veteran-class

[glacial onyx]

sisters

[placid portal]

well it means they are valuable asset to deploy in the most worst case scenarios

[weak hamlet]

Yeah them too

[placid portal]

[wheat violet]

What was that planet full of Rambo like guardsman?

[glacial onyx]

catachan

[zinc shoal]

[placid portal]

That planet had a daemon/chaos incursion

[zinc shoal]

Atleast it wasn’t a room full a dozen or so gunners

[wheat violet]

They use Cadia as an insult.

[placid portal]

now it didn't

[delicate moat]

ngl i decided "yep they are going to die" when i saw the room

[zinc shoal]

[placid portal]

tbf Catachan do be built different

the damn planet survived daemon incursion

[wheat violet]

Yeah. When you actualy prefere being in the Guard than to live on your planet.

[wheat violet]

Didnt the plants eat the deamons?

[placid portal]

Cadians could spawncamp the Daemons but catachan could instantly die just from existing

[placid portal]

Yee

[untold mulch]

Catachan just doesn't gives a kark

[wheat violet]

Wasnt there like a theory that the planet was infested by nids and forgotten by the hivemind?

[untold mulch]

The planet lets you live there

[glacial onyx]

there is one creature that is theorized to be a nid

[placid portal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/887459780162097222/1122790371093655612/29483919-B537-406D-B05D-D8C69E5E0814.gif

the catachan devil right?

[whole moon]

someone posted this interraction last night, its savage https://youtu.be/x2yx7gdPyB0?si=J3EUyrSdN-J21NMt

[untold mulch]

I am mostly sure Nids attacked

and were spat out

[glacial onyx]

yeah

[wheat violet]

Would say that it wants to eat you instead

[delicate moat]

ever since i tried less hard to save people in pubs, it helped myself to survive

[untold mulch]

Professional murdered Cadian there

[placid portal]

ahh loose cannon & cutthroat conversation in beta

[weak hamlet]

I wish we'd see other chaos gods in tide games. But to be fair, slaanesh would just make us go insane even before the mission starts, tzeentch would teleport us into outer space and khorne is boring and bland. So I'm fine with only nurgle.

[untold mulch]

Thats for the weak ones

[wheat violet]

One of the best interactions

[untold mulch]

If you don't look like Rambo at age 8

you won't survive Catachan

[placid portal]

tbh cadians do get kinda high in the bureaucracy with high praise after the fall of cadia

[glacial onyx]

nurgle is the one that gives us hordes of zombies, and the cultists of the other gods are pretty interchangable

[gaunt delta]

You have the ESRB to tangle with. It’s nice that they leaned Tzeentchian in Boltgun

[raw turtle]

whats are the strenghts of each power sword? 3 vs 6? when to choose one over the other? they seem preety much the same to me.

[weak hamlet]

Esrb ?

[zinc shoal]

Rating

[gaunt delta]

But Slaanesh is basically a no-go ratings-wise

[placid portal]

mk6 can powerup cancel with blocking and has a strikedown in light chain
mk3 can powerup during a sprint

[weak hamlet]

3 has better horde clear but 6 has better hvt damage and already does horde clear fine. Always use the 6.

[glacial onyx]

wait i can powerup cancel my mk3 too, i usually cut the animation short and push into a heavy

[untold mulch]

Slaanesh can be worked around, but I see why is always tiptoed around

[placid portal]

mk6 got that nutty stab on push attack to do a lethal push attack light combo

[gaunt delta]

“Entertainment Software Rating Board” the no-fun police actually it was set up after Congress threatened to outlaw violent video games after DOOM in the mid 90s

[placid portal]

[wheat violet]

I am just going with the idea of the Director being Tzeentch himself after some of the BS in Auric Malestorm.

[placid portal]

Reminds of the time "Go kill your friends" from guilty gear

[whole moon]

The mk6 moveset lends itself to the mobs you encounter better, the light sweeps is better time/damage investment than the 3s heavies, the 6s heavy strikes are single target strikedown which is better for bosses and elites than the 3s light single target strikedowns too

[weak hamlet]

On the 6 heavies are horizontal. The only strikedown is light 4

[strange grove]

can a krak kill a crusher on damn w/o the tinkerer node?

[zealous wyvern]

slaanesh is completely fine. just cover the female breast in a cup and show the male chest half

seriously

slaanesh units are NOT porn

some have tits showing but you can hide them easily without taking away from the experience in a game like darktide

[weak hamlet]

The main appeal for the mk6 is doing push attack stab into light strikedown. It's one of the fastest killing single target attacks in the game. It does make it so you need power cycler with that sword. Can't be used without it.

[zealous wyvern]

zombie mobs would just be pleasure slaves i guess who are in a drug rush and enjoy pain

[glacial onyx]

tit mod tit mod

[whole moon]

you are correct, they just 'feel' more diagonal. Was this something changed? I do remember a more pronounced diagonal

[glacial onyx]

thats all power swords though

[zealous wyvern]

slaanesh imo is actually the most interesting of the other chaos gods for darktide. khorne would obviously work but i think slaanesh is more interesting since it is not just "fight fight fight"

[weak hamlet]

Yeah it's somewhat diagonal, but it feels like horizontal to me

[topaz lance]

mow down 1000s of enemies
totally fine
show one (1) female nipple
OMG ADULTS ONLY!!!!

This will never not be bizarre to me.

[strange grove]

thats nurgle tho

[weak hamlet]

I never use power sword heavies, just light for groups and PA for singles

[zealous wyvern]

i said "the other chaos gods"

as in

[strange grove]

oh lol missed that

[zealous wyvern]

which other god i would find the most interesting now that nurgle is in

people always act like slaanesh has to have porn everywhere

desire has so much more to offer than just sex

but i guess that is the one people look for

[weak hamlet]

We have Tzeentch in Boltgun
Khorne and interesting don't belong in the same sentence
The only one remaining is Slaanesh

[zealous wyvern]

glory, riches, gluttony, beauty

i bet you could even make innocence a slaanesh thing

i think khorne and slaanesh would both fit into darktide gameplay if done right

but i do not see how it would make sense to bring another chaos god there tbh

[weak hamlet]

Khorne would fit, he's just fucking boring

[zealous wyvern]

moebians are clearly pretty into nurgle

i am sure you could make khorne fun

play with the theme

the troops would just be the same type but with slightly changed cosmetics

new bosses would be cool

[glacial onyx]

oops all ragers

[placid portal]

Good heavens

[zealous wyvern]

oh no i am out

[woeful ibex]

is the server down?

[placid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/3rd-strike-street-fighter_3-parry-parries-parry-god-gif-23372090

[woeful ibex]

keep getting error 4002 and 2014

[untold mulch]

25+ rager spawn is Khorne intervention

[placid portal]

Definitely

THE CHAOS GODS ARE INTERVENING IN TERTIUM

[glacial onyx]

maybe one day the ragers will finally make that noise our characters won't shut up about

[untold mulch]

Parry this mf

Proceeds to parry that

[placid portal]

Devil claw mains:

[untold mulch]

When the 4meter tall Plague Ogryn with the kinetic force to ram an entire SM squad to smitherrings appears

[lilac eagle]

I feel like righty is better

[untold mulch]

but the Vet has a Dclaw

[placid portal]

nay left is better

[glacial onyx]

both crap, hold out for 370+

[untold mulch]

Left is better, but the perks are a ehhhhhhh

[placid portal]

Still fixable

Deady accurate is still possible

[lilac eagle]

I have been spaaaamming these things

[placid portal]

tbf some 350 weapons have goated stat spread

[glacial onyx]

ooh actually take the one with headhunter and then nab the blessing when you get a better one

[placid portal]

he already has lvl 4

it's modded in

[glacial onyx]

oh duh lmao

[lilac eagle]

Mfer in a different game over there

[placid portal]

deadly accurate + headhunter do be a bread butter combo for Kantrael

[hazy comet]

idk how i feel about this

[lilac eagle]

I've got DA 3 but not 4 yet

[placid portal]

Good enough

Still beeg

lvl3 is 90% and lvl4 is 100%

10% diff

[lilac eagle]

Not that big actually

90 feels fucking huge tho

Goddamn

[placid portal]

ye kantrael got mad finesse multipliers

I think you can reach 1k

[lilac eagle]

It is probably my favourite weapon, so happy to hear that

[placid portal]

though M1A imo is really good now as well

[glacial onyx]

fr?

[placid portal]

Faster & more stable firing

ye

[glacial onyx]

can i one tap specials with it like the mg12?

[placid portal]

M1A & M4 got a huge dmg buff

[lilac eagle]

Remind me what those are

The autorifles yeh?

[glacial onyx]

green lasgun

[lilac eagle]

Oh

[placid portal]

green and blue

Lasguns

[lilac eagle]

Blues fun for the fire rate

[placid portal]

Green has 220s which makes new breakpoints

[lilac eagle]

If they lowered the recoil then its just Recon Lite

[placid portal]

Blue still has mad recoil if you go fast firerate

M1A is probs better for reliablity of firerate

[glacial onyx]

yeah but can you one tap gunners, trappers, shotgunners, etc in the head with the m1?

[placid portal]

depends

[lilac eagle]

I like the beeg damage numbers

So brown all day

[gleaming turtle]

What do you guys put on your shovels?

[placid portal]

Uncanny and decimator is a good pick

though Take a swing is a big Weakpoint stonks

[wheat violet]

Heretic blood

[gleaming turtle]

What about them perks?

[placid portal]

I prefer annointing mine with soil of Terra

[placid portal]

Flak Maniac is aight but Flack Unarmored is ok too imo

[glacial onyx]

heretic- fuck

someone beat me to it

[placid portal]

I like using those rare terran soil for annointment

Really good shit

[delicate moat]

+5% ordo, +10% respect

[placid portal]

Love during the early days of Darktide Loose cannon does some info gathering via trading valuable stuff and alcohol

I miss those quotes

Apparently the pilot is really good at gambling

[nimble sentinel]

she's real good at CHEATING

[placid portal]

Well gotta play along else she'll drop us in a middle of skyfire defense system

[delicate moat]

fk the small room my team was in had 3 uninvited weakened monstrosities come to party

[placid portal]

Apply Exe Stance Boltgun Magdump

is pinning fire + perk dmg modifier multiplicitive dmg boost?

🤔

[wet moon]

doing a stealth/melee vet should i have T3 dumdum or T4 raking fire?

[placid portal]

Dum dum is probs a reliable blessing

[dusty ferry]

Bwos..?

[nimble sentinel]

it is the build to take advantage of raking fire tho

[dusty ferry]

Melk is selling btw

[wet moon]

like it's funny

[placid portal]

Scrap for decimator

[wet moon]

that first dmg hurts but yeah take deci

[placid portal]

First target is kinda important for Shovel

[wet moon]

put deci and uncanny on a good stat roll and youll be laughing

[dusty ferry]

Oh nice

Then I shall take it for deci

[placid portal]

Uncanny + take a swing

[dusty ferry]

What is usually the shovel dump stat though

mobility?

or defences?

[wet moon]

defences imo

[placid portal]

Defense/mobility

[dusty ferry]

Ah okay

[wet moon]

mobility is nice for more/bigger dodges

[placid portal]

mobility does affect sprint speed

it's funny how thrust stacks build kinda fast for shovel bc the thrust stack builds up before you even pull back the shovel

[glacial onyx]

i don't like Thrust, i don't got time to fully charge a heavy attack

[wet moon]

thrust is great on two things

antax mk5, and thunder hammer

that's it

antax lets you 4 shot crushers, hammer is self explanatory

[placid portal]

The bonkening is big money

[glacial onyx]

the shovel's best feature is the noise it makes on heavy attacks

[placid portal]

Shovel is really good at push a path

ngl

[glacial onyx]

yeah

but still what i said holds true

[weak hamlet]

And I like it for it but I kinda wish it was better at killing enemies too

[strange grove]

shovel can stunlock two crushers if you are fast enough

[placid portal]

really helpful when you need to make a breakthrough

[strange grove]

i like it better than the ps6

just stagger on special attacks to the head

[glacial onyx]

*donk*

[strange grove]

here is mine

can wreck maniacs if you are lucky enough to hit his small as head with special attack

[glacial onyx]

based i want those blessings

[placid portal]

Gotta love how t4 blessing for skullcrusher is still broken description

[fleet drift]

think this will be my new gun

too bad that the ammo is very meah

[wet moon]

that lack of ammo HURTS but solid solid

[lilac eagle]

Ammos apparently the dump stat for plasma tho

[untold mulch]

you are losing like 20 ammo

soo 7-8 shots

well, no, 14, because it duplicates

[delicate moat]

holy shit lights out maulers are insane

[untold mulch]

Hurts, yes

[delicate moat]

gave me a heart attack

[untold mulch]

Maulers, Ragers, and Crushers

need better audio

They are too strong in melee range for thier audio not be a clear I AM HERE, AND IS YOUR PROBLEM

[delicate moat]

I didn't hear anything until I got pancaked

[simple crest]

Stealth crushers are peak meme material tho lol

[delicate moat]

this room didn't make any sound before I got pancaked as my teammate dodged into me

[untold mulch]

Look - Nothing

Look away

Crusher with overhead ready to go that appeared out of the warp on my back

peak game design

Why the fuck the game has not a forced no spawn area around coherency

baffles me

[wheat violet]

Tzeentch trickery

[fleet drift]

What Perk and Blessing should I get for my new Plasma gun

[delicate moat]

+1.5 stamina, 15% sprint efficiency

[gusty bison]

Look at. Look away. Look back.

The entire mauler patrol that appeared out of thin air.

[delicate moat]

gets hot is good, pair it with blaze away

[wet moon]

use second gun
Blaze Away instead of gloryhunter

could swap flak for unyielding or put Shattering/Volatile instead of Gets Hot

[gusty bison]

Ngl shit like that is why you dont stop dodging in this game

[wet moon]

but like extra crit chance is nice tbh

blaze away can help you hit M1 breakpoints, shattering impact doesnt seem to impact much in my experience honestly

[delicate moat]

i dodged, but so did my teammate who dodged into where my dodge ended up at

[gusty bison]

Lmao

Ngl

[wheat violet]

And then you get keystone that punishes you for it

[delicate moat]

and then i got flattened

[gusty bison]

Had this happen to me repeatedly in a mission

[delicate moat]

im not even mad, it's just really funny

[gusty bison]

Nah. Just hit heads

Ez

:P

[glacial onyx]

look back, MauLer is there with his chainaxe over his head ready to make you listen to a 10 hour podcast reviewing imperial scriptures

[gusty bison]

Plus u can crouch dodge if u really need to

[untold mulch]

FR

[fleet drift]

think I want to got for 25% flak and swab Gloryhunter for Blaze Away

[wheat violet]

Yeah but like

[wet moon]

you dont need flak for a plasma gun lole

[wheat violet]

There are better perks than the keystones

[gusty bison]

I just pretend the stand still clause doesnt ex-

[gusty bison]

Uh.
Uhhh

[wet moon]

you already 1 shot anything with flak with a charge shot, id say you want the unyielding/carapace for crusher deletion and boss dmg

[gusty bison]

Left one ok fine. I'll agree deadshot is better than left keystone

[delicate moat]

you don't understand, we need those pesky gunners to be 125% dead

[gusty bison]

Middle and right? Naaaaaaah

[untold mulch]

My laspistol doesn't even get close to any keystone

Though middle is good, and right one in revolver is just a bruh

[delicate moat]

just roll with the 4th keystone

[strange grove]

too little love for iags up in here

[wheat violet]

Neither does my helbore.

Also

[wet moon]

agrapinaa infantry is my fav vet gun

[strange grove]

same

[wheat violet]

Granadier Vet is great

[strange grove]

best I could find

[wheat violet]

Nice

[forest maple]

brunt is trolling today

[civic terrace]

thats good

[whole moon]

Get that in case their rework pans out it it gits gud' again

[forest maple]

yeah i got it of course

now to brick it

[gusty bison]

Near perfect roll

[untold mulch]

Dear lord, save that one

[forest maple]

i could tap it one more and get lucky

[hearty panther]

I'd do one more lol

[untold mulch]

OOF

[delicate moat]

[hearty panther]

If you got plas to spare anyway

[untold mulch]

worth a shot ngl

Basically perfect roll in stats

[hearty panther]

I've got so much that any good roll gets a chance at orange

[delicate moat]

too good of a base to not try

[forest maple]

yikes

It got deathspitter T4

[spark helm]

Look if you don't want it we can scrub some credentials and have an account trade. I don't have the patience to grind holiday weekend pubs

Lmai

[forest maple]

Wish i could give it to you

guess i'll slap maniac/flak on it and call it a day

let it rot

[spark helm]

Try it with highlight mid builds

[forest maple]

cause realistically, 6.5% power on that gun is way worse than dum dum

or maybe even infernus

[spark helm]

Do ppl just hate recon lasguns now? I had an okay one but fucked up and burned it

[forest maple]

I have this so i dont really care

[forest maple]

They are not strong at all and eat ammo

[spark helm]

Ah, crit life. I see now

goes back to infantry lasgun maintenance

[forest maple]

haha

[spark helm]

Luv me la

Luv me kantrael

[forest maple]

Also, infantry auto guns are way better if you want something fully automatic

[untold mulch]

Not terrible tbh

[forest maple]

Deathspitter is pretty bad on it

[untold mulch]

not great

[forest maple]

I'm keeping it just in case

[urban adder]

exhilarating fix make vet feel a little better?

[untold mulch]

yeah, I would still use it, but....yeah

Fucking RNG

[untold mulch]

+30% DR

[forest maple]

It doesnt bother me tbh

[untold mulch]

II and VIIa are trash

VId can make work with talent taxes, but you are an ammo hog

for less performance than just using an autogun

[dusty ferry]

Man, IAG Exec pop offs feel too good

[strange grove]

they need to rework the recon guns to be kinda like braced lasguns, close range shredders that stagger like mad

[untold mulch]

Recon really feels like their entire existence was based on

they are las

and they are full auto

thats it

[forest maple]

The nerf they got was so unwaranted. How OP would they have been in this patch even

in this climate

they would be "strong"

[untold mulch]

Oh no they killed 5 crushers in a single line using 20 shots

in gameplay surely they will stand still so much

[glacial onyx]

oh wow they reduced the recoil by a lot

[forest maple]

I mean they nerfed onslaught ... they should have left the crit chain alone

[untold mulch]

imo, they could have just let the shocktrooper talent as it was and crit strings

and VId would have been usable

but no, they panic nerfed

[dusty ferry]

It still has reeek oil but it is manageable

[untold mulch]

Easier for them to just kill the entire weapon line and bother 2+ months later

[glacial onyx]

i tried the infantry autogun once in beta and never touched it again

[dusty ferry]

Well

Then pick it up :3

[topaz lance]

Columnus IAG fun

But yet another weapon I like most without any keystone

[dusty ferry]

Yeah it does not need any keystone to work

It just

stronge

[languid dune]

Doesn't even matter too much with the blessings either, I've just got a decent modifier roll purple Columnus atm with level 3 Punishing Salvo and it still shreds anything bar monsters, maulers or crushers

[dusty ferry]

My Kitness

[delicate moat]

lmao wtf on consignment yard there's a spot u can AFK for the entire duration of the fight

[dusty ferry]

damn

[delicate moat]

apparently if you sit on the boxes in the first train section, nothing knows how to path to you...

fatshark pls fix

[strange grove]

so what happens if all 4 ppl do that?

does anything even spawn in?

[delicate moat]

you get WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA sounds on loop

[delicate moat]

everything spawns, yes, so as soon as u try to take a peek outside the train you will meet 12 snipers, 8 bombers, 5 mutants, 4 dogs and 6 flamers. They just don't know how to get to you

[strange grove]

Sounds fun 😛

[delicate moat]

I swear fatshark needs to tone down how loud mutants are

yes, I understand WAAAA is a good warning, but not when WAAAA x10 at max volume

[raw turtle]

Imagine a female mutant

Instead of WAAAAAAA it would be “STOP PLAAAAAAAAYING” “Waaaaaaaaaaaash Dishesssss”

[whole moon]

lol I think someone needs to pull their weight around the house a bit more 😛

[topaz lance]

Casual sexism in my video game discord? It's more likely than you think!

[raw turtle]

We Cant even do jokes anymore nowadays. Ppl are sensitive

[topaz lance]

I am not offended. You're just not funny.

[delicate moat]

jokes are supposed to be funny tbh

[devout atlas]

what's the most underrated ranged and melee weapons in your guys opinions?

[whole moon]

people who never used the laspistol seem to dismiss it out of hand for some reason

was the same w the shredder too

[devout atlas]

bro darktide is M rated go back to kindergarten with that shit

[raw turtle]

Hahahaa ppl get offended too easly. Its M rated and ppl cant stand a mutant screaming. Ok

Relax

[pure chasm]

sorry i gotta pitch in on this one, ill never understand using "i hate my wife" as a joke

[abstract stream]

Baby axes and laspistol

[delicate moat]

tacaxes

[abstract stream]

Both feel good to use and are not even remotely as shit as they claim

[topaz lance]

Is shredder good in this patch? I guess IAGs have taken the spot.

[pliant spire]

Any of this worth re blessing and upgrading?

[topaz lance]

Revolver for sure. Maniac perk and Hand Cannon blessing.
Badabing, one shot anything not carapace (or a mutant ahem; wait no actually you can under exe stance :D).

[pure chasm]

revolver my beloved

[topaz lance]

That columnus probably shreds everything already, but Dumdum is a good blessing to put on it.

[topaz lance]

For chainsword, go with rampage + wrath/savage sweep

Seems good for cc

[delicate moat]

1. Catachan mk 4: yes; perks to flak/maniac
2. Powersword mk 3: yes; elite to maniac, supercharge to power cycler 4
3. Assault chainsword: yes, perks to flak/maniac
4. MG 12: maybe, poxwalker to flak, infernus to head hunter
5. Laspistol: sure, ranged perk to unyielding (maybe), between the eyes to infernus
6. Kantrael: no, perks/blessings don't have enough good slots
7. Revolver: crucian roulette to hand cannon, reload speed to carapace or something
8. Columnus V: not ideal, you probably want something like flak/maniac + dumdum/death spitter or something, although base columnus is still pretty good
9. V1d recon lasgun: not ideal, want flak/maniac + headhunter/infernus

[topaz lance]

Ah damn yeah didn't see the perks on the columnus, not ideal indeed

[untold mulch]

Damn, I am so used to lasguns

Recoil of Autoguns kick me

[bold sierra]

recoil on agripinaa mk1 and colunus mk5 aren't too bad

[drowsy sluice]

If I have a powersword that naturalled power cycler 3 but not ideal perks, is it bricked?

[bold sierra]

I mean do you have power cycler 3

if not just surrender it

[delicate moat]

still good as a transition sword while u look for a better one

[drowsy sluice]

I dont have pc3 but it is currently the best i have

Perks were weakspot damage and block efficiency iirc

[obtuse dawn]

It's fine

[bold sierra]

can always roll for more in the shop

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah, play some games, check the shop and melk

[untold mulch]

I am seeing agri 1 being kinda nice

[bold sierra]

its my fav autogun

[obtuse dawn]

Any Psword will kill chaff very very well, and the difference between a perfect sword and an average sword isn't that steep

[untold mulch]

I am using the "PewPew" mod to make it all look and sound like las

[bold sierra]

my problem with power sword is that

it isn't shovel

shovel is just

yea

shovel

[sharp ember]

chain shovel when

[delicate moat]

power shovel gaming

[wanton dawn]

For PS sword PC4 is the top priority bar none

[topaz lance]

Spade when

Spade OP

[clear lark]

what do change on this : (

[wanton dawn]

For 2nd blessing most stuff is fine. Sunder might be harder to get cuz it is t4 only

[delicate moat]

oh yes melee maelstrom my beloved

[wanton dawn]

For perks a lot of stuff works

[bold sierra]

get dumdum instead of fire frenzy

[delicate moat]

unarmored to flak

[bold sierra]

^

[sharp ember]

melee maelstrom is up? sick

[bold sierra]

I don't like fire frenzy's close damage limitation

[delicate moat]

[wanton dawn]

Rofl, melee maelstrom is the most popular

[delicate moat]

ranged maelstrom is just normal maelstrom

[untold mulch]

After trying all autoguns

Mine too

[hazy comet]

is this shit?

[bold sierra]

needs more stopping power

but it'd work

[hazy comet]

goddamnit

[bold sierra]

Stopping power is what lets you say "no fuck off" to crushers

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[untold mulch]

To be more precise

[bold sierra]

me when I whip out weapons specialist plasma gun

[untold mulch]

Stopping Power decides your % of damage that goes through armor

I think

[bold sierra]

yeah

[hazy comet]

to the trash then

not gona waste my plasteel

[sharp ember]

not useless tbh, i guess check if it makes crushers barely survive with a sliver of hp

[delicate moat]

baby crushers/maulers when

[whole moon]

yeah IAGs have surpassed em (which tbf imo they should) I still like running around with a shredder when I want to feel like SpecOps

[delicate moat]

half ur height but deals full dmg

[bold sierra]

me n the boys with rending crit revolvers

[clear lark]

im missing 23 dmg

[clear lark]

with +25 flak

[bold sierra]

[serene sage]

The absolute state of this game

[clear lark]

no weakspot talent or anything

6 dmg away with a +5% ranged dmg node

so sad

[bold sierra]

itll be fine just shoot them again

[clear lark]

you used to be able to one shot them if you reached 78 in both dmg and stopping power

stalkers to the head at least

[topaz lance]

based

[serene sage]

Do you think they'll touch the Columnus next patch?

[sharp ember]

which one

[south garnet]

these can be funny, but it really has to be parody

[devout atlas]

can't speak for shredder itself by brautos are pretty good and tbh the best use of exec stance too. I run agri brauto with extra ammo and mostly middle tree for its good talents (I skip brittleness on the right because its not very good on agri brauto) and it fucks. you get good enough consistent damage for everything and the sulprus ammo combined with agri brautos good body damage makes it viable for ultra dense hclear (don't just shoot every poxwalker like some pug vet)

[south garnet]

my stupid bitch wife

helps if she's in on it

[serene sage]

My ho-ore wife

[devout atlas]

I've gotten top kills with cknife and agri brauto effortlessly without ever running under 50% ammo on auric damns

so IMHO it fucks

[serene sage]

Did you have sex with my ho-oer wife

The way he says it

[bold sierra]

catachan mommy wife

[serene sage]

I love Danny

[bold sierra]

I mean what

[south garnet]

rip

[serene sage]

What

Why rip

No way he died

[south garnet]

wait who were you talking about

[gentle prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/eat-gif-17971072

[serene sage]

Danny Devito?

[south garnet]

oh ok, I thought you were talking about a standup comic

devito ain't dead

crisis averted

[plucky linden]

all lasguns share their blessings, right?
The non-charging ones.

[south garnet]

I love danny devito in killing mona

I mean, he's great in everything he's in, but he makes a great straight man too

[plucky linden]

i.e., does this one share blessigns with Mk12 ?

[serene sage]

Helbore are their own
Infantry Las are their own
Recon are their own

[plucky linden]

oh, damn

so it's recon only.

[serene sage]

Lapisol is its own

Yeah

[south garnet]

so, what then, one more week before part 2 drops?

[gentle prawn]

lasgun looks too much like lasagna and I’m going to be spelling it like that from now on

[south garnet]

then they audi 5000 so they don't have to listen to any complaining about bugs

[gaunt hinge]

garfield was a hero of the imperium

[delicate moat]

good god

[gentle prawn]

ngl, I don’t run into much bugs

[south garnet]

you do, you just don't realize it - which is fine, to be clear

[gentle prawn]

you’re hiding bugs under ze floorboards, are you not?

[delicate moat]

my teammates dont know how to melee

[gentle prawn]

I had a chaos spawn jump through the floor the other day and despawn, no complaints there.

[south garnet]

it's pretty easy to not realize in the heat of the moment that a talent that should be giving you toughness DR, but is actually making you take MORE damage - or that your staff is all of a sudden doing over 2x the damage it should be - or that a blessing doesn't work at all - or that it's working 2x as well as it should be and once it gets 'fixed' your weapon will feel like garbage

[delicate moat]

in a melee maelstrom

they don't know how to melee

[gentle prawn]

It’s hard to melee without the helbore mk2 bayonet tbh

[south garnet]

Generally 'bugs' in the context of darktide refers to 'programming errors' rather than bug-bugs like people floating or etc.

which is usually fatshark copypasting code without actually looking at it first

[hard briar]

my fav is the tooltips

[gentle prawn]

Yeah they’re just awful they definitely haven’t made some of the best games

[south garnet]

yea, the text will frequently just completely not match the actual function of a talent/blessing/etc.

[gentle prawn]

Those damn fools, I’ll make my OWN darktide! With hookers and blow!

[delicate moat]

this psyker brings VIIa to melee maelstrom

[south garnet]

so far you're the only one who's said that

[delicate moat]

[hard briar]

and they aint chat gpting this shit.
they flat out just lie in the tool tips

[south garnet]

it's a pretty small team

[serene sage]

Remember Thy Grenade Be Swift?

I still mourn its death

[south garnet]

what's so weird to me about this is, you don't even have to understand the code, ALL you have to do is read the description of the ability you're copypasting into DT to know what it's gonna do

[gentle prawn]

It’s almost definitely “we made this to be X” and then it got changed to Y with no update to the tooltip

[south garnet]

the opposite - like they wrote the tooltip for what they wanted it to do, then copypasted code from something 'sort of like' what they thought they wanted with no alterations

[raw turtle]

when you realize you dont have brutal momentum yet

[gentle prawn]

But even vermintide sometimes had hard to understand perks or talents

[serene sage]

Damn son

[hard briar]

because they did the same thing since VT

Fatshark has been making these same lil mistakes since VT

[gentle prawn]

Bro you can’t just be posting pron like that

[hard briar]

xD

[south garnet]

some stuff I understand, like EP effecting not just smite but also surge staff - that could easily be an unforeseen instance

[gentle prawn]

It’s a big game

It’s a fun game

I reckon they did well, and can still do better. And that’s pretty cool.

[serene sage]

Has anyone tested if they changed how extra Toughness Replenishment works?

[south garnet]

which one?

born leader?

[serene sage]

Yeah

[south garnet]

I don't think anyone has bothered lol

[glacial onyx]

among us

[south garnet]

even on paper it sucks

[serene sage]

Sometimes I try to look and it feels like you do regen a decent amount for your teammates

Even when you're full

[south garnet]

Could be

[serene sage]

But it's probably placebo

[delicate moat]

placebo effect gaming

[glacial onyx]

on paper it ruled with the old Confirmed Kill

that was so much toughness for the boys

[serene sage]

If it generates 15% extra for you

[glacial onyx]

that would be nuts

[south garnet]

confirmed kill downgraded to possible kill

[glacial onyx]

lol

[serene sage]

I mean not 15% total

[south garnet]

think about your actions kill

[serene sage]

Just whatever you regen plus 15% of that

So confirmed kills get 15% of 30% which is 4.5%

I think that's fair

[glacial onyx]

i have like 200 toughness

[gentle prawn]

Why would I support my teammates that leave me behind

[serene sage]

Not too strong and make you feel a bit better

[south garnet]

take sprint aura and sprint node and outrun your teammates and danger

[gentle prawn]

If I do that they they get lit up from the flamer that spawned behind them that they didn’t pay attention to.

[untold mulch]

One poor lad asking how tf the Gunlugger shooting nonstop never reached yellow

me staring at the scoreboard at the Ogryn with 9+ ammo pickups while everyone else was 1

I wonder

[south garnet]

that's the risk they took going on the mission, you're just doing your due diligence by letting them improve their situational awareness

[glacial onyx]

bro needed it

[serene sage]

Gunpsyker has a decent bit higher damage potential than we do

[gentle prawn]

Fuck that, melk wants me completing missions

[serene sage]

But we have better melee support

And a lot less squishy

[untold mulch]

He did jackshit damage, he was missing constnatly

[south garnet]

tbh I feel the most squishy as vet by far outside middle tree shout builds

[glacial onyx]

yeah they keep nerfing vet lol

[gentle prawn]

They’re trying to get people to play different classes lol

[untold mulch]

Patch 20, 50% chance for ranged hits to heal the enemy

[gentle prawn]

I rarely ever have more than one oggy

[glacial onyx]

i was gonna say i think psyker is squishier, but the push on the force sword is nuts

[serene sage]

Patch 21, lore update
Vet lost his leg

[glacial onyx]

with deflector and the cheaper block cost

[serene sage]

Movement speed reduced to 0

[south garnet]

that's a terrible excuse, absolutely awful, one I don't think even FS would sink to making lol

[untold mulch]

Psyker literally gets to 100% toughness by existing

[serene sage]

Vet now can be carried, literally, by teammates only

[gentle prawn]

Update: we added prone
also, vet can only prone crawl due to war injuries

[serene sage]

It's just lore bro

[south garnet]

good, talent tree should become family tree of dead relatives in the war and paired disabilities

[hard briar]

this is that dumbshit Iron Mace does in Dark and Darker

[south garnet]

I say go all in

[gentle prawn]

Ogryn prone still has a large enough silhouette to BLOCK MY FOOKIN SHOTS

[south garnet]

bring back double damage on sprint, and take away ability to crouch (bad back)

[hard briar]

nerfs a popular class into the dirt so players go play this other class so they have data (they dont look at) on said class...

[glacial onyx]

useless data of course because they essentially removed another class

[hard briar]

Iron Mace logic

Least they havent yet resorted to riot Logic

[gentle prawn]

all of veteran’s voice lines are now changed to groaning

[glacial onyx]

all veterans now forcibly have the cadian background

[serene sage]

Riot logic makes sense though, in a scummy way

[hard briar]

Fatshark abiding to Riot Logic:
We see that Veteran is underperforming
In response we are buffing Zealot and giving Ogyrn 30% more damage resist

[untold mulch]

5% chance for each lasgun shot to overcharge the battery and explode on hands

Will not down you, but you won't be able to use ranged for the rest of match

[gentle prawn]

update: added perm film grain to all veterans due to eye injuries

[south garnet]

we made helbore 3 feel bad and terrible to use on purpose. as a joke.

[serene sage]

Bolter is underperforming
Better buff the Revolver
Again
For the 4th patch
In a row

[swift thistle]

We have decided to make ragers target veterans only

[gentle prawn]

we will not be updating helbore sights because we don’t want to

[serene sage]

It already feels like it

[untold mulch]

Revolver can't 1 shot Bosses

Needs patch fix

[hard briar]

We see that Hellbore is performing well.
So in response we are nerfing the MG12, MG1A, and MG4 lasguns.

[serene sage]

I think it's because I always shoot them first

[untold mulch]

REAL

[serene sage]

So they aggro to me

Maybe I should let some other karkers get it

[gentle prawn]

I aggro them on purpose because my team doesn’t know to block.

I am a shepherd.

[swift thistle]

Thats why I run stealth vet, so I can make my problem, the psykers

They can handle it

[hard briar]

Seeing that Calvacade is being used in place of Pinning Fire, we are going to remove Calvacade from the blessing pool for all wrapons.
Blame Bolter Vets

[south garnet]

rule #1, don't shoot what you can't kill.
which is why I don't shoot, I just watch my teammates and root for them from the sidelines

[untold mulch]

Question, headhunter autoguns

I assume they underperform if not consistent headshots?

[gentle prawn]

Aggro 6 crushers, run over to psyker, stealth, profit

[untold mulch]

Support Vet as Fatshark intends

[hard briar]

Veteran Cheerleader

[untold mulch]

Cheerleaders for the Team

[serene sage]

Nah "support" vet packs some serious firepower

[hard briar]

Veteran Cheerleader Loose cannon"YE, KILL THOSE KARKERS BIG MAN! KILL EM GOOD!"

[serene sage]

It's just there are 3 dead nodes on the tree

That is mandatory

[untold mulch]

Unnacceptable, will be patched next week

[swift thistle]

Psyker can get trapped in a corner and anvilled by a bunch of crushers while I tickle them with my knife without a rending blessing

[glacial onyx]

the krak grenades in my pocket:

[serene sage]

Having tried gunker yesterday i feel very squishy

[south garnet]

my union rep / middle management build is my favorite build atm. Shouting at teammates and enemies, micromanaging the battle via tags, and wearing an expensive looking leather jacket

[serene sage]

So I'm not gonna complain about vet being paper thin

[hard briar]

Veteran Squad Leader is outperforming
in response we are nerfing his stats by 30% accross the board.

We are also buffing all of Zealots CDR nodes and extending their Chorus range

[glacial onyx]

also the icon pulses 35 times now

[hard briar]

a second

[serene sage]

Lmao

[untold mulch]

Revolver now has an infinite cylinder

[gentle prawn]

Icon now stuns demonhost

[south garnet]

We found shout to overlap too much with chorus. Instead shout will now give enemies extra HP, stun you for five seconds, and blast your teammates off of ledges

[glacial onyx]

it already stuns daemonhost, that's not a joke

[swift thistle]

Any infested enemies in range during chorus now dust away from it’s holy light instantly

[hard briar]

Id use it if it did that

more

xD

[gentle prawn]

Yaknow I never tried it

[glacial onyx]

no it actually does stumble the daemonhost

[untold mulch]

Ngl that would be rad

[midnight patrol]

Why is this allowed to be even possible rofl

[hard briar]

Pysker says some heretical shit,
Launch him off the Ledge

[untold mulch]

Shoots BBs

[lyric warren]

wtf is that autogun o.O

[untold mulch]

airsoft autogun

[midnight mortar]

New special action: Play's the roulette with itself so Veteran can potentially commit suicide at any time.

[hard briar]

get stat dumped

[serene sage]

I see you are using my teammates guns

[untold mulch]

Damn, new meta

[swift thistle]

I mean, it might be fine if it was like the revive talent for shout, with like a shorter range and even longer cooldown

[crude fiber]

I've been liking it on my glass Canon build. Can 1 shots crushers if im far enough from them

[hard briar]

I want this for Plasma

[untold mulch]

1d6 rolled for each overcharge

[glacial onyx]

i run the helbore 3 on my krieger cosplay set and thats it lol

[gentle prawn]

I like crushers because it’s harder for me to miss

[hard briar]

Buff Plasma's damage by 200%
But roll a 1d6 when past 20% heat

[serene sage]

Plasma should be table top accurate

[hard briar]

if you roll a 1.
You die

[glacial onyx]

6

[untold mulch]

No down

[serene sage]

1 in 6 shots will kill you

[untold mulch]

DIE

[south garnet]

Once you make it work, it definitely works. Between the sights, the input delays/incomplete charges at random, and the arm speed it's just a fucking annoying process to get there though

Plus the duplicated non-cancelable shots on charge

[glacial onyx]

you can cancel it actually

[south garnet]

Why they 'fixed' being able to cancel charge on ADS/un-ADS is baffling to me

[hard briar]

Listen.
If my Troll on my BB Ork team can make numerous rolls against his 1d6 stupid and yeet my goblin ball carrier into the endzone without eating him.

You can run Plasma and not kill urself on a 1d6

[swift thistle]

I run three +3 stam curios

[glacial onyx]

huh? that was still working for me last i checked

[swift thistle]

I am ready for death

As long as I go quickly

[south garnet]

technically true I guess, although you have to time your unclicks perfectly or it still blasts off a shot

[crude fiber]

I use weapon customization mod for an actual sight and onslaught for faster charged shots. It still take an eternity to pull out though

[glacial onyx]

hold lmb, un-ADS, re-ADS, release lmb

[south garnet]

onslaught definitely helps it feel better

[hard briar]

https://youtu.be/cD4yNJ_m6PA?si=VX8T4tbs9z9jYnvt
context

[south garnet]

interesting, I'll test this in just a sec. Before all you had to do was un-ADS to cancel

[hard briar]

1 turn touchdowns as a medium mobility team

[gentle prawn]

Draw time doesn’t matter if you run a mk2

[hard briar]

[south garnet]

Mk2 feels good, only issue is it doesn't really deal with carapace anymore

[gentle prawn]

krak go brr

[swift thistle]

I don’t have enough extra points to go krak

Thats TWO EMPERORDAMN POINTS I DON’T HAVE

[gentle prawn]

If I have to deal with more than 2 crushers, it’s no longer a just me problem.

[south garnet]

If I'm carrying helbore I want it to deal with armor, and I absolutely do want to be able to deal with more than 2 crushers ha

which, to be fair, can still be done without a ranged weapon capable of doing so

But needs to be a planned part of the loadout

[gentle prawn]

Power cycler on mk6 does a decent job

[south garnet]

yep

[gentle prawn]

I’ll deal with reduced carapace damage so long as I can bayonet charge the trapper that just rounded a corner

[south garnet]

it makes me feel icky carrying a mk6 with every build though, reminds me of the pre-cycler days of everyone and their grandma lugging a bolter and PS around

[gentle prawn]

it was fun tho

[glacial onyx]

i still lug a ps around i love power swords

[south garnet]

fair

[gentle prawn]

ove me power sord

ove me boltah

ate nurgle

[south garnet]

I prefer shovel

[gentle prawn]

simple as

[glacial onyx]

bolter i can give or take

[south garnet]

generally

[glacial onyx]

i typically run a lasgun, but i mean if i have the option to take a damn power sword, how could I not

[gentle prawn]

The draw time on bolter feels slower the higher diff you’re in

[swift thistle]

I use knife because I have nightmares of crushers

[gentle prawn]

Like you kinda need it right now in malice, but in damn you NEED IT RIGHT NOW

[swift thistle]

Can’t hit what is 200 feet away from you

[south garnet]

I still think it's funny they gave gungryn the insta reload/equip ult

sorry vet

get good

[sharp ember]

don't worry chief, ogryns still gotta do their equip animation so it's okay

[gentle prawn]

my helbore has enough ammo that if I empty the magazine and there’s still enemies on screen, it was preordained

[glacial onyx]

bayo charge

[gentle prawn]

deus vult

[south garnet]

I think I barely even have to reload with my helbore build - shocktrooper, deadshot, etc.

[gentle prawn]

I’ve got surgical so half the time I just don’t use ammo.

[south garnet]

same

[swift thistle]

I never have my ranged out long enough to get the benefits from surgical, so I just run point blank so I just get a guaranteed 20% crit chance along with a reload of a single bullet thanks to weapons specialist

And thanks to the +33%, from my understanding, being multiplicative, after a little bit of fighting I am going to kill that crusher that thought he could get the jump on ME

ME OF THE ALL PEOPLE

[south garnet]

for revolver specifically, I just keep the one good one around which happens to have surgical, so I always use surgical. I'm just lazy

I can't be assed

[gentle prawn]

Idfk how people have all this plasteel laying around

[swift thistle]

Well truth is, point blank was locked, so I didn’t really have a choice

[south garnet]

three different versions of the same weapon for different builds is something I might work on if I didn't have shit to do

[swift thistle]

Too much auric mealstrum

[gentle prawn]

I’m over here upgrading my shit I got blessings on my shit

Does maelstrom give more plasteel?

[swift thistle]

Not sure

[delicate moat]

less because ppl need to go fast

[gentle prawn]

I’ve been avoiding it since I wipe on heresy

[swift thistle]

But honestly I got perfectly rolled stats

Don’t need to spend as much plasteel unless I am making a new weapon build

[gentle prawn]

I’m gonna keep trying to get pc4

I’ll find it eventually

[swift thistle]

But I have a severe knife revolver stealth veteran disease

I believe it’s terminal

[midnight mortar]

No.

[south garnet]

OK so I've been testing this on the MK3

It works... sort of

[gentle prawn]

And once I get my vet where I want him, it’s on to psyker

[midnight mortar]

The only thing that affects plasteel spawn ratios is the base difficulty like Damnation or Heresy etc.

[glacial onyx]

i can get it to work reliably, maybe you have to do it faster?

[gentle prawn]

I’m thinking it’s better to just run a bunch of malice that you can complete reliably vs damnation where you wipe half the time

[south garnet]

It feels needlessly convoluted and does still blast off shots occasionally - seems you're correct that I just need to do it faster, which does seem to yield the most successes

[glacial onyx]

i need to make the jump to damnation. heresy is too easy but i keep getting fucked up in damn

[gentle prawn]

On helbore I’d say just waste the shot

[silk nexus]

Gimme a screenshot of a talent build for veteran; lawbringer shotgun + the rashad/achylus axe

[midnight mortar]

If you can reliably clear Damnation, you'll earn more since the ceiling is roughly 770 to 800 plasteel.

[swift thistle]

But think, if you play enough damnation, you can be good enough where you don’t wipe

[south garnet]

I just wish it did it with the un-ADS still, especially since the audio cue for a charged shot goes away as does the charge bar, which would NORMALLY indicate there's not a round about to spit out

[glacial onyx]

or just muscle memory learn to abort the shot

[south garnet]

But yeah, just need to build muscle memory for it I guess

[gentle prawn]

I’m good enough to clear damnation, but not if my team isn’t also.

[south garnet]

Very annoying muscle memory

I had the muscle memory and they changed it and now I don't

https://tenor.com/view/grampa-simpson-gif-19674842

[gentle prawn]

I keep pressing R because of the vt bows

[crude fiber]

Solo queuing into damn is always a gamble lol

[south garnet]

Anyway, thanks for the tip Litty

[glacial onyx]

man i played with a team from here i think i'm just shitty

[midnight mortar]

There's only one way to get better, practice.

[south garnet]

I pretty much exclusively do auric dam qp, usually in the first 5 minutes I can tell how a match will go

[gentle prawn]

solo quick play auric damnation
load into mid-game
half the team already ragequit
wipe
repeat

[glacial onyx]

i don't even know what i'm doing wrong, it all works on heresy

[gentle prawn]

I’ve got a very simple mod that made the game a lot easier

[glacial onyx]

i need a mod that changes the enemy ping noise to a vine boom

[gentle prawn]

if abouttogethit = true then
dont()

[midnight mortar]

Well, the first step is identifying what's killing you in Damnation. Chip damage? Bad positioning? Lack of awareness?

Were you getting through Heresy without taking hp damage for 80-90% of the mission?

[glacial onyx]

yeah definitely

[south garnet]

one thing to consider, on top of obvious hp buffs for enemies and similar, is a matter of volume. There is simply "more" of everything on higher diff, which means those decision loops and tactical shifts you make fine on heresy still work, but they need to happen faster and more instinctively

[glacial onyx]

usually we'll just end up overwhelmed

[south garnet]

That just takes practice

[glacial onyx]

alright

[crude fiber]

Try high shock troop heresy when you see them. That'll probably help

[gentle prawn]

And you’re more than likely good enough to run damnation, but not good enough to carry.

[midnight mortar]

In my experience, there are many smaller mistakes that happen before that point.

[gentle prawn]

Be confident that most people are worse than you are.

You will know who isn’t.

[south garnet]

I'll take this a step further: KNOW that everyone else playing is worse than you and that you are the best, no matter what

[gentle prawn]

I am strongest

[glacial onyx]

zased

[south garnet]

^

[gentle prawn]

Unironically, a lot of people in quick play want to and need to be carried

[south garnet]

yea

You'll sniff them out pretty quick lol

[crude fiber]

I try to kill all specials and elites until I'm sure my teammates are capable of doing it themselves (usually halfway through the game)

[glacial onyx]

yeah thats what i was trying to do too

i was bringing my old reliable volley fire build where i just click all the specials and shooters until they die

[gentle prawn]

If you’re in a veteran four stack and an assload of gunners spawn, who kills them?

[crude fiber]

Even then I still get burstered from behind assuming the 2 people behind me will handle it lol

[gentle prawn]

@ the dog running through my whole team to tackle me

[umbral scaffold]

In quickplay lobbies Ive relegated myself to VoC/Plasma/quick revive knowing I will likely have to carry. It works until someone decides they own all the ammo packs and I can no longer take care of any scary specials

[south garnet]

One instinct that you need to stomp out on hi shock dam especially, is the urge to put your team first. "I need to be covering this way in case," "They'll handle that direction," "I'd better help that guy with that crusher," "That burster is headed right for them," "That guy got netted and I need to aggro his ragers," etc.
Sometimes you will have the bandwidth to do that, but bottom line, cover your own ass first

[gentle prawn]

Also if you’ve never bayoneted a dog mid-leap, would recommend

[south garnet]

I'm not saying don't support your team, I'm just saying don't be the second domino in all of you going down

Put your own oxygen mask on before you put your kids' on

Also, do NOT trust them to handle threats

[gentle prawn]

The damage frames on bayonet actually make it super easy to stab the dog

[south garnet]

Be paranoid

[midnight mortar]

Everytime. Every goddamm time I think "maybe I'll let them handle this one since I got the last 8" no one fucking does and then we all get poxxed.

Even if I'm the furthest away from its spawn location.

[south garnet]

It's a balancing act between acting selfishly and untrustful and supporting your teammates in tight spots. If everyone is playing this way, covering each other when they can and supporting in tight spots but ultimately handling their own shit, tough matches will go smoothly

[midnight mortar]

Have to tear myself away from where I am and go to it to babysit the surge psyker who doesn't know he can det the burster with smite.

[south garnet]

Barring super bizarre AI behaviors and unfortunate positioning

[gentle prawn]

I’ve been so keen on bayonet stabbing I’ll sometimes accidentally pop the burster right in front of me

It’s a great way to disengage from melee though

Yeet your ass 20 ft away

[swift thistle]

I sometimes do that with barrels

But never with poxbursters

[south garnet]

"he's been staring at that burster running towards him from the other end of the hallway for 10 minutes now, do we tell him?"

[swift thistle]

Those things do like 75% of my health

[gentle prawn]

I wasn’t using my health anyway

[midnight mortar]

I hate it. Only 1 out of every 5 psykers I encounter knows they can do it.

[gentle prawn]

brain burst is still goated idc what anyone says

[south garnet]

then you've got the guy with trauma who wants to use it on every problem and blows up 2/3 bursters right in your face to 'save' you

[gentle prawn]

smite boys are stealing the jobs from hard working zealots

[midnight mortar]

This. I swear.

[glacial onyx]

agree i love it

[swift thistle]

In my opinion, the best feeling in this game is either meleeing a dog mid leap or one shotting a poxburster

[strange grove]

I do this all the time. People shouldn't sprint at a burster two football fields away to push it

[gentle prawn]

Bro, bayonet the dogs

[swift thistle]

Like oh you are gonna use your power of ranged resistance? RESIST THE POWER OF MY BMG MAGNUM

[gentle prawn]

They reworked it with the last patch to where I can’t reliably say this or that

[south garnet]

hard to say tbh

[gentle prawn]

I’d say try it with, then check progress.

[swift thistle]

Whatever is the least convenient

Thats the fatshark commendation way

[south garnet]

it'd be "safest" to just do base volley fire

[mortal horizon]

thoughts on this for plasma ps build

[strange inlet]

Seems really similar to my plasma gun build, looks solid

[devout atlas]

hello vetbros

[swift thistle]

No

We are all vet enemies

[devout atlas]

thats #zealot-class

[wanton dawn]

taking exil takedown and the keystone thoughness node and ck seems like overinvestment in thoughness regen

[swift thistle]

I would kill every other vet if it means that they would be able to steal my thunder

[strange grove]

i dunno why but I seem to take much less damage w/ shovel than ps6

[devout atlas]

why is that a surprise to you in the slightest lol

[swift thistle]

I am TRYING to use INFILTRATE to get KNIFE BACKSTABS please STOP SHOOTING THEM

[strange grove]

i dunno

[devout atlas]

shovel is the most defensive weapon for vet while ps6 has garbage dodge

[swift thistle]

Anythings a good defensive weapon when you have enough +3 stamina curios

[strange grove]

Shovel is great for stunlocking crushers, it takes them out of overhead swing

but for some reason I can't reliably stop a mutie mid charge

is it the head being hte size of a grapefruit?

[devout atlas]

but yea no you're always gonna take less damage with shovel, it has better dodge and its special has fantastic stagger potential able to stop even mutants. its heavy spam can slap around groups of ragers

[wanton dawn]

PS6 lackluster dodge really hurt against dh. Good thing you are not supposed to wake it up

[devout atlas]

shovel is kinda just an ole reliable, ps6 is great until you get overwhelmed and get your ass ripped apart

i only rlly use ps6 on my laspis build because i hate the dodge so much

[wanton dawn]

i play ps6 on all my build as default melee weapon

[strange grove]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-weird-skeptical-worried-disgusted-gif-4990489

[delicate moat]

I've found playing more selfishly helps Previously I try too hard to save a teammate from net / revive / help them which gets myself killed

Now if I see someone downed/trapped in a bad position I just sit back and enjoy the show

[devout atlas]

sometimes you gotta cut your losses

[delicate moat]

sometimes teammates gotta take the L and wait for rescue

[swift thistle]

I just use their dying body as a way to draw aggro away from me during the 10 seconds of -90% threat

Or 20 seconds if I got both charges ready

[delicate moat]

I've found the people insta rage quitting to be quite helpful because they bring back the helpful bots to draw aggro

[lucid yew]

What’s the best weapon to use for the no ammo remaining heresy penance

Plasma gun or?

[delicate moat]

Also what's interesting is you might need to decide that your team is in a shit position, and you need to rotate to a better combat position. This might even mean abandoning your teammates if their positions are awful. Sure, pinging go over there helps, but sometimes pub teammates do not pay attention at all.

[midnight mortar]

Shotgun or revolver are often suggested.

Obviously don't use the ammo aura.

[mortal horizon]

ya true. i can give up the keystone node easily. what would be better?

[lucid yew]

Alr

[hard briar]

https://youtube.com/shorts/EbWQzdMrXdg?si=VAgq0gutkEjjQnhd

give vet subsonic 50 cal

[lucid yew]

I’ll probably rock a shotgun with middle tree, run out of ammo then go ape with melee

[wanton dawn]

The damage one on target kill has almost perma uptime

[south spindle]

Often, sadly, you do have to cut your losses with bad down locations, but sometimes i see people ignore teammates they could easily save with no effort, which is a bit annoying

[midnight mortar]

Cue teammates not knowing about net freeing being faster.

[south spindle]

Yeah.. that one...

[delicate moat]

right, obviously it's situational

[south spindle]

Super fuckin common, unfortunately

[glacial onyx]

huh ok

maybe i was playing too team oriented

[delicate moat]

It's like when I see teammate get netted if I can save them I try my best

[glacial onyx]

yeah saving from a net isn't so bad, its quickk

[delicate moat]

But when I get netted in easy to save position I stay laying down

The floor is more comfy anyway

[south spindle]

Yep.. it do be like that

[delicate moat]

Worse are dogs

You can just shoot one bullet at the dog

[glacial onyx]

oh yeah

[delicate moat]

You don't need to push over, just shoot 1 boolet in the general direction

But no, I'd be cooking in flamer and bomber combo

[civic knot]

Is this bricked?

[south spindle]

Not totally, but it aint perfect thats for sure

[queen quiver]

Just replace the perks with 25 to carapace and maniac

Pining fire and glory hunter are pretty good

[raw turtle]

not at all, gloryhunter is one of the best blessings, i use it on mine.

[frigid wren]

Which one is better?

[delicate moat]

I wanna say right

[topaz lance]

What do I do to this?

[strange grove]

get unyielding and maniac?

[raw turtle]

thats it

[topaz lance]

Thanks! Carapace doesn't help plasma?

[strange grove]

not really

[raw turtle]

even unarmoured helps one shot gunners, but maniac and unyielding are better

i love gloryhunter on plasma, always use... regens a lot of toughness since im always sniping stuff.. really helps me

[south garnet]

sorry but that's unoptimal and doesn't make sense. the meta is gets hot and blaze away. please scrap your plasma immediately, thank you in advance

[lucid yew]

Does plasma bypass bulwark shield? I forgot

[outer wolf]

Guys, what are the best curios perks (or recommended)

[south garnet]

I do +stam +tough +health as a part of this balanced breakfast

[topaz lance]

That's a bit build dependent

[south garnet]

Oh sorry, +stam +tough +wound

[delicate moat]

perks or the main curio thing?

[south garnet]

It's not really optimal, I'm just lazy and don't feel like screwing with curios for every build

[opal root]

3 +3 stamina, same as every class

[outer wolf]

I'm going with +woun +health + health and usually toughness regen, gunners resistance and whatever

[topaz lance]

You running deadshot? -> at least 1 stam curio needed.

[outer wolf]

perks

[south garnet]

Stam regen, tough regen, gunner res

[delicate moat]

I prefer stam regen / block efficiency / gunner res / revive speed

[opal root]

+dockets, block efficiency, stamina regen

[delicate moat]

many good perks, can't really go wrong

+dockets is also based

[opal root]

Dockets are the biggest bottleneck 😦

[delicate moat]

just carry AM pubs simple as /s

[opal root]

Unemployed NA hours are rough

[delicate moat]

but yeah fk brunt

all my homies hate brunt

[quaint valve]

So about to give the combat blade a try, what are the ideal perks/blessings to aim for?

[lucid yew]

How can I easily get the 25% heal for “there is nothing but the abyss”

[delicate moat]

depends on what your intended purpose of the knife is

• lacerate or flesh tearer / uncanny
• mercy killer / uncanny
• mercy killer / ruthless backstab
• lacerate / flesh tearer

all viable

for perks u can do something like maniacs and +5% crit chance

[empty heron]

Fk me sexy modifiers

[quaint valve]

Plan is to run it alongside revolver or plasma in a weapon specialist build

[tall torrent]

I have been converted, helbore 2 is the best veteran ranged weapon rn

[delicate moat]

right, depending on ur tree and if u can afford to run serrated blade

[tall torrent]

As in, it’s the most point efficient ranged weapon that hits all the right breakpoints u want

[quaint valve]

I figured that might be needed, I have flex points I can swap for serrated

[tall torrent]

The only things I find it lacking in are killing flamers

[delicate moat]

it's an option, but u could also take a bleed blessing on the knife itself

[tall torrent]

Takes 2 headshots

[delicate moat]

you could also alternatively run non-bleed knife like uncanny / precog, but your mileage may vary since it might be painful against trash

[quaint valve]

Running shout and weapon specialist. But it sounds like just about any combination of blessings will work. Assuming typical perks are maniac/flak?

[delicate moat]

yeah, u could also do maniac/crit chance

[tall torrent]

But helbore 2 can one tap headshot both gunners rn (needs 30% weakpoint to 1 tap scab, then 25% unarmored + either 15% elite or 2 stacks of tag keystone to 1 tab dreg)

[civic knot]

Worth yoinking either blessing?

[delicate moat]

t4 bruhmentum is awesome, definitely yoink it

[strange grove]

if not for the low stats that would be usuable, but yea eat it for bowel movement blessing

[civic knot]

what are the ideal blessings on a boltgun?

[strange grove]

surgical and pinning fire

if you only plan on hipfiring (as some zealots do) get shattering impact instead of surgical

[civic knot]

and what perks?

[strange grove]

perks might be the standard flak/maniac

[civic knot]

Ive heard people say that glory hunter is good, that true?

[strange grove]

I would just get ET talent for toughness regen

[civic knot]

what is ET?

[strange grove]

exhiliarting takedown

sp*

[junior needle]

I very much dont think so

[strange grove]

on elite/special killer builds ET is king, for pewpew everything builds I like that out for blood talent

[little fog]

Heyo.

[delicate moat]

today i met a lvl 1k xbox player

[little fog]

Oh noooo.

Got a question, what's been the changes within Darktide? I've been away for a year.

[untold mulch]

Classes has been reworked and now is a tree instead of a pick a thing each 5 levels

[junior needle]

Don't you mean confirmed kill?

[little fog]

Yep, know that.

[junior needle]

ET is for headshots

But confirmed kill is elites/specials

[untold mulch]

Got a few maps, though in the last months only one, though we will get a supposedly decent sized patch for early december

[delicate moat]

spawn director now has no chill

[little fog]

That'd be The Traitor's Curse, right?

[little fog]

Did he ever?

[delicate moat]

it did yes

[untold mulch]

Yep, part 2 is next weeks

[serene bough]

Any new drip from the commodore

[little fog]

Huh.

[untold mulch]

25+ rager spam in t5

He has no more chill