veteran-class

[mystic belfry]

Either charged attacks can be easy to use, or they can be powerful

You can't really have both

[placid portal]

Oh shit I mean making sniper teamkill their own

[ocean moat]

Wasnt shooting nothing, looking straight forward

[placid portal]

[limber egret]

tho hey is gloryhunter good on plasma? i currently have a build where i can get like 50 plus thoughness on kills(with the focuse fire perk)

[finite imp]

Sure you did lmao

[limber egret]

and currently i have the tier 2 gets hot(35%)

[maiden trail]

Or how about it being part of the heavy attack but costs stamina?

[limber egret]

so like would that be good for now?

[mystic belfry]

My favorite interaction in the game will allows be when a trapper grabs you, and a bursters dive bombs you before you even hit the ground

Get down mr. president vibes

But the opposite

[placid portal]

Lmao

[maiden trail]

I got a new one to that , just as I got netted I got snipe a few seconds after before hitting the ground XD

[mystic belfry]

That would have less utility than we currently hav.

[maiden trail]

The sniper clearly has a grudge with me

[placid portal]

Or after a trapper nets you a flamer spawns and cooks you alive

[limber egret]

also question is there also a way to undo modifcations on weapons?

[placid portal]

[placid portal]

No.

[jade notch]

Usually, it's the Poxburster dogpiling my netted ass. That's funnier tho.

[mystic belfry]

Change them to a different mod

[limber egret]

oh ok

but so how do i check the base critcal hit chance on the plasma gun?

if it has any?

[mystic belfry]

Go off of your gut instinct

[maiden trail]

I mean it's current design isn't as recommended by most builds , indicating there's a problem in design and balance if it

[mystic belfry]

Ps6 is one of the best melee weapons in the game.

[ocean moat]

@mystic belfry ill do you one better. Mutie throws you into a flyimg net

[maiden trail]

Go for the head and concern for crits isn't as much of a problem 😉

[placid portal]

Or into bomber firr

[mystic belfry]

My favorite with mutie is when they huck you directly off of the map, do not hang on an edge, just instantly dead

Funny as fuck

[placid portal]

[maiden trail]

Had that happen with bomber the most XD

[ocean moat]

😔✊

[maiden trail]

Putrid just comes up out of nowhere behind me and pop I got flying lol

[placid portal]

Chaos spawn is quite easy to bully compared to other monsters

[mystic belfry]

Chaos ogryn is the easiest

[placid portal]

Tru

[mystic belfry]

or w/e the fuck his name is

[ocean moat]

Nurgle easiest for ne

Me

[mystic belfry]

it's like a slightly more advanced rat ogre

It's basically asking to be bullied

[midnight mortar]

Plague Ogryn?

[ocean moat]

Plagryn

[mystic belfry]

Yeah plague ogryn

[midnight mortar]

Yeah, big pushover.

[maiden trail]

Very easy especially using the torrent lasgun , with burning and bleeding stacking on it to no end XD

[midnight mortar]

Though I find BoN the easiest if only because of how slow it is.

[mystic belfry]

I almost always melee bosses

[placid portal]

For a plogryn with engine molded onto its back it aint that fast

[maiden trail]

I've seen them die from the dots as I reload lol

[placid portal]

[ocean moat]

Nurgle beast ez for me because you can just lazer their weakspot

[midnight mortar]

It's for lift and torque clearly.

[mystic belfry]

Which is why Jabba the Hut is my least favorite boss

[ocean moat]

When scabber bosses?

[placid portal]

Bully all bosses as ogryn and trivialize all boss encounters

[ocean moat]

Monsters

[midnight mortar]

Imagine how neat it'd be if we see Dark Mechanicus enemies in the form of bosses.

[mystic belfry]

Barrels are the scab boss

Highest kill rate of any boss

[placid portal]

Truly frightening

[midnight mortar]

Merge a plague Ogryn with the legs of a mechanical spider.

[mystic belfry]

Side note

[midnight mortar]

Have it crawl on walls and ceilings to attack us.

[mystic belfry]

I still think demonhosts are lame

Like super lame

I don't wanna see a boss and be expected to not beat the shit out of it

[ocean moat]

On that note

We should get an extra weapon drop for monsta kills

[placid portal]

Tru

They spawn so many lately

[mystic belfry]

Obviously

The entire crafting/loot system regressed hard from vt2

I appreciate the perk/blessing increased variability, but that's litterally the only thing that got better

[placid portal]

It aint brunt's fault

[mystic belfry]

Ngl I'd kill brunt if they gave em a health bar

[zealous wyvern]

why

[bronze atlas]

Daemonhosts add to the gameplay depending on where they spawn and what's around them

[mystic belfry]

Pain

[bronze atlas]

In an identical way to the Witch from l4d

[mystic belfry]

Like, just spawn a big landmine and it's the same effect

[placid portal]

Brunt's doing his best no booli

[bronze atlas]

Yeah basically but its a landmine you can fight

[mystic belfry]

Brunt should roll better than

[zealous wyvern]

i like DH a lot

[placid portal]

Landmine best ds3 boss

[ocean moat]

Mutie tackle into daemomhost

[zealous wyvern]

i think it was a great idea

[bronze atlas]

Don't get grabbed!

[mystic belfry]

Always fun when you get a silent demonhost and hit it through a wall

[ocean moat]

Best matchup @mystic belfry

[zealous wyvern]

wat

[mystic belfry]

Never had that happen?

[bronze atlas]

Ive never gotten silent dh

[zealous wyvern]

no

but its a bug

[bronze atlas]

I don't get any of the sound issues people report though

[mystic belfry]

I've had it happen twice that I know of

[zealous wyvern]

so not relevant to design

[mystic belfry]

Yeah, sound bugs are a thing

[zealous wyvern]

i get sound issues sometimes but it is rare

[proven plaza]

constant mutie screaming and no mutie

[ocean moat]

Mutie screaming

[jade notch]

I've had Muties yeet me into the Daemonhost, but never not the DH dropping their audio cue before I ever see them

[bronze atlas]

That's because there's a mutie you can't see

[mystic belfry]

The main issue I have with deamonhost is just the block break it has tbh

So certain setups will stomp the shit out of it, by just one-shotting it or holding special on a shield

[ocean moat]

Am i schizo or is mutie scream global

[mystic belfry]

So it's not really even an unkillable monster or something

Mutie is loud as fuck

[jade notch]

It might as well be Global, I can't tell the difference

[limber egret]

also last question so the crtical hit chance on gets hot blessing that says scales with heat is it like 50% heat = 50% crit chance?

[ocean moat]

Like from the moment it spawns you can hear it

[bronze atlas]

What's the deal with bursters randomly exploding oob anyway, is that just because people turn into trees when the sound plays?

[maiden trail]

I mean by all lore accounts were not supposed to be capable of killing one aren't we? Hence why it's also an achievement (penance) for doing so XD

[ocean moat]

So fuckin annoying when mutie wave modifiers

[jade notch]

Bursters can't climb over obstacles, so they just explode on the first thing they can't climb

[mystic belfry]

Stupid penaces are an entire other problem

[bronze atlas]

By lore accounts we wouldn't be able to stand within 50 feet of a beast of nurgle

[junior bolt]

Is it me or do Plasma gun damage go up and down when it feels like it? The left one does more damage when the right one has better stats. Flak chest shots.

[mystic belfry]

Yes let's make griefing achievements in a team based game

[maiden trail]

True XD

[bronze atlas]

Plasma gun stats

73 charge rate...

[proven plaza]

my vet was 30 from beta and i just started gan and i had no points for the skill tree s i deleted her and made new now i have loads of tree points but weapons are killing me

[mystic belfry]

Also, don't deamonhosts vary wildly in strength depending on what demon is in them?

And none of our characters should be able to handle these missions anyways

[maiden trail]

Griefing how so?

[midnight mortar]

This is what you're noticing.

[mystic belfry]

Going most of a mission with no ammo, soloing a boss with brainburst, shit like that

[midnight mortar]

Check the pinned messages.

[maiden trail]

Ah yeah the brainburst one was irritating to do because of that cast time vs how fast ppl gun them down

[jade notch]

Oh shit, they have the "Armor and Damage bonus" graphs for the different Enemy types in here. Sick.

[maiden trail]

The hounds was easy enough

[ocean moat]

Counter: teambased penances such as the rescue 3 teammates

[mystic belfry]

Back before they made it private match only (stupid ass bandage "fix") people would grief their team to kill them so they could solo a boss lol

With barrels, pox bursters, etc

So fucking stupid

[ocean moat]

Some of the frame challenges are stupid impossible

[mystic belfry]

Penances should be things you would do in normal play, but are hard or rare. Like killing a dog mid-air with brain burst

[maiden trail]

Wait the achievement is down to private game only?

[ocean moat]

I think it was 10 or 15 missions malice+ no deaths across the team? In a row

[mystic belfry]

Mhmm.

[maiden trail]

Weak

[mystic belfry]

They made griefing achievement private only as a shitty patch lol

it's moronic

[zealous wyvern]

just did that. very possible to do max lvl but obviously annoying

[ocean moat]

Final hit on a dog with slap

[maiden trail]

We had fun killing them before as random pugs

[pure chasm]

hello veterans
which power sword is the best one
and what perks and blessings do you put on it

[ocean moat]

https://tenor.com/view/watch-yo-tone-fnaf-fnaf-memes-gif-24043137

[mystic belfry]

power sword 6

[ocean moat]

Teammates are the worst part

[junior bolt]

that's the thing tho. I have this set of plasma guns and the left one does 1008 while the right does 996. The opposite of my first picture.

[maiden trail]

It feels kinda weak imo?

[zealous wyvern]

play only malice, get a tanky build, avoid grim missions and obv modifiers. avoid carnival too

[mystic belfry]

What does

[jade notch]

Power Cycler is practically mandatory on either Power Sword, whichever you choose

[maiden trail]

The mk3 or whatever sword feels stronger

[junior bolt]

Oh I just saw

im a dummy

[zealous wyvern]

bring boss killer gear

[mystic belfry]

Mk3 is easier mk6 is better

[junior bolt]

I thought the charge rate was linear in that greater or lesser meant more damage. not that it was an up and down fucky roller coaster

[spark helm]

huh...power sword with sunder 4

neat.

[flint garden]

dies to rando shooting a barrel

[mystic belfry]

You want power cycler and brutal momentum

Not sunder

[jade notch]

I like the Mk 6 PS more, that Push-Stab attack can 3-shot a Crusher from full health on Damnation if you have the PS Charged and aim for the head.

[tall torrent]

I’m 2 off from 100 no-down missions completed

[spark helm]

That's fine I figured there's something better.

[zealous wyvern]

i shot all barrels i had to pass when near cliffs before we got there

[mystic belfry]

Sunder isn't bad though, it's just that brutal is a good bit better for single target and horde

[gilded dock]

what weapons do you guys use the most?

[zealous wyvern]

you just need to play paranoid

[umbral scaffold]

Why momentum tho? Charged attacks have a lot of cleave already

[spark helm]

Which one is brutal momentum?

[jade notch]

"+15% Damage on Weakspot Hit, Weakspot Kills ignore Enemy Mass"

[mystic belfry]

Knife, shovel, power sword 6, las pistol, plasma mostly

[spark helm]

Yeah no that one is insane actually @ace pigdeon

[midnight mortar]

Behold Fatshark's Tech Heresy.

[gilded dock]

las pistol tjhat good?

[mystic belfry]

yes

[spark helm]

Literally helps you cleaves go smoother. Plus it's easy to land weakspot kills with the power sword mk4 on light attacks alone.

[flint garden]

rashad caxe my beloved

[mystic belfry]

TL:DR on momemtum, if you land headshots you effectively can get ~4 full damage hits per swing of your charged power sword, before your damage and cleaves starts going down as it normally does

Normally you get 1 full damage hit then your start using cleave values

[maiden trail]

Depends on what I'm doing but usually lasguns (torrent version) , chainsword (revved I've nuked ragers and such 1 hit marked)

[mystic belfry]

So brutal momentum clears hordes signficantly faster, and also adds a little weakpoints damage for breakpoints for killing crushers and whatnot

[spark helm]

^

It's really good.

[midnight mortar]

The Kantrael MG XII, Helbore Mk2, Power Sword mk6.

[mystic belfry]

You can run the other blessings, it's just a significant difference if you do

Even power cycler 3 (1 extra hit) and brutal momentum 1 will outperform any other combo at level 4 blessings

[stark hollow]

man if only the stopping power on this one wasnt shit

[flat pebble]

i’m not totally sure that’s the guns biggest problem

[radiant raptor]

that's like 5% missing potential, it doesn't matter

[flat pebble]

that’s a whole node

[radiant raptor]

in stats to clarify

[stark hollow]

80% charge is still p good

and perks are almost perfect

[median belfry]

knife vet is so filthy, guardsbros.

[mystic belfry]

Knife is great

[flat pebble]

20% maniac and 10% elite? what breakpoints is that hitting except maybe trapper and a shot gunner?

but yeah i don’t even stress about charge time it’s such a hard thing to even account for among the perks and blessings and other stats

[stark hollow]

havent tried it so wouldnt know

this is my current one

[sharp ember]

i see only perfection

[mystic belfry]

Basically meta

[stark hollow]

its beautiful

[sharp ember]

though i fail to see what 10% elites gains

[mystic belfry]

I wouldn’t touch that before doing other weapons

[stark hollow]

if only i had gets hot 4

[mystic belfry]

More than good enough

[sharp ember]

i run Unyielding to save ammo on blasting bulwarks and monsters

[mystic belfry]

Reapers too isn’t it

[stark hollow]

i 2 shot a bulwark with one normal and one charged

[sharp ember]

yeah if i'm not lazy and aim center mass

i haven't checked my HTK on a bulwark but i think it's 3 uncharged shots

1 to open, 2 to blow his brains out

[robust mesa]

what's the mod that adds sights

[stark hollow]

same for mine

[mystic belfry]

The imagination mod

[stark hollow]

its on the modding discord

[sharp ember]

alas then I'm just running it to krump monsters faster

[robust mesa]

Is that a whole separate discord

tf

[stark hollow]

yea

[robust mesa]

not on nexus?

lame

[sharp ember]

it's not for one mod

[robust mesa]

I have zero brain wrinkles

[stark hollow]

its a whole ass discord for mods some of which arent on nexus

cause some would make fs a lil salty if public

[sharp ember]

it's the collective place for every mod maker to discuss making and showcasing their mods

[mystic belfry]

Steam workshop mods when

[stark hollow]

although you can find the modding discord in the communities channel

[outer mulch]

What perk for the shovel? Flak?

[jovial nexus]

im gonna be so fuckign slow lmao

[mystic belfry]

Flak and maniac

[stark hollow]

who even needs speed

[shut vector]

i am trying to recover this shotgun is it better to upgrade no respite to 20% or flak damage to 25%

[sharp ember]

even fatshark staff hang out in that discord

[mystic belfry]

As long as you have max dodge count mobility is fine

If it s less, rip I guess

[umbral flame]

I'd say no respite

[robust mesa]

tf is the name of it

[stark hollow]

staff are people too

[stark hollow]

darktide modders

[jovial nexus]

i see

[stark hollow]

Darktide Modding Server
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[mystic belfry]

Fatshark help my mod broke

[stark hollow]

fatshark help the chinese $5 hacks i bought broke

[sharp ember]

guyz how do i mod in space marine class

[tranquil comet]

keep + reroll stuff or am i sad

[mystic belfry]

Usable if it’s second blessing is good

[tranquil comet]

is the damage roll being 72 a problem

[mystic belfry]

Won’t be the best possible but fixing the perks will be fine

[sharp ember]

not at all

[mystic belfry]

I mean it could be better but you don’t need it

72 damage 79 stopping is fine damage

[neon briar]

unyielding is pretty good on iag

[sharp ember]

stripped down ain't half bad if you must keep it locked

[tall torrent]

Keep, stripped down is good

[neon briar]

dumdum is the only good damage blessing, so no matter what you get when upgrading to gold you can have flak and dumdum

[tall torrent]

I’d say stripped down + dum dum is the way to go for IAGs

If you have duck & dive

[neon briar]

stripped down isnt my favorite now that we lost the movespeed buff

[tall torrent]

It’s such an insane thing to be able to tank 12 gunners just by sprinting

And keep sprint up indefinitely

[neon briar]

but imo every damage blessing besides dumdum sucks on iag (raking fire is alright though), so might as well get utility

[mystic belfry]

Works well with middle capstone for stam generation

[gilded dock]

okay yah the laser pistol is fucking insane

i love shooting people

[tall torrent]

Columnus IAG dmg is not that important of a stat
Very small variation

Would only gain 2 extra points of dmg if it was 80% dmg

[cosmic jacinth]

Does the corruption med skill heal my corruption or everyone's?

[midnight mortar]

It's teamwide.

[cosmic jacinth]

It wasn't healing this guys corruption

[desert hawk]

it wont heal full bars

so like if you have 3 bars

and 1 bar is fully purple

and 1 bar is like half

it'll heal the half bar

[midnight mortar]

It only heals up to 1 wound's worth.

So once someone's corruption is greater than 1 wound bar, that wound's corruption won't be healed.

But so long as it doesn't go over the next bar, it'll be healable within that 2nd bar.

[desert hawk]

Still worth the point tho cause the toughness in tight spots is nice

(also the healing speed)

[delicate estuary]

it heals up to a full corrupted wound

[ebon umbra]

worth the point in lower difficulties but def not in high tier

i've had decent success in the past with that and nade spam but i cant help but feel like i could have chose more dmg instead

[delicate estuary]

its a nice to have but the important part is the grenades you get form ammo boxes

[ebon umbra]

the medi heal is so fun tho

[open oasis]

I feel like a diet Zealot

[ebon umbra]

diet zealot>diet vet

but with that setup i feel the pain

[open oasis]

What's diet vet?

[ebon umbra]

i wish chainaxe was gaming

diet vet is a heavy gun zealot or rarely a gunpsyker imo

zealot just feels like it gives up too much going too gun heavy

[delicate estuary]

those are still better than the vet minus the infinite ammo

[lost epoch]

The fact that I have an insane revolver on psyker but cannot for the life of me get one on vet is infuriating

I've gotten terrifying barrage so many times

Pain

[ebon umbra]

i dont know i havent seen a gunpsyker or zealot be phenomenal in terms of gun efficiency

but thats my experience

i have seen good youtube vids and clips but those are usually premades

melee vet can go ham and bayonet gaming rn is lol

[lost epoch]

Which mark of helbore laz has the best bayonet?

[delicate estuary]

bayonet is technically an exploit

[ebon umbra]

revolver is great overall but vet uses it the best. you will just always be second to vet in terms of gun viability. PS, dclaw, current bayo and im not mentioning a few more weps just take so much less opportunity cost

[delicate estuary]

so wouldnt consider it

[lost epoch]

I've been gaming with the mk 3

[ebon umbra]

ofc but it exists

[delicate estuary]

doesnt mean it should be taken into account

[ebon umbra]

thats like saving blessing glitches shouldn't count lol

it currently exists in the meta, it is an anomaly but it performs. I get from a dev view but lol i dont know how we can say it doesnt count

Thats like saying infinite smite psyker shouldnt count

it was patch defining

[lost epoch]

It's wild how this is the case yet I still manage to get higher stats than most of my team which usually has a vet

[ebon umbra]

good player

but the labs dont lie

[lost epoch]

Thank the emperor

[delicate estuary]

yes because its something that eventually got fixed, just because something its broken it doesnt mean it will stay relevant for long. Its how everyone stopped using surge as much when they finally fixed the bug. People too busy abusing exploits and using them as comparison points

[ebon umbra]

but it is relevant currently

when it isnt we wont talk about it

this is whats going on now

it isnt personal its just opportunity cost

its kinda a compliment to zealot

imo

im not saying gunzealot cant perform to be clear

[midnight mortar]

The mk2. Mk1's is the same I believe, but I prefer the mk2's rifle characteristics.

[ebon umbra]

im v glad mk3 bayonet didnt take over the vet meta

[delicate estuary]

worst part is that when they fix the bayonet memes

[ebon umbra]

if the horde clear on that was crazy id die

[delicate estuary]

people will stop using the hellbores

[midnight mortar]

No way it could unless its profile was adjusted.

[delicate estuary]

[midnight mortar]

Even if its horde clear was strong, the damn thing's slow.

[ebon umbra]

i rarely see people use hellbores and hellbores have been strong for awhile

[midnight mortar]

It has movement slowing and and cooldown that's quite high.

The "strength" of helbores has always been mitigated by their switch time.

[paper brook]

Is the loose cannon Veteran Cadian?

[ebon umbra]

if u are used to hotswapping you are gonna be in trouble

[ebon umbra]

they dont have to be

i think all VAs can be cadian?

[paper brook]

Ahh

[midnight mortar]

It's Cutthroat that's Cadian.

The other personalities can talk about Cadia, but only the Cutthroat veteran has lines specifically about their Cadian origin assuming you choose Cadia as your homeworld.

[ebon umbra]

wow i didnt know that

that kinda sucks

[lost epoch]

Helbore is wild I never need an ammo pickup

[umbral scaffold]

The only two things holding it back are pull out speed and sights

[lost epoch]

I have a mod for sights

[umbral scaffold]

and then there are executioner's stance, which skips pull out, and mods

[lost epoch]

Glorious weapon customization

[midnight mortar]

Yeah I wouldn't be able to use the Helbore without a custom sight.

It's fucking impossible to use comfortably, let alone on the fly under pressure.

Sucks that it demands a mod to even be useable.

[lost epoch]

I even have a purity seal around my muzzle

[gleaming adder]

Only the cutthroat is Cadian. Prof and LC are from home-grown moebian domain guard regiments

[umbral scaffold]

Well, they can be from Cadia too

[noble onyx]

Gotta improve your pull out game

[umbral scaffold]

If you select Cadia in character creation

[mellow adder]

Should I change the perks or toss this out?

[delicate estuary]

my opinion is that its a toss

[gusty bison]

People have always underrated the helbore

Lel

Even when it was good

[delicate estuary]

I mean it is still good its just getting traction due to an exploit

its how everyone was abusing the surge staff with EP

[noble onyx]

The Helbore was mediocre at release, but became great with the first buff

[umbral scaffold]

crit helbore is an Emperor-grade ass

[gleaming adder]

Funnily enough, LC is CANNONICALY from a moebian regiment, there is a voice line talking about his "moebian groin-gouger" move which he learned from his old sarge

[umbral scaffold]

In the grim darkness of 41st millennium, character creation screen means nothing

Truly, it's Warhammer 40k: Darktide

[grizzled pebble]

Mk2 helbore guys do you use surgical? I shoot it too fast to get any surgical stacks.

[lost epoch]

My veteran is an algae farmer
Why?
Dunno

[grizzled pebble]

No respite is better for me.

[delicate estuary]

in the end ot he day we are a bunch of shitters that have no purpose in life so character creation indeed meets that standard

[lost epoch]

Thank you darktide

[umbral scaffold]

On one hand, Mk2 is too fast and weak to make use of surgical
On another, Helbore blessings besides it and Onslaught kinda suck

[grizzled pebble]

No respite can still do the funny against bonbon No?

[ebon umbra]

apparently there is a heat glitch with weapons specialists and plasma? is it worth? can anyone confirm?

[grim scarab]

Sustained Fire is fine though, and probably only fine on Helbore

[ebon umbra]

weapons specialist is v expensive

idk if i want the dps loss and ammo consumption increase

[umbral scaffold]

I honestly didn't notice a difference when I used it lol

[grizzled pebble]

Let me check in meatgrinder real fast.

[umbral scaffold]

Really, I used to prefer Mk2 but recently got myself an Mk1 and cannot let it out of my hands

Mediocre, maybe, but man it's fun

[grim scarab]

I simply got stuck with Mk3 since Surgical buff

[gusty bison]

Turns out a 30% increase in DPS does that xD

[umbral scaffold]

Mk3 feels clunky to me, like timings for shots are completely wrong

[gusty bison]

Yes

[glacial mist]

sorry if this is a dumb question but

is there a place for like

builds n stuff?

[gusty bison]

+10% crit is still +10% crot

[umbral scaffold]

Say, I make a shot, and then hold button for another but it just doesn't go

[glacial mist]

the skill tree seems to have been massively changed

[grizzled pebble]

Yeah it still works.

[glacial mist]

from what i can remember

it was like pick 1 out of 3 or 4 on each milestone when i last played

[lost epoch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds

[glacial mist]

thanks

[lost epoch]

Yw!

[umbral scaffold]

Gameslan-

ye

[lost epoch]

So what are the best blessings for helbore then? I'm running onslaught and surgical on a mark 3 and vibing

[grim scarab]

The input buffer problem of mk3 since launch, could get over it by changing your habit a bit though

[umbral scaffold]

For Mk3 I think it's best combo

[lost epoch]

Real

[grizzled pebble]

Veri cool

[gusty bison]

Mk 3 needs u to wait half a heartbeat before you can mouse down again

[lost epoch]

I use that sight too

[south spindle]

So for anyone missing Boltgun's old glory... 10% Elites + 25% Flak with Pinning/Surgical on Exe'/Marksman's nets you one shot breakpoint on everything except Crusher, two on Bulwarks if you count needing to open up the shield, have fun 🙂

[umbral scaffold]

God-Emperor, wtf

[grizzled pebble]

Yeah no respite does the funny on bonbon.

[dusty ferry]

Morning fellow vets

[lost epoch]

What does no respite do again

[grizzled pebble]

More damage to staggered enemies.

I can't play mk1 or 3. They are just too slow.

Feel really bad especially with how many shooters the game spawn now on some maps.

[grim scarab]

BON seems to receive stagger stacks with no limit when hit on the weakspot, so your extra no respite damage also stack with no limit. So they haven’t fixed it?

[midnight mortar]

The mk3 has input buffer issues between recognizing transitions from charged to uncharged to charged.

It's been reported, but it's not clear what if anything Fatshark can/will do.

[jade notch]

So that's why the Mk3 felt off to me

[ebon umbra]

mk3 is the drunk hellbore

[midnight mortar]

Yeah it's awful to use because of it.

You can never get a solid rhythm going.

[ebon umbra]

drunken fist

i go to bed now

[jade notch]

Yeah, which is why I settled on the Mk 1 (even if I do and have used a Mk 2 for Auric Damnation)

[ebon umbra]

[grim scarab]

At least now when you realize you are not initializing the next charge up, you are likely to get a guaranteed crit as compensation

[placid portal]

Luv mk3 for gun design alone

[jade notch]

Oh yeah, it's definitely got drip

Just, uhh, that buffer issue really makes it hard to use

[placid portal]

Only gotta give vet proper bayonet training

[cosmic jacinth]

What's got more dmg, the revolver or the hellbore lasgun?

[delicate estuary]

probably revolver due to consistency

much easier to swap to and much easier to aim

[dusty ferry]

Helbore does more damage

the charged shots that is

Revolver is better though if you want to do consistent high damage

[delicate estuary]

can it one shot a crusher with a headshot is the better question

[neon briar]

revolver yes

helbore mk3 no

[delicate estuary]

talking hellbore

[dusty ferry]

Well, in that case no

[cosmic jacinth]

The revolver does indeed just feel better but I wasn't sure

[delicate estuary]

yea so you have your answer

revolver is just busted atm

[neon briar]

hb mk3 has better dps on monstrosities

but yeah it cant beat revolver on burst damage

[mellow adder]

This a good deal for 2700 melk bucks?

[whole moon]

The HB1 n 2 have the melee issue too which can skew the issue right now

[delicate estuary]

I personally dont account exploits

but if you do sure

[placid portal]

Hellbore needs 2

Xp

[acoustic wyvern]

It hurts losing some ammo and it would work but i'd get sometging with better blessings

You'll also want flak and maniac for those chargers

[karmic musk]

Low ammo stat on a low ammo weapon

[whole moon]

Oh cool, it's confirmed is it? Got a link?

[delicate estuary]

you need a confirmation that an interaction is not intended ? Did they confirm the interaction of surge staff and it getting the bonuses from EP before fixing it ?

the same surge staff is still benefiting from the smite nodes

aka it can bounce to 3 targets if you pick that node

or how the revovler rending perk was applying on melee weapons

[whole moon]

I don't claim to know the minds of the Devs, sorry I asked if you had more information, I won't make that mistake again

[delicate estuary]

The way it was phrased I thought you were being sarcastic

apologies if that wasnt the case

[sharp ember]

meanwhile brauto shove isn't sweeping as intended in the patch notes and only hits 1 enemy

not critical but mildly annoying

[onyx nebula]

I truly do love using the ranged veteran class as a close range chain weapon fucking MONSTER

Daemonhost? No problem! Place a med pack down and we’ll grind her to dust

[placid portal]

Nice

[onyx nebula]

Zealot is good melee

[placid portal]

I am still learning how to survive daemonhost as vet ogryn is alright

[onyx nebula]

But the Veteran is still a Veteran

[placid portal]

Ogryn makes me stronk

[onyx nebula]

Slab shield

Thumb button

Fortify

[placid portal]

Using knife

[onyx nebula]

Pain

Just pain

Ain’t no surviving that

[placid portal]

I did by encouraging words from sah and a medipack

[onyx nebula]

My only issue is the FUCKING ON OVERWATCH PENANCE

[onyx nebula]

Great job

[placid portal]

Dont think too much qbout it

[onyx nebula]

I have to constantly hold rmb

[placid portal]

Was in panic tbh

[onyx nebula]

Even then my teammates aren’t there for me

[placid portal]

[umbral scaffold]

whats the easiest way to complete the make every shot count penance.

[onyx nebula]

Right

[nocturne mulch]

Bayonet

[onyx nebula]

Plasma gun

Assassination mission

[placid portal]

Revolver

[umbral scaffold]

?

[onyx nebula]

Save all ammo or just shoot elites and specialists

[nocturne mulch]

Bayonet weakspot hits absolutely destroy dh

[onyx nebula]

Use ammo for boss

Use remaining for any stragglers

[placid portal]

Right forgot how busted bayonets were

[onyx nebula]

Make sure not to have the scavenger talent

Make sure you use ALL the ammo on the boss and don’t miss a single shot

Unless you wanna try on other missions where you don’t have bosses to mag dump

That’s how I got my penance

It was fun

It’s very hard to miss with the plasma gun

[nocturne mulch]

Yup you can almost kill dh with bayonet before it can even do anything (if you use shout to stun it after it starts first attack chain)

[placid portal]

Or shotgun

[onyx nebula]

Bolter is a 80/30 chance of missing

[onyx nebula]

Eh

[placid portal]

One pellet hit still a hit

[onyx nebula]

You can still miss horribly

Depends on the shotgun

[onyx nebula]

I’m over using ranged rn

I’m all melee

[placid portal]

Tru

That 10% melee hits different eh?

[onyx nebula]

Not 10%

Entire tree built to it

[placid portal]

Also how lucius procs agile engagement by itself

[onyx nebula]

Grinding a daemonhost and other bosses down to nothing in half a minute

Or less

[placid portal]

Saying that makes me wanna boss rush Armored Core 6

[onyx nebula]

Try it

It’s painful

But fun

[placid portal]

Mecha gaming

Made a mech based on that old arcade game metal slug

[umbral scaffold]

easiest way to avoid melee damage for a penance?

[placid portal]

Infiltrate

Give your resposibilities to your teammates

[umbral scaffold]

fair.

[placid portal]

Or go Voice to top off toughness

[umbral scaffold]

alright

[placid portal]

Always be paranoid

Cutthroat vet is right about trust

[onyx nebula]

Easy

Max out block effec

For melee

Max out 2 stamina

Boom

Done

Easy

Get hit

Push

Back off

[placid portal]

Use your booming voice to say nah

[onyx nebula]

Yeah

[lethal plover]

I put some effort into making a fun Vet build using Weapon Spec, https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ab68135-7faa-43ef-9fbe-cbf00a23183f/space-cowboy-stealth-2

[pure chasm]

should take agile engagement

too good of a node with weapons specialist to not run

i run an extremely similar build regularly

just with different nodes

out for blood, agile engagement, overwatch, desperado, and exploit weakness

although i did make another version of weapons specialist with survivalist and voc earlier today
feels stronger but less funny stealth shenanigans

[timid otter]

Low profile

Whenever any vet survives difficult situations i assume they are running that

Usally im right.

But that talent is a crutch for bad plays by the veteran

Sending all the aggro from the veteran to teammates is not cool

[lethal plover]

If you read the description, I mention that it's mostly there to get rezzes and reposition. Eitherway, it's not something I use often (I made this yesterday lol)

[wind patio]

It’s more that they’re able to cause shenanigans while they’re focused elsewhere.

And killing things while they can’t retaliate is good

[timid otter]

Its bad for rezzes. Because when you rez someone the enemies will immeaditely get ganged on since no enemies will target you. This will usally lead to the ally quickly getting killed after res.

Instead of the aggro being split evenly leading to a more likely outcome of survival for the ally

[lethal plover]

I disagree, I've saved multiple matches by using infiltrate after my entire team goes down.

[timid otter]

Im not talking about infiltrate but low profile

[lethal plover]

Rez, use a moment to help clear things around them, move on.

[timid otter]

Its a sub talent

[delicate estuary]

can always throw a nade

its not rocket science

[lethal plover]

Even then, I still stand by it. And as N7 mention, you just clear the area around them once they rez. It's not like I'm rezzing and then vanishing from existance lol

[pure chasm]

i usually spam a few pushes on nearby enemies after rezzing since the rez gives u time to get some stamina back

[lethal plover]

And not getting wailed on because of the aggro break helps make sure you can clear the area around the Rez by pushing or just killing them.

Eitherway, if anyone tests out the build, let me know! I found it pretty fun to quick swap the revolver to always have a bullet on hand.

[pure chasm]

really good to stay at around 3 shots loaded with wep spec revo

being at 0 and reloading to 1 sucks if u miss ur first shot on a special or elite

[timid otter]

I just find it odd to invest into a talent that will make teammates lives harder

[pure chasm]

my version doesnt have the points for low profile no clue how it actually feels

[timid otter]

When talents can instead be used to increase killing power or survivability.

As a teammate it feels like shit.

[zealous wyvern]

it is to allow the person to carry out a good offense

[pure chasm]

overwatch is the only node i need

[timid otter]

Randomly enemies begin targetting you from differnent directions

[zealous wyvern]

or objectives

if a teammate complains because you get rid of aggro, they are either stupid or you are using the power wrong

[pure chasm]

pushing a gunner line as vet with melee

[delicate estuary]

dunno I personally dont mind it as it is an option people can pick in the game. I get caught off guard sometimes but I usually just adjust, the main issue I have with it is that the only way to know someone went stealth midgame is through what their character says

[pure chasm]

i wish i could catachan parry bullets

[timid otter]

The worst case is actually in maelstrom with monstrositys

[delicate estuary]

eh that isnt too bad since they are weakened means they just die almost instantly

[timid otter]

Every monstrosity begins aggroing everyone else

2 monstrositys aggroing someone can be a death sentence for them.

[pure chasm]

good theyre not on me

[timid otter]

Its more a question of time.

[delicate estuary]

I am mostly biased regarding monstrosities as I personally find only chaos spawns being an issue and I usually stay aware of who they aggro

[zealous wyvern]

dont use the ability in bad moments. it has its uses and has big potential to be misused making it the most difficult power to use

[pure chasm]

really though i fucking love when monstrosities are attacking me and i get to parry every hit

get fucked fleshbag

[timid otter]

Im defintely beliveing that the randos that use it dont know what they are doing

Regardless i highly doubt the one who created that build knows either

[pure chasm]

ur right
most pug stealth players just use it as a panic button

but if they do objectives while stealthed i forgive them

[delicate estuary]

it varies on whether I am on zealot or vet regarding stealth. But on zealot I will use it to insta kill bullwarks, reapers with a backstab, hunt for high value specials when they spawn, do objectives, unnet or revive people. For vet since cooldown is a tad bit harder to come by I usually use it to kill rager waves, specials, do objectives or just swap aggro on monsters so I can magdump them. To be honest I dont use the threat node as I dont have any nodes to spare

I just take the damage increase and call it a day

[nimble sentinel]

theory crafting time by committe because I gotta log on to work real soon:

Weapons Specialist with a las pistol + shock trooper, too many points or do I have my Kingsmen church scene vet build?

[delicate estuary]

voc or exe

[nimble sentinel]

weapon swapping so VoC, maybe infiltrator

[delicate estuary]

shjould be possible but you are hard locked to whatever nade those abilities are under

so I would voc with kraks

or well actually

you should be fine with either kraks or frags

[delicate estuary]

I will be trying something like this for recon guns

[nimble sentinel]

age restriction youtube bad, context if needed/wanted but it's luigi

[nimble sentinel]

lemme know how it goes

[placid portal]

Based

[delicate estuary]

yea will have to roll a recon gun first

and I just realised I only have 5 t4 blessings on knives

😭

missing uncanny 4

[nimble sentinel]

I wish I could rotoscope I want content of my vet doing cool hollywood shit

[placid portal]

Sounds like alot of effort much power to ya

[nimble sentinel]

my old graphics tablet is still on the wrong side of the ocean sadly

[placid portal]

Power of mouse

[nimble sentinel]

that shit ain't easy

[placid portal]

Exactly

[nimble sentinel]

[terse idol]

Okay to be faiiir

It's a pretty easy way to kill gunners without any risk for yourself, however... yes it's very easy to drop hordes onto your allies if you're not careful

But also allies who get rezzed need to start learning to block when they get rezzed, myself included

If we're speaking of getting really safe Rez's you probably want to throw a shredder grenade on them firist

[placid portal]

Just wanna be sneaky

[whole moon]

Limbsplitter to Uncanny, Block to Flak?

[delicate estuary]

this is not 100% true. Its very situational but when you res someone from either a full death or downed state next to crushers or maulers can be quite hazardous as if you dont time it properly they will insta die due to an overhead

[terse idol]

Yeahhh

[trim hemlock]

Sounds about right

[whole moon]

Cheers

[terse idol]

It's that difficulty of well yeah, what you said timing it right,
Going as far as to killing the crushers/maulers first , and unfortunately that might be the safest bet

[trim hemlock]

Unyielding kind of sucks as a perk on Shovel, although arguably it might still be better value than Block perk

[nimble sentinel]

yeh I had a run fail cause I got sniped, rezzed, and not a milisecond later OHK by the crusher my teammate ignored

[pure chasm]

this happened to me earlier it was so sad

i literally could not even dodge or react

[trim hemlock]

Decimator is also a good blessing if you don’t care about better ADMs with Uncanny

[pure chasm]

the instant i was up i got crushered
i dont think i even got to see my own ui load my health bar
just went from rez animation -> dead

[whole moon]

Ive got Take A Swing, Thrust, Thunderstrike, Trauma and Decimator as other options?

[delicate estuary]

yes

its one of the things that I learnt the hard way along with dodging crusher/mauler overheads

when there are other people meleeing

[whole moon]

Ill give decimator a go, no biggie, the slot can be changed

[delicate estuary]

dodging a mauler/crusher overhead into a teammate is quite the experience

[urban steppe]

is dis good to buy ?

[trim hemlock]

Take a Swing can also be well-paired with Uncanny in a way, although it is a bit gimmicky in practice

[delicate estuary]

ye thats fine

[trim hemlock]

It’s good, take it

[delicate estuary]

hadron will brick it anyways

[pure chasm]

it's just dockets you can buy and keep it forever until you decide to brick it

[urban steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-angry-scream-screaming-rodent-gif-26214325

shhh

[pure chasm]

i do that for everything i see around 365-370 or higher

[delicate estuary]

talk to me when you roll +stamina and sprint efficiency along with a stam blessing

[umbral scaffold]

The omnissiah gives his strongest soldiers his shittiest weapons

Now start running that marathon he prepped you for

[pure chasm]

[delicate estuary]

I would be hadron's most loyal of servitor as long as she stopped eating my plasteel

[umbral scaffold]

What's the best possible stats a weapon can get?

[delicate estuary]

380 so that would be 4 stats at 80 and a 1 stat at 60

[trim hemlock]

I.e., what’s the max sum of its modifiers?

[umbral scaffold]

Those %

[pure chasm]

the max sum is 380 like literally 380

80+80+80+80+60

[trim hemlock]

The max is 380, yeah

[umbral scaffold]

Thanks guys

[urban steppe]

now what

[exotic acorn]

quick question, is exhilarating takedown still bugged?

[terse idol]

No

It got fixed last patch

Veterans don't take double damage now 😌

[exotic acorn]

k thanks

[delicate estuary]

you mean triple

[terse idol]

🥹

[delicate estuary]

heretic detected

can someone execute

[nimble sentinel]

that's actually real good, MAYBE headshots for flak but that's good to go out the box

[delicate estuary]

I bet you he sucked nurgles beast to get that roll

[nimble sentinel]

the Omnisiah blessed you this day

[urban steppe]

change it on this ?

[delicate estuary]

you want to keep full bore

I think ?

[urban steppe]

idk never had shotguns

[nimble sentinel]

does the slug still count as "all pellets"? if so definitely keep

either way the spread on the agri is tight, that'll proc a lot

[urban steppe]

than gonna change perks only

hm

[quick burrow]

your spread is tight

[delicate estuary]

perks are also fine

change weak spot to maniac

[terse idol]

Respite for death spitter?
Or is it the one blessing you want that does more damage the more shots you hit?

[delicate estuary]

and leave blessings as is

[quick burrow]

literally i love the lasguns i just wish they didnt nerf shock trooper

[delicate estuary]

since I cant give an opinion on blessings for shotguns

[urban steppe]

already have maniacs

[delicate estuary]

flak then

my bad

[nimble sentinel]

even then tho

you got a god roll my dude

[delicate estuary]

like I said

he sucked nurgle's beast

heresy detected

[quick burrow]

u want no respite death spitter flak maniac

[nimble sentinel]

I'd give it a test run or 2 before locking things off

[urban steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-necron-gif-17816277693703384207

[delicate estuary]

just replace weak spot with flak and do some research regarding the blessings

[urban steppe]

now i need a build for him

[livid fractal]

hows pgun rn

[delicate estuary]

pgun ?

plasma ?

[livid fractal]

ja

[delicate estuary]

BiS along with revolver

[delicate estuary]

I dont appreciate this

[livid fractal]

i'm 3-tapping crushers and 1-tapping reapers with a 3/4 built revolver on zealot, i'm TERRIFIED of what plasma gun can do

[delicate estuary]

revolver can 1 tap crushers

on vet

its probably better than plasma currently

[livid fractal]

time to make the Stihltm Farm Boss build

[urban steppe]

2 charged taps for crushers 1 tapping for me and i have marksman build on it

[delicate estuary]

Also I think you dont need a keystone for either

you can just run whatever

[livid fractal]

shovel + revolver

[forest maple]

So are we even getting the skins this month?

[livid fractal]

im gonna fuck shit up

[delicate estuary]

supposedly

[livid fractal]

new weps in TC2?

[urban steppe]

time to hunt heretics and test shotgun

[livid fractal]

that shotgun skin makes me feel things

[delicate estuary]

most speculations indicate for new weapons yes

the skins are confirmed for the end of november but no actual date has been posted

[urban steppe]

im running with this build as plasma / bolter for a normal damn , for maelstorm using marksman ofc

you can go on a left for this ofc

[delicate estuary]

how does deadshot work with plasma

[umbral scaffold]

Why middle tree up until exe?

I know ammo recovery with survivalist is pretty bad with plasma but at least team benefits

... Most of the time

[urban steppe]

you can remove it but yeh

[livid fractal]

isnt bolter shit?

[delicate estuary]

because nobody likes feeding a kickback ogryn

everytime I get one on my team that non stop spams

makes me wish I didnt run survivalist

[umbral scaffold]

Thats fair

[livid fractal]

whats wrong with kickback

[urban steppe]

never spaming as a plasma lool only taking elites

[delicate estuary]

[urban steppe]

ogryns and fck gunners

[livid fractal]

whats wrong with the 0.06 gauge shotgun

[umbral scaffold]

Its more or less just a sniper for ogryns (but also has horde clear capability) right now

[livid fractal]

hehe that sounds goofy as fuck i gotta try this

[umbral scaffold]

I dont typically enjoy ranged weapons being all-in-one problem solvers but to be honest its super fun to use

Just maybe not so much for teammates lol

[livid fractal]

last time i used kickback it felt really bad

[delicate estuary]

me trying to reset my exe stance from shooting a sniper

ogryn pulls out kickback

staggers sniper into the ground

unlucky I guess

[livid fractal]

oh i see

[delicate estuary]

yea now move at 30 meters away

and try again

also pair with surgical

[livid fractal]

oh i see

[umbral scaffold]

I have to resort to the Ogryn's hand-cannon loaded with grape shot. "For the emprah!", the grape shot shreds seventeen men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms.

[terse idol]

Kickback is a liiitle good

🤏

[urban steppe]

and this is my maelstorm plasma build , ofc its not for a spamming shots

for me its feels good

[livid fractal]

only thing its kinda shit against is carapace

[delicate estuary]

I need to learn to make mods for darktide so I can put custom sounds for different weapons @terse idol

fart reverb everytime a kickback is fired

[terse idol]

Ogrn channel would love that that's for sure

[livid fractal]

oh hows my vraaks?

and my helbie

and my pgun

[delicate estuary]

you can yeet that one

[mental parcel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz9XYRo-NzY

[livid fractal]

oh also is this goofy-ah chaxe worth anything

was an emprah's gift

[delicate estuary]

if you dont have surgical just earn blessing on that btw

[mental parcel]

most unfair ambush at the end and i was so close to surviving

[livid fractal]

pgun worth trying to build into?

[delicate estuary]

if reload speed was maniac instead it would have been fine but you want surgical on mk3

plus onslaught

[umbral scaffold]

Would have Deadly Accurate rather than ghost but the perks are already mid

[delicate estuary]

Like I said just yoink surgical from it

[umbral scaffold]

Ye 100%

[delicate estuary]

and yes headhunter deadly accurate are superior

[umbral scaffold]

The pgun could be better but truthfully it isnt an absolutely game-changing difference if you just run what you already showed with decent blessings/perks

As we all know how often Hadron likes to destroy any weapon you hand her

[delicate estuary]

you could replace RAM with plasteel and chrome icon with hadrons face and yuou could have a perfect replacement for that meme

"hadron are you eating my plasteel again"

[terse idol]

Pgun I would recommend trying to get max 80 TR so you can get ooone more left click out

For 9

Also, because I can't tell if the left click charge rate damage bug is fixed or not
You want 73% charge rate because for some reason charge rate affects left click damage in a weird way

[delicate estuary]

was told that it has to do with server ticks

[terse idol]

That is still weiiird

Charge rate should only affect the right click FS pls

[delicate estuary]

FS THIS

dont think I can post that gif

hopefully you understood

[opal dove]

You are confused. Something exploded seconds ago. No weapon in your hands. Piercing through a smoke cloud, some filthy heretics appear in front of you. There's a columnus and a headhunter within your reach, on the ground. Which one do you take?

[terse idol]

Also I'm running a theory where you don't need maximum 80% charge rate because the difference in miliseconds becomes small enough that you won't feel a difference at all

[minor brook]

columnus v is so damn good

[terse idol]

And it won't affect dps, but im not into math

[minor brook]

i think its the closest you can get to a mario weapon

just good at everything

[delicate estuary]

if you ignore the math

how can it hurt you

[terse idol]

[delicate estuary]

we are still talking about a 20 damage difference

[terse idol]

Well besides anything with flak

Oh right

[umbral scaffold]

The Emperor's most ignorant warriors get his easiest battles

[delicate estuary]

I wont lose my sleep over that

[terse idol]

Because even if charge rate affects left click the damage change is minimal 😌

[minor brook]

i mean even against flak it still is pretty damn good

get that brittleness perk on repeated hits

[delicate estuary]

just stop questioning what the emperor gives you and you will be fine

[minor brook]

40% more damage taken

[rapid lion]

the emperor knows all , if you need to receive less 20 of damage , it is the best for you.

[delicate estuary]

exactly

its nice to max out 1%-2% damage increases but does it matter in the end of the day

[minor brook]

71% is the sweet spot iirc on plasma

for charge rate

[terse idol]

Yeeahhh, I guess something more significant like %damage or stopping power is waay more important

[minor brook]

weird voodoo magic trickery

[terse idol]

And maxing TR

[rapid lion]

dude I enjoy infernus on my kentrael , makes a difference facing armored targets.

[terse idol]

Its just like, not the difference between breakpoints

[minor brook]

yea true

i think a weird thing about stats though is the stability stat

when people are levelling up and trying autoguns

theyre absolute garbage because their whole screen starts shaking firing their 20% stability autogun

and then they think the gun is garbage

thats what i thought when i first started playing

[terse idol]

Thanks FS

[delicate estuary]

I have a 40% stability 80% on all other stats autogun

[quick burrow]

at 79% stability my mk5 still shakes my screen like crazy jumping up and down at least on the intial pull

[thick rose]

so du krak

sweet krak

[rapid lion]

oh yeah but for infinite grenades I prefer frag.

My menthality is basically john darktide : shoot with the kentreael XII and if it dont die , bring the power sword and go for melee.

never failed me all this time.

[thick rose]

tbh I do the same thing

I find most teams can kill heavy armor as fast or faster than a krak goes off and id rather have the interupt

[rapid lion]

the only guns I have besides like 3 variants of the kentrael XII is the bolter and the plasma gun. But I barely use them at all.

[minor brook]

i love spraying columnus into a horde

[rapid lion]

only if the team request it before entering the match

[minor brook]

i just put it head level

and shake my mouse left and right

[rapid lion]

accatran I only use in malice lmao.

[minor brook]

then i get a voiceline telling me how awesome i am

damnation quickplay is definitely my favorite way to go

havent tried aurics yet

anyone know a good revolver build?

[astral blade]

So i don’t mean to be tooting the vet horn rn but us vets are generally the only ones capable of actually holding a shitty group together

That being VOC or us stealth vets

Exe vets well we don’t talk about them

[gaunt delta]

When was the Krieg cosmetic pack released? I want to commemorate the anniversary as “Kriegsday”

[delicate estuary]

stinky voc abusers

[gaunt delta]

I wonder if it correlated with any change in the winrate

[delicate estuary]

just shoot everything on sight on exe vet

isnt that hard

[trim hemlock]

2023-10-02 IIRC

[astral blade]

Sure it isn’t that hard but I’m terms of holding the team together Exe vet doesn’t bring anything to the table in that regard

[delicate estuary]

well thats why I consider it the hard mode vet setup

[trim hemlock]

Hold on, it might have been 2023-10-05, as 02 is Monday and 05 is Thursday

[astral blade]

So let me guess VOC vet is easy mode vet

Stealth vet is medium mode vet

[sharp ember]

definitely easiest to get value from

consistently

[delicate estuary]

more or less

[dusty basalt]

Stealth is clutch vet in my experience

Free revives and -90% threat go brrrr

[astral blade]

Indeed stealth vet is probably the most versatile vet

[delicate moat]

would shovel work with skullcrusher + uncanny?

[delicate estuary]

but yes I feel the same way when I play exe stance and only do it just to see how much I can carry lobbies and how much bullshit I can pull off but its considerably harder than VoC

[sharp ember]

that's fine, skullcrusher is essentially No Respite in how it works

functionally deals more damage when smacking staggered enemies

[astral blade]

My guy Exe stance ain’t versatile that shit is just raw dog pure damage

[dusty basalt]

I just run max reloadspeed bolter with exe, skip most of the bolter switching animation when using the ability

Just mag dump down the hallway

[delicate estuary]

never said it was

as in it's the hardest to use

[astral blade]

I mean you kinda implied it with this comment

First line of text

[delicate estuary]

was too lazy to scroll up to your initial statement

[astral blade]

“But yes I feel that way when I play Exe stance”

[delicate estuary]

@astral blade

[sharp ember]

feels bad when you're swamped in melee and exe stance does basically nothing

[patent swift]

this

[delicate estuary]

does this satisfy your need for clarification

[astral blade]

This ^

[delicate estuary]

you press exe stance to pull oout your weapon and hipfire that hoe of a trapper or whatever else spawns

[astral blade]

[delicate estuary]

something VoC users wouldnt understand

[astral blade]

Like I said stealth vets are the most versatile vets than followed closely by VOC vets

[frank ledge]

VoC and exe users on their way to complain

Infiltration users about to do minimal amounts of trolling:

[bitter turtle]

stealth is not the most versatile

[delicate estuary]

I would put VoC over stealth

[bitter turtle]

b/c you are taxed 4 pts to use it

so you have less utility just from your tree suffering

lul

[delicate estuary]

^^

[sharp ember]

voc users stun trappers with horrible name-calling, buying time to whop out and shoot them

[bitter turtle]

honestly

[sharp ember]

while nearby enemies also recoil from the sheer toxicity in your words

[bitter turtle]

at this point

[delicate estuary]

voc users requiring 0 braincells on how to press the ability button

[bitter turtle]

shredder frag and survivalist

should just be the middle path

[astral blade]

I didn’t get to finish

[bitter turtle]

to minimize the amount of dmg the imbalance in favor of them do to the viability of the skills

like infiltrate suffers just because its the farthest skill from survivalist

[astral blade]

In terms of versatility stealth vets are probably the best but yes while the modifiers are quite taxing

[dusty basalt]

Eh I don't run survivalist with infiltrate

[astral blade]

When it comes to the vet tree

[bitter turtle]

well there you go

your utility already suffers

you didnt run survivalist

[delicate estuary]

thats fine

[bitter turtle]

my point exactly

[delicate estuary]

need to limit kickback ogryns somehow

[dusty basalt]

Im using a revolver I never run out of ammo

[sharp ember]

just bank on another vet running it, it's so popular you can go against the grain

[bitter turtle]

your team utiltiy suffers in general

i assume we're talking about team utility

[delicate estuary]

thats also fine

[bitter turtle]

b/c most of the utiltiy invis offers is for the team as a whole

[delicate estuary]

people need to learn how to use ammo

[bitter turtle]

4 points is being generous btw

in reality

its mor elike 5-6 points

because shout only needs 1 subtalent

vs infiltrate wanting like 3

[delicate estuary]

you can run inflitrate with just 1

[astral blade]

While yes invis may seem like a selfish ability you really only need low profile

[delicate estuary]

the damage one is enough

[bitter turtle]

exec stance shares this problem but its less taxing since its right under survivalist

[dusty basalt]

I just run the -90% threat honnestly

Enemies ignore you as you shred their backline

[bitter turtle]

sure, you can say th at you only need 1

but like

[astral blade]

Dis^

[bitter turtle]

in reality

you really WANT more than one talent