and as for the other 2, the ping keystone is maybe the strongest in the whole game when fully upgraded, fucking dutty
#veteran-class
low wadi
but what makes it good, it just feels wonky
crude wind
like, Veteran has 3 good keystones and 2 really fun ones
acoustic wyvern
take a reload talent while you're at it
crude wind
Vets winning
mystic belfry
but what makes it good, it just feels wonky
Damage
dusk idol
most ridiculous playstyle solution i have ever seen
sharp ember
be good at melee to stretch out your ammo for as long as possible, and just whip that thing out to instantly murder specials or annoying elites, stick to uncharged shots as charged shots aren't worth it right now
crude wind
tree's too big atm but hoping for that to get changed
fresh mango
Huh, i guess the opinion of them changed after they got added
crude wind
people played with them 😛
dusk idol
honestly if the tree was made more efficient, trimmed down to be in line with the other classes
i'd be way more inclined to pick up keystones
versed merlin
saw a vet cooking up elites with an autogun and exec stance on auric last night. idk their build but i assume it was marksman keystone as they were stationary most of the time
mystic belfry
be good at melee to stretch out your ammo for as long as possible, and just whip...
This is exactly why I like plasma, because I use melee as often as I physically can
low wadi
i should prob get a caxe
celest vine
You will never get the cool gear
mystic belfry
Rashad is nice
dusk idol
currently none of my five builds do not use them because honestly? even in the hardest difficulty of play, none of them are so good they must be taken
celest vine
steady granite
I had a question, are going all the way to the keystones with not much left to add to the build worth it? Or is it better to skip the keystones altogether and allocate those points elsewhere. I do like Focus Target, but idk everyone's thoughts
near sable
"mindblown"
sharp ember
but what makes it good, it just feels wonky
an exe stance plasma WILL 1shot anything squishier than a rager, and you can use highlight vision to shoot enemies behind thin cover or walls, so entrenched gunners are a piece of cake
dusk idol
I had a question, are going all the way to the keystones with not much left to a...
they're good, it's hard to say they're worth how much they cost in skill points
sharp ember
and any elite congalines get disintegrated by your cleave
celest vine
I had a question, are going all the way to the keystones with not much left to a...
Middle is most versatile, left is for automatic weapoms, right is for aggressive players
steady granite
Obligatory vet fashion
untold mulch
"mindblown"
Fix your damn spawns Fatshark
mystic belfry
Plasma wall bangs are dope
acoustic wyvern
I had a question, are going all the way to the keystones with not much left to a...
keystones are nice but not a must, for the left keystone i only took the one that gives you focus. nothing else
steady granite
Middle is most versatile, left is for automatic weapoms, right is for aggressive...
oh hmm ok thanks
near sable
that's a perfect poxer spawn
fresh mango
thoughts on this for plas gun build?
celest vine
oh hmm ok thanks
Its just free damage against hard targets for middle key
alpine pebble
never tried but...can you block a crusher overhead?
near sable
with your body? yes
median belfry
never tried but...can you block a crusher overhead?
only once.
sharp ember
Plasma wall bangs are dope
nice hat
mystic belfry
Middle is most versatile, left is for automatic weapoms, right is for aggressive...
Left is t only automatics. It can also work with las pistol or vraks 7 for example
steady granite
Its just free damage against hard targets for middle key
I noticed spamming it on a boss can really help the team melt the thing which is satisfying
acoustic wyvern
thoughts on this for plas gun build?
imo plasma is already hulking, might as well make your melee faster for when plasma fails with most of the right tree
dusk idol
never tried but...can you block a crusher overhead?
you can block them but you'll take chip damage through your stamina bar
near sable
the plasma gun is the superior melee weapon
celest vine
Left is t only automatics. It can also work with las pistol or vraks 7 for examp...
It can but its too tedious to do so
acoustic wyvern
but still it looks great
mystic belfry
It can but its too tedious to do so
Not really?
celest vine
Works best on recon lasguns
muted knot
I still enjoy left keystone with Chainblade and revolver
mystic belfry
Any more than it usually is
dusk idol
you can block them but you'll take chip damage through your stamina bar
UNLESS, you count dclaw parry as a block
low wadi
so u are suposed to use plasma with the melee build?
celest vine
But recons are toilets
tardy wharf
celest vine
Designed by donkeys
mystic belfry
Recom lasguns aren’t good with anything
sharp ember
never tried but...can you block a crusher overhead?
you can devil claw parry it if you time it right and have sufficient stamina
dusk idol
but dclaw parry is not condusive to the discussion, just one alternative
celest vine
Recom lasguns aren’t good with anything
Thsts the problem 
muted knot
so u are suposed to use plasma with the melee build?
The answer is always revolver at least at it's current powerlevel
acoustic wyvern
so u are suposed to use plasma with the melee build?
supposed is the wrong word. you can run anything with plasma
mystic belfry
The answer is always revolver at least at it's current powerlevel
Nah, plasma is very good too
dusk idol
you could run absolutely no talents with the plasma and still do absolutely fine
sharp ember
it's just highly encouraged to perform the act of melee to conserve ammo
acoustic wyvern
except deadshot
mystic belfry
My favorite guns for a melee build are las pistol, revolver, and plasma
acoustic wyvern
I prefer the kantrael shotgun for my melee build
acoustic wyvern
i think cause its cool to slide with a shotty
bahaha
i never could bring myself to use las pistol
not sure why
celest vine
Doesnt Kantrael special ammo have limitless cleave?
mystic belfry
It’s very good
mystic belfry
Doesnt Kantrael special ammo have limitless cleave?
Yep
celest vine
💀
mystic belfry
Goes through shields too
mystic belfry
It does, make sure to take target down as well
acoustic wyvern
yes
celest vine
the tag keystone kinda fucks
Hey chaos spawn, fuck off!
mystic belfry
The other two are optional but can be good
mystic belfry
Max stacks is the most optional, is only take it after the other two
versed merlin
the tag keystone kinda fucks
it does but please dont be that guy that binds tag to left mouse click
fresh mango
I SWITCHED IT FOR THIS
celest vine
Max stacks is the most optional, is only take it after the other two
Ill usually take the toughness and stamina on kill
fresh mango
Ive been a horrible person having it on left click
celest vine
Cause A, i use deadshot
And toughness to team is great
Just by doing what im supposed to do
acoustic wyvern
grab exhilirating too while you're at it
celest vine
I have it
mystic belfry
Ill usually take the toughness and stamina on kill
Yeah that’s target down. Very very strong
acoustic wyvern
what trailer?
fresh mango
the teaser trailer
near sable
He twin-linked his flashlight
near sable
the flak helmet from last week looks 👌 with the new flak gear for vet
fresh mango
got the chainsword, just need the plasteel now
near sable
mystic belfry
Gross :v
near sable
pdf gear...
versed merlin
yeah nah i aint digging those biker caps
fresh mango
hes just so perfect
near sable
usually PDF's have the shoddier equipment
celest vine
I only wear it for the mask
Once flak helmet gets the rebreather ill never wear it again
near sable
the blue variant of the blue/green flak helmets might look good with the new flak as well
cannot say as i only have the green one
muted knot
Isn't it just the original moebian VI gear
near sable
waxen matrix
got the chainsword, just need the plasteel now
Is that a good rating?
fresh mango
as good as it gets
muted knot
You don't care too much about mobility
near sable
20 off
muted knot
So it's a good roll
tall torrent
Once flak helmet gets the rebreather ill never wear it again
Pretty sure the game says that helmet with silver winged skull on it is carapace armor
fresh mango
wish the rating was higher but it’s good enough for me
acoustic wyvern
Scab lookin gear for me
tall torrent
Isn't it just the original moebian VI gear
No, the blue gear is worn by Moebian 21st (another regiment who stopped by atoma prime for resupply when the cult started messing around)
near sable
they were the dudes on the tancred
tall torrent
It’s blue because of their campaign on Incron, a planet mostly covered in ocean
near sable
yknow the ones who forgot to shove the poxburster
the new vet backpack will probably make some of the kriegers happy
looks relatively krieg-y
delicate moat
i forgor, does bayonet push back a poxburster?
delicate moat
placid portal
It can even stunlock a rager
celest vine
Scab lookin gear for me
placid portal
placid portal
PoV vets after patch 15
celest vine
Id love to get moebian 6th gear for our characters
It would look cool
Without all the spikey bits
placid portal
man the welder for the mobians are pretty damn good at this
could it be....?
The Maulers are professional welders confirmed
near sable
mauler's are what you get when the gun crews of a corvette mutiny
untold mulch
Without all the spikey bits
Love that falling to chaos gives you an obsession with spikes
for some reason
placid portal
why do heretics like putting spikes on their armor
celest vine
This is it
celest vine
why do heretics like putting spikes on their armor
How else are you supposed to know they’re the bad guys
untold mulch
ornate remnant
How do you get this?
placid portal
digging through game files
ornate remnant
Ah. So is it not equipable then?
celest vine
celest vine
How do you get this?
A mod revealed all locked cosmetics
inner olive
Stealing this
tall torrent
I think the existing 3 helmets from penances that use the same “helmet” part all say they’re “graia mk IV carapace warden helm”
small echo
Is this shovel good, just reached level 30
celest vine
Cause people kept taking screenshots of the unreleased helmets and telling them “stop lying and release them already”
placid portal
Is this shovel good, just reached level 30
not bad, just lacking in damage stat
small echo
Any tips for improvement
placid portal
Blessings alone are fuckin goated
inner olive
Is that an actual shovel user?? That’s so fucking rare
small echo
I'm a krieg fan
inner olive
I only ever see combat knives and chain swords these days
placid portal
Any tips for improvement
blessings are a good set, swap infested for flak
small echo
Ok
celest vine
I am too once I got my best roll
placid portal
I only ever see combat knives and chain swords these days
More of a catachan claw enjoyer
inner olive
More of a catachan claw enjoyer
Respect
mystic belfry
Is that an actual shovel user?? That’s so fucking rare
It is?
placid portal
I am too once I got my best roll
nice
mystic belfry
Shove is nice it just needs an armor damage gun
inner olive
I Play a few times a day and rarely see it
small echo
What guns do you think compliment it? I think Lucius mk 2 right?
celest vine
Shoot more boolets
celest vine
What guns do you think compliment it? I think Lucius mk 2 right?
Mk2 is less janky
placid portal
Just like mk3 drip
celest vine
Faster firing
small echo
Got it
placid portal
Very classic musket
inner olive
I gotta show my Lasgun here in a minute, it’s the first Las gun I’ve had that reliably works in auric damnation and it’s made me enjoy vet way more
celest vine
Got it
Get onslaughts 4 and you shoot fully charged shots faster than an MG12 infantry las
placid portal
onslaught + surgical do be a pair of fates
No Respite do be a nice niche blessing since mk2 staggers bigguns and shoot fast enough to exploit the window
untold mulch
God, Gunners wreck me so hard when I am playing Zealot or Ogryn
placid portal
Those Gunner resists really help
untold mulch
I run resist on both for that reason
for my vet and psyker I only run a 20% because I haven't felt yet need more
placid portal
BLAS-FEMURS 🔥
small echo
Got it
placid portal
god tox flamer quotes have that weird pronunciation
untold mulch
Probably should add more Gunner to my Psyker, with how squishy he is
but also
mf regens toughness by existing
untold mulch
Generate peril? toughness
Lose peril? toughness
Fucking around? toughness
Finding out? you guessed it toughness
untold mulch
5% per 10% peril generated 10% per 10% peril quelled
And literally is possible to get both in all builds
Is literally the first talent choices
placid portal
small echo
Is surgical and falter blessings good? On helbore
willow badger
What curios you guys run
placid portal
Surgical is hella good and try to find onslaught
willow badger
Am running 2x toughness and 1x health
placid portal
3 +3 Stams, no balls even if I don't do Deadshot
willow badger
With gunner resistance, stam Regen, sniper resistance
small echo
Which do I change to onslaught?
placid portal
well you could find another.
Scrap it for lvl4 surgical and find a better one,
Priority stats are,
Damage & Stopping Power
Charge Rate
Ammo/Stability
but for now you can swap for onslaught
small echo
Ok
celest vine
god tox flamer quotes have that weird pronunciation
FIRE DEATH RENEWAL
placid portal
BLAS FEMUR
small echo
Thank you all for the advices
tiny pendant
WANNEM CRISPY?
placid portal
BRINGING THE FLAME
tiny pendant
"Target that ... thing!" - Quote from ""veteran"" who has seen 195478376 moebian flamers up to this point (it's litterally just a fucking dude with a flamethrower why are you so baffled by this but totally blase about beasts of nurgle)
celest vine
READYIN CROWD CONTROL
atomic zephyr
SOMEONE ASK FOR A BOOM?
celest vine
atomic zephyr
"Target that ... thing!" - Quote from ""veteran"" who has seen 195478376 moebian...
im still confused about this, do they just not have a voice line recorded for it?
placid portal
"Target that ... thing!" - Quote from ""veteran"" who has seen 195478376 moebian...
WHAT THE HEL IS THAT THING??!?!! Loose cannon when detecting FLamer
celest vine
Traxis something, KILL IT
placid portal
OMEGA..... SHOOT IT
tiny pendant
the thing is there's like, one normal line where they just call it a flamer. But 90% of the time they're shitting pissing and karking themself at the sight of a fella with gardening equipment
atomic zephyr
TRAXIS-1 SUPPRESSING FIRE
celest vine
Traxis 1 is sniper
atomic zephyr
yeah I know
placid portal
Omegron 33 do be a dog
atomic zephyr
i play professional vet it’s slowly being burned only my head
pale lotus
Sigma Minoris 33 is dog
placid portal
ah
atomic zephyr
yeah sigma minoris
placid portal
omegron is the big uns
tiny pendant
back (somewhat) on topic, I'm stuck with +8% Elite damage perk on an IAG, which is better for second perk? Flak, maniac, or + specialist?
celest vine
What about scab gunners?
placid portal
Being loose cannon vet I don't do codes
atomic zephyr
Traxis 77?
celest vine
Thats trapper
placid portal
I say, "SHOOT THE DAMN THING"
pale lotus
What about scab gunners?
Traxis 3 I think
atomic zephyr
fuck
celest vine
I plat cutthroat vet
pale lotus
Same
tiny summit
I plat cutthroat vet
And how's cadia doing right now?
placid portal
Loose Cannon Grindset,
Fuck eretics, get money
atomic zephyr
fuck heretics? that sounds like heresy, soldier
celest vine
And how's cadia doing right now?
New planet
delicate moat
i dont know why doing the most boss dmg with bayonet stabby stabby is the funniest shit to me
placid portal
i dont know why doing the most boss dmg with bayonet stabby stabby is the funnie...
bc FS buffed the crap outta bayonet melee
delicate moat
tiny pendant
back (somewhat) on topic, I'm stuck with +8% Elite damage perk on an IAG, which ...
any suggesters in chat
delicate moat
back (somewhat) on topic, I'm stuck with +8% Elite damage perk on an IAG, which ...
flak/maniac both good
pale lotus
I miss when there werent any lines for Scab Flamer callouts
celest vine
High damage guns take maniac
Lower take flak
So infantry las should have flak first
tiny pendant
its columnus IAG so low dmg ig
pale lotus
Me and my friends would always scream "Holy fuck what is that thing?!"
celest vine
its columnus IAG so low dmg ig
Flak first then
placid portal
Lucius should have maniac first
only for mk2 you have to take maniac to kill 1 tap flamers
placid portal
Fair point
celest vine
Mk3 with maniac can do that, assuming its crit
tiny pendant
Flak first then
I'd agree without question but most elite are flak so +elite somewhat helps with this, and i feel like im shooting water at mutants
curse hadron
celest vine
I'd agree without question but most elite are flak so +elite somewhat helps with...
Lets you kill shooters faster and bruisers
tiny pendant
1mil spent on getting decent rolls
placid portal
Elites are flak unarmored, maniac, and carapace
also unyielding
So all of the above
tiny pendant
yea fs but most are flak
placid portal
Flak is prevalent regardless
celest vine
This changes things on autoguns
tiny pendant
no it doesn't, I aim like a console player kek
celest vine
Autoguns are far far more effective on console
tiny pendant
fr? how so
near sable
"console aim"
tiny pendant
like litteral numbers buff?
celest vine
I think fatshark believed the console aim meme
crude wind
i doubt this will survive
celest vine
Overcompensated
tiny pendant
they rly do not trust console players to get out of bed in the morning
celest vine
Just Infantry autoguns
crude wind
so clearly a bug
near sable
add this magnetism to melee weapons for console
crude wind
revolver has always had it
near sable
i want to see someone console turn followed by their thunderhammer magnetizing to a mutants head
crude wind
for pc players as well
umbral scaffold
Whats tge new discourse now aim ?
celest vine
Infantry lasguns dont have
umbral scaffold
If it aint aquillas its always some other shit
celest vine
If you were on console, i would have told you to go with flam
Cause the overwhelming majority of heads are flak armored
topaz pebble
If you're up close those guns have the largest hitbox on this side of Tertium
celest vine
And the bullet magnetism prioritizes heads
versed merlin
lmao wtf is this
devout blaze
vets, I recently hit 30 and found this in the milk shop. It looks like it rules, but I don't know anything about vet optimization at 30. Is this as nice as it seems, or is it some weird pervets weapon?
celest vine
Since you’ll probably hit more headshots than bodyshots on IaG consoles
tall torrent
literally just infantry autoguns
Cuz they’re like the only guns that require significant input to offset the recoil
topaz pebble
Servicable, replace all or nothing with brutal momentum
celest vine
lmao wtf is this
Console perks
tall torrent
vets, I recently hit 30 and found this in the milk shop. It looks like it rules,...
It’s not the best thing but serviceable
tall torrent
I’d probably swap both blessings to brutal momentum + shred
celest vine
Xbox has literal gameplay advantages over PC
tall torrent
Shred is actually really good for tac axes
tiny pendant
vets, I recently hit 30 and found this in the milk shop. It looks like it rules,...
average, no real reason to be using tac axe rn imo
topaz pebble
Tacs are fun
tiny pendant
they are
crude wind
Xbox has literal gameplay advantages over PC
excuse me, having 6 free outfits of premium drip is a huge gameplay advantage
devout blaze
I've used the mk 2 a bit, but the 4 feels weird with its upswings. Thanks for the info <3
celest vine
They are really good ngl
crude wind
u better know killing heretics with stale garms ain't the one
celest vine
Ogryn and zealot have great oned
topaz pebble
Fatshark selling recolors of skins full price
celest vine
Vet body a pants are good
crude wind
Vet one kind of sucks donkey balls
topaz pebble
Its so hard to mix and match pieces
celest vine
Vet one kind of sucks donkey balls
Thr head sucks
brave egret
yo wheres the mf'ing cover art armor? its been a year
topaz pebble
Wait one more year
crude wind
Thr head sucks
i hate the moon boots at dick harness as well
really not my cup of tea
topaz pebble
3k aquillas
crude wind
why is dick gotta be all leashed up like that
celest vine
Its a safety harness
brave egret
cause its tainted by chaos
sharp ember
why is dick gotta be all leashed up like that
tight pants tight groupings
celest vine
Help with blood flow when hanging in real life
tiny pendant
it's the hog harness, gotta keep that shit in check
tiny summit
Keep your dick strapped from the corruption of chaos
inner olive
I've returned
tall torrent
Thr head sucks
It actually kind of looks good with mortis set
inner olive
celest vine
Its a real thinf with paratroopers irl
crude wind
It actually kind of looks good with mortis set
nice find, however you forgot one thing
BEARD INTERACTION
celest vine
It actually kind of looks good with mortis set
BALD
crude wind
this guy has a stonking beard btw
tiny pendant
bro's playing r6 siege, got that Smoke fit
crude wind
and look at those horrific burns
brave egret
in rl you cant have a gas mask on with a beard
brave egret
doesnt work as well
crude wind
in rl you cant have a gas mask on with a beard
what about unreal life
tiny summit
this guy has a stonking beard btw
Bro hit with the uniform regulations for his mask
tall torrent
I ran the Moebian 21st armor for 1 day then went back to the redacted penance set lol
brave egret
in unreal life you wouldnt have to reload
tall torrent
Black & red is just a much cleaner color mix for me
placid portal
Agreed
brave egret
i secretly miss reloading on f ability
placid portal
Same
tiny pendant
i dont even miss it secretly
placid portal
^
topaz pebble
I miss the bigger they are
placid portal
I NEED IT
crude wind
I ran the Moebian 21st armor for 1 day then went back to the redacted penance se...
tbf Vet's looks shit. It has all 3 of the Fatshark cosmetic cardinal sins
- Reused crappy assets (moon boots)
- Shoulder pads off in space (gravity? fuck that)
- weird hair/facial hair interactions with headpiece
placid portal
I miss the bigger they are
ahhh 75% dmg vs Monster/Ogryns
brave egret
it was nice for bolter, i actually got the bolter working in a build and it really fun.
tall torrent
tbf Vet's looks shit. It has all 3 of the Fatshark cosmetic cardinal sins
- Reus...
It is what it is
Can’t have shit on atoma prime
topaz pebble
Now its actually just a waste of a point
brave egret
just cant use keystones
topaz pebble
Yeah let me waste a point just to highlight ogryns and lock myself out of counterfire
crude wind
Yeah let me waste a point just to highlight ogryns and lock myself out of counte...
this
topaz pebble
Bundle those two together
crude wind
it feels like tax for something the ability should just do
last time I checked
Ogryns were elite enemies
tall torrent
Today is supposed to be cash shop refresh right?
topaz pebble
Vet tree is literally just constant point taxes
brave egret
thats a waste of a talent. unless your running hellbore 3, cause you can 1 shot every shooter with bodyshots anyway
crude wind
it happened
crude wind
whoa are you saying Ogryns aren't humanoid
that's fucked up man
don't you dare
those sweet big boys
they're as human as the rest of us
brave egret
what size condoms do ogryns use
crude wind
I mean "Small Humans"
BETTER
placid portal
Magnum Dong
crude wind
😛
brave egret
lmao
crude wind
oh they definitely packing Magnums
brave egret
im just imagining a glad garbage bag
crude wind
lol
nimble sentinel
- you are degenerates
nimble sentinel
- homo sapiens actually have the largest penises in the primate family so it might be even smaller
topaz pebble
I hate em 😡
Not a true veteran
crude wind
2) homo sapiens actually have the largest penises in the primate family so it mi...
guy coming in swinging with the hard facts here
sand hemlock
i want to give big man a promotion every time he shows me the rock in an elevator 🥺
serene sage
Not a true veteran
gatekeeping smh my head, so much elitism 😤
placid portal
i want to give big man a promotion every time he shows me the rock in an elevato...
Gotta snag some stickers from the commisaariat
even if it means I get thrown into latrine duty
nimble sentinel
I hate em 😡
sand hemlock
sticker that says "emprahs bestest pal" pls for 100000 dockets
untold mulch
2) homo sapiens actually have the largest penises in the primate family so it mi...
I hate that I KNOW
Someone, somewhere already has done the math
placid portal
Well
finite imp
Man imagine the shower after getting back from a damnation mission
serene sage
I hate that I KNOW
Someone, somewhere already has done the math
the difference between dicking around and science is writing things down
pun intended
magic warren
finally upgraded my columnus to orange... knew my luck couldn't last forever... 
serene sage
Man imagine the shower after getting back from a damnation mission
have you ever wondered where the waste water go? do they just dump it straight back to tertium lmao
rigid pilot
does helbore3 just go keystoneless?
placid portal
have you ever wondered where the waste water go? do they just dump it straight b...
Well gotta purify it
rigid pilot
i dont see any value
finite imp
have you ever wondered where the waste water go? do they just dump it straight b...
Hell fucking yeah we do
odd sparrow
finally upgraded my columnus to orange... knew my luck couldn't last forever... ...
why the hell are you taking carapace
magic warren
¯_(ツ)_/¯
serene sage
Well gotta purify it
okay well that still makes waste
finite imp
We make shit monsters and then go battle them
magic warren
i don't really know what's good in the game
topaz pebble
Not as well as zealots hitting f but its pretty good
untold mulch
onslaught + weakness exploit
Exploit weakness is melee only
finite imp
You can kill anything with a knife
odd sparrow
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
carapace is the armor of crushers who litterally take between 0-2 dmg from auto guns/lasguns
serene sage
i don't really know what's good in the game
pretty good, hit and run to dum dum and carapace to flak and it's like 95% a godroll
placid portal
True
celest vine
finite imp
Knife is the empras choice
celest vine
Best im gonna get
placid portal
🥖
magic warren
carapace is the armor of crushers who litterally take between 0-2 dmg from auto ...
ahhh i see i see
magic warren
pretty good, hit and run to dum dum and carapace to flak and it's like 95% a god...
🫡
i appreciate the advice
celest vine
Mauler heads are carapace too
placid portal
Knife is the empras choice
I thought his choice was a golden flamey sword
celest vine
But the bodies are flak so shoot the body
placid portal
what is that feeling
finite imp
Like a plasteel bag
placid portal
if only
magic warren
society if i could trade my diamantine for plasteel at a decent exchange rate
serene sage
Like a plasteel bag
waiting to be pciked up, wanting to be useful
celest vine
nimble sentinel
like a plastic bag?
placid portal
Common Relic W
placid portal
I have the voices telling me to do some devious lick
celest vine
I love cheesing them to death
serene sage
spawn head needs to be bigger
celest vine
spawn head needs to be bigger
Should have stayed in the files
celest vine
its included
Ever crown a daemonhost with 6 krak grenades?
placid portal
delicate estuary
Ever crown a daemonhost with 6 krak grenades?
same could be said about the chaos spawn
serene sage
does that even kill her?
delicate estuary
both are poorely designed
untold mulch
Ever crown a daemonhost with 6 krak grenades?
The vibe check
placid portal
Now, someone's gotta make a mod where triggering twinned grenades promt "FREE CRACK" as sfx
sand hemlock
does that even kill her?
krak grenades do a stupid amount of damage to her but kinda hard to stick sometimes, her hitbox moves a lot
celest vine
krak grenades do a stupid amount of damage to her but kinda hard to stick someti...
As a shield ogryn, the daemonhost does fuck all
placid portal
delicate estuary
but again
celest vine
Remember when you could troll your team with veteran stealth
serene sage
ew ogryns
delicate estuary
you are not interacting with the boss
placid portal
Club Ogryns do trivialize bosses
serene sage
smell bad
celest vine
By waking up a daemonhost then triggering stealth and yhe host would agro a random teammate
They patched that
placid portal
Lmao tru
delicate estuary
sadly both chaos spawn and DH are poorely designed bosses
no player interaction
what so ever
its either you have a setup that makes it piss easy or you dont
celest vine
Shredder frag is nice but i do like one hitting bosses
delicate estuary
So we do so in same manner, no interaction, what so ever
-> you have a setup
mystic belfry
Power sword 6 does everything well
placid portal
brutal power up + push attack light combo is super lethal
serene sage
for a live service game, Darktide sure does move slowly
delicate estuary
for a live service game, Darktide sure does move slowly
what do you mean. Dont you enjoy that there has been a memory leak causing crashes ever since patch 1 that hasnt been hotfixed yet
nimble sentinel
power sword
placid portal
been rolling with combat axes and knife to forget I had a powersword
frank ledge
Been trying other stuff outside of boring sword
Veteran really needs more melees
Taxes are a joke
Knife vet is only for when ur shooting boltor into hordes
Caxes are fineish, wish they went back a bit on their power
Lswords are fun but painful
Shovel is the most fun I had
We need a pickaxe
atomic zephyr
chainsword :)
leaden grove
i used so much power sword i turn on the chain sword to fight horde
serene sage
Taxes are a joke
Knife vet is only for when ur shooting boltor into hordes
Caxes...
Taxes are a joke
accidental libertarianism
frank ledge
> Taxes are a joke
accidental libertarianism
Oh no
frank ledge
how to stop dying on my veteren sniper build on high difficulty?
Get a premade
Have ogryn watch ur back, telling you to get down mr.president
Pubs will NOT protect you from backspawns, so you'll be forced out of exe stance eventually
misty lance
poorly Im the ogryn when playing with my newbie friends
serene sage
how to stop dying on my veteren sniper build on high difficulty?
it is hard, but be a coward, screw coherency, save your frag for stagger
topaz pebble
Your only hope is coherency
misty lance
🫡
forest blaze
how to stop dying on my veteren sniper build on high difficulty?
what's your build look like?
frank ether
it feels like tax for something the ability should just do
the reset on kill should be baseline for volley fire
topaz pebble
Step out of it and Nurgle's strongest pox walker hits you with the might of a thousand suns
serene sage
also this is a strange advice but a legit one, actually make sure you are outputting damage as sniper vet
they can't hurt you if they are dead.
ive seen too many sniper vets bottom fragging
misty lance
what's your build look like?
basicly this https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4f4fdd-f4ef-4ea1-b7d6-71bf513e90d1/fuplaayz-sniper-vet-patch-15
serene sage
even when they are not dying
misty lance
but chainsaw
frank ether
ive seen too many sniper vets bottom fragging
I'm usually left all alone to deal with a horde by myself
thats soloq sharpshooter experience
serene sage
Your only hope is coherency
what I meant is stay in coherency but understand that you should be bailing at the first sight of trouble
serene sage
I'm usually left all alone to deal with a horde by myself
if you deal with horde by yourself then your should be really high cause chaffs pad stats
forest blaze
basicly this https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4f4fdd-f4ef-4ea1-b7d6-71...
aight nice. I just switched to something similar.
Your best bet is to ALWAYS BE SHOOTING. Everything gets shot. You should be putting so many bullets downwind that your team is questioning your ammo conversation.
serene sage
im talking sub 300k damage sniper vets in Auric T5
frank ether
I think the last time I was in the 300k range was when I played chainaxe
frank ledge
Fellow veterans, admire, my evidence that we are been teased about the Alpha legion
ZOLA IS ALPHARIUS
frank ether
for aurics anyways
nimble sentinel
Fellow veterans, admire, my evidence that we are been teased about the Alpha leg...
that can't be true, I'M Alpharius
frank ledge
that can't be true, **I'M** Alpharius
We are all Alpharius
nimble sentinel
or are we?
delicate harbor
Yeah, top tier!
celest vine
Thank god the alpha legion had alpharius
There wouldnt be any other named characters without him
serene sage
basicly this https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4f4fdd-f4ef-4ea1-b7d6-71...
if you are not aiming for Iron will, skip Tacticaly Aware, that is 3 point investments for an ult that can already be chained near indefinitely
forest blaze
and no demolition stockpile
Demo stockpile is really good with kraks and autogun so you can pop armor (which you barely do any damage to)
celest vine
serene sage
taking tac warenesss to increase your uptime from 80% to 100% is what I call overkill
3 points can go to confirmed kills and reload
forest blaze
if you are not aiming for Iron will, skip Tacticaly Aware, that is 3 point inves...
Fax. Ideally with your executioners, you should be able to keep killing during it to get a full reset 😂
serene sage
compared to born leader (KEK xD) and suppression bonus (doubly KEK xD)
forest blaze
Press F and shoot everyone
nimble sentinel
pay respects and click on heads
forest blaze
Hell. Even swapping those 3 points for out for blood and +10% melee
And just shoot everyone
willow badger
What does iron will do again
serene sage
I think the last time I was in the 300k range was when I played chainaxe
i think my lowest in the last 20 full games is 420k?
forest blaze
What does iron will do again
toughness damage reduction
nimble sentinel
link your playlist and/or be judged
frank ether
i think my lowest in the last 20 full games is 420k?
kinda depends on mission and how fast I ran through it whether I died or not yada yada
also whether I used a garbage gun or not
do chainaxe, I dare you
serene sage
link your playlist and/or be judged
oh dear god I am already judged
it's the League of Legends Worlds songs
this song goes hard
idc what you say
LoL music is legit
frank ether
dont worry you'll soon be able to listen to music all you want
when fatshart eventually breaks all sound ques
serene sage
listen to it :<
that and a random Spiritbox song called Jaded
which is pretty good
frank ether
I heard the riot mmo will be like guild wars 2
novel moth
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versed merlin
i was going to say you lack personality for listening to lol songs but spiritbox is approved
novel moth
One message removed from a suspended account.
serene sage
i was going to say you lack personality for listening to lol songs but spiritbox...
it's fine, being basic sets you free
i like what I like
frank ether
i was going to say you lack personality for listening to lol songs but spiritbox...
some of them are good, too bad they are lol songs but yea
nimble sentinel
One message removed from a suspended account.
I will forever be angry at the sheer quality of Arcane
versed merlin
some of them are good, too bad they are lol songs but yea
100% agreege
tho i get tired of those songs pretty quick
frank ether
Its just sad that its attached to a cringe game
maybe riot mmo will unstink the stink that is league of legends
but until then its cringe
serene sage
i've played it for a decade 💀
serene sage
she's not even that good now
nimble sentinel
why does the moba with the dead seas level of salt make a show that legit makes me fucking cry FUCKING SILCO
forest blaze
I'm a Senna and Aphelios main but I haven't played in a year or so
frank ether
league has what I call fomo balancing approach to video games
tiny summit
link your playlist and/or be judged
Arknights/Punishing Gray Raven playlist lately
serene sage
~~why does the moba with the dead seas level of salt make a show that legit make...
people need to separate the Runterra universe with LoL the video game haha
versed merlin
i know, the more i watch the game's new champions, the happier i am for quitting this game for good
serene sage
LoL the game is not canon
it's just a game
but the Runeterra-verse is fun and interesting
nimble sentinel
OH THE MYSERY
versed merlin
yeah it actually is
tiny summit
~~why does the moba with the dead seas level of salt make a show that legit make...
I'm a dota2 player and I'm jealous of the outside game stuff LoL gets
nimble sentinel
yeh arcane is my fave show
frank ether
but the Runeterra-verse is fun and interesting
almost like it'd make a good mmo or something
serene sage
everyone wants to me my enemies
frank ether
hmmmmmmmm
versed merlin
that is when they're not sticking korean boy band members into the universe
serene sage
that Ekko vs Jinx scene
is one of the most creative fight scene i've seen in recent years
nimble sentinel
I heard the riot mmo will be like guild wars 2
you have made me interested in it
tiny summit
Ekko is gonna be salt mine when the fighting game comes out
serene sage
they also have Riot Forge which is the indie games
Riot basically licenses out the IP and let (mostly) indie devs make their games
untold mulch
the reset on kill should be baseline for volley fire
Get taxed
frank ether
you have made me interested in it
I wouldnt be knowing its riot and tencent backing it
untold mulch
We need to heist some aquilas and throw them overboard
frank ether
there probably will be a catch
nimble sentinel
tencent backs darktide, I'm sticking to my Marcus Aurelius and braving the toxic sludge
serene sage
there probably will be a catch
inb4 we have the same crafting system in Darktide kek
frank ether
inb4 we have the same crafting system in Darktide kek
it will prolly have a rotating cosmetic shop for sure
serene sage
Tencent backs Discord too
truly gamers stand in the front line of the geopolitical war and yet are the most oppressed group.
forest blaze
Yah Tencent is a majority stakeholder in Fatshark
mystic belfry
We live in a world where everything is owned by like three companies
forest blaze
osceity
mystic belfry
And they’re probably all one group secretly smh
frank ether
We live in a world where everything is owned by like three companies
ah yes cyberßunk
serene sage
😔
nimble sentinel
ah yes cyberßunk
cybersunk?
frank ether
yee
mystic belfry
Cyberskunk
forest blaze
I'm in
mystic belfry
Monty python of course
frank ether
Monty python of course
ok you win
frank ether
we can watch monthy python
we can let zealots watch too
but only if they promise to share ammo
mystic belfry
Based
serene sage
fr though zealot chats have their own events
mystic belfry
They can watch it to learn from the black knight
nimble sentinel
Cyberskunk
nimble sentinel
give me it, now
gaunt delta
ERROR: Spotify profile does not exist. Falling back to YouTube music:
mystic belfry
I don’t use Spotify
forest blaze
mystic belfry
I throw my fate to the whims of random YouTube songs
trim hemlock
give me it, now
vast plover
nimble sentinel
it's not on my playlist yet but thank you for reminding me to add it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzG-qji05Lc
fading nexus
it could be peak if it wasnt on my psyker
nimble sentinel
definitely worth eating wrath
frank ether
yeah I'd just suck up wrath IV personally
my mentality is if its a bad roll I'll just not bother using it
and finesse is... well
delicate estuary
definitely worth eating wrath
eat dn
frank ether
finesse isnt a dump stat
to say the least
hmm I guess building chsword kinda demanding huh
nothing is a dump stat except mobility
humble nova
Oh, cool
junior needle
Shredder only affects the activation on it
So I'd consider it the least important of the damage affecting stats
hoary stratus
if mobility is the dump stat for chain axe then I have a perfectly rolled one stats-wise 
patent swift
Worth buying?
hoary stratus
I guess I'm just waiting for the buffs
versed merlin
chain axe
celest vine
Worth buying?
Absolutely
Great for horde clearing
Shred and devastating will parry off eachother
tiny summit
Worth buying?
Yes
trim steppe
Worth buying?
It'll work. I'd buy it for the blessings. reroll the perks, use it until I find a better one, then strip the T4 shred off for use elsewhere
patent swift
I'm guessing Maniacs/elites for perks?
celest vine
I'm guessing Maniacs/elites for perks?
Maniac and flak
Itll let you handle most enemies you encounter
Youll use your other weapons for carapace and unyielding
frank ether
Worth buying?
not bad with some work to perks it would work
celest vine
After all your weapons dont meed need to be good at killing everything
You can have on thats good for hordes, one good for shooters and elites
frank ether
If you're running this on right tree I would also grab exploit weakness for that %20 brittle
this should proc it relatively easily
with desperado and stacked shred
whats the base crit chance anyways now that I think about it
wary galleon
just played a match with a vet, that stole fucking 3 charges of ammo during interrogation
TWICE he took ammo charge while only having like 80% AMMO
junior rivet
qp damnation i just went in
wary galleon
i did not even get a charge the first time.
humble nova
That is certainly one of the builds of all time
nimble sentinel
junior rivet
no n eed to hover over and see the rest
humble nova
true, you died before the first event
junior rivet
we didnt even make it over the bridge
humble nova
F
warm idol
god damn so many reskins
does fatshark seriously think people will buy those
not even a good reskin
junior rivet
oggie chest is nice
trim hemlock
does fatshark seriously think people will buy those
Because they will, probably
tiny summit
You see with the rotating availability of items instead of having all of them available some people aren't gonna know if an item is a recolor because they didn't see the other week.
untold mulch
does fatshark seriously think people will buy those
Enough are buying the shitty reskins if they still doing it
untold moth
Are any of the Headhunter auto guns notably awesome?
celest vine
You see with the rotating availability of items instead of having all of them av...
They need to put shit in thats actually good
Like that heavy flak armor
trim hemlock
3 and 7 are popular and effective in their niches
untold moth
Are those the 1, 2, or 3 shot?
trim hemlock
3 shoots three, 7 shoots one
untold moth
I need to stamp that on a sticky note or something
devout atlas
Are any of the Headhunter auto guns notably awesome?
They're all good rn tbh.
I don't like em but they aight
untold moth
I just want something to replace the hole left where my recon lasgun used to go
trim hemlock
I need to stamp that on a sticky note or something
There is a pinned message from Guardsman that has this info specified
devout atlas
I just want something to replace the hole left where my recon lasgun used to go
laspistol is your friend
untold moth
I’d like the helbore if not for the weapon swap animation making me want to off myself
devout atlas
get the FullAuto mod and use laspis
it's pretty much a better recon
for all intents and purposes
untold moth
Dumdum infernus?
I don’t really like the sights of the laspistol. And even if it’s good, it feels lame to shoot a pistol
I want a man’s gun
Like, the kind of thing you have sitting in the bed of your lifted truck
trim hemlock
MG4 Infantry Lasgun is like a recon lasgun if you think about it hard enough
devout atlas
I don’t really like the sights of the laspistol. And even if it’s good, it feels...
With Crosshair Remap and Extended Weapon Customisation you can have this :P
untold moth
I should take a look at the other lasguns..
not even sure how blessing dependent most of these guns are.
devout atlas
Dumdum infernus?
I prefer Dumdum + Ghost
Infernus only rlly helps against bosses and even then a majority of your damage will be crit headshots
Ghost meanwhile makes you immune to bullets
untold moth
I still don’t understand why they changed the damage profile of the good recon
It used to do more damage the further the target was. That was cool
short wigeon
With Crosshair Remap and Extended Weapon Customisation you can have this :P
looks heretical in nature to me
devout atlas
I still don’t understand why they changed the damage profile of the good recon
They kept nerfing it because they saw a large % of the playerbase using it even though it wasn't even OP
untold moth
I was using it back when a large group of people on here said it wasn’t viable in damnation due to ammo reserve.
trim hemlock
I don’t think they even intended to nerf it directly - the recent change of ADM range values was probably intentional though, as it was odd that the only performing variant was the one that had, maybe unintentionally, reverse fall-off of its damage
untold moth
Then it ended up being good and I was happy. Now it’s gone
trim hemlock
Again, I’m just guessing
devout atlas
looks heretical in nature to me
dw some of my weapons are worse
trim hemlock
I doubt that they deliberately wanted to nerf the playstyle, though
untold moth
I just miss the reverse fall off
untold moth
And the other ones cause stagger or something and makes it hard to stay on head
I remember trying to roll low collateral to try to make them work
devout atlas
https://tenor.com/view/cat-say-bleh-gif-26378492
the axe bayonet is pretty funny tho
short wigeon
oh god i see it now
devout atlas
the big ass mag because its on an infinite ammo build
untold moth
What mod is that that lets you swap the sights
devout atlas
untold moth
I’m Gonna get call of duty in here
devout atlas
What mod is that that lets you swap the sights
Extended Weapon Customisation
untold moth
That bayonet is hilarious
What blessings do people use on helbore? The charge speed one, but what about the second
trim hemlock
Surgical, probably
untold moth
Last time I used helbore surgical was bugged on it
trim hemlock
No Respite would be my third choice, but it’s kind of redundant on a gun that typically kills in one shot
devout atlas
I’m Gonna get call of duty in here
You haven't seen Call of Duty until you've seen my AgRipinaa-15
trim hemlock
Last time I used helbore surgical was bugged on it
It definitely works as intended
devout atlas
Last time I used helbore surgical was bugged on it
Surgical on Helbore 3, Onslaught actually isn't needed as it fucks with Surgicals timings
thick rose
are any of the braced autoguns worth using?
devout atlas
are any of the braced autoguns worth using?
Graia and Agripinaa imho
Graia in braced has 2x firerate
Agripinaa is very good on Exec stance
ammo efficient enough to even be used against hordes in a knife+brauto build
thick rose
fire frenzy? deathspitter?
devout atlas
I prefer agri iag tho because it fucks with Deadshot
manic moth
Can you use it to parry or what?
frank ether
the axe bayonet is pretty funny tho
axe bayonet funnily enough is fitting given the current meme setup is to get an axe with limbsplitter/bromentum
devout atlas
fire frenzy? deathspitter?
yup
manic moth
im assuming it has some practical usage
devout atlas
Can you use it to parry or what?
Thats the helbore 3, with the overhead swing animation for the bayonet
So it actually fits :P
devout atlas
axe bayonet funnily enough is fitting given the current meme setup is to get an ...
I just use csword on it but its a funny meme yea
frank ether
I know it will probably get gutted but I'm secretly hoping they keep it for helbore 3
hb3 isnt broken even with this interaction
frank ether
I'd be happy if they gave hb3 baseline bromentum
devout atlas
guess what weapons i use in any of these builds to win exactly nothing
frank ether
actually bayonet memes are nice and all but not having a good defensive melee on sharpshooter is pain
axes are kinda lame for a sharpshooter vet
devout atlas
i like tax but i agree rashad has the most boring ass moveset ever
devout atlas
"why not just use rashad" maybe because i dont wanna fall asleep on my keyboard?
boring ahh light spam
rather have fun and be suboptimal (altho i do like tax special and dodge a LOT)
frank ether
I wish chaxe was good
frank ether
I rly like complicated stuff
like I enjoy hb3 because its complicated for your average sniper fantasy gun
vital saddle
What blessings do people use on helbore? The charge speed one, but what about th...
pretty much all helbores use surgical and onslaught now
devout atlas
Where is the 40K Halberd?
Crusher is the closest thing to halberd from VT2
actually very close
I love Crusher
karmic musk
Zealot Crusher?
frank ether
you could probably go out of the norm for helbore 2 given how fast it shoots
devout atlas
ye
karmic musk
I find it pretty simple to use
devout atlas
Zealot Crusher?
even has the same m1 block cancel
karmic musk
Light attack spam, or power attack spam, or heavy attack headshot
devout atlas
It is the closest
karmic musk
Need my heavy attack pokes
devout atlas
same m1 cancel, lights have variation, single-target is heavy-light like halberds, light-heavy is similar to halberds
but yea it doesnt have the push attack ultra combo
thats rlly only on smth like shovel, mk3 bully club, ps6
vital saddle
you could probably go out of the norm for helbore 2 given how fast it shoots
u can go for sustained fire on mk1 or mk2 but mk3 needs onslaught but imo there is pretty much no reason to use mk3 when mk1 exists 😄 you just gotta be ready for slower than nomral firing is all 😄
devout atlas
but in a lot of aspects Crusher is similar to Halberd plus its fun as fuck
bluntberd
vital saddle
crusher is basically what the power maul wishes it was
frank ether
u can go for sustained fire on mk1 or mk2 but mk3 needs onslaught but imo there ...
mk3's niche is that its the most well suited to hunt carapace targets
problem is its too slow to make reliable use of the keystone
to achieve that goal
vital saddle
mk3's niche is that its the most well suited to hunt carapace targets
with marksmen focus mk1 i can 3 tap crushers with +flak +elite dmg
frank ether
the keystone update was a bit of a nerf to helbore 3 in that regard
I think I'd care less
if I didnt had to sacrifice so much to achieve crusher one taps
the build now can not even afford grenade regen
vital saddle
ye rather use mk1 and get nodes like regen extra nade radius so on
frank ether
and on top of having a maximum 5-10 second window to achieve crusher one tap you also have to stand still during that duration so your marksman stacks dont expire
aaaaan
who gives a shit
at that point
vital saddle
and use shout rather than stance
frank ether
might aswell play mk1
median jetty
Anyone got any tips to make this shovel better?
vital saddle
Anyone got any tips to make this shovel better?
the maniac dmg isnt ideal but u can put uncanny strike on it with ur skullcrusher
junior needle
You typically want uncanny/deci, but skullcrusher deci can also work although you won't have rending
vital saddle
then put + flak dmg on it 😄
junior needle
You can try both, hammerblow is a definite replace as well as block efficiency for flak
vital saddle
just make sure u heavy more than u light attack seeing as u have skull crusher