veteran-class

[slow spade]

Recon meta

[dusk idol]

I do like it, though I’ve used brauto (hipfire into heads) and revolver (pure headshots) and the keystone itself just didn’t give me mega damage

[slow spade]

Recon > revolver

[dusk idol]

precision strikes though, that put in work

[narrow dock]

love to see those dumbasses who mag dump in carapace and deal like 0 damage

[kind scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1173960287863451718/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.11.14_-_14.17.57.03.mp4

See?

[jolly cave]

I don't use either, but this sounds like a hot take

[slow spade]

Sorry, I simply have 3 other teammates kill them for me 💅💅💅

[rugged sandal]

what's the name of that weapon skin

[south spindle]

Recons are alright till they have to go up against a wall of maniacs, then they suffer

[kind scarab]

People like to act like kraks don't even exist sometimes

[slow spade]

Krak is indeed krakked

[kind scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1174083643728212038/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.11.14_-_22.27.52.16.mp4

Recon still fine on mani

[iron marten]

I like using krak, but I prefer shredder way more

[tranquil basalt]

tje weapon is modded, the red should be in the ingame money shop

[slow spade]

Shredder + grenade tinkerer

I hate hordes

[rugged sandal]

oh

[viscid marlin]

I like kraks but its not like i have 20 kraks on me when 20 crushers show up

[narrow dock]

Revolvers one-two clap those big guys with focus up btw

[dusk idol]

it’s too bad that tinkerer doesn’t affect bleed though

[slow spade]

Have you tried praying to the omnissiah?

[viscid marlin]

oh god

[kind scarab]

Is the recon the best weapon weapon we have in all of the veterans arsenal? Nah. We definitely have better. But people saying that Recon don't work just lying to themselves.

[tough snow]

see you guys next year

[maiden orbit]

got this already

[dusk idol]

revolver two claps most things with crit

[south garnet]

I'll be the first to admit I have no idea how programming works but I would think, as a general rule, when copy pasting abilities from an old game into a new one you probably want to either be able to understand the code itself, or at minimum know the description of the ability you're lifting it from

[kind scarab]

On the right build, oneshot on everything

[viscid marlin]

damn son

[dusk idol]

oh my god dammit I was so close to reaper one shot last patch

I was 80 damage away from a one shot

[kind scarab]

Lemme just record something for you real quick

[untold mulch]

THE shovel

[swift ingot]

Tag is so much fun with Laspistol, it’s like reliving Witch Hunter Captain

[dusk idol]

I just needed unyielding 25 instead of 20

[iron marten]

ye this revo here also lets me one shot crushers as well lmao

[grim walrus]

Yes! Join the Butchers!

[drifting moon]

lmao

[narrow dock]

"I WANT THOSE KRAKERS DEAD! MWAHAHAHHAAHAH!"

[grim walrus]

Come on, I find impact not that bad.
Not after I figured out you can battle Ragers without too much worry.

[maiden orbit]

imagine if sharpshooter vet was viable

[narrow dock]

bruh, wrong msg to reply 💀

[maiden orbit]

instead i'm just using plasma shout

[bold ibex]

does +unyielding weapon damage work on monstrosity bosses?

[dusk idol]

yes

[kind scarab]

The oneshot build lives

[south garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-team-rocket-blasting-off-gif-23481556

[celest vine]

Thats better

Dont buy then

[dusk idol]

carapace damage and exec stance will give you the damage you need

[kind scarab]

Already have both

[dusk idol]

I know

[iron marten]

just realized how good marksman's focus would be on the revolver

[kind scarab]

Sadly, the nodes on the tree were nerf'd, so my not perfect revolver barely misses the breakpoints.

Sometimes

[kind scarab]

It's only good if you know how to balance your stacks and aim well

Otherwise, only use marksman on high firerate weapons

[iron marten]

I can aim well don't worry about that

it's just I move too much

[lavish hamlet]

does the inspire skill pick people up from custody after they die?

[dusk idol]

it doesn’t have great synergy, it’s kind of like crucial roulette

[narrow dock]

would've ben funnier on plasma, if it had scope

[dusk idol]

unless you’re not sprint sliding

but I sprint slide a lot

[iron marten]

let me get mine up :p

[south spindle]

MKIV Las with Marksman's Focus is funny

2400 DPS vs Rager

[kind scarab]

I sprint slide a lot between areas, but that's what the camo node is for on the capstone

[dusk idol]

conserves stam for deadshot and avoids gunner fire while saving your dodges

[kind scarab]

This little shit lets you get away with moving a lot more

[wooden oar]

Did rampage get fixed yet?

[south spindle]

Nah still bugged atm

[kind scarab]

If you're used to waiting on surgical to give you stacks for crit. Camo works exactly the same way

[viscid marlin]

I just want a good autogun build. What is "the good" autogun build. I love using the agi mk1

[kind scarab]

So you just end up doing more damage for free.

[kind scarab]

Which autogun. IAG?

[gusty sonnet]

colomnus gaming

[viscid marlin]

yeah

[kind scarab]

Gimme a sec

[dusk idol]

I took this node and found it only gave me two stacks~ in combat, stacks that I got while in transition areas disappeared quickly too since you either fight or move once you exit

[celest vine]

PC or xbox?

[viscid marlin]

too much fire rate and recoil, it kills my deadshot stam

pc

[celest vine]

Shid

[kind scarab]

You're welcome

[celest vine]

Xbox gets IAG bonuses

[kind scarab]

This build works on any high firerate weapon

[iron marten]

the cool kids club

[viscid marlin]

ok well i meant more, the autogun build that you dont fall over like a wet noodle from but thanks XD

[gusty sonnet]

wut

[narrow dock]

it could seem from description like u lose all stacks, but in reality u lose like 1 stack every 5 meters u walk
so if u clap heads, u'll be fine

besides, there're team m8s to cover ur ass from trash which can get bit too close

[celest vine]

Intense bullet magnetism

[kind scarab]

This one has Confirmed kill

[kind scarab]

With everything you're murdering, you'll always be at full toughness

[viscid marlin]

the question is, how much does iron will matter, and also no duck n dive?

[dusk idol]

bruh

[iron marten]

guess they balanced confirmed kill around shock troop gauntlet considering there's barely a time when you're not free from specialists

[kind scarab]

You don't need Iron will or Duck and Dive

[viscid marlin]

the fuck is going on with that

[gusty sonnet]

does it work on PC with a controller too?

[celest vine]

Its another PC cope when the xbox player does good

Console only

[viscid marlin]

Even with all the stam deadshot consumes? I mean i have 2 stam curios on but

[kind scarab]

There's no deadshot on that build I gave you

[zealous cedar]

It works, did it last night

[viscid marlin]

oh god why is there no deadshot

[kind scarab]

Want me to show you?

[viscid marlin]

agi mk1 hits like a wet noodle without deadshot

[swift ingot]

You don’t need stam curios just get used to it

[viscid marlin]

yes show me

[kind scarab]

Hop into strike party #5 and I'll show you how much damage my guns do

Wonder if I have an Agi

[dusk idol]

they gimped it pretty hard for our keystones too

[bold sierra]

recon lasgun with middle keystone tree + infernus uyielding dmg + monster/ogryn dmg is BUSSIN

[iron marten]

I don't run the toughness regen stuff for my keystones so lmao, it still feels pretty song. But I get why people are complaining considering the other 3 classes have really good toughness regen nodes

[stone birch]

wooooo finally got surgical 4 for my revolver

[finite imp]

throws 2 kraks

[slow spade]

The ping keystone has good toughness regen pick

It also restores your team's toughness

[iron marten]

the one positive thing I can say about this tree, despite the confirmed kill nerf, is that confirmed kill got moved near the top

[bold sierra]

insult to injury

[finite imp]

I'm starving

I was pizza

Want

I also was pizza

[dusk idol]

I just don’t generally run keystones, I feel pretty decent still without them

[slow spade]

Xeno detected

[dusk idol]

just sometimes I notice I have less toughness than I thought I would

[swift ingot]

Me after tagging with the tag keystone on a crusher

[slow spade]

Ordo Sinister deployed

[finite imp]

Genestealers turning into pizza

[iron marten]

700 hours of vet brainrot pre patch 15

[slow spade]

Termagaunt detected, cyclonic torpedos fired

[stone birch]

i solved my durability issue by switching out a stamina curio for a health curio on my marksman build

[dusk idol]

700 is too kind to me

[stone birch]

it was that easy ><

[slow spade]

Imagine using hp when you can just use more stamina to not get hit 😎😎😎

[celest vine]

Could be zealot

75 base toughnesses

[stone birch]

the ninja poxwalkers, man. The trees speak plague.

[slow spade]

Block is 360 degrees

[celest vine]

Ogryn has 50 base

[slow spade]

Brb making a macro to make my character block after an audio cue plays

[dusk idol]

mfers will just not play audio sometimes

[swift ingot]

But Ogryn can still get hella toughness and toughness dr

[stone birch]

I shall use the eyes in the back of my head to see the poxwalker that everybody missed and proceeded to get behind me.

[slow spade]

The Inquisition uses all, even the deaf will serve

[iron marten]

deaf people exist in the year 40k?

[slow spade]

Imagine not blocking 24/7

[dusk idol]

also what the hell is up with poxbursters just spawning behind you

[slow spade]

Couldn't be me

[slow spade]

They're called Basilisk operators usually

No shot a DKoK basilisk operator isn't deaf

[dusk idol]

I was in smelter the other day in middle event and a poxburster literally just spawned behind me in the open area

[bold ibex]

if I had two mroe skill points I could make an infiltrate, melee, tagger work wonderfully. But I either lack the points for the buffs on killing someone with focus or the nodes to enable 2 stacks of infiltrate + bonus damage. :/

but if I did, it'd onetap crushers with chaxe

[slow spade]

Yeah I stacked toughness so I could facetank poxbursters

My base toughness is 230 💪

[stone birch]

Aye, my craziest spawn was when 3 maulers and some of their scab mooks spawned in a tight circle around me. I could not move.

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah, I run all toughness curios and with a FnP build I rock a touch over 260 toughness and have enough DR to take a sniper shot and have about 80 toughness left over

[dusk idol]

bruv

[slow spade]

Holy shit I wish I had 260 toughness

[narrow dock]

Woe
Be Krak upon ye

[iron marten]

HOW

[stone birch]

spawns be crazy the past few days lol

[dusk idol]

Jesus Christ

[bold ibex]

they buffed the spawn rates in higher difficulties by a lot

[slow spade]

3 toughness curios + 5% toughness

Take the middle tree keystone which has a +25 toughness node

[gusty sonnet]

bottom left side + bottom right side is +50 base tuff

melee vet was well fed this patch

[near sable]

rending agrippina..

[stone birch]

ah, makes sense. why gunners are dime a dozen anymore

[iron marten]

well, I guess I'll just be a glass cannon vet

[wispy oyster]

Was dumb how Vet was the only class without it's toughness regen nodes at the top. ngl

[slow spade]

I miss when vet had 200 base toughness

You could face tank snipers with barely any investment

[gusty sonnet]

Doesnt Iron Will still allows that?

[slow spade]

No

Need to invest pretty heavily

Doable though

[obtuse dawn]

Yeah that's how I run my melee vet boi

Crank up toughness then run shout for more or infiltrate to squeeze out of bad situations

[bold ibex]

...i chaxe specialed a poxburster instead of pushing

._.

[obtuse dawn]

I run sniper res gunner rez and toughness

[slow spade]

Indeed, Vet has so many toughness boosts

[hybrid token]

its not about living, its about sending a message

[slow spade]

Idk why people run wounds or hp

[empty creek]

so true

wounds is anti-BS measures

toughness & stamina is where it's @ though

[slow spade]

Think of it this way, guaranteed proc of Tactical Awareness

[bold ibex]

i still have hp because before it was better than toughness since... you just full healed toughness every other scond.

I'm considering one wound because of how much bs there is now.

[slow spade]

Sorry, I will simply not be hit

Gunner patrol? Just dodge

[trim steppe]

Look how often left keystone is at 10 stacks with CIAG while constantly running around and with very suboptimal play. They stack fast and don't decay much. Good keystone.

[empty creek]

i run 1 wound 6 stam w/ 15% health & 15% toughness

[iron marten]

reminded me of this clip

[wispy oyster]

stam regen + revive speed on all 3 has big payoff IMO

[tulip condor]

tree?

[stone birch]

the keystone has brought everything but monstrosities into guaranteed 2 shot kills without executioner stance. with, crushers just die. REALLY useful for when I am out of krak grenades on a rush of 12 of them and 8 still remain.

[gusty sonnet]

I'm considering revive speed nowadays with how many lemmings there are

[split sapphire]

Hmm

[wispy oyster]

I'm pretty sure it applies to saves too, not just revives. Might be wrong tho

and people going down in auric is nothing new

[tulip condor]

thx, and what blessing on braced gun

[gaunt delta]

https://tenor.com/view/gunge-male-slime-nick-kca-gif-25172114

[gusty sonnet]

That base toughness though

[drifting moon]

LMAO

[wispy oyster]

must be nice

[untold mulch]

whats the usual recommended toughness?

[serene sage]

Fuck if we know

[untold mulch]

I am thinking of changing one my tougheness curio for a +3 stamina

[empty creek]

preference (again)

[obtuse dawn]

If you die a lot, as much as possible

[vital phoenix]

more than 1

[stone birch]

I do fine with 115 on my sharpshooter and around 140 on my commander build.

[untold mulch]

Nah, is just trying to max out Dead Shot

[drifting moon]

Enough to not go down, not so much you waste curios blessings

[slow spade]

327

[untold mulch]

[old quartz]

they fucking flattened the leather box thing on the front of the krieg chest piece, it looks even stupider than before!

[untold mulch]

Breathen't

[slow spade]

327 is the max possible toughness pre-patch 13

[empty creek]

hit it w/ a hammer

[wanton dawn]

If you go deep middle or right you have 140 base

[drifting moon]

It's a message pack lmao

[slow spade]

Just don't get hit by fire

[timid otter]

5

[old quartz]

at that point just fucking remove it

[drifting moon]

I have 85 I think

[dusk idol]

@iron marten you popping on today?

[empty creek]

also pretty sure that's an external filter or air supply or smthng but what do i know

[serene sage]

Steel Legion stays winning

[iron marten]

waiting for an EU friend, then we'll suffer on NA West servers lmao

[dusk idol]

ouch

[old quartz]

it is, its supposed to have a hose connecting it to the gas mask but that wouldnt work for obvious reasons, but like, cmon, it looks awful now

[bold sierra]

tbf, there isn't a air capsule in there, so I think it's not so bad xD

[wispy oyster]

200 ping gamur

[dim lantern]

Is there a website to look at veteran builds ?

[drifting moon]

That must be why people use shottys

[dim lantern]

Like for their tree

[slow spade]

Think of it as warp traveling

[empty creek]

does the coattails still have no physics or did they finally fix that

[dusk idol]

apparently there’s a bug

[old quartz]

they still dont have physics

[empty creek]

bro...

[dusk idol]

where if you have high ping and shoot your shotgun it’ll fly into the ceiling

[untold mulch]

Moebian troops can pop in and out of existence

Is only fair we get the same power

[empty creek]

literally all they did was suck the juice out the goddamn box & nothing else

[dusk idol]

recoil is server side lmao

[empty creek]

FS what hte hell 😢

[slow spade]

Patrol duty -> empty hallway -> Rock

[untold mulch]

Weapon swap too i believe

Which almsot gets me killed sometimes

Press Q

Nothing happens

[dusk idol]

this gets me in trouble more than it bloody should

[untold mulch]

My dumbass, block

Aim at the rager face

[dusk idol]

stop ADSing

[untold mulch]

[iron marten]

you get used to it

[empty creek]

the fact that we still dont have the inquisition version of this upsets me greatly

the over-the-shoulder straps is gemmy AF

[serene sage]

Mortis sets are cool

[empty creek]

the ass bags R premo too

[drifting moon]

it's what holds our massive balls

[serene sage]

I legit think they are top 3

Steel Legion is best

[placid solstice]

I deal with this every time i use shotguns

[empty creek]

the fact that the steel legion keeps getting re-added but nothing else has that gear right there is the worst

yellow & poop brown camo instead of red

[drifting moon]

This was a pain

[dusk idol]

my condolences

[empty creek]

me hiding in the big mulch pit w/ the rest of the steel legion

[bold ibex]

i still can't get over that we can't color premium cosmetics

[drifting moon]

Oof

[placid solstice]

Its annoying but kinda funny

[serene sage]

Semi bragging moment but I completed it on Auric T5 haha

[bold ibex]

like if you drop 20 bucks on an outfit, you should be able to make it any color you want

[drifting moon]

Do you random queue?

[old quartz]

how else is fartshart gonna grift you into buying the same cosmetic but blue colored

[serene sage]

No lol I have 2 Surge Psykers carrying my ass

[empty creek]

i get it from a development perspective but everybody knows they have a million zillion things locked away in terms of cosmetics that R release-ready

[timid otter]

bruh you are crazy dude. That is a ridiclous request

[daring peak]

i'm one point short of agile engagement

fuck

nothing i can really drop

[drifting moon]

I random queued it lmao. I was lucky with two flame thrower psykers and an ogryn who used shield. However, there were not a lot of specials they had to deal with

[wanton dawn]

I know this build

[serene sage]

That said I didn't completely just hide all game long

[wanton dawn]

Vet tree is super flexible i promise

[placid solstice]

And yeah i also get a lot of ghost inputs - try to swap weapon and the game decides i never actually pressed anything

My internet is garbage tho

[daring peak]

revolver melee vet gaming

[serene sage]

Def didn't go gungho for damage but I killed something at least

[daring peak]

any tips on how to get that 1 point

[dusk idol]

lose iron will

[kind scarab]

A friend shared a funky thing from his twitter, that I feel perfectly encapsulates how good veterans are handling this current update to the vet tree

[wanton dawn]

Nah, you are screwed if you get ammo aura

[kind scarab]

https://fxtwitter.com/haultrukkz/status/1724853021312426133

This is literally us

Those who adapt to the chaos around us

[daring peak]

:( it's so over

[wanton dawn]

Ah hell, ppl can inspect stuff now ?

[drifting moon]

Just dodge more

you'll be fine

or dead

[empty creek]

the free cosmetics we're getting wont even have cool assbags 2 make the overall armor shape look good

[untold mulch]

Love the song

[drifting moon]

anyone else use the combat knife?

[dusk idol]

I will pray for you 🫡

[serene sage]

Just drop Born Leader and the 10% Team Toughness filler node bro

It's very simple

[daring peak]

16% toughness, 3 stamina, 16% toughness

[dry wagon]

guys how are we building plasma nowdays?

[dusk idol]

born leader?

[mystic escarp]

Can I see a gun and a tree please?

[drifting moon]

I never did lol

[ashen dock]

drop always prepared

[daring peak]

it's kinda good

[hybrid river]

Maniac+perk of choice, gets hot, blaze away

[daring peak]

but if this doesn't work out i'll try dropping it

[iron marten]

almost the same as p14+p13

[drifting moon]

That's what I use

[ashen dock]

is it 25% more dmg good tho?

[kind scarab]

Wrong gun

One sec

Wrong person

[drifting moon]

Mine is the same except for I chose reload speed

[kind scarab]

@mystic escarp There ya go

[bold ibex]

...i just noticed. the new +5% damage boost from the mid tree on ability use.

Doesn't wait until after infiltrate

[dusk idol]

glory hunter if you hurt for toughness, otherwise gets hot/blaze or volatile/blaze, whatever you get

[unique sorrel]

weapon spec is so fun

damn

[dusk idol]

plus whatever perks you need for dmg

[drifting moon]

Anyone else having the bug where contracts aren't updating properly?

[hybrid river]

Are you checking them before starting to play?

[drifting moon]

Yes. I don't see how that is particularly relevant though

[hybrid river]

Cause contract progress won’t start tracking until you check them, just wanted to check that that wasn’t your issue

[mystic escarp]

Thanx a lot!

[drifting moon]

Ah, I need 16 grims or scriptures and I got 5 today and it didn't update. Oh well. Worst case I reroll for the challenge

[kind scarab]

Np, land headshots and it'll serve you well

[hybrid river]

I always reroll grim and scripture contracts

[kind scarab]

Also make sure to have a decent melee weapon for horde clear

[drifting moon]

Join the combat knife gang today!

[stray storm]

Y’all got any trinket loadouts that don’t need all + wounds?
I really want to experiment but those wounds are like my walking cane to most Heresy missions

[kind scarab]

Nah, I use combat knife on my zealot, that's plenty enough for me

[kind scarab]

You're using wounds... on heresy?

[hybrid river]

Wounds are rarely ran on higher levels

[drifting moon]

lol, I find it fun to use.

[stray storm]

Yes

[trim steppe]

vet is nice with 2 hp curios and a +3 stam

[lavish hamlet]

I think it's really funny that the only mission ive lost 15 missions was the only non auric mission I did

[stray storm]

Laugh at me idc

[unique sorrel]

2x tough and iron will

[stray storm]

Thank youn

[kind scarab]

I can't begin to tell you what you may or may not be doing wrong, but I think your fundamentals need a bit of work until you're comfortable enough not to need more than 0 + wound curios

[drifting moon]

I don't think anyone is

[iron marten]

take ur time getting better, and when you're feeling confident, remove it

[kind scarab]

^

[iron marten]

It took me 50 hours before I could do damnation properly :p

[timid otter]

Ive played with vet abit more now

[kind scarab]

I highly recommend this on all your builds, as it's a great safety net

[timid otter]

The left tree feels much weaker then the other two

[trim steppe]

run AT MOST 1 wound curio while you learn, so you can go down twice before you die. any more is a waste, boost your hp or toughness instead (pref hp)

[drifting moon]

are you landing headshots?

if you aren't then it is kinda weak

[timid otter]

Ya

Im pretty good at headshots

[drifting moon]

What gun are you using?

[timid otter]

Colomus infantry or plasma, or angripna infantry, revolver

Revolver not on that specificaly however

[drifting moon]

what level are you ?

[trim steppe]

I would not take left keystone with plasma or revolver. IAGs are good tho

[kind scarab]

Plasma and Revolver are only good choices if you're absolutely cracked at landing headshots all the time

and

[ashen dock]

finese dmg on marksman side buffs crits also right? not just weakspot?

[kind scarab]

You'll need to take the Camo subnode to make up for stacks lost while moving

[drifting moon]

and on my pistol I have rend on crits

[kind scarab]

It should, but you can never trust fatshark to have the tooltip actually tell you what it's doing properly

[drifting moon]

https://tenor.com/view/that-was-a-good-one-gif-13993813984575052097

[timid otter]

Im pretty sure though that if i was to run it properly i would lose out on damage rather then get more

[serene sage]

You mean landing headshots with the Revolver whose hitbox register is as big as the Eiffel tower?

[drifting moon]

It relies on weakspot and crit the way I play it. Although, my build might be kinda standard for most vets

[drifting moon]

or as big as my mom

[slow spade]

All Vets are pure right tree build

Melee only

[kind scarab]

You have a lot more faith in randoms than I do, cause those fuckers somehow will still miss a headshot while the gun is pointed right down a fuckers mouth

[serene sage]

😭

[drifting moon]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-up-dry-heave-vomit-gross-eww-gif-23254765

[iron marten]

feel like I'm the only vet that doesn't have the right tree utilized at all in any of my builds

:x

[slow spade]

I don't either

[drifting moon]

https://tenor.com/view/vomit-ew-no-eww-gross-gif-12932403

[kind scarab]

I have two builds for left tree, two for middle tree and one for right tree rn

That's good enough for me

[cloud current]

Same, if I wanted to melee I'd play any other class

[drifting moon]

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-ew-gross-david-rose-disgusted-gif-18489037

[serene sage]

That tree is so skinny it hurts my soul

[iron marten]

my revolver

[slow spade]

The life of the Vet

[kind scarab]

Sheo's tree cosplaying an african child

[bold ibex]

after playing a lot of Chaxe the last two days or so, I feel like the weapon could be amazing with a few changes that make too much sense to ever happen.

1. make the special attack bleed blessing apply on the first hit. The +100% crit on special attack kill should be changed to any kill gives special attack +100% crit.
2. make each tick of special attack and revattacks proc effects that apply on hit. Headhunter, brittleness on hit/crit, and the bleed talent specifcially.
3. if the enemy you're revving dies while revving it, you're treated as if you killed it for effects relating to talents and similar. Particularly +regen talents.

[timid otter]

Left tree might work if i sac exe stance, the stam curios…

[wispy crater]

Honestly on my plasma gun build i don't use any of the Keystones, mines a lot like this actually

[dry quail]

The new vet tree is ew in general

[drifting moon]

Have you tried it on zealot?

[slow spade]

Blame Fatshark for putting all the good left points at the bottom lol

At least the ping keystone is cracked

[celest vine]

Needs to go on a diet

[slow spade]

So I can actually use one

[robust mirage]

going shouty vet + the weaponswitching is alot more fun then the "shooty" vet, still plenty of pew pew and verry agressive

[dry quail]

So much bloat

[celest vine]

After that itll be fine

[iron marten]

ye same

[timid otter]

32% damage vs marked targets is amazing

[celest vine]

Keystones are fine

[bold ibex]

nope but idunno why you'd use it over an eviscerator?

[slow spade]

Its potentially 32+12% with upgrades

[trim steppe]

Here's left keystone with CIAG, it maintains 10 stacks and melts everything even running around and being bad with the gun lol

[celest vine]

The fact it takes 22 points to get there is not fine

[drifting moon]

zealot seems to be the more melee focused clas. at least how i play

[celest vine]

[iron marten]

imagine the power if martyrdom zealot had access to a powersword

[kind scarab]

Technically, no

It's 32% + 9%

[drifting moon]

https://tenor.com/view/actually-nerd-actually-nerd-glasses-well-yes-but-actually-no-gif-5597798959730072444

[timid otter]

Honestly with how good the middle one is i dont mind it taking 22 points

[kind scarab]

Actually wait no, I got it backwards

[bold ibex]

Vet has a melee tree and playstyle that works differently than zealot, but it still works well. it's my goto playstyle atm

[timid otter]

The others however not so much

[serene sage]

It IS very fun. I'll admit. Probably the most fun playstyle of all classes in this patch. My problem with it is how much it depends on the Revolver.

[slow spade]

8* 1.5 = 12

[kind scarab]

It's actually 24% + 12%

[celest vine]

🗿

[drifting moon]

I'm good on that

[kind scarab]

No really. you'll never reach max stacks.

[drifting moon]

I got an ogryn and a zealot I can swing weapons with

[cloud current]

I was playing vet for semi auto head tapping but I guess I'm doing it wrong, I should just spray and pray and randomly hit weak points

[serene sage]

I don't like having to use the Revolver only (yea ik Plasma and shotty exist but they aren't as good)

[slow spade]

I do just fine?

[wispy crater]

The Focus target keystone is great, but doesn't always fit into every build. Sometimes your just better of grabbing more talents instead of trying for a keystone, especially since the right path keystone doesn't work like its supposed to.

[robust mirage]

i dont do the revolver ammo swap thing

[kind scarab]

You can only reach 6 stacks on the 4% buff before risking losing the 8 stacks of 1.5%

[drifting moon]

lol

[serene sage]

What are you using then?

[drifting moon]

Most people who don't waste ammo don't do that

[robust mirage]

i use the fast shooting semi auto lasrifle from the hip

[dry quail]

"Make it easier for builds, more choices"

The ninja nerfs is what got me so annoyed

[topaz lance]

very similar to what I ended up doing, but I stop at Iron Will and grab duck and dive, also I only take stam regen on the bottom left and go for sprint efficiency and reload speed on top right

[slow spade]

Skill issue

[topaz lance]

from my one test run, this feels like my pre-keystone build

[robust mirage]

maybe even better with the full auto

[bold ibex]

is there a cap on toughness damage reduction? Like can I use... +50% toughness reduction from infiltrate, +50% from mid tree, and +33% from the aura?

[iron marten]

I would too, but I need the bring them down to two shot crushers with a ps

[serene sage]

Interesting

[slow spade]

Its multiplicative so heavy diminishing returns

[robust mirage]

i do only play on difficulty 3 so thats a thing as well

[lavish hamlet]

thoughts on this? Ive never actually use this type of autogun

[slow spade]

Rip plasteel

[robust mirage]

but i don't go further into the tree then the keystone

[kind scarab]

Not a skill issue, they just made the stacks decay faster than you build them up. You can see it here.

[iron marten]

the heresy vs damnation plasteel gap is actually insane

[slow spade]

Was a joke :p

[daring peak]

this might work better, lets me drop a stamina curio for more toughness

[slow spade]

Imagine admiting my mistakes

Couldn't be me

[kind scarab]

I wish we could get the full 8+8 stacks

Instead, we stuck with 6+8 stacks at best

[serene sage]

I'm going fucking feral

[slow spade]

Technically you can with 2 Vets 💪

[umbral scaffold]

at least you can upkeep the 8 damage stacks with any marked kill afterwards

[kind scarab]

So 24%+12% total

[topaz lance]

Ah, I am using the chainsword and just stagger them with nades. I noticed that my revolver lost the 1 tap crot headshot for ragers and 2 tap for crushers btw. Feels bad.

[serene sage]

What other games are you guys playing?

[kind scarab]

Hmmmm, I suppose?

[slow spade]

Starsector

[serene sage]

For no reason at all but curiosity

[finite imp]

baldurs gate 3

[iron marten]

I still can one shot crushers with a revolver with mine

[finite imp]

I have a paladin that's currently cracked

[kind scarab]

Many. Mostly for breaking them and minmaxing the shit out of stuff.

Some of money.

[slow spade]

We love older women

[drifting moon]

depending on your build you might have to wait a bit before shooting

[serene sage]

Names. I need names

[slow spade]

Octopath Traveler 2

[bold ibex]

dese perks trolled me. I dunno know it if it's worth just hoping for a final good blessing.

[serene sage]

Oh I'll add it to the list when I have my Steam Deck

[iron marten]

A mobile game, abit of arma, occasional cs2 (until valve fixes it), and dwarf fortress

[topaz lance]

WHats your revolver look like? Is this with exe stance up?

[drifting moon]

Did you feel attacked or something?

[kind scarab]

Darkest Dungeon, Division 2, Vermintide, Elden Ring, Divinity Origin Sin 1/2 and some stuff that ain't out yet

To name all the stuff in the last couple of weeks

[bold ibex]

it was like fatshark pissed in my mouth

[cloud current]

THE FINALS

[iron marten]

yeah with exe stance up

[safe quiver]

Did any good content creator uploaded a build video or something ?

[serene sage]

Fellow DD enjoyer

[topaz lance]

If you mean surgical, yeah this is with crits unfortunatrly.

[slow spade]

Core Keeper, Starsector, Synthetik, Sunhaven

Those came to mind

[iron marten]

exe stance comes back really quickly during hi5stg so I don't mind the cooldown

[slow spade]

Zero Sievert too

[kind scarab]

Waiting on the return of the crusader

[serene sage]

Thanks everyone. I guess I'll have stuff to play while waiting for them to fix the tree

[topaz lance]

Ah thank you! mine has elites on it currently, might do some testing around this

[drifting moon]

yeah, I meant surgical. The one with rending also helps. You could also add blessings for +25% damage on armored enemies

[slow spade]

I'd suggest Starsector as its only 15 USD

[bold ibex]

also have this one to try giving it a roll.

[kind scarab]

Crusader + Fencer lady getting added mid december for DD

Be ready

[iron marten]

no problem!

[umbral scaffold]

reynauld my beloved

[ruby fulcrum]

Seconded starsector. Incredible game and mods are great too

[serene sage]

December also has Rogue Trader and potentially Spah Muhrin 2

[topaz lance]

yep I think it's the perks on the weapon that were prohibiting this I think

[iron marten]

I've been itching to buy Baldur's Gate 3, sell me on it so I can stop playing Darktide

[serene sage]

My man died for redacted reasons at the end of DD1

[dapper spear]

hoooooly

[drifting moon]

Yeah, the perks make or break the build

[slow spade]

Wrath and Ruin build UwU

[kind scarab]

I wept tears of joy when they said they bringing back flagellant. Kinda sad he looks like a zombie though.

[dapper spear]

what a game

[serene sage]

play it until next patch

[drifting moon]

I have gotten into ready or not

[slow spade]

Pilums for days

[serene sage]

is Starsector a tactic game or like a shootemup kinda deal?

i can't tell

[dapper spear]

space sim more than anything

[serene sage]

I like it that way. prob the most unique char yet

[dapper spear]

trading, quests, mining asteroids etc

[slow spade]

Space sandbox, sim game with tactical combat

[kind scarab]

If I had to guess. Starsector is spacesim meets Vampire survivors

[dapper spear]

also @serene sage any luck on the run?

[slow spade]

An inaccurate but close enough comparison is space mount and blade

[dapper spear]

asking with pure intentions i promise

[serene sage]

I tagged you for a screengrab yesterday?

[topaz lance]

Btw revolver-bros, how do you deal with monstrocities? They are eating a lot of my bullets, so I try to melee then instead.

[iron marten]

play it until they fix crafting*

[safe quiver]

Niceee always looked like a very cool game to me, but im careful with tactical shooters since tarkov was so fukin complicated then i thought

[dapper spear]

oh my bad i didnt see lemme scroll

[slow spade]

Power sword weakspot hits are my go-to

If beast of nurgle

I shit myself

[stuck wave]

what blessings and perks do people run on shovel?

[kind scarab]

Headshots, and kraks

[serene sage]

Weakspot or burst and melee and nade

[brisk umbra]

so... forever?

[drifting moon]

ready or not is a lot more simple. although you only play against NPCs

[serene sage]

And that's it?

[snow pendant]

shoot weakpoint like the head and decorate them in krak grandes like a christmas tree

[brisk umbra]

kraks, don't try with revolver

[kind scarab]

Something like this

[stuck wave]

thank

[iron marten]

look look look, if they allow me to convert diamantine to plasteel, that's a win in my book

[slow spade]

Part of why I use plasma over revolver is for bosses

[kind scarab]

They gonna add crafting to upgrade your weapons using diamantine right after, and you'll have no diamantine to work with

[dapper spear]

@serene sage nice! what build were you using?

[kind scarab]

and immediately regret that choice

[iron marten]

did Fatshark hire you to scare tactic this chat

[dapper spear]

and interesting you had problems with the melee rather than the gunners, but i guess it must be a problem with spawning in general if we're finding its too much of one or the other

[safe quiver]

Is it like a game with loudouts ? Or like what is the game loop ? (beside the missions)

[empty creek]

think i became mid overnight i was able 2 handle auric damnation like a king yesterday in teams full of people who should still be playing malic but 2day i cant even get 2 the 1st medstation in half these missions

its so fucking over

[kind scarab]

They can't afford me

[drifting moon]

It does have loadouts but everything is unlocked from the get go.

[kind scarab]

Or maybe they could

I never bothered to ask

[bold ibex]

no no, you see, it's just a skill issue. veterans are just as good as they were before and weren't horribly butchered in the last twenty four hours.

[umbral scaffold]

nah come on, you got that. walk it off soldier

[safe quiver]

So just buy and enjoy the game as is, no leveling or anything like that

[empty creek]

i can't believe i got washed up by 8 hours of sleep

[dusk idol]

do you like the consequences of your own actions?

[drifting moon]

Nope, no levels. However the missions do have difficulties and other modifiers such as bomb threat, hostages, etc

[safe quiver]

Well sounds fukin nice might wait for a sale on that one

[iron marten]

I already do this by playing too much Darktide, so yeah I guess

[bold ibex]

ikr? I'm annoyed since I just got the nerve to do damnation and auric this week and have played the hell out of them, had a great time, and now i'm Fally McFallsdown.

[dusk idol]

would you like to break open eldritch monsters onto unsuspecting children?

[iron marten]

time to sell my cs skins

[kind scarab]

You had me at break

[slow spade]

Me playing Starsector

[empty creek]

literally i keep just randomly going down, no audio cues or nothing 2 predict, no specials in sight & always @ the start of hordes

[kind scarab]

Why is there a catgirl

[dusk idol]

and if you would like to commit genocide on a country-wide scale…

[empty creek]

IDK what the issue is & Y normal poxwalkers R somehow buttfucking me

[slow spade]

Felinid outbreak

[kind scarab]

Why is the population dying

[dusk idol]

go see a therapist you psycho

[muted tangle]

I love the new map so much but damn is it frustrating to play with Pubs. They keep on camping at the spot with the initial button press to open the roof and there's no way to convince them to come down, they just sit up there until inevitably they get TPK'd because that spot objectively sucks

[slow spade]

Felinid outbreak

[kind scarab]

[dusk idol]

but also buy bg3

[kind scarab]

Can't blame them

[empty creek]

ss13 reference in the wild

quarantine everything

[iron marten]

just a quick question, anyone here use shift to dodge, or space

[umbral scaffold]

space

[kind scarab]

I use space for dodge + Jump

[dusk idol]

I use mb5

[slow spade]

I use space

[empty creek]

space

[dusk idol]

for jump

[umbral scaffold]

jump is on alt

[kind scarab]

Cause Vermintide mindset

[dusk idol]

and space for dodge

[bold ibex]

i use space but probably should move it off the jump button cuz jumping randomly sucks

[slow spade]

And yes I do occasionally jump when trying to dodge

[iron marten]

huh, I use shift to dodge

[kind scarab]

The jump is the sign you're dodging too much and not killing enough

[warm remnant]

Space to dodge, C to jump

[kind scarab]

At least for me

[warm remnant]

[dusk idol]

I’ve needed to jump a sum total of 8 times

[kind scarab]

Stealing that

It'll go nicely with

[iron marten]

[dusk idol]

so binding it to a far off key was fine to me

[iron marten]

I see

should've bound scrollwheel to jump now that I think about it

< csgo player

[dusk idol]

reminds me of my mordhau gameplay

[mystic escarp]

997 lvl

[slow spade]

Bind dodge to left mouse button UwU

[dusk idol]

scroll up for stab and scroll down for downwards slash

[slow spade]

Shoot good

[iron marten]

god don't remind me of the people that bind spot with mouse1

[dusk idol]

I hate it

[iron marten]

hey that's pretty good

[dusk idol]

my friend does it

spam pings

[slow spade]

Ping keystone DEMANDS pings

[dusk idol]

💀

[kind scarab]

Perfect

[empty creek]

horrific nolife

holy shit

living in a chair

[dusk idol]

goals

[mystic escarp]

What is that frame btw?

[half wigeon]

is it good guys ?

[dusk idol]

bricked

[empty creek]

its over

[umbral scaffold]

ggwp

[worthy pelican]

joever

[mystic escarp]

nvm it's a new one I think

[half wigeon]

bricked ?

[dusk idol]

bricked

[empty creek]

bricked

[dusk idol]

ruined

[half wigeon]

what do you mean 😭

[dusk idol]

fucked

[half wigeon]

oh it's bad

[empty creek]

destroyed

[mystic escarp]

Wait are those new?

[empty creek]

no

[serene sage]

ngl to you, i did a few Maelstrom runs after and while im topping the damage chart, I cannot carry games any more with it (pre patch I consistently win on Maelstrom, yesterday i lost like half of the games....).
there is just not enough toughness after all the nerfs. it hurts. but here it is fwiw. I run Bolter + Chain Axe 2 for weapon

[dusk idol]

the blessings you want are uncanny strike, decimator or skullcrusher, some combination of whatever you can get of those

and damage perks ideally

[iron marten]

aight gonna go die now

[dusk idol]

have fun

[half wigeon]

yeah fucked then lmaoo

[warm remnant]

I managed to clutch for a good 8 minutes as Vet earlier on auric damnation, so it's possible.

[half wigeon]

shit was a nice stats shovel 💀

[warm remnant]

Gotta love FS certified™️ spawns

[dusk idol]

hadron ruined it

[elder vessel]

KNIFE
KNIFE
KNIFE

[dusk idol]

💀

[empty creek]

knife mains on their way 2 spam light attacks & dodge repeatedly then die 2 a poxburster

[serene sage]

I dont doubt it's possible. I guess it's just skill issue from my end but it's definitely sad to see the new tree which promised new horizons somehow nerfed a lot of nodes and make me readjust (again).

[iron marten]

anyone have a fanfic of hadron secretly working for the chaos gods, considering how much she bricks the equipments of the rejects... when they're running out of manpower

[dusk idol]

that’s heresy

[warm remnant]

It's bloated, but like... I know the hahafunny here is "Ignore keystones" but they're genuinely good.

[umbral scaffold]

for honor pfp and banner absolutely flashbanged me mentally

[serene sage]

I do know that Revolver melee is stupid strong right now and if I run exclusively that I can clutch most every games, but I don't like Revolver

[umbral scaffold]

So y'all remember like

[warm remnant]

Like, Vet's tree shouldn't be as bloated as it is, absolutely.

[serene sage]

I want to run Bolter man. It's hard rn, it hurts 😦

[umbral scaffold]

How deadshot fucked you in melee if you weren't careful

And now we got a funny keystone that gives stamina switching to melee

Yeah, we so barrack bois

[empty creek]

we arent

[umbral scaffold]

We deadshot gamin now

silence

[empty creek]

there's no toughness anytmore

[warm remnant]

But people are too focused on getting everything they used to have and not the new stuff

[umbral scaffold]

ok, true

[drifting moon]

https://tenor.com/view/britney-dancing-knives-knife-gif-5659179589831978323

[serene sage]

yeah ill have to do more testing or wait out for patch.
im just tired having to adjust after having a comfy build yknow

[empty creek]

god hates fun

[serene sage]

anyway, rant over

[proper delta]

What do I want on vet knife

[empty creek]

shamefully slinking back in2 tier4 auric instead of tier5 auric

[dusk idol]

get bleed, ignore what everyone says and make them bleed for the emperor

[iron marten]

there is no shame losing in auric t5

just keep going at it until you win

[empty creek]

there is when the only difference is how much toughness i had

[dusk idol]

auric G5’s and maelstrom are mostly there for the challenge

for the fun

g5? t5

[slow spade]

Auric is for the DOCKETS

[serene sage]

I mean people have near 100% win rate on them
i was pretty damn close

[slow spade]

MONEY

PAY ME MONEY

[serene sage]

and now im 50/50 😢

[kind scarab]

Why you doing that to yourself?

[serene sage]

ill be playing Risk of Rain Returns 😄

[drifting moon]

The typical pistol build that focuses crit works really well for me

[serene sage]

actually any RoR player here?

[dusk idol]

no but I have RoN

[kind scarab]

Already did my runs in RoR + RoR2

[iron marten]

I usually balance my shit around hi5stg. most fucked maelstrom conditions I've seen are nurgle's blessing, scab faction only, waves of specialists, monstrous blessings on an assassination mission. It was NOT fun fighting a Chaos Spawn and the Captain at the same time

[kind scarab]

I prefer those games solo, tbh

[umbral scaffold]

was playin' RoRR earlier so yes actually

[iron marten]

playing with an EU friend

< from Australia

[kind scarab]

Ohhhhh

Checks out

[dusk idol]

use a shotgun

while you’re in na

pls

[proper delta]

Do we have a nomicon like the ogryn it takes so much effort to figure out what perks and blessings are good on each wep

[kind scarab]

Why?

[iron marten]

I'm using a 6d

lmao

[dusk idol]

recoil is related to ping

[serene sage]

do you guys need to tie your self down so you don't fall off the earth or something?

[kind scarab]

Nah, though I should probably make one at this point

[dusk idol]

shotgun shot makes you look at the sky

[iron marten]

ye, otherwise it'll be like that one scene from doctor strange

[kind scarab]

So, like the acension riser bug, where if you look at the sky while crossing the bridge it despawns and you fall to your death?

[drifting moon]

Although, I do use my pistol the most. The combat knife kinda requires headshots too

[zealous wyvern]

wait

[serene sage]

waiting

[zealous wyvern]

recoil is ping related!?!!?!?!?!?!

[dusk idol]

apparently so

[umbral scaffold]

what

[dusk idol]

recoil is server side guys

[zealous wyvern]

and gets more the higher your pign?

that is amazing

[drifting moon]

HUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh

[proper delta]

I’m married to right tree slug shotty just wanna know what other melee options I have besides chain sword

[serene sage]

everything is server side
the amount of times the game refuses to weapon swap

[kind scarab]

This explains why it feels like my aim is off when I play with NA peeps

[zealous wyvern]

that is hilarious

[kind scarab]

That extra 200 ping doing work

[empty creek]

i got full-killed thru 3 wounds on auric tier 4 in under half a second

i wish i was recording BC that does not seem normal

[serene sage]

press Q, animation plays, back to gun
Q again, animation plays, back to gun again
Q one more time,b back to gun again
and I took damage for the poxwalker

[drifting moon]

This dude's gun is about to be pointing straight up lmao

[drifting moon]

If you're rocking the right tree you might give it a shot.

[empty creek]

also might explain Y im randomly going down if i take massive damage out of the blue from nothing

[dusk idol]

afaik it’s a bug only related to shotguns so it shouldn’t have an affect on any other weapon

but it’s a bug that only occurs with high ping

which means that for some reason your recoil has something to do with client>server>client packets I guess?

[warm remnant]

Only Chensord

Always Chensord

it go vrmmm

[serene sage]

i read that as "married to the right ree sl*t shotty" 💀

[proper delta]

I have chainsword but I’m so burnt on it

[kind scarab]

Literally anything if you're running right side tree

[minor brook]

shotguns are so fun

[drifting moon]

Nah, I'm good. Combat knife is my go to. That and the revolver make me feel like a cowboy hunting heretics

[kind scarab]

You can even use the shovel

[minor brook]

are shovels good?

oh sick

[proper delta]

What are you running on knife

[kind scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1174182708931465288/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.11.15_-_05.00.23.03.mp4

[drifting moon]

I enjoy it

[vagrant narwhal]

shovels are mylove

[serene sage]

genuine question, why do you play slug shotgun when the Bolter does the same and more?

[kind scarab]

Shovel gaming

[warm remnant]

knife doesn't vrmmmmmmmm 0/10

[proper delta]

Cause it feels sick to fire

[dusk idol]

I am a lawbringer purist

[minor brook]

what perks

[unique sorrel]

bolter weapon swap animation seems like an obstacle

[minor brook]

also do i need to be on adderall to use the shovel

[kind scarab]

You may or may not need to be on adderal, But you definitely need to be on right side tree

[serene sage]

you should be on adderall to play this game

[empty creek]

if i got tier4 onslaught instead of tier3 on the right, which is better

[proper delta]

This is my Adderall wore off game

[dusk idol]

using the lawbringer to kill snipers out at 70 meters will never not be fun

I just need to do it faster than the revolver user can notice there’s an enemy out there

[empty creek]

which shotgun is the slug shotgun

[bronze musk]

I wanna join Chaos after playing left side tree with 3 ogryns

[dusk idol]

agri

[kind scarab]

Agri iirc

[bronze musk]

never letting go of plasma

[empty creek]

kino detected ...

[minor brook]

infernus is so bad on lucius ong

[proper delta]

Shotguns have amazing synergy with right tree left keystone modifier always prepared

[dusk idol]

agri has poor primary damage and kantrael is slow to fire and has lower capacity, lawbringer marries the two of them together

[minor brook]

i have an infernus 4 lucius as well and the fire does nothing

[dusk idol]

and its alt fire can just kickback effect chaff hordes

[proper delta]

Ty

[drifting moon]

I had to relog in

[kind scarab]

Poor damage, slow fire and low capacity

[drifting moon]

NP, that 3% when it works slaps lmao

[minor brook]

whats the worst shotgun again

is it lawbringer

[empty creek]

the method

[dusk idol]

they’re all about even now

it’s mostly preference

[empty creek]

which 1

[kind scarab]

Depends on what you're trying to do. Personally I said Agri is worst.

[minor brook]

holy jesus 2 376s

[kind scarab]

It's just a revolver with extra steps.

[drifting moon]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-meme-black-guy-cries-sad-man-thank-god-for-my-reefer-hood-news-gif-24902056

[dusk idol]

Right

for sure

[empty creek]

gnarly

the rest now exist as upgrade slop

[drifting moon]

lol

[dusk idol]

wait

[empty creek]

too late

[dusk idol]

I thought right had better stopping power

[empty creek]

too late

[dusk idol]

they’re about the same lmao

[fast scaffold]

I have the most fun with agripina shotgun

[hollow ibex]

It feels sexy tho

[serene sage]

big gun should shoot bigger bullet

[empty creek]

preference then

[fast scaffold]

Compared to the other shotguns*

[empty creek]

cool, ill just keep both

[dusk idol]

yer I guess

[drifting moon]

You also can't do tricks with the chainsword 0/10

[proper delta]

Agri shotty has the slug and it’s easier to proc full bore on it than the other shotguns because the spread is tighter

[misty delta]

ah a fellow slug enthusiast

[drifting moon]

there's no style with the chainsword 0/10 lol

[warm remnant]

The chainswordi sperforming about 100 knife tricks every rotation

[dusk idol]

it’s actually pretty easy to get full bore on lawbringer, but

[minor brook]

do you guys use full bore on fire shotty

[warm remnant]

You cannot out-trick the machine spirit, fleshbag

[proper delta]

Yes

[minor brook]

spread seems pretty wide

[dusk idol]

only up to like 10 meters

after that it’s up to no respite to do it’s thing

[empty creek]

im killing myself

[fast scaffold]

Im just waiting for a mission where it's legal to put more than one slug in the chamber, it sucks having to be California compliant

[minor brook]

does no respite increase the damage from the fire itself

[empty creek]

keltec lookin

[dusk idol]

maybe? I never tested it

only since I’m not a big fan of the kantrael

[serene sage]

Don't California my Texas 40k Moebian domain.

[minor brook]

whats the point of the fire round then lol

it do nothin

[serene sage]

to set people on fire

duh

[drifting moon]

You think the chainsword is illegal in california?

[devout atlas]

What's a good Rashad + Revolver right passive tree build? Apparently that's a thing people like running

[hexed shell]

anyone know which veteran nodes or passives are not working?

[spark helm]

yeah alright more playing I'm convinced

[fast scaffold]

Show me your guns, I hope you didn't put any illegal scopes on a helbore

[dusk idol]

it will shoot through entire hordes

[warm remnant]

I care not for your toasted avocados, only for oil margharitas.

[spark helm]

lol this is not a terrible change to vet, folk need to calm down.

[dusk idol]

and I’m pretty sure two fire rounds is enough to kill a mauler

[viral trench]

Why do people bring Krak grenades when they're already bringing a plasma gun? Isn't that a bit redundant?

[dusk idol]

yes

it is

[drifting moon]

I'm no soy boy californian

[spark helm]

It's nice in malestrom melee elite hordes.

[drifting moon]

#flordiaman forever

[misty delta]

monsters? idk that’s my best guess

[spark helm]

but that's kind of specific.

[warm remnant]

Infinitely more terrifying.

[fast scaffold]

Less travel tax if you want to keep it middle tree

[warm remnant]

Please do not put salt in the bath

[serene sage]

I have a mini rocket propelled smart round with casing to protect the barrel from being shattered by the power of its bullet
which somehow do less damage than a Revolver.

[drifting moon]

https://tenor.com/view/grinch-smile-evil-mischief-gif-10492887

Makes the ogryns fight harder

[empty creek]

this is not a slug i was fucking lied to

[serene sage]

that would be 8 7 slugs

[visual turret]

Did you use the alt fire?

[drifting moon]

https://tenor.com/view/hysterical-laughter-laughing-gif-25735842

RIP

[kind scarab]

Special attack my man

[empty creek]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-vault-boy-gif-25829148

[dusk idol]

the revolver shoots our hopes and dreams

[proper delta]

The slug on the shotty triggers full bore and then you get 5 seconds to tap heads and then you load slug, swap to melee and always prepared your ammo back into the gun

[drifting moon]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-were-better-than-other-people-erick-mccormack-will-truman-will-and-grace-better-than-the-other-gif-16299471

[serene sage]

the revolver shoots the fetish of whoever playtester decided it needs buffs 4 patches in a row

[empty creek]

homie said slug & i thought it meant the entire load was just slugs & was jumping up & down clapping my hands

i love slugs

shittyass alt fire

blackpilled

[fast scaffold]

Revolver damage nerf to carapace and unyielding, add a speed loader

[drifting moon]

You can alt fire the whole mag

[dry quail]

California compliant slugs

[dusk idol]

I don’t want a speed loader

[serene sage]

as funny as it sounds, I think revolver damage is fine but make it one cleave

[drifting moon]

I run reload perk lol

it helps

[dusk idol]

I want to be able to load one round in the cylinder and pop a head like I’m a real cowboy

[serene sage]

so it remains the quickswap headshot playstyle

[empty creek]

yeah no i get that but i gotta load them individually like the bitch doesnt just have a tube where other shells can be stored

[drifting moon]

You can

[serene sage]

but can't be used as main weapon to clear stuff

[drifting moon]

I do it when I don't have time for a full reload

[dusk idol]

I know

I said I don’t want a speedloader to preface

[drifting moon]

https://tenor.com/view/sadcat-gif-25701972

or only have one bullet cause some ogryn is trying to snipe with a twin link

[fast scaffold]

I think revolver is goated, no buffs or nerfs needed other than the blessings applying to melee

[serene sage]

It's funny that 40k is the only game series where the shotguns are generally low powered

[dusk idol]

it is definitely a little overtuned

[fast scaffold]

(I haven't played new patch yet idk if it's fixed)

[serene sage]

shotgun in 40K Boltgun is also meh tier

[drifting moon]

Reload perk and sprint efficiency with 70% rending on crit

[empty creek]

well in reality, 12g & 10g is huge but in 40k, everything is that size & bigger so

[drifting moon]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-your-mouth-danni-king-sistas-shut-up-i-dont-want-to-hear-anything-gif-19439505

[empty creek]

a (((Normal))) shotgun wouldnt really compare well

[dusk idol]

the problem is that before the revolver buffs revolver was meme tier

[south garnet]

prior to the buffs it was borderline useless

[serene sage]

but 4 patches in a row???

[drifting moon]

The fact that lasguns have a perk that makes weakspot shots not consume ammo is insane

[nimble hazel]

Shotguns in most games have a range of piss tho

[dusk idol]

changes to rending also helped the revolver

[upbeat horizon]

yo im trying some builds in the shooting range. now I can 4-to-2 shoot (with melee or range in the same build), a crusher. This seems too powerfull

[drifting moon]

Especially since you can charge one of them for insane damage

[empty creek]

what happened 2 my blaster

[dusk idol]

The revolver did not need the extra finesse buff it got in patch 14, it was already in a great spot before

[tight dragon]

man such wasted stat rolls

[drifting moon]

It got hurt on the buttstock so you had to bandage it?

[empty creek]

its like it sneezed too hard IDK WTF happened

[drifting moon]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-friends-omg-mood-shocked-gif-25312954

[empty creek]

my gfun </3

[serene sage]

friend, what difficulty? which weapon? which build?
ill be the judge 😎

[bleak bolt]

Hadron is the real final boss

oof

[dusk idol]

extra grippy for the blicky

[drifting moon]

https://tenor.com/view/darksouls-gif-20991094

[empty creek]

help me jesus

[fast scaffold]

Buff it til it's good on xbox

[drifting moon]

That's a damn bollock shotty

[dusk idol]

I want a super shotty

[serene sage]

definitely not CA compliant

[empty creek]

peculiar relic

[dusk idol]

I want a double barrelled steel sword of vengeance

[upbeat horizon]

naaah you're gonna make fun of me, I don"t know how to do good build

[dusk idol]

where is my double barrelled shotgun fatshark

[south garnet]

see above, looks pretty shotty to me

:^)

[midnight mortar]

To be clear, it makes critical hits not consume ammo. Not directly related to weakspot hits. But it synergizes with the Headhunter blessing.

[drifting moon]

I would recommend figuring out how you like to play then take some time and look through the perks

[empty creek]

they're in the files, so

[dusk idol]

coming in patch 20

[fast scaffold]

I don't think we'll ever get a proper melee weapon bayonet, but it'd be sick if they made one you could block with while it's still affixed

[drifting moon]

How some people play might not mesh well with your playstyle

[empty creek]

my 13 load doublebarrel

[upbeat horizon]

I love this game so much I spend all my time trying every weapon in the shooting range and hitting everything lmao

[dusk idol]

that loads from the bottom 😭

[drifting moon]

Like my build focuses on crit, weakspot, and great aim. If I'm having an off day my build is trash tier.

If I'm cracked that day then it seems busted

[tardy raft]

Does rating not matter

[dusk idol]

stat distribution matters more than rating does

[iron marten]

well that's unfortunate

[south garnet]

if it doesn't break open so you can slam two shells in, what's even the point

[upbeat horizon]

i'm doing something like that rn!

[drifting moon]

Rating is just a quick indicator of weapon performance