veteran-class

[south spindle]

I will die on this hill

Its totally uncompetative with the other two at the moment

[woeful junco]

anybody else? I saw some funny shenanigans with limbsplitter on new shovel, is that any good or just a meme

[south spindle]

It was for Hellbore Bayonet mate, which has now been fixed

[hybrid token]

everything is uncompetitive with the agri braced because its batshit crazy broken

[woeful junco]

no, for shovel

[crude wind]

don't use limbsplitter

[south spindle]

Yeah... Limbsplitter was buffing the Bayonet all the time, passively

[crude wind]

Uncanny and Skullbreaker/Decimator/Take a Swing, depending on build

[woeful junco]

I'm not talking about helbore

[south spindle]

Which has now been fixed

Then there is no reason to run Limbshitter

[sharp ember]

Thrust + Uncanny has been serving me well, uncanny stacks increase your spike damage on carapace by like double

[south spindle]

There is no shenannigans revolving around it other than how it used to interact with Bayonet

[crude wind]

Perks are Maniac and Flak/Infested, again depending on build.

[hybrid token]

handcanon was doing the same before lol

[south spindle]

Yep, as was Scattershot and Manstopper

[sharp ember]

I think Uncanny is more reliable than Limbsplitter in a scrap, because LS resets on any strike instead of being a rolling cooldown like I had hoped

[south spindle]

There are probably a few more erroneous examples people just havent picked up on yet

[woeful junco]

it's for a laspistol sharpshooter build

[crude wind]

wait, are you asking perks/blessings for pistol or shovel VII

[sharp ember]

My shovel is within reach of 1shotting crushers and maulers if I put Carapace on it

[woeful junco]

shovel

[south spindle]

I got this badboi the other day for funny Crusher one-shots

[shrewd marlin]

anybody experiencing plasma gun. not playing SFX for the shots?

[crude wind]

lol we have just had the same idea. I've just finished making a laspistol shovel build with exec stance and it's sick

[south spindle]

Few people have reported it yeah mate

[crude wind]

but to answer your question

[woeful junco]

exactly 😄

[shrewd marlin]

thought i was crazy

[south spindle]

Nah, you're not crazy 😄 i imagine its similar to the Ripper firing bug tbh

[woeful junco]

btw send me your build if you don't mind 👀

[sharp ember]

that bug messes me up real bad when i run a ripper

[nimble sentinel]

melk man why must you taunt me

[shrewd marlin]

super excited to use a new build w plasma gun then yeah the sound bugs make me sad

[crude wind]

Maniac + Flak/Infested (test your heavies on poxwalkers, if you cant one shot them with a horizontal heavy, take infested. If you can (because of melee nodes/weakspot nodes etc) then take Flak. Blessings take Uncanny and SkullCrusher for the most consistency, or take a swing if you want to meme a bit. Decimator is fine too

[hybrid token]

plasma bugged out of its mind

feels icky to use

[crude wind]

will do but don't share cause it's going in a video for the weekend 😉

[hybrid token]

i should start recording runs, that seems fun

[crude wind]

always good to watch your games back

[woeful junco]

sure thing

[hybrid token]

then again 90% of them are already in streamer twitch vods so i can just watch those back lol

[sharp ember]

i will not record myself getting mutie tossed into another mutie into 2 poxbursters

[hybrid token]

ye olde mutie volleyball

[sharp ember]

been enjoying smokes a lot strangely

[hybrid token]

smokes arent as bad as everyone thinks, they just dont understand how the game functions

still not great tho

[sharp ember]

amazing for special shooting through the horde prevention and you can't guarantee killing them through it

[brisk sedge]

sniper shooting through them is uh

questionable

[eternal venture]

That happened to me the other day

or well, the mutie tossed me into one burster, which bounced me into another

[sharp ember]

i drop one whenever the team is bogged down bad and CC specials/flamers are incoming

[hybrid token]

sniper vision is programmed differently so im not even sure snipers shooting through them is intentional

[eternal venture]

all during extraction on Consignment Yard

[hybrid token]

smoke should smother fire

then theyd be useful

[brisk sedge]

if they smothered fire and stopped sniper LoS they would be in a lot better place

[eternal venture]

Smokes are interesting because they'll usually force enemies to reposition

[hybrid token]

espcecially this patch lmao

[eternal venture]

which can clump them up into one area for murdering

but they do indeed need love

[sharp ember]

something about them technically always knowing where you are, and they only check for physical barriers when shooting. I guess it lets them pre-position in a shooting stance as you approach

[south spindle]

Ngl, Snipers is the main one

The one thing you would want them for is to stop those little bastards

[hybrid token]

yeah snipers dont actually "Look" at you

they just know where you are

[eternal venture]

imo they should also stumble enemies who run through the smoke

[eternal sable]

this is bricked ?

[south spindle]

Smothering out fires would be a bonus, but really its stopping Snipers that needs to happen to make them competative with other options

[south spindle]

That'd be nice too

[hybrid token]

i mean its not ~terrible~

but its not great

[eternal venture]

Blocking snipers and stumbling enemies are my two main asks for smokes

[crude wind]

salvagable. change block to Maniacs, and then you can choose between wrath and shred for the second blessing

it's one of the few weapons wrath probably okay on cause of the attack arcs

[eternal sable]

what blessing to replace?

[crude wind]

Rev it up

Blood letter is good

[hybrid token]

heres a TRULY Miserable brick, well its not that bad now that BM is better but ehhhhhhhhh

[eternal venture]

Smokes are already a janky Psyker shield without a cooldown, might as well give them the utility of the stun shield too

[autumn wave]

I was scrolling blessings through melks and only just noticed surgical on the revolvers actually changes the blessing icon from a rifle to a pistol

[hybrid token]

unyielding is definately hot garbage on sword

[eternal sable]

😭

[hybrid token]

would put cycler and flak on it now and itd be alright

[eternal sable]

idk if thats usable nowadays

it wasnt before

[hybrid token]

crit is like eh

being 3% under on mobility is rough

[eternal sable]

ive got a bunch of godrolled items just waiting for one day they break the locks

mega copium but

if they ever do i got like 30 gg weps

[versed merlin]

be like chocob

use them regardless

[hybrid token]

eh i have a lot of bricked 380s

but i have like 30 guns at 548+ good rolled

so it doesnt really matter anymore

anything i bricked i made a good one

this is still the best base powersword i have though so i would like it unlocked

[crude wind]

this is useable but you'll definitely want to be running it out of weapon swap and the 10% crit/25% finesse melee nodes

mobility is a little rough

[hybrid token]

yeah bein under 50% is always

spicy

[eternal sable]

ugh

[south spindle]

Yeah you really dont need perfectly rolled stuff a lot of the time, there might be a couple instances, but none im familiar with currently other than Blazing Trauma.. like holy shit thats hard to get a workable one

[eternal sable]

this brick is gg

coping and saving them all

[hybrid token]

the new revolver is reeeeeally close to a couple breakpoints without perfect stats

[south spindle]

I actually kinda rate All or Nothing tbh

[eternal sable]

ehhh

i kinda am always fighting on 0 stamina

10% mor evalue than a t4 headtaker idk

[south spindle]

Nah seriously, use Take a Swing an All or Nothing an you can dish out some brutal push attacks on old shovel, given the new ones fold out, could be some pretty nuts output

[rigid pilot]

played like 5 rounds with new revolver

[hybrid token]

synergise together to

[vivid ocean]

why

[hybrid token]

since pushing gimps your stamina

[south spindle]

Punny fucker

[rigid pilot]

it needs some love

[vivid ocean]

are crushers, maulers, and trappers soundless in the new level

its only those and only on that level

[rigid pilot]

oh wow i didnt realise

[south spindle]

Nah, just the audio engine struggling

[south spindle]

Lmao

[rigid pilot]

soundless bomber nades

also crushers are really loud now lmao

just that they are silent while attacking, no idea why

[untold mulch]

Teh audio system of the game is pure garbage

[sharp ember]

patch 13/14 apparently introduced a new woosh backstab indicator for elites but i haven't noticed

[hybrid token]

absolute meme canon.

fun though

[sharp ember]

i did notice they made crushers talk louder

[eternal sable]

is devastating strike good on the chainsword?

[placid portal]

You really cant hear it when it's drowned from incandescent Violence

[sharp ember]

no, the value is too low, we have 2 better cleave blessings

Wrath and Savage Sweep

[placid portal]

Savage Sweep do be nice

[crude wind]

it is not

[hybrid token]

its the worst of the 3 cleave blessings

[eternal sable]

rip

[hybrid token]

could have 100% crit and itd still be the worst

[placid portal]

Backstab SFX should have funny TF2 Crit

[hybrid token]

should turn ogryns into ice statues

[placid portal]

^^^

I will spend Aquilla

[finite imp]

Gooood morning guardsmen

[sharp ember]

good morning comrade

[low wadi]

is this shite talents? pls ignore infiltrate

[placid portal]

Fancy Regicide

[finite imp]

I meant that as a blanket statement but good morning

[sharp ember]

i know what you meant

[finite imp]

Did the "are the new weapons good" people finally realize they can just go buy the weapons and play them

[hybrid token]

middle red node is bad with infil

coz it activates when you enter stealth not when you leave

[sharp ember]

looks ok, to be fair that middle red node doesn't have stiff competition

[hybrid token]

then again the 2 next to it are worthless

so who cares

[sharp ember]

[hybrid token]

born leader is ok now

they fixed it

[low wadi]

shit didnt know that

[hybrid token]

but still

the other 2 red nodes activate when you leave stealth

but the middle one doesnt

[low wadi]

ok ill go born leader instead

[sharp ember]

i'm trying a weird infiltrate vet build where i pop it aggressively for the toughness resistance and not Low Profile

[hybrid token]

i mean they fixed born leader so at least it works now

[sharp ember]

kinda like a toughness tank vet

[low wadi]

thats how i use stealth, i use it mainly for toughness reset

mainly, ofc for other stuff too

[hybrid token]

i pop low profile aggressively coz it gives me 100% toughness damage reduction

[sharp ember]

i like it with the new chainaxe, and dropping stealth immediately for the aoe suppression when diving shooters

[hybrid token]

i like infil with power sword

[low wadi]

i use overwatch and suprise attack

[hybrid token]

because activating power sword doesnt break stealth

so you can come out of stealth swinging a fully charged heavy

and decapitate like 8 gunners hiding behind a wall lol

[low wadi]

btw what does power mean?

compared to just raw extra dmg

[hybrid token]

damage, cleave and stagger

20% power is not 20% damage though

depeneds on the weapon

[low wadi]

superiority complex should be better right?

[hybrid token]

its variable

superiority complex is good if your bad

its weird

[modest crystal]

tried my best to make other guns work but i feel like plasma is the only way with vet

[woeful junco]

cant reach the poxwalker bp without infested but lack of headshot priority makes it annoying to reliably make use of it anyway so i'm going with this

thanks for the help!

[sharp ember]

someone said Sup Complex had an internal cooldown after it drops, not as good if true

[low wadi]

cooldown?

[hybrid token]

oh wait no that

duh

[sharp ember]

oh fuck my bad, I thought we were talking about Competitive Urge

[patent valley]

crusher's got some pretty sweet lines

[hybrid token]

why did i think you meant competitive urge

[crude wind]

looks pretty good lol

[hybrid token]

yeah superiority complex is one of the best points

way better than most things

[sharp ember]

yeah

[low wadi]

good

[patent valley]

really? i barely take it

i thought u wont get it that often

guess im wrong

[south spindle]

Can hear Ragers better too, with their squealy helium voices

[sharp ember]

why do they do that

[low wadi]

these 2 work right?

not bugged or anything

[south spindle]

Because Nurgle gave them Helium, clearly

[south spindle]

Ye, they work fine pal 🙂

[low wadi]

nice ty

is it this one who is bugged?

[sharp ember]

the elite damage increase, not the rng damage up

[hybrid token]

BESTO FRIENDO

[south spindle]

No sir, was fixed

[sharp ember]

it is very good now with a headshot gun

[vivid ocean]

alright, deadshot + ping tree + columnus kinda goes hard

[low wadi]

oh myabe i go left then instead

[south spindle]

Manstopper memes on Lawbringer for instant full toughness bar

[sharp ember]

go crazy and take both

[acoustic wyvern]

don't you guys think the enginseer in the new map sounds soo....sexy

[low wadi]

i want all the talents at the bottom

[south spindle]

Unless you're running Iron Will, then you only need one toughness regen talent

That skill is so fuckin strong its unreal

[low wadi]

i have iron will

[patent valley]

ah mb

[south spindle]

then ye, you dont need both Exhil and CK

[patent valley]

double confused

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

[sharp ember]

he sounds like a neglectful partner whose only love is machines

[patent valley]

take all the toughness buff, then get a gun with gloryhunter

[sharp ember]

and poetry

[patent valley]

then proceed to tank gun fire while shooting back at the enemy with suppression immunity

[acoustic wyvern]

he sounds like he'll take care of my gpus

[south spindle]

Its an option, but limits points an blessings a bit for my liking lmao

[patent valley]

its a fk u gunners option

and rn i just lack a bolter with gloryhunter to complete it

[south spindle]

Iron Will is already p'much that tbh

[patent valley]

not without voc imo

[livid fractal]

how does the vraaks vii compare to a kant lasgun

[patent valley]

idk

need an expert on this one

[livid fractal]

they have a v similar firing pattern

[versed merlin]

[hybrid token]

depends on how often you shoot guys in the face

vs over 20 metres

[finite imp]

Which braced auto fires faster when you brace it

[hybrid token]

the lasguns all have a semi hidden trait that they do more damage on enemies that are far away

whereas the headhunters do more damage at close range

[slow garden]

Wa, really?

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/why-just-why-but-why-monkey-gif-18202838286539704455

[slow garden]

Man that's obscure and weird

[untold mulch]

All lasguns except Recon have inverse falloff

[slow garden]

Explains why the lasguns always felt so inconsistent to me

[hybrid token]

all infantry lasguns do more damage at long range

[untold mulch]

Recon has a constnat falloff down down down

[slow garden]

Well hey thank you for the knowledge

[hybrid token]

theres one other gun that does more damage at long range than close

[slow garden]

My power grows

[smoky geyser]

oh that makes sense actually.

[hybrid token]

but most guns do more damage at close range

almost all of them

plasma does the same damage at every range

[smoky geyser]

I always thought it took more shots to kill maulers and ragers up close but thought I was just stupid

[slow garden]

Ah, so that's why I love my plasgun so much

Consistency

[thick hare]

can someone send me tree for plasma + ps6

https://tenor.com/view/cat-please-beg-gif-11172192

[south garnet]

If it's a consolation, both can still be true

[hybrid token]

not a small difference either

[south garnet]

:^)

[hybrid token]

especially on maniacs

[slow garden]

Man that is weird

[south garnet]

Just joshing! You are probably smart and handsome!

[hybrid token]

this is only true of infantry lasguns and helbores

all other guns do more damage at close range

except bolter

[slow garden]

This may well be why I always thought lasguns were fairly bad

[smoky geyser]

If you not using a helbore what you doin

[slow garden]

Got a few memories of being rushed by ragers and being unable to kill them in a reasonable amount of time

[inland orchid]

Enjoying efficiency blessing

[slow garden]

Then I just became plasgun enjoyer

Ey, having infinite ammo still isn't worth being dead imo, I need my damage

[hybrid token]

these damage breakdown sheets btw

are always the CLOSE RANGE damage

no matter what weapon your looking at

so lasguns at range actually do more than what this says

[smoky geyser]

how do I pretend to be a krieg marine if I dont bayonet charge though

come on

[hybrid token]

and other guns at range do less

than what this sheet says

[slow garden]

I run aurics a lot, so, alas

[hybrid token]

except plasma which is the same at every range

[slow garden]

I look at 'bad close range damage' and I see 'I will die to ragers if I take this'

[bitter turtle]

is it just me

or does the new map have audio issues

for specialists

[hybrid token]

could be more confusing

shotguns used to do bonus crit damage when ADS

[slow garden]

You're teaching me a lot of stuff right now

Keep going

[hybrid token]

no other gun did just shotguns

run and gun blessing makes your gun more accurate even while not sprinting

[slow garden]

Still bad, but useful to know

[hybrid token]

critting with the kantraels flame shell also applies the bleed from the flechette blessing

[slow garden]

I knew that one! Unfortunately I haven't gotten a Kantrael to play with thats any good yet.

[untold mulch]

If only Run and Gun were in mroe guns

[hybrid token]

is rampage still bugged

id think theyd of fixed that

[slow garden]

Tbh they should add a third 'flex' slot to guns for blessings like that specifically

Because otherwise you are always going to take the damage blessings

They're just garbage by comparison

[hybrid token]

ive said before that guns should have a third blessing thats tied to the guns variant and cant be changed

so different variants function differently

so one variant of plasma gun should have gets hot always

and one should have volatile always

something like that

[slow garden]

Alas I don't think thats likely to happen, since it would change guns people have already farmed

[grizzled pebble]

2 veterans both with damage aura

[slow garden]

Granted so does my suggestion, but it's pretty minor

[hybrid token]

damage aura is one of the best auras

[slow garden]

And just a small buff

[hybrid token]

just sucks its next to scavenger

which is THE best lol

[slow garden]

[gaunt hinge]

ok yeah fire is ridiculous now

[slow garden]

Why is 5% damage aura good?

[hybrid token]

psyler aura

[gaunt hinge]

getting trapped for like 2 seconds downs you

[hybrid token]

5% damage to elites

fire team

[slow garden]

5% damage is like, nothing. Not even important for breakpoints.

[hybrid token]

5% damage to ~everything~

[slow garden]

2 shots to kill a rager is still 2 shots

[hybrid token]

all the auras are like that

thats why scavenger is so much better

than them

because its like 50x better lol

[slow garden]

You'll only see that 5% damage make a gameplay difference like... Against a boss.

Which arent that hard to handle as is, just get krak nades

Krak em baby

[trim hemlock]

Overlapping auras don’t really provide additional benefit, though - I tend to have alternate loadouts just to split my contribution into another aura if need be

[slow garden]

Personally I want to see the other 2 auras changed so they get some ammo restore baked in

[trim hemlock]

Scav definitely needs to go in its current iteration

[hybrid token]

ammo restore aura just should exist

shouldnt

[slow garden]

I think they kind of need to exist on vet

[hybrid token]

sharpshooter tree does need ammo restore for ITSELF

[slow garden]

Because the damn gun ogryn keeps taking all my ammo, and I need to shoot specials

[untold mulch]

Reminds me of Warframe having slots purely for QoL mods, no damage allowed, etc

[hybrid token]

but it changes how every class functions to much

[slow garden]

Yep, exactly!

[hybrid token]

some classes guns just become unusable without a vet

[slow garden]

Though they did kind of kill that, there are some damage buffs in the exilus mod slot nowadays

[untold mulch]

Keep either .75% or .5%

There is a reason for scavenger

[hybrid token]

just give sharpshooter a finesse aura

[slow garden]

Either are better than nothin

[untold mulch]

but others are not dude what you doing

[south spindle]

The thing that concerns me there is shout an Boltgun ngl, thats one dubious combo

[hybrid token]

and give the vet a node to give themself ammo

[earnest halo]

alright fellow vets..

am I keeping

or tossing this shovel

[south spindle]

swap blessings, probably be fine

[slow garden]

Personally I want to see the other 2 auras reworked entirely, since even in the best circumstances, 5% move speed and 5% damage are still dogshit useless

[earnest halo]

blessings to what

[south spindle]

Uncanny/Thrust or Uncanny/SkullCrusher, Uncanny/Deci'

Uncanny/Thrust will do meaty damage to big lads, will one shot a Crusher with a suitable melee setup on the pickaxe heavy swing

[digital sinew]

Any recommended builds around the new revolver?

[earnest halo]

damn

[vivid ocean]

i can vouch for uncanny deci, its great for mixed hordes

you wind up deci and uncanny, special mode and jump bop a crusher

[finite imp]

Point blank/handcannon
Flak maniac

[south spindle]

No windup required with Uncanny/Thrust, just the 3 stack from Thrust

[slow garden]

A finesse aura would be good, for one.

Could also do melee attack speed

(Though that's more of a zealot thing)

[earnest halo]

hjmm

[slow garden]

Anything that actually makes an impact. 5% move and 5% damage basically change nothing in how you play.

If aura's stacked they would be broken

But they don't, so they're useless

[outer mulch]

Hmm. If you run into a squad with multiple vets should you switch auras?

[slow garden]

On paper yeah but the difference is so tiny that even if you don't, it's w/e

Nobody is gonna feel much of a difference

[olive timber]

I would move scav for the middle 'support' tree, give sharpshooter a finesse aura and give the other one a mobility aura (stamina cost, dodge range, dodge amount and the likes)

[crude wind]

this Lawbringer build just always seems to get top damage very time I use it

it's SO fun

[vivid ocean]

all effects are in coherency, so imo no

i would rather guarantee the ammo refund

than min max 5% damage or speed

[south spindle]

Was about to do a game with that and new Shovel 😄

Good to see its performing well

[viral nacelle]

You don’t need scav aura for any gun if you don’t shoot literally everything you see tbh

[vivid ocean]

is lawbringer the slug shotty?

[crude wind]

nah

the linesman one

[bitter turtle]

lawbringer is the horizontal cleave shotgun

[south spindle]

Ye

[viral nacelle]

What are you even shooting with a wide cleave gun? Hordes?

[olive timber]

Also respeccinng every time is a chore

[bitter turtle]

yes, its anti horde

[slow garden]

Eyo, where I'm from, we like cleaving shotguns

[crude wind]

hordes and big clumps of shooters

murders em

[viral nacelle]

🫤

[crude wind]

clumbs of gunners too if they are stupid enough to stand together

[viral nacelle]

I don’t like using ammo on hordes

[bitter turtle]

you're right

[crude wind]

it doesn't matter you have infinite ammo

[south spindle]

Manstopper + Flechette wipes a horde in like 2 shots, its not inefficient

[bitter turtle]

i guess flamer should just stop existing

and other anti horde focused guns

lol

[viral nacelle]

Compared to revolver zealot? Yes

[bitter turtle]

le meme revolver folded 1000 times is/was just an overpowered gun, rather than an indictment on any other weapon in particular

[viral nacelle]

I don’t mean “meme crusher clapper revolver”

[slow garden]

Alas, I never rolled a good revolver.

[viral nacelle]

I mean “useful special snapshotting revolver”

[grizzled pebble]

Both ragequitted.

[bitter turtle]

yes

[south spindle]

Lmao

[bitter turtle]

there are also guns that are excellent at dealing with mixed hordes

crowd control is not useless

[slow garden]

Plasgun comes to mind for that

[bitter turtle]

just because its on a gun

who even decided that arbitrarily

lol

[slow garden]

'Aha you are hiding behind 20 of your allies?'

'Good'

[south spindle]

Well.. Smite is pretty dog 😄

[maiden trail]

Buff flamer , add melta for anti armor type of weapon 😛

[slow garden]

*Zwuuuuuuuuu vhoop!

[bitter turtle]

not every gun needs to be a quickswap special sniper

[sharp ember]

clotheslining shooters peeking their heads over cover with the horizontal shell will never stop being funny

[viral nacelle]

Smite is for fueling peril for spamming fire on everything

It’s very handy for that

[south spindle]

Yeah, but even then its slowwwww

[viral nacelle]

Idk, it’s a lot of fire

[odd sparrow]

What smite is amazing stunlocking huge chunks of a fight so your team can dispatch them with ease is an incredible tool

[viral nacelle]

Meh that part is ok but just killing those things is generally better

[slow garden]

Smite is basically a flamethrower you don't have to pay your ranged slot to get

Except even better

[bitter turtle]

even better except the whole

[south spindle]

I dont rate it myself, slows the game down, an often means people have to be out of position to push up on stuff thats not walking to its death

[bitter turtle]

"doing damage" part

but yeah

lol

[slow garden]

Space matters a lot more than damage at aurics

[viral nacelle]

I wait to smite til stuff is on top of people

[bitter turtle]

i dont hate it

[maiden trail]

Grenadier vet with all the talents for bleeds and burns and rechargable grenades (using frags) , great for softening hordes up

[sharp ember]

it's nice but when they do it on a pure-trash horde at a chokepoint it's kinda annoying when we could just let them clump up and kill them

[bitter turtle]

but you definitely feel it when you run with multiple smite psykers

[viral nacelle]

Or I use smite to stop a horde so I can barf fire on it for a quick kill

[bitter turtle]

in yes, auric mael

[south spindle]

Aye, but thats a supplement, not a sole investment

[slow garden]

Yeah multiple smite is a bit too much

[bitter turtle]

i dont play anything else

[slow garden]

Let us suffer together fish

[viral nacelle]

usually other people play smite as cc rather than damage and then the team is hauling around dead weight

[south spindle]

Nah, it really doesnt, if you're not killing things fast enough, the director just spawns more things and you end up with even less space

[small echo]

The new cadia Chainsword. What Blessings and Perks?

[odd sparrow]

But outside of ogryn nuke theres not many good ways of dealing with packs of say ragers or crushers

[maiden trail]

Pair with plasma gun to pop bigger guys and for a straight shot through a horde as well 😂

[slow garden]

If you're overwhelmed and have no CC, you just get pinched without anywhere to move

[viral nacelle]

Krak, headshot with vrak7 build right, plasma spam, axes etc etc

[south spindle]

Yeah does well if you're holding a chokepoint for sure

[slow garden]

Then a flametrhower says hi

[viral nacelle]

Oh even chainaxe now

[slow garden]

Overall we mostly agree though

[bitter turtle]

yes, but if you have too many smitekers, you end up with this situation :^)

[slow garden]

Both are supremely important

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/8086bcea9f5f3b1c5cdb778659411b2e.jpg

[maiden trail]

Or have an ogryn drawing attention 😉

[slow garden]

Yep! Its a balancing act

[south spindle]

Yeah it can happen, but the more damage your team is putting out, the less chance there is for that to happen, apples an oranges really

[slow garden]

Killing and CC are both incredibly high importance

[viral nacelle]

IMO flamethrower is just bad like you are a zealot why not just murder everything with your melee and still clap armor

[slow garden]

Its bad to overinvest in either

[south spindle]

I mean.. the Ogryn could, at least in theory, do the lot without you needing to fire a single shot 😂 they're pretty much immortal atm

[viral nacelle]

I had to stop playing my super tough gungryn because it was trivializing content

[slow garden]

Also, thanks for the tip on the AI director overspawning

[viral nacelle]

And I was getting bored

[slow garden]

I didnt know it did that

Interesting

[south spindle]

Yeah, its not so noticable in STG, but very noticable in Maelstrom

[viral nacelle]

You can literally be an immortal melee monster who dumpsters bosses

[south spindle]

If you're being slow, he decides to fuck you even harder

[viral nacelle]

It’s noticeable on every difficulty if you get 3 zero value add dolts

[south spindle]

Director is a crack-addled loony and its fantastic

[slow garden]

Hahaha

I've been running aurics for awhile and honestly never noticed

[pulsar drift]

Advices on the perks?

[slow garden]

Maniac and flak I say

Prob maniac

[pulsar drift]

I can only change one

so

kk

which one to swap

[maiden trail]

Wish I had a team of them to help me get through without getting meleed by a mob spawning out of thin air for the dam penance ;_; and yes a rager literally just spawned in my face earlier on my zealot XD I took my anger out and murdered it fast since I didn't have such a penance for zealot like that because mobs do spawn out of nowhere making that vet penance annoying

[pulsar drift]

6 elite or 4% crit

[slow garden]

I'd swap the crit chance personally, but you should check with someone who knows the revolvers super well

I might be giving you bad advice there

[south spindle]

jump into the I-II-V-E-G modifier for A.Maelstrom sometime You'll get a board like this.. (if you survive)

[slow garden]

Thats 4% crit might be the difference between having 100% crit chance

[south spindle]

846 total specials, elites and disablers

[slow garden]

And having 96

Lol holy shit, nice

I still need to mod my game

[bitter turtle]

ya

its games like that

[pulsar drift]

With the build I have I think I got like around 70

[bitter turtle]

where i really think you will never say

[pulsar drift]

so probably swap it

[bitter turtle]

"we have too much dmg"

[viral nacelle]

40 free nades yuss

[slow garden]

Whats your fave vet weapon anyways Mud?

[south spindle]

Legit, can always have more

[pulsar drift]

but 6 elite dmg just..

[slow garden]

I prefer Plasgun, but looking for suggestions

[pulsar drift]

kinda lame

[south spindle]

At the moment? Agri' BAG because you can be mad aggressive with it

Pretty vanilla i know lmao

[slow garden]

Ey, to each their own, I'll try it out sometime!

[viral nacelle]

I have decided to stay on auric damn where I can run dumbass builds 😂

[pulsar drift]

or nvm

its 8 elite

just gonna change the crit then

thx

[acoustic wyvern]

anyone tried a suppression build?

[slow garden]

Check your breakpoints first

Rubri

Tbh 8% special probably isnt important, specials are usually p squishy

[south spindle]

Again, BAG has all the suppression you would ever need, point it in the general direction of stuff an they shit bricks an put thier heads down

[slow garden]

Lol suppression build

[pulsar drift]

yea I checked

[crude wind]

i love it man

[slow garden]

All good then!

[acoustic wyvern]

bag?

[slow garden]

Enjoy the 'volver mate

[crude wind]

jus watching 5 heads errupt into a fountain of gore

[viral nacelle]

I find shooting things in the head until they die is the best suppression

[bitter turtle]

specialist dmg sucks because maniac dmg is just a better version of it

the only specialists that dont have maniac armor are made out of paper anyway

[south spindle]

Braced Autogun

[crude wind]

wb btw man, haven't seen u on Darktide discord since the very early days of Darktide Zealot chat

[pulsar drift]

And btw

[acoustic wyvern]

thats true, i just thought it'd be fun to try powderburn on shredder autopistol

[viral nacelle]

👋

[pulsar drift]

If I am running revolver do I still need kraks?

[viral nacelle]

I came back for the big talent rework, it was goodly

[south spindle]

Elite damage on the other hand tho... super fuckin good

[bitter turtle]

only if you want to stunlock b osses imo

[crude wind]

glad to hear man, yeah game is definitely more fun as a result of it 🙂

[pulsar drift]

Okay

[sharp ember]

not really, if you have Handcannon + Crit chance blessing you'll blast them to pieces

[crude wind]

now all they need to do is sort out the power creep and we're golden

[sharp ember]

take shredders or a melee complement

[slow garden]

I'd say still run kraks, since they're run-savingly good against armor

[viral nacelle]

I vote always try weird shit, sometimes it pays out

[pulsar drift]

Ok

[south spindle]

More enemies. Throw more enemies at us

[viral nacelle]

Like I went from laughing at nade build to playing the shit out of it because it’s fun as hell

[slow garden]

Mud over here wanting the emperor difficulty

[south spindle]

Give me Exterminatus T6

[slow garden]

I run nade/support build myself

[south spindle]

[viral nacelle]

I bet you a dollar they’re gonna add daemons soon

[slow garden]

Dont even run a keystone (yet)

[south spindle]

That would be cool tbh

[slow garden]

I'm still tinkering the build

[viral nacelle]

Some of the characters have been talking about daemon hounds and how they don’t die

[south spindle]

When Plague Toad?

[south spindle]

Oh really? New voicelines i assume?

[inland orchid]

Middle keystone is pretty fun but u can forget bout it sometimes

[viral nacelle]

Darktide seems to like previewing content with character lines

[viral nacelle]

Yeah just started hearing it after carnival

[maiden trail]

Meanwhile I still haven't gotten the no melee hit penance done 😛 from the other day you were there when I ranted about mobs popping out of nowhere , legit had a rager spawn in my zealots face earlier XD not s jumped down climb up or anything, was just there

[south spindle]

Interesting, i'll keep an ear out for those

[crude wind]

there's one of the OG penances I just never bothered to do

couldn't be fucked

[viral nacelle]

There was a convo about hound packs and then a line about how “at least they’re mortal unlike something something daemons”

[crude wind]

think its the hit every shot one

[placid portal]

Sucks when you are going well and then the ogryn gets downed in a middle of a firing line

[torn needle]

What perks do y'all go for plasma gun? Still flak/maniac or unarmored instead of maniac for gunners?

[south spindle]

[slow garden]

Flak/Maniac for plasgun

Always

[bitter turtle]

didnt ppl run unarmored sometimes for gunner breakpoint

[slow garden]

Gunners are irrelevant usually, they get staggered when you hit them with plasgun anyway

[bitter turtle]

idk i dont play the weapon

[south spindle]

I spent a few days trying to get that in Heresy before realising i'd already done in in some random Auric game ages ago

Was an annoying amount of wasted time

[slow garden]

Gunner is easy to counter, just stand behind something

[viral nacelle]

I’d love to see some of the crusher mobs replaced with small numbers of daemons

[weak sluice]

lasgun for life

[maiden trail]

No ammo at end 90% accuracy?

[slow garden]

Flak and Maniacs are way more run ending

[crude wind]

lol yeah that one

just seemed really unfun so I never bothered

[stiff glacier]

What boosts should i have for shotgun.

[inland orchid]

Director:behold as this entire team wipes due to me pressing the bomber and tox flamer button

[stiff glacier]

Tryinna use stealth shotty

[slow garden]

Ah, true.

[viral nacelle]

Christ almighty the amount of people getting butchered by a single flame nade

[maiden trail]

Easy to do , use revolver , get your shots in where your group isn't focused at cause they'll murder the thing before your bullets hit , especially those psykers XD , then play melee build

[slow garden]

Since the flame bug true

Hoping they fix that shit soon, still waiting 3 days later.

😴

Just hotfix it already

[steady garden]

Do you guys think this one is good or not?

[viral nacelle]

Bosses: 😴
Literally a single tox flamer: 😱 🏃‍♀️ 💀

[maiden trail]

What's the bug?

[slow garden]

Flame is bugged and kills you way faster than FS intended atm

[crude wind]

yeah i should just do it, been lazy for a year 😛

[slow garden]

They intend to fix it

[maiden trail]

Ah yeah I thought that was a bit off for the flamer DMG

[south spindle]

has that been confirmed?

[viral nacelle]

My psyker with 90 tough/240hp is dying in four flame nade tics from full hp/tough

[slow garden]

I got linked a forum post from them yesterday

May want to double check but my understanding is yeah

[viral nacelle]

If I guess wrong about which way to run out of the fire lakes I’m dead before I can change my mind

[south spindle]

Huh ok, i was under the impression it was intended

[viral nacelle]

Even with bunny hopping

[slow garden]

I think they doubled the tick rate accidentally, from my testing

[maiden trail]

Easier than the not getting meleed one XD mobs literally spawn out of thin air in my face lolol saw it on my zealot because it was already in swinging motion as it spawned

[slow garden]

Probably added a brand new damage tick without removing the old damage tick

[south spindle]

Huh.. Brunt actually has something good in his shop, would ye lookie that

[weak sluice]

I just added some resistance to my qurios

have not had any problem with flamers

[viral nacelle]

I may be dumb but I don’t rate the new las on vet. Feels perfect for gunker tho

[slow garden]

My aurics buddy refuses to play until the flames are fixed, so

I'm really hoping they just fuckin' hotfix it already, mate

[viral nacelle]

Devs like “ we wuz gonna hotfix but rogue trader launching”

Tbh if I wasn’t moving my customers would also be SOL because rogue trader day 😂

[south spindle]

Will find out inna mo, time to buildcraft 😂

[patent valley]

almost god roll mark 7 shovel

8 modifier points off

[slow garden]

Almost god roll still might as well be a god roll mate

[low wadi]

i died in the elevator at end 😄

[slow garden]

Take it and enjoy it

[patent valley]

got 25% carapace, 8% melee crit for perks

uncanny 4 and thunderstrike 4 for blessings

what should i change melee crit dmg to

and thunderstrike 4 needs to be replaced too right>

dont need more impact on stuff i can already stagger

[viral nacelle]

If you wait long enough to change a blessing Fatshark will bless you by making it meta

[patent valley]

wish i could screenshot, but something wrong with it now

[slow garden]

Use snip tool

[patent valley]

i dont have that

or least i dont know how to use even if i do have that

[slow garden]

Go windows search bar

Type in snipping

Its ez, just hit new, you'll figure it out. Then copypaste it into discord.

[untold flame]

Win+shift+s also hotkeys it

[patent valley]

well if i change thunderstrike, i can always change it back to thunderstrike when its meta

thanks for teaching bout snip

so crit dmg -> ?
thunderstrike -> ?

[viral nacelle]

I will never stop using the traditional ms paint method of snipping

[bleak tangle]

I'm tired, boss... I forgot what grass feel like...

[patent valley]

well, if i can straight up copy paste it, most situation i'll use snippin too

[viral nacelle]

It’ll be 2090 and paint will be a hundred years old and my great granddaughter will be mocking my ancient ways

But by god I will still be an mspaint user

[gaunt hinge]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1HSFysE3HKHGFv/d1337pOLBPRf?invite=cr-MSxOWTgsNjY5MDkzMzMs

fire do be a bitch nowadays

[viral nacelle]

zealot flamethrower hits like a baby by comparison

Bring back all consuming launch flamethrower 😂

[patent valley]

i looked at that 30 seconds of devil claw light swings and my god, that dmg

why would u do that

[gaunt hinge]

do what

[patent valley]

well its not 30 seconds but u get it

[viral nacelle]

I added bleed on hit perk for devil claw and it sped things up a ton

[patent valley]

only light swing

[viral nacelle]

Yeh got to heavy to cut heads

[gaunt hinge]

if im getting flanked by bruisers i cant do it safely

[patent valley]

that dmg, especially with healthbar shoving it in your face, jesus

i wish u can deal more with light

but they invested tons of dmg into parry

[gaunt hinge]

if you have a frontline established you can heavy attack all you want

but until that happens doing it isnt safe

[patent valley]

gotcha

dont usually find myself getting hit if im swinging in a corner tho

but ig u gotta push urself out somehow

specially when there are bombers somewhere

[gaunt hinge]

im glad they made parry good

a rager hiding among horde enemies arent a problem with it

[south spindle]

Yeah you can, just push once in a while

[languid terrace]

Seems pretty good, but any idea how to make it better?

[shell ginkgo]

Upgrade it

[whole moon]

didnt read this close enough and missed that its one of the new revolvers, have I bricked it now?

[viral nacelle]

That pen stat says “don’t worry, this isn’t a keeper”

[olive timber]

Guys, how the infantry autoguns fares above heresy?

[viral nacelle]

Col IAG is pretty crazy, the rest aren’t anything special

You don’t really need to worry about specific guns etc until auric damn. Even malice maelstrom is a total sleeper

[whole moon]

is the new revolver meant to pen more than one enemy? I must have misunderstood

[viral nacelle]

I am math impaired so 🤷‍♀️ pen generally isn’t the dump stat tho

[olive timber]

Exactly him. But does It need a specialized build to work in damnation?

[viral nacelle]

Not really, although I’d recommend bringing scav aura, kraks and shout for a good experience

[whole moon]

its normally mobility with anything that has mobility as a stat so your almost certainly right, just wondering if I can sneak it thru. Might swap out Surgical for Trickshooter, for fanning fire it looks a better blessing

[olive pelican]

im looking for new weapons, any suggestion with an especific build? im mainly using the old revolver and a colomnus with shovel both with left tree

[olive timber]

Thats already my generalist build. I thought also to give him maniac and flak but i feel the blessings for autos are too much focused on cqc

[gusty bison]

Wait revolver with left tree?

[olive pelican]

Yeah, one shooting crushers on head shoots

i dunno seems cool

i can test on another tree

[gusty bison]

Left is generally regarded as worst for revolver

Like u want the first few nodes yes

But it doesnt wanna go deep

[whole moon]

you might like the new Mk3 shovel, its quite versatile

[olive pelican]

lmao well im making it work somehoew.

[olive pelican]

already using it

[gusty bison]

Its volver tbf

It just works

[olive pelican]

yeah

[gusty bison]

Its just left tree doesnt do much for it

[olive pelican]

its fun just to oneshot crushers

in general im not having much problems

but i can try for another one

center or right?

[gusty bison]

Generally volver is right tree

To avoid needing to reload

[olive timber]

Go mid for maximum options

[gusty bison]

Cos thats the biggest limitation of volver. Only 5 bullets in the clip

[olive pelican]

yeah i guess, im not a big fan of the melee central skill of the right

but i can try

[gusty bison]

Volver loves melee though?

[timid crow]

Pen stat is for increasing your damage against armored/unyielding is why you generally don't wanna have that as your dump stat. Would drop Surgical for something else cause if you're aiming you're gonna be fanning the whole clip and it seems like Surgical is only going to affect your first shot. May as well use the old revolver for Surgical.

[gusty bison]

Its low ammo reserve + high swap speed means ur gonna spend more time on melee

So by that nature melee buffs help volver builds a lot

[whole moon]

yeah, thinking same, went for Trickshooter, power buff on weakspot hit, stacks 5 times. Seems a good fit imo

[gusty bison]

Not to mention not needing to reload

[olive pelican]

what blessing are u using on volver?

im doing surgical and hand cannon right now

[gusty bison]

Handcannon surgical

Surgical optional with right tree

But still ok

[olive pelican]

ok il try

any other cool weapon on this patch on ranged? just to have something to work up to

[gusty bison]

Right tree is basically

Revolver that never needs to reload + ability to instaswap

[timid crow]

Probably be pretty easy to build up those stacks against the big enemies as well

[gusty bison]

Everything

Literally everything

[olive pelican]

im guessing executioenr stance is not a good idea on right tree with volver right?

[timid crow]

As in Executioner's Stance into Weapon Specialist?

[olive pelican]

as in this

[viral nacelle]

You could cut everything after idea and be absolutely correct

The sole use case for exe is quick drawing stuff like bolter that takes forever to pull imo

[olive pelican]

oh yeah sorry i miss read

executioner to weapon specialist yeah

[viral nacelle]

IMO if you want to go ranged take deadshot and a couple other minor ranged damage perks

[olive pelican]

Well i was using it with the left volver and it was fun staying on exe for like 2 minutes killing everything from one shot

[timid crow]

You might be able to make it work if you wanted to keep uptime on Executioner's stance by just reloading 1 round and taking something out but seems a bit wasteful on ammo with the revolver

[olive pelican]

you can drop 3 rounds before shooting someone else

just aim while loading, and spam shoot on the 3 round

usually works

[ebon umbra]

for a second i thought those were psykers and i was very confused

i forgot total ammo count isnt vanilla

[celest vine]

We ran damage and movement speed

I dont need scavanger

I have a crit lasgun build

[ebon umbra]

yeah if it saves u talents screw them

u dont owe them ammo

[celest vine]

Used that extra point for exhilarating takedown

[ebon umbra]

[muted knot]

is this any good ?

[celest vine]

Other zealot was chill

Used her health stim on me twice

[vivid ocean]

that ammo's a bit rough

[celest vine]

Gave her a damage boost on a karnak twin boss

[muted knot]

how much does ammo change on shotguns?

[timid crow]

70 rounds at 80%

[whole moon]

Inspect the weapon and hover over the stat

[timid crow]

so not terrible but every bit helps

[vivid ocean]

the bigger hit is to mag size

[whole moon]

as you can see the range listed covers stats up to 100 but you'll never reach that

yet

[muted knot]

yet?

[timid crow]

Assuming 100% is going to be saved for an upcoming new rarity of weapons beyond Transcendent

Or just general weapon changes in the future to let you get there

[muted knot]

this seems not great

[atomic zephyr]

ehhh, salvageable?

[topaz pebble]

I uh, never realised now much damage a bulwark swing does

[atomic zephyr]

id replace hit and run with fullbore

swap stam for maniac

gives you a servicable shotgun

[topaz pebble]

Like damn, I got hit once and instantly died from full hp

[atomic zephyr]

wait what

they do that much?

[serene sage]

I don't think they do that much?

[atomic zephyr]

i swear ive been hit by bulwarks w/o toughness and they just take out a big chunk

bro has the hp of tissue paper?

[solid pecan]

Yup don't dodge backwards never works for me

[topaz pebble]

Oh yeah, 160 damage

[serene sage]

yeah 1/2 HP seems more reasonable, OHKO is a bit high

[bitter turtle]

i mean

[atomic zephyr]

dodging to the right side of the bulwark lets you get behind it real easy

[topaz pebble]

Yeah that kills me from full hp

[bitter turtle]

normal enemies do a lot of dmg in general

[serene sage]

no justine you don't

you don't mean it

[bitter turtle]

when you dont have toughness up

[atomic zephyr]

huh, true

[bitter turtle]

pls

lol

[serene sage]

no

[topaz pebble]

Oh no, i was just surprised by how much damage that did

[serene sage]

just no

[atomic zephyr]

yeah bulwarks are easy to underestimate

[topaz pebble]

Like i think that was my first time getting hit by a bulwark

Outside of the shield bash

[serene sage]

u_u

[timid crow]

Still an Ogryn after all I guess lol

[solid helm]

If you dont get to Close they attack you and Open up

[atomic zephyr]

eh, they die in one hit to kraks so i sleep

[solid pecan]

Do you mean crushers not bulwarks?

[atomic zephyr]

krak my beloved

[solid helm]

Then Dodge Back and shoot at the head

[atomic zephyr]

oh yeah a CRUSHER will one hit down easy

but he said shield bash

so no, means bulwark

[solid pecan]

Ah Ty, missed that bit

[timid crow]

Now are we talking the itty bitty shield bash they do? Or the big windup swing with the club? Cause if it's the shield bash that seems ridiculous

[serene sage]

anyone else getting constant crashing from the game?

[atomic zephyr]

the big windup

[topaz pebble]

So bulwark swings do 160 damage a hit

[atomic zephyr]

mods?

i havent been crashing

[topaz pebble]

That would instantly down me

[serene sage]

it keep giving some wierd decompression error, or just straight up disconnecting me

[viral nacelle]

Actually getting hit by the bulwark swing seems like something you’d have to actively try to do

[atomic zephyr]

though a zealot last night crashed at the end of a warrens run

[viral nacelle]

They telegraph so hard you can just walk away from the attack 😂

[timid crow]

Definitely noticed more disconnects last night than usual. Seemed server-related

[topaz pebble]

Yeah its kinda hard to when 5 bulwarks are morbed inside one another

[pulsar drift]

Man the twin bosses that sword dude is so hard to aim

[stiff glacier]

I got the grenade penance with smoke grenade

Lmao

[pulsar drift]

He just keep running

[atomic zephyr]

i only ever get hit by bulwark if im backed into a corner

[topaz pebble]

You cant see shit

[atomic zephyr]

rinda karnak is a hell of a fight

[topaz pebble]

That was my first time getting hit by a bulwark

[viral nacelle]

I got like three in one mission, on the fourth I noped out

[atomic zephyr]

rodin karnak is just annoying lmao

[serene sage]

also, did anyone realize that assassination bosses are nerfed?

[topaz pebble]

I was surprised by the damage

Bro, Rodin salts the fucking earth

[atomic zephyr]

the captains?

[serene sage]

their push back no longer breaks shields

[timid crow]

Yeesh, wasn't that bad for me

[topaz pebble]

Cant walk anywhere

[viral nacelle]

I hate the twit that spams green gas nades the most, blocks entire area

[serene sage]

yeah the captain

[atomic zephyr]

havent played one recently, ill have to try it

oh yeah both can fuck you over real good

[pulsar drift]

Yea same

[topaz pebble]

Like weeb twin isnt bad

[viral nacelle]

The melee one is a bitch, I whupped his ass with deathclaw parries

[atomic zephyr]

once last night rodin threw out his gas mines and made me backpedal into fire
instant down

[topaz pebble]

Rodin is a bastard

[pulsar drift]

But smoke dude at least is good to aim

[stiff glacier]

Can both karnaks appear in same mission?

[pulsar drift]

The melee one

No

[rigid pilot]

gun guy is fine, his melee doesnt keep interrupting your thrust attacks lol

[atomic zephyr]

(also for the record i think rinda karnak (sword) is she/her)

[topaz pebble]

It would be cool if they could

[stiff glacier]

Pls no

[topaz pebble]

Yes, Rinda is the sister

[serene sage]

i feel like the twin bosses are still easier than normal bosses though

[topaz pebble]

We're talking about Rodin

[pulsar drift]

That atk speed and charge

[topaz pebble]

The bastard of a brother

[rigid pilot]

yea they get cc-ed very easily

[atomic zephyr]

they are yes

[topaz pebble]

Nah, those twins are way harder than normal bosses

[bitter turtle]

a g-girl? 👉 👈

[viral nacelle]

I don’t care about the pronouns of a heretic tbh

[topaz pebble]

Normal bosses dont salt the earth they walk on

[stiff glacier]

You cant krak nade them saddly

[atomic zephyr]

?????

i stuck one to rinda's face

[bitter turtle]

lewd

[serene sage]

what armor type are they even

[viral nacelle]

As far as I’m concerned the only pronouns for the twits are ass/hole

[stiff glacier]

Every time ive sticked them they fall off

[serene sage]

👀

[atomic zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/necrons-warhammer-gauss-gif-24598584

[topaz pebble]

They got carapaced helmets i think

[timid crow]

Been reading a lot that they're armored like Maulers

[topaz pebble]

Cause you hear a dink if you swing there

[atomic zephyr]

yeah theyre armored like maulers

[serene sage]

I get blasted in the face AND die after? don't threaten me with a good time.

[viral nacelle]

Deathclaw parry claps the sword one and the gun one you can stagger step to dodge all the shots

[timid crow]

So kraks shoooould magnetize to their face?

[viral nacelle]

They are dead easy except for the fart clouds which are annoying

[atomic zephyr]

dude i pinged rinda last night thinking she was a mauler, imagine my surprise when she teleported across the room and fucking shanked me

actual jumpscare

[stiff glacier]

Idk what has happened when ive fought them but every time kraks just drop off

[serene sage]

the teleport is hella cool though

I do like that

nothing personel kid

[topaz pebble]

Rinda is a cool fight

[viral nacelle]

Well they don’t dodge boosted shredder nades

[atomic zephyr]

legit almost shit my pants my first encounter

[viral nacelle]

Another win for grenadier build!

[topaz pebble]

Mr. Plasma gun and gas clouds on the other hand

[atomic zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

i fucking love my grenadier build

[timid crow]

I'm pretty certain they do stick cause that's been my strat is to just run up and jam the nade on them but there might be some nuance to it

[serene sage]

except shredder doesn't do that much to bosses, even with 2xnades for near max bleeds

[jade notch]

Fighting Rinda is fun

You get to see who's the bigger Crackhead between you and her

That, and both Twins get staggered by Vet VoC or Zealot Relic.

[atomic zephyr]

heretic swarms when the veteran throws six frag nades

[stiff glacier]

I guess rinda just switches target and drops the nade when she swooshes

[viral nacelle]

I think I remember it staggering them

[timid crow]

That might be it

[viral nacelle]

Btw the new bosses absolutely clap noobs so be on the watch for that

[atomic zephyr]

shredder staggers bosses

[viral nacelle]

They have more run ending potential than chaos spawn even

[atomic zephyr]

rodin wrecked one of my runs last night in ten seconds

[viral nacelle]

And it’s a pain getting their agro

[serene sage]

I know it certainly does normal bosses at least so that's fair

[viral nacelle]

Again, they’re actually really easy to fight

[atomic zephyr]

honestly i find it really depends on where the encounter is

[jade notch]

It's a shame neither Twin counts towards "Kill X Monstrosities" Melk Weekly, though.

[atomic zephyr]

narrow hallways with a flamer behind you? kiss your ass goodbye if that flamer isnt killed instantly

[timid crow]

"Teeeechnically they dip before you kill them sooooo"

[topaz pebble]

Rodin is actually hell in small areas

[serene sage]

cause the girl is cute, not a monstrosity and I want her number u_u

[viral nacelle]

Well obviously if you have a mixed horde of ragers and crushers ganging you while you fight the boss it’s way harder 😂

[topaz pebble]

Yes inquisitor, this guy right here

[jade notch]

Well, it sucks.

[atomic zephyr]

you cant even see her face how's she cute

[timid crow]

Agreed lol

[jade notch]

[bitter turtle]

wow

its what's inside that counts

[serene sage]

girl in full armor >>> girl in nothing else

[atomic zephyr]

darktide players when they encounter a woman or something (new miniboss just dropped)

[bitter turtle]

shallow af

[topaz pebble]

Yeah, inside Rinda is heresy and chaos

[bitter turtle]

go on

[topaz pebble]

Death

[atomic zephyr]

ooh, good point. but not this one.

[serene sage]

yeah, if only girls are real 😔

[topaz pebble]

Honestly

[stiff glacier]

Darktide players when they meet cashier

[topaz pebble]

Darktide players when they go outside

[serene sage]

very not progressive of you to assume that cashiers have to be girls 😤

[jolly cave]

Is veteran chat okay

[stiff glacier]

Does it have to?

[atomic zephyr]

are we ever?

[viral nacelle]

One of my favorite dates was with a cashier I flirted with and got her number. We went back to her place and were gonna do some adult stuff but then I saw she had this adorable hamster so instead of all that I spent the evening playing with the hamster. 10/10, sad I never saw it again

[bitter turtle]

i dont want to hear that from the person who plays the video game equivalent of war and peace with catgirls

[viral nacelle]

Turns out ladies do not like getting upstaged by their pet rodent

[stiff glacier]

If only i had social flair

[serene sage]

I mean the tree is OP now, plasma didn't get nerfed, PS6 didn't get nerfed, revolver is still OP, we don't have anythign to whine about

[bitter turtle]

there's nothing left to talk about really

[atomic zephyr]

someone should make a mod for darktide that replaces the shredder frag with that one png of a rat being held like a toy

[unreal drum]

I still don't use keystones.

[bitter turtle]

you can only say "recon bad" so many times before it stops being fun

[viral nacelle]

And you’re right, they’re bad

[sinful flax]

Guys, is someone experiencing no VFX when shooting Plasma gun a lot of the times?
Happening since latest patch very often

[topaz pebble]

Bug

In true Obese Megaladon fashion

[atomic zephyr]

weapons specialist keystone with a chainsword is incredibly fun though
pop some poxwalker with a laspistol, swap to it and pretend to be a blender for a couple seconds

[serene sage]

it's a valid option if you want, though ive seen plenty of people not running them and do really well, too
choices are good

[sinful flax]

Oh, ok
I thought maybe some mods broke it after update

[atomic zephyr]

my ILG exe stance build doesnt use keystones

definitely not required

[finite imp]

which brauto has higher RPM when you brace it again

[sinful flax]

I like Weapon Specialist with Plasma and Chainsword too

[topaz pebble]

Graia

[atomic zephyr]

brautos can change their rof?

[finite imp]

ty

[finite imp]

Graia does

i remembered one of them doing it

[viral nacelle]

Just chat, tell a few jokes and be hot

[serene sage]

I heard if you crouch it does something?

[atomic zephyr]

i havent tried that yet, ive been using the new laspistol with it on a melee build for quick pop-shots

[serene sage]

oh wait it resets the spread

not rof

[finite imp]

tightens your spray pattern

[serene sage]

yee