veteran-class

[terse idol]

🥹

[celest vine]

It’s regurgitated shit

[karmic musk]

Bruh whoever said Lawbringer was good at horde clear is trolling, switching back to Kantrael

[terse idol]

Also fighting the mechanicus would be HELL

[glacial forum]

Their best Drip was the free PDF Armor

[gloomy kestrel]

I remember in uh....inquisitor martyr you go commune with the ships machine spirit and it's doing stuff on it's own and the techpriest with you is like "it's not AI i swear"

[slow garden]

I just want to be able to change the voice and voicelines

[dusk idol]

it’s not really on the level of AI yet though, most “machine spirits” aren’t sentient

[terse idol]

Yeah

[half ginkgo]

when it was?

[terse idol]

One of the many times the imperium let's things go

[gaunt hinge]

latrine machine spirit

[hard cave]

MOOOOORE DRIP

[terse idol]

Because its useful and too much of a hassle to call it out

[dusk idol]

but praying to them does make bolter go bolting better

[terse idol]

True

[north spoke]

I NEED MORE BLUE DRIP!!

[terse idol]

Purity seals on your bolter blessed by a tech priest makes your bullets go better

That's a fact

[glacial forum]

This is just the best armor set to me as I can actually look like a proper Imperial Guardsmen

[terse idol]

Purity seals on your armour make your armour tougher

[dusk idol]

Ork red go fast type energy honestly

[glacial forum]

I hate how destroyed everything else looks

[north spoke]

Hell yeah!

[gloomy kestrel]

as long as the tech junkies assure the people in charge it's totally not AI and just the machine spirit, that's good enough for the administratum

[hard cave]

HIVE DEFENDER MY BELOVED

[glacial forum]

Tho granted all white with helmet aint bad

[north spoke]

Can you see if there's other blue pants that match the torso?

[dusk idol]

this armour looks like bird poop

[glacial forum]

Theres not far as IK

[hard cave]

I LOVE IT

[untold moth]

What exactly do smoke grenades do

[north spoke]

Please! I need to know!!

[dusk idol]

they smoke

[celest vine]

Theyres still using the set in the fucking trailers

[glacial forum]

They make it harder to see

[calm prairie]

we have that helmet and pants

[untold moth]

What does that do though? Does it prevent snipers?

[calm prairie]

just the chest piece we need

[dusk idol]

no

[glacial forum]

tbh to a degree I fuck with the garrison cap

[celest vine]

Its just rhe pants actually

[gloomy kestrel]

they know we want that set really bad so I'm expecting them to like put it in the season pass or like some sort of special DLC pack later.

[untold moth]

How do smokes interact with enemies?

[celest vine]

The helmet in game isnt a flak helmet

[glacial forum]

Theres nothing in THAT BLUE, but technically one pair of pants matches the undershirt of the armor

[dusk idol]

smokes inhibit shooters/ranged from firing accurately (or at all) into your smoke radius

[hard cave]

I love this

[north spoke]

Oooo can you show?

[dusk idol]

this does not include snipers

[gloomy kestrel]

I feel like smoke should also reduce las damage taken but that may be hard to program

[glacial forum]

If it just highlighted enemies caught in it

it'd be 100000% more useful

[gloomy kestrel]

that'd be a fun functionality to add

[glacial forum]

Kinda like how Executioners STance Works

[dusk idol]

if it just stopped gunners and snipers from actually shooting

[glacial forum]

Enemies inside get less vision - and take more damage

[gloomy kestrel]

ooh arbites armor

[dusk idol]

if they made it a kind of thermal smoke that blinded enemies using thermals

[glacial forum]

The moment they add that armor, is the moment I goon

[terse idol]

it needs to maybeee stop fire from spreading

[calm prairie]

woah

[hard cave]

I'm already gooning after they released the pdf armor

I always want to get the drip of the hive defenders

[glacial forum]

And its these pants that match the undershirt

[north spoke]

Ahh damn

Still looks nice tho

[gloomy kestrel]

I'd kill for some solar auxilla armor https://preview.redd.it/solar-auxilia-cosmetic-options-for-veteran-class-v0-1epb4ofove5a1.jpg?width=627&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b40d7acc0fa75a693f32911cea897bc1553aaedf

[hard cave]

fuck being a guardsman, id rather be apart of the planetary defense force

[celest vine]

Its not PDF armor

Its guardsmen flak armor

[hard cave]

ITS CLOSE ENOUGH

[glacial forum]

Give me Horus Heresy Imperial Army Armor

[celest vine]

There isnt any PdF armor in game at all

[spark helm]

Would rather have nothing to do with the imperium period.

[celest vine]

Its all regular Militarum flak armor

[glacial forum]

The 21st Moebian is an Imperial Guard Regiment that was on Atoma Prime for a resupply run and just so happened to get caught in the fight.

[dusk idol]

why can’t my vet be an absolute baddie

look at this

[spark helm]

I like the coloring.

[glacial forum]

WHy cant my Zealot just be a Repenta

[celest vine]

Different helmets

[candid bridge]

Only ugly people exist in 40k

[gloomy kestrel]

ngl, I really like the scab helmets

[calm prairie]

ya but the one in the picture is the rebreather one we already have if you look closer

[upper elk]

when

[calm prairie]

it doesnt have the goggles like this one

[dusk idol]

trillions of uggos 😭

[spark helm]

I guess? Rannick is decent looking. Zola aight. Multiple face setups really not at all ugly. At least not to me.

[celest vine]

Heavy flak is in game

[quaint valve]

"Quality of Life: among several tweaks and fixes brought to the game, we have adjusted the Veteran talent tree based on player feedback to make the keystones quicker to reach" hype?

[topaz lance]

Tanith set when? (never)

[celest vine]

Pretty sure it was a drop like 6 months ago

[vital saddle]

anyone else get bugged by the the large boots on most of vets outfits

[dusk idol]

apprehensive

[gloomy kestrel]

hope for the best, prepare for the worst

[dusk idol]

yes

[quaint valve]

Amen

[calm prairie]

"we decided to get rid of all those toughness nodes in the way of you reaching your keystone!"

[celest vine]

Its carapace plate

[gloomy kestrel]

hype is the first step on the road to disappointment

[glacial forum]

In the 41st Millenia, all the attractive people are gone.. or Eldar.. Humanity has to procreate with people that have a higher inbreeding perchentage than the fvking habsburgs...

[spark helm]

Was going to say.

[celest vine]

Not the +5 reload speed

[spark helm]

The Eldar right there.

[vital saddle]

Rather see more boots like these

[terse idol]

Felinds rule

[spark helm]

If you're into them, the genestealers got some monster fuck candidates.

Not genestealers

Oops

[celest vine]

I dont mind them, its carapace armor after all

[dusk idol]

vore moment

[terse idol]

Oooooh Sgt armour

[spark helm]

Tyrannids

[terse idol]

[hard cave]

Enforcer armor when

[glacial forum]

My favorite enemy, as a female Vet', is the Chaos Spawn for no particular reason.

[vital saddle]

or atleast make it so there is 4 armor slots rather than 3 so u can take boots from other sets

[celest vine]

Its already in game

[dusk idol]

[late ledge]

i love ed edd n eddy sound effects, works perfecetly with my vet

[spark helm]

If that's your jam. There you go.

Long tongue, solid body, versatile digits.

[hard cave]

based

[spark helm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vital saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-just-stop-please-stop-stop-it-meme-gif-26307878

[spark helm]

I've done nothing wrong.

[hard cave]

YOOOO

[dusk idol]

yeah, sick

[celest vine]

Put more gear in the commissary

[dusk idol]

the only thing that could make this better was if the eyes glowed red all space marine like

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-space-marine-helmet-warhammer-40k-space-marine-astartes-spacem-arine-armor-gif-9266730404172402530

like that

[sage agate]

this is gon be real drippy

[queen fox]

when you take that heretical za

[spark helm]

Prefer a neon green or dirty yellow

[celest vine]

Oh cool

If youre using Youtube on mobile, swap to shorts and back to skip all ads instantly

[junior needle]

I was waiting the whole time for the SUBALUWA

[late ledge]

i thought about adding it, but i wasnt sure where

[spark helm]

Mostly interested in a mobile ad blocker or something. Fuck the ad algos.

[vital saddle]

isnt youtube getting in trouble with the way they do ads now

[spark helm]

I wouldn't know

Only so much or my awareness of YouTube is centered around more specific things.

[candid bridge]

Firefox focus mobile browser has one built in

[spark helm]

It wouldn't surprise me if they were getting messed with for fucking around on anti-trust shit I guess.

[acoustic bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-cowboy-gun-spinning-gif-16232617

[spark helm]

Google been getting those for years last I checked.

[vital saddle]

imagine being in 2023 and still not having a platform that can play ads and the video at the same time

[spark helm]

Ye olde fed "lawsuit" (its just a bribe deal hearing tbh in my mind)

[vital saddle]

"cough" youtube

[spark helm]

I mean, I'm more concerned about more than the ad shit

[frank ether]

fandom wiki does that autoplay ad thing and its ridicilous

[spark helm]

Which is part of the problem

[spark helm]

I only recently learned more about Fandom. Damn. Was worse than I thought again lmao

[frank ether]

always hated it

it finally getting the bad rep it deserves

malware tier platform

[spark helm]

Was annoyed by it but didn't know the legit issues Fandom posed in the first place.

[azure zephyr]

Got tired of having my kills stolen and games going south so I went with support/partial meelee focus.

I think my drip is pretty solid

[celest vine]

The comments on the trailer are greaf

[muted knot]

What's that helmet ? I feel like that shouldn't be veteran should it ?

[spark helm]

YouTube and Google by extension are guilty of haneous shit. The majority of which is spearheaded by its executives and genuinely fucked up people down the ladder. Not a good company. Period. No major corporate or just about any is about anything that isn't a bottom line regardless of the harm that bottom line requires.

No need to care when you can just go to some luxury fuckhole.

[azure zephyr]

That's the Moebian 21st helmet, did you play on pc before November?

[muted knot]

That's a scary thought

[north spoke]

Ooo show us more!

[muted knot]

Oh wait I am the stupid

I thought that's a helmet on top

It's your hair

Or like a cowl

[spark helm]

I'm just saying that warhammer needs more pro wrestling fuckery

[azure zephyr]

Thanks! I'll probably post my zealot im yhe zealot one unless we goot special channels to show drip

[north spoke]

We do
#darktide-driptide

[azure zephyr]

God I wish I had trailer helmet, but this was good enough.

[azure zephyr]

Ah well time to show off there

[spark helm]

I still stand by my idea for an ogryn modifier to the charge: goes into a slam maneuver for certain classes of enemies with a press of a button and direction input.

I don't play a lot of fighting games. I've never had a history of playing them throughout childhood if I ever got access

[muted knot]

The mask+ helmet ?

[azure zephyr]

yeye

[spark helm]

Let me pick up a mauler and use them as a temporary battering ram for extra damage.

[azure zephyr]

The whole combo seen on the trailer veteran

[spark helm]

Or just grab a grunt and throw them through a crowd.

[azure zephyr]

The helmet and gas mask you get from tier 3 penance just kinda... looks bad tbh

[half ginkgo]

god, Hadron is so irritating sometimes - Shovel? Yeah, sure, here you go Thunderstrike III as usual, Csword? Got u fam, Shred III as standard

[wet moon]

eehhh? worth or no?

[half ginkgo]

literally every damn shovel i rolled this week is thuderstrike 3 on blue

[wet moon]

im sorry HOW did you get this

[soft solstice]

I don’t know how important stopping power is but it’s otherwise looks sick

[azure zephyr]

Do you like laying down a hail of bullets over precise laser shots?

If so then use it

[wet moon]

id rather use a columnus for that tbh

[celest vine]

Mods revealed it

[wet moon]

which mods

[azure zephyr]

I can't say for particular but this model of autogun is pretty neat

[celest vine]

Theres a reason fatshark got rid of it

[half ginkgo]

good, but its graia and not columnus and stopping is quite a good chunk of dmg

[azure zephyr]

I used it on my zealot

[celest vine]

It was taken down

[wet moon]

https://tenor.com/view/itsover-wojack-gif-4367840179675491690

kms

[celest vine]

The mod showed all locked items

Including unreleased

[wet moon]

do you have the file...

[soft solstice]

Graia is the easier to control ADS one if I remember right

[celest vine]

No

[wet moon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/735819155608961044/1073533020524511252/rayangosling.gif

[soft solstice]

The other two are more bullet hoses, I mean they’re all are but that one is a bit less so

[half ginkgo]

was there anything spicy?

[wet moon]

please tell me tempestus scions was in there

please i beg you

[junior needle]

[celest vine]

The backpack was found

[soft solstice]

A new shovel sounds cool but I’m not sure what would be different about it. Maybe strike down heavies and more vanguard normals?

[junior needle]

Unfortunate that it dumped stopping power. That'll cost you a bit against various armor types.

[vital saddle]

really loving this new feature of infinte loading screens

[soft solstice]

They could change the base stats it gets but losing out on penetration would take away one of the nicer things about the shovel, and replacing defense would mean losing out on the nice bonuses to sprinting and the 6th dodge

[wet moon]

i have a crit heavy stealth build as it is but i think ill stick with my columnus

[junior needle]

It does have the most dps

[vital saddle]

shovel has 2 stats that do the same thing u know that right

[wet moon]

hoping for a bloodborne style weapon with two diff movesets. sweeping horde clear on unfolded, strikedown armour piercing club folded

[frank ether]

what will the new shovel even do

[spark helm]

I'd like a weapon with the combo variety of halberds in vt2

[wet moon]

hoping it's something like this

[terse idol]

I'm theorizing they'll use the same profile as Pickaxr from V2, would he very good against crushers and monstrosities

[soft solstice]

I guess folding being a style change as the special rather than the stagger would help make it really different, I always wanted a style switch weapon

[urban steppe]

its reminds someone from other game but cant remember who

[spark helm]

I want a spear for zealot

Power spear or something idc

Polearm

[frank ether]

wouldnt mind more anti-carapace choices

[wet moon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-staring-meow-meow-asyalittlecat-big-eyes-gif-26404220

YESSSSSSSSS

[soft solstice]

I want a force spear for psyker, it’s pretty much the only melee weapon I want

[wet moon]

thatd be so cool

[celest vine]

These are all very old screenshots too

[spark helm]

I change my mind. That one

[celest vine]

2-3 months old

[soft solstice]

Everything else I would want are guns

[atomic zephyr]

no longlas

:(

[wet moon]

sdid they uncover any armour

[terse shell]

I want a pair of leather gloves and more psychic options tbh

[spark helm]

Power daggers. Idc gimme

[urban steppe]

its a mod or what ? how ?

[spark helm]

Give me my shade back

[terse shell]

Screw weapons, psyker only need their freaky powers

[wet moon]

longlas wouldnt even WORK. no sightline in this game justifies it

[celest vine]

Was a mod, mod got deleted

[spark helm]

Wep psyker cooler. Full stop.

[ocean idol]

Should i switch flak/

[urban steppe]

gib me that mod if you have files

[celest vine]

Its off nexus now

[urban steppe]

but you dont have zip ?

[terse shell]

Cringe take, watch astartes

[celest vine]

No

[soft solstice]

Give multiple versions, one has the special blast when you hit an enemy that’s an AOE like a voidstrike blast, other would be summoning a bunch of force spear when you stab the spear

[celest vine]

New PC

[spark helm]

Don't care. I like what I like. Wh is corny anyway

[urban steppe]

you can get it free lol , its a free

[spark helm]

A force flourish and parry would be fun for me.

[soft solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/million-stabs-gif-23451755

[celest vine]

No as in i dont have the mod and the mod doesnt exist anymore

[ocean idol]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-wake-up-dog-pet-poke-gif-17835661

[spark helm]

Fuck it, full send, give me sword beam

[celest vine]

From what I can tell the devs got it taken down

[soft solstice]

Spear was my favorite elf weapon and I feel like we don’t quite have that

[spark helm]

Ogryn can have it I don't care lmao

[atomic zephyr]

i cant mod my client (geforce now) so its my only chance at a scoped gun
also, when have short sightlines ever stopped video game snipers

[celest vine]

Give ogryn lascannon

[spark helm]

Excuse me...

What's that

[atomic zephyr]

also, some of the wider areas would DEFINITELY be nicer with a longlas

[celest vine]

Yes

[soft solstice]

A psyker melee that shoots a piercing laser beam would be cool, like that one snake boss weapon in Elden ring

[spark helm]

Good.

[frank ether]

gamers putting in scopes meanwhile I'm making it so ads and hipfire have the same zoom

big FoV

[urban steppe]

do i need to take this hm

[wet moon]

short sightlines were okay in other games bc the ADS time is short w an ACOG. with the scopes wed get for a LONGLAS it'd be agonizingly slow

[soft solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-cheese-serpent-elden-ring-gif-25277668

[spark helm]

Las smg

Give me

[frank ether]

you might aswell grab it and leave it in a corner

[wet moon]

:((((((

[soft solstice]

That’s pretty much the recon las thou

[spark helm]

Less cool but funng

[frank ether]

in case chaxe gets a buff or something

[atomic zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-quickscope-load-lockedandloaded-bullet-gif-5359345

[wet moon]

MW2 is a special case

[spark helm]

I said. What. I said.

[soft solstice]

But I would like a light las pistol, e en though it’ll probably be worst than the heavy las pistol

[spark helm]

^

[urban steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/copy-that-scott-forrester-fbi-international-i-get-that-roger-that-gif-26087596

[celest vine]

The ogryn needs a dodge ram

[ocean idol]

?

[spark helm]

Need some fucking power gauntlets.

[atomic zephyr]

ok the only real reason i want a longlas is so i can make an actual sniping build, not just use a DMR

[frank ether]

rework kantrael las IV so its a full auto cqc variant

[spark helm]

Power cestus

Power elbow caps.

Las knuckles

[frank ether]

everyone already uses it ''full auto'' with the mod anyways

[midnight mortar]

Are flak enemies giving you trouble or not? Do you want to 1 tap headshot dreg gunners?

[spark helm]

Fuck it, Spiderman. Put Spiderman in the game.

All of the spiders

Just put spiders in the game actually.

[frank ether]

always good idea to check the shop and grab high stat rolls whenever you can

[spark helm]

Scrap darktide, remake the game, only play as spiders in a forest

There done. Fuck the project.

[urban steppe]

at list i can play with a mod

[glacial forum]

havent used the chain axe in awhile

[frank ether]

Its... not good

rly bad animations

[urban steppe]

mb in future they will fix

[wet moon]

wait was this with the fashion randomizer mod?>

[urban steppe]

and what i know its plays from a block than attack

[frank ether]

zealot chat told me its getting a new variant so maybe they'll rebalance the existing one.

[urban steppe]

i mean hold a block and than attack

[ocean idol]

That's the thing, it does not seem to hit any B P

[frank ether]

Yes its very push attack focused for cleaves

but its just... not very good

even when you play to its strengths

the basic lights being rev and locking your camera is too much

[urban steppe]

ill just save it in a coner for a long time

[frank ether]

yeah thats the idea

[urban steppe]

if im not wrong , in future also possible to get 2 handed chain axe

so mb its will be fixed

[radiant sedge]

At least the new pants look kinda decent

[wet moon]

uh

right..

wouldve gone with the prosthetic leg pants personally but u do u

[spark helm]

Those pants are cool

I don't wear em for the character head canon: she hates wearing the convict shit and hates the uniform

[dapper delta]

Which one should I get

[sage agate]

sad damage on the chainsword

[unreal bone]

Maaan I can’t believe they gave Xbox players the pc pack also 😔

Console gonna get them aquilas and the pack

[dapper delta]

They did?

[unreal bone]

Yep

[radiant sedge]

good for them, free shit for everyone is always good

[eternal venture]

https://i.gyazo.com/d8183dc29ebc7affc85abe21777c7295.png

That ammo though

[urban steppe]

non of them , dmg too low on chain sword and that shotgun is a sh*t

[dapper delta]

Ight

[dapper delta]

Well I’m kinda glad because I started playing on pc a few days ago but missed it

But I’ve been playing on Xbox for a while

[frank ether]

dont matter

u got shock trooper

[eternal venture]

Yeah I'm more worried about the perks at this point

https://i.gyazo.com/9fdc70d94f3c884e9885da1f8d1b5400.png

pray for surgical on next roll

gotta go hunt for more plasteel after work tho

[dapper delta]

@unreal bone where do I find it on Xbox?

[frank ether]

good luck

I bricked like 10 helbore 3's I think

before getting a good one

[unreal bone]

You needed game pass

[dapper delta]

I do have game pass

[celest vine]

No

[dapper delta]

Bruhhhhhh

[dapper delta]

Please tell me this is in the actual game

[flat pebble]

well, the legs are

[tender bramble]

[mint roost]

Just got this. I can exchange Hit& Run for DumDum V3 or Deathspitter IV, and/or 1-2 perks (which I think are pretty useless). Suggestions?

[unreal bone]

If you logged on pc before the 17th and you have game pass on your account

You got it

[mellow adder]

Is the chainaxe good? I've never used it before and only have been using the chainsword

[tame lichen]

Great we got another re skin

Is the Hollow shemagh head peice bugged

[junior needle]

It's currently big shit

There's a reason nobody uses it or recommends it

[mellow adder]

what's the reasoning lmao

[gritty dock]

The problem with buying this type of weapon is that you only have a 2/2 chance of getting a good Perk and Blessing.
So you actually have to get 100% of the good ones, 1 perk and 1 blessing.
I much prefer to buy green weapons - there is a greater chance of finding something good.
Or a blue weapon but with a good Perk.

[mellow adder]

Just picked this up and thought I'd try my luck rolling it to see if I get lucky

[gritty dock]

See and show what you received.

[junior needle]

Short version: It's bad.

Long version: Lights lock you into an animation on single enemies and don't naturally cleave, heavy attacks are pretty slow and are not good in terms of clear. You need to stack power blessings to make up for the weapons natural shortcomings only to get mediocre at best results.

[mellow adder]

ah kk!

[junior needle]

Know how chainsword special leaves you vulnerable while you dig into things? That's lights on the chainaxe

[mellow adder]

I've been wondering why it was talked about so negatively

[topaz lance]

There might be a new mark of the chainaxe in part 2

maybe that one's actually good

[junior needle]

You might as well buy well rolled ones for when (if) an actual rework pass on it comes through

[dapper delta]

Nooooooooo!

[hushed hearth]

I find that the special is great for bosses, and always stock up on high stat rolls. Never know when buffs may happen

[urban steppe]

well its just for collection

[sharp ember]

new chainaxe mark coming, perhaps a chance of redemption for the entire category to become good

[junior needle]

The special is good for bosses, but at the same time, there's plenty of other weapons that are much better at everything else and also good for bosses.

[sharp ember]

yeah thing about chain weapons is

if you want it to be a boss wrecker

you put bloodletter on them

[junior needle]

I feel like the chainweapons should have natural bleed on the special at least

[sharp ember]

but chainsword is just as good as chainaxe at bloodletting if you do multiple saws

[junior needle]

You're giving up a fair bit of horde performance for taking that

[sharp ember]

while being safer to use in general

[hardy ember]

Instead of different mark of weapons. Are we actually getting new weapon types?

[astral blade]

So who are these limited time twins

[tame lichen]

in the trailer for the new map

[astral blade]

And where can my Chainsword go to slit these limited time twins throat

[junior needle]

From the wording, not this time.

Hopes: Crushed

[hardy ember]

Yeah

[sharp ember]

i think it's still on the table

[hardy ember]

Need my melta and hotshot lasgun please

[sharp surge]

was the autopistol nerfed

[junior needle]

Big time, pinning was nerfed substantially.

[untold mulch]

Big L

No new guns for a year

[astral blade]

No new guns?

[sharp surge]

this is terrible news... 😠

[untold mulch]

Variants yes but no new new

[hardy ember]

No new weapon types BUT new variants and that’s definitely what everyone wants

[junior needle]

Yeah the autopistol is dumpster tier atm

[astral blade]

That joking me y’all want variants

[frank ether]

will the new chaxe variant available to vet

or zealot exclusive

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-spit-gif-26415294

Rather new weapons than variants

[urban steppe]

" Quality of Life: among several tweaks and fixes brought to the game, we have adjusted the Veteran talent tree based on player feedback to make the keystones quicker to reach " again reworks ?

[junior needle]

Vet has access to the current chainaxe, so I don't expect they'll make some variants exclusive when nothing else does that

[frank ether]

yeah thought so. I want some new toys to play with

specifically I want more carapace/boss killers

[junior needle]

You got a first shit rework, but what about second shit rework?

Third shit rework perhaps

[urban steppe]

i just asked if i understood this words right

so its means on part 2 will be again reworks ?

for veteran

[junior needle]

Yes

[urban steppe]

lol...

[junior needle]

More minor this time

[urban steppe]

interesting, i want to see this shit

if they will broke my plasma comissar build will be angy

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-angry-scream-screaming-rodent-gif-26214325

[astral blade]

Where grenade launcher for vet?

[urban steppe]

in dreams

[frank ether]

I wonder whats in the monkey paw for us this time

[untold mulch]

Vet is heavily lacking in the heavy shit

[frank ether]

just looking at the positive

new toys to play with

maybe potential chaxe changes

exciting

[untold mulch]

At this point the -50% ammo for vet is gonna be true

[whole moon]

What do you mean, there's the revolver AND the plasma. What more do you need?

[junior needle]

Where's the hotshot volley gun? The scab gunners have it. It's already in the game.

[frank ether]

didnt that already happen with P13

[topaz lance]

Since the shovel is getting a new version and is vet exclusive, I'm hoping they're giving all classes an exclusive weapon.

[untold mulch]

True thqt

[astral blade]

-50% ammo for vet who dumbass idea was this?

[sharp epoch]

guys is vet gonna get another nerf in the rework

[astral blade]

I fucking hope not

[hardy ember]

Vet is there just for ammo and shouting that’s it

[untold mulch]

Our perils are edged for no reasok

[untold mulch]

Is a joke of them constqntly nerfing it

[topaz lance]

What I hope they're doing with the rework is simply removing/merging/twin blasting some nodes.

[whole moon]

I dunno Cor, you might have made such an impact they've got your hellgun all ready and waiting to go.

[topaz lance]

All the tree needs really

[astral blade]

It better be a fucking joke

[junior needle]

My patience is most definitely being edged.

[untold mulch]

With them? Idfk

[frank ether]

most classes already do have many exclusive weapons

[untold mulch]

Did I just saw a furry?

[frank ether]

ogryn all unique

psyker has so many unique stuff

[gaunt hinge]

all*

[frank ether]

zealot eviscerator, hammers

vet got plasma, shovel

[crude wind]

flamer for zealot too

[untold mulch]

Ogryn everything kek

[crude wind]

Hellebore for Vet

[frank ether]

so there are already plenty exclusive stuff

[topaz lance]

Still, it would seem strange to add a new version for one class exclusive weapon imo.

[plush osprey]

they changing the skill tree again in part 2 or that just stuff form part 1?

[topaz lance]

and not for the other classes too

[frank ether]

for some weapons it makes sense to have it exclusive and outside of those cases I'm not a big fan of class exclusive stuff

[junior needle]

The empyrean is prone to showing terrible things that shouldn't exist

[topaz lance]

So my hopium is 3-4 cross-class weapons + 1 new exclusive for all classes. (new marks all of them of course)
Anyways, time will tell.

[frank ether]

maybe my helbore vet can actually afford grenade regen now lmao

but what will be in the monkey paw

surely there is a catch

[dense gyro]

question on lfg, do I just sit in a vc and hope people join?

[gaunt hinge]

eh probably just truncate the fuckin grapevine veteran bottom part of the tree

make it a bit shorter but wider

[eternal venture]

cut the passive toughness/tdr nodes

🙂

honestly I wouldn't mind that if they buffed the small passive nodes to compensate

[gaunt hinge]

0% added toughness and toughness dr on tree lets go

[eternal venture]

Also I wouldn't count on new exclusive weapons

sadly

as much as we all want them (and despite them being in the game files in one way or another)

not just because it's the cynical take, but because they can only roll out so much per patch

[frank ether]

yea my deadshot builds are not paper enough

would probably still be viable with shout and iron will

[gaunt hinge]

longlas when

play sniper duels with the scabs

[eternal venture]

at some point, maybe

[gaunt hinge]

quickscope a crusher

[eternal venture]

I play stealth helbore to compensate for the lack of a true sniper in the meantime

longlas would have to exist in a game where plasma gets a slap on the wrist, probably

just so it'd have a niche

[gaunt hinge]

smoke exe stance for funny one way smokes

[eternal venture]

give smokes a damage buff when you stand inside them ala ranger vet bardin

become the true gremlin

[vital saddle]

does anyone know if revs stack onslaught

[gaunt hinge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1171104804962046072/smoke_nade.gif?ex=657726d7&is=6564b1d7&hm=693ae03ab5f0815671cc2995871a808a0b686617f42973a0100ccabfd4d73330&

[eternal venture]

Honestly I'd be fine with smokes if they staggered/stumbled enemies who ran through them

they'd have a unique niche alongside the other two nades if they did that

[vital saddle]

i mean is suppresses any ranged unit that enters them

[eternal venture]

Does it actually suppress?

[civic knot]

Do you want brittleness blessing on rashad axe if youre building it for single target dmg?

[vital saddle]

yes

[eternal venture]

Like, smokes do stagger enemies they hit

but they tend to make ranged units run around the smoke more than anything

[gaunt hinge]

enemies just walk through it lmao nothing happens

[eternal venture]

(which is actually nice, because it makes gunners run in predictable ways)

yeah usually they just waltz through while doing nothing

[junior needle]

You don't need brittleness to have amazing single target damage with heavies. Also you want brutal/headtaker to make it functional for actually dealing with melee chaffe.

[eternal venture]

Brutal Momentum is crucial for combat axe cleaves

[vital saddle]

normal shooters run round to find a diff angle gunners just keep shooting where u were same for reapers snipers and bombers ignore it flamers and trappers and shotgunners have to be right next to u to see you

[gaunt hinge]

if youre using smokes to throw on top of ranged enemies you might as well have thrown a frag

[topaz lance]

Hm, Isn't that kinda similar to the stun grenades the zealot has?

[vital saddle]

Best case i see them doing is making it so melee units dont blindly walk into smoke

[terse idol]

I mean that will break it imo

[gaunt hinge]

it does make you immune to dogs since they wont path inside it

[vital saddle]

and walk round

[terse idol]

Your best bet is to either throw the smoke in front of a wide array of shooters or at your feet with your team

[vital saddle]

but im fine with how smokes are atm

[terse idol]

I'm.... conflicted

[vital saddle]

my only gripe with em is that u only get 3 smokes

[frank ether]

please

[terse idol]

I keep hearing conflicted reports of snipers shooting into smoke

[frank ether]

its enough grief as is

[terse idol]

Its not grief

Smmmhhh

[gaunt hinge]

when are you going to use more than three smokes and not have regenerated them back when you need more

[vital saddle]

snipers 100% ignore smoke it isnt a conflict its fact

[topaz lance]

Here's an idea: It's not smoke, it's an antiseptic mist no corrupted enemy can walk through

[vital saddle]

same for bombers

[terse idol]

Yeah and my small anecdotal evidence snipers just move the lasers away

But yall are probably right

[terse idol]

Its old spice body spray™️

[untold mulch]

Is just thick deodorant

[vital saddle]

been using smokes a fair bit lately cuz its either that or i use fully buffed shredder nades 😄

[topaz lance]

That would be toxic to half of the fanbase too though

[terse idol]

[topaz lance]

huehue

[untold mulch]

I had a smoke user yesterday

[grave cargo]

Are they going to fix the audio bugs anytime soon

[untold mulch]

Mf threw smokes and I was like

[terse idol]

Honestly I always take grenade upgrades

[untold mulch]

Well, there goes my firing position lmao

[grave cargo]

Getting jumped by a silent burster through bulwarks is probably the least fun way to die

[untold mulch]

change to melee

[terse idol]

Krak won't kill crushers with 1 if you don't upgrade iirc

[terse idol]

Well this is why you have to throw it at your feet

Allies inside the smoke aren't blinded

[vital saddle]

it still kills without it if u take the dmg to ogryn talent

[terse idol]

It really depends

Thats mooore expensive

But

A good point

[misty delta]

❌ taking ex stance for dmg
✅ taking ex stance to make smokes useable

[topaz lance]

More points to spend on vet tree probably means taking tinkerer more often

[terse idol]

Maybe I can save a point...

[vital saddle]

taking neither and using infiltrate 😄

[spark helm]

It at least guarantees carapace you stick don't have a chance

[terse idol]

Using infiltrate to drop hordes of poxwalkers on your psyker

[gaunt hinge]

stick it to a bomber, show em whos boss

[vital saddle]

use it to revive that solo zealot on his own

dying like a clown

wee woo ambulance

[spark helm]

Using that chance to show off and regroup.

[terse idol]

[topaz lance]

Taking exe stance so I have a second key to switch to my ranged weapon

[limber lance]

Was there an update today?

[untold mulch]

He deserved it

I an tired of hearing the Lex Atoma

[spark helm]

That's clutch though

Well when you have ammo

[vital saddle]

Pretty much what i've been running with smokes that and using voc as well

[spark helm]

Quick swap crits on the shotties is fun

Whichever one that's not the slug.

[terse idol]

The survivalist tax

I'm gonna be real

[vital saddle]

indeed

[terse idol]

weapon spec and infil is really good

and I'd rather save myself points and let some other vet take surv then spend 4 extra points

[vital saddle]

but i cant bring myself to not take survivalist

[spark helm]

You will believe.

[vital saddle]

just feel to troll to not have it

[terse idol]

I'm telling ya, they're gonna modify it

[spark helm]

Believe in yourself

[terse idol]

I mean the movement ain't bad

Fire team is eh

[topaz lance]

Oh shit, more points mean that I may be able to run exe stance with the right keystone after all.
I couldn't make it work before

But I want it

for shotguns

[vital saddle]

but i mean it is a smoke nade build so its already pretty troll anyway

[terse idol]

What noooo

[vital saddle]

whats a survialist tax anyway 😄

[terse idol]

Oh

[neon briar]

when your team is out of ammo and fighting over the one ammo tin you found im sure theyll be grateful that you were able to save 2 points and make a more optimized build by not taking survivalist

[vital saddle]

xD

[terse idol]

Just that it's so good every vet is obligated to take it

Hence the tax

But trust me, just hit the weapon spec keystone and infil

[gaunt hinge]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1GGZHy7cgC8WN8/d1337fdnY4pQ?invite=cr-MSxmRnEsNjY5MDkzMzMs

[terse idol]

Damn

[spark helm]

it's good

[terse idol]

Guess I don't need the upgrade

[vital saddle]

Same tax regardless anyway with voc smokes

not that it matters anyway

[spark helm]

Voc smokes...

Huh.

[terse idol]

Yeah no, I personally wouldn't take smokes with VOC

Shredder or krak

That is waaayyy too expanive

[vital saddle]

aint saying its a viable build just saying ive been testing them

[spark helm]

Imma do that one.

[terse idol]

And you want to take "Take it down" because it's really good

Oh oh okay

[vital saddle]

🙂

[civic knot]

What should i change here? thunderous blessing or unarmored to flak?

[terse idol]

I too wanted smokes on my VOC

But urghhhh

I neeed survivalist 🥹

Plasmagun, IAG, Revolver

[spark helm]

I'm currently running exe surv, krak and taking the toughness on weakspot shit

Las gun buff gaming. It's redundant but I don't care.

[vital saddle]

u mean bring it down right?

[terse idol]

Yeah

The finger point

[junior needle]

You'll want headtaker on the blessing

[spark helm]

I wish competitive urge procced more often.

[terse idol]

Infinite expensive if you even think about trying to take smoke + survivalist

[vital saddle]

only reason to take krak nade tinkerer is for monster dmg to counter the dmg nerf to explosive

[terse idol]

I kinda wished it didn't exist

Hate rng

[spark helm]

I really don't know why it's kind of a rarity even after maelstrom density.

[terse idol]

Hate minimal increase

[civic knot]

is it that important? dont i usually just hit flak enemies with this thing? i mean it already one shots trash enemies right? consider what im saying

[spark helm]

Most of this game is steered rng

[charred scarab]

keep unarmored iirc

[flat pebble]

you want headtaker

[civic knot]

reply to what im saying

[vital saddle]

anyone know if covering fire works on nades?

[spark helm]

To the point where you become the dealer in the house.

[flat pebble]

or limbsplitter for bayonet shenanigans!

[terse idol]

Like to be fair most of the builds bar-Gunogrn don't have much RNG
Even Bleed charge zealot you can control the RNG by manipulating when you get bleed

[spark helm]

I see you

[flat pebble]

the thing is you’re not oneshotting most things in a mixed horde comes around unless you have headtaker

[terse idol]

I just think competitive urge stiinky

[civic knot]

k

[spark helm]

Maybe if it was cranked to like...3.4 or some shit idk

Lmao

When not even smooth high mob clears pops it, idk

Only time when I really do just drop a talent.

I'll use double nades

That was a lie. I haven't.

[flat pebble]

wheeze

[spark helm]

I'll lie again.

[junior needle]

Power is damage/stagger/cleave on everything you hit, not just flak. Also it depends on the enemies, the vast majority of melee enemies are unarmored/flak and bruisers are your biggest barrier to horde clear due to resisting one shot headshots with their high hp.

Unfortunately you can only get headtaker or flak where ideally you'd want both depending on your supplemental melee damage from the tree.

[vital saddle]

The build u run hoping the devs buff twinned nade again

[astral blade]

Just had a high intensity shock troop gauntlet a bloody lovely way to start the day

First mission of the day as well it was

On damnation this was as well

[atomic zephyr]

this is what I run it’s hilarious

[vital saddle]

it do be fun when u proc twinned nade 4 times in a row

just really dont know if grenades count as ranged killing when it comes to the covering fire talent

[vivid cedar]

flak/maniac?

[tall torrent]

u can

[tall torrent]

check if this hits 1 shot kill on both bruiser types with melee related dmg talents

[unreal bone]

Man

Chainsword really is the best melee.

[grave cargo]

It's strong if you spec into melee

If you don't it's a little meh

[jaunty birch]

Idk shovel p damn good too

[jolly cave]

Kind of wish it had a more horizontal moveset like the shovel

or powerswords

[steel quarry]

what autogun/infantry gun/build can i use that does decently ok against carapace? ive been much preferring faster firing guns as vet but still pretty new so im not sure what needs to be be done to crack armor with the autoguns

[unreal bone]

I'm not specced into melee.

It's still very good.

[grave cargo]

It's really not lmfao

[vital saddle]

2 reving crushers xD

[grave cargo]

I mean it's fine for normal Damnation

[jaunty birch]

Take the brittleness talents in the far right tree, the continous shots one

[unreal bone]

The only tree ability I got that benefits melee is the 10% rending to all weapons

[jaunty birch]

Helps with pen, works well with the columnus auto

[unreal bone]

Other than that I'm running a Veteran Sergeant build with mostly left and middle tree

[warm idol]

since they said among others I wonder what other variants of weapons we will get

[grave cargo]

It just starts to struggle on hi int and esp gauntlet because its clear speed without melee perks and base cleave isn't great

[unreal bone]

Chainsword still slaps in Auric Damnation

[steel quarry]

would i be going for the 10% rending as well?

[vital saddle]

u can go for both if u want to

[jaunty birch]

Thinkin chaxe since its in the pic

[warm idol]

since the image has a chaxe and shovel and revolver have been confirmed by word

[unreal bone]

I haven't even fixed mine up yet

[warm idol]

maybe plasma and bolter too

[unreal bone]

I'm just using what hadron gave me still

[tall torrent]

onslaight + rending strikes + 20% ogryn/monstrosity dmg allows u to kill crushers decently fast

[jaunty birch]

Eh, I dont personally and do just fine without it

[warm idol]

hoping for a more versatile lightweight plasma/bolter

[vital saddle]

Can nearly kill em in a single rev if i shoot 16 times then rev him

[warm idol]

since iirc the current variants are considered "medium"

[tall torrent]

2-handed chain axe for zealot
foldable shovel for veteran
new single action revolver (fanning technique)

[unreal bone]

So close to being perfect..

[tall torrent]

not sure abt others

[unreal bone]

74% charge rate 😢

[jaunty birch]

2h is copium for sure

Tho I want that too

[warm idol]

the charge rate is fine lol

the dmg is the yikes part

[vital saddle]

🙂

[unreal bone]

Nah bro

Charge rate affects damage.

And yeah the damage is low

[tall torrent]

I think it's been datamined that it looks like a halberd style weapon but has chain axe

[unreal bone]

that's why i said almost perfect.

[vital saddle]

isnt it like 71% is best

[unreal bone]

Will they ever fix plasma guns.

73% is the best

that one in my shop is 74

[vital saddle]

73% best 80% second best

right

[unreal bone]

Second best is like a 3 or 4 way tie

[warm idol]

wasnt there a datamined 2 handed psword too

but they said variants

not completely new guns

[unreal bone]

80 72 64 and 56 are all second best charge rates

[warm idol]

so I doubt thats coming till feb or something

[vital saddle]

happy with my plasma eitherway 🙂

[jaunty birch]

Dont think we are gettin new weapons or they would have said that

[tall torrent]

am fine with more variants as long as they offer unique stuff

[topaz lance]

Yeah don't expect "new" weapons

There's gonna be a dlc in the first half of 2024 probably

[unreal bone]

I expect a new plasma gun tbh.

[jaunty birch]

Thinking a new chaxe variation

[unreal bone]

Or a new bolter

[tall torrent]

a single action revolver with fanning technique for sure would play very different from current revolver

[warm idol]

ideally I want less non ogryn/psyker exclusives (since theirs make sense)

[unreal bone]

Red plasma gun? 😏

[junior needle]

All autoguns have naturally shit carapace damage so your choice is largely superfluous and your real ability to deal with them is down to the tree.

[warm idol]

like why cant I use a flamer as vet

thats dumb as hell

[tall torrent]

vet with no range = bad vet

[topaz lance]

Because purge the heretic etc.

[tall torrent]

ig

[vital saddle]

that or just use a strong melee that just ignores carapace existence 😄

[unreal bone]

I fully expect either every class to get a new unique mark of a gun exclusive to them.

[jaunty birch]

The brittleness perk does help tons with autoguns vs carapace. Can 1 clip crushers with a columnus

[unreal bone]

Or a new bolter mark

[warm idol]

that makes no sense

I swear if they add a melta

and make it zealot exclusive

that would be a whole new level of stupid

[topaz lance]

Smells like heresy.

[tall torrent]

it's more because they designed vet as this ranged problem solver and flamer is just no range

[topaz lance]

Yeah, this seems likely

[jaunty birch]

They def adding a melta at some point, and dont think they doin that since melta is used heavily in the guard

[warm idol]

so are flamers

[unreal bone]

It's either that or it's just a new mark of guns that only have one mark like bolter, plasma, flamer

[tall torrent]

also @warm idol I remembered u were asking for that laspistol skin

[junior needle]

You mean onslaught? Very much so, but that's a talent and not on the guns

[warm idol]

thats neat

[topaz lance]

Probably a mixture of that and "flavor/flair". Clsses need to be distinct I guess.

[jaunty birch]

Guard has the heavier variant with the pack attachment

[vital saddle]

as fun as it would be to be vet using a flamer i dont really see it happening

[warm idol]

they are already distinct via looks (even tho I think a lot of zealot cosmetics fit vet) and talents

[jaunty birch]

For blessing I would go with dum dum and raking fire

[topaz lance]

Make flamer stagger again please.

[warm idol]

like I get evisicrator considering its a church weapon

[vital saddle]

as it would just invalidate zealots flamer in every way and cause groups to suffer

in terms of special killing / shooter

[unreal bone]

I feel like either way we're gonna get a new plasma or bolter mark next update

[jaunty birch]

Dont see that personally

[vital saddle]

bolter booo

[unreal bone]

What are the other options? Another kantrael? Another Accatran?

[warm idol]

I hope they eventually add backpack weapons that include heavier a heavier flamer

[jaunty birch]

Not sure how they would alter plasma or bolter with a new mark

[warm idol]

or plasma

[tall torrent]

we're getting a new shovel for vet (folding shovel)

[unreal bone]

They just released two shotgun marks not too long ago also

[warm idol]

or hellgun

[topaz lance]

Funniest thing would be if they throw a mega curveball and the new bolter mark is the bolt pistol (ain't gonna happen though).

[warm idol]

thats easy

[unreal bone]

The only logical choices are bolter, flamer, plasma

[warm idol]

just make it a lighter/heavier variant

[vital saddle]

biggest curveball would be adding dual wielding of pistols with melee

[warm idol]

like all the other guns have

[warm idol]

god please

[unreal bone]

I mean wait

there could be a shredder autopistol mark

there is only one of those also.

[warm idol]

it would be perfect for a commissar/sergeant build

[tall torrent]

Give us a bolt pistol as a variant of Boltgun

[unreal bone]

I feel like the new marks coming out are going to be weapons that have only one variant

[jaunty birch]

I get that I just dont see them takin the time to add marks to weapons that imo dont need them. Plenty of other weapons that doo and flamer, bolter and plasma aint them

[vital saddle]

would make weapon specialist hella broken tho

[topaz lance]

People keep asking for it but honestly I can't see it be too much fun. You'd end up with a basic ranged and basic melee option.

[warm idol]

its just for variety

[jaunty birch]

Could see a bolt pistol or plasma pistol at best but those are new weapons entirely

[warm idol]

if a weapon is doodoo

buff it instead of adding a good variant

[unreal bone]

Yes because what we need is another Kantrael lasgun variant that's never gonna get used cause XII exists or another Accatran variant that will never get used cause everyone dogs on Accatran

[warm idol]

having one varaint be good and the other bad is shit

[vital saddle]

i see no issue in this really specially if its a las pistol and devils claw or chainsword so on

[warm idol]

accatran just needs buffs all around

[vital saddle]

me being like 1a go brrr

[warm idol]

and be more distinct from eachother

[tall torrent]

XII is not even the best lasgun rn ?

[topaz lance]

SPecial attack being ranged? I don't know, tastes are different but for me it just seems lame.

[warm idol]

is it not?

[vital saddle]

recoilless lasguns when

[warm idol]

I thought all of them are on par

atm

[vital saddle]

reeee

[jaunty birch]

Xii is my personal fave

[topaz lance]

The best lasgun is the las pistol

[jaunty birch]

1 hits most things with headshot

[unreal bone]

XII is the best all around lasgun

[tall torrent]

It’s still good but not the best

[warm idol]

xii is prolly used by most since a lot of people have a good one from the early days

[unreal bone]

If you want a raw damage lasgun you go with a helbore

[tall torrent]

Wouldn’t say that so certainly

[unreal bone]

you want versatility you go XII

[warm idol]

im not talking about diff weapons

[vital saddle]

muh stability makes me sad

[warm idol]

im talking about kantrael

[tall torrent]

Yea no

[unreal bone]

Ik

[odd pollen]

Yo

[jaunty birch]

Love the helbore too, tho I feel the helbore is more versatile than the xii

[vital saddle]

gun hit face and hurt me

[odd pollen]

Peoples

[topaz lance]

The fast one is better

[jaunty birch]

Bayonet is actually really good

[odd pollen]

I saw the part 2 announcement

but question

what the fuck do fanning mean

since i ain't english

[warm idol]

carpal tunnel moment

[unreal bone]

Go ahead and do some quick reaction shots with a lasgun that has a literal windup timer.

[odd pollen]

'Agripinaa Mk XIV Quickdraw Stub Revolver with its fanning technique'

[vital saddle]

fanning is rapid firing a revolver

[jolly cave]

The Ia and the IV lasguns do more dps on paper than the XII. I still prefer the XII since it's more ammo efficient and hits more body shot breakpoints, but I would not say the XII is the best.

[jaunty birch]

Mark 2 charge is almost instant

[topaz lance]

I see the point, but full auto mod is your friend.

[tall torrent]

^

[warm idol]

tech heresy

[odd pollen]

pog??

[warm idol]

its just comfy

[jaunty birch]

And has higher fire rate than the xii

[tall torrent]

Rapid firing a single action revolver

[warm idol]

its the perfect sweet spot in rof

[jolly cave]

It is also just comfy

[jaunty birch]

Youtube fanning a revolver

[warm idol]

its not that slow without being super fast

[topaz lance]

revolver go brrrrrt

[vital saddle]

semantics but thats what they ment tho

[jaunty birch]

Woops tagged wrong person

[unreal bone]

Exactly it has the perf rpm combine with great damage and great ammo economy.

[bleak tendon]

You guys ain't getting your hellguns

Womp womp

[neon briar]

fanning a revolver is like what mccree does in overwatch

[unreal bone]

When I use any lasgun but a XII I have to pick up ammo boxes, but I literally never have to grab ammo picks up with the XII

[astral blade]

wow some dumbass on the fat shark dev team must be a fan of cow boys

[unreal bone]

From start to finish in Auric Damnantion I never need to restock

[vital saddle]

not tried the iv las but i doubt it beats a 1a anyway

[tall torrent]

Single action is still pretty different from double action and I think the new revolver would be a lot of fun

[warm idol]

eh I am just not a fan of the revolver

or any pistol really

[jaunty birch]

Alt fire prolly gonna dump the clip is my guess

[jolly cave]

Pretty much identical dps on paper, 1a just shoots faster.

[unreal bone]

Revolver is also another possibility tbh for a new mark.

[topaz lance]

Rude

[warm idol]

till we can dual wield them with a melee

[warm idol]

its confirmed

[topaz lance]

That one is announced

[jaunty birch]

Revolver is honestly top tier ranged weap

[unreal bone]

Oh it is lmao

[vital saddle]

1a actually shoots faster than iv

[unreal bone]

I'm not surprised.

[vital saddle]

wut

[bleak tendon]

We are getting one

[warm idol]

it is but not my style

[bleak tendon]

No meltagun tho

[unreal bone]

Like I said with the bolter, plasma, and flamer earlier we're going to get new marks of weapons that only have 1 variant.

[mystic belfry]

Give us a 14 round revolver

[astral blade]

that was the entire point

[unreal bone]

Bolter, Plasma, Flamer, Laspistol, Revolver, Shredder Autopistol

[serene sage]

I can't read

[warm idol]

I still think the mark system is dumb and we should have just had a weapon crafting system where we can adjust weapons and do stuff like sacrifice rof for dmg

[jaunty birch]

If they get marks then we aint gettin pistol versions of plasma or bolter, no way they give them marks, and make pistol versions

[topaz lance]

That was probably in the game at some point

[mystic belfry]

There should be no rolled base stats at all

[warm idol]

and scrapped for god knows why

oh yeah

[untold mulch]

It looks like it was the OG idea

[unreal bone]

We've actually already seen that there was supposed to be bolter marks before the beta.

[warm idol]

PLAYER RETENTION

[serene sage]

I think this game is dumb and we should all play League of Legends instead

[unreal bone]

Which got recycled into commissary skins for the bolter for example.

[topaz lance]

I think this game is great and am mildly optimistic about the changes and content

[warm idol]

also theres already models for diff marks

[unreal bone]

Or the flamer how when you use the defauly skin it's much lighter and stuff

[warm idol]

like bolter

[serene sage]

Okay fine, let's play Titan Fall 2

[warm idol]

plasma

[unreal bone]

but the commissary skin is heavy af

[mystic belfry]

Everyone linch foxhope

[warm idol]

laspistol

etc

[serene sage]

Not nearly grim nor dark enough

[unreal bone]

Yep that's what I was saying earlier

[topaz lance]

Sorry, all of of grim and dark for today

[astral blade]

Imma be brutally honest I’m not really holding my breath when to the vet rework

[jaunty birch]

Imo either money shop skins or a new weap entirely

[tall torrent]

Play -0.5 brightness, it’ll surely be dark enough

[unreal bone]

They already have models for bolter, plasma, flamer, and autopistol variants.

[warm idol]

I love the game but the cosmetic store and loot/crafting system is legit cancer

[serene sage]

They're just deleting stuff

[unreal bone]

It's gonna happen and right now is probably the best time to do it.

[serene sage]

Surely they can't screw it up

[junior needle]

It doesn't unless there's a recently introduced bug. 1a has 3.64 shots per second, mg4 has 5.

[astral blade]

It’s fat shark we are talking about here

[untold mulch]

THE MONKEY PAW CURLS

[jaunty birch]

Tbh sone shit needs to get deleted

[unreal bone]

They sliced the magazine in half on the current bolter

[astral blade]

They will screw something up

[topaz lance]

What if the pistols are the marks.

[warm idol]

I hope they change it sometime soon but considering they are going on vacation till feb after the next update

[unreal bone]

and the bolter variant that they removed originally

had a bigger mag

[warm idol]

not holding my breath

[unreal bone]

so more ammo

[vital saddle]

ah so thats why my 1a has been firing stupid fast

[unreal bone]

There will be a new bolter variant with more ammo stockpile and mag size watch

[astral blade]

What this guy said

[topaz lance]

I don't understand why they don't roll out another wave of ordo dockets cosmetics.

[serene sage]

Or just buff the current one to have 30% faster draw speed, 18 bullet mag

[junior needle]

Or you're using weapon spec with the 1a, boosting the fire rate.

[warm idol]

I just want less reskins in the premium shop

[serene sage]

And suddenly we are solidly good

[warm idol]

like

[jaunty birch]

That would be a whole other weapon, in its own family with its own blessings. Doubt the pistol varient would share all blessings of the heavier varient

[warm idol]

make it so after buying a premium item

you buy the reskins for dockets

and release all the unique cosmetics to the store

[unreal bone]

Why would they buff the current one when they have a fully finished second variant of the bolter, and a perfect excuse to release it now cause the current variant is a tiny magged cannon.

[vital saddle]

wdym weapon spec?

[warm idol]

seriously its aids that those cheap reskins clog up the rotation

[astral blade]

Literally variants are just fragging reskins anyways

[serene sage]

Cause based on what you described it would invalidate the current Bolter which is already outpaced by a bunch of other weapons?

[topaz lance]

That's probably true, I wasn't seriously considering the possibility. Well, we'll see in the next 3 weeks.

[jaunty birch]

Shit it might be tuesday

[junior needle]

Weapon specialist boosts fire ranged for 5s for the ranged portion of the talent. That part functions properly and as described, unlike the crit. There shouldn't be any other way for an 1a to fire faster or even as fast as a 4 outside of a bug.

Of course using weapon spec with the mg4 would result in even higher fire rate.

[unreal bone]

No the difference would be the current bolter has low ammo stockpile and massive kick with the tradeoff of it being a literal cannon, the second variant would have a bigger mag size and ammo stockpile and probably be more of a spam one.

[warm idol]

did they say when the patch comes out

god I hope its soon

[topaz lance]

I wouldn't hold my breath.

[vital saddle]

oh right ye never use that side of the tree anyway

[warm idol]

when did part 1 come out again

[neon briar]

they said it's "before the holiday break"

[vital saddle]

just notice my rate of fire go really silly when getting shot at with the 1a

[jaunty birch]

Part 1 was announced with a teaser on 11/10 and was dropped on the 14th

[neon briar]

when they said the news about the update would come out the end of november it cae out literally the last day of november

given that

the patch will be out on dec 23

[unreal bone]

They nerfed the bolter, it has only one variant and they are releasing new variants in the next update. I'd bet money on a bolter variant that swaps the tradeoffs of the current bolter making the new one a bigger mag more ammo spam friendly one.

[serene sage]

I understand that, I'm just saying that making a new variant doesn't solve the current bolter's problem, but is more than likely exacerabte it.

[junior needle]

Probably just a strange interaction with hitstun and not anything to do with the gun itself

[unreal bone]

The problem isn't with the bolter, the problem is with the other guns.

You take a bolter into an auric damnantion it does what it is supposed to do, brick specials and big boys.

[serene sage]

plasma and revolver do that better

[jaunty birch]

Part 1 was announced on a friday and released the following Tuesday

See them doin the same with p2