#veteran-class
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there is no best really. You have a lot of good options. Depends what you want
there's no way
you can't hit heads with the Braced like you can IAG
Oh, the Columnus IAG has better damage for sure, but you use so much more ammo
which means it's always going to be behind because the finesse damage on IAG is insane
I really want to use shovel because my vet is a kreigsman but I not sure if shovel is viable
Chainsword is good, but I think PS mk 6 has better dps
shovel is great
it is viable and very soon may even be more viable
i fucking love shovel
Oh sweet
@gusty bison so what do you do with it, just spam block and attack or what with that axe is really slow tried in aurics high intensity and felt like a dead weight I did way better with the atrox mk v2, any technique I need to be aware of with the weapon?
Shovel is great
shovel has good interupt and really long range which makes a lot of space around you
rashaad mk2?
Oh, and what's the best gun for focusing down ranged enemies and specials?
shovel goes thunk
Yep
revolver is OP atm
depends are you sniping or are you pushing
Can they at least show us a preview of the veteran tree so we can laugh/cry/oggle it till its out?
Pushing mostly
Columnus IAG
You need a perfect roll and Brutal Momentum to make it feel passable
without question, it's a bit overtuned atm
but there are again, a lot of viable options
Oh, and max height on your character too
Right now I'm really loving the infantry autogun
This video helped me for melee combos
0:00 - Intro
GLOABAL WEAPONS
2:17 - Devils Claw Swords
3:11 - Combat Axes
4:01 - Combat Knife
4:18 - Tactical Axes
5:00 - Assault Chainsword
5:17 - Assault Chainaxe
VETEREAN WEAPONS
5:54 - Sapper Shovel
6:15 - Power Swords
ZEALOT WEAPONS
7:19 - Heavy Eviscerator
7:40 - Heavy Swords
8:39 - Thunder Hammers
9:38 - Crusher
PSYKER WEAPONS
10:23 -...
yeah these are generally the best pushing weapons atm I feel. they have some play at the midrange as well
The enteir point of the Rashaad is that if you get enough damage through Decapitator/Headtaker you start oneshotting everything with Brutal Momentum
Great damage and accuracy
although, hot take, Graia braced might be one to watch
I'm kinda disappointed the lasgun doesn't have full auto options
Problem is, if there is only stuff you can't headshot oneshot it's not great
whatre good blessings for boltgun?
Surgical Pinning
g
recon lasguns ?
ehhh u have recons but they are... not doing so hot rn
Pinning fire, shattering. Surgical if aiming
Shattering is quite bad these days
yeah they are ok but other weapons out preform
Surgical is BiS for vet, then Pinning imo. You can also use Cavalcade if u like mag dumping but, not the best
The toy lasgun? No thanks
u don't like the piss torrent?
Guy said is the best axe so I wanted to use it but ain't doing so hot with it, the ones I got is 3.5 plus crit chance bonus after a follow up with a critical and max 15 power if you hold heavy attack, and I've putted 25 maniacs and carapace damage
i for one love soaking my foes in a stream of warm piss
It just doesn't do enough damage rn
yeah
eat piss, heretic
Do u have precision strikes?
Check ur breakpoints
drink piss?
With BM it would shred if u can 1 tap headshot
TF2sniper
Make the fire rate slower and increase the damage and I'll use it
The heretics watching me unload a squadron’s worth of lasgun fire in 4 seconds:
Then it literally wouldn’t need to exist since you have the other infantry lasgun
The point of the recon lasgun is lower damage but high rate of fire
Also, why do lasguns have recoil? It's shooting light
Like the other torrent autoguns
Because shooting a gun in a game with zero recoil is weird.
Is there a lore reason? Am I stupid?
dont get me started plz
This too
im not drunk enough
Nope never used axe just bought it and maxed up, could've told me is a blessing reliant weapon
Also again lasgun not having full auto kills my soul
We'll get hotshot lasguns then you'll be able to auto pewpew
There's a whole category for that
Has anyone tried to finese bonus on one shot* 🙂 with the rashad? it feels super nice till you have a smite/dot psyker ruining everything.....
My head cannon is that, realistically, there would be no upward recoil, but some backward recoil because it’s not just light, but a high energy beam getting launched forwards so I suppose that newton’s laws apply here and would cause a equal and opposite reaction

ew
There’s already the Lucius anyway so
You can just use that
wtb speed reloader for my pistol
The Lucius?
get ruthless backstab
You know, the krieg lasgun
handy later if you wanna play zealot
back stab
Thank you
The one you can charge up and piss out a giga stream
But you have piss power ammo most of the time
AND a dogshit ironsight (unless you use the weapon mod mod)
I'm not that deep in the 40K lore as to know the gun names, Darktide just got me interested in the lore
That too
if you're not using the weapon mod you are gimping yourself tbh
as long as FS condones it
The mark xll works for me since it still oneshots most things, but I get better fire rate and an obscene amount of ammo
Ok I give up , NOTHING I try works for On Overwatch achievement, I've tried everything suggested it's just a horribly designed penance that's literally BS
Good blessings for shovel?
That might be true, but since many many MANY people before you got the penance I'd say that's a skill issue 😛
i'm feeling... a change in the air
whichon is on overwatch?
I've also seen how many got it BEFORE it got patched out 😛
Don't get hit with melee on malice
Carrying 8 mags worth of ammo is insane for a spec op
i saw someone saying "adding a chaos space marine as a final boss would be fun"
spec op pros carry no ammo
💀
My friend said that too
try doing the ammo penance on release patch..... I still have PTSD
and MAYBE a paperclip
We can pretend that it’s actually like 3 mags, and you simply have a battery pack on you since you can recharge the las gun mags

me after a chaos space marine thunderclaps the flesh off my face
I mean didn't an Ogryn canonically beat a Chaos Marine?
But then again you’re fighting horrors of the warp aswell so all the ammo you can get the better

The Big boys are the bestest boys
Yes because my skill makes an enemy not there even with the sound hit me then appear after I'm hit XD
had to be dumbed down even further or it wouldnt be fair 🥹
See? You need to adjust your skill to compensate for the game cheating
Also is the perk that makes you spend stamina for more damage while aiming any good?
tiny fool
If you build for crit and you don't live in ADS mode, sure
a chaos space marine open your chest after you hit him with that 10,000 docket chain sword
LOL
fatshart
One is to hurt, one is to blind
Fartshart moment
You can do it, be persistent until you beat it, only you can decide to be defeated. You lose and you do it again until you conquer the challenge
It's a penance that makes no sense for how the game is designed , if we were talking about a game with much more control over your character and not limited stamina it'd be fine
I've got "on overwatch" and I suck. I'm guessing it was luck ^_^
huge
Imagine if the flashlights actually had a blinding feature to be a bit more combat useful
imagine if they were lore accurate
Oh I agree. Still that is not going anywhere for a good long while so 😛
hey guys how do u do the make every shot count challange ?
The idea of furries existing in the 40K universe amuses me
Oh wait, space wolves
shotguns
shotgun ?
and the cat people that were mentioned like once and never again
You may have had an ogrin taunting ? They can keep most of the attention on them
like is plasma gun better or shotgun ?
yeah as long as one pellet hits you'll get 100% accuracy
shotgun is better
I am the emperor’s strongest abhuman

I'm completely fine with it just lighting the way. I love flashlights in video games... I'm extremely butthurt that the current weapon modification mod screws up flashlights and they auto turn off every time you swap to your melee -.-
The 90% accuracy no ammo one?
yes
so just dump into hordes or clusters of enemies and you'll never miss
Use plasma gun and take a different aura then scavenger, you can miss 2 shots
True, was just thinking of fun stuffs
i am having trouble, try plasma gun but like i miss alot
where did this outfit come from
The ballistic pistol , make every shot count , also make sure you don't have the ammo refill aura
The wardrobe you fragger
If anything, I would want them to be smaller. This is just ridiculous...
you only need 90% so if you're not sure you've got it pick up some ammo and make sure you hit ^_^
no i mean like a week ago i just had that in my outfit selection and stuff
Your "reward" for beta testing
Woah wish woah? Hard F?
The revolver sorry I forget there's shredder pistol too XD
LMAO
wait is that mean i can still pick up ammo and like just keep increaing the accuracy thing ?
That is up to you not to miss however you don't have to be 100 percent accurate
Yeah I wish it was more the size of the other flashlights on the other guns
That's why I said "reward"
💔
Karker
oh i thought only the starting ammo count
Only 90% 😉
Indeed
the crusher right behind the poxwalker horde as i have 300% cleave
Go melee build , just make sure you don't have the ammo refill for elite kill aura and make sure your shots count , ie let your team go after something and you keep hitting stragglers
I did it with plasma back in the days in '71
then i gonna need a dedicated team r?
No
I did it recently with the revolver modifying the Squad Leader build
(Also regenerated ammo doesn't count)
Can do it with randoms
regenerated ammo dont count ??
Nop
but no ammo at the end r ?
as long as you switch to your melee when you hit 0 ammo and don't switch back, it won't count
so you melee for the rest of the mission
It generates ammo even when your melee
You can still have ammo at the end if it's regenerated. If you shoot all your ammo very early, there's a 99% chance that whatever ammo you have left at the end is regenned, which doesn't count towards the penance so you'Ll be fine
UNLESS THEY CHANGED SOMETHING!!
What it does count, it literally says you gotta have 0 ammo
I can't do the grenade penance for the life of me
it does not detect regenerated ammo if you do not pull out your gun
the mid air kill one?
I managed to get that one recently on the carnival map
Yeah
just dont miss
i did that in the assassination mission in chasm station logistratum
right before you jump down to the area with the massive hole in the floor and the train hanging into it
oh so to summarise i can just shoot til i got to 0 ammo and then switch to melee, then after that any ammo that generated will not count toward my accuracy ?
I don't actually know if you regen ammo while you don't have your gun in your hands, but if I remember correctly it was like what I said before. So however many ammo you had left at the end, if it is regenerated that still doesn't count and gets registereted as zero ammo for the penance
When you go to hold at the spot most groups do , out a marker where they're usually fighting so you can see 30m , then arc it to roughly 60° and quick toss it (don't use kraks they're terrible for this)
yes
Just make sure you hit something
Just bring Plasma on low-intensity Heresy, play melee-focused and don't miss till the end, dump charged shots on trash in finale event. Penance done
you do regenerate ammo, but for the purposes of the penance you can keep your gun stowed away after emptying it
FS is notoriously bad at descriptions fyi
just to clasify, it said i have to got 0 ammo, so when i got 0 ammo left and switch to melee, any generated ammo left at the end do not count r ?
yes it doesn't count
oh dam
I did it without ammo generator just to be safe imo
I ran around just popping heads with the revolver and went melee and grenades the rest of the way
lol i just suck, i like to dum mag thoiugh
The new map is ridiculously good for penances
All the shitty zealot and veteran ones can get done here
Wah well f them in that case, I did it on first attempt with plasma gun and only missed 2 shots, used the shout aura to not regen ammo
The grenading got me that penance too XD
Especially the stun grenade one. Hit a sniper 30 meters away
Now if mobs would stop being freaking invisible and meleeing me out of nowhere I could get that done too...
Also don't ping your targets when you do Make Every Shot Count
I hate it so much
Don't want any kill steals
Tell that to psykers frying everything to death XD
Or crystal darting them
Psykers? My problemakers were Vets with revolvers and plasmas
Anything I ping is dead a second later
Man those crystals will come out of nowhere killing so much
im not saying its bs but i havent experienced anything like this
sorry
, too fun to kill elites on sight
A Psyker will not one shot with Assail and Brain Burst is the original bullied kid for kill stealing
Just had it happen on the carnival mission, after we dropped down to that room with the objective in the center , I was next to the healing machine so literally nothing but solid wall on my right , I got meleed from my right
revolver fun but reload speed+ clip size kills me
that speedloader on the new revolver tho
i wonder if you still use it on a partial reload
or need to be empty reloading
it would be nice if they just did that for the current revovler
wait what?
It would take a massive damage L for that to happen
Happens on a few maps, where I had just checked behind me on the railing making sure nothing was climbing up , turned around for barely a second and melted right away from where I just looked , that's not possible for them to climb that fast and nothing above for them to jump down frkm
😍
briefly seen
Reload length is the only thing balancing the current revvy
5 round cylinder but with speedloader
im curious to see if the new revolver coming will eclipse the old one
Expect it to be more of a sidegrade
current revolver does massive overkill
Trickshooter will become a good blessing at last tho
i feel you, it's more likely i just haven't noticed this happening to me but it surely is yk
i think it's either gonna have stinky damage or impossible to aim long distances to balance
I predict the latter
Did the game break again? I'm seeing weird broken text/code on my Armory app and when I look in game all those items are missing, resulting in very short Brunt armory lists (like half as many items as usual)
Likely requires god-tier aim to make the most out of beyond about 10m
Which is good
agreed
Rather that than it be a beamer with shite damage
When you don't have to worry about a penance that demands not being meleed in a horde mode game yeah you'll miss this stuff
running any weird mods? haven't seen anyone have this issue
It could have low ammo in reserve
Doubt it, that would make it DoA
Nothing weird, and it only happened this most recent shop refresh, so like 10 mins ago
I see it as well
Oooh new laspistol
Its scrap code
Haha I'd like to see the bolter pistol assault marines usually tote XD plasma pistol too
Are they the new weapon marks but they arent in game yet, so the armory is just not selling as many things?
Like to see a meta gun or plasma pistol
something's wrong with that extension or something
Anyone else have info on this? The armory extension is broken for me as well
Chaos got into it 💀
Its not just the extension tho, because the shop is missing items for sale
decent shovel?
Some intern clicked on commit in 
swap cara to maniac and hammerblow to decimator or skullcrusher and you have urself a shovel
We're a year in, I dont think we need to keep blaming interns lol
good deal, thanks!
Uncanny 4 very good. Would rather have perks for killing trash mobs faster though
and Decimator instead of Hammerblow like johnny said
I see it on a knife, not sure about shovel
I made a hammerblow shovel the other day to see if it was good, damage is kinda eh, but its pretty funny how much stagger it gets
i actually love hammerblow lol but hard to trade it for damage
Crusher on the other hand doesn't care!
Crusher weapon, not Crusher enemy
Ye, though also not like you get many options on that 
i just watched a veteran use stealth on a sniper rather than get us up
my heart is shattered
Sadly seen that a number of times :/
I just watched a level 200ish vet run away from the bridge, get shotgunned and raged to death, yell at us for LEAVING him and then rage quit
Fun times
Sounds like he played himself
i would have been laughing on public vocie comms
We did laugh over on discord... but it was like a sad disappointed laugh
On bridge parts it move forward or get bogged down.
That's why I always say it doesn't matter how many hours you have in a game. You can get a thousand hours and level up your character to max doing sedition runs
All it takes is one mistake or a lucky hit from a enemy
I have hundreds of hours and usually carry teams of pugs through Aurics. But also sometimes I do dumb stuff and die like a pleb. I just generally refrain from yelling at anyone when I do lol
hotshot lasguns? 🥺
I don't have your godlike restraints anymore in any game 😅
Hot fix or traitor curse part 2?
damn just got into an argument cause some ogryn wasnt fast enough to grab the nades, proceeds to complain to me i tell him its just a game, calls me a donkey "due to my voice" and then i get vote kicked... life of playing wtih randoms
Okay now you gotta let us hear your voice
no
If you’re going to die. Kill as many heretics as possible and wait for rescue.
So you want +Stamina on your melee as Vet?
Maybe if you’re a camo vet?
Who dis Lump ‘Ead? I’ll give ‘im one more 🤕💪🏻
Stam is underrated, you get a lot more positioning power with stacked stam
But like… killing stuff faster also good?

@path.exe
IAM cooming
uhh
Coghammer shovel nice
i got u, sec
wait do i have to remake my builds again
Well fuck, now I gotta get home and re-do all my Vet builds 
how is that shorter compared to current tree
Yes
sad
VoC or Exec?
ARE U FUCKING KIDDING ME
I SPENT 250K PLASTEEL TO GET HAND CANNON IV
AND THEY NERF IT
I am using Infiltrate but I used Exec before?
Lmaooo
the good news is
it doesn't matter
MY BREAKPOINTS
Owned nerd
MY BREAK POINTS
OH MY BREAKPOINTS ARE GONE
you were so beautiful
i could only hold u for 2 hours
What that new chainsword do though?
but how beautiful u were
kk Exec build inc
give me a min
Veritcal strike heavies
so new chainsword is for single target
yes, it's more suited for Zealots
Traitors curse part 2
ez
OH SHIT ITS OUT
Already getting in
Time to make breakfast then purge
nice you can inject other players with the stimm
Fastest way to keystones - 17 points. they did it finally
DO I SEE AN UPDATE?
YES
There we go
Also the vet trees didnt seem to have changed at all?
Time to redo builds
It was all three
but i can care less
@crude wind now can you give us some highlights that the patch is out?
cant download the game yet
Oooh looks like alot of the bloat has been redone for vet nice 
Onslaught on Burning/Bleed is fixed btw
will be doing a live stream tonight for 4-5 hours covering this but in the meantime ask anything you like
I feel like it’s actually me who could care less in this case
Was anything changed balance wise or simply just made the tree more compact?
Good to hear
or rather, same bloat but avoidable now
thank god
Praise the Emperor!
would i be able to play the game while having the custom weapons mod enabled?
shovel buff 
not sure about mod validity, depends on the mod
No cap?
@crude wind wasnt the rending 10%?
AYOOOOO
yes

but now you can get 10% rending from tree
and another 10% from Marksman keystone
for 20%
Excellent
from having 10+ stacks?
yes
nah
o well
you can run it out of shout/exec
So im still running shout
Did they ever fix Born Leader?
as in make it not terribad?
cause it's bad
As in not working if you have full toughness
"Fixed Issue where ‘Born Leader’ didn’t replenish toughness of allies when the player was at max Toughness."
They fixed it this patch, according to patch notes
Oh my god i missed that, time to test it
We are all Born leader now
plasma charge rate.... fixed (?)
I notice the time to kill
But Imo, I feel like the ammo is still not good to use on T4+
I mean, you can, but I wouldn't
there's no question you have you run Scavenger and the crit one
hmmm, need to do a game with ti
Well shit, while I’m sitting here waiting for the patch to go through I just found out embraced shut down insurgency sandstorm’s dev studio
is it easier now to grab stuff like the 25% ammo while getting most focus target keystones?
yup
very easy
oh wow
So basically
is once again at best decent by talents doing all the work
is the right tree kinda bloated or am i seeing it wrong
Noooooo rending backstab got nerfed
pretty much. the gun still need buffs, but you can at least, for now, use it again

do we have to reset EVERYTHING?
a low bar but something
yes
No Recon changes 💀
Ehhh, would have to play a T4, but Imo in the psykanium with everything static I feel like, for that
I use the laspistol again

and will outperform that way
i'm gonna run some T5s with it
we'll see how it does
new mission is assassination?
Yeah they actually just don't give as ingle fuck about the weapon
Hey fellow Vets are shotguns build generally good for auric missions?
New tree feels super cool tbh just can take 25 ammo and elite dmg for plasma now
depends how you build it
oh wow that is huge
Unless the heavy heavy laspistol feels good af, I am taking a break
Increased surge in Hadron bricking new weapons detected 
heavy las pistol seems goated
it's nice
Use MG IV, its old Laspistol
rip
I must roll for yeehaw gun
takes a few hours after patch for brunt's to update
ah got it
I'm going for a support kinda build cause from my experience there aren't a lot of them in auric mostly speed zealots and sneaky Vets
they nerfed the original las pistol?
Looks like rending on revolver and rending on Hand Cannon both got nerfed
oh hell yes

Time to rebuild 10 builds
Fixed issue where Veteran talent “Onslaught” could be triggered by damage over time effects, like burning or bleeding. 
My laspistol got worse

can't have shit in atoma
ngl I deadass knew that Revolver was gonna git that nerf slap with the carapace damage

you guys like the new tree?
Looks nice
Also im not seeing anything done about melee blessings that works on Lucius bayonets, so...
We still playing lucius lasgun as a spear am i right
new tree feels good
Only the bottom part is changed, upper and mid is the same
Even without blessings it still makes nasty breakpoints
is the update out now?
ye
Yes

Nvm
what is ranged finesse power vs just ranged power
My laspistol is silly now
oh ive bieng playing the old version time to hsut down lol
killed a Crusher with 12 ammo used
Weak spot/crit for ranged only

ty
where the FUCK is brunt selling those new melee weapons
Finesse power is Weakpoint/Crit damage, power is straight up damage
Finesse = weakspot/crit dmg (and attack speed for melee)
Much better
Dang it now you can’t skip the ammo goblin trait (+25% ammo)
Brunt ate the schematics and the Mourning star is downloading the data rn

New tree is about as good as it's gonna get, honestly
This is a whole skill tree on its own 
Chain axe is so fkin good now
wtf is that compression
Yea ngl that is tru
i was kinda hoping more so of a simpler system where they combine some stuff together
but ill look into this ftm
Laspistol hours v1
wowo, there is a new vet tree again?
JEEZ THAT IS SO GOOD
Honestly just finished ~3 damnation missions with chainaxe (before patch) and it didn't feel unreasonably bad. Did take some time figuring out the right attacks for various situations though.
It could be better, like bridging links between the nodes before the pre-Keystones
Rager nerf sad
wow thy ruined revolvers huh
i'm so happy
it's gonna be an all out vet lobby for the next 7 days
imo pre patch it was the worst melee weapon in the game bar none
my keystoneless builds can reach keystones now for me thats better in all the ways
U were playing rager class? Sad for ye
you could make it work but it felt terrible to play
how that
less carapace damage and less headcannon dmg
Well do you know what a push attack is? Because I could see that attitude from people who don't use its push attack
bro I am a play tester with nearly 3000 hours in this game, I know how every single weapon works at this point inside out and backwards
why do you think the chainaxe got buffed? it was terrible before
so plasma untouched?
No tweaks for Bolter and Lasgun IV 😦
Yeah but do you what a push attack is though
Nor Recon 
no they fixed the charge rate bug
enlighten me
They fixed the "Charge Rate affects Damage" bug
Did they fix the Hellbores bayonet?
Noob smh my head
Nope
Helbore 3 build I guess
try mkVII i like it a lot
why nerf revolver rending 
guys I hate to break it to you
that is what i was saying
it was cool popping crusher heads
will check rn
So is Born Leader a must take now?
depends on which way you look at it
for me
anti fun is every person in a lobby
with a revolver
because they all wanna play the clearly OP weapon
Nerfed revolver be like. T3 rending and have perks unarmored + maniac
Born Leader useful now? 🤔
literally unusable
soooo nerfed omg how will people cope
how grief is this
Exhil Takedown + Target Down + Confirmed Kill + Covering Fire
why not just... buff bolter
Have you tried the Rashad axe?
thats a 10/10 grief
I think it's funny they address the revolver because of it outshining the bolter.
provides nothing for the bolter
one of my most used weapons
how did you get that already ?
Pls tell Fatshark to buff the revolver kk thx
Run it in auric, no balls
Hadron you fucker
20% reduction and still OP 
and Reovlver fans were fighting so hard to say no
Gawd damn it why do they keep changing the Talent tree
STOP HURTING MY BUILDS!!!
Revolver need buff UwU
ikr, Handcannon was busted at 80%
Lul I can't use it, or maybe I just need to use those blessings
She just griefed you
if its still good enough to not need krak them im happy
Revolver + Ping keystone was funny at 90% rending lol
thats so toxic
Shovel is bae
an absolute perfect roll too
what blessings u using on it dude?
at this point its a plasma pistol
frags are life, krak kills dreams
looks like rager HP got nerfed
Something something buff autoguns
Needs 100 cleave and wallpen
That’ll solve it
if shovel not as good as poswersword forget it
I used a revolver withoput optimization on my Zealot and it was so ridiculous how much I could kill with it
Is it 2400 on Damnation?
2000
Tbh honest new revolver's mark feels useless or Im missing something
breakpoints hooooooooo
Then I'm good 👍
pls buff ragers
2400 is the damage my Power Sword hits on maniacs 💪
braced revolver... bad?
Do you guys have the new stuff in Brunts armory?
Braced Revolver will take a few days to find the sweet spot I reckon
Buff plague ogryn
Am I insane for using a pitol in Auric missions?
Increased base damage for Graia Mk IV Braced Autogun by about 20%, from 60-120 to 72-145.``` 
was just about to ask this, can't find them
it's really fun and it has more ammo then the other one
Servers need to reset
this gun is sick now
can someone point me to what a decent sneaky build looks like plz?
wasnt graia brace already secretly hot buffs sound tasty
i got you
tah 🙂
Why would that be insane? Laspistol and Revolver are both solid. Just with revolver you'd probably be using a build that was more melee-centric (ideally with autoreloading shots from melee specialist)
two shovels???
Woah wait graia brauto buffed?
Nothing in particular, barely used axes wanted to try it out and the atrox mk v2 was good enough for me, got the Rashad and maxed it out and the blessings were 15 power on hold heavy attack and crit damage follow up after hit of crit
Can it actually compete with Agri now?
Fixed issue with the primary attack overcharging differently with different Charge Rate stat values.``` perfect chargeraters on commissar watch
So what did they add? I'm downloading update
Compressed the bottom section of Vet tree
they added patch notes for you to read
But I can't read 🥺
Pretty good imo
Ask the ogryn to read it for you
Ayy, I can take more ammo for my plasma now
So nothing then, how boring
How does my boi look
2 new one handed gun few shovels
liking the new shovel breakpoints, using the pick attack it 1 shots most specials and elites except ogryn or maulers, im killing mutant in one headshot with the pick removal damage proc. Mauler is 2 headshots or 3 bodyshots (probably only 2 if you have the right blessings/perks)
change when? 
it fucking destroys things
Am sorry but brunt's armory have no new marks...
Am I sexy enough for the sexy club?
he looks like hes going fishing
Oh right, they actually just ignored Scavneger problems 
Faaaak
you want brutal momentum on Combat axes
Fishing them Elites
required
I just realized I gotta do all my sets again ooooofffffff
pog
wait new weapons arent out yet?
Weapons, weapons buffs and nerfs, stim packs, new mission, new twin boss in missions, etc.
Recon still killed, Aura issue still there
, at least the bottom of the tree is pretty good now
New weapons, I dunno where are they
not in brunts, but i checked the store and had the new shovel, laspistol, and chainsword
it needs a server reset, to not kick people from their games
Wow you can reach a keystone with Recon rending build now
is out
Saved
Pray for me that the empra grant yo boi some new weapons
Shit, Guess I gotta update after I'm done in this mission
Yeah other guy mentioned it, but I suppose I need to be lucky to find that soon
new tree is so beautiful
time to kill em eratics
how do you guys like it
Still kills well no?
gonna play the new map, use the new laspistol and just gonna vibe on Rogue Trader in 2 days
Is the chain axe good now.
did you guy ssee the revolver nerf?
?*
-60% power hurts regardless
Right, thanks
update is out 
handcannon got nerfed by 20% rending 😭
yea but it's not too bad
i always liked it so my opinion will be poopy on the changes now
new tree looks nice
Handcannon also got nerfed by 20%
its not the worst but still yikes
Revolver got vibe checked
I tested and still killed pretty reliably
Isn't it an effective -40% rending?
I'm a Las Pistol kinda guy. So I'm fine. :v
Removed instant toughness depletion on touching fire. Slightly increased base damage, increased both flamers action speed and fire size, removed toughness regen when standing in fire and changed damage to tick higher the longer you stand in the fire to compensate. 
yea but you get 100% dmg modifer vs carapace at the end of it
so you can deal 1k damage per shot
Elite/Carapace might help make or break Breakpoints
Ah so its just not 1-shot kill with barely any investment
the nice thing is
it doesn't matter if its t1 or t4
very little difference between the tiers
so check your shop a lot
The tiers only affect the weakspot damage
That is only on pc right? I'm awaiting avatar is 76 gb ooooof got quite a bit to download
Which rashad wasn't lacking on lol
Every time I think fatshark can't make any more silly oversights...
They sped up the held attack animation/charge for chainaxes, which is great. /BUT/ They didn't change when thrust stacks begin to accumulate.
I think so sadly
Owlcat probably has not the resources to do a console port
After the "kill 300k bosses" event, Nurgle personally visited to make Thurst bad UwU
Yup i recently discovered that so maybe with my resources i might finally get every blessing for the chainsword
thats MASSIVE
proably one of the biggest highlights of this update
Wierd looking
Flamers on suicide watch
KEKW
Had a heart attack thinking you meant Zealot flamer
I'll buy it on pc then, game looked interesting
Bombers probably still scary imo
Ok the new Chainaxe is busted beyond belief
So ragers, flamer and bomber nerfed, game is easier now
shovels?
Vets were not nerfed in a update
Means its time for a tier after Damnation 
"Removed instant toughness depletion on touching fire. " thank you god
Pleasant Surprise
So does the new revolver not have ADS at all?
Plasma gun charge rate fix is good, but it borked something else. I'm getting ghost shots now. Tap the trigger, it'll do the firing animation with no vfx, it'll add heat, but no shot.
We got hit with 1 fix guys
Melk: Times are hard, man
AYO NEW SHOVEL KINDA BOPS
Fixed Issue where ‘Born Leader’ didn’t replenish toughness of allies when the player was at max Toughness.
Wah for real? I thought that was the ace for flamers very odd for them to change that
Ragers definitely deserved the nerf, they were a bit too tanky.
this update is insane
Melks going through a divorce and a rehab at the same time
Yes
we dont get access to any new weapons thanks to no brunt
the new shovel is wild. it 2 shots a lot of the specials
Fixed issue with "Limbsplitter’’ affecting melee attacks on ranged weapons if you had a melee weapon with the blessing equipped.
it's joever
so new shovel is same heavy spam but cool special?
Hallowette not giving him the time of day
oh no this is not on the melee side of that tree 💀
is that an oopsie by FS?
How does the chain axe feel? got a pretty decently rolled one
the crit set upon new revolver
they nerfed helbore bayonet stabby 
Does surgical even work on new revolver?
Did they buff smoke grenades?
can you replicate and record by any chance?
I'll load up OBS and try to replicate it
deadshot perk works for example
still reading patch notes, dont see anything relevant
Nope
if you can, clip and send me thank you!!!
Still a meme
smokes still bad, t'would that it t'weren't
wait fire no longer insta deletes toughness?
just stops it from regenerating
it was op asf
fire would wipe ur whole team
Is only me or does every smoke grenades user uses all the 4 nades in the storm raptor at the end missions 
its completely useless pretty much
wheres the warren map 😡
the smoke aoe seems to be so small
Still useful against the 12 guns and Reapers shooting at you
I think they're somewhat useful
i think regular grenades are more useful 99% of the time
u have to remember to use the smoke grenades
It’s perfect for my backstab Spy
they dont last very long
their aoe is tiny
and half the time they dont even do their job
if anything it gets u kicked from games
nobody wants to see smoke
Smoke grenades are just a demonstration of "cover vs concealment" and players learn FAST
k the new revolver is trashfire
PLASMA CHARGE RATE DAMAGE GONE?!
?
Can use better nades perk they last 115 seconds
it only penetrates 1 unarmored trash, nothing else
My gun got a 0.3% damage buff then 💪💪💪💪
would still be shit if they lasted for 30 seconds
the quickdraw mechanic makes no sense, it's like just 20% faster than just left clickin with no bonus
u seriously gotta compete against krak with smokes
a grenade that oneshots any carapace enemy
lets gooo dont fuck me crafting
Incoming brick
am i missing something i dont see the new revolver in brunts armory ?
what the darktide update for
i imagine the new revolver will feel better when i dont have a dogshit one with 30% pen and blessings on
all the new items are missing
Didn't say is better but not useless either
bruh
hmmm
So I noticed, Brunt's Armoury isnt updated
How is the veteran tree now?
that is so ass...
Looks schizophrenic
Anything new ?
Tactical awareness, confirmed kill, ET, and VoC removed UwU
and from what i can tell the new map is not currently in circulation
Im at work cant check and dont hav time to read through a paragraph sadly
Sir Melk refreshed
Splendid
Update done let's see
you might have to restart your game to see new weapon marks
On average, two or three less points to get to keystones
Sucks that VoC is still the best Ult
The point tax still on Exe and Infil
Middle tree was untouched
Yeah ikr
And Survivalist is still on the left
I want to use exe + fan revolver
Cursed tree
new weapons arent out yet
Man they should've added akimbo las pistols
guess i'll fix the skill tree instead
They’ll be in soon they just nice with the making people leave process
Instead of forcing people outta sessions they wait till it’s over before pulling broskis
Aren't people posting revolvers and laspistols though?
😭
jokes on them i aint gonna stop playing this game 
Thats fast
They are for me
where new map 😡
Waitin for enough people to not be on the old update
Undocumented? Or just taking an L from the Limbsplitter fix?
But you guys said they added a new shovel? I dont see the new shovel
It's a new Mark
\
brunts not updated until all old maches close
Removed instant toughness depletion on touching fire. Slightly increased base damage, increased both flamers action speed and fire size, removed toughness regen when standing in fire and changed damage to tick higher the longer you stand in the fire to compensate.
Dev Note: This was done to reduce the frustrations of losing all toughness when briefly touching fire regardless of your toughness amount or damage reductions. Curios that affect bombers/flamers will be more viable as well.
Pay aquillas for the new shovel
WOO GRAIA BUFF
Praise the emperor!
Were and when
Fire is scary now. It eats health very quickly
So he turns it into a pickaxe and then continues to use the blunt side...? What in the heresy is this?
Better than instant though
GRAIA RISE
I mean, wouldn't they be more useless now since they are less of a threat 
Well revolver still two shots crushers on vet with handcannon IV so I'm happy
You wish 
These spicy boys work on guns btw
I do D:
I no longer have to use a mode for the Hellbore lasgun, fatshark really made them automatic
cant get the new shovels in brunts armory
lame 👎
The new flamer is gonna hurt when you get the unfortunate combination of flamer and mutant grab
It does a ton more health damage than it used to.
I see the firearms not the shovel tho
To be fair, it dumpsterd you regardless
new weapons won;t show up for me
I know
they wont for everyone
People still playing old version
Iag?
Everyone needs to get off 
brauto, +20% dmg
Just the gaia
Also is it me or is serrated blade kinda just super useless lmao
Guys I literally can see the new revolver and las pistol from burnt by selecting specific weapons not the shovel tho
my game updated, new wepons are on the random roll shops but not brunt's armory
1 bleed stack per hit what a joke.
Are you sure there's a new shovel?
they're coming, give it a moment
Recon gets -25% ammo
i only use it to proc Mercy Killer on knives, but it helps out against bosses i guess
since they are aquired from fatsharks servers it has to tick a round as to not interrupt people's games.
Hellgun copium continues
I see it at this rate
They just keep nerfing the recon eh
Takes like 20 hits to build it up to max on bosses.
Recon now also gets -25% maniac damage
It heals maniacs
i'm gonna tickle the karker to death
Who is making these decisions
god vld lasgun feels even better now
How
just does.. more damage
Me
Just finished hearing from @slow spade that it does less
How does it do more
So i have recently become to absolutely love the Shovel, however. What blessing and Perks y'all use on it?




