veteran-class

[frank ether]

Its quite good, nothing overpowered about it

[grave cargo]

Sunder cleaves through bulwarks and crushers

BM kills 30 things per swing

[gritty mirage]

well its preference at the end, my chainswords designed for mook crowd control

[grave cargo]

Take your pick I guess lmfao

[lilac eagle]

I think my ps is like... headtaker and cleave

[nimble sentinel]

it has the same levels of fun as playing skyrim

[frank ether]

with the amount of attack speed veteran gets d.claw chews through hordes just as good if not safer with less hassle

[lilac eagle]

Really haven't grinded for a good one yet

[junior needle]

power sword doesn't have headtaker

[south prairie]

I use a shovel, dclaw, a knife, or an axe

[grave cargo]

D claw will do horde clear about as well but it won't handle armor half as well

[lilac eagle]

It's stacking something

[junior needle]

slaughterer?

[frank ether]

it will, parry.

[grave cargo]

Especially not multiple target armor the way PS does

[lilac eagle]

Probably

[grave cargo]

Laughs in killing 12 crushers at a time

[lilac eagle]

I'm home in like, 10 minutes so I can have a lookie

[grave cargo]

I like DC don't get me wrong

It's good

Balanced even

[gritty mirage]

parry is so interesting to observe on other players

[grave cargo]

The issue is Powersword isn't really balanced

[frank ether]

yeah and psword will be killing them.....

one by one.

[grave cargo]

It's dogwater if you don't turn it on

No it won't lmfao

Run Sunder

You can cleave through crushers

[frank ether]

then you're not running BM

your cleave is worse

[grave cargo]

No it's about the same

[gritty mirage]

[grave cargo]

Little worse, still outdoes a DC substantially

[lilac eagle]

Power up, sweeping heavy, backdodge, repeat.

[grave cargo]

BM = Sunder > the rest

[frank ether]

BM is what elevates psword to where it is

[grave cargo]

No not really

[gritty mirage]

🍿

[grave cargo]

The energized attacks are better

[frank ether]

Sunder has some funny interactions against bulwarks tho

thats about it

[grave cargo]

The regular attacks are worse

[junior needle]

You can hit basically everything in a mixed horde with sunder

Whereas a crushers stops you without

[grave cargo]

So you go PS6 and do light light and spam that and make entire hordes evaporate because BM effectively gives you infinite cleave on hordes again

[frank ether]

yes

cause its somewhat buggy

[grave cargo]

Sunder has technically limited cleave but you can just

[frank ether]

and your attacks dont stop

[grave cargo]

Go through carapace now

[frank ether]

even when you hit a bulwark

it keeps cleaving for some reason

[cloud current]

anybody notices an annoying jerk motion in the Boltgun ironsights? seems to happen in the recovery time after shooting, it's like an animation glitch that makes it annoying to aim followup shots since it just snaps the reticle away

[grave cargo]

And BM still annihiates crushers, it's really just bulwarks where BM falls short

But

You have so much better cleave than Sunder on the whole that it kinda balances out

Just run a plasma and BM powersword and you're golden

We named character gear now

[muted knot]

Not that hot tbh, it may be the best but I'm not breaking my immersion by repeatedly hittin the on button on that thing

[frank ether]

yes its frustrating with deadshot bolter

[nimble sentinel]

continuing my shit take: psword is to melee weapons what the king tiger is to tanks

[grave cargo]

Just use the mod to give you ADS dot sites

[nimble sentinel]

you think it's powerful, it's the first thing you think of when you think of powerful

[grave cargo]

An overpriced piece of shit that runs out of steam instantly?

Not really what PS is

PS is more like

[nimble sentinel]

it has all the trappings of power to it

[grave cargo]

Overpowered

[nimble sentinel]

but it still got its ass handed to it by the sherman

[grave cargo]

What no

The strategy for dealing with heavy tank brigades was to just go around it

The Sherman was no match for a 1 on 1 with a KT thankfully the Germans only had about 300 of the things and they kept running out of fuel

[south prairie]

Nah it is, psword is shit and yall are shit for maining it
-this message is sponsored by knoife enjoyers

[grave cargo]

So the strat was to literally just go around them and pound the area with artillery

[latent parcel]

psword and plasma are good until u have to move. then ur screwed

[autumn perch]

CORRALLING TARGET

[nimble sentinel]

stealing and paraphrasing from a drunk shitposting scottish historian:

A sherman gets disabled, the crew survives, walks back to the depot, grabs another sherman, gets 5 other shermans to go with it, and nail the bastard in the tiger in the woods

Tiger goes down, crew goes to the depot, finds out there will never be another tiger for them, are now infantry

[grave cargo]

Yeah basically

[nimble sentinel]

I like my dclaw and shovel

[grave cargo]

But also not really because that tiger would have been annihilated by artillery anyways

After 44 the US basically just stopped actually fighting small scale engagements

[south prairie]

To be fair both west and east allies have ridiculous amount of tanks by mid war

[grave cargo]

Oh we've taken some small arms fire from that ridgeline

[lilac eagle]

Honestly I'm completely unsurprised the military nerds are Vet mains

[nimble sentinel]

you're goddamn right they do

[grave cargo]

Let's level the entire thing with our heavy weapons company

[nimble sentinel]

(this analogy is beginning to fail)

[grave cargo]

Oh someone said their might have been a tank in this village

Time to call for some 155's to turn that place into a parking lot

Very much a case of don't fight what you can blow up from 40 miles away instead

[muted knot]

Man the king tiger just looks so good tho

[nimble sentinel]

case in point: I hate psword, sure the damage is nice but everything else about it is icky, I find more use and utility from parry and bonk

[grave cargo]

I prefer chainsword

But PS is disgustingly optimal

[nimble sentinel]

chainsword is also good

[grave cargo]

Again

Just in a different way

[muted knot]

Finally someone is talking sense

[nimble sentinel]

I dodge too much to make use of the psword

[grave cargo]

Shovel works pretty good for rending builds

[south prairie]

Yea knife and shovel are my main melee now

[muted knot]

What is optimal chains word build by the way ?

[grave cargo]

Crit shred and more crit

[south prairie]

But axe is also fast approaching

[muted knot]

Huh really ? I've been running with extra damage on hitting 3x and extra cleave on hitting 3x

[nimble sentinel]

damn...

[grave cargo]

No Im joking lmao

Optimal is actually wrath rampage

[muted knot]

I think that's what I have ? Unsure about wrath

Definitely rampage

[grave cargo]

Now that its base stats aren't fucking balls you don't need to critfish like it's patch 7

However

[latent parcel]

i think rev it up is key on a chainsword.

[grave cargo]

Old habits die hard and I like my floating 50% crit chance

[muted knot]

I don't think it's that good

Like it's nice

[grave cargo]

Rev it up is alright if you run infiltrate

I am speed

[nimble sentinel]

imho no need to come to the melee, it will come to you

I am not speed, I am the headclicker

clicker of the heads

good fkin luck getting in melee range to me

[slim shard]

What do you think? Gud rifle? Should I change anything?

[nimble sentinel]

try it with a hole between your eyes

[muted knot]

I am the guy just spamming his plasma down a corridor filled with enemy sludge

[grave cargo]

Nah rev it up is really good, it's just for a specific playstyle

If you don't run infilrate there's no reason to run it besides fun

[muted knot]

I never liked infiltrate tbh

[grave cargo]

If you do run infiltrate it lets you fucking zoom across the map

It's actually insane how you can basically outrun the map with it

[nimble sentinel]

but I already laugh at the zealots who do this, inevitably die, and ragequit

[muted knot]

I really need to try the invis zealot for clutching purposes

Had one on my team the other day running chains word with like a billion attacks per second

[frank ether]

do it more like this

[muted knot]

Absolute madlad solo clutched the game for us on carnivals last area

[lilac eagle]

I won't lie. When my D&D game is like, 15 - 20 minutes from starting I'll hop in a darktide game and purposely play like a tit

So when I die I can just alt-f4 and join the session

[shell berry]

Does stability matter on the laspistol? I never use it.

[gritty mirage]

stability isnt that important

[twin sail]

is this salvagable or trash xd

[cloud current]

this shit is so annoying wtf

[gritty mirage]

hmmm not exactly encouraging, hadron did you dirty @twin sail but thats crafting for you

thats why i swapped to plasma, the swaying with bolter threw me off my A game

i want to love the bolter but i chew through its ammo too fast and its less accurate than plasma, and it cant shoot behind cover like plasma can lol.

its unloading ability in cqc is unparalleled though

[grave cargo]

Those perks are usable

I'd sawp the blessings, they matter more

[twin sail]

kk, yeah i was gonna do the cleave on hit & bleed stacks on special

[grave cargo]

I'd just go wrath rampage

[frank ether]

it is what it is

I use crosshair to aim

[grave cargo]

Bleeding isn't really amazing

[frank ether]

there is a mod that adds crosshair to ads

[grave cargo]

Only thing that's gonna get you value for is maulers and bosses

Sort of crushers but they take so much less bleed damage now

[twin sail]

i have the max versions of Bloodletter tho ;_;

[gritty mirage]

there are mods for sure that change the experience entirely.

with certain sights it makes some things way easier to manage.

[muted knot]

Why wrath instead of savage sweap ?

[grave cargo]

It's actually better, basically

[muted knot]

How so ?

[grave cargo]

It'll help when you can't cleave as well, such as on ragers

The buff lasts longer but yeah, in those cases where you can't activate savage sweep, wrath gets there, and the minor initial damage loss is actually not really anything

[muted knot]

If there's less than 3 enemy's for you to hit, why not just use the rev up ?

[grave cargo]

So it gives you more cleave when you need it, and the same cleave when you were already overcleaving

[muted knot]

Oh I see

It's more about the whole range not just the top end

[grave cargo]

It's been that way since launch really

It's just before you needed to do a heavy to get savage sweep going since your starting cleave was like

2

And wrath was weaker then

Now that it has usable base stats and wrath is buffed, it's better

[muted knot]

The more I read these channels the more aware I am of how little I know about this game

I just opt for heavys most of the time

[spare mantle]

What are the best melee weapons for Vet? Having trouble deciding what to run. Everything kinda feels meh.

[grave cargo]

Chainsword is a nice middle of the road weapon, it's kind of like a sidegrade to devil claws if anything

[spare mantle]

Also which version of each type is the best? Like attack animation wise

[muted knot]

Powersword declaw and chainsword imo

[sharp ember]

S: Power Sword, Combat Axe
A: Devil Claw, Chainsword
B: the rest
D: chainaxe

[spare mantle]

Guess I'll give Rashaad a chance next

[muted knot]

I personally am not a huge fan of the axes but they do some work

Chainaxes just don't feel good to use imo

[sharp ember]

my gripe with chainaxe is that chainsword does the same thing while better vs hordes

[grave cargo]

Going ranged chainaxe is only advisable if you have a team that you trust

aka not randos

Because if you have to clutch with ranged perks with a chainaxe

luh

mao

[muted knot]

(what's elites again ? I get confused with elites and specials and maniacs and all that)

[grave cargo]

Gunners, maulers, crushers

ragers

[sharp ember]

with bloodletter slapped on my chainsword, I'm only really worried about crushers if we're in a situation where we can get away with revving

very interesting that thunderous works on VoC though

[grave cargo]

30 ragers say hi

[spare mantle]

Another question: What's an acceptable amount of modifiers? I usually chuck everything below 370 right in the bin unless it's got some insane 80-80-80-80-40 mix

[muted knot]

I really wanna like the knife but I just prefer horde clear melees

[grave cargo]

Frankly, any 300+ weapon is usable if it has the right distribution

The difference between min and max isn't often that important

Very weapon dependent

Often the most important stat isn't even damage, but stopping power

[meager prism]

What do you guys like to put on curios for vet?
I don't mean the major blessings, but the minor perks, like gunner resist or revive speed or whatever
I'm sure many people are fans of gunner resist, but there's three slots and two modifications you can make, so what goes in the rest?

[grave cargo]

I run 3 health and 20% gunner and sniper res personally, but it's kinda up to you and your skill level

[muted knot]

I like Rez speed and sprint efficiency

[grave cargo]

I can't recommend toughness stacking as vet, though, he's not good at actually recovering it

[umbral scaffold]

Damn those lucius pattern lasguns are hard to master

[grave cargo]

Better to stack health if you get in a shitty situation

[meager prism]

makes sense
I feel like I'm underestimating sprint efficiency lol
block eff makes a lot of sense to me though

[grave cargo]

How

Aside from ult, you have garbo toughness regen in combat

If you're getting them

I'm talking a SHTF scenario

[ancient path]

why this ogryn do 137.5k damage in my match with the kickback lol.

[grave cargo]

If you're in a situation where you're farming elites you probably would be fine without any toughness regen at all

Psyker and Ogryn

Psyker has the most insane toughness regen of any of the classes he just doesn't have any damage reduction

[abstract stream]

Ogryn has good thp

Psyker also never has to be in a situation where there's 10 ragers

so

moot argument to me

[grave cargo]

I mean neither can vet if everyone is hitting him

[meager prism]

psyker can CC 30 ragers so whatever

[grave cargo]

Vet would just die from taking 10 rager hits at a time ebcause you'd get staggered

Psyker regens toughness for existing and is probably one of the safer characters for dealing with mass ragers since his staves have such ridiculous stagger power

Ogryn can just knock them over too

[meager prism]

kind of ironic given how fragile they are otherwise

[muted knot]

Can anyone explain this chart to me ?

[grave cargo]

No class can just sit there and trade blows with mass ragers, but each class can deal with them somewhat differently, ogryn would probably be the worst off of the 4 classes

[glacial peak]

[grave cargo]

I need to see this mystical facetank veteran

[muted knot]

Oh did I not turn off the ping ?

I'm so sorry

[meager prism]

in this video you only fight one at a time so I mean
yeah terrain kinda changes the entire equation

[grave cargo]

You're tanking like one a time

I can do the same thing with an Illisi

[glacial peak]

oh yeah theres a bug where the optimal charge rate on plasma gun is 73 because of really really cursed tic rate reasons. the chart is there to show you how much damage your losing. 74 will actually lose you break points because its basically 5% damage

[muted knot]

I don't understand the rightmost file

DMG/list

[meager prism]

tickrate causing DPS reduction
that's pretty funny ngl

[cloud current]

crosshairRemap?

[grave cargo]

Get slapped with firebombs and have your ult down then tell me vet has good toughness regen

[glacial peak]

damage list is the listed damage on the weapon card

[grave cargo]

I literally just did something similar earlier today with my Psyker

He regens 30% toughness every time I use my illisi on a single dude

[flint lake]

Use 50% move speed buff and shout

[muted knot]

So what is the takeaway from this graph ? Stay at around 74 ?

[flint lake]

Instant full with over sheild

[glacial peak]

71-73 good 80 is ok

74-79 pretty fucking bad

74 is actually a 5% damage node worth of damage loss

[grave cargo]

Psyker regens toughness for
Generating peril
Killing with warp attacks
Venting peril
Scoring a critical hit
And some other thing I'm forgetting he's the only character who can just go from 0% toughness to 100% with a single attack

I'd say it's dumb but you're basically always taking full damage so you're super glass cannony

If you're not killing you're dying

[stuck bridge]

In reality you just want to use w%e plasma you have and not re roll them 100k times until you get one with 1% more damage sometimes

[meager prism]

when you say solo do you mean like true solo or what

[grave cargo]

I mean Psyker sorta has constant regen if you take peril generation

[meager prism]

gotcha

[grave cargo]

Or vent

Since you're gonna be doing those two things a lot

[sand oracle]

Walks into Darktide chat for the first time in like a week, sees arbitrary hot takes that are too stupid to bother wasting energy on, departs.

[muted knot]

How does this translate to breakpoints tho ? Like most of the time things die when I shoot them in the head unless it's like a crusher

[muted knot]

Based

[grave cargo]

I cannot fucking get disrupt destiny to work

It either floods me with enemies that my team then kills

or it doesn't generate any enemies

[muted knot]

Okay good I was worried haha

[grave cargo]

It looks like it would be really cool but even on maelstrom I'm running around with 4 stacks most of the time

Do you run the 30s duration or the 30 stacks

I was trying the 30 stacks and I just couldn't get enough enemies to exist to break more than like

10

[proper gust]

is this thing good? I forgot to check melk on my vet the whole day

[glacial peak]

I know that there are brake points that depend on range 5% damage nodes for like shotgunners I think so it’s relevant but it depends on the other rolls of course

[grave cargo]

I don't even use charged shots most of the time

Interesting.

[glacial peak]

Yeah just adjust in meat grinder till you kill enough things to be happy with it

[grave cargo]

Is this a new bug?

[glacial peak]

The chart is mostly there to be extremely cursed knowledge

[glacial peak]

Nah it been here pre patch 13 maybe even since launch

[grave cargo]

Mine is 69%

[meager prism]

nice

[grave cargo]

So I suppose nothing new for me

[glacial peak]

Nice

[stuck bridge]

I've been running one with 34% charge rate xd

[grave cargo]

Yeah ok so, wasn't sure if you were telling me my plasma got bricked by a patch lol

[flint lake]

Easy backline support plasma build with good toughness regen

[glacial peak]

No just bricked since the start

[grave cargo]

I've been enjoying it since the buff even though I suppose I'm losing like 30 damage on it

[meager prism]

I've got slaughterer and brutal momentum on a power sword, which one should I swap for power cycler

[junior grail]

Feel like getting some Mini Ritz all of a sudden

[flint lake]

Just use Glory Hunter and Blaze Away

[grave cargo]

Slaughterer

[glacial peak]

Keep bm

[muted knot]

I am fucking dumb, I thought we were talking about the heat meter on the plasma gun

So sorry for pinging you about that haha

[grave cargo]

lol

[glacial peak]

Oh lmao

[weary acorn]

question for yall, do born leader and focus target stack?

[muted knot]

This nightshift is kicking my ass big time

Thanks for being helpful tho

[grave cargo]

Neither I go weapon specialist

[muted knot]

Real ones do

How important are the blessings on plasma guns ?

[grave cargo]

That keystone fixes most of my issues with Vet's toughness

[junior grail]

Not as importants as its stats

[grave cargo]

As well as makes my brauto into a minigun

[stuck bridge]

Not important. Only like 5 options and none are must haves

[flint lake]

Born leader is shit so it don’t matter

[muted knot]

Huh i really don't know shit about fuck in this game

[grave cargo]

I just love the RoF boost

[tardy wharf]

Hey question for the homies here, what would be some things to look out for on a recon lasgun?

[grave cargo]

It gives the brauto 8 a better RoF than the brauto 2

[stuck bridge]

Ya but they don't change the weapon like BM or handcannon like shit

[grave cargo]

Absolutely hoses down anything you point it at short of crushers

[muted knot]

That it's called columnus autogun

[tardy wharf]

I... Huh you know what. I'll give it a shot

[grave cargo]

I don't see many recon lasguns anymore

[flint lake]

Recon is bad but infernus and Dum Dum are Bis blessings

[muted knot]

Recon got kind of shafted imo

[midnight mortar]

Well you want to be careful of the Recon lasguns since they're going to give you a >8 second TTK on mutants among other things.

[grave cargo]

Did they get nerfed again

or just by the effect of the re-arranging of the vet tree

[flint lake]

Nerf

[tardy wharf]

I just love the recon lasgun because I feel like the basic guardsmen homie

[stuck bridge]

Recon with marksman keystone is low key alright

[grave cargo]

Marksman is a stinky doo doo smelly keystone

[junior grail]

Hope Recon gets buffed of sorts, I don't mind if its just ammo boost

[muted knot]

Really? for me the single fire lasguns do that

[midnight mortar]

That is an admirable stance to have, but Accatran Recons were typically standard issue for Elysian drop troops. The Kantrael Lasguns are the basic guardsmen lasrifles.

[untold mulch]

Recon II is canon Guardsman Experience

All flair no kills

[tardy wharf]

Ahhhhhhhhhh

Thank you for the lore drop there, actually needed that

[junior grail]

Elysian Droptroops aint basic, they be based

[ancient path]

ive memed enough with smokes and can say that smokes definitely suck 80% of the time

[flint lake]

Bis with Revolver deletes everything

[ancient path]

the other 20% is kinda cool

[midnight mortar]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Elysian_Drop_Troops

[tardy wharf]

I'm still trying to actually find all my guardsmen lore and failing miserably

[untold mulch]

Love Elysians

[stuck bridge]

Bayonet only build is peak guardsman

[ancient path]

but its like "ive blinded guns" vs just .. idk, killing them

[grave cargo]

stinky doo doo

[untold mulch]

Love DropTroopers

[muted knot]

So for plasmagun, what basestats are the most important?

[grave cargo]

I hate marksman because it's unfun to use

[midnight mortar]

Just browse the Lexicanum up there.

[grave cargo]

Not because it's bad

[untold mulch]

fr

[tardy wharf]

Will do, thanks homie. Legend

Wish we had a bolt pistol variant

[grave cargo]

Basically the same reason I don't care for empowered psionics

[untold mulch]

To me it feels like they first added the finesse damage mechanic, and then worked backwards to not make it OP and a must have

[muted knot]

Amen

[grave cargo]

Well I guess that's different, sorta

[tardy wharf]

Or hear me out

[midnight mortar]

Make sure your charge rate is at 73%. Otherwise you get this mess because Fatshark performed tech heresy when coding the plasma gun.

[tardy wharf]

Hotshot lasgun / Las sniper

Give

Please

[untold mulch]

Hotshot lasgun is my dream

[junior grail]

1st impression of Imperial Guard
"Standard soldiers"

2nd impression
"Every single possible soldier archetype throughout the history and cultures"

[midnight mortar]

Believe me. I've been waiting for a Hotshot since the beta.

[muted knot]

Yeah we got that far I'm just wondering if there are more and less important stats on it outside of chargerate

[untold mulch]

Guard is the best faction for Homebrew

Almost anything makes sense in lore

[muted knot]

It'll come with rattling class

[junior grail]

I want Longlas so bad

[tardy wharf]

Huh, at this point I might as well buy a guardsmen regiment and start painting

Ima make some british ass guardsmen

[untold mulch]

Bankruptcy speedrun

[midnight mortar]

Yeah, along with the Emperor himself patting me on the shoulder whenever I kill 8 specials in the span of 4 seconds.

[junior grail]

I really hope upcoming update doesnt just drop weapons cosmetics or something

[tardy wharf]

It can't be that expensive... right?

Right?

[junior grail]

You could look into Praetorians

[tardy wharf]

HOLY SHIT

[untold mulch]

idk if this classifies

[tardy wharf]

YO

[muted knot]

Why would you jinx us like that

[flint lake]

The revolver is the one gun I enjoy using M’sF with.

[untold mulch]

VOSTROYAN FIRST BORN

[tardy wharf]

I love it

[flint lake]

Just snap and Blam

[tardy wharf]

I LOVE IT

[muted knot]

Yeah they fuck

[tardy wharf]

Thank you

Chad

Actual legend

[junior grail]

Vostroyans be more Cossacks tho

[untold mulch]

He liked it anyways

[untold mulch]

🫡

[muted knot]

Vostroyans are definitely up there with krieg for me imo

[midnight mortar]

Maccabian Janissaries.

[untold mulch]

Always good to have more people on the Guard

[muted knot]

Janissaries don't count

[tardy wharf]

Bruh i'm learning more about guardsmen by the minute

I wonder how far the rabbit hole goes. Ill be right back

[junior grail]

Just waiting for cosmetics on these guys

[untold mulch]

Love my DropTroopers

Jumping from a perfectly good plane just to shoot the enemy at close range

[tardy wharf]

Ah, yes. Finally

Chadsmen

[junior grail]

Band of Brothers quote?

[untold mulch]

All Guardsman are Chadsmen

[midnight mortar]

To be a member of the Guard is the true test of bravery and strength.

[untold mulch]

Mostly sure yeah, barely remember it

[stray storm]

How about it vets? Worth my milk coins?

[untold mulch]

not exact quote

but the spirit

[midnight mortar]

No transhuman organs, no superhuman reflexes, just solidarity and your human capabilities.

[untold mulch]

Like as I've said before

[junior grail]

Mordian Iron Guard are an army of Rick Mays, rip

[untold mulch]

Our Veteran lorewise

To become a Veteran in the Guard?

You are basically pulling a Rambo each tuesday

[junior grail]

They could be a PDF veteran haha

[untold mulch]

To be fair

[stray storm]

The EDF deploys!

[untold mulch]

some PDF are chonk too

[midnight mortar]

@tardy wharf Here's a list of notable ones that have had some lore written about them. The Tanith 1st and Only are quite popular and have a good book series on them that's ongoing.

[flint lake]

Or in the case of the professional, ducking and letting others do the heroics.

[muted knot]

FIRST AND ONLY!!!!!

[junior grail]

Tanith are legends

[untold mulch]

Cutthroat intentionally gets into the problems
Loose Cannon accidentally gets into the problems
Professional has become good at avoiding the problems

[flint lake]

Tanith are BS

[muted knot]

Love the books man

[muted knot]

Heretic

[tardy wharf]

You

I love you

I actually love you

thank you

Emperor bless you

[flint lake]

Mkole has so much plot armor ain’t funny

[midnight mortar]

"Save the ammo! Taste the blood!"

[grand sable]

what should I slap on this

[muted knot]

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat ?

[tardy wharf]

Now time to learn about my new favourite people in 40k

[stray storm]

Professional has to put Dogleashs on Cutthroat and Loose Cannon like that one image

[tardy wharf]

And listen to what a demoncularba is

[junior grail]

So does Ciaphas Cain but we love him for it

[tardy wharf]

Wish me luck boys

[untold mulch]

I have a homebrew guard chapter for fun, in WIP stage

[junior grail]

HOLUP

[muted knot]

The gaunts ghosts novels are my favorite thing to come out of 40k, I highly recommend the audiobooks by toby Longworth

[untold mulch]

Love how flexible Guard lets players be

[untold mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-castle-wait-please-stop-please-no-please-gif-21133188

[midnight mortar]

See you can trust the Cutthroat. He's there to kill. He wants to kill. It's his job and he knows he's good at it. The Loose Cannon? He's the one that needs a leash to keep him from going AWOL. You can't trust him. Can barely expect him to do something.

[flint lake]

Cain is a joke though so there’s not meant to be any real expectation of a serious plot

[untold mulch]

I mean depends?

[stray storm]

I’m trying to homebrew a Ming dynasty inspired Astartes Chapter
It’s hard trying to research it tho 😭

[muted knot]

Love when people come in to talk down of things others enjoy

Classic Internet

[untold mulch]

At least my impression of LC is that he enjoys fighting to some level

• I always have felt his AWOL comments to be a way to mentally vent

[junior grail]

His stories are more light hearted but I wouldnt go so far as to call him a joke

[flint lake]

He’s the Emperor’s greatest clown

[midnight mortar]

He always seemed to me like the opportunistic, thief type. The Guard is just a vehicle he can use to cushion himself and disappear into the masses for while avoiding discipline.

[untold mulch]

Oof SM homebrew are a pain.

[junior grail]

That makes two of you, I guess

[untold mulch]

🤷‍♂️ I assume there is different interpretations

[flint lake]

Can’t all be lion tamers

[untold mulch]

In all my hours, LC to me has felt like he tries to act like he is opportunistic

[junior grail]

Loose Cannon seems to have highest chance of survival to me

[midnight mortar]

You mean it's an act? Put on?

[stray storm]

My headcanon
LC is denying he has trauma
Professional overcame his Trauma
And Cutthroat knows he has trauma and refuses to treat it

[midnight mortar]

He asks about salvaging the holo-statue in the Torrent.

[tardy wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-smile-pain-gif-25380532

I shouldn't of listened

[south prairie]

LC does say that they lacked a positive role model, and the savant psyker say they might be one for them

[untold mulch]

Exactly, LC feels like he is coping with anythign he can

[midnight mortar]

Do you remember the line by chance? Never heard that before.

[junior grail]

Welcome in brother hugs in trauma

[muted knot]

Don't worry the black ships are inbound on your position

[midnight mortar]

*shouldn't've

[stray storm]

Savant is pretty much the therapist of the entire strike force

[tardy wharf]

Hugs in trauma

[tardy wharf]

Oh black ships? Those are the nice ones right?

Not the ones that crash into the planet right?

[untold mulch]

Completely ludicrous, which kinda fits in the he is basically mouthing at everything just to distract himself

[junior grail]

Oh no

[muted knot]

oh no

[midnight mortar]

The Black Ships harvest the Tithe of psykers to feed to the Emperor, among other things.

[tardy wharf]

Ahhhhhh

oh

OOOOhhhhhhhh

[junior grail]

Yep

[midnight mortar]

They also gather up latent psykers, witches, etc.

[stray storm]

No silly it’s the Black Legion Fleet

[terse shell]

5k plasteel and 200k gold later

[tardy wharf]

Those are the ones with the sisters of silence right?

[muted knot]

You do not want to be near the black ships in any scenario

[terse shell]

I give up trting to get power cycler iv

[midnight mortar]

Yes.

[tardy wharf]

Okay, good

[junior grail]

Is it weird to be so nonchalant about these by now? Hahaha

[untold mulch]

Savant looks like the only mf that is mentally stable

[muted knot]

It's inquisition technically

[tardy wharf]

I don't mind sisters of silence

They may be blanks

Buuuuuuuut

I'm safe

[untold mulch]

With lore hindsight

[stray storm]

Smash

Oops

[south prairie]

Not the exact words but:
Savant: dont let me catch yall looting
LC: dont worry, you wont catch me
Savant: you never change
LC: never had to, dont have a positive role model, fancy being one?
Savant: perhaps, since you clearly need one

[tardy wharf]

NO

[untold mulch]

Blank even uncomfortable

MUCH BETTER THAN PSYKER

[junior grail]

Heart says Eurgh but PP happy

[midnight mortar]

I guess that's one way to look at it. I've rarely interacted with him, so maybe I've missed context dialogue.

[tardy wharf]

Honestly between blanks and Psykers

I'd choose blanks

Hell I'd hug a blank

[muted knot]

It's crazy how people literally thirst for anything remotely female

[stray storm]

See you can become a Rogue Trader and get both

[terse shell]

that includes men too

[tardy wharf]

Need I point at the weird elves?

[muted knot]

Unlikely tbh

[junior grail]

There's a rule for it so...

[south prairie]

And yes Savant is basically the mom of the team, zealots are zealots, ogryns also are ogryns even tho they mean well

[stray storm]

That’s me I’m the minority

[untold mulch]

Honestly I feel like dialogue is intentionally done to allow interpretations

If you want to think of him as a dog on a leash that will escape at any opportunity you are free to do so.

I perosnally have felt like he has a heart of gold hidden behind facade

[stray storm]

I feel like he really does

[tardy wharf]

Being new to this fandom is fun and scary

[untold mulch]

Fr

The blank won't suddenly become a daemon

[stray storm]

To me he’s like “Fuck it we ball”

[muted knot]

Feel like I'm on The Voice and just got praised for my message

[untold mulch]

Exactly

LC is just going with the flow

[terse shell]

blank will just give you terminal depression

[untold mulch]

and trying not to drown

[tardy wharf]

I mean

If you're in the imperium isn't everything just depression?

[muted knot]

It stacks

So

Yeah

[tardy wharf]

It...

Stacks?

STACKS?

STACKS??

[muted knot]

Like

[untold mulch]

Ehh, some planets are actually nice for some time

[tardy wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/sadly-gif-18075988

[terse shell]

as in you get so depressed you cant even get it up

[tardy wharf]

Damn

[terse shell]

people who say blank kekw

[junior grail]

Paradise Worlds are nice

[muted knot]

Yeah

[terse shell]

at least psyker you get to bang

[hybrid elk]

Hey guys thoughts on this? Its in melks rn

[tardy wharf]

Huh, paradise worlds soun nice

[terse shell]

with blank you cant do shit

[tardy wharf]

I Love me a lucius helbore

[junior grail]

Psyker head may go bang while you bang

[tardy wharf]

They are so much fun to use

[muted knot]

Until they pop your brain with a loose thought lol

[stray storm]

Ehhh

[tardy wharf]

Bayonet go BRRRRRRRRR

[untold mulch]

More like a daemonnete bangs you

[junior grail]

Shank shank shank

[hybrid elk]

I havent used them much but they seem super fun. The blessings are good at least right?

[untold mulch]

Which no thanks

[terse idol]

Cutthroat is dealing with it by abusing everyone else 😌

[south prairie]

Its all fun and games until one minute youre banging the psyker and the next minute youre banging the daemonette

[muted knot]

Now that.....

[tardy wharf]

I think those are good blessings, but the guys here know alot more

[untold mulch]

Yes

Say what you want to say

[junior grail]

Wait till a Commissar bangs you

[muted knot]

Heat me out man

[tardy wharf]

GIVE

ME

Headhsot

Bang

filthy ab-human

[stray storm]

DO I STOP?!! KARK NO!
I’M GOING IN! AND IM GOING IN HARD

[terse idol]

hol'up

[grim widget]

this thing worth snagging?

[untold mulch]

Cain was a sly dog in that aspect

[midnight mortar]

It's not perfect, but it can work until you find a better one if you don't have a better one already. Surgical and Onslaught are the blessings you'd want. Infernus is a sidegrade step down.

[hybrid elk]

I gotcha thx dude. The other stats arent amazing but I feel like its maybe worth it for Infernus 4

[tardy wharf]

io9ooooooooh

Does that stack with stealth?

[tardy wharf]

I mean hey i use a similar build on mine

[stray storm]

I haven’t tried it tbh

[tardy wharf]

So they gotta be cool

[junior grail]

Man banged a Commander, Techpriest, Inquisitor

[untold mulch]

Inquisitor, cultist(not yet at the moment) a TECHPRIESTESS

Ciaphas Cain WAA TRULY A HERO OF IMPERIUM

[muted knot]

Amen brother

[south prairie]

Lmao tbf the only thing you can do at that point is go in hard and hope the daemonette is impressed

[stray storm]

Wait he banged a Techie? How??

[untold mulch]

Fr

[hybrid elk]

Ah cool, I think I'll probably wait a bit then. Its just broootal gearing up my vet after ogryn/psyker used all my plasteel

[untold mulch]

Not all techpriest go to Hadron levels

There is significant amount of priest that keeps mostly human

[tardy wharf]

I might jump into one of the Vc's and just talk about what little lore I know and have people gib me more lore free of charge

[muted knot]

Imagine the implants.....

Imagine the possibilitys

[south prairie]

usb port crotch tattoo

[midnight mortar]

There's a section of the Adeptus Mechanicus that also consider biological lifeforms to be a form of machine in themselves. There's Explorators and Biologis out there.

[stray storm]

That’ll be a conversion to hear
“Wait, you shagged a Daeamontte so damn that it didn’t eat your soul?!”
“Yeah! Impressive isn’t it?”

[untold mulch]

She had a stool integrated in her spine if I remember correctly

Just to sit anywhere

CIAPHAS CAIN books are aweossome

[stray storm]

Oh yeah! I like those guys

[junior grail]

There's a Techpriestess he knew before she got fully augmented. He noted her servoarm was attached just above her butt.

The Inquisitor(whom he also banged) questioned how he knew that

[grim widget]

what perks/blessings should i swap out on this?

[stray storm]

They are the Perfect mix of Human and metal imo

[untold mulch]

Hero of the Imperium

[south prairie]

Commissar Ciaphas Cain gets all the ladies

[muted knot]

~~Now let's talk the real winning draw, you fuck a psykers and something nurgle comes out ~~

[untold mulch]

Ladies love the Anxiety he radiates

[stray storm]

Tbh I thought Ciaphas was like the ultimate Introvert now he’s the 40K version of Denji

He just like me fr

[tardy wharf]

Not the strangest thing i've heard

[untold mulch]

Ciaphas has a lot of Imposter Syndrome

[tardy wharf]

Ciaphas Cain...

[junior grail]

Cain just wanna drink tea in peace

[tardy wharf]

Who?

[muted knot]

Shocking

[terse idol]

Legendary Commisar

[untold mulch]

But he is a good lad

[muted knot]

Ciaphas Cain from the so named novel series

[terse idol]

https://youtu.be/oRozBAIbaG4?si=HbxX1Rp_muDmE9eb

[muted knot]

Man who keeps getting lucky basically

[tardy wharf]

Ima watch it

[untold mulch]

Ciaphas Cain is peak 40k

Action, wtf, and grim comedy

[terse idol]

[stray storm]

The man just won’t die

[untold mulch]

Also

[junior grail]

Imo Ciaphas Cain stories are the easiest to get into, good mix of adventure and lightheartedness alongside the grimdark

[untold mulch]

Shotout

To my homie

[muted knot]

I'd love to see what happens if he and gaunt meet

[untold mulch]

The man

The myth

The mess that can be smelled a mile away

Jurgen "I melta SM for fun"

[junior grail]

God Forbid if Cain met Yarrick

[untold mulch]

[stray storm]

“OMG GAUNT IM UR BIGGEST FAN!!!”
“Who are you exactly?”

[junior grail]

Jurgen best wingman

[south prairie]

Probably that Joe Rogan freaking out meme of seeing stuff falling in Cain's favor

[terse idol]

Ciaphas Cain was most likely the only guy in the 40k universe to die of old age

So yeah, he's a pretty big deal

[untold mulch]

Wdym

He still alive

Reports say so

[junior grail]

slaps COLONEL COMMISSAR Gaunt

[untold mulch]

He still in active duty

You never know with his rotten luck

[terse idol]

[stray storm]

Cain proceeds to roll up into a ball and cry

[terse idol]

He's in his grave but still active duty

[tardy wharf]

This guy...Is a chad from what i've heard so far. Im buying the audiobooks, time for my wallet to die

[terse idol]

[junior grail]

Cain funnily met a Slaaneshi daemon and was horrified

[terse idol]

Also yeah, like alot of people have said he likely has major imposter syndrome

Especially that animation which touches on it

[junior grail]

Actually worth, I admit

[untold mulch]

Ciaphas is so good

[tardy wharf]

Slaaneshi deamons... I may not know alot but atleast I know that slaanesh is not the way for me to go. weird space lady wants to steal my dignity and turn me into a over glorified pin-kink-cushion

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[stray storm]

More like a didlio but yeah

[tardy wharf]

Mom pick me up i'm scared

[muted knot]

Im gonna start the Cain books once I'm done with ravenor

[untold mulch]

Also that Slaneeshi cultist really was hunting for him

So having your crazy ex as a DAEMON aint gonna be a good day

[junior grail]

Ciaphas Cain, Eisenhorn and Gaunt Ghosts are good 40k entries

[muted knot]

Eisenhorn gets a bit funky after the first one but still is very very good imo

[stray storm]

Funny enough Cadia Stands was my first 40K I’ve ever read

[muted knot]

Same

[untold mulch]

I wonder if Jurgen died of old age too

[stray storm]

sniffles
Cadia Stands 😭✊

[untold mulch]

I hope so

[old carbon]

Everything I’ve heard about eisenhorn is goofy af

[muted knot]

Damn right it does

[untold mulch]

Jurgen deserved good retirement days

[junior grail]

I'm sure Inquisitor Amberley Vale made sure he had a peaceful passing too

[untold mulch]

...in pieces

[junior grail]

Ogryn picks up and throws at Mutant

[stray storm]

Actually isn’t there book that just came out that there is a big portion of Cadia left?

[untold mulch]

Fr, homie deserved it

[junior grail]

I'm sure its Chaos infested

[untold mulch]

I hope we get more stuff on blanks

The Daemon came for us on the bridge. Flesh and metal ran like water around it and the Daemon laughed. There was a moment when I was convinced I was going to die. In the next heartbeat, Danton stepped onto the bridge from the main lift. He stared at the Daemon and took a single step forward. That one step was like the world re-aligning itself, reality restored. The Daemon snarled...and then it stepped back.

[junior grail]

Like how did Big E make the Sisters of Silence

[untold mulch]

One of my favorite fuckk yeahhhh quotes of 40k

[stray storm]

Well from what I can remember there are cultists on the surface but the remnant Cadian forces live underground

[muted knot]

He didn't

[junior grail]

Hot dayum, new Cadian units?

[junior grail]

Oh? Do tell

[untold mulch]

PLANET BROKE BUT THE GUARD STILL STANDS

[stray storm]

Who knows

[terse idol]

I just need to hear the cut throat line against the cadians

Because damn

[muted knot]

Are you talking about the group itself or the blanks ?

[midnight mortar]

Against the Cadians?

He is one, though.

[stray storm]

Worth my milk coins btw?

[south prairie]

God damn that is badass

[midnight mortar]

No. Unless you don't have anything better/the resources to fish for one.

[amber portal]

can i get away with 47 finesse on the p6

ps6*

[midnight mortar]

Those perks are sad and the blessings would need to be xhNFWS.

[midnight mortar]

Definitely not ideal.

[amber portal]

everything else is high its the dump stat T_T

[midnight mortar]

Yeah 🇫 .

[untold mulch]

Fr

"And then it stepped back"

The power move

[stray storm]

I just want some damn good perks

I wasted all my plasteel 😭

[stray storm]

I love it when Inter dimensional or other worldly monsters get actually scared
Literally my favorite trope(?)

[untold mulch]

Fr

A daemon that is probably older than agriculture

just gets scared of a single blank on a battle formation

[ivory kiln]

thats the general thought of him but reading the books, he's just a very competent commissar

[midnight mortar]

Blanks are soulless. Not only inedible to demons but also poisonous.

[untold mulch]

Depends on ranking

its possible that being near a Blank

[midnight mortar]

True, caveats of course.

[untold mulch]

will cause the Daemon to either despawn

or if slain, permanently killed

[stray storm]

Ferb I know what we are gonna do today!

[untold mulch]

He is still lucky as fuck

but he also was top tier skill level

[ivory kiln]

he's got a load of experience

he's call himself unlucky in some cases

[untold mulch]

In such shitty combat zones, luck counts as part of your skill set

[serene sage]

You only get experience if you're also lucky in the beginning, when you don't

[ivory kiln]

generally wants to avoid the front line but his reputation is the joke that is his existence

he's got a strong will to live and takes precautions to make sure that the people he serves with dont hate him and knows when to retreat

luck is a part of it but it wouldnt do much for him if he werent as competent as he was

[stray storm]

Oh my Throne, an ACTUAL Competent commissar???

[untold mulch]

Tbf, is mostly stated

that if you aren't

you ain't living long

oops, I misplaced my frag grenade

[ivory kiln]

they tend to go "missing"

[untold mulch]

surely it went over the enemy line

the commisar?, an ork sniper with a rocket got him

😔

[arctic hull]

best blessings for shovel?

[serene sage]

Decimator Uncanny Strike?

Honestly idk

[stray storm]

Hey where’s your Commissar?
Over there, up there, right there, behind there, down there, and somewhere there

[ivory kiln]

usually in the books cain specifically mentions how he wants everyone to think he's useful in a warzone because everyone's got guns and a commisar that's being more of a hassle is as good as dead

"As I try to impress on the young whelps in my charge these days, it isn't the scarlet sash and the fancy hat that makes you a commissar, it's the way you wear them. The troops you serve with are never going to like you, but if you can get them to respect you that can be almost as good. Remember, you're going to spend most of your career on a battlefield with them, and they've all got guns, so making them think you're a liability is never going to be a very good idea." -Commisar Ciaphas Cain

[junior grail]

Catachans agree

[ivory kiln]

with the reputation commissars in general get of that guy who shoots you if you look at them funny it makes sense

[junior grail]

How do you think our Vets get Commissar cosmetics?

[ivory kiln]

buying them with money they find on the floor magically somehow

[stray storm]

Ok before I depart how bout this auto gun y’all?

[stark hollow]

what should i change on this bolter

[stray storm]

Surgical and + Flak perk

[stark hollow]

aight thanks

[junior grail]

For a moment there, I thought I caught a glimpse of an eight-pointed star

[stark hollow]

damnit im 6 plasteel short for changing to flak

6 PLASTEEL

[stray storm]

It’s a mod I think?

[stray storm]

I feel you

[junior grail]

Weapons modification, I believe I have it too

[stray storm]

I have like 8 weapons with good stats but I’m too afraid to use it all my dis and steel for them

[junior grail]

I don't modify too much outside of scopes, tend to forget which gun is which if I modify too much

[stark hollow]

eh

[native lotus]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[junior grail]

Yea thats real fun but my forgetful ass would struggle to remember what gun it is haha

[junior grail]

Hoping patch 15 part 2 will buff it

[native lotus]

idk why it uploaded two

[native lotus]

is there an eta for that

[junior grail]

December afaik

Expect it by end of 1st week or start of 2nd

I'm still waiting for the free cosmetics PC players were promised

[native lotus]

getting so bored with my revolver but I can't get anything at a good enough rating to switch

[junior grail]

Do a marksman focus build

[untold mulch]

I hate how dirty Recons were done

[torn tulip]

@native lotus how many tries for that gun?

[native lotus]

it was in brunt's store lmao

[junior grail]

The crit string change was the worst crime

[untold mulch]

Completely

[untold mulch]

It was so dumb

Recon is so much a victim of panic nerfing

[junior grail]

Also aren't all lasguns supposed to have reverse damage falloff?

[untold mulch]

Recons at some point were changed to be basically las smgs

VId for some reason they didnt for a long time

And then a talent combo made VId rear his head above dumpster fire

[tall torrent]

Not the recon

[untold mulch]

And Fatshark decided to do something about it

8months scratching their asses

[junior grail]

Patch14 recons finally getting good again before getting kicked back down

[ivory kiln]

Wish we could get that shotgun the assassination target has with a drum mag like that

[untold mulch]

Overall what pisses me off id that

The gun wss trash for the entire game

Only time it began to swim it was instantly bonked back down

Like who tf is balancing?

A monkey slamming the keyboard?

[native lotus]

"lazz-gun" or "lays-gun"

[junior grail]

Generap consensus is lazz

[native lotus]

yeah that's how I say it

[junior grail]

Lays-gun sounds like I'm firing potato chips at the enemy

[native lotus]

but "laser-gun" would imply it's lays-gun

[ivory kiln]

I read Las as Lazz

[untold mulch]

I always use lazz

[atomic zephyr]

lazz

[native lotus]

ya like lazz?

[junior grail]

I heard its based on "top player feedback"

[untold mulch]

Though lore wise

[atomic zephyr]

It just flows better

[native lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/you-like-jazz-jazz-bee-bee-movie-you-wanna-dance-gif-7542753

[untold mulch]

Laysgun is accurate

[atomic zephyr]

when has 40k lore been respected

lol

[jolly cave]

Shoot potato chips directly into my mouth

[native lotus]

darktide is my first and only exposure to 40k lore

[atomic zephyr]

mine was battlefleet gothic

[untold mulch]

No comments tbh

Can be either Fatshark usual competence or the Playtesters doing a funny

I doubt it wss playtesters because Crab was surprised af with the crit change

And shocktrooper change

[junior grail]

I miss Crab

[untold mulch]

Same

[junior grail]

How was this changed again?

[untold mulch]

Only affects the first crit of a chain

Or it has a small cd

On practical terms

It was changed in a way that only fucks with the Recon

Panic Nerf 100%

They did too many direct changes to it

See ya in 2025 next time they are usable at this rate

[empty creek]

hey any really good vets on RN

not even really good

any MID VETERANS able 2 play RN

[forest blaze]

Hahahaha

Fuck recon
-FatShark

[junior grail]

Recon got Retconned

[untold mulch]

Elysians only take Ls

[junior grail]

L-lysians

[frosty lark]

is a 16% toughness transcendant curio worth picking up from melk

[grand sable]

no

[bold sierra]

😔

if only damage and mobility were swapped...

[bold sierra]

would prefer +Flak armored but unyielding isnt too bad to have

if you get a good second blessing that could be great

[shell berry]

I know, I'm sweating

need to go farm some plasteel

[bold sierra]

I'll throw a brick at hadron for ya if she fucks it up

[shell berry]

thanks bud

[finite imp]

i met a psyker whose soft level was like 700

yeezus

[grand sable]

met john darktide at around 1500

what should I slap on this

[empty creek]

smthng cool

[umbral scaffold]

im mid wats up

worst vet gamer around good sir 🫡

[empty creek]

@umbral scaffold so mid U pulled up late bruh WTF.

[umbral scaffold]

yep

sorry just jumped out of warp (my shower)

[empty creek]

@umbral scaffold cracks myt huge monkey knuckles im gonna kill U

[umbral scaffold]

im a great clean one

[empty creek]

i was trying 2 do the bullshit private game zealot penance less-than-1-wound heresy under 20 minutes thing & needed a 4th who was a VOC vet

[umbral scaffold]

yea you succeed ?

[empty creek]

no

[atomic zephyr]

me watching the psyker autopistol magdump into several hordes and then bitch at us for stealing the ammo
i hadnt picked up any at that point

[empty creek]

shit got me outside in the dark hands in my pockets kicking rocks glumly bruh

it's harder than i thought

gettin my ass beat on normal low-intens heresy despite me clearying auric damnation just fine on the same exact zealot build

[serene sage]

did the server shit itself?

[empty creek]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wouldnt-get-it-joker-smoking-gif-15952801

[serene sage]

can anyone log in rn?

[umbral scaffold]

this is u bruh

[empty creek]

im logged in

[empty creek]

dude it's fucking bad RN

[grand sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/687030778999472163.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[umbral scaffold]

FUCK

[midnight patrol]

This would be perfect as it os for an onslaught talent build

[umbral scaffold]

im a pretty dam good vet @empty creek i run VOC usually

let me know if u want to get on

[empty creek]

im already on, it's up 2 U

[umbral scaffold]

vc ?

[midnight patrol]

Like really, you can keep it as it is and you should be able to do funny stuff on crushers once you set them on fire

[empty creek]

i would prefer a full squad instead of just 2 people, but

[empty creek]

i unfortunately can't RN

5640780893 is the code

[grand sable]

it was originally used to the funny bayonet only build

[umbral scaffold]

ive never used the code before

[empty creek]

use the code imbecile

[jaunty lantern]

For a Columnus infantry crit build is stopping power important?

[empty creek]

fool

use it, blart

[umbral scaffold]

where oes the code go YOU FUCKING RE

[midnight patrol]

You joke, but I've legit kept up with oggy melee with bayonet spam lol

[plush notch]

anyone know the max toughness percentage you can get on a curio for vet at lvl 30+?

[empty creek]

HelP! Help ! Help ! Help!

go 2 the uhhh

[umbral scaffold]

Thanks!

[empty creek]

social section in ur menu

[midnight patrol]

Who knew pokey stick is a good headshot stab machine

[native lotus]

this game is too confusing

[umbral scaffold]

I need ammo!

[empty creek]

peep this

peep that

[grand sable]

preferably high

[empty creek]

my game cras

Help

[umbral scaffold]

i gotta slam a bear\

a beard

[empty creek]

my house might be 0on fire

[umbral scaffold]

just pee on it

[empty creek]

True.

[grand sable]

I half* joke when I competed with a kickback once

[empty creek]

@umbral scaffold yo do U have other goons who can help

[brisk sapphire]

Were they using power maul lol

[empty creek]

i need a village

[umbral scaffold]

my gf is a darktide gaymer

she can sometimes survive damnation

[empty creek]

@umbral scaffold yeah but is she good

good enough

[umbral scaffold]

heresy is no problem usually

[empty creek]

well it's heresy but we're speedrunning

under 20 minutes

[umbral scaffold]

lets get this

[grand sable]

godspeed you fools

[umbral scaffold]

she said "let me dump out these dead bodies first"

givee her a moment to dispose of the dead bodies please

then we'll play

[empty creek]

i understand fully

[brisk sapphire]

Heresy is usually an exercise in carrying. I got to experience it again while leveling my 8th operative recently

[grand sable]

8th?

[umbral scaffold]

is your fulltime job playing darktide

[empty creek]

no it’s what happens when U don’t like the voice U picked initially

[brisk sapphire]

I like the voice variety, I prolly wont get all their melks done lol

[jaunty lantern]

Should I get this for the blessing or should I actually use it?

[empty creek]

make a new character

i knew it

golly my brain is just so astoundingly huge & disgusting

[umbral scaffold]

carapace armourded enemies on a lasgun is filthy if its not a helbore

i think youd do more damage to a crusher slapping it with your floppy cock than shooting it wit a mg iv lasgun

[jaunty lantern]

So jsut get it for the blessing then or outright ignore it?

[umbral scaffold]

which blessing

id say you can change out the perks and it would be fine

i dont know the consensus on between the eyes its useless for me because i run suppression immunity

[jaunty lantern]

There is also this. THe stability is kind of ass but I haven't managed to get a higher roll out of Brunt

[midnight patrol]

Shield Oggy funnily enough

It did make me curious of I can make a knife build with hesvy attack spam work as well though

I do realize the bayonet has hilarious stagger, so it's very very safe to use even against ragers

Knife does not

[jaunty lantern]

Should I get that or just keep on rolling, rolling rolling

[bold sierra]

Heresy provides...?

He died moments later

[solemn frost]

if your playing veteran, and not telling your other friends to play only veteran, making a squad of 4 veterans, you aren't a true veteran player.

[forest blaze]

Played a game of AM with only vets

It was actually difficult because there is a large disparity in skill levels for the vet when it comes to handling hordes

[finite imp]

unfortanately we can't just w+m1

[forest blaze]

Quite

And ammo usage was a real concern.

But once the group got the hang of the rhythm (and I switched to just being melee only with PS) it was much easier

[bold sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/colon-three-kitty-crumb-cuptoat-heavy-gif-15723533476185307497

[midnight patrol]

.. That's a very apt description of how Vets are

[forest blaze]

When the lineup is: Plasma. Bolter. Hellbore. Revolver.

We gonna have a gap with ranged weapon usage

[midnight patrol]

Then you get a chad running an onslaught talent build MGIV

Spess laser RPK gaming

[muted knot]

If everyone is on scavenger (AS THEY SHOULD BE) that seems fine

[sonic coyote]

Is field improvisations worth it?

[midnight mortar]

It's not really an essential pick.

If you somehow have points to spare, you can have it as a luxury. It doesn't have a major impact on teams that already play well though

[sonic coyote]

Got it. Thank you for the info!

[empty creek]

@umbral scaffold ur real AF bruh

[stray storm]

Thoughts?

[umbral scaffold]

thanks i try

[stark hollow]

headhunter feels underpowered to me. im using deadly acc and surgical on a good 380

if all your shots arent headshots you aint gonna do any damage

[cerulean void]

on the other hand if you hit those headshots it's batty with certain builds

[stark hollow]

its semi auto but its not fully semi auto. dosent fire as fast as you can click

so sometimes i click faster than i can shoot and it throws me off

[umbral scaffold]

thats a big problem with a lot of the "semi-autos" in the game but its probably to mitigate exploiting the firerate

[stark hollow]

i feel having headshots as its gimmick sucks when its outperformed in every other aspect and even in the headshot department in some cases

[umbral scaffold]

because if the firerate was truly as fast as you can click then you can easily exploit that with an autoclicker or something of the sort

[stark hollow]

i mean a reasonable limit can be set

humans can only click so fast

[stark hollow]

also an autoclicker is gonna empty your ammo real quick with a 20+/- round mag

[umbral scaffold]

i can mimic FA in some games like insurgency sandstorm using 2 fingers but its not practical in game lol

[stark hollow]

that is reasonable

[umbral scaffold]

i press the lmb with 2 fingers like im strumming a bass guitar and i can achieve some nutty firerates

[stark hollow]

i mean use 2 fingers and mimic fa but at the cost of your ammo going bye bye

cant belive im saying this but R6 siege has a good balance for the semi auto rate

[cerulean void]

shrug I think a VII headhunter is in a really poor spot, kinda like Mk2 Helbore

[stark hollow]

i think hellbore is aight

[umbral scaffold]

i would love if darktide gave us a realistic cyclic firerate for the semiautos

[stark hollow]

still fun to use

[cerulean void]

it has more power than most things need and not enough to deal with other things

[umbral scaffold]

the normal lasguns can be fully auto in lore too