veteran-class

[celest vine]

You used to be able to troll your team with the daemonhost

[naive hatch]

It replaced my MG XII

[tall torrent]

“Sharpshooter” revolver without suppression immunity vs gunners is pretty bad

[celest vine]

Cause infiltrate used to hide you from daemonhosts

[flat pebble]

ive just been ignoring people when they aggro host now because it's their problem and it seems to choose me less as the second target

[celest vine]

Piss them off then hide

Its fixed now

But it was funny

[viral nacelle]

The old one or the new one?

[tall torrent]

Zarona mk2

[flat pebble]

old one

[viral nacelle]

Old one works just fine without suppression resist, peek out from cover and dome stuff

[flat pebble]

at that point you could say that about literally every ranged weapon

[spark helm]

Griefed a really annoying zealot once.

[viral nacelle]

Exactly. That’s why suppression resist is bad

[gloomy kestrel]

what kinda armor do the karnak twins have on?

[midnight mortar]

It used to be that the 2nd target would always be whomever dealt the most damage to it after it was aggroed the first time.

[flat pebble]

???

man

[gloomy kestrel]

i noticed kraks won't stick to them even on direct hits

[serene sage]

just don't get supressed lol

[spark helm]

still killed the dh and clutched it with the remaining second.

[celest vine]

Should I take redirect fire (bonus damage on marked target kill for 10 seconds)

Or increast the keystone spot stacks to 8?

[spark helm]

I like it but idk if people ever really feel it.

[tall torrent]

How to deal with suppression:

1. Kill them all before they suppress you
2. Bring a helbore

[viral nacelle]

Vraks7 underrated

[flat pebble]

does helbore have innate suppression resist or something

[celest vine]

Helbores are janky

[desert isle]

sup boys how is the new revolver?

[fossil basalt]

3. Suppress them back

[tall torrent]

Mk3 sure

[flat pebble]

seems fine

[spark helm]

then again it's the kind of support talent that is supplemental to someone else's output. So if they're fucking up enough, it won't matter.

[viral nacelle]

Seems not bad in competent hands

[sharp ember]

basically yes, it's incredibly stable

[midnight mortar]

The mk3 is. The mk2 and 1 are quite smooth.

[desert isle]

how does it compare with the plasmagun?

[flat pebble]

ill have to give it a try without determined on

[viral nacelle]

Could not think of two more different guns

[celest vine]

Its the choice between an extra 7% damage or an extra 12% on one specific target

7% after kill

[desert isle]

i mean i havent used it yet so idk

what gun would you compare it to?

[flat pebble]

it's basically the brauto of revolvers

[viral nacelle]

Mini brauto

[flat pebble]

if you think of the old revolver as a HH auto and the new one as a braced auto that's kinda it

[spark helm]

Hm...:<

I gambled and the house won.

idr if I got some of the blessings I'd want to slap on it.

[viral nacelle]

I can’t see me using it much, I prefer the semi auto accurate options

[celest vine]

Another blessing for the collectiob

[spark helm]

like.

damn.

I'm actually low on dockets at this point

imperium pls

imma spin the wheel again. fuck it

[celest vine]

I have more diamantine than dockets

Cause I cant accept the MG1A I have and want crit changed to maniac

[spark helm]

And I have no more dockets.

I'm a fool

[flat pebble]

: )

[spark helm]

All these greys are terrible

bruhv

[spark helm]

i've been had

@_@

[celest vine]

By all accounts its basically good

[flat pebble]

I just have a cope roll

[flat pebble]

i urge you to not touch grass because it would probably just kill it

[celest vine]

I guess my crit chance doesnt look so bad after all

I can still one hit headshot dreg ragers

[old quail]

i spent like 35k too

[celest vine]

Its good

[old quail]

on shit today

[flat pebble]

it helps my exe stance throughput

[desert isle]

What tree works nicely with the new revolver?

[drowsy sluice]

time to see if good

[flat pebble]

you're gonna wish you cropped out that controller button icon

u cant have people knowing that about you that's personal

[celest vine]

So?

[drowsy sluice]

bricked or keep going

[candid tundra]

best blessings for mk3 shovel?

[flat pebble]

... its just a joke

you don't have to hit me with the SO

[hybrid river]

keep going

[celest vine]

The fuck you mean so?

[flat pebble]

SO

[celest vine]

Nuh uh

[serene sage]

and?

[flat pebble]

YUH HUH

[celest vine]

NUH HUH

[flat pebble]

you son of a biscuit eating bulldog

[flat pebble]

well... gl

[sharp ember]

oh nahhh

[hybrid river]

take the blessing but if youre feeling lucky

[sharp ember]

trickshooter for your stickerbook tho

[hybrid river]

go for it

[flat pebble]

i would have to do the last upgrade

i couldnt not

[drowsy sluice]

need more dia :(

[flat pebble]

DIA??

[hybrid river]

maninte

[flat pebble]

manininte

pergante

[hybrid river]

mintamine

[flat pebble]

preganannte

[drowsy sluice]

im poor

[celest vine]

I rolled this yesterday

[untold moth]

As of the most recent patch, I’m experiencing a glitch with the plasma gun. About half the time I get no audio or visual feedback for shooting, just recoil.

[flat pebble]

what diff do u play hot damn

[drowsy sluice]

i just started like a week or 2 ago

[flat pebble]

that explains it

welcome to the cesspit

[elder briar]

can i use this with new revolver fanning attack?

[drowsy sluice]

played mostly 3s until recently when i got a good powersword, now im doing 4s

[flat pebble]

GL progressing out of heresy

[hybrid river]

yes but there are better options

[celest vine]

Should be able to

[flat pebble]

that's when both the real fun starts and also the actual good teams begin

although with the influx the damnation QP is kinda all over the place

[carmine cradle]

yo im not loving the new plasma gun bugs

kinda whack

dont know why they added em tbh

[stark saddle]

what are the blessings for new revolver?

[celest vine]

I have not killed a karnak twin yet

[hybrid river]

yeah it feels like you have ed with the plasma

[flat pebble]

yeah why did they add those bugs

they should have just not added the bugs

[carmine cradle]

fr fr

as a prgrammer im dissapointed in them

[celest vine]

You as am individual can take off survivalist now

[untold moth]

What else are you noticing besides the audio/visual missing?

[carmine cradle]

on a more serious note how the hell did that get past qa

[stark saddle]

they dont have qa

[carmine cradle]

well one bug for the audio, one for the visual

those are 2 separate bugs

[stark saddle]

Theres a reason whenever they release a content patch, they always have to follow up with a balance patch

[astral blade]

Heyo so are those twins easy to deal with?

[carmine cradle]

whack

[celest vine]

They dont really do damage

[carmine cradle]

sometimes

[untold moth]

Do you think they can fix it happening on ripper guns as well? It’s been there since release, maybe sooner

[serene sage]

server has been rough, too

[stark saddle]

Theyre literally shooting in the dark when it comes to balancing. They release their shit first then they balance it, its beyond autistic.

[flat pebble]

ive only seen one and he was a non issue

[carmine cradle]

sometimes they aint

[celest vine]

They sort of troll then fuck off

[flat pebble]

but if they come at a bad time or you dont see them approaching i can see them fucking your team over

[celest vine]

Jumpscare occasionally

[untold moth]

At least the crafting system is generous so you can experiment freely

[astral blade]

What are they like the demon host?

[hybrid river]

at the moment the two to go for appear to be trickshooter and crucian roulette

[flat pebble]

they kinda just showed up

[celest vine]

Scab captain without shield

Literally a 1-1 copy

[flat pebble]

threw little gas bombs

[celest vine]

That too

[serene sage]

are they even hard?

[celest vine]

Bomber and scab captain mixed

[flat pebble]

they're more of a hazard

[serene sage]

i played 2 games and they are just kinda dead lmao

[carmine cradle]

havent killed one yet

[celest vine]

I wished they stayed longer

[serene sage]

like pops in, a minute later dead

[carmine cradle]

also havent team wiped to one yet

[serene sage]

biggest casualty was my teammate toughness

[carmine cradle]

they usually just kinda fuck off

[astral blade]

Can you kill them?

[serene sage]

they almost got through it

[celest vine]

If you work fast

[native citrus]

Still messing with talents Grrrrrr

[celest vine]

Krak doesnt deal damage to them

[naive hatch]

The only time they're really an issue is if you're already struggling to manage a mixed horde and monstro at the same time they decide to come in and troll you.

[celest vine]

Its severely reduced

[flat pebble]

really? i could have sword i did with one last match

oh that's what you mean

[carmine cradle]

i mean i like feeling like i can run all my favorite grenade nodes and still grab a keystone now

which is nice

[hybrid river]

yeah i noticed that it felt terrible

[astral blade]

My col IGA with rakking fire and dumdum should be able to 1 mag them

[carmine cradle]

frag superiority

[astral blade]

If that’s the case

[celest vine]

Its not like normal bosses where krak crowning annihilates bosses

Actuslly have to melee

Shooting does fuck all too

[astral blade]

Ya joking me?

[celest vine]

Thunder hammer does work tho

[carmine cradle]

do they have the stupid gun resist?

[pulsar drift]

The new vet feels great

[flat pebble]

shieldless

[celest vine]

They are reskinned scab captains

[spark helm]

Okay so

[celest vine]

So if you know how those fights go

[spark helm]

These stimms

[flat pebble]

the shield on the captains is the thing that has gun resist

[astral blade]

Well fuck there goes my primary source of damage

[carmine cradle]

yeah?

[modern chasm]

ran into what i think are some issues with the Vet post patch. only played on the new map, Plasma gun issues with visual and audio ques on firing EX stance not highlighting Ragers for sure. Deadshot doesnt seem to be active had way more sway post patch. EX Stance damage didnt seem to be there compared to previous patch. Chainsword did quicker work of Maulers than my bolter

[carmine cradle]

im aware

[flat pebble]

.

[spark helm]

Like yeah they're bad but like...why don't we just flip em? How bad can it get?

[slow garden]

Yo have they talked about fixing the fire bug yet?

[celest vine]

But normal bullets on their unshielded bodies didnt do much to begin with

[carmine cradle]

im aware?

[spark helm]

Look I need ordos.

[atomic zephyr]

ive only had the sword twin and that shit is a fucking jumpscare dawg

[celest vine]

Auric grinding

💀

[flat pebble]

then you knew the answer

[spark helm]

who want some nurgle needles bro?

[flat pebble]

you had all the pieces for the answer

[spark helm]

this 10% ordo game not working out

[celest vine]

I hold onto them

[astral blade]

Just saying my gun is generally my primary source of damage

[celest vine]

The heal one can act as a +1 wound

[spark helm]

These bastards finally got me fucked up on progression resources. I'm crying

[flat pebble]

yeah this is my fav stim

[carmine cradle]

@flat pebble

[celest vine]

Cause it can cure downed wound

[thick rose]

so why are people favoring shovel 3 over 7?

[carmine cradle]

speed and damage are both fun too

[midnight mortar]

I started shooting as soon as I saw them thinking the 50m of space between us would give me ample time to switch.

Oh how wrong I was.

[flat pebble]

@carmine cradle

[celest vine]

Limbsplitter lets you 1 hit crushers

[carmine cradle]

the ability regen speed is... weird?

like on some abilities this is AMAZING

gunlugger go br

[celest vine]

Its busted

[carmine cradle]

on other its... fine?

[celest vine]

Chastise zealots are loving it

[carmine cradle]

like on volley fire your whole thing is never having it on cooldown anyways?

so this is just overkill

[celest vine]

Same woth infiltrator vetd

[carmine cradle]

ud be better off with the speed one

for the reload speed

for more uptime

[naive hatch]

Basically in your face before you could blink huh? Got me flinching IRL for that too lol

[deep fable]

from what?

[flat pebble]

the stimm

[carmine cradle]

from the stim

[celest vine]

Damage is good for gun vets

[deep fable]

combat stim?

[midnight mortar]

I was like "Oh. They're on the stimms. Fuck."

[carmine cradle]

damage is good.

[celest vine]

Lets me 1 hit headshot mutants

[carmine cradle]

always

[atomic zephyr]

mfw playing the new map for the first time and watch some armored gremlin with a power sword anime run across my screen and insta-down the psyker

[carmine cradle]

cant go wrong with more damage

[celest vine]

With an MG1A

[deep fable]

which one

[cinder oar]

Did they change the veteran talent tree again?

[midnight mortar]

A boss I can't bayonet my way out of...

[celest vine]

I did that and I thoughr “the fuck bro this is OP”

Tag a plauge ogryn then damage stim

[buoyant slate]

honestly the plasma-pistol twin's hellish corruption mines are the worst

[celest vine]

Toss your krak

Dead in seconds

[carmine cradle]

THE ONE THAT GIVES ABILITY COOLDOWN??????

BRUH

[atomic zephyr]

i havent run into the plasma twin yet

[carmine cradle]

XD

[vague lintel]

what are people running on mk3 shovel rn

[atomic zephyr]

then again ive only run two missions

[deep fable]

bro its not called that doofus

[vague lintel]

im guessing just like thrust/deci

[carmine cradle]

i dont remember what its called

its not really important either

[south garnet]

I didn't even notice we were fighting one until they were half dead then ran away like a coward and left a smelly fart behind

[atomic zephyr]

it feels like they took the captain, split him into two bosses and buffed him

[buoyant slate]

concentration is the ability cooldown

[celest vine]

All you need is limbsplitter

Thats it really

[vague lintel]

so limbsplitter whatever

[buoyant slate]

also took away his power field

[celest vine]

Carapace too

[south garnet]

limbshitter redeemed

[vague lintel]

perks are just flak/cara or maniac/cara im guessing

[buoyant slate]

it's funny to see the twin show up and see the empty power field bar

[carmine cradle]

uncanny strike looks solid on shovel

[atomic zephyr]

on my second run apparently the zealot had ran ahead and triggered the spawn, and he had to hold her off for a whole minute before we got to him

[celest vine]

Digging toilets with the folding latrine shovel

[carmine cradle]

thats not a small amount of rending

like thats a LOT of rending

[vague lintel]

uncanny was good on old shovel

doubt its bad now

[carmine cradle]

i assume gaining a new stack of the buff resets the old stack like everything else

[south garnet]

good. after the number of mk 5 axes it bricked for me that's the only acceptable penance

[carmine cradle]

so if youre just brainlessly smashing heads and some mf with armor pulls up

now uve got like 120% rending to cave in his skull with

[carmine cradle]

im a frag grenade enjoyer

[buoyant slate]

so what buffs did the non-folding sapper shovel get?

[carmine cradle]

a bunch

more damage

[south garnet]

the patch notes are right there

right

there

[carmine cradle]

ye

read notes

go br

[dusk idol]

pretty sure rending has a cap now though

[celest vine]

I treat the three weapon slots as my way of dealing with each enemy type

[carmine cradle]

but here ya go

[dusk idol]

past a certain point (100%) you're getting diminishing returns

[buoyant slate]

yeeeee

[snow pendant]

going back to my old revolver not being able to shoot through crowds at tagged target is doo doo

[celest vine]

Gun for shooters and elites/specialists

[south garnet]

bless you for spoon feeding the illiterate

[celest vine]

Melee for hordes and maulers

Grenade for bosses

And crushers

[carmine cradle]

im still making them read the pacth notes 😉

[south garnet]

the innumerate are unfortunately much worse off faced with fatshark's math

[buoyant slate]

eh, i read it earlier and forgot THE NUMBERS because i was playing and then went to eat something

[carmine cradle]

this is literally just a ss of the patch notes i had open in a tab

[brisk sedge]

this text channel hurts my head

[carmine cradle]

jesus chist

150 to 500

good lord

[vague lintel]

i didnt see a limbsplitter buff, is it bugged or does it just work well on mk 3 shovel

[normal valve]

Thoughts on the updated tree? Not home so can’t test myself atm

[vague lintel]

or am i blind

[celest vine]

Its a Mk3 shovel thing

It’s uniquely good on it

[vague lintel]

ok cool

[candid tundra]

is this bricked?

[buoyant slate]

yeah even with the attack power and impact getting dunked, the base power boost is so high that it's doing even bigger numbers

[topaz pebble]

Whats the interaction between limbsplitter and mk3

Or are you just using it for the pickaxe mode

[candid tundra]

why yall saluting

[flat pebble]

21 gun salute

[candid tundra]

I genuinely dont know

[carmine cradle]

punch build when?

[celest vine]

Mate we just said what

[flat pebble]

it’s dead son

[candid tundra]

ok what about this

[celest vine]

Extra blessing for the collection

[buoyant slate]

i don't know if it's the punchicus or if it's the followup you get after the punch. if it's the punch then lol, lmao

[midnight mortar]

It already had a cap of 100%.

That hasn't changed.

[buoyant slate]

yeah rending has had a cap of 100%

[carmine cradle]

i really hope its the punch because that would be hilarious

[woeful ibex]

is the new shovel worth it?

[carmine cradle]

vet punch build would be the DUMBEST shit

[flat pebble]

didn’t rending go beyond 100 and provide a 1/4th buff equal to the excess rending

or am i just remembering a dream

[carmine cradle]

yes

[south garnet]

I'm thinking about actually upgrading this piece of shit anyway

[buoyant slate]

because the "extra rending converts to extra damage" bit broke some breakpointing or something so they capped it

[south garnet]

fucking brunt

[carmine cradle]

hence why i think that uncanny strike is probably a really, really solid blessing for the shovels

[flat pebble]

the blessing though, not rending

[buoyant slate]

so we had extra damage on rend above 100% for all of like a patch

[carmine cradle]

im gonna have to test it and see what dumb shit i can get away with

MOSTLY

[flat pebble]

or did they change rending as well

[carmine cradle]

i wonder if because the shovels kinda do 2 hits with their special attacjk

dos the second half of the hit get the rending buff

[midnight mortar]

That's how it's been for a number of patches now.

[carmine cradle]

if soooooo....

[buoyant slate]

they capped rending at 100%

[carmine cradle]

thats probbably prety good

[south garnet]

rending has been nerfed both on pistols themselves and on hand cannon, and max rending has been capped to 100% which basically changes nothing

[flat pebble]

that’s what i thought

[buoyant slate]

or something

[midnight mortar]

It capped at 100% with 1/4 of the damage after that since Crab was still posting.

[carmine cradle]

rip crab

o7

[buoyant slate]

okay so the 1/4th still exists?

[carmine cradle]

what happened to him?

[languid escarp]

this guy is doubling down on his stupidity 🥹

[carmine cradle]

where did crab go?

[flat pebble]

did they change max rending or did they just change those blessings

[spark helm]

So I fuck with falter and deadly accurate when I have the chance on la infantry las. I'm not really looking for a crit build but what else do people that actually use the gun fuck with that's passable. Trying to build up for aurics soon and I'm almost there but some of my blessing selections are...eh./

[topaz pebble]

If its close, push it

If its far, just shoot it

[spark helm]

I never really burned la's so I never invested in the blessing collection.

[languid escarp]

it is close to me but far for him

I wouldnt know he would shoot it

[topaz pebble]

Then hes dumb lmao

[languid escarp]

but he saw me standing near it

and shoot it anyway

[carmine cradle]

can someone test if the second half of the special attack on the shovel gets the rending from uncanny strike?

[languid escarp]

proceed to argue

[flat pebble]

“bro learned the easiest, safest way of dealing with bursters and wanted to keep using it lol”

[celest vine]

Special needs

[topaz pebble]

My favorite are the people who walk up to a poxwalker who's dropped from the ceiling

[celest vine]

♿

[spark helm]

Yes?

[buoyant slate]

someone mentioned like last week that max rending got capped at 100, and then this patch they lowered handcannon rending percentage because you would hit the 100% cap with just handcannon 2 or somthing

[celest vine]

Just shoot those ones

[midnight mortar]

Recommend him for promotion to the special forces.

[topaz pebble]

Exactly

Yet they walk up, wait for them to get up, then shove

[snow pendant]

i just had a game where the same happen to me , i am already at the direction the burster coming ready to push , then a stupid ass ogryn come and smack it with his shield , i got only 1 bar of hp left

[spark helm]

Fuck that. Full send. melee killing it and buffering infiltrate to cancel the toughness dmg

[topaz pebble]

I mean, guess they at least got honor

[spark helm]

you can't stop me

[flat pebble]

imo if you’re walking toward a burster that’s your responsibility now

[spark helm]

I'll do it again.

[topaz pebble]

Letting the burster get up

[flat pebble]

if you’re in between me and it i don’t care what you do but it’s not my responsibility anymore

[topaz pebble]

So how we feel about new tree

I actually dont feel like im pulling out teeth making builds

[carmine cradle]

good

[native citrus]

Limbpslitter on mk3 eh? Testing now

[spark helm]

[languid escarp]

I had a Zealot using Fury of the Faithful into a burster once

[carmine cradle]

can take my favorite grenade perks and a keystone now

[serene sage]

OP

[carmine cradle]

which is pog\

[languid escarp]

... while I'm also in melee

[spark helm]

my ideas are getting really sexy for some builds I have in the works.

[languid escarp]

it's funny so I forgave him for that

[topaz pebble]

Now that vet tree isnt dogshit, mk6 might need some toning down

[junior needle]

So I fuck with falter
Deadly not that
and deadly accurate
Definitely not in combination with that. Now that infernus no longer works with onslaught your options are limited. There's the classic deadly accurate/headhunter, as well as ghost and something else for deadshot synergy.

[snow pendant]

seen worse zealot did the same thing but into a slug and he got vored

i didnt even bother to use grenade to bust him out

[buoyant slate]

so did nodes that got removed get rolled into another node or what were the exact changes to the tree this time?

[topaz pebble]

Enemy targetting gets fucky ok

[meager trench]

Off a bridge!

[celest vine]

This works very well now

[languid escarp]

you only need to know one thing, Montrosity/Ogryn and Elite damage nodes are stackable again

[celest vine]

Gotta get deadshot

[spark helm]

Goddamn i don't want to.

[topaz pebble]

WHy arent you taking the 8 stacks node

[meager trench]

I honestly don't care for the gun

[spark helm]

If I get the chance I'll try it.

i just hate setting up crit builds.

[languid escarp]

8 stacks node not that good tbh

[celest vine]

Gotta get headbunter then

Running both every other shot is a crit

[topaz pebble]

8 stacks of redirect fire is free damage

[languid escarp]

can be useful when fighting bosses but otherwise you will be spamming it at less than 8 stacks

[topaz pebble]

I can legit 1 tap a crusher with a mk6 crit

No

Redirect fire

[languid escarp]

most of the time

[celest vine]

But +40% toughness and stamina tho

[snow pendant]

u bet i would

[topaz pebble]

Stacks to the max focus fire stacks

[snow pendant]

charge into a slug tbh idm that just means the slug is now safe for approach cuz the zealot got a vored fetish

[topaz pebble]

Like, you get perma 12% or so damage with 8 stacks of redirect fire

[meager trench]

8 stacks ise.not always useful since you can call new targets out faster then it recharges. But against certain targets like mini bosses the extra damage is very noce

[topaz pebble]

No

Not focus fire

The node redirect fire

Your redirect fire stacks goes as high as your max focus fire stacks

[meager trench]

So I think it's an optional choice

[celest vine]

It is

Having the toughness and stamina on marked target kill is a must

[languid escarp]

Mathematically impossible, 8 stacks need to charge for 16 seconds while the damage buff only last 10 or something

[topaz pebble]

Like am I not wording this in a way yall understand? Focus fire stacks are not redirect fire stacks

[celest vine]

Killing will reset the clokc

[buoyant slate]

so you can kill two focus fire things and redirect'll stack both the used stacks up to the max of your focus fire stacks or it will always apply max redirect stacks?

[celest vine]

With 12% damage

[languid escarp]

Reset at max stacks?

[topaz pebble]

It adds your focus fire stacks

[celest vine]

Yes

[buoyant slate]

aah

[atomic zephyr]

is the new chainaxe any good?
hell, is the old chainaxe any good now?

[languid escarp]

Hmm

[celest vine]

Thats how it works

[topaz pebble]

Its permanent 12% damage

[buoyant slate]

so it's like soulfire

[celest vine]

Almost

[flat pebble]

cement tried so hard for so long

and it finally clicked

we love to see it

[celest vine]

If you keep killing marked targets it effectively is

[spark helm]

I was planning on keeping an eye out for it. falter been doing a lot for me as a filler stand-in for what I'm using but that's probably just the talent spread taking care of the rest before my input with solid play. definitely not something that's as good with what I want to do though.

to this day I hate deadshot.

[topaz pebble]

Run 1 +3 stam curio with stam regen

Much more managable

[spark helm]

let me pout

[celest vine]

Middke keystone with left node compensates massively

[atomic zephyr]

wait, theres a new chainsword?

[topaz pebble]

Yes

Its really solid

[spark helm]

yeah exactly. shit is wild

[flat pebble]

yes his name is gerard

he hangs

[topaz pebble]

Lights are cleaving, heavy single target

[crisp orchid]

deadshot would be perfectly ok if marksman focus gave bonus stam regen or had a modifier as such

[celest vine]

40% toughness and stamina for killing the guy you we’re already shooting at

[atomic zephyr]

is gerard a good weapon?

[narrow laurel]

mk X laspistol any good? anyone has tried it out yet

[celest vine]

Big boolet

[atomic zephyr]

i think its pretty neat

[spark helm]

and the final tiers of middle tree are what I'm really there for for my counterfire builds.

[atomic zephyr]

i like it

[topaz pebble]

All the new weapons are good

[flat pebble]

he’s got ur back when u need him to

[topaz pebble]

Havent tried ogryn

[meager trench]

New chainsawed,chain axe,2 new shovels,new las pistol and new revolver

[topaz pebble]

But all shovels, chain weapons, and guns are very solid

[atomic zephyr]

based. what about his bros the chainaxes?

[celest vine]

Lasguns dont need survivalist for ammo now

[flat pebble]

i always tell people when i’m playing ogryn my rock’s name is gerard

[topaz pebble]

Chainaxes are usable now

[buoyant slate]

basically whenever you cash out a focus fire stack on killing a focus target, redirect will add a stack to it's buff, and redirect's max stacks is the same number as your max focus fire stacks. so kill a target you put 1, a target you put 2 and a target you put 5 focus stacks on, redirect will go up to eight

[flat pebble]

they usually say hi gerard back

[celest vine]

Run extra ammo and shock trooper

[topaz pebble]

Praise the Emperor

[celest vine]

Good for the game

[atomic zephyr]

i knew about the other stuff i just missed the sword

[spark helm]

make everything orange, then make one yellow, then finally be able to take the extra--

[flat pebble]

both feel good

[crude fiber]

new chainax can 1 hit crushers with a god role

[spark helm]

fuck WAIT YOU'RE RIGHT

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[buoyant slate]

if you kill another target with a focus stack redirect will hit the max of eight because you have that node, and refresh its stacks

[flat pebble]

second is more single target focuses but the lights work on hordes without sticking

[buoyant slate]

gotcha

[meager trench]

Oh yeah new regular sword too xd

[celest vine]

Deadshot means less ammo use too

[spark helm]

it's waystalker all the way down

I'm irredeemable

[celest vine]

5 percent damage doesnt seem like much

[flat pebble]

the old chaxe feels solidly usable now from a statistics perspective, your reaction to the weapon feel will probably remain whatever it is

[celest vine]

It does help if you take the ranged damage nodes

[spark helm]

nah it adds up

[celest vine]

Free damage

[topaz pebble]

The fact that it actually kills is nice

[celest vine]

[atomic zephyr]

which one is better as a general purpose weapon? im trying to replace my power sword cause its kinda boring

[south garnet]

new pistol is fun even though brunt fucked me and hadron made it even worse

[spark helm]

I'll go fire team to see how it goes for a few runs.

[flat pebble]

probably the old one

[south garnet]

eugh

[celest vine]

MG1A with extra ammo has 1000 total ammo

[flat pebble]

if you chain heavies you can deal with hordes and lights are for single target and smaller packs. the revved heavy does a lot

[celest vine]

[atomic zephyr]

i see

[topaz pebble]

Usable, would trade flak for maniac

Or carapace

[meager trench]

I like the new chain axe, one shot a ogryn mace guy now with it

[celest vine]

Like youre good without survivalist

[crude fiber]

been liking the new one but old is probably better for hoard clear

[south garnet]

not a bad idea

[bleak dirge]

This hurts me so much, this is literally me, yes this is like looking into a mirror

[flat pebble]

one of the chaxe zealots who Knows Chaxes recommends headtaker slaughterer for the old chaxe and thrust+slaughterer/headtaker for the new

[topaz pebble]

New revolver is dumb fun, and really solid

Still 1 taps most enemies

[atomic zephyr]

i see thanks for the help

im so glad all the chain weapons are viable now

[flat pebble]

the new evis looks REALLY fun

i wanna get a good one of it

[atomic zephyr]

i have an incredible eviscerator roll

can confirm

bruh

[flat pebble]

lol

[atomic zephyr]

actually

that's salvageable

[flat pebble]

it is, yeah

[snow pendant]

my experience with it so far , pain , i cant kill a target behind even a horde with it

[flat pebble]

groaners to flak and bloodletter to headtaker or slaughterer

[atomic zephyr]

headtaker or slaughterer?

[flat pebble]

i have a very similar roll

[atomic zephyr]

hrmmm

[flat pebble]

i have slaughterer and i like it

[atomic zephyr]

alr ill give it a swing

(literally)

[snow pendant]

headtaker on hit , slaugtherer on kill

1 u can keep stacking on ogryn or monsters

[flat pebble]

this is the one i was just testing out

[snow pendant]

other can only stack if u kill

[atomic zephyr]

spicy

[snow pendant]

i usually go for headtaker

[flat pebble]

we know how it works thx

[atomic zephyr]

oh yeah i know the difference between them i was just wondering which one to use

ill just try slaughterer, thrust should do for damage on big targets

[flat pebble]

i might actually be able to hit the crusher OHK with thrust 4 max stacks and carapace

[snow pendant]

i definitely take headtaker for the ease to stack

[flat pebble]

i think the higher peak on slaughterer helps the chaxe

[snow pendant]

slaughterer might let u 2 shot or 1 shot crusher with max stacks on the new shovel

[spark helm]

I'm too greedy atm. switched my talent spread like three times. Comes down to me deciding whether or not I'm actually taking the shredder nades for malestrom damnation stuff. tends to help with me just having something extra to clear hordes while clapping up elites and specials. I can use my psword for the carapace boys.

[flat pebble]

shovel? slaughterer?

[celest vine]

Try my build

[snow pendant]

the flipping shovel

[spark helm]

the only time where I'm still messing with survivalist for the numbers game

[celest vine]

Its built around using the MG1A

[flat pebble]

its not a shovel blessing

[spark helm]

the one your posted earlier?

[celest vine]

Yes

Power sword for horde clearing backup

I run a wound, 17 toughness and 20 health

All of them have +5 health and toughness

Stamina regen too

[spark helm]

I can see it. gonna make a counterfire spin on it and slant a little more in gunplay toughness gen.

[celest vine]

The new health stim acts as a +1 wound

[wet moon]

FYI they fixed executor and it’s amazing on the new knife. 2 shots a crusher with uncanny despite having less finesse than the mk3

[spark helm]

but that elite and monster bonus dmg...

[celest vine]

Cause it clears corruption from downs too

[spark helm]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

eh fuck it I'll copy it.

[wet moon]

the day we get a guardsman helmet with a visor is the day we win

[celest vine]

Shout is good too for counter fire

[spark helm]

done something similar before but couldn't spread the points like that last patch.

[wet moon]

seriously do not sleep on this knifechads

[celest vine]

Knock down all melee enemies to let you get s clean shot on that sniper

[languid escarp]

can be +2 wounds sometimes

[fervent quiver]

Holy crap the skill tree

this is actually insane

[celest vine]

Or the gunner

[languid escarp]

kinda yeah

[spark helm]

kerllian-legolas propaganda. I'll threa the needle. Do it all the time.

I told you: i'm here to style.

[languid escarp]

now you can have all 3 modifiers

[stark saddle]

What about handcannon???!!

[celest vine]

Clowing on incompetent traitors is why this fame exist

[languid escarp]

as well as montrosity + elite damage nodes

in other words

a truck load of damage

[flat pebble]

you could do crucian handcannon

[languid escarp]

on bosses

[flat pebble]

its not really an anti armor weapon

[topaz pebble]

New revolver?

[celest vine]

My MG1A can 1 hit headshot dreg ragers now

[topaz pebble]

Still 2 taps crushers if you got the correct setup

[spark helm]

[flat pebble]

yeah

[celest vine]

[fervent quiver]

does revolver still anti armor shit?

[celest vine]

Fucking busted

No exe stance

[topaz pebble]

Like, its no longer 1 tapping crushers, thank fuck

[celest vine]

No spit

Just headshot

[spark helm]

I like exe stance purely for the feel of it.

Just feels good.

[celest vine]

WATCH LEARN REPEAT GOT IT?

[flat pebble]

to me it still feels like the real vet ult

[topaz pebble]

But I have a crucian handcannon, but i would've prefered handcannon and the blessing that gives 20% crit off melee kill

[spark helm]

that and I just, do not want shooters to exist during damnation/aurics.

[flat pebble]

point blank

[topaz pebble]

But hadron spit on my hard bought revolver

[torpid fractal]

What do we like on shovels for blessings?

[spark helm]

I like all of them for the most part really because of my bias to the class but I legit have been pushing myself so hard to reject voice of command.

[snow pendant]

the new and old dagger ?

[flat pebble]

i havent gotten a single new weapon yet lol

[serene bough]

uncanny + decimator

[torpid fractal]

I really know nothing about them but have this

[fervent quiver]

I'm able to get bring it down and rending strikes with marksman

wtf

[topaz pebble]

Yeah, with wep spec, point blank, and deadshot you basically get a guaranteed crit off the first shot

[flat pebble]

im totally out of ordos

[serene bough]

but tbh with the new shovels idk whether or not to take hammerblow

[fervent quiver]

this is kinda insane

[wet moon]

haven’t tested old dagger but almost certainly. Uncanny/Executor could be the new Uncanny/Mercy Killer for vets without spending the point on Serrated Blade

[fervent quiver]

there's way too many options

[flat pebble]

this is salvageable. switch crit chance to flak and hammerblow to uncanny

[snow pendant]

what perks and blessing

[celest vine]

You can go unorthodox and run infiltrate

Sneaky headshot

[queen mason]

Why did they nerf it ? I’ve been using it exclusively for a very long time

[stark saddle]

How hard is it to headshot with the fanfire?

[serene bough]

i prefer inflitrate to VoC

[stark saddle]

is it inaccurate?

[torpid fractal]

thanks!

[topaz pebble]

Cause laspistol was dumb

[flat pebble]

idk havent used it yet

[flat pebble]

yep! just remember to use the push attack on elites because its super strong

[topaz pebble]

Not very hard, hitbox is fucking huge

[celest vine]

My build has always been heavy infantry

Hit hard, take hit

[flat pebble]

yeah the HC shoots tangerines according to the bullet magnetism

its like a d2 hand cannon

[topaz pebble]

Last word flashbacks

[flat pebble]

dont worry its dead now

its been dead for a long time

[terse idol]

They really do fill their own niche to be faiir

[queen mason]

Thank you for the serious answer

[snow pendant]

what is that helbore lasgun change ?

[flat pebble]

shout is just too good to not use for my general purpose builds to survive pugs

[topaz pebble]

Nothing

[flat pebble]

and honestly i don't really like infiltrate

[topaz pebble]

Literally useless change

[serene bough]

yeah the only one i find useless is exe stancce

[flat pebble]

the new helbore thing takes SO long to work its functionally useless

[topaz pebble]

If you held down charge long enough for the shot to auto fire, itll now charge if you keep holding

Like, ???

[snow pendant]

i thought it means it will auto fire if ur shot is charge then repeat but nah

[serene bough]

i like moving quick and sneaky

[spark helm]

@celest vine thinking of swapping what I got in the perks for specialist and idk...something not running crit but I should probably do it for the jump in crit chance even if it';s a little bit huh?

[flat pebble]

but it does secure max surg stacks every time if you're using it

[native citrus]

This

[spark helm]

@celest vine

[snow pendant]

is that the folding shovel ?

[spark helm]

see what I mean?

[wet moon]

Uncanny/Executor. theoretically without +carapace and any perks/ talents it’s a 4shot if all hits crit. Psyker main friend will be texting on vet with Precision Strikes + Bring it Down + Elite Dmg. will keep updated.

[flat pebble]

doesnt between the eyes combo with deadshot and the dodged ranged attacks give you stamina talent?

[fervent quiver]

...I'm kinda lost on what to do with my vet trees now

holy shit there's too much

[wet moon]

ball out. free dmg on anything

[spark helm]

this is a non-right tree setup.

[serene sage]

just grab everything you want

no it's actually possible to get what you want and more lol

[fervent quiver]

the fact that there's

there's so much

[wet moon]

friend got a good knife on vet testing rn

[fervent quiver]

I had like 3 points remaining

[serene sage]

I have everything I want for my build and 4 extra points lmaop

[fervent quiver]

after bottoming out two trees

wtf

[flat pebble]

i mean it's 2 talent points for a stamina loop for deadshot

assuming you're still hitting middle

[topaz pebble]

Vet so conditioned that a semi sensible tree seems like its too much

[spark helm]

fair point

[narrow laurel]

cant wait for hadron to fuck this one over

[wet moon]

running deadshot + duck and dive with a stripped down gun is so funny

[serene sage]

nah bro we are legit OP af

[topaz pebble]

Its a sensible tree, the weapons we have are OP

Mk6 needs to be shot

[flat pebble]

i wouldnt ever run it but i like seeing the clips

[gusty bison]

Melee vet melee vet melee vet

[flat pebble]

woooosh

[serene sage]

hardwood laminate hardwood laminate hardwood laminate hardwood laminate

[wet moon]

I use it on my stealth vet with a columnus and it’s HILARIOUS

actually a super fun build, and now since i have extra points i can get more talents to make it wayyy more viable

[fervent quiver]

so there's no point to running marksmen anymore

[gusty bison]

Melee vet

[fervent quiver]

I can just taking everything on left tree and freely take tags

that's... amazing

[gritty mirage]

lads i found out why my game was crashing

[gusty bison]

Imagine not taking right tree in this economy

[fervent quiver]

mods?

[gritty mirage]

it seems rtx for some ppl recent patches was crashing ppl

[spark helm]

actually yeah I just swapped a couple things around to still have some of the talents I wanted to experiment from dude's tree setup.

[flat pebble]

well why dont you post a clip about it then

[gritty mirage]

i turned rtx off and game works now. LOL.

[wet moon]

@flat pebble it’s this build

[flat pebble]

(and now i watch as my master plan unfolds)

[wet moon]

i have

it’s that one where i melt the crusher

[dusk idol]

no shot

[gritty mirage]

it was so dumb

[flat pebble]

oh i saw that when you posted it earlier

[gritty mirage]

game works now lol

[dusk idol]

i turned mine off and it still is buggy as hell

[flat pebble]

i meant goofy tanking ranged shot stuff

[wet moon]

i posted a twitter clip of it one sec

[wet moon]

https://x.com/sharkmoder/status/1729475456309870592?s=46&t=8xCVA0rff4_Ty3CwCOcpUA

[gusty bison]

Ngl with the new tree. You'd be mad not to pick up the melee traits

[wet moon]

this talent tree is mostly outdated but

[gusty bison]

Its so cheap and good and fit in like every build

[spark helm]

I got headhunter 2 and can just swap out uh, the sprint efficiency with crit chance I guess?

[flat pebble]

hehehehohohohehehehe

[queen mason]

How does surgical work with the new volver? Is fanning considered aiming ?

[serene sage]

you guys have GPU powerful enough for RT?

[wet moon]

it is actually such a fun Vet build i highly recommend. i can send you a rundown when i’m home if you want it

[spark helm]

I'm pretty good with my gunplay in most cases so I never care to worry about suppression

[flat pebble]

i have a 3070ti and i still look at RTX like it's not even an option lol

[gritty mirage]

it was fine until patch 15

then game started crashing me non stop

[serene sage]

ikr, what kind of NASA computer do you have to play this game with RT on lmao

[gusty bison]

A100 work station

Duh

[dusk idol]

just a 4070ti

[flat pebble]

i used to run RTX global illumination at low but i was like i'd like my 10 reduced FPS its just not worth it

[serene sage]

you use RT though?

[flat pebble]

this game already looks excellent with high normal settings at 1440p

[dusk idol]

yeah up until like two weeks ago

[flat pebble]

sure why not i might learn something

[plucky agate]

when the gods like you but not THAT much

[serene sage]

damn, I have AMD so I don't dare touching RT, ever

[dusk idol]

honestly i didn't notice that drastic a shift in quality after turning it off

RT is nice but not needed

[fervent quiver]

Change that wording before you get stoned

[wet moon]

veteran gamers: Uncanny/Executor on the new knife may be the play. 3shots crushers without crits using Precision Strikes/Bring it Down/Elite dmg. with crits, a really high stat knife and higher stacks of rending could easily 2 shot

they fixed executor, degrades on a timer now and works on push attacks

[flat pebble]

there's the god of mars and the god emperor

[fervent quiver]

We only accept the Emperor

[serene sage]

where should the last point goes?

[crisp bronze]

Anyone else loving the newly buffed Graia Braced Auto? So much ammo. A true bullet hose that isn't just a pea shooter either. Turns out a damage buff was all it needed. Been enjoying it so far.

[serene sage]

it's absurd that we have free points now

[flat pebble]

im reading eisenhorn rn and people are okay with saying both of those

[fervent quiver]

big shut

[flat pebble]

adeptus mechanicus throws a whole wrench in things

[gusty bison]

What gun

[flat pebble]

because they're so necessary to the imperium but have the whole semi heresy thing going on

[serene sage]

Bolter

[dusk idol]

you've been living in pain for so long, it feels like heaven without the agony now

[serene sage]

I tried Target Down!

I'm not impressed

[gusty bison]

Wait ur not running deadshot on a bolter?

[serene sage]

not needed

[plucky agate]

If this is the emperor's fault then,

[serene sage]

I already one shot gunners

without crit

[topaz pebble]

Get him lads

[gusty bison]

Can u bodyshot gunners

[serene sage]

no, head

[dusk idol]

you really don't need deadshot for bolter, its already strong enough

[gusty bison]

Or are u going for the head

Hum

[serene sage]

i'm thinking volley adept

for the reload speed

[gusty bison]

Ngl bolter's main call to fame is its bodyshot

[serene sage]

it's both

[tall torrent]

Stripped down does that for u
One of the best blessings for IAGs

[wet moon]

i mean shout is fine for bolter but not running exe stance seems a lil silly. how else are you going to kill a plague ogryn in a single mag?

[flat pebble]

people never seem to run it but i like catch a breath because it's like loner except its not a choice that comes at the direct expense of my team

[dusk idol]

just being able to run double reload speed on bolter feels... oh so good

i love it

[snow pendant]

i find headshot much easier with the heavy pistol

[serene sage]

i played bolter body shot last patch when Determined weasn't an option

now with Determined I can reliably hits heads now

[drowsy sluice]

bricked?

[flat pebble]

oh i didnt even realize there was no exe stance

[snow pendant]

without exe stance follow up shot is ass

[serene sage]

i can't tell if you are being facetious

[spare wolf]

Bolter recon las buff where fatarse fish

[wet moon]

i’m dead set serious

[dusk idol]

infested to whatever you want and barrage to hand cannon and it'll still be good

[south garnet]

PLANT YER FEET'N DRAW, PARDNER

[versed merlin]

Yo has anyone cooked up a new weapons specialist build yet?

[flat pebble]

exe stance does actually make bolter feel really good

[gusty bison]

My bolter build kinda just rips out the mid tree and goes right instead

[wet moon]

https://x.com/sharkmoder/status/1732180863750996473?s=46&t=8xCVA0rff4_Ty3CwCOcpUA

you tell me

[topaz pebble]

No, terrifying with crucian or point blank, infested with maniac

[dusk idol]

fill yer hands you sunnavabitch

[mystic belfry]

Holy crap this tree looks so much better ngl

[serene sage]

I know what the Bolter is capable of

[wet moon]

just sayin lol

[drowsy sluice]

ive received two different answers on perks

[native citrus]

YES! Mk3 with limbsplitter and uncanny v4

[serene sage]

I don't care about best case scenario with perfect 5 stacks Pinning Fire and Exec Stance 15 headshots

all of the OMG I one mag bosses are disingenuous

[wet moon]

Limbsplitter is fun and all but Skullcrusher/Uncanny is objectively better across the board besides crushers. skullcrusher gives you +40% dmg minimum after the special heavy for a follow up heavy attack to kill the crusher. can even push hordes/shout to proc skullcrusher on others

[dusk idol]

replace infested and terr barrage, i say handcannon instead of barrage because revolver has a pretty good crit chance and if you use deadshot (which you should) its like 50% crit

[gusty bison]

Also tbh this build wants to take born leader

[dusk idol]

you can pump up your crit chance with crucian if you'd like but personally i like being able to kill armour with some lucky crits

[gusty bison]

Rather than the ability booster

[serene sage]

I'm taking Volley Adept

[gusty bison]

U rotate 1 talent over

[serene sage]

No I have a chance to escape Born Leader

[gusty bison]

Its net 0

[serene sage]

I am NOT taking that shitshow of a talent

my team can go eat shit

[flat pebble]

make sure to get the 10% toughness replenishment over confirmed kill

[dusk idol]

didn't they fix it so it does supply allies with toughness now

[gusty bison]

Also ye Target Down > Confirmed Kill

[narrow laurel]

how do i fix the perks on this one?

[topaz pebble]

Weakspot for maniac

[serene sage]

it is better now with the bug fix, still not taking it

[dusk idol]

weakspot to damage and sustained to crit (if you want to lean into rending)

[flat pebble]

yeah honestly no thanks though

[serene sage]

Confirmed Kills is better because Toughness overtime is better and it synergies better with Iron Will

[gusty bison]

Honestly I would go Out For Blood over Confirmed Kill tbh

[south garnet]

hrm

[narrow laurel]

crucian?

[dusk idol]

thats what i would go personally

[serene sage]

maybe that over Exhil?

but I think in the end ill just take Volley Adept and call it a day

[south garnet]

dunno what to change on this shovel

[gusty bison]

The main danger of this build I see is it kinda just has nothing going for it in melee

[dusk idol]

take a swing to uncanny?

[gusty bison]

Like at all

[serene sage]

shout?

[flat pebble]

yeah i think that's the best bet

[gusty bison]

Yea thats it

[south garnet]

probably, that or limbsplitter

[flat pebble]

yeah grwar that or limbsplitter

[gusty bison]

But bolter isnt something ur gonna have out 24/7

[umbral scaffold]

is it over for me

[dusk idol]

its looking rough on your blessings

[flat pebble]

crit damage to maniacs terrifying to crucian

sorry not crucian

[dusk idol]

hand cannon

[gusty bison]

OFB makes melee in hordes pretty comfy

[flat pebble]

yeah that or trickshooter

[dusk idol]

you can use the point blank with agile engagement aand have some synergy

but it's not the best crit blessing

[finite imp]

Perfectly usable gun

[drowsy kayak]

i would kill to have that revolver

[fathom edge]

well i guess thatll work

[gusty bison]

8.5% toughness back per poxy helps a lot when u get a wallop

[dusk idol]

wait look at this POS revolver I got last night

[finite imp]

People need to stop ONLY wanting revolvers that one shot bosses

[serene sage]

yeah I agree
but I'm too much of a CK clutcher

[sudden dome]

Ive got a problem with pinning fire on the bolt gun, I only get power if things are staggered but I keep turning things into a fine mist. Any way to fix that

[flat pebble]

are you -2 dodges on this?

[gusty bison]

Turn things into a fine mist then shoot someone else

[flat pebble]

you're gonna feel like you're wearing cinderblock shoes

[gusty bison]

PF works between targets

[fathom edge]

-1

[flat pebble]

that's better but you're gonna feel slow asf

[finite imp]

Ouch

[dusk idol]

the stats were so good

[flat pebble]

still, hilariously good other stats

[dusk idol]

crying

[finite imp]

What I would give for handcannon 4 tho

[flat pebble]

i grinded for so long for a good hc

[fervent quiver]

my ass got lucky with a melk handcannon 4

[finite imp]

I'm still fucking grinding

[dusk idol]

honestly i just stopped thinking about getting blessings

[finite imp]

Melk might be my savior

[dusk idol]

i tap and tap and pull whatever i get off

[fathom edge]

any good? .18x damage loss from first target

[dusk idol]

until eventually i just go back and have a ton

[fervent quiver]

got it on my psyker

ported it straight to vet

[flat pebble]

i got a good hc on my zealot and i have no interest doing it again for my vet so i havent

[finite imp]

How

[gusty bison]

@serene sage heres my bolter build, for reference

[fervent quiver]

earned blessing

[flat pebble]

god emperor hooked it up after a match for me

[finite imp]

That's shared?

[topaz pebble]

Yes

[serene sage]

that's p cool ill check it out at some point

[fervent quiver]

luckily yes

[finite imp]

Neat

[topaz pebble]

Unless you have an Ogryn

In which case, back to the mines with you

[finite imp]

The emperor always gives me dogshit

Bro gives me a 302

Dude

[topaz pebble]

You're not praying to the big E hard enough

[flat pebble]

so far i think it has literally been my one good example of a post match reward

[finite imp]

What a cock slap

[gusty bison]

Basically u get a really good melee to go with the bolter.

If u drop deadshot combo u can make it to iron will in the mid tree

[topaz pebble]

You're not faithful enough

[fathom edge]

the big men yearn for the mines

[finite imp]

I sleepy between the crundle and the taint of the empra

I'm faithful af

[flat pebble]

grundle?

crundle?

[finite imp]

Big e works 247 around the clock devising the worst weapon imaginable to give me

[gloomy kestrel]

big e hands my vet nothing but atrox axes

[mortal horizon]

is the new shovel good? ps6 still better or?

[finite imp]

The new shovel is getting nerfed

That's how good it is

[fathom edge]

"i cast a fliker of my attention to a trillion trillion souls every second, such is the nature of a god"

[mortal horizon]

ill build it if its fun and viable, but hows it stack up against like rashad, ps6, ps3, the 'meta' choices

[mortal horizon]

how?

[gusty bison]

Something like this might ne more up your alley

[mystic belfry]

Does deadshot work with the new revolver?

[dusk idol]

yes

[mystic belfry]

Oh my

[finite imp]

I ain't a dev idk how but they're deff gonna make it harder to one shot a crushed

[topaz pebble]

Deadshot, point blank, wep spec

[finite imp]

Pew oew

[topaz pebble]

Its amazing with those

[mortal horizon]

oh you can 1 shot them? lol any particular setup you need?

[finite imp]

Wait is point blank a blessing

[mystic belfry]

Idk about weapon specalist if I could get ogry/boss damage + Mark talent 🤔

[finite imp]

No idea I'm a knife vet

[topaz pebble]

20% crit after a melee kill for your ranged weapon

[finite imp]

Ah yes I have that kne

[topaz pebble]

I just like wep spec and it's 33% crit for first bullet

[wet moon]

friend on potato PC tested Uncanny/Executor on new knife. left is unstacked, right is stacked with every possible buff (bring it down, exe stance, precision strikes, elite dmg, desperado etc)

[tall torrent]

U tried the new knife yet?

I kinda prefer new knife’s moveset

[finite imp]

Of course I have motherfucker

Same here

[topaz pebble]

The fuck fish eyed view is this

[wet moon]

i HATE how she cranks her FOV

it’s so fucked

[mystic belfry]

I can't see myself giving up knife stab

[finite imp]

Fish can play games too

[finite imp]

Stab us there my boy

[topaz pebble]

That FoV is actually cursed

[finite imp]

Block strike is a stab

[wet moon]

push attack stab, also heavy 3 is a stab

[serene sage]

I'm specist, I think they shouldn'tbe able to

[finite imp]

Stab is also heavy attack 3

https://tenor.com/view/raise-eyebrow-sexy-flirt-gif-6116268

[south garnet]

goddamn the mk 3 shovel is sick

[finite imp]

I too am racist against fish

[south garnet]

I'm running that plus new pistol and it's something else

[atomic zephyr]

is it a me issue or is the new pistol tough to use with VoC?

[finite imp]

Fry em up

[atomic zephyr]

probably a me issue lol