veteran-class

[sharp epoch]

It's still 12% buff for a 2 point investment, 3 with focus fire. Agile engagement gives 25% damage with easy conditions. Just not worth to go for keystones

[delicate moat]

So I disabled in game music and blasted my own music during the AM run, it actually unironically helped because I stopped relying on sometimes-non-existent sound ques

[terse idol]

I mean uhh

12% could mean the difference between 1 or 2 shots

[slow garden]

Btw is it just me or are the sound ques in darktide kind of quiet

[terse idol]

Could be okay but I don't math

Hmm maybe with fire team...

[delicate moat]

quiet is one thing, sometimes they don't fking exist

[karmic musk]

Damn I can understand you needing the sound because your vision is fked due to your nades anyways

[fast scaffold]

12% across 4 people is pretty good

[terse idol]

With a 22% total buff...

[slow garden]

Also true

[sharp epoch]

Yeah so damage buffs matter for breakpoints, and with different guns you can test

[trim steppe]

Focus targets should be able to tag poxwalkers so I could get the buff easier and be more toxic

[terse idol]

That actually could be where fire team shines...

Hit a 22% damage boost...

[slow garden]

Eh

Not worth the ammo loss still

[sharp epoch]

but I've tested it and it helps only for muties and gunners for plasma gun

[tiny summit]

They aren't quiet for me but I wish maulers made a little bit more noise for trying to cave my head in with a chainaxe

[slow garden]

You could just have your squad of 4 vets shooting things forever

[umbral scaffold]

You're not gonna be a horrible failure as a vet if your longshot + killzone + exec stance + precision strikes plasma gun is missing 8% damage because you couldn't max your stacks or some shit

[slow garden]

Yeah same

Its the spawn in sounds that I miss pretty frequently

[karmic musk]

if I don't get full damage bonuses, I'm not firing

[terse idol]

Honestly yeah they need to be as loud as chaos knights or about as loud as crushers

[delicate moat]

I play better when I stop trying to rely on these sound ques and constantly check my rear being paranoid

[terse idol]

Maulers also are very dark

[umbral scaffold]

Patience is a virtue, inshallah

[terse idol]

So they blend in

[slow garden]

Same here brother

[terse idol]

Sometimes I don't even see 3 maulers in front of me because they blend in so well

[keen sedge]

opinions on the weapons im using?

[slow garden]

Chainsword good

[terse idol]

Like a dark wall and combine that with crushers

[slow garden]

I slightly question the autogun but if it works for you it works for you my man

[umbral scaffold]

And agile engagement, as great as it is, needs 1) a melee kill and 2) for you to pull out your weapon and benefit from the 25% in the next 5 seconds

[slow spade]

Fatshark should give all enemies 1-shot protection for funnies

[umbral scaffold]

If you tag an enemy, that's it

[delicate moat]

what columnus is like one of the best IAGs

[terse idol]

Or maulers need like audible voicelines

Crushers too

[umbral scaffold]

You just hit the tag button and don't need a kill for the enemy to take more damage

[terse idol]

So fucking quiet

[slow garden]

It's the IAG's in general im not massive on

[delicate moat]

I stopped complaining about quiet sound ques, and just started spinning

[final locust]

I also mainly ask if theres any pictures of the build its self, mainly for the right passives and stuff

[keen sedge]

they have voicelines, just not as noticeable

[delicate moat]

[umbral scaffold]

And by that I basically mean they do different things and honestly nothing prevents the player from getting agile engagement and the tag keystone

[frank ether]

funny that it triggers on helbore bayonet apparently

[terse idol]

Yeah they gotta be loud and distinct

[umbral scaffold]

Big if true

[terse idol]

Since crusher overheads will ruin your day, maulers too

[umbral scaffold]

Melee helbore build when

[clear mist]

is this good? im gonna swap the top blessing out for the longer you aim down sight the more crit you get

[umbral scaffold]

Actually I'll do it myself, bye

[zinc osprey]

Damage boosts are effectively more ammunition because it takes fewer shots to kill things. This is one of the reason's breakpoints matter.

[terse idol]

God emperor of mankind, I repeat my sins for my planet

[zinc osprey]

Doing it now, it's fun!

[frank ether]

I have all the melee helbore tech

mk3 seemingly garbage on first glance but it has some secret sauce to it

[tiny summit]

I just think I should hear like much louder revving from maulers. Like I know when a Scrake in Killing Floor is around. I turn around and I see the mauler club of 6 approaching from behind with a horde

[slow garden]

True, but you can hit most breakpoints in the game with the right blessings/perks on the right weapon

[terse idol]

Very true

[slow garden]

One shot kill is still one shot

So I tend to value ammo higher than dam %

[terse idol]

Maulers and crushers are very dark and quiet

[slow garden]

Especially since the ogryn keeps taking all of it

[terse idol]

So its like a sin of game design

[slow garden]

[terse idol]

You'd think you have dangerous targets more visible and distinct

(Snipers aside)

[slow garden]

At least the vroom is audible

Though the flak armoured berserkers need like. Something.

[terse idol]

Oh right because Rot helms at least in v2 had the common decency to have red and very distinct white bellies to denote a weak point

[slow garden]

They're dark, they're fast, deal tons of damage, and are -Quiet-

[tiny summit]

Crushers have the excuse of being so huge they can't be mistaken. You can pick out maulers but they can blend in more

[terse idol]

Maulers have... chain mail

[terse idol]

They're pitch black 🥹

But no yeah

You right

[slow garden]

Recently its been ragers ending my runs

[tiny summit]

When a horde is coming and you realize in 3m there's like 8+ ragers

[slow garden]

^ Yep

[terse idol]

They need to have a distinct shout compared to scab ragers

[serene sage]

Yeah mfs

[slow garden]

And the psyker gets caught and doesnt block

And bam he's down

[terse idol]

And make them louder or something

[serene sage]

They have peril block too

Idk why it's so hard

[slow garden]

Or just use lightning, idk

[terse idol]

Psykers when they build no health or resistances or toughness

[karmic musk]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aad0201-c51c-4005-b009-cc94ae95c368/draft-bauto?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[terse idol]

(Why I die doe)

[serene sage]

Psykers when they can't stop shooting their unlimited ammo staff in melee

[sharp epoch]

They have like one toughness resist talent 😹

[karmic musk]

Just a quick draft that goes for Rending and tag since you aint gonna use your melee

[slow garden]

Vets and Psykers seem to get mulched by the berserkers a lot though

[vague charm]

What should I do to this?

[serene sage]

They are paper thin yeah

[tiny summit]

Look man sometimes if I'm blocking I'm not killing. The warp crayons taste too good

[sharp epoch]

It's cause zealots have 300 hp and Ogryn got 500 hp while psyker and vet have 200

[serene sage]

But like at least have the decency to use your melee in melee

[terse idol]

Honestly I'm lucky to be running dclaw so I can parry and usually gurantee a kill

[trim steppe]

Specialist to maniac/unyeilding, shattering to blaze away/gloryhunter

[sharp epoch]

also less damage resist on top of those

[slow garden]

Nice smud, also ty blubbery

[serene sage]

We are not asking you to clear wave, just block and crab dash away

[tiny summit]

Running more helbore with the bayonet stab staggering ragers outside their attack range is just too good

[slow garden]

I do want the flak armored ragers to have a more easily identifiable visual though

They blend in too much

[sharp epoch]

for wat

[serene sage]

I won't lie, I'm a deflector psyker crutcher

[slow garden]

Just the post of hp values

[terse idol]

Truue

[serene sage]

But at least I don't die to random poxes or blow myself up

[slow garden]

For some reason I can manage the plasma gun just fine without going boom

[terse idol]

I did do an embarrassing, blew up using my plasmagun

[slow garden]

But I get a psyker staff

[serene sage]

Hold R2 with melee spacebar sideway to safety

[slow garden]

And I fucking explode

[sharp epoch]

Yeah that's just general hp values, but that's the reason vet and psykers fold faster

[terse idol]

Talking to a friend on discord and damnation maelstrom

Dooont mix

[trim steppe]

You only blow up with charged shots which you use like 5x per mission

[serene sage]

One time I watched League Finals while on call while doing Auric T5

[terse idol]

I did learn recently to use left click more on plasmagun and wow

[slow garden]

Yeah pmuch Boko

[terse idol]

This slaps

[serene sage]

It was lit, the team carried

[sharp epoch]

league 🤢

[serene sage]

Imagine not having fun 😤

[slow garden]

Right click charge up on plasgun for big armored bad guys like ogryn

Left click for everything else

[terse idol]

Wait a minute, I watched the first opening of the LCS with the band playing while playing auric 5 with a friend

[delicate moat]

Become the

[sharp epoch]

its too stressful doing pvp thats why im here on pve

[slow garden]

Btw. The charge shot on plasgun atm has INFINITE pierce through enemies

Just sayin

You can delete a hallway of enemy ogryn with that mofo

[terse idol]

Iirc it also pierces walls

[slow garden]

Kinda

It pierces thin cover

[terse idol]

Or thin cover at least

[slow garden]

But not walls

[terse idol]

Yuhh

[serene sage]

We dick measure by comparing damage instead

[trim steppe]

If lefts didn't autovent at max, plasma vets would blow up as often as psykers. Probably more lol

[final locust]

thanks bro, appreciate it, big help my dude

[slow garden]

True, tbh

[sharp epoch]

i guess i got the biggest 😤

[terse idol]

Don't give FS ideas

[delicate moat]

they should stop autoventing

let the fireworks begin

[slow garden]

The vent does have a cd

[sharp epoch]

pls no

[slow garden]

Also yeah pls no

[covert beacon]

late response as only just finished work but do you mean the one that was on the right?

[delicate moat]

I want to go guns blazing into a crowd and then blow myself up taking enemies with me

[slow garden]

I have a hard enough time killing all the specials with my plasgun as is on damnation maelstrom

I dont need it to be harder

[serene sage]

They should nerd all the gryns guns

In fact

Give all ogryns recon las

As the only option

[sharp epoch]

achyls i barely outdamaged darcy

nahh

[serene sage]

It's only fair

[slow garden]

I just want more weapon types on ogryn

[umbral scaffold]

That's just a multilaser buddy

[terse idol]

That wouldn't be able to figure it out

[slow garden]

Kickback only good option imho

[sharp epoch]

Lascannon on ogryn??

[serene sage]

No no give them the current recon las guns

No changes

[umbral scaffold]

vet needs heavy bolter, that's all there is to it

[serene sage]

[slow garden]

Dual wielded racon lasguns for ogryn?

Hell yes

Sounds dumb, sounds fun

[serene sage]

Granted, you lose health shooting it due to recoil

It's like plasma

But health

[umbral scaffold]

ill take it

[slow garden]

Instantly non-viable

[umbral scaffold]

im ready for the emperor's peace

[bold ibex]

does +8% crit damage and +8% elite damage increase damage the same?

[slow garden]

I dont know what the crit multipliers are, idk

[sharp epoch]

Crit damage sucks

[slow garden]

I wouldnt bother with the crit damage though

Breakpoints are more important

[sharp epoch]

pretty sure elite damage will gives you buffer crits

[bold ibex]

i'll replace that one then.

[trim steppe]

Replace crit damage 100%, elite damage is somewhat useful

[slow garden]

Yea elite damage is fine, hopefully you hit breakpoits at 8%

[bold ibex]

it's just my secondary revolver anyways to play around with close combat

[delicate moat]

when does vet get a minigun

[sharp epoch]

trash and get a new one

[slow garden]

Its probably fine

[bold ibex]

I do with point blank was higher

[slow garden]

Not every revolver has to be perfect

[tall torrent]

Crit and weakpoint dmg are not very good

[slow garden]

Good blessings

[serene sage]

Should be 50%

[trim steppe]

Weak point is not ideal but ok on a cleave melee weapon since cleave swings target weak points now

[bold ibex]

I'd also settle for the 2.5 timer starting after weapon switch and it bel ike... 25%. Or al arger bonus on a single shot.

[bold ibex]

but it's definitely better than surgical when you're not sniping elites.

[terse idol]

That's pretty sweet for weapon spec now that I'm thinking about it

[bold ibex]

Yup. You do give up reliability against crushers though which is not great. Buuut.... i'm thinking maybe killing a normal char in melee, swapping, and getting off two or three shots into their face might be worthwhile

i'm also finding it hard to reliably kill them regardless. In meatgrinder I can two shot them reliably but in a group, idiots stagger them repeatedly and it wastes ammo on headshot

[terse idol]

[meager remnant]

Hello! What are some good perks and blessings to have for Power Sword VI? I know power cycler 4 and maybe maniac perk, but im not sure what else

[serene sage]

Brutal Momentum and Carapace

[umbral scaffold]

so anyone else having fun with infiltrate and bolter?

[serene sage]

No

I don't have fun

Period

I'm happy when I'm unhappy

[wise wren]

Whats the god roll on the plasma gun btw? I heard its one of the weapons you dont put flak maniac on

[umbral scaffold]

well we play darktide for a reason

[sharp epoch]

flak and maniac

gets hot blaze away

[slow spade]

Here's my plasma

[odd sparrow]

flak allows you to reach 1hit on scab shooters

[slow spade]

As you might guess, flak and maniac UwU

[serene sage]

Level 3 flak
Are you even trying

[rugged portal]

I haven't found a good place for the bolter after the new skills dropped. I guess melee vet would work best but, like, I could just play zealot.

[wooden oar]

Surgical is not a must in my opinion with handcannon to reliably kill crushers. I do use it on my revolver but it takes like one or two stacks to one shot a crusher. I think the replacement blessing your using is perfectly fine. Even more so cause your using your melee to kill most enemies and use revolver for elites/specalists etc.

[slow spade]

Its literally the only thing that's not maxed rolled pls don't bully D:

[slow garden]

Yeah im not sure how melee vet fits into things atm either

Anyone find a good use for it?

Compared to Zealot.

[slow spade]

Considering its one of the strongest vet builds

[umbral scaffold]

i don't play zealot so i can't compare

[serene sage]

Bolter is good to supplement melee nade vet

[slow spade]

Fits pretty well

[slow garden]

But is the 'strongest melee vet' build on par with the strongest zealot build?

[slow spade]

Squishier but far higher damage

[slow garden]

Hm, will check it out more then

[bold ibex]

The big caveat is build I think. On a focus hand cannon build, I think surgical is a must have because then you can reliably one-tap crushers and never have them stagger. But on a weapon switch build where you'll have to at least two tap them in the face... it's a lot iffier

[umbral scaffold]

infiltrate then magdump bolter into a wall of crushers then reloard the bolter by meleeing and switching weapon every now and then

[slow garden]

I'm honestly surprised.

[slow spade]

A good melee vet is also a very strong support due to their shout ult

[slow garden]

Because, well. Zealot can one shot a Daemonhost.

[serene sage]

Melee vet feels like it's carried by exclusive weapons ala PS6

[slow garden]

That is some DAMAGE

[slow spade]

If that's all you think of when thinking of Zealot, you should try playing a Zealot

[bold ibex]

is the Rashad exclusive to vets? 'cause thats probably our best weapon atm

[serene sage]

TH builds are far too specialized for my taste

[slow garden]

I do play one, though I don't build it for that.

Their melee ability is incredible though

[serene sage]

No zels can use it too but zels don't have PS

[slow spade]

Zealots don't have psword which is just pure glass cannon

[bold ibex]

then idk. Rashad is really, really strong. You just swing super fast and crit everything in the face for massive damage

[slow spade]

Then you got Shout for that durability without having you be AFK

[sharp epoch]

Yeah ps6 just carries the class pretty much and shout

run any other build you get overran pretty easily

[slow spade]

Rashad is good but not as good damage-wise, depends on goal

[serene sage]

I like Rashad because I dislike PS6

[mystic belfry]

Dealing damage to a demonhost is probably the least useful niche in the entire game

[serene sage]

Despite the game giving me 3 near perfect PS

Like thanks but no thanks

[slow garden]

It's a general analogy to their melee damage, as well

[wooden oar]

I hard disagree.

[foggy terrace]

stealth chainsword

[serene sage]

Nah

[slow garden]

Against bosses, ogryn, flak, etc.

DH bonk is just the example I drew from

[sharp epoch]

Stealth is detrimental to team so meh it just puts aggro on the others

[nimble sentinel]

infinite ammo lasgun

[tall torrent]

Top 2 vet melee weapons def are Rashad and PS6

[slow spade]

A psword melee vet will definitely outdamage a zealot

[foggy terrace]

Depends how you use it, for revives/mission completions it is VERY nice

I agree that bad use hurts the team

[slow spade]

But psword is pure glass

[slow garden]

Interesting, I will try it sometime

Sounds fun

[slow spade]

So it'll eat shit if the vet doesn't kill quick 👀

[foggy terrace]

but you can run really nice utility vet builds with it

[serene sage]

Nothing outdamage kickback

Checkmate atheist

[sharp epoch]

kickback is the only god build left

[slow garden]

True tho

[sharp epoch]

assail and surge have died 😔

[slow spade]

Kickback needs a buff

Same with plasma and revolver

[serene sage]

Revolver will be god after next patch buff

Trust

[slow spade]

Nerf recon too because it'd be funny

[slow garden]

Heh, maybe, we will see

[sharp epoch]

one shots everything

I just want an extra bullet on it man

[slow garden]

I am hoping they bring more of the weapons up

[serene sage]

That's in two patch

[slow garden]

Like I want to see a helbore draw time buff

[willow badger]

what is the rashad again

[serene sage]

This patch they will increase head hitbox

[slow spade]

Brb nerfing chainsword due to too much fun

[sharp epoch]

combat axe

[willow badger]

ah

[lost shadow]

this gud?

[slow garden]

I want to use that gun and try it but it's just a clunkier plasgun imo

[slow spade]

No power cycler, so unironically its not that good

But usable if wanted

[sharp epoch]

if by good u mean bad

[lost shadow]

can add power cycler later right?

changing supercharge

[slow spade]

Yes

[dull osprey]

Anyone knows what does finesse boost from Marksman Focus do..? Whats 7.5% ranged finesse power :S?

[lost shadow]

not gud?

[willow badger]

rate my ps

[slow spade]

Crit and weakspot hit iirc

[slow garden]

Needs power cycler to be great really

Unfortunately

[serene sage]

Finesse is crit damage and headshot damage

[lost shadow]

but I cannot trust to get everything on one drop, right?

I should buy it and fix it later

[dull osprey]

Ah, is it additive % or is it multiplicative, seems hard to keep the stacks up for marksman focus :S

[slow spade]

Very good sword

[lost shadow]

armoury doesn't sell yellows anymore? how will I get powercicle lvl 4?

[slow garden]

Melk bucks

Or roll a powersword to orange

[slow spade]

Just to make sure, you're not using a braced autogun with the marksmen keystone right?

[slow garden]

Or get it in a drop

[sharp epoch]

🤢

[dull osprey]

Using infantry atm

[midnight mortar]

Gambling at Brunt's Armory. :)))))

[slow spade]

Because someone said "marksmen keystone is bad" while simultaneously saying they don't go for headshots

[lost shadow]

gambling at brunt is best then?

[dull osprey]

What does braced auto gun do with marksman focus o.o?

[lost shadow]

what are melk bucks?

[midnight mortar]

And consecrating. :)))

[lost shadow]

oh the mission ones

[slow spade]

Shit lol, but there's been some braindead players using it then calling it bad lately

[midnight mortar]

Weekly contract currency.

[serene sage]

That's the point, almost nothing cause it's hard to get ranged heashot kills with it

[lost shadow]

I'm a bit sad i have played a lot, but on release and seems I can only buy one weapon

melbucks are hard to get

[dull osprey]

Ahh icic, yeah im mainly using infantry to get headshots

[slow spade]

I still chuckle at the guy that said Marksmen was bad then also saying "I don't go for hesdshots"

Like bro what

[serene sage]

Marksman Focus is best with Vraks series

[mystic belfry]

Ps6 is only arguably the best melee, combat axes are machines

[willow badger]

wmake sure you are visitng him when the contracts refresh

or you wont start counting towards the contracts

[frank ether]

I can see it for helbore 3

[serene sage]

Yeah lol

run headshot build
skip headshot
wtf this build sucks

[delicate moat]

can i encourage melk to give me more melk bucks, say, with a catachan perhaps

[frank ether]

you kinda just.. dont have to headshot for most basic mobs with it

[willow badger]

i dont have the aim skill to get consistent headshots sadly

[slow spade]

Helbore doesn't need marksmen keystone anyways so its largely wasted

The reload speed of helbore is reasonable too

[terse tusk]

is this worth the sour milk money? I don't have one of these and I'd probably reroll the perks but not the blessings (cuz i dont have any others unlocked lmao)

[serene sage]

More like you'll just accidentally headshot them spraying and praying

[lost shadow]

so blunt armory rng buying the same weapon again and again is my best source of yellows?

[frank ether]

Only need it to one shot crushers with volley fire activation

[willow badger]

sure why not

maybe recon will be buffed in future patches

[midnight mortar]

Correct.

[terse tusk]

is recon Bad™ rn?

[serene sage]

Are you into gold investments?

[delicate moat]

not ideal perks, not ideal blessings, a skip unless they let you disenchant in the future

[slow spade]

Its multiplicative, BUT it depends on your gun's base finesse which we don't know lmao

[frank ether]

but yea tldr if you play helbore you'll probably dislike marksman its just what it is

[willow badger]

nah the best way to buy stuff is just buy anything with good rolls in the normal shop

and then just collect them

[slow spade]

Laspistol is a reliable pick for marksmen keystone

[slow garden]

Tbh I would love the headshot build a lot more if the game didn't run off of feckin ironsights mate

Cant see shit aiming down my vraks

[slow spade]

MK12 and MG la are also good as well

[dull osprey]

Currently this is what i roll with

[midnight mortar]

Buy weapons from Brunt's Armory -> Sell anything lower than a 360+ base rating -> Consecrate the weapons with a base rating of 360+ -> Have fun hoping the slot machine rewards you -> Run out of plasteel -> Run missions -> Repeat.

[slow spade]

Vraks Headhunters like it too

[frank ether]

vraks isnt as slow as helbore

[slow garden]

Headhunter single shot is my fave headhunter

[frank ether]

also vraks 3 stacks it so fast

[slow garden]

But man

[willow badger]

i like mg iv lowkey

[frank ether]

cause you can hit 3 headshots in one burst lmao

[slow garden]

Its so shit in a lot of situations

[willow badger]

which one is the single shot headhunter again

[sharp epoch]

guys save plasteel their coming out with red weapons

[hollow ibex]

vraks vii

[slow spade]

Iirc Columbus's finesse isn't that high

[serene sage]

Everytime I see the 5 Carapace damage on the Columnus I chuckle

[slow spade]

Columbus likely wants the Ping keystone instead

[sharp epoch]

bro columbus with marksman is good

[serene sage]

I have 90k in stock

[sharp epoch]

i got 5k 😤

[slow spade]

Doesn't mean it wouldn't be better

[serene sage]

Tried it yesterday, can't keep more than 8 stacks consistently

[slow garden]

Red weapons with 4 modifiers and max stats would be cool

[bold ibex]

was this announced?

[slow garden]

4 changes, sorry*

[slow spade]

Locked behind aquillas UwU

[slow garden]

uwu

[serene sage]

uwu

[slow spade]

Lol no

[willow badger]

do you guys like the agri iag

[slow garden]

Lol nah we trolling

[willow badger]

or the gaia iag

[serene sage]

[delicate moat]

the mk1?

[sharp epoch]

skill issue fr

[slow spade]

Columbus is best imo just because dakka + good dps

[willow badger]

columnus is p lit

brrrrt gun

[slow garden]

Brrt

[sharp epoch]

maybe take ur eyeball off the stackss then yoy xan aim!!!

[willow badger]

like playing an smg lowkey

[serene sage]

😔 i know, I should be playing Psyker instead

[slow spade]

I run ping keystone too so I got rending to cover that low flak damage 💪💪💪

[willow badger]

i am noob so have never player any class but vet

[slow garden]

Guess I should try the columnus again

[delicate moat]

they need to add multipings

[slow garden]

I just end up missing the armor damage so much

[lost shadow]

I'm testing swords, I'm used to play with munitorium mk III, but guides seems to reccomend cadia chainsword MK IV, which I find super slow and bad against big waves or munotrum MK VI, which has less range than MKIII, can I know what's you guys favourite and why? I know the blessings aren't right on my ingame screenshot

[trim steppe]

I run ping keystone so bring maximum annoyance to my teammates

[delicate moat]

I want to have manual executioner's stance

[slow garden]

I like the pow sword, but yknow

[serene sage]

I don't run talents cause they are crutches

And I don't need them

[stark hollow]

what perks should i change

[slow spade]

Don't worry I only have a Zealot because I was absolutely baffled on why Zealots were so shit that I made one so I could learn

[sharp epoch]

it benefits a lot from landing weakspots so dont if ur a bodyshot god

[serene sage]

i also unbind my F key so I can't use ult

[slow spade]

I have concluded that Zealot players are indeed shit

[serene sage]

Don't need it

[slow garden]

Armored targets tho

[willow badger]

mk vi ps6 you can cancel your powerup into a block sto speed it up

[slow garden]

I pink that thing on an ogryn and it just eats my ammo

[topaz lance]

How do you use the chainsword?

[lost shadow]

like power sword, charge, swing

[slow spade]

Very carefully

[slow spade]

Lol

[lost shadow]

also chainsword gets stuck on minions

[topaz lance]

That'S not how you're supposed to use it

[stark hollow]

should i keep the level 2 maniac or should i swap +2 stam to something else

[slow spade]

You're thinking chainaxe

[slow garden]

Lots of berserkers atm this patch, so

[topaz lance]

Hordes is light spam, or heavy spam if you're safe

[slow garden]

maniac damage

[terse idol]

Huh?

[slow garden]

Imo

[serene sage]

Light spam for horde
Heavy rev for gunners/mutants
Light rev for everything else
Run if ragers/maulers/crushers
Rev for bleed stacking on bosses

[terse idol]

You gotta charge

[topaz lance]

noo

not the cs

[terse idol]

Oh

I thought we were talking PS

[topaz lance]

I was just asking to clarify 😉

[stuck wave]

for shovel do you guys do uncanny / decimator or is it fine to go skull crusher / decimator?

[willow badger]

chainsword just didnt feel good for me

[topaz lance]

cause it's everythng but slow in horde clearing, especially with those blessings

[serene sage]

And I'm taking that question literally. Cry about it.

[hollow ibex]

can this be saved lol

[willow badger]

ps6 you can push attack basically anything

is real fun when you have pc4

[lost shadow]

also another problem with chainsaw compared to powersword, powersword swings horizontally, hitting more enemies

[topaz lance]

That seems needlessly agressive but ok

[terse idol]

I really thought charged heavy swing on chainsword was good on hordes, doesn't it have a horizontal?

[willow badger]

do u have pc4?

[hollow ibex]

no, just pc3, i'd hold off on reblessing until pc4

[trim steppe]

This is incredible wtf. Roll second bless to PC and change sprint to carapace/maniac

[serene sage]

I am needlessly aggressive 😤😤😤😤😤

[hollow ibex]

oh ok, thanks, totally out of the loop, didn't know unyielding was desireable

[stark hollow]

anyone know which perk i should change? stam is kinda shit but maniac is super low

[slow garden]

bonk the mudkip

[willow badger]

do u guys prefer unyielding or maniac

[slow garden]

Maniac

[serene sage]

I prefer them both dead

[slow garden]

Those MFs everywhere these days

[topaz stream]

hello can anyo ne pls tell me what key it is to use the bayonet ive been trying for ages lol

[slow garden]

Krak grenade ogryns and shoot maniacs

[willow badger]

special attack

you might have to rebind it

i think the default is some weird mouse button 5

[slow garden]

Normally its middle mouse button

[stuck wave]

i can slap decimator 4 on so i just need a hand in deciding which one is decent to use

[slow garden]

But yeah you may need to rebind it

[stark hollow]

i could change stam to special so i do 25 to maniacs still right?

[topaz stream]

cheers

[terse idol]

Specs isn't maniac are they?

Unless trapper

[karmic musk]

Does only the Agrip BrAuto pierce enemies?

[lost shadow]

ok the more I use the chainsword the more I like it

[slow garden]

Trapper is only maniac spec I think yeah

All others are elites?

[serene sage]

Mutants are?

[lost shadow]

you guys reccomend it? cadia MK IV?

[slow garden]

Mutant is a spec?

Thought it was elite

[sharp epoch]

380 one

[serene sage]

Yeah mutant is specialist

[terse idol]

So what's maniac, Rangers mutants?

Weird

[slow garden]

Huh! Learn something new every day

[gaunt delta]

Dreg Rager is maniac, I’m pretty sure

[terse idol]

I would have thought mutant was maniac

[thick kestrel]

both flamers are maniacs

[slow garden]

My brain expands

[terse idol]

Both flamers, Ragers

[slow garden]

Mutant is maniac

[stark hollow]

ragers are elites

[terse idol]

Trapper

[sharp epoch]

mutie is maniac

[stuck wave]

thank

[gaunt delta]

What kind of armor do they have?

[south vessel]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2892198053

[serene sage]

Elites don't spawn in waves, they form patrol groups (except recently they added gunners as spawnable I think but it's rare)

[stark hollow]

so do i up maniac to 25 or change stam to something else like elite or specialists

[south vessel]

I use this every time I need to remember what's what

[stark hollow]

not sure

[sharp epoch]

I think elites come from waves now

[serene sage]

So if something pops out of the closet and not from you aggroing them from a platform

That's a specialist

[junior needle]

both flamers, muties, scab trappers are maniacs

[stark hollow]

i think all the ragers are elites

[sharp epoch]

I seen some come from already cleared flanks

[stone birch]

dreg ragers are maniacs, at least according to my psychanum testing numbers when I shoot them in the head

[serene sage]

Same but I think that's from faulty spawn locations

[gaunt delta]

“Elite Armor”? I don’t think that’s a thing.

[serene sage]

And not spawn closets

If that makes sense

[sharp epoch]

nah they changed stuffff

[south vessel]

All ragers are elites, one is maniac and one is flak

[stark hollow]

the ones that you can see walking around the map are elites

[sharp epoch]

elites spawn in waves now with the patrols thats why theres a billion ragers

[trim steppe]

Is there a reason why mauler headshots are considered flak damage with the plasma gun?

[serene sage]

I mean in horde events they can spawn in waves

[stark hollow]

and specialists are the ones you hear a sound and think "oh shit"

[serene sage]

But like normal walking i haven't seen them spawning from closets

[gaunt delta]

#ogryn-class message

[sharp epoch]

oh yeah but things dont spawn in normal walking

[sharp epoch]

Wait fr? If its happening they probably coded where every hit is the torso now kinda

[lost shadow]

should I upgrade this one? I guess penetration is not needed because I use the rew it for those, right?

[serene sage]

Easiest way for me is that elites are exactly that, they shoot or melee you better, run faster, tankier, that's it. No gimmick.

Specialist all have gimmicks

[slow garden]

Bad rating

[sharp epoch]

Bulwark gimmick!!!?

[slow garden]

Do not upgrade

[lost shadow]

thx

[slow garden]

Only upgrade 360 item level or above

[ruby hull]

Dreg rager is maniac, scab rager is flak

[slow garden]

It goes up to 380

[serene sage]

Technically they are tankier

[slow garden]

Also, the best dump stat is Mobility.

Save your plasteel friend

[lost shadow]

this one damage is bad, right?

[lost shadow]

thanks for the tips

[slow garden]

Not bad damage

[hardy ember]

Will we be getting hellguns for veterans soon?

[slow garden]

could be better

As long as it hits breakpoints your good

[serene sage]

Tfw you are so angry you becomes a separate armor type from unarmored

[gaunt delta]

Damage not great. Otherwise it’s pretty good

[lost shadow]

know where is that info?

[vague charm]

should I buy?

[serene sage]

Buy it for deadly accurate sure

[vague charm]

this one too

[gaunt delta]

Meh.

Low base, altho stat spread is p. good

[ruby hull]

I wish falter worked on the bayonet

If falter and unrelenting both worked on bayonet

[lost shadow]

this looks good

[slow garden]

Thats a good one

Also sorry, at work atm

[lost shadow]

gonna consecrate then

will report results, thanks for the help btw

[slow garden]

As for breakpoints, there are spreadsheets out there

Your welcome brother

Kill some heretics for me

Generally you want everything except mobility above 70% at least, but that's not mandatory, also.

[lost shadow]

how is it looking?

[slow garden]

Dev strike aint that good honestly

Damage to elites is pretty solid

I'd roll 1 more time

[lost shadow]

oh dear

[slow garden]

Thats good

[lost shadow]

yep

[slow garden]

Conc that baby

[lost shadow]

meh

[slow garden]

Not bad, pretty good

[terse idol]

Mauler heads are always Flak

[slow garden]

You can rip off the blessings

[sharp epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-smile-happy-cute-oof-gif-16086929

[slow garden]

and replace them

Its workable

[trim steppe]

They are carapace with everything else

[terse idol]

Yeah

[lost shadow]

both of them?

[terse idol]

But head

They're rot helms from V2

Heavily armoured head

Softer body

[slow garden]

I think there are better blessings out there personally, yes

[trim steppe]

Mauler bodies are flak, heads are carapace. Unless you use plasma then heads are flak too for some reason

[slow garden]

Move speed one might be nifty to have

[terse idol]

You always shoot maulers in the body

Oh woops

My brain

[slow garden]

But the cleave on crit one, ehhh

Kinda unreliable

[terse idol]

I wonder if that has to do with plasma pen?

That is very weird

[trim steppe]

crushers are still carapace with plasma tho which is why im confused

[terse idol]

Farshark pls

[gaunt delta]

#justFatSharkThings

[terse idol]

It doesnt make sense

[serene sage]

Remember Thy Grenade Be Swift?

I miss that stuff

[deft orchid]

Hi all. I have a gun like this on my vet. It was a quiet lucky roll. Do you suggest to change anything? Maybe the fire frenzy? I have a gun focused executioneers stance build.

It realy shreds anything but I wonder that do I can make it even better?

[slow garden]

I would advise but I don't know the blessings for the Columnus

I do recommend getting Maniac Damage % onto th eperk, swapping the +2 stam

The blessings seem good, but I am not sure if there are better ones available for that weapon or not

[serene sage]

Fire Frenzy and Dumdum is what you want yeah

[slow garden]

Nice

In that case you'd probably swap out the two perks for +25% damage to maniacs and either flak or unyielding, right?

[serene sage]

Swap both perks and that's a near perfect Columnus to me

[mystic belfry]

Flak and maniac

[slow garden]

Close enough to perfect for sure

Might as well be

[serene sage]

Yeah flak and maniac

[gaunt delta]

“Flakiac”

[slow garden]

Noice

[serene sage]

Honestly that thing is better than my current Columnus 😔

[mystic belfry]

Maniake

[slow garden]

I'm a plasgun kinda guy, what ranged vet weapon should I try next?

[crude wind]

what kind of build are you looking to use this in

[nimble sentinel]

So I have recommended many times over the benefits of shooting the horde, and upon looking at myself play the game I feel the need to clarify proper horde mag dumping etiquette

This is also entirely assuming you are running a crit-built lasgun and Shock Trooper

Chokepoint a distance away from the team: Excellent time to shoot the horde
Large waves coming from the same direction: Excellent time to shoot the horde
There's a horde in front of an Elite/Special: Excellent time to shoot the horde
The horde is in melee of your teammates and not yourself: Could be if they can't take care of it
When they're surrounding you and up in your face: Stop firing, and smack em

Always
Be
Constantly
DPSing
rEsponsibly

[nimble sentinel]

Lasgun mag dumper

[slow garden]

Sounds fun

[dull osprey]

Whats the dump stat on columbus infantry autogun?

[slow garden]

Mobility

[crude wind]

mob

also ammo

[dull osprey]

Okeis ty, how important is stability?

[slow garden]

Reasonably important on that weapon

[crude wind]

the difference between 50% ammo and 80 is almost negligable

Stability should be close to 80

[humble nova]

stat reforging when

[crude wind]

don't skimp on Stability kids

[slow garden]

Not on full auto weapons at least

[dull osprey]

Thanks

[slow garden]

You can kinda get away with bad stability on single shooters

[crude wind]

yeah u can but even then

[slow garden]

But its still not ideal

[crude wind]

not worth making life hard for the sake of dockets

unless ur flat broke

[slow garden]

0 dockets, no maidens

[nimble sentinel]

There is immense value in a non-stressful 9 to 5 that pays the bills and leaves a little bit more to spend on yours—OH right, guns

[tiny summit]

Yea I had a 60 stability columnus and then I got a 75 or 80 they have. It's such a night and day difference.

[gusty sonnet]

Doesnt matter if running shocktrooper + survivalist, but otherwise shooting into non mixed horde constantly is just trolling

[serene sage]

no I want my gun to kick like a bolter and you can't stop me

[crude wind]

you madman

[serene sage]

this is good though yeah?

[gusty sonnet]

Just play volter then

[serene sage]

im too tired to keep rolling

[nimble sentinel]

I run my gak ammo efficient as hell so I can ease the pressure when the poxers get in melee range and take aim at the elites while I'm at it, it's saved qutie a few runs actually

[crude wind]

when I started darktide I just promised myself I wouldn't bother with under 70 stability because I hate sway lol

[finite imp]

Feels like it takes forever for the bolter to realign sights even with great stab

[serene sage]

I... do. I play Bolter almost exclusively

[crude wind]

I've played with a 100% stability bolter 😉

[nimble sentinel]

I'm not shooting at EVERY horde mind you, just the ones that need dying quickly

[crude wind]

and it still isn't great hehe

but very good

[serene sage]

You see, you tap hipfire body and the recoil will headshot the second bullet

[nimble sentinel]

I got my groove where I can come out of a wave unscathed and net positive on ammunition without a single pick up

[serene sage]

let ignore the fact that two body shot will kill gunners anyway

[crude wind]

the bolter has weird breakpoints these days

[tiny summit]

If I got plenty of ammo and shooting looks OK. Imma shoot.

[serene sage]

you can one shot headshot gunners with longshot 12m out and Precision

that's the only one I tested and know

[gusty sonnet]

NGL, I'd rather they never raise the modifier cap, unless it's a level 5 upgrade or smth like this

[deft orchid]

executioneers stance, crit, elite killer in focus.

[umbral scaffold]

Okay, vet gamers

[serene sage]

or is it 15m out

i dont remember

[deft orchid]

no keystone

[umbral scaffold]

What can I do to make the shredder not deal shit damage?

[crude wind]

imo Columnus is not a great gun for executioners stance

[gusty sonnet]

That's the neat part, you don't

[crude wind]

but it is an exceptional weapon

[serene sage]

it seems better for middle tree with right dip

[idle carbon]

the game has doggedly refused to give me a decent shovel on either of my 2 vets until now, so I've no idea what to look for in one
for blessings, I'm guessing something like uncanny strike and maybe take a swing / hammerblow, but what about perks?

[deft orchid]

well i tested a couple of weapon, recon las included but with this i can dump out the most dps

[delicate moat]

Use the extended weapon customization mod to mod it into a boltpistol but with the borked hold animation - u shoot accurate for fear of shooting hand

[serene sage]

you see ivan

[crude wind]

yeah it has insanely high dps, i just don't think it really cares about executioner stance

[gusty sonnet]

Well a good shovel is hard to come by, it has like 12 blessings, but 2 actually good

[crude wind]

imo it's best served in aggressive, pushy builds

[serene sage]

Have you tried it with Vraks 7 or even the 3?

they are more suited for long range engagment autoguns

[crude wind]

agree with that statement

[nimble sentinel]

there's also shock trooper and a las

[slow garden]

Whats the best Vraks anyways, in folks opinion

[serene sage]

Columnus does seem to prefer the close and personal style, even if it's not quite melee

[delicate moat]

7 based

[gusty sonnet]

3-burst one

[serene sage]

7 for me, so single shot

[deft orchid]

i mainly use the stance for highlight targets to well focus on them 🙂 in critical situations when the team is overwhelmed

[slow garden]

Cool, I'll roll one sometime

[serene sage]

both vraks are good, i tried both

[crude wind]

my heart says VII but my head says III

[slow garden]

Single shot has a lot of problems at close range in my experience

Muties especially

[deft orchid]

yes it can be a good choice too.

[crude wind]

oh for sure it's a great ability but it's better suited to longer range engagements and semi auto weapons or weapons with easy tap fire, imo at least

[crude wind]

defo

[serene sage]

I think you can go exec stance but go middle tree for toughness/nades for those oh crap moments?
plus the tag can give toughness

I can't maintain Marksman Focus stacks on Columnus, maybe skill issue on my part but it seems too much effort

[deft orchid]

i will try it with headhunter guns however I find myself often is close range situations with shotgunners and elites, more often than in long range situations so i can kill them realy fast

[wheat violet]

Does the 10% rending work on ranged weapons?

[crude wind]

yup

[serene sage]

god I hope so

[wheat violet]

Also

[serene sage]

like 1/4 of the arsenal needs it to kill carapace

[wheat violet]

Kills with bayonets

Do they count like ranged or melee?

[crude wind]

that gun you have there, if you put Flak/Maniac on it with Dumdum and Fire Frenzy, will shred whatever you point it at within 10m

[deft orchid]

plus i use relentless so if there are more enemies i can continue the stance until they all die or i run out of ammo 😄

[serene sage]

melee

[crude wind]

especially if you go Precision Strikes

[serene sage]

it triggers agile engagement btw

funny stuff

[wheat violet]

Great

[zealous wyvern]

what agile engagement?

[crude wind]

25% damage on weapon swap for 5s

really good

[wheat violet]

I am having So much fun with mk 1 hellbore in Auric Damnation

[tall torrent]

I think it’s because plasma’s shot is wide and touches mauler’s torso
And the flak armored torso becomes priority calculation

[serene sage]

you know, the engagement that is agile

[zealous wyvern]

huh

nice

weird because it does not work for weapon specialist

[serene sage]

except with helbore bayonet you don't need to swap

[zealous wyvern]

so i thought it would not work for agile either

[crude wind]

i really like the I

[zealous wyvern]

i use mk2 for most of my playtime but did not know agile works with it

interesting

so it does at least something

i still wish weapon specialist worked with it

[wheat violet]

Just killing poxwalkers and flamers etc in one hit Is Fun

[zealous wyvern]

shooting -> buffs bayonet
bayonet kills -> buff shooting

would be nice

[trim steppe]

You can test it yourself. I was shooting above it's head so it could only clip the head, the residual effect was melting part of the helmet only, the damage was all flak

[serene sage]

justObesseFishthings

[zealous wyvern]

Oyasse

[tall torrent]

That’s weird

[serene sage]

maybe carapace was the friends we made along the way

[delicate moat]

why cant my vet have carapace armor

[tall torrent]

You technically do

[deft orchid]

i quickly draw up the skills : https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9aad1e89-7fa8-4cdd-9070-b0a95a7f83b5

[serene sage]

you have 3 teammates, they are your carapace armor ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[tall torrent]

The redacted penance final helmet is made of carapace armor

[wheat violet]

Ye

The final helmet is nice

Kinda Wish it had effect on your speach

Like slightly muffled voice

[deft orchid]

I see it as a mid-close range elite killer with crit focus and the essence of the whole build is relentless. very ammo efficient cuz the autogun has a lot of ammo and kills with few bullets. for the big guys, mainly for shild ogrins i use the granade

[wheat violet]

Made the mistake of going with Cadian Vet and all the screaming is pain

[deft orchid]

the drawback is that the gun has high swey and recoil. i will try it with headhunter i am curious

[lost shadow]

did anybody calculated around how many lvl 3 missions are needed to get enough plasteel to fully upgrade grey to yellow?

[serene sage]

I don't hate it. It's just without shout or iron will you will be very squishy for that engagement range. I think it will work, you just need to watch your toughness carefully and pick your battles.

[deft orchid]

yes and doge a lot 😄

[serene sage]

Impressive, 1M damage in 35 mins

That's p good

Oh it's the melee Maelstrom

Makes sense

[hardy ember]

Will we be getting hot shot lasguns anytime soon?

[tall torrent]

Grey to gold is just under 1500 plasteel

[swift ingot]

I’ve been trying to make exhilarating takedown work for me but I just can’t proc it consistently, skill issue on my part not an issue with the talent

[desert hawk]

[swift ingot]

But I started using out for blood recently and I absolutely love that talent, so I’m probably going to stick with that

[deft orchid]

u recommend fire frenzy or deathspitter?

[crude wind]

u have 2 open locks right?

[swift ingot]

@tall torrent also I’ve been using a modified version of the build you gave me yesterday and I’ve been enjoying it a lot

[tall torrent]

nice

[swift ingot]

Basically I took the points used to get duck and dive and the melee damage node to get shock trooper and the left node of the tag keystone and took competitive urge over bring ‘em down

Been working really well for me

Out for blood is a really nice talent

[robust oasis]

I can't be the only one wanting a node to make so seen you pop your ability you auto reload your gun

Like that was a skill but now veteran just doesn't have it

[swift ingot]

They gave that ability to Ogryn as a treat

[umbral scaffold]

Saving the cliche and incorrectly phrased question "Which is better?" I'll ask instead: What are the drawbacks and advantages concerning the headhunter autogun versus the infantry autogun?

[swift ingot]

Very good question that I have no answer too because I don’t use autoguns

[formal igloo]

yes the one on the right

[umbral scaffold]

I had heard they got a buff...?

[serene sage]

I don't think that will ever happen again, given how they give the right tree a stop gap where melee kills reload your guns

[nimble sentinel]

Beat the pants out of a heretic captain with a stoned zealot and big E-money gave me this for my time, what am I looking to upgrade, if not throw into the brick pile?

[serene sage]

one set is semiautomatic with blessings geared toward long range engagement with high finesse bonus
the other set is automatic weapons with blessings geared toward mid-close range engagement that synergizes with rend/brittle stacking?

[robust oasis]

True but still

[serene sage]

they are quite distinct imo

[swift ingot]

Could probably leave the perks as they are and go for better blessings like decimator and uncanny strike

Overall it’s a pretty good shobel as far as stats and perks

[unkempt lagoon]

With ET fixed its a pretty good talent to grab right

[swift ingot]

Yup, not for me tho, I can’t hit heads for shit

Despite maining laspistol which thrives off weakspot hits

[old prism]

Lmao, you can't say a talent's name, it gets autoblocked

I've done some testing, seems like ChOnk in the armour is not giving me any rending AT ALL. Can anyone confirm

[swift ingot]

Oh I see why it’s blocked

[old prism]

lmao

[swift ingot]

But I’m not sure about the talent

[old prism]

okay so

[swift ingot]

I haven’t really dipped into the right tree

[old prism]

here are the numbers without CHONK in the armour

173

Number with Rending Strikes middle path

279

[tall torrent]

Headhunter autogun:

• high zoom in ADS (makes headshots at range easier but unwieldy up close)
• obstructive iron sights
• lower recoil with high headshot damage
• can utilize Headhunter, Surgical & Deadly Accurate blessings for bursts of damage
• very low maniac damage (very noticeable vs Mutants & Dreg Ragers)
• slower reload speed

Infantry autogun:

• rapid fully automatic fire with high DPS for most enemies (works well with Onslaught talent to melt armored enemies)
• flashlight is adaptable in many environments
• high headshot damage, but recoil makes continuous headshots harder
• faster reload speed
• better iron sights (has some visual deviation from actual shot placements in automatic fire)
• utilizes Dum Dum, Deathspitter and Fire Frenzy to amp up its damage in automatic fire

[old prism]

number with CHONK in the armour:

173

So:
Without any rending blessings: 173
CHONK in the armour supposed to be %10 but still: 173
Middle Row %10 talent (Rending Strikes): 279

Lets see if we run both

Still 279

this means, CHONK in the armour is not working AT ALL lmao

all testing was done with 10 focus stacks.

so I am literally spending a point for 0 benefit?

[robust oasis]

Real talk when are we getting Bolter and Revolver variants

[nimble sentinel]

imma go try and replicate this

[old prism]

Can someone confirm that "CHONK in the armour" is not working?

[old prism]

please do, it will be so funny if Fatshark made a talent that does absolutely nothing

[serene sage]

Which talent?

[old prism]

CHONK in the armour, the original apparently is also a slur

[serene sage]

Dink?

[serene sage]

I'm confused

[old prism]

it is ch

no d

[serene sage]

Oh lmao

[nimble sentinel]

works for me

[old prism]

Interesting

[nimble sentinel]

lemme try with 10 stack

[old prism]

can you try a headhunter vraks mk7

[spring cloud]

It is a derogatory term commonly used towards those of asian ethnicity.

[serene sage]

Yeah i got that

I'm Asian kek

[viral nacelle]

I wish I could rename my vet to nade babe

[spring cloud]

Ah, hello CHONK

[serene sage]

That's very fat phobic of you 😤

[nimble sentinel]

ah hell I messed up my screens

[old prism]

lmao

[spring cloud]

Lmao

[old prism]

i'll try a kantrael real quick to see

[whole moon]

taboo words changes with society, wasnt too long ago anthing you wore over your crotch was called 'unmentionables' were a prudish race

[old prism]

lmao wait

[nimble sentinel]

@old prism you're onto something

[old prism]

bruuuh

[nimble sentinel]

it only applies if you're ABOVE 10 stacks

[deft orchid]

yep, i can switch the fire frenzy

[nimble sentinel]

requires long range assassin, useless with camouflage

wanna upload the bug report?

[old prism]

too lazy 😦

[nimble sentinel]

I got it

[old prism]

thanks mate

[nimble sentinel]

darn I need to make a forum post

do we have a dev we can ping or something?

or if anyone here has a forums account and wants to post it, you are free to use my screenshots

[crude wind]

I would probs change perks, what were they again?

[old prism]

Ok wait one sec

[deft orchid]

i have fire frenzy 3 and dumdum 4

[viral nacelle]

Ok… is it wrong to troll someone who used Adolf and himmler in their name by triggering host?

[old prism]

15 stacks, that does

76 dmg

[viral nacelle]

My thought is you live by the edge you die by the edge

[stuck crystal]

There's 2 people you're also trolling though

[stuck crystal]

And they don't have those names

[viral nacelle]

That’s true

[stuck crystal]

I'd just report and play the match anyway

[viral nacelle]

You’re a better person than me

[old prism]

that's still 76

so what the hell is going on here

im on 15 stacks, so this ain't a 10 stacks thing

[nimble sentinel]

Huh

[old quail]

crits have innate rending

so when u have really shitty performance vs an armor type and u crit the value is way higher than u would expect if u didnt know about it

[old prism]

no this is not that josho

%!0 rending i n middle tree works as intended

[crude wind]

No what perks are on it?

[old prism]

it should be the same results

but it aint boosting damavge

[old quail]

are u changing the distance you're shooting at

[covert beacon]

that's from the weapon customisation mod, those are my settings for it

[old prism]

i am not moving, no

[deft orchid]

oh perks not blessings sorry. increased crit chance 5% and stamina +2

[swift ingot]

I did this to my bolter

[nimble sentinel]

Aight, I guess we advise against taking CHONK in their armor then?

[old prism]

we gotta test it a bit more

because it feels like it aint working for me at all

is it completely broken? does it work under some circumstances

[swift ingot]

Literally just

[serene sage]

https://tenor.com/view/elissa-slater-spit-take-laughing-meme-bb15-spitting-water-gif-25228287

[covert beacon]

that's teeny tiny for a commisar

[swift ingot]

Nuh uh it’s perfectly average size

[old prism]

gotta say tho, I ain't surprised fatshark actually borked something lmao

[nimble sentinel]

yeh CITA is busted

[serene sage]

It's 6 inches from butt to tip

[old prism]

standing ovation honestly

[spring cloud]

You measure from the butt?

[swift ingot]

Barrel is half an inch at best

[nimble sentinel]

aight, so we gotta tell everyone we know CITA is a broken trait

[old prism]

spend one point, get nothing kekw

[serene sage]

Well at least I'm 6ft tall

[quaint valve]

What's broken?

[spring cloud]

If you count the chair you're standing on?

[swift ingot]

[old prism]

CHONK in the armour, that %!0 rendin trait on the left keystone veteran

[nimble sentinel]

I unfortuantely cannot actually type the name of the trait

[serene sage]

We have people making dick jokes and people solving bug problem at once, sprinkled with accidental racism.

[nimble sentinel]

same damage on a crusher with and without in the psykhanium

[serene sage]

What a time to be alive

[old prism]

xD

lets try it on another enemy real quick

[spring cloud]

Oh, there is no accident here.

[covert beacon]

'course that's what a karking commisar would say, starting to sound like a damn cadian too

[quaint valve]

Well saves me a talent point so that's fine

[daring peak]

hows this for a bolter?

[quaint valve]

Stats are fine, start praying to Hadron

[nimble sentinel]

fight a genestealer cult and you have all 3 in one go

[daring peak]

good start

[quaint valve]

Let us know how it goes

[daring peak]

i think

[swift ingot]

Funnily enough my guy is Loose Cannon which makes it even better for larping as a Commissar

[old prism]

the talent's completely borked, doesn't matter what you shooting

beautiful coding, fatshark

[quaint valve]

Yeah perfect first blessing, I hate you already

[shrewd sierra]

That honestly looks sick

[daring peak]

is it worth going for the second blessing?

[covert beacon]

just a commisar saying very anti commisar things sounds about right

[stuck crystal]

Not surprised it took people a while to find. Shows how many people run MM Focus

[old prism]

as expected

[quaint valve]

Yeah I would since you can reroll both perks and +carapace on it already isn't bad

[serene sage]

Hit it fam

[serene sage]

Hit it hard

[covert beacon]

thank you! I love to use it too as it's just a massive gun to blow apart heretics

[old prism]

yeah, not a much used keystone for obvious reasons. I seriously play it sometimes with a revolver to one shot crushers with crouchingtiger veteran flak cannon build lmao

[swift ingot]

Fuckin send it

[daring peak]

i got calvacade

[spring cloud]

So they need to fix the fix, sounds standard for games in 2023.

[swift ingot]

Still salvageable

[serene sage]

YOLO it

Don't change a thing

[tall torrent]

this is fine

[serene sage]

I'm serious

Keep as is

[daring peak]

aight

[serene sage]

Be adventurous

[quaint valve]

Honestly for my play style, I mag dump and I would run it

[nimble sentinel]

that's about all the enemies I can shoot from the loadout box that don't die in 1 crit

[old prism]

did you do the bug report or should I do it

[nimble sentinel]

perk's broken

gotta make a forum account, so go ahead

[old prism]

aight

[nimble sentinel]

happy to help broski\

[sage agate]

what blessings should i roll for on this, or should i just change the perks?

not really an iag main

[golden axle]

raking fire can be pretty pog btw

[shrewd sierra]

Gaming in 2023 is getting a patch to fix the game with a hotfix for the patch that fixes the game so it actually fixes the game but that hotfix then needs a fix.

[quaint valve]

Id swap ranged crit for maniac and save the second reroll

[brave verge]

raking fire is pretty nice on infiltrate vet

you'd probably want flak or maniac in your perks

[sage agate]

i run squad lead with this build, but i'll try to be flanky

[tall torrent]

just flak is fine

[quaint valve]

Probably both blessings to any combo of dumdum, frenzy, or that other close range damage one

[tall torrent]

IAGs melt maniac targets very fast

[quaint valve]

Oh yes forgot you want flak

[sage agate]

change crit or infested for flak?

i dont imagine iag is very crit-dependent