veteran-class

[tall torrent]

U buy and harvest

[formal hamlet]

Gotcha. I'm starting to get the hang of some of these vendors.

[gusty bison]

He might also have good curios

Maybe

[jade notch]

Curios don't have Blessings, just 4 Perks

[tall torrent]

You want to slowly amass a lot of blessings harvested

[hallow moat]

Off topic but did yall see that GTA6 trailer!???

[formal hamlet]

It's been hard understanding the whole end game loot grind process, and the 40k lore terminology for it made it more confusing lol.

[tall torrent]

So that when you do get a good roll you can very easily turn it into a godroll

Some weapons are easier to roll

Some weapons are harder to roll

And then there’s Rashad combat axe which is basically veteran’s endgame

[whole moon]

if you have any lore related questions ask in general, you'll get four different answers and an argument 😉

[formal hamlet]

Right, I was told to harvest blessings, buy guns from armoury, the grey ones, and bless them twice to get them blue, and then strip the blessing or sell the gun if it's a dupe.

[gusty bison]

Thats a way to do it

[tall torrent]

Pretty much, that’s how u speedrun blessings harvest

[gusty bison]

But melk sometimes shortcuts it

[tall torrent]

But you want to only consecrate stuff that are 360+ (generally speaking)

[formal hamlet]

Haha, I'm a bit of a weird one since I only care about Tau in 40k, so my Imperium lore is very very basic.

I just know space marines are super soldiers, and everyone else is basically Tyranid food.

[whole moon]

I will say for all its pure RNG if Clanky is being a bitch Id say leave her alone for a day and try your luck later. It feels like she gets stuck in a loop w blessings some days

[tall torrent]

Whatever stat helps you kill enemies in noticeably fewer hits = super important
Mobility: as long as you get max dodge count, doesn’t really matter afterwards
Then there’re dump stats u can just not care

[gusty bison]

Also any marines not blue are also tyranid food

:P

[abstract moth]

Don't you have to make em gold? You know to get lvl 4 or 3 blessing

[zealous wyvern]

no

[abstract moth]

Hmmm I'm confused

[formal hamlet]

Consecrate was upgrading its rarity to gain more blessings right?

[whole moon]

No, but it does seem like higher base stat weapons have a higher chance of T4 blessings, purely anecdotal tho

[zealous wyvern]

i do not know the exact line but for lvl3 you do not need golden or even purple

[tall torrent]

Yea

[spark helm]

I guess yeah

I don't have raking fire but I also don't quite have the gun I'd want to try out atm

saving for melk possibilities.

[formal hamlet]

Didn't know I should only upgrade the ones with high base stats, I thought blessings were blessings.

[zealous wyvern]

4 can drop on purple

[gusty bison]

Then its pretty much raking fire dum dum

And uh

Whatever thr fuck perks

Unyielding? Unyielding.

[whole moon]

I kept this around to show you can get T4 on blue consecrations

[gusty bison]

Its an IAG. You cant brick an IAG

[formal hamlet]

Ah, I don't get the axe.

I was using it on my LV1 Zealot.

Takes me 2 whacks to kill enemies.

Maybe power sword spoiled me.

[gusty bison]

Aim 4 the head

Axe wants headshots

[formal hamlet]

Yeah I go for head, but it takes 1 charged headshot and 1 regular swing to kill anything that isn't a zombie.

[abstract moth]

So i can get t4 or 3 on blue? Seriously? Never happened to me, on gold is 100 percent sure you get 2 lvl 3 or 4 blessings

[formal hamlet]

Maybe it's just my weapon levels.

It's my starter axe for Zealot after all.

[tall torrent]

9% stopping power roll with 8% groaner, 20% infested, punishing salvo and sustained fire:

[abstract moth]

Wow

[gusty bison]

Run onslaught. Stopping power irrelevant.

The rest... eh.

Its an IAG.

[whole moon]

I definitely have but it was by no means the norm and I did hit the plasteel bug pre ToT pretty hard so I suspect my experience is flawed a little

[gusty bison]

Its still throwing out 2k dps

[whole moon]

Thanks Brunt!

[gusty bison]

Kay time to take it to auric

Just skip hadron

Lmao

[sonic skiff]

whats the best brauto

[abstract moth]

Ah I was just about to say that changes everything. I'm hoarding lots of stuff so that one day I may have every blessing on a chainsword haven't done anything yet tho, I currently have 5.483.686 coins, 105.200 platsteel and 44.053 diamantine. Don't even know if this is enough to get em all

[gusty bison]

On vet?

Uhhh

[formal hamlet]

Wouldn't I want +10% ranged weak spot damage and +10% ranged critical hit damage as my perks on the HB Lasgun?

[gusty bison]

Depends whether u like bracing

[gusty bison]

No

[cloud current]

am I very wrong about preferring the mkIII power sword?

[gusty bison]

The helbore is all about breakpoints

[tall torrent]

No, don’t use weakpoint or crit dmg bonuses as perks

[sonic skiff]

yknow i havent even tried the other autoguns lmfao

[tall torrent]

They’re just bad

[gusty bison]

Neither of those help with breakpoints

[sonic skiff]

ive just heard headhunter sucks

[naive hatch]

tempted to use my milk money

[formal hamlet]

What are breakpoints?

[gusty bison]

Helbore 2 wants unarmored, maniac

[formal hamlet]

Oops.

[gusty bison]

Number of shots to kill

[tall torrent]

Important damage values that help u kill things in less hits

[gusty bison]

Not worth it

[formal hamlet]

But I am still going for weak points when I shoot, right?

[gusty bison]

Just buy from brunt

[gusty bison]

Yes

[whole moon]

I hope the RNG gods bless you in your quest. Nice horde too btw 😉

[gusty bison]

Lets put it this way

[formal hamlet]

Okay, just making sure lol.

[gusty bison]

If the target has 500 HP

[formal hamlet]

So the weak point perks suck, but going for weak points still important.

[gusty bison]

It doesnt matter if u do 700 or 500 damage

[formal hamlet]

Ah, so it's overkill.

[gusty bison]

But it DOES matter if u do 450 instead of 500

[formal hamlet]

Makes sense.

[gusty bison]

Thats why we take + Unarmoured

Cos it lets us 1 shot dreg shooters in body and dreg gunners in head on full charge at highest diff

[formal hamlet]

I see, so that's why I want +25% damage against unarmoured.

Guessing it helps against muty as well?

I noticed he takes a couple charge shots to down.

[unreal bone]

Is damage resist vs tox flamers bad on a curio?

[whole moon]

yup

[abstract moth]

Guys can someone send me their recon skill tree abilities with the new system implemented

[formal hamlet]

So my only concern before I apply this perk swap is; since I only have LV3 for Onslaught and Surgical, that means later on I can't replace them with LV4 versions, how big of a deal is that?

[whole moon]

not true, if you swap to a L3 skill that slot becomes changeable and you can later swap it again to T4, you can tell if the slot is changeable as it has a cog and wrench icon

[hallow tulip]

fire breaks your toughness no matter what, pretty sure its just how much hp dmg you take

[gusty bison]

You dont need Onslaught 4 or surg 4 on hb2 anyway. 3 is good enough

[tall torrent]

Essentially this is what you need to care about, for the most part:

Horde enemies:
Dreg bruiser: 687.5hp flak
Scab bruiser: 625hp unarmored

Elites:
Dreg gunner: 1400hp unarmored
Scab gunner: 1200hp flak
Dreg shotgunner: 1000hp unarmored
Scab gunner: 1000hp flak
Scab mauler: 3000hp carapace
Dreg rager: 2400hp maniac
Scab rager: 2400hp flak
Crusher: 3600hp carapace
Reaper: 4000hp unyielding
Bulwark: 3600hp unyielding

Specialists:
Dreg tox flamer: 1400hp maniac (weak to melee)
Scab flamer: 1400hp maniac (weak to melee)
Scab bomber: 750hp flak (weak to melee)
Scab trapper: 900hp maniac
Mutant: 4000hp maniac (weak to melee)
Pox hound: 1400hp infested (weak to melee)

[gusty bison]

Yes

It doesnt reduce fire damage

Just how much they do to u on a kick

[gusty bison]

[gusty bison]

Flamers are 1.5k

Also u missed ragers

[tall torrent]

Huh? When u melee them it shows 1400hp?

[formal hamlet]

So just to make sure I understand; I have 0/2 modifications applied right now. Once I swap Sprint for Unarmoured, I have used up 1/2 of my modification allowance. So later on if I find a Onslaught IV, or Surgical IV, I can only upgrade one of those blessings before my modification limit is reached, no?

[gusty bison]

Wha?

[formal hamlet]

Okay, in that case, here goes nothing.

[tall torrent]

U can go check rn, I’m pretty sure they’re 1400hp

[whole moon]

Yup, think youve got it

[zealous wyvern]

you also forgot which ones are maniac. that is very important maniac being one of the most popular perks

ragers trappers flamers?

[formal hamlet]

And I'm guessing there's no point wasting a modification on upgrading the maniacs perk to tier 4 for that 5% extra damage?

I have no idea what a maniac is tbh lol.

Or any of those enemies.

[gusty bison]

Nope

20% gud enuff

[formal hamlet]

[tall torrent]

Usually 20% vs 25% won’t be a big enough difference

[zealous wyvern]

i would buff onslaught to 4 and sprint to unarmoured

[tall torrent]

Me? Or

[zealous wyvern]

yes i meant your welcome list

[tall torrent]

I did put in which ones are maniac

[zealous wyvern]

i am blind then

[abstract moth]

So I shouldn't aim for t4 blessings but 3 because it doesn't make much difference?

[whole moon]

yeah, this is where those 1 shot breakpoint values come in, I have a lot of weapons left deliberately with changes left as I'm not sure how to go and for the moment they work fine in combat so I'll just wait. I'll go grab you a list of enemy types, Flak/Maniac represent a lot of enemies and specials and most weapons tend to run them as perks, often abbreviated to flakiac

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies

[tall torrent]

It depends which blessing

[zealous wyvern]

ok i see it

[formal hamlet]

I see, suppose having 1 modification spare is good in case things change down the line and I can adjust my gun accordingly.

[zealous wyvern]

if its a damage blessing and you already oneshot you dont need 4 for example

[hollow turtle]

What a pleasant sight to respawn to.

[quick fossil]

Holy hell .... vet talent tree need to be reworked it feels like. Like I dipped into other trees a bit and I can't even hit keystone

[whole moon]

lick it

[zealous wyvern]

BRUH

[tall torrent]

Helbore build is unlikely to get changed

[formal hamlet]

Awaiting rescue.

[zealous wyvern]

rotten ogryn nipple

that is vile

[whole moon]

yeasty

[formal hamlet]

Speaking of build, is there an established talent tree layout for Helbore Lasgun?

[zealous wyvern]

i have read enough heresy to know where this is going

[formal hamlet]

My friend helped me do mine, just curious if it's the "good" build.

[tall torrent]

It really depends on which variant you’re using

[formal hamlet]

I'm using the Mk II.

[zealous wyvern]

and if you want melee, sniper or shout

[amber cliff]

oh yeah? im using YOU

[tall torrent]

This is what I use with my mk2

[abstract moth]

I'd suggest to get the blessings you want first on a weapon then roll one with good statistics and then add the blessings you want, tho you need lot of resources for that

[zealous wyvern]

do you want to just shoot

or do you want to shout and buff

all 3 trees are amazing for mk2

[tall torrent]

What you really care about for mk2 is

[formal hamlet]

I want to shoot everything.

[zealous wyvern]

not infiltrate though. you only go right for the other stuff

[tall torrent]

You need the 30% weakpoint bonus on the left tree

[formal hamlet]

And bayonet anything that I was unable to shoot enough.

[tall torrent]

And then you need either 2 stacks of tag keystone, or 15% elite

This allows u to one shot Dreg gunner at any distance to the head with a fully charged shot

[formal hamlet]

I have gone heavily into left side of tree.

I only went middle a little to get grenade tinkerer and demo stockpile.

[abstract moth]

Wait isn't mk3 the best helbore? It does more damage right? Like mine does 489 charged

[formal hamlet]

Everything else is left side.

[muted knot]

Damage isn't everything

The others shoot fast and deal less damage

[zealous wyvern]

also mk3 worst bayonet

[muted knot]

Generally I think the MK3 is the worst of the bunch because it sometimes acts funny with the charging

[tall torrent]

Mk3 has the highest damage but also the slowest charge speed, slowest firerate, the worst bayonet moveset and the highest ammo consumption per shot (which really forces you into taking shock trooper so you don’t spend half a horde fight reloading)

[wanton dawn]

Mk3 is the best at dealing with carapace but yeah

[spark helm]

tried it so far with wht I got. think it'll be better to swap something with a smaller mag

shotty time

[wanton dawn]

Mk3 has the worst moveset and agility

[formal hamlet]

Also, how good is the Deadshot perk? I'm scared to use it in case it just wipes out my stamina. I ADS a lot.

[abstract moth]

Yeah my aim with it is to deal with maulers and crushers and ranged elites

[tall torrent]

It’s good for specific weapons like laspistol

[muted knot]

Pretty damn good but you need to play around it

[wanton dawn]

Mk3 is not better than other variant on non carapace elite

[muted knot]

That certainly works

[formal hamlet]

I'd probably need to get into the habbit of charging the shot first, and then ADSing real quick to take the shot so I minimise my ADS time.

[tall torrent]

On a helbore u generally don’t take deadshot

[muted knot]

Depends on your blessing of course

I usually want surgical on my hellbore so I want to stay in ads

[gusty bison]

:3

:33

But yea u dont need deadshot

[spark helm]

thinking of setting up a shotty/knife kind of thing. knife is passable though my fundamentals on defense compensate for poorer dmg atm.

[formal hamlet]

Gotcha.

[gusty bison]

You can use it

Its not bad

Its just not needed

[spark helm]

would want a shotty with it for the play off of wep specialist more frequently.

[formal hamlet]

What's knife good for?

I still don't get every weapons niche.

[wanton dawn]

Carving meat

[muted knot]

High finesse damage

[tall torrent]

Deleting melee elites

[spark helm]

Knife is solid in right tree builds for the finesse and elite dmg yeah

[tall torrent]

And solo’ing bosses

But your horde clear is abysmal

[formal hamlet]

Damn, clearly I used my knife wrong.

[muted knot]

The heavy attack fucks

[formal hamlet]

I got rushed by a horde and my knife felt inadequate so I scrapped it.

[spark helm]

most you can do is solid light spam vs hordes and combining shoves and dodges for the majority of your full frontal fighting

course with the big dodges comes backstabs if you happen to have it. but zealots usually do it better

[formal hamlet]

I think I need to learn how to handle melee combat beyond just spamming left click and sometimes shoving.

[wanton dawn]

Vet knife is poor cuz vet is kinda weak against horde if you dont take a meta melee option

[formal hamlet]

Especially if I plan to use my Zealot more in the future too.

[wanton dawn]

Plus vet has no flamer or purgatus

Or surge

[formal hamlet]

Suppose you could use your frag grenades as the horde clearer.

[tall torrent]

Vet is cursed to having to use weapons that can deal with long range threats

[wanton dawn]

I approve but not enough nade

[abstract moth]

Knife is good for hordes I just have issues with it when I have 5 or 6 crushers on me or a group of armored ragers give or take a tox flamer or a trapper

[vivid bolt]

Just dodge.

For once im not saying that in a joking manner

[formal hamlet]

Gonna make a mental note to watch a melee combat tutorial on YouTube tonight.

[wanton dawn]

Aka a normal day in auric

[spark helm]

tbh zealot can get away with more as a melee specialist by comparison. you're going to have to rely a lot on disengaging meaningfully with vet with the knife stuff. The knife alone as a weapon with its dodge value carries the majority of the weight.

[formal hamlet]

I rarely ever dodge.

[patent orbit]

dodging is the most important survival tool in darktide

[vivid bolt]

Rebind jump off of space and dodge.

[abstract moth]

Hahaah

[tall torrent]

Step 1: acquire a godroll Rashad combat axe
Step 2: click mouse 1 (you have to click mouse 1)
Step 3: murder everything

[vivid bolt]

Use a push to regain better dodges when you run the limiter

If you want more melee tips n tricks, zealot chat and ping me there

Cause it also depends on the weapons etc

[formal hamlet]

I created my zealot today, so will jump into that channel some time in the near future.

My heart belongs to veteran though, love shooting stuff.

[wanton dawn]

Good luck soldier

[patent orbit]

fresh level 30 vet here btw - can anyone recommend high-performing builds/weapons besides plasma, revolver, psword, etc

or a good source for those things

[wanton dawn]

Zealot chat is where hope goes to die

[gusty bison]

Anything not the recon

XD

[wanton dawn]

Bayonet

[formal hamlet]

Anyway, appreciate all the tips guys, I'm going to swap out those perks you mentioned on my gun and melee, run a few missions and call it a night since it's almost 8AM for me.

[gusty bison]

Night?

Niiiight?

[formal hamlet]

Well, guess it's day now.

[abstract moth]

I'm a veteran main, never going into other classes chats kek

I wonder hows zealots class chat tho

[wanton dawn]

Me omw to work watching ppl calling 8 am a night on weekday

[patent orbit]

which weapon do you use for bayonet

[wanton dawn]

Everytime i check i get an eye burning message pop

[wanton dawn]

Lucius hellbore mk1 or mk2

[abstract moth]

Hahaha

[patent orbit]

word, ty

[vivid bolt]

And Veteran chat is where mid life crisis occur

[wanton dawn]

Aaaaannd gif of a skater showing his crack

It is a curse i tell ya

[vivid bolt]

zealot chat is fun

[abstract moth]

Don't why but when I think of zealot chat I imagine a horde of zealots zooming with a knife or hammers

[amber cliff]

Didn’t know full moons occur in discord

[whole moon]

Ogryn chat is where the maffs gets done

[amber cliff]

So does psyker tbh

[vivid bolt]

Or… other things.

[amber cliff]

It’s lore accurate

[vivid bolt]

Ogryn chat is where… Ogryn things are said.

And not math.

[abstract moth]

Good thing i never checked

[vivid bolt]

Nah dw zealot chat is actually chill as fuck

[amber cliff]

Would..you like to

[vast ferry]

Anyone got a Chainsword roll to share? Looking for weapon rolls I should run in Damnation when I'm ready.

[vivid bolt]

Prolly the most chill chat

In terms of people

[whole moon]

I kinda miss the days where Zealot chat was wall to wall catears and femboys, always a crazy time

[amber cliff]

Have to take your word. Never use zealot chat

Bunch of strange folk.

[vivid bolt]

not so different, just less of it

[wanton dawn]

We get zealot refugee at least once a week

[whole moon]

as my gran used to say, 'nowt as weird as folk'

[vivid bolt]

I’m literally just here cause zealot chat regulars are usually in another discord

[amber cliff]

Before the great Darcy migration

[abstract moth]

Would like to believe you but all the most toxic players I find are always zealots and not to hate one the class I play everything just a fact that happens to me

[spark helm]

oh dope snk enjoyer in vet chat

yay

I see u

[vivid bolt]

Same shit can be said about every class

[formal hamlet]

Oh actually, what's the deal with the plasma gun blessings not mattering? Worth inquiring about this since it's the only other loadout I have for my vet.

[amber cliff]

Ogryn most racist chat

[vivid bolt]

It’s a “you are playing a video game” issue

[vivid bolt]

truth

[whole moon]

Ive been called a monkey and a n----r before in game chat and there was this one fella who joined a voice channel here with 'zieg heil'. Most ppl seem chill tho

[wanton dawn]

Matter less than perk

[formal hamlet]

On Gameslantern, this guy has Blaze Away and Gets Hot! on his plasma gun, which seem pretty good.

[vivid bolt]

funny how the abhumans did that

[abstract moth]

Not really, I'm talking personally and 9 out of 10 are always zealots

[amber cliff]

It’s lore accurate ogryns are too dumb to tell anything but colour apart

[wanton dawn]

Standard yes

[vivid bolt]

I mean, cool? Report and block, move on.

[whole moon]

the raw damage of the plasma means it gets so much more utility from a 25% damage buff in select areas than it does from any of its blessings

[vivid bolt]

I’ve played with hundreds and it’s pretty damn consistent in toxicity

Now certain subsets of each class are def the more vocally toxic portions

[junior grail]

I've got one like that too, its good

[amber cliff]

Isn’t there a blessing (not in the game anymore) where venting overheat used to not deal damage to the user

[formal hamlet]

I see, so trying to get these two perks is the important part then.

[jolly cave]

I wouldn't say they don't matter at all. But perks help you get breakpoints and they're just flat damage. Not something like 8% damage with each shot, it's just 25% more damage, that rager is now a 2 shot instead of 3.

[amber cliff]

Course it was slower as a result

[abstract moth]

I never understood the malice all people had against the zealots then I played the game and got to know why

[junior grail]

Not heard of this

[vivid bolt]

Ex: Bleed loner knife speed runner zealots, Ogryns with ww2 loser syndrome, veterans who can’t shoot, psyker who blow up and rage quit, etc!

[frank ledge]

If player = bad
Toxicity = True

Every time, if a player struggles they are very likely to lash at anyone even suggesting to keep moving or use melee

[amber cliff]

Despite what my names says I swear it’s true

[wanton dawn]

Keep in mind that zealot and vet gameplay is kinda anti-synergy

[formal hamlet]

Gonna have to remember that word for Darktide; Breakpoints.

[amber cliff]

Maybe games lantern has the blessings listed

[wanton dawn]

So it creates frustration

[abstract moth]

I don't report, I just deal with it

[amber cliff]

It’s even got the old item descriptions

[vivid bolt]

? Am curious what ya mean

[junior grail]

Also remember to have fun, don't miss out having a good time while chasing meta and becoming potentially toxic

[amber cliff]

Been a year f’d where are they

[whole moon]

https://dt.wartide.net/calc/ this may be too much but its a calc that helps you calculate BP's and weapon damages. Disclaimer, it does NOT account for talent tree buffs

[formal hamlet]

My worst enemy as a Veteran is Ogryns who I swear have a rear mirror so they can always strafe right into every shot I take.

[vivid bolt]

talent tree buffs is usually just slap an extra 10-30% in your damage so

[junior grail]

Yes, massage their backs with your gun

[frank ledge]

It's going to be shortening

[patent orbit]

stir your coffee with a gun

[formal hamlet]

Great tool, but I'll leave it to more patient folks to use, I'd rather just get told what's good enough.

[jolly cave]

You're gonna love plasma then, shoots right through ogryn

[jade notch]

I seem to just be able to shoot through Ogryns with my Lasgun whenever I have Executioner Stance in effect.

I might just be imagining things, though.

[junior grail]

As much as many are against, I still suggest some amount of friendly fire.

Teaches teammates to clear the line of fire

[spark helm]

What are some of these mods people have been using for scoreboards and shrinked talent tree screenshots? figure I just dump what I'm thinking of setting up so far

[cloud current]

Am I a heretic for preferring power sword mkIII over the MKVI

[wanton dawn]

Vet is kinda slow to move, wants to stick to coherency and like peel. Zealot move fast and goes in the thick of it

[junior grail]

The Ogryn in me is proud

[spark helm]

don't care to test a lot atm, I'll just play it out and see what happens.

[frank ledge]

It didn't teach shortbow kerillians to not fite when behind

So it'll just make the game more confrontation prone

[vivid bolt]

Go to nexusmods and those are within the top 3 most downloaded

[vivid bolt]

I mean, sorta?

[junior grail]

Like it isn't now hahaha

[whole moon]

I am so frustrated with my Vet at the moment, I keep getting my ass handed to me on Damnation, need to 'git gud' and its painful lol

[vivid bolt]

Coherency just, doesn’t matter at all for zealots so

[wanton dawn]

I mean, kinda ? That was my point to begin with

[spark helm]

.com?

[frank ledge]

Now it's just vets crying
With ff it's gonna lead to griefing because of it and everyone crying

[vivid bolt]

I’d assume

[formal hamlet]

Besides the reload animation cancel I read about today, where you cancel on each "click" during reload to shorten it, are there any other tips to using this gun optimally? I don't really get what the right click does, so I've mostly just been left clicking with it. Venting also feels mostly pointless compared to reloading.

[junior grail]

You can try Mez's mod pack, it covers nearly all the essential mods you need

[vivid bolt]

tbh vet zealot is a great pairing considering they each excel in one area

They are complimentary

imo

[junior grail]

To each their own

[wanton dawn]

Until zealot run to narnia and vet is left fending by itself

[whole moon]

most of the vets recommend just spamming lmb attacks anyway

[spark helm]

just try "mez modpack" on the site? Or is this an author?

[junior grail]

You can find it on Steam

[spark helm]

mm

ty

[abstract moth]

I mean I like the idea but then imagine getting it used it on purpose or people who aren't very good at shooting and have a happy trigger fingers or flamer damage etc. I think is best this way but yes people don't actually care and they get in your line of sight regardless

[formal hamlet]

Do they use the venting feature a lot?

[junior grail]

https://steamcommunity.com/linkfilter/?url=https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h_sp-a0VmhhoXybZeUqAF4QnHT0MDBTB/view?usp=sharing

[vivid bolt]

tbh, if it’s a competent Vet and Zealot, they should be moving somewhat in sync

[whole moon]

word of warning, while the game itself has a memory leak that will eventually crash the game its also a known issue that some mods cause this to happen quicker and the more mods you have doesnt help either

[wanton dawn]

Not saying vet and zealot dont work. Just that it has an easy time going wrong in pubd

[abstract moth]

You got this

[spark helm]

yeah I just pulled it up too. thanks a lot.

[vivid bolt]

If you aren’t moving at the right times, that’s on you. If it’s pubs, just carry the game.

[whole moon]

I mean probably, its one of your heat management options and ppl will use whatever works situationally

[junior grail]

I did kill off randos I was annoyed with as Bounty Hunter, that was a guilty pleasure. Oh fun times

[jolly cave]

It takes some getting used to. I almost exclusively use left click, since charged shot is less ammo efficient. 3 shots worth of ammo for 2 shots worth of damage. There are some niche use cases, I'm sure. I vent quite often when I get to 100% heat. If the fight is ongoing its faster to vent, shoot, shoot, immediately hit vent, shoot, shoot, etc. Reloading takes too long in the middle of a fight without the right most keystone.

[gritty dock]

I have a question, is there any way to get the dog off of me?
Because sometimes I see how it works. 😉

[wanton dawn]

It is besides the point though

[topaz pebble]

If the dogs on you, no

[junior grail]

Stop seducing it hehehe

[topaz pebble]

Something external has to get the dog off you

[vivid bolt]

No.

I think ogryns are the only ones able to get out of a pounce

Probably wrong tho

[topaz pebble]

Nobody gets out of a pounce

[junior grail]

Its more of a prevent kind of situatiom

[wanton dawn]

Alt+f4 can

[sharp ember]

muties will bump a dog off you, otherwise throw a grenade at your feet before you get pounced

[vivid bolt]

Remember, you can block dogs

[whole moon]

I have no definitive proof but if all the team gets dogged doesnt one of em get up?

[topaz pebble]

No

[abstract moth]

This is true

[flint garden]

yeah left upgrade on ogyrn middle keystone can get the dog off you

[topaz pebble]

Hunting grounds, maybe

[junior grail]

Push

[vivid bolt]

This

Cause I was like

I def saw an Ogryn get up

After a dog got em

[junior grail]

Don't Zealot have a talent like that too?

[formal hamlet]

So before I head to bed for real going to modify this power sword, just want to double check if the changes I'm about to make are correct since there are no take-backsies in Darktide: I want to swap out Power Cycler 3 for Power Cycler 4 when I get it, and I want to replace Melee Damage (Elites) with...what was it again?

[jolly cave]

The other key thing to keep in mind is swapping between plasma and melee is really fast. Don't be afraid to kill most horde enemies with your melee and conserve plasma for elites, specialists, and far away shooters.

[amber cliff]

@junior grail https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/x4oIjNvuKN

Here’s a list of all the unused blessings in this game, it seems the taunt ability was once a blessing for weapons

And the plasma one I was in about

[formal hamlet]

Yeah, compared to my Helbore, it's pretty snappy.

[amber cliff]

Is mentioned

[sharp epoch]

Power cycler 4, and change the elite to either carapace/flak/maniac

[junior grail]

Ahhh I was aware about the Taunt one at least

[amber cliff]

I never knew, that’s crazy to me

[abstract moth]

Kek I'm a team player person I only really killed people when they were trying to kill an ally for no reason

[amber cliff]

Also a flamer blessing where with crits it takes ammo from reserve into clip

That’s crazy

[topaz pebble]

Change infested to maniac

[vivid bolt]

No

[topaz pebble]

Cycler 3 is completely usable

Keep elite

[sharp epoch]

Personally I'd do carapace if it can reach the two shot breakpoint on crushers, next I'd to flak just for the bodyshot misses sometimes

[vivid bolt]

Zealot doesn’t have any anti-dog talents

[trim steppe]

Why would they keep infested damage over elite?

[viral nacelle]

Melee attack speed 😂

[topaz pebble]

Why i suggested to keep elite and change infested to maniac

[abstract moth]

Isn't the relic on of them?

[sharp epoch]

cause elite 8% trash

[topaz pebble]

Its way better than infested lol

[formal hamlet]

Guess I'll have to sleep on this if there's no obvious choice between the 3.

[trim steppe]

wtf is 20% infested good for on a PS?

[viral nacelle]

Simply wave the weapon fast enough and the dogs are blended up before they can get you 🤦‍♀️

[topaz pebble]

Like, infested is dog and like poxwalker

Thats it

You already one shot those

[sharp epoch]

poxwalkers

[vivid bolt]

Not the anti-dog we are referencing

[topaz pebble]

You already one shot them

[vivid bolt]

We talking if you get pounced

[topaz pebble]

Why are you one shotting them harder

[vivid bolt]

Getting it off you

[sharp epoch]

itll deal with hordeclear better

[patent orbit]

i thought i had read that The Master's Retribution (left side of the tree) can knock a dog away, but I'm not sure

[vivid bolt]

Without assistanfe

[sharp epoch]

poxwalker

[topaz pebble]

You have brutal momentum

On a powersword

[vivid bolt]

Chorus will push dogs away tho if it’s active

Similar to shout

[amber cliff]

The anti dog talent for zealot is ME

Got that dawg in me already

[topaz pebble]

Keep elite, changed infested to maniac or carapace

[sharp epoch]

8% elite dont do any breakpoints

[vivid bolt]

That’s uh

A maybe

I don’t really use the left tree so 💀

[amber cliff]

Pretty sure it does

[topaz pebble]

And infested definitely doesn't

[flint garden]

does a dog eating your face count as a melee attack

[amber cliff]

Time to use left tree and find out

[topaz pebble]

Elite affects every elite enemy

[trim steppe]

keep your elite damage and reroll infested to maniac, and reroll power cycler to T4 when you find it

[sharp epoch]

It helps for hordeclear you not gonna be landing headshots every hit

[amber cliff]

It does damage so I guess so

[topaz pebble]

Infested affects 2 enemies

The mk6 has a horizontal cleave

[amber cliff]

Tbh it does just deal corruption damage so maybe not

[vivid bolt]

Tbh I hate that

Dogs trigger Until Death

[topaz pebble]

You literally need to fuck up intentionally to miss the head

[vivid bolt]

When they don’t deal fatal damage at all

[abstract moth]

The bash does knock dog and anything else with zealots, my favorite ability tbh

[spark helm]

if some people from here feel comfortable dumping some right tree builds using infiltrate I'd like to see. Weapon combinations help too. I know people dump em but I forgot to save any I liked.

Can also just float over to the build site I guess but i like what some drop here since it's usually different.

[amber cliff]

That’s fair, does the cleansing corruption talent make it so you get pinned for longer btw?

Never tested that interaction

[vivid bolt]

Uh

Hm

[patent orbit]

i'm told to avoid recon and then the best item ratings in my next refresh are both recon...funny....

[vivid bolt]

That’s prolly a

“It doesn’t fuck you as hard after” thing

[fickle lynx]

why avoid it

[amber cliff]

Stay strong brother

[topaz pebble]

Cause they're a worse colomnus

[abstract moth]

I made mine mainly to save people fast

[fickle lynx]

wut

[trim steppe]

cuz the recons got nerfed into the ground and are awful

[amber cliff]

Devil temped Jesus in the dessert

[whole moon]

get a couple of good ones in stock for the eventual rework 😉

[topaz pebble]

Ammo hungry, no damage

[jade notch]

Recon Lasguns are in a bad place right now and perform poorly

[fickle lynx]

oh what should i use then

[topaz pebble]

Like they were broken once patch 13 came out

[amber cliff]

There’s always the chance it means a dog can hold you hostage for 9 minutes

[topaz pebble]

Then boom, onslaught and shocktrooper get nerfed

[sharp ember]

hoard them, the inquisitor doesn't charge us armory space

[fickle lynx]

im new but level 29 and a half...

[amber cliff]

Just like how that aura interacts with grims

[trim steppe]

buy that 7a, the stats are great and if it gets patched someday it will be awesome

[fickle lynx]

just been using whatever looked coolest

[spark helm]

I usually take extra nades but having that talent isn't a bad thing usually.

[topaz pebble]

If you're not doing like auric, it dont matter

[amber cliff]

Your constantly losing and healing

[vivid bolt]

If it happens it happens ig

[topaz pebble]

You can still run recon

[vivid bolt]

I never take purity cause the tree is so ass

[amber cliff]

It’s funny because it mean your characters are constantly squealing in pain

Middle tree is goated stfu

[spark helm]

mostly just curious about what are some common setups with weapons mostly. It'll help me steer most of my decisions with a little more direct clarity.

[amber cliff]

Faster reload an

And ahhhhh

[topaz pebble]

Barkskin

[amber cliff]

Yeah

[topaz pebble]

Literally, best perk in V2

[vivid bolt]

Not above beacon 💀

[topaz pebble]

As a passive

[abstract moth]

Yeah having that and nades reloading is good

[topaz pebble]

Frags, my beloved

[amber cliff]

Remind me of beacon again

[vivid bolt]

Anti-Corruption

[amber cliff]

That the team wide damahe

Oh right

[vivid bolt]

Middle row, middle column

[fickle lynx]

wait im confused about how the weapon stats work if i have 2 of the same guns both common do they have the same stats or does one do more damage

[amber cliff]

EHOOPS

Ah

[vivid bolt]

The only good talent above it is

Shield of Contempt

Benediction gets

[amber cliff]

Worth

🔥

[vivid bolt]

Until Death, Holy Revenant, Duelist

[topaz pebble]

Shield of contempt is above beacon

[amber cliff]

Duelist is goated

[vivid bolt]

That’s… what I said

[amber cliff]

With the sauce

[topaz pebble]

I mean i read this

[vivid bolt]

Duelist is good, weapon specific tho

[topaz pebble]

And thought you said contempt wasn't above beacon

[vivid bolt]

Yea that’s

[amber cliff]

And that -10% stamina usage on running

[spark helm]

The main ones I usually take for right tree builds is like, whatever starting right tree first tier, either middle or right aura, krak or smoke, then the rest is mostly right tree with double dipping into the melee talents for the end of right tree before weapon specialist. when i take addons for it it's like almost exclusively the mag refill one.

[vivid bolt]

1/5 talents

[amber cliff]

🔥

[sharp ember]

weapon rarity does not affect damage, you have to read the actual base stats

[amber cliff]

Run more talent

[topaz pebble]

Sainted gunslinger is good for revolvers and shotguns

[amber cliff]

🔥

[topaz pebble]

Well any ranged weapons really

[amber cliff]

I’m so running that new rev on zealot

[topaz pebble]

Emperors bullet, now that's amazing with revolvers and shotguns

[amber cliff]

Mart gun slinger rev with eye patch

[vivid bolt]

Not… really

It’s so negligible

[amber cliff]

Get up close and delete while wasting all your ammo

[topaz pebble]

10% melee speed really isnt negligible

[amber cliff]

Yer negligible

[spark helm]

@abstract moth

[vivid bolt]

It is when the instance it occurs is eh

[abstract moth]

Ah can't help you there I just made mines with the common sense to what it looks good to me never really delwed into the nit picks of stuff but I'm using a knife and helbore or plasma gun for infiltrate

[vivid bolt]

That node is more a

[topaz pebble]

Which is on demand cause you can choose to keep your revolver loaded with only one bullet

[vivid bolt]

“It’s not bad to have but don’t go out of your way”

[spark helm]

honestly it's never a bad idea to go about it like that.

I can read and play around my own setups before being more precise with what I'm looking for.

[vivid bolt]

keeping one in the chamber for a revolver is sorta yknow, important and can save your ass

Trapper you didn’t see? One bullet solves it

Ezpz

[topaz pebble]

Yes, which is why I said you can choose to keep 1 bullet loaded

[spark helm]

still got a solid plasma that fits any build I use. can do that while farming for a solid shotty. and I've been burning any blues and purples that have blessings I don't have yet and aren't weapons I'm even thinking about holding on to immediately.

[vivid bolt]

Emperors bullet is simply a travel node end of day

[spark helm]

so eventually I'm making what I want, just fucking take forever with this game's way of progression in some ways.

[vivid bolt]

Just like loner

[topaz pebble]

Like, ill take left tree over middle just cause benediction and revenant are broken, but middle is definitely better than right

Which has thy wrath be swift as like the only good passive

[amber cliff]

Take that back

[vivid bolt]

Loner is useless lol

[amber cliff]

Loner is the best aura in the game

[topaz pebble]

Loner is the worst aura in the game

[spark helm]

look m8

[topaz pebble]

And it really doesn't help that most loners are usually terrible and selfish players

[amber cliff]

It’s the best aura in the game

[vivid bolt]

See issue is, TWBS is crucial to certain weapons

But yes the middle and right trees in the 2nd section sorta eh

[spark helm]

loner is good exclusively for the zealot that wants to take it, but just being a walking coherency beacon without much else is uh

eh

[amber cliff]

Because when I run off to kill things and my team dies cause they are bad

It saves me

It’s goated

[orchid hollow]

fax

[topaz pebble]

You're better off with benediction kek

[vivid bolt]

coherency just don’t matter for zealots so uh yea

[feral jetty]

hey vets, I hope yall are having a good night cause if you're not i'ma give you an ogryn™️ hug

[vivid bolt]

Any toughness regen you get from it is meh

[spark helm]

when you're the only one that makes it so that you matter yeah

[amber cliff]

More like benndicktion

[spark helm]

I guess it is good lol

[topaz pebble]

Loner like only kicks in when you're not in combat

[amber cliff]

🔥✍️🔥

[topaz pebble]

For like, 2.5tps

[amber cliff]

Ye all the time for me. CUse I killed everything already

[vivid bolt]

due to zealots always being in melee, coherency don’t matter for any toughness regen

Hence why loner is bad

[mystic mica]

So, you boys think we're getting the update in the next few hours?

[amber cliff]

I hope so

I bet my left nut

That it would

I hope we get a revolver skin that makes it less beefy with a longer barrel

I want to red dead 2 mfs

[abstract moth]

I went mainly for right tree aside getting better grenades and getting 5 of armor when enemies aren't around in 8 m and immunity to slow down for 6 sec and plus 50 armor when it get destroyed then I went for the grenade refill perk, added 4 percent to all my curious of refelling main ability faster

[whole moon]

?

[amber cliff]

Yeah I’ll run that I guess

Thanks

[topaz pebble]

Ew, laser on the revolver

How you gonna rotate bulwarks now

[whole moon]

by sending the zealot in and waiting

[amber cliff]

Chastise the wicked into them

[abstract moth]

Hahaha

[final rapids]

It's best thing ever when you decide to use your krak grenades on the horde and then a mauler wave decides to spawn immediately after

[gloomy kestrel]

Dont use kraks on horde? They aren't that good

[final rapids]

I mean I have the grenade regen perk, might as well use them for something

[gloomy kestrel]

I find when I need kraks I need all three of them at the same time

[vivid bolt]

This wouldn’t be an issue if you wait for the intended target.

[gloomy kestrel]

It's really nice with focus target on bosses

[spark helm]

agrip shotty is the fire one right?

[gloomy kestrel]

Kant

[spark helm]

legit don't remember what distinguishes the shotties

[gloomy kestrel]

Agrip is slug

[spark helm]

any that are decent at horde punching?

[topaz pebble]

Uh

[spark helm]

gambling on a rashad grey, if it goes well I'll build up the shotty

[gloomy kestrel]

Kant is fun for hordes occasionally due to high damage

[topaz pebble]

Kantrael has the highest base damage

And spread

Agrip has a tighter spread with faster rof

And lawbringer does not exist

[odd sparrow]

Kant aka fire shotty is better at horde, the special fire shot has infinite cleave

[abstract moth]

I only use it for keks on hordes only when I'm just about to get to the exit or thers grenades nearby my aim is for maulers and crushers the rest i just straight zealot in because i have a melee bulid with kraks

[alpine pebble]

ironsight 's best sight

[topaz pebble]

I wouldn't even bother with kraks on hordes

It has no aoe

[gloomy kestrel]

The fire shell is very situational, I enjoy the Kant shotty alot but i find plasma is just more versatile at higher difficulty

[topaz pebble]

You'll kill more in the time you spent pulling out the krak and throwing it

[whole moon]

Don't need to very often with the laser

[spark helm]

just popped this one. not the end of the world if it's not exactly what'd be better for me but seems not too bad. I can make almost anything work.

helpful recommendations preferred.

[topaz pebble]

Swap thunderous with BM

Groaners with maniac

Usable axe

[spark helm]

t2 enough? I think I got it saved somewhere.

[topaz pebble]

Yeah, cause you can upgrade it to t4 when you get it

[spark helm]

right you get two changes max

[topaz pebble]

And the damage difference is like 5%

[spark helm]

yep I got it in there.

until something changes I legit fuck with bm heavy

[topaz pebble]

So for perks you got maniac unarmored, blessings you got bm and decimator

Totally usable

[spark helm]

I kind of...want to try gambling on this kantrael since this well enough on the first try.

[topaz pebble]

Go ahead, if you got the resources

[spark helm]

got enough to pump it up and I think I got some passeable collection of their blessings rn

[vivid cedar]

is there any difference between the mk 3 and the mk 6 power sword other than the attack combos?

[topaz pebble]

Shotguns are really mid-bad imo, but its fun

[spark helm]

not the end if I don't get what I want in the end, plasma I got ain't bad.

[gloomy kestrel]

Kant can get some pretty beefy damage boost blessings

[topaz pebble]

Thats the only difference between weapons

Wdym

Mk6 is infinitely better than mk3 tho

[spark helm]

yeah I play off vibes almost exclusively. I don't ignore strong stuff and sometimes I like it a lot (lowkey love infiltrate with plasma gun), but if I can make the other shit work I'm doing it. idc about the added burden of effort most of the time.

[gloomy kestrel]

I don't hate the mk3 for it's heavy swings

[topaz pebble]

Here's how I see it, I already kill everything with my mk6 swinging lightly

If I need somethign dead, push attack does it better

Mk3 not having a movement penalty is like, alright

[spark helm]

Plus I make riskier play look good (most of the time when I'm using what I'm already solid with).

[topaz pebble]

But thats about it

[spark helm]

never played with the axes much.

[topaz pebble]

Axes are really good

[hollow turtle]

Lol bayoneting a pack of hounds while they're stunned by a smite psyker actually feels terrible.

[spark helm]

welp this what I got

[topaz pebble]

Yeah thats usable

[spark helm]

the close dmg sticks after swapping right?

[gloomy kestrel]

Fire frenzy is good

[spark helm]

I play off of agile engagement frequently on the quick swap for revolvers in the past.

as an example of where this question is coming from.

[gloomy kestrel]

No respite is a nice second and I think maniac/flak is the ideal perks?

[spark helm]

for stuff that's newer to me, I don't mind just kind of going with what's safe/what I can stretch to get away with. that flak shit is annoying when it matters in damnation lol

after I understand that, that's when I branch off harder until I don't have the patience with different stuff.

[gloomy kestrel]

As long as you aren't having to shoot a lot to ads put down mid ranged gunners you're good

[spark helm]

Yeah that's usually the issue with me and shotties: i got pretty shit discipline sometimes becuz of infantry lasgun brainrot vs other shooters lol

sometimes I'll burn like three rounds into normal shooter goons. fuck the ammo I want them to stop shooting.

lol

[hollow turtle]

Relatable

[gloomy kestrel]

The loss of our instant reload hurt shotguns a bit imo

[spark helm]

and, no sweat to vet but, I only do the crazy plays on zealot. class is built around it better

[gloomy kestrel]

Vets job is to murder specials as soon as they spawn

[spark helm]

I'm not that good to make suicidal dives work consistenly on right tree vet yet lol

[gloomy kestrel]

Nothing fancy

[spark helm]

evis zealot? sure, fuck it step into the pit. knife right tree zealot? I play shade, I'm at home/.

that kind of logic

[gloomy kestrel]

You can get away with some serious nonsense though with a good p sword and activation anim cancelling

[spark helm]

veteran? lol hello? no.

[topaz pebble]

Take shout

Take wep spec

Melee weapon and a revolver

[spark helm]

Don't say that name.

[topaz pebble]

You are jesus

[spark helm]

I don't NEED IT I CAN BREAK THESE CUFFS

< literally didn't break those cuffs three runs ago.

Still had fun

i'm too stubborn

[pastel geode]

Shout vet screaming about Cadia is the true meta

[spark helm]

full meme

squad mates need to bully cadians more

fuck em

[topaz pebble]

Not my fault cutthroat has the best ult lines

[spark helm]

idc about 40k enough for the vet ones just cadian about cadia. I like loose cannon.

it's fun that loose cannons will just random as fuck on op comms just

"hey we could consider desertion"

🙂

[gloomy kestrel]

I enjoy the vague professionality of the roughneck

[spark helm]

like bitch you literally just got locked up for sedition. my m8

pls

[hollow turtle]

🤔 I got this feeling that based on #📈player-polls, there's a good chance that Tanith might be something they're working on. Might be a good time to pick up the shemagh.

They already released cosmetics for the top 3 regiments that were chosen in that poll. Tanith would be the 4th highest.

[spark helm]

whoever wrote some of those longer sarcastic lines for loose cannon to cadian cutthroat got some spice.

Not some stale internet irony kind of delivery too with the dialogue.

[hollow turtle]

Lol I want to hear those two guardsman bickering again where one was making fun of Cadia's downfall.

[fickle lynx]

is this good or is there better lil confused on the damage n stuff

[spark helm]

"Perhaps you're homesick, amiright?"

[topaz pebble]

Stats are good

Perks and blessings really arent

[spark helm]

"I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT"

[topaz pebble]

And the gun isnt really good

[gloomy kestrel]

It's serviceable as a starter gun

[fickle lynx]

cant i change those?

[pastel geode]

I enjoy my angry mission focused Cutthroat, especially when they bite at the psykers

[hollow turtle]

"You'll fall. Just like Cadia."

[topaz pebble]

But you can still run it

[gloomy kestrel]

But recons are in a bad spot atm

[topaz pebble]

Yeah but then you have to pray your second perk and blessing are good

[pastel geode]

“Compliments only mean something from professionals”

[fickle lynx]

how do i get a second perk / blessing

[abstract moth]

Why?

[spark helm]

back to that kantrael i got

[gloomy kestrel]

You can make them work with a good build but theyre entirely reliant on beaming heads and you can get better results with less effort from other guns imo

[spark helm]

I wanna swap the suppression one since eh, it's inconsisten for thinly spread enemies. I got no respite 1. that decent enough?

[unreal bone]

Warhammer 40k: Driptide

[spark helm]

there's hit and run 3. doesn't seem to bad on paper and I'm going to run stam talents and stuff

[gloomy kestrel]

I mean you can always try to get better no respite later

[spark helm]

probably just add a wound curio and call it a day and do a run

[pastel geode]

Drip you say?

[spark helm]

deathspitter seems okay on paper to me

[amber cliff]

Imma be real I’m not fucking with your fashion

[abstract moth]

Which is the best axe btw?

[gloomy kestrel]

Deathspitter is really nice for close mixed horde

[fickle lynx]

w opinion

[spark helm]

people like the rashad alot and I enjoyed it the few times I used it originally.

[fickle lynx]

being real i dont rock w this

[amber cliff]

[fickle lynx]

too much face

not enough cool mask

[spark helm]

fuck it imma try the suppression one on last time, one last hit

this time I'm done

I swear.

(I'm lying. :/)

[abstract moth]

@pastel geode you could've chosen a name from your mind

[gloomy kestrel]

The suppression is okay but a lot of enemies will already throw their hands up or scramble when you shoot near em

[spark helm]

|That's kind of the opening I'm looking for

[amber cliff]

Small women with sword will always be hardest drip

[abstract moth]

I suppose I'm going to try them all a bit never really used axes

[hollow turtle]

Oh we showing off our drip now?

[unreal bone]

Which one don't you like lol.

[pastel geode]

Eh, i find it funny being a “Callista Clone”

[unreal bone]

I'm a big fan of them I think the veteran is probably the weakest of the 4 I have.

Btw is there a red helmet that matches this set for veteran?

I know ZEALOT has one--but does Veteran have one that I missed in the past?

[fickle lynx]

ogryn and psy n the only good ones IMO

[amber cliff]

here is my gunker load out. Im gonna be using that new rev with it

blind cowboy

goes hard

[pastel geode]

I chose this name cause my psyker friend hates it

[unreal bone]

The Zealot one is temperorary until they bring back the red guardsmen outfit for zealot.

[hollow turtle]

The only black and tan armor set up you'll see.

[sharp ember]

didn't that set include a helmet

[fickle lynx]

that

that right there

that

is the fuckin fit

[unreal bone]

Nope it comes with a bandana and headphones.

[spark helm]

janky screenshot but bear with me this once @abstract moth

[hollow turtle]

Shoot. I've been looking for that coat.

[fickle lynx]

put that boy in the fron page

[amber cliff]

They fucked up my shit bruh what do i do????? 😭😭😭😭

Gonna kill my barber man

worst line up of the 41 mileniumm

[fickle lynx]

send bro for a stroll down the warp what did bro clip u with

[hollow turtle]

LOL

[abstract moth]

Lul typical, I find sad that so many people choose presetted names, I mean today I found a George R.R Ogryn that is somewhat original and it made me chuckle kek

[sharp ember]

bro got the inverse bowlcut

[unreal bone]

So does anyone know if this set has a matching red helmet that I missed out on in the past?

[hollow turtle]

Put that barber on the frontline

[spark helm]

oh yeah @gloomy kestrel too since you had input

[fickle lynx]

mine is humie

[amber cliff]

bro im gonna have to servitorise my barber

[hollow turtle]

I don't think there were any red helmets.

[amber cliff]

and then shoot then

them

BETTER YET

[unreal bone]

There is for zealot.

[hollow turtle]

That one only came with the headset

[pastel geode]

Warhammer 40k: Rogue Barber

[gloomy kestrel]

What am I looking at ker

[amber cliff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915168547255246902/1160038192079196231/warp.png?ex=6545a9c1&is=653334c1&hm=8a034ae807ebb082fefcd381462f658d836aa79a7e18b02b7462ac35c063cd76&

[unreal bone]

Zealot has matching helmets for their version of that outfit @hollow turtle

[amber cliff]

this is what im telling the barbeer

when i see thgem

[unreal bone]

It'd be wild if the Veteran didn't.

[hollow turtle]

Yeah. I meant for vets though.

[unreal bone]

Isn't there a mod that lets you preview all of the cosmetics in the game?

[hollow turtle]

The vet didn't have a full helmet for that armor set. They had the headset thing.

[abstract moth]

That's a shop head piece?

[fickle lynx]

why does it look weird on the bottom one

[unreal bone]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-be-taking-that-spongebob-patrick-star-robbery-burglar-gif-16207758

[spark helm]

if u scroll up it's the spread for the final tier of my right tree setup. took krak and ms aura just cuz that's what I'm going with. dipped into threat drop for infiltrate

[amber cliff]

Gun and Gn

[fickle lynx]

bottom one has places to go

[spark helm]

this is with the current weapon combo I'm about to attempt

[amber cliff]

is moving fast

[pastel geode]

We’ve only gotten headphones and welding masks to match it so far

[hollow turtle]

It's the Mortis mask, but without the decal. It actually looks better with decal, but the For The Drip mod is a little buggy right now.

[spark helm]

just some quickplay damnation thing or something

[gloomy kestrel]

Survivalist aura is the only one worth taking

[amber cliff]

BROOOOOOOOOOOO

ITS WORSE

IT GETS WORSE

[unreal bone]

Hmmm.

[amber cliff]

One of the line ups of all time

[spark helm]

I get that but I can usually make it work without it. Just end up being a little more risky with some decisions.

[amber cliff]

I think im gonna have to turn into a demon host at this point

looking at this shit put me at 100% peril

[fickle lynx]

are any of these good i chose this specific gun bc i can actually aim in

or are they all dog

[spark helm]

sometimes I'll slide in mid aura to just feed the damage to myself to make some ttk's less annoying.

[pastel geode]

Psyker hair clipping is the real endgame boss

[amber cliff]

its a toss up between top right and bottom left tbh

but don't use that gun

its shit

lol

[fickle lynx]

what gun should i use for vet then

[gloomy kestrel]

The amount of effective DPS and ammo economy survivalist adds to your team cannot be understated

[hollow turtle]

I'd say bottom left myself

[fickle lynx]

im level 29 almost 30

[amber cliff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915168547255246902/1160370426401263626/livegunner.png?ex=657e3e2c&is=656bc92c&hm=5eaa2dbd5366de44d380768a773f523315b40aa42f3b90875aca895f6af81111&

[pastel geode]

Bottom left if your dead set on it

[gloomy kestrel]

But also don't get too cozy with the tree atm because they're changing it again whenever part 2 comes out

[amber cliff]

im killing myself

WHAT DID HE DOOOOO

[abstract moth]

Mine is similar but I didn't get the lower keystones went for nades upgrades and armor

[hollow turtle]

When I see a veteran with survivalist in my team, I tend to switch to a different loadout that doesn't run it.

[spark helm]

oh yeah that's fine

[amber cliff]

😭😭😭

[fickle lynx]

well then what should i use

anythign BUT the melta gun fuck that thing

[spark helm]

mhm. I can see why before even playing it out. I can usually make it work but I just have to not slouch sometimes during stressful fights.

[pastel geode]

We don’t have a melta

[amber cliff]

they mean plasma

[gloomy kestrel]

You mean holy plasma?

Just don't charge shot

[fickle lynx]

plasma gun

mb

[gloomy kestrel]

Can't blow yourself up

[amber cliff]

thoughts on my cone of shame fit?

[fickle lynx]

r any other guns good that arent the plasma

[pastel geode]

Infantry autos you either go agripinna for the higher damage or columnus for the cqb brrt

[amber cliff]

columnus m5 is amazing

revolver is also great

[pastel geode]

Plasma isn’t even that good imo

[gloomy kestrel]

Columnus mk5, most of the lasguns, headhunter 7

[abstract moth]

I have the same outfit but as head pice I put either the black skull or golden one oh and the black veil matches well too

[amber cliff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/792590288480239626/1171442706321526814/169936410118753238.mp4?ex=65786189&is=6565ec89&hm=6c1a02efb82f4212cf1f40412cb8f51192791141faf6a6ad725173e11c9e2ab9&

beres what a good rev

can do

ignore goofy animation

[pastel geode]

Revolver is meta on every class rn cause of how strong it is

[amber cliff]

damage is amazing with right blessingss

[fickle lynx]

bro is not john darksouls

love the name

[pastel geode]

Even the gun psykers choose it or the columnus

[amber cliff]

they picked good name yeah

im so running new rev on gunker

that faster fire right will help me with my stacks

[fickle lynx]

so its either the revolver or the columnus mk5?

[amber cliff]

the animation in that clip is using the rev braced

if anyones wondering

[gloomy kestrel]

I'm going to guess new rev is going to be half the dmg of current rev

[amber cliff]

likely

[fickle lynx]

wait so should i use the columnus mk5 bc the rev is getting nerfed soon

[topaz pebble]

So wait

[amber cliff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/792590288480239626/1168496302255001600/16986616219079322.png?ex=65801e7c&is=656da97c&hm=d64d3a789ae98e7f4f28149752076880112de8a580e94857ab78968741f01a8e&

[pastel geode]

If you’re dead set on being a meta slave yes

[topaz pebble]

How you got new guns

[amber cliff]

thoughts on this rev

should I remove it

should i sell this rev

[gloomy kestrel]

Rev is good if you aim good and have good target priority

[fickle lynx]

i just want a gun that shoots bullets

[abstract moth]

Are they going to actually add new guns? I thought only variations in cosmetic type

[spark helm]

safe perk setup for kantraels again anyone?

[gloomy kestrel]

Columnus is a solid easy gun that's ammo efficient with survivalist

[pastel geode]

Then grab the columnus

[amber cliff]

the "new guns" are varients that will have different behaviours

[spark helm]

got t3 unarmoured and not enough for more than one swap but this stamina one can go

maniac call it a day?

[amber cliff]

ye

[terse idol]

The revolver variant is technically new

[amber cliff]

maniacs like always a good

choice

[topaz pebble]

Yeah, but how do you have it

[amber cliff]

or flak

[small echo]

Anyone have an all rounder Veteran build suggestions? Preferably in the talent tree

[gloomy kestrel]

Maniac is almost never wrong

[fickle lynx]

okay so now what should i use from these 4

[spark helm]

pops ragers harder right?

[fickle lynx]

bottom right one seems good to me but idk

[gloomy kestrel]

Ragers, mutants, flamers, etc

[spark helm]

good enough. maniac it is

[crude wind]

"all rounder" is pretty much straight down the middle

[abstract moth]

Isn't maniac specifically for ragers? I'm fixated on carapace and flak armor 25 plus damage

[spark helm]

alright time for a blind test run

[amber cliff]

mod

its just the animation

not the new rev

[spark helm]

qp damnation, time for the malestrom shuffle lmao

[gloomy kestrel]

Maniac is most of the enemies around the sniper in simulator

[small echo]

I'm currently using a combination of,

1. Agripinaa Mk VIII Braced Autogun/ Helbore mk 2 + Shovel/Power Sword

Any talent suggestions for these?

[fickle lynx]

help

[crude wind]

max level? or leveling?

[crude wind]

what level are you

[fickle lynx]

29 and 1k away from 30

[crude wind]

then none of these

[gloomy kestrel]

Don't roll for stuff until 30

[crude wind]

wait until you hit 30 and roll a better one

[fickle lynx]

okay

[crude wind]

the shop knows what level you are basically

[gloomy kestrel]

Max grey item quality is 380

[crude wind]

when you hit 30 you'll start getting better base rated stuff

[small echo]

I'm max level

[crude wind]

cool 1 moment then

[amber cliff]

i see everything

[pastel geode]

I’d go with the 3rd for less recoil

[abstract moth]

Dam brunt spies on us like hadron

[crude wind]

he is creepy O_O

[pastel geode]

I swear the shop rotations are affected by what difficulty you played before reset too

[spark helm]

yeah thixs fucks

thanks for the pointers.

i like this

[pastel geode]

He somehow usually has better stuff after I run damn

[gloomy kestrel]

Glhf

[amber cliff]

damn

ill just kill myself

then

[abstract moth]

No

[gloomy kestrel]

It would be nice if pt 2 came out today as a lot of things seem to be releasing today

[abstract moth]

Okri forbids it

[gloomy kestrel]

Also I think Tuesday is normal console cert day

[amber cliff]

for cousin..okri...

[crude wind]

try this

for Brauto

i might actually as well this looks fun

quick note @small echo

[small echo]

Ok

Thanks alot

[fallow escarp]

does scavenger affect the Make Every Shot Count penance?

[crude wind]

you can swap onslaught for the melee crit/finesse thing

[shrewd sierra]

I can't wait for them to shrink our Vet tree a lot.

[crude wind]

if you prefer it

[crude wind]

soon brother

[shrewd sierra]

But at least I prefer playing my Zealot more now

[amber cliff]

yes

[spark helm]

@gloomy kestrel imma try this with ammo aura. i can see how i play making it better to go for it

[amber cliff]

take other aur-

bro i was gonna say that

):

[fallow escarp]

Dont got a choice when everybody else is running sadly

Trying to help friend get it

[amber cliff]

(:

[gloomy kestrel]

I only need them to free up like 2 points for me to be happy

[crude wind]

Combat Axe would pair well with this build

[abstract moth]

You can now

[amber cliff]

@fallow escarp what gun are you using for it

thanks bro

maybe its not so bad

maybe..

[fallow escarp]

Im not doing it my friend is

[amber cliff]

maybe,,,,

[fallow escarp]

Hes using lawbringer shotgun