#veteran-class

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candid tundra
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Seriously they buffed bombers?

slow spade
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Was joking, patch notes literally didn't touch recon

pulsar shore
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I restarted the game and now is showing

hollow cloak
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i'm not saeeing it but i didn't test it like tha teither

slow spade
candid tundra
slow spade
candid tundra
pastel geode
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I ended up with this as my new build

hollow cloak
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just hard carried a maelstrom game with vld las gun tho

candid tundra
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I'm relying on you gugs

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Guys

slow spade
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"Slightly" my ass

slow spade
candid tundra
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Right, thanks

teal abyss
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How did they change Helbores? So you can just hold the shoot button and the gun will continually charge up and shoot instead of having to repress the button for every charge? I was a little confused by the wording

candid tundra
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Any changes to marksman's focus or does it still have that dogshit movement restriction

sour elbow
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I'm loading in to look at my vet builds-and what I can make now. How's everyone finding the patch?

dapper agate
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I wish they would combine the bomber/flamers into one perk. Maybe just have a fire resistance perk or area damage resistance that covers fire/BoN bile etc.

abstract moth
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Ohhhhg

pulsar shore
sour elbow
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I'm curious about the chainsawd stuff.

abstract moth
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I see new shovel

karmic musk
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I hold shots to aim

abstract moth
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Nice

teal abyss
stark saddle
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servers down?

karmic musk
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Im testing it in Psykhanium, seems to be same behavior

abstract moth
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Now why didn't they make us being able to use 2 shovels, that would be an amazing idea

karmic musk
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Charge still holds the charged shot

dapper agate
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They still left the grenade tax in 💀

noble zinc
round jetty
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cant find the new mission

abstract moth
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The shoveintor

small echo
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Is there any guns that do not require specific blessings to be good?

karmic musk
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Ah I see the change, if you continue holding, it will charge and hold for the max duration before releasing, then it will charge and repeat again

slow spade
pastel geode
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Melk's being goofy with his offers

serene sage
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holy shit we are so OP now

noble zinc
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But it does mean you can oneshot ragers with the chainsword special heavy if you hit it in the head

pastel geode
noble zinc
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which is quite hard considering the angle it comes in at

teal abyss
serene sage
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we just gained 3 extra points bro

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and no more dead nodes

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like born leader and stuff

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and no compensation nerfs

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vets are OP now

abstract moth
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3 points? Noice

slow spade
karmic musk
slender turtle
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They still were. this change didnt really do much at all

round jetty
stark saddle
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I still feel super weak tbh

abstract moth
serene sage
slow spade
stark saddle
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i want to be able to comfortably pick up the +10% rending and the +15% damage to elites nodes

slow spade
round jetty
karmic musk
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what's 15% of 5% toughness

slow spade
serene sage
earnest halo
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hows the new update/

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AND NEW WEAPONS?

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BOY OH BOY

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GIMMMI

noble zinc
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Well "new"

serene sage
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I fully expected compensation nerfs for shorter tree

karmic musk
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Does it take 15% of the full CK/ET while you are full

serene sage
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but no

slow spade
serene sage
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we are just full steam ahead

abstract moth
slow spade
untold mulch
runic birch
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Oh wow

slow spade
serene sage
abstract moth
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Kek just teasing

river silo
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anyone tried out the new shovels?

runic birch
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This just happened

bold ibex
slender turtle
karmic musk
slow spade
runic birch
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Reckon lasgun good?

untold flame
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No bolter buffs though staregryn

serene sage
slow spade
crude wind
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Here come the people that come out every single patch to piss and whine, then leave 3 days later

serene sage
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what do you have?

abstract moth
untold mulch
river silo
crude wind
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Vet can 1 shot crusher with new axe

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it's sick

slender turtle
unreal sapphire
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Praise the Emperor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

serene sage
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no Boltgun change feels bad but whever

karmic musk
slow spade
runic birch
candid tundra
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Damn is the new chain axe good?

untold mulch
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Ngl, at this rate I legit want to ask directly to the Dev team

"About the Recon guns?....WTF!?"

crude wind
tall sleet
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the new tree looks like such a mess in the patch notes lol

serene sage
river silo
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we still had a shit ton of complaints

candid tundra
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So lights are better for hordes?

drowsy sluice
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chain gang time

river silo
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esp with how goofy old surge staff was

crude wind
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I wouldn't call it OP

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the lights aren;t great

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they have maybe 3 cleave

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the heavies are amazing though

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it's an elite killer

slender turtle
delicate moat
slow spade
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Need buff confirmed

karmic musk
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Oh no next patch nerf

river silo
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ya but they weren't nearly the worst class after they got those buffs

crude wind
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how is that OP, i could do that before update

runic birch
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Why can't I get help instead of being a dog

river silo
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i'd have put that on ogryn

crude wind
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with several different weapons

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maybe like, buff bosses

slow spade
dapper agate
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Well after remaking my builds it does seem like the Vet tree is better then before. I have a couple extra points for most builds, but I still think the grenade taxation is a bit shit.

karmic musk
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So the old Chainaxe has almost the same patterns as old Chainsword now lol

serene sage
tall torrent
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I don’t like this part but it’s still better than before

drowsy sluice
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think its worth from Melk?

grim walrus
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Let us see how much Hadron likes my Tech-Heresy.

karmic musk
crude wind
abstract moth
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@delicate moat that's me when I throw smoke grenades

crude wind
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worth it for blessings if u need either and don't have T4

serene sage
tall torrent
half wigeon
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IS New laspistols good ?

slow spade
serene sage
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which is one fewer dead node

tall torrent
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I’m taking 50% suppression

crude wind
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Born Leader is fucking terribad lol

karmic musk
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Still?

earnest halo
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so

slender turtle
earnest halo
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question

crude wind
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better off taking the 5s boost for team imo

tall torrent
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Born leader is like, who’re u trying to feed toughness to

earnest halo
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whats the difference with the

slow spade
earnest halo
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new weapons

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like the las pistol

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does it do more damage?

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is it full auto?

slow spade
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Not full auto sadly

crude wind
earnest halo
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like I dont see a visual difference (other than them looking different obv)

bold ibex
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I think the new chainaxe will unironically make the weapon good. They made some key changes with its moveset... basically.

Light swings are just infinite crowd-cleaving arcs. They do /not/ cause rev animations, so you're not gonna get stuck in a carapace enemy.

Heavy swings are infinite strikedowns which do rev for extra damage.

Special attack is a strikedown which I /think/ gets more damage than the normal chax strikedown.

tall torrent
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Ogryn infinite regens toughness in a horde
Zealot infinite regens toughness in a horde
Psyker can use peril to regen toughness

grim walrus
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Semi

grim walrus
tall torrent
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Who’re u feeding toughness to, seriously

karmic musk
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Old Chainaxe seems good now

earnest halo
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old chainaxe is like

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my highest grated weapon

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I just fucking hate how it looks

slow spade
vernal sundial
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Downloading the update now, how is the reworked talent tree?

grim walrus
river silo
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p good imo

versed merlin
river silo
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still bad auras

slow spade
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Deadshot users want teh stam

naive hatch
river silo
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but the bottom of the skill tree is no longer 9 straight lines

tall torrent
versed merlin
umbral scaffold
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what was the hidden thing they added into the game?

crude wind
dapper agate
river silo
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this is a yummy melk find

toxic leaf
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so that chainaxe, someone tell me what ot think

crude wind
serene sage
river silo
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just need to slap hand cannon over run n gun, and maniac or carapace over elites

topaz lance
crude wind
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indeed

crude wind
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Suppression is an utterly useless mechanic

candid tundra
toxic leaf
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i still have this chainaxe sitting profane in my inventory

crude wind
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so unfortunately ur stuck with Born Leader (ugh) and 5s of piss boost

serene sage
versed merlin
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has anyone cooked a specialist build yet? 👀

slow spade
crude wind
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btw I think this mark is better for Veteran then the new mark

versed merlin
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i really want to try that new las pistol

topaz lance
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Can anyone confirm that the new revolver cannot ADS?

crude wind
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the heavies are super fast and CC now

abstract moth
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Ohhh thers anew knife

karmic musk
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Anyone tried new Chainsword?

toxic leaf
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shovel and chainaxe buffed, good day to veteran

grim walrus
crude wind
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and the light rip 1 shots all specials

snow pendant
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new revolver dont ads

crude wind
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except mutie

serene sage
river silo
snow pendant
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it shoots faster

livid monolith
topaz lance
toxic leaf
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let me in so i can see the new vet tree

bleak dust
eager patrol
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new shovel is fun

river silo
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this side is so messy lmao

snow pendant
toxic leaf
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did the monkey's paw curl

serene sage
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crazy

opal dove
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So... Is the new tree better orginized or what?

slow spade
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Lets me reach all the nodes I want

river silo
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ye im not saying its bad

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im saying its visually messy

slow spade
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And mess around when I want

karmic musk
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Laspistol is still fine, its like very slightly slower than MG IV now?

snow pendant
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new tree is more accessible for things u want

slow spade
serene sage
eager patrol
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i really like that born leader is optional now

dapper agate
# crude wind Suppression is an utterly useless mechanic

Suppresion would be ok if it actually worked on more then 20% of the roster. Should probably also make the enemies freak out and have reduced accuracy for a few seconds after they start returning fire again, Like their hands are shaking or something, kind of like players when they're suppressed. But even then it's still not too useful. Would rather have +5% ranged damage on all the 25% suppression nodes.

drowsy sluice
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what would yall change on this to make it useable for now while i find better?

placid portal
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ngl I dunno what is difference of mk7 and mk4 Shovel

slow spade
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Its so comfy being able to choose between damage and toughness

opal dove
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A minute of silence for our revolvers.

placid portal
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Revolver still recks

crude wind
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mkVII is the good one

slow spade
placid portal
crude wind
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hugely versatile weapon

slow spade
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And that's all I wanted in life

small echo
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Any good burst fire weapons?

cold mason
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How we feelin about the tree changes?

still pollen
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Is it just me or that fire damage is worse now? Fire just melts hp and toughness so fast

zinc hare
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first new laspistol i get from brunts. feels good

river silo
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i prefer the mk3 tbh

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i like sweeping lights

opal dove
viscid sparrow
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btw, what rapid-fire guns are good on vet these days? I feel like columnus mk5 IAG ain't working out for me anymore for some reason...

placid portal
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I tested, still does 1+k pershot

slow spade
trail totem
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is there any uses for the new revolver? am i missing something or is it just irredeemable trash

crude wind
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mk3 has really bad heavies and worse vertical chains than VII

opal dove
river silo
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ya but all special heavies are overheads

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into another overhead

crude wind
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while the 7 has powerful verticals, crowd control heavies and 2 crowdcontrol lights

slow spade
river silo
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should be enough to kill what you want

slender turtle
placid portal
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^^

umbral scaffold
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yeah

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revolver was too good

placid portal
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Maulers still die in 2 shots

crude wind
umbral scaffold
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it was the answer for everything in the game

serene sage
placid portal
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and if you slot carapace you can still 2 tap crushers

serene sage
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Truly outrageous

misty vigil
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what is the crit rating for veteran and new chain sword

crude wind
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5% base rating

halcyon zephyr
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So which mods are broken with this patch

simple basalt
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would yall run anything dif?

karmic musk
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Nice you throw the Health stimm up if you're full hp

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new flex animation

placid portal
karmic musk
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Should let you inject health into enemies for the ultimate flex

umbral scaffold
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inject the power one into a chaos spawn for the fun of it

untold mulch
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GIVE ME HARDER BATTLES

karmic musk
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inject CDR stimm on BoN, watch it vomit everywhere KEKW_ogryn

toxic leaf
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so is exhilarating takedown a good passive to pick up with my spare points now?

umbral scaffold
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yeah

placid portal
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Looks like Xenos are gonna be on the plate for darktide

umbral scaffold
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30% dr fun

halcyon zephyr
serene sage
toxic leaf
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yea i can actually take krak grenade now

stuck bridge
halcyon zephyr
untold mulch
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Damn mods are crashing

fleet drift
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Is the new skill tree good?

tall torrent
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Yes

fallow compass
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the weapon is unmodified. recommendations?

versed merlin
fallow compass
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should i keep the blessings and change the perks?

untold mulch
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Save it until Fatshark bothers to remember Recon exists

versed merlin
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its a recon KEKW_ogryn

fleet drift
untold mulch
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At this point I am actually getting pissed off at Recon treatment

karmic musk
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oh you get mini stunned doing the folded shovelpick attack

fallow compass
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normally i run an auto gun

umbral scaffold
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man, i still think the game needs a talent for weapon draw

halcyon zephyr
umbral scaffold
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bolter would be insane

fallow compass
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the graia mk 8 is what i usually run

viscid sparrow
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this my current vet build concept for a columnus IAG playstyle.

untold mulch
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thjey just don't care

soft solstice
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So veteran shovel lost that 6th dodge, right?

serene sage
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so they nerfed the revolver instead of buffing the bolt KEKW_ogryn

karmic musk
halcyon zephyr
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It's like post-release/second-alpha psykers
underpowered, every patch a nerf

misty vigil
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new revolver borken

topaz lance
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instant reload

versed merlin
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o shit i just noticed i have this in my inventory

karmic musk
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Is VII the better shovel

viscid sparrow
umbral scaffold
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I hope to get mods on my new pistol that I have on my current

fleet drift
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Is the new boss fun?

umbral scaffold
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It's a fucking beast

woeful ibex
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Is brunt's armory bugged?

soft solstice
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I have to give the new shovels a try when I get back from work

frank gyro
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is the mk III and mk vii shovel both new? or did we always have 2shovels

soft solstice
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We used to only have 1 shovel and there should be 2 new ones

versed merlin
frank gyro
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ok got it , cant wait to test them out

soft solstice
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I also feel like the names should be more different for how different a gimmick the special is

versed merlin
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might be able to one shot ragers if built correctly

soft solstice
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I really hoped that the new knife special would have been a parry and not another useless punch

onyx nebula
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Now you can cosplay as an Eversor Assassin by shooting up combat stims to blast through crowds of enemies

woeful ibex
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But no Hellgun

onyx nebula
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Real shame we won't get a boltpistol

crude wind
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not the best roll but it will do for now

versed merlin
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the only people that thinks revolvers are fine are zealot main players

sudden zinc
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now that i can easly get hte marksman keystone the revolver just breaks everything for me

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meaning its even stronger than before

hollow cloak
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the new weapons aren't showing up in brunt's armory

brisk umbra
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Ok the new Heavy laspistol is haunted by Sauron

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Every time you crit, the eye of sauron looks back at you

misty vigil
untold mulch
frank gyro
versed merlin
crude wind
thick rose
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DISRUPTION!

crude wind
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and uncanny is the best blessing

toxic leaf
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how important is the 10% rending for plasma gun vet?

small echo
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Guys what blessing and perks should I get for mg IV Kantrael

crude wind
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for shovel

crude wind
karmic musk
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Still not sure whether to go with MK 3 or MK 7 Shovel

crude wind
crude wind
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sick weapon

toxic leaf
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i have 2 points i flexed into fully loaded and 15% elite damage, dunno where lse to put them

frank gyro
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oh my god the mk7 shovel is aboslutely insane

crude wind
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lots of combos

woeful ibex
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how good is it?

serene sage
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wait so the new stims, are we just picking random needles off the streets infested with Nurgle stuff and just YOLO injecting it to ourselves?

misty vigil
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this mark 3 sapper shovel animation turning it into picaxe is fuckinga wesome

umbral scaffold
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are the stims in every map or just the new map?

serene sage
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like, is that real?

unique mountain
misty vigil
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2 hits to flak armoured

umbral scaffold
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baller

fresh mango
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Do drugs chadgryn

dapper agate
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Sci-fi Universes: Hey that's a nice c96 pistol you got there Germany, mind if we copy and paste our own versions of it into some sci-fi universes?

Germany: thumbsup_ogryn

untold mulch
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I dont fear anything because the Emperor protects me

Can I get an Amen

dull crest
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is deadshot worth it?

pastel geode
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Do drugs, fight bear

untold mulch
topaz lance
misty vigil
umbral scaffold
dull crest
unique mountain
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we can work with this

woeful ibex
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which version of the shovel is better?

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*Newer versions

sudden zinc
frank gyro
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i think the mk7 shovel is the standard issue with a different special

misty vigil
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nicely done

umbral scaffold
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Wait

zinc hare
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New laspistol seems very solid

frank gyro
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so overall id say the mk7? the mk3 has a more vertical moveset.

umbral scaffold
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So quick draw now has the fast reload?

digital sinew
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Omnissiah be praised! This was the first one I got today from the Armory.

topaz lance
zinc hare
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EXCUSE ME

sharp ember
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by the throne, also them crit flares

misty vigil
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i'm going to be doing a lot of videos on this new update for veteran,

if yall want me to focus on something or if you got a comment that you want in the video, reply or send me a dm.

serene sage
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they fixed Born Leader the same patch people stop taking it KEKW_ogryn

digital sinew
dull crest
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guess ill skip it

umbral scaffold
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so what spec for new laspistol? left side?

serene sage
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also rip

versed merlin
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what do you guys think for the new shovel/revolver?

karmic musk
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Do you go Thrust now on new Shovels?

pastel geode
vivid bolt
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Tbh yea that’s nice as fuck

misty vigil
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is that tier 5 with stim?

umbral scaffold
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OH shit

digital sinew
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"You look happy Varlet. Let me change that for you."

topaz lance
umbral scaffold
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That the quickdraw or?

serene sage
umbral scaffold
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MK XIV? or the other one?

violet pebble
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Does anyone know what the helbore change means. So if we ADS and hold primary after firing our charged shot does it keep firing uncharged shots then?

toxic leaf
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frags also save a point if you're going down the left side for survivalist

karmic musk
hollow cloak
umbral scaffold
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Best XIV I got so far

pastel geode
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I go for krak and the damage aura

toxic leaf
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but kraks are just so good in auric when 18 crushers and maulesr come your way

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and you dont have an ogyrn to send them to valhalla

placid portal
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Dunno I find Mk3 Shovel has a faster special hit speed vs mk7's special

delicate moat
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holy shit new tree feels like i have so many points to play with

toxic leaf
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yea

karmic musk
gusty bison
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Im alive

karmic musk
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But you miss the heavy swings

serene sage
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"a bit"

gusty bison
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Whassup

misty vigil
serene sage
toxic leaf
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is catch a breath worth it over get back in the fight?

fast scaffold
misty vigil
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my melee tank leader veteran ❤️ I'M having the hardest time between

onslaught, and Exploit weakness.

i'm thinking of exploit weakness honestly.

umbral scaffold
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Dude

serene sage
placid portal
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Only if you wanna be focusing ranged but not often active unless not intense

umbral scaffold
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I just got my fucking perks set

placid portal
umbral scaffold
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Come on

pastel geode
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I’m gonna have to do a think on what I might be doing wrong cause my team got slaughtered in damnation a few moments ago

misty vigil
hollow cloak
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@crude wind best shovel blessings?

toxic leaf
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this is my tree for plasma vet, im a bit dubious on fully loaded + superority over rending and something else? what do we think

crude wind
# misty vigil

imo they are both sub optimal and you could spend the point better elsewhere

delicate moat
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yeah whats the shovel perks/blessings? flak/maniac + uncanny/decimator?

crude wind
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Decimator number 3

misty vigil
pastel geode
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I don’t think I could’ve with my Agri braced lol

crude wind
crude wind
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like there will be no enemy to be brittle

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it will be melted

misty vigil
pastel geode
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Maybe it’s time I start trying to farm columnus iags

toxic leaf
pastel geode
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Or I could watch the salt flow via recon las

crude wind
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because depending on how you are playing plasma

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you don't need 10% rending

frank ether
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So many good changes in this patch, I'm impressed on first glance

crude wind
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i can see it in weapon swap

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but out of ping/marksman there's no need at all

frank ether
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not a whole lot changes for my vet builds but the weapon changes seem promising

misty vigil
karmic musk
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@crude wind So Mk4 or MK12 Chainaxe?

crude wind
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the lights murder specials as well

karmic musk
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I think similarly

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Miss the heavy swings on the 12

pastel geode
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How’s the new chainsword stacking up vs the old one

crude wind
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and you run Bloodletter for bosses

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  • slaughterer/headtaker for heavy sweeps
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or Thrust if you wanna do the whole thrust thing with it

umbral scaffold
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Braced 1 shot

delicate moat
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wait so which shovel is better now?

frank gyro
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which one should i try to focus on

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or are both ass

toxic leaf
umbral scaffold
crude wind
dreamy lantern
umbral scaffold
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4 shot on shitty setup

dreamy lantern
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plasma does not need maniacs

quaint valve
tall torrent
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Feeling like running this now

bold ibex
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got perk screwed again.

..why aren't all chain special attacks consdiered 'strikedowns'? THey're all single target attacks

placid portal
misty vigil
placid portal
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or 3

umbral scaffold
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1 shot head shot on most others

bold ibex
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but if the attack chain itself isn't considered 'striekdown', revved attacks don't get the single target damage.

placid portal
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but depends tbh

dreamy lantern
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think it lets you hit oshs on crushers think

misty vigil
tight dragon
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damn we can actually get everything now

umbral scaffold
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1 shot with my current pistol

misty vigil
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but with your change, maybe

oblique horizon
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Heya, hows everyone feeling on squished vet tree? Cant play right now

untold mulch
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WHAT THE FUCK

toxic leaf
untold mulch
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HIGH NOON

umbral scaffold
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4 on crushers, The other pistol is iffy

quaint valve
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What the....

karmic musk
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Hmm that new Chainsword seems straight up terrible at horde clear

wary galleon
dapper agate
quaint valve
south garnet
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alright vets what we thinkin? are we less depressed or more depressed?

wary galleon
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cant decide which of the new shovels i like best. i dont see much difference between MK III and Mk IV

toxic leaf
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i can get one point back if i go frag over krak, but i kinda like krak more

umbral scaffold
#

HOLY SHIT

crude wind
umbral scaffold
#

@wary galleon Was

crude wind
#

plasma doesn't get suppressed

karmic musk
umbral scaffold
#

The Combat stim + my high end pistol = Instant 1 shot on most every thing

untold mulch
untold mulch
pine snow
#

We happy with new changes or nah

wary galleon
south garnet
alpine bear
toxic leaf
untold mulch
#

Revolver fanboys wet dream wtf

pine snow
misty vigil
#

I think it's safe to say, Veteran is finally on equal playing field, to zealot and ogryn for the rework.

safe drum
#

Im happy, just because more funny shovels, me like shovels

karmic musk
#

There is no combination of attacks which will let you swing repeatedly on new chainsword

crude wind
misty vigil
#

vero, i love the new chain sword, it's radicle

toxic leaf
#

k

vivid bolt
crude wind
#

yeah if anything Vet is the best class now lol

#

well

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best damage dealer

misty vigil
crude wind
#

ogryn still unkillable

delicate moat
#

woah shovel special can one shot ragers

zinc surge
#

so if i have 200 toughness, and trigger exhilarting takedown(15%=30toughness), my teammates would get like 3 toughness? im crap a math but this appears at first glance pretty mid?

#

with born leader ^

serene sage
#

how do you get 2 close quarter killzone buffs?

south garnet
#

what the fuck
what is the build for this

bold ibex
#

the salt is real

quaint valve
crude wind
karmic musk
#

WTF if you cancel your chainsword special, it takes a SHITTON of stamina

crude wind
#

this happens to me all the fucking time

misty vigil
bold ibex
south garnet
toxic leaf
vivid bolt
#

Vet is usually strong, it’s people don’t have the skill to utilize the strength usually

frank gyro
#

i want to cry what is this

bold ibex
#

i'm still floored there's as much rng as there is.

RNG to get a non-shit brunt roll
Then rng to maybe get two good perks or blessings.

serene sage
#

have you tried being lucky?

karmic musk
#

Better not be pressing that spacebar accidentally

pine snow
#

Build?

crude wind
untold mulch
dapper agate
#

ngl, breaking the symmetry like this is pretty awkward, like couldn't they of slotted something into the node?

alpine bear
stuck bridge
#

Has anyone figured out how to make the hellbores automatic?

crude wind
#

i forgot about Take a Swing!

toxic leaf
#

ok boys wish me luck, hadron pls

crude wind
#

Take a Swing is REALLY GOOD on new shovels

crude wind
#

ty for the reminder

earnest halo
#

HUH?

bold ibex
stuck bridge
pine snow
#

Oh rlly? Idk then

sudden zinc
#

what should i change it already feels realy good i am just contemplating changing unyielding for crit chance and trickshot for crucian but i am not sure

karmic musk
#

Its "automatic"

vivid bolt
#

Fan fire revolver is Veterans Thunder Hammer, have fun

hollow cloak
#

time to test out the new shovels

south garnet
trim hemlock
karmic musk
#

Just a very long "automatic" fire charge cycle

frank gyro
feral lake
#

Any good knife and revolver shit don’t have time to check till tonight

untold mulch
earnest halo
#

how are

gritty mirage
#

Hmmm new patch, ill test after work if they fixed servers for me

bold ibex
earnest halo
#

the chainweapons??

jaunty birch
#

Still have the executioners stance tax lmfao

crude wind
upbeat mortar
#

My take on the new Sly Marbo, anyt thoughts?

crude wind
#

and the push attack is sick

toxic leaf
#

this is the first time ive ever seen t4 on blue

quaint valve
bold ibex
crude wind
#

on the mkVii

trim hemlock
crude wind
#

s tier weapon

#

best traits

quaint valve
crude wind
#

that's the highest of rolls

#

unreal

#

Variance is so crazy

toxic leaf
#

20% though, not 25%

crude wind
#

doesn't matter

frank gyro
#

what else should i change

civic venture
#

So did they actually fix the veteran talents?

quaint valve
#

Still hits breakpoints

unreal sapphire
#

am i high or does they change lawbinger shotgun sounds ?

frank gyro
#

sorry if i spam the almost same image

untold mulch
crude wind
halcyon zephyr
jaunty herald
toxic leaf
#

lol the first 2 upgrades were god tier

#

the second two, not god tier

serene sage
quaint valve
civic venture
#

fix as in "it doesn't take 2-3 more points than other classses to get the bare minimum"

eternal sable
#

actually toxic

untold mulch
#

At this point I am really tempted to make a forum post bitching about Recons

eternal sable
#

get me out

bold ibex
crude wind
woeful hare
#

If they aren't going to make recons viable they should remove them tbh.

south wharf
crude wind
#

S tier weapon

civic venture
#

Veteran was strong but my problem with them was their build theorycrafting was extremely clunky lol

untold mulch
stark hollow
#

alright stinkers, drop yer pants and show me the builds

earnest halo
#

could you imagine being

#

some

#

shitter boss

bold ibex
earnest halo
#

and some dude with a fucking magnum

#

just goes

#

"Its high noon"

#

and drops you under 5 seconds

woeful hare
untold mulch
quaint valve
#

Reaching all the key nodes

untold mulch
#

I remember them

#

Never forget

bold ibex
untold mulch
#

Never Forgive

quaint valve
south garnet
#

wow it's not even really a one trick pony build either

south garnet
#

what the hell

civic venture
vivid bolt
#

Ogryn’s tree is more convoluted than Vet’s rn lol

woeful hare
#

They pushed a change for recons that they didn't even explain whether it was a bug or not.

upbeat mortar
#

I think the worst node layout goes to zealots now

stark hollow
#

shush

tall torrent
stark hollow
#

its balanced and we deserve it

civic venture
#

change that node into the free grenade per 60 seconds. :>

celest vine
#

At work rn

#

Todays vibe

gusty bison
#

Did flamers get ranged damage resist?

quaint valve
#

Looking like 2-3? But main thing looks like a lot of power got moved up and more accessible

gusty bison
#

Oh shit nvm

#

Helbores ate a MASSIVE maniac damage nerf

karmic musk
untold mulch
#

damn

gusty bison
#

Yep

#

Half damage

celest vine
#

The vibe

serene sage
untold mulch
snow pendant
#

cuz u can just stab the maniacs with helbores

unkempt pawn
#

Born Leader worth taking now that it works when you're at full Toughness?

bitter turtle
#

Huh, rager nerf

hybrid elm
tall torrent
bitter turtle
#

Cool

tall torrent
#

To reach keystone

stark hollow
#

is chainaxe good now

stark hollow
#

or nah

celest vine
#

Theee points lets me fully upgrade keystone

fresh mango
#

Thats quite a few more points now

#

les go

bitter turtle
#

Even if you take ck and et

celest vine
#

Plus an extra perk

karmic musk
#

maniac got nerfed?

tall torrent
bitter turtle
#

You aren't feeding much into teammates

quaint valve
gusty bison
tall torrent
#

Left tree is WAY better than before

#

Left has like zero talent tax

karmic musk
thick rose
#

new map pumps

untold mulch
tall torrent
#

And infantry lasguns are actually playable now cuz u reach suppression immunity in first row

stark hollow
#

based gun?

karmic musk
quaint valve
#

Ok so what nodes did we actually lose? Anything important? Are the 25 toughness nodes still there?

tall torrent
karmic musk
#

2 shotting ragers with full charge

bitter turtle
#

But ya much better

bold ibex
# karmic musk Exe Stance tax

exec stance /and/ focus tax. Why go focus when you can just go midtree and get tons of boosts for your entire team while doing the same damage?

sudden zinc
#

@formal lake jo can you post your revolver again? seems like its gone

gusty bison
#

wtf

tall torrent
gusty bison
#

Show tree

bitter turtle
#

1 line of tax instead of like fucking 3

tall torrent
#

It’s not hard for veteran to reach 190~200 toughness now

untold mulch
karmic musk
#

I 1 shotted a trapper but then I'm Hellbore 3

gusty bison
#

My HB2 comfy 1 tapped flamers

tall torrent
gusty bison
#

Now it cant 1 tap a trapper

quaint valve
bold ibex
#

...why doesn't focus regen stamina when the only vet talent that readily spends stamina exists in that three.

toxic leaf
#

wtf i happened again, t4 on blue. i was just fishing for the t3 blessing i wanted lol

gusty bison
#

HB3 should comfy 1 tap rager before patch

tight dragon
#

i'm content with hitting all my breakpoints + keystone + all the grenade talents, extremely comfy

celest vine
karmic musk
#

I can't one shot Flamer tho KEKW_ogryn

celest vine
#

Very funny mask up site

karmic musk
#

Need to Focus Target it

gusty bison
#

What

#

I

#

What

karmic musk
#

Maybe I hit the hand

hollow cloak
#

new shovel pretty good

tight dragon
#

i can at least

celest vine
#

So i get another keystone upgrade and my extra ammo back

tight dragon
quaint valve
karmic musk
#

Torso point blank

river silo
#

@formal lake whats your revolver looking like in terms of blessings/perks?

celest vine
gaunt hinge
#

new chainsword kinda ass

celest vine
#

Or I can take the ammo off and get a fully upgraded keystone

#

Much better

karmic musk
#

No yellow damage this time

#

Def need to ping this now to one shot

hollow cloak
quaint valve
karmic musk
tight dragon
#

how's the horde clear on new shovel?

gusty bison
hollow cloak
#

shovel horde clear still sucks dick when things get serious

quaint valve
#

I'm about to leave work and take the day KEKW_ogryn

gaunt hinge
hollow cloak
#

the pickaxe feature, although very cool, is not enough

gusty bison
#

@woeful junco Yo I dunno if you are here, but is the Helbore Maniac nerf intentional?

safe dawn
misty vigil
#

fire is broken now

balmy flume
#

On the one hand I am happy our tree got fixed.
On the other hand I am gonna bury myself with Warframe a bit more whilst waiting for FatShark to fix up any post-update bugs that will inevitably be there.

misty vigil
#

i want fire reverted

river silo
#

whats the revolver blessings/perks on that?

slim shard
#

Cowboy veteran is real

hollow cloak
#

^

slim shard
#

My dreams

hollow cloak
#

so much damage

crude wind
#

Taking this out for a spin, seems really fucking strong lol

quaint valve
bitter turtle
#

Just realized

#

Man

odd sparrow
#

How are you hitting 11k a pop

bitter turtle
#

Iron will is pretty big again now lol

river silo
#

is that trickshooter + sustained fire + 25% unyielding?

hollow cloak
bitter turtle
#

I stopped taking past patch 14

tall torrent
#

Anyone tried the new knife yet

balmy flume
crude wind
bitter turtle
#

But no more instant fire toughness loss

crude wind
misty vigil
#

flamer/grenadier are stupid deadly now

crude wind
#

Executioner knife

misty vigil
#

warning, DO NOT TOUCH FIRE 3 ticks your dead

bitter turtle
#

Lol

neon briar
#

yeah fire is way more deadly now lol

safe dawn
#

3 ticks after your toughness breaks, to be fair

delicate moat
#

dayum

hollow cloak
bitter turtle
#

Ya then it's even more critical for IW

slim shard
#

Lmao is fire that deadly now,m

hollow cloak
#

good push on it

neon briar
#

im not sure why theyre selling it like they nerfed fire

hollow cloak
#

good headshot

neon briar
#

it kills you way faster now

quaint valve
neon briar
#

massive fire buff lmao

crude wind
#

amazing weakspot damage

hollow cloak
#

but the horde clear is lacking

safe dawn
#

They removed the ability for it to insta-break your toughness, but in exchange it now will kill you if you don't leave ASAP

hollow cloak
#

yes the weakspot is insane for single target

celest vine
#

So the new stim increases the time for the plasma gun to charge?

hollow cloak
#

but i found myself wishing i had that powersword when 8 ragers rushed me down

celest vine
#

Bruh

safe dawn
#

Pretty sure it increases charge up speed, not time

balmy flume
olive pelican
#

what the differnece between the shovels?

half ginkgo
#

Overall I like the new tree. Finally I have some spare perks!

slow spade
#

A shame bombers and flamers are seperate for curios

brazen ether
#

aww man they got rid of the pen for the quick draw revovlver, it can't even go through a pox walker

slow spade
#

I guess I'll have to learn if bombers or flamers slam me more

bitter turtle
#

Bombers imo

balmy flume
bitter turtle
#

It's a lot easier to stop flamers

quaint valve
slow spade
#

Is flame ranged damage (needs to break toughness) or melee (bleedthrough)

bitter turtle
#

Thry have to be close

balmy flume
#

Because an Autogun gunning down a Crusher is hilarious.

slow spade
crude wind
bitter turtle
#

Can't mlg noscope you from 20000 meters away behind cover

crude wind
#

re: horde

karmic gorge
#

So are shovels basically horde control weapons? I've been hard stuck on using my brutal momentum axe and I figured I'd try out the new one

south garnet
#

the carapace/rending nerfs I can understand, but the pen?

brazen ether
slow spade
#

I use plasma in part to charged shot wallbang them

half ginkgo
south garnet
#

WHY

versed merlin
#

bro

#

this new shovel

#

is

brazen ether
versed merlin
#

BIG BONKERS

brazen ether
#

but the new one

#

has no pen

south garnet
#

interesting

slow spade
#

I hope that was an oversight

wraith lion
#

Hey what's the most stable IAG? I wanna use them because they look amazing but that recoil makes me sick

wraith lion
#

Nice

bitter turtle
#

Lowest dmg though

#

It ain't bad but

balmy flume
wraith lion
#

I'm guessing the Columnus is the high damage high recoil?

hollow cloak
#

already had trouble with groups of flak basic enemies

bitter turtle
#

Yes though you can crouch to somewhat negate the recoil on it

quaint valve
half ginkgo
#

BTW, anyone tested if plasma charge rate bug is actually fixed?

pulsar shore
#

Why 3 stamina curio with 75 gear score add only 2 stamina while Im in the game? Im missing something? Is it a bug? clown_hadron

karmic musk
#

Why use new Chainsword when you can use Chainaxe now though KEKW_ogryn

balmy flume
#

@wraith lion not only is Agri the most stable pattern but in your case you probably want one with maxed out 80% stability roll, which should result in the most stable IAG ever.

karmic musk
#

Guess there's always a dark child in every weapon batch

quaint valve
pulsar shore
half ginkgo
#

Rounding I guess

pine snow
#

when hellgun

crude wind
wraith lion
#

God when we get hellgun that'll be the only gun I ever use

pine snow
jagged stream
#

Anyone else crashing when they start up darktide?

half ginkgo
#

Exe stance plasma can now grab ammo node with no sacrifices KEKW_ogryn

pine snow
#

like with goggles and all that

balmy flume
half ginkgo
#

I am happy

slow spade
#

Is fire damage melee or ranged?

hazy comet
slow spade
pine snow
wise nova
#

fanfire revolver goes hard as fuck

karmic musk
#

So uh what to do here, one slot remaining

ancient path
#

wake up to another vet tree rework

wraith lion
#

My biggest issue with New War is that we don't use the Necramech often enough

quaint valve
hazy comet
slow spade
wraith lion
ancient path
#

lol

pine snow
ancient path
#

mood

wise nova
#

yee fuckin haw goddamn

delicate moat
#

god dam this crafting system im out of resources again

balmy flume
mystic belfry
#

Masterwork pistol ranger veteran, is that you?

median belfry
#

IT'S HIGH NOON

wraith lion
hazy comet
#

what's the talent tree for this? Seems to be using a Focus Target keystone

balmy flume
ancient path
#

we going executioners stance or voc for new revolver?

#

i wanna try both

quaint valve
ancient path
#

this tho

sharp ember
#

might need to start putting ordo dockets on my curios again

mystic belfry
#

Right

wise nova
#

whats the roll on that thing btw?

ancient path
#

marksman focus with it may be kinda silly though

wraith lion
#

VoC with new revolver is the closest we get to commisar fit

#

Unless you go the Cain route with a laspistol

balmy flume
pine snow
ancient path
#

doing executioners stance with marksman focus is just overwatch cassidy ult.

quaint valve
#

Shhhh thumbsup_ogryn

simple crest
#

Just got this, is it any good? What should I change?

wraith lion
pine snow
#

oh my bad

slow spade
#

I find it funny as Vet was already really strong last patch just restrictive now its full 👀

placid portal
#

new mission is cool

balmy flume
#

We shouldn’t get a rework or so I hope because now every class can nuke the map.
Previously Vet got nerfed because we alone were nuking map :p

quaint valve
wraith lion
#

No nerfs or reworks anymore, just buff the enemy spawn counts

pine snow
placid portal
#

the shovel mode switch is brutal

wraith lion
#

Nurgle cults get to experience the Imperial Guard fantasy of trying to drown us in their blood

serene sage
#

I agree. But people still cry about being underpowered KEKW_ogryn

slow spade
placid portal
#

Vet definitely good now

sharp ember
#

thoughts on the new melee weapons? new and old (mostly old) chainaxes feel beefy as hell. Shovelpicks are fun but not sure which is better

serene sage
#

Last patch was fine, too once all the getting used to was done

sharp ember
#

Chainsword didn't leave a lasting impression

placid portal
#

Shovel Pick can make some nasty breakpoints with maniac

slow spade
balmy flume
#

Make AI director more unhinged.
Crusher squad randomly emerges from one piss tiny insignificant door your team walked past without spawn sound.
GG NT

celest vine
serene sage
#

This patch we maybe too strong

wraith lion
celest vine
karmic tapir
#

Vets getting the 3rd tree rework

celest vine
slow spade
#

Vet needs a buff

pine snow
#

obese fish is gonna come at us with a sledgehammer warhammer

south garnet
#

vets

safe drum
slow spade
#

Built-in VoC pls

celest vine
karmic musk
#

Seems like straight to Hadron mod is crashing the game frequently

slow spade
wraith lion
#

We need a hellgun because the Vox Caster backpack and Accatran lasgun are not a viable kitbash

halcyon zephyr
#

I just want to shout Shazbot every once in a while

karmic tapir
untold mulch
#

Recon is taking all the nerfs of Veteran

He is sacrificing himself for our sins