veteran-class

[cerulean void]

yeah the 1 and 3 are great

[stark hollow]

i wouldnt bring a hellbore into T5 but for chilling and messing around in lower tiers its fun to larp with

headhunter just feels weird to use

it wants to be a sniper but dosent have the oompf to back it up

[bright cliff]

they were not kidding columnus 5 is quite steezed

[stark hollow]

i love it

[bright cliff]

I forgor what the good blessings were, dumdum and??

[stark hollow]

feels like im shooting bullets

deathspitter or fire frenzy

[bright cliff]

ty

[stark hollow]

either one works

there is a guide in pinned for the vet weapons

[bright cliff]

sweet

[stark hollow]

this guardsman's primer is actually usefull as more than toilet paper

unlike what the imperium issues

[fresh mango]

[ivory rock]

be me
play vet
do no damage and be useless, die to a sneeze, have horrible ammo cost / reload times and abilities that dont synergize at all

be me again
play ogryn
do ridiculous damage and never have to care about anything because im unbelievably tanky, do good damage across the board, my worst weapon is still leagues better than vets best and my skill trees arent stupidly bloated and work together

take the anything but vet pill

[bright cliff]

don't tell anyone but I'm thinking of just playing gun psyker instead of trying to make vet work anymore

[fresh mango]

Hey what should I replace sprint with? bonus vs unyielding?

[stark hollow]

idk plasma gun and bolter is pretty fun

[bright cliff]

more power to you but the psyker has the columnus so

[stark hollow]

i feel wrong using a gun as psyker

[bright cliff]

like if its a vet only weap of course play vet but

[stark hollow]

if force swords had power cycler it would be over for vet tbh

honestly i really enjoy spam shouting as vet though

[fresh mango]

man why are ragers so tanky

[bright cliff]

so if you pick warp rider and the lightning thing plus telekine shield you basically get to make your own cover, constantly have +20% base ranged damage, 33% toughness dmg reduc, and every sixth weakspot shot is a guaranteed crit

[stark hollow]

literally too angry to die

[fresh mango]

Gun psyker is great, but cowboy psyker is where it’s at

[spare mountain]

Is Volatile still broken on Plasmas?

[stark hollow]

plasma now goes blaze away and gets hot

cause you cant blow yourself up anymore unless you use the charge shot

and also venting the plasma gun now only tickles your toughness bar

[spare mountain]

Should I use my last modify to change volatile to blaze then?

[stark hollow]

yea

[fresh mango]

man how i wish i could upgrade things to actually try new builds

[spare mountain]

also really hoping I can save this

[stark hollow]

although might want a new plasma gun

check pinned for the charge rate to damage ratio

cause somehow idk how, charge rate affects damage

[spare mountain]

wtf

confusing

[stark hollow]

i wouldnt bother too much with that though

[stark hollow]

up it lets go

[stark hollow]

t4 blaze away here we come

[fresh jungle]

mood

[spare mountain]

I'll swap Blaze to my existing plas for now

[stark hollow]

perks i use on my plasma are maniac and elite

[spare mountain]

nornally id hate reload speed but i dont mind it too much on plasma

[stark hollow]

though maniac and unyielding works too

[spare mountain]

if you had to pick from one damage type?

[stark hollow]

unyielding might help hit some breakpoints for ogryns but i prefer elite

[spare mountain]

assuming for t5 and up

[stark hollow]

hmm

[spare mountain]

Id rather get blaze away

and live with 8.5 reload

[stark hollow]

yea

cause now plasma lives off spaming left click

[misty delta]

why does the shovel have 2 stats that determine effective dodges and why can they be different

[stark hollow]

not sure if holding left click vs tapping left click has a diff

[brisk sapphire]

Hasn't been fixed to my knowledge

[stark hollow]

but purely left click without right clicking wont blow you up

[spare mountain]

It is done, then.

[spare mountain]

once I throw away 689 plasteel for gloryhunter III on that other plasma I'll stick to this one

[sage agate]

was about to cap out my plasma gun perks but i figure i should ask first if i should be looking for better blessings or just capping these out

[stark hollow]

trust the t4 blaze away

[solemn frost]

maybe your just bad at veteran

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stark hollow]

dear god thatt charge speed

[native lotus]

buy?

[sage agate]

it's tragic but me likey 80% damage

[brisk sapphire]

Swap volatile to blaze away and weakspot dmg to maniac

[sage agate]

still rolling for good plasmas

[stark hollow]

its so low its not even on the pinned chart

[spare mountain]

????

tf

[sage agate]

yea

[brisk sapphire]

O yea that charge speed lol didn't even notice

[sage agate]

very well balanced stats

worth seeing what it rolls

[stark hollow]

honestly id rather feed that to hadron for blessing

[stark hollow]

yes but

buy

[brisk sapphire]

Hell yeah

[sage agate]

mhaps

i'll roll a few more plasmas

[stark hollow]

remember 350 and up base modifier has higher chance for higher tier blessings

[spare mountain]

I rarely go below 360 when buying

[sage agate]

sick

[sage agate]

i got the autobuyer thing and have it set to keep anything above 360

[stark hollow]

nice

[stark hollow]

64 is one of the good numbers as well

[sage agate]

[ivory rock]

its unironically a better shooter rn

[stark hollow]

v nice

[sage agate]

so, rip off gets hot, slap it on the new gun, and should i go for maniac or unyielding?

[stark hollow]

put gets hot over gloryhunter and maniac over infested and youre golden

[sage agate]

cheers

[midnight mortar]

Fatshark's tech heresy at work.

[stark hollow]

i prefer maniac cause unyielding i can just charge the gun to shoot crushers

[spare mountain]

What's the modern perk/blessing BiS for the two Power Swords?

Probably still Power Cycler IV and slaught

[midnight mortar]

Brutal momentum and PC 4.

[brisk sapphire]

Brutal momentum for that mutie one shot

[stark hollow]

my plasma has piss low thermal but i can still get off 3 full charged shots

[spare mountain]

sweet, at least I've got PC III and BM IV

[stark hollow]

which deals with most big'uns

[midnight mortar]

Brutal momentum contributes higher weakspot damage and most importantly allows you to kill 4-6 bruisers without eating into your cleave.

Also lets you two tap crushers to the head with the mk6's push attack into a light 4 combo.

[spare mountain]

what about perks?

same for both Mks?

[midnight mortar]

Maniac and flak or carapace.

[stark hollow]

rampage still works good as well

[midnight mortar]

Yeah both mks want the same.

[sage agate]

i run sunder on my psword but idk how much "increased cleave" means

[midnight mortar]

You can go for rampage or slaughterer instead if you want.

But I've found better mileage with brutal.

Sunder lets you cleave across a bulwark's shield into ragers.

[stark hollow]

i use my psword for hordes mainly

[midnight mortar]

But you're still not dealing that much damage.

[stark hollow]

anything else gets the ol revolver/plasma/boltgun

[spare mountain]

So then you'd swap Supercharge with BM IV and specialists for flak?

[midnight mortar]

The fact brutal momentum lets you ignore hit mass is big.

[spare mountain]

sucks to lose a IV I don't have but

[midnight mortar]

Yeah, that'd be decent.

[stark hollow]

id want PC 4

[spare mountain]

I do not currently possess that

[stark hollow]

no matter what i always want PC 4 on ma sword

it makes a world of diff

[sage agate]

this, PC4 is big for ps

[stark hollow]

makes PC 3 feel like poopoo

[sage agate]

it's a pretty rare roll tho, so you could just run pc 3 for now

[spare mountain]

I have many high stat P swords I have been passively collecting

[stark hollow]

2 days in a row melk gave me 2 pc4 swords in his shop lmao

[spare mountain]

I intend to dump plasteel towards PC 4 after my ogryn is done

[sage agate]

i had to spend many tens of thousands of plasteel to get mine

😭

melk HATES my ass

[stark hollow]

melk hates my psyker

wont give im' a single staff

[spare mountain]

PC IV is the rarest blessing in the game, no?

[stark hollow]

its been months

[stark hollow]

not really

[stark hollow]

you can get it from 2 seperate weapons

BUT FOR SOME REASON I HAVENT SEEN A SINGLE SURGE for my voidstrike

cant wait to for fartshart to release the 2 handed Psword only for it not to share blessings with psword and we have to farm PC 4 all over again

honestly i think weapons should be shared between all classes. just that some classes cant equip certain weapons

so i only need to build one devil sword

would be nice yknow

[midnight mortar]

Well you see, people would stop playing if they built the weapons they wanted.

And the shareholders can't have that.

They need to see a 500% return on their investment.

So we need these mechanisms to extend player engagement.

[chilly sandal]

is the keystone still glitched?

[stark hollow]

or we could get more content

[midnight mortar]

Yeah but that takes more work than just padding the grind out with mobile game style mechanics and time gates.

[stark hollow]

coughs earnable premium currency like what was originally said would be possible

[midnight mortar]

Hahaha.

[midnight mortar]

Which one was glitched?

[stark hollow]

i might be Chinese and living in Asia but boy do i hate the Chinese

[midnight mortar]

My condolences.

[chilly sandal]

i heard the swapping weapons one makes you take 30% extra dmg

[midnight mortar]

China's culture is going to shape a new era of video game monetization practices.

[midnight mortar]

Ah no, that was Exhilirating Takedown. Not a keystone.

And that's been fixed.

[chilly sandal]

oh good

[stark hollow]

yea all the gacha games that are chinese like genshin kinda suck with their rates

[chilly sandal]

i heard fortnite is dying

[stark hollow]

good

[tall torrent]

The shop isn’t even optimized to maximize profit
Compared this to other live service MTX shops and it’s huge difference

[chilly sandal]

blizzard is already dead

[stark hollow]

kids should go back to playing leauge

teaches a valueable lesson

that you aint shit

really humbles you

[chilly sandal]

bring back xbox 360 cod lobbies

[stark hollow]

now cod can track what you say so voice reports are a thing now

[chilly sandal]

wtf

[stark hollow]

i cant use slurs and cus in english now. i gotta use chinese and dialect

or get really creative

[chilly sandal]

chinese slurs

[stark hollow]

like saying moon cricket

[chilly sandal]

black demon

[stark hollow]

or tell people to search for the 1992 sci-fi comedy

[midnight mortar]

Yeah that's the funny part. Fatshark seems to have half-assed the design in both directions.

But also seem dead set committed on not changing that course.

[ivory rock]

Or just used a bad match for the joke cause my main class is utter dogshit rn xd

[ivory kiln]

you know with this latest update the thought came to my head I'd love some arbites cosmetics

[stark hollow]

like if they just had all the cosmetics be available we wouldnt have this issue

[tall torrent]

If it was really properly monetized to maximize MTX spending then you’d have way more available options in the store than just the few between every rotation
And way more weapon cosmetics

[ivory kiln]

with the mission being a drug bust and all

[chilly sandal]

id love some more cosmetics that arent microtransactions

[stark hollow]

warhammer has so many cool outfits they could profit from

but they want to give us weird non-symmetrical shite

[midnight mortar]

Well, we do have those Enforcer cosmetics that were in the game at launch.

[ivory kiln]

vermintides method is commonly cited though mainly helmets I'd love more cosmetics

[midnight mortar]

But still aren't available to us.

Same as the launch trailer cosmetics.

[ivory kiln]

oh those necromunda-ey ones

[stark hollow]

the dead npcs have them why cant we rip it off their corpses

smh

[midnight mortar]

Yeah, those.

[solemn frost]

i reject your reality and replace it with my own

[ivory kiln]

I blanked those out as arbitrators I like the more robocop/judge dredd vibe kind

[stark hollow]

honestly the coding for this game is pretty shite. people have been able to mod it such that they can equip and play missions with unreleased premium cosmetics

[midnight mortar]

While Arbites would be sick, they unfortunately are too high end given the origin story as "rejects" that Fatshark is working with.

[stark hollow]

its just that they are scared of FS

[midnight mortar]

Enforcers however would be a good plausible fit.

[stark hollow]

so they wont release the mods

[stark hollow]

we literally have a commisar outfit

[ivory rock]

reject this

[midnight mortar]

Oh I was talking about classes.

Not the cosmetics.

My mistake.

Segued in out of habit.

[stone birch]

I would say a sister repentia if she were not to overlap so much with zealot

[ivory kiln]

we literally have a partial inquisitorial crusader outfit

[stark hollow]

arbites cosmetics would be hella lit. they give us the lawbringer shotgun and the bolter we get literally says its used by arbites

so y'know

i'd pay for a line of arbites skins like the krieg ones.

[ivory kiln]

I throw most ideas of "No they wouldnt give them that" when my character just is allowed a bolter

[stark hollow]

i know its not lore friendly for a zealot/ogryn/psyker arbites

but i still want it

[ivory kiln]

having a load of random regiment outfits isnt exactly lore friendly either but thats overlooked because cool outfits

[midnight mortar]

"A finger on the Monkey's Paw curls."
Arbites cosmetics will be added. They will cost 3000 Aquilas to reflect the increased level of ""effort"" put into their design. You will receive assymetrical half plates and no faceplate or visor.

[stark hollow]

esp since zealot gets the power beating stick

[stark hollow]

not helmet is not arbites

[fresh mango]

pray for me these dont brick

[stark hollow]

if they copy pasted robocop and said "here is ur arbites" i could still make it work

[ivory kiln]

theres like dead pdf guys around on the floor they'd be a cool cosmetic those dudes dead on the floor on some missions in purple clothes

[stark hollow]

rather than the rags they are handing out now

[stark hollow]

threaten hadron with a brick to the head

[junior grail]

We already have Veterans wearing Commissar gear

[fresh mango]

[ivory kiln]

or wait are they what the non traitor moeb 7th looked like these guys

[midnight mortar]

Those are Water Cartel gangers.

[ivory kiln]

ah

that makes sense

[stark hollow]

but somehow they chose to release the commisar skin without the classic commisar jacket (which btw is already in the game files)

[ivory rock]

Where's the long range fire frenzy to make up for vets (never applicable for use) 8m away from enemies bs

[stark hollow]

bet they are gonna release a commisar 2 outfit

[junior grail]

View all cosmetics mod made me realise that, am sadge

[zinc osprey]

That's the gene cult too

Dudes are all BALD lmfao

[midnight mortar]

Purple!!! GENESTEALERS???

[zinc osprey]

No fuckin way it isn't them

[junior grail]

I wish we fought some Water Cartel gangers

[solemn frost]

[ivory kiln]

hey a lot of the imperial dudes are bald, while a symptom of gene stealers bald does not = hybrid

[midnight mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786208719200583710/1175396639616278548/just-as-i-was-about-to-stop-theorizing-about-genestealer-v0-kkx5tjapfv0c1.webp?ex=65744eec&is=6561d9ec&hm=b843fecee164a82662be50276df85221a4003b20cec1724ca652e06f7db94d13&

[stark hollow]

pretty sure theyre bald cause fs cant design hair without making it look like its been blended and put through a pasta maker

[ivory kiln]

yeah when I saw that truck though I thought it looked genestealery but they do tend to just use what imperial citizens would have access to aka vehicles like that

[stark hollow]

the free version of sims4 has better hair than this game

[fresh mango]

The only thing scarier than a bald man, is a man whos balding but has like spikes of hair heihaci style

[stark hollow]

at this rate im gonna use the stims we yoinked from the carnival on myself

[ivory kiln]

4th vet ability popping a stim

[fresh mango]

we are getting the stims soon either in the form of an mission type or something

[junior grail]

Replace Smoke with Stim

[stark hollow]

would be actually quite interesting

[fresh mango]

or it’s just another mission involving the stims like the last one

[ivory kiln]

hell yeah

screw smoke

[ivory rock]

[fresh mango]

Smoke does suck ass, no one would miss it

[zinc osprey]

only spess marines are bald. its il le gal for anyone else

[stark hollow]

smoke nades should blind and also highlight enemies inside the smoke

[ivory rock]

explain this then

[fresh mango]

Ah shit fair enough

[junior grail]

Stim allows Vet not to get staggered, have 100% accuracy, increased movement and melee speed.

When duration is over, suffers withdrawal, slowed for a duration

[stark hollow]

just let us take meth

[thorn yoke]

you ever had a team where they couldn't handle poxwalker hordes... but also couldn't handle armored specials?

[stark hollow]

it worked for the germans in ww2

[fresh mango]

Remove the withdrawal bit, just give it a cooldown

[ivory kiln]

like a sort of haste from dnd that'd be cool sounds more like a zealot thing, basically kinda what charge does already but with less steps

[fresh mango]

like 30-45 seconds

[ivory kiln]

yeah

[stark hollow]

zealot im pretty sure is already on stims

[fresh mango]

I want a two handed psyker weapon

[stark hollow]

by default

[fresh mango]

two handed force grwatsword

[ivory kiln]

big force sword would be cool

[junior grail]

Here for meth and purgin heretics... and I'm all outta meth

[sage agate]

real

[stark hollow]

yessss

also power axes

[fresh mango]

I just wanna make melee psyker even better

[stark hollow]

or dual wield chainaxes

[junior grail]

Force axe, Power Axe, 2 Handed Chainaxe

[sage agate]

what's a good keystone for plasma btw

[stark hollow]

if the rager can do it so can it

[fresh mango]

let Vet use melee and pistol

[tall torrent]

Melee staff

[junior grail]

Weapon Specialist

[sage agate]

waiting for chainshovel and 2hchainaxe

[sage agate]

cool, thought as much

[stark hollow]

POWER SHOVEL

[fresh mango]

can’t wait for chain shovel to be a skin

[sage agate]

combine two things the heretic fears most: a chainsword and a shovel

[junior grail]

Doubt they'd put less commonly seen weapons in

[stark hollow]

my psyker staff is already a long ass power shovel that shoots fire

[ivory kiln]

what about the other directed give them a power knife

[fresh mango]

I think the only thing holding back certain weapons is GW

probably why Melta and others have taken this long

[junior grail]

It'd be funny if we got Hunting Lance

[stark hollow]

fuck GW

[junior grail]

Special is to arm explosive

[sage agate]

forget meltagun, i want my hellgun and longlas

is GW actually controlling how quickly we get swag weapons tho

[stark hollow]

dont think so

but still

[junior grail]

GW in charge of IP

[midnight mortar]

Unlikely.

[stark hollow]

fuck gw

[junior grail]

So we wont get anything FatShark isnt approved to use

[midnight mortar]

Fatshark's time management with DT overall has been quite poor.

[sage agate]

well hopefully we get some fun new toys to play with on the part 2 update before fatshark takes their winter break

[fresh mango]

GW controls what goes into their games

Total war for example

[stark hollow]

pretty sure all the ogryn weapons are lore accurate

[junior grail]

Probs why we won't get Orks, Tau, Slaanesh, etc

[stark hollow]

which ones arent

[fresh mango]

they approve or disapprove what’s put in, it’s probably the same thing for darktide

Orks will be Darktide 2

[sage agate]

inb4 gw forces fartshak to use a DLC model to unlock new weapons

[junior grail]

Ogryn has barely any weapons listed in lore afaik

[stark hollow]

all seem ogrynish enough to be aight

[midnight mortar]

Look at this clown, a "veteran" look.

[sage agate]

the mismatched pants kill me

[fresh mango]

i mean

[junior grail]

Unlisted in tabletop I believe

[stark hollow]

not like they are giving im a heavy bolter

[sage agate]

i forgot about this 💀

[stark hollow]

GW's lore is a whole mess anyway

[sage agate]

worst part is i think everything in that pack was pretty mid

[fresh mango]

Uhhhh siennas staff is pretty good

[junior grail]

Moon bow WAS really good

Trollhammer is fun

Coruscation Staff is chefs kiss

[stark hollow]

tabletop is just so GW can make cool looking stuff and then unlist them so players cant use the models they spent hundreds on and have to buy new ones

[fresh mango]

GW loves to make lore and then never ever fucking remember it

[stone birch]

GW's lore is still more coherent and sensical than most other pop sci fi that has come out since then tho lol. Everything's falling apart.

[sage agate]

corpse starch rations make my wrists strong, fs pls

[junior grail]

Ogryn not enough finesse to operate a Heavy Bolter imo

[ivory kiln]

last I recall I had a trollhammer that got ammo back on headshots so it basically was a free ammo gun

[stark hollow]

Warhammer lore is good on the surface. then you look at the details like weapon and vehicle specs

[junior grail]

Im sure the giant Catachan who uses a Heavy Bolter isnt baseline human

[stark hollow]

like how baneblades have only 200mm of armor if im not wrong

[stone birch]

the new M5 could put space marines down pretty consistently.

[ivory kiln]

I find looking into the ttrpgs to get some more out-there ideas, something they'll never add but I think would be amazing is a hand portable las cannon

[junior grail]

They're one step away from being a new class of abhumans, even called baby Ogryns

[fresh mango]

Hell the one thing I want the most is a volleygun

200+ ammo, rapid fire, spray and pray goodness

[low oar]

Can an ogryn and a regular human have a child?

[stark hollow]

also like how a chapter can supposedly take a world of billions. when horus heresy had thousands of marines land to take worlds

[ivory kiln]

auto cannon for ogryn would be rad but I dont know how balanced that'd be

[sage agate]

im pretty sure all ogryns are sterile

[junior grail]

Hold on, you can ask an Inquisitor that

[low oar]

Like how genetically diverged are abhumans

[stark hollow]

there are cannonically female ogryns

there are models for them

[stone birch]

the entire concept of custodes and space marines forget the hurdles of scale and logistics in war.

[low oar]

That actually doesn't make sense for a population

[sage agate]

idk thought i read they were sterile

could be wrong

[junior grail]

Either way, the Sergeant is rare even for a Catachan

[sage agate]

[low oar]

Space Marines, primaria, and custodes are sterile

[sage agate]

maybe

[stark hollow]

female ogryn

[low oar]

Ogryns are just some random stronk dudes

[fresh mango]

hot shot lasgun too please

[ivory kiln]

well thats ogres from bloodbowl

[low oar]

My ideal woman

[stone birch]

same thing.

[low oar]

Seriously. Has any book explored abhuman crossbreeds?

Even if the children aren't fertile after

[stark hollow]

huh

well at least female ogryns are referenced in a few books

[stone birch]

No, like how almost nothing explores all the coolness that could be the Magos Biologis. I want my discount custodes please and thank you

[stark hollow]

i think a combat servitor class would be cool

[low oar]

My teammates are already pretty much servitor level intelligences

Don't need a servitor class

[stone birch]

just take the half step above: sicarians

[stark hollow]

are those the funny leg metal men the mechanicus uses

[stone birch]

it'd be really metal if we could play a junked up skittari able to be equipped with such limbs.

yes

[sage agate]

gimme any sort of mechanicus class and a radium carbine

[stark hollow]

the lore for the skittari would be that he is the dipshit who hadron trusted with upgrading our weapons.

then hadron found out he had been bricking them all

had him turned into a skittari

we finally get a character with the same iq as the ogryn

love it when you see the ogryn saying he hates abhumans

[serene solar]

Did we get the new talent tree on Vet and if so how is it?

[stone birch]

would allow for some silly heavy weapons to be toted around. the mark target is capstone is good, I hear weapon specialist is bonkers if you are willing to spam Q; and the marksman focus tree needs buffs.

[stark hollow]

yes i want my cancer gun

[stone birch]

delicious cancer makes the machine god happy

[serene solar]

Gotcha, thanks chief

[sage agate]

woe, cancer be upon ye

[stark hollow]

you think a scout marine class would be going against FS statement of no marines

[stone birch]

100% yes

[stark hollow]

i mean they arent even full marines yet

[stone birch]

tho I do imagine the beefy bois from Space Hulk: deathwing would portal in, scream WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON, then fall in with the rejects.

[stark hollow]

ive said this before, but if genestealers do happen, having cutscenes where deathwatch terminators teleport in after we place a beacon would be hella cool

valk comes in to pick us up as a horde surrounds us and then boom the terminators pop in to do their job as we piss off

[stone birch]

that'd be cool af

[sage agate]

if space marines need to drop in, this planet's fuced

[stark hollow]

it would make me feel like im doing my part

[stark hollow]

to be fair this planet is pretty fucked alr

[sage agate]

besides i think this planet is isloated from supply lines

which is why rannick is employing rejects

or grendyl w/e

[stark hollow]

we got chaos spawn, daemonhosts, beasts of nurgle, etc running amok

[stone birch]

Tertium is 100% already fucking fucked.

[sage agate]

4 crackheads is all you need

[stone birch]

what we see is just the secondary conflict.

[stark hollow]

the main shit that is happening is where grendyl is at

[ivory kiln]

seeing skitarii or crimson guard included would be cool though they bring some weird differences to regualr stuff like intergrated weapons

[stark hollow]

im surprised they didnt virus bomb atoma

the resources will still be there

[ivory kiln]

you dont bomb your factories

[junior grail]

We're cut off from reinforcements, so no Space Marines etc

We're in a Firestorm Frigate so no Exterminatus etc

[stone birch]

virus bombs would leave the machines alone. but not the biology lol

[stark hollow]

just need to import some men to fill up the gaps

[stark hollow]

exactly

[stone birch]

but if I am wrong or misremembering Virus Bombs, please tell me

[stark hollow]

seeing as the damn upper hive is already swarming wiht poxwalkers

[junior grail]

The Mourningstar is a modified Firestorm Frigate without the Lance, assumedly for more storage space, considering the Rogue Trader owner.

So doubt they've got Exterminatus level ordnance

[ivory kiln]

yeah I was about to bring that up

[stark hollow]

its just a wee bomb

[junior grail]

Nothing wee about Exterminatus lol

[stark hollow]

also like idk why the whole operation is being run out of a single frigate

youd think the inquisitor would have a bigger ship

[junior grail]

There was a prison ship too

But it got blown up in tutorial

[ivory kiln]

real talk though some of the art for crimson guard is insane look at this dude

[stone birch]

ah, explodes as a secondary effect. I must be thinking of more tame virus bombs employed in 30k and before; the kind that can be targetted if tuned enough

[junior grail]

A lil derp imo

[buoyant slate]

i have discovered the joys of stabbing things with the mk1 lucius

[stark hollow]

was he eating the toasters and the toast?

[buoyant slate]

turns out the bayonet poke is actually pretty damn good

[junior grail]

shank shank shank

[stark hollow]

practically a spear

[jaunty birch]

My fave way to kill mutants

[buoyant slate]

you can do it fast, it does pretty decent damage, has good range to it, and has a decent stagger to it

[ivory kiln]

he's got that multilas plugged into him so he's probably got loads of gubbins in there

[buoyant slate]

a dreg rager runs up on me on damnation and i just poke him in the head until he dies and he can't do anything about it

[stark hollow]

motherfucker was eating all the damn plasteel thats why we need so much of it

[ivory kiln]

so thats where it goes

[stark hollow]

thought it was a damn soup can

[ivory kiln]

hadly makes sense that hundreds of plasteel is needed for just a single weapon

[stone birch]

this motherfucker can ice whole terminator squads with a good enough roll. he scurry

[junior grail]

We have anorexia version

[stark hollow]

whats with the exhaust dong

[ivory kiln]

if someone runs inbetween the legs they'll hit their head on it

[stone birch]

that's GW making fun of us Ad-Mech players the way they used to make fun of Eldar T_T

[ivory kiln]

that wouldnt work he's got no exhaust

[stark hollow]

somehow eldar is being ignored by GW but because of that they havent had their rules changed and are still strong as fuck

this is what peak golden age tech looks like

[stone birch]

stiltblade is best baneblade.

[stark hollow]

the real warmaster

horus saw this and felt inferior thats why he went on his lil tantrum

[junior grail]

Remember Ynnari? Yea me neither

[ivory kiln]

I think horus would have won if he was just like a stilts length taller

[stone birch]

any day now, harlequins are getting the rest of their model line! right? ... right?

[stark hollow]

made as a plot point for rowboat and then forgotten

imagine if vashtor gets the same treatment

hur dur heres a reason for lionel to come back

lil while later

hes forgotten

[grand sable]

ok gents

[stark hollow]

show me the money

[junior grail]

Vashtorr is awesome though, I like him

[stark hollow]

yea he is p cool

[junior grail]

Daemons can't comprehend how straightforward and honest Vashtorr is

[stark hollow]

is that bricked?

i dont use shovel

but according to pinned its bricked

[junior grail]

Kinda bricked

[grand sable]

probably replace trauma with decimator and stam with unarmored or infested

I'll see

if plasteel allows

[stark hollow]

what does decimator even do

[stark hollow]

ah

more bonk= more pain

[junior grail]

Its 50% power max for Deci4, really strong

[stark hollow]

is it like shred where if you miss an attack it resets your stacks

[grand sable]

ye

[stark hollow]

damn

is it a bug tho

dont think it should reset stacks if you miss a swing

[junior grail]

It used to reset on block

[grand sable]

dont think it's a bug

[junior grail]

If you block cancel its fine

Heck it used to reset when you sprint too

[stark hollow]

lame

[junior grail]

Its fine

Easily sustainable

[stark hollow]

i want my two handed shovel

[grand sable]

just want to see other classes use two handers

[stark hollow]

zealot should get to go full rager imo

[junior grail]

Darktide eviscerator looks illegally small

[stark hollow]

i think the chain, power and force weapons should be toggled not push to talk

[junior grail]

Weapon in each hand for Zealot, that'd be fun

[sage agate]

we are baseline tbf

[stark hollow]

i want gabriel seth's sword

ogryn can use it

hes a big boy

[junior grail]

Those baseline human in models and arts have pretty big Eviscerators if you ask me

[stark hollow]

id say we are getting bottom barrel equipment, then i see that psyker has a deimos force sword

[junior grail]

Just an extra 4 inches would be fine...

...theres a pp joke in there somewhere

[stark hollow]

didnt know deimos even made weapons for normal sized humans

[junior grail]

Especially noodle armed psykers

[stark hollow]

i love seeing the psyker whip his noodle arms around and bisect and decapitate enemies

flailing the sword around with enough strength to split bone

[junior grail]

Psychically strengthened

[stark hollow]

maybe we are just a really small grey knight

would explain why out brain dosent leak out of our anus the moment we are withint earshot of a daemonhost

[native lotus]

which one

[junior grail]

Right

[stark hollow]

id try again for a better one tbh

id feed volatile to hadron and move on

[junior grail]

Stopping power pretty significant

Plasma aint easy to get good stats after all

[stark hollow]

charge rate also is kinda decent i guess based off the chart

[junior grail]

Plasma dumpstat? Whats that?

[stark hollow]

ammo

[junior grail]

Even that is relative dumpstat

[stark hollow]

thermal resis can be a relative dumpy too

i suppose

mine is 64

[junior grail]

Yea mine too

[tame lichen]

People mus not play with headphones

I'll see someone with tunnel vision fighting horde and just let 3 mutants run behind them

Happens way too much in auric lately

[shell berry]

Robbed

[stark hollow]

shit happens i guess

[stark hollow]

honestly no clue if thats good

[junior grail]

Many newcomers to auric I find

[stark hollow]

the crit chance is nice tho

[tame lichen]

And dont get me started on the library mission. Randoms would rather stand than rush through the mission as intented

[stark hollow]

i play auric pubs if i wanna feel like being kicked in the nuts with a steel toe boot

[tall torrent]

any tips on fighting rager packs and crushers with chainsword?

[stark hollow]

dont

[tame lichen]

Hope you have shout available

[tall torrent]

Oh lol so it’s like
In terms of fighting crushers, you do not fight crushers

[sage agate]

rager packs, just use your lights and hit their heads. dont rev or ur dead

[junior grail]

If you absolutely have to, isolate one at a time. Rev push attack is safest

[stark hollow]

one maybe

[tame lichen]

I use mk6 power sword so it aint really an issue

teammates however

[stark hollow]

but if theres a horde around you, have fun being downed

[tall torrent]

Yea I’ve noticed, rev is sorta irrelevant for the vast majority of situations

[sage agate]

it's only really for muties, crushers, and maulers

and maybe to dunk on any other specials

[junior grail]

Nades, shout, barrel. Anything you can use to knock them down and make space

[stark hollow]

i rev crushers on malice and below to feel like my weenie is big

[sage agate]

but rule of cool trumps meta so i sometimes just rev and saw a poxwalker in half lol

[junior grail]

I just rev bosses, i got the bleed blessing

[stark hollow]

yea that works well on em

[junior grail]

You like the rev vibrations on your weenie eh?

[tame lichen]

Rev currently is only good if you weapon swap using weapon specialist for ammo replenish

imo

[stark hollow]

i just like watching them bleed to death from a single rev

[junior grail]

Even then others like Powersword or Caxe benefit more from Weapon Specialist, being able to swing faster

[tall torrent]

The issue I have rn is:
Antax needs a bunch of point investments to have good breakpoints
Rashad godroll is pain
Achlys moveset is goofy
Power sword dodges are horrible
I don’t have high lvl uncanny strike on shovels
Hadron bricked every one of my DC swords except a few mk1s lying around
Knife has horrendous horde clear
Tac axes are meh

[junior grail]

Claw Swords?

[stark hollow]

shovel time it seems

[tall torrent]

Hadron bricked so many of them that I only have 5 blessings not harvested out of the total 40 (10 per tier)

[terse idol]

You need a god roll for Rashad? I thought it was pretty good baseline

[junior grail]

Also i play Shovel without Uncanny Strike, works fine for me

[tall torrent]

U need a super specific roll for every breakpoint

[terse idol]

ooh

[stark hollow]

i also dont see chaxe there. seems like your choice is made

[tall torrent]

Takes literal ages to kill crushers and maulers

[junior grail]

In fact i feel Decimator is more important for Shovel

[terse idol]

You could try to Dclaw

[umbral scaffold]

i have a friend that has been trying to do the make every shot count penance anyone know if its bugged or not

[junior grail]

You don't rush to kill Crushers with shovel lol

Even with Uncanny it takes a while

[tall torrent]

Doesn’t chain axe have horrible horde clear too?

[terse idol]

Is He in a private lobby?

[stark hollow]

go challange crushers and maulers with this

your team will love you

[junior grail]

Just poke to stagger and shoot them

[tall torrent]

I don’t think u need rev it up

[tame lichen]

The only melee worth rushing crushers with is psykers calvary sword. shit 1 taps

[umbral scaffold]

yea its the redacted one i told him that but i just wanted to double check

[stark hollow]

makes you faster

[terse idol]

Yee

And is he in a private lobby?

Iirc, he can only do that in a private now

[tall torrent]

Thunderous is kinda better?

[junior grail]

Stab poke for days

[tall torrent]

But my issue is that I need smth that deals with both horde and crushers & maulers fast

[stark hollow]

im memeing

[tall torrent]

Ragers I can run bayonet for the funny (bayonet kills them so well it’s amazing)

[junior grail]

Whats your gun, ability and blitz

[stark hollow]

also ive never used chaxe in a mission before. tried it in meat grinder and felt grossed out

[tame lichen]

meme weapon

[stark hollow]

malice level weapon

[tall torrent]

Either helbore2 or IAG
I have a godroll helbore2 and I run an antax with it rn

I think IAG meta is dum dum + stripped down (+ duck & dive talent)

[tidal rapids]

So, should I try rolling for good lasgun or autogun?

[sage agate]

slight bit of redundancy to run antax with a helbore methinks

[stark hollow]

dumdum and deathspitter/firefrenzy works good too

[sage agate]

whatever is fun to you

[junior grail]

If you run Krak Grenades, your anti armour is good enough.

[tall torrent]

I don’t run krak

[stark hollow]

or god forbid stealth iag builds

[tall torrent]

I’ve tried, dum dum + stripped down is probably as optimal as you can get

[stark hollow]

with raking fire

[junior grail]

Try it

[tall torrent]

Don’t have the points to spare + frags are just more versatile

[stark hollow]

stripped down is immunity to range on kill right?

[junior grail]

Then you just have to rely on others for anti armour I guess

[tall torrent]

Stripped down IV is ranged attack immunity when above >50% stamina

[sage agate]

emperor forbid we utilize our team in a team game

but tru enough for when the pub is 3 vets running the same loadout

worst blunt rotation ever

[junior grail]

I prefer more generalist builds nowadays as there are so many randos that cant cover any weaknesses I may bring

[stark hollow]

ah. my vet is always no stam tho

i use stripped down on my braced autos

[sage agate]

drop a point into vanguard for that -20% stam

[stark hollow]

stripepd down gives you immunity when sprinting only though

i prefer hit and run

[tall torrent]

Axes are pretty good with crushers & maulers

[junior grail]

You said you didnt have a good axe

[tall torrent]

Duck & dive refills 30% stamina when avoiding ranged attacks with sprint, slide & dodge

[tall torrent]

I have one médiocre Antax that doesn’t hit all the breakpoints I want

[stark hollow]

eh too much dodging for me

not my thing

[tall torrent]

You don’t need to

Stripped down’s ranged immunity counts as dodging

[bold bridge]

You just sprint through bullets with that setup

It's fun af.

[junior grail]

Grind never ends

[tall torrent]

So you get infinite stamina and can face tank gunners so long as you’re sprinting

[stark hollow]

so if you dodge/slide stripped down applies?

[tall torrent]

You don’t need to slide

[bold bridge]

Backwards

[tall torrent]

You just need to be sprinting and getting shot at

And you get infinite stamina

[bold bridge]

Stripped down turns your sprint into a dodge vs bullets

[stark hollow]

hmm

[tall torrent]

This allows you to tank like 50 gunners and move from cover to cover no problem

[bold bridge]

Which triggers duck and dive

[stark hollow]

might test it out i suppose

[tall torrent]

It’s not pure dps but it keeps you alive

In a meta where veteran gets overwhelmed by so many things

Incredibly valuable imo

[stark hollow]

plasmagun and psword with voc keeps me alive good enough for now

[junior grail]

I want a ranged monstrosity, other than BoN

[stark hollow]

let plauge ogryn throw rocks

[tall torrent]

I need a good Rashad and a good Graia IAG

[junior grail]

Theres a ranged variant model of Plague Ogryn

[stark hollow]

is there?

do they look diff

or not implemented yet

[junior grail]

It had a gun for a hand, not implemented. Don't know if they will

[tall torrent]

Would run smth like this for it

[stark hollow]

sounds kinda gay

[junior grail]

It was datamined months back

[stark hollow]

we alr have enough things shooting at us

the shooter ad/gunner/shotgunner spam is kinda dumb

[junior grail]

Whats dumb is their 100% accuracy

[tall torrent]

I haven’t tested but
Apparently stripped down also allows you to “dodge” sniper shots by sprinting

[delicate estuary]

have you tried bleed on crit talent with more weakspot damage on bleeding targets blessings for the knife

[stark hollow]

why are plauge infested dirty hobos with no military training shooting full auto guns better than us

[delicate estuary]

helps quite a bit with horde clear

[serene sage]

Extremely based build, I like it

[tall torrent]

Well the issue is if you don’t have uncanny strike you have really bad armor damage

[serene sage]

Maybe improv to demo team instead?

[stark hollow]

unless space aids helps you aim bettwe

[tall torrent]

Improv is more clutch imo

[delicate estuary]

yea but you cant have an all in one weapon setup. Use your ranged for armor damage or use nades even without uncanny you can do significant damage with mercy killer and bleed on crit

[tall torrent]

It still would horde clear worse than most other weapons and not get to deal with elites fast

[tall torrent]

The issue is, losing 30% weakpoint makes a couple weapons really suffer

This is very strictly made for stripped down IAG

Losing 30% weakpoint makes helbore2 one shot dreg gunner basically impossible (without VF)

[stone birch]

I just watched a veteran try to solo run to the exfil on a prismata crystal raid, without the prismata crystals.

he left his team to die instead of picking us up.

[tame lichen]

valid

[stone birch]

never have I seen a gamer so aggressively snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[junior grail]

Has he not played Ascension Riser?

[karmic musk]

John Darktide finally got tired of carrying you three

[midnight mortar]

What level was he?

[blazing horizon]

You called?

Its always darkest, right before the tide

[zealous wyvern]

JOHN DARKTIDE

[stark hollow]

maybe the dark was the tide we made along the way

[zealous wyvern]

the dark was the tide of friends we lost along the way

service demands sacrifice

sacrifice begets emptiness

emptiness yearns for purpose

[stark hollow]

john darktide should be an npc aboard the ship

[copper fractal]

hhhh

[zealous wyvern]

there should be an NPC called "John"

just "john"

[stark hollow]

and if you have 1 bot slot itll always be filled by him

or at least you can set it

to always be him

[stark hollow]

what gun

show

oh wait

[desert hawk]

looks like plasma

[blazing horizon]

Plasma I imagine

[stark hollow]

its the plasma

[copper fractal]

Plasma

[stark hollow]

eh its fine ammo is the dumpstat

how much ammo does it have tho im curious

[copper fractal]

Still mildly annoying

[stark hollow]

actually charge rate 59 is kinda shite

according to the chart

[copper fractal]

Since I was looking for something to just have fun with lol

[stark hollow]

could you show the ammo count? im really curious

[copper fractal]

81/81

Lmao

[stark hollow]

oh god

[thick charm]

Salvagable?

[stark hollow]

thats horrid

[copper fractal]

That’s 9 charged shots xD

[stark hollow]

imo no, unless you dont really care about perks

id just feed it to hardon

[copper fractal]

Take the infernus off

Coz funny

thats better

[stark hollow]

gotta collect all the blessings

[stark hollow]

ooh very nice4

[copper fractal]

the shark giveth and the shark taketh

[stark hollow]

swap glory for gets hot and reload for elite/unyielding and youre golden

75% charge rate is kinda poopoo but watyougonnadoaboutit amirite

[copper fractal]

i mean

it only goes up to 80

[stark hollow]

check pinned for cahrt

chart

charge rate affects damage

[copper fractal]

and i dont plan on fully charging the thing every time so i dont quite care

[stark hollow]

there is specific charge rates

[tall torrent]

It’s over

[stark hollow]

plasma gun is now a left click spam

if you get a 73% charge rate one then somehow thats the perfect charge rate

idk how

idk why

[copper fractal]

shrugs

heres the thing

oh ffs all my talent builds got deleted

[stark hollow]

oh is it your first time on vet since carnival update

[copper fractal]

there is a point where it kinda just doesnt matter anymore because youre nuking everythiing either way

[copper fractal]

yeah i dont care for vet in the slightes

[stark hollow]

ah

[copper fractal]

i like all the other 3 but vet to me is just boring

[stark hollow]

but for some guns a little diff in stats changes it from 2-3 shot kill to 1 shot kill

[sage agate]

damn it feels good to be a veteran

[copper fractal]

if i wanted to have the shooter gameplay the vet gives me ill just play 2042 lol

[stark hollow]

i like em all

[versed merlin]

what blessing pair with brutal momentum on combat axe?

[sage agate]

should i run deadshot for crit on plasma or +30% weakspot dmg?

[serene sage]

is MGIa or MGIV better right now?

[sage agate]

i've never found a use for IV

Ia is real good tho

[serene sage]

okay ill find a good Ia then

[marsh condor]

Wait.

Wait a bloody minute.

...imagine if there's a Volley Lasgun.

[gilded dock]

best weapons/ build for veteran? ive been running double handed chainsword and bolt gun on my zealot and i love it, and i really enjoy using axes for my veteran but i cant seem to find a ranged weapon that i dig

[mystic belfry]

What kind of ranged weapons do you like the most generally

[junior grail]

Try chainsword and plasma

You can go for Weapon Specialist if you still want a melee build

[tame lichen]

600k spent just to roll this shit SMH

[junior grail]

Reroll mod?

[tame lichen]

Penetration is shit

[junior grail]

Yea its not even 69

Not nic3

[tame lichen]

brunt deserves to be a servitor for this

[nocturne mulch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ab3f5bb-24a8-41ce-81f1-12dda6e8ade4/vet-bayonet?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

My bayonet build. 1 hits all specials, even mutants.

2 hits ragers

1 hits all normal enemies

3 hits bulwarks/reapers

[junior grail]

No Respite affects melee?

[gusty bison]

Wait wait

Carapace on a helbore 2?

Wha

[nocturne mulch]

Dunno, I just put whatever blessings on it. Doesnt really matter

Yeah carapace to kill crushers faster

And maulers

[gusty bison]

Hel 2 usually wants unarmored. Unless u plan on never shooting with that gun xD

[nocturne mulch]

Flak no point as you dont get any breakpoints

[junior grail]

He's goin melee helbore, so goin a lil crazy

[nocturne mulch]

Yup

100% melee

[gusty bison]

Oh fair

Pray u dont run into a dreg gunner wall xD

[nocturne mulch]

I destroy them

[junior grail]

In melee?

[nocturne mulch]

Yes

[mystic belfry]

So because zealots are unhelpful, what heavy sword do y'all think is better? :v

[junior grail]

shank shank shank

[nocturne mulch]

When you 1 hit them its fun

[junior grail]

Most say 9, I prefer 6

[mystic belfry]

I've been using the half-decent six I have, haven't actually tried a 9

[gusty bison]

9 has a moveset more conducive to mindless horde clearing

[junior grail]

9 goes into a horizontal heavy loop thats kinda fun

Also heavy sword 9 is the prettiest in base form haha

[mystic belfry]

Ah, I've been liking the heavy attacks for single enemies

[nocturne mulch]

Its really funny against the assassination bosses

[junior grail]

9 starts with vertical heavy

So the trick is heavy special heavy special loop

[nocturne mulch]

You can destroy their shield insanely quick, and 1 weakspot hit does 1/4 of their health bar xD

[mystic belfry]

Wasn't seeing much issue with light spam to horde clear

[junior grail]

Bayonet?

[nocturne mulch]

Yeah

[mystic belfry]

🤔 I should try bayonet zealot

[junior grail]

Yea thats why I stuck with 6, light felt good enough for me

[gusty bison]

U cant

[hollow turtle]

wth was this psyker carrying. I saw assail, but I didn't get a chance to see what his weapons were. I didn't see staff effects.

[mystic belfry]

Didn't even check tbh

[junior grail]

Dammit now you have me interested

[gusty bison]

Bayo is on Helbore

Which is vet only

[mystic belfry]

Ye you right

[gusty bison]

Bayo atm is just busted due to a series of unintended interactions

[junior grail]

Could be a gun psyker? Seeing that boss damage

[gusty bison]

I wont expect it to stick around in its current form

[gilded dock]

Eh that's my conundrum. Single handed chainsword pales in comparison tow two handed and plasma gun reminds me too much of boltgun. I'd like to do the opposite and have a melee that's good against special mobs and a gun that's good for horde clear

[mystic belfry]

Considering they nerfed grenade gauntlet melee? They are absolutely going to nerf helbore melee for sure

[gilded dock]

Running axe and autogun currently but it feels weak

[nocturne mulch]

Even without the blessing bug its still insanely strong

[gusty bison]

Theres no guns that are "good" for horde clear

[junior grail]

Nooooooooooo

[mystic belfry]

It's absolutely going to happen

[hollow turtle]

Crazy how he outdamaged 3 upgraded krak nades+several headshots.

[mystic belfry]

Bets are out on when though

[junior grail]

Only ogryn has access to those haha

[gusty bison]

Theres some that can cleae hordes in a pinch but u cant rely on them to clear hordes through the entire op

[gilded dock]

Autogun in hip.fire stance seems pretty good at it

[nocturne mulch]

Did you say that when helbore is in the chat?

[gusty bison]

And only if he gobbles ammo

[gusty bison]

Helbore isnt a gun

Moving on

[nocturne mulch]

.>

[gusty bison]

Nah it runs out of ammo too quickly

[junior grail]

Helbore is a spear thay shoots

[gusty bison]

This also runs out of ammo quickly

[nocturne mulch]

Kantrael

[gusty bison]

An ogryn that is liberal with their ranged weapon usage is gobbling up the entire ammo supply

[junior grail]

Plasma and Revolver in a straight line are horde clears... sort of

[nocturne mulch]

Fire shells destroy hordes

[gusty bison]

Ammmmmmoooo.

Kanny shotty has low ammo

You wanna use it on mixed hordes not chaff

[nocturne mulch]

I dont have any problems with if

It

Scavenger is a thing

[mystic belfry]

Kantreal with fire shots can do a massive shitton of horde damage with very little ammo spent

[gusty bison]

Scavenger doesnt refund on chaff and kanny shotty has poor ammo refund rates

[junior grail]

I once played with a team with 1 vet, he did not run scavenger.

Man I was feeling the ammo pinch

[nocturne mulch]

3 rounds is enough to wipe a horde

[gusty bison]

Thats a lotta rounds

Given u only have 60

[nocturne mulch]

Feels like you're clutching at pearls right now

[mystic belfry]

I have my melee out almost constantly tbh, i rarely run out of ammo even when there's no regen aura

[junior grail]

I asked the Vet and he replied "Oops I forgor"

[gusty bison]

Yea if ur using melee for horde clear ammo is fine

[mystic belfry]

I will sometimes start a horde with a fire shell though

[gusty bison]

Once ur using ranged as ur main horde clear is when the ammo pinch is gonna kick in

[nocturne mulch]

I can go a whole auric without taking ammo pickups while using Kantrael on hordes

[mystic belfry]

It's just free damage for basically no cost, it's one shell

[gusty bison]

Thats fair.

[mystic belfry]

But that's mostly for corridor hordes

[gusty bison]

Its still the melee mopping up, the gun just makes it a lot easier

[mystic belfry]

I won't really use a several shots unless there's some bulwurks in there

In which case, open fire

[gusty bison]

Aye bulwark busting is nice for kanny

[junior grail]

I wish Flamer would set Bulwarks on fire like the Kant shotty

[gusty bison]

Main annoyance I have with the kantrael shotgun is that i dont get 1 ammo back per special/elite killed xD

So i cant run ammo neutral vs specials

[mystic belfry]

Feels weird to be playing zealot for a bit

And honestly? I miss smokes the most.

[junior grail]

What other weapons are ammo neutral? I know Bolter is one

[mystic belfry]

It's not constant, but those situations with gunner firing squads are like, an actual issue again

[mystic belfry]

Plasma

[gusty bison]

Kantrael Lasgun. Helbore. Agripinna shotgun. The IAGs. The Vraks 7

Heck the Agri 9 is ammo neutral with a good aim

[hollow turtle]

I could make this a 550... but is it worth it based on those modifiers?.. 🤔

[gusty bison]

Its not horrible

Swap out crit damage

Crit damage on a braced auto is poopoo

[hollow turtle]

Lol saying no to 380 items is hard.

And Brunt seems to offer better.

[gusty bison]

Maybe

This one has a chance of bricking

[hollow turtle]

Very high chance.

[junior grail]

Havent heard of Agri 9 in a long time lol

[gusty bison]

Its just well

Overshadowed

[cinder zephyr]

what blessings you want on a Graia Mk8?

[rigid pond]

So how do you guys feel when you play with us Taunt Ogryns? Do you feel safer at all? Sometimes I feel like the taunt mechanic bugs out and still has enemies hit teammates.

[cinder zephyr]

personally, there are points where its a bitch to shoot around, other times its awesome. so 50/50 for me

[hollow turtle]

<Apply blue glowing head logic here>

[abstract moth]

Would like to see a good stealth build, since they updated the system. Was thinking of going with knife and helbore but guns aren't mandatory I'd just appreciate if you could show the skill tree build

[midnight mortar]

It's ok I guess? Usually I'm either in the middle of already meleeing the enemies that are suddenly taunted or I was standing away from them to begin with trying to focus down shooters and gunners.

[still flare]

Ye that's why I run survivalist 100% of the time. All it takes is 1-2 ammo hungry guns in QP, or some ammo hog takes a big ammo, and now we're rationing like starving children the rest of the mission

[lone lake]

anyone know if the Kreig skin pack will come back? just started palying a veteran and I wanted it so bad

[cinder zephyr]

i imagine it will.

probably a big ticket seller

[terse shell]

survivalist makes me feel like im never out of ammo tbh

could have a gun out for 90% of the mission and barely make it red

[fleet cloud]

plan on swapping dumdum for the fire dmg one when i can, but this should be fine for now

[urban adder]

whats meta on las pistol? ghost and what else?

what about perks

[fleet cloud]

can never go wrong with flak/maniac

but since las, you may consider +crit chance if you use ammo efficency from left tree

[lament kite]

has anyone noticed the weapon base stats offered by melk or requisition suddenly lower than they used to be?
i was buying a 350-370 range a week or so ago, and now its a 300-350 range

[thick charm]

What to do here? Swap onslaught to 4, Unarmored for Flak?

[fleet cloud]

swap unarmored for flak for sure

[unreal bone]

Damn this would be a great plasma gun if Fatshark would fix plasma guns.

:l

[fleet cloud]

can swap onslaught for higher ranked onslaught, or the fire dmg on crit one

[thick charm]

What's wrong eith them?

[unreal bone]

Charge rate affects damage

too low you lose damage too high you lose damage

73% charge rate is the best charge rate for plasma guns.

[thick charm]

what

[unreal bone]

Exactly

[thick charm]

like.. how

[unreal bone]

Darktide spaghetti code

There is a chart pinned in this channel

[stark hollow]

what is bolter perks again

[unreal bone]

that shows all of the charge rate %s

[stark hollow]

maniac and unyielding or flaniac

[thick charm]

So, I should wait on this one? xD

[unreal bone]

I mean we have no ETA on when it'll be fixed.

Or if Fatshark even plans to fix it.

[stark hollow]

plasma no need flak

[unreal bone]

He's not asking about the perks he's asking if it's worth investing in with the plasma gun bug

[stark hollow]

what is the bug anyway

charge rate thing?

[unreal bone]

@stark hollow

[stark hollow]

honestly the % arent the worst

[robust mesa]

charge rate

[stark hollow]

gets hot and blaze away still work well

[robust mesa]

huh

what

[stark hollow]

check pinned

[unreal bone]

Yeah but if you get the blessing on your plasma gun that increases charge rate.

You're fked

[stark hollow]

like volatile?

[unreal bone]

You have to replace Volatile yes

[umbral scaffold]

Its Sweden fart sharts on their mandatory 6 month holiday vacation

We’ll be lucky to see another hotfix

[unreal bone]

We're getting free cosmetics in 4 days.

So that's nice atleast.

I can stop playing veteran for good when it comes out.

[stark hollow]

wonder how they gonna give it

is it just gonna appear in our inventories

[unreal bone]

It's just gonna appear in our inventories.

[umbral scaffold]

I feel like a Star Wars fan constantly ragging on this game and the devs even if I love both

[unreal bone]

I am a Star Wars fan.

[umbral scaffold]

No one hates Star Wars more than a Star Wars fan

[stark hollow]

so those who started after 24th nov have to buy it on steam or smth?

or will it now come free with imp edition

[unreal bone]

You have to have played Darktide before the 17th

[stark hollow]

oh thought it was 24th

eh no matter i played since beta anyway

[umbral scaffold]

Beta players are the irl equivalent to auric level operatives

If someone’s still rocking that beta helmet, they are deadly.

[stark hollow]

the 🅱️ empror helm

i make enemy shit pant

[unreal bone]

Thanks!

[stark hollow]

gotta rock the beta meta also

boltgun and psword

and magdump crusher packs

[umbral scaffold]

Such an old meta

[stark hollow]

and hordes

[umbral scaffold]

I remember those days

[unreal bone]

I use Plasma Gun and Kantrael srry.

I forget which Kantrael model I'm using.

[umbral scaffold]

I didn’t like psword when that was the meta but now I love it

[stark hollow]

i mean its the meta now as well

got nerfed and then made a comeback