veteran-class

[gusty bison]

Chaff

[south spindle]

Some people really hate the reload on the Revolver, but its so easy to adjust to

[gusty bison]

It just is slower than a helbore after target 5

[south spindle]

Sure, but they're free on Manstopper shotty, you're not intentionally targeting chaff, its just collateral

[gusty bison]

Its still just whatever

Tbh

Id rather actually one shot the 3 flamers than take 6 bullets and also kill 20 random doods

Its not "free"

You are trading away the one tap

[south spindle]

Each to their own, if i can kill more stuff just by targeting specials, that A-Ok with me

[gusty bison]

It kills specials slower

Which isnt a tradeoff i find that good

[south spindle]

I mean if thats your mentality then there is like 5 guns you'd ever be using

[gusty bison]

Especially once u get swarmed by a shit ton of specials

Shotgun also runs into needing to reload

[south spindle]

If i get swarmed, i play in melee, not in ranged

[gusty bison]

And thats the beauty of the helbore

[south spindle]

Infil' get behind them, beat them to a pulp

[gusty bison]

You can shoot while swarmed

[frank ledge]

seen pub players trying to use helbore is funny

[south spindle]

Ok mate dont even

Dodging backwards trying to shoot Ragers at point blank whilst getting stunlocked end over end is what i most commonly see in pugs from HB users

[gusty bison]

Same for revolver users

Lel

The average vet cant use melee footwork

At all

They've never learnt

[nimble hazel]

Send 'em back to the Vermintide boot camp

[south spindle]

Only Revvy can actually do that, Hellbore cant, because charge time

[gusty bison]

Helbore can lmao

Rager headstab

[south spindle]

Ads? Whats ADS? Just blow their face off

[heavy parcel]

Luking for viable bolter build 😓😓

[gusty bison]

Into backdodge

Into headshot

The helbore headstab stunlocks the rager btw

[serene temple]

whats a good ranged clear weapon?

[gusty bison]

Super easy

[serene temple]

I use grenades for single target, and my melee for hordes

[gusty bison]

Surgical

Pinning fire

[south spindle]

they buffed that enough to actually be able to cope in CqC?

[serene temple]

But I'm having so much difficulty finding a proper primary

[gusty bison]

It literally stunlocks ragers

[south spindle]

It never used to stagger fuck all other than bursters

[gusty bison]

If u hit the head

[heavy parcel]

Thank you 🫡

[gusty bison]

Doesnt exist

Use melee to clear chaff

[south spindle]

Well thats a good change then innit

[serene temple]

really bruh

[south spindle]

Fair play, i stand corrected on HB stab

[serene temple]

like when I see crushers or scab ragers in like damn

[gusty bison]

Ranged to shoot ranged/elites/specials

[serene temple]

if I don't have nades

[gusty bison]

Oh for elites?

[serene temple]

yeah

primary for elites

[gusty bison]

Revolver, Bolter, Plasma, Helbore, Vraks 7, IAGs

Braced auto

Vraks 3

[serene temple]

I don't know this games terminology much I just level up and kill

[gusty bison]

Shotguns

[serene temple]

weird

[gusty bison]

Basically pick a gun not the recon

[serene temple]

they just feel so weird to me on vet

[gusty bison]

If it shoots fast take onslaught

[serene temple]

is that a vet issue

[gusty bison]

Nah vet shreds elites

[serene temple]

on zealot it feels right with the bolter

[south spindle]

If it moves, Vet can kill it

[heavy parcel]

Why tho ..

[gusty bison]

Zealot actually is a lot worse with bolter than vet

[serene temple]

idk just vet feels weird as a class

for me

[south spindle]

Its not this wet noodle that people have been making out it is since the Unwavering nerf

[serene temple]

I'm trying to find out why

[gusty bison]

Vet atm is about precision and crits

[serene temple]

not saying vets bad he's just weird for me

[scenic lance]

Which catachan sword is the best and what blessings do you want on it

[gusty bison]

If u cant hit heads/dont have a decent crit build and arent running the braced auto, vet guns will feel meh

[serene temple]

braced columbine auto?

[south spindle]

MKIV, Rampage + Shred/Savage/Wrath

[heavy parcel]

Try kantrael shotgun 🤡

[gusty bison]

Works fine

[serene temple]

maybe I should try more ranged perks with it then

[gusty bison]

I mean

[serene temple]

I'm going for a melee build atm

[gusty bison]

U picked a gun with a hard skill ceiling

Its not going to improve with how good you are

But the advantage is its consistent

[serene temple]

the braced auto has a high skill ceiling?

[south spindle]

Personally i recommend Laspistol for melee build tbh

[gusty bison]

Hard as in "doesnt scale well with skill"

The main thing about brauto is its reliable

Consistent

And sufficient

[remote osprey]

Braced auto is shit. You shoot in general direction of enemies. Waste of bullets.

[gusty bison]

When pressured it will do fine

[serene temple]

it's consistent but it ain't the boltgun

boltgun is so awesome

[south spindle]

Not at all, it facilitates a frontliner playstyle

[scenic lance]

boltgun is ass

[serene temple]

Boltgun is so cool for killing elites

[scenic lance]

Plasma gun is the GOAT

[gusty bison]

Bolter atm has... a weird build

[scenic lance]

THE GOOOAT

[serene temple]

I just think I need more reload for boltgun

[gusty bison]

But it works fine

[gusty bison]

Nah bolter doesnt need reload

15 bullets is 7 to 15 dead elites

[heavy parcel]

Bolter need more buff

[gusty bison]

Just dont spam

[heavy parcel]

[serene temple]

hey babe hand me the .75 cal clip for my handheld refrigerator

[gusty bison]

Spamming bolter is the worst thing you can do right now

[south spindle]

What Bolter really needs is its janky fucking recoil reset animation fixed

[serene temple]

I'll spam it as much as I want

I'll shoot every single grunt

[gusty bison]

1. Its ammo wasting
2. Its LOWER DPS than slow aimed shots

[serene temple]

is that true

[gusty bison]

Yes

[south spindle]

Yep

[serene temple]

huh

[gusty bison]

Bolter surgical atm means 100% crits

[south spindle]

I concurr with Grawr on this one

[remote osprey]

Still believe that autoguns should be zealot-only, while vet has fine lasguns for every possible situation.

[serene temple]

Back to boltgun supremacy then

[south spindle]

Boltgun is inaccurate as all fuck in fullauto

[gusty bison]

The only exception is bosses.

And thats cos u can actually spam a weakspot

[serene temple]

it's inaccurate but I usually just get up close to an elite and blast with boltgun

but it's better ammo if I aim yea

[south spindle]

Arguably Zealot makes better use of them for sure

[gusty bison]

Most elites are a 1-2 tap crit bodyshot

[south spindle]

But Vet can use them just fine

[serene temple]

can vet crit without weak spots?

[gusty bison]

Yes

Trivially lol

[heavy parcel]

[gusty bison]

I mean it when I say you can make every shot a bolter shoots a crit

Literally

[midnight patrol]

What the heck was he using to give 700 plus crits

[gusty bison]

Surgical, Deadshot

[serene temple]

I will look into those

Thank you

[gusty bison]

Deadshot is optional

[south spindle]

Even Headhunter will reach those heights

[gusty bison]

But does save u half a second of aiming

[south spindle]

Not sure Bolter can roll that tho

[heavy parcel]

I thought bolter with 30% weakspot/bunch of ranged dmg talent can 1 shot elites on weakspot ?

[midnight patrol]

Admitedly I used the MkVII and mkIX versions

[remote osprey]

In my head vet is about ranged removal of most dangerous enemies before they become actual problem for the team. Hensewhy ranged weapon should be hard-hitting precise one and horde-clearing should be left to melee because Emperor gave you power sword.

[gusty bison]

Yes

Except maniac rager

[midnight patrol]

The MkIII with its three round burst burns through so much stamina with deadshot. Pain

[south spindle]

Sorry i meant Headhunter the blessing, not the rifles

[midnight patrol]

Ahhh

Okay that makes sense

[heavy parcel]

Proceed to roll for manics too

[midnight patrol]

I might have to pick up headhunter blessing again

[south spindle]

You can get a fuckton of crits out of that blessing, an if you'er not fond of holding your shots its better suited to you than Surgical

[heavy parcel]

[gusty bison]

Bolter recently got a MASSIVE finesse buff

Which is why right now crit headshot builds are so good on it

[midnight patrol]

I need to test this, although the swap speed is just.. Super pain

Not good for a reactive playstyle

[gusty bison]

Same trick as helbore

Push into dodge slide at a diagonal backwards while swapping

Make sure u are aggressive when ur melee is out and always moving so your back is clear

The more passive u play, the more likely something gets behind you and blocks the back dodge

[heavy parcel]

Trying to use shovel for cc rn

[gusty bison]

Boop the mutie on the snoot

[heavy parcel]

Feel good when facing rager alr

[midnight patrol]

.. Huh I need to practise this. I haven't mastered dodge sliding yet

[crude wind]

I really like Deadshot on bolter

[gusty bison]

Me too

[crude wind]

high 5

[gusty bison]

Some people just wont touch it with a 10 ft pole sadly

[gusty bison]

Aye hi 5 indeed

[crude wind]

it's a very useable talent these days XD

people be shook

[gusty bison]

I use it with a columnus IAG :P

Would NOT recommend

Unless ur batshit onsane

Or crab

[crude wind]

haha that is bold my friend

[gusty bison]

Who is also batshit insane

[crude wind]

I think the fastest I went was Graia

[crude wind]

can confirm

[gusty bison]

16 stamina go brr

[crude wind]

he is mad genius levels insane

you can definitely have a good time with deadshot and the agri I though

[gusty bison]

Aye

Without going balls to the walls stamina build

[crude wind]

I really wish they would kill scavenger, obviously fix ammo economy, and replace scavenger with a stam regen aura

that would be so sick

[midnight patrol]

I use it with my Vraks mkVII

[gusty bison]

Yes plz

[midnight patrol]

Surprisingly viable, point and click adventure on heads

[crude wind]

Surgical and Deadshot on that weapon is bae

that gun be so meaty now

[midnight patrol]

I swapped out deadly accurate to see if that improves my crit rates

So now headhunter and surgical

[crude wind]

if it still one shots things then all groovy

[midnight patrol]

Just tested it out uh

Its critting so often I get thrown off when i dont hear that crit shot impact lol

As long as I have stamina that is

[gusty bison]

I feel like headhunter is a waste

[midnight patrol]

After that the chances dips downa lot

[gusty bison]

Cos headhunter resets after each crit

And if ur critting constantly... well...

[crude wind]

does seem a bit overkill

u can get close to 80% in half a second with just Deadshot and Surgical

as cookie cutter as it is, you're probably better off with DA

[frank ether]

Its doable

not always pleasant

both agri and ciag kill stuff fast

only downside is

you become paper

running stam curios

[crude wind]

i have a single +3 stam curio i run on deadshot builds

not really an 'all in' kind of guy on curios, prefer a mix these days

either 2 toughness 1 health or 1/1/1 depending on build

[halcyon pivot]

getting constant dc'ed

even before anniversary patch

[acoustic wyvern]

anniversary patch isnt patched yet

[halcyon pivot]

yeah can't handle server with lots of queque

[frank ether]

me neither really see no point making a paper vet for some crit chance

sigle stam curio is all I'll invest

could I go paper and run shout to balance it out sure but if I cared that much about meta I'd be playing one of the many broken psyker builds anyways

[gaunt delta]

I know I am not a highly skilled Darktide player, because I deeply desire +1 Wound on Heresy

[acoustic wyvern]

thats actually great

1 wound is a staple

[frank ether]

once you get a little better you'll find that another hp or toughness adds more to your overal survivability

you'll get there eventually

[ruby veldt]

im thinkin of goin for 1 wound cause of the nonsense that happens in aurics

[frank ether]

wounds only matter if your teammates actually pick you up

keep that in mind

[gaunt delta]

Technically +Wounds are planning to fail

[south spindle]

Didnt it get changed to be a fixed amount of stam instead of a percentile amount?

[frank ether]

if you want big carry energy you want anything else but wounds and if you go down its joever anyways

[acoustic wyvern]

you should go for it, how you die in auric can be really random

[frank ether]

but if you play with friends

then wound can be nice

as long as you take lesson from how you died

dont see them as extra lives see wounds more like training wheels

Anyways I shall now gamble for some better curios

hadron brick time

[gaunt delta]

Im pretty sure they did. Still It’s definitely a push-your-luck mechanic, and I don’t trust my luck in Tertium

[frank ether]

it demands you invest in stamina now

and you mostly get it from curios

I guess there is that +1 stam on talents for vet aswell

[gaunt delta]

You can get it on weapon perks too

[crude wind]

aye it did

[frank ether]

those I'd avoid

[crude wind]

so true

never guaranteed in PUGs

[south spindle]

Aye thought so, its been feeling way better lately

Laspistol + Deadshot/DnD go pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew

[gaunt delta]

Sure. Weapon perks give big outgoing damage boosts. I wonder if someone’s done the math comparing it with Deadshot…

[crude wind]

it was pretty unintuitive before. Extra stam was the same amount of deadshot stam as no stam XD

[dusty ferry]

Morning veterans
Have a good day of slaughtering heretics

[south spindle]

Yeah.. that was kinda sad because it massively limited the usefulness of extra stam curios

[frank ether]

besides that extra %20 hp or toughness can matter a lot at times

[south spindle]

Or rather, their potential utility

[crude wind]

always

never take wounds XD

[frank ether]

I used to pre-buff to helbore bayonets

tho once they buffed that and I realized exhilarating bug makes me paper I took it off

there was that weird period where I gave up on staying alive lmao

[gaunt delta]

Deadshot is kinda like venting plasma

It’s gotta be tuned to be just the right amount of risk

[frank ether]

the more you invest in stamina the comfier it gets rn

[gaunt delta]

Right now I think plasma venting is a bit too op, but maybe it’s riskier in high diff

[frank ether]

which actually feels right I mean percentage usage was dumb

but now it demands too much investment for some guns

and you basically never have to worry about it on other guns

like on revolver its silly not to take deadshot

[gaunt delta]

I mean, there are some guns that it would be silly to take Deadshot with. But that’s why our build slots include weapons and the talent tree

[frank ether]

the same kind of penalty isnt rly there for gunpsyker

you shoot get free crit juice

[gaunt delta]

They got Peril to sweat tho

They got press-yer-luck built right in

[frank ether]

nah its easy

I've just started getting into it

[south spindle]

Yeah its not hard to manage peril on Psyker

If True Aim worked like Deadshot, but instead of taking out stam, it increased peril by 10% per shot, that'd be way better imo (it would also have to shut off at 100% an stop increasing for gameplay functionality)

[frank ether]

I had like 2 peril deaths and in both instances I was looking at another monitor

[gaunt delta]

True, every weapon that spends Peril can meditate to get some back

[gaunt hinge]

the sheer unbridled power of the GUN

[thick laurel]

I present the latest reject to fight for the imperium! (Because I was getting tired of my cadian vet being edgy all the time)

[gaunt hinge]

burger nurgle

[thick laurel]

burger nurgle durgle

[gaunt delta]

You can get those when the Wendy’s employees don’t wash their hands

[crude wind]

the hero we need

[thick laurel]

She will save Atoma

[crude wind]

immediately dies

[frank ether]

plasma gamers is this worth 3.3k sour milk points?

[kind scarab]

Sure, why not

You won't need to replace it really. Since realistically, Plasma guns work even without blessings/perks.

Base spread is pretty well rounded

[frank ether]

I heard they have some weird math about charge rate

[kind scarab]

You have gets hot, which is arguably one of the best two options

[kind scarab]

Whether or not that's the case, eventually it'll get sorted. So why screw yourself out of a great roll because of charge nonsense

You'll mostly be slamming m1's downrange anyway

[frank ether]

I guess

[kind scarab]

And with right side tree capstones, you'll more than likely be rocking faster switch speed + Higher crit

So you'll be going around whipping out the plasma during emergencies to clear out entire swaths of enemies

[sturdy crow]

Yes

the baseline switch speed for plasma is already really good though

[frank ether]

yooo

yes hadron I am pleased

[frank ether]

I grabbed it

I dont rly use plasma but might aswell have it maybe I'll want to later

[frank ether]

cant decide which blessing to swap on this for dumdum

think I might just leave this as is

just replaced specialist with maniac

[ruby veldt]

@dusk idol dumped FtE for extra nade and somehow it feels alot better

Thanks for advice

[dusk idol]

[south spindle]

So uhhh

the Devblog makes for interesting reading lads..

It would seem we're not just getting one mission in the new zone, we're getting at least two

[vivid ocean]

where's the devblog

on the website?

[inland orchid]

Yea #🐦tweets-sermons message

[raw birch]

so for plasma do u rather on big guys shoot constantly or charge shots?

[thick laurel]

Holy shit I found the beginners again... it is both cute and painful to watch them

They'll make fine operatives one day

[light basin]

Constantly with Gets Hot! bless

[sturdy crow]

Bulwarks and Crushers often go down by one charged and 1-2 m1s

[kind scarab]

First mission of the new week

hella scuffed

But we won I guess

[sturdy crow]

What are you running? Quite a lot of elite/special kills there

The Ogryn really worked those hordes it seems, haha

[kind scarab]

Revolver

[sturdy crow]

Also how did he kill over 600 enemies and only crit nine times??

[kind scarab]

Nothing makes short work of enemies like the revolver and some decent aim

[sturdy crow]

Yeah revolver is awesome, you running Scriers too?

[kind scarab]

Oh no, I'm Vet

[valid apex]

I basically never charge the plasma.

[kind scarab]

I run Ex Stance for the ability to see enemies through walls

And through other enemies

[valid apex]

Ogryn have like 2% chance to crit

[kind scarab]

Which means I can always land headshots on specials through other enemies, making it easier to clear out problems before they reach the team

[sturdy crow]

Lol, thought I was in psyker chat, makes sense

[vivid ocean]

for bombers / trappers i tap

for crushers / flamers / gunners / shotgun i charge shot then m1 if they live

for bulwarks its m1 to stagger then charged

alternatively, if you're a gamer you can oneshot headshot gunners / shotgunners / flamers

[sturdy crow]

Ragers and maulers depend on how close they are

An m1 will stagger them so if they're close I open with that

[vivid ocean]

ye, charged for long or tap for close

is the general rule

[valid apex]

That’s a big waste of ammo

If you’re going to charge, then just charge and 1 tap

[vivid ocean]

idk, it usually takes more than one charged

usually 2

since i dont have uny on my plas

so breakpoints will differ

[whole moon]

as ChAxes go is this a 'good' one?

[valid apex]

Bad tree, bad plasma, or both

[trim hemlock]

Decisions, decisions...

What do I even tackle here? Upgrade Onslaught, replace Sus fire with Surgical/No Respite?

Onslaught to 4 is probably low priority, though, Level 3 is plenty a charge rate increase

[whole moon]

I like surgical, but playing as if it doesnt have surgical

[cloud current]

Where did everyone get a preview of the new vet tree? can't find anything

[whole moon]

the splash loader screen has a link to the new event. there

[brisk umbra]

It's the Mk1, you really do not need Onslaugh that much compared to the MK3

[brisk umbra]

check the subreddit, there's a video of the patch

[ruby veldt]

half tempted to run this cause I'm still using 2 blue curios 😭

[brisk sapphire]

which one chat

or perhaps... both? one for VoC build, the GH one with executioner stance

[vagrant narwhal]

Same, plus with elite density in damnation you often stop waiting around so much to shoot xD

Not to menion the input to charge the helboren seems fucked sometimes

[radiant pier]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

[woeful ibex]

is the server down?

Keep getting backend error

[smoky lark]

does the finesse roll brick it?

[vagrant narwhal]

I would say no

The base starts are more than high enough to continue using it regardless

Not to mention, there are sources of finesse in vet talent tree if you really need it

[trim hemlock]

No, not really

Finesse is an important modifier, but you can make do without it being extremely high

[cloud current]

I feel a bit stupid, I only see a teaser with a small screenshot of new keystones but I've seen people discuss the actual keystone text and I don't see that anywhere

[trim hemlock]

Everyone? Now that’s news to me. I don’t think the entire tree was revealed anywhere just yet

[celest vine]

I have the left one

Works extremely well

[cloud current]

Well at least people are talking about the ping damage increase, but even that I can't find the source from fatshark

[smoky lark]

one modifier left, what should I change?

the impact blessing or the specialist melee damage?

[celest vine]

Specialists

Not a question

[smoky lark]

isnt impact a shit blessing?

Trauma*

[celest vine]

It is but specialist damage is worse

[smoky lark]

ok. what do I change it to?

[acoustic wyvern]

rampaaage

[brisk umbra]

it's the new patch video 1

[celest vine]

Flak is universal for perks

Actually if you gave rampage change the blessing

[smoky lark]

how so?

[midnight patrol]

So, as long as I use melee a lot like a spess mahrine

Bolter's long assed draw time isnt too bad

[acoustic wyvern]

with 5 stacks of wrath and rampage you'll cleave more than enough if it doesnt get stopped by carapace haha

[smoky lark]

i have rampage 3

so I let that shitty specialist perk stay then?

[acoustic wyvern]

would you rather shoot shotgunners or melee them

[smoky lark]

i use the sword when i get swarmed by bullshit that i dont want to waste a plasma shot on

[acoustic wyvern]

good, i would swap trauma and specialists

[brisk umbra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_53jXBsnL4k this video

[acoustic wyvern]

different sword, but the blessings would be the same

[smoky lark]

whats better savage sweep or wrath?

[acoustic wyvern]

in a horde, they're both similar

[sleek junco]

Melk has this. idk if I should

[smoky lark]

3 wrong mods, right?

groaners/pox + barrage + infested all need changing?

[cloud current]

Ah thank you, I don't know why I couldn't find it linked anywhere in the update posts 😮‍💨

[sleek junco]

idk what the shotguns go for, honestly

[wanton dawn]

Rofl, veteran has a setup to get one shot with rashad on scab bruiser without crit and without taking the 30% weakpost damage increase, but you need 80% on damage, first target and finesse. And BM4. And unarmored 4

Ludicrous

[sleek junco]

With what gun?

[wanton dawn]

Sorry, with the axe

[sleek junco]

Ah, wild

This is my currently project, but I"m not sure if I should rank it up from here now

[smoky lark]

Stopping power bricks it

[acoustic wyvern]

huh

[sleek junco]

Damn shame. I don't have a plasma

[acoustic wyvern]

10% on elite and 20% carapace

[ebon quartz]

Stopping power stat very good, want big number

[acoustic wyvern]

you can still use this and its viable

[smoky lark]

sure.

it's a bit temporary

[sleek junco]

Y

ya

[ebon quartz]

Volatile is a bit mid from memory

[smoky lark]

i dont use volatile at all

i tested it, tried to find a redeeming aspect for it

[ebon quartz]

Yeah, Last i checked the difference between min and max charge speed is like half a second

[smoky lark]

it doesnt let me have more shots before thermal release, and it doesnt improve my dps by much at all

[ebon quartz]

It's pretty negligible

[smoky lark]

using this atm

I spent 500k yesterday to try to get a better one

and failed

[frank ledge]

Fellow veterans

[ebon quartz]

Hot

[frank ledge]

We need to fix this

[ebon quartz]

That is pure sex Tek

[frank ledge]

keystone modifiers are at DIFFERENT HEIGHTS

[wanton dawn]

Imagine having a BP so precise you actually need to hit 80% on all stats

[ebon quartz]

Nah you can compensate for it

Perks go a long way and having a psyker around can push it too

[smoky lark]

It's not perfect. I would have gladly shifted some of that ammo roll into perfect damage roll, and I'd like to swap from Blaze away

[wanton dawn]

Oh sure, you could get a power blessing to push over the edge. Still, the difference between 1 shot and 2 shot is pretty high. Also it is a light hit

[ebon quartz]

better than mine

[smoky lark]

Also I've heard that for some reason the max plasma damage depends on getting a "perfect" 73% charge rate

[grim quartz]

hello guys

[wanton dawn]

Oh yeah, I can probably showcast that

[grim quartz]

can anyone help me get the new clothes

[ebon quartz]

Fair, I find the infinite penetration makes up for it. Wave of of specials all getting chunked for 90% of their health is always funny

(not actually infinite but shit close enough)

[wanton dawn]

The point of this BP is to be able to One shot ALL horde with 1 light.

[grim quartz]

guys for the clothes i want i need to do a mission without recieving melle damage

[ebon quartz]

yeah fair

[ebon quartz]

I just did this one myself, Get a low Int Malice and it's pretty easy

[smoky lark]

The plasma cleaving through whole waves of scab maulers, ragers, cleaving through everything to kill those flamers and trappers behind the horde, makes it the only gun that I can do Auric Maelstrom on

[grim quartz]

can anyone help

[ebon quartz]

"On overwatch" doesn't count Toughness damage btw

So as long as you don't lose health to melee you're fine

[grim quartz]

what if i stay afk for 90 percent of the match

[ebon quartz]

Not sure on that front I'm afraid. Always been a fan of playing the game

[pearl shore]

blessings on shovel lads?

[grim quartz]

cuz basicaly i want to look like the guards that are on the mourningstar

with the black armor and red uniform

[brisk umbra]

not your fault, it wasn't there, i honestly thought they stickied too

[vagrant narwhal]

Search for last image i sent except for stats that shovel is perfect

Or well maybe blessings level too no clue what they go up to

[ebon quartz]

Oh btw, Now that I'm reaching the min maxy stage, What are we looking for on curios

[stuck bridge]

Rending on hit one

I like running 2 health 1 stam

Prio health / sniper res 2 / gunner res 1 / toughness / cdr on perks

[wanton dawn]

Imagine losing 7% dmg because you have 74% charge rate instead of 73%

But no no, you should not worry about your charge rate at all

[grim quartz]

guys where do i ask to play here i need someone to help me do theese quests cause i really want this uniform

[fleet garden]

patch when

[stuck bridge]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045597890472579075

[ebon quartz]

Surely that's a bug?

[wanton dawn]

A long lasting one

[stuck bridge]

Bug of course but currently trying relevant

[ebon quartz]

Man

Shit

[stuck bridge]

I'm using one with like 30% charge rate it's not a big deal imo

[wanton dawn]

Which is also why you should not take volatile

[ebon quartz]

I nah I don't run volatile

[wanton dawn]

In any case, the bug is pretty simple in its idea: left click from plasma actually charge the shot a bit

[midnight patrol]

Hmm, okay, so the bolt gun is a pretty good sniper rifle. Being able to actually get one shot headshots at any conceivable range is nice

Dropping 6 man gunner teams before the zealot finds out bullets are indeed very deadly for melee

[stuck bridge]

Revolver also good. Bolter main stre gth is boss deletion ino

[midnight patrol]

Unironically I was doing a hella lot of damage with my surgical bolter fired slowly on semi auto

Was a bit surprised at that

.75 cal mini rocket go THOOMP

[stuck bridge]

Surgical should be on more things

[haughty marlin]

TFW you see Brunt has a 378 boltgun but then you see the dump stat

[midnight patrol]

well then

RIP

[haughty marlin]

I got TROLLED

[midnight patrol]

The one I have now

Kinda wish I got flak but ah well

Or maniac. Because muties are bullshit tanky

[haughty marlin]

at least I have a very nice plasma and gigaroll powersword

but a max bolter woulda been nice

[empty heron]

Has there been posted anything more about the new veteran keystones yet btw?

[haughty marlin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1171088866447478784/20231106090231_1.jpg?ex=655b687f&is=6548f37f&hm=7a614920053fdb2028ee476e1664dc18fb6fc5c9a0c92d1cf383b695fb689fe3&=&width=1662&height=935

[midnight patrol]

Found this in my vault, is the cleave damage dip too much?

[haughty marlin]

it's fine

just pray for power cycler 4

[midnight patrol]

I do have the blessing in my pocket, but its on this other PS

[brisk umbra]

the power cycler that's already there? :p

[midnight patrol]

So that stock sword is a straight up upgrade stats wise, but dunno if I should even bother

[haughty marlin]

I think you'll feel the difference in mobility tbh

like when you try to parry bursters

[midnight patrol]

So worth investing huh?

[haughty marlin]

I would at least roll it yea, hit's a 378

you'll probably get at least one t4 blessing to farm out of it

[midnight patrol]

Right, i got just about enough plas

[haughty marlin]

pretty much everything I own over 365 that's not bricked on dump stat I at least get to 1st blessing

it's cheap enough

[midnight patrol]

Hadron deffo is very meh about my poor Vet lol

[haughty marlin]

probably OK with slaughterer 3 and swap a perk for carapace?

dropping wrath for cycler

since I assume you don't need cleave on a charged sword, with slaughterer power on top

[midnight patrol]

I'll likely get rid of the specialsit one for Cara

pox hoard clear is what I use the PS more often,

[haughty marlin]

yeah

what's your ranged wep

[midnight patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1173609523005632654/image.png?ex=6564940a&is=65521f0a&hm=f67c8bf63b0d4d7c981975d9a401590911c6a1304b3ee156ba94b95612e4d7c5&

This one I shared just now

[haughty marlin]

oh yeah that's gotta be extra important for continuous horde clear with the boltgun equip time

it's not like you can just quickswap whip out plasma and drop 10 walkers with uber penetration like me

[civic knot]

Which blessing should i net? guessing "it gets hot".

[brisk umbra]

blaze away

but honestly, it's usable

[haughty marlin]

gets hot/blaze away is great

[civic knot]

i have another roll

[haughty marlin]

that charge rate though, oof

[haughty marlin]

shattering is bad

[brisk umbra]

i don't mind shattering honestly

[civic knot]

i probably shouldnt have changed the perk then

[haughty marlin]

you will almost never proc it except on monstrosities

[civic knot]

i didnt know that could only make 2 changes to a weapon...

[haughty marlin]

you just don't need brittleness on a weapon that can two shot everything on max difficulty

my current plasma is at the start of this clip: https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1AnrLcgh6b_BPy/d13370P02ZhR?invite=cr-MSxWS0ssMjAzNTQ0ODI5LA

[civic knot]

should i yoink the charge rate blessing from the higher score plasma and replace one of the blessings on the other plasma gun? @haughty marlin

[sleek junco]

Does stripped down negate sniper shots or no?

[haughty marlin]

I don't think it's going to make a huge difference, and it kinda works against blaze away

[civic knot]

okay well which one of my 2 plasma guns would u use?

[sinful cave]

any infantry lasgun enjoyers? what blessings yall run? i ended up with a headhunter and deadly accurate roll but opening salvo seems really good no?

[haughty marlin]

since volatile you want to cool after every 2-3 shots and blaze away pushes you up to heat cap

I'd use the 505 one until you get a better roll

burning blessing swaps on a 330 base roll seems like a poor use of resources

[civic knot]

ok well which blessing would u yoink from the lower score plasma gun?

[grim dawn]

which one ?

[midnight patrol]

Yeah, alas I'm liking the 'railgun sniper' kinda playstyle the bolter has over the plasma

Still has the cleave to just hole through an entire horde, the accuracy to knock off someone's head at 60m

[forest maple]

What perks does the revovler need? flak/maniac?

i know about rending and surgical but what about perks?

maniac/carapace maybe?

[celest vine]

Honestly neither

Keep rolling for 360+

[forest maple]

Ugh why

[celest vine]

I turned this

Into this

[grim dawn]

it goes that high ?

[celest vine]

It can go to 380

But its rare

[midnight patrol]

380 is basically all 80%

[grim dawn]

and curios rating ?

[midnight patrol]

Usually there is at least one dump stat

[celest vine]

Four 80 percent and one 60 is usually the best you can get

[past knot]

Aside professional hows other 2 personalities? They rude?

[slow spade]

Don't worry Hadron will make sure that 60% is damage or stopping power UwU

[true bramble]

Anything above 360 is good as long as you have good % in the stats that metter

[celest vine]

The cuthroat has massive PTSD from being at the fall of cadia

[grim dawn]

how do you know which stats matter ?

[celest vine]

It’s understandable really

[forest maple]

For guns, generally the stat you dont need is mobility

[true bramble]

Massive PTSD? why what does he say?

[past knot]

Honestly understandable considering cadia just kapooshed

[celest vine]

Damage, penetration, shredder, and finesse

[celest vine]

Hes a general mess

“I dont have dreams” “we’re already dead”

[grim dawn]

rolled that

[celest vine]

That kind of thing

[true bramble]

Mobility is the dump stat you shouldn't care much,

[celest vine]

Keep her rolling

You need to spam that

Hes hates witches but like the ogryn

[true bramble]

Its only dodge distance and sprint speed, ammount of dodge remains same for 60% as 80%

[midnight patrol]

Super salty, rude, tries to be as distant as possible from others

Also superiority complex

[true bramble]

Ohhh i think i have that one

"I dont trust any of you"

[celest vine]

Hes cadian exclusive

[true bramble]

" for cadia!"

is that the one?

[celest vine]

Ues

[true bramble]

But his shouts are friking awesome with that voice

I love when he yells "FOR THE EMPRAHH!" and everyone goes deaf 😄

feels very powerfull

[celest vine]

I mean, when your whole planet along with your entire family, friends, home, and everyone you hold near and dear is blown up

I really wouldnt call that salt

[true bramble]

I think he is more realistic and a bit rude then suffering from PTSD

[celest vine]

Even the psyker sometimes comments on it

Loose cannon is a dick and a troll

Professional has no trauma and uplifts the team

[midnight patrol]

Cadians are a lot of things. But not tough as nails is not one of them.

[celest vine]

Doesnt even call psykers witches

[brisk sapphire]

I chose loose cannon way during beta unfortunately

His VoC lines kinda suck

[celest vine]

He just calls them weird powers

On the better side the cuthroat is a kasrkin

So very well trained

[brisk sapphire]

Would change to the right fragging now guy if I could

[sleek junco]

Hrmmm

[celest vine]

Worth it

[stark hollow]

for MGXII do i need stability?

[celest vine]

Keep going on it

[sleek junco]

It's in requisitions. I think there's potential, yea

[celest vine]

Cleave damage is nice but not necessary with you constantly powering up the blade

[sleek junco]

Yea

[brisk sapphire]

See what blue yields you

Maybe ditch from there

[sleek junco]

It's funny, I was just thinking that I needed something for heavier guys since as much as I love my Devil's Claw, it gets rough with maulers

I think we keep going

[midnight patrol]

Hmm..

Okay coms array death zone with the power cells is rubbish

[brisk umbra]

the mk3 isn't as great as the mk6 atm

just so you know

[midnight patrol]

Hi intensity mission spawned three snipers that just nailed us all

[dusty ferry]

Damn pop off

[sleek junco]

I'm getting trolled, I'm 100 short to next consecrate

[stark hollow]

unless you roll good on mk3

[dusty ferry]

Your challenge beforer you gain what could be a god roll

[vagrant narwhal]

High intensity do be intense :) nah but fr first time i went in there was after doing regular damnation for some time the change in difficulty hits so damn hard

[sleek junco]

So the emperor wills it

[dusty ferry]

Do it for the emperor

[celest vine]

Carapace is alright

[brisk umbra]

even then, the Mk6 still is better. But that doesn't mean the mk3 is bad eh, it's just that if you're rolling from 0 i feel like rolling a mk6, now, it's better

[empty heron]

You can in extreme occasions find good weapons from 320+ as well. I have found a couple of weapons like this:

[celest vine]

Mk6 is slow

[sleek junco]

joined in a quick play with 2 shield ogryns. The emperor protects

sorry

3

[brisk umbra]

Fuck that slowdown, that's true

[midnight patrol]

The special spawns are kinda rubbish yeah

[sleek junco]

A MIGHTY BASTIAN

[celest vine]

The 3 is faster

Like it more

[dusty ferry]

The emperor delivers and protects

[vagrant narwhal]

Imo it's great gives another jump in difficulty but it's easy to get overwhelmed if anyone fucks up

[stark hollow]

fair but unless melk gives me a good mk 6 i aint gonna swap

[celest vine]

3 Bullgryn body guards

[stark hollow]

my current mk 6 is usable but needs more damage

[dusty ferry]

Wait MK3 swings faster?

[celest vine]

Rolled this chainsword

Need to get wrath 4

[stark hollow]

nice

ngl i like me a good bloodletter chainsword

[dusty ferry]

What a gamer roll

[stark hollow]

bloodletter and shred is fun

[brisk umbra]

no, the charged up doesn't slow you as much

[dusty ferry]

Ah

[celest vine]

I have bloodletter 3

[dusty ferry]

Can you skip the charge animation?

[stark hollow]

i swear the mk6 has a slower power up animation though

[brisk umbra]

For some reasons the Mk6 charge up slows you down by like 90%, while the mk3 by nothing

[celest vine]

Charge animation is faster

Mk3 for aggressive players, Mk6 for everyone else

[dusty ferry]

Hmm, I should try to get MK3.

[brisk umbra]

Eh, even then, the push attack is just better

[vagrant narwhal]

Shovel tho...

[dusty ferry]

MK6 I have worked with wel enough

SHOVEL

[brisk umbra]

i feel the MK3 is better if you have Power Charge 3

[stark hollow]

i can spam the power attacks for mk3 but on mk6 i feel like i cant spam it

[maiden pilot]

shovel enjoyers

[brisk umbra]

because the two heavy attacks are nice and horizontal

[dusty ferry]

It is shovel time

[vagrant narwhal]

Love shovels :)

[stark hollow]

power cycler 4 is a world of difference from 3

[brisk umbra]

yeah that's what i meant

[stark hollow]

its like night and day

[slow spade]

Indeed

Its usable with 1

[brisk umbra]

Untill you get Power Cycler 4 i feel like the Mk3 is mostly better than the Mk6

[slow spade]

But broken with 2

[vagrant narwhal]

Still my greatest story till now was solo kill demon host with shovel and traded with it at end XD

[brisk umbra]

since the light attack of mk6 really does need all 3 atacks

[stark hollow]

my mk3 deletes hordes

[slow spade]

MK3 bad, Chainaxe good UwU

[vagrant narwhal]

My peak krieg performance

[stark hollow]

chainaxe would be way better if it didnt saw on the light attacks

if you accidentally light attack in auric you die

[brisk umbra]

don't you love dying iff you missclick a light attack?

[slow spade]

"Oops stunlock on every attack"

[stark hollow]

anyone know what the mgXII lasgun's dumpstat is

[brisk umbra]

I think i found a cheater

[stark hollow]

ive got headhunter 4 and deadly accurate 4 so i now just need a good lasgun

[brisk umbra]

I joined a game with two bosses at literally the start of the mission, before the first elevator (the first drop)

[empty heron]

mobility

[stark hollow]

like bosses or miniboss

[stark hollow]

is stability needed?

[brisk umbra]

straight up boss, it wasn't maelstorm

[empty heron]

It helps

[stark hollow]

huh so like the dudes with the shield at the end of assasination missions?

[empty heron]

decreases recoil from ads and hipfire

[brisk umbra]

i mean, i meant two monstruosities still xd

[stark hollow]

is ammo a needed stat or is 60+ good enough

[stark hollow]

i mean it happens

[brisk umbra]

Before the first drop? Never seen it happen

[stark hollow]

just bad/good luck depending on how you see it

[empty heron]

Ammo also helps. But as long as you are running with scavenger and not spraying into the air 60+ should be fine.

[brisk umbra]

Like, where there are no enemies at all, where you mario kart your way to be the first going down

[empty heron]

But damage and stopping power is important

@stark hollow

[stark hollow]

would this be worth slapping headhuunter 4 and deadly acc 4 on? or should i aim for one with better perks first

[dreamy lantern]

that'd work tbh

[vagrant narwhal]

Not to mention the like 3x perks which can help you save ammo

[stark hollow]

do have this though

[gaunt hinge]

them calling it clip size

[vagrant narwhal]

Also i believe the other two models are technically better for (but less ammo efficient of course)

[stark hollow]

like the damage on the xii more

[empty heron]

Agreed. I personally run with the one that shoots faster but weaker when I use I las

but both works

[stark hollow]

you prefer the 1a/IV im guessing

[midnight patrol]

I wish I could like the lasguns, but the dumb reverse damage drop off they have is like.. ugh

Yes I want to do literally almost half as much damage to flak armor at the ranges where I want them gone the most.

Heck you cant even one tap light infantry to the chest.

[gaunt hinge]

use a lucius or a recon or a laspistol

[empty heron]

Laspistol or revolver is 95% of my games

Love em both

[midnight patrol]

I might run the laspistol.

[empty heron]

It's very good

[gaunt hinge]

the pure efficiency brrt of the columnus iauto is too juicy for me rn

i use it on all 3 human classes

[empty heron]

I gotta try the columnus at some point. Everyone keep talking about it

[midnight patrol]

Thing is I do want to excel in counter shooter work

Which means making some silly longshots at times

But I guess the laspistol is still better than trying to do that with a recon las.

[empty heron]

Laspistol does great damage. But you will develop carpal tunnel syndrome in the long run without mods

click click click click click click

[stark hollow]

is this a good recon to build or should i stuck to using the VId

[sleek junco]

By the empror

[empty heron]

Its very good! But recon is not in a great place atm. Still works fine if you like it a lot though

[stark hollow]

cause i currently have a VIIa with arse levels of collateral

not sure if collateral is useful or not

built this as a test

[gaunt hinge]

collat is probably the worst stat on a recon

[empty heron]

yeah it's mostly just stagger

[stark hollow]

ahh

[gaunt hinge]

if you consider suppression a part of stagger

then stagger is the only thing it does

[stark hollow]

oh its for stagger

so less is better if you wanna aim for the head

[empty heron]

It says it affects suppression in the tooltip but idno

[empty heron]

actually. That's a good point

[empty heron]

This could be a very good wep actually

I'd swap the maniac to flak maybe though

[stark hollow]

my other recon is decent but dosent have infernus

[empty heron]

flak armor is the most common type. A lot of the enemies have it

[stark hollow]

im using the double rending already so flak is not much of an issue

[empty heron]

ah aight

[forest maple]

Rending only works for flak and carapace armor types right?

[empty heron]

works for everything

but much less effective against unarmored

there's some wonky math behind it but excess rending turns into a little extra damage

not enough that it's overpowered though

[stark hollow]

5.5 seconds to kill a crusher with headshots on damnation is a lot slower than before but still good

[empty heron]

on a recon gun?

that's good

[stark hollow]

with my VIIa

[empty heron]

I'd personally avoid crushers when running recon - or grab a good melee wep to deal with those though'

[stark hollow]

ive just gotten a little bored of using the recon so ive been trying out other guns like the revolver

[empty heron]

If you get lucky with a revolver test something like this build

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a7fffdc-3fb3-4b24-be81-e771dc039465/veteran-one-shot-revolver

hella fun

and slightly OP

[quaint fern]

ruined

[stark hollow]

this is my revolver atm. looking for handcannon 4

[empty heron]

ye that works. With deadshot you should be able to 2 tap crushers on damnation

without aiming for long

With the build I sent you I'd say 80% of my hits are crits and I almost never aim for more than 1-2 charges from surgical

[stark hollow]

im using similar build for revolver but with executioner stance and krak nades instead

[wooden oar]

🫡

[stark hollow]

how is voice of command

[empty heron]

I love it

it's so good

You never take hp damage

and your allies love you

[empty heron]

sexy

damn

[stark hollow]

ill test it

[wooden oar]

Elite is carapace dmg now. Was testing some stuff.

[stark hollow]

but vet builds gonna change soon i think

once keystones are in

[empty heron]

This one is mine. 5% crit is also carapace now

[stark hollow]

do you just spam voice of command whenever its up

[empty heron]

Ye sorta. As long as you kill specialists it's almost always up

[brisk umbra]

eh, ish

[stark hollow]

do specialist kills reduce cooldown

[brisk umbra]

as long as there's like 1-2 elites on screen you can happily scream

[stark hollow]

or extend it

[empty heron]

aye, first node in middle bot tree

[brisk umbra]

reduce CD

by 6 seconds

[stark hollow]

ah

[brisk umbra]

so two specialists kill means you pretty much have the toughness 100% up

[empty heron]

in other words kill 2 specialists after screaming and it's up again when the toughness is gone

[maiden pilot]

dear god.

[stark hollow]

huh ragers arent specialists

[empty heron]

Check the meatgrinder. Specialists are all the enemies with the dog

snipers, flamers, trappers, etc.

[stark hollow]

ah

[sterile phoenix]

So what keystones are looking good?

[maiden pilot]

hey gamers i’m curious, how do y’all feel about the new vet keystones shown in that traile- lad beat me to it

[stark hollow]

flamers snipers netter mutie and bomber

huh so everything else is elite

i thought the ogryns were specialist

[low oar]

New keystones' value will probably need context with the rest of the tree

But all of them look good so far imo

[brisk umbra]

Honestly, we need to see the talents under them

because the weakspoint one seems shit since you can't move, the tagging one pointless in auric due to the insane amount of taggable stuff

[maiden pilot]

weapons expert seems like the only thing i’d run probably. dunno how i feel about the tagging one.

[brisk umbra]

and the third one honestly op for some weapons

[stark hollow]

man i wish they reduced the cooldown to 4 seconds per kill but it includes specialists and elites

[empty heron]

I hope focus target can be good. I feel like 9/10 times I'm the only one tagging mobs in my games

[brisk umbra]

^

[maiden pilot]

glad i can be saltzpyre in darktide now

[stark hollow]

considering how the game now likes to spam shotgunners and gunners it would be so much better

[serene pagoda]

Spotting one got me interested but then a 5 year old decided to put a cool down on it. Now I'm not so sure unless one of the other talents improves it

[maiden pilot]

yeah idk how i feel abt the cooldown

[unkempt lagoon]

I think your teammates will appreciate the cooldown on the spotting bonus

[serene pagoda]

I feel like the stacks should go up as you kill spotted enemies

[unkempt lagoon]

I can see that being a node

[serene pagoda]

Like for every enemy that you spotted that had been killed, the stack increases by 1

Would be more fun and engaging than fucking waiting

[low oar]

Marksman focus is probably fine. Just keep shooting heads

MG IV goes brrrrrr

[empty heron]

wep specialist seem so good though

[wise elk]

Best weapon these days?

[empty heron]

if you like agile engagement which I love

[unkempt lagoon]

there isnt one

[serene pagoda]

Might be too good tbh

[wise elk]

Ok

[empty heron]

Everything is viable. Up to personal preferance. Mine is revolver

[empty heron]

yeh true

[wise elk]

Not tried one yet

Torrent weapons feel good

Lass/bullets

[brisk umbra]

Revolver/Plasma/Laspistols

[low oar]

Tbh, the third keystone is sorta ridiculous in crit rate. +33% is legitimately 3 kills for a crit

[brisk umbra]

those are the 3 10/10 weapons

[serene pagoda]

I still cant accept how a revolver deals more damage than an uncharged plasma

[crisp bronze]

My Plasma and Mk 4 Devils Claw hotswap vet is hopefully gonna be even better.

[slow spade]

Clearly they meant +333% crit per stack

Just a typo

[brisk umbra]

the rest, with few exceptions (like shotguns), are good if you build you tree correctly

[serene pagoda]

I mean I'd the 33% is multiplicative then its not OP not even close

[low oar]

Plasma shoots way more than a revolver, and has way better armour damage. Plasma gets a damage increase on armour

[slow spade]

Real Vets unbind their ranged weapon and spam power sword UwU

[slow spade]

Just for you +3333%

[serene pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-feris-drugstore-in-another-world-anger-shock-gif-24249378

[slow spade]

💪💪💪

[empty heron]

The math in this game is wonky. I'm pretty sure 33% * 10 somehow becomes 80% at most

[haughty marlin]

top roll power sword is based though

[serene pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-crazy-possessed-freakout-drugstore-in-another-world-gif-24249369

[maiden pilot]

shovel enjoyer can’t relate

[stark hollow]

ngl like 1 or 2 more skillpoints would increase build diversity by a lot

[wise elk]

Columnus Mk V Infantry Autogun/shotguns I like too

[slow spade]

It'd probably lower your crit rate "oops .33% * 10"

[haughty marlin]

get that cycler slaughterer sword and go to town

[low oar]

Buffs should stack with itself additively

[brisk umbra]

They're removing a lot of the shitty move around points at least

[slow spade]

They do

Only damage resistance is multiplicative ingame as far as I know

[stark hollow]

like the in between ones that give toughness and hp and such

[slow spade]

31 point cost to reach keystones

[empty heron]

[slow spade]

"Here's a triple node gap between talents"

John Darktide doesn't need "stats" to kill Mortarian's cringe team 💪💪💪

[rare current]

Does this generally mean Vet will be more fragile or

[empty heron]

uff I hope not. I love being a toughness tank

[stark hollow]

well since weapon stats are capped at 80% now i wonder if they plan to increase the level cap to 35 and in turn increase the stat cap on weapons to 100%

[slow spade]

Depends, if confirmed Kill is fine then we're good

If not Confirmed kill, pray that Exhilerating Takedown was fixed

[rare current]

I'm not too keen on giving up Iron Will so

[empty heron]

wym isn't it good getting weaker from killing with ranged?

[empty heron]

aye same

[slow spade]

Exhilarating Takedown is now base kit UwU

[brisk umbra]

ye

[rare current]

Doubt it, people are already disgruntled enough with the crafting system as is so if they pulled that they'd have to upgrade all pre-existing level 30 weapons

[stark hollow]

some of those are pretty useful though

[slow spade]

Just for you, all Suppression nodes

[stark hollow]

should just hand out more skillpoints smh

[slow spade]

Skill point per 3000 aquilla spent UwU

[stark hollow]

my skill tree would be full

[slow spade]

Lol

[stark hollow]

i dont play darktide i play larptide

[empty heron]

I still haven't used a single aquilla and I've played the game since beta

[gaunt hinge]

i dont even have a single aquilla

[stark hollow]

fair i just like looking cool

[sharp ember]

STILL waiting for a cadian flak suit that isn't red

[slow spade]

None of them looked good to me

[empty heron]

Yeah I just wish you could do that with the ingame currency

[slow spade]

I want the drip

[stark hollow]

THIS

[empty heron]

and not just a recolour for 600.000

[slow spade]

Maccabian Janissaries when???

I know the poll only got like 250 votes. Shit taste is common in Vets

[sharp ember]

they be built like mini space marines

[slow spade]

They're just pilgrims touring the Emperor's Reach

It just so happens to suck ass in 99% of the realm

[empty creek]

NGL all i want is the armor that veteran guard guy has in all of the cutscenes

that & the helmet

[vagrant narwhal]

That's what pisses me off most from darktide skins especially weapons skins

[crisp bronze]

All I hope for is that Desperado is still around in some way. It's so nice for the Devil's Claw. 10% crit chance and 25% finesse bonus is so nice for landing those 2000 damage crit parries more often.

[slow spade]

Na Trench Fighter

30% attack speed with Weapon Specialist Keystone lol

Melee light spam time

[empty heron]

holeup. 2000 damage crit parry?

[brisk umbra]

So what are you saying is you want another recolor for 1400 aquilas

[slow spade]

Yeah Devil Claw has "notable" crit damage

No bonus crit like the tac axe iirc

[empty creek]

buttfucking plague ogyns by spamming parries

it’s kind of crazy, blocking a plague ogryn stomp takes all of ur stamina & deals health damage but parrying the stomp does no health damage, takes normal stamina & reflects damage

shit’s crazy

[empty heron]

ohshit I gotta try this. Didn't know the parry did that much damage

[slow spade]

Be aware that the timing determines stamina cost

So don't get assblasted by an overhead

[empty creek]

obliterating ragers using a devil claw w/ as much impact as possible

basically throwing them

[crisp bronze]

"Commando" vet is legitimately my favorite way to play this game. And weapon specialist seems like the most versatile keystone. (so far. We need to see those sub nodes)

[empty creek]

the kek machine

[empty heron]

Is impact important?

or meme

[empty creek]

depends

most say meme but i like it

[willow badger]

how do you guys typically play vet. pew pew all the shooters and more distant specials so your team zealots/ogryn can melee

[empty heron]

allrounder. Tank/ranged/melee

[willow badger]

like i've been doing ok taking out shooters and such but my per round damage is still lower than the group zealot/psyker/ogryn

[empty heron]

which weps and talents are you running with?

[unkempt lagoon]

dont worry about top fragging as vet

[willow badger]

vet shout, ps6 with pc4, ranged varies

sometimes plasma, sometimes helbore, sometimes mgiv/mgi

[ebon geyser]

elite = moidah
Special = super moidah

The rest don't matter as morrow says

[slow spade]

Just don't purposely dive into melee

[empty heron]

I used to love the power swords but found I was struggling with them in auric high intensity

[slow spade]

Melee should be used to create space to fire

[gaunt hinge]

blitz the map shooting every elite and shooter on the map

[hard cave]

post vet drip

[slow spade]

Pointlessly swinging into hordes is a great way to throw as Vet

[celest vine]

This is what too many nerds dont get

[slow spade]

Impact has its value if high enough

[celest vine]

If it works well for you and you can be effective its not a bad idea

[slow spade]

Got to stack impact so it actually staggers

Too little and its useless

[celest vine]

If it works its not bad

[sharp ember]

i run generalist vet too unless i'm memeing, always have at least krak grenades if i dont bring ranged anti-armor or a mk6 psword

[slow spade]

Na a build can work and still be bad

[willow badger]

ive been running frags just to thin out hordes a bit

[slow spade]

As its skill > gear in darktide