veteran-class

[still nacelle]

Damage > Stopping Power >Stability> Charge rate (about 71%) > Ammo ?

[placid portal]

Damage= Stopping Power =Charge time

Stability and ammo is bottom imo since lucius is super stablr

If you have to rank it

1. Damage/Stopping Power
2. Charge Speed
3. Ammo
4. Stability

But tbh ammo and stability is both dump imo

[stiff pasture]

Lucius mk3 if you don’t build into it has horrendous ammo economy

[placid portal]

Shock troopa is an easy solution

Had runs without picking ammo and still had plenty to spare

[stiff pasture]

Is this with all the lasgun perks?

[placid portal]

Ye

All lasguns benefit shocktroopa

Even laspistol but not mandatory

[stiff pasture]

That’s what I mean

[bold ibex]

motherfucker

[placid portal]

I mean if you're gonna use lucius it's basically investing into marksmen

[bold ibex]

i guess if I get atleast a kinda okay last blessing i can just redo the perks...

[stiff pasture]

Hadron strikes again

[placid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-throwing-brick-brick-cat-gif-9142560192559212520

[bold ibex]

why do weapons even have the chance for +stamina

it's clear garbage

[magic warren]

what blessings do you even want on columnus btw

i have a mk5 with a tier 4 deathspitter blessing but idk if that's any good for it LOL

[placid portal]

• stamina kinda neat on lucius at times

[bold ibex]

deathspitter and firefrenzy

[placid portal]

Dum dum is nice

Raking fire if going sneaky

[magic warren]

I see I see

[fresh mango]

this worth upgrading?

[placid portal]

I would prefer dum dum fire frenzy but raking is big money

[magic warren]

also is make every shot count still bugged? looking to try and finally finish off my last two redacted penances

[placid portal]

Rip ammo xp

[fresh mango]

Itll be fiiine

[bold ibex]

at least after i get screwed on this one, brunt gave me another solid option.

also that isn't bad. though it's about 10% less max ammo

[magic warren]

gotta flex my current favorite gun real quick (i have no idea if this is decent, but it is fun to use)

[bold ibex]

well ofc

[bold ibex]

i want bad things to happen to you

:I

[magic warren]

Real and fair

[bold ibex]

That's what my gun would look like... IF HADRON HADNT SCREWED ME

[magic warren]

Hadron giveth and hadron taketh away...

[twilit crane]

Meltagun when?

[placid portal]

But she usually steal piece of the gun

[bold ibex]

never

[placid portal]

Double barrel shotgun thou

Close range special elite killer

[magic warren]

that would go hard

[placid portal]

Cue E1M1

[bold ibex]

you just want the super shotgun

[placid portal]

Yes

[bold ibex]

rip and tear until it's done

[placid portal]

Special action just unloads 2 shots

[shrewd sierra]

Can you bash with a bolter as Vet?

[placid portal]

Ye

Use to bully or push bursties

[magic warren]

my last two redacted penances are taunting me... i can feel them doing it they're pointing and laughing

[placid portal]

Dont care got eretics to kill

[shrewd sierra]

Love me shield, love me rock, love me emprah.
Hate 'eretics.
Simple as.

[magic warren]

real

I just wanna not look as doofy as i do rn (and also to feel the feel good chemicals from striking em off my list)

[placid portal]

Well better than grinding for gold crowns in MHW

[magic warren]

ooof yeah that is not the best grind LOL

[uncut acorn]

Anyone got a Lasgun build? Been wanting to try one when I figure out it's needed blessings.

[placid portal]

I have spent too long for basegame 100% achievement

[magic warren]

I still have yet to hunt fatalis or alatreon because a family "friend" stole my fuckin iceborne copy back before they came out

and even though i have the game on ps5 again i just don't have the will to do it anymore 😭

[placid portal]

Alatraeon do be a doozy

Peak reddit salt during day 1

[magic warren]

I think there's still salt about Fatalis isn't there?

[placid portal]

Meh

[magic warren]

God i can only imagine

[placid portal]

"Literally unbeatable"

Tbh imo I thinj alatraeon is probs the most fair attack moveset

[pure chasm]

[placid portal]

Nice

[magic warren]

oh yo!!!!

i still need to do that dumb ass challenge eventually

[placid portal]

Overwatch do be a doozy

[hollow turtle]

Bruh did a double. Give this man his Auric status.

[placid portal]

Nah dont wanna work under melk

[hollow turtle]

Lol.

[magic warren]

i think overwatch will plague me much more than not missing shots

[hollow turtle]

Shh.. That's why we throw him to Melk; so we don't have to.

[magic warren]

because that's comparatively much easier than never gettin smacked

[placid portal]

Well all you gotta be is super paranoid

Always block and check your back

[hollow turtle]

and not trust your teammates. XD

[magic warren]

I need to get a team willing to suffer with me i think LOL

I helped someone get it a month or so ago

[placid portal]

This, this is the truth

[pure chasm]

my mission just now was low intensity + fog + snipers lol

[placid portal]

I did it without knowing during a damnation run

[still nacelle]

Lucius MK3 is better than MK1 right?

[placid portal]

[placid portal]

Depends

On carapace yes

But mk1 has better bayonet spam

But mk3 does have decent default sights

[neat sluice]

Finally got the 15 missions no downs penance

Vet felt great for the difficulty of it

[still nacelle]

oh ok

[neat sluice]

Will they do a second vet rework or are we just fucked in our state till the end of the games lifespan?

[placid portal]

With right build you can out down crushers in less than 2 shots

Not sure

Part 2 traitor curse in on the way so one can hope

[neat sluice]

"Opps we fucked it up on part 1 so we unfucked it in part 2"

Hopefully

[placid portal]

Clearly we are coping

[junior grail]

I don't know why I'm so scared to hope.

Its always like this with 40k content

[neat sluice]

Vermintide is an amazing game

This company is capable to do some dope shit with this game

We will see

[junior grail]

After a long string of fuckups

[magic warren]

i'm gonna give this challenge another shot (haha god i'm funny) so wish me luck fellow vets 🙏

[junior grail]

May the God Emperor bless you with good teamwork

[placid portal]

Trust words of cutthroat vet trust no one

[junior grail]

Even the cutthroat vet

[placid portal]

Wait

[hollow turtle]

There is no luck here in Atoma. Only the God Emperor.

[placid portal]

This is a paradox

[junior grail]

warp portal opens

[placid portal]

Empra protects

[junior grail]

Ranalds Gift Darktide when?

[placid portal]

God now I fear daemon incursion is gonna be a thing

[hollow turtle]

I read that and thought.. "Ranald... Ran-... Rannick... Interrogator Rannick is Ranald!!!"

[junior grail]

Rannicks' Gift would be a nice mechanic

[hollow turtle]

Lol it would be honestly. Feel like we're one of his faves once we hit 30.

[junior grail]

He gives us a bonus based on how well we do, number of enemies killed, bosses killed, books carried

[placid portal]

Then he has alot of favorites

[ember coyote]

Ive been TRYING TO GET THAT BISH FOR DAYS

[placid portal]

[ember coyote]

Good job

[hollow turtle]

He equally has as many unfaves.

[placid portal]

[still nacelle]

LMAO that 35%

[junior grail]

Rannick laughed, a BIG BELLIED LAUGH

[ember coyote]

I just saw someone named Sigmar Male too on this game, funny lad

[hollow turtle]

Oh. Forgot we got the Vanguard gear today.

[placid portal]

Grendell is ded yes?

[ember coyote]

Spoilers

[placid portal]

No just speculation

[ember coyote]

Hm?

[placid portal]

Sigmar male grindset

[junior grail]

Rannick killed Grendell, he is a Tzerntch worshipper. Thats why hes fighting Nurgle so hard

[placid portal]

Tell the heretics to sugmar balls

[hollow turtle]

Some free cosmetics for the PC community I believe.

[ember coyote]

Feck

Im an xbox player

Nuuuuuuuuu

[placid portal]

Lol rip

[junior grail]

Xbox got aquilas

A while back

[hollow turtle]

Its all right. It was meant to balance out some mistreatment in the beginning. Xbox players got Aquilas

I think this was FS way of apologizing to PC.

[dapper vessel]

the backpack is really nice

[hollow turtle]

There's a backpack!!???

AH YEAH

[junior grail]

Nice big thick package, just the way I like em

[hollow turtle]

Totally Krieg style backpack

[magic warren]

was gonna go into a mission but some guy had their mic on open mic and was just heavy breathing and repeating back the mission debriefing in a mocking voice. I think i will simply try darktide again tomorrow

[hollow turtle]

The shovel matches it perfectly

[karmic musk]

Some Xbox players got it too

Think you need to login to DT on Gamepass?

[south prairie]

The blue uniform rolls in and suddenly everyone is a guardsman again

[karmic musk]

Grey camo backpack fits better

[hollow turtle]

That is a chunky backpack, but I like it.

[astral blade]

MG Ia infantry lasgun

is it good?

[hollow turtle]

I might be colorblind, but which ones the grey one? If you mean the Catachan pattern, it just looks blue to me.

[karmic musk]

The two Comissary backpacks, one is grey the other is green camo

[hollow turtle]

Is that grey?! Shoot I'm gaslighting myself here.. Do I need to get my eyes checked?

[astral blade]

imma just take a stab in the dark and guess its good

[karmic musk]

yes

[karmic musk]

Better than XII now

[dapper vessel]

yeah theres also frames that you get

and an insignia

[gleaming adder]

All the better, tired of everyother squadmate I see coming in to a drop in poloshirt and cargopants

[junior grail]

Yuppers

[hollow turtle]

I knew this mask would be a good investment.

[junior grail]

That i did NOT know, gotta check it out

[junior grail]

That pink gun though

[gleaming adder]

Its snow camo, not pink

[hollow turtle]

For the record, that's not a modded For the Drip appearance lasgun.

Totally pink if you believe it to be.

[fresh mango]

I think that’s the arctic waste camo?

[junior grail]

I still dont know how to get For The Drip mod

[fresh mango]

it’s in the discord

[hollow turtle]

It was a twitch drop back in the early days.

[gleaming adder]

To sound pretentious, it is. Aquila on the upper reciever and different holosight marks it as modded

WAIT WHAT

[fresh mango]

I just wish they’d add a pure black camo and a pure white camo

those would be awesome

[hollow turtle]

Lol you're talking weapon customization. I'm talking camo.

[junior grail]

Mod discord? I don't know where it is

[gleaming adder]

😭

[fresh mango]

Oh i can’t make invites to it, i’m sure there is one somewhere

oh it’s in #📌communities

[hollow turtle]

It's all right. You just went ogryn there for a second.

[fresh mango]

There we go

[gleaming adder]

Cant wait to hop into darktide tonight and see the ebtire 21st moebian doing something other than garrison duty

[junior grail]

You mean Darktide Modders?

[fresh mango]

yeah?

it’s in there

[junior grail]

I'm already in

[fresh mango]

look up For The Drip and sort by oldest

[junior grail]

Tried searching couldnt find

Will try again

[hollow turtle]

For the Drip #1048318548180738118 message

[fresh mango]

beat me to it haha

anyway, i just like the helmet, armors alright

[south prairie]

im not a mask kinda guy so i run the uniform with goggles

i miiiiiiight get myself the vox backpack

[flat pebble]

is that the metal one

[hollow turtle]

Big radio backpack

The one the mechanicus mistakes for a toaster sometimes.

[flat pebble]

that one’s rad i’ve been running that one for a minute on my humans

[gleaming adder]

Anyone realized the reason the 21st flak vest shoulder pad is raised is because they used the model for the tall plasma gunner in the teaser? They wanted him to look lorger than the rest Ig

[flat pebble]

looks insane on my zealot who is just wearing a terrycloth shirt with leather straps

[hollow turtle]

He feels skinnier, but with large shoulder bulk

[gleaming adder]

Bro only worked the show muscles

No leg day

[hollow turtle]

He's hiding it in the moon boots.

[astral blade]

ugh why the hell are people so stupid to pick up fucking grimoires

[urban steppe]

what i need to change here

[gleaming adder]

Milk.

[astral blade]

that shit ain't worth picking up on damnation those

i mean if ya gonna do the melk contracts that involve grimoires do that shit on fragging malice

[gleaming adder]

With guys here running auric for breakfast by the look of things they're guessing that damnation is easy enough for a grimoire grab

Then again, I dont talk to my team often, they all speak cantonese

[astral blade]

different servers chap

most oceana players are flaming dog shit anyways

[placid portal]

Grimoires? Usuay dont pick up bad book

[frank ledge]

Grims are never worth it

People that auric daily have enough ordo dockets to buy everything 3 to 4 times over

And Melkies are in my case stockpiled hard because he never has anything worthwile

[placid portal]

Not like grimoires affect loot drop

And the bonus credit aint so big no?

[frank ledge]

It ain't

[slender turtle]

Whats the difference between the helbores?

mk 1 and 2

nvm

[placid portal]

Lol

Found out quickly?

[slender turtle]

too tired

[placid portal]

Rip

[slender turtle]

Alright better querstion, which is the one people use mainly?

[placid portal]

Mk2 or 1

Mk2 offers more pew pew

[slender turtle]

3 too slow?

[placid portal]

But need maniac for breakpoints

[placid portal]

Well for some yes but it's bc the baynet kinda tough to use compared to mk 1 and 2

Mk3 can 2 tap or even 1 tap crushers and maulers

With right build ofc

[slender turtle]

Hmm ill see what 1 can do

[placid portal]

0.70 base charge speed but can lower with onslaught blessing

Also bayonet stab is better than shooting them if up close

[slender turtle]

No headhunter

a shame

[languid escarp]

wait does the augmented version of an aura and a class's basic aura stack?

[remote osprey]

Yes

[placid portal]

No

It replaces it outright

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-gif-25645320

[fresh mango]

well

[gritty dock]

There are also those who like to read.
I like to look at the green cover of Grims when I'm in the elevator. 😉

[alpine pebble]

id be nice if only the player that picked it up was affected by the health loss

god damn books

[placid portal]

Pick up book, stinky
Activate book, no longer stinky

[fresh mango]

what blessing do i replace no respite with?

[gritty dock]

You just need to get 1 good thing and it's a cool toy.

[fresh mango]

whats thegood thing?

[gritty dock]

One good Blessing or Perk, becouse you can change next 2 of them.

[languid escarp]

ok so these guys friggin took my nades, didn't use them for horde clear while fighting boss, and tried to fight an assassination boss by backing up into a corner with fallable edge

that was a waste of time

[zealous wyvern]

i did not eve know there was an assassination boss with a cliff

which one is that

[fresh mango]

throneside

far left side

[languid escarp]

yeah

no idea how that happened

but 2 of my teammates fell off the cliff

[zealous wyvern]

crazy

i never noticed

[solar bone]

Meh is this a pickup? Melk got it

[zealous wyvern]

60 sp, not 80 dmg, no 4perks and idk those blessings goodness

if you need a lasgun sure

[languid escarp]

target stagger is a minus on ranged weapons

[zealous wyvern]

if you are just browsing i would not buy unless you want to complete blessibgs

[solar bone]

Mmmm

I wasnt aware infernus was that great

but

idk

probably pass

ty

[languid escarp]

infernus is rather niche

[solar bone]

Mmm its only melk points, should I just pick it up incase they buff it maybe?

infernus that is

meh screw it

i gets

[indigo needle]

wow they gave us a new helmet, but without the helmet

[weak hamlet]

Yeah it's called a mask

[astral blade]

brick or not?

[weak hamlet]

Keep it

Get rid of block efficiency and put flak/carapace/whatever you like on it

[languid escarp]

screw you

asking if it's brick when it's got PC4

[weak hamlet]

And put Brutal Momentum instead of slaughterer 1

[astral blade]

dont have that yet lol

[weak hamlet]

Well to be fair it's an MK3 so it's still shit in the grand scheme of things

[languid escarp]

can still get it as a modification

[weak hamlet]

When compared to the MK6 I mean

[languid escarp]

and apply on the PS6

[weak hamlet]

Yeah ofc

[astral blade]

soooo earn blessing instead?

[alpine pebble]

mk3 or mk4 powa sword whats the best?

[languid escarp]

you can keep it until you get a good PS6 roll

[languid escarp]

whats mk4 PS

[alpine pebble]

Munitorum Mk VI Power Sword

[languid escarp]

that should be IV

do you even latin number bro?

[alpine pebble]

https://warhammer-40k-darktide.fandom.com/wiki/Munitorum_Mk_VI_Power_Sword

[weak hamlet]

VI is 6

4 is IV

[alpine pebble]

not gonan lie, im kinda rarted

[weak hamlet]

Amer*can moment

[astral blade]

i'm more of a chainsword guy if i'm being honest

[languid escarp]

same

[alpine pebble]

🇮🇹

[astral blade]

so i'll just earn blessing

[weak hamlet]

Yeah Power Cycler 2 is an instant earn

[astral blade]

oh before i forget that roll that you seen in that ss was from brunt shop

[weak hamlet]

You're entitled to your inferior taste

[astral blade]

not the armory

[astral blade]

meh might be inferior but at least i can kill mutants pretty easily with chainsword special action

[languid escarp]

to be fair powered PS 2 shot mutants

[astral blade]

just to add salt to the wound i have this also

[wintry raptor]

need advice, what should i do if im getting attacked by the horde + 2 ragers? hold block and hope it wont break untill they finish combo?

using this

[midnight mortar]

Block and kite them by dodging backwards.

[languid escarp]

yeah

[midnight mortar]

The mk6 has block cost reduction so if you're managing stamina properly, this shouldn't be a problem.

[languid escarp]

do not dodge to left or right

[astral blade]

yes yes curse me all you like

[languid escarp]

ragers have very good tracking

[wintry raptor]

so no way to resolve it offensively?

[alpine pebble]

you keep hitting a mofo untill they stop moving

[wintry raptor]

like poke em in the eye or something

[alpine pebble]

while not getting hit yerself

[midnight mortar]

Well, one energized hit will stagger them.

It's just something you have to time and weave in.

[languid escarp]

as far as I'm aware of as Vet you can't really solo ragers well, with catachan being the exception of course

[astral blade]

why stagger a rager when ya can just gun em down

[languid escarp]

assuming CQC also

[wintry raptor]

horde was too dense to notice them before too late

[midnight mortar]

Because I was answering a question someone else asked about dealing with them with the mk6 power sword.

[wintry raptor]

but its niche situation i understand

[weak hamlet]

Two power sword slashes at a mutant and it's ded

[astral blade]

meh i always throw my shredder nades into a horde

most of them die and the ones that dont just bleed out

how it go "the only bonny mutant is a dead one"

[south prairie]

I tried going marksman with a lasgun in celebration of the guardsman uniform

It did not go exactly well

[rotund prism]

Have to flex my stabby now

[frank ledge]

mk6 can push attack 1 shot muties

[gleaming turtle]

What do I do with this?

[astral blade]

Nice

[umbral scaffold]

This pistol put in work in the name of the Emperor, Fucking head shots left n right

[placid portal]

Nice

[weak hamlet]

y no hand cannon

[iron marten]

y no surgical

[alpine pebble]

y no custom barrel

[south prairie]

y no scope

[stoic birch]

y no plasma gun

[median belfry]

are they nerfing columnus infantry autogun anytime soon, guardsmen?

[trim hemlock]

It’s not like FS would be sharing this before it is done, but it is probably an over-performing gun.

[median belfry]

I feel like being able to smoke crushers as quickly as a plasma gun shot Might Be a Little Overtuned

albeit I have Loads of fun with it

[midnight mortar]

Don't worry. The plasma gun will likely be nerfed too.

Along with the revolver.

[median belfry]

next patch, vet is only left with the power sword

[grand sable]

you now have the cannonical guardsman experience next patch

[median belfry]

ngl, I'm down

[trim hemlock]

And… like 6 other perfectly usable weapons?

[median belfry]

make vet the roguelike class

[median belfry]

nah, sword only. leaves the rest of the playerbase something to be jelly of

[trim hemlock]

PS6 is certainly a bit busted, though

I will be happy so long as Vraks 3 HHAG remains as is

[median belfry]

same but for my basic 296 dmg per shot infantry lasgun

[limber lance]

Because the gaming industry is so hell bent on making perfectly balanced games not fun ones

[trim hemlock]

The problem with Plasma Gun is that it has the 100 cleave mass value right out of nowhere

There’s no good reason for it to have that much cleave

[frank ether]

It feels like a bit of a fomo buff to me

[trim hemlock]

Maybe on fully charged shots, but if regular shots have 100 cleave mass, it’s a problem

[limber lance]

Ive actually never used it, im more worried about a revolver nerf

[frank ether]

if plasma shares recon's fate next patch I'm gonna mentally confirm that its fomo balancing

[rugged moon]

I smell the plague ogryn, he wants the scattergun

https://tenor.com/view/the-shield-vic-mackey-shotgun-shots-fired-fxnetworks-gif-14172041

[near flume]

Doesn't it kinda make sense for the Plasma lorewise to have that much cleave? that's a good enough reason for me for it to be buff as hell ingame, I'd kinda like to see each class eclusive weapon to be like a highlight to each class EX: Evis, Flamer, Plasma, PS, etc.

[nimble sentinel]

It's certainly not the worst, not perfect but serviceable. Get your headshots blessings and this will kill any heretic with a gun, though struggle a bit with ragers and mutants

[rugged moon]

playing as a veteran with a ogryn mindset is amazing

[woeful ibex]

new skins

[umbral flint]

what is this

is this what i waited for?

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-angry-erect-spongebob-movie-gif-20382462

[nimble sentinel]

zealots taking all our jerbs with those guns out

[unreal bone]

Veteran shop rotation

5 reskins

[opal dove]

[unreal bone]

Not even a good reskin tbh

[opal dove]

So many armies, so many epic characters, so many books and references... 5 reskins

I would pay gladly for new and cool things

[unreal bone]

I'm fine with a reskin if it's good tbh

like

there is a reskin variant that hasn't been release of the Militarum Battlegear

It comes in Dark Green plates and light green cloth

instead of red plates and red tigerstripe cloth

The reskin of this set.

I WANT that set idc that it's a reskin, it's a GOOD reskin.

That is like the exact image of what a guardsmen looks like in my mind--Ranger Green w/ Olive Drab clothing.

[whole moon]

It's not a bundle of rags and you don't have to use em.

[unreal bone]

The moebian set isn't that bad.

It's certainly better than the set that just appeared in the shop for vets.

And it's free.

[untold mulch]

The monkey paw furls

[nimble sentinel]

I got the piss coat, I’m happy

[umbral flint]

i was hoping it would have been more... not made of mostly rags

[unreal bone]

I like the veteran set, my only complaint with the moebian sets is how they fucked up the zealot one.

How do you forget to color the zealot set pieces the same color.

[bold sierra]

honestly, maybe I'll buy the vet's set, I like the green color sorta

[whole moon]

No one's forcing you to wear em --shrug-- if the look bothers you that much take yourself to Hallowettes.
Ive been doing missions in prison garb recently

[unreal bone]

Not worth it imo but you do you

[opal dove]

Yes. It looks good. I get the recolors and repeating rotations. They need to put effort in story content, maps, game balance and more... But hey, cosmetics are a huge and important income source for FS (I think?). It would be nice to see something new knowing how many characters and armies we have out there

[unreal bone]

It's supposed to be a Catachan reskin.. The Guerilla jungle fighters that use a lot of camo.

Except it literally only has like 2 feet of camo coverage.

[iron marten]

Give me the punishment uniforms without the chains pls

[bold sierra]

Catachan reskin? if you meant the one that came with that old shotgun skin from way back then sure, I never bought it tho

[unreal bone]

Cosmetics will be a very important source of income if they plan to keep the game updates free.

[unreal bone]

Yeah.

[bold sierra]

wasn't a fan of it back then bc of the camo tbh, but I kinda dig this camo

[unreal bone]

The old Commando battlegear

You dig the camo on the new one cause it doesn't have any. XD

The chest plate is camo and that's it.

[bold sierra]

wym, it clearly has camo ?

[opal dove]

Is not the way they did with Vermintide 2. Paid content + tons and tons of paid cosmetics. I think the content came with cosmetics too, right?

[bold sierra]

the brgiht green stuff?

[unreal bone]

Only on the chestplate.

[bold sierra]

I honestly wouldnt want it covering everything that's for sure

[unreal bone]

This is the only camo on the entire set.

What's the point of camoflauge if you don't use it to camoflauge. 🤣

[bold sierra]

plus, that pants look it could mix with some other stuff

[nimble sentinel]

This is the imperium of Man, if the STC says camouflage then its heretical to not use it

[bold sierra]

idk, I couldnt care less tbh xD, camo is for drip

personal drip

[unreal bone]

Don't get me wrong I agree with you.

But I want more than just 2 square feet of coverage.

And the stone gray pants it comes with. 🤮

Ah yes jungle fighters what do they need.. Concrete color pants.

I'm just still salty about how Fatshark couldn't even bother to make the Zealot Moebian set all be the same color.

[south spindle]

Yes, I am a totally normal and well respected guardsman

[unreal bone]

🤣

[opal dove]

Jungle camo in Atoma. Let's go.

[bold sierra]

tbf, lore of this set doesnt really say he's been jungle fighting

more or less for styles

[nimble sentinel]

Ah yes, a devout worshipper of the emperor with the regular amount of arms

[untold mulch]

Define how many are regular

[whole moon]

Cba to make the meme but...
Hello fellow guardsmen

[delicate moat]

am i going crazy or have the new skins in rotation appeared before

[amber cliff]

Some are reskins yeah

[opal dove]

Some?

😄

[amber cliff]

Yeah ogryn is new and so is zealot

[opal dove]

Ogryn looks cool

[amber cliff]

Ogryn goes hard yes

[nimble sentinel]

Horus Heresy took one of them so....three?

[south spindle]

We'll go with three yeah...

[unreal bone]

I'll be happy when this set eventually comes out.. I mean it got leaked 10 months ago the fact we haven't seen it yet is fucking astonishing.

I'm starting to think it's NEVER coming out.

[nimble sentinel]

Ah, beans 💀

[median belfry]

ah shidd, I don't buy cosmetics in games but the Generic Cadian set makes me reconsider..

[unreal bone]

I mean it was leaked 10 months ago and we still haven't seen it.

There is a possibility it is never coming out.

maybe even 11 months ago tbh.

[south spindle]

Same story for Zealot's back-book

[median belfry]

tfw can't be disposable rank and file cannonfodder

[south spindle]

Why can't we have nice things

[unreal bone]

Idk cause Fatshark just doesn't like making things easier for themselves?

It took them how long to do Krieg? And while I'm not a big krieg-boy.. Krieg obv is one of the most popular guard regis.

Same as Cadian.

[frank ledge]

too many sets are cod like

too much camo

where are my plain armors

[unreal bone]

The camo usage imo depends on the guard regiment.

[nimble sentinel]

common Steel Legion W, got our fit in the second rotation and the drip has been immaculate since

[frank ledge]

90% of sets released use a camo patern

[nimble sentinel]

get bent Wehraboos

[frank ledge]

It should be acloser 40/60 split

[unreal bone]

Steel Legion is my favorite.

Although I've stopped wearing the Steel Legion outfits.

In place of this.. I like the CHONK the Militarum Battlegear has.

[frank ledge]

See

this armor

would look better if the underclothes were a plain cadia like mono color

instead of having tiger stripes only in the underclothes for no apparent reason

Cod Syndrome

[unreal bone]

Yeah I agree but like I said it's been like 10 or 11 months since the flat color version of that set was leaked.

For all we know they could've scrapped it in place of the red tigerstripe one.

[frank ledge]

doesn't make the decision to ruin so many sets with camo

[unreal bone]

Ik

But I'm starting to think they actually scrapped the green version of this set

[frank ledge]

I HOPE that our actual cadian armor doesn't come with camo

[unreal bone]

for the red one.

[frank ledge]

🤮

[unreal bone]

I'm thinking they scrapped this set.

[frank ledge]

could have just

save it for another content drought

and just sell recolors meanwhile

in true fatshark fashion

[unreal bone]

I mean.. The reason I think they did that is

[frank ledge]

The current veteran armor is a recolor of our commando set

[unreal bone]

lemme show you

you see that green flak helmet?

[frank ledge]

yes

[unreal bone]

The black one also conviently has an ace of spades, but on the back. Almost like they recolored from green to black and moved the decal.

[frank ledge]

Ye nothing new, fatshark loves to resell recolors

[unreal bone]

Yes but they don't often recycle decals.

[frank ether]

fatshark's bribery to make you release the pearls

I'd stop clutching them if they stopped selling recolors and just gave us decent color options

[umbral scaffold]

Greetings fellow Veterans. Have you praised the God Emperor today?

[frank ether]

like be nice and I'll be nice too

[unreal bone]

Cadian tanker fit?

Tank commander*

[nimble sentinel]

Hot take: I love y’all but you definitely need to read some more Marcus Aurelius. The whales dictate how things get monetized and that’s not us. Take the stoicism pill and make due with what you got/what you can get

[frank ledge]

Nah I'll just leave my negative review till Ogryn heavy armor is back in the shop

And encourage everyone to do so

so next rotation we get armoredgryn

[frank ether]

Its not taking a stoic pill to hide your distaste for a system thats outright insulting

Yes it makes them whale money

that doesn't make it morally any better you know

[unreal bone]

Bruh I'm not asking Fatshark to perform miracles, just to put atleast 10% effort into their designs. 😔

Like how tf did they color the Moebian Zealot set pieces the wrong colors.

[frank ether]

you know a lot of mmos also are kept afloat by whales

[nimble sentinel]

Of course not

[frank ether]

but its how you do it that matters imo

From the top of my brain warframe and guild wars 2 are games I could give example to

as games kept alive by whales

but they don't do it in a revolting way

[nimble sentinel]

Fkn love guild wars 2

[frank ether]

and these are f2p games

[gleaming adder]

wait a minute...

[frank ether]

heck yea I've been having so much fun with it, and the fashion is awesome

certain pieces being locked behind loot crates sucks but even then the game gives you ways to grind for them

[nimble sentinel]

A UK based 9 to 5 sadly leaves me out of the NA event scheduling but I gotta revisit one of these days

[unreal bone]

I pray to the Emperor that your uniform pants will match your uniform top one day.

[nimble sentinel]

Gold-to-gems should be the standard in cash shops imo

[frank ether]

I'm on the EU part of stuff and yea time is a bit of an issue

but lately I've been playing it for the experience

rather than the grind

I've even gotten good at PvE

gw2 gotta be the only mmo where I can do good rotations and stuff

because its not a rotation that consists of like 30 different skills

[nimble sentinel]

darn, woulda suggested roaming around together

I wish I could transfer from NA to EU

[gray sun]

last time I started warframe I was told to kill myself cause I didn't have a warframe that could sprint through the entire level
(just buy a good frame lol)
game overall is very good, but you really need to watch out for what people you meet

[frank ether]

lol there are always ppl like that

[nimble sentinel]

speak for yourself I'm an engi main lol

[frank ether]

holosmith or scrapper?

scrapper felt relatively easy to me but holosmith is oof

[gray sun]

yep
I also met someone that said I am sabotaging the lobby because I play a shotgun in darktide

altough I don't think that shotguns are that bad

[sharp ember]

literally steamrolled an auric with 2 shotgunners

one lawbringer one agripinaa

[frank ether]

I play a sylvari condizerk that I themed properly as a fire archer cause lets be honest condi berserk is basically fire archer

[unreal bone]

Bruh darktide is a game where skill > gear

Best gun in the game doesn't matter if you just get domed by a sniper and sit on the floor.

[nimble sentinel]

scrapper can get quite heavy on the keyboard piano to keep 100% quickness, before phasing out I was getting into a HAM build

[gray sun]

I love my agripinaa casually sniping a sniper with a shotgun will never be not funny

[frank ether]

yeah APM is kinda high if you want to play at a meta level, but honestly its not too bad I feel like

once you get used to it

it starts to get really addictive

[umbral scaffold]

Game director deciding if you live or die > Skill > Levels > Gear

[nimble sentinel]

heck yeh

[gray sun]

but I think I should actually start trying to get decent blessings and such for my shotgun

[main ermine]

Curious, for builds, you guys going into keystones or just focusing on certain stuff

[river escarp]

The meobian 21st skins are in my inventory are they safe to equip ?

[nimble sentinel]

4 foot tall super geniuns swinging a hammer twice his size and throwing pokeballs robots at every problem, good shit

[frank ether]

charr?

[umbral scaffold]

No, do not under any circumstance equip them or you'll get banned

[sharp ember]

i've been running scattershot flechette on lawbringer, funny mowing down hordes and elite packs with 100% crit bleeds

[nimble sentinel]

Asura, charr are like 9 feet

[frank ether]

oh right

I'm not familiar with murrican measurement

[gray sun]

any specific perks to go for ?

[frank ether]

lol

[river escarp]

Just imagine that they remove them because you have to pay for them and half of my characters just crash on enter

[nimble sentinel]

am Canadian, metric and imperial are so oddly mixed together

[river escarp]

What metric do you use to measure you genitalia ?

[frank ether]

I like the overal race design in gw2 a lot, all except norn I think

[umbral scaffold]

If you have it, you can use it. Unless you somehow got it on console in which case have a seat.

[sharp ember]

flak + maniac like usual, but i wouldn't scoff at unarmored if you get stuck with that

[unreal bone]

Cadian Tank Commander fit go hard

[sharp ember]

perks are important for increasing your bleed damage ticks

[umbral scaffold]

That's a handsome man.

[unreal bone]

That's a woman.

[gray sun]

will try to remember it, thanks

[river escarp]

Imperial cuz it got more numbers

[sharp ember]

that's a guardsman

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/mhm-mhmm-sure-thing-sure-doubt-gif-22192499

[umbral flint]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-uncanny-canny-stare-art-gif-17702430052009629225

[frank ether]

I'll release the pearls just a tiny bit

I like the mask

[umbral scaffold]

Didn't know they added ratlings to the game

[frank ether]

really I'm just angry about color matching being impossible

[nimble sentinel]

short king supremacy!

[sharp ember]

no cosmetic painting

thought gw would be snapping their jaws at fatshark to put in armor painting so they could name them after their own paint colors

[umbral scaffold]

I hate this hair so much, broccoli heads 🥦

[sharp ember]

purchaseable at your local hobby shop

[umbral scaffold]

Confidential video, do not let Fatshart know

[bright coyote]

zoom

[frank saffron]

Yo guys what stats should i be looking for in a shovel

[unreal bone]

I tried the shovel.

Was not impressed.

[nimble sentinel]

High damage, mobility is a dump stat, try and keep everything else as close to or above 70% as possible

[frank saffron]

I have a near 80 stat on everything except penetration

[languid escarp]

heretical behavior

[nimble sentinel]

can yo uscreenshot?

[frank saffron]

Penetration is only like 57

[frank saffron]

Uh cant rn im not home sadly

[nimble sentinel]

all good

[nimble sentinel]

You're gonna suffer on carapace and flak but if the perks and blessings are good then it should be serviceable

[frank saffron]

Damn unfortunate

Perks and blessings i should go for to salvage it?

[unreal bone]

Man so sad I almost got a DREAM roll on my fav gun.

Flip that ammo and mob stat around.

would've been perf

[frank ether]

what did you use

[frank saffron]

And then for the perks?

Flak and unarmored?

[whole moon]

how is the Agri HH? Feel like this might be a decent Brunt

[ivory aurora]

That’s a decent base. I’m personally not a fan of the gun. It could also be that I’m not using in correctly or something.

[whole moon]

meh, it can join the ranks of the other 'hopefuls' in my inventory. Cheers

[frank ether]

the roll you got is good as for the gun itself its... ok

certainly not as elevated as vraks guns

but still easy recoil

[ivory aurora]

The high ammo pool is nice tho.

[frank ether]

just been collecting dust for me after making a good vraks 3

[sterile phoenix]

Gonna repost this real quick; is it worth upgrading to orange to see if there’s a chance?

[frank ether]

nah, low stopping power, unfavorable perks, tier 1 blessing

[nimble sentinel]

Flak and Maniac are the go-tos

[frank ether]

just start over unless you're fishing for tier 4 blessings

[nimble sentinel]

sorry for the delay, I am working and just had the mother of all talkers on the phone

[frank saffron]

Oo i see no problem

[frank ether]

also try to get high stopping power on your next roll its very important for these guns

[frank saffron]

I appreciate you fellow lasgun enthusiast

[nimble sentinel]

[frank ether]

on second thought it might be salvageable if your next upgrade got you deadly accurate or headhunter/surgical but odds of that is rather low

[sterile phoenix]

I’ll think about it. For now I guess I’ll just keep with my plasma gun

[south prairie]

maximum slav engaged

[unreal bone]

Would this be an okay accatran?

[zealous wyvern]

i do not think good accatrans exist?

[unreal bone]

So what should I replace on this lasgun? Obv I want the 100% weakspot damage blessing.

[nimble sentinel]

Head hunter as well, more crit chance on every headshot

[unreal bone]

So just leave the perks as is?

And go for 2 blessing fixes?

Deadly and Headhunter?

[nimble sentinel]

ideally you want both blessings and flakiac, but elite + crit chance aren't bad

th blessings are what make the las

[unreal bone]

Almost like what I run on my XII

except it's Flakpace

And IV HH instead of III

[nimble sentinel]

pretty much yeh, those blessings are maybe a tad too cracked

aim in the general vicinity of a head, and click away

[low wadi]

what perks blessings and dumpstat for plasma?

[unreal bone]

Mmm plasma..

Good luck with that.

[nimble sentinel]

if my memory is correct, some blessings actually work best with low heat tolerance\

[unreal bone]

You want a 73% charge rate exactly to help mitigate fatshark's spaghetti code for starters @low wadi

So you want your charge rate to have a little dump stat

[rocky jacinth]

without those blessings I'd see no reason to use a lasgun over autoguns

[unreal bone]

Charge rate affects damage because spaghetti code

too high you lose damage

too low you low damage

[low wadi]

lol

[nimble sentinel]

why 73?

[unreal bone]

Idk I didn't make the code.

[low wadi]

you actuelly need 73 exactly+ 😄

[unreal bone]

It's just the % that hurts you the least amount.

[rocky jacinth]

somebody post the chart

[unreal bone]

There is a chart pinned

in the pins

[nimble sentinel]

ballin

[unreal bone]

You want 73% charge rate if possible, while also getting as high of damage an stopping power as you can.

[delicate moat]

thanks Hadron for the nice brick

[fresh mango]

LETS KARKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO

[unreal bone]

Honestly I have no idea how to read that plasma gun charge rate chart.

[low wadi]

what addon is that that makes ur stats full?

[placid portal]

Nice

[delicate moat]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/235

[fresh mango]

[low wadi]

ty

[rugged portal]

Goos job. On Overwatch is the one Vet penance I have yet to get.

[fresh mango]

please hadron dont ruin my happiness

[delicate moat]

nice plasma, it'd be a shame if anything happened to it...

[fresh mango]

fuck i didnt have enough plasteel

[unreal bone]

21st Moebian Beta Company Vox Operator

[fresh mango]

the nose still clips for me

[unreal bone]

Never had clipping issues with my face.

[low wadi]

but what blessings and perks do u want for plasma

[fresh mango]

Not yet sure

[unreal bone]

Check the pins again

You can see BiS for every weapon vet has

in pins

[fresh mango]

if this thing bricks i WILL cry becuase ive wanted to do this look for so long

[low wadi]

oh sorry didnt see htat

[unreal bone]

Good luck.

[toxic leaf]

hadron be based

[versed merlin]

hey guys, quick question: what's the benefit of shredder autopistol? and laspistol? are there any benefits of running these two over revolver since they all seem to fall into the same category (quick pull and mobility)?

[south prairie]

Thats clipping?! Bruh i thought it was a hole in the balaclava until this very moment

[south prairie]

Just played laspistol, it seems to sit in the rabble clearing niche rather than elite killing

It is also quite accurate on hipfire

[versed merlin]

yeah it feels nice to use

[untold mulch]

Laspistol has silly crit and with shocktrooper silly ammo

[versed merlin]

only that there's no way to compare that to a revolver

[untold mulch]

because Revolver is overtuned af

[versed merlin]

either that

or laspistol is undertuned

idk about shredder autopistol tho

[untold mulch]

Imo, I don't think so, I can get some silly ttk with just bodyshots with the laspistol

[versed merlin]

but the most popular build in dartkide forums seems to be a autopistol zealot

[versed merlin]

what's ttk?

[untold mulch]

Time to kill

[south prairie]

My laspistol has dumdum and infernus so it does okay in the irritation department for the bigger ones

[versed merlin]

oh

[south prairie]

But unless theyre crushers and maulers the pistol does put in work

[fresh mango]

i love my laspistol..on a psyker

[versed merlin]

wait really? i had to get like 3-5 headshots to kill a gunner with it. had infernus on

[untold mulch]

Hell with onslaught -infernus-deadshot you can still put the hurt in crushers

[toxic leaf]

does charge rate affect damage in terms of raw numbers or is it something dumb like the server doesnt refresh fast enough

[untold mulch]

and maulers just body shot and they fall like bricks

[low wadi]

garbo?

[young sequoia]

useable

[toxic leaf]

very usable

[south prairie]

Yea i had those but i was running melee vet at that time so krak and axe were there for crusher duty

[versed merlin]

im not a specialist or anything, but imo its usable until you get a better one with better stopping power and around the same dmg

[untold mulch]

Ogryn? or human

[versed merlin]

human

[pale lotus]

I love laspistol

[pale lotus]

Mine is my baby

[untold mulch]

I don't remember how many hits it takes me on average

[versed merlin]

oh but i was not running a optimised build for guns, if tha's important to mention

[low wadi]

missing 4 plasteel

[versed merlin]

i was running melee focused vet, so i had no exec stance or deadshot or anything

[untold mulch]

Anyways, comparing "pistols" to the revolver is imo, not a good thing because Revolver is so overtuned

[versed merlin]

idk, they fall in the same category for me for being the only guns with quick pulls and fast mobility

[untold mulch]

I mean in the balance category

Revolver is overperforming too much imo

[toxic leaf]

wow you even got 25% unarmoured, you can afford to brick the last blessing if you have gets hot iv stored

[versed merlin]

that's the only reason i would pick one of these 3 if i ever had to

[pale lotus]

I dont like the revolver at all

[versed merlin]

i loved it

and its not even because it is op or not

[untold mulch]

Average PUG weaponry to me

[versed merlin]

just the aiming feels pretty good

laspistol too

man thats sad

[toxic leaf]

i like boltgun. fatshark pls cut ready time in half and ill use over plasma every day of the week

[versed merlin]

really

[dusk idol]

revolver moment

[untold mulch]

Its perfectly balanced,

[versed merlin]

i made a vraks build

but i see no point in using that

[dusk idol]

definitely not the best weapon in the game

not at all

[versed merlin]

when there's revolver around

[versed merlin]

its just better for many reasons

[pale lotus]

Seeing everyone sucking it off has only made me dislike it more

[simple basalt]

god vet skins kinda suck

[untold mulch]

fr

[dusk idol]

couldn't be that you just need to aim at specialists so long as they're not in cover and instantly get rid of them

nah

[toxic leaf]

they're all the same

[simple basalt]

90% is just you wearing a helmet

[versed merlin]

yeah thats kinda true tbh

[toxic leaf]

vet mtx is so boring

[simple basalt]

and the rest is just mix and match shit

[dusk idol]

have you seen the zealot skins

all i ever do on veteran is use a gasmask + whatever camo top i feel in the mood for

maybe today i'll be extra spicy and put on the bulky trench coat

[simple basalt]

lmfao

[toxic leaf]

is vet the one with the bison hat?

[simple basalt]

let me pick one of my 20 helmets to use

[dusk idol]

that's psyker

[versed merlin]

i like this everyone-uses-it-cap

[dusk idol]

what, you don't like the blue and white camo welding mask they gave us?

[simple basalt]

the only vet premium item i want is that google/neck gaiter thing

and ofc the store has fomo so i cant rn

[dusk idol]

i just want a tempestus scion skin

and i know it's basically a jacked up version of what we already have

but cmon, tempestus scion's are hella sick

[simple basalt]

lmao yea

[rugged portal]

We need some Tallaran, Valhallan and Mordian Iron Guard/Pretorian Guatd skins. Get us some hat variety.

[dusk idol]

give us a scab gunner skin

you know what i'd kill to look like that

wtf

[untold mulch]

I need it

[muted knot]

Get me a Tanith camo cloak and I'll be paying top dollae

[dusk idol]

give me this skin

[pale lotus]

I like the leather jacket and prosthetic leg combo

[dusk idol]

a hooded veteran clad in carapace armour? fuck me dead

[muted knot]

Skitarii is not very likely haha

[rugged portal]

I like the old Stormtrooper look imo.

[untold mulch]

I like both

[dusk idol]

i think initial plans were to have them as a subclass

these days, who knows

[untold mulch]

Would explain why we don't fold at the first barrage

[thick charm]

Ok, so, what to do here?
Volatile for Gets Hot?
(Running this on weapon specialist build)

[dusk idol]

i'm not a super big plasma expert outside of its bugs

i'd keep volatile and swap out shat impact though, personally

because of the charge rate bug affecting damage and thermal resist, volatile means you'll get a spike in damage (minor) and potentially an extra shot in your barrage from 0-100 heat

[radiant sedge]

Both perks are great, get the 2 good Blessings and you're good to go

You want Gets Hot and Blaze Away

[thick charm]

Why do I want blaze away on weapon specialist build? I'm constantly swapping it

[radiant sedge]

5 Stacks of Blaze away are better than weapon specialist

[dusk idol]

really its up to how you're playing with it, you'd probably get more out of a t4 perk than blaze away if you're swapping constantly

[celest vine]

Whats the new shop items?

Im not home so cant check

[dusk idol]

the cosmetics?

[radiant sedge]

Or You can get 2-3 shots off with weapon specialist still active, which is also better

[dusk idol]

they're shit

[celest vine]

Thats expected but im still curious

[fresh mango]

how bad is it doc

[dusk idol]

swap out crit hit damage and you'll be fine

[dusk idol]

can also swap out volatile

don't need it if you have 73% charge

[fresh mango]

for bis

[radiant sedge]

If you don't want Blaze Away, grab Gloryhunter

[fresh mango]

It has glory hunter

unless you mean kill it for glory hunter

[versed merlin]

wtf are these legs man

like why cant vet have normal pants and boots like everyone else?

[willow badger]

Chain leg

[dusk idol]

think he's talking about the other plasma gun

[fresh mango]

oh lol

sorry

[radiant sedge]

I wasn't answering yr weapon, but the one posted before

[willow badger]

Wait is the sniper hood for us vets?

[fresh mango]

no

[dusk idol]

change out volatile for gets hot or blaze away and crit hit damage for a perk of your chosing

[fresh mango]

it’s for zealot

[dusk idol]

and it's sweet

[versed merlin]

no

[willow badger]

Wtf

[dusk idol]

lmai

[willow badger]

What extra cosmetics do we have this week

[dusk idol]

o

fatshark giving vet a hood?

[versed merlin]

vets got this tho

[willow badger]

Eh

[versed merlin]

you wanted a scab gunner cosmetic? there you go

[dusk idol]

that's a dreg gunner

[willow badger]

I mean it's aight

[gentle heath]

are dmg stats accurate in the meat grinder?

[fresh mango]

Now they’re gonna add the hotshot lasgun

[willow badger]

What else we get

[fresh mango]

of course

[dusk idol]

yes?

[versed merlin]

ah idk which one is which

[dusk idol]

the only thing you don't get with base meat grinder is actual practicality of use in real combat

[versed merlin]

nothing else worth mentioning

everything else feels pretty much a reskin from already existing cosmetics

[crude wind]

Vet drip sucks as ever

[fresh mango]

I think i’ll go for unyielding and blaze away

[crude wind]

Ogryn big winner again

[dusk idol]

nice

[acoustic wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-towel-hidden-mask-chris-hemsworth-gif-10966939

[celest vine]

Wtf ghat is literal trash

[tiny pendant]

is there any consensus on best IAG for vet? Columnus seems best due to better per-shot damage but idk

[celest vine]

If isnt even the “so bad its good” kind of stuff

[dusk idol]

it's company policy that every 4 weeks one of their skins for each class is absolute dog tier

[acoustic wyvern]

can you handle the columnus recoil?

[celest vine]

Its literal garbage

[tiny pendant]

sry meant graia not column

[tiny pendant]

normally? hell no lol but that's what exc stance is for

[celest vine]

At least there was one ogryn cosmetic that was green and guys made ork named and frog ogryns

[placid portal]

It is very versatile

[dusk idol]

i like the goggles

but

[crude wind]

They're all technically the same however Columnus comes out trumps a lot of the time because it has the best close damage and most engagements in this game take place at that range

[fresh mango]

now to go through the pain of plasteel again

[placid portal]

reminds me of the time you get issued a cap from the army

[dusk idol]

they're just bloody goggles

[acoustic wyvern]

i would say the agripinna would be very good for you, nice recoil and biggest dmg per bullet

[versed merlin]

im deeply disappointed that you didnt mentioned shrek

[celest vine]

The camouflaged armageddon steel legionary was really good

[crude wind]

Graia feels the least applicable because it has super weird recoil

[celest vine]

Havent seen shrek yet

But ogre and ogryn are the same thing

[acoustic wyvern]

Graia's recoils is best ngl

[dusk idol]

just did this with mine on a similar-ish roll and got wrath III and rampage IV

it ain't perfect

[fresh mango]

i pray for that luck

[acoustic wyvern]

very easy to control

[dusk idol]

but she feels good

swapped out my shit perks for flakiac and she purrs

[crude wind]

i guess it's really want you feel comfortable with. I know the Columnus and Agri inside out and backwards so i feel very comfortable using those guns. There's something off with the moving recoil of the Graia that i don't like so I don't tend towards that one

[celest vine]

Fatshart just strapped bits of scrap metal and paper to the player model and called it a day

[dusk idol]

not even

[versed merlin]

yeah man

[dusk idol]

they just recoloured old assets and stuck them together as a new set

[versed merlin]

like these are massive let down

[tiny pendant]

ty for input, so there's no real standout good/bad just personal choice, that's exactly what I wanted to know tyvm

[versed merlin]

i was hoping they were cooking some cool skins

[fresh mango]

its.....close enough

[celest vine]

They cant just release the title screen cosmetics

[dusk idol]

the helmet is an old welder cosmetic, the torso is from the cadian skin line and the pants are just

what are they

[crude wind]

pretty much. If you want a lose guide:
CQB, aggressive playstyle - Columnus
Jack of all trades - Graia
Best over distance - Agri

[celest vine]

Add tje kreigerhelm with the rebreather

[crude wind]

there is overlap with all 3 though

[celest vine]

May look like title screen vet

[crude wind]

the hip fire on these guns is sick as well

do not neglect

[tiny pendant]

I certainly love the firerate on the column lol, it's extremely fun

[tiny pendant]

yeah the hipfire is shockingly stable compared to ADS

[crude wind]

up close you can pretty much go full hipfire

[celest vine]

Thats actually pretty damn close

The closest we will ever get

[crude wind]

which means despite its high fire rate the weapon really likes deadshot

[versed merlin]

might be holding those for a cosmetics pack dlc that costs triple the base game

[tiny pendant]

thankfully weapon custom makes the ADS actually useable by adding a reflex

[sharp ember]

i like the sound design on the graia, even if it lacks close range dps which columnus excels at

[dusk idol]

skitarii please, i wait for you

[celest vine]

Squats my beloved

[crude wind]

i hate the moon boots

[acoustic wyvern]

is robocop a skitarii

[versed merlin]

i mean, ill buy it even if they do that lmao

[crude wind]

yes

[fresh mango]

i think theyll add them with next patch as part of the new penance rewards and well get new guns as well and theyll buff vet keystones and and

[crude wind]

i don't think Vet's keystones are gonna be buffed. they're already very strong

[fresh mango]

lol

[crude wind]

the tree will likely get a look at though

[dusk idol]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-intro-awake-finally-awake-gif-22633549

[sharp ember]

skitarii radium carbines dealing corruption damage to your hp to fire

[fresh mango]

marksman focus is NOT good

[crude wind]

yes it is

[mystic belfry]

Yes it is

[tiny pendant]

if ur hitting ur shots it is

[low wadi]

so how do u use plasmagun anyway

[crude wind]

it takes guns that can't hit 1sbps

[tiny pendant]

simply click heads

[crude wind]

and makes them hit 1sbps

[fresh mango]

Ive never felt a difference with it at least

[tiny pendant]

very much like ur pfp, HOHO HAHA

[mystic belfry]

Mostly just hipfire regular shots

[crude wind]

use it with a Kantrael 1a

you will see exactly how good it is

[fresh mango]

Would love to see a build that makes it real good

[dusk idol]

you don't build for it

[mystic belfry]

Try Columnus with executioners stance and marksman

[dusk idol]

you just crouch dodge like you're hopped up on methamphetamines