veteran-class

[sharp ember]

you should already be dropping most* flak boys in 1 or 2 charged headshots with this fine specimen

so flak would only help with bodyshotting maulers, or making flak ragers a comfortable 2-headshot

[pulsar drift]

power sword made vet great again

[light locust]

I use this to axe heretics to repent

[hollow linden]

heard all this chief appreciate the advice. i wasnt sure between flak and maniac but yeah makes more sense

time to test this sucker out

[shadow wasp]

honestly jealous, been trying to roll a good one for weeks now

[light locust]

This to pop sniper heads

[hollow linden]

i got it with melkbucks tbh

[sharp ember]

yeah it's actually a better version of my current lucius mk1

[hollow linden]

had to do a quick match before thanksgiving dinner to afford before the melkshop refreshed

[shadow wasp]

is that a setting for the stats to be shown like that @hollow linden

[serene sage]

Truly dedication

[hollow linden]

you mean the bar maxed out? it's a mod

[half ginkgo]

this has potential

[shadow wasp]

ah fuck

i gotta learn how to do mods for this game

[hollow linden]

im telling you fam it's extremely simple

drag and drop, little text file, bada bing bada boom

[shadow wasp]

is it through vortex

[dusk idol]

no

[hollow linden]

you can also do vortex

afaik but i do manual

[dusk idol]

can you?

[hollow linden]

it's all from the nexus

[serene sage]

The hardest part is finding where the game is located

[hollow linden]

right click on game in steam -> properties -> installed files -> browse local game files

[dusk idol]

the hardest part is remembering to toggle your mods on after a patch

[shadow wasp]

atleast its simple

[sharp ember]

there is a vortex method, but i do it normally

[serene sage]

What the fuck
I've been doing Steam/steamapps/common/games route for 10 years

[hollow linden]

no longer must you suffer as i did.

this ain't minecraft no more!

[sharp ember]

damned filepaths

[hollow linden]

%appdata% balogna

[serene sage]

Tfw Discord default on PC is that

[trail ginkgo]

Is finesse important on power sword?

[serene sage]

Not really it's an easy to use weapon

[sharp ember]

it's nice but your activation animation doesn't benefit from it, and you activate a lot

[fair jay]

That’s weird :0 unless power sword activation just doesn’t hit weak spots I haven’t used psword yet

[young dagger]

is plasma gun hitscan or projectile ?

[half ginkgo]

projectile

[odd wind]

it used to be better vs monstrosities in previous patch 14, now its decent but not that good

[dusk idol]

it feels pretty hitscan

[serene sage]

It's a hitscan projectile

[bold ibex]

i've grudgingly changed how i play with the mid keystones and just obsessively tag evertything. With that change... I can honestly say it's probably the vets best keystone. +12% damage on the whole squad with 100% uptime along with an absolutely absurd amount of toughness and stamina for everyone.

Combine shout and it's just kinda stupid

then ofc you hit a boss and just melt it

[strange grove]

Yea I feel the same way

[midnight patrol]

I've come across Vets that bind that to their fire key.

Nothing more annoying than the noise of 10 pings a second in a massive firefight.

[bold ibex]

that's pretty stupid since pinging them the second time unhighlights them and wastes the charge

[candid tundra]

is the Agri IX headhunter any good?

[strange ledge]

Did they hotfix the lingering debuff ?

[bold ibex]

which one?

[strange ledge]

Afaik focus target could be applied to multiple targets and lasts 25s regardless of being highlighted or not

[jaunty herald]

For anyone using the middle keystone (Focus Target), is the keystone modifier named Focussed Fire that gives 8 stacks instead of the default 5 stacks has been useful?

[torn gorge]

mostly on bosses

and for the bonus damage on the other trait

going from 7.5% to 12%

[half ginkgo]

yeah, but now i am experimenting with executioners and mid tree keystone on a vet just for more damage

also with redirect fire, but that's what, 4.5% extra team damage for 10s

[light locust]

Is there another way to increase wounds besides curios?

[bold ibex]

not for vets

[jaunty herald]

going down in difficulty

[bold ibex]

you 100% want it. key thing is it doesn't increase just the passive focus you can generate but also the cap of your damage buff.

and the way the buff stacks is every time you kill an enemy with it, you get that added to your current buff and the buff is refreshed

[astral blade]

Seeing all these videos on Facebook in the darktide group is painful

[bold ibex]

to finish the thought before someone revived me.... you also get one stack back when you kill your marked target. so you effectively will have 2 stacks at a minimum, usually 3, which further increases ramp up and effectiveness of the secondary keystones

[astral blade]

Literally feel like I’m watching trash players

[dusk idol]

there’s a fb for Facebook?

lmao

a fb group for Darktide

this caffeine ain’t working

[bold ibex]

i'm so bummed after that match. I was headshotting gunners fairly reliably and they'd still take two boltor shots to put down. That felt so wrong.

and to put it mildly my boltor is pretty good

[hollow turtle]

Oh shit

Why does this have to be on my psyker dang it.

[astral blade]

Yeah there a darktide group on FB

[bold ibex]

if it makes you feel any better, you'd get shit perks and have to sell it anyways

[hollow turtle]

More than likely.

[astral blade]

And allot of these videos that I’ve watched literally is painful to watch trash players

[hollow turtle]

Definitely shit perks

Well at least I got a T4 blessing out of it.

[bold ibex]

😮

let's see if I get rng screwed!

I don't really want maniacs and the +20 carapace is a huge bummer but...

maybe i'll get super lucky and get pinning shot four as the last blessing? 😮

[half ginkgo]

maniac is good, cara is ok also

[bold ibex]

I really just care about cara +25 on a boltor since that's what it needs to kill super good.

That and headshot gunners but they always seem to need two shots.

My conspiracy theory is boltor's have fucked up hit prio and will prefer body shots over headshots

[half ginkgo]

boltor does feel like having messed up hit reg for sure

[bold ibex]

Yeah. Like its projectile is huge... I'll routinely shoot too high and get a headshot. But if it hits their throat it counts as a body shot most of the time which makes focus hard to stack and the damage super inconsistent

when the huge projectile should make it stupid easy to headshot

[half ginkgo]

yep, i routinely miss shots from 30 meters which should have been HS

hence why i run boltor nowadays on zel just to deal with crushers and groups of maulers

[bold ibex]

And even with surgical I have to run deadshot to make the sway somewhat manageable... but even then, snipers are hell

[half ginkgo]

if i am vet i just use plasma instead

easy hs from 60-70 meters 😄

[bold ibex]

Plasma is probably the better option, yeah, after they nerfed boltor into the ground

Revolver does boltor's job but better

[half ginkgo]

and even on zel i would rather take the revolver but with shitty team you mostly reload the damn thing

[bold ibex]

that's the one advantage vet has with the weapon switch thing. I don't even run reload anything on mine, just in battle rely on swapping quickly between kills

you can kill five mobs, swapping between each, and reload faster than max reload revolver

[half ginkgo]

i mean i can run sainted gunslinger on zel but mid tree there imho sucks

apart from chorus all the good stuff is left or right

[bold ibex]

tru tru

Boltor though... I wish I could run middle tree with it, but there's no way to do that with +25% ammo

And without +25% ammo, boltor is a bad time

[placid portal]

meh just use bolt gun for elite/specials and let your teammates scrap the shooters

[half ginkgo]

well you can just drop stockpile /s

[bold ibex]

you think my team knows how to right click shooters?

[placid portal]

no

But why bother

[stray storm]

Worth it?

[placid portal]

[whole moon]

Imo nope

[bold ibex]

I'm not a fan of that kantrael version... but it's good if you like that one/

[stray storm]

Melks also selling a shitty bolter but it has a Tier 4 pinning fire

[bold ibex]

getitgetitgetit

[stray storm]

But eh I guess I’ll pass the las

[whole moon]

I expect nothing less than IVs from Melk tho.

[bold ibex]

melk selling 340 weapons is such bullshit

[stray storm]

The goto build for bolters is Surgical and Pinning fire yes?

[half wigeon]

good ?

[whole moon]

Or Shattering/Pinning. I went surgical myself

[half wigeon]

oh nice

tbh i'll take the thing that give finesse haha

[torn gorge]

thats kinda bad ngl

i was severely disappointed when i tried it

it really does not hold a candle vs headtaker

[rigid pilot]

Shattering is very good for bosses/crushers, so I went surgical shattering

[half wigeon]

i play it with laspistol so i can heavy burst

it's 24% finesse x5

[bold ibex]

are you sniping with it? Surgical/pinning for breakpoints pref. Are you full autoing bosses and crushers? pinning/shattering.

Shattering/Surgical isn't bad though. It jsut has a bit of an identity crisis

[half wigeon]

yeah i know xd

[golden axle]

volatile is bugged right?

[rigid pilot]

I didn't need pinning for BPs, probably because I was running exestance

[fast snow]

What’s the build on that pistol?

[rigid pilot]

But this was pre15 vet where I could get all the elite damage and ogryn damage I wanted

Pinning doesn't help against bosses though

Unless there's a horde nearby

Which I guess there will be

Ah I see

[bold ibex]

Ehh, even then it's a worse revolver most of the time since revolver has guaranteed crits and 90% rending

Ahh that's fair

Yeah you're right I think. After using a surgical boltor I'm probably going back to non-surgical.

[rigid pilot]

Does krak give more stacks of pinning than shred?

How did you get 5 in the vid

Oh lmao

It?

[bold ibex]

I just need two more points in the vet tree to run middle keystone boltor. I think taht would actually be worthwhile.

cuz middle keystone gives you something to do during reloads

[rigid pilot]

Oh you mean one magdump

Is marksman worth it on bolter

Reload speed sounds nice but

Interesting, but also sounds painful

They need to change the swap speed to something sane

Either or really

[candid tundra]

is the agri IX headhunter any good or are the others better?

[half ginkgo]

others

[rigid pilot]

I don't like the burst on agri

[keen sedge]

colmnus my beloved

[rigid pilot]

Columnus is just the bis autogun now

For IAG, dunno about the braced one

[half ginkgo]

columnus is the highest rof one right?

[keen sedge]

even if colmnus is meant for close range, it can still do well at long ranges

[keen sedge]

high rof, yes, highest rof of all guns, no

[rigid pilot]

Yea it's not helpless against a far away sniper

[keen sedge]

columnus is a S tier vet weapon, A tier psyker and B tier Zealot weapon

[keen sedge]

i've killed them at far ranges with it

by tap firing

[rigid pilot]

Yes

[gritty dock]

Worth it? I haven't used this type of weapon yet.

[snow wadi]

Whats the best Brauto gun these days anyways?

[rigid pilot]

Still Agri I think

[keen sedge]

agri

[rigid pilot]

But brauto stocks are falling

[keen sedge]

Though I remember the agri being better for zealot

[rigid pilot]

Zealot doesn't really care about finesse

In their tree

[hybrid river]

Doesn’t matter uncle Ben, Columnus auto is better than both

[autumn perch]

VETERAN CHAT
IN 10 MINUTES
IM GONNA GIVE A RANDOM STEAM KEY
TO THE BEST MEME SUBMITTED
GO

[stark moth]

@autumn perch I went to warn you ab psyker chat tbr

[autumn perch]

lol

[keen sedge]

steam key 4 what

[autumn perch]

random games

[zealous wyvern]

he said random

[autumn perch]

good games

not meme games

[rigid pilot]

For these

[stark moth]

List the games case

Always start w that

[autumn perch]

Star Wars KOTOR
Mortal Kombat
Dead Island Riptide

[zealous wyvern]

is a key added to your library or can you decline it?

because i can imagine nothing worse than having some stupid porn title or child game in my library

[autumn perch]

i will dm it to u so u can choose what to do

[keen sedge]

does this count?
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1EtSP6dEBUQZTv/FooAslO9O4Ky?invite=cr-MSxJTWUsMTkxMDIyMjAyLA

[stark moth]

It tells you the game before accepting

If you redeem the key

[zealous wyvern]

ah so you can "not" redeem it?

[stark moth]

Yeah

[autumn perch]

ye

[zealous wyvern]

good to know

[gritty dock]

Thanks. I don't have Dumdum version IV yet.

[autumn perch]

i accept

[stark moth]

Basically anything short and funny

Send

And not against rules

[autumn perch]

yeah that

[keen sedge]

[autumn perch]

SEND MEMES

MEMES

FREE GAME

[zealous wyvern]

poor case missing the meme channel

[stark moth]

He’s done it in two chats, its a short period jsut for fun

Plus free game just for a short derailment

Zealot chat did this so easily smh

[stark moth]

Lmaoo

[whole moon]

Potato Salad is a Thanksgiving thing yeah?

[zealous wyvern]

WOW nsfw right in here?

[zealous wyvern]

right in here

[autumn perch]

KORP

SEND MEME

[zealous wyvern]

no

[autumn perch]

BUT

[stark moth]

Too serious smh

[autumn perch]

GAME

[umbral scaffold]

why are recon lasguns bad now?

[keen sedge]

me about to send death korps furry image of myself

[zealous wyvern]

i do not care

case you are being generous

i hope the person enjoys their game

[autumn perch]

well thats fun

[whole moon]

They were unbalanced and get nerfed into the group (pending a rework?)

[autumn perch]

ok i think Kal wins

with funny fly meme

kal

[zealous wyvern]

i meant harley. i do care about your efforts

[autumn perch]

pick number 1-3

[zealous wyvern]

that came out wrong

[whole moon]

I was trying to get some action going, already told Cäse to skip me from the draw

[stark moth]

It ok

[autumn perch]

aw shucks

ok harley

you win

[whole moon]

Thanks tho

[zealous wyvern]

vet chat too dead right now

[autumn perch]

pick number

1-3

@keen sedge

[zealous wyvern]

good luck

[keen sedge]

uh 1

[autumn perch]

ok!

im dming key now

[stark moth]

I appreciate you doing this for everyone

Good time

[autumn perch]

thanks thrond

[whole moon]

Testimony to your character Sir!

[autumn perch]

@keen sedge if you can, share what you got!

[stark moth]

Im curious which key it was

KOTOR is goated

[zealous wyvern]

virtue in the Emperors name

commendable indeed

[keen sedge]

It was stars war: knights of old rebpublic

[autumn perch]

https://tenor.com/view/swtor-the-old-republic-star-wars-aviriia-gif-19999461

[whole moon]

Grats!

[bold ibex]

got downed by a mutant into flamer.... this asshole rushed in and rezzed me in the tox flamer muck

instantly lost 90% of the health I had and got killed by a single melee

:I

[zealous wyvern]

i feel like he did mean well

[bold ibex]

yeaaah, which is why i didn't say anything

better than the people who walk past people netted for more killz

[zealous wyvern]

the concept of caring score remotely is beyond me

[bold ibex]

i dunno if it's even score. they just care more about killing elites than winning

[zealous wyvern]

i just care about performing well for the team, getting loot

i do not get scoreboard gameplay especially since this games score board is a MOD that half the players cannot see and another chunk never gets the mod for even though they could

[bold ibex]

look at that attack stat... but hey, slaughterer 4!

i do wanna get a scoreboard just so i can sit back and bask in how amazing i am

[slim sand]

ok so my friend is just now coming back to the game and i know they nerfed the recon lasgun, but this is basically really good right?

ive never ran recon myself so idk

[bold ibex]

yes but it's a recon lasgun

[umbral scaffold]

nerfed it yet, it's still usable

[strange ledge]

Enjoy having no ammo

[umbral scaffold]

I play with a recon and have no issues

ammo or otherwise

[rigid pilot]

It's nerfed and has really bad damage output but it's usable

Anything is usable

[tall torrent]

usable (barely), outclassed in basically every category

[bold ibex]

no pinning 4. D:
umpteenth shattering 4
But it was gonna be a shattering boltor anyways so... close enough

I'd compare the recon lasgun to the Chaxe... but the chaxe is a perfectly decent weapon

[rigid pilot]

If you point a recon at something that isn't armored and shoot they usually take damage

[undone mica]

Looking for some ideas - I use plasma gun but no crit build. For my second perk should I still aim to get Get hot (Crit up based on heat) Or would Shattering Impact (Target receives 1-4 Stacks of 5% Brittleness on direct projectile hit. Lasts 5s) Or Glory Hunter? (Get toughness 25% on elite kill)

I feel, Get Hot Gives me crit I don't have?
shattering for team play?
Glory Hunter for my survivability?

[opal granite]

same... well kinda... I'm still thinking which one is better VId with higher fire rate but way less damage or VIIa with lower fire rate but way more damage... the ammo problem felt worse on the VId...

[livid fractal]

ik this is trash but p cycler t4 is an absolute must have isnt it?

[autumn perch]

Yes

[whole moon]

I forget who posted it but it was a scoreboard page showing that ammo claimed Vs ranged damage done w a VLd. Tldr ammo goblin w least ranged damage in team

[midnight mortar]

Yes.

[bold ibex]

brunt had a good weapon for sale. 😮

[rigid pilot]

Sounds like pre/post13 recon alright

[whole moon]

This patch afaik but I'll admit I don't remember

[rigid pilot]

Yes probably post nerf

[paper brook]

I only play the darkest of tides

[strange ledge]

Rip shock trooper

[paper brook]

Has the plasma been nerfed at all since it's major buff?

[strange ledge]

Nopers

[keen sedge]

im trying so hard to get any kind of power cycler

even just tier 3 just PLEASE

[bold ibex]

make sure to check Brunt's too. Igot a power cycler 4 from him once on a blue

[keen sedge]

yah ive been checkin

[still pollen]

when I inspect the stats for shotgun, & I see there's a spread stat in stability, does that affect the spread of the pellets or is it just recoil spread?

[valid bluff]

I think it's initial spread as well

[tall torrent]

Harvest power cycler 4, or take to gold to see if you get a good 2nd blessing

[livid fractal]

too low dmg, too high mobility imo

[bold ibex]

that's not trash, it's perfectly fine

[livid fractal]

alr scrapped it for t4

[bold ibex]

welp that's a big ouchie

anything 350 and above is probably worth using if it's 70%+ in damage stast

[livid fractal]

i spose

i'm a bit of a perfectionist and i don't like the psword all that muich

so i'm only gonna use it if i see a JUICY one

[bold ibex]

well then you're gonna have a real bad time with powersword.

it's the hardest vet weapon to get an okay, let alone great one of

[livid fractal]

i mean i have power cycler

[south garnet]

Dark tide more like dork guys LMAO!

[bold ibex]

Which is great... but you 100% need a blessing slot to change. So you must have either two great perks, or a good perk and a good blessing. And for that other blessing, you should go Brutal Momentum 4

So you have two possible good blessings you need to pull or get perfect perks

[livid fractal]

ah

[south garnet]

Fat shark more like cat fart

[livid fractal]

fuck

[south garnet]

LMAO!

[bold ibex]

Which is why any powersword with power cycler and kinda okay perks, assuming its damage isn't in the toilet, is pretty great. :<

Also you should only really try for the Mk6 swords

MK3 post buffs/changes is pretty garbage

[zealous wyvern]

gross

[south garnet]

😈

[candid tundra]

headhunter or surgical for agri headhunter IX?

[bold ibex]

surgical. It gains 3 stacks if all three bullets hit and applies for the full next burst, afaik

er... headhunter, not surgical I mean

it's pretty underrated imo. i prefer it over the vrak.

[candid tundra]

roger

thanks

[candid tundra]

they're better ofc, It's just all I have

can't get a good vrak 3 for the life of me

[hallow tulip]

just started playing vet

which keystone is the overall favouruite thus far?

[astral ingot]

none of them

[hallow tulip]

lmjao

[astral ingot]

most of the time I eschew them entirely in favor of the other medium nodes

[hallow tulip]

seems like weapon specialist is the best

[keen sedge]

QUIT SPAWNING DIAMANTINE I NEED PLASTEEL PPLAAASSTEEELLLLL

went a whole run with only finding diamantine

[livid fractal]

what blessings and such do i want on pgun

[south garnet]

Gets hot blaze away

[marsh cargo]

would anyone be willing to carry me for the overwatch penance?

[sharp epoch]

It's not

Focus target's the "best", but its a waste of nodes imo

[terse idol]

Yuh,
Gets hot
Blaze away
With a small dump of Charge rate

[dusk idol]

dump charge rate??

[unkempt forge]

been enjoying stabby stabby knife

is this any decent?

[terse idol]

Well you need about

73%

Not a dump but

As far as I can tell 80% isn't gonna charge it fast enough to matter

Me as I have no evidence to back this up 😌

Its just a theory I got to actually be able to maximize other stats that may be more important

I wish I could math out the exact charge rate where it doesn't decrease DPS on charge cause that might be the god roll Plasmagun

[dusk idol]

73% is the prime value for the damage interaction (bug) and the charge rate itself doesn’t have a massive impact on how fast your shots are loosed

[terse idol]

Hmm yeah and that bug appearently was fixed

[dusk idol]

ive seen like single digit charge rate plasmas that are borderline unusable though

[dusk idol]

as of?

[terse idol]

As of quotes from the discord

I'll need to riffle through the patch notes to find it

But Azreal said so and a few others a few days ago

Not that it's like reliable but that's what I've been hearing

[paper brook]

what;s the damage interaction bug?

[dusk idol]

charge rate will negatively impact damage above or below 73%

[paper brook]

so if I have 80% charge rate that's bad?

fucking ass titties

[dusk idol]

it’s not bad per se, you lose like 30 damage and I don’t reckon anyone’s tested if it actually changes any break points

but the interaction is there

[terse idol]

So weird

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/Xa4kLtPraj

Oh

Also, uh, appearently you don't want more than 65TR too

My brain expanding

[dusk idol]

oh

[thorn yoke]

I guess plasma works in mysterious ways.

[dusk idol]

charge rate affects TR as well

two weapons with the same thermal res but different charge rates

fatshark code moment

[dusk idol]

this is unconfirmed though, and is my theory as to the variance

[celest vine]

The more i learn about this games fucked coding, the more I believe bethesda has a more sane system

[terse idol]

It makes sense regarding those two videos... which not at all urgh

[celest vine]

[dusk idol]

fatshark forgot to hire the guy who coded roller coaster tycoon and hired the coding team from undertale instead

except in undertale the code still worked 😭

[celest vine]

Actually it’s insulting to compare this game to bethesda

Fatshark doesnt need a modding community to fix basic issues

[dusk idol]

darktides modding community is just adding in cut content and QoL

the ability to change my tag colour was something I never knew I needed till I had it

[delicate estuary]

how big a meme is brauto on vet

[south garnet]

Then translated the resulting work into Frigidaire touchscreen software and embedded it in ATM firmware

[dusk idol]

it works alright

if you’re playing a close range vet and have at least someone on your team who can tackle long range targets, brauto vet works pretty nice

[south garnet]

Saw a guy plant his feet, brace, and fire indiscriminately into poxwalker hordes and get overwhelmed / die repeatedly trying to proc his left keystone over the course of a round

Pretty funny

[dusk idol]

😭

[south garnet]

Turret form activate

[dusk idol]

he tried to turn himself into a dreg gunner

[delicate estuary]

left keystone on braced autos

[thorn yoke]

Left Keystone

[delicate estuary]

💀

[thorn yoke]

In fairness I've tried to get left keystone to work.

[feral jetty]

ogryn invading vet chat to wish you all a great night, cause if you're not you're gettin' an ogryn™️ hug

[thorn yoke]

it might be usable if it said "If you have 1 stack of focus you get rending" on the modifier instead of 10

[marsh condor]

Should I?

[bold ibex]

thrust for finallyrry

[strange ledge]

heya whats the weapon customisation mod called ?

[teal abyss]

The wording on Thrust confuses me, but probably because I just don’t know how it works, what stacks? So you fully charge a melee and it does plus +20% damage, does the stack mean the next one does +40% and then the third 60%?

[teal abyss]

Extended Weapon Customization

[delicate estuary]

the more you hold your heavy attack the more damage it will do for that one heavy attack

[gilded wraith]

Which perk should I replace, and what should I put in its place?

[delicate estuary]

I understand it as 60% more damage on a fully charged heavy

[dusk idol]

this is right

each stack is worth however much power the blessing says

[teal abyss]

It’s “UP TO +20%” that confuses me I think, the wording implies 20% is some sort of cap

[delicate estuary]

oh true

[dusk idol]

it isn’t

[delicate estuary]

my bad

[dusk idol]

it stacks up to 60%

[teal abyss]

Yeah sorry was slow on that edit lmao

[dusk idol]

don’t ever trust how fatshark writes their info on anything

it’s all lies 💀

[bold ibex]

You get +60% power by holding the attack button slightly longer than you'd normally

[delicate estuary]

is this a perfect roll ?

[bold ibex]

the stacks happen really quickly

[dusk idol]

like skullcrusher used to (still does for some tiers of the blessing) say 1-4 stacks of 5% damage but for some reason the code let it scale from 40% to 80%

[bold ibex]

that mobility will get you moidered, but that's half the fun

[dusk idol]

how I worded that was misleading, the end result is 40%-80% more damage but the blessing info is all kinds of wack

[dusk idol]

it’s perfect

do you still get 2 dodges with that?

[gentle prawn]

dodge twice, wait two minutes to catch your breath, dodge twice again

[delicate estuary]

I rolled this instead

[stray shoal]

Hi, would anyone be able to explain how exactly the "toughness regeneration" stat works on curios?

since vet is kiiinda starvin for toughness i was wondering if that was worth refining onto my relics or if its a red herring

[terse idol]

Head hunter but you can't move

😌

[bold ibex]

I think it impacts your passive toughness regeneration? Don't think it buffs the talent boosts. But someone will correct me if I'm wrong there.

If you feel starved for toughness though, I'd recommend trying the middle keystone with all its nodes. It's a good time

[rigid pilot]

Only affects coherency regen, but does two things

Reduce delay before Regen
Increases Regen speed

[dusk idol]

toughness regeneration refers to toughness regen in coherency but not via any other sources of toughness gain

[rigid pilot]

I rather have revive speed

[stray shoal]

okay, thanks lads, I figured thats about what it meant but just wanted something more up-to-date to be sure

[rigid pilot]

Or stam regen

[dusk idol]

all goods, good luck with it

[stray shoal]

oh, while im at it, does revive speed effect how quickly you can free someone from a trapper's net?

[dusk idol]

no

[rigid pilot]

No, also doesn't affect untying captured teammates, also doesn't affect rescuing someone from a ledge

[dusk idol]

revive speed is purely for reviving downed allies whereas nets and falling over is assist speed

[midnight mortar]

That isn't a revive.

[stray shoal]

bummer, was hoping to give my friend's whiplash from the speed of getting caught and released in a fraction of a second

[terse idol]

Uh, it's okay, but the consensus is that because

[uncut acorn]

Anyone have a skill tree for Hellbore?

[dusk idol]

it’s alright, it’s pretty quick either way

[terse idol]

Toughness doesn't regen in melee

[midnight mortar]

Net freeing is already fast as fuck.

[terse idol]

Its not that good

[dusk idol]

you can still give him whiplash

[terse idol]

And I run the 90% toughness regen speed

[stray shoal]

more speed more power

[rigid pilot]

30% revive speed killed some people cause they didn't expect it and hold block

[terse idol]

I mean it helps when you can take cover from a squad of gunners

But otherwise the downside is if any enemies are melee range you don't get that bonus

[dusk idol]

it’s not as impactful as something like stam regen or block efficiency, but some people do advocate it

in the end it’s down to how you can play with what you have, and what works best for you

[dull osprey]

What melee weapon would you guys recommend other than powersword for horde clear as a vet?

[rigid pilot]

Dclaw probably

[dusk idol]

dclaw, chainsword, combat axe IF you have brutal momentum

but combat axe does feel a little sluggish if you’re push attacking a lot (for me personally anyway)

[dull osprey]

Which devils claw btw, are the differences just the attack patterns?

[dusk idol]

4 and 7 work best for horde clearing

[bold ibex]

if only chainsword had thrust D:

[dusk idol]

as you can alternate between light heavy (4) or heavy light (7) and keep up your mobility as needed

the differences are the attack patterns as well, yes

7 has a stab push attack whereas 4 has a strike down push attack

and their normal swings are reversed of one another

between 4 and 7, it’s preference. I like 4, some people like 7

[marsh condor]

How good is the Dumdum on Laspistol?

[dusk idol]

good

[bold ibex]

it's the only real option for a damage boosting blessing.

[idle carbon]

you know, I just noticed that fatshark re-implemented sprinting while holding the bayonet attack on helbores
plus the attack itself is good
also, I swear it feels like you get a small speed boost for a brief period after readying the bayonet

[alpine beacon]

based on limited personal testing, I would agree that there is an interaction with charge rate & TR
using a gun with Volatile 4, I can squeeze out 9 shots prior to overheating, without Volatile, same gun only gets 8 shots

[dusk idol]

thank you for the test

[sharp ember]

you do go faster

i've been running down trappers and dogs and it's amazing

mk3 bayonet still needs love, probably a whole animation overhaul to make it a cleave

[idle carbon]

that or just make it share the same anim/attack, because it really does suck

interesting to see that you do actually go faster tho lol, maybe just maybe I can keep up with the zealot :D

[gentle prawn]

i just spent half of a boss fight running around the arena killing dogs with bayonet

with a decent damage stat you can 1 hit dogs mid-leap with a mk2 bayonet

[vagrant ruin]

Does anyone mind helping me with the "on overwatch " penance?

[dull osprey]

Ahh, what blessings and perks would you guys recommend for devil's claw?

Wrath and savage sweep + groaners/pox and maniac?

[sharp ember]

perks: flak + maniac/unarmored
blessings: rampage + savage sweep/wrath

groaners/pox perk is too little to actually do anything

and rampage + 1 cleave blessing is plenty for 90% of all reasonable situations

[quick burrow]

what about 90% of all unreasonable situations WHAT THEN GUARDSMAN

[sharp ember]

DO IT THEN

ENGAGE THAT 12-PACK OF CRUSHERS WITH A DEVIL CLAW

[quick burrow]

good answer

[sharp ember]

YOU HAVE 400% CLEAVE DON'T YOU

[dull osprey]

ok ty

[quick burrow]

you get to live another day

[hallow tulip]

parry this filthy casual heretics

[arctic hull]

Best headhunter autogun for vets?

[tall torrent]

The bayonet is a legit melee weapon rn

[sharp ember]

they're all kinda equal in my book, but probably Vraks 3

for Headhunter + Deadly Accurate shenanigans

[arctic hull]

thanks

so same blessings and perks for all 3 of them?

[marsh condor]

I wish the Bayonet stays like that

Even without any Blessings affecting it like the Ripper Gun's Can Opener.

[sharp ember]

yeah, Deadly Accurate + Surgical/Headhunter, they're all highly-rated

[marsh condor]

(I mean, except for the MkIII. That one needs a bloody rework)

[gentle prawn]

any stagger related blessings also affect the bayonet

[tall torrent]

Mk3 helbore’s bayonet moveset is bad

Mk1 and mk2 helbores have the good moveset

[gentle prawn]

me gun too longe, canny run quick

[marsh condor]

Most bayonet charges used a musket, which is longer.

[tall torrent]

With 25% maniac perk and 30% weakpoint talent you can:
1 hit head both flamers, sniper, bomber, hound
2 hit head mutants
3 hit head dreg ragers (full stagger on every hit)

[south garnet]

Saw comment that made me laugh out loud in a match this evening

[tall torrent]

It is unironically very reliable in fighting ragers and mutants

[gentle prawn]

spam stabbing muties is peak gameplay

[tall torrent]

1 VoC + helbore bayonet spam can have you kill 4 ragers taking minimal health chip dmg

[whole moon]

Also, because they used plug bayonettes the musketeers would charge using the style of a spear (overhead angled down) as opposed to flat at gut level.

[quick burrow]

wait the vraks 3 is good?

[marsh condor]

You see where I'm going?

[quick burrow]

someone told me its the discount mk7

[tall torrent]

Helbore 2 is essentially a gun tied to a spear

[tall torrent]

It’s great

[tall torrent]

Nah

[gentle prawn]

its a spear with a jumped-up laser pointer on it

[marsh condor]

They should switch the Mk3's moveset to this.

[quick burrow]

wait so

[south garnet]

3 of us downed, ogryn boss attacking vet with dclaw. Zealot types "hes doing it he's parrying"

[quick burrow]

i shouldnt have sold this ?

[tall torrent]

Fuck it, have helbore 3’s special be a bayonet parry

[south garnet]

I don't know why but it broke my brain

[sharp ember]

WHAT that's a god gun

woe to thee for not hoarding optimal setups of every single weapon variant

[tall torrent]

Literal godroll lol

[quick burrow]

said it was bricked cause the headhunter only procs on the first bullet in the burst

[sharp ember]

that's not what bricked means

[tall torrent]

It crits for the full burst

[quick burrow]

im jk i still have it lul

im dumb as fuck but not that dumb

[sharp ember]

[quick burrow]

dont make me show your my laspistol next

its cursed

its so fucking good cursed though

[tall torrent]

I have acquired peak helbore and I now have 2 melee weapons at any time

[quick burrow]

i got this today as well

the ammo sucks though 😦

[tall torrent]

Ammo doesn’t matter that much

Only a couple rounds of difference

[quick burrow]

about 40ish

almost a full clip

[tall torrent]

No not rly

[sharp ember]

the magazine count is an even number, it's alright

[tall torrent]

My 76% ammo roll on Mk5 IAG is 57/575

So not a huge difference

[quick burrow]

ok that might be true lol im lookin at my other ones with higher ammop and 78% is only 577

wiht 57 rounds in a clip

so your right

u guys think i should swap fire frenzy for dum dum ?

[south garnet]

Dum dum

Always dum dum

[trail totem]

can scattershot proc off enemies hit with the altfire?

[quick burrow]

no idea but im gonna say 100% yes

[rugged goblet]

That's a nice gun 🤤

[plush dragon]

yes it always does but the special shot literally lowers your base dps and deletes your reload effeciency perks

kantreal is the best cause the right click shoots through trash for special management during hordes

scatter is a must :3

nice fire frenzy too

prob trade sprint for maniac dps for anti trapper/flammer etc. and rager management

[trail totem]

did exactly that already

[plush dragon]

❤️ u bby

[shell berry]

Is pinning fire still a must have on Bolters?

[trail totem]

its not as powerful as it was but its still BiS

[nocturne mulch]

Omg bayonet limbsplitter + bromentum is broken af

No way this isnt getting fixed next patch

[shell berry]

I'm thinking of swapping Surgical for Pinning Fire III and Specialist damage for Maniacs.

[trail totem]

it might fly under the radars since its not as widely used as handcannon

[trail totem]

cavalcade is kinda crap atm

they need to take the times 3 nerf to pinning fire and apply it as a buff to cavalcade

might as well keep surgical to snipe specials if you're not taking shattering impact

[wanton dawn]

Before p13 bolter did not want to magdump

After p13 bolter... does not want to magdump. Even more

[trail totem]

double clip into poggy face was kinda funny

now hes kinda dead to just 1

[wanton dawn]

You could single clip it

[trail totem]

maybe my bolty was just trash back then

[wanton dawn]

Well, setup was unrealistic, but you could

[sterile stump]

do you guys know if they fixed the Scavenger not counting bug yet?

[trail totem]

presumably

was in the patch notes thats for sure

[sterile stump]

I hope so

I cannot complete any of my shit because of that

awesome

[radiant raptor]

It's fixed

I got the penance

[rancid tinsel]

just got this after an auric mission, not a bad spread of stats, just needs the perk rerolled

[finite imp]

Naw insta bricked

Useless

Toaster oven with a trigger

[thick rose]

so gets hot & blaze away on plasma?

[gusty bison]

Nah the blessings are the issue

The perks are usable

[novel moth]

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[prime vault]

Hmm. Worth grabbing from Melk? Does anyone even use the regular lasguns?

[willow forge]

Pretty tasty

[sharp ember]

not the best blessings for it, I'd probably skip

basically every infantry lasgun wants Headhunter + Deadly Accurate

[frank ether]

nah

[prime vault]

gotta do something to make up for the weaker base damage vs helbore. makes sense

[frank ether]

good base stats but everything else dodongo

I'm reasonably sure infantry las will outdps helbores if you look at your dps in a horde situation rather than single target burst damage

[prime vault]

he's also got this one, which has decent stats but it's a tossup on whether or not I'll get a good second blessing. the perks are probably not great

[frank ether]

I mean you either get deadly accurate on next upgrade or you kinda brick it

[prime vault]

yeah, bit of a gamble

[frank ether]

I'd rather unlock that headhunter 3 and start over

[keen sedge]

darktide weapons is like gambling

would be easier if plasteel SPAWNED MORE OFTEN

[dusk idol]

i need more apac gamers to run some games with me

[arctic hull]

far out

not a single T4 perk/blessing that i want

gonna have to sell

[keen sedge]

apac?

[dusk idol]

australian and pacific asia

[leaden skiff]

Infantry las or hellbore and what model?

[keen sedge]

helborne has more swag

use the mk2 helborne

[quick burrow]

but if u use the mk4 inf lasgun with the full auto mod you to can have super soaker

[gusty bison]

Helbore is harder to learn and use but has more potential

[keen sedge]

me when i find using the bayonet is more useful than shooting the actual gun

[karmic musk]

So guys once PSword 6 is inevitably nerfed, what new main melee you gonna use?

[gusty bison]

The gun pew is also good tbh

One of the hardest hitters around

But ye the bayo slaps

[ivory rock]

Perks a brick butttt Im happy w this for now

[quick burrow]

change infernus to dead accurate and u got urself a gun

[slow spade]

MK3 lmao

[quick burrow]

just run the chainsword like a man

[slow spade]

Will never understand why people use Infernus on guns that kill in less than a second

[sharp brook]

So I’m rocking an MGIV lasgun and chain sword. In Damnation when a bunch of carapace appears I’m shooting BBs and swinging a wet noodle. Even with Krak grenades I have to do a huge amount of work if I’m trying to do some respectable damage. Apart from autoguns, what can I use to help my team kill these things?

[slow spade]

Switch to power sword

[sharp brook]

Shame because I like the chainsword.

[slow spade]

It does "notable dps" to carapace

[quick burrow]

save kraks for bulwark land head shots

[slow spade]

Obligatory use plasma, revolver, or Helbore as well

[frank ether]

d.claw

[quick burrow]

or something like that actually shreds carpace if u shoot the head

[frank ether]

till dclaw is also nerfed

vet can't have good things

cause someone will scream its overpowered

[hallow tulip]

what should i be focusing on as veteran? coming from pysker

[slow spade]

Vet at least has Shout

[wanton dawn]

Ps6

[slow spade]

Killing elites and specialists

[wanton dawn]

Maybe ps3

[slow spade]

No other class can kill as many elites and specialists as Vet nor as safely as Vet

[gusty bison]

Vet atm is the best elite and specialist killer outside of melee range

Even assail psyker is slower

Albeit assail psyker requires less aim xD

[slow spade]

Assail psyker was always slower

[flint lake]

Maybe.

[quick burrow]

revolver vet with reload speed perk is somethin else

[wanton dawn]

Did not matter in p13

[gusty bison]

Tbh revolver vet doesnt even need reload speed

Cos u never need to reload

Ever

[slow spade]

It did on Auric

[wanton dawn]

Oh no it did not

[slow spade]

But yeah heresy and below it didn't

[flint lake]

Revolver vet is crazy with M’sF

[slow spade]

Hard disagree with all the shitty psykers trying to bank on assail to bail them out

[flint lake]

Revolver headshots will delete anything

[wanton dawn]

You dont measure performance by comparing lower end and higher end of the spectrum

[slow spade]

Judging from the stats, it didn't work out lol

[slow spade]

Yeah I measure from what I see

And what I saw was shit

[gusty bison]

Define respectable damage.

Cos a chainsword can do fine with the right blessings.

The lasgun is ok when used properly as well

Like u aint top fragging but thats not the point

[wanton dawn]

I saw much more failure from vet than psyker in auric at comparable level

[slow spade]

Carapace horde is not gentle on the humble chainsword/lasgun user

[flint lake]

The plasma and revolver ruined lasguns for me

[gusty bison]

He uses kraks, he's fine

Krak to the face followed by a revved heavy into another staggered crusher

[slow spade]

Not enough in practice

[flint lake]

I can’t stand having to get more than 1 headshot to kill anything now.

[wanton dawn]

At same lvl, psyker were absurd at all besides monstro. Though tbf void was stronger

[frank ether]

vet has to aim, psyker does not

also single target vs AoE

[gusty bison]

The point is to use krak to kill one crusher and open the others up for heavy chsword revs

[wanton dawn]

Talking about p13

[frank ether]

nothing changes for psyker

they still dont have to aim

[gusty bison]

Cos chsword shreds crushers if u have the opening to rev it

[wanton dawn]

Yeah but atm vet has comparable dmg

[slow spade]

Or you just kill them in 2-3 swings

[frank ether]

and vet has to aim under even harder conditions with AI changes

[slow spade]

Far safer and easier

[frank ether]

your stupid assail shard or smite doesnt give a shit about skateboarding dog

[slow spade]

Asks for advice -> receives advice

[frank ether]

you can't just look at assail having projectile travel vs vet gun being hipfire and declare that vet best

[gusty bison]

Psword is also a more difficult weapon to use well tbf

[slow spade]

And chainsword doesn't compete with psword vs carapace

[gusty bison]

Counterpoint.

Plozma

[wanton dawn]

Nobody did that though 🤷

[frank ether]

I'll agree with that kind of argument when psyker has to put effort into aiming their abilities

till they do its a moot point for me

[wanton dawn]

You kinda are arguing against a strawman

[frank ether]

Its only an argument if I care about what anyone else has to say

[wanton dawn]

Touché

[frank ether]

I'm just here to state my unfiltered dogshit opinion

or maybe I'm just baiting

unless?

[frank ether]

oh yea

sometimes I forget

plasma exist

I dont mind it but silly gun for sure

what are walls anyways

[slow spade]

Bombers deserve plasma

[wanton dawn]

Current plasma vet might hold a candle to p12 bolter vet

[delicate moat]

pls no more carnival

[fathom grail]

Moar

[wanton dawn]

Cant wait for plasma to receive 4 indirect nerf to transform it into a weakspot weapon !

[slow spade]

Its funny seeing how fast people get downed trying to do the 2nd phase of Carnival's finale

[wanton dawn]

Bolterized

[frank ether]

make it so its breakpoints are tied to having marksman keystone

[delicate moat]

bruh this is 5/5 qp lobbies into carnival

[frank ether]

15 stacks or bust

[slow spade]

Oh I might start doing qps more then

[slow spade]

Carnival is easy cash

I've spent 1.2m dockets trying to get a better columbus

[hallow tulip]

having played both vet and pysker now, it feels like psyker does everything

slightly better

[slow spade]

What's another 1.2m UwU

[karmic musk]

Having a Psyker around will also reduce Vet effectiveness, the Soulblaze fx

[slow spade]

Iconic, as I think psyker is probably the weakest class atm

[wanton dawn]

I finish carnival only twice. The rest is server crash, memory leaks or game dropped

[slow spade]

Rip

[frank ether]

vet effectiveness tied to the alignment of the planets

[slow spade]

Carnival is fucked somewhere

[frank ether]

will the map you play have good visibility

will there be a psyker

are there fire effects?

fire smoke?

[hallow tulip]

this is me playing vet currently. it just constantly feels like im hamstringed on what i can do

[slow spade]

90% of all player drops for me are on Carnival

[karmic musk]

Are there Ogryns?

[wanton dawn]

Vet has good option but it is very volatile and it is easy to make a build that sucks

[frank ether]

don't forget the stealth crusher that teleports behind you the moment you ads and hit volley fire

[wanton dawn]

Right now ppl are into the "take every thoughness regen node" phase

[hallow tulip]

ya it feels very niched, like you become a god at killing 1 specific enemy, but not much else

[slow spade]

To be fair, ET gives damage resist and Target Down is a team wide

[frank ether]

you can play volley fire without every toughness DR talent/node

I won't

[slow spade]

I can see why people would take those

[wanton dawn]

Vet best build kills everything equally.

[slow spade]

Wtf lol

[wanton dawn]

It is not taking 1 or 2. It is taking 4 nodes !

[slow spade]

You choose what you're good at lol

[gusty bison]

And tbf vet isnt particularly bad at anything

[hallow tulip]

this ya, feels very neutral

[slow spade]

If you mean Target Down, team-wide is pretty good

[gusty bison]

Its not like psykers where if they dont take a gun they kinda just twiddle their thumbs vs bosses

[slow spade]

Vets are the best elite and specialists killers

[wanton dawn]

I mean ck, ofb, exhausting takedown and target down

And voc

[gusty bison]

And can be the best monster killers atm

[slow spade]

Its not hard to guess what role to aim for

[gusty bison]

But thats a niche build

[slow spade]

Oh I see

[gusty bison]

Ah yes the full send.

Did this on my plasma. Felt immortal lmao

[slow spade]

Its also funny seeing people take those nodes then not use 3 toughness curios

Takes the toughness regen nodes -> doesn't stack toughness -> "why am I squishy"

[potent iris]

literally the main weakness of vet rn is point bloat

[slow spade]

Indeed

[wanton dawn]

A yellow man ! Flee !

[potent iris]

if a couple of tax nodes could get freed up more builds would be possible/easier to do

[slow spade]

Vets also tend to bitch rather actually try new things

[wanton dawn]

But yeah, vet is limiting to build

[hallow tulip]

this, its painful

[slow spade]

"Wow I have ET, Iron Will, and Close Formation. Better take hp curios"

[potent iris]

like I can make vet top scoreboards rn no worries but I really do not enjoy working with the skill tree when making a build lol

[wanton dawn]

P14 had more variety

[potent iris]

yee

[slow spade]

All my builds are the same tree but with a different gun

Thank you Fatshark

[gusty bison]

Id say P15 has more power in it. But P14 deffo had more variety

[potent iris]

I've got one for each keystone but ngl it's mostly just columnus gaming

[slow spade]

Yeah my build is stronger

But its the same build all the time lol

[gusty bison]

I have a few different builds but...

[slow spade]

Except for Helbore

[wanton dawn]

P14 i did not feel bad bringing lawbringer in maelstrom

[gusty bison]

The general gist is the same

Like if im going for a keystone all builds for that keystone are basically the same

[slow spade]

Ignoring the red arrow, 4 of my loadouts have this exact layout

Except one of them has Deadshot instead

[gusty bison]

And if im not going for a keystone im grabbing all the good shallow nodrs anyway so it looks all the same

[wanton dawn]

Took less than 1 week to solve vet tree

[slow spade]

Indeed lol

I can't stop using the support build Vet

So many buffs 😩

[wanton dawn]

Which happens to be the best dmg build if you arz solo vet

[slow spade]

Anmo regen, toughness and stam regen, damage, and max toughness

If an ally goes down, its skill issue UwU

[slow spade]

Oh I'm surprised, I thought it'd be some weapon specialist build with revolver + caxe/psword

[wanton dawn]

Well, it increase your team dmg by almost an extra player

[slow spade]

Ah

[gusty bison]

Overall damage as opposed to personal dmg

XD

[wanton dawn]

Still pretty good dmg wise

[slow spade]

Its funny seeing how fast bosses die with a ping build

Especially if there's an Ogryn

[wanton dawn]

You get 600k instead of 800k

[gusty bison]

I think my most "unique" build is my bolter build

[slow spade]

Plague Ogryn spawn? Immediate it takes +72% additional damage (if Ogryn is taunt)

[delicate estuary]

ping builds are nice until you meet that one person that is spam pinging

first barrel I see

out the map

[slow spade]

Most people don't ping anyways

Then have the audacity to bitch when I don't help them

[dusty ferry]

I am a pinguin
Penguin who pings

[slow spade]

I prefer the ping spammers personally

[delicate estuary]

I dont

game already has audio issues

last thing I need is a dumbass nonstop pinging

[slow spade]

While on my end, the last thing I need is a dumbass not pinging

[prime vault]

If you're anything but the new ping keystone, just map your shoot button to the tag button

[slow spade]

Funny times in darktide

[delicate estuary]

-> exit mission

cause there is no limit on pings currently

so people just ping non stop

[slow spade]

Its funny seeing on Purg psykers

And surge psykers

[wanton dawn]

And void psykers

[slow spade]

They have a longer kill time so they just keep pinging constantly lol

[dusty ferry]

Surge psykers panicking as they keep ragers at bay hoping for teammates to kill them

[wanton dawn]

Saving ppl swarmed by rager is never not fun

[slow spade]

Indeed, had one "not so bright" smite psyker that kept running off

Just kept pinging constantly but plasma gun could wallbang so it was ok 💪

[dusty ferry]

I appreciate smite psykers but sometimes some of them just.. don't utilize it to help dealing with hordes

[delicate estuary]

yea cause you cant deal with hordes with surge

[slow spade]

I had an interesting smite psyker that never used it on hordes

[delicate estuary]

lets differentiate smite

from surge

[slow spade]

Used illisius for hordes (idk name)

[delicate estuary]

2 very different things

[slow spade]

And used smite to stunlock patrols

[dusty ferry]

I mean smite

Sorry I am learning psykers slowly

[slow spade]

Was certainly an interesting playstyle

[fathom grail]

I hope they buff the ping keystone to have a bigger symbol and a louder ping

And brighter tag

[slow spade]

My friend was hoping for an AOE tag for stuff like patrols

[dusty ferry]

pings enemy FRACKING END EM

[slow spade]

Indeed, its funny when you get downed and just ping the guy that downed you

"Fuck this guy get him"

[dusty ferry]

I love that

[delicate estuary]

yes its very funny when I get downed and then press the X button enough times that makes the lobby RQ

not sure why they even added that feature

[slow spade]

Imagine being a vet that lets enemies live enough to be pinged

Couldn't be me

[karmic musk]

Confirmed Kill, Grenade Stockpile and/or Survivalist every build

[slow spade]

💪💪💪

I've been messing with dropping Confirmed Kill for ET on some autogun and lasgun builds

Tbh it only made me realize how often I use melee to kill elites

"Oh right ET doesn't work with melee"

[prime vault]

I do ping trappers and snipers if I'm downed, 'cuz they can be tricky to see through the noise sometimes

[midnight patrol]

Feels good to have been the Vet officer in a full Oggy squad, and I protecced my Big Mans

[slow spade]

Always ping them

[dusty ferry]

Recently I have been using executioner's stance and IAG on my vet, it has been a danger for all my fellow ranged enemies

[slow spade]

Fuck trappers and snipers

[prime vault]

well sure, but sometimes they got me before I properly knew they were there

[midnight patrol]

lasgun I lose a bit of stopping power, but I seem to do overall better with a well rolled one compared to an equally capable headhunter

[slow spade]

Can still ping them

Mark them for death comrade

[dusty ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-bnuuy-steals-your-bunny-steals-your-bnuuy-gif-26209043

with that I hide

my bnuyy now

[prime vault]

that's my point. if I get jumped by them I ping them so that people can clear them before getting me back up

[karmic musk]

I just ping every fker I see

[slow spade]

Lasgun only really suffers vs bosses, it'll work well on everything else

[slow spade]

Ah I see

[karmic musk]

Scab Ragers getting tickled

[midnight patrol]

Ironically the ones that trouble me the most are scab gunners and ragers

[slow spade]

I just like getting revenge in any way that I can UwU

[midnight patrol]

Because their flak armour makes a massive difference in breakpoints

Bosses melt to constant lasgun fire as well as any boolet

[slow spade]

That's why we run Deadshot + Deadly Accurate + Headhunter 💪💪💪

[slow spade]

Ah I use the ping build so I have rending + ping damge bonus for me

[wanton dawn]

Somebody mentioned that limbsplitter buff applies to bayonnet

[midnight patrol]

But the sheer stopping power on anything maniac makes it worth it lol

[slow spade]

Flak is usually a non-issue beyond the maulers

[wanton dawn]

Somebody can confirm ?

[midnight patrol]

With headshots? Sure I need usually two, maybe three shots compared to a Vraks mk7's one or at most two

But I feel like I gain a lot more flexiblity and ammo spamming

So eh, I'll keep working on it and see if its nicer to me

[wanton dawn]

I am going to test when am back from work anyway

[slow spade]

You can mag dump into hordes with lasgun and be fine which is comfy

[midnight patrol]

Yeah, the mg1a has some cleave on non flak and carapace infantry

[slow spade]

I don't use MK1 or Mk2 Helbore so no clue on the bayonet memes

Apparently its pretty good?

Though doesn't seem good enough to replace Psword or Caxe

[midnight patrol]

Current roll I'm messin around with

[marsh cargo]

can anyone help me get the on overwatch penance

[wanton dawn]

Well, 60% power buff might make it pretty gooder

[slow spade]

As intended UwU

[midnight patrol]

It does seem to do some real magic on crushers though

onslaught triggering with burn stacks and all

[fair jay]

It’s very good. It’s good enough to replace caxe imo

I don’t know how many it actually cleaves but it feels like at least 3 so it’s not bad at horde clear. But it’s got a small hurtbox

[sharp ember]

it's probably the unarmored groaners you're shooting, who have a mass of like 0.75, so any gun will pierce at least 1 of them

[midnight patrol]

Yeah, which is more than fine

[slow spade]

Fuck I need +30% weakspot to instant kill mutants :c

[slow spade]

Ah ok, Helbore relevant again

[midnight patrol]

Sometimes I so happen to be in the perfect spot to thin out a horde at 30 meters away while taking down elites, that kinda thing

[slow spade]

Though not in the way I expected lol

[sharp ember]

mk1 mk2 bayonets rock

[plush dragon]

tag keystone

[sharp ember]

if they trickle in a few at a time, you can just poke them as they come

[fair jay]

Helbore still takes some time to pull out but at least you can hold onto the gun and not pull out melee so long as you can dodge

[sharp ember]

stunlocks ragers and maulers too

[slow spade]

Indeed, but trying a Weapon Specialist build

[plush dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

[fair jay]

Yeah the bayonet stagger feels about the same as dueling sword alt attack so it probably stuns crushers too on head hit

[plush dragon]

infantry autogun 5 with finesse combat v axe or devils claw cleave

then aggripina and quality control build

[slow spade]

Trying out Revolver + Psword for pure glass

Either I die or the enemy dies UwU

No in-between

[sharp ember]

in a previous match, i started reviving a teammate and a dog pounced and went over my head because i was bent down, and it pounced someone else

[slow spade]

Hopefully the crit boost means I don't need surgical or some shit to crit

[wanton dawn]

If limbsplitter works am gonna do a hb2 shovel meme

[slow spade]

Hadron pls...

[fair jay]

In one game someone dodged a hound on the map with the huge bridge.

The hound fell Into the abyss and since I tagged it we got to see it shrink as it fell forever

[frank ether]

it should work

but why not do axe

[slow spade]

Always funny when a small elevation difference means the dog just smacks into you but just falls down instead

[frank ether]

you can have it with bromentum on axe

[median belfry]

does the autopistol still fuck, guardsfellas?

[frank ether]

shredder? lame

[flint garden]

doggo space mission

[slow spade]

Shredder pistol is just worse columbus now sadly

[frank ether]

nah fuck it

[drowsy leaf]

they fucked with its armor value bonuses i think, so now it feels very meh

[frank ether]

was a boring ass gun

[fair jay]

Apparently the zealot still makes shredder work well with momentum attack speed boost

[median belfry]

real? damn. I liked the uzi vibes.

[sharp ember]

pinning fire is dead, so autopistol is dead

[frank ledge]

Even zealot gets better use out of Columnus

[drowsy leaf]

you could go for the weapon master key stone to get the fire rate boost with auto pistol for meme speed

[fair jay]

My scion gun psyker uses columns

[frank ether]

It should not outdps any of the iags to begin with

[drowsy leaf]

take the 2.5% brittleness per hit up to 16 stacks to negate armor

[frank ether]

its a fast swap spray n pray gun

[frank ledge]

Autopistol should be buffed to be a ranged knife

[drowsy leaf]

will make a build for vet using it to meme

[fair jay]

The recoil on it is insane lol

[junior needle]

I used it a couple times and it felt like dogshit, even with an optimal (at least pre nerf) setup

[sharp ember]

columnus even has slightly more ammo nowadays, while being capable of shooting straight and having much larger weakspot damage

[median belfry]

sadge.

[fair jay]

Columns is satisfying to use just because its recoil is so nuts

[junior needle]

While also having way better dps

[valid bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/utopia-gif-21647156

[fair jay]

And my columns has like 78% stability