#veteran-class
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Don't we all
Recon gets another nerf to damage for funsies UwU
reroll thrust imo
Infantry lasgun back on top
I'm fine with this 
Look, at this point non-ironically I am expecting them to change it to healing enemies
Maybe that is what the hidden message in the patch notes are saying…?
4 new shovels thank you fatshark very cool
What xenos could even be in Tertium tho
no I just head a radio transmission in the hub
It'd have to be genestealers
jean stealers
Necrons
fuck if I know
UwU
Lucius lasguns got a maniac nerf, and infantry lasguns still 2-3 shot most maniacs
👖 stealers
they're gonna steal all our levi's
NOT MY JEANS
But if it's genestealers the planet is fucked anyways
wat
is it not right now? 
Nah, GSC has been fought back
Posted earlier
hey terra had a genestealer cult and didnt get eaten
yet
Everyone keeps saying genestealers but what other race hides on Imperial worlds?
Necrons

I feel like if the Imperium ran ad campaigns on spotting genestealer threats they'd get less worlds eaten
That one Psyker voice line…
Damn,
ok having played a match, i can say i wouold never want to use chain axe over shovel or psword
or really purple commado orcs
I'm glad recon got shoved into the dirt and mud and its ribs broken and its house burnt down
not having horde clear sucks ass
Orks
We can NOT fight necrons lmao
I hope they delete recon completely
I can take on a Deathmark
Yeah this is the thing with games
can you give us your build with the revolver ?
Normal lasguns in lore can do great damage to orks
the devs will nerf op gear
nah, we can take them, stupid robots
then release more op gear
and the old op gear cant even compete anymroe since its been nerfed
Send me at the Stormlord, I'd win
necrons (all the enemies are carapace with regenerating HP and revive on death)
I mean, maybe if it's Flayed Ones without the gauss cannons?
Then its a fair fight
Oh god the comically thin legs
what's the big deal with chaos in 40k anyway? why do people have such problems defeating them? did they forget to fan their revolvers?
Because chaos is spamming assail
Please put better legs on your armored core
ok i want to try it with the weakspot blessing now
Chaos portals are just portals for psykers to spam assail
Man the difference between our psykers casting smite and Dawn of War psykers casting smite is ridiculous lmao
new vet tree, more like cool net, free! because it's a net full of a bunch of easy to grab talents now!
LMAO!
If the weight limit says is okay, is "we ballin" hours
yeah I am pretty certain you can skimp on flak and just run uncanny/take a swing, this thing's heavies def struggle without infested. Might be better in a more melee centric build but defs not without melee talents
WITNESS MY POWAH
you could get the damage higher by grabbing the %5 damage node on top of survivalist lel
WITNESSS YOUR DOOOOOOOOOM
why are we talking about psykers in a vox chat dedicated only to veterans ... heresy get out of our vox chatter
Rolling into quickplay like "you requested a sanctioned psyker milord?"
vets once again reign supreme
Bro
Veterans are Psykers cosplaying
vets are so back
explodes
Shovel pickaxe with maniac blessing + Skull crusher is doper
The other nerds don't understand my hellgun dreams
the question is, can new Vet outdamage Kickback Ogryns?
try dropping the %10 crit chance on reload for that %5 damage node, see if it's helping to push max dmg
power steep
kIckback does way worse damage against anything with actual armour...
on top of survivalist
course you can outdps em.
so is there a new knife build
I'm talking total damage, because that thing stacks so much damage on horde
this could be us
when obese fish please
Literally Me
uh, still probably. all you need is something with penetration, both plasma and autoguns are good for max dps during hordes.
you are a plastic toy?
The Recon and a voxcaster backpack is my kitbash for hellguns but
its just not the same
It's not the same
@crude wind what about this one? I assume Carapace for perk?
im thinking they are, in fact, not the same thing
tfw darkload finally loads
They said they're going to roll out a hotfix to fix fire, so we'll see if they include last minute gotcha nerfs before they disappear until february
Is shovel genuinely better than powersword or is it just meme builds?
wait what
where
why
Someone have a good buil to lucius mkII ?? (Snipe from the hell)
Catfish said so in general channel
Maybe they finally hotfix recon's
...
:..
...

I wouldn't say it's better it's just pretty good and funny to use because it kinda sounds like a TF2 frying pan
please stop taking copium, you are approaching lethal dosage
Imma fuck off to Rogue Trader this vacations
depends on your targets and aviable perks. generaly yes.
I AM ALWAYS APPROACHING THE LETHAL DOSE 
lmk how it goes please, it's on my radar
Without copium.....what do I have left........ 
I think the reason vet's so fun is because I can regenerate grenades
I can and will use frags in every situation
Shovel is really good at killing ragers
not the recons, that's for sure 
if you slap on flak maniac
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE TAKEN
like 1 shot heavy
im sold.
Anyway, as-is fire now just kills you instead of deleting your toughness. That's what will be included in the hotfix - whether or not other changes drop as part of that like nerfs to curb the OP weapons pre-vacation, idk
wait what lmao, they kill you straight up?
So what blessings for new revolver? Still Surgical + Hand Cannon?
Will be interesting to see zealots all finally taking bomber/flamer resist and just running through flame like they probably should be able to
I don't have enough perk points to take all the keystone upgrades
ive got like 40 curios with T4 flame and bomber resist. Looks like it will finally be useful lol
THERE’S A NEW TECH PRIEST?
Where
huh
anyone got automatic hellbore to work yet
yea like 3 ticks literally kills you dead
Enginseer KX-8

On the new map
Nice
what blessings and perks am i looking for again?
oh new tech priest
Noice
New fire
If you're curious
This is on a Zealot too so we will die a lot faster kek
new map is great
I feel is worse 
Hum
man they still didnt fix exec
Ok its not as bad as I thought it might be
New map is pretty cool
seriously removing all that point tax on exec stance should be so obvious
Its straight up "DIE" lmao
also lol
new Fire is going to be hotfixed to be less brutal according to Catfish
they did test it right
I dont see any damage resistance abilities active, so its just 200 HP

I think they might have the lower damage when hitting wound threshold as well
if you have to ask...
like something like this should be obvious to catch
The what
Sir melk actually waffling this week istg
Idk anything about Vet
"we heard your concerns that fire was too dangerous, so we made it uninstall your game now."
with any playtesting
Nice, and here I was thinking to roll curios 
Helbore nerf
xD
Helbore now deals about 60% damage to maniac
Instead of 116-180%
Rip
Not sure about the new Chainaxe
helbore more like sells-no-more LMAO
yikes
Hm
It has absolutely WILD single target damage, but the clear is pretty shit
Tbf its not a big big deal.
Idk
is deadshot any good on builds that don't specifically build for crit or is my point better off spent elsewhere
Not the first time they would stealth nerf
if helbore is an actual issue and it gets reported, it might make the fire hotfix
shovel or power sword for life
it probably won't, but it might
yes, but the single target is extra nutty
yea it probably pairs better with a columnus over a plasma gun
yeah for sure
it was great with the agri brauto
but it has the same old problem of really needing the 10% AS
i got overrun by hordes that a power sword easily cleaves through, let alone a shovel and itrs infinite dodges
on a side note, fire is fucking ridiculous now?
yep.
it kills in a second if you have broken toughness
It's gonna get nerfed 100%
yeah idunno i dont really think im gonna use the shovel as my mainstay
If you by any chance have no toughness on a fire you instantly implode
We heard you all were getting annoyed at instant toughness loss at fire
So we have made fire just outright murder you
monkey's paw curling if ieve ever seen it lmao
What about istant life loss at fire? 
it doesnt delete instant toughness, it just deletes you
Fatshark is full of monkey paws
The damage on toughness now is super fair tbh
please fatshark give me gloryhunter for plasma im begging
oh honestly
the damage isn't even the biggest problem
the fucking flamer now god damn hit an enteir football stadium with how big the spew is
there already are
ye but not rolling it after like 10 of them
Yeah fire is really stupid now, hope they revert the changes tbh.
rng gods forever in my favour
o rip
is exhilarating takedown still bugged?
yo melk you sure?
fuck thats a beaut
gonna try out the new shovel
managed to one shot a mutant
no
No, it has been fixed for 2 patches now
goodbye power sword shovel is my new friend
Catfish said new fire will be toned down via hotfix
do you build the new shovel same as old or lean into the special?
why is everyone excited about a shovel ?
He doesn't know the power of shovel
How can u not get excited about a new way to deliver the emperor’s bonk
Oh did she, nice. Cause you basically insta-die unless you're a 570hp Ogryn now.
The new Laspistol needs a fix tho
power shovel*
The red flare on crit is obnoxious
...
How do people feel about new layout of vet tree? I don’t think it saves many trait points but it does make it somewhat easier to skip the garbo stuff
Found the fking helbore bug

laspistol? You mean DL-44 40k edition 
They swapped Unyielding and Maniac damage
It's still 21 points to get to the bottom with survivalist, but you still have enough points to get good stuf
uncanny / decimator on shovel?
I skip the keystones 🤷♀️
One tap bullwarks
The Keystones do nothing for Plasma so i just ignore them and blast shit same as before
Pick axe function I'm suree
Will be fixed next year
pick up?
Fartshart on Christmas break
Wait no. Unyielding is also bugged
Its supposed to have reverse fall off. It doesnt
or is d amage too low
halp what do i do here? should i roll this one or eat the uncanny strike? i already have one with lower stats, but better perks, decimator 3 and uncanny strike 3 on it
Uh, does that only apply for some people
im a bit happy and confused as i now feel like im overspending in a single side of the tree
Are we compiling bugs to laugh about next year when they come back?
yes
Im waiting for the Vet toughness bug to comeback but on every class
Did they normalize the plasma charge rate damage
The HB damage this patch is...
wack
On my way back from work, how's the new patch treating yall?
How the fuck did they manage to bug Helbore
Helbore is bugged now?
In a patch that doesn't have anything to do with it
plasma gun bugged rn a little
Plasma has been bugged since release
The new las pistol was deleting elites in no time at all, like many died in 1 to a few shots depending on the enemy and where I hit them. Shits great.
I thought they fixed plasma guns
I can still one shot trappers and I have the same exact breakpoints as before
Mk2 helbore
Where did they write that?
In the patch notes?
Somewhere towards the bottom
Shoot a flamer in the head
Nothing in any patch notes saddly left click is still affected by left click damage
Is this a hoax
The screenshot above tho
what roles do the new shovels fill?
Did they lie
That was a bug?

Yea, regular headshot is like 1100+, crit headshot 1 hit kills
What mk
Mk 1?
why shoot when u have to aim , just chuck grenades
whats the perks for the new revolver?
Mk2
They did mention fixing it, whether they actually did, no one knows
wait
So attack speed on the Celerity stimm also applies to firearms, and it's REALLY funny
thats the bug?
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
On my current builds, it saves about 2-4 points just from pathing. That's a huge boost imo since the tree was sitting about 1-2 points too tight
We are so OP now lol
I knew my title was accurate
I do the same damage with volatile plasma on primary fire now
I already theorycrafted a build for revolver for when I come back home
To see if my old build is trashed now or not
Vet is so fucking back
Also regular headshot being 1100 makes no sense
mmm. i feel like the way we worded the bug and the way Fatshark worded the bug is whats confusing me.
But if the Bug is fixed, idgaf how they type it.
Looks fine to me
Tbf, we never left, we did need an adjustment period though
Shoot a flak gunner
HB is supposed to have 0.7x flak mult and 1.1-1.8x maniac mult
How is it doing more damage to flak than maniac?
I have +25% maniac on mine
First Skyrim gets updated and now this???
What’s the point of living
Skyrim got an update?
Yea thats scuffed
When?
Way lower than its supposed to be
Today.
Shoot the flak gunner.
My modding communities are in shambles rn
Now look at what the Helbore is supposed to have vs flak vs maniac
I had more or less the same exact dmg as pre-patch
just unpatch it then
True but now I can actually buildcraft again
Well yeah that goes without saying
and not be shuffled into one playstyle
Shoot the flak gunner
oh noooo all of your nudie mods are broken 💀
then look at your stats.
Fair fair, that much I agree
There is no way a hb does more damage to flak than maniac
At no distance is that possible
Never used those, I'm concerned about my coop mod
first mancunio campaign helm goes so well with the 21st gear
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
ong
i thought that 🙂
I don't get nude mods tbh, like wanking and gaming should be separate.
Is nothing sacred anymore?
battalion buddies 😁
Nothing was sacred to begin with
This is the internet
pin
Show?
💀
The ultimte Betaran
better angle
just reading threw responses to the changes, your huffing copium if you think we are not still in a beta
Looks nice
Thoughts on the new chainaxe?
Love it
Light doesnt hit one guy and take 17 years to finish
feel like I can actually clear hordes
I like the cancelling, the overhead heavy is sick af, the shove riposte is interesting
lol
Nice, Got a blue 410 lasgun
Having the chaxe auto weak spot for those heavies is stonks
So I brought to the new Chainsword to Damnation, went pretty alright. Had Savage Sweep tho
I've been rocking with this since I wanted to try it
I wasn't impressed with the non-special heavy
and it's been doing me well
The new mk 3 shovel is really good imo. Special to stab someone in the brain
There's a fine balance between pointing out the lacking aspects of the game and complete disregard of what the game is fun/good at. I think you're just being contrarian for the sake of it.
The new revolver is mid. It lacks the ads and dps for breakpoints
How much did the changes to old revolver affect stuff?
Surely this build works now, right guys
kek but if there's a sniper on the other side of the map gfl getting him 😂
Unironically, some people are happy when they are unhappy
the new revolver is great
@serene sage nah fr tho💀
Plasma is bugged with random invisible shots but they do not seem to affect dmg. Just jarring
This is big
why would they make stacks of focus go away when in ADS mode? the very thing pewpew veteran is encouraged to do all the time
karking gas globadier is back
What
Another core Vermintide 2 mechanic that took them a year to bring over to 40K
Is that just gifting the stim to the other player, or forcibly stabbing them with a drug needle?
you can do both
A move from Karnak Twin
special action to give or RMB + LMB to stab them with the needle
If u don’t kill them in time they throw a green gas bomb and vanish
Speaking of, how common is that boss set
had two rock up in my three games i played
Got it every map so far
But it’s only 1 for me
Is there a keybind for venting heat on plasma? If so what does it bind to?
I can't wait for some blueberry to stick me in the ass with some stimmies in the middle of a fight
It fucks off if not killed fast enough
special action
It's the special
might've cranked teh appearance rate up for the first few days, similar to new missions being perma-available for a little while on release
Its not just the new map? Every mao can get it
thx!
Any bonus for killing?
Didn’t notice
how close is close quarter damage
So basically, ogryn shield and wait
close

8 meters or less
8m
i asked that without really having a mental reference but thanks lol.
basically melee range but also 'oh shit i need a gun right now' range
I dont get meters in games like how am I suppose to visualise that in your game
got it
be australian
ALSO NO MORE TOUGHNESS FIRE DMG
Erm use ping?
I've heard fire is op against health now.
Yes, it just deletes health instead
Fuck
if someone is down and cooking and youi pick them up it'll instant kill them
Well that sucks
it did to me
Bug, will get hotfixed I'm sure
Monkey paws moment
its not a bug
it does more damage the longer you're in it
Its like wishing for a new gun but getting a nerf gun instead
new vet tree makes buildcrafting much easier which is nice
i can finally incorporate focus fire into my builds
i mean i could before but it was just a straight line down
I can go sideways yeh
now i can actually build
before it was literally down and maybe one deviation if you are lucky
I can have regen grenades on all my builds now
At work, is there a way to look at a list of the weapons in the game? like a site?
Is there a breakdown on which chain weapons are best for each situation?
use your imagination
Game lantern site. It's updated
I saw mention that some (all?) are better for horde with lights
Game lantern is really on point
good on them
I think they might have early access to the tree even
Cause 3 times now they release new tree along with new patch
used to be axes were heavies for hordes
dunno whats changed with them now
damn wtf
i was playing auric on the new map, fuckin all of the sudden my whole fireteam was kicked out
I've always been a big eviscerator and chainsword lover so I'm interested to see how the new ones compare and what to look for.
did anyone get the same bug?
people are on point doing new builds like a couple hours after update
i'm really liking this update, especially after getting used to vet on patch 15
Heavy eviserator xv fucks
Melee vet eating good
all vets eating good
I never use melee on vet but I should give it a go
oh no wonder my tree reset
Why not? Vet melee is amazing
no wonder i feel underpowered as shit
Like as good as zealot amazing
i've been doing shovel melee vet
I just always specced into shooting and all my melee rolls suck
what weapons do you guys use on your infiltrate vets
Vet melee goes crazy, honestly more fun that zealot for me since hammer is just ok at best
its good enough that shovel feels like a normal weapon that's not defensive
what are peoples favourite melee weapon then?
personally i use shovel and brauto/infauto
There's not 3 options of melee vet but the only one is excellent
but tbh idk how i feel about infiltrate
Unironically vet's melee perks are better
rather voc
devil claw.
Than the ranged
You can go mid tree Melee Vet now.
I am a simple man, I press left mouse and want to see everything fall down
How are you building him now?
shovel is really satisfying when you get it to work, dclaw is the same, chainsword just because its
average devil claw gameplay
you know
As he was, but with extra stuff like precision strikes
a chainsawrd
I will look up a melee build ty
Wait, mid tree melee vet?
And now you can go focus target instead of weapon spec if you want
can be done
You can make it down both the right tree and the middle tree now
Can I share lantern builds here asking for feedback?
It’s clutch for objectives, revives, and lets you reposition when you get cornered or backstabbed. You can close distance with gunners if melee oriented. I love it
Why not? Mid tree doesn't have ranged exclusive stuff
I am so fucking happy. That's what I was doing a bit before, but I stopped at iron will
That one is even more melee focused since you arent swapping back and forth
doesnt take a billion tax nodes to get trench fighter 
if you're asking for feedback make sure you preface what you're tryna do with your build
It's just general damage and rending which is good for melee
Oh wow.
I looked at the right hand tree but it seems too annoying to keep swapping for me imo
I agree it is so much better
thats fair
what are people thinking with new shovel, same setup or build into the special?
Do you play auric mael?
Holy crap. This looks good.
i tend to lose the buff a lot just due to switching back and forth dependong on what the situation needs
ya
but its nice when its there
Needs more practice with it
I will miss the stagger ngl
I just shoot elites and specials though
Yes
i should meme and go smoke grenades with my infil build
but krak on bosses after infil is kinda funny
i tend to rely on melee since i'm getting used to not running survivalist
maulers/crushers seem louder now
tbf I heavily crutch on survivalist
we all do
yeah, learning to play without it is fun
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a637509-7b50-4e46-8ed3-3321e4c1fabf/lead-from-the-front
I've been running this since P13, melee/support build
ragers no longer being silent is a nice change
kinda threw me off initially the special coming through on angle
you really become conscious of your ammo usage
hows pickaxe shovel compare to pokey power sword
if melee build, what is a good ranged weapon then? Plasma?
depends on what your melee and grenades are
Volver, Plasma, Laspistol, anything you can swap to easily
whatever your melee doesnt do
Fixed Issue where 'Born Leader' didn't replenish toughness of allies when the player was at max Toughness.
does this mean what I think it does????
aight ty
I think so
Yes. Plasma support builds just got even more nutty lmao
Triple krak and plasma, this is the way
but in a pinch you can use them for a small stagger
my melee vet uses the mk6 power sword
the power sword fantasy is off the charts with it
I'm unsure if precision strikes and rending strikes are worth it on a melee/support build using a chainsword
Precision is 100% worth
Does the MG4 lasgun swap fast enough to work too? I love that thing with the auto mod.
The kantraels dont like being up close
presc strikes is good, rending is meh, depends really
Does the new chainsword have horizontal or vertical lights?
So its prolly not a good option
time to rock my toughness coil Vet
Either way precision is worth
:P
Was already going for iron will and figured +25 toughness isn't bad and rending strikes seemed easy but not vital.
got a cap of your shovel?
i normally pick rending for high damage weapons that can use the boost to carapace, something now like the revolver is nice but its not necessary like you said
Tbf this means even a non limbsplitter can 2 shot
thoughts on the new weapons?
love the revolver, havent tested the rest yet
i like the new revolver an chainaxe, not as big a fan of the 2 new chainswords
played around with the new shovel in psyk but it was only grey
new shovels are neat
Then is Bring It Down better?
it depends on your weapons and what you do with them
did the shovels always have the special attack?
Not the spike one
i like bring it down purely for destroying beasts of nurgle
it had a stunlock poke
whats the build for this one
and it helps with reapers occasionally
wdf
yeah i like the new one a lot more
BONK
good stuff
its cool but i like the safety of devil claw parry vs ragers
thoughts on the new chainsword?
dogshit
FINALLY
yeah i dont like it
SHOVEL SUPREMACY
new tree goes HARD
its horde clear is trash
you can take some BUSTED shit
https://gyazo.com/19bc9df9e092ff4a96972bcef263df22 these updates are wack this was 900 yesterday
the attack patterns dont make any sense
holy shit
ah all my shit is reset. what did they change now
did melk reset early for this update?
this one is weird and dumb
for shovel is uncanny strike or limbsplitter better
every time I finally start getting my vet builds sorted they frag the whole thing
complex being easy to get now is quite nice
Im not feeling it with new chainsword
thoughts on the new eviserator?
THIS
this perk is dumb
its like a combat axe but with no brutal momentum and no horizontal sweeps
I love its push attack, its a revving poke
"crouched" is a very generous word here
One of the better ones in that cluster lol
because you can dodge while crouched and keep your stacks
Sliding is crouched
like dont get me wrong the one its competing with is REALLY GOOD
u dont have to take the stupid orange talents now 
but this one lets you just have it up at all times
I read on reddit Focus has old camo (90% threat reduction) built in
what's the ideal veteran height? any relevant gameplay impact?
big woman or bust
New knife?
new knife and revolver please
bigger = bigger hitbox but more speed by a tiny amount that isn't super substantial iirc
but no, not relevant
or new knife and chaxe
Yeah
love you
yeah new revolver kicks ass

the fact that it can also be equipped on zealot kinda scares me
wait height impacts speed?
Does missing shots with it feels less punishing than on the zarona?
What blessings and perks?
by like barely anything but that also has the trade-off of a bigger hitbox
either way it barely matters
Good Lord how do you get it to that much damage
So we know what's getting changed next patch 
So it's only braced? No ADS?
It has 80+ ammo compared to 50+
no ads
gg
braced, speed loader
being taller makes hitting heads easier aswell
It's a glasscanon build with few, if any toughness regen
holy shit
based
Missing 1 mobility, trash it
does it have ironwill?
did i hear a rock and stone?
new light shovel is same as old shovel but with differnt light pattern and special
dude just gave me a 380 lol
Different Heavy too
not relly
grenade perks strong 🦾
something to note for people who havent checked out the new weapons: new revolver has a speedloader and reloads all its rounds at once
based of you let me in on the meme. thank you. i was losing my mind.
instead of 1 at a time
So Plasma gun has a no fire bug
when do you use the rev on chainsword, against big health targets?
Heavy1 is diagonal topright to bottomleft
Heavy2 is overhead swing
Spaghetti code go!
yes
Rashad and old revolver melee vet build new map hishock. 
the problem with most op vets guns is that they arent the plasma gun
what should I do with this?
Plasma Gun is bugged rn though and you can’t spam fire without ghosting
shoot heretics
it's trash anyway 😦
"Fixed issue with "Limbsplitter’’ affecting melee attacks on ranged weapons if you had a melee weapon with the blessing equipped."
Nawww
i love the new knife on zealot
faily normal roll on plasma gun, still kicks ass
perfect bullshit to spam more chorus
yes i know the crit blessing is better i dont have it
Whats the push attack
Can't wait for the twin horny posting
straight jab in front
What does it chain into
same as old chainsword?
please don’t even talk AB it bruh the darksouls fandom is already more than enough
ye
really unsure about the heavy heavy laspistol, the sound make me nut and the fact that is better against armor(?) but compared to the old one it still feels a bit worse
i dont need more porn of random knights
Both heavy and light that is
well i DO like the chainswords push attack
reving it and shoving into the skull of a special always feels so good
Hadron is an old hag but look where we are
What heavy does it chain into
The heavy laspistol has a single problem, the portal to hell every time you crit
?
Thats how u reach it i guess
@serene sage unrelated, did a new series of class objectives get added 4 outfits
Push attack into H3
like they did last time
That.
thats fucking funny
tbh might be one of my fave headgears
Wait r u saying special attack or push attack
Every single crit you get that shit
bro got phasers set 2 deepfry
need halp. 10% toughness reduction (i have ironwill) node or +25 toughness??
with great power comes great muzzle flash
or 5% hp
I like to think that it's Sauron looking back at you
Born leader is dead 
i really, really like finally having an actually good headpiece for zealot
KEEP YOUR HEADS DOWN HERETICS
Bruh the new Chainaxe lights sound so wimpy, they gave it the bully club sound

I cant yet need to get back from work
what does born leader do again?
And I'm not sure about how slow the heavy attack is
nice axe
btw, which is better on yellow tags keystone without 8 stacks: stam+toughness heal or damage buff?
god the fact you can fan the hammer
plasma LMB feels weird now
is DOPE
sometimes the animation doesn't properly play
are u trying same shovel as me ?
Im glad this axe didnt brick
its pretty innaccuraate if you do it while moving
just gotta replace block and hope the blessing i get is good
I mean yeah but still its fan the hammer
as a Hunt Showdown diehard, that's dope af.
its good yes
It wastes a point
What you running on this revolver?
no actually, what does it do?
damn the new bugs are a bit annoying
What does the new chainsword do?
warcrimes
What
less than the old one
is the new laspee still instant draw. im stuck at work still and i must know
it doesn't cost 8 trait points to use too
Any toughness YOU gain, 15% of that is given to your teammates within your coherency
So whats new ?
nah fuck my teammates, they can generate their own damn toughness
Heres what to do if you have born leader
New shit shovels
okay so what one is the BAD shovel
you unselect born leader and take for the emperor
I've heard one is good.
does anybody know if new outfit quests got added
fucked up

there's the freemium cosmetics.
Is that it?
How is it on a dh?
if you played before the 17th.
shame its on my Psyker
No new map ? Or anything ?
why is there always like 4 variants of the same weapon tho
i assume you mean a better pistol and not "better than instant draw speed", cause that would be a feat
so that you have options?
We already had a new map during part 1, we got another mission in the new zone on part 2.
saw devs say they need to finish taking down old servers before new missions end up in rotation
Tbh between the eyes sucks cause you can get suppression immunity with talent, ghost is better imo
No. Theres 10 new weapons total
Fan the hammer revolver, four new shovels with pick axe mode, new heavier laspistol, chainaxe, evis, and chain sword
cowboy revolver, stimms (lf2d pills and adrenaline and more), new map, new boss, new chain weapon marks
Oh my god, I can actually get keystones and it doesn't feel like a huge sacrifice
new map is in rotation already
its the stats from Brunt I was more impressed with, perk is nice too
lfd pills were temp health
chainaxe is the old good new chainweapon
oh did they change our point system for vets finally?
less bloat???
new fire is insane
pills here
the other 2 aint great
same concept, different effects
Yes way less bloat
@formal lake hate to bother you but I'm just curious what blessings and perks you have on the revolver in that clip
btw, I am considering the usage of the stamina regen tagging keystone augment, since my columnus IAG build needs deadshot to work, and I end up blowing all my stam in a literal second...
oh i think i understand what you you were saying now
no, just ways to get AROUND all the bad shit
more things next to eachother instead of above and below
Tree is definitely better, I wouldn't call it way better
so you can just choose to not take a bunch of nodes
The skill tree is so much better now
yes
More compact, a little bit more wide than before so you don't have to go as long
Dead perk?
I had actual points to spare and i could weave around without feeling bad
But yes, I like the three-node option points. It helps pass up some chaff
Ah ok
huh.
time to look at my stealth build again.
did they seriously only network the bottom of the tree & nothing else
on the new volver?
this is great lol
Yuh
surgical gets more mileage imo
i still think fully loaded should be base kit as well as scavenger
new revolver dope af.
it’s probably better than surgical unless you’re not using the fanning
On the fan revolver?
They didn't make it any easier to pick up ammo aura if that's what you're asking
if you’re not using the fanning, then just use old revolver
spare some plasteel
if youre not using the fanning you should probbly just use the other revolver
You have Scavenger and two incredibly mid auras
not sure, first logon since patch dropped and still checking stuff
wow +5% movement speed
Right
Surgical is better for zarona
wow +5% dmg
Idk about agri
do you want pseudo infinite ammo or basically nothing???
why take either when free ammo
...
pls daddy
yeah exactly lmao
So do you think crucian is best? Also you got deadshot for the clip right
have fun
Worth it for once
gotta redownload me mods again
Oof I dropped like 900k to make a decent Agri revolver this morning
So how do we feel about the Vet changes?
what are your guys thoughts on the shovels
effectively the exact same melee build i had b4 this tree redux is cool
good
mk 7 top toer?
no more braindead straight lines
tier
old and new?
new laspistol sounds like a lascanon lmao
What did you gain though
Nother question, anyone here run marksman's focus? Just wondering if it's better than I think it is
i can take more of the perks i want and dont have to take as many perks i dont care about
Anyone managed to find new shovel till now? How it is?
Vet tree has rushed high school essay vibes at the bottom now
worth it and swapping the perks or nah?
which shovel do u think is best one
Nah not worth
Isn't lawbringer the bad one for vet?
Thx man
it’s so so unless you really want to dump ammo into hordes to get stacks
Only Hit n Run is okay on that one sadly.
it can potentially one shot crushers and maulers with the special so yea it works xd
no goddamn idea i don’t drool over the stats & never pay attention, so long as im having fun & staying alive on like auric damnation it don’t matter
Camo though, passive generation
I read plasma has issues ?
True. I honestly didn't notice any real change from my build either.
it disappears if you’re mobile though, sprint sliding takes two stacks at a time
plasma has missing audio and visual ques when firing sometimes
the alternative to that is a gimmick which is terrible
Hot take, remove backpacks for all classes apart from vet
this is ideal, just tells us that they streamlined it so that nothing crazy changed but gave us more options
It works? It doesn't feel like the stacks make or break anything for me during normal gameplay but when I shoot a captain when his shield is down with a MG4 lasgun with the critical weakspot blessing at max stacks I can see it
Ogryns deserve backpack :<
they exist, you just gotta pay for em
Build wise plasma seems very pooger
backpack noob
okay big man gets to keep it
Oh I have the fancy ones, its just
they are also bad. LOL
i want more chest pieces with this bag system cuz i love assbags
like the shit the dude's wearing in the menu
i run backpackless on all my classes
Why do people use shovels, knives etc?
Yea but there's plenty of moments to position and maintain stacks
As for this and message above 1 i know
2 im at work and network is crappy. Cant load eitger twitter or the bulletin site
Yeah ik, I just don't know if it's AS bad as I think it is
i play in 3rd person cuz it lets me see more & the bag physics enrage me
bonk
It seems like there's no real reason to not use a chainsword, powersword etc
Knives are for toxic 1000 speed zealots
this fucking antennae FLOPPING AROUND EVERYWHERE
Gotta get that WWI aesthetic
bugs the SHIT out of me
Right
yeah, it’s not impossible, like i said, it’s so so
any changes to this? shout with bolter and csword
the green & blue bags flying like a cape, the black bag having a jiggly ass & the radios having huge ugly antennaes
fuck dat noise !!
but the keystone itself punishes movement and only rewards headshots, thus for normal gameplay it’s just so so
THANK YOU
higher base damage especially with the right perks
Probably get rid of one of the keystone mods for suppression immunity or a melee node
Feel like you'd rather have Onslaught with the bolter no?
ill be honest i do hope they add better options sooner rather than later cuz what we have now stinks
I made this crap for pure ranged plasma and it feels like straight up upgrade in all circumstance from last patch
why onslaught with shattering?
i would absolutely wear a bag if it looked & behaved like an actual bag
(in appearance)
Antac Axe with brutal momentum just works without any power up.
is max wound curio +2? ive yet to see one in 100 hours
bro i got the same build no way
Yeah like personally I think a movement restriction in a movement shooter is backwards logic, but I might try it out again and see if the stacks stay for long enough to have effectiveness and I can still play as mobile as I do notmally
Normally*
Well if you run shattering then never mind
but I like to wear one because the krieger top looks so weird without something there
the blue bags they added in the update R cool but those R like camping bags bruh i rucked wearing BS like that
nobody';s wearing that in2 a firefight
onslaught works kinda bad with the bolter, it works best with high ROF weapons that can get brittleness fast
+1 only
i can't handle the krieg top cuz no coat physics
rip
call me a bitch
You did not just call this a movement shooter
Have you ever mag dumped with a bolter?
Is the new Chainaxe good?
an argument can be made
You walk throughout the entire game
Darktide is a pve coop game yes
Idk, I kind of like the backpack in this fit
yes, onslaught may make a one shot difference on crushers if you get consistent weak spot hits
I think they should remove the krieg fit next update.... overated
U must be fast as fuck dude, the regular movement speed's a jog
if ur walk is a jog i wonder what ur sprint is
Lmfao you get what I mean
i do lol im just being an ass
for vet bolter i recommend pf surg imo
But yeah darktide 100% has a shooter aspect as compared to vt2
And you move throughout the entire game
Played a couple matches before leaving for work. Preliminary judgement; I like the new tree.
Guess i will put down my hellbore though
pf surg?
the zealot knife builds certainly fit in2 the movement bit though
Not as fast as Doomguy tho
Fr
He be zoomin
Or will I ? 
I just got back from work, I want to know everything about the shovels and laspistol
What does this mean? It gives no further info on what the issues are. The curio has +15% Toughness, 5% Health, 5% Toughness, 15% Dmg res vs Gunners
Movement shooter is a shooter that focuses on high speed or intricate movement
Like titanfall or ultrakill
pinning fire surgical, as the blessings
Doomguy the zoomer boomer shooter
You can pretty much fullsprint and move normally with the focus keystone, just land headshots, skill issue 
not just like... walking and running


