veteran-class

[frail citrus]

i stand unimpressed

[viral nacelle]

Oh well

Oh I have a build I like finally

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9abf8b20-bb8f-49e0-a880-5f1eff7cb269 behold

no im not kidding with all the stamina

or the stam regen

[sharp ember]

just heard a scab shooter react to a player saying they were low on ammo saying "No more ammo?! >:D"

[viral nacelle]

the idea is to blast out constant crits with the lasgun

[viral nacelle]

they keep adding more voice lines and reactivity and i love it

oh also devils claw is fucking best weapon ever because parry

why was i never told

i feel so betrayd

[frank ether]

kekw

[viral nacelle]

i always go for more weapon variety

[mellow adder]

Woops wrong sword lol

[mellow adder]

Wondering if I should reroll left or just keep right, still farming for Rampage IV

[jolly hemlock]

its such a joke they give out garbage skins as a escuse to not give the people their aquilas. and im not even affected but i hope you guys get your aquilas dont give up this is a fucking scam

[midnight mortar]

No way, really?

[midnight mortar]

You get used to it with Fatshark. 🙃

[hybrid river]

Keep right for now

Shredder is too low on the left

[solar bone]

Huh... well that was a really weird chain of whatever up above on the plasma gun. I all can say is blaze away is good, 73% charge rate is the best charge rate current, I hope they fix that shit shit bug so you dont need check rolls in the pins and that I'm not sure you should ever pick flak as a perk

[midnight mortar]

The right's better for now.

[sharp ember]

yeah, you normally dont hear them get a chance to speak

or speak loud enough to be heard under the sound of battle

[midnight mortar]

You sure it wasn't one of their lines they say when they run out of ammo?

[jolly hemlock]

tbh i would wait untiol the next vet rework is done i made so many weapons for vet by now which are garbage by now

[sharp ember]

it was a reactionary line, yeah

they have lines for suppressed players, players trying to reviving allies, stuff like that

i also remember a scab calling out "They're reviving the brute!"

because we were trying to get our ogryn up

[viral nacelle]

Meh

[hybrid river]

I’ve heard “they’ve mended the brute!” After the ogryn was back up

[viral nacelle]

Patches will eventually bring stuff back into style

[jolly hemlock]

maybe xD

but its frustrating tbh

with the shitty gamble system

[spark helm]

Welcome to the world of cyclical balancing. Nothing is true, everything is tentative.

[viral nacelle]

I mean yeah obvi the weapon system is ass but 🤷‍♀️ it is what it is

[spark helm]

More like most things are tentative but whatever.

[iron marten]

just made this plasma lmao

[jolly hemlock]

i just make weapons work as cheap as possible and save my stuff until they made up their mind with the weapons etc

[midnight mortar]

Seriously? I have never heard a single one of these lines before.

This sounds crazy.

[sharp ember]

https://youtu.be/bbg3ygu5e20?t=110 here's the mined voicelines

[frank ether]

bizarre

never fkin heard

those lines

how

[midnight mortar]

Yeah what the fuck

[sharp ember]

some of them anyway

[midnight mortar]

The hell

This would add so much extra life into the game.

All I ever hear are the alerted dialogues and taking cover/position.

[sharp ember]

it's just that we don't give them a chance to live long enough to say them

and yeah, spotting/repositioning lines take priority because they barely have a requirement to play

[ruby totem]

Hard to say you need cover when a gunlugger ogryn points his burst shotty down the little hallway you're in with your buds

[hybrid river]

Also they will say a lot of these lines out of ear shot because the scab ai is smart enough to stick to cover in the distance until you are out in the open or pinned by specials

[ruby totem]

"A-"

[frank ether]

roll a 380 knife, 68 penetration

bruh

[hybrid river]

Deserved for using knife on vet😔

[sterile phoenix]

Worth picking this up for melk bucks?

[ruby totem]

Just stab harder

[hybrid river]

Bricked

4 for 4 useless perks and blessings

[sterile phoenix]

Ah rip. I'll hold off then

[karmic musk]

Melk has delivered

[south garnet]

neat

[pulsar drift]

Emm I just saw the another rework is coming up

Or is it already in the game

[south garnet]

yep, new-nu-new tree coming december

[hybrid river]

Next update

[pulsar drift]

Oh okay

Any previews?

[south garnet]

in news yea

[pulsar drift]

In news it only says : new rework

[civic knot]

I feel like i as a veteran can do better dmg wise. Thoughts? this is auric hi intense

[pulsar drift]

I mean like what they actually going to change

[south garnet]

specifically on the rework no, there is no detail - that will be coming with patch notes as always

[pulsar drift]

Oh okay

Hope they bring a better marksman

The right and middle just feel fine…

[solar bone]

Welp hadron about to brick the shit out of this wish me luck

That is uh. That is less bricked than I thought it would be lol. That seems alright, what do I do with it?

[eternal sable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1180149094245748736/rapidsave.com_97wht1lecbj91.gif?ex=657c5e7e&is=6569e97e&hm=3d4a8873bb55ac8a8e945ccb8d45fa5bd85705497e447894c572a542121b3207&

[karmic musk]

Prob change Fire Frenzy and Infested, not sure what Blessing tho

[pulsar drift]

What’s this btw

[untold mulch]

This ain't Zealot chat 🗿

[hard cave]

begone femboy

[eternal sable]

😭 no

[hard cave]

keep that to your other half

[frank ether]

day 234784 trying to roll take a swing IV, I ended up with deci 4 uncanny 4 again

[hard cave]

only they should see those comfy programmer socks

[pulsar drift]

Yea definitely

[hybrid river]

Only detail is that the focus is on making the keystones easier to get to

[civic knot]

i feel like this weapon has shortcomings i cant really get around no matter how i build

[eternal sable]

😭

[pulsar drift]

Well I run plasma gun and power sword

None are ideal but still can deal tons of dmg

Of course melee

[ebon umbra]

longlas leaked

[pulsar drift]

Oh btw guys

[civic knot]

What are the best guns for Vet?

[torn gorge]

all of them

except accatrans

[eternal sable]

the best gun obvously is the helbore and plasma gun

[pulsar drift]

Does larger ram helping the game to load faster?

It’s kinda weird my labtop loads really fast live under 30s but my pc takes years to get in

[torn gorge]

do you have like 4GB of ram in total?

[pulsar drift]

32 on my labtop 16 on my Pc

[torn gorge]

Darktide process takes about 2.9-3GB of ram while active

[pulsar drift]

Then that’s weird cuz the ssds on both my labtop and my pc sucks

[torn gorge]

you may just have faster ram or a faster cpu on laptop

[pulsar drift]

Yet my pc takes like 3-5 mins to get in the game

[untold mulch]

Don't hurt me

[pulsar drift]

Nah my pc has better cpu

That’s what confused me

[slow spade]

when is the Part 2 update coming out? its already december 😔

[torn gorge]

most likely the 5th?

[patent stirrup]

what perks do you guys think i should put on this power sword?

[untold mulch]

fr they already behind schedule smh

[pulsar drift]

Weird

[untold mulch]

Looks like

4th final testing, 5th release

[slow spade]

Brb refunding Darktide after 500 hours

[pulsar drift]

I m gonna change my ssd too if that solves the problem

[torn gorge]

only 500? definitely slacking there

[eternal sable]

500 are rookie numbers

i had to make my steam profile so my friends dont bully me

[pulsar drift]

I m 527

[midnight mortar]

The damage numbers only tell a small slice of the story. Getting the expanded scoreboard that shows which ranged enemies, specials, etc. you killed will give a better picture.

[hybrid river]

Brutal momentum and maniac

[karmic musk]

Coming next week tm

[pulsar drift]

Yea the dmg can be misleading

[eternal sable]

i hope this new map is an investigation 😭

[midnight mortar]

Elites -> Maniacs/Carapace
Supercharge -> Brutal Momentum

[pulsar drift]

Cuz some ppl just dump on horde

[eternal sable]

1 investigation mission makes getting the penance so shit

[untold mulch]

Right, they said December right?

not WHICH December

got you this time Fatshark

[eternal sable]

its either going to be this week or the week of xmas

like the 21st

[pulsar drift]

Probably around xmas

[patent stirrup]

ty :)

[untold mulch]

week of xmas is risky af, any grave issue that spontaneously occurs, wouldn't be fixed until like mid january

[slow spade]

didn't stop them last year lol

[pulsar drift]

Have zero faith in their working schedule

[untold mulch]

true

FAIR

[eternal sable]

yeah imagine they pop it out on the 24th then go on break till jan 1st

[untold mulch]

Nah, remmeber

[eternal sable]

leave the game in mayhem 4 fun

[untold mulch]

Fatshark learns their lesson

for like the own game

next game they forget

[hybrid river]

Their Christmas break is way longer than that

[untold mulch]

But this one is gucci

[eternal sable]

i think last update we got like a week after the trailer

[pulsar drift]

You sure about that

[eternal sable]

wont be surprised if its monday morning

[solar bone]

SHit went like

[untold mulch]

We bitched a lot last year about their christmas vacation

[solar bone]

late feb

[eternal sable]

just so they get the surge in players before xmas break

[karmic musk]

Dec 1st 2024

[pulsar drift]

Who knows

[untold mulch]

They legit last year left the game to die for what felt 2 months

[pulsar drift]

It’s okay tho

[untold mulch]

Just fucked off

[pulsar drift]

If they break the game I can just enjoy the break anyway

[eternal sable]

any of us who got the game last december shouldnt care anymore

[pulsar drift]

XD

[karmic musk]

Something something worker rights

[eternal sable]

weve been through it all

[fresh mango]

this worth buying?

[untold mulch]

Rogue Trader is next week

[pulsar drift]

Wait what

[eternal sable]

no

[pulsar drift]

Already?

[solar bone]

Pretty much and even then it was really uh slow going pretty much till the talent update in october

[eternal sable]

for power sword you want slaughter/bm + pc

[pulsar drift]

Oh

Just 6 more days

Damn

[untold mulch]

Don't be a smart ass about it

They barely said jackshit back then, with the massive bleed of players it was a bad time.

[untold mulch]

"We swear we ain't stopping dev for the console port"

[solar bone]

*Another Week *

[untold mulch]

lies tell me sweet little lies

[solar bone]

Swears

[fresh mango]

Me when making updates and porting a game isnt easy

[nimble sentinel]

fellas, I think I don't like revolver

[untold mulch]

Unless something changed, ROgue trader is scheduled for 7th

[nimble sentinel]

surgical does not jive with me

[celest vine]

Game should have been in the oven for longer

[solar bone]

Dont worry there will be a new one out soon

[pulsar drift]

Speaking of which I haven’t play BG3 yet

[fresh mango]

Oh absolutely

[solar bone]

might fit you betta

[celest vine]

Patch 13 should have just been patch 1

[iron marten]

Can’t wait to buy it, play it for 2 hours, and put it in the backlog

[fresh mango]

The game needed another year before it launched

[nimble sentinel]

do et, great game

[celest vine]

Im glad its better now

[untold mulch]

There is not being easy

and there is lying blatantly about it

[solar bone]

Everything up until patch 13 was basically and open beta that we all paid for

[fresh mango]

But to try and insult the devs for taking their time and not rushing out future updates

[untold mulch]

[celest vine]

At least as an xbox player i never experienced that shit

[pulsar drift]

I was having a lotta fun with pathfinder

[celest vine]

So it launched for me in an okay state

[iron marten]

I did the same with BG3 after 8 hours

[pulsar drift]

Gonna try BG3 and Rouge trader maybe like around the new year

[untold mulch]

Launch date was rough

[pulsar drift]

When I am finally in vocation 😦

[eternal sable]

this game on launch was an aboslute mess

[iron marten]

Yeah darktide launch was so funny. Like getting subpar frames in hab dreyko

[eternal sable]

old mutants, unstagerable dogs..

[pulsar drift]

They’re taking quite a few time, dark tide too

[untold mulch]

I couldn't launch T4

[eternal sable]

so much other crazy shit

[fresh mango]

the performance at launch was something else

[untold mulch]

Me and my bud played T4 at launch once in low intensity

Game was 15fps average

[fresh mango]

and then they started optimizing and somehow unoptimizing with every other patch

[iron marten]

Oh yeah Heresy difficulty bugged to be always hi intensity was pretty funny too

[eternal sable]

mutants had balerina footwork

[fresh mango]

I’d go from 60fps one patch to 20-30 the next

[untold mulch]

Dogs gave me nightmares

[eternal sable]

it was a 70% chance your push wouldnt work lol

[untold mulch]

AMD users just not being able to play for a time because someone fucked the amd code

[eternal sable]

so if you hear a dog you were like oh shit

[pulsar drift]

Still the game is horribly optimized

[eternal sable]

yo uhad to kill it or direct push it

[iron marten]

Could also throw the game by shooting a poxburster once, and give it stagger immunity from that.

[untold mulch]

AND THEN THEY ADDED THE WORLD EVENT OF THE DOG SPAM

I LOVE IT FOR SURE

[pulsar drift]

But it’s kinda weird

[eternal sable]

the 8 wave dogs.

that was a CLASSIC

ptsd

triggering just thinking of it

[pulsar drift]

Oh my pc ultra high and lowest have the same fps

Lol

It just sucks

60 but when horde

Especially the new map carnival

Is horrible

[tacit hearth]

Knoif

[pulsar drift]

Rip

[untold mulch]

Man, I heard back in the pearl clutch event ( ) some saying they would have preferred playing early than getting the aquilas

My ass they have no fucking clue how it was

[pulsar drift]

I started playing dark tide since this August when it was on sale

[tacit hearth]

Holy fuck

[pulsar drift]

Since then game been okay

[eternal sable]

classic 500 hour heresy main player comment

[tacit hearth]

God i feel like

Early access was cleanup duty

[pulsar drift]

It’s called paid beta

XD

[untold mulch]

fr

[iron marten]

When two bosses could crash your game

The entire lobby just crashes

[eternal sable]

if there was more early testing it would have been a lot better

[pulsar drift]

The warp takes everything it seems

[eternal sable]

but from what i remember fs had a gun to their head to release the game

[untold mulch]

Yeah

I can't complain to the normal dev

[eternal sable]

yeah

[untold mulch]

but I will bitch for millenia to the higher ups

[tacit hearth]

Yeee

Its sad how the game released

[untold mulch]

I curse them with their side of the pillow for always to be warm

🗿

[tacit hearth]

But its come a mile

[iron marten]

Well, according to old Fatshark fans, games being released like this without learning from their previous works is a common thing lol

[eternal sable]

its in a great state now

[hybrid river]

None of the launch problems showed up in the closed beta because 70% of the game wasn’t there

[iron marten]

Any VT2 vets can tell us how VT2 was at launch?

[eternal sable]

other than silent trappers and shooters full staggering you the games really good

[hybrid river]

Similar

Took longer for fatshark to start pumping content though

[untold mulch]

Yep, I did a bit of research after trying to process how much of a fuck up it was

Fatshark just sucks at releasign games, and fuck off dev wise until console port

[hybrid river]

But vt2 started with more content

[eternal sable]

DT should have been released as it is now, almost a year later after its release

[iron marten]

Can’t wait to play Darktide for an extra year when Darktide 2 releases then!

[eternal sable]

but unfortunately it didnt but we are here now

[untold mulch]

November 30th 2024 release

[untold mulch]

I believe there are no plans for DT2

At all

[eternal sable]

theyre going to milk this game like VT2

[iron marten]

Yeah, but when the time comes

[eternal sable]

gonna have like 10 dlcs eventually

[fresh mango]

I think if Darktide had 6-8 more months, we could’ve had a far better launch

[iron marten]

Unless this will be the Live Service game for the next 10 years

[untold mulch]

Life Support

[eternal sable]

aslong as our dumbasses keep buying their cosmetics

[fresh mango]

Another year and it woulda launched how Patch 14 was, WITH the vet keystones, and Traitors Curse woulda been the first big content update

[iron marten]

Well, I’m not innocent. I paid for the commissar fit so uh

[eternal sable]

imagine 2 years from now and we get some tau or necron dlc copium

[fresh mango]

hell no

[eternal sable]

bring in all the 40k homies

why tf not

[untold mulch]

Neither Tau nor Necron fit the gameplay

[hybrid river]

I’m still surprised people actually bought the dollar store “commissar” stuff

[untold mulch]

Like at all

[eternal sable]

true... but

they just started a "storyline"

and im an optomist

[iron marten]

Game is teasing some xeno stuff; the PA in the mourningstar said “possible xeno sighting in the deep hives” or something

[untold mulch]

Genestealers

[eternal sable]

tyranids are mos tlikley ?

[untold mulch]

Who said that?

👀

[eternal sable]

idk who else is in the tyranid universe

im not a nerd like others here

but bring them all in

[untold mulch]

Nah I was keeping my own bad joke of whispering GSC and running away

Tyranids per se, are too much

Genestealers that are some type of "subfaction" of them, yes

[iron marten]

I’m not a wh lore expert, but a daemonhost and beast of nurgle appearing in tertium should mean there’s something brewing within right?

[untold mulch]

Something is being cooked

thats for sure

[eternal sable]

40k lore is so deep, they could proably bring in anyone and somehow make it make sense from the lore

[torn gorge]

that can be just chaos cultists doing their things

[untold mulch]

Some Psyker quotes imply there is something much worse down there

in the underhive

so that would be fun

[eternal sable]

true

[torn gorge]

patriarch crawling in the underhive

[eternal sable]

right now scab and dreggs are boring as shit

[untold mulch]

I can solo him

[iron marten]

When does things have to get bad enough that Space Marines should get involved? Though the Cicatrix Maledictum or whatever is stopping us from getting reinforcements aye

[teal abyss]

I’m an Xbox player so haven’t seen many cosmetics, are there any good Helbore skins at all in any Aquila sets?

[eternal sable]

not any helbore skins i dont think

[celest vine]

I was wondering

[hybrid river]

Weapon skins have largely disappeared from the shop so

[celest vine]

Did that Cadian heavy flak armor ever get released?

[teal abyss]

Damn that’s a bummer

[torn gorge]

tbh adepta sororitas is prob more fitting than space marines

[eternal sable]

that would be super cool too

[torn gorge]

considering they have to purge a hive city

[iron marten]

I seee

[karmic musk]

We are Ordo Hereticus anyways

[celest vine]

This set

The red varient did

Wondering if the good one ever was available

[karmic musk]

Nope

[elder relic]

Want

[hybrid river]

The most likely to show up would be grey knights considering how many demons are popping up but right now no one can call for help

[untold mulch]

My guessing is they reserve the good shit for predicted spikes of people

[celest vine]

Does anything ever get recycled too?

[untold mulch]

so next store rotation is gonna be good after the big patch

[celest vine]

Like say will the krieg set ever re appear in the shop?

[hybrid river]

Most stuff in the store is recycled

[fresh mango]

they will in a year

[karmic musk]

Maybe several months later

[untold mulch]

Full price though

[eternal sable]

so VT2 has 18 DLCs

[untold mulch]

Why do more cosmetics when you can do one

recycle for eternity with 3 colors

[fresh mango]

16 DLCs 2 FLCs

[celest vine]

Has the yellow steel legion set been in the store?

I know at launch it was

By anytime after?

[karmic musk]

Nope

[iron marten]

The per dead end klast? Yeah

[fresh mango]

3 DLCs add entire new mission sets or an entire new faction and story

[celest vine]

I just want his lasgun varient

[iron marten]

It has appeared like thrice I think

[celest vine]

Its neat

[eternal sable]

i hope they go DEEP with this game

[celest vine]

VT2 has been ongoing since 2018

This will be going for awhile

[eternal sable]

i had this on my wishlist for like 2 years

[fresh mango]

Let’s do a little compare, VT2 came out 2018, and is still being supported this year

[eternal sable]

oh yeah its looking great now

[untold mulch]

And?

[karmic musk]

Not like Fatshark has any other cash cows to milk

[untold mulch]

2018 was 2 years ago

Duh

[celest vine]

And with space marine 2 being delayed, this is it for 40k console game

[eternal sable]

its a tide game so its super grindy, not many people like that but those who stay are more dedicated

[untold mulch]

[fresh mango]

Darktide only came out this year last year, so we’ve got a lot of support left to come

[karmic musk]

Tide game is grindy? X to doubt

[terse idol]

As long as FS doesn't do cosmetic upgrades I'm happy, especially the ones that didn't give you everything when you bought it

[iron marten]

2012 was 5 years ago 🤯

[untold mulch]

Fr fr

[fresh mango]

2016 was 4 years ago

[hybrid river]

I would prefer cosmetic upgrades you can get whenever you want over the fomo shop

[terse idol]

Kinda true yeah

[celest vine]

Hoping for an armor system

[eternal sable]

i missed the purple gnome hat for zealot

[celest vine]

Light, flak, and carapace

[eternal sable]

😭

[celest vine]

Extra DR for tiers

Slower movement speed per tier

[desert hawk]

doubtful given how much money the fomo shop rakes it in

[fresh mango]

between these two, which is better?

[hybrid river]

Left

[eternal sable]

every loby i queue in most people have cosmetic lol

its widespread

[karmic musk]

If it didnt work, they wouldn't have put it in

[eternal sable]

they gave everyone dockets in that bundle thingy

[karmic musk]

Fatshark is only competent in milking money

[fresh mango]

despite being a traitor, give her more cosmetics to sell

[tall torrent]

Untrue
The cash shop is not even optimized to be making as much money as possible

[eternal sable]

^^

[fresh mango]

it could be a battlepass

[eternal sable]

they could be milking a LOT harder

[iron marten]

god please no battlepass

[fresh mango]

I think we got off easy with a fomo shop

[mental parcel]

dairy farms

[iron marten]

god emperor* my bad!

[eternal sable]

imagine it was on a like 12 hour rotation

some f2p fps shooter vibe

cringe

[karmic musk]

They should hire you to double their profits then

[fresh mango]

i’d, actually prefer that

[eternal sable]

shameless milking

[fresh mango]

every two weeks refreshing making it incredibly hard to get any item you want

[tall torrent]

You can compare the cash shop to other major mtx heavy games and it’s not even close

[eternal sable]

imagine they sold weapon effects

like permant non mods

they could go crazy

[tall torrent]

It’s unoptimized enough to the point where people that want to buy cosmetics are not given the option to buy what they want and end up buying nothing

[eternal sable]

character effects.

[iron marten]

I probably would have gotten the krieg cosmetic, if the coat was allowed to hang freely, instead of being buttoned up to your knees or something

[karmic musk]

For one that buys nothing, there's 10 that buy something

Just look at the lobbies

[eternal venture]

as much as I hate to admit it, the cash shop in this game isn’t nearly as bad as it is in other games

Limited rotation and Monopoly money (aquilas) are the worst things about it

I just find it funny nobody ever complained about games like path of exile charging $40 for an ugly armor set that you can’t even try on

Doesn’t matter if the game is f2p or not

Or… valve charging you money to open your loot crates

🤢

[slow spade]

so you're saying they should go further?

UwU

[eternal venture]

And that was back when tf2 cost money to play!

[slow spade]

brb battlepass moment

[terse idol]

I'm still miffed they squished my bag

[slow spade]

I probably would have gotten the krieg skin if it was 2500 aquillas

[eternal venture]

I just want more wastelander gear for vet

[slow spade]

one day I might actually spend my pre-order aquillas

[eternal venture]

Necromunda keeps on winning

[jolly hemlock]

i think its more the many bad decision fatshark did

[jolly hemlock]

the state of the game at "release"

giving early adopter less quilas than late adopters

the many bad changes

weapon rng

people asked fatshark so long to do changes

and they keep ignoring it

[eternal venture]

Game released way earlier than it should have, which had knock-on effects for the game’s dev cycle

[jolly hemlock]

i dont dislike the cashshop per say and i agree the aquila and fomo stuff is the worst of it

[untold mulch]

The amount of bitching just to get numbers in the stat bars

[eternal venture]

I think it’s less that they outright ignored requests and more that they’re likely a year+ behind dev cycle

Either that, or the gears have already been set in motion and they can’t change course easily

[jolly hemlock]

ik and you are right but they did release it so they need to deal with the consequences

[eternal venture]

A lot of game dev can’t change tracks spontaneously

[midnight mortar]

Despite the nearly a year's worth of delays already. Not a good sign for how internal management handles itself.

[eternal venture]

There’s a good chance the carnival maps were already in development a year ago

Considering how the music for it was in the release soundtrack

[tropic hawk]

isnt this all par for the course with fatshark though?

[untold mulch]

The offices must be a firestorm of a mess

[eternal venture]

It’s par for the course for game dev in general

It is very very rare for games to release without tons of cut content

Historically, too

[midnight mortar]

Sadly yes despite 2 games of the same genre under their belt.

[eternal venture]

That’s not even a recent thing

Back in the day, studios would release unfinished/cut content in the form of expansion packs and charge you full price for it again

Like it’s understandable to get upset and cynical over the state of the game

As good as it is currently, and as much potential it has to be even better

[jolly hemlock]

tbh it just makes me sad i would love to see the game thrive more

more active player etc

[eternal venture]

DT is always gonna be fairly niche

It’s surprising to see it as active as it is honestly

[tall torrent]

Oh it is thriving rn that’s for sure

First year was bad yea but a LOT better rn

[eternal venture]

It’s a niche appeal setting, and system requirements are high

And the game has a high skill cap for your average player

[eternal sable]

its thriving like crazy

[jolly hemlock]

youre right gameplay wise

[eternal venture]

It is doing very good right now

It’s just not going to reach battlebit numbers or whatever for the reasons I outlined above

[jolly hemlock]

also auric was a good decision

[eternal venture]

And that’s fine

[eternal sable]

i just queued into the auric maelstrom and they had 6 total blessings between the 3 of them 😭

[eternal venture]

Auric was what brought me back into the game

[tropic hawk]

maybe they could go the fortnite route, put in all kinds of tie ins to up the acvtive player count

[tall torrent]

Not just gameplay wise
We got a ton more players and the game has a decent popularity rn

[eternal sable]

queueing maelstrom t5 with 1 blessing items is a sure way to win

[tropic hawk]

Pickle Rick as a reject, Ogryn nicki minaj

[tall torrent]

Darktide is steam global topseller #39

[eternal venture]

The main reason I stopped playing on launch and went back to VT is that I’d get thrown into low-intensity damnation nonstop

And that was boring

[eternal venture]

Hey I already see Uncle Ruckus and Heihachi in this game

[jolly hemlock]

yes the past 3 months lets hope it stays that way and fatshark keeps bringing out good patches frequently

[eternal venture]

I’d say the crossovers are already happening!

[tropic hawk]

Keep em coming I says

[iron marten]

Where is John Wick

He would definitely be knife and revolver

[eternal sable]

that explains these queues

[iron marten]

Haha

[tall torrent]

Yea
Fast queue
Lower avg player skill lvl

And that’s not counting the Xbox & game pass players

A couple of my friends play on Xbox

[eternal sable]

watching them in terror sometimes

throwing a heresy player into hishock

lol

[tropic hawk]

is the little circular icon with the hashmarks xbox or gamepass?

[tall torrent]

It’ll take time for the new players to improve to the hardcore playerbase’s skill lvl

[tall torrent]

That’s non-steam
Could be MS store, game pass (console/PC), or Xbox console

[tropic hawk]

I dont think Ive ever seen an xbox icon

Maybe saw one in a yt video

[eternal sable]

a mutant spawns and the psyker on my team just runs into a corner looking around

this games hallarious sometimes

[tropic hawk]

ya gotta lugh

[eternal sable]

legit level 34

[eternal venture]

Oh yeah I’ve seen a few HUNKs too

Stealth vets with gas mask and krieg gear

Knife and autopistol

[karmic musk]

Wait kreig gear?

i don't correlate krieg with Hunk

Steel Legion is more fitting

[eternal venture]

Yeah honestly some of the psyker gear looks more like his armor lol

Maybe if we get the Enforcer armor…

Steel Legion would look a lot like him if it were black

[tall torrent]

Not sure why but zealots consistently have better looking armor than vet in the shop

[eternal venture]

Probably just a lot more varied minis from the tabletop

I dunno

[karmic musk]

Zealots have our Moebian 21st set

[tall torrent]

Is it so hard to ask for one vet armor set from the shop where he actually wears armor that covers the whole body

[eternal sable]

shirtless vet when ?

ogryn got it

[eternal venture]

Meanwhile, we need more full cover ogryn armor sets

[tired ember]

Once you get into things like carapace armour, you cease being a guardsman and start being a tempestus scion. Not saying it wont ever happen, but probably not soon

[eternal sable]

#bodypositivity

show the nips

[elder relic]

Well I wana be a kasrkin

[junior needle]

Meanwhile ogryn gets a space marine skin

[tall torrent]

Doesn’t need to be carapace armor, full body flak armor is fine but it’s just not there

Only the free armor sets actually cover your whole body

Idk why cash shop skins must give us sleeveless vet

Skinny sleeveless vet

[fleet field]

meanwhile zealot has literal plate mail

[cyan arrow]

do I change wrath or supercharge for power cycler?

[eternal sable]

wrath

[elder relic]

You'd always want power cycler

[tall torrent]

Zealot armor stuff are so cool

[eternal sable]

nvm supercharge

[tall torrent]

And vet gets like, nothing

Outside of a couple “themed” outfits

[jolly hemlock]

ive had the same problems but if you play auric it gets better tbh

[tall torrent]

Auric is fine but doesn’t give more plasteel than regular

[jolly hemlock]

sadly yes

hope they patch it in but maybe it attracs players again then who are not ready for it yet

[karmic musk]

Call of Duty is the answer, must be cool for the kids, rambo aesthetics

[nimble sentinel]

hey fellas:

[tall torrent]

COD mostly doesn’t sell those skins now

The tactical gear on cod skins look better than skinny sleeveless vet in darktide

[static lily]

idk

[karmic musk]

Will just get flooded by Orcs or Spiders

[karmic musk]

How about the Diablo 4 skins

[static lily]

Peuterobo was corrupted by a less convincing sword

so probably not

[tall torrent]

Yea, not every skin is like that

[frank ether]

too greedy to thrive

[static lily]

idc that I mispelled his name

[nimble sentinel]

peter turbo*

[static lily]

PeurtoRico

[nimble sentinel]

petulant manchild

middle earth in the 40k universe, new heresy drops

[jolly hemlock]

i mean they do well rn but theyare already on the decline again the need to put up some good patches to retain players

[frank ether]

ofc its on the decline game everything about the game except the core gameplay loop is a fucking slop

and as if thats not enough they shoved crossplay down on our throats

its gonna be that kind of game

where its kept on life support via content drops

[jolly hemlock]

what i hate the most is that console can turn xplay off and pc players cant

[cyan arrow]

also which is better, mk3 or mk6 PS?

[jolly hemlock]

the world doesnt work like that

[tall torrent]

Why is crossplay a bad thing?

[jolly hemlock]

itsnot

never said its a bad thing but you should give people the option

i personally rather wait a few minutes to get a good lobby working

[frank ether]

I'm expected to put up with players who shit up my experience

[jolly hemlock]

than wiping a few times

or do the leave game until i get a good lobby

[tall torrent]

Play with friends? Idk?

[frank ether]

said players are priviledged to massive amounts of free currency

have the option to disable crossplay

[jolly hemlock]

they left because bad decisions 😂

[frank ether]

ok I'll only get to play the game I paid for when my friends are online, very smart solution lmao

[tall torrent]

Oh lol

[jolly hemlock]

you see this happens with friends when bad decisions keep beeing made

[cyan arrow]

PS 3 or 6 moveset better?

[jolly hemlock]

i like the 3 more

[elder relic]

Apparently the mk6

[jolly hemlock]

but i recommend buy a grey and test the moveset in meatgrinder

[frank ether]

Idk its not the end of the world having console joes to carry

the attitude is the problem

[jolly hemlock]

first week was the worst tbh toxic larries that die constantly

and you give them tipps

and they insult you

[frank ether]

the message you're given is that you're now second class player as a pc steam copy owner

[elder relic]

More classes to buy like v2 would be nice

[frank ether]

Its kinda normal business practice to make sales and promotions for new players

[jolly hemlock]

they are not in the state to make new classes rn. i agree it would be nice in future but they are so far behind with content

[elder relic]

In that case they should add some new enemies

Maybe a chainsword enemy or nurglings

[jolly hemlock]

i mean there are rumors about genestealers

[tall torrent]

Well you can’t really force people to not be douchebags so just, don’t take it so seriously?

[jolly hemlock]

they also have dialog lines for that

[hollow linden]

how this set lookin chiefs

[ebon umbra]

console players can disable cross play??

???

[elder relic]

That proba won't be out until near end of next year, who knows

[elder relic]

Cool drip

[jolly hemlock]

power cycler 3 i recommend to try and gamble get cycler 4

[elder relic]

Is that the killshot uniform

[hollow linden]

that was my gripe too reee

[jolly hemlock]

i use the same psword skin tho looks awsome

[hollow linden]

yes it is

had to lawbringer with a group of pals twice and pray i got it the second time lel

[elder relic]

Forgot the reqs for it, was it no melee damage taken on malice and above?

[frank ether]

ye

[hollow linden]

finish a heresy mission with no ammo remaining, 90% accuracy

[frank ether]

they can also have the pearl clutcher cosmetics

well they could anyways

[hollow linden]

actually i lied i did it with plasma gun

[frank ether]

the window of opportunity has passed

[hollow linden]

i want a pearl trinket at least

[nimble sentinel]

I have a question, more of a matter of opinion

[frank ether]

I dont like

blue ass cosmetic

with wide shoulderpad

it looks like its floating

[nimble sentinel]

do vets other melee options, in your honest opinions, outclass psword without power cycler?

[hollow linden]

as an ogryn main they did well for it, otherwise yeah the vanguard stuff was meh

[hollow linden]

this is what i used before i just rolled that power sword and it served me quite well

outclass i can't particularly comment

[nimble sentinel]

oh yeh no need to convince me I have a psword with power cycler 4 (and hate it)

[elder relic]

Use the catachan mk4

[nimble sentinel]

I just wanna know if anyone else hates it without even knowing they do

[hollow linden]

i just can't get a cycler 4 reee

[nimble sentinel]

maybe sew a little bit of chaos

[jolly hemlock]

ngl powercycler 4 was the only thing i was lucky ever in darktide i got it in the first week of release

on my first decent psword

[tall torrent]

Did they say when patch16 will drop

[jolly hemlock]

sometime in december

[tall torrent]

Friend of mine said December 20th

Not sure

[jolly hemlock]

they wont give a more accurate date to have some paddle room

[tall torrent]

Last time we got patch announcement it came 4 days after

[jolly hemlock]

ids rather wait a bit longer and get something more refined

the new map looks nice but damn the fps tank there

if you play auric damnation and get a big fps drop that can be death

[nimble sentinel]

the joys of a brand new rig don't ask me how my wallet's dealing

[jolly hemlock]

my pc aint bad but the fps drop is very noticabler

[still nebula]

LOL. That meme is 100% accurate when I tell people about Grenadier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDuUTC4P-cc

[karmic musk]

I swear these titles and thumbnails are AI generated

[junior needle]

Let me guess, it's being carried by columnus

[nimble sentinel]

what in the fresh clickbait hell is this comment?

[frank ether]

''grenadier''

sprays shit with ciag

ah yes

sounds about right

[karmic musk]

Isnt the 40K grenadier just some scion who got the heaviest boom weapons

[ebon umbra]

just paste a jpeg of the kickback on the screen

[still nebula]

not really, i tried it with agripina IAG, plasma and revolver
(now you can argue all those are "OP" weapons but if everything is OP then everything is the norm if you know what i mean)

[karmic musk]

So go Plasma + Power Sword + Grenade feats

[junior needle]

Agri isn't, but plasma and revolver most definitely are prime meta weapons currently

Agri is conventionally good though

[nimble sentinel]

"THIS UGLY SON OF A KARKER IS KILLING SUPER HOT HERETICS AND BASICALLY, YOU ARE FRAGGING STUPID"
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aa29726-c30a-4f57-ac9f-c429bc669d34/my-job-is-gun-lasgun-veteran

[junior needle]

I'll never cease to be amused by how this doesn't take exe

[karmic musk]

" Grenadiers carry a high percentage of special arms (such as Flamers and Meltaguns, etc.) and will also employ relatively unorthodox weapons such as Heavy Flamers in two-man teams. A Grenadier squad may also carry an additional Heavy Stubber to increase their firepower."

Vet flamer when

[frank ether]

wouldnt call agri op

definitely not weak by any means

tho

its like.. pretty up there

[junior needle]

That is why I said it isn't, unless you're just agreeing, in which case

[frank ether]

just agreeing

[nimble sentinel]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9abfb8b4-17b6-4895-a68a-0086b6d8429e/my-job-is-gun-2-exe-boogaloo

[junior needle]

So that build is just melee vet with voc and takes some grenade talents?

[frank ether]

I mean every vet build is a bit of a grenadier in a sense

twinned blast isnt very interesting

and everyone already takes grenade regen

[karmic musk]

Twinned Blast should be a guaranteed thing

[frank ether]

it doesnt really... have an alternative

the grenades are balanced as such that you need grenade regen to make them work

[karmic musk]

Throw two grenades next after killing an Elite/Special with a grenade

[frank ether]

even when guaranteed it does nothing for smokes

actual troll build

[karmic musk]

Fuck smokes

[leaden void]

what would be a fun vet revolver/infiltrate build?

[jolly hemlock]

i leave games with smoke vets

[nimble sentinel]

but for realsies, VoC is too good of a toughness regen, exe stance branch means demo stockpile is out of bounds and now you can't kill carapace, and I don't need to highlight shooters to dome them

[jolly hemlock]

not playing aside with that for a whole round

[nimble sentinel]

there is a method to my madness

[karmic musk]

Not committing to Exe Stance in dakka build, pfft fake gun

[still nebula]

build uses Frag (bleed) grenades which are currently very underrated judging from the comments here and there

imo in HISTG games they are sick, esp if you can regen them fast so you can throw 2-3 every time you see a huge group of mixed elites

[nimble sentinel]

VOC IS A GOOD ABILITY AND BETTER FOR SURVIVABILITY AND CARRIES GAMES AND IS NOT CRINGE STOP BULLYING MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[charred scarab]

why would you make a Frag build that doesn't run Shovel for Uncanny

[karmic musk]

Fake gun enthusiast

[charred scarab]

Uncanny+Skullcrusher if you're actually all-in on frags

[lucid heart]

bayonet is so funny

i love the gun attachment for the bayonet

[nimble sentinel]

I'M NOT A FAKE FUN ENTHUSIAST YOU'RE JUST JEALOUSSSSSSSSSSSS

[manic moth]

LETS GOOOOOOOOO

[frank ether]

oh I was talking about twinned blast, not your build specifically

twinned blast + smoke is troll build

[torpid fractal]

hmmm

[frank ether]

I'd change opening salvo with deadly accurate

[torpid fractal]

I imagine opening salvo only gives first bullet and not first whole burst its bonus?

[frank ether]

even if it does deadly accurate proc will outperform it by a very large margin

Its double damage on critical weakspot hits

[torpid fractal]

also is it just me or is crucian way worse than it used to be

[frank ether]

and then crucian is.... well not my choice of crit blessing for sure

[torpid fractal]

yeah

[frank ether]

Honestly the two main crit blessings are

headhunter and surgical

here is the question

[torpid fractal]

I like headhunter for this, surgical for hellbore

[frank ether]

do you want to wait and pace your shots or be agressive and chain headshots

both are good blessings, its up to your playstyle choice

[torpid fractal]

the hard decision is if it's worth swapping both blessings for that, and keeping maniac

though maniac isn't terrible

[frank ether]

maniac is great

most of the scary shit in this game are maniac

[torpid fractal]

that's a good point

I think I'll slap deadly accurate and headhunter on it

[frank ether]

I think that would be fantastic

and if you end up disliking headhunter you can always swap it to surgical

[torpid fractal]

Hadron finally right to trust I am a pleased varlet

[frank ether]

this gun will crit the entire burst if you start with a crit btw

enjoy your godroll ^^

[torpid fractal]

[frank ether]

I like to run this gun on

sharpshooter vet

but also

shouty vet

with the rending

its great

also here is a little known trick

your special is a basic bash, but if you hold down the button

it will morph into a more powerful bash

[torpid fractal]

😮

TIL

[frank ether]

It also seems to have a weakspot multiplier lol

bashed a dog to death with it a few times

[torpid fractal]

jesus this thing is a monster

[river wraith]

im really happy i bought that targeting helm it goes so well with the new cosmetics

[frank ether]

its him

its john darktide

[river wraith]

the only character i have played until the recent class overhaul update is my guardsman john since day one

[dusk idol]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-christ-thats-jason-bourne-shocked-surprised-shookt-gif-16976111

[umbral scaffold]

melk just sold me a power cycler 4

[torpid fractal]

eyyyy

cycler 4 is great

this is serving me stupendously well

just consumes hoards

[hollow ibex]

PC4 does not exist

this image is photoshopped

[karmic musk]

It does

[wicked niche]

do ya'll have a name for a team with one of every class?

maybe a flush lol?

[ocean moat]

4gryns

[atomic zephyr]

why not exe stance?

its similar to what i run already

just VoC instead of exe stance

[umbral scaffold]

which power sword goes crazy?

[midnight mortar]

The mk6 is the preferred variant.

[umbral scaffold]

what's the dump stat on mk6 power sword?

[sharp ember]

the cleave stats tbh

[whole moon]

Cleave

[sharp ember]

powered swings and blessings carry cleave

[umbral scaffold]

i see

other than power cycler

what other blessing do you get?

[sharp ember]

brutal momentum for bodycount racking

[umbral scaffold]

also what's the attack pattern for hordes and vs elites

[sharp ember]

sunder for cleaving mixed elite hordes

lights for basically everything

push attack combo for 1 target

especially crushers

[midnight mortar]

Cleave targets, mostly.

The push attack combo is Block -> energize -> push attack -> chain a light attack (this will be l4 because the mk6 has a unique combo here).

2 hit headshots crushers.

[torpid fractal]

I like rampage on my psword

since I use it for hordes mixed with elites more than anything

also I took this vraks mk3 headhunter for a spin, with these talents

it went very well

[wicked niche]

gg

whoops lmao

[whole moon]

Used to be BM>Rampage>Slaughter iirc but a lot of that ranking is down to bugs

[torpid fractal]

normally I don't like the 15 max stacks vs the passive build, but it works well with the triple shot

since that single burst can tap several weak enemies in one go and blam 9 stacks

[rancid echo]

whats the difference between the two columnus guns?

[whole moon]

Different class of weapon. Ones ab Infantry Autogun (IAG) other ones a Braced Autogun (Brauto)
There's a pinned guide on what works best for each

[vague elm]

Which of these two guns would you say is better I can add infernus to the one on the right

[flint lake]

Sunder and Power Cycler are my favorite for melee builds. Three quick slices on a crusher and then jump back for a couple headshots with the las pistol to take it down.

[torpid fractal]

yeah for crushers rampage is kinda sucky

not nothing but not great

but then I'm also using mk3, so it's even worse for em

[eternal sable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1024858134600233030/1087885820591091782/ezgif.com-gif-maker-1.gif

[flint lake]

The one on the right. 8% damage vs elites is still much much more than 10% weak point damage.

[torpid fractal]

is it just me or do infantry autoguns need better blessings in general

[placid portal]

10% weak point only affects the increased value from weakpoint xppp
100 normal 200 weakpoint hit
100 weakpoint damage modifier 10% of that is 10
So effective damage is 210 damage which is 5% boost

[placid portal]

IAGs still slap imo

[torpid fractal]

I like them but feels like they should slap harder for their ammo limitations compared to other weapons

[vague elm]

Which of the perks would you change?

[placid portal]

I mean 2.7x finesse is kinda insane

Ammo imo is very generous if not spraying into ads

Heck with proper crit build you can grind crushers

[flint lake]

I’d swap carapace for flak/maniac. +33% damage to maulers, scab ragers, and shotguners is nice.

[vague elm]

gotcha thanks!

[cyan arrow]

I rolled power cycler

lets go

[trim steppe]

Lotta high rollers in here tonight congrats gentlemen

[cyan arrow]

should I swap it out on my mk3 to an mk6 with slightly worse stats?
I heard mk6 moveset is better but idk

[midnight mortar]

Define slightly worse.

Generally speaking the mk6 is stronger than the mk3 due to its push attack combo.

[torpid fractal]

hrrrrrm, any IAG experts who can direct me on adjusting this?

[cyan arrow]

367 vs 376 mk3

[midnight mortar]

The base rating only tells so much.

[cyan arrow]

but I'm kinda shitter so I usually just do charge+light attack spam

[midnight mortar]

What matters there is stat distribution.

The mk3's horde clear relies on heavy spam.

I'm surprised you got away with lights.

[midnight mortar]

Functionally speaking those weapons' base ratings are the same.

There's no major differences in performance there.

[cyan arrow]

hmm
so switch?
do you think the mk6 would suit me better?

[midnight mortar]

The mk6's horizontals are l1 and l2.

Since you're used to using light attacks already, the mk6 would probably come more naturally.

Though you really should be horde clearing with the horizontal attacks, not the diagonals.

[cyan arrow]

true
think I'll switch the power cycler to mk6 then, thank you!

[fresh mango]

this saveable?

[midnight mortar]

Hard to tell yet. You currently need to replace 2/4.

[cyan arrow]

whoops nvm I cant switch it out
guess I'm using the mk3 until I get another power cycler

[midnight mortar]

What do you mean?

[fresh mango]

not sure if I wanna spend 1k plasteel just for a brick

[midnight mortar]

You already have tier 3 power cycler earned.

[midnight mortar]

Personally, I wouldn't want to either, but because it's braced.

[cyan arrow]

yea
I cant surrender the weapon since I took the power cycler off another power sword and stuck it on my current one

[midnight mortar]

Rather than because it's a brick or not.

[cyan arrow]

did not realize that before

[fresh mango]

wait

[midnight mortar]

Earned blessings can be reapplied an infinite number of times within the same weapon family.

You already have Power Cycler 3 in your stickerbook for power swords.

[cyan arrow]

oh
I dont really know how crafting works, mb
Last I played a lot was in jan so

[midnight mortar]

That's fine. Now you know.

[fresh mango]

forgot I had this, still need Headhunter

[cyan arrow]

also hoping for a good blessing in the brunt armory for kantral lasgun so I can replace my supression immunity on my current one

since its useless due to my perk

[atomic zephyr]

picked up my lucius 2 again cause i was bored with my inf lasgun

still goes hard as fuck

[cyan arrow]

I just rolled another tier 3 power cycler

[atomic zephyr]

welcome to darktide crafting

[cyan arrow]

oh
but my plasteel is all gone
joever

[atomic zephyr]

i "only" have 300 hours and have never seen PC4

there are people with more hours and still dont have it lol

[cyan arrow]

do all tiers of brutal momentum have the same effect of ignoring enemy mass on weakspot kill?
heard BH was good on mk6 for horde clears

[midnight mortar]

Yes. And yes.

[atomic zephyr]

yes

[cyan arrow]

alr, so worth swapping out supercharged for that?

[midnight mortar]

Any BM is better than none because of that weakspot hitmass ignoring.

Yes.

[cyan arrow]

ok thank yoiu

hmm
can either take slaugherer or BM
duuno which

[midnight mortar]

BM provides more mileage in my opinion.

The ability to have 4-5 free bruiser kills that don't eat your cleave in a horde is big.

[cyan arrow]

gotcha
the slaugherer is only T2 anyway

welp, time for plasteel grind to reroll the perks

[tiny summit]

Tried out an axe without BM. Oh god wtf is that shit

[willow badger]

rate my pseudo-mp5 columnus

[fresh mango]

which powersword is best? 3 or 6?

[willow badger]

preference mostly but most ppl use ps6

[rain crane]

powersword 6 dumpstats again?

this roll pretty solid?

[hollow ibex]

if you can stand PC3 yeah

[rain crane]

i havent rolled 4 yet

might as well refine this twice?

[whole moon]

Yes

[midnight mortar]

Cleave targets.

And yeah, the blessings are serviceable.

You can use this in the interim.

[whole moon]

It's a crying shame about the blessings, perfect but 3s. It's still gonna shred but ngl while PC3 will do you really notice that extra hit from PC4

[midnight mortar]

Perks to flak/maniac/carapce/unyielding.

[rain crane]

ty

[dusk idol]

you can keep damage to elites if you want to save a modification slot

[midnight mortar]

Over 2/3 of these kills were with the mk2 Helbore bayonet.

Man this is silly.

[hollow ibex]

yeah i've stopped using PS

until i get PC4

[ancient meadow]

Oh my lord if they do not add bayonets to the kantrael lasgun in the part 2 update...

The bayonets on the helbore are great

[ebon umbra]

that is a v healthy score across the team

premade?

i haven't seen something like this in awhile 🥲

that hellbore melee kills is insane

[versed merlin]

everytime i play vraks

i want to murder myself

idk why i still try to understand this weapon

[south spindle]

Good lord there are some vegetable vet builds out there... smokes.. plasma.. and ping skill... what fuckin delinquent shit is that?

[torn moat]

It's basically a Mk12 with slightly different damage multipliers. A higher weakspot multiplier and no red dot sight.

[hybrid river]

only sus thing is the smokes

[versed merlin]

the problem is

[south spindle]

Its the combo of the three things thats weird

[versed merlin]

during hordes, its awfully painfull to pull the weapon

[torn moat]

Just like the MG12 lasgun.

[versed merlin]

no way i can carry this weapon through auric

i got so used to revolver

[hybrid river]

plasma and ping skill is the most vanilla combo possible

[torn moat]

Use a Power Sword against Hordes.

[versed merlin]

that i can simply one shot a special behind hordes, while theres a crowd around

i gave up on power swords

[midnight mortar]

Just quickplay. Everyone knew what they were doing and were good at their jobs.

[versed merlin]

spent more than 20k plasteel already trying to get power cycle

[ebon umbra]

the emperor protects

[torn moat]

I mean, that issue is true for most ranged weapons. Plasma, Revolver, Agripinaa autoguns are the only projectiles that pierce.

[versed merlin]

idk, they feel so slow to pull and their aim is so whack

[thick rose]

anyone got a gunpsyker build I can copy so I can pretend im a vet while I get more currency

[versed merlin]

really wanted to get into vraks, cause it feels pretty good landing a headshot with that weapon

but god, i cant

[torn moat]

It's good, but it requires different playstyles.

[humble nova]

ammo economy just makes it a worse mk12

[versed merlin]

might be skill issue on my part no doubt, but doesnt feel like it suits me at all

[torn moat]

Every weapon is viable (almost). But what's most important is that you enjoy playing the game.

If it doesn't work for you, don't use it. Play something you enjoy.

[humble nova]

I just started playing AIG recently and fell in love

Was swapping between a bunch of stuff to try to find something that felt good

[torn moat]

IAG's are fun. I prefer Agripinaa. Though Columnus is better dps.

[versed merlin]

columnus feels busted ngl

that thing melts

[torn moat]

Only at close range though.

[humble nova]

Yeah I said AIG because it's Agri, couldn't get into the Columnus

[versed merlin]

oh yeah

[torn moat]

It barely tickles enemies beyond 20meters.

Columnus will wreck a beast of nurgle though.

[versed merlin]

spent two entire magazines trying to kill a sniper

and i didnt kill him

[torn moat]

Agri is awesome though. Fairly accurate when burst fired. Decent damage. And it pierces multiple targets.

[humble nova]

Probably because it performs best at short range, I like a more versatile gun

[frank ether]

skill issue

snipers are made of paper 💀

[versed merlin]

maybe i was hitting some box or shit that was in front of him

cant tell

i only see red outlined enemie and shoot

sometimes i fail to realize im shooting a wall

[frank ether]

you were likely hitting cover

happens

[versed merlin]

but overall, columns feels so good

def one of my favorites

[unreal bone]

Damn bro Sire Melk got this rn

Thoughts?

Perks need replaced.. but it has Blaze Away Gets Hot!

80% charge rate is the second best charge rate for pgun also

Buy yes or no?

[torn moat]

71% charge rate is optimal for Plasma.

[unreal bone]

73

not 71

73 gives you the most damage back.

[torn moat]

But, it's still decent. As you said, just reroll the perks.

[unreal bone]

73% is #1 for pguns

BUT

#2 best is a 4 way tie between 80 72 64 and 56

So I'd say if all of those %s give you the same damage, that would mean the one that charges the fastest would be the best out of those 4

So is it worth the purchase peeps?

[flat pebble]

id pick it up and swap both perks

[unreal bone]

kk lemme grind out melk tokens lol

it's like 3200 and I have 1200

[flat pebble]

good luck lol

[unreal bone]

I'll probably just do all of the melk missions on my psyker

psyker is just too easy

Bubble Psyker with lightning spam is a cake walk.

[ebon drum]

lightning spam

yikes