#veteran-class

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hollow cloak
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@serene sage anyone else?

junior grail
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Yea I jest

last pewter
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then again it's not me that's really the problem, just, not a lot of people can handle when shit hits the fan

serene sage
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anyone want to join?

hollow cloak
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yeah

junior needle
hollow cloak
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shut me up

junior grail
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Ah... pubs

last pewter
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like a Chaos Spawn appears

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and then a horde from behind

bitter turtle
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if i join

last pewter
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and then our Psyker overcharges

bitter turtle
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im going to do the bayonet meme though

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:^)

last pewter
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and then someone pulls in a bunch of Ogryns from the front

hollow cloak
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i'm so in love with vld i can fuck it

serene sage
hollow cloak
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come join

junior grail
bitter turtle
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nah its ok

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im too shy

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👉 👈

hollow cloak
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get drunk

eternal sable
serene sage
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what if I say please 😄

bitter turtle
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ok

hollow cloak
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wecan do 2 bots ig

bitter turtle
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but dont shame me

hollow cloak
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if that's possible

serene sage
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honestly we are not even doing voice

junior grail
bitter turtle
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if i die miserably

hollow cloak
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aighttttttt

junior needle
bitter turtle
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on this build

serene sage
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we need a 4th

hollow cloak
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plz do

serene sage
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come too

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xD

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4 vets meme

bitter turtle
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how 2 even join

hollow cloak
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4 vets just realized that lol

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that would be nice

junior grail
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Man I'm jealous, wish I can play while at work

hollow cloak
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or psyker

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they can help so much they triviliaze the game for melee lol

serene sage
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my code is in my name and here 7713796223

hollow cloak
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u wanna host game foxhope

serene sage
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they can just add me and join

whole moon
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You missed the Imperium's finest.. no Ogryns?

hollow cloak
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ok

hollow cloak
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i got 2 more in me at least

whole moon
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I wish I could. Physically recovering from issues. I'll offer a mix of mild abuse and support from the sidelines

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Get it up them! Don't be a bunch of NurgleCucks!

gray finch
languid escarp
viral nacelle
whole moon
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They've been awfully quiet since that match. I reckon Chaos got em

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Yams last words being 'Tell the chat how well my recon did!'

bitter turtle
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memed by burster

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we lost withotu the power of thbe bayonet only vet

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ive never been launched into the finale platform like that lul

serene sage
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okay but bayo is not a meme

ebon umbra
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378 dclaw7 in brunt KEKW_ogryn

bitter turtle
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its not a meme indeed

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its TRUE POWER

hollow cloak
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ggs

serene sage
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that shit skewered a mutant

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one shot

bitter turtle
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imagine if had ammo usage on

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when i never picked up a single ammo box

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muh score

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seriously

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if i could put this on

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any other gun

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literally anything else

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even RECON

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that would be worth recon's lower dmg

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as a backup gun

serene sage
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second on every category, i cry

bitter turtle
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while you STAB

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somehow

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i did more overkill than actual dmg

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makes sense

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when ye

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it oneshots a mutant

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and meanwhile im horde clearing with it

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LOL

serene sage
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well tbf, yellow shield was up

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so yknow

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give and take ❤️

bitter turtle
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im actually shocked

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at how

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genuinely busted this thing as am elee weapon

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lol

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its literally the best melee in teh game attached to a clunky as fuck gun

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the worst part is when i have to swap to push something and swap back with that godawful swap time

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that's the only time i ever used the axe

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TO PUSH

serene sage
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just bayo things

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buy it while it's hot

bitter turtle
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lol

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the range on it is like

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longer than most melee i feel too

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so its just so good at poking everything to death

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fuck the gun

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bayonet only

whole moon
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The charge it comes with is just icing on the cake too, that netter thinks he can run? Nope

bitter turtle
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lol

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like

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its just so fast too

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its like knife but better

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in almost every way

serene sage
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they killed the grenadier gauntlet for less

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i fear for the safety of the bayonet

whole moon
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I feel like there's scope for a 4 way Vet stabfest vid.

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Like Ogryn slap

midnight mortar
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I told you man, the mk2 bayonet is good.

bitter turtle
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i was using mk1

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is there a difference

midnight mortar
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It doesn't look like it should be. Half the time it doesn't even feel like it should be. But it is.

bitter turtle
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i figured the fastest shooter would be the best pair for it lol

midnight mortar
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I want to say the mk1's bayonet has the same profile as the 2.

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But I'd need to dig through FS's patch notes to be sure.

bitter turtle
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lol

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that ending

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i let the power get to my head 😔

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ya i saw

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thanks for that lul

whole moon
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What is the sound?

bitter turtle
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jojo

whole moon
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Sounds like someone 'nummming'

fervent quiver
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It seems like it's impossible being a glass cannon vet with how people play right now

bitter turtle
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i dont even like jojo

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😔

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does the bayonet work with exhilirating takedown

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i mean i am killing with a ranged ewapon

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:^)

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damn

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it does not

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just tried it

serene sage
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anyway, gg boys, recon is still debatable on value kek

bitter turtle
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i mean

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it did do the lowest dmg overall

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not b/c skill issue

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but the gun just suggs

serene sage
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we knew

bitter turtle
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i unironically propose

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put a bayonet on recon to buff it

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that will make it a good weapon

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genuinely

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and it fits the idea of the gun

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they wanted it to be a close range smg type weapon

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you use bayonet and then shoot things occasionally when you need to

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recon fixed

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you're welcome fatshark

gaunt hinge
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Just use it with combat knife then KEKW_ogryn

bitter turtle
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bayonet is so much better tha n knife its not even funny

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and im a knife user

south garnet
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Nerf incoming

ocean moat
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Had to clutch solo using axe, no grenades, low ammo

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Man axe is not great for clutches

winter dock
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When Brunt gives you a godroll and Hadron bricks it with the worst possible blessings and perks

ocean moat
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Shovel my beloved

winter dock
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The Brunt Giveth, and the Hadron Taketh Away

gaunt hinge
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Bayonet only works if your gun has a slow swap speed

bitter turtle
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i only swapped to push

whole moon
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Is it just me or if you make sure your HB2 has charges missing you can ready it quicker by bypassing the ready animation by spamming reload

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Or something similar, just in understandable English

jaunty island
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Jesus yall were right about the columnus, first time hitting 400k

ocean moat
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Is there an armoury mod similae to vermintide

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I dont want to spend my precious coinage just to see the stats of a sword i will never use

jaunty island
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Im not sure, have you checked nexus? thats where I got the scoreboard mod

fresh mango
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man vet skill tree feels so bad

jaunty island
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it feels good with this build now, but getting to onslaught is a pain on the right side

bitter turtle
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do you need a build

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for column

untold moth
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I do

jaunty island
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Not really but it just makes it better. I spent about an hour earlier testing guns from recon lasgun, snubber, bolter, auto cannons and plasma

bitter turtle
ocean moat
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Ive been using right tree for columnus, feels good with the "keep moving" playstyle

jaunty island
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I go left tree down til after marksman then right tree to onslaught. I agree that keep moving style is my preferred

bitter turtle
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left tree is not really worth for columnus

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past the first row

jaunty island
bitter turtle
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ya

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i did

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i reacted to it

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gave you a good ol THUMBS UP

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lul

jaunty island
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Lmaoo oh I’m on mobile now

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Thing SHREDS.

ocean moat
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I will say, desperado is really good for axes and whatnot

bitter turtle
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ya

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i run desperado on my tree

ocean moat
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Finesss bonus is good

bitter turtle
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but its not strictly necessary, so i left it as a free point

jaunty island
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Even through carapice armor it’s insane

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I wish they upped recons rate of fire to make it comparable

bitter turtle
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it already fires faster

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the dmg just sucks is all

jaunty island
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Yeah then up the dmg just slightly to make the ttk comparable. Especially since it doesn’t hit carapice as hard

bitter turtle
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also it huffs ammo

ocean moat
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Right tree + columnus has let me stay alive every game so far

jaunty island
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Mannn first time that a level 4 felt smooth for me

ocean moat
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Not as alive as i would be sitting in the backlines BUT much more alive than my team somehow

jaunty island
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Yeah same I kept having teammates go down but it was easy to clear

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Hardest is prolly sniper scavs. At distance you feel the inaccuracy

ocean moat
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My teammates have been sucking dirt so far

bitter turtle
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crouching helps a lot for snipers

ocean moat
jaunty island
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I had someone yesterday pull TWO Daemon hosts on accident cuz “music was too loud”

ocean moat
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But yes sliding is very good for snipers

gaunt stratus
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how's the powderburn perk on a shredder autopistol?

jaunty island
ocean moat
jaunty island
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Lmfaooo and y’all presumedly wiped

terse shell
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if you're gonna pull agro on dh then psyker is one of the better one

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can tank forever with peril blocking

jaunty island
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Yeah but only if your team has the dps too

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A good Ogryn can tank it but yeah

placid portal
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Tank scary demonhead

sage agate
placid portal
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give em the good slap in the face

placid portal
abstract moth
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Ideas for melee shout build?

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I'll try it thanks

languid escarp
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it really is disgusting atm

abstract moth
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Yeah problem is can't really use revolver

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Health issues or more likely being a lost case of stupidity , never play games all the way to 100% for a long time or you'll regret it guys

whole moon
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There's only one right build now and it's a Hellbore 1 or 2 with a Limbsplitter/BM axe. 😉

abstract moth
whole moon
abstract moth
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Ah ok

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I'm unaware of thus bug

fresh mango
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would this be worth buying from melks?

abstract moth
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Yes

tall torrent
fresh mango
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the duality

whole moon
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Basically the bayonet attack is getting the melee blessing benefits. Isn't affecting all but definitely is w Limbsplitter and Brutal Momentum. The stab is really fast and can be charged up.

tall torrent
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<50% mobility
Terrifying barrage is bad
Infested is super niche
Deathspitter is only lv3

languid escarp
fresh mango
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i though mobility was ignore stat

languid escarp
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also you need a melee with these blessings

orchid hollow
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mm bayonet

abstract moth
languid escarp
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actually

ember mason
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how should i build mine because i am just getting shitted on every time i play

tall torrent
languid escarp
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nvm I think I like my current build

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I dont want either tinkerer or covering fire

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but yeah helbore bayonet is so dumb atm

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it 3 shot ragers while also staggering them

abstract moth
orchid hollow
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i been liking this vet grenade build with plasma and knife

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just ALL the grenades

river lance
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any tips on how to do these two?

tall torrent
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My build (26/30)
Red lines are optional depending on the weapons I’m using

orchid hollow
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on overwatch you should go low intensity mission

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and maybe infiltrate with the low threat

whole moon
orchid hollow
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no ammo remaining you could do with revolver ya

languid escarp
orchid hollow
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just spend all your ammo on a tanky monstrosity (ideally a beast of nurgle)

river lance
languid escarp
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or keep block on all the time and hope team know what to do

whole moon
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There is a cheese for On Overwatch, fall off a railing at start and die, get friends to res you at end of game. No melee damage = win

river lance
abstract moth
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I done it first try with plasma gun, low threat and only missed twice, I tried with revolver and shotgun but always failed, in my opinion plasma gun is the safest way to complete the challenge

ocean moat
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Is there a way to change your characters looks? I kinda made my vet look like a dumbass

languid escarp
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better safe than sorry

languid escarp
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malice is really easy with 3 people if they are levelled anyway

ocean moat
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Who is oska

ocean moat
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Where is he

abstract moth
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Left side all way

river lance
orchid hollow
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across from the commissary

river lance
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^

ocean moat
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Ty guys

sullen scarab
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Should I keep the +2 Stamina on this shovel?

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feel like that might come in handy slightly more than the +8% poxwalker damage lol

orchid hollow
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yea

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stamina better than that 8% to me

abstract moth
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For overwatch you can do it by yourself too I did it so you can too, remember only damage to your health counts not the armor, with shout you can even make it easier

languid escarp
river lance
ocean moat
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Get a group of relic zealots and shout veta

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Vets*

sullen scarab
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looool

orchid hollow
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make boom

sullen scarab
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I was going to put Decimator on it

river lance
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should i be worried about the trait survalist giving ammo? while i try to do "make every shot count

abstract moth
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I definitely gotta try grenade veteran sounds fun

river lance
abstract moth
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Just take a different aura perk, go for the shout tree

bright coyote
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find a low intensity malice mission ez money

fervent quiver
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...please buff the bolter

river lance
abstract moth
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What do you mean?

fervent quiver
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putting handcannon on the damn revolver invalidates the bolter

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in every single way

ocean moat
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Bolter is just a really fuckin slow revolver

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Like holy shit its slow

fervent quiver
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It being slow isn't what gets me

river lance
fervent quiver
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just... the sway sucks

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so fucking much

ocean moat
river lance
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and allies from their pov that would be me

fervent quiver
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Oh, I meant to ask a question

ocean moat
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It just kinda drifts away from the center

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Jumpy

fervent quiver
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What other blessing other than hand-cannon

atomic zephyr
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surgical

ocean moat
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^^

sage agate
languid escarp
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low intensity

abstract moth
# river lance

Ah i mean to do that you gotta stick close to them besides you won't find always veterans let alone with the cover fire skill tree, you can do it

ocean moat
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Brother i get 7 gunners on a normal run 😔

fervent quiver
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Well, I gotta keep russian roullete

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Don't have a 3 or 4 surgical yet

river lance
abstract moth
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My fav modifier is definitely high intensity specially in heresy, damnation or aurics, the one that keeps sending in specials and elite is always a workout for me so I avoid it

fervent quiver
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I have as well

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But... the revolver is just leagues better

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Noticed an immediate increase

oak cosmos
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even if I consider I am playing diffi 3

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it is wierd that my gun kills me more than the heretics

abstract moth
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What do you mean

spark helm
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Are you using a plasma gun and venting it after you've lost toughness?

abstract moth
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Getting killed with plasma gun?

spark helm
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That's what it sounds like. Nothing else does that I think.

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Yeah. Pretty sure veteran only has one thing that can do harm to itself.

abstract moth
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If you keep shooting it blows up after 100

umbral scaffold
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Fix bayonets

serene sage
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based Boltgun user

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you go fam

abstract moth
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Is definitely not hard to use and Is pretty useful, a plasma gun

fervent quiver
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Bro, it hurts

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it just just hurts

abstract moth
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I think just play with it more sunspear you'll get better with it

spark helm
# oak cosmos it is wierd that my gun kills me more than the heretics

It sounds like you're using a plasma gun.

In short, you have a fire icon that goes up to 100. Once it gets there, the next shot you attempt will overheat it and there's nothing you can do to stop that.

What you can do is prevent it by venting your plasma gun (which is whatever your special attack button is, check your keybindings and/or controller layout if you don't know) below critical levels or reloading it.

Reloading is the safest way to guarantee you drop any heat that's on your 0-100. However, the reload takes a long time.

If you're able to safely keep yourself at a distance from being attacked, vent your gun to allow yourself to fire. There's going to be toughness damage done but generating it by any means can be used to counter this.

I haven't figured it out but plasma guns seem to have a grace period where you'll be forced to look at the gun failing. If you fire again it blows up. This is your final chance to stop overheating.

abstract moth
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Same, I like bolter way more, wish they'd put a bolt machine like the one that holds 60 bullets

abstract moth
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Yes

fervent quiver
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Um... I would rather not have the shots go everywhere

serene sage
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Boltgun just needs a little help and it would be so fun to use

fervent quiver
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I want to be able to ads with it

serene sage
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boltgun is a type of shotgun

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thanks for coming to my TED talk

abstract moth
# fervent quiver A storm bolter?

I think so? I'm not heavy on lore but when I was playing deathwing that bolter was amazing like tatata killing does xenos used a lot the power sword and claws too

abstract moth
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Wouldn't be nice if them added a lmg for veterans? Like the ones that Gunners have

abstract moth
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Or something like Bardins minigun

fervent quiver
versed merlin
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man i've wasted 300k on power swords trying to get 1 power cycle....should i consecrate every power sword to yellow to get this blessing?

minor iron
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who tf designed auric maelstrom hab dreyko

versed merlin
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like legit i never get a power cycle on blue tier

minor iron
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i want a word

abstract moth
abstract moth
# fervent quiver Heavy lasgun?

I guess? Don't know the name but I'd like to have one of those it would be fun, maybe make it like 200 rounds and have a ammo capacity of 400

paper brook
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For the Emperor or with the Emperor?

abstract moth
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For Cadia

mellow sable
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For atoma!

languid escarp
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blew another 3k scraps and no PC4

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got PC3 for the fifteenth time tho

abstract moth
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Ok going to try out your skill tree build now

paper brook
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Is the Catachan Devil Claw still on top or has that changed?

languid escarp
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other than that you can just rambo since it one shot to the head most enemies

paper brook
fervent quiver
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Outcome: Cadia Go Boom

gusty bison
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Since thats more ammo than the infantry autoguns

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And headhunters

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With how hard bolters hit it would be difficult to have a full auto spam version that doesnt just either

  1. Run out of ammo very quickly

Or

  1. Invalidate the entire game if allowed to ammo hog
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Oh nvm u were talking about a lasgun having 200/400, not a bolter

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Mbad

gusty bison
fervent quiver
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The damn full reload speed of the revolver is quicker than the bolter

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And it hurts

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and handcannon existing also hurts

whole moon
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In addition to the quicker than bolter reload the revolver benefits from partial reloading that few other weapons get and the bolter isn't one of em

languid escarp
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i hope they change weapon specialist keystone to trigger on shot after swap, not on swap

grand sable
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do you know if the kantrael shotgun's fire procs onslaught

quick burrow
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which is the superior weapon

grand sable
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vraks feel like shit if u dont hit weakspot

languid escarp
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second one

gusty bison
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And bolter is faster if u animation cancel it.

fervent quiver
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It sways way too much

quick burrow
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do u take suppression immunity on the colum mk5 build?

languid escarp
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if you want a range bolter, it's called a plasma gun

terse idol
fervent quiver
opaque bramble
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It's a humbling experience when playing with friends that shouldn't even be playing malice and you can't carry them through heresy 😐

fervent quiver
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Honestly

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It's worse when your account is the same level

abstract moth
sage agate
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oh damn just realized deadshot doesnt work on plasma

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wasted a point on it this entire time

fervent quiver
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omegalol

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they haven't changed that

sage agate
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wtf...

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it'd be so good on plasma

languid escarp
sage agate
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free crit chance? ty ty

abstract moth
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Pretty much shout vet is kruber

languid escarp
sage agate
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but yea i think weapon specialist either guarantees a crit or gives +33% chance i forget

versed merlin
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does weapon rating matter to get power cycle 3 or 4?

sage agate
oak cosmos
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I usually keep the heat around 30~60%

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but for some reason my plasma gun can't one shot or double tap enemies

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so I kinda panic and forget to let the heat out

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which.... yeah

tame lichen
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I find myself rushing through missions now with right skill tree and power sword.

oak cosmos
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can anyone give me advice on using the plasma gun? for some reason Darktide is lagging crazy after the recent patch so pretty much my only choice is to use plasma gun

sage agate
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i think it only explodes if you charge rmb then fire while it's too hot

tame lichen
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the problem however is players whod rather kill everysing pox walker

sage agate
tame lichen
oak cosmos
tame lichen
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unless there are zealots

sage agate
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btw im struggling to find somewhere to throw a straggler point with a plasma build, any ideas where to toss it?

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i was thinking of taking precision strikes but idk if +30% weakspot hits any nice breakpoints

paper brook
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Damn no voice of Command telling you to get on your karking feet??

sage agate
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idk tho

paper brook
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Yeah I've honestly been considering dropping the focus target keystone and utilizing the points elsewhere since I don't really remember to tag enemies in the heat of batttle

grand sable
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should I just keep this as is

sage agate
grand sable
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cool

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I was bricking 370+ shovels then I found that in my inventory

wind patio
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Stumbled upon a really nice MK6

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I haven't used it much until now

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Having this literally fall into my pocket gives me an excuse

opaque bramble
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what's the advantage of the mk VI over the Mk III powersword? VI feels really clunky to use

wind patio
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So I've heard

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It hits weakpoints hard, with an excellent light attack followup

opaque bramble
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Ahh, so it's better for single target?

umbral scaffold
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How does it work with equipment? You have to buy new on a higher level to get best stats? I may did a mistake by upgrading a shovel i bought at lvl 5

wind patio
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Very nice for a kill combo when paired with Power Cycler

wind patio
terse idol
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but yeahh

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that 28 mobility

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Proobably gonna hurt

wind patio
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But, the light attacks are, which, with Brutal Momentum, help make up for that weakness, while also giving you the damage for the kill combo

elder python
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can someone help me understand this node? is alternate fire = aiming down sights?

old carbon
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anything use gloryhunter? just got a tier 4 one on my reward plasma gun

versed merlin
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not all weapons has the aiming down sights, so its written as alternate fire instead

sage agate
versed merlin
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we cri

elder python
neat sluice
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best blessings for a plasma gun?

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wondering if i should swap out blaze away with brittleness

versed merlin
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gets hot + blaze away

neat sluice
versed merlin
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imo brittleness is only an option if you want to deal more damage to monsters

whole moon
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Plasma ignores armour so it's only gonna benefit the rest of the team?

versed merlin
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oh it does? well then, not worth it

spark helm
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What are some common perks people put on knives?

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Got something solid with backstab rending and iv ws damage.

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Mostly going to be using this thing with bleed melee buidls for a more flexible knife in right tree builds.

keen sedge
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FINALLY GOT POWER CYCLER 4 MY BELOVED

odd sparrow
raw crag
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is there any significant difference between the 2 power swords?

odd sparrow
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the VI slows you on charge, But with the combo described above can kill a crusher in about second

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the III mostly just does horde clear

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which the VI does just as well. So theres no competition atm

raw crag
#

oh, is that the one that lets you do multiple powered attacks with one charge?

#

seems like the VI is more finnicky to land headshots with tho

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the push attack that is

odd sparrow
#

both allow you multiple attacks if you have power cycler

neat sluice
#

does shattering impact really not work on plasma gun?

trim hemlock
# neat sluice does shattering impact really not work on plasma gun?

It does, but doesn't benefit from it a whole lot. The gun not only can one shot most things in the game, it also has a very effective armour damage modifier against most health types in the game, so it's not really affected by brittleness if it already deals the most of its damage to all armour types.

neat sluice
#

its the one thing im iffy about on my gun

#

flak armor, get hot and blaze away

trim hemlock
#

IDK, see if that does anything for you in the Psykanium

neat sluice
gusty bison
#

Left click of course

keen sedge
#

i say keep carapace, unarmored targets go 💥 already

gusty bison
#

Theres a lot more unarmored than carapace targets

#

And plasma has worse unarmored damage than carapace

neat sluice
#

the one shot crusher plasma shot is nasty

#

but also ive had issues with dreg gunners because i have to double tap them

gusty bison
neat sluice
gusty bison
#

Which iirc is no better than just lmb spamming it

wind patio
#

Ammo efficiency bad, too :(

gusty bison
#

Rmb ammo efficiency is poo poo ye

sage agate
neat sluice
#

Exhilarating Takedown or Kill Zone also

hollow turtle
#

Played a match where 2 psykers didn't know how to act like psykers. Ended up just hoping the enemy would steam roll us fast so I could leave sooner.

sage agate
#

i take survivalist to try and keep them topped off so i can get ammo pickups

tacit patio
#

lucius my beloved

neat sluice
#

cant make up my mind if i want toughness or 30% weak spot fuck yous

wind patio
#

Just had a match where everyone went down to scab captain

gusty bison
#

Dont take it

hollow turtle
#

Lel

gusty bison
#

Exhil is good

wind patio
#

someone left, and the bot frame one revived the stealth veteran

sage agate
wind patio
#

and they revived everyone else

#

And the person reconnected

sage agate
#

i just opted for the flat +15% damage when 8m so i can take out crushers and bulwarks from the other side of the map

gusty bison
#

Not just your target

sage agate
#

yea

#

:)

wind patio
#

Yeah, and on higher difficulties, literlaly never.

gusty bison
#

If ur more than 8m from any enemy you are playing too far back

#

And causing extra specials to spawn

sage agate
wind patio
#

I KNEW the game tried to mess with you when you were far away

#

Why does Loner exist

neat sluice
#

Exhilirating Takedown vs Precision Strikes?

#

Im VoC vet

gusty bison
#

Plasma? Exhil takedown

wind patio
#

Also dependent on if you want to do stuff with power sword

#

because it affects melee iirc

gusty bison
sage agate
#

heresy teams do a better job of that

gusty bison
#

Heresy is the place where u get all the nonsense

noble onyx
#

Hell no

#

Yeah

sage agate
#

ok

mystic belfry
#

Heresy is the worst diff to play on

gusty bison
#

But yea prolonged out of coherency is very bad

noble onyx
#

Heresy is where the people not good enough for Damnation stick around

gusty bison
#

Its why kill zone is so bad right now.

Its really hard to keep up without poor play

noble onyx
#

Damnation can have bad eggs but those eggs wouldn't be any better on Heresy.

wind patio
wind patio
#

Well

#

There's a suggestion

gusty bison
#

Loner is stupid

wind patio
#

Make it not :)

mystic belfry
#

Just delete loner

noble onyx
#

Fatshark makes fantastic game design

gusty bison
#

XD

mystic belfry
#

Fatshark does a lot of things very well

gusty bison
#

Ok loner is fine if ur trying to save talents. Cos all the zealot auras arent that spectacular

mystic belfry
#

And a lot of things that dumbfound you

noble onyx
#

Is there even a use for Loner outside of terrible toughness regen?

wind patio
#

no

noble onyx
#

Wonderful

gusty bison
#

Thats it

wind patio
#

literally, all you do is gimp yourself an aura.

#

yeah that technically

gusty bison
#

Its the zealot equiv of a tax travel node

mystic belfry
#

Maybe if it made you always benefit from ally auras

noble onyx
#

That would be OP

mystic belfry
#

I usually just take the reduction aura

frank ledge
#

Like how clueless vets save talents not picking survivalist

wind patio
mystic belfry
#

I’d still not take it

wind patio
#

survivalist isn't mandatory

gusty bison
frank ledge
wind patio
#

It isn't mandatory tho

noble onyx
#

A loner Zealot benefitting from Vet's ammo regen all alone with Shroudfield? You'd have the new camo Vets.

frank ledge
#

5% move speed is shit
5% damage is slightly less shit

Only reason you'd go for them is some point saving which is bad

#

A build skill issue if you will

mystic belfry
#

As if they don’t play like that anyways

wind patio
#

Having 1 staff psyker on the team is equivalent to having a survivalist vet

#

And even without, ammo econ isn't that bad

frank ledge
#

Depends heavily on teammates

gusty bison
frank ledge
#

And weapon of choice

wind patio
#

Man, that's on them

mystic belfry
#

5% movespeed can be good on dagger, you get a total of 10% with talents on top of knife mobility

gusty bison
#

But yea ammo eco really depends on teammates

mystic belfry
#

Meme still though

frank ledge
#

No, not really

#

You can't still outspeed speedgryn

wind patio
#

S p e e d g r y n

#

This is new, what is that

frank ledge
#

80% mob knife makes ogryn able to cover more distance than every class

Add charge f+movement feat+ uppercut tech and u got a monster that completes missions in 14 minutes

#

Just need 4 of them to keep boosting each other

noble onyx
#

I always love people who imply that range focused classes/builds are gonna be the most ammo hungry.. When they can use melee just as much as others and in fact save ammo from higher damage.

junior grail
#

I still am not sure how to do the uppercut tech for Ogryn

frank ledge
#

Save ammo? Never

#

IT LOWERS MY DPS

frank ledge
#

I will go to 0 ammo and then use melee

frank ledge
#

Doesn't work on trappers

#

They just recover and force you to dodge

noble onyx
#

Trappers are stupid in their stubborness

#

They need a big bonk to stop being horny

wind patio
#

I have trouble believing that’s faster than a knife zealot built into speed.

inner gulch
wind patio
#

Especially with shroud

#

I’ll look it up at some point I guess

noble onyx
#

I guess it also depends on the map. Ogryn can ignore a lot more things.

wind patio
#

I mean, their resilience is equivalent to TWBS except Zealot gets rewarded for being hit. Just that they get more survivability

noble onyx
#

Well if you're getting rewarded for getting hit then you're not built for maximum speed, now are you?

wind patio
#

Idunno. Just seems weird to think that Ogryn can be faster with a very particular strategy.

wind patio
#

For zealot

#

Since getting hit restores stamina, you can also use it to strategically boost yourself

astral blade
#

Ugh boy console vets should not be using revolver

noble onyx
astral blade
#

And I say this because knowing how much ammo the other bet wasted

neat sluice
#

whats the best add clear melee option for the vet atm?

astral blade
#

Friendly fire shots 79

neat sluice
#

I've been using a savage sweep ramage chain sword

wind patio
neat sluice
#

should i switch over to the plasma sword?

noble onyx
#

Well the Power Sword is still number 1 when it comes to sheer numbers

wind patio
#

You can try Catachan or Power Sword

astral blade
#

Revolver should only be used by the pc lads

noble onyx
#

But a Catachan IV can indeed serve you well against most things

junior grail
#

I'm curious to see how xbox players play Darktide

wind patio
noble onyx
#

Yeah they struggle a lot harder.

junior grail
#

I imagine its like tank controls for some reason haha

wind patio
#

Some are alright, but the game is just too intense and needs too much awareness

noble onyx
#

Darktide requires a lot of precision that, IMO, playing with a controller doesn't really allow for.

junior grail
#

Even for those who play Halo and such?

grand sable
#

blueballed from getting transcendant, what should I hope to get for the 2nd blessing and should I replace weak spot w/ maniac or unyielding

wind patio
#

Having clear audio is really important too, and if they're on console, chances are they're not reaping the benefits of a good headset.

neat sluice
#

slaughterer vs rampage on a power sword?

wind patio
neat sluice
#

didnt realize there was two options

wind patio
#

The 3 specializes more in horde clear, but 6 has a lot more capability for general purpose.

noble onyx
#

I have yet to give the Mk 6 another try, haven't used it since after it was released
Felt the Mk 3 was simply superior back then

astral blade
#

If anyone disagrees with mah statement feel free to let me know

junior grail
tacit patio
#

luv me lucius

neat sluice
wind patio
#

If you're more interested in horde clear and grab MK3, just grab Slaughter
But if you want the MK6, you actually want Brutal Momentum

#

Sunderer is good too, if you really don't care for the extra damage and just want to hit everything

astral blade
#

Because I am of the opinion that only pc lads should be using the revolver instead of folks on console because of MNK and how accurate you guys are on MNK

junior grail
#

Is it weird that I like the blessing that increases Charged Cleave?

wind patio
jade notch
junior grail
#

I forgor the name

wind patio
#

But, I settled for Wrath, which is basically worse, but eh

wind patio
junior grail
#

Thankies

noble onyx
neat sluice
#

im going with a plasma gun and that is my end all be all for specials

#

so i want a melee that can chew through enemies to allow me to get back to shootin

astral blade
#

Also my rig is finally done 😁

junior grail
#

I am curious how a Bromentum Slaughterer PS work, in a world where Power Cycler doesnt exist

astral blade
#

Officially part of the pc gang I guess lol

jade notch
#

May it serve you well for at least a decade 👍

wind patio
paper brook
frank ledge
#

does it have nanogryns that transport your packets?

#

Ogryn is best

astral blade
paper brook
#

Good

paper brook
jade notch
#

Cracking Heretic skulls at a buttery-smooth 144 FPS

desert hawk
paper brook
#

Also is that the 5000d case?

astral blade
paper brook
#

14th Gen?

wind patio
#

The thing with Sunder though is that it not only increases cleave, but it also lets you go through things that normally would stop a swing, like Crushers, and Bulwark shields, to hit things behind them. It makes the situation of a rager hiding inside of a Bulwark, or several Crushers, more manageable.

neat sluice
#

but is it worth picking over rampage/brutal momentum?

wind patio
#

Depends if you want more DMG or more defense

#

Sunder will make sure nothing can hit back

neat sluice
#

best defense is a good offense

wind patio
#

Then BM :)

paper brook
#

Isn't the Helbore MK I the best?

astral blade
#

If I haven’t thrown it out that is

wind patio
#

Saw a vet using melee Helbore the other day on a random Heresy mission, was funny.

paper brook
#

But they're the best techniques

wind patio
#

And yeah, they were better than I expected

austere mica
#

What was their name?

wind patio
#

I dont remember

midnight mortar
austere mica
#

It might have been me, the bayonet is surprisingly good

midnight mortar
#

Mk2 is faster at charging. Mk3 is hardest hitting.

wind patio
austere mica
#

But only because of the bs blessing interactions

midnight mortar
#

I've been exclusively using the mk2 helbore in missions and it's quite strong with Fatshark's finesse buffs.

paper brook
wind patio
#

If I didn't already have one, this'd be a pretty nice one.

midnight mortar
#

And that's not even abusing its interaction with weapon specialist.

astral blade
midnight mortar
austere mica
#

My bayonet build doesn’t even have a keystone, but if the rightmost one worked it would be funny

midnight mortar
#

It does.

#

Get a kill with ranged and get a free +25% damage to your bayonet since it's treated as a melee weapon.

austere mica
#

I have that, I meant the crit chance and attack speed on swap keystone

astral blade
#

only slaughtering heretics with the best possible gpu

astral blade
hollow turtle
#

Think I can make this work with survivalist and +25% ammo passive?

trim hemlock
#

Does 10% elites do anything on this roll, by the way?

versed merlin
#

is it really needed?

#

like you already have plenty of ammo imo

neat sluice
hollow turtle
delicate estuary
#

sometimes flamers and other maniac specialists

#

will survive headshots

#

and it would just be better to have them dead

wind patio
#

It's sad that perk exists when

#

Most specialists that can actually take a hit are maniacs

delicate estuary
#

are 2 different concepts btw

#

do not confuse the 2

#

maniac and flak covers your ragers

#

and all your specialists

wind patio
#

Like, you'd include Bombers, Dogs, and Bursters

#

And Snipers

hollow turtle
#

Specialists are spawn ins. Elites are anything else that's taggable and roams the map.

delicate estuary
#

bombers, trappers, both flamers, mutants and dreg ragers

#

are maniac

wind patio
#

Bombers are flak

delicate estuary
#

no

wind patio
#

???

hollow turtle
#

Bombers are also considered specialists.

delicate estuary
#

on the head they are not as far as I am aware

trim hemlock
wind patio
#

On the head they are flak

#

lol

#

I know, weird, but their head is armored

#

Clearly.

hollow turtle
delicate estuary
#

in any case maniac flak is better for mk12

#

elites doesnt serve a purpose

paper brook
#

With the Catachan am I only supposed to use heavy attacks?

wind patio
#

Elites serve a purpose in that you can hit a lot of targets of wildly different armor types that matter, while having your other perk free, say if you already have Flak or Maniac, and you already hit the other damage type hard enough

trim hemlock
delicate estuary
#

you will one shot every shotgunner and gunner with a headshot

#

cause you are definitely not going for bodyshots

hollow turtle
#

I'm using an IA.

delicate estuary
#

MG1A to be fair

#

a couple of headshots

wind patio
#

Pretty sure you're gonna need crit to flat out one shot a dreg gunner

onyx nebula
#

I'm not sure what I was going for this bolter build...

paper brook
hollow turtle
#

2 shot headshot on the gunners with it.

#

No crit necessary

#

crit is 1

wind patio
#

Yeah, but one shot.

delicate estuary
stiff walrus
#

It’ll be so awesome, it’ll be so cool

delicate estuary
#

but at that point its carapace

#

bodyshotting maulers gonna take a while to kill either way

paper brook
wind patio
#

Yeah you need to fish for crits for maulers, but you can still kill them fine

trim hemlock
# paper brook IV

Swarm clear you can do L1 into H1 combo, repeat.
Optimal single target clear is technically constantly cancelling H1 (with a block or quick-swap back and forth)

delicate estuary
#

in the end of the day run whatever you want but maniac flak is better overall for MGIA, MG12

paper brook
hollow turtle
#

aight

trim hemlock
#

Spamming L attacks against non-mixed hordes is also an option

trim hemlock
#

L1 into H1 is as simple as it gets

paper brook
#

No the H1 cancel

trim hemlock
#

H1 -> block action, H1
or
H1 -> quick swap -> quick swap -> H1, etc.

delicate estuary
delicate estuary
#

scab flamer wears flak armour -> is entirely maniac

wind patio
#

It's funny that bombers are implied to just have armored flesh

#

Scab bomber reveals head -> actually flak

onyx nebula
#

Wait

#

The scab bomber has armor?

#

He folds so easily with two shots from a fucking autogun

wind patio
#

indeed

trim hemlock
wind patio
#

He is only slightly healthier than a scab shooter

trim hemlock
#

even though his head isn't, it's also flak

junior grail
onyx nebula
wind patio
#

And he also takes

#

3x melee

versed merlin
#

mauler are flak on body and carapace on head PsyduckConfused

keen sedge
#

its easier to kill a mauler with body shots then headshots

onyx nebula
#

Two overhead axe swings kills him for me.

delicate estuary
#

a knife push attack usually kills the bomber for me

trim hemlock
onyx nebula
#

AH. Right.

trim hemlock
#

So does the Flamer and Mutant, and Dog, by the way

delicate estuary
#

dogs eating melee damage out the wazoo

#

but dont you dare shoot them with a bolter

onyx nebula
#

The dog is weirdly bulky for a mutated mutt

delicate estuary
#

and they survive 2 shots

onyx nebula
#

Usually

#

One if I'm lucky with the shot placements.

trim hemlock
delicate estuary
#

yea

#

WS hit

#

when dogs do 360s

#

or 720s

#

and backflips

onyx nebula
#

Anyway. I need to go back to grinding the On Overwatch penance and losing my cool over it.

versed merlin
#

bro had a mutant doing a 360 out of nowhere today

#

was so hilarious

tacit patio
#

I just remembered how rough the lucius Mark IIIs charge time was on auric damnation

#

yikes

onyx nebula
#

Do mutants still glitch out after dying while charging at you and get sent flying?

ebon umbra
#

yeah it can happen

flint garden
#

nah that's a feature whatthefuck_heresy

south prairie
#

They just go all over the place before you can kill em

trim hemlock
# delicate estuary and backflips

They still are somewhat predictable in their pathing. Shoot them once, preferably body, watch them spin once or twice, while approaching them shortly. They stop spinning and prepare to pounce on you - this is when you have a window of opportunity to stick another round in their head

tropic spoke
#

Hello, for veteran is there something like a zoom or a scope i can put on guns?

near sable
#

I gotta do the bayonet build

trim hemlock
#

One of the more consistent ways to handle dogs is to force them to pounce, rather than allow them to lunge at you

near sable
#

but grinding for plasteel is going to make me pull my hair out

trim hemlock
tropic spoke
near sable
delicate estuary
#

thats is an understatement

#

I have seen dogs pounce on a 90 degree angle

#

while not looking at me

trim hemlock
#

BUT they always should aggro on the person that shoots/deals damage to them

#

you can manipulate it

astral blade
#

fairly sure i've got UI or some sort of shit of my vet because my dumbass is dodging dogs, mutants and other shit that tries to hit me from behind

near sable
#

fighting dogs is avoiding panicking and letting them path to their first attack point instead of knocking them around with 50 damage lights while 100,000 persiansoxwalkers swarm the team

onyx nebula
#

I hate the pox hounds on fire

#

Because they’re hard to distinguish

#

And it’d already be too late once they pounced

astral blade
#

lol

hollow turtle
#

My instinct is to push once I hear the snarling charge.

#

Whether or not i see it.

near sable
#

dogs are my least hated special

hollow turtle
#

Now TRAPPERS.

#

Fuck those guys

jade notch
#

Hunting Grounds with Survivalist Aura just means free Ammo refills KEKW_ogryn

onyx nebula
near sable
#

flamethrowers can cut the arena into four parts and by virtue split the team

#

and they cripple veteran in particular

#

spicy toughness obliteration

onyx nebula
south prairie
#

Fuck i hate em so much

#

They either show up when im preoccupied with something else, or ninja themselves in

delicate estuary
#

6 crusher ram ranch would like to know your location @south prairie

south prairie
#

Bull rushed them and what was waiting for me just out of reach? A fucking trapper

#

Got me like that 5 sledgehammer gif

onyx nebula
#

Trapper season

hollow turtle
#

Bethesda Gun Design.

#

With 19% ammo, it deserves that appearance.

onyx nebula
#

This is how you give gun history

#

Without needing a description

dusty ferry
#

You can give yourself history by dying in a run :3

real pumice
#

Which power sword is better these days?

languid dune
real pumice
#

ty

languid dune
#

Is a bit trickier to use though due to a slowdown effect on power charging

jade notch
#

You can Charge the Mk VI while holding down Block, IIRC

versed merlin
#

from where can i get this frame?

#

aw nvm

#

i aint paying all that KEKW_ogryn

low wadi
#

at this stage i cant get pc4 from this right?

robust cosmos
trim hemlock
versed merlin
acoustic wyvern
#

And have more faith KEKW_ogryn

robust cosmos
#

that I have from Imperial edition

junior grail
#

Is the Limbsplitter working with Bayonet supposed to be a bug?

languid escarp
#

yes

#

blessings isnt supposed to work cross weapons

#

plus

#

limb splitter on bayonet doesnt even have a cooldown

#

lmao

#

it's just perma 60% damage

junior grail
#

Thats so nuts

languid escarp
#

it is nuts

#

my combat axe can't consistently body one shot mobs

#

bayonet can

#

it also three shot ragers

#

while also staggering them

junior grail
#

Imma avoid using Limbsplitter for now

languid escarp
#

why

junior grail
#

Dont wanna over rely on it since it'll be fixed

languid escarp
#

have fun while you can

#

it's not a competitive game

junior grail
#

Any other blessings that cross apply?

languid escarp
#

the one that ignore mass on weakspot kill I think

#

that also gives weakspot damage

junior grail
#

Oh bromentum

#

Oh shitz so if I have a combat axe with both Limbsplitter and Bromentum...

languid escarp
#

I was using it with helbore even before I know it's a bug

#

no wonder I was doing mad damage

vivid birch
#

why.... game....

junior grail
#

Im scared of being addicted to this juiced up bayonet hahaha

junior grail
vivid birch
#

oh damn!! I see you

languid escarp
#

normal bayonet damage

#

/s

low wadi
#

it almost worked

languid escarp
#

why would you have brutal momentum on PS

low wadi
#

if u read the convo

#

im fishing

#

pc4

languid escarp
#

surely there are better blessings in the mean time

low wadi
#

im not using it

languid escarp
#

PS already got cleave in excess

#

hmm

low wadi
flint lake
#

so long as you've got maniac and flak with power cycler you're good

low wadi
#

yeah but i want pc4

flint lake
#

better off waiting for melk or the emperor to give it to you than fish for it with crafting

low wadi
#

that would be the same as giving up

flint lake
#

u should give up

#

beleive me the game is funner when you don't give a shit about blessings and crafting

low wadi
#

dont need anything else

pale lotus
#

99% of PC4 fishers give up right before winning big

#

You'll get it next round

low wadi
#

☝️

flint lake
#

make 4 more vets

#

get them to 30

#

ez

#

Milk melk for everything you'll ever need

broken thistle
flint lake
languid escarp
#

in the future i mean

flint lake
ebon umbra
#

pc4 is one of the few blessings i'd grind for

#

not even from a dmg output

#

just it is cool

trim hemlock
#

I didn’t have to grind for PC4, but I have been grinding for BM4

#

The grind finished today

#

I am a free reject now

ebon umbra
#

so u r dead

trim hemlock
#

I am Dobby that received a sock

ebon umbra
slender crown
trim hemlock
#

There is literally no reason not to use BM as the second blessing, unless you like different flavour of “more damage/power”, but they usually have conditions

junior grail
#

Its approaching end of the month, pc players getting free cosmetics soon?

trim hemlock
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And BM just works if you click on heads

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But that will mean... PC players would lose out?

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I don’t get what you have typed, lose out on what?