the “Shot” in shotgunner wave.

[serene sage]

the amount of elites/specs are lower, right? or am I crazy

[slow spade]

Like they need to learn

[dreamy scaffold]

people complained that jt would body them

[serene sage]

I feel like there isn't enough to shoot

sometimes

[lost portal]

Way higher

[slow spade]

They lowered its kill count to 1 though. Should be fine with that

[serene sage]

okay im not crazy right. please tell me im not crazy =.=

[slow spade]

Lol

[serene sage]

nuh uh

[dreamy scaffold]

lmao

[slow spade]

Then does default dances on their corpse

[dreamy scaffold]

so many people would complain

[flat pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-gif-5376378

the demonhost after you get revived

[dreamy scaffold]

i just dont, no advantage or booster when doing so

[rancid echo]

the ogryns are talking about random stuff but i need some shovel advice... what should I change on this

[serene sage]

what armor type is DH anyway

[slow spade]

I had a zealot purposely pull one be ause it was in a REALLY bad spot

It happens

[slow spade]

Unyielding

[dreamy scaffold]

just +1 to the kill counter atp

[serene sage]

unyeilding?

[south garnet]

DH should be unchained on damnation - no kill limit

I want an actual scary DH

[serene sage]

please answer after i ask the question, not before, thanks

[slow spade]

To be fair, we killed it with minimal damage so clearly lnew what they were doing

[slow spade]

UwU

[thick hare]

came across a lv918 vet running this, thoughts?

[flat pebble]

the way we would all get trolled every match

[serene sage]

Normal stuff?

[dreamy scaffold]

so many games would be instant losses💀

[formal lake]

no grenade regen

[weary acorn]

Is the Graia Mk VIII any good?

[lost portal]

All of the bosses are unyielding except the Karnak twins. Which wears carapace and flak, leading to some interesting results when hit with thunder hammers.

[sleek cairn]

I FOUND HIM. the Power sword 6 is "Low tier" guy

[flat pebble]

yeah seems like a normalish exe bolter build

[south garnet]

probably yea, but it would make fighting around them much more tense for players that actually cared and weren't 100% confident they could handle it

[dreamy scaffold]

the karnak twins are bosses? i havent seen any recent patch notes since carnival came out?

[serene sage]

One or two points are weird but who cares tbh

[cinder wadi]

Anyone got a comissar build (with the old las pistol)?

[serene sage]

Team highlights should be Precision Strike instead

[dreamy scaffold]

now i gotta see that

[thick hare]

so its still better not taking keystones? or because of bolter?

[lost portal]

I mean he clearly knows what he’s doin with it so I’m not about to question it.

[flat pebble]

i kinda like it because leaving after 2 makes them tricky minxes like they are in some of the fiction

[serene sage]

Maybe nade regen over improving med kits

[dreamy scaffold]

they looked sick in the cinematic

[flat pebble]

i’d do this as well, most pubs need the help from shredders

[sleek cairn]

that's what i call the "take all the dmg" build

[serene sage]

I mean if the dude is doing fine himself I don't hate the team utilities

[gusty sonnet]

Im not sure going for ping will not net better breakpoints like 80% of the tiùe

[lost portal]

They’re random monster spawns. But they don’t spawn at the same time as their audio queue. Leading to funny shit like this.

[flat pebble]

i’d chalk it up to personal preference

[thick hare]

he had top dmg and was doing really good in general so i guess so

[serene sage]

Preferences, you can do either

[sleek cairn]

whenever i see a tree with no keystones, i imagine he wants to kill the boss in 0.5 seconds.

[dreamy scaffold]

enginseer x-8? new voice?

[flat pebble]

yeah the mechanics are key

[south garnet]

fair, but does the lore also include that they're depressing weirdos who just lay there on the floor talking to themselves like losers just begging to have you huck a rock at them like in the game?

[lost portal]

New TILF yeah

[dreamy scaffold]

nicee

[thick hare]

can someone send a plasma ps6 build my way

[dreamy scaffold]

he sounds sick asf

[thick hare]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-please-beg-gif-11172192

[dreamy scaffold]

love a little mechanicus stuff

[sleek cairn]

take none of the nodes. u are done. ps6 build

[serene sage]

I mean Bolter topping damage is not that hard, it depends more on teammates being good or not imo.
Bad teammates= you do a lot of damage
Good teammates= more equal share

But that's common sense ig

[south garnet]

DHs are practically begging to be bullied

[dreamy scaffold]

unless your team are genuine bots and you cant solo

[south garnet]

it's not my fault I shoulder check them sometimes walking past, instinct

[flat pebble]

maybe newer hosts or hosts taken over by strong psykers who can semi resist

the two in eisenhorn i’ve seen so far just pretended to be humans and blended in

[dreamy scaffold]

charubael moment

[gusty sonnet]

speaking of DH do you guys too no longer have the DH health bar?

[lost portal]

I’ve never screamed louder in my life then when trying to clutch up and then this asshole comes out Fromm around a corner at Mach fuck and puts his sword up my ass in 2 frames.

[thick hare]

i mean ye difference wasnt too big, i was testing out the gunlugger ogryn for the first time so my dmg sucked as i am both not used to the playstyle and my gear sucks a bit as i just made it with like 300k ordos or so

[sleek cairn]

yes because this channel eats DH for breakfast. What health bar? hes dead

they simply glance at the DH and it runs away

[flat pebble]

doesn’t seem to appear on the pure lights out modifier

[dreamy scaffold]

pov: you get your eggs unscrambled

[flat pebble]

the bar that is

[empty creek]

U forget the rest of the conversation, it ended on the agreement that PS is best offensive choice & Dclaw is best defensive choice

unless if im misremembering but that’s how i currently think

[sleek cairn]

U're still alive!!

[flat pebble]

that’s one of the takes of all time

[sleek cairn]

u stirred up a shitstorm of a discussion my man

[empty creek]

big time yeah, lol

[thick hare]

what dh? i see none in any of my games

[serene sage]

I also play Bolter. Here's my old build and some old match history from last patch. It's a good gun. I love it. This patch I feel much stronger. The tree is insane.
https://imgur.com/a/6Hh3LAH

[dreamy scaffold]

wow

he was just like honk mimimimimi- Bonk

[south garnet]

yea look at this skinny little dork! can't even take a single lump, what a wimp!

[thick hare]

sadly cant onetap plague ogryn with zealot bonk build anymore

[south garnet]

get some real pants pal!

[thick hare]

after the perfectionist backstab dmg nerf

[dreamy scaffold]

point and laugh!

[thick hare]

well, i might be able to if i add in desperation (out of stam 20% dmg boost) but that takes away so much survivability to fit in points

[sleek cairn]

have u given psword6 a second thought tho

is it a top tier weapon yet

this chat tried very hard to tell u it was a capable weapon

[south garnet]

if I'm able to play tonight I'm going to run 3x3 stam curios and a full grenadier build

with a shovel and a cowboy gun

[empty creek]

im glad U asked BC i did, i got level 4 PC on 1 & was having some fun but ultimately still prefer the space & safety dclaw gives me

[serene sage]

Take smoke or you're a pussy

[empty creek]

the powerswords aren’t hot garbage like i proclaimed tho lol

[thick hare]

i cant seem to get a build for plasma + ps6 from anyone, whenever i ask about it nobody cares

idk the important nodes to take in vet tree outside of nade regen so

it'll be extremely scuffed if i make one myself

[sleek cairn]

Yes! that's what i wanna hear! i dont even use psword myself but im happy.

[south garnet]

keeping your team completely blind the entire match

[sleek cairn]

u no longer live rent free in my head. psword is no longer hot garbage

all is well

[serene sage]

That weapon combo I really think you can get away with literally anything semi sensible

And I mean it

[hollow ibex]

True

[empty creek]

the dclaw stabs R pretty helpful but leave U open especially w/ the slowdown so the damage output doesn’t help, especially when i can just parry the crusher overheads w/o losing stamina if i pay attention then drop a drag

[thick hare]

[empty creek]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-25-2016/TtaPZc.gif

[sleek cairn]

its why i told him "pick none of the nodes"

[dreamy scaffold]

i run a chainsword because funny

[copper pine]

Plasma and power sword are probably the least dependent on your talent tree, so do whatever and it will probably work out fine.

[dreamy scaffold]

funny funny bleeds crusher to death in 4 seconds

[empty creek]

dude the chainswords feel infinitely better w/ the new update

[dreamy scaffold]

chainswords felt wimpy on launch lmao

[calm prairie]

ya balloon swords lol

[empty creek]

the special alt no longer drags on every enemy unless if it’s an overhead, it only sticks when U hit specials & above which is a great QOL change

[thick hare]

ye same with zeal evis/chaxe, being able to cancel bite is amazing

[empty creek]

i fucking know right

very happy they changed it

[tiny summit]

Dodge canceling out of my chainaxe rev bleeds a crusher to half hp

[south garnet]

um no infinitely better would be u can dodge out of specials infinitely but you can only do it once because then ur out of the special so that's only one times better not infinitely better so...

[dreamy scaffold]

it was like there wasnt a molecular cut chain in it, just a metal stick you bashed scabs with

[south garnet]

:^)

[empty creek]

im not reading this i see um no & know it’s not importnat

i win U lose go away foolish baby

[lost portal]

BEHOLD! The DETRIMENT TO MY TEAM build!

[south garnet]

[serene sage]

I would say this is safe and reasonable, swap stuff out as needed

[plucky cosmos]

why are people complaining about highlighted targets

[dreamy isle]

not getting hitregs when aiming, is that normal?

[serene sage]

yep

[south garnet]

based

[serene sage]

server ran by a hamster

[thick hare]

[serene sage]

sometimes it gets tired and take a break

so you don't get hit reg

[sleek cairn]

who

[empty creek]

little 70 year old Taiwanese man on a bike powering the servers

let him drink

stop playing so much

[lost portal]

We need to run a game of this build only with the added rule of you need to throw your grenades off cooldown.

[south garnet]

honestly put this on the gameslantern site, I want to see how many votes it gets

[sleek cairn]

Who is complaining about marked targets, give me their game id

[lost portal]

While also running shotguns so nobody can do shit against gunners

[plucky cosmos]

playing with focus target with dmg inc for the whole team and they starting complaining about it

[thick hare]

@south garnetalso have this btw, but its jank actually doing it, need to land headshot for some reason even tho captain has less hp then other bosses (my hammer has flak + unyield with thrust 4 but only 60% pen so that might be why)

[lost portal]

HOLY SHIT

What a thumbnail

[empty creek]

make a mod so that whenever somebody marks a target, ur entire screen is obscured but the outline till it dies

[thick hare]

ikr

[south garnet]

WOO

[sleek cairn]

did u bind mark to LMB

[lost portal]

On it captain

[south garnet]

please include knife in the build

[plucky cosmos]

nope its on mouse wheel

[sleek cairn]

if u didn't bind your mark to lmb yet, do so now. and then rejoin their game. Show them something to complain about

[pure chasm]

i put my mark on right click instead

[plucky cosmos]

yeah nah i watched them getting mauled by a monstrosity and left

[pure chasm]

so now when i ads at something i get to ping it first

[plucky cosmos]

1 of them died but idk if they are still kicking

[sleek cairn]

dunno why ppl would complain about marking

it's actually more annoying if u start making a beat with ur mark hotkey

than spamming it

u can't even hear their mics anymore

[south garnet]

"is that... funkytown?"

[stone birch]

WOOOOOO got handcannon 4 as a blessing

[sleek cairn]

awesome, that's a game changer

now u can 2 shot crushers instead of 2 shotting them

[blazing veldt]

great! now do better!

[south garnet]

Do Better, Valid Vet

[stone birch]

its on a fanning revolver, so it at least goes a bit further than average.

[serene sage]

You on NA?

[south garnet]

if that's north america than yes

if narcotics anonymous, also yes

[sharp ember]

you have inspired me to start tagging to the beat of the terminator 2 theme

[untold mulch]

Blessed Hammer

[sleek cairn]

genius

[serene sage]

I thought you're Briish for some reason

[south garnet]

ew no

my sponsor is from kent though, and he sounds like it too

[serene sage]

I make a beat with my tag on DHs

Is that bad

I thought it's funny

[south garnet]

massive cokehead

[serene sage]

[sleek cairn]

the terminator 2 theme actually fits the sound effect

missing bit of a clank but it checks out

[south garnet]

"work" almost over, T minus one hour til I find out whether I'll have time to play tonight or whether I'll have to spend time with my STUPID family always hanging around and look at my FEMALE wife and my FAT son

[thick hare]

btw i assume you arent taking any rending and going right side at the start because both of those weapons dont really need them?

[serene sage]

Yee

[wanton dawn]

alright, imma try a bayonet build now

[serene sage]

I mean you can if you really want to, but it's not that useful

Plasma doesn't need rending

Afaik there isn't a reason to get it on PS6 either

[sleek cairn]

would the rend help your light attacks?

[serene sage]

I won't lie, I'm not sure. I don't run it personally and never noticed a lack in damage regardless.

[raven crane]

What's this about bayonet builds?

[wanton dawn]

[raven crane]

AND I MISSED IT!?

[south garnet]

to the uninitiated, recommending BM on PS6 sounds like someone frustrated with sony

[sharp ember]

BM still works at least right

[thick hare]

3x toughness and standart hp toughness + flex perks for curios?

[steep vault]

stunning ragers and maulers is still good

[tiny summit]

30k dmg to monstrosities with only bayonet

[devout atlas]

I heard the new revy isn't half bad on Vet, any build + what perks/blessings I should look for?

[raven crane]

[sleek cairn]

unironically i find myself running a +3 stam curio more often.

[sharp ember]

dew it

[sleek cairn]

i just really really like stamina.

[devout atlas]

This was just all damage perks right?

[nimble sentinel]

aight so I just had my first run with the MK 3 shovel

[sleek cairn]

focus too

[nimble sentinel]

y'all weren't kidding it sucks at hordes

[devout atlas]

I have a similar build with a boltgun but boltgun was a bit wack

[nimble sentinel]

but dat carapace damage

[devout atlas]

what should I go for with the agri revy then?

[south garnet]

does it? I haven't had any issues with it at all, huh

[nimble sentinel]

at least compared to stock shovel, slow and clunky and low damage

I might need to do some adjusting

[south garnet]

I gotcha

I know the moveset is awkward to some

As a separate thing to note

[nimble sentinel]

but the speed I killed crushers and maulers and ragers

worth

[alpine pebble]

fellas vets i need some advice

i want to change the plus 10 ranged damage
whats better plus 25 vs flak or plus 10 vs elites?

[south garnet]

relative to horizontal vanguards over and over

[devout atlas]

my game crashed twice in a row bruhhh

[sleek cairn]

Check your breakpoints, i dont know ur tree.

It's highly tree dependent whether u use 10 vs elites or 25 flak

[devout atlas]

surgical the goto here or wouldnt crucial or trickshooter be better?

[alpine pebble]

RIGHT

[slim hamlet]

I say standard issue shovel is still king even with a lack of crusher deletion (I have not yet tried the other shovels cause I love the light and heavy swings of the standard issue)

[devout atlas]

standard shovel is good if you're running plasma, but mk3 with the proper setup works better for a lot of other builds

imho

standard shovel is still good though

[sleek cairn]

the difference between 10vs elites or 25 flak on revolver is small enough of an argument to make the tree matter.

[nimble sentinel]

going minecraft on a crusher do be wildin tho

[lost portal]

The lunge still works on the MKIV Catachan right? Currently writing the description for the new and “”””improved”””” detriment to your team build

[nimble sentinel]

how's the MK 7 compare?

[tiny summit]

I'm running the new chainaxe with my helbore for when crushers and maulers get close

[slim hamlet]

Why not all of the above? 😄 and maybe compare if a crit blessing can be replaced with hand cannon as I am now interested for what is more consistent

[lost portal]

And yes, I somehow managed to make it even worse, substantially worse even.

[south garnet]

I would absolutely do crucian over surgical, and WITHOUT QUESTION crucian over trickshooter with the nuvolver, but that's just ime and playstyle

[nimble sentinel]

so begins the new chapter

[south garnet]

I start blasting immediately and do not simmer first

[sudden dome]

why is it every vet i get into a lobby with now has no survivalist, we just got an update, you arent cruched for points, I have it but its not like you changed everyones running move speed

[south garnet]

as compared to the oldvolver, where I would hold my shots until I was about to bust and then make a mess of the place

[terse idol]

Like thr new shovels lights play similar to Ogryn bully club

Takes a while to smack down hordes but they stagger pretty well

[lost portal]

The new knife gets the speed up lunge like the old one right?

[terse idol]

Because survivalist is still OP

[blazing veldt]

Yes

[terse idol]

It really needs to be killed

[sudden dome]

yea I wrote that wrong, they dont have it

[nimble sentinel]

meh, coulda been worse

[blazing veldt]

except push attack isn't strike down anymore

[sudden dome]

Ive been in 5 lobbies today nothing

[terse idol]

Boice

[sleek cairn]

the secret is. i never ran survivalist ever for anything.

[serene sage]

Either

[terse idol]

I unfortunately need survalist for my pgun

[south garnet]

in all likelihood, gravitating to the recreation of prior builds to probe out new areas they can branch into from an existing framework they understand and know more-or-less works as expected

[serene sage]

Cause we are not just ammo bots #vetsrights

[devout atlas]

alright my first roll what should I do oon it

[lost portal]

Knife lunge? Anyone? Does the new one work just like the old one?

[serene sage]

Bolter do want ammo

[sleek cairn]

ogryn literally breathes in survivalist lol

[serene sage]

You can live without but it's real tight

[flint garden]

why does the new revolver have almost no cleave

[tight dragon]

could've been a rashad

[sleek cairn]

i find they complain the most when vets dont run it. I've never seen a Vet complain about others not running survivalist tho

[devout atlas]

ngl I prefer antax, great push attack and special

[tight dragon]

watch it brick in 10 seconds

[tiny summit]

Running w/o survivalist is "maybe you should watch your ammo"

[slim hamlet]

Not full metal jacket but hollow point now

[sleek cairn]

Tell us the brick, we're more interested in the brick

[south garnet]

missing 1 point, bummer. better luck next time

[lost portal]

PLEASE. I’m begging. It’s a yes/no Slower/Faster question.

[sleek cairn]

he didnt swap

[tiny summit]

No BM. Unusable

[devout atlas]

anyone?

[sleek cairn]

all is lost

[tiny summit]

Unyielding/carapace (idk I haven't rolled a good one yet)

[sleek cairn]

unarmoured?

[devout atlas]

what do you want on an agri revy?

[sleek cairn]

rashad supremacy.

[tight dragon]

unluck

might as well just use my ps at this point

[slim hamlet]

Use it and look for more plasteel
Maybe replace unarmoured for crit chance or a preferred armour type when you don’t want to lean on point blank

[tight dragon]

what if the blue blessing is a t3 good perk tho

at least there a chance for it to be usable

[serene sage]

So upgrade to level 4 blessing at blue?

[devout atlas]

why unarmored? shouldn't unarmored help me with sniper 1 taps?

[terse idol]

But why would you risk getting a t3

[gray stone]

wheres sauce of good vet builds? i havent played vet in a fair while and my trees are reset

[terse idol]

When you could have guranteed any 4

🥹

[tight dragon]

because if the T4 is a shit one you're bricked

[terse idol]

I mean you bricked it by upgrading on t3

Because then the 3 can still brick

[devout atlas]

since the tree got reworked pretty recently I'd just ask for a build featuring your preferred range and ability

[terse idol]

At least if you upgrade on 4 you can gurantee any 4

[slim hamlet]

Hit the sniper in the head and if the unarmoured gives you the breakpoint on body shots and you prefer that then sure go with it

[tight dragon]

if i roll t3 BM on PS at blue i'm keeping it

at least i would if i didn't have any good ps

[devout atlas]

easier said than done cross map in the middle of dodging 3 ragers haha

[terse idol]

No but oh man

Well yeah you can just upgrade to 4, swap either out

Dunno why you wanna argue

[astral blade]

Sup fellas

[untold moth]

On the new shovels. Is it intended that attacking after a push with shovel folded does not do the special?

[atomic siren]

what perk should i replace and what would i replace it with?

[sleek cairn]

just watching someone brick an axe, its fun

[astral blade]

How goes it today in darktide

[primal delta]

hey fellas, just got this Lucius from an Emperor's Gift and boosted it with Hadron. What perks should I get?

[astral blade]

Oh boy

[terse idol]

I mean it wouldn't have been that bad

[untold moth]

It seems really clunky and unintuitive. It just does a normal light or heavy and then your weapon goes back to normal. Did they just forget about attack chains after push?

[sleek cairn]

Darktide? have u seen how we talk? This is Path of Exile. im still staring at a tree n debating base items.

[terse idol]

Damn it dude, at least try the adviiiice

[astral blade]

My guy this chat is basically a second home so yes I have seen how we all talk

[ruby fulcrum]

On the mk3 it does?

[serene sage]

Honestly idk why we go so hard on the guy when it's his item

[finite imp]

Holy dumb fuck I just ran into a guy who bound his ping to mouse 1

[tight dragon]

i mean i can try for later sure

[finite imp]

Jesus

[serene sage]

Like that's an obscure as shit tip kek

[finite imp]

That was the most annoying round

[tight dragon]

just that i don't have that many decent weapons yet so i'm content with t3 perks and blessings if they're bis

[untold moth]

Push attack specials.. push into light does not. That’s what I’m saying

[gilded rock]

You must be new here

[finite imp]

Been here since release

[tight dragon]

that was armoury

[devout atlas]

yeah i dont think imma use the new revolver

[untold moth]

No. It doesn’t

[gilded rock]

So lucky then I used to get them every other match

[finite imp]

Jesus christ

I almost just quit from going insane

[serene sage]

Lol I've played since the game dev wasn't born. You're new here.

[gray stone]

those people deserve whatever happens to them when you throw them into the warp on god

[sleek cairn]

Hey that's me. Terminator theme song right?

Dun dun dun dun dun!

get wrecked sunrise

[finite imp]

I've been playing this game since before pong was invented

[dusk idol]

ping to assert dominance

[lost portal]

Does anyone finally have information as to whether the new knife is faster than the old one in terms of moving from point a to point b?

[weary acorn]

how does the graia mark 8 fair against the columnus and agripina?

[ruby fulcrum]

I was just running around with it thus morning. Hit special, push, attack. And it does the sweep instead of strike down special?

[finite imp]

It's more bullets faster but weaker

[untold moth]

You’re probably using push-attack.. that’s a different thing.

[ruby fulcrum]

Oh lmao yeah. I thought that's what you meant

[weary acorn]

so does that leave it up to preference? any issues with ammo economy vs damage?

[untold moth]

No. That’s the purpose of “then”

[finite imp]

The reason the agrippina and Columnus outshine it is time to kill

[untold moth]

Sincerely, just don’t type if you’re going to just add nothing to a conversation..

[finite imp]

You spend more time shooting an opponent you're basically just slowing yourself down

[finite imp]

Don't be an ass

[weary acorn]

okay, does the agripina have huge kickback like the columnus?

[finite imp]

We talking braced or iag

[weary acorn]

the one you can aim down sights

[untold moth]

It’s annoying getting gaslit by people that don’t understand the difference between a push-attack and push into attack

[finite imp]

That's iag. Both have some jumpy recoil patterns but they can be controlled fairly easily with some practice

[terse idol]

No but like ahh, it's sounds like best practice anyways to try to roll a good 4

Than be stuck with a t3

[finite imp]

Then don't engage

[terse idol]

Why roll for any random 3 when you can roll for a BIS t4

[weary acorn]

personal preference?

[terse idol]

Its still random

[finite imp]

If you legitimately believe someone is fucking with you don't talk to them and waste your time.

[terse idol]

Gonna be better than a t3

[flat pebble]

“oh lmao yeah. i thought that’s what you meant” the clarion call of all gaslighters

[idle pecan]

finally got osmething good

[tight dragon]

My logic is higher odds of getting 2/2 perks and blessings even if there's some t3

[finite imp]

I'm an aggripina simp myself but damn I love the Columnus too both have their own utility. The agri is better for killing specials while the Columnus is better for horde clear and suppression

[untold moth]

I’m not going to apologize for correcting someone on game mechanics while highlighting a bug

[tight dragon]

if i reroll blue then i can guarantee a t4 perk and blessing but if they're bad i might as well trash

[finite imp]

Ok

Move on

[tight dragon]

i'm not arguing with the way you do it

[weary acorn]

ty for your insight

[flat pebble]

yeah that’s not the part anyone took umbrage at either

[terse idol]

Ah I dunno chief

[sleek cairn]

did u bind ur lmb to mark yet

[tight dragon]

at least it would be usable

[sleek cairn]

im waiting

[terse idol]

Whatever floats your boat

[finite imp]

Just did meet me in the fucking parking lot

[terse idol]

Cause you're still rolling that 2nd perk anyways

[untold moth]

Well, I’m autistic, so if you’ve got an issue with how I’ve said something, maybe don’t be ableist. Simple as

[sleek cairn]

cmon just embrace it a little

[finite imp]

We're all autistic

[weary acorn]

OH before I forget, the braced versions, how do they fair?

[flat pebble]

im autistic too, you’re actually being ableist to me

[stiff pasture]

What the fuck are y’all at each others throats over this time

[finite imp]

Tone is being lost over text

[idle pecan]

brutal momentum is good on power sword right

[untold moth]

Too late, kiddos, I used the ableist card first.

[sleek cairn]

He was complaining that i played the Terminator theme by binding LMB to mark.

[finite imp]

The usual

[idle pecan]

and what perks should i take

[gray stone]

the rumours about vet chat are real

[tight dragon]

no i understand this part, but if what you rolled on blue is a t3 BIS, for ex t3 BM on a PS and you got a bad perk on green

[quasi glade]

Is this worth?

in Melk

[flat pebble]

unfortunately, no

that stat spread is nice though

[stiff pasture]

It’s ok, but there isn’t really a point when you already have functionally infinite cleave on powered swing

[lofty lintel]

would be using the recon lasguns troll considering how bad they are at the moment??

[idle pecan]

what other perk should i take then?

[flat pebble]

brutal momentum applies first target damage across the first 4 enemies you hit on a powered headshot kill

no take brutal momentum

[stiff pasture]

Power cycler is definitely great

[tight dragon]

i can get behind increasing chances for a second good t4 blessing but then perks are even worse because you're -1 craft

[tight dragon]

but i'll try still see if i get better results

[flat pebble]

you want brutal momentum and power cycler the person giving you the advice doesn’t understand the way damage applies with BM

[lilac jewel]

thinking this is fine as is. only switched out one perk

[finite imp]

I wouldn't bother arguing with Azreal. You'd think he gets paid to do this.

[tight dragon]

oh yeah for that one sure

[lilac jewel]

ammo sucks but you win some you lose some

[stiff pasture]

Oh wait mb, mixed it up with Wrath

[tight dragon]

but i clicked before i read what you said to be completely honest

[finite imp]

Elect brutal momentum for inquisition

[idle pecan]

what perks should i have on power sword

[flat pebble]

is brutal momentum currently an interrogator

[idle pecan]

Crit chance?

[flat pebble]

nooOOOO

[finite imp]

Flak maniac

[dusk idol]

yes

[finite imp]

Bye bye

[dusk idol]

get crit chance

[flat pebble]

S T O P

HALT

[dusk idol]

crit to assert dominance

[finite imp]

Kyo is a good person but he's trolling

[dusk idol]

i'm a good person?

[finite imp]

You're alright m8

[flat pebble]

increasing your chance to crit on functionally every weapon by 1/20 is not worth increasing your damage against the enemy type you hate most at all times by 25%

[weary acorn]

I think I've found the gun for me, braced guns

[quasi glade]

ty

[lofty lintel]

is there any way to make the stamina depleting from deadshot talent better? i run out so fast and my dps just plummets

[finite imp]

If your a big dakka advocate like me brautos are beautiful

[weary acorn]

brautos?

[flat pebble]

you running extra stam?

[stiff pasture]

Braced autos

[finite imp]

Sorry

[lofty lintel]

im not.. i guess thats it

[stiff pasture]

Basically the things that look like Space AKs

[finite imp]

I forget not everyone lives in here

[dusk idol]

if you can, grab focus targets with stam regen

ik you didn't ask tile but i'm lazy

[devout atlas]

played with the worst fucking zealots in my life in auric damn