Did they increase the spawn chances of nurgle blessing bosses?
#veteran-class
unreal bone
frank ledge
Why not just give veteran a missile launcher
unreal bone
2 Chaos spawns in a row both of them nurgle blessing
nimble sentinel
full immersion, 5% chance to become a demonhost
unreal bone
last auric maelstrom 2 daemonhosts in a row both nurgle blessing
That's 4 monstrosities in a row with nurgle blessing
whole moon
That's 4 monstrosities in a row with nurgle blessing
Yup that's their crit string 
frank ledge
Astra militarum un tabletop seem to love spamming weapon companies with then
unreal bone
Nah give vets a pump action grenade launcher like the China Lake, but let it shoot fragmentation grenades.
so it's different than ogryn nade launcher
nimble sentinel
Why not just give veteran a missile launcher
unreal bone
Why not just give veteran a missile launcher
I mean tbf that is basically a bolter is.
woven olive
vets with an RPG
and they will call it "heretics and heresy" and it will be the best damn table top rpg ev- what? oh OHHHHHHHHHH
unreal bone
Except rockets instead of missiles
frank ledge
whole moon
unreal bone
Also today I learned there are Guerilla Warfare Space Marines that use camoflauge.
woven olive
me after making that bad joke
frank ledge
I mean tbf that is basically a bolter is.
It's different, on tabletop bolters are armor piercing single target and have no movement penalties
Missile Launchers are hybrid for aoe or high tiughness targets depending on what you use, they suffer from movement tho
nimble sentinel
that will be my army of choosing
good choice
fun fact: you can paint your marines however you want
astral blade
its a wonder how there isnt a suggestion box for weapons lol
nimble sentinel
the tabletop is made specially that you can make your own chapter
whole moon
its a wonder how there isnt a suggestion box for weapons lol
Because all of the weapons are already listed in the codices of the base 40k experience
nimble sentinel
if ever I get into tabletop I'm making a guard army pray for my wallet
frank ledge
Would be awesome if instead of yet another stealth perk, we had vet deploy a heavt bolter or an autocannon
LMG MOUNTED AND LOADED -vet edition
astral blade
Because all of the weapons are already listed in the codices of the base 40k exp...
ahh i see
astral blade
LMG MOUNTED AND LOADED -vet edition
woven olive
the tabletop is made specially that you can make your own chapter
"and it is written here in the codex ast- oh fuck not ag-
nimble sentinel
Because all of the weapons are already listed in the codices of the base 40k exp...
๐ , the setting doesn't really allow for inventions without immediately being servitorized by mars
frank ledge
With 3 variants like engineer on vt2
Single target heavy bolter
Anti horde auto cannon and a fast deploying one
Damn it fatshark that would javet been great, instead we get poopy stealth
whole moon
๐ , the setting doesn't really allow for inventions without immediately being s...
And boy are those TechPriests coming for me
nimble sentinel
And boy are those TechPriests coming for me
woven olive
honestly i kinda hope they add raid bosses in the form of deamon generals and plague marines real tough stuff
cloud current
is exhilarating takedown fixed?
jade notch
Yes
cloud current
that's exhilarating
jade notch
At this point, y'all need to pin that
nimble sentinel
honestly i kinda hope they add raid bosses in the form of deamon generals and p...
I would too but a plague marine might legitimately be too much of a power leap for 3 base humies and an ogryn
woven olive
that's exhilarating
budum tish
woven olive
I would too but a plague marine might legitimately be too much of a power leap f...
nah just a random one not a named one plus it be a late additon after updats
woven olive
nah just a random one not a named one plus it be a late additon after updats
i mean...its a raid boss not a normal boss
whole moon
Every Chaos Space Marine is a time served veteran.
karmic musk
good choice
Tanith Space Marines
modern crescent
all ails can be solved with a sufficiently dumb stealth thunder hammer zealot
woven olive
plus in lore some chaos marines have gotten killed by normal humans under heavy fire
grand sable
skill issue
whole moon
True but lores weird, a handful of marines in lore have quelled an entire planet
woven olive
we have fought chaos spawn and beasts of nurgle both of wich have swallowed up marines in lore....we might have a chance honestly
nimble sentinel
it would definitely need to be handled differently than the boss fights we currently have, but I would still love to see it happen
whole moon
If they ever did do it I hope they make the marine ridiculously agile.
woven olive
it would definitely need to be handled differently than the boss fights we curre...
as i said RAID bosses as in bullet sponge hell canons that merc teams ultra fast
nimble sentinel
James of house Workshop might also have some thoughts about 4 convicts sending a supersoldier wearing a tank in the forever box
whole moon
I would like a proper representation of a the space marine in all their superhuman glory
nimble sentinel
my thought I had about it a while ago: we assist a loyalist marine in a stealth infiltration to kill the plague marine
woven olive
one shot chain swords bolter that ignores suppression immmunity and alot of dodging and charging at players.....yeha the marine will get his proper treat meant
timid otter
Why would any loyalists be upon atoma
whole moon
A stop the noise marine mission where all we do is break his guitar and it stomps off in a huff
nimble sentinel
Why would any loyalists be upon atoma
our rejects talk about it between fights, how this is a job for the space marines not us
woven olive
Why would any loyalists be upon atoma
rouge traders can hire marines....lady alice is heavily implied to have those connections
timid otter
Ye but theres also the warp storm
nimble sentinel
what about rogue traders tho?
whole moon
Requisition may be more accurate than hire
nimble sentinel
another source of connections with marines: The Inquisition
woven olive
Requisition may be more accurate than hire
true....but that hasnt stopped some marines from wanting pay for coming along lol
nimble sentinel
there's a space wolf in the rogue trader crpg isn't there?
whole moon
Question is, which Chapter would be most likely to respond? I know it's all theory crafting and won't happen but I'd put my cash on Salamanders
nimble sentinel
Question is, which Chapter would be most likely to respond? I know it's all theo...
James Workshop might give us a smurf
whole moon
Ultrasmurfs have SM2 they can play there!
nimble sentinel
oh sweet summer child...
woven olive
who else but blood ravens lol they would love to hunt for "relics"
nimble sentinel
who else but blood ravens lol they would love to hunt for "relics"
dear god please no not my plasteel
tin foil hat time: there are already space marines in atoma and we have fought with them
they're the grey knights tho
midnight mortar
they're the grey knights tho
Then we're all dead.
nimble sentinel
Then we're all dead.
or slurpin on that mandatory forgetting juice
woven olive
***dear god please no not my plasteel***
blood ravens on atoma "so why are we here" oh we got news they have the tech to make some "seacret weapon" but im sure its a relic" "....send all teams to atoma"
whole moon
Here's some more tinfoil.
A second Strike Cruiser leaves the warp heading for Atoma, as it approaches the planet all vox aboard the Mourningstar sqwawks into life.
'It is I, Cato Sicarius!'
woven olive
*the lamenters*
one dead lementer as a corpse on a level as an easter egg
whole moon
Or a Dark Angel half cloaked
nimble sentinel
Here's some more tinfoil.
A second Strike Cruiser leaves the warp heading for At...
"My Beloved misses his device that would let him talk"
proven plaza
had to delete mtyy vet ther was prblems as it ws from beta but i just got this
topaz lance
People arguing about Warhammer 40k lore and "power levels" as if the source material has any consistency will always be puzzling to me.
woven olive
if they have to add another faction my money is on khorne worshippers who self flagellate and cause bleed to players with a huge focus on melee units with the few range opptions using shotguns....ehheeheh ripper reaper
nimble sentinel
I believe in the gene stealer cult theories personally
they can take my levi's off my cold dead hands
topaz lance
It doesn't goddamn matter. If they would want to add a space marine as a boss, they could. In the books they're either unstoppable or can be taken down by a few regular humans. But honestly, if we don't ever see any space marine in this game that's just fine by me.
nimble sentinel
anywho I'm off to work, keep ripping and tearing
woven olive
if they have to add another faction my money is on khorne worshippers who self f...
hear me out though...the sefl flaggelateing does damage tothem sefls BUT all damge they take (self inflicted or inflicted by players) boosts thier damage output
unreal bone
I was in an auric damnantion I don't think they'll ever add a Plague Marine.
It seems just stupid for there to be only a SINGULAR marine.
A Chaos Sorcerer though? They normally run off and do shit on their own all the time.
Problem is can we even challenge a Chaos Sorcerer..?
versed merlin
the only thing i know is that its very fitting that we have psyker vet and zealot as classes and ogryn is just a class named after its own race name lol
whole moon
the only thing i know is that its very fitting that we have psyker vet and zealo...
I am Tosk!
karmic musk
A squad of 4 obliterates thousands of civilian tier trash, hundreds of soldiers, tens of Ogryns and several Daemons.
People ask: Can they beat <insert X> though?
unreal bone
I mean I think it's a valid question.
Sure they could probably beat up a run of the mill chaos space marine. ๐ฅฑ
But a Chaos Sorcerer a bit more up there.
whole moon
send the Zealot and Psyker in as a distraction while the Vet leads the Orgyn around behind the Sorcerer so it can pull its arms off
unreal bone
One small problem with that.
If it's a Death Guard Sorcerer he's probably so fucking vile that the ogryn will just melt in close proximity.
He smells like week old baked beans outside.
A Thousand Sons Sorcerer just go brrrr.
hollow turtle
gaunt hinge
hey theres only 3 players in your squad
whole moon
Dont waste your mats til the class is reworked
gaunt hinge
whole moon
Any idea what I should replace?
the weapon.. with a better one that isnt gonna drain the maps ammo spawns to do less damage than everyone else ๐
unreal bone
the weapon.. with a better one that isnt gonna drain the maps ammo spawns to do ...
Please give me a legit answer.
whole moon
check pinned messages, Guardman wrote a ranged weapon primer with the answers you seek
cosmetics are in! the Vanguard kit is here
wicked niche
new cosmetics are out
was kinda hoping the pants wouldn't be this model, they're too clunky for my tastes :/
versed merlin
i hate those square legs hey
wicked niche
i just launched it, maybe i just somehow got em a day or so early
unreal bone
I'mma try relaunching.
wicked niche
i was hoping they'd be these legs but blue :P
midnight mortar
i hate those square legs hey
Unrelated, but is adding "hey" like that to the end of phrases for emphasis a British thing?
gaunt hinge
are there no blue legs in the commissary
wicked niche
not the same shade unfortunately
gaunt hinge
Unrelated, but is adding "hey" like that to the end of phrases for emphasis a Br...
its like innit or desu
junior grail
Nice
unreal bone
I'm reloading the game now
wicked niche
it's close but it isn't the same
midnight mortar
its like innit or desu
I've heard British youtubers do that with "hey". Just never made much sense to me.
unreal bone
aww I don't have them
wicked niche
anything else is more off
unreal bone
where are my cosmetics
midnight mortar
Innit makes more sense.
gaunt hinge
you can also use but
midnight mortar
Since that's just an abbreviation.
unreal bone
Oop I see them now
gaunt hinge
couldnt be me currently processing inquisitorial clearance
midnight mortar
Weird, I'm not seeing anything.
wicked niche
this looks much better imo
karmic musk
I've heard British youtubers do that with "hey". Just never made much sense to m...
Shouldn't that go **before **the sentence
wicked niche
but yeah not the same shade :P
gaunt hinge
im sure they have to go through their massive database adding sets to everyones accounts
topaz lance
this looks much better imo
The chunky boots are just dumb looking imo
unreal bone
It annoys me, but atleast the gear for zealot is tactical looking rather than candle covered priest
wicked niche
The chunky boots are just dumb looking imo
TRUE
topaz lance
always liked the simpler pants
karmic musk
this looks much better imo
Meet Generic Bald Man Soldier #1234
orchid hollow
pc gamepass, you do get the cosmetics on here
gaunt hinge
Meet Generic Bald Man Soldier #1234
john darktide
orchid hollow
i confirm
topaz lance
Meet Generic Bald Man Soldier #1234
Much better than cluttered cosmetics in my book.
midnight mortar
Shouldn't that go **before **the sentence
Right? That's why it confused me when I heard it.
unreal bone
they somehow made the zealot shirt and zealot pants 2 different colors of blue. ๐ซ
wicked niche
fatshark PLEASE
midnight mortar
Umm... they're free so why are you complaining??? You're so entitled...
gaunt hinge
what the fuck are those zealot pants
topaz lance
Is this with the Krieg pants?
gaunt hinge
so uggy
unreal bone
Is this with the Krieg pants?
No this is the moebian stuff.
karmic musk
Umm... they're free so why are you complaining??? You're so entitled...
I'm clutching my pearls
unreal bone
I don't have krieg pants on zealot.
topaz lance
No this is the moebian stuff.
Wait the pants have a different shade?
unreal bone
Yep
topaz lance
Strange
unreal bone
The zealot shirt and zealot pants are two different blues.
bitter turtle
did we already get it
midnight mortar
Wait the pants have a different shade?
That's what they're complaining about above, yes.
midnight mortar
did we already get it
It is being rolled out apparently.
unreal bone
topaz lance
Ok then
bitter turtle
monge paw
midnight mortar
Yet another wish granted with a cursed condition.
unreal bone
That's what they're complaining about above, yes.
I mean it's not the END of the world atleast it's tactical looking.. But come on how hard was it to use the same color twice--it takes more effort to pick a second color for the pants.
gaunt hinge
i can already hear it curling up
bitter turtle
o yeah i got it
midnight mortar
I mean it's not the END of the world atleast it's tactical looking.. But come on...
I'm aware. But with FS's track record this really is just special.
bitter turtle
at least the backpack is cool
midnight mortar
And that's not even mentioning Veteran's headgear with this pack.
Or what the pack is supposed to be for.
gaunt hinge
its the end of darktide
karmic musk
Headgear = no hair
midnight mortar
I wonder if this was an issue of poor version control or just genuine laziness in not matching colors.
midnight mortar
Like, no one looked at the outfit and thought it was a problem.
midnight mortar
Or something was tagged incorrectly and missed.
unreal bone
I'mma be fr they NEVER look at their outfits.
I remember when the first Armageddon outfit came out
topaz lance
there is no green pair of pants that matches with the ordo dockets green chest cosmetics
Always hated this
unreal bone
and like a week or two later they had to hotfix the game just to help with clipping
midnight mortar
Heaven forbid if someone points that out.
gaunt hinge
whats the green chest cosmetic
midnight mortar
The green flak chest piece.
wicked niche
Old models, just ship them out to appease you guys
the fools! in their hubris they forgot that it's impossible to satisfy us ๐ฟ
midnight mortar
In the docket store.
topaz lance
whats the green chest cosmetic
From the commisary, the simple all green chest pieces don't have an equivalent pair of pamts. Even the set it sells has olive green ones that don't match
idle carbon
most have an equivalent, but fatshark deliberately didn't put them together in the commissary
for example, survivor's punishment uniform pants are an excellent pair of cadian green pants
also pistolero's punishment uniform, though I prefer the boots on survivor
topaz lance
Not the non-camo and not olive green ones unfortunately.
unreal bone
Or something was tagged incorrectly and missed.
Who knows bro I mean it's dumb to complain about free shit, but if it's not gonna be done properly then I'd rather just have the dockets.
No ogryn backpack too but I let that slide.
But no ogryn backpack and miscolored textures.
smh
midnight mortar
I don't think it's dumb or unreasonable to have standards to hold FS to, regardless of whether they're giving something for free or not.
frank ledge
what the fuck are those zealot pants
they are pants? I see rags
unreal bone
The hood doesn't even really match the chest.. ๐คฃ
It matches better than the pants, but still noticeable on the morningstar.
delicate estuary
are the skins finally out or what ๐
trim hemlock
There will be one. Give it time.
unreal bone
The hood is made out of a different mesh than the chest so it barely matches, it looks like it was made out of felt or some kind of shiny fabric.
The pants are just straight up a different color of blue entirely.
delicate estuary
The pants are just straight up a different color of blue entirely.
let me guess with no variants
unreal bone
There are no pants that match the new zealot chest.
Unless one conveniently comes out in the new store rotation tomorrow.. Imagine that.
Imagine
There would be a fucking riot in the zealot channel
whole moon
vets new armour has some 70s/80s shoulder pad vibes going on
unreal bone
The vets got a good set imo.
Is it their best set no, but it's good.
Zealot got fucked.
whole moon
its a long way from being bad
unreal bone
Lemme go check psyker and ogryn rq
whole moon
midnight mortar
The vets got a good set imo.
That can't really be the case considering the helmet.
delicate estuary
well I alkready know I am not using the vet pants
cause I hate the design of the boots
and the psyker one is so so
unreal bone
That can't really be the case considering the helmet.
Well you right I wasn't counting the helmet.
midnight mortar
That mask is part of the launch trailer cosmetic set with a proper helmet.
midnight mortar
We now have what, 3 different versions of headgear with that mask.
And none of which are the launch cosmetic, which has been asked for since the Beta.
versed merlin
Unrelated, but is adding "hey" like that to the end of phrases for emphasis a Br...
oh no is just that im getting to used to hear my aussie friends talking and sometimes i write it down without even realizing
delicate estuary
Meanwhile, the 'gryn:
I prefer the homeless look
whole moon
midnight mortar
oh no is just that im getting to used to hear my aussie friends talking and some...
Ahh. Good to know.
midnight mortar
unreal bone
The only camo part of the ogryn is the pants.
midnight mortar
Good news, the zealot headpiece doesn't make you bald.
unreal bone
midnight mortar
Bad news, your hair straight up clips.
delicate estuary
We now have what, 3 different versions of headgear with that mask.
I will just stick with this
gaunt hinge
the glow goggs are reeeeal
unreal bone
Overrall I give the ogryn set a 8/10
delicate estuary
the only ones I like
is the ogryn one
rest just feels copy paste helmet and I dislike the look of that rebreather
unreal bone
I hate how the Ogryn one has camo pants, but literally nothing else is camo.
bitter turtle
would have used the hooded one if it was for vet
gentle heath
is the keep their headsdown passive actually usefull against gunners?
delicate estuary
would have used the hooded one if it was for vet
yea wish cosmetics werent class restricted
bitter turtle
is the keep their headsdown passive actually usefull against gunners?
no its shit
you really dont want to inflict suppression most of the time if naything
gentle heath
D:
bitter turtle
it makes them duck
versed merlin
yea wish cosmetics werent class restricted
i wish weapons and curios werent class restricted as well
gentle heath
i want them gunners squad to stop shooting me and my teammates
bitter turtle
if that si your sole goal
i guess suppression is ok, but i think its still watse of a talent
just shoot the fucks
midnight mortar
is the keep their headsdown passive actually usefull against gunners?
No.
delicate estuary
^^
gentle heath
when u run out of toughness while tryna charge up helbore shots
bitter turtle
also you are aware that you can enter bullet immune states by sprinting/sliding/dodging right
delicate estuary
suppression often prevents me from getting an exe stance reset
homies chilling behind cover
bitter turtle
yeah
delicate estuary
while I am REEEEEEEEEEEEEing
delicate estuary
that I Cant get a reset
bitter turtle
half the time
bitter turtle
spacebar works as well
midnight mortar
Ah yes, suppression making them move their heads/crouch half down so I can't get good shots.
bitter turtle
brief bullet immunity
like
in general
why are you in a situation where
you have no cover, and are losing a shooting war against gunners
you can always back up
in the worst case
becaus eyou can just sprint away
like so
midnight mortar
cant dodge will aiming and charging a shot for helbore tho :C
Unless you're positioning poorly, you shouldn't be in a situation where you can't afford to dodge due to holding a shot like that.
gentle heath
gonna try shout but idk if i'll like it compared to invis
cuz i like using invis to reposition to get that cheeky sniper
bitter turtle
that's fine
gentle heath
or get some shots on gunners
gentle heath
and have no aggro
bitter turtle
just run away to cover against gunners
there'sn o situation where you are forced to fight them
unless you're like literally pinned agaisnt a wall by mixed elite horde with gunners behind t hem
unreal bone
My krieg bulgryn using commissary docket pants, krieg coat, and the new mask.
gentle heath
what if theyre behind u in auric 
bitter turtle
but that's a positioning failure and suppression wont help you there
bitter turtle
what if theyre behind u in auric <:gr_cri:987634431558844436>
gunners dont spawn from behind usually
gentle heath
cuz thats always my issue, auric hordes come from both sides
bitter turtle
only specialists
no they dont
specialists constnatly spawn from behind
not regular elites
gentle heath
yea while ur tryna fall back u gotta deal with the horde then ur back is against the gunners
bitter turtle
it might happen very, very occasionally, but its rare
gentle heath
which is annoying
urban steppe
looks good i think
gentle heath
also using cover while aiming they can still hit u pretty often 
bitter turtle
then you overextended and its a positioning failure
if you went so far in you cant back out then something is wrong
you always have to be ready to back up
your same argument applies if 20 crushers rounded the corner
and are in your face
or ragers
or anything
if you cant back up then you're fugged
which absolutely hapens in auric mael too btw
gentle heath
idm close enemies usually someone on the team has shout
gentle heath
gonna try it 
bitter turtle
gunners are like
one of the least threatening enemies
you can literally always just walk away from them
gentle heath
wanna see if freeing up like 3-4 points is rlly worth it
delicate estuary
you can literally half them come to you if you walk out of LOS
bitter turtle
ya
they're squishy, their attacks dont do any dmg until they break toughness, and you can always just sprint/slide to get out
unreal bone
Bruh console players get these sets too I just learned. ๐คฃ
versed merlin
thats sad, but such is reality
delicate estuary
its simply not possible to give away the potential revenue to PC players
sick marsh
looks good i think
helmet's wrong.
unreal bone
its simply not possible to give away the potential revenue to PC players
Potential revenue?
urban steppe
helmet's wrong.
i took it
delicate estuary
looks good i think
the shoulder pads dont look like shoulder pads
delicate estuary
Potential revenue?
its more profitable for them to not give the aquilas that gave to console players when they will get that revenue naturally
urban steppe
the shoulder pads dont look like shoulder pads
its standing to hight yeh
unreal bone
The console players could've also gotten these sets for free.
ontop of their aquilas
delicate estuary
its standing to hight yeh
and I dislike the helmet as well
that rebreather
looks kinda whatever
bitter turtle
i dont care if console players get it
unreal bone
They get both.
bitter turtle
i dont really care or like exclusivity
delicate estuary
^^
bitter turtle
i get the concept of getting the set in general as an apology
i just wish
the vet set
was like
not a recolor
i really was excited at first seeing the hood lol
but that was zealot
unreal bone
Bruh the point of the bundle was cause they didn't want to give us aquilas
bitter turtle
and i was sadge
unreal bone
then they give console players the free sets and aquilas
karmic musk
not a recolor
That would take paid man hours
delicate estuary
Bruh the point of the bundle was cause they didn't want to give us aquilas
yea and the pack doesnt in any way compare to what you could get with the aquilas
bitter turtle
then they give console players the free sets and aquilas
idc if they get the set or not
or rather
i would prefer if they got the set
how does depriving them of the set benefit me lol
urban steppe
and I dislike the helmet as well
hmm i dont have too much chooses
unreal bone
yea and the pack doesnt in any way compare to what you could get with the aquila...
Yes but they get BOTH
bitter turtle
my complaint is just the quality
delicate estuary
my complaint is just the quality
this
unreal bone
my complaint is just the quality
The quality is awful tbh
The zealot is the worst
Hood is different meshes and the pants don't even match in the slightest.
karmic musk
This is just Fatshark quality, just look at their PREMIUM set
solar bone
Hmmm does the stopping power kind of brick this a bit? Charge rate isnt perfect either
delicate estuary
dunno there are some very decent premium sets
versed merlin
careful guys, fatshark might call you all entitled for complaining of free cosmetics
urban steppe
but i think will keep like this
delicate estuary
I will just stick with this
why run the new set when I have this for zealot @karmic musk.
crude wind
just seen the cosmetic
unreal bone
I mean bro it had to be intentional what they did to the zealot set.
crude wind
wow did Veterans get shafted
unreal bone
Every other set all of the gear is ATLEAST the same color
crude wind
absolutely dogshit cosmetic
karmic musk
why run the new set when I have this for zealot <@297370155195826186>.
Because that mask clips into the neckguard
delicate estuary
Because that mask clips into the neckguard <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
its whatever for that
at least it looks cool to me
oh well whatever
karmic musk
And that chestpiece doesn't suit any backpack
delicate estuary
at least I didnt play the beta for a year
karmic musk
I run that mask + Krieg chest + voxcaster/backpack
delicate estuary
I just dislike that you cant even customize colours
unreal bone
Yeah I'mma be fr I wish we had a camo system.
karmic musk
Sir, this ain't COD
frank ledge
Sir, this ain't COD
The amount of camo disagrees
unreal bone
Sure it would've been whored out for $$$, but atleast then we could have what we want.
Instead of getting gear that literally isn't even the same color of cloth.
delicate estuary
^^
topaz lance
A possible (and still $ oriented) setup would be that you buy the items and colour(packs) independently (and earn them through penances etc.).
topaz lance
But it ain't gonna happen
delicate estuary
I think the vet set is fine excluding the mask.
the shoulder plates just give me ๐คฎ
unreal bone
I dont mind em.
unreal bone
They're a bit chonkier than normal but that sets them apart.
bitter turtle
ut the shoulder plates are the only thing unique about it
oblique horizon
OH shit, cosmetics dropped?
topaz lance
the shoulder plates just give me ๐คฎ
I mean it is 40k after all
unreal bone
unreal bone
I don't mind the boots.
delicate estuary
yea I prefer the usual ones
like thematically that boot design doesnt make sense to me
be it 40k or not
you have normal cloth outfit and then you wear the most inconvenient boot
karmic musk
oh yea I really dislike the blocky boots too
isnt the blocky boots already part of the base sets
delicate estuary
ye
I never run them
I would like to use the "its 40k" excuse but I just cant
tender pasture
blocky boots are the sort of thing anyone who needs to jog anywhere will leave in the footlocker
delicate estuary
literally
crude wind
oh yea I really dislike the blocky boots too
i. hate. the. moon boots
delicate estuary
it doesnt make any sense from a use perspective so I cant accept them in my head
tender pasture
big chunk of weight at the most distal bit of the body, lmfao
unreal bone
What do I replace on this thing.
tender pasture
flak uggs
delicate estuary
flak uggs
this
man I really want to like the vet chest piece but its discount navy blue plus the shoulder plates
tender pasture
the shoulders feel like there's half a pack of cotton wadding under them
"man the boys really bullied me for not having delts so I'm stuffing my tunic"
solar bone
JFC hadron you bitch
crude wind
tbf this ain't the best to start with
tender pasture
anyone got a screenshot
no ss but not bad
crude wind
you don't really want under 65 thermal
solar bone
Pends on your school of thought
cause im a left clicker
more than a charger
also 73% charge is the best. Game is dumb
topaz lance
Speaking of cosmetics. I think it's time to get a new wave of penances + earnable cosmetics
crude wind
cause im a left clicker
same but you get one less shot than at 65% with this thermal
and 2 less under 47
crude wind
none of them
median belfry
what's everyone's go-to melee for stealthvet?
solar bone
can I dump stopping power a little?
topaz lance
do crafting rework dont need any more copy pasted cosmetics
It's not really an either/or thing though.
solar bone
So this is kind of a brick then?
crude wind
because of how reliant you are on Brunt
crude wind
So this is kind of a brick then?
i feel it will miss breakpoints by a small margin because of the Stopping power
solar bone
yea
crude wind
sorry to be the bearer of bad news
it took me a year to make this gun
not even joking
solar bone
got this one
midnight mortar
bitter turtle
at least plasma can whatever ot he blessings
unreal bone
the entire gun
Okay look can we not do this again
delicate estuary
i feel it will miss breakpoints by a small margin because of the Stopping power
just shoot a couple extra times
delicate estuary
dont understand why people are so stressed about ammo
unreal bone
Too bad plasma has a blessing that literally remvoes damage from it.
crude wind
got this one
hold onto this one, there's a chance they might fix the charge bug
bitter turtle
then you're gud
crude wind
and it won't be handicapped by that charge rating
solar bone
yea
crude wind
wait for next patch
unreal bone
So question
solar bone
I think ima go back to banking plat and gold till the update and cope seath until then lol
ordo*
bitter turtle
Okay look can we not do this again
do what again
crude wind
I think ima go back to banking plat and gold till the update and cope seath unti...
good shout. they know about the bug its been reported numerous times across the months
so maybe it will finally get fixed next part of Traitors curse
unreal bone
do what again
The thing where I ask what do I wanna replace on my Accatran and people go "the gun" haha funny.
crude wind
The thing where I ask what do I wanna replace on my Accatran and people go "the ...
they weren't being mean
crude wind
you got 0/4 on your roll there
bitter turtle
the right model
unreal bone
I like this model.
crude wind
you need 2/4
solar bone
I mean I know for a fact that handcannon was reported pretty much day one by angry crab and it took them forever to fix it. But I understand what you mean. I hope they do but im not gonna bank on it.
bitter turtle
HH/infenrus is best on the recons
crude wind
HH/Dumdum, Flakniac
solar bone
4-5 months
unreal bone
they weren't being mean
They were saying replace the gun earlier because they were just dogging on accatrans and saying they were god awful.
solar bone
I just want some new weapons/blessing in the update
bitter turtle
you're using arguably the worst model on the worst gun with no correct rolls
crude wind
They were saying replace the gun earlier because they were just dogging on accat...
won't comment on the gun but the rolls are bad on this one my dude :<
frank ether
oh yea I really dislike the blocky boots too
I wear them to irritate my friends
unreal bone
That's why I was asking what do I replace on it, do I go for blessings or perks.
So I can make it semi-usable
frank ether
I havent seen anyone who liked the blocky boots
unreal bone
till I get a new one.
crude wind
you would have to replace all 4, but go with perks
deathspitter is decentish, the other blessing is bad
unreal bone
You sure perks? Cause I have all of the blessings for Accatrans
bitter turtle
elite dmg is ok
its not like you do dmg to specialists anyway
in the first place
with that turd
frank ether
Its better to put it down and use something else for your sanity
unreal bone
its ok enough
replace stamina for what?
bitter turtle
i urge you
crude wind
^
bitter turtle
flak
crude wind
flak
bitter turtle
but again
i urge you
if you insist on using a recon
at least use the ones wtih higher firerate
frank ether
kantrael IV makes a good spam gun with the fullauto mod, I've been using that instead
crude wind
and get a melee weapon that can kill muties and flamers fast
bitter turtle
for the quick stacks on onslaught and other shit that make them even sem iusable
unreal bone
As if I'm using onslaught to begin with.
I never go right tree on veteran
It's not fun for me.
frank ether
lol you're in for pain and suffering
bitter turtle
you're a funny guy
unreal bone
I like middle tree
bitter turtle
just a silly guy
unreal bone
If I was trying to build a super sweaty build I wouldn't be using my chain axe either. ๐
unreal bone
bitter turtle
and a lot of area in between
frank ether
there is being sweaty and then there is being a hindrance
gusty bison
Deadshot recon
tender pasture
man I kinda feel like this is beyond meta hipsterdom
wicked niche
So this is kind of a brick then?
get that stopping power up
bitter turtle
unironically im not sure what you're using the gun for at this point then
to spray hordes?
tender pasture
it's punishing yourself
unreal bone
Bruh I can't be anymore of a hindrance than the braindead psykers who Emperor Palpatine daemonhosts every match.
wicked niche
then afterwards... then you karkin pray that you dont get fucked when you upgrade it
delicate estuary
unironically im not sure what you're using the gun for at this point then
what gun we talking
bitter turtle
a recon VII with no onslaught
frank ether
infantry autos have pretty decent maniac damage
delicate estuary
a recon VII with no onslaught
ahh
frank ether
4000 something dps with a kantrael infantry IV
gusty bison
infantry autos have pretty decent maniac damage
Decent?
delicate estuary
I been running a recon build with weapon specialist so I do have access to onslaught
gusty bison
Try insane
delicate estuary
has been fun
gusty bison
Lol
gentle heath
shout is pretty nice for daemons :)
tender pasture
honestly, I have to wonder if the sMiTe SpEcIaLiStS aren't doing better
frank ether
Try insane
yeah compared to recon its night and day
gentle heath
had 3 zealots 2 with thunder hammers and they clapped the ass cheaks off the daemon in auric
gusty bison
yeah compared to recon its night and day
Compared to anything its night and day
gentle heath
3 daemons more under their belts
gusty bison
Ur literallt talking about the highest maniac dps gun
frank ether
Compared to anything its night and day
I mean iags can keep up
gusty bison
By a country mile and a half
gusty bison
infantry autos have pretty decent maniac damage
...
tender pasture
I'd be concerned for a friend if they showed up with that loadout, like, you good bruv?
frank ether
I think the key difference is missing a shot or two affects your dps quite a lot
gusty bison
Plush. I think u might have typoed
tender pasture
you need to talk about something, get off your chest?
solar bone
I either want them to back +25% ammo into the tree for all vets, or do something like this
solar bone
bake it in
bitter turtle
yes i would love more ammo on hb3 and vraks7
solar bone
passive all vets get
gusty bison
Its just fucking useless in general
bitter turtle
wow
gusty bison
Tbh
karmic musk
Bruh whats with the Psykers that only have Smite as their weapon nowadays
frank ether
Plush. I think u might have typoed
ye
I was comparing
infantry las vs infantry auto
delicate estuary
Bruh whats with the Psykers that only have Smite as their weapon nowadays
dont you enjoy hitting afk mobs
gusty bison
Ah fair
frank ether
both of which have insane maniac dps
gusty bison
Infantry las is... ok
frank ether
I agree
frank ledge
Bruh whats with the Psykers that only have Smite as their weapon nowadays
Assail has no skill expresion and gets boring after a while
BB is only useful if combined with empower
So smite is the only left for EVERYTHING else
karmic musk
dont you enjoy hitting afk mobs
AFK trash mobs, then they get hit from behind and downed
frank ether
Infantry las is... ok
it has the potential, just hard to realize said potential
gusty bison
Ye
You need to be at like 25m and hitting consecutive headshofs
Which isnt the easiest
tender pasture
smite to shut down ragers is one thing, smite for vibes against trash mobs is just
frank ether
You know if kantrael had a little higher base stamina
tender pasture
bruh, pick up a stick and hit them ffs
frank ether
I could make a nice deadshot build out of it
solar bone
Could just be all one talent to
gusty bison
If it had less recoil too
karmic musk
smite to shut down ragers is one thing, smite for vibes against trash mobs is ju...
ONLY Smite whole game, no melee no range
tender pasture
ogryn chat posted a screencap other day, dude had 1 melee kill
which is honestly just impressive
frank ether
If it had less recoil too
yeah well that too but mainly I don't get why lighter variants of certain guns arent given more stamina
gusty bison
Thats a good point lmao
tender pasture
"im helping cc and support you don't understand"
karmic musk
Brainburst is pretty trash nowadays too thanks to all the Plasma and Revolver users around
tender pasture
yeah if you hit things we might not need that cc
frank ether
you'd expect a lightweight gun like kantrael IV to have a little more mobility and stamina
delicate estuary
Brainburst is pretty trash nowadays too thanks to all the Plasma and Revolver us...
its the only reliable boss damage psyker has
and brain burst is fine if you pair it with venting shriek
gusty bison
you'd expect a lightweight gun like kantrael IV to have a little more mobility a...
They should reduce sway and recoil on thr MG4
tender pasture
there's gun psyker but most psykers can't aim
young sequoia
ONLY Smite whole game, no melee no range
had TWO ppl do this the whole match the other day xD
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1177456838820769852/Darktide_j9Oyd1SY8x.png?ex=65729322&is=65601e22&hm=4a8fa5b8a2f22e15da71c0b4478ac4bc2ad4492e00b76a5f3c99ffb24f082a77&
delicate estuary
and play it as if it wasnt patch 3
karmic musk
its the only reliable boss damage psyker has
Im just swapping to Assail isntead of BB on my Purg build
delicate estuary
Im just swapping to Assail isntead of BB on my Purg build
dont see the point of assail personally but you do you
I like my brain burst
north spoke
Yo
umbral scaffold
had TWO ppl do this the whole match the other day xD
https://cdn.discordapp.com/...
Free top trash mob kills
karmic musk
I was sandbagging with Brainburst, highlight blue enemy, Veteran plasmas the blue enemy
tender pasture
on a purg build it lets you hit snipers and the like too
the lmb bolts are underwhelming
delicate estuary
I even run brain burst on surge cause venting shriek soulblaze with wildfire kills hordes like 5 seconds
delicate estuary
on a purg build it lets you hit snipers and the like too
so does brain burst but you also have "ok" boss damage
not the best but you wont be just standing there
hoping your team does something
tender pasture
on a purg build honestly just flame the boss
soulblaze does good boss damage when fully stacked
young sequoia
purge+vent, swap to sword w unyielding. puts in work
tender pasture
yeah vent to get the stacks over the normal limit
delicate estuary
purge+vent, swap to sword w unyielding. puts in work
that is such a dumb mechanic imo
young sequoia
isn't it xD
delicate estuary
power based on peril
I use dueling sword
but that shit is dumb on force swords
frank ether
They should reduce sway and recoil on thr MG4
I think it might be interesting to make it so La and 12 have higher stability& better recoil but IV reworked to be a high mobility close range variant
tender pasture
the high speed operator gun
karmic musk
Force Sword mobility rip
frank ether
I think you wouldnt mind the recoil as much on IV if it was intended as a closer range weapon
karmic musk
Imagine taking away Infinite Dodge but not giving it at least neutral dodge distance
tender pasture
reverse damage falloff on IV could be interesting
gusty bison
I think it might be interesting to make it so La and 12 have higher stability& b...
MG 4 shouldnt have reverse fall off
delicate estuary
Imagine taking away Infinite Dodge but not giving it at least neutral dodge dist...
in exchange you do stupid damage with a single blessing
tender pasture
*reverse the lasgun normal reverse falloff
gusty bison
Atm the reverse falloff is painful
frank ether
It should have normal fall-off and better breakpoints up close yeah
gusty bison
Ye
frank ether
really it should be for the infantry las what columnus is for iags, maybe with a little less extreme dps difference
gusty bison
I would make the MG4 same damage all range
And MG 1a have reduced ramp up
And MG12 have current ramp up
And of course buff damage of MG 4 and MG 1a
Maybe even slow down the RoF of the MG12 further and give it better base and flak damage
Like make it a HB1 competitor
tender pasture
full DMR workover
frank ether
Maybe what we need is a longlas to compete with hb3
gusty bison
Like what they did to the V7
tender pasture
the lasgun battle rifle
frank ether
yeah, they did a good job differentiating V7
rip to my headhunter V7 but I needed a better roll anyways
karmic musk
Like make it a HB1 competitor
instant draw, similar damage to HB1, I pick it anyday everyday
bayonet exploit fixed of course
gusty bison
instant draw, similar damage to HB1, I pick it anyday everyday
It has a lot worse stability
HB1 will remain better in cqc
frank ether
or they could just have a long las you know
gusty bison
Plus ramp up is still a thing
gusty bison
*or they could just have a long las you know*
Only if they rip that scope off for a more sensible dot sight
frank ether
Only if they rip that scope off for a more sensible dot sight
ideally we should have a choice anyways smh
karmic musk
then its not a longlas
gusty bison
then its not a longlas <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Nah. Just cos simo ripped the scope off his gun doesnt make it not a sniper rifle
karmic musk
ideally we should have a choice anyways smh
This ain't COD
time to ban that weapon customization mod
tender pasture
I laugh a bit whenever I see the rifling in the scopes
leaden musk
time to ban that weapon customization mod
Is that you hedge??
muted knot
any advice on how to make thisplay ?
gusty bison
any advice on how to make thisplay ?
Swap out Falter for Surgical, No respite for deadly accurate
Vraks 7 is all about them crit headshots
delicate estuary
any advice on how to make thisplay ?
should be ok with deadshot
ideally you want maniac flak
gusty bison
Stamina is passable on a V7. Flak is non ideal but its not bad
delicate estuary
since you will run deadshot with those type of weapons
the stamina isnt the worst stat
versed merlin
could be better tho
muted knot
i just realized i have litteral 0 blessings
gusty bison
Maniac for sure is the best
muted knot
jikes
delicate estuary
any advice on how to make thisplay ?
in the end of the day if you dont have time to grind its good enough if you do what @gusty bison said
gusty bison
Ye you just miss the rager 1 tap breakpoints with left keystone
But thats a very niche breakpoint
gusty bison
Vraks 7 is literallylasgun levels of ammo efficiency
delicate estuary
can you still one tap flamers without maniac
delicate estuary
I was having some inconsistency without maniac on mk12
gusty bison
Ur doing about 1.8k damage
versed merlin
do vraks build takes any keystone?
gusty bison
I was having some inconsistency without maniac on mk12
Yea cos MG12 has damage ramp up
delicate estuary
you can go full left on mk7 @versed merlin
versed merlin
ugh
versed merlin
i hate that left keystone
gusty bison
None is also an option
muted knot
oh yeah what doi even run with this gun?
delicate estuary
ugh
left is fine if you dont overindulge yourself in the concept of standing still
muted knot
like talent tree wise
gusty bison
oh yeah what doi even run with this gun?
Deadshot. Duck n dive. Precision strikes.
delicate estuary
all you need is a headshot
delicate estuary
Yea cos MG12 has damage ramp up
mind explaining the whole ramp up thing to me
gusty bison
The either go for middle keystone or left keystone.
gusty bison
mind explaining the whole ramp up thing to me
It does less damage at point blank
And more at like 30m
delicate estuary
is that even intended
gusty bison
Yes
umbral scaffold
Thought the general concensus was left keystone is shit from an ass
gusty bison
Thought the general concensus was left keystone is shit from an ass
Left keystone is weapon dependent
frank ether
I cant decide between reciprocity and duck'n dive
I made a kantrael IV deadshot meme build
delicate estuary
MGIA, MG12 and the HHs can all run left keystone
gusty bison
I cant decide between reciprocity and duck'n dive
Duck n dive
For the love of god if ur running a high rof deadshot gun take dnd
bright coyote
I cant decide between reciprocity and duck'n dive
i used to only used duck and dive, but i think it's personal preference
umbral scaffold
I find that auric damn keeps sending too many walls of bulwarks/crushers to benefit all that much from left keystone
bright coyote
i prefer reciprocity now
muted knot
how do we fix this ?
versed merlin
For the love of god if ur running a high rof deadshot gun take dnd
grr i but my iron will 
frank ether
Duck n dive
I could also drop shock trooper and just grab both
delicate estuary
For the love of god if ur running a high rof deadshot gun take dnd
isnt that all the way to the right
delicate estuary
I could also drop shock trooper and just grab both
shock trooper overrated
gusty bison
I could also drop shock trooper and just grab both
Do this.
Mg4 doesnt have ammo issues
delicate estuary
just get to the ammo pickups first
versed merlin
isnt that all the way to the right
kinda, its at the beginning of the bottom right tree
frank ether
should be K
muted knot
so uhh like this for Vraks ?
gusty bison
should be K
More than K
We are looking at maybe 1-2 ammo tins per run... if ur spamming
muted knot
gusty bison
so uhh like this for Vraks ?
Uh. Are u looking for the keystone?
gusty bison
If not kill the left bottomost node and take iron will
delicate estuary
if you are doing the node that outlines all shooters you can give up the cooldown on specialist kills
and go for left keystone
and get camo as well with it
muted knot
i have noclue how to make builds
delicate estuary
I find mid tree pointless if you go for outline all shooters
gusty bison
Not the orange ones
delicate estuary
you cankeep exe stance going for like 30 seconds in a row at times
delicate estuary
you only need it if you dont go for outline all shooters
there is enough shooters to go around to keep resetting
muted knot
so left keystone with one upgrade ?
versed merlin
so left keystone with one upgrade ?
you would ideally pick counter fire or the other one to keep it up
gusty bison
so left keystone with one upgrade ?
Ye
muted knot
igot counterfire and shooters
what upgrade for the keystone ?
rending ?
also whats camo ?
versed merlin
honestly, i dont think you would even need counter-fire if playing auric idk
never took courage to bring non-shout builds to auric
gusty bison
Its nice tbough
Cos it shoots slow so the stamina drain isnt that bad
But dnd is useful
delicate estuary
so left keystone with one upgrade ?
this is what I run usually. Its missing 2 points that you can put wherever you want
gusty bison
Its one of those things where u can take if you want but you dont need it
Lemme grab my version of this build
delicate estuary
I personally go for the 10% rending node and I am still not sure where to put the 1 point
delicate estuary
nah not really needed imo
versed merlin
had to make this one rq
frank ether
I personally go for the 10% rending node and I am still not sure where to put th...
take the %30 reload
can come in handy
frank ether
or field improv
unreal bone
I'm still so annoyed that the zealot outfit doesn't even match raaaah.
delicate estuary
I am glad I had that reload
unreal bone
I've wanted a matching tactical outfit for zealot for months
frank ether
depends on gun ofc
delicate estuary
or field improv
thats the only real other option but its also like "we reduced ammo box spawn rates"
frank ether
but certain guns that reload really comes in handy
delicate estuary
also I prefer to run headhunter over surgical
delicate estuary
mk12 and v7 probably
frank ether
preference but post-patch I started to lean towards surgical
delicate estuary
I just dislike having to wait
frank ether
more ammo friendly though
if its a target worth waiting for
like a crusher or whatnot
delicate estuary
if its a target worth waiting for
eh probably but I get away with a big bag of ammo on mk12 per match
unless I have to literally kill everything cause pubs
are feeling like chilling
if I get a semi competent lobby its only a single bag of ammo per match on the mk12
if its complete incompetence well it might be multiple bags of ammo
need to get a good MK7 tho
frank ether
didnt even knew mk12 had surgical lol
delicate estuary
it doesnt nvm
I would probably still run headhunter on the mk7
this is what I usually run https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a91079c-fa12-4388-9f28-522cb5e59cf9/sharpshooter-vet
delicate estuary
ahh no nade regen
admirable
I like that safety net
how do you even play with no nade regen @gusty bison
what do you prioritize
gusty bison
what do you prioritize
Elites as usual
XD
But shooters are still fine too
15% toughness regen packs
karmic musk
no nades = heresy
wicked niche
1 million ragers
good thing they reduced the spawn count with that health buff eh
delicate estuary
I guess you could mag dump
gusty bison
Heres my usual V7 build
unreal bone
What do I want on this btw? Just got the 100% weakspot damage
gusty bison
I guess you could mag dump
Nah i go for the double tap
delicate estuary
Nah i go for the double tap
or that
delicate estuary
What do I want on this btw? Just got the 100% weakspot damage
specialists to maniac and replac no respite with headhunter
gusty bison
What do I want on this btw? Just got the 100% weakspot damage
Ooo a near godroll
gusty bison
As a side note this is on a Zealot.
Same
delicate estuary
As a side note this is on a Zealot.
dont think it matters
unreal bone
kk
delicate estuary
wonder how much value you can get out of crits with blazing piety zealot
on the mk12
gusty bison
I guess you could mag dump
Main thing is cos magdumping ragers is painful
U do 300 damage pershot
Takes like half the clip to kill one
delicate estuary
Main thing is cos magdumping ragers is painful
its just bad wording on my part on that context
I meant magdump headshots
gusty bison
Ah fair
delicate estuary
but yea
gusty bison
What do I want on this btw? Just got the 100% weakspot damage
Theres only two things stopping this being a literal godroll btw
Flak 20% instead of 25 and mobility under 50
But both of those are mostly irrelevant
delicate estuary
ye
gusty bison
Otherwise this is literally as good as it gets
delicate estuary
This is just personal preference but I might value mobility over ammo
I like my dodge distance
stark hollow
nimble sentinel
70% is plenty serviceable
delicate estuary
@nimble sentinel you are here