veteran-class

[mystic belfry]

... not really?

[bright cliff]

you mean “intentional”

[sharp ember]

a gun with low investment costs i think could be plasma gun. The only truly recommended blessing for it is Gets Hot, so you can just refine good perks and have an effective tool

[jaunty sphinx]

worth keeping or did hadron fuck it

[craggy glade]

one of a million things they made and promptly forgot about

[jaunty sphinx]

idk shit about chainsword rolls

[tardy turtle]

keep

[zealous wyvern]

SUNDER

[bright cliff]

shatfark ingenuity

[craggy glade]

just change the perks to infected and unarmored/flak

[zealous wyvern]

shatter their skull to reveal the rot within

[jaunty sphinx]

ty

[zealous wyvern]

only then may they find salvation in His embrace

[jaunty sphinx]

I wanted rampage since I barely use the rev but this is good too

[white minnow]

it reduces both

[craggy glade]

wrath and rampage are ideal

[craggy glade]

Not according to crab

[white minnow]

unless they changed it this patch

i tested it on patch 12 only

[craggy glade]

Crab proved it only did intital a while back

[white minnow]

how long ago?

[craggy glade]

months ago

[gritty dock]

Probably the best perks are flak and Maniacs.

[warm idol]

how's the colombine infantry auto? I just got a decent roll of it and thinking of upgrading it

[craggy glade]

could of stealth patched it since then

[shell berry]

I can fix her

[white minnow]

I know that it worked on patch 12, so it probably works now

not that I would ever take grim corruption res anyways

[craggy glade]

maybe but its still anus compared to toughness/hp/annoying prick dmg

ye

[raw turtle]

Isnt savage sweep better than wrath?

[zealous wyvern]

where is the MK XIV chainsword

[trim steppe]

Thats my understanding

[jaunty sphinx]

yeah I was hoping to get a better version of this I got from melk

kinda wanna just swap bottom perk off it

[shell berry]

Sweep and Bloodletter are my fave personally

[jaunty sphinx]

and take the L on one of the perks

[craggy glade]

both are fine

[jaunty sphinx]

God I hate this crafting system.

[craggy glade]

I wouldnt say one is flat better then the other since its the same overall cleave in a horde

[shell berry]

A lot of "suboptimal" blessings are perfectly fine.

[craggy glade]

that is going to be hard to top

[bold ibex]

flak is always pretty solid. idk about unarmored but... that's overall a really solid weapon.

i'd save a swap slot if you change your mind on wrath I suppose

[jaunty sphinx]

yeah

[bold ibex]

iirc there's some glitch that makes wrath give damage atm for chainsword but idk if that's been fixed or will be fixed

[jaunty sphinx]

that explains a lot

[craggy glade]

"laughs in rev, limbsplitter, and half the other melee blessings"

[bold ibex]

rev is legit fantastic if you're not melee focused

you can swap to your other weapon and chain the uptime

[craggy glade]

its too much time on certain weapons to just give you a 2 sec speed boost

unless theres some goofy exploit for it

[trim steppe]

Oops, I think I played a bit sloppy with the plasma

[prime vault]

Is this from a mod?

[craggy glade]

mfw the one I have is Shred/Dev strike which is numerically worse then wrath/rampage in every way

https://tenor.com/view/faint-guyfalling-jailsentence-prison-gif-4573116

[midnight mortar]

The scoreboard mod, yes.

[bold ibex]

all you do is use it, swap at the last moment, swap back, use it. It's faster than derevving and you can chain it. Otherwise on chaxes and similar, you can rev, land a special, and the speedboost will let you backstep away while stuck in the rev animation.

i solo'd a demonhost like that once

[sharp ember]

yeah but don't fixate on the made up score ratings, raw data is all you could want

[prime vault]

Probably best to compare to just yourself. Like set goals of taking less damage and then seeing if you're successful

[craggy glade]

is that rly better then a raw damage/cleave boost though if you arent kiting solo stuff doe?

[trim steppe]

After playing around a bunch more this afternoon I revise my opinion to agree with you, ET and Precision are not really good picks for the Plasma. Good call, I woulda been wasting those points for a while before I learned better.

[ebon umbra]

plasma rev it up uptime

https://tenor.com/view/yoongi2swag-gif-22464848

[river escarp]

Is this lucky ?

[prime vault]

gonna fiddle with crit-fish laspistol. What other modification should I make to this gun?

[sharp ember]

that can be made good, just missing the strongest blessing, Power Cycler. Keep a refinement slot ready to replace a blessing with it whenever you find one

[craggy glade]

Infernus and flak

replace dum dum

[bold ibex]

nope, its' super situational

[prime vault]

So move the crit chance to flak?

[trim steppe]

It is... ok. All 4 things are suboptimal. Ideally you want Power Cycler / Brutal Momentum and Flak/Maniac/Elite/Unarmored. But Slaughterer Rampage are pretty good, and Carapace is ok. I'd roll infested damage to elite/maniac and rampage to Power Cycler (if you have it)

[bold ibex]

replace rampage with power cyler and you're golden. it's amazing otherwise

[craggy glade]

this

[craggy glade]

the other perk

[river escarp]

Still don't have Power Cycler ye

[craggy glade]

well.......

[bold ibex]

idk why people keep insisting on brutal momentum on power swords. Either go wrath for consistent, tons o cleave or the thing that gives omnicleave on empowered attacks.

[craggy glade]

actually

mmmm

[prime vault]

I already replaced +1.5 stamina with +5% crit

[craggy glade]

with las pistol you might be able to get away wtih those perks on pistol

[trim steppe]

Because its objectively great is why

[sharp ember]

brutal momentum really does increase your kills per swing if clinking off crushers isn't a concern

[bold ibex]

if you don't have powercycler then.... don't spend both mod slots and just use it as is. Maybe upgrade one of the perks. I'd personally recommend swapping infested out to maniac or flak. Carapace is good.

[craggy glade]

you already have good cleave on PS

[prime vault]

I'll replace Between the Eyes with Infernus whenever I get that blessing. After I outgrow the gun I'll throw it away for the dumdum blessing

[craggy glade]

BM is overkill

[bold ibex]

So does wrath, which further magnifies power sword's already good cleave.

[craggy glade]

did they fix dum dum?

[bold ibex]

post nerf, brutal momentum is fiddly and if you end up hitting elites that don't get ohko'd without the charged attakc you're sol

[craggy glade]

or any of the "short range" blessings from 8 M?

[bold ibex]

nope. still chooches.

[craggy glade]

lmao

FS literally invalidating whole blessings for months

and still has locks

[trim steppe]

Its not about the cleave, empowered swings already have crazy cleave. Its about damage distribution. When BM procs the rest of the hits in your swing take full damage, letting you 1-shot a ton of stuff. Normally the damage drops with each target so you kill maybe 2 bruisers and then need to hit the rest again

[paper anchor]

[craggy glade]

I actually forgot the hit mass degrades dmg

[sharp ember]

new BM lets you deal full 1st strike damage to like 5 enemies before normal cleave falloff actually kicks in

i know boko just said lol

as long as they die, which trash will

[craggy glade]

another mechanic I have to fuckin write down bec Fatshart doesnt include tool tips for karkin anything

[bold ibex]

I genuinely thought +cleave also increased cleave damage. If it doesn't work that way, I'd concede Brutal Momentum is pretty swanky if you're full damage instead of ridiculous targets

[strange schooner]

I'm loving the toughness granting shout. It make team strong. Strong team good.

[craggy glade]

I currently have cycle 3/4 slaughter 4

[craggy glade]

Its becuase it doesnt tell you that Hit mass degrades dmg

so by ignore hit mass it does full dmg

[bold ibex]

Right, but wouldn't +cleave also reduce the degraded damage?

[sharp ember]

BM is worded poorly and doesn't explain its damage falloff reset on headshot kill

[strange schooner]

Also how would I fix this up?

[bold ibex]

i wish supercharge applied before doing damage. that would make it so solid. :<

[craggy glade]

how the kark does it work then?

[brisk umbra]

fix what? it's perfect

[strange schooner]

Block Efficiency?

[brisk umbra]

(i mean stats are a bit low and you need better perks, but the blessings are 10/10)

[strange schooner]

Yeah I dunno what perks to go for on it, I know it's good blessings!!

[brisk umbra]

just slap on it Flak and... carapace i would guess

[trim steppe]

I'd reroll your perks to maniac/flak/carapace depending on what you want to kill with it

[brisk umbra]

the maniac damage with that axe is so shit

i honestly don't think 25% does anything

[trim steppe]

like what gun it is complementing will determine what you want it to take out quick

[bold ibex]

when you say 'if weakspot', does it require weakspot kill or just to hit the first weakshot?

[craggy glade]

Brutal Momentum provides first target damage to the first 4 targets hit (if weakspot), then continues with second target damage.

Literally how does that translate to "ignore hit mass"?

I belive you but still

what the kark

[bold ibex]

if it doesn't require weakspot kill, that's a gamechanger... though I don't notice that on my antax. Maybe i'm just hitting bodyshots.

I also wonder... if let's say the first hit doesn't weakspot/weakspot kill but the cleave continues nd kills someone; does it then get full damage the rest of the swing?

[bronze palm]

It's fatsharkese, they use it on all the blessing and trait descriptions

[bold ibex]

omg. melt. Melt my man

[craggy glade]

Wait, Crab works for Fatshark????

[midnight mortar]

He's just a playtester.

[strange grove]

antax has a usable special attack tho

[craggy glade]

I was about to say

[strange grove]

rashads is trash

but I still prefer rashad

[craggy glade]

if Crab was working for FS the Blessings would be far less mogged

[bold ibex]

only caveat I see is brutal momentum isn't as worth on the dueling powersword because its slashes are wonkier diagonals instead of perfect horizontal cleaves.

[craggy glade]

I mean its still risky on mk 3 because it requires a clean lineup of heads on a heavy swing

[white minnow]

it's fine for the mk6 since lights are enough to one-shot bruisers

[bold ibex]

should I replace crit chance with maniac?

[trim steppe]

That's true of the mk3 too

[sharp ember]

OBJECTION: you can use it on a mutie's face to stop their charge

[craggy glade]

I def. need to clean up my melee weapon knowledge since ive been just ungaing with the same shit on heavy/light chain

[white minnow]

yeah, just responding to the comment about it not being as worth it on the duelling psword (mk6)

[warm idol]

yknow for how shit the rolls are 99% of the time

[strange grove]

Yep, why I stick with Rashad

[warm idol]

they really need to make upgrading cheaper

is it just me

[trim steppe]

Gotcha, my reading comprehension is mutant

[warm idol]

or is it more expensive compared to launch

[white minnow]

simply intuit the context of my comment through the morphogenetic field

[craggy glade]

what exactly is the difference beteen 3 and 6 asside from the swing pattern and finnese?

[mystic belfry]

Wdym, it's one of the best two blessings for it

[warm idol]

doesn't mean they should increase it without making upgrading feeling more worth it

[white minnow]

i don't know the specific numbers, but the mk6's push-attack combo is much better for carapace

[warm idol]

finding a good base roll is annoying as is

[midnight mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1174918929903267840/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.11.16_-_21.47.31.04.mp4?ex=65695785&is=6556e285&hm=bb24cb37edbabe5c85d8866052cb2eb6911c6eb1b7b330be8c00b71e2ee6124e&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1174918931664863282/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.11.16_-_21.47.08.03.mp4?ex=65695786&is=6556e286&hm=6dec651d803d9cca10535540c8d4a8c97d7fe084051e788aad9a77c98cadc927&
Slowdown on energize for one.

[warm idol]

then you upgrade it and it's all dog

[steep vault]

can anyone tell me what do I want on a chainsword?

[craggy glade]

so its basically like the power hammer situation asside from ironhelm being ratass now?

[steep vault]

I got a few 370+ and I'm looking forward to making a chainsword build

[trim steppe]

If you're small brain (like me) use mk3 cuz it go brrrrr, if you're big brain use mk6 cuz it has wombo combos

[white minnow]

the lights with brutal momentum are good enough to clear bruisers/poxwalkers/groaners, and the push-attack -> l4 combo can dink maulers/crushers pretty well, and that's doing well for me so far

[warm idol]

I personally use ravage and the blessing that gives you cleave on hitting multiple enemies

[bold ibex]

i was thinking that the diagonals would make weakspots iffier but someone else pointed out they fixed the priority issue that used to be there.

Though I'll never bother making another one. Have a basically perfect one with the +brittleness on powered hit instead. Which does put in work against bosses.

[craggy glade]

It was hard enough to farm for a good mk3 so im in the same boat as you

melee for me just is to clear hordes anyway

[steep vault]

ravage? I don't see it on the blessing list

[warm idol]

erm

[steep vault]

is it rampage?

[warm idol]

the one that gives you damage on hitting a few enemies

I guess I was mistaken with the name

[steep vault]

ah

thanks

I'll get to it

[mystic belfry]

The two-hit combo of my PoS

[warm idol]

god

I wish I had power cycler

[mystic belfry]

I'm missing damage and carapace and possibly some of the skills you run

I two-shot on a crit

Like i said, on my PoS

Yeah I'll probably swap it over

But I was more just showing the damage it does even when it's garbage

[strange grove]

I have sunder 4 , cycler 4 PS. 543.

I never use it

Mk6

Shovel to goated

[craggy glade]

So 6 you just activate, and just spam lights in between push and blocks?

thats basically a power dueling sword then

[mystic belfry]

You do one of two things mainly. Either light light light, or push attack light

Light 4 is a strikedown, and it combos out of the push attack

[strange grove]

When heavy on PS?

[mystic belfry]

Basically never

[craggy glade]

it would seem you dont on 6

[bold ibex]

only downside with the push attack is just due to wonkiness, you only get one charged strike even with power cycler... but it does only slightly less damage than a three hit combo so. usually worth.

They really should extend power cycler's duration though. :<

[craggy glade]

doesnt that gimp BM though since you only get 1 weakspot hit though?

[mystic belfry]

When you kill something with a weakpoint hit, you act as if you didn't cleave them, for up to like 3 additional targets

[bold ibex]

How? Even cancelling it fizzles after one for me.

[mystic belfry]

The iffiness with power cycler is because it stops when your attack chain ends

Like push attack -> light attack

[craggy glade]

This feels like fkin WoW with the amount of fkin numbers and teching

[mystic belfry]

You don't need 3 hits if you build it well though

Welcome to horde shooters

Same shit in vermintide and killing floor 2 :v

[strange grove]

In L4D2 we didn’t have stats 😛

[craggy glade]

Its is not that hidden number/ability heavy in either KF

I cant speak for Verms

[mystic belfry]

L4D2 had stats, they were just simple

[craggy glade]

Im chalking this up to FS math tomfoolery

[bold ibex]

i'm kinda tempted to do a mk6 build without powercycler. just whatever gives max damage for the single empowered stab.

[craggy glade]

and sweedish goblinism

[strange grove]

KF3 next year too 😎

[mystic belfry]

Really not worth doing that at all, but it's your life

[craggy glade]

im sure it'll be the same reception as Payday 3

[mystic belfry]

Getting just power cycler lvl 3 is functional though

One extra charge enables push attack -> light attack, and light light

Two charges enables light light light

[sharp ember]

it works fine for me, are you hitting something when practicing?

[strange grove]

I hope not

[craggy glade]

not even 2 months in

[bold ibex]

yeah you're probably right. Better to just practice whiffing the first light combo attack so the fourth light hit is still empowered.

[craggy glade]

https://tenor.com/view/megatron-transformers-decepticon-starscream-laughing-gif-7360447

[strange grove]

Isn’t payday different people?

[trim steppe]

Hot take: Either weapon locks should exist or all weapon bases should be equal/perfect, not both. I wanna master weapon play styles not play a never ending slot machine

[mystic belfry]

... Why?

[craggy glade]

yes, I was just draing a parallel to two companies

[bold ibex]

fourth hit is strikedown with bonuses against certain things.

[south garnet]

Anyone know what range longshot gives the 20% base damage at?

[strange grove]

Oh lol

[south garnet]

How far away we talking?

[craggy glade]

Kf3 will be DoA

[bold ibex]

To be clear you're talking about doing 3 push attack stabs in a row with power cycler still working through them?

[mystic belfry]

Push attack chains into light four.

[strange grove]

I dunno. Game series is popular. I love my flamer and commando

[sharp ember]

ohh yeah you cannot do multiple push attacks, only 1 push attack and then keep swinging

[bold ibex]

Oh! That makes a lot more sense.

[zealous wyvern]

i think the coolest thing they could do for gear in darktide is
give us red items: they let you change every single perk/blessing for higher price+they are always 80%

[craggy glade]

"popular"

[zealous wyvern]

i would love that

[austere blade]

Do you guys still run Confirmed Kill or am I better off with something else

[craggy glade]

my brother in the Emperor, the series has been dead for 6 years

[strange grove]

It is. KF2 came out ten thousand years ago. Which is why low player count

[craggy glade]

tripire literally outsourced the developemt halfway though

[bold ibex]

yeah i misunderstood. thanks though. I can now two/three tap crushers np np without a lot of cheesing

[craggy glade]

KF was already super niche

[zealous wyvern]

kf2 is popular. sure its aged by now and not played by many but the series is very popular. that does not have to mean there are currently many players

no

[bold ibex]

but what about engagement?

[sharp ember]

it's either 30m or 40m where it maxes out, you can test with a plasma gun which doesn't have falloff vs flak i think

[south garnet]

just pinging this one more time in case someone knows

[zealous wyvern]

red weapons would be rare

[south garnet]

oh perfect, alright thanks!

[zealous wyvern]

that is the engagement

[trim steppe]

If nothing else, it would be cool to pay like 100 diamantine to remove a single lock from a single weapon, with no limit. Finally give us something to do with diamantine that still promotes their weird hard-on for resource grinding

[zealous wyvern]

pretty much only drop on t5 auric

[mystic belfry]

Kf2 is great, I just petered off of it

[zealous wyvern]

you can sometimes get one on t5

blue moon

[strange grove]

As long as Tripwire does t pull a Turtle Rock Studios

[bold ibex]

but then if you got them, fat shark couldn't force you to refarm everything by randomly nerfing things the community dares using

[strange grove]

That vid comparing L4D2 to B4B was epic. Valve really were the goats

[zealous wyvern]

i do not think that is intentional

[rain badger]

KF2 is only fun on modded servers, but the difficulty (enemy health and damage) chained to player # can wreck you if you’re not careful

[south garnet]

5k diamantine for 1% weapon stat improvement

[sharp ember]

kf2 had its time in the spotlight, it fell off once they started outsourcing weapon animations and weapon dlcs didn't have the same level of detail

[zealous wyvern]

they are not competent enough to do that

[shell berry]

Is this enough Pen

[craggy glade]

my dude its average playecount has been 5k asside from 3 months

[trim steppe]

Fr

[craggy glade]

one was release the other 2 were patches

[mystic belfry]

Or hear me out, just let people chang whatever fucken blessing or perk they want instead of abitrarily extending the grind in a reaching grasp to keep people playing, and just give people a game fun enough to continue playing

[bold ibex]

What happened to boltguns and revolvers is pretty blatant tho

[rain badger]

KF1 was pog, KF2 was good, but didn’t have the crispness that KF1 had

[craggy glade]

just check steam stats

[zealous wyvern]

and yet if you ask anyone about killing floor, they played it

[mystic belfry]

We'd still be rolling stats regardless

[craggy glade]

yea bec we all play horde shooters you nub

we are all the same 5k goons that buy horde shooters

[zealous wyvern]

no darktide is the second horde game i play

my friends are not horde people

they are just gamers

i did not mean people in here

[mystic belfry]

Do you know how few people I talk to irl that have any idea what killing floor, verminitide, or darktide are?

[zealous wyvern]

i actually did not like kf2 much

bleh

[mystic belfry]

Like basically no one, really.

[bold ibex]

I don't have high hopes for KF3. KF2's monetization suuucked and they fired their, what was it, founder because he was conservative on a personal account. That was pretty shitty.

[trim steppe]

Ridiculous, this is a game for gambling addiction not for fun

[craggy glade]

literally just look at steam stats

[rain badger]

Vet skill tree doesn’t have nodes for -weapon recoil or recovery

[mystic belfry]

Aim better

[craggy glade]

the vet tree is mogged 6 ways to sunday

[zealous wyvern]

any person that actually plays video games other than nba and sims

yes

they know what kf is

in my experience anyway

[mystic belfry]

Killing floor sometimes

[rain badger]

“Git gud”

[craggy glade]

thats my point

[zealous wyvern]

but its not true

[strange grove]

I just want Space Mahreeeen 2

[craggy glade]

its literally 5k avg for the whole life of the game

[zealous wyvern]

do you ask normies?

i am talking people who spend their day playing games

like 3-4 hours at least

which is pretty normal nowadays

[sharp ember]

i'm worried it's gonna get delayed

[craggy glade]

It already was delayed

[sharp ember]

WHAT

[zealous wyvern]

i just want the release date to be accurate even if it takes an extra year

delays suck

[strange grove]

😥 better not

[limpid hull]

gonna be honest gents. i feel like they shadow nerfed vets durability. and its not from any toughness gain, but toughness dmg resist

[craggy glade]

it used to be september this year

now its winter 2023

[limpid hull]

half as durable on the same kind of toughness build before update

[sharp ember]

oh okay but we're still slated for december

[craggy glade]

yeah

for now

[strange grove]

I want to play SM2 coop with Henry Cavill. What are the odds of that happening?

[sharp ember]

THAT'S what i'm scared of

delay into next year

[craggy glade]

hes too busy making 40k movie

[south garnet]

kf1 was the better game, even with all the stuff I like in kf2. It went from "coop arcade shooter with horror trappings" to "60 people dressed like clown robots shooting ice lazers dipped in grenades at lesbian hooker cyborgs with le funny voice lines" which I'm not a huge fan of. Also ruined welding and the entire point of it. But I like the shooting mechanics/animations, and some of the class refinements

[strange grove]

I thought it was a series?

[craggy glade]

tv show, tomato tomato

[mystic belfry]

Idk the space marine game didn't look overly interesting, but maybe I'll be proven wrong

[craggy glade]

its just a movie cut into bite sized pieces

[strange grove]

Inb4 the protagonist soloes a chaos god

The first game he killed a lesser demon lol

[craggy glade]

it was fine pre-EDAR

[mystic belfry]

I don't have much context for what that means tbh

[rain badger]

100%, no use in welding or using the map to its full extent in KF2. Too much goofy crap in it as well.

[sharp ember]

i'm hyped for it because it's the guys that did the World War Z videogame and literally reusing their horde wall mechanics

[strange grove]

Did you play the first game?

[zealous wyvern]

kf2 sold 100million copies in 2019. i do not know if that is successful or not

[mystic belfry]

97% of my warhammer fantasy and 40k lore come from vermintide and darktide

[zealous wyvern]

but there is a number

[craggy glade]

Tripwire outsourced everything and it went to shite

[mystic belfry]

I tried a demo of the first game and didn't like it

[serene sage]

Really? The visual and the theme is solid. The trailer really conveys that sense of scale

[rain badger]

that feeling when you headshot a FP with a crossbow in KF1

[zealous wyvern]

this seems fishy

[mystic belfry]

You can make use of welding but you need to be pretty purposeful with it

[strange grove]

The final boss fight was a lesser demon. Something one space marine cannot solo kill

[serene sage]

Wait you got to try it?

Oh of the first game

[mystic belfry]

yes

[craggy glade]

12,000 people got it on steam on release, I have no idea how 100 million copies were sold

[zealous wyvern]

yeah hold on this cant be real

[craggy glade]

maybe retail stores bought them

[zealous wyvern]

i looked up most successful games

[mystic belfry]

I'm actually an exlusive group that got into the closed pre-alpha of the new space marine game smh

[zealous wyvern]

no i doubt 100 was true. minecraft has 300

cant be that close

[mystic belfry]

It's because of my massive credentials

[craggy glade]

Im 99% sure game purchases come from retail and not real people

[rain badger]

Hopefully KF3 enemies are more grounded and the weapons feel better. Hopefully they expand the gore system more.

[serene sage]

No way. 100m is like way too many

In a single year no less

[sharp ember]

does a mid-transformation daemon prince count as a lesser daemon

[zealous wyvern]

wiki said it sold that much by 2019 idk why

[craggy glade]

The 100 million is prob RETAIL PURCHASES

[zealous wyvern]

i think it might have confused it with the jack reacher book

[craggy glade]

like best buys/gamestops

[zealous wyvern]

which did sell 100 million copies

killing floor is a jack reacher title

[strange grove]

That’s what I meant lol, it’s been awhile

[serene sage]

Never heard of Jack Reacher book

[strange grove]

Still, a marine can’t kill that

[zealous wyvern]

ah 100 million earnings. sold 10 million copies

not bad though

[strange grove]

Would be like a Navy Seal team conquering China

[zealous wyvern]

i would say it is a popular wellknown classic among gaming fans now

[bold ibex]

Think deathspitter wouold be better than no respite? Deathspitter is 6.5% power from close range kills... but I don't think it stacks? Pretty low but it's something.

I also have full bore 4. That's +20% power for 5 secs. At close range I think its spread is tight enough it'd work

[mystic belfry]

No respite is good if you like to open with a fire shell

[sharp ember]

it stacks 5x, but i'm still a no respite fan because it works on fire shell burning

[serene sage]

Like League of Legends, the largest esport right now has a player base of 100M which is also free to play and can run on a toaster.
No way KF2 sold 100M.

[sharp ember]

deathspitter stacking is not listed on the description but it does

you can observe the buff

[strange grove]

DOTA2 > LoL

[mystic belfry]

Neither is good

[bold ibex]

do they count as staggered as long as they're on fire?

[sharp ember]

the only moba i liked was HoTS

[craggy glade]

Dota never had Jinx so automatic L

[zealous wyvern]

yes

[mystic belfry]

What's the mod that auto-sells shit when you craft garbage?

[bold ibex]

and wouldn't +20% power be a lot better than up to 20% damage?

[sharp ember]

no, but the fire shell does make smaller enemies buckle when you hit them, and any subsequent staggers while they burn from other sources

[craggy glade]

League is the definition of that Megamind "Presentation" meme

[strange grove]

Holy smokes I want this too lol

[zealous wyvern]

league and dota just depend on what characters you like more

stop arguing

[mystic belfry]

I know it exists, I guess I need to go find it

[zealous wyvern]

although league is really becoming a scummy business over the last 3 years or so

its getting bad

im pretty much out

[craggy glade]

3????

[sharp ember]

i don't like those ones on shotguns because of your low shell count, and they have to be within 8m to build stacks i think

[zealous wyvern]

yes

3

[craggy glade]

more like

[zealous wyvern]

before it was just typical game dev

[craggy glade]

8

[zealous wyvern]

no

definitely not 8

it started being bad around 2020

[serene sage]

no league is better
the only dota player I know who also play Darktide play malice only
the nly league player I know who also play Darktide (me) play auric only
there fore it is undeniable that League is just better

[craggy glade]

its been terrible since dynamic que first started mate

[zealous wyvern]

(if you like league)

[strange grove]

I have $1,000 in league skins

I feel dumb

[craggy glade]

League started rotting around season 6

[bold ibex]

there's no range limit and you get 20% power regardless of the amount of pellets, as long as they hit

but I don't think the kantrael's spread would get across the map like the agrippa

[zealous wyvern]

they have only started to really buy into scummy business tactics around 2020

before then they were surprisingly player-oriented

[craggy glade]

"player oriented"

my dude please say sike

[austere blade]

Rate my talent tree, goes with Infantry Lasgun and Chainsword

[jaunty herald]

What you explained today and half an hour later I checked with Melk. He gave me this:

https://i.imgur.com/BVkz63q.jpg

[zealous wyvern]

i may not be joking but i might be wrong

i am no expert

you probably are not either

[livid monolith]

$70 valorant skins

[zealous wyvern]

all i can say is that league has taken a massive dive in my eyes in the past couple years

[mystic belfry]

I hate you, but gratz

[zealous wyvern]

exactly

[craggy glade]

League was bought by Ten "game killer" Cent in 2011

[zealous wyvern]

valorant came around the same time

i know

but it was fine for years

because tencent does not always start aggressively ruining anything they touch the moment they do

[craggy glade]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-eyes-out-amazed-gif-14044962

[zealous wyvern]

i think tencent back then was just buying and staying quiet

only nowadays it has began to expand violently

shoving everything good about games

[serene sage]

ironic given you are saying it in Darktide server of all places

[bold ibex]

...using shotguns again, I realized that the shotguns do way less damage than a #*$&ing revolver. This is wrong.

[sharp ember]

i don't know about the damage afterwards, but you definitely have to be close when you kill them to get stacks. As for the range problem, fire shells are pretty effective at a distance because you only need 1 pellet to hit to apply the burn stacks, 2 shells will burn most common enemies

[livid monolith]

Larian Studios is partially owned by Tencent, bought before BG3

[strange grove]

Supposedly Tencent records all voice comms

[zealous wyvern]

i do not know if it is tencents fault honestly. but anything they touch publicly is ruined in my memory

[craggy glade]

it took tencent a singular year to mog FS

[serene sage]

time to spam taiwan numba 1 all game long

[zealous wyvern]

when did they buy it?

[craggy glade]

2021 majority shares

[bold ibex]

Oh I'm sorry, I think we were talking past eachother. I meant Full Bore, which is every pellet hitting. Yeah, deahtspitter you do need close to get stacks

[zealous wyvern]

makes sense why darktide is going so weird then

[serene sage]

okay I am now a reformed player

[craggy glade]

https://tenor.com/view/yee-yeedinasour-dinasour-gif-4930781

[zealous wyvern]

my point is tencent has been better in the past. nowadays they are apparently a bane

[livid monolith]

BG3 counterpoint

[serene sage]

I will unbind tab for Scoreboard so I can focus on the game instead of being salty about teammates not pulling their weight

[zealous wyvern]

i think their strategy may have been to quietly buy for 10 years, then ramp up their demands

[serene sage]

thank you for listening to my ted talk

[livid monolith]

they got like 40% shares

[sharp ember]

oh i didn't know we were talking about fullbore , yeah I wouldn't be so keen with that on a kantrael shotgun

[craggy glade]

they have always been nutty its just the frog and the boiling pot senario

[zealous wyvern]

point taken. does not change everything but as i said i do not know if it was their fault or not

[strange grove]

EA was once a great company. They are slowly coming around

[zealous wyvern]

just a weird coincidence

[craggy glade]

EA will never reform

[serene sage]

CDPR has a fall from grace but at least they are somewhat self aware

[craggy glade]

You cant reform millions of shareholders

[zealous wyvern]

still i did not feel like getting violated by league until 2020ish

[livid monolith]

theyve also basically owned discord since it was a MOBA and not a social platform

[serene sage]

EA has been real quiet lately which is... good ig

[strange grove]

I remember playing the OG Archon on a Commodore 64. Made by EA

[bold ibex]

I think the reason is a lot simpler. Tencent didn't have to do anything before because LoL was growing at a meteoric rate. Riot's system was working. LoL has stagnated in recent years. They need to grow revenue, so they had to come up with better ways to milk whales

[craggy glade]

once you go publically traded its all ogre

[serene sage]

Indie games are better than ever

I think gaming in general will be okay ❤️

[craggy glade]

becuase of the dev runoff

[zealous wyvern]

i have not seen any indie games i like

[bold ibex]

Any F2P gets more vicious with monetization once their player base shrinks

[zealous wyvern]

unlucky me for my taste in games

[craggy glade]

DRG

[zealous wyvern]

i dont like drg

[craggy glade]

oof

[zealous wyvern]

not edgy enough

i need edge

[craggy glade]

wha

[serene sage]

Microsoft has been on the forefront of crossplay stuff too

[zealous wyvern]

i dislike goofy things

not fun to me

[livid monolith]

and DRG is sorta on the downspin, GSG is focusing more on publishing than dev

[zealous wyvern]

i can get drunk and crack jokes with my friends if i want silly

[serene sage]

what kind of genre are you into?

[sharp ember]

average krieger

[zealous wyvern]

hey

i am NOT saying its bad

dont you dare badmouth me for this

[craggy glade]

||The coffin of Andy and LeyLey?||

[serene sage]

cause AA games really solid too

[zealous wyvern]

dont you dare

[serene sage]

like Darktide is AA and memes aside it's pretty good

[zealous wyvern]

i just said i dont like them

[gloomy kestrel]

is this melk shop item essentially a god roll? o.O https://i.gyazo.com/e3ec1618952bc695e2d60f3fbda7bcbb.png

[zealous wyvern]

i did not say your taste sucks

so leave krieg alone

[strange grove]

Try Orc Massage.

lol how many are looking that game up on steam

[craggy glade]

bruh

[zealous wyvern]

i heard about it before

horror

[zinc osprey]

AHh. I see you Hate FUN /s

[sharp ember]

just saying krieg has a certain edge to it that appeals to people for a reason

[craggy glade]

man actually flexing this hard in vet chat with the melk buy

[zealous wyvern]

yes

[craggy glade]

why do you toture me so

[zinc osprey]

Yes lmfao

[zealous wyvern]

sorry if you did not mean it the way most people mean it

[gloomy kestrel]

i mean it's not the mk12 so

[zealous wyvern]

not sorry if you did

[mystic belfry]

You should try that new indie game call of duty

[craggy glade]

its literally a godroll

[warm idol]

do auric missions give more resources vs normal?

im still gonna do auric cause it's more fun

im just curious

[sharp ember]

alas we're just talking about videogame atmosphere

[zinc osprey]

You make more money and experience

[zealous wyvern]

the last indie game i liked was ori and the blind forest but i had to force myself to play it because 2d is usually pass for me

[craggy glade]

mla is meta too

[warm idol]

so no more plasteel?

[strange grove]

Seems there is a huge overlap between XII and 1a guns?

[warm idol]

that's cringe as hell

[zinc osprey]

oh there's a ton scattered around, yes.

[gloomy kestrel]

12 used to be the best, I guess ia got rebalanced?

[craggy glade]

its to prevent xbox apes from filling auric

for the extra loot

[zinc osprey]

?

[warm idol]

also what's experience even useful at for 30

[livid monolith]

the other 2 lasguns are on par with, 12 is kind of bottom barrel now

[zealous wyvern]

nothing

[sharp ember]

just quickplay, quickplay is harder than auric

[zinc osprey]

flexing with mods to see true level

[zealous wyvern]

there is a mod that shows you true level but nothing practical

just cred

[warm idol]

that's like hella cringe

[zealous wyvern]

oh and if you mess up, they have the ability to flame you for it even more

[zinc osprey]

like seeing dudes with 1500 in a single class

[zealous wyvern]

because you are lvl 1000

[zinc osprey]

lmfaOOOO

[craggy glade]

unskilled wombats will fillup the highest difficuties to farm plasteel

[gloomy kestrel]

should I replace the carapace on it with flak?

[zealous wyvern]

well tbh the mod just shows you them, it does not show them to others

so getting the mod is not for flexing

[zinc osprey]

Okay, and they will stop or get good

[zealous wyvern]

but rather being flexed at

[zinc osprey]

why you pressed abt it?

[craggy glade]

theres no penalty to just leaving after downing and restarting

[livid monolith]

yea inf lasguns do piss against cara

[craggy glade]

it makes it a nightmare in pubbing

[zinc osprey]

you takin this too serious

[south garnet]

I don't need a scoreboard
I already know exactly who played like shit, wronged me specifically and personally, looked like a dumbass and fucked everything up, who actually did all the work killing the boss instead of sneaking in the very last hit to make it look like they contributed, or took my ammo when he thought nobody was paying attention

[zealous wyvern]

i wonder if i will ever get malice 10x without down done

[strange grove]

Game needs an MMR system

[zealous wyvern]

also does anyone know

is it done per char?

or do i need to, on all chars, not go down for 10 matches in a row

[strange grove]

Sorry won’t happen again

[gloomy kestrel]

penance is account wide

[zealous wyvern]

can i set aside a char to do it on?

[craggy glade]

I take my free time seriously.

[zealous wyvern]

dammit

[craggy glade]

mostly

[zealous wyvern]

so i cant have a side char to do it on

[gloomy kestrel]

I got mine 15 done a while ago

[bold ibex]

...man, if only the chax's charged attacks worked like powersword mk3, it'd be so much better. ._.

[zealous wyvern]

15????

wait what

[gloomy kestrel]

there's another level ingame past the achievement

doesn't give anything

[zealous wyvern]

how do you do that with 3 randoms who are level 10 and go for DH everytime they see it

[zinc osprey]

playing DARKTIDE?

[zealous wyvern]

i cant solo it as my vet

[gloomy kestrel]

if theres DH be the furthest back

[sharp ember]

penances should be account-wide, you can get psyker's self destruct penance as vet with plasma gun

[gloomy kestrel]

it generally kills the 2 fastest

also for dh bring krak grenades

[craggy glade]

no offense if I have 5 games thrown because of people on xbox who literally stare at walls in damnation I will tilt

[sharp ember]

and it counts on your psyker

[south garnet]

demons love crack

[gloomy kestrel]

while it's murdering people stick them to it's butt

[strange grove]

DHs should be more like witches

[zealous wyvern]

yeah i do that

but i have only 2

[craggy glade]

Ill leave it at that

[zealous wyvern]

maybe i should go for 3

[strange grove]

Let me crown her

[gloomy kestrel]

bring the node for 3

and 50% more dmg

[zealous wyvern]

alright

i hope i get this one day

[craggy glade]

I roll to seduce the demonhost

[zealous wyvern]

its the last penance i dont have

except for big numbers i will get with time

[gloomy kestrel]

just makes you able to do super heavy lifting on monstrosities

[zealous wyvern]

like 500000

[south garnet]

first time I saw a dh I about shit myself because they were new and I hadn't heard they were in

[balmy terrace]

get luckier, or find a solid group. You'll breeze through 10 missions without going down on malice easy when you don't have to worry about dumb-dumbs ruining things for you

[craggy glade]

I can fix her

lemme cook

[zealous wyvern]

yeah but none of my friends like malice

[gloomy kestrel]

kraks also magnet to carapace armor so you can hurl it into mixed hordes to delete maulers and ogryn

[zealous wyvern]

and are kind of dumbdumbs

the good ones want t5, the bad ones are bad

valid point but sadly no chance

[livid monolith]

ogryns decent at it, they just have such a high health pool that it takes awhile to chew through aside from specials

[gloomy kestrel]

use the matchmaking here in this discord

for a premade

[balmy terrace]

The good ones won't help their friend? Sound like great friends

[zealous wyvern]

unless i actually asked them to but i do not want to waste their time

no they would

but i dont want to make them

[gloomy kestrel]

its better if you can actually yell at them not to lick the DH

[craggy glade]

will all due respect if you have been playin for more then 6 months with like 100+ hours and you cant clear mals then I just feel sorry for ya

[zealous wyvern]

i play t5 or level up new chars

[craggy glade]

Mals are actually Death Stranding

[strange grove]

Which pisses me off. Earlier I wanted to lob a krak at a Crusher far away. The thing goes straight down on a bulwark who was close to death.

[zealous wyvern]

not my fault noobs touch DH and get them killed

sometimes me

im not good enough to solo dh

[gloomy kestrel]

It's double edged for sure fraktal

[craggy glade]

Malice is basically a Mall at 9 PM on a weekday

[bold ibex]

is it possible to spawn bosses in the meatgrinder?

[zealous wyvern]

and doing it on t5 is very hard for me

[balmy terrace]

Point-missing 100

[gloomy kestrel]

I generally enjoy the feature for mauler groups though.

[zealous wyvern]

i dont play malice much man

[livid monolith]

DH goes for 1) person who woke 2) highest damage still alive

[zealous wyvern]

i play t5 all day

and i go down on t5

[craggy glade]

load bearing hours

[strange grove]

Same

[zealous wyvern]

because its hard

[craggy glade]

same

[zealous wyvern]

so no i dont have it yet

[craggy glade]

im just sayin

[zealous wyvern]

what

how did you get it then?

on t5

respect but dont get at me for not being a god

[balmy terrace]

Missing the point people on this server have perfected lmao

[dark flower]

what are we arguing about

[craggy glade]

get what then?

[zealous wyvern]

the 10 missions without being downed

did you farm malice?

or did you get it on t5

[craggy glade]

just spammin t5s

[dark flower]

oh im pretty sure i did that one

[zealous wyvern]

well good job

honestly

[craggy glade]

I literally live on t5 quickplays

[zealous wyvern]

but keep it to yourself

[craggy glade]

and just go crazy go stupid

[dark flower]

on damnation quick play

[zealous wyvern]

im not as good as you

doesnt mean i want your pity

[balmy terrace]

You can definitely do it on t5, again you just need a decent group. On QP that just takes pure luck

[zealous wyvern]

[livid monolith]

post-xbox damnation prolly isnt as likely now

[dark flower]

ok so what are we arguing about

[strange grove]

I’m getting tired of T5 QP cuz of Carnival. Overplayed already

[zealous wyvern]

t5 also got harder

now

[craggy glade]

I mean not being able t5's is different then not being able to do t3's

[zealous wyvern]

although did they nerf it again? it seems easier today

[craggy glade]

idk at this point

[zealous wyvern]

yeah but i dont play malice

so that is not an argument

[dark flower]

they did not

[craggy glade]

im not arguing with you, you goose

[zealous wyvern]

i played it like a couple times and got absolute beginners most times

sadly

so they just triggered DHs everywhere

or blew me off with barrels

[dark flower]

wait you struggled with malice dh?

[craggy glade]

I havent played in a month due to silly work/pc being funni

[zealous wyvern]

one guy killed all of us by shooting a burster in my face in the extraction where pilot shoots the bridge

that was a good laugh

[craggy glade]

I literally havent tried the keystones on Vet yet

[dark flower]

😦

[zealous wyvern]

but shows how bad malice can be

[zealous wyvern]

i am not able to solo DH no

[dark flower]

what melee are you using

[zealous wyvern]

i miss most of my shots due to its super fast erratic movement

i think i had devil claw

[craggy glade]

you need specific gear for it, dont worry about it

[dark flower]

ok then that would be your problem

[dark flower]

you don't btw

[dark flower]

you were shooting the dh instead of using the claw

you have the claw, use the parries

they're free.

and the riposte damage is very good

[zealous wyvern]

can i parry its combo if im targeted? i thought i would riposte one and then get killed

[craggy glade]

I am not soloing it with base shovel and no bonus stamina/skills/perks

[dark flower]

you can immediately parry

[zealous wyvern]

does it get staggered from parrying it?

i rarely pull it off since i think it is punishing

[dark flower]

not enough to matter but you can spam parries and they're instantly available after a success

and free.

and they do a lot of fuckin damage

[zealous wyvern]

3 kraks, devil claw, melee shout build probably

will be my build

[dark flower]

between dodging and parrying you can handle a dh. especially on malice.

[zealous wyvern]

i have 1 victory right now

[dark flower]

any build will do

[craggy glade]

loadbearing malice

[zealous wyvern]

i hope i dont have to solo

soloing even malice is not that easy for me

if one dog or trapper gets me thats it

[dark flower]

like the claw is literally holding you up

[craggy glade]

to solo a DH you need to do a ton of teching

[dark flower]

nope

you really don't

[craggy glade]

chaining block/dodge/parry is teching

[zealous wyvern]

considering you are not really meant to fight them, people have very little practice

[strange grove]

To solo a DH you just RQ when some noob pulls one

[zealous wyvern]

if i do that i sadly do not get the achievement i assume

[dark flower]

you don't need to block and you barely need to dodge if you're moving correctly

not even counting slides

I'll show you

[zealous wyvern]

i have slowly started to know the dodge pattern

but it still catches me

[dark flower]

when im home tonight from work

[craggy glade]

sliding and moving correctly is teching

you cant just unga a DH

[strange grove]

lol no one is taking the noob claw for a DH

[zealous wyvern]

especially catches me off guard with the fast claw

[dark flower]

wasd is not teching and you literally can

@dapper vessel are u seeing this shit

[craggy glade]

wasd in time with DH paterns is

[balmy terrace]

Sometimes humility makes you sound like you're full of shit tbh.

You might be able to beat a daemonhost, but pretending it's something every player can do is dumb

[zealous wyvern]

ancient, i think you underestimate just how much you know about the game

[strange grove]

Power Sword, Shovel, Rashad all better melee options

[craggy glade]

hyperbruh its not that easy

[zealous wyvern]

you seem like a very good player

but try to take a step back

and see just how experienced you may be

[dark flower]

it's not as easy as standing still if you're alone

[zealous wyvern]

i cannot really get a hit in while dodging it myself

i can survive it for minutes if i do well

[dark flower]

but i literally watched Mal stand still with a powersword and block a dh the entire time like a shield ogryn.

[zealous wyvern]

but i cannot hurt it while doing so

[dark flower]

on t5 hist

[zealous wyvern]

t5 blocking a DH?

[dark flower]

it was the most braindead fucking thing I've ever seen in my life

[zealous wyvern]

that sounds weird

i will make sure to pack some stamina then

[livid monolith]

ps6 gets block cost reduction innately

[craggy glade]

ok I need to see this one

[dark flower]

i will show you tonight in like

4 hours

[zealous wyvern]

any dclaw for block efficiency?

i am not familiar with psword

[dark flower]

it was the most braindead fucking thin

[craggy glade]

unless he has some goofyass stamina perks w/ p6

[strange grove]

Need pics. Of mal and the DH too

[dark flower]

i have EVER seen

[craggy glade]

in that case my point stands

[dark flower]

i didn't record any of those matches but i can find the scoreboard

[zealous wyvern]

before i go sorry for getting rude shrew

[strange grove]

I’m kidding I believe you lol

[zealous wyvern]

i interpreted your statement as telling me i suck

[dark flower]

nobody sucks unless they refuse to learn

[craggy glade]

nah its all good you didnt kno what I was saying

[zealous wyvern]

i mean i do

[dark flower]

nope

[zealous wyvern]

i just do not like people telling me in a sassy way

its rude

[craggy glade]

it was a misunderstanding

[dark flower]

you want to learn so you're a good player

that's how it works

[craggy glade]

I was by no means saying "skill issue"

[zealous wyvern]

i wonder when skill issue stops being said

its been a while

long trend

[dark flower]

and im going to love showing you some whacky shit you can do

oh it never does

[zealous wyvern]

it will die

eventually

[craggy glade]

it can take a while no worries

[zealous wyvern]

or do you ever see anyone say "get pwned"

[dark flower]

i do

[zealous wyvern]

i never see it

it was 24/7 in 2012 or something

[dark flower]

i wish i didn't but i do

[balmy terrace]

something will replace it, like it has basically replaced git gud

[zealous wyvern]

i see it like once a year

i wonder what is next

[dark flower]

but yeah

[craggy glade]

btw if I see some 2-3 stamina curio shite I wont be impressed

[dark flower]

home from work in 4hr or so

[craggy glade]

becuase any bonobo can spam full stam. and jump around

[dark flower]

no sir

[zealous wyvern]

i need rest

[dark flower]

I only run health curios on vet

sometimes one extra toughness

[craggy glade]

no toughness?

[dark flower]

usually just health

because of the Regen capabilities

and the fact that

[craggy glade]

what hp regen?

[dark flower]

no i mean the toughness regen

shout plus killing specials

[astral blade]

fuck me is spatial awareness not a thing in darktide

[craggy glade]

spacial what now?

is that a new flavor of recaff?

[dark flower]

instant free over toughness plus iron will = it lasts until i get set on fire

[balmy terrace]

for the average player? that's not even a concept

[dark flower]

then no amount of toughness will save me

[dusk idol]

average players have the awareness level of inanimate objects

[craggy glade]

are you essentially betting on toughness gating?

[dark flower]

and i can survive a sniper shot or burster no problem

[dusk idol]

me accidentally dodging off of ledges

[dark flower]

it works very well.

[craggy glade]

since with VoC and low tougness you guarentee Iron will faster?

[dark flower]

now that exhilarating is fixed it'll work even better

[dusk idol]

it’s not betting if you can actually do it well

[dark flower]

with voc active

[craggy glade]

true but thats gamey af

at least to me

[dark flower]

im always over 75 percent toughness

[craggy glade]

thats so troll

[limpid hull]

eh im pretty sure our toughness dmg resist has been halved in some way. im definetely not as tanky as i was before with aura and iron will

[dusk idol]

game mechanic, better to use it than not use it

[dark flower]

with confirmed kill and exhilarating

[craggy glade]

ik but still

[dusk idol]

if you can use it well all the more power to you

[limpid hull]

not including and toughness regen

[dark flower]

I'm also regenerating that toughness rapido

[limpid hull]

i didnt run those

[celest vine]

Wow

Chaos spawn is the best boss in the game

[astral blade]

So you mean to tell me people with autism (I do have autism) actually have more spatial awareness than your average darktide player?

[celest vine]

Unironically

[dark flower]

and because I'm taking huge damage reductions already

my effective toughness

[limpid hull]

id believe it

[dark flower]

is far higher

[craggy glade]

true but its much less raw toughness regen without a large toughness pool

[celest vine]

You dont love their bullshit sending you out the map

[zealous wyvern]

autists have nothing impairing their spacial awareness

[craggy glade]

you are just abusing Ironwill and VoC spam

[dusk idol]

I do

[zealous wyvern]

if you believe all the media nonsense about autism, they probably have twice the awareness

[dark flower]

ok I'll show you this too when I'm home

[dusk idol]

it’s called my fucking inept brain

[zealous wyvern]

yes but that is not autism doing it

[dark flower]

the thing about toughness regen is

[zealous wyvern]

people can still have their individual shortcomings

but i do not think autism has caused spatial awareness problems

maybe though

[limpid hull]

eitherway, we are squishier than ever, after the update. as if we were not squishy enough. thanks for the dmg nerf on top of it.

[craggy glade]

autism in the media consists of Chris-chan anecdotes

[dark flower]

coherency regen is worthless and voc is instantly full plus overshield

[zealous wyvern]

and super geniuses

[limpid hull]

really appreciate it fatshark

[craggy glade]

so I wouldnt consider that "accurate"

[dusk idol]

the amount of times i have slid off a ledge because i am not paying attention

[zealous wyvern]

autists in any movie are always like

super smart

[craggy glade]

true

[zealous wyvern]

and genius

and rainman

lmao

[balmy terrace]

Not sure there's always a direct correlation to be made there lmao, but DT players mostly are pretty stupid. As are most people

[zealous wyvern]

all highfunctioning

[craggy glade]

is rainman really highfunctioning doe?

[zealous wyvern]

so if you believe media, autists would have much better spatial awareness than the average darktide player

[dark flower]

ok back in a bit

[zealous wyvern]

was he not that supersmart card counter or something?

[warm idol]

just had some frenchman come in, backtrack away from everyone for no reason, rant something shit in french and leave

[dark flower]

and then in 4 hours someone ping me pls

[limpid hull]

why ever belive media?

[zealous wyvern]

well yeah i never said you should

[warm idol]

truly the modern gaming experience

[dark flower]

to show the funny dh stuff

[zealous wyvern]

i was saying IF you believed media

[craggy glade]

"smart" does not equate to "able to exist well in modern society"

[dusk idol]

did the hotfix nerf anything or break anything

[zealous wyvern]

oh definitely

is that what highfunctioning means then?

[dusk idol]

high functioning means capable

[zealous wyvern]

working well in society

[limpid hull]

yeah, it made vet a fucking support squishy character

[dusk idol]

like socially capable

or

[craggy glade]

dont quote me on that but basically

[zealous wyvern]

i see

[dusk idol]

capable

something in that ballpark

[zealous wyvern]

i meant hyperintelligent then i guess

[dusk idol]

like high functioning alcoholics

[zealous wyvern]

based

[craggy glade]

I mean you can be hyperintellegent but not in like science or something

[zealous wyvern]

yes

[dusk idol]

what happened

[craggy glade]

like those goblins who mod factorio are still crazy smart but you dont see them winning peace prizes

[zealous wyvern]

what

the bot blocked the word

ok

[vivid cedar]

is this worth fixing or is it dead on arival?

[craggy glade]

big toughness nerfs since p13

[dusk idol]

or the guys who wrote undertale code

[craggy glade]

doa

[dusk idol]

the hotfix or patch 15

[zealous wyvern]

wolf with their special thing having better spacial awareness than the avg darktide player is absolutely believable

i do not see why not

[raw turtle]

worth getting from melks?

[dusk idol]

I’m talking about the hotfix

[craggy glade]

oh

uh they fixed one of the blessings

[astral blade]

Ugh basically last game I had 3 teammates who basically might as be bots that’s how bad they were

[craggy glade]

allegedly

[dusk idol]

which blessing?

[astral blade]

Hence my earlier question/comment

[craggy glade]

im big dumb I mean Exhilarating Takedown

[dusk idol]

oh

nice

[craggy glade]

they allegedly fixed it

[dapper vessel]

Lmao

[craggy glade]

idk if they actually did though

[dapper vessel]

I can tank a DH easily with a Mark 6

[craggy glade]

unless someone proves it

[dusk idol]

will do some testing

[dapper vessel]

and do stupidly huge damage against it

@dark flower you bear witness to the weakest Vet gameplay

[formal relic]

What do I do with this plasma gun?

[astral blade]

Hence why I asked if people with autism have more spatial awareness than your average darktide player

[craggy glade]

without stamina bonuses?

[dark flower]

i need to go grab the scoreboards

it was ridiculously stupid

[dusk idol]

upgrade perks or one perk and T4 gets hot

[dapper vessel]

it is

fuck that one time the DH was on you

that shit was so winnable if the Cspawn wasnt eating my haed

[jade night]

Carapace to maniac, gets hot to t4 - OR volatile to t4 to help your charge rate

[deep fable]

got power cycler 2

[astral blade]

Oh hey @dark flower what are you doing in the offical darktide discord I thought darktide modders discord was your stomping grounds?

[dark flower]

this was the

[deep fable]

is rending ideal to pair?

[dark flower]

i was always here

[craggy glade]

I personally would swap to flak/maniac for the perks

[deep fable]

so uh

[craggy glade]

for breakpoints

[deep fable]

that was power sword on launch?

[craggy glade]

idk if those brekpoints work post p14 doe

[astral blade]

You were? well shît man good to see ya here

[deep fable]

3 energized hits?

[jade night]

I prefer maniac/elite tbh

[craggy glade]

You used to be able to oneshot shot/lasgunners with one base headshot

[dark flower]

Mal only died here because of 200ms ping and desync dodges lol

but veteran is the squishiest it's ever been right

[dapper vessel]

I have +1 stamina node active. 3+ stamina curio equipped without any stam regen delay perks. And the 0.25 stam regen delay node active on the right tree

like if you know how to time your blocks and dodges

[dark flower]

i watch this dude face tank batshit damage

[deep fable]

wut lmao

[limpid hull]

sorry had to step away, let me explain

[dark flower]

more than i was taking actually

[dapper vessel]

and utilizing the block to charging your power sword timing

[dark flower]

some shit i just read

[craggy glade]

yea that makes sense

[dapper vessel]

you can get some insane push attack damage against a DH easily

[craggy glade]

if you stack stamina you can unga anything atm

[dapper vessel]

DH are a JOKE in this patch

[gusty bison]

Was it an weapon spec or tagging build?

[dark flower]

you don't need the stam curio for dh

[craggy glade]

@dark flower told ya

[dark flower]

think mal was weapon spec but idr

[jade night]

This one is silly

[dapper vessel]

yeah I run weapon spec

[gusty bison]

Yea weapon spec is the opposite of squish lol

[dapper vessel]

I run the +3 stamina just so I can do more push attacks

[craggy glade]

you cant chain that much for a DH unless you have stamina bonuses

[gusty bison]

40% toughness on demand

[dapper vessel]

I probably wont need it

[gusty bison]

Lmao

[dapper vessel]

but I already have over 200 toughness already

[warm idol]

do malestroms anything more other than just dockets? it felt like getting the same amount of resources as I do on a normal quickplay auric

[austere mica]

I'm making a build designed to use a Helbore bayonet, what model should I use and what blessings/perks should I use on it?

[dark flower]

you just need the two stam delay reduction nodes or to dodge better if you don't have stamina curios

[deep fable]

nope

[dark flower]

I'll show you when I'm homeeee

[warm idol]

honestly should change imo

[craggy glade]

Those two nodes or stam curio is the stamina bonuses

[dapper vessel]

lmao I managed to fully face tank a DH before on pubs