veteran-class

[dusk idol]

but keep in mind onslaught is on single target, and bolter has a blast radius

[upbeat mortar]

It's finally complete!

[empty creek]

please verify equipped items

[half ginkgo]

ah, ok. guess also deadshot right?

[tiny summit]

Mk3 I sleep

[candid tundra]

I get what you're saying, still though, definition is flexible

[humble nova]

Does the blast not apply brittleness to secondary targets? If not that definitely sucks

[gentle maple]

What do they mean "please verify"?

[sharp tinsel]

honk shoo mimimimi

[flat pebble]

i’m not sure sure you need it, the thing is that the bolter recoil settling gives you a lot of time for stacks to naturally accrue

[empty creek]

nice godroll

[sharp tinsel]

[humble nova]

Click in, make dot go away

[little path]

My main problem with the left keystone is

[empty creek]

i would take them off & on again, IDFK

[dusk idol]

it’s only for continuous attacks on a single target (onslaught)

[flat pebble]

also running out of stam on a bolter often sounds like death

[still flare]

What do people think about chain axe stuff now?

[empty creek]

its ultimately not ur problem, that's a dev issue

[little path]

It's focused on headshots

[candid tundra]

Lack of versatility, lack of toughness/survivability, keystone has a movement restriction

[sinful flax]

What is "Close Damage" ???
Does it apply to Ranged Damage ???

[candid tundra]

^^^

It should be ranged dmg

Not headshot

[little path]

and you can honestly just shoot most enemies in the chest and still kill

[gentle maple]

Clicked it, dot doesnt dissapear

[candid tundra]

Yeah

[obtuse dawn]

They fixed rampage 😦

[empty creek]

close damage is like 5meters & in

[humble nova]

Delete the loadout

[little path]

1 headshot will kill basically anything

[dusk idol]

about time

[empty creek]

the braced autoguns have close modifiers

[little path]

doing even more damage to 1 shot someone even harder is eh

[candid tundra]

Like @little path I say this lots, right tree is mostly melee oriented, middle is a mix for support, and left is ranged: if you play left and use your gun 90% of the time, the game should provide you with buffs that allow that to be viable

Left tree should be viable

On its own

[sinful flax]

Does it increase Ranged damage near 5 meter too?

[candid tundra]

As is right and middle

[karmic musk]

Lmao is it just me or does the old Chainaxe horde clear better than the new one

Those lights are so wimpy

[humble nova]

Well with the more vertical hits (according to the release notes) that makes sense

[candid tundra]

I want a dual chainaxe weapon like kerillian's dual swords

[little path]

I sometimes consider not even invensting in any keystones

[candid tundra]

Would be so badass

[karmic musk]

The new chainaxe lights are terrible

[candid tundra]

Yup me too

[sharp tinsel]

honestly krieg top + the helmet we got is dope

[little path]

and just putting those points into other perks

[karmic musk]

Slow and low damage

[candid tundra]

Tag keystone is probably the most universal rn

[fresh mango]

i love the new chainaxe

[sinful flax]

True

[tiny igloo]

Keystoneless builds are fucking great

[tiny summit]

Not having a 2 handed chain axe is still disappointing

[sinful flax]

lol

[empty creek]

yeah, it’s just proximity specific, method does not matter

[half ginkgo]

Perks? Flakiac?

[round jetty]

not keeping the karnak twins as a random boss encounter is kind of disappointing

[dusk idol]

they’re still good

[candid tundra]

2h would be cool too, both 2h and dual

That khorne larp

[sinful flax]

got it, thanks

[eternal sable]

i wonder when they are going to add a cowboy outfit for vet in the shop

[candid tundra]

Would be so fun

[dusk idol]

but having the ability to take keystones without feeling starved now

[eternal sable]

thats going to sell like crazy

[dusk idol]

also feels great

[eternal sable]

with all these revolver players around

[candid tundra]

How many shovels for vet were even added? 1 or 2

[tiny igloo]

I wanna try some keystoneless builds on other classes now that I think about it.

[humble nova]

My first match after patch was 3 vets and a zealot and we all had the new revolver lol

[eternal sable]

lol yeah

[atomic zephyr]

how are the vet tree changes?

[eternal sable]

they need to add wild west outfits

[eager patrol]

Only one

[eternal sable]

fatshark will make so much moneyu

[candid tundra]

Better than they were to say the least

[wanton dawn]

No more born leader: happy as a clown

[candid tundra]

Rgr thx

[atomic zephyr]

:D

[tiny igloo]

Pretty good imho. Too early to say for definite, but still pretty good.

[humble nova]

Helps that ragers were nerfed in health

[atomic zephyr]

also wow that shovel looks ridiculous

[candid tundra]

Yo wait does the steel legion skin work on the foldable shovels

[dusk idol]

other classes keystones have great synergy with their builds and less impactful talents overall, might be a bit more painful than it is with veteran

[wanton dawn]

What a though choice

Plasma is so easy to build now

[empty creek]

w/ the new tree changes, i was able 2 pickup close quarters killzone pretty easily w/o interrupting my build so that was cool

1 little extre doodad

[flat pebble]

is this the “good new shovel”? which mk?

[eternal sable]

if you fully hold your new shovel special it will deal damage twice

[candid tundra]

Last think I'll bother you with @formal lake just so I can test at home, which blessings and perks are you running on the new shovel?

[nimble sentinel]

MY FELLAS! How are the new weapons?

[wanton dawn]

Also flame change is pogger too

[dusk idol]

you mean heavy atk?

[flat pebble]

isn’t this the thing they described in the notes? you deal damage when you yank it back

[eternal sable]

yeah special heavy attack

[slender turtle]

Fanning revolver is disgusting

[eternal sable]

it will deal damage twice rather than once if you use special + light

[tiny igloo]

Maybe so, but I like experimenting. It's half the reason I put so many hours in this game.

It's not the gear progression that's got me hooked, y'know

[dusk idol]

yeah it’s interesting

[candid tundra]

Uncanny strike as the other blessing?

[flat pebble]

azreal please which mk

[wanton dawn]

Flame change alone is a huuuge buff to vet

[nimble sentinel]

in a good way?

[feral lake]

Fanning revolver?

[flat pebble]

QQ

[candid tundra]

The new one idm

Idk*

[dusk idol]

cowboy revolver

[flat pebble]

there’s two, thanks

[candid tundra]

Yeah

The new one

[slender turtle]

Berry good

[candid tundra]

The folding one

[dusk idol]

VIII

[flat pebble]

there’s two NEW ones you lug nut

[candid tundra]

WHAT

[nimble sentinel]

ballin, anyone try the shovel or laspistol?

[candid tundra]

I was lied to

[eternal sable]

i really like the mk7

[dusk idol]

oh is there

[little path]

Is the competitive urge perk good?

[candid tundra]

Someone told me they added one

[empty creek]

https://tenor.com/view/pulp-fiction-gif-24706301

[dusk idol]

didn’t even notice

[little path]

I don't see people using it

[flat pebble]

they confirmed one

[little path]

20% base damage seems really really good

[candid tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/liar-anakin-gif-21992662

[empty creek]

https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-you-anakin-star-wars-gif-10358450

[humble nova]

Too random to really matter

[candid tundra]

Lmao

[safe quiver]

My pc is dead ATM how's the new skill tree update ?

[terse idol]

[dusk idol]

i just play the game to beat up dogs

[flat pebble]

so this is not what azreal said and now i’m head scratching

[terse idol]

Maybe they didn't is it finally time

To min max charge rate speeds

[tiny igloo]

OK, ATF has entered the chat

[kind scarab]

So fun fact

[terse idol]

[sharp tinsel]

for the first time in months I take off the krieger helmet... finally.

[dusk idol]

ignore me I thought there was only one new mark

[sharp tinsel]

just to put on another gas mask, lol

[empty creek]

they made the lower bit of the veteran tree fatter so U could get 2 the keystones easier as well as pick up more of those bonuses w/o strangling points

[serene sage]

it's not that random, it will be up in almost every horde/boss events so it will be up when it matters. still, it's one of the lower priority one imo

[flat pebble]

this chat is moving too fast for legibility apparently lol

[empty creek]

it's nothing crazy but is very helpful

[eternal sable]

thats so dumb

the heavy shovel doesnt do more special damage than the mk7

[humble nova]

I've played with and without and honestly haven't noticed it making a difference

[nimble sentinel]

yeh guess I gotta research shovel and pistol on my own

[candid tundra]

Yeah I'm gonna wait for like a day or so until I start trying new shit cause I am CLUELESS lol

[empty creek]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-hardy-bane-the-dark-knight-rises-no-one-cared-who-i-was-till-i-put-on-the-mask-gif-21913679

[serene sage]

take a look for yourself
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[kind scarab]

Even with the nerf to revolvers, rending and handcannon

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1171203823524646994/1181645819611459594/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.12.05_-_19.18.00.02.mp4?ex=6581d06d&is=656f5b6d&hm=309dd1b7d0efeba3fab3a335d60db9def919e0886d994bb72722f7a78ca105ec&

I can still oneshot them

[flat pebble]

your first lead is mk3 shovel

[humble nova]

Generally you build so that buffs like that won't matter

[sharp tinsel]

under the krieger gas mask.. was yet ANOTHER gasmask

[terse idol]

[kind scarab]

That's not oneshot, that's a magdump

[finite imp]

What blessing

[flat pebble]

semantics fights semantics

[kind scarab]

And I plan on making one of those eventually

[flat pebble]

who will WIN

[dusk idol]

you can’t tell me slapping their silly faces out of the air with a shovel bonk isn’t satisfying

[sharp tinsel]

and this one doesn't clip like the krieger helmet

LOL

[candid tundra]

How well does the new revolver do for Cara?

[warm idol]

is uncanny/decimator good on the new shovel?

[candid tundra]

I figured

Yeah i was gonna ask

[humble nova]

Looked like 5 to me

[candid tundra]

Is uncanny strike still like

[empty creek]

lung strength of an air compressor breathing thru multiple masks

[dusk idol]

it’s not terrible

[candid tundra]

Shovel meta

[kind scarab]

I'm actually still leaning towards using the new heavy laspistol, since it's just an overall better laspistol from what I'd seen

[dusk idol]

3 shots crushers

[nimble sentinel]

mk3 is the good one?

[brittle lagoon]

mine two shots them o.o

[dusk idol]

two shots on crits

[sharp tinsel]

just built different tbh

[dusk idol]

still works nicely into crushers

[karmic musk]

Other one has more combos

[candid tundra]

Which blessings do you run on the new revolver

[dusk idol]

pfft right now?

[candid tundra]

Hell why not idk

[dusk idol]

i got some shit revolver with the crit on melee and hand cannon

[kind scarab]

On special pickaxe attack, I'm sure

[olive pelican]

what is that fucking build lmao

[dusk idol]

dmg to specialists and flak 25

[candid tundra]

I'm just trying to get a sense for things while I'm away from home, gonna be testing at home

[brittle lagoon]

well yea that's the point

[olive pelican]

how wtf

[nimble sentinel]

hadron dont u dare

[dusk idol]

she dares

[humble nova]

Oh, she will

[terse idol]

Pretty goooood

[flat pebble]

it’s what azreal said

[finite imp]

That would make me fold too

[terse idol]

What blessings?

[flat pebble]

is the one he used in the ranger clip

[spice wadi]

She who dares wins all of your plasteel

[nimble sentinel]

I suppose it could have been worse

[candid tundra]

(So sorry to keep pinging) but yeah other than limbsplitter what else is the best?

[kind scarab]

How long does the special animation take to setup the pickaxe?

[olive pelican]

what shovel is that and what blessings?

[finite imp]

Anyone try the new knife

[warm idol]

those were my best so far

[kind scarab]

I haven't tried out the new shovel, since I'm eating birthday cake and sorting some other stuff out

[brittle lagoon]

it's isntant

just a flip

[humble nova]

Weird how I haven't seen a single person mention the knife

[brittle lagoon]

like way faster than a chainsword rev

[humble nova]

I wonder if you can reliably stagger ragers with the jab now

[nimble sentinel]

take two

[finite imp]

Is it worse than current knufe

Knife

[kind scarab]

Good luck

[nimble sentinel]

why

[brisk umbra]

What's up with Bosses not spawning?

Third mission not a single guy spawned

[dusk idol]

keep it

[hearty panther]

'Horde clear knife' did seem oxymoronic to me

[finite imp]

Ai nerf

Lmao

What else would you use a knife for

[nimble sentinel]

crit chance can't be that worth it, can it?

[candid tundra]

Cheers

[brisk umbra]

The new knife is great for Chorus Zealot

[dusk idol]

carapace to maniac or flak and between the eyes to whatever you want and I’m sure it’ll work fine

[finite imp]

Yeah take meta kiddies word with grain of salt

[dusk idol]

if X is similar to old las pistol, it’ll have high crit and weak spot modifiers

[sick marsh]

is the new assault chainsword better than the old one?

[nimble sentinel]

imma do all that...but one more go

[serene sage]

third time is the charm, no?

[nimble sentinel]

aight I got a stealth pistol

[scenic bronze]

Is plasma sfx not showing for anyone else?

[dusk idol]

yeah

[scenic bronze]

[sick marsh]

what does the new chainsword variant do over the old one, is it better, and what blessings should I have on it?

[tiny summit]

The director is having warp interference.

[dusk idol]

it looks slightly different

[wintry raptor]

dont really like braced autoguns but shoild i get it just in case?

[humble nova]

I got one of the twins on my first drop into the pit at the beginning of my first new map run

[sick marsh]

I know it looks different...

[tiny summit]

Yea just grab it. It's a 380

[dusk idol]

you asked what it does better

that’s what it does better

[brisk sapphire]

did they fix limbsplitter bayonet

[sick marsh]

is it any different in functionality?

[dusk idol]

no

[flat wasp]

Yes

[brisk sapphire]

rip stabby shenangians

[karmic musk]

@formal lake Any difference in special damage between the new shovels?

[sudden dome]

no thats the only objectivly bad braced

[brisk umbra]

what i meant is i keep getting 1 of the twins, but no monstruosities at all in 3 mission for the weekly

[dire jacinth]

so quick question, does killing these twins do anything? or just time limited monstrosity

[humble nova]

It can always get fixed/changed later

[brisk umbra]

can you even kill the twins?

They instantlly disappear

[dusk idol]

a sense of pride and accomplishment surely

[serene sage]

a sense of prid and accomplisment

[serene sage]

damn too late

[humble nova]

Don't they count?

[wintry raptor]

i choose prid

[dusk idol]

see, Fox gets it

[sudden dome]

sure but you have a t1 blessing and a not 25% perk its already bricked too

[brisk umbra]

nope

[humble nova]

We also got a BoN on that same mission

[nimble sentinel]

"My Job is Gun" update thoughts

[humble nova]

u rite

[candid tundra]

Is this a reference

[humble nova]

If your job is gun then y no marks key

[tiny summit]

Bruh it's not bricked. It's fine.

[finite imp]

how are the new stims

[dusk idol]

only to disappointment

[serene sage]

very based, I would skip Shocktroop for Ogryn and Monsto damage maybe?

[brisk umbra]

fuck me

[dusk idol]

ok

[candid tundra]

What...

[brisk umbra]

third game in a row i enter a failed mission

what the fuck

[finite imp]

i like ya cut G

[serene sage]

that's like 90% what I would run, too

[sudden dome]

its briked by being a c braced, its gat a garbage blessing too if you have 1.3k plasteel to waste to roll feel free but its just bad

[brisk umbra]

the slow one i guess?

[warm idol]

I concur shocktroop is kinda meh imo

[nimble sentinel]

I'm using exclusively lasguns with this build, though I might trade shock out since Fully Loaded is forced

[frozen meadow]

what specific weapons should I use chainsword revup against and do I use light attack or heavy attack

[finite imp]

must be new here

[warm idol]

since the stuff that it was actually useful for

[tiny summit]

You say your job is gun but you use shout

[hollow lion]

is vet saved????

[warm idol]

eg recons

was nerfed

[humble nova]

mm needs work tbh

[brisk umbra]

always use the heavy, and for tanky stuff

[dusk idol]

yes

[warm idol]

with fully loaded being forced in that tree you already have a ton of ammo on lasguns

[karmic musk]

So what to do with this?

[serene sage]

I wouls say so yeah, triple ammo on las seems redundant when Ogryn damage is right there

[sudden dome]

Im on my second character and all my saved plasteel went down the drain

[atomic zephyr]

oh yeah how's the new laspistol?

[flat pebble]

why are you giving advice

[dusk idol]

leave it in your inv to rot

[half ginkgo]

Have anyone managed to actually kill the new boss?

[flat pebble]

that columnus braced is worth picking up whoever saw it

inarguably

[atomic zephyr]

whats wrong with columnus braced lmao

[flat pebble]

literally nothing

[serene sage]

well I'm arguing anyway, what you gonna do about it

[flat pebble]

someone’s working on bad information

[brisk umbra]

Or i get a psyker on an auric with a purple purgatus where he crafted sprint effenciency

[atomic zephyr]

too real

[brisk umbra]

what the fuck world

[flat pebble]

squish ur lil cheeks because ur my buddy

[sudden dome]

its columnus braced, its 70% of the dps of the other two, the aim issues of the graia and the lower base ammo issues of the agra its just bad and has no upsides

[dusk idol]

pick it up just to have it, you don’t need to tap it

you have no idea when weapons will be tweaked or buffed, some will get better

[frozen meadow]

just double checking, always use heavy when unrevved and revved and use revved against ogryns and maniacs and such?

[dusk idol]

some will get worse

[robust mirage]

did they buff the lasgun fire rates?

[serene sage]

is Columnus really 70% DPS of the other two? This is the first time I heard of it and I frequent this place and Psyker chat for gun stuff lol

[karmic musk]

Isnt new Laspistol just MG Ia in pistol form

[raw steppe]

No

[brisk umbra]

no i meant, revved heavy against that stuff yeah

[raw steppe]

He made that shit up

LOL

[flat pebble]

this guy’s fuckin crazy lol

[dusk idol]

Nerfed laspistol rof

[serene sage]

yeah that's what I thought lol

[sudden dome]

I tested 3 in meat grinder the other 2 do 1.7k and that did 1.3k

[atomic zephyr]

1.3k what, dps?

[sudden dome]

yes

[atomic zephyr]

on what?

[sudden dome]

against flak rager

[frozen meadow]

so use heavy for horde clear and light for single target attack when unrevved?

[robust mirage]

i'm talking about the rifles not the pistol xD

[dusk idol]

no change afaik

[humble nova]

Rifles untouched

[flat pebble]

pick up the columnus just based on merit of it being an excellent base that might turn into something that might turn out to be busted in any future patch

[tiny summit]

People really do be thinking a perfectly fine weapon is bricked just because it isn't the perfect god roll when most people just want something decent

[flat pebble]

it was a fuckin armory roll lmao

[robust mirage]

huh, feels alot more snappy for some reason

[finite imp]

CIAG is your boy

[flat pebble]

there’s literally no reason to buy it

[raw steppe]

Colum brauto is quite good, ive been using it

[serene sage]

reasonably identical blessings, stats, builds, etc?

[humble nova]

Might just be different talents you took

Since the tree changed

[flat pebble]

i don’t think you’re understanding my overall argument if that’s your response

[sudden dome]

exact same i just swapped the weapons out

[serene sage]

cause my Columnus outpaces the others

[sudden dome]

I killed 3 each

to see how much a mag goes through

[robust mirage]

i took 0 talents right now i'm just testing out the new weapons in the meatgrinder and my old ones

[sudden dome]

and graia kills the most per mag

[finite imp]

There's an argument?

[sudden dome]

so i used that

[raw steppe]

Graia is the worst brauto

Tbh lol

[flat pebble]

bait, got it

[sudden dome]

its not like I was using 50% damage and 70% on the others either

[flat pebble]

thanks man

[raw steppe]

Giga bait

[finite imp]

???

[dusk idol]

yes, is red or blue better

[finite imp]

I like CIAG wtf

i love CIAG

[humble nova]

Meatgrinder doesn't have the lag inherent to an actual match, could be part of it

[serene sage]

is this a DPS check or mag check cause im confused

[atomic zephyr]

graia kills the most per mag? wouldnt it be the agri?

[sudden dome]

ye sit cant aim but I needed something to level with and it has infinite ammo and kills the most ragers, what we were wiping to the most when I was leveling

[flat pebble]

dude what did you even think i was saying

[forest blaze]

Love this new chaxe. A little worried about how it'll play into giga hordes in Auric. It can one shot most of the maniacs without perks, blessings, or special which is pretty sick

[flat pebble]

i’m so confused lol

[finite imp]

What did YOU think I was saying

CIAG is your boy? Means reliable

good

positive

tf

[flat pebble]

you responded to me with a non sequitur

???

[karmic musk]

Hmm guess this is good enough

[robust mirage]

ah maybe

[dusk idol]

thing are getting confusing in the vet chat

[sudden dome]

it was a mag check but the dps made it worthless even though it killed the same because ragers arent going to give you that long and I was spending the same ammo

[serene sage]

non sequitur
dude scores 800 in the SAT

[finite imp]

my statement was that I like the CIAG? how is that a non sequitor

[flat pebble]

english lit bachelors coming in clutch

[dusk idol]

I can’t read

[sudden dome]

Im sure theres some niche for it but its objectively the worst braced

[robust mirage]

also the reving on chainweapons feels changed for some reason??? before i could just use the key and rev and now i need to lef click+ the key bind or block+key to rev

[flat pebble]

because it had no bearing on what i was saying, making it literally a non sequitur

hey man how about we just move on

how about that

[finite imp]

Were you not talking about the CIAG?

[unkempt pawn]

What blessings am I looking for on this?

[humble nova]

800 big nombar

[flat pebble]

no

[warm idol]

this new mission is fun

[dusk idol]

not those ones I am sure

[sudden dome]

talking about its braced version

[warm idol]

pretty long too

[finite imp]

okay I thought you were based on the fact that you mentioned it

[flat pebble]

i was talking about the columnus braced

[humble nova]

Fun but slightly overstays its welcome

[finite imp]

got it. And you thought I was trying to start an argument i guess?

[humble nova]

Just nice to have new maps really

[flat pebble]

can we please just drop it

[finite imp]

sure thing man

[flat pebble]

it’s so unimportant

[finite imp]

agreed

[dusk idol]

it’s important to me

[forest blaze]

Me too

Continue this

[kind scarab]

Was worried that'd be the case. Since shovel as is, without the special was already lacking for me.

[flat pebble]

i’m gonna shovel you

[serene sage]

puts down popcorn

[dusk idol]

😭

[humble nova]

rise, rise, rise, rise, rise

[south garnet]

um guys I asked really politely for my fellow vets to please wait until at least 6 hours from now to play the update because I can't yet

[kind scarab]

The new laspistol is.... bothering me

[serene sage]

so after all is said and done, we are back to old revolver and PS6?

[kind scarab]

It feels like there's a delay on actually firing the gun

[dusk idol]

ok

[finite imp]

it was a misunderstanding he took as me trolling

[south garnet]

why are you spitting in my face?

[finite imp]

thats all

[kind scarab]

and I can't use it comfortably

[forest blaze]

Noticed this. It feels a little... slow

[flat pebble]

dammit

[finite imp]

the end

[dusk idol]

ira 5am anyway I need to sleep

[humble nova]

oh shit everybody hide

[south garnet]

If you can all please quit your games and wait a few more hours I would really appreciate it, thank you in advance

[kind scarab]

I'll still stick with my regular laspistol on the zealot tbh

Cause of the delay on firing

[flat pebble]

wesley only if you get me an apple fritter

[serene sage]

vets should be on strike until they buff the Boltgun

[karmic musk]

and recon

[serene sage]

okay fine, the recon can tag along

[forest blaze]

Fartgun

[sudden dome]

recon doesnt need to be buffed

[tawdry hull]

chat on fire chat on fire?

[dusk idol]

I used it with our freed up build path

it feels

good

I like it

a lot actually

[serene sage]

you shut your mouth

[dusk idol]

never

make me

[serene sage]

positivity? in VET CHAT?

[kind scarab]

I appreciate the changes to the vet tree, much better than what we had during part 1

Honestly

[serene sage]

we whine and moan here

[karmic musk]

Stop overdosing on stimms

[dusk idol]

😭

[south garnet]

I actually just had an apple fritter yesterday, if I'd have known I would have saved it for you

[sudden dome]

I actually havnt used one yet, I like the damage they do

[finite imp]

some dude came in here last night and was like WTF this class sucks ass im going back to zealout >:C

[humble nova]

recon p bad right now

[sudden dome]

how I feel on my second character about zealot

[finite imp]

and we were like yeah we know. Bye

[south garnet]

based, back to PS+bolter identical vet clone era

[serene sage]

unironically we probably are the strongest rn

[humble nova]

Got nerfed into the ground and didn't get enough to compensate that change

[finite imp]

skill issue tbh

[serene sage]

well ogryns are all kickbacks
so we can't we be all Bolt?

[karmic musk]

So Laspistol MK X vs Lasgun MG la, who wins

[humble nova]

I like ogryn for brain-off matches

[dusk idol]

me

[south garnet]

every class deserves lazy weapon options

[finite imp]

depends on the player

[dusk idol]

I win

[unkempt pawn]

Holy shit, new shovels stack uncanny strike so fast since they double-hit on special

[sudden dome]

which is PS and plasma right now

[dusk idol]

i am strongest

[humble nova]

That's the plasma here

[fresh mango]

man i got excited seeing this drop

fuck you emperor

[finite imp]

plasma is such a lazy weapon that the vets who use it won't even bother to research if the gun they're actually using is good or not lol

[south garnet]

lmao yea

[dusk idol]

if it shoots it’s good

[finite imp]

they come in here with a godroll plasma and are like UERM

[forest blaze]

Plasma great

[finite imp]

IS THIS GOOD

[tall torrent]

Harvest AoN

[finite imp]

and 9 dudes go

[fresh mango]

damm

[south garnet]

rejectum palisma, returneth to thine boltre

[finite imp]

plasma is such a boring weapon

[dusk idol]

embrace shotgun

[finite imp]

it's good dont get me wrong

but YAWN

[forest blaze]

lmao
80/80 damage and stopping power with +cara and +maniac and say "is this good?"

Shut up. You know it's good.

[wooden lotus]

plasma feels overtuned with how consistently good it is at taking down any sort of encounter

[finite imp]

YUP

[scenic bronze]

VId nerf made me who I am

[dusk idol]

no i need constant affirmation

[fresh mango]

God forbid people want the opinion of others just to be sure

[dusk idol]

please

[wooden lotus]

with like minimum investment at that

[finite imp]

all ur items suck eggs fuk u

[forest blaze]

Take that nonsense to Zealot chat 😂

[fresh mango]

yall should learn to have a little more holly jolly spirit in your souls

[dusk idol]

😭

[finite imp]

its fucking plasma

thats what it does

it melts you

[wooden lotus]

hey don't come at me like i'm complaining

[pulsar shore]

Win?

[karmic musk]

good enough

[serene sage]

I'm only here to humble brag ngl

[fresh mango]

pen could be higher

[half ginkgo]

69% penetration… nice

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/boring-unimpressed-meh-really-seriously-gif-16279809

[forest blaze]

"I don't post here often but can someone tell me if this is a good gun?"

[dusk idol]

69

[south garnet]

true endgame is finding excuses and builds to take advantage of the shittiest, least-used weapons (for good reason) followed by losing your mind to the point that you believe, actually, they were good the entire time

[eternal ember]

69 pen is all you need

[forest blaze]

69% penetration too good

[finite imp]

i only run grey

[dusk idol]

wow

[finite imp]

get good

[dusk idol]

I felt that

[finite imp]

updoot is done downloading

here i go

[lean mountain]

alright guardsman

[forest blaze]

Me pulling up the new chaxe 😂

[lean mountain]

post your revolver builds

[tiny summit]

"Um you're missing 5% dmg on your perk, literal garbage"

[finite imp]

DONT DO IT HES FISHING FOR HELP

[dusk idol]

https://tenor.com/view/airsoft-gif-5049482

[finite imp]

NOBODY HELP HIM

[fresh mango]

the new chaxe is great idc what anyone says

[lean mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/justified-gun-spinning-revolver-gun-gif-22041686

[finite imp]

EVERYONE STOP TYPING

this chat is dead now

[dusk idol]

that gif burned my eyeballs

my retinas are seared

[mystic belfry]

Amanda

[cloud current]

love using boltgun and being told after we beat the mission "hey don't use that weapon, ever x)" even though I have on par or better stats in everything

[finite imp]

well howdy pardner

[tiny summit]

I will be the recons champion

[forest blaze]

fartgun

[finite imp]

ill take 500 for things that didnt happen, alex

[cloud current]

it happened literally two hours ago

[finite imp]

pics

if no pics gg

[cloud current]

what's so unbelievable about it

[south garnet]

almost without exception, if someone gives me either build or play advice during a pub match, they are the worst player in the match themselves

[finite imp]

im just bustin chops

i had a dude last night bitching about the team sucking and I was like dude you're at the bottom of the scoreboard kindly stfu

[serene sage]

Yep

[finite imp]

and he LOST HIS SHIT

[dusk idol]

the only time bolter is bad is when you are standing on a bridge shooting into the next hive city trying to hit tyranids

[serene sage]

Backseat people are always shitters

[forest blaze]

My favorite is that those same people telling you to stop using boltgun can run a godroll meta weapon and be the reason you almost lose

[cloud current]

boltgun isn't bad, may not be the best but it's very playable and FUN

[fresh mango]

the new chainaxe NEEDS +vs flak

[dusk idol]

or when you, you know, don’t bring survivalist

[finite imp]

started yelling at me over mic

dude plugged in his mic

to yell at me

[dusk idol]

truly a gamer moment

[forest blaze]

I think carapce too because you can almost 1 shot maulers and crushers with grey

[half ginkgo]

New chainaxe good then

??

[finite imp]

wait there's a new chainsword too?

[fresh mango]

i think flak + maniac is fine

[forest blaze]

I like new chaxe

[south spindle]

Aaaaaaand we're back to another month of fresh 30s in A.M

[serene sage]

Tbf, I've been told twice in game on mic that I'm good with the Boltgun 😳

[south spindle]

Oh joy

[fresh mango]

flak + carapace is probably better

[forest blaze]

+maniac I don't think is needed because it'll one shot all the maniacs with good base stats

[candid bridge]

Man went full cod4 lobby on you

[dusk idol]

this is the way it must be

this is the way

[south spindle]

We need a better gating system

[cloud current]

boltgun allows you to deal with everything, it's a sniper and a panic button all at the same time

[fresh mango]

it does not one shot muties

[forest blaze]

It sure does

[serene sage]

Somehow it's always the Xbox players who think they know it all despite being generally a lot less experienced.

[fresh mango]

Mine must be fuckin malfunctioning then

[forest blaze]

Using special or no?

[dusk idol]

honestly last AM I did my zealot kept blowing up poxbursters in my face, and since it was poxburster AM

[forest blaze]

Base heavy will need +maniac

[dusk idol]

it was killing me

[forest blaze]

special heavy will pop them

[nimble sentinel]

which new sovel is best, and anyone got examples?

[dusk idol]

at that point i just left

[fresh mango]

let me check again

[flat pebble]

auric damnation QP is at an all time low rn it’s so sad

[finite imp]

WAIT THEY REDID THE TREE AGAIN???

GOD

[south spindle]

Yep... fresh level 30s should not be in A.M, or even A.D for that matter

[tall torrent]

And it’s better now

[finite imp]

GOOD

someone throw me a revolver tree

i got farming to do

[celest vine]

2-4 more points depending on your build

[dusk idol]

have funn

[serene sage]

A.D?

[eternal sable]

someone post the new shovel 1 shot crusher build now

[dusk idol]

auric damn

[finite imp]

no

[flat pebble]

frankly up until someone is around lvl 70 in auric damnation QP unless they have an obvious frame that indicates they’ve been playing forever i get cagey

[celest vine]

Mine got 4 more points anyway

[south spindle]

Auric Damn yeah

[cloud current]

now they just need to fix the keystones

[jade notch]

Here's the full Tree:

[serene sage]

Ohh my god I thought you meant AM/PM
I get it now

[dusk idol]

i’m off to bed gnight vets

[finite imp]

is that good for revo

looks it

[flat pebble]

lvl 30-45 is not that big of a difference, they usually just have marginally better gear

[jade notch]

No, that's just to show what the Tree looks like now

[serene sage]

Very based build.

[finite imp]

oh

im on it

[forest blaze]

Not everyone runs those mods to know what their level looks like. I certainly don't

[south spindle]

Game knowledge counts, weapons dont

[celest vine]

Ive seen that before

[south spindle]

An freshies aint got neither

[tall torrent]

I’m running this now

[flat pebble]

yeah which is why i had the little frame caveat. at any rate it’s just wild out there

[celest vine]

Extra 4 points with the tree redesign

[flat pebble]

ok

[finite imp]

for revolver?

[finite imp]

that looks fun

[tall torrent]

Helbore 2 + Rashad axe

[jade notch]

Credit ain't mine, and I'm a dumbass who forgot who actually made this build

Oh wait, it's @celest vine's (?)

[cloud current]

how do you share a tree build like this

[celest vine]

Yes

[finite imp]

so happy they moved up trench fighter

[celest vine]

💀💀

[tall torrent]

Darktide gameslantern website

[celest vine]

I appreciate it king

[tall torrent]

It’s not moved up, it’s just way easier to reach

Also veteran survivability buffed

[flat pebble]

oh?

[jade notch]

My bad, it's 2AM and I'm fried from work and running A.D.s of the new map

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/boring-unimpressed-meh-really-seriously-gif-16279809

[flat pebble]

i haven’t logged on yet

[tall torrent]

You can pretty easily reach 190-200 toughness now

[celest vine]

My Lasman build is way better now with the extra perks

[flat pebble]

oh that’s good news

[swift ingot]

The first one of these that I upgrade and I get Dum Dum 4 after all this time, she’s perfect

[flat pebble]

i’d like to feel i can run another health curio on my vet

[celest vine]

No shade, im glad you like it

[nimble sentinel]

mid mission but yeh shock trooper and 25% ammo are overkill

[celest vine]

Ill just take extra ammo

[tall torrent]

Also Infernus is bad now, sad

They removed onslaught stacks for bleed and fire dmg ticks

[halcyon zephyr]

I thought it was already bad

[tall torrent]

Infernus back to irrelevance once more

[celest vine]

It wasnt good to begin with

[jade notch]

I like to take inspiration where I can

[celest vine]

Needed surgical to get use with it

[fresh mango]

no yeah i know

[halcyon zephyr]

"I remember when Inferus was good."
"Infernus was never good."

[fresh mango]

I was using just heavies on accident

[tall torrent]

It had a unique application for onslaught and now it doesn’t have anything going for it

[fresh mango]

am tired

[tall torrent]

Infernus went from bad to worse

[celest vine]

Paint it red join the World eaters

[forest blaze]

I'm cosplaying for sure dude

[forest blaze]

It'll one shot special ragers too

[fresh mango]

yeah

[halcyon zephyr]

fatshark nerfing an underperformer?

Quick, cover the recon lasgun's eyes

[tight dragon]

so is the new laspistol good for anything?

[forest blaze]

I don't think it'll change breakpoints with +maniac because the regular heavy overhead doesn't quite do enough, but you CAN two shot the

[tight dragon]

feels good to shoot but then it doesn't seem that good really compared to the old one

[tall torrent]

Did the recon lasguns even get changed this patch lol

[forest blaze]

+carapace on new chaxe I think will hit the special bp for one shotting maulers and crushers

[crisp bronze]

Has anyone noticed that they stealth buffed the talent Leave No One Behind? I swear it didn't give stun immunity before.

[solar bone]

Wonder where that puts that one

[tiny summit]

Unless it a shadow buff, nuthin

[slow spade]

"Hotfix: Recon lasgun receives a -50% damage nerf. Sorry folks knew we forgot something lmao"

[shell jackal]

Anyone noticed that the Helbore doesn’t have hit markers now? Or is it just me

[flat pebble]

you can’t ohk them already on their flak?

[acoustic wyvern]

it shreds

[halcyon zephyr]

nerfing infernus was a recon lasgun nerf.
But how will the Graia brauto affect the salmon econony?

[tiny summit]

"Recon gives carapace status after enough shots"

[sudden dome]

so now it has the highest dps of all 3 braced and a stupid amount of ammo, if someone else can take care of long ranged gunners it might be useful on zealots

[slow spade]

"The Torrent now contains a fishing minigame"

[flat pebble]

i’m not really sure infernus ever really did much in the recon lasguns? wasn’t the general consensus it was just headhunter blessing and whatever the fuck because the rest was mid

[tall torrent]

Headhunter + dum dum is the way on recon

[slow spade]

Headhunter and dumdum

Infernus is shit

[flat pebble]

sure but at the time recons were good dumdum wasn’t good

[slow spade]

It USED to op as fuck at release

[slow spade]

No dumdum was always meta

[flat pebble]

iirc dumdum still had that buff it needed

[halcyon zephyr]

It was a dev's 1 year reminder on Outlook before the holidays last year to nerf infernus because it was too strong on recon las. Then they fucked off for a year

[flat pebble]

if you say so, i didn’t use it on anything

[slow spade]

The recon was never the same again...

[flat pebble]

point being infernus was not going from something great to something bad

it went from infernus to infernus

[slow spade]

Ironically that's what happened on release as it ignored armor and had infinite stacks

[flat pebble]

fire ticks make brain chemicals go brrr

[slow spade]

Now capped at 12 and affected by armor

[nimble sentinel]

CONCLUSION: I shot the horde, didn't go down, still had 1k shots in the bank. I can retire shock trooper and open the build to more gun types

[flat pebble]

oh…. release

[slow spade]

That's how long Fatshark decided to fuck infernus...

[flat pebble]

i think lifetime i’ve gotten one special kill, a trapper, with infernus where it was the specific reason i got the kill bc it went out of sight

the rest of the time it’s visual effects

[slow spade]

Not even patch 13 saved it :c

[copper pine]

It makes the dps equivalent to the columnus

[hollow raptor]

yo

[tall torrent]

Infernus’s actual use case is like tag keystone lol

U help ur teammates see enemies better

[alpine pebble]

was exilarating takedown fixed?

[flat pebble]

it keeps up dumdum stacks between reloads

[tall torrent]

Yes

[slow spade]

Yes

[flat pebble]

is what i tell myself for why it’s useful in my laspistol

[warm idol]

do the twins just

run away

or can they be killed

[slow spade]

I think they just run?

[warm idol]

cause the one I encounterd ran way after hitting 50% hp

[slow spade]

I never saw their bodies in any pics yet

[languid dune]

Haven't been able to have a look yet but any changes with the Vet tree layout that screw any builds?

[flat pebble]

what if once a group kills them the event ends for the entire community

[obsidian umbra]

bruh why does the braced revolver have no cross hair when braced

[slow spade]

"Oh fuck" -Wolfer

[tall torrent]

I think we got it to 30% hp then it just ran off

[south spindle]

Yeah similar experience

[flat pebble]

we need 4 thammer zealots STAT

[acoustic wyvern]

that was a quick find

[crisp bronze]

So my Graia Mk 4 Brauto with 80 in every stat except stability is worth using?

[tall torrent]

But we had bayonet spam + kickback Ogryn

[south spindle]

They just leg it

[merry gale]

blue foldable shovel better than green i think

thrust/decimator

maniac+cara

[sudden dome]

Actually I think I know where the disconnect when i talk about braced comes from, I only use the secondary fire mode, maybe col is better that graia without secondary but why would you even not use secondary with all that ammo

[tall torrent]

Karnak twins running away after getting their teeth kicked in for the 1000th time

[merry gale]

or unyelding+cara

idk

[slow spade]

So I run at people while mag dumping 💪💪💪

[half ginkgo]

yes, and I am a bit pissed. fucks up with monstrosities contract

[languid dune]

Babe it's 4pm, it's time for your god roll bricking session again

[south garnet]

Uncap burn stacks, then burn will be useful again. It's lore accurate too

[languid dune]

Hadron probably

[delicate moat]

i love stimms :3

[half ginkgo]

pretty much have to spam assassinations now

[brisk umbra]

As an ex brauto absolute hater, to actually start to like it and love it you need to understand that it's gonna become your first and only weapon for 95% of the game

[sudden dome]

I some times had to pull it out diring hordes just to get rid of a mag because my ammo was full and it would be a waste not to, you have so much ammo its not even funny, speed loader is the best blessing just so you can just ammo faster

[tall torrent]

They literally come out of nowhere and proceed to get stun locked to low hp it’s so funny

[acoustic wyvern]

i mean.....i can work with this

[sudden dome]

it was until I hit damnation, then the range sucked so I moved to plasma

[devout atlas]

oh my god vet tree is so much better now. i actually feel like i have TOO MANY points

[copper pine]

Yes absolutely

[slow spade]

I go Fire Frenzy + Death Spitter because damage good

[slow spade]

"Oh? Too many you say?" -Fatshark

[languid dune]

Not the worst that could've happened

[brisk umbra]

I get that, but don't really think a brauto as a ranged weapon, it's mostly a mid range (max 20m) weapon of destruction that you never switch off

[sudden dome]

I find when I actually need the damage, ragers maulers crushers ect, I dont have them up because I stopped killing chaff, so I take fire frenzy and speed reloader

[south garnet]

Stop saying this, everybody stop uttering a single word about any benefits of the new tree

The walls are listening

[half ginkgo]

new tree sucks

vet nerfed

fs buff

[sudden dome]

its a huge buff and its uneccecary, it ruins the point of choice when you can choose literally everything

[languid dune]

How good is the Graia Braced buff if anyone has tested?

[slow spade]

VoC useless UwU

[brisk umbra]

"np we're changing it back then"

[spiral cedar]

Man. I would kill for a Veteranomicon.

[acoustic wyvern]

1 tree with 3 nodes to choose? too many choices

[sudden dome]

it was sitting at 1.7k on flak maulers without the flak perk before this, its probably sitting at 2k now

[slow spade]

Pls be quiet, they'll hear you D:

[acoustic wyvern]

rebuild vet

[violet pebble]

So helbore still good despite nerf?

[languid dune]

Militarum handbook

[slow spade]

We need more damage

I can barely kill a sniper

[sudden dome]

47k dps is literaly powersword in a mob

[spiral cedar]

I can't tell if that's a joke or not.

[tall torrent]

The new tree is fine, complaining abt it still is just “for the sake of complaining”

[languid dune]

What got nerfed with Helbores?

[south garnet]

When the nerf comes I'll remember you said this

[naive hatch]

My Veteran has been drinking too much of Grandfather Nurgle's Reserve...

[acoustic wyvern]

Its vet, our secondary job is to complain

[sudden dome]

good I was saying I didnt want it changed in oter places before this

[slow spade]

Vet needs more nodes 💪💪💪

[violet pebble]

I was reading earlier someone was saying the maniac damage went down on it

[delicate moat]

vet needa more buffs 🦾

[junior hearth]

Good perks for the new revolver?

[crisp bronze]

I'm testing it in the Psykhanium right now and feels pretty good. And mine is only blue right now with 20% maniac and terrifying barrage. Gotta pray to the Omnissiah Hadron blesses me cause I've been holding this gun for a while.

[urban steppe]

sry can anyone explain what this means ? rending what means ? gives a bonus dps or what ? my english not a perfect so yeh help lol

[karmic musk]

Alright after one game with Mk3 Shovel, I think the old Shovel is better Without the heavy swings, you just can't control or kill crowds as well

[devout atlas]

am i the only one that thinks the new revolver kinda mid. although maybe exec stance can make it's accuracy at 25m+ not dookie ahh

[languid dune]

Vet needs more dakka

[tranquil socket]

pff, screw walking

[soft solstice]

anyone try out the new knife yet? I hear a lot of the shovel but not that

[south spindle]

Worlds heaviest Revolver

[halcyon zephyr]

Oh no did they nerf the only useful feature of the helbore?! its barter amount?

[delicate moat]

new knife is pretty comfy

[grizzled pebble]

New knife gud

[devout atlas]

the new knife seems really meh for me ngl but but I am judging it from a zealot pov

[copper pine]

The short explanation is that rending gives you more damage against armored targets

[pulsar shore]

best for marksman focus keystone's node

[acoustic wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-walk-gif-7970619

[obtuse raft]

Rending helps you lose less damage when shooting armor. If you get above 100% it counts as a damage bonus at a reduced rate.

[devout atlas]

new knife might actually be usable on Vet tbh I might have to give it a try

[soft solstice]

How w much about it is different since I won’t get a chance to get on until later

[junior hearth]

Good perks for new revolver? Hand Cannon and?

[halcyon zephyr]

heavy is good. Heavy is reliable. If you run out of bullets you can always hit them with it.

[devout atlas]

Honestly Crucian Roulette might be better on the new revy over Surgical 💀

[urban steppe]

so its will be usefull for a plasma hm ?

[tranquil socket]

What do I do with this? I'd switch sustained for Cannon and groaners to crit chance

[devout atlas]

Ooh Trickshot, been a while since I saw that used. Fun :D

[jolly cave]

I feel like light spam is better at horde clear with new knife over heavy, but idk I don't have a good way of measuring ttk for horde.

[nimble sentinel]

am I cookin or am I cooked?

[obtuse raft]

I'm not sure tbh. I think plasma has good armor pen inherently. But extra rending is never bad

[junior hearth]

damn, roulette and trickshot, what is the build?

[devout atlas]

Rending helps weapons that have pathetic Cara/Flak damage by default the most

It can even triple damage of a weapon like that

[soft solstice]

So lights are better for groups but heavies are worst to compensate on the knife?

[tall torrent]

It’s bricked
Weakpoint dmg is bad

[tranquil socket]

I want to both YEE and HAW with this, anybody got a good build?

[junior hearth]

thank you!

[crisp bronze]

Is Born Leader worth using now that it gives the toughness to teammates even if you're at full toughness?

[spiral cedar]

So how awful is the new Vet tree?

[devout atlas]

Oh soooo soooo bad. Worst one yet TOTALLY

[delicate moat]

very awful, pls buff

[jolly cave]

1% awful

Dumb stamina minor node

[spiral cedar]

I just want to go back to Beta when my class wasn't a whipping boy.

[delicate moat]

vet buff is just all the whining we made along the way

fr

[spiral cedar]

Smoke grenade buff - remove smoke grenade and make the tree shorter.

[devout atlas]

It's kinda funny that this smoke nade is from the same game studio that made Bardins Ranger Veteran

[serene sage]

Very based.

[quiet token]

How can I do the long bomb achievement?

[jolly cave]

Tree is the perfect length now, imo.

[spiral cedar]

To be fair I'm pretty sure the Skaven don't have thermo vision. At least I hope.

[sinful sedge]

tree rework v3 is so much nicer

[delicate moat]

incoming tree rework v4

[swift ingot]

I’m in love with the new Laspistol, it feels so good

[serene sage]

Vets are too strong, time to go back

[south spindle]

Based an Ogryn-pilled

[nimble sentinel]

frag grenade, horde at a distance, 45 degree quick throw

[urban steppe]

buy new one or keep old ?

[south spindle]

Boltgun builds fucking rock now btw dudes

[quiet token]

Got it, thanks.

[delicate moat]

tree rework v4:

• removed blitz
• removed ult
• removed keystone

[devout atlas]

double it and give it to the next person

[calm prairie]

Its okay fatsharks going on holiday we get to enjoy until mid 2024 when they wake up again

[fast scaffold]

The shovel seems like a better Paul lmao

[flat pebble]

just tap grenade throw don’t hold it (apparently)

[serene sage]

The real vet buff was FS vacation time all along

[calm prairie]

Fr

[acoustic wyvern]

warren 6-19 is the new mission?

[sinful sedge]

Do people like Precision Strike? I was reading how the math isn't all that great in reality, curious if I can drop it:

[tall torrent]

Seriously though I think vet tree is in a good spot and prob staying as is

[torn needle]

Aight me new to vet, which power sword is better

[devout atlas]

tfw i get this on my first roll, thanks fart shart

[tall torrent]

It helps some weapons reach breakpoints

[karmic musk]

Hmm seems like you have much less dodge distance on new shovel

[torn needle]

Or is it only shovel gaming now?

[slow spade]

It depends on the weapon also it works on melee weapons

[tall torrent]

6

[south spindle]

Ez

[torn needle]

Thank ya

[devout atlas]

they "fixed" that on all shovels

defense used to give you dodge on shovels

now it does not

[torn needle]

The shovel dodge master

[flat pebble]

i like how fixed is in air quotes

[slow spade]

Just dodge off a map ledge UwU

[devout atlas]

wait this thing rocks, people said it has less horde control because of the heavy 2 being horizontal but just block cancel lmao

[terse idol]

To be fair it, teechnically is a fix

[fast scaffold]

This is way better than the paul

[devout atlas]

OH HADRON PLEASE DONT BRICK IT I BEG YOU

WE'RE OFF TO SUCH A GOOD START HOLY SHIT

[calm prairie]

Pure dedication

[torn needle]

[calm prairie]

Not a cell phone in sight

[flat pebble]

sorry to hear about your impending brick with 25% carapace

[devout atlas]

Do I want Maniac on it then?

[devout atlas]

I wanted Cara :D

[fast scaffold]

I like it with Maniac but I got a goated roll with Limb Splitter/Thrust 4

[sudden dome]

so you just need 1 out of 3

[devout atlas]

oh my goddd, ffdhsh it fucking destroys ragers

OH MY GOD IT DESTROYS RAGERS

IM CREAMING

[ionic hull]

finally got around to reading the patch notes hows vet feeling with the new guns?

[tulip zenith]

Did i fuck up
I wanted an Infernus blessing on my recon lasgun, just upgraded to orange, and both blessing has the lock icon to it. Neither of them were infernus

[devout atlas]

so mk3 instead of insta stopping mutants just insta kills them

Awesome

pleasedontnerf

[tulip zenith]

Didnt even know the locked blessing were a thing

[crisp bronze]

Basically what everyone else is saying but to give more detail, just tapping the throw button instead of holding it so you don't see the aiming indicator makes the fuse time shorter and also throws it a shorter distance.
Makes long bomb so much easier. If you go into the Psykhanium and sit next to the crusher and bulwark you can practice throwing frags at the dregs and stuff on the other side and get a feel for the quick throw.

[torn needle]

Shovel > elite power sword

[terse idol]

Did you already change something

[sudden dome]

do they not test the weapons before releasing

[frozen meadow]

is there a melee primer by any chance?

like the ranged one in pins

[tulip zenith]

I changed the perks

[terse idol]

Both of then?

[tulip zenith]

yes

[devout atlas]

this thing already reliably 3 taps crushers m,gnghgh

[terse idol]

You can only change 2 aspects on a gun or melee or curios

Max

So either 1 perk, or 1 blessing

[tulip zenith]

No way to undo this?

[devout atlas]

crying

[terse idol]

Or 2 perks or two blessings

Nope

You're locked out

[tulip zenith]

RIP

[devout atlas]

time machine

[terse idol]

You can only change perks

[tight dragon]

shovel seems to suck outside of the meme oneshots tho, might as well keep my PS, i can just triple light crushers anyway

[tulip zenith]

Fuck me

[tall torrent]

Traitorous captain getting vibe checked by one guy high on stimms with a folded shovel

[tulip zenith]

invested wayy too much into this gun, thinking I can change the blessing at any time

Womp womp

[shell berry]

How important is stability you think guys?

[devout atlas]

Literally meaningless

[terse idol]

Not, imo

[devout atlas]

On laspistols

[tight dragon]

not that big on laspistols

[tall torrent]

Laspistol has zero recoil so u don’t care

[devout atlas]

I have laspistols with 20% and laspistols with 80%

literally identical

[sudden dome]

unusable without the scope which doesnt care about stability so

[devout atlas]

You only give a shit about Damage+Stopping Power and Ammo

[tulip zenith]

What can I use this for

[tight dragon]

that's wrong tho, you can hipfire sniper across the map with shit stab on laspistol

[tiny summit]

Wait for buffs

[devout atlas]

paperweight

[shell berry]

I see, thanks guys

[tulip zenith]

woulda been perfect on the rending/infernus build

[flat pebble]

this was why i said “with cara” because it’s the good 1/4

[umbral scaffold]

what perks do i get on my power sword?

carapace or flak?

[devout atlas]

At least I can get a good roll with this, tbh shovel has a number of decent things I can get on it

[devout atlas]

Carapace + Elite is nice

I am broke LMAO

I spent all my plasteel yesterday getting a trauma force

😭

and mutant

praying I get that inshallah

[umbral scaffold]

supercharge mid on powersword?

[tight dragon]

@formal lake think the new laspistol is any good compared to the old one?

[umbral scaffold]

what would i have over supercharge

[flat pebble]

yeah i mean it’s a confirmed 3/4 as it is i’m just being a turd

[devout atlas]

Brutal Momentum + Power Cycler is the meta

[karmic musk]

Damn can really feel the old Laspistol nerf

[tight dragon]

oh, kek

[pale sand]

Slaughterer is good too.

[brisk umbra]

the new revolver is really bad honestly

[tall torrent]

Not as good as brutal momentum

[devout atlas]

yea ngl ...

[brisk umbra]

i really do not get why they gave it 0 pierce

[calm prairie]

Which one

[devout atlas]

people telling me it's nuts but like

[umbral scaffold]

vi

[devout atlas]

the accuracy so mid

[calm prairie]

Brutal momentum and carapace damage perk so u can 3 tap crushers

[devout atlas]

you can't reliably headshot even at 25 meters

I'm not dropping my old revy for this

[shell ginkgo]

So how's the new tree, fellas

[stuck bridge]

first shot while brased is like perfectly acurate

[devout atlas]

AWFUL ||perfect||

[still pollen]

Why does the plasma sometimes fire but have no sound?

[whole moon]

I've watched vids of it taking out crushers, BoNs and Plogryn without a reload