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Yea I jest
then again it's not me that's really the problem, just, not a lot of people can handle when shit hits the fan
anyone want to join?
yeah
And here's a plain agri IAG, which is doing about 2x the dps of the godroll 6d
shut me up
Ah... pubs
if i join
and then our Psyker overcharges
and then someone pulls in a bunch of Ogryns from the front
i'm so in love with vld i can fuck it
do it
come join
Its not a meme, its a way of life
get drunk
what if I say please 😄
ok
wecan do 2 bots ig
but dont shame me
if that's possible
honestly we are not even doing voice
I read that as "Anoooo~"
if i die miserably
aighttttttt
Missed a headshot and the gray plasma gun still outdamaged it 
on this build
we need a 4th
plz do
how 2 even join
Man I'm jealous, wish I can play while at work
my code is in my name and here 7713796223
u wanna host game foxhope
they can just add me and join
You missed the Imperium's finest.. no Ogryns?
ok
u can play ogryn next game maybe
i got 2 more in me at least
I wish I could. Physically recovering from issues. I'll offer a mix of mild abuse and support from the sidelines
Get it up them! Don't be a bunch of NurgleCucks!
They are called NurgleCucks because they will randomly instant kill one of your teammates by knocking them off the cliff at the worst possible time
Nucks
They've been awfully quiet since that match. I reckon Chaos got em
Yams last words being 'Tell the chat how well my recon did!'
memed by burster
we lost withotu the power of thbe bayonet only vet
ive never been launched into the finale platform like that lul
okay but bayo is not a meme
378 dclaw7 in brunt 
ggs
imagine if had ammo usage on
when i never picked up a single ammo box
muh score
seriously
if i could put this on
any other gun
literally anything else
even RECON
that would be worth recon's lower dmg
as a backup gun
second on every category, i cry
while you STAB
somehow
i did more overkill than actual dmg
makes sense
when ye
it oneshots a mutant
and meanwhile im horde clearing with it
LOL
im actually shocked
at how
genuinely busted this thing as am elee weapon
lol
its literally the best melee in teh game attached to a clunky as fuck gun
the worst part is when i have to swap to push something and swap back with that godawful swap time
that's the only time i ever used the axe
TO PUSH
lol
the range on it is like
longer than most melee i feel too
so its just so good at poking everything to death
fuck the gun
bayonet only
The charge it comes with is just icing on the cake too, that netter thinks he can run? Nope
I told you man, the mk2 bayonet is good.
It doesn't look like it should be. Half the time it doesn't even feel like it should be. But it is.
i figured the fastest shooter would be the best pair for it lol
I want to say the mk1's bayonet has the same profile as the 2.
But I'd need to dig through FS's patch notes to be sure.
lol
that ending
i let the power get to my head 😔
ya i saw
thanks for that lul
What is the sound?
jojo
Sounds like someone 'nummming'
It seems like it's impossible being a glass cannon vet with how people play right now
i dont even like jojo
😔
does the bayonet work with exhilirating takedown
i mean i am killing with a ranged ewapon
:^)
damn
it does not
just tried it
anyway, gg boys, recon is still debatable on value kek
i mean
it did do the lowest dmg overall
not b/c skill issue
but the gun just suggs
we knew
i unironically propose
put a bayonet on recon to buff it
that will make it a good weapon
genuinely
and it fits the idea of the gun
they wanted it to be a close range smg type weapon
you use bayonet and then shoot things occasionally when you need to
recon fixed
you're welcome fatshark
Just use it with combat knife then 
Nerf incoming
Had to clutch solo using axe, no grenades, low ammo
Man axe is not great for clutches
When Brunt gives you a godroll and Hadron bricks it with the worst possible blessings and perks
Shovel my beloved
The Brunt Giveth, and the Hadron Taketh Away
Bayonet only works if your gun has a slow swap speed
i only swapped to push
Is it just me or if you make sure your HB2 has charges missing you can ready it quicker by bypassing the ready animation by spamming reload
Or something similar, just in understandable English
Jesus yall were right about the columnus, first time hitting 400k
Is there an armoury mod similae to vermintide
I dont want to spend my precious coinage just to see the stats of a sword i will never use
Im not sure, have you checked nexus? thats where I got the scoreboard mod
man vet skill tree feels so bad
it feels good with this build now, but getting to onslaught is a pain on the right side
I do
Not really but it just makes it better. I spent about an hour earlier testing guns from recon lasgun, snubber, bolter, auto cannons and plasma
https://i.gyazo.com/c7ff7cc79dbab3b22a421da89cca3664.png
last 3 pts are free choice
Ive been using right tree for columnus, feels good with the "keep moving" playstyle
I go left tree down til after marksman then right tree to onslaught. I agree that keep moving style is my preferred
You were 100% right btw lol did you see the dmg pic I posted?
I will say, desperado is really good for axes and whatnot
Finesss bonus is good
but its not strictly necessary, so i left it as a free point
Even through carapice armor it’s insane
I wish they upped recons rate of fire to make it comparable
Yeah then up the dmg just slightly to make the ttk comparable. Especially since it doesn’t hit carapice as hard
also it huffs ammo
Right tree + columnus has let me stay alive every game so far
Mannn first time that a level 4 felt smooth for me
Not as alive as i would be sitting in the backlines BUT much more alive than my team somehow
Yeah same I kept having teammates go down but it was easy to clear
Hardest is prolly sniper scavs. At distance you feel the inaccuracy
My teammates have been sucking dirt so far
crouching helps a lot for snipers
I usually dont find myself in long ranges that often
I had someone yesterday pull TWO Daemon hosts on accident cuz “music was too loud”
But yes sliding is very good for snipers
how's the powderburn perk on a shredder autopistol?
It’s my style I’m tryna re-learn since I was using bolter and specifically targeting elites
Today i had a psyker aggro daemon because "heretics need purging"
Lmfaooo and y’all presumedly wiped
if you're gonna pull agro on dh then psyker is one of the better one
can tank forever with peril blocking
Tank scary demonhead
not as good as the time a dclaw zealot aggro'd a daemonhost and said "parry is so op" before proceeding to get mauled to death
give em the good slap in the face
parry is op, just reliant on player reflexes on certain things

helbore all the way
it really is disgusting atm
I'd like your thoughts and skill tree based skill too if you don't mind
Yeah problem is can't really use revolver
Health issues or more likely being a lost case of stupidity , never play games all the way to 100% for a long time or you'll regret it guys
There's only one right build now and it's a Hellbore 1 or 2 with a Limbsplitter/BM axe. 😉
Demo team over iron will?
Could you please elaborate, like show me screenshots of skill tree too?
It's just the bug on the Hellbore bayonet, it's a lot of fun but comment made mostly in jest
would this be worth buying from melks?
Yes
No
the duality
Basically the bayonet attack is getting the melee blessing benefits. Isn't affecting all but definitely is w Limbsplitter and Brutal Momentum. The stab is really fast and can be charged up.
<50% mobility
Terrifying barrage is bad
Infested is super niche
Deathspitter is only lv3
this is my current build for max toughness
I see
i though mobility was ignore stat
also you need a melee with these blessings
should get exhilarating takedown in there depending on da weapon
mm bayonet
Thanks I appreciate it
it's dump aura since I want the +10% melee damage
actually
how should i build mine because i am just getting shitted on every time i play
Yes, but you want >50% so you get the normal dodge limits
nvm I think I like my current build
I dont want either tinkerer or covering fire
but yeah helbore bayonet is so dumb atm
it 3 shot ragers while also staggering them
Is not really about build but mostly skill, I've already have all my build set up, I just like to test other and see how they go but I'd advise to do your own first
any tips on how to do these two?
My build (26/30)
Red lines are optional depending on the weapons I’m using
on overwatch you should go low intensity mission
and maybe infiltrate with the low threat
On Overwatch - Infiltrate, a Plasma gun and take it easy.
Make Every Shot Count - Shotgun or Revolver w low ammo stat
no ammo remaining you could do with revolver ya
great thanks 🙂
get 3 friends and keep block on all the time lmao
just spend all your ammo on a tanky monstrosity (ideally a beast of nurgle)
thats asking for a lot
or keep block on all the time and hope team know what to do
There is a cheese for On Overwatch, fall off a railing at start and die, get friends to res you at end of game. No melee damage = win
and use granades?
I done it first try with plasma gun, low threat and only missed twice, I tried with revolver and shotgun but always failed, in my opinion plasma gun is the safest way to complete the challenge
Is there a way to change your characters looks? I kinda made my vet look like a dumbass
you could take melee damage while throwing a grenade 
better safe than sorry
true
malice is really easy with 3 people if they are levelled anyway
Yes go to Oska
Who is oska
this guy
Where is he
Left side all way
from first spawn left side
across from the commissary
^
Ty guys
Should I keep the +2 Stamina on this shovel?
feel like that might come in handy slightly more than the +8% poxwalker damage lol
For overwatch you can do it by yourself too I did it so you can too, remember only damage to your health counts not the armor, with shout you can even make it easier
no
that could be very good for "on Overwatch"
looool
make boom
I was going to put Decimator on it
should i be worried about the trait survalist giving ammo? while i try to do "make every shot count
I definitely gotta try grenade veteran sounds fun
yes
crabs
Just take a different aura perk, go for the shout tree
find a low intensity malice mission ez money
...please buff the bolter
yeah but im worried about the other vets
What do you mean?
putting handcannon on the damn revolver invalidates the bolter
in every single way
It being slow isn't what gets me
True
and allies from their pov that would be me
Oh, I meant to ask a question
What other blessing other than hand-cannon
surgical
^^
unless it changed, as long as you deplete your ammo and dont switch back to your ranged when you get ammo from survivalist, you should be fine
low intensity
Ah i mean to do that you gotta stick close to them besides you won't find always veterans let alone with the cover fire skill tree, you can do it
Brother i get 7 gunners on a normal run 😔
yeah now i just got to wait for a low intent
My fav modifier is definitely high intensity specially in heresy, damnation or aurics, the one that keeps sending in specials and elite is always a workout for me so I avoid it
I have as well
But... the revolver is just leagues better
Noticed an immediate increase
even if I consider I am playing diffi 3
it is wierd that my gun kills me more than the heretics
What do you mean
Are you using a plasma gun and venting it after you've lost toughness?
Getting killed with plasma gun?
That's what it sounds like. Nothing else does that I think.
Yeah. Pretty sure veteran only has one thing that can do harm to itself.
If you keep shooting it blows up after 100
Fix bayonets
Is definitely not hard to use and Is pretty useful, a plasma gun
I think just play with it more sunspear you'll get better with it
It sounds like you're using a plasma gun.
In short, you have a fire icon that goes up to 100. Once it gets there, the next shot you attempt will overheat it and there's nothing you can do to stop that.
What you can do is prevent it by venting your plasma gun (which is whatever your special attack button is, check your keybindings and/or controller layout if you don't know) below critical levels or reloading it.
Reloading is the safest way to guarantee you drop any heat that's on your 0-100. However, the reload takes a long time.
If you're able to safely keep yourself at a distance from being attacked, vent your gun to allow yourself to fire. There's going to be toughness damage done but generating it by any means can be used to counter this.
I haven't figured it out but plasma guns seem to have a grace period where you'll be forced to look at the gun failing. If you fire again it blows up. This is your final chance to stop overheating.
Same, I like bolter way more, wish they'd put a bolt machine like the one that holds 60 bullets
A storm bolter?
Oh lord
Yes
Um... I would rather not have the shots go everywhere
Boltgun just needs a little help and it would be so fun to use
I want to be able to ads with it
I think so? I'm not heavy on lore but when I was playing deathwing that bolter was amazing like tatata killing does xenos used a lot the power sword and claws too
It was precise but then again being a space marine and with power armor i suppose it helps with recoil
Wouldn't be nice if them added a lmg for veterans? Like the ones that Gunners have
Yeah, the storm bolter
Or something like Bardins minigun
I remember the mk2 one, that was uncontrollable
man i've wasted 300k on power swords trying to get 1 power cycle....should i consecrate every power sword to yellow to get this blessing?
who tf designed auric maelstrom hab dreyko
like legit i never get a power cycle on blue tier
i want a word
Heavy lasgun?
They should make more games like that, I'm excited for space marine 2
I guess? Don't know the name but I'd like to have one of those it would be fun, maybe make it like 200 rounds and have a ammo capacity of 400
For the Emperor or with the Emperor?
For Cadia
For atoma!
Ok going to try out your skill tree build now
Is the Catachan Devil Claw still on top or has that changed?
remember to be creative with flanking and try not to get staggered by gunners
other than that you can just rambo since it one shot to the head most enemies
What if I want to do it for myself and not Cadia?
Outcome: Cadia Go Boom
I mean this would just invalidate the IAGs xD
Since thats more ammo than the infantry autoguns
And headhunters
With how hard bolters hit it would be difficult to have a full auto spam version that doesnt just either
- Run out of ammo very quickly
Or
- Invalidate the entire game if allowed to ammo hog
Oh nvm u were talking about a lasgun having 200/400, not a bolter
Mbad
Frankly the fact that revolver doesnt need to reload now is what pushes it over the top imho. Basically removes the main issue of only having 5 rounds in the cylinder.
The damn full reload speed of the revolver is quicker than the bolter
And it hurts
and handcannon existing also hurts
In addition to the quicker than bolter reload the revolver benefits from partial reloading that few other weapons get and the bolter isn't one of em
i hope they change weapon specialist keystone to trigger on shot after swap, not on swap
do you know if the kantrael shotgun's fire procs onslaught
which is the superior weapon
vraks feel like shit if u dont hit weakspot
second one
Tbf bolter has 15 rounds so its still faster per shot
And bolter is faster if u animation cancel it.
Big problem is just the range kills
It sways way too much
do u take suppression immunity on the colum mk5 build?
if you want a range bolter, it's called a plasma gun
this is certainly why the revolver doesn't have a speed loader
But it can be awkward sometimes to refill your 6 rounds
Luckily for me, I hate the plasma gun
It's a humbling experience when playing with friends that shouldn't even be playing malice and you can't carry them through heresy 😐
Tried it, is alright. Going for grenade one now
oh damn just realized deadshot doesnt work on plasma
wasted a point on it this entire time
it's alright until you get dopamine rush from being rewarded for rushing in a horde of ragers and able to kill them all unscathed
free crit chance? ty ty
Yeas I can do that in my build too, plus d claw helps a lot in that and the parry aswell
Pretty much shout vet is kruber
isn't it already a thing with weapon specialist
i meant that +25% chance to crit for charging would basically be a free crit with how much crit im stacking
but yea i think weapon specialist either guarantees a crit or gives +33% chance i forget
does weapon rating matter to get power cycle 3 or 4?
i hear higher rated weapons have a better chance at rare blessings
Thanks for the advice, I know it, and I vent the gun often enough
I usually keep the heat around 30~60%
but for some reason my plasma gun can't one shot or double tap enemies
so I kinda panic and forget to let the heat out
which.... yeah
I find myself rushing through missions now with right skill tree and power sword.
can anyone give me advice on using the plasma gun? for some reason Darktide is lagging crazy after the recent patch so pretty much my only choice is to use plasma gun
i'll add that it seems to force you to vent 20% if you try to lmb with it over 95%, i havent had it blow up on me by spamming lmb
i think it only explodes if you charge rmb then fire while it's too hot
Sraight up ignore enemies
the problem however is players whod rather kill everysing pox walker
right tree is very fun for melee vet. i run dclaw and plasma with it and tear through hordes
its unironically made me impatient when playing auric
yeah I found it out the hard way
unless there are zealots
btw im struggling to find somewhere to throw a straggler point with a plasma build, any ideas where to toss it?
i was thinking of taking precision strikes but idk if +30% weakspot hits any nice breakpoints
Damn no voice of Command telling you to get on your karking feet??
was thinking of switching to the middle tree since i'd get a few more points to work with
idk tho
Yeah I've honestly been considering dropping the focus target keystone and utilizing the points elsewhere since I don't really remember to tag enemies in the heat of batttle
should I just keep this as is
prolly just wait till you get thrust 4
Stumbled upon a really nice MK6
I haven't used it much until now
Having this literally fall into my pocket gives me an excuse
what's the advantage of the mk VI over the Mk III powersword? VI feels really clunky to use
Just push attack really
So I've heard
It hits weakpoints hard, with an excellent light attack followup
Ahh, so it's better for single target?
How does it work with equipment? You have to buy new on a higher level to get best stats? I may did a mistake by upgrading a shovel i bought at lvl 5
Very nice for a kill combo when paired with Power Cycler
Yeah, the heavy attacks are not entirely horizontal, like the MK3
Decimator is pretty good doe
but yeahh
that 28 mobility
Proobably gonna hurt
But, the light attacks are, which, with Brutal Momentum, help make up for that weakness, while also giving you the damage for the kill combo
can someone help me understand this node? is alternate fire = aiming down sights?
anything use gloryhunter? just got a tier 4 one on my reward plasma gun
yes
not all weapons has the aiming down sights, so its written as alternate fire instead
except plasma 😭
we cri
thanks
best blessings for a plasma gun?
wondering if i should swap out blaze away with brittleness
gets hot + blaze away
oh well i guess im already god rolled 😂
imo brittleness is only an option if you want to deal more damage to monsters
Plasma ignores armour so it's only gonna benefit the rest of the team?
oh it does? well then, not worth it
What are some common perks people put on knives?
Got something solid with backstab rending and iv ws damage.
Mostly going to be using this thing with bleed melee buidls for a more flexible knife in right tree builds.
FINALLY GOT POWER CYCLER 4 MY BELOVED
if you charge(which can be animation cancelled by blocking), then push attack --> light --> light you can kill a crusher. This does require power cycler 4
is there any significant difference between the 2 power swords?
the VI slows you on charge, But with the combo described above can kill a crusher in about second
the III mostly just does horde clear
which the VI does just as well. So theres no competition atm
oh, is that the one that lets you do multiple powered attacks with one charge?
seems like the VI is more finnicky to land headshots with tho
the push attack that is
both allow you multiple attacks if you have power cycler
does shattering impact really not work on plasma gun?
It does, but doesn't benefit from it a whole lot. The gun not only can one shot most things in the game, it also has a very effective armour damage modifier against most health types in the game, so it's not really affected by brittleness if it already deals the most of its damage to all armour types.
I currently have carapace armor damage on my plasma gun, should I switch this out for another trait?
its the one thing im iffy about on my gun
flak armor, get hot and blaze away
IDK, see if that does anything for you in the Psykanium
Unarmoured
how come?
Plasma needs unarmored to hit the dreg gunner 1 tap iirc
Left click of course
i say keep carapace, unarmored targets go 💥 already
Theres a lot more unarmored than carapace targets
And plasma has worse unarmored damage than carapace
the one shot crusher plasma shot is nasty
but also ive had issues with dreg gunners because i have to double tap them
Doesnt this require a fully charged rmb?
yes
Which iirc is no better than just lmb spamming it
Ammo efficiency bad, too :(
Rmb ammo efficiency is poo poo ye
you gotta have a team that will let you grab ammo
Exhilarating Takedown or Kill Zone also
Played a match where 2 psykers didn't know how to act like psykers. Ended up just hoping the enemy would steam roll us fast so I could leave sooner.
i take survivalist to try and keep them topped off so i can get ammo pickups
lucius my beloved
cant make up my mind if i want toughness or 30% weak spot fuck yous
Just had a match where everyone went down to scab captain
Exhil is good
someone left, and the bot frame one revived the stealth veteran
only breakpoint i found for 30% thru like 1m of testing is that you can now two tap ravager
i just opted for the flat +15% damage when 8m so i can take out crushers and bulwarks from the other side of the map
Thats within 8m of ANY enemy
Not just your target
Yeah, and on higher difficulties, literlaly never.
If ur more than 8m from any enemy you are playing too far back
And causing extra specials to spawn

Gun dependent
Plasma? Exhil takedown
Also dependent on if you want to do stuff with power sword
because it affects melee iirc
Thr AI director is very aggressive with out of coherency special waves
implying damnation teams will stick in coherency at all
heresy teams do a better job of that
Lol no
Heresy is the place where u get all the nonsense
ok
Heresy is the worst diff to play on
But yea prolonged out of coherency is very bad
Heresy is where the people not good enough for Damnation stick around
Its why kill zone is so bad right now.
Its really hard to keep up without poor play
Damnation can have bad eggs but those eggs wouldn't be any better on Heresy.
Wait, actually, since you're technically counted as "2 coherency" are you still triggering those spawns if you have Loner?
Yes
Loner is stupid
Make it not :)
Just delete loner
Fatshark makes fantastic game design
XD
Fatshark does a lot of things very well
Ok loner is fine if ur trying to save talents. Cos all the zealot auras arent that spectacular
And a lot of things that dumbfound you
Is there even a use for Loner outside of terrible toughness regen?
no
Wonderful
Saving talents
Thats it
Its the zealot equiv of a tax travel node
Maybe if it made you always benefit from ally auras
That would be OP
I usually just take the reduction aura
Like how clueless vets save talents not picking survivalist
Idunno tbh
Nah, just crutch mode for people who don’t play in coherency
I’d still not take it
survivalist isn't mandatory
Hides my vraks 7 build
The rest of our auras are shit
It isn't mandatory tho
A loner Zealot benefitting from Vet's ammo regen all alone with Shroudfield? You'd have the new camo Vets.
5% move speed is shit
5% damage is slightly less shit
Only reason you'd go for them is some point saving which is bad
A build skill issue if you will
As if they don’t play like that anyways
Having 1 staff psyker on the team is equivalent to having a survivalist vet
And even without, ammo econ isn't that bad
Depends heavily on teammates
Gunlugger ogryns
And weapon of choice
Man, that's on them
5% movespeed can be good on dagger, you get a total of 10% with talents on top of knife mobility
But yea ammo eco really depends on teammates
Meme still though
80% mob knife makes ogryn able to cover more distance than every class
Add charge f+movement feat+ uppercut tech and u got a monster that completes missions in 14 minutes
Just need 4 of them to keep boosting each other
I always love people who imply that range focused classes/builds are gonna be the most ammo hungry.. When they can use melee just as much as others and in fact save ammo from higher damage.
Sheesh
I still am not sure how to do the uppercut tech for Ogryn
I will go to 0 ammo and then use melee
Regular attacks stop your momentum while sliding, with uppercut you can retain it to simply never stop moving
Useful to stagger gunners or dogs to keep running
Doesn't work on trappers
They just recover and force you to dodge

I have trouble believing that’s faster than a knife zealot built into speed.
So are commissars ...
I guess it also depends on the map. Ogryn can ignore a lot more things.
I mean, their resilience is equivalent to TWBS except Zealot gets rewarded for being hit. Just that they get more survivability
Well if you're getting rewarded for getting hit then you're not built for maximum speed, now are you?
Idunno. Just seems weird to think that Ogryn can be faster with a very particular strategy.
TWBS Is stun immunity + movement speed on taking damage
For zealot
Since getting hit restores stamina, you can also use it to strategically boost yourself
Ugh boy console vets should not be using revolver
Well I was more thinking of Martyrdom, I don't really see that momentary buff as a huge bonus
But I do think that a Zealot with a knife and Momentum would be faster, though the Ogryn likely has an easier time simply charging through stuff or holding out for objectives
And I say this because knowing how much ammo the other bet wasted
whats the best add clear melee option for the vet atm?
Friendly fire shots 79
I've been using a savage sweep ramage chain sword
That's pretty up there
should i switch over to the plasma sword?
Well the Power Sword is still number 1 when it comes to sheer numbers
You can try Catachan or Power Sword
Revolver should only be used by the pc lads
But a Catachan IV can indeed serve you well against most things
I'm curious to see how xbox players play Darktide
They're not spectacular from my experience.
Yeah they struggle a lot harder.
I imagine its like tank controls for some reason haha
Some are alright, but the game is just too intense and needs too much awareness
Darktide requires a lot of precision that, IMO, playing with a controller doesn't really allow for.
Even for those who play Halo and such?
blueballed from getting transcendant, what should I hope to get for the 2nd blessing and should I replace weak spot w/ maniac or unyielding
Having clear audio is really important too, and if they're on console, chances are they're not reaping the benefits of a good headset.
slaughterer vs rampage on a power sword?
Depends, which version did you grab
none yet, next good roll for a weapon im gonna go for is the power sword
didnt realize there was two options
The 3 specializes more in horde clear, but 6 has a lot more capability for general purpose.
I have yet to give the Mk 6 another try, haven't used it since after it was released
Felt the Mk 3 was simply superior back then
If anyone disagrees with mah statement feel free to let me know
This so true, I've one friend who always play on speakers and its auidble through our discord calls
luv me lucius
with the III is rampage or sunderer best?
If you're more interested in horde clear and grab MK3, just grab Slaughter
But if you want the MK6, you actually want Brutal Momentum
Sunderer is good too, if you really don't care for the extra damage and just want to hit everything
Because I am of the opinion that only pc lads should be using the revolver instead of folks on console because of MNK and how accurate you guys are on MNK
Is it weird that I like the blessing that increases Charged Cleave?
No, I really like that one too. Wish I had it on my MK3
Take it with a hint of salt but I found this vid pretty handy:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/17xvny3/power_sword_blessings_visualized/
I forgor the name
But, I settled for Wrath, which is basically worse, but eh
Sunderer
Thankies
I assume BM for light attack spam, yeah?
im going with a plasma gun and that is my end all be all for specials
so i want a melee that can chew through enemies to allow me to get back to shootin
Also my rig is finally done 😁
I am curious how a Bromentum Slaughterer PS work, in a world where Power Cycler doesnt exist
Officially part of the pc gang I guess lol
May it serve you well for at least a decade 👍
Yup, and for the extra WP damage for your Push Attack + Strikedown combo
There better be an RTX 4090 IN there
My guy there is
Good
Only the best GPU is capable of murdering heretics in the emperor's name
Cracking Heretic skulls at a buttery-smooth 144 FPS
might want to get a brace / bar for it so there's no gpu sag
Also is that the 5000d case?
Hey my first pc I’ve ever built so decided to go big
Did you go Ryzen or Intel?
14th Gen?
The thing with Sunder though is that it not only increases cleave, but it also lets you go through things that normally would stop a swing, like Crushers, and Bulwark shields, to hit things behind them. It makes the situation of a rager hiding inside of a Bulwark, or several Crushers, more manageable.
but is it worth picking over rampage/brutal momentum?
Depends if you want more DMG or more defense
Sunder will make sure nothing can hit back
best defense is a good offense
Then BM :)
Isn't the Helbore MK I the best?
Give me a minute gotta check real quick still have the box somewhere about
If I haven’t thrown it out that is
We don't speak of the forbidden techniques
Saw a vet using melee Helbore the other day on a random Heresy mission, was funny.
But they're the best techniques
And yeah, they were better than I expected
What was their name?
I dont remember
Mk1 is the middle child.
It might have been me, the bayonet is surprisingly good
Mk2 is faster at charging. Mk3 is hardest hitting.
Huh
But only because of the bs blessing interactions
I've been exclusively using the mk2 helbore in missions and it's quite strong with Fatshark's finesse buffs.
So the MK II is subjectively the best?
If I didn't already have one, this'd be a pretty nice one.
And that's not even abusing its interaction with weapon specialist.
Yeah ryzen I went with
The mk2 is ideal for anti-shooter/gunner duty. The mk3 is strong against carapace.
My bayonet build doesn’t even have a keystone, but if the rightmost one worked it would be funny
It does.
Get a kill with ranged and get a free +25% damage to your bayonet since it's treated as a melee weapon.
I have that, I meant the crit chance and attack speed on swap keystone
only slaughtering heretics with the best possible gpu
its a 7000D case
Think I can make this work with survivalist and +25% ammo passive?
Probably? Take it for a spin.
Does 10% elites do anything on this roll, by the way?
high capacity
ammo 19%
Higher damage on anything that's not the specialist group. So that includes ragers too.
have tried elites on mk12 maniac is just better
sometimes flamers and other maniac specialists
will survive headshots
and it would just be better to have them dead
It's sad that perk exists when
Most specialists that can actually take a hit are maniacs
speciliasts and elites
are 2 different concepts btw
do not confuse the 2
maniac and flak covers your ragers
and all your specialists
Specialists are spawn ins. Elites are anything else that's taggable and roams the map.
Bombers are flak
no
???
Bombers are also considered specialists.
on the head they are not as far as I am aware
What I meant is whether this allows you to reach a certain breakpoint you otherwise wouldn't achieve, but regardless...
Oh well it 2 hit headshot on the ragers with it as is. 3-4 on the armored rager.
Which model?
With the Catachan am I only supposed to use heavy attacks?
Elites serve a purpose in that you can hit a lot of targets of wildly different armor types that matter, while having your other perk free, say if you already have Flak or Maniac, and you already hit the other damage type hard enough
No, but, which Mark?
its a mk12 what are the elites you will prioritise that are not flak or maniac
you will one shot every shotgunner and gunner with a headshot
cause you are definitely not going for bodyshots
I'm using an IA.
Pretty sure you're gonna need crit to flat out one shot a dreg gunner
I'm not sure what I was going for this bolter build...
IV
Yeah, but one shot.
yea so the 10% elites only gives you damage to headshots for maulers and crushers
It’ll be so awesome, it’ll be so cool
but at that point its carapace
bodyshotting maulers gonna take a while to kill either way
Which I was told is the best variant of that sword
Yeah you need to fish for crits for maulers, but you can still kill them fine
Swarm clear you can do L1 into H1 combo, repeat.
Optimal single target clear is technically constantly cancelling H1 (with a block or quick-swap back and forth)
in the end of the day run whatever you want but maniac flak is better overall for MGIA, MG12
How do I do that in a reliable way?
aight
Spamming L attacks against non-mixed hordes is also an option
Like, which one, the single target combo or L1 into H1?
L1 into H1 is as simple as it gets
No the H1 cancel
H1 -> block action, H1
or
H1 -> quick swap -> quick swap -> H1, etc.
and yes I was mistaken about bomber was confusing it with the scab flamer

Ok makes sense
scab flamer wears flak armour -> is entirely maniac
It's funny that bombers are implied to just have armored flesh
Scab bomber reveals head -> actually flak
Wait
The scab bomber has armor?
He folds so easily with two shots from a fucking autogun
indeed
Scab Bomber is fully flak armoured
He is only slightly healthier than a scab shooter
even though his head isn't, it's also flak
This irks me everytime I'm reminded of it
A whole new meaning to "My face is my shield!"
mauler are flak on body and carapace on head 
its easier to kill a mauler with body shots then headshots
What the person meant is that Bomber takes 3x melee damage
AH. Right.
So does the Flamer and Mutant, and Dog, by the way
dogs eating melee damage out the wazoo
but dont you dare shoot them with a bolter
The dog is weirdly bulky for a mutated mutt
and they survive 2 shots
It takes two bursts from my bolter to kill a dog
Usually
One if I'm lucky with the shot placements.
2 can take them out if one shot is a WS hit
Anyway. I need to go back to grinding the On Overwatch penance and losing my cool over it.
I just remembered how rough the lucius Mark IIIs charge time was on auric damnation
yikes
Do mutants still glitch out after dying while charging at you and get sent flying?
yeah it can happen
nah that's a feature 
Bruh istg dogs are too damn bouncy
They just go all over the place before you can kill em
They still are somewhat predictable in their pathing. Shoot them once, preferably body, watch them spin once or twice, while approaching them shortly. They stop spinning and prepare to pounce on you - this is when you have a window of opportunity to stick another round in their head
Hello, for veteran is there something like a zoom or a scope i can put on guns?
I gotta do the bayonet build
One of the more consistent ways to handle dogs is to force them to pounce, rather than allow them to lunge at you
but grinding for plasteel is going to make me pull my hair out
No, but there is a community-made mod that allows you to do that.
prepare to pounce on you
Fair enough, cheers
dogs have very generous shove windows
thats is an understatement
I have seen dogs pounce on a 90 degree angle
while not looking at me
They do that sometimes, that's true 
BUT they always should aggro on the person that shoots/deals damage to them
you can manipulate it
fairly sure i've got UI or some sort of shit of my vet because my dumbass is dodging dogs, mutants and other shit that tries to hit me from behind
fighting dogs is avoiding panicking and letting them path to their first attack point instead of knocking them around with 50 damage lights while 100,000 persiansoxwalkers swarm the team
I hate the pox hounds on fire
Because they’re hard to distinguish
And it’d already be too late once they pounced
dogs are my least hated special
Hunting Grounds with Survivalist Aura just means free Ammo refills 
I love shooting fire barrels
flamethrowers can cut the arena into four parts and by virtue split the team
and they cripple veteran in particular
spicy toughness obliteration
Funny boltgun
YER GETTING CAPTHURRRED
Fuck i hate em so much
They either show up when im preoccupied with something else, or ninja themselves in
6 crusher ram ranch would like to know your location @south prairie
Funnily enough i had that happen when i played an ogryn
Bull rushed them and what was waiting for me just out of reach? A fucking trapper
Got me like that 5 sledgehammer gif
Trapper season
You can give yourself history by dying in a run :3
Which power sword is better these days?
I find that the Mk VI is still amazing at horde clear while having much better single target damage for when something like crushers get up close
ty
Is a bit trickier to use though due to a slowdown effect on power charging
You can Charge the Mk VI while holding down Block, IIRC
at this stage i cant get pc4 from this right?
Imperial EDITION
If there is the same blessing of another tier on the weapon, no
more like scam edition
I'd switch the blessings and upgrade to yellow
And have more faith 
bro I still haven't spend the imperial smeckles in paid shop
that I have from Imperial edition
Is the Limbsplitter working with Bayonet supposed to be a bug?
yes
blessings isnt supposed to work cross weapons
plus
limb splitter on bayonet doesnt even have a cooldown
lmao
it's just perma 60% damage
Thats so nuts
it is nuts
my combat axe can't consistently body one shot mobs
bayonet can
it also three shot ragers
while also staggering them
Imma avoid using Limbsplitter for now
why
Dont wanna over rely on it since it'll be fixed
Any other blessings that cross apply?
the one that ignore mass on weakspot kill I think
that also gives weakspot damage
Oh bromentum
Oh shitz so if I have a combat axe with both Limbsplitter and Bromentum...
I was using it with helbore even before I know it's a bug
no wonder I was doing mad damage
why.... game....
Im scared of being addicted to this juiced up bayonet hahaha
Brunt and Hadron: Because Kark You thats why
oh damn!! I see you
oh didnt think about that
it almost worked
why would you have brutal momentum on PS
surely there are better blessings in the mean time
im not using it
so long as you've got maniac and flak with power cycler you're good
yeah but i want pc4
better off waiting for melk or the emperor to give it to you than fish for it with crafting
that would be the same as giving up
u should give up
beleive me the game is funner when you don't give a shit about blessings and crafting
dont need anything else
☝️
make 4 more vets
get them to 30
ez
Milk melk for everything you'll ever need
What does ignore mass do?
infinite cleave
what if it's outdated and no one update the mod lmao
in the future i mean
they'll still be there
pc4 is one of the few blessings i'd grind for
not even from a dmg output
just it is cool
I didn’t have to grind for PC4, but I have been grinding for BM4
The grind finished today
I am a free reject now
I am Dobby that received a sock

helps with breakpoints
Because it greatly amplifies most of the things you do with the PS? Better swarm clear, better elite clear, less damage drop-off with each target cleft
There is literally no reason not to use BM as the second blessing, unless you like different flavour of “more damage/power”, but they usually have conditions
Its approaching end of the month, pc players getting free cosmetics soon?
And BM just works if you click on heads
Well, probably. They might release an announcement of P2 anniversary and give the cosmetics to the mass
But that will mean... PC players would lose out?
I don’t get what you have typed, lose out on what?