veteran-class

[civic venture]

Because I have Power Cycler IV

I can switch one of the blessings out.

[umbral flame]

I've only managed to get III

[fickle siren]

I'd switch out Wrath for Cycler

[civic venture]

Alright, thanks!

[peak token]

how long did it take to get power cycler 4

[civic venture]

[civic venture]

Not very long tbh, it was on one of my first orange power sword for a long time, but the stats were poor. So I gave it to Hadron, I'd say about few days after the Class Rework patch?

[sinful sedge]

yowza:

[swift bear]

I honestly heard that gun psykers are fucking nuts... they just use double the ammo of vets

[manic flax]

whats the difference between the lucius mark 2 and the mark 1

[topaz pebble]

Mark 1 shoots faster

Mark 2 does more damage

[cunning sandal]

In my experience of doing double the damage of Vet players, I actually use half the amount of ammo.

[manic flax]

d a m a g e

[swift bear]

wait... are you using a psyker build?

[cunning sandal]

[topaz pebble]

Try out gun psyker with scriers and disrupt destiny

Its stupid fun and really strong

[cunning sandal]

Empowered Psionics >

[topaz pebble]

Im not touching my blitz kek

[cunning sandal]

DD has a stupid design flaw in the marking system tbh

Plus, losing all stacks at once hurts.

[topaz pebble]

They made it so that it marks the trash mobs with flak

[cunning sandal]

It always did, they just made it visible.

[fickle siren]

What's the go to weapon for Gun Psyker anyway? I was thinking Crit Burn Laspistol

[topaz pebble]

Its pretty manageable, especially if you take the 30s one

Any gun really

[cunning sandal]

Laspistol, Revolver, Columnus IAG, or Vraks Mk III Headhunter

Those are the Top 4

[topaz pebble]

I run laspistol revolver or colomnus

[fickle siren]

Sweet

[topaz pebble]

You actually cant see past your barrel cause you crit so often with the columnus

Its comical

[umbral flame]

you can do double the amount of damage of vets while using 0 ammo whats your point

[cunning sandal]

Gun Psyker has drastically higher DPS than Staff Psyker in exchange for being subjected to The Ammo Economy™️

[civic venture]

So I just recently been running revolver and holy hot damn does it kill. 2 shots on Crusher headshots on Damnation. I am now a believer of the revolver(been going MKII Helbore for the longest time)

[topaz pebble]

Revolver is genuinely stupid

One taps nearly everything

Super ammo efficient

[civic venture]

Like I don't even use Boltors anymore.

[topaz pebble]

No boltors suck hot ass IMO

Takes 15 years to pull out for a terrible ammo economy, awful feeling recoil, and subpar damage

[civic venture]

honestly if I need big gun damage, I just switch to my plasma gun.

[topaz pebble]

I dont run plasma just cause of the ammo economy being crippling

Like every now and then I bring it out

[iron marten]

I still personally like the bolter, but I mainly do surgical bolter now, instead of the pre-patch 13 insta-reload bolter

[topaz pebble]

The only time I ever use boltors is just magdumping a crusher or bulwark

Death to bulwarks

[civic venture]

Been happy with this Plasma gun

It kind of just deletes whatever it touches lol

[mental parcel]

i want a pink hat too

[swift bear]

How can I get Power Cycler? Is it only Tier 4? So just upgrade weapons until max tier?

[iron marten]

Power Cycler also exists in T3

[mental parcel]

or after missions you earn blessings for the weapons

[iron marten]

but yeah, pray to Hadron, or Melk shop in hopes of getting Power Cycler 4

[civic venture]

Do you think they will add in a red rarity weapons with stats between 80%-100% with a chance of T5 Blessings? A man can wish...

[umbral flame]

melk or play the rng game with plasteel

or get really fucking lucky with your big E gift

[mental parcel]

also every blessings has tier 1 to 4

[iron marten]

this is how I got mine haha

[umbral flame]

I finally found t3 power cycler in milk's shop yesterday

[civic venture]

Yeah I got mine through Emperor's Gift for Power Cycler 4

[umbral flame]

wish I found it back before the nerf

[iron marten]

got mine shortly after the pre-order beta

7 heavy empowered swings

is the funniest shit

and it having infinite cleave as well

[swift bear]

Is power cycler 3 only one extra hit since tier 4 is 2 extra hits?

[mental parcel]

i have it, and i can only do 3

[iron marten]

this was before it got nerfed

[mental parcel]

when was it nerfed?

[topaz pebble]

Cycler 3 is good enough for mk6 ps

[umbral flame]

I enchanted at least 5 PS to trans before the nerf and nothing

[iron marten]

like Jan-Feb?

[candid tundra]

hey guys 2 questions for an agri shotgun melee build

1. Exploit weakness or skirmisher?
2. Close order drill or on your toes? (activating ranged specialist replens 20% toughness)

[mental parcel]

ah ok nvm

[iron marten]

it was funny cause you can probably tell from the steam graph reviews, the game got review bombed for it lmao

[topaz pebble]

I take exploit

[humble meteor]

it truly was the crutchsword

[topaz pebble]

And I only put the point into the auto reload for weapon specialist

[iron marten]

even with the first nerf back then, it was STILL the best melee weapon in the game

that and vet was just op as shit

[umbral flame]

idk game was getting review bombed for a while

[topaz pebble]

Pre nerf vet was actually comically broken

[iron marten]

truey

[humble meteor]

i do remember the complaints that ps vets were trivialising the game

[astral blade]

Ya know what I find kinda funny people hate Gunners but no one wants to deal with them

And make them priority number 1

[umbral flame]

power sword without cycler did make hordes comically easy so I kinda see it

[topaz pebble]

Cause volley fire is fun until Nurgle's strongest poxwalker smacks you upside the head

[humble meteor]

3000 silent poxwalkers spawning behind you

[iron marten]

I used sustained fire for the longest time

[topaz pebble]

With 3 maulers and crushers in the group

[iron marten]

the toughness regen and insta reload was lmao

[humble meteor]

i used to love volley fire revolver countershooter

exec stance builds feel so mid now

[astral blade]

Literally soon as those gunners pop my dumbass will use infiltrate and try to kill those bastards

Cause someone gotta do it

[iron marten]

they need to buff exec stance. Only reason to use it now is for plasma, wallhacks, and one tapping crushers with revolver

every decent IAG, and Lasgun user I've seen uses VoC

[humble meteor]

2 points for highlight + reset 💀

[iron marten]

💀

if they buffed the damage, I'd take it way more

[umbral flame]

I miss my wall hacks but voc too good

[astral blade]

Serious question to my fellow vets soon as gunners spawn do y’all make them priority number 1?

[topaz pebble]

Why'd they even add the bigger they are

[serene bough]

only if I'm not neck deep in a horde

[topaz pebble]

The only reason i ever took it was for the large damage boost

[serene sage]

no, im using the bolter and don't have Determined

i ain't shooting shit

[serene bough]

people can learn to LoS and prevent ranged fire from damaing them

[topaz pebble]

Why would I ever spend a point to highlight ogryns

[serene sage]

depends on the gun you can take it

[topaz pebble]

Especially if it locks out counterfire

[umbral flame]

hard to see you know

[serene sage]

for example bolter would rahter have it than the counterfire one

[topaz pebble]

I still wouldnt

[serene sage]

i would argue revolver can use it better too

[astral blade]

People using Line of sight that will be the day when I see that happen

[serene sage]

but i will admit it's really niche

[humble meteor]

problem is bulwarks with revolver tho

[iron marten]

hello, do you have any tips for bolter, cause I'm currently doing a surgical build with it. I kinda want to magdump again lol

[humble meteor]

i think u can 1shot reapers regardless

[serene sage]

who cares about them as long as you use it

[serene sage]

mag dump you much prefer shattering impact imo

[topaz pebble]

Melee the bulwark with revolver special action

It rotates them

For some unknown reason

[iron marten]

yeah I still have my bolter from pre-patch 13, which had shattering impact, and pinning fire

[serene sage]

also control your hipfire, you can 2 shot gunners and 3 shot ragers bodyshot

[humble meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/get-rotated-get-rotated-idiot-rotate-rotation-shark-gif-24511062

[iron marten]

my 2k hours on csgo will help with this

[astral blade]

I mean I do use LoS when possible but I will prioritise gunners when my teammates are dumber than an ogryn so they don’t die and start complaining

[serene bough]

the concept of tonic immobility makes sharks 100x cuter to me

[serene bough]

silly revolver shenanigans

[humble meteor]

wtf

[serene sage]

you probably have much better aim than i do lol

[astral blade]

And trust your average darktide player is dumber than an ogryn sorry to any ogryns in this chat

[humble meteor]

nothing can stop me now

[serene bough]

as long as you give the ogryns a hug for trying their best its ok

[serene sage]

but you can do this, basically you have 7.5 shots with the bolter which is enough to take care of packs as long as you dont miss your tapfire

obviously this is ideal scenario, but very often you can duck and dive into melee range

and pretend you have a shotgun

[serene bough]

how2bolter

share build pls @serene sage

[astral blade]

My guy I’ll happily have an ogryn teammate watching my back any day of the week rather than a psyker

Those shooting ogryns in the ass is annoying but eh pros outweigh the cons

[serene sage]

this one?

idek if 8 stack ping is worth it when 10% melee is right there

but thematically it's cool ig xD

[serene bough]

i will steal this and try it

[topaz pebble]

8 stacks is worth it only for redirect fire

[serene sage]

idk how this shows up on Discord but here ig

[slender crown]

first one i got power cycler on (only 3 :( ) but also got BM4 so im pretty happy and it will now replace my old one

dont have the plasteel to fix the perks for now tho

[dusk idol]

you can still pick up pc4 on it so it's a god roll

[junior grail]

For a moment there, I thought its a 2 handed powersword

[serene sage]

yeah almost perfect PS6

i would say PC3 to PC4

and leave everything the same

[junior needle]

specialist damage should go to something more productive

[serene sage]

ig Specialist to Carapace if you are into the whole 2 shotting Crusher things

[dusk idol]

could swap out specialist to carapace for the crushers

[slender crown]

problem, i was upgrading pcs to GET pc4 bc i didnt have any pc yet

[slender crown]

that was the plan

[dusk idol]

good luck

[green sage]

Does anyone know how long it takes to revive a person? I want to see just how much of a difference 50% revive speed makes.

[serene sage]

but imma be real, i don't pole Crushers that often lel

[dusk idol]

you either get it super fast or super slow

[slender crown]

but honestly, i think im just gonna go flakiac bc ragers are agonizing

that or maniac and elites

[dusk idol]

i was grinding for pc4 since before they reworked powercycler

only got it a couple months after the rework

[umbral scaffold]

who wants in on some darktide gayming

[dusk idol]

are you in apac?

[umbral scaffold]

already got 2/4

[slender crown]

i just starting farming for it yesterday

[green sage]

And, yeah, I've tried googling how long it takes to revive someone. I can't find it.

[umbral scaffold]

sorry no NA west if that works

[slender crown]

5 or so seconds

[dusk idol]

😭

[serene sage]

2.5s second revive is like, so so fast

assuming 5s revive

[umbral scaffold]

just lag its fine its the authentic darktide experience

[serene sage]

which seems to be true

[green sage]

@slender crown @serene sage thanks

[dusk idol]

i was playing auric earlier today

i haven't played for like 5 days and i'm already playing like dogshit

[last pewter]

iirc 2,5 seconds is roughly the same time it takes to free someone from a net

could be wrong though

[tender rose]

i believe its 1.5

[serene sage]

Zoron with 50% revive speed

get the fuck up we have shit to do

[slender crown]

i thought nets were 0.5

[umbral scaffold]

isnt it dependent on stats like its affected by revive speed

its quicker for me on some builds

[slender crown]

i didnt think so

but i could be wrong

[umbral flame]

idk if its a placebo but even just 10% revive speed seems to help alot

[swift thistle]

join combat medic vet or you are missing out

[umbral scaffold]

its multiplicative if i remember right so its not just 10%+ more revive speed

its more like 10%x revive speed

i could be wrong dont quote me on that

[slender crown]

GOD why does this little fuck ass node exist

[umbral scaffold]

but 10% revive speed would be anemic otherwise

[serene sage]

well a part of me hopes they don't remove it

[umbral flame]

you will take the +15 toughness and you will like it

[serene sage]

because right above is 5% move speed

also toughness is neat

[slender crown]

i shake my fist at thee

[serene sage]

heresy but I think we are doing okay in term of fillder nodes

we have talent bloats

not filler bloats

some fillers are god tier like 5% move speed and 10% melee

[slender crown]

yea ive noticed

[serene sage]

born leader can die

that's all I will say

[umbral scaffold]

who here runs determined

amazin to gun down the 3000 gunners raining hell on you

without shaking like michael j fox

[serene sage]

I would run Determined

IF I HAVE ANY POINTS LEFT

[umbral scaffold]

how do i take a cool pic of my entire talent tree

[serene sage]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

use this link friend

[umbral scaffold]

thanks

[slender crown]

if you really wanted you could jsut run ghost or that other one

[umbral scaffold]

im gonna give it a shot and copy my first loadout build i use for ex stance

[slender crown]

but i suppose thats an entire blessing slot

[serene sage]

there's also a shrink mod but im too lazy to install, it also looks ugly xD

[slender crown]

if only

[iron marten]

sorry, got in a game, but I seee

[serene sage]

yeah just body shot xD

but hey, don't miss your body shots

so skill demonstration?????????????????????

[umbral scaffold]

not taking any criticism cause ur criticism is probably wrong anyway xx 💅

[slender crown]

this is what im trying

[south prairie]

Just serrated blade for melee? What is your melee of choice?

[umbral scaffold]

that loadout i use combat knife

[serene sage]

bayonet probably

weak

[slender crown]

bc today i saw someone today with a mk IV lasgun with infernus and was stealthing but i didnt ask what his build was so im experimenting

[umbral scaffold]

i got a godroll knife and its effective

[slender crown]

i want the keystone but i want the grenade regen but i also hate the gameplay of the keystone

[south prairie]

Huh, i never use my knife without trench fighter drill

[stark hollow]

is the atrox axe good?

[whole moon]

That's the Tac Axe yeah? (TAxe)

[stark hollow]

yea

[whole moon]

They are fast but I think most ppl go for the Combat Axes

[stark hollow]

do they share blessings?

[whole moon]

Nope

[hollow lion]

is sunder any good?

[stark hollow]

damn

[hollow lion]

for the psword

[stark hollow]

generally people go Power cycle 4 and rampage/brutal momemtum

[whole moon]

Pattern Mk XX FamilyName
Blessings are only shared within FamilyName

But they are shared between characters on your account

[stark hollow]

ah

does anyone know what to go for for a combat axe

[whole moon]

Rashad is the better Combat Axe, aim for that

[astral blade]

savable or brick?

[stark hollow]

id say savable

[whole moon]

Headtaker I think is one preferred blessing

[stark hollow]

swap raking and reload and its decent

[stark hollow]

ah the only one i dont have

of course

[stark hollow]

unless you want raking fire for stealth build

[midnight mortar]

Veterans must pay the Veteran tax.

[tall torrent]

It’s power cycler + brutal momentum/sunder

[stark hollow]

then you can swap both perks instead

[tall torrent]

Sunder allows u to cleave melee elites

[stark hollow]

currently rampage is goated though

[whole moon]

Decapitator is that an option? I have decimator on mine but I wouldn't recommend, drops it's stacks on a missed swing

[astral blade]

mhm i sure do

[tall torrent]

Not as good as brutal momentum and sunder is a huge QoL improvement in dealing with mixed horde

[stark hollow]

idk i mainly use my sword for clearing ads

[tall torrent]

Then brutal momentum is just the best

[south prairie]

I personally would use dclaw or shovel (shovel is good, shovel is great) if im strictly meleeing ads

[stark hollow]

so far these two have served me really well

[slender crown]

oooo i like how that first one looks

[astral blade]

she aint perfect but she one hell of a beast

[stark hollow]

nice.

[stark hollow]

shes a beaut

my special child

what would y'all change on this chsword?

[midnight mortar]

At the very least, the melee critical hit damage.

Chainswords aren't really about critting and you'd get more mileage out of something else.

[stark hollow]

any reccomandations for changes?

[midnight mortar]

I used flak/maniac on my chainsword back when I equipped it.

Bruisers are annoying to kill. Flak ragers even moreso.

[stark hollow]

kinda dont want rev it up

not sure what would be good to put on it

[midnight mortar]

Oh I thought you wanted that, yeah I'd switch that to rampage then.

[stark hollow]

put over it

ah

thanks

so rampage and flak im guessing?

[midnight mortar]

For the perk it depends on how much of a problem ragers are to you.

[stark hollow]

plasma go pew

[midnight mortar]

Versus bruisers.

[stark hollow]

so not really

[midnight mortar]

Ah then yeah you could probably go flak.

[stark hollow]

i guess its time to shake down hadron for a rampage blessing

[strange cosmos]

I keep think that I will one day get a T4 Slaughterer, but i'm thinking this doesn't exist?

[stark hollow]

the omnisiah dosent always bless

[midnight mortar]

Meanwhile I got over 3 dozen tier 4 slaughterers before seeing a single t4 power cycler on my power swords.

Across 325 hours.

Crafting sure is fun.

[stark hollow]

ive had several days where ive had 2 powercycler 4 swords in melks shop in a row

[terse idol]

I found my first T3 Power Cycler... just another

[strange cosmos]

Im the exact opposite, i have tons of the t4 pow cyc

[terse idol]

400 hours to go

😌

till I find my t4

[hybrid elk]

Hey gang, thoughts on this Kantrael I just rolled? Pretty happy with these, but I do have Man-Cutter and was thinking about swapping that out with something

[stark hollow]

its a nice one

you want no respite on it imo

[hybrid elk]

I actually have no respite 3

[ocean moat]

Does dmg resist vs gunners include shotgunners?

[stark hollow]

full bore is a little hard to use

[hybrid elk]

Yea that was my thoughts cus of the spread

[stark hollow]

i like it on the slug shotty

[hybrid elk]

Same lol agripinaa is fun

[midnight mortar]

I don't believe it does. Only reapers, dreg/scab gunners, dreg/scab shooters.

[hybrid elk]

So maybe swap out full bore with no respite?

[stark hollow]

i use full bore on my zealots kantrael cause i can dash and delete crushers and bosses

[stark hollow]

yea

[umbral scaffold]

is trench fighter drill a node

[stark hollow]

i feel no respite is a must on shotty

[umbral scaffold]

sorry for newb question i just stick to one side of the tree

i dont try new things ever

[hybrid elk]

alright thx dude

I'm excited to use this

[umbral scaffold]

my ex stance build only exists cause that was all the vet had back in the day

[terse idol]

mann don't be sorry for asking questions

scream

[ocean moat]

Boring ahh playstyle /j

[terse idol]

You chose to come here to leearrn

[stark hollow]

then its up to you whether you want unyielding or you want to swap deathspitter for fire frenzy

[umbral scaffold]

i tried a stealth build once i think itd be more pleasant to rub my penis on a cheese grater

[terse idol]

Eh

[ocean moat]

Why does everyone hate on the stealth

[terse idol]

You just gotta learn

Infiltrate is good

[ocean moat]

Then again

Im in the vet chat

[stark hollow]

i followed a guide to build stealth then i found out VoC is still more fun

[umbral scaffold]

the art of the scaredy lil bitch

i shout LOUD instead of being all quiet

[ocean moat]

The keystone for stealth is very good for hit and run playstyles

Better than left tree

[stark hollow]

left tree is p decent

[ocean moat]

Boring af tho

[stark hollow]

use it for me bolter

[astral blade]

fuck man agrip IGA needs a buff

the damage that it outputs is not enough to compete with the col IGA

[umbral flame]

anyone got a good VoC combat blade build?

[mystic belfry]

this

Could also run right capstone

[umbral flame]

does it need the revolver or whats a good substitution

[peak token]

how do you use knife

[umbral flame]

https://youtu.be/4Du-fRKavNo

[peak token]

just light spam?

[umbral flame]

a lot of dodging and stabbin

[peak token]

i enjoy playing sly marbo type gameplay but i feel like i deal no dmg so i just use chainsword or powersword

but knife is fun

[stray storm]

Could I work with this?

Hadron being silly as always

[south prairie]

It is a node on bottom right, 15% melee speed

It makes knife go TURBO

[whole moon]

Is uncanny recommend for the shovels?

[mortal horizon]

thoughts on this vet build? (plasma, mkVI power sword)
Im not finding any of the augments on weapons specialists are super great

been going back and forth between something like this and can't decide which feels best

[vale ledge]

A Kriegsman would be proud

[stray storm]

Dead shot and the left keystone would feel better imo

Your main goal I’m assuming is to take out specialist and elites and you need a faster reload to get things done

[vale ledge]

You unintentionally reminded me to remove the bleed perk on my build lmao

Lmao thanks man

[mortal horizon]

not really, i use the animaiton cancel on plasma reload is pretty quick

deadshot is good true

[stark hollow]

good knoife?

[stray storm]

How does that trigger? Was it slide?

[mortal horizon]

just standing still, zzz

sprint 3 times at different points in the reload animation

how is confirmed kill vs exhil takedown now. taking both is good, or overkill?
plasma i dont always aim head, so feels like confirmed kill more reliable

i have this too, but no points for deadshot lol

unless i give up survivalist

[umbral flame]

survivalist is less necessary in competent groups

[maiden trail]

Trying to do some of the redacted missions like no ammo at the end and 90% accuracy, and the grenade not bouncy kinda ...meh , not even sure how I'd do it (heresy level)

[stark hollow]

at least you're doing it after they made them easier 💀

nade one you gotta practice in psykanium

[whole moon]

Accuracy one can be made easier by using a shotgun or revolver w a low ammo stat

[stark hollow]

90% just empty gun and never take ammo

play melee vet

[whole moon]

Unloading into bulwark shields counts too

[sharp ember]

both is good but not that important to have ET with plasma

[maiden trail]

Mmm what about plasma gun?

[stark hollow]

i think also assasination boss shield counts

[maiden trail]

I think the grenade hitting 5 enemies no bounce is what id struggle with more

[stark hollow]

easiest place to do it

new mission

carnival at the end just yeet it straight up into the sky

it explodes at around head level

slightly above head level

[maiden trail]

Is any grenade morph better than the other?

[stark hollow]

stick to the normal/bleed nade

bigger boom radius

[forest blaze]

Never seen a competent group 😂

[gritty dock]

I don't know if it's worth spending as many as 3 points to achieve Agile Engagement.
This is a situational skill.

It is more effective to take Longshot for 1 point, which will almost always give you +20% Ranged.
And for 1 point take Superiority Complex, which will always give you +15% Base Damage to Elite for each weapon.
The elite is a whole lot of enemies.

This is my opinion just quickly, at least in this matter.

[forest blaze]

Precision only gives you 50-100 extra damage on plasma fyi. If you feel tight on points, you can move those

With plasma and ps, give infiltrate a consideration because of your low fire rate and need to stay in perfect positioning. You don’t have an auto gun, so you can’t really just shoot into the horde in front of you if you get into a tight spot and need to reposition and switching to ps isn’t feasible.

Source: me. Plasma PS for forever

[stark hollow]

is stopping power on this too shite or is it worth the buy

[minor iron]

found my first 380 base in brunt's store. good enough to roll the dice with?

[stark hollow]

go for it

believe in the heart of the plasteel

[minor iron]

took it to orange, not the greatest... crucian roulette 3 and speedloader 4 along with a sprint efficiency perk. i guess i could make it work but its not better than my 365 revolver

[forest blaze]

Bummer

[stark hollow]

shame

get bricked

[minor iron]

yeah... so it goes i guess. the grind continues

[astral blade]

so i'm curious why is it that i see some allot more high level players these days wearing prison outfits?

[stark hollow]

funny meme

[astral blade]

wait its a meme?

[stark hollow]

idk

[outer mulch]

So I guess the plan is to touch them with the barrel

[stark hollow]

i just assume

[stark hollow]

would prefer the blessings on a braced auto

[ocean moat]

STEALTH VET RAHHHH

#general-chat message

[outer mulch]

Me too lol

[stark hollow]

i like stealth ogryn.

[mystic belfry]

light spam for hordes, heavies for elites and some specials, punch for mid-air dogs

[stark hollow]

if there are no survivors then its a technically stealth

[ocean moat]

Damn this wouldve been a great scoreboard if i hadnt procrastinated in getting that mod

[serene sage]

it's a aethetics choice I think
i lot of people equip "lower" level outfits as a sort of "sleeper" build

like unassuming "noob" who has no outfit but is actually decent

it happens in every game imo

[ocean moat]

[mystic belfry]

Tbh the only class with solid base unlockable cosmetics is Vet

For the others it's all mostly meh so I don't really care

[serene sage]

have you not seen all default outfit uber high level players in other games before?

[stark hollow]

i like the candle robe on zealot

[serene sage]

like 2M mastery Ahri with default skin in League kek

[serene sage]

Zealot has us beat imo

[stark hollow]

and psyker has some nice penance drip

[serene sage]

that candle outfit is top tier drip

[mystic belfry]

This is my favorite look

[stark hollow]

i remember when it got nerfed

[mystic belfry]

The camo armor set you can buy in game is aight too

The last unlockable helmet with goggles is good as well

[stark hollow]

cause the candle was too bright and was helping people see in the dark mode modifyer

[serene sage]

RED ALERT FUN DETECTED

[forest blaze]

PAY TO WIN NONSENSE

[serene sage]

EXCEPT IT WAS ORDO

[mystic belfry]

In VT2 some of Sienna's stuff can glow in the dark when you hold an attack

[serene sage]

CANT HAVE ORDO OUTFITS BEING BETTER

OR PEOPLE WON"T BUY OUR HIGHLY DEDICATED AND CAREFULLY CRAFTED OUTFITS

like the Krieg ones

[mystic belfry]

Flail in particular is neat because when you hold heavy it swings the mace, you get a kind of rotating light source, looks great

[serene sage]

[forest blaze]

WHERES MY PROSTHETIC ARMS SKINS

GIVE ROBO ARMS

WITH MY ROBO LEGS

AND ROBO EYE

[mystic belfry]

Ngl man, most of the skins are recolors of outfits I don't overly like.

[serene sage]

best we can do is an eyepatch that removes your eyebrow

take it or leave it

[forest blaze]

I CRI

ROBO ARMS WHEN

[serene sage]

only on one eye

[mystic belfry]

Never

If you lose a limb you're just left to die, not important enough to get a replacement

[serene sage]

just shove me in a dreadnaught frame 😉

[stark hollow]

turn me into a acro flagalent

[mystic belfry]

Not cool enough for that either

We'll cremate you with the nearest fire barrel, best we got

[stark hollow]

even better turn me into a necron pariah(remember when those were a thing)

[serene sage]

just wait until Sister Repentia outfit is released

this whole sub will fall to Slaneesh

[stark hollow]

isntt that just going shirtless and pantsless

[serene sage]

this time with boobies

[stark hollow]

aka the "bug" that they fixed

[umbral flame]

lol this dude plays the table top

[stark hollow]

i dont. i just watch hours of lore to sleep

[umbral flame]

understandable

[stark hollow]

ive run out of lore to sleep to

ive heard almost all of it

[umbral flame]

just start listening to the 40k ebooks then

[stark hollow]

i could pick up a few more e-books from black library i suppose

[serene sage]

Spotify has audiobooks now btw

it's like insane

[stark hollow]

huh

warhammer ones?

aint no way

[serene sage]

not WH sadly

but like a lot of other things

[stark hollow]

damn

would pay extra for that ngl

[serene sage]

like a whole lot of WoW books

if you are into that

[stark hollow]

i mean i could just pay for audible

but

eh

[serene sage]

and Starcraft

[serene sage]

I guess I already pay for Spotify

[stark hollow]

love starcraft audiobooks

[serene sage]

I canceled my Audible last month

because of it

I listen while I work

it's lit

[vague charm]

making a build to finish veterans normal penances that need volley fire, gonna take the kantrael, hows this look?

[mystic belfry]

You're litterally a single point of of the capstone

it's not game breaking but it's worth 1

[vague charm]

walking removing it means I gotta turtle though, should I still take it?

[mystic belfry]

If you don't take it, invest less on the left tree

[serene sage]

I think people need to stop taking Tactical Awareness unless they are aiming for Iron Will as well on XStance

[flint garden]

moving only removes one stack at a time and if youre constantly hitting heads youll have high stacks anyways

[mystic belfry]

If you're not going to take nade perks, I'd just go shredder and save a point tbh

Something like this is probably what I'd go for, if you don't want to use left capstone

[terse idol]

And if you get that talent that keeps stacks you have 3 seconds to wiggle abit

[mystic belfry]

Cam swap precision strikes for redirect fire

Just tag things as you shoot em

[placid portal]

Tag em and frag em

[mystic belfry]

You shouldnt terribly need suppression immunity with kantreal shotgun

[serene sage]

pretty solid, i should try this at some point

[mystic belfry]

But that perk is the deapest I would go without going for capstone

Determined, to be clear

[vague charm]

sorry, I meant the mk 12 lasgun

[mystic belfry]

hmm

I assumed you meant shotgun because you took the reload speed on elite kill

[vague charm]

howd you get the entire thing in one screenshot?

[mystic belfry]

Build editor website

[vague charm]

oh neat

[mystic belfry]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

Just make the build and ctrl shift s

Let me fix this a bit more, one moment

[gritty dock]

Demolition Team - Does it work in practice and can you see that he adds grenades and how often?
Is it so random that sometimes it may not add anything?

[mystic belfry]

The higher your difficulty the more use you get from it

On auric it procs constantly

[tall torrent]

In damnation it procs very frequently

[mystic belfry]

below damnation, might swap it off for your regen

[tall torrent]

You can throw like 30 grenades in 1 game easily

[atomic zephyr]

mfw fail five aurics in a row because teammates die upon contact with a horde

[mystic belfry]

Something like:

[atomic zephyr]

well, the last one was because i dced and apparently was the only one capable of killing gunners lol

[mystic belfry]

Power sword can be swapped for several things, that just what Id suggest

You want carapace damage and ideally decent horde clear from your melee, pick your poison

[serene sage]

you kill an average what, let's set 100 elites/specialists per player (should be much higher imo), that's 400 kills total, let's say you are not incoherency for 40 of them, so 360/20 = 18 nades per game?

technically worse than Stockpile

[atomic zephyr]

i didnt even get to play this one what the fuck

[serene sage]

but much more point efficient

[mystic belfry]

Stockpile is high value because of raw consistancy, in most situations I would take that first

But this build is sacrificing nade utility for other things

[serene sage]

yeah stockpile is usually 2 point invesments

[vague charm]

just go into the discord channel and matchmake with people from the server, so much better than playing with randoms

[serene sage]

while demo team is right there next to iron will

[mystic belfry]

Save shredders mostly for staggering enemies to help yourself in allies up shit creek

otherwise just conserve them

[atomic zephyr]

would you guys say its worth giving up marksmans focus keystone for iron will?

running headhunter 7

[mystic belfry]

no

[stark hollow]

i swear i think i just played with a bot

[mystic belfry]

No for that gun in particular

[gritty dock]

@mystic belfry @tall torrent Is it worth changing Demolition Stockpile to Demolition Team?

[atomic zephyr]

fair, was just a theoretical lol

[mystic belfry]

No, if you have stockpile, take that first

But it depends on the build

[stark hollow]

zealot with heavy sword that bum rushed miles ahead, died, and then during the parts where we had to hold an area, they walked into a corner and held the block key and afked

[tall torrent]

Take stockpile because it always help you in all situations
Then if you have the point for it, take demo team for maximum grenade spam

[atomic zephyr]

also
was wondering
is opening salvo still the best option on this?

[tall torrent]

No

[atomic zephyr]

thinking of replacing with ghost or something

[tall torrent]

Headhunter + deadly accurate

[stark hollow]

oh buddy its been awhile huh

[mystic belfry]

Also, I would not heavily invest in both regen perks unless you run shredder nades specifically

You can always get value from throwing a shredder nade

[atomic zephyr]

headhunter deadly accurate?

[mystic belfry]

Kraks not always, and smokes are a case-by-case basis on throwing

[atomic zephyr]

well i guess i do have that on an XII las

[stark hollow]

this for all the current lasguns

[midnight mortar]

Headhunter and Deadly Accurate are the typical blessings for Kantrael lasguns now.

[stark hollow]

mgIV lasgun is also good now

[placid portal]

Shredda always clutches when a pack of ragers say hello

[mystic belfry]

I suggest this kantrael las

[atomic zephyr]

ive just sorta fallen out of love w/ the XII

[stark hollow]

very sexy gun

[serene sage]

like this?

[atomic zephyr]

dunno why

[placid portal]

Nice weapon

[tall torrent]

Smokes are valid on 2 builds (maybe 3) imo
Revolver weapon specialist
Plasma gun weapon specialist
Shotgun weapon specialist (?)

[stark hollow]

try the mg IV

[atomic zephyr]

maybe

[mystic belfry]

Shredder is the spam nade :v

[atomic zephyr]

ive been enjoying the 1A as well

[placid portal]

Smokes are helpful in like 1 map

[mystic belfry]

I acually like las pisol more than the rifles

But I play really, really melee heavy

[atomic zephyr]

i dont like the laspistol, cant mod so i have to give myself carpal tunnel to fire it at full rate

aaaand i get disconnected while sitting in the mourningstar

[mystic belfry]

The fire rate doesnt bother me any

[atomic zephyr]

god damnit darktide let me play

[placid portal]

Lmao

[mystic belfry]

It's not that fast

[stark hollow]

when lascannon ir multilas smh

[atomic zephyr]

ehh, i was using laspistol on gun psyker earlier and just wasnt feeling it

[stark hollow]

i want a lasgun with rotating barrel

[atomic zephyr]

i guess ill have to try it on vet

fuck, okay getting random backend error

[mystic belfry]

You need to land headshots constantly, and ideally have a decent crit rate too

[atomic zephyr]

let me in fatshark

[tall torrent]

I think it can still use a buff like make it heal your toughness or stamina by a small amount for every second you’re inside a smoke

[mystic belfry]

its a finesse gun

[tall torrent]

And make it counter sniper line of sight

Outside of that I think it’s fine

[atomic zephyr]

lmfao tonight has not been my night

[mystic belfry]

Smokes are good on every map tbh, you just need to use them at the right time

[stark hollow]

bring out the incense and oil

[stark hollow]

or restart your com. somehow idk why but it works for me

[atomic zephyr]

yeah

ill give that a shot

[mystic belfry]

You know those situations where you get a bad angle and 10 gunners, two reapers, and who knows how many shooters are going to fuck you over getting to them, even if you do die?

One smoke, encounter solved

Just mop up

[tall torrent]

I think it’s best to consider smoke as a buff that improves your melee survivability
It makes it much harder to get worn down by shooters when fighting a mixed horde in melee

[mystic belfry]

Smoke is just anti-ranged unit, besides snipers

[placid portal]

Only seems like that case is common in carnival tbh

[stark hollow]

if smoke blinded and marked enemies it would be so cool

[mystic belfry]

Its the most common on carnival for sure, but not only

[midnight mortar]

I feel like the only times I get into those bad angle situations in the first place are when I have teammates with no spatial awareness who insist on standing in awful locations.

[mystic belfry]

Just manually mark through the cloud

[placid portal]

But the train map is also useful for smoke for sure

[mystic belfry]

I run them on a support build meant for keeping said teammates alive ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[placid portal]

Open maps smokes are alright

[midnight mortar]

Ah, I just use them as bait at that point.

[mystic belfry]

I just hold them unless they specifically solve a situation I'm in

[placid portal]

So advantage of smokes is you can ditch grenade regen

[mystic belfry]

They're probably the strongest nade when used in their specific context, just because of how much damage they prevent. But they're otherwise negligible or mildly harmful to just throw out randomely

[mystic belfry]

Right now with so many carnivals queued up, I run regen, but otherwise I wouldn't

Because carnival is smoke city

[tall torrent]

Actually happened way more than I thought

[placid portal]

True new director is brutal at times

[tall torrent]

Smoke also allows u to flank gunners really well

I found it very useful on revolver, running weapon specialist

[placid portal]

Am ogryn Breakthrough hoardes and crush puny gunners

[midnight mortar]

Yeah it does work great in Carnival due to the narrow streets and choke point heaven of the majority of the place.

[finite imp]

Just bottle nose the entrance. It's boring but you live

[mystic belfry]

Support build

[tall torrent]

Just remember to not throw smoke when there’s a daemonhost nearby

[placid portal]

1st cypher on carnival is hell if ill prepared

[mystic belfry]

Helps even there, because you can nade the end of the hall.

Also for getting the button when it pops up, throw 1-2 nades and getting there and back is ez

[finite imp]

SWARM OF GUNNERS OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE

[finite imp]

I just shout and yoink

[placid portal]

Lots of shooters spawn at the end sequence so very helpful when calling the bird for cover

[mystic belfry]

Usually run with power sword 6 and las pistol or shovel and plasma

[finite imp]

Is smoke really that good

[placid portal]

Not for killing

[mystic belfry]

In the right situation, it's game changing

Outside of those situations, you sit on them

[placid portal]

Shredda my beloved

[finite imp]

I just feel like KRAK nades are so much more useful

[mystic belfry]

Shredda is the spam nade

[placid portal]

Love throwing em at hunting grounds spawn locations and get 15 dogs

[mystic belfry]

krak is the "you fool, you didn't take an armor weapon" nade

[finite imp]

They're hard damage bursts for bosses and will throw a hole in an armor line

[placid portal]

Krak has some sluggish weapon priming animation ngl

[cosmic jacinth]

Anyone got a Sharpshooter build ?

[mystic belfry]

I got crazy lucky once with shredder spam build, I was on auric and there was way too fucking many elites

And demolition team just kept proccing for like two minutes straight

[placid portal]

Shredder is able to throw a nade safely compared to a krak imo

[tall torrent]

Certified krak moment is when the nade goes off exactly 0.05s after the bulwark gets his head chopped off by an axe

[mystic belfry]

Probably threw two dozen nades in that time

[placid portal]

Mmmm

[mystic belfry]

RNG though

[placid portal]

Lucky

[midnight mortar]

I just wish the krak magnetism was a little less aggressive so it wouldn't always latch to the crusher taking point out of a staggered group of 6.

[placid portal]

Shoulda gone to the lottery

[mystic belfry]

Right after the rework, I thought I liked Kraks

[placid portal]

[midnight mortar]

I want to hit the ones in the back sometimes, not the one already engaged by a zealot.

[mystic belfry]

But tbh, it's just a crutch for bad weapon pairing

And it's not a reliable one if you get swarmed by ogryns

[placid portal]

This is tru

[mystic belfry]

Also boss damage, but meh, you don't need boss nades

[tall torrent]

Just make krak’s AOE dmg against carapace much higher
So many cases where the crushers just stand like 0.5m further than I need them to be so the nade ends up killing 1 instead of 4 crushers

[placid portal]

You also pull the pin slower than shredder

[midnight mortar]

You also can't use the inspect key to spin the ring around your left hand's index finger.

Objectively worse.

[placid portal]

Krak is an egg

[mystic belfry]

Shredder is better against armor if you have an armor weapon, because a shredder with stagger everything and then you can just easily kill the armor

[tall torrent]

A Rashad that hits every breakpoint is just beautiful

[mystic belfry]

• Nothing feels as good as 1v1ing 6 crushers in a row with a power sword

[placid portal]

Shredder staggers bosses by default

[mystic belfry]

Fuck the conga line, they're getting booped to death

[placid portal]

So useful to break heat

[mystic belfry]

Shredder also has bleed, which your ogryns and zealots appreciate

[ocean moat]

Idk i like krak for bulwark bunches and just general knots of armour

[mystic belfry]

Just kill em

[ocean moat]

Just personal pref

[mystic belfry]

Not that Krak is bad though

I just find it less impactful overall

[placid portal]

Krak is nice if you fold em together with shout

So thats a solution

[mystic belfry]

Half the time an allied vet uses kraks I kill the enemy before I realize they threw one

[tall torrent]

Krak is very good at removing bulwarks though

[mystic belfry]

Happy my tips are helping :)

[tall torrent]

Crushers I find less threatening than bulwarks in a mixed horde

[mystic belfry]

Kraks against bulwurks are probably their best use

[placid portal]

Ogryns are able to 1 shot bulwarks with adhesive

[ocean moat]

Shredders bounce too much

[placid portal]

A krill issue tbf

[tall torrent]

Hold mouse 2 to low throw

[mystic belfry]

What?

wdym they bounce too much

[tall torrent]

Makes them not bounce

[mystic belfry]

My brother in faith, the bounce is useful

[ocean moat]

Bounces off a random rock or staircass

[mystic belfry]

And yeah, if you're throwing into melee asap, just underhand em

[ocean moat]

In the worst possible moments

[mystic belfry]

Use your eyes, aim, the bounce can be really nice

[tall torrent]

You can also use the bounce to get the frag to go off behind the bulwark to send him on the ground which sets up for an easy kill

[mystic belfry]

I've saved allies several times bouncing a nade through a door from like 50 yards off

[placid portal]

Underhand throw is so fast really nice

Have a bad habit using it every situation

[mystic belfry]

Mhmm, if you're just making space or throwing a spare nade into a horde, just underhand

If you're hucking a fucker, overhand it

[placid portal]

Overhead for longrange suppression

[mystic belfry]

Mhmm

[placid portal]

[ocean moat]

I just dont wanna waste 3 skill points to go across the path and nab shredders

Tbh

[mystic belfry]

Softening mixed hordes, throwing AoE stagger for an ally, etc

[tall torrent]

Low throw is the way to go for frag in the vast majority of situations tbh

[mystic belfry]

Shredders are the only nade I would take all 3 perks for

[tall torrent]

What build are u running

[mystic belfry]

Both regen and enhance

[ocean moat]

Stealth/right

[mystic belfry]

I don't ever take +1 nade carrying capacity though

[placid portal]

3 is usually enough

[frank ether]

too far for most builds

[mystic belfry]

When would you even need it?

[placid portal]

4 is the good ol days when vet had 4

[mystic belfry]

With shredders, having 2 at any given time is fine

[frank ether]

having +1 is nice for krak

[tall torrent]

Ah ok then krak makes sense

[mystic belfry]

And throw your 3rd like a hot potato to avoid wasting grenade generation

[serene sage]

^

[tall torrent]

I use this for most of my guns

[mystic belfry]

I guess you could use it on krak, but eh

Take target down silly goose

[serene sage]

krak is overrated

[placid portal]

Ammo regen perk is too goated ngl

[serene sage]

thanks for coming to my TED talk

[calm prairie]

maniacs to 25% or deadly accurate to 100%

[tall torrent]

Can’t afford unfortunately

[mystic belfry]

You can for sure

[ocean moat]

Take demo stockpile instead

[tall torrent]

Which would I sacrifice

[mystic belfry]

precision strikes

[tall torrent]

Can’t sacrifice that

[mystic belfry]

You can

[tall torrent]

Need it to reach 1 hit breakpoint on all shooters with mk1 IAG and also one tap both bruisers in the head

I’ve tried

[placid portal]

I have noticed I havent used iron will

[ocean moat]

Which is target down

[tall torrent]

That’s way more valuable to me than target down

[ocean moat]

Ah nvm found it

[mystic belfry]

Swap out for blood and take exhilerating takedown

They fixed it

That gets you longshot for potential breakpoints as well

[ocean moat]

Take volley adept

[tall torrent]

If I had a better Rashad axe that had unarmored + flak, I might trade precision strikes for keystone modifiers

But an axe that doesn’t hit both bruiser 1 shot just feels horrible

[placid portal]

Same I need a new rashad mine is filled with mercury

[ocean moat]

How does duck and dive work?

[placid portal]

Dodge ranged shots get stamina

Sprinting and dodging procs

[ocean moat]

Replenishes?

[placid portal]

Instant 30%

[ocean moat]

Like refund or efficiency

[placid portal]

No questions asked

[placid portal]

Like recover stamina

[mystic belfry]

Can take either +5% health or +1stam at the top

target down covers your stam use

[placid portal]

+1 stam my beloved

[mystic belfry]

+10% melee damage and agile engagement boost melee more than desperado does, and agile also bumps ranged

[ocean moat]

Chaotic evil solution: take the stamina mods for right side keystone

[placid portal]

Crit parries are irresistable dou

[tall torrent]

By default, running perpendicular to enemy lines of fire makes u invulnerable to ranged attacks as long as you have stamina

Duck & dive prolongs this indefinitely and allows u to move cover to cover very well
This does not work if you’re running towards or away in enemy line of fire

Stripped down (weapon blessing) enables u to be completely invulnerable to ranged attacks as long as you have >50% stamina, which can get resupplied by duck & dive indefinitely and allows you to tank a bajillion gunners & shooters at the same time as long as you keep sprinting

[mystic belfry]

Desperado is nice for sure, but I wouldn't go that way for a more ranged weapon heavy build

[placid portal]

Tru

[ocean moat]

Play hybrid vet

[placid portal]

Usually if melee commando or officer build for me

[tall torrent]

I’ve found the stamina regen to be less of a problem if I have either of the stamina regen delay nodes

[mystic belfry]

You're always a hybrid no matter your build

[ocean moat]

Take right side

[placid portal]

Regen delay nodes are so fucked

[mystic belfry]

I was referring to dropping duck and weave

[placid portal]

Why are they so far apart

[mystic belfry]

Target down does stam regen better

[ocean moat]

Left and mid tend to leam towards range and melee

[stark hollow]

man i actually got a competant squad

[tall torrent]

If you don’t have any of the stamina regen delay nodes I think target down is a must take

[stark hollow]

the game is so much easier with a competant squad

especially one who always sticks together

[mystic belfry]

I would never take focus target without target down

[tall torrent]

I take focus target just to enable breakpoints

[ocean moat]

The game gets easier if youre better??!

[placid portal]

Target down sounds nice I should make a build for that

[stark hollow]

i know such a shocker

[mystic belfry]

It's very good

[placid portal]

Ye elite specials spawn a dime a dozen

[tall torrent]

If veteran had 5 extra skill points I’d take target down and redirect fire modifiers, then probably field improv and some extra stuff

[mystic belfry]

We really only need like

2-3 more points to work with

[tall torrent]

2-3 would be enough yea

[ocean moat]

If only my tagged targets wouldnt just sink into the horde

[mystic belfry]

:v

[tall torrent]

Current tree still needs work

[placid portal]

Ooh ooh everyone gets 5 more skill points for part 2 updatw

[mystic belfry]

ez

[placid portal]

[stark hollow]

played a high int shock auric and it felt like normal damnation when everyone was playing well

[tall torrent]

They should just

[stark hollow]

nobody went down

and all the specials got shot before they got close

[mystic belfry]

Those games are always amusing

[tall torrent]

Move the toughness dmg reduction travel nodes on the left tree INTO EXECUTIONER STANCE

[mystic belfry]

You wonder where all the enemies are then you realize they're just all fucking dead

[midnight mortar]

Always a good feeling.

[ocean moat]

They should just keep giving skill points the more you level

[stark hollow]

boss was deleted by our one zealot hitting it with a hammer and the other 2 vets yeeting a krak

[ocean moat]

No

[stark hollow]

the bosses i mean

[placid portal]

Lol

[mystic belfry]

Marksman's focus las pistol is an amusing build

[tall torrent]

Left tree gives you a total of 15% toughness dmg reduction

[ocean moat]

Thats uhhhhhhhhhhh game design issue

[placid portal]

Pretty much

[tall torrent]

And takes 2 travel nodes

[ocean moat]

Skill issue

[tall torrent]

Just move that into the active ability

[mystic belfry]

Exhilerating takedown is 30% toughness dr

[placid portal]

Really nice

[ocean moat]

Exhilerating takedown 😔

[tall torrent]

ET is really good with guns that can 1 tap shooters in the head

[mystic belfry]

They fixed it

[placid portal]

Fuckin sucks how the kantrael sights merge well with the yellow cloaks ffs fs

[stark hollow]

should i go deathspitter or hit and run

[ocean moat]

I need more skill points so i can get all the good nodes

[tall torrent]

Just cut the tree and reduce unnecessary travel nodes

[placid portal]

This is tru

[mystic belfry]

I just wish I could make a super heavy melee build with middle capstone, but it's really awkward

[placid portal]

Devs put too much thought for vet

[stark hollow]

or do i take off fire frenzy and put it on this one

[mystic belfry]

I just don't like the feel of using right capstone

[ocean moat]

Give us 2 sp per level up to 60

[ocean moat]

Why

[placid portal]

Vet has so much skills to invest

[tall torrent]

Move 15% toughness DR into executioner’s stance, cut left tree travel node so it takes 2 less points to get to 15% elite dmg

Nobody would complain

[placid portal]

Or let us start with 5

[mystic belfry]

I don't like having to always switch off of my melee exactly every 10 seconds

It's not a bad thing to do, and it's powerful. I just don't like it

[placid portal]

5 skill points makes all the difference

[tall torrent]

And executioner’s stance is still the most taxing ability because you really need 2 points invested into its modifiers to make it valuable

[ocean moat]

I dont keep a countdown on those buffs

[tall torrent]

VoC needs just 1, while having auto-pathing through demo stockpile

[ocean moat]

I just keep swapping when possible

[placid portal]

Infiltrate wanting 1 or 3 points depending on the mood of the build

[ocean moat]

Wdym

Like tank out of stealth or extra stealth?

[tall torrent]

Infiltrate is different though
VoC is just pop and go back to whatever you were doing
X stance needs you to stay in it to hit breakpoints for a lot of guns and that takes you out of melee

[mystic belfry]

This is my almost pure melee build

[placid portal]

Fair

[astral blade]

hey sorry to ask this off topic question but when y'all built your first tower did y'all feel at peace?

[ocean moat]

What

[placid portal]

Tower

[stark hollow]

tower?

[mystic belfry]

For a time

[astral blade]

ya pc tower

[mystic belfry]

My tower is a large cube

[placid portal]

Unfortunately a 2nd plane came along

[ocean moat]

Huh

[mystic belfry]

Also I felt incredibly stressed because I had to dissesemble the entire front of the case to get my GPU in there

[whole moon]

Fuck my first PC build aged me a decade. Talking back in the 386 days tho

Bit more fiddly

[stark hollow]

my pc has never been built at once. it started off as a handmedown from me dad over a decade ago now

slowly replaced one part every time it broke and one day replaced the case

[astral blade]

ok just curious 🙂

[mystic belfry]

I built mine a year or two ago idr

[placid portal]

Just consulted with the mekk bois and they said that my pc only need WAAAAGH to power the computer

[mystic belfry]

Orc spotted

[ocean moat]

OHHHH LIKE THAT TOWER

[placid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/waaaagon-warhammer40k-ork-orks-battlewagon-gif-15712545

[stark hollow]

my pc is actually just a 3070 connected to 2 screens with a usb C cable

[ocean moat]

i was thinking like "tf he mean build a tower i aint no wizard"

https://tenor.com/view/orks-ork-waaaagh-slugga-boy-dawn-of-war-gif-15592891

[placid portal]

Ah yes pc towet

[stark hollow]

he said tower and i though alcohol

[placid portal]

So gamers are wizards of real life

Living relatively isolated and focusing on their spells

[mystic belfry]

oh, and this is what I would run if I went for capstone with melee

plasma or revolver, either works

[stark hollow]

and playing with their wands

[ocean moat]

Ive been looking at your pfp for a while and just now saw what it actually was

[finite imp]

Do you run knife

[mystic belfry]

Sometimes

[finite imp]

Knife good

[stark hollow]

lmao

[limber egret]

hey question is getting gets hot blessing on plasma gun worth it?

like is getting high crital hit chance on the plasma gun worth it?

[stark hollow]

yes very

[mystic belfry]

Knife, power sword 6, and combat axe are my go to melee do it alls

[placid portal]

I need new knife

[stark hollow]

Gets hot and blaze away are the 2 blessings you want

[placid portal]

[mystic belfry]

I like either backstab or bleed knife

[limber egret]

what does blaze away do exactly?

[placid portal]

They said backstab has new sfx is that true?

[stark hollow]

more damage when you spam left click

which is what you wanna do anyway

[placid portal]

Dont stop shooting not even a second

[stark hollow]

dont bother right clicking

unless its a boss i guess

then maybe

[limber egret]

so how good is the critcal hit chance?

right now with the current tier 2 gets hot

[mystic belfry]

Either of these

[ocean moat]

Free crit chance

[limber egret]

i can have up to 50% critcal hit chance

[mystic belfry]

Easy knife and gamer knife

[limber egret]

and like is the damage increase that big?

[mystic belfry]

yeah

[stark hollow]

yes

[placid portal]

Iirc plasma got big crit bonus

[stark hollow]

you will melt everything

[placid portal]

Or big enough to make a difference

[stark hollow]

i saw a bulwark and clicked on it then i didnt see a bulwark anymore

[mystic belfry]

Generally the plasma gun you want. The flak damage is variable, carapace and unyielding can be good

[finite imp]

It really speaks volumes how bad rager spam is when maniac damage is ALWAYS THE META

[stark hollow]

i prefer elite over flak

[ocean moat]

If only my brain could comprehend plasma gun

[mystic belfry]

Always

[maiden trail]

I wish the power blades charge lasted for a long period of time rather than the 1 or so cleaves , I know we're not using astartes pattern stuff cause we're rejects and not marines but still XD it feels highly innefficient in design as is

[mystic belfry]

always maniac

[maiden trail]

Power sword*

[mystic belfry]

Yeah, I could see elite damage.

[placid portal]

Ragers muties flamers and trappers

[stark hollow]

it covers your breakpooints for more things

[limber egret]

oh ok so currently my plasma gun does 595 damage and it has gloryhunter and gets hots and with some vet perks i can have extra crit hit chance to increase it to 50% total

[placid portal]

Enemies you want dead if you see em

[stark hollow]

most flak enemies alr die pretty fast

[mystic belfry]

They did that so we could have a powerful charged attack really

[limber egret]

then it will drop to 40%

[mystic belfry]

If they made it last longer it wouldn't be strong

[finite imp]

As opposed to enemies you want alive

[stark hollow]

i wish power weapons stayed powered until you used them

[mystic belfry]

Grenaders sometimes.

[placid portal]

i.e : none

[finite imp]

A fair point

[placid portal]

Agreed

[mystic belfry]

I've actually gotten a few clutch saves because of helpful naders

[ocean moat]

Once a reaper was at the end of the hallway

A bulwark was right infront

[maiden trail]

I mean we already have light and heavy attacks? If you look at the astartes patterns used by marines they'll power it on and go to town for a good amount of time

[placid portal]

Fire is effective vs trash for sure

[mystic belfry]

Also, I don't want them to stay alive, but bursters are a free nade

[ocean moat]

Bulwark got shredded by his friend

[mystic belfry]

A normal heavy would just not be this strong

[placid portal]

Bulwark shields eat sniper shots right?

[mystic belfry]

They added charge as a mechanic to give a way to balance really huge hits on power weapons

[placid portal]

[mystic belfry]

Sometimes? i've been shot through them though

[finite imp]

The meta of using your enemies against themselves

[placid portal]

Love using sniper to teamkill

[whole moon]

I managed to get a mutie to run back into a clown door last night

[mystic belfry]

Yes

You ever seen a narrow horde get evaporated from a firing squad of snipers

[finite imp]

Pvp

[ocean moat]

Oh that reminds me

[maiden trail]

Eh just feels bad design all the same and see it as highly innefficient, the omnissiah would be displeased at this.

[ocean moat]

Once i saw a reaper just... standing