veteran-class

[crude wind]

most people take Survivalist because they don't want to think about ammo

[elder vessel]

Most people take surv because it's HIS ONLY GOOD AURA

[languid escarp]

Yeah

[elder vessel]

3% damage and 5% move speed is CUTE in comparison

[fathom grail]

Bro have you seen my awesome 3% damage aura build

[crude wind]

it's not good though is it, it's broken and warps the game

like

[languid escarp]

3% doesnt matter most of the time

[crude wind]

we're at a point where its affecting other class balance

Ogryn guns are insane with Survivalist

[languid escarp]

The instances where it actually affect hits to kill happen once in a blue moon

[fathom grail]

Also 5% speed aura is huuuuge

[crude wind]

there's no thought to picking it. there's no opportunity cost. It's just straight up the best aura in the game for everyone in the party save staff psykers

[fathom grail]

Makes finishing maelstrom faster

[crude wind]

and it warps balance across all classes using guns

it's got to go

[dusk idol]

it doesn't have nearly as much impact as survivalist does though

[fathom grail]

Huuuuuge

[crude wind]

buff other auras, replace survivalist with something good, fix actual ammo economy in game

make players actually think about what they want to use their gun on rather than this Walking forward simulator we have now

[short wigeon]

Wouldn’t make much sense from a lore and game perspective. Astartes are supposed to be the best of the best. While the average vet player can barely handle their own in melee

[elder vessel]

Surv is not that strong, its strong yeah, but only by virtue of the other two being goddamn useless

[fathom grail]

Replace it with the ability to spawn barrels

[elder vessel]

But not so strong as destroying game balance

[willow badger]

guys how many darktide hours until i stop being ass

[elder vessel]

Infinite

[dusk idol]

the average player themselves are in heresy these days

[willow badger]

i keep getting carried on damnation lmao

[fathom grail]

2 hours

[willow badger]

i feel so bad getting clapped and having to get revived lmfao

[crude wind]

it is that strong, it means you can ignore ammo economy. and it absolutely is affecting game balance. If I'm a ripper or kickback ogryn it means I can fire my gun all game without thinking about whether I should or not

[topaz lance]

learn melee by looking for close engagements

dodge and block/push when needed

[elder vessel]

It is not, im a ripper ogryn and I could have 2 surv vets and still have to worry somewhat about blasting all my ammo

[willow badger]

so just practice and get better instincts?

[dusk idol]

yer

[short wigeon]

Ye basically

[willow badger]

at least i have vet shout so i feel like im contributing

[short wigeon]

Skill comes with pratice

[crude wind]

i have a game recorded as me on Ogryn on HISG with a survivalist vet in the party, and all I do is shoot my ripper

non stop

with fire ammo

[sharp ember]

don't be like the lasgun psyker in my last match who got beat to death by 1 trash mob because he wanted to keep shooting instead of defending himself in melee

[crude wind]

so, you definitely can do it

[crude wind]

pour one out for that homie

[serene pagoda]

3% btw

😎

[crude wind]

what % would that aura have to be for people to acknowledge its existence?

[fathom grail]

Huuuuuge

[serene pagoda]

mfw surivalist giving me one extra plasma rifle shot equaling to 4000 dammage charge is giving me more than an 3% dammage boost.

[shell ginkgo]

The damage aura's biggest effect is saving me talent points.

[willow badger]

my thing rn is getting oneshot by crusher/mauler since i dont dodge fast enough

[short wigeon]

happens to everyone

[fathom grail]

Once you nail the timing they’re basically walking memes

[languid escarp]

Dodge sideways

[short wigeon]

sometimes with them its a crap shoot

[languid escarp]

Do not dodge backwards vs crusher

They always inch a bit forward at the end of the animation

[elder vessel]

Big Hammer Big Reach

[vagrant narwhal]

yeah feels like htibox of attack is off too

but sideways works better

[languid escarp]

Vs rager it’s reversed, always dodge backwards

[vagrant narwhal]

man even then I always get hit by the buggers

my solution so far is focusing on them and trying to stagger them with shovel

[languid escarp]

Shovel isnt good at staggering

[vagrant narwhal]

with the single target attack*

[shell ginkgo]

Rager combos have some lock on. Gotta get distance

[willow badger]

how bout if you're in a mob if like 5 of them

whats the strat

[languid escarp]

Maybe time it as well, they can somewhat change direction during upswing but it’s locked it place right before they swing down

[shell ginkgo]

Kill them

[vagrant narwhal]

krak granade moment

[languid escarp]

Hope your team know what to do

Lmao

[thick kestrel]

pop infil/shout and run ^^

if you're up against 5 ragers point blank then fading is a perfectly reasonably plan for a Veteran

[fathom grail]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1azKoXlLqeurM1/d1337kD2jiXr?invite=cr-MSwxZ04sMTczOTM4NDQ3LA

[willow badger]

whats the strat when you're in a mob of like 30 backed up against a wall and a bomber/tox flamer eyeballs you

[fathom grail]

You fkin throw hands that’s what you do

[willow badger]

cause i usually get fked up when the tox flamer wipes out my shout toughness and get instantly mobbed

[fathom grail]

[languid escarp]

Accept your fate

[topaz lance]

throw grendes everywhere

[sharp ember]

perish

or quickraw your plasma/revolver and bean that karker

[willow badger]

vibes

[topaz lance]

Grenades are your get out of joil for free card

[willow badger]

i guess something i need to work on is positioning

[topaz lance]

on vet

since they regen

[willow badger]

krak will help out with mobs too?

[shell ginkgo]

Cut your way through to the flamer or shoot him after making a second of space

[untold mulch]

Fight like hell, even if you fall down

[late hatch]

use VoC/grenades and shoot the flamer before he can start flaming you

[untold mulch]

Only in death, does duty end

[topaz lance]

less than frag but they will

[languid escarp]

Ogryn nuke nade is so good in that specific situation

[thick kestrel]

glib answers aside, sometimes fighting as hard as you can and simply surviving as long as possible is just the right answer.

sometimes you lasting an extra 5-6 seconds is enough time for your team mates to pull something off.

[languid escarp]

Yeah I think survive and coordinate with your team to take down one by one is your best bet

Use tag

[shell ginkgo]

If your entire team is dead and the horde is on you, though. Go down swinging.

[thick kestrel]

you don't always have all the answers solo. tag priorities, focus on staying alive, go down swinging and it'll work out more often than not.

[fathom grail]

I once throw an ogryn grenade when we were pushed back against the wall and my bomb fell off the edge

[shell ginkgo]

[fathom grail]

Real Ogryn momment

[shell ginkgo]

F

[willow badger]

tzeentch intervening i guess

to fk u over specifically

[vagrant narwhal]

or if veteran has the voice of command, can stagger stuff give breathign space and replentish toughness so you can run in there again

[shell ginkgo]

Ogryn, throw the grenade!

Dropped it, sah.

[crude raft]

Anyone else been playing with the comat shotguns?

[soft solstice]

As long as there isn’t a gunner or sniper, a well timed shout can guarantee a revive

[languid escarp]

Incendiary is good

[vagrant narwhal]

wish I saw more of these ogryns, love their voicelines

[vagrant narwhal]

or have revive perk too xD

[languid escarp]

Since incendiary shells also have piercing

[crude raft]

I've been rocking the one with the slug, one tapping big bois. Is the incendiary round betteR?

[vagrant narwhal]

add clear bassically

[languid escarp]

Incendiary is better at crowd control

[topaz lance]

very different gun

[languid escarp]

Slug is good but if youre gonna play slug why not just use revolver

[crude raft]

Shotgun go WHA WHA WHA WHA

[late hatch]

agri is a better sniper rifle and has more backup rounds

[fathom grail]

https://tenor.com/view/walking-dead-hershel-shotgun-gif-12865167

[topaz lance]

Yeah slug was my main gun until I joined the church of revolver#

[languid escarp]

Slug normal shot deal not great damage

[soft solstice]

The revive perk can be good but I think you’re better off having the normal cooldown and normal stagger radius to prevent downs, it’s made to spam

[zealous wyvern]

are you level 30? if so, try getting actually high-score gear. it improved my performance at least by 80%

[willow badger]

ye am lvl 30

[zealous wyvern]

i waited far too long with crafting

[willow badger]

most my gear circling 500 tho

[zealous wyvern]

i held back thinking id just waste it

that sounds good

[topaz lance]

I'm waiting for the double barrel shotty to be added

[crude raft]

I've got a nearly perfect slug shotty. 80 dmg, 80 knock, 80 mob

[topaz lance]

with part 2 in december (lol)

[midnight patrol]

Different playstyle

[crude raft]

how so?

[midnight patrol]

With the Agri shotgun you're basically still a marksman. You can take shots at range the other shotguns can only hope to one or two tap

[soft solstice]

incendiary is more for groups since it spreads out damage more, especially against groups of elites/specials

[midnight patrol]

The Kantrael is, "I dont want to see this horde anymore"

[soft solstice]

you play like a normal shotgun still, while the agri is terrible as a normal shotgun

[midnight patrol]

It does very well for specials point blank

[topaz lance]

Agri is a sniper rifle with a shotgun attachment

ALWAYS use the special shell

[crude raft]

which is exactly how i play it lol

[soft solstice]

the angri has a low hipfire spread but it does crap damage, it's made for headshots but the ADS is better for headshots too since it has more finesse

[midnight patrol]

The special shell can stun Bulwark shields all the time

[soft solstice]

I would kind of like it if the special ammo on shotguns were a toggle, like you press the special button and every shot you fire becomes a special shot but each shot like 3 shells

[topaz lance]

I get it.
Have you tried revolver at all?

[midnight patrol]

So one slug, reload slug, one to the head

[topaz lance]

That's a lot of fun

[crude raft]

Never used it.

[midnight patrol]

You can even knock Crushers onto their ass with headshots

[soft solstice]

something about slug shotgun hits differently comparedto the revolver, even if I'd rate the revolver higher

[topaz lance]

Try it! It's almost like having 5 slugs loaded. Almost

Gives me the same feeling as Agri

[midnight patrol]

I think it has something to do with just enough breakpoint for being comfy to use on shooters. But a healthy 11-13 round magazine

You can do some good work room clearing

[soft solstice]

except I found that not using the slug is kind of pointless, it feels bad as a normal shotgun

[midnight patrol]

A lot more ammo efficient than the revolver too, a single ammo tin gives 16 rounds back

The big bag is a good 40+

Nah, you're not supposed to hip fire into hordes with it

Gotta pretend it's like a lever action rifle

[topaz lance]

I think it's kind of an even trade-off with the lack of pen the shotty has

well it was before the ammo buff

[soft solstice]

i guess that is also a factor, you have to do the special reload after every shot but you get way more shots

[midnight patrol]

At short to medium range the pellet shot will one tap any lesser ranged enemies to the chest

[topaz lance]

I wish they gave us one with the slug as the main ammo

[inland orchid]

no need when u can just

aim down

[willow badger]

any of you guys main mg iv btw

[crude raft]

oof only 5 rounds though?

[midnight patrol]

You have options is what makes it nice

[willow badger]

or main helbore

[midnight patrol]

It pain

[inland orchid]

tightens the spread something fierce

can almost be considered a slug

[midnight patrol]

The moment you're forced into close range the firepower drops off badly

[topaz lance]

yep, gotta make do. They pen like crazy though, through a friendly Ogryn even.

[soft solstice]

would it ever be possible to get a ranged weapons with duel ammo? Like a rifle with a grenade launcher would be the basic option but I feel like that wouldn't really work ammo wise

[vagrant narwhal]

man why so little plasteel and so much diamantine

[inland orchid]

because alot of low tier upgrading costs more plasteel than dia

[midnight patrol]

Being able to still one tap a sniper at 60 meters with the Agri pellets is such a vibe

[soft solstice]

like the special button switches between both weapons and picking up ammo applies it to both of them but they have a reduced ammo cap to compensate

[inland orchid]

hell u dont even see dia till u get to upgrading purples

[vagrant narwhal]

ik, but its stupid, you never use up the masses of diamantine you collect

wish I could turn it to plasteel in a 3:1 rato or something

[inland orchid]

tell me bout it, all sorts of lads including me that have played for a while

have that issue

of too much dia, not enough plasteel

[vagrant narwhal]

I have been playing for fairly little, still have 4.5k diamantine sitting in there

meanwhile plasteel

66

[inland orchid]

hell my dia is almost 2 times my amount of plasteel

[vagrant narwhal]

my ratio a bit worse XD

[inland orchid]

it is what it is, refining and upgrading is some costly work

[vagrant narwhal]

and will be for a while cuz I need to finish veteran

maybe diamantine could be specific to refining or reblessing

that would be nice too

would have a use

although doesn't solve plasteel issue really xd

[junior grail]

Most agree on diamantine to plasteel conversion mechanic

[halcyon summit]

we should really get a small amount of bia and plas everytime we scrap a gun

orr

we could have it so when you earn a blessing, when you got to earn the same blessing again, it coverts into mats for you

[late hatch]

i have like 50k diamantine

[halcyon summit]

That way it would encourage us to farm the whole arsenal for blessings

and the obviously in 2-3 years just lock a simpler way to get mat

[errant carbon]

Who even knows what cockamamie scheme they have to complete crafting (e.g. make stats above 80 obtainable). I bet it'll be absolutely terrible, then after a months-long deluge of criticism they will grudgingly make it slightly less bad

Good thing the gameplay is good because this has been the pattern for all 3 Tide games running

[late hatch]

the thing is they had a working system, and they went backwards in so many ways from VT2

how bad does your management have to be to drive a game backwards 5 years?

[errant carbon]

Par for the course in today's games industry. MMORPGs and their consequences have been a disaster for video games.

[untold mulch]

Nice pfp

[crude raft]

1456 diamantine, 3 plasteel lol

[untold mulch]

I have 10k plasteel rn (got surprised)

Used 1k on my Ogryn, got really lucky rolls

Time to farm the Psyker next

[crude raft]

The problem is you have to spend so much more plasteel than diamantine for blessing hunting

[south spindle]

Hadron an Brunt have some dirty scheme going on taking all our shekels to fund some clandestine operations or some shit

[late hatch]

lobby browser? nah no one would want to see what games are going on...
good crafting system? no everything must be gacha mechanics now...
just the same quality shop? NO I said GACHA MECHANICS

[crude raft]

I only take a weapon to orange if it has good base stats

[untold mulch]

The game is built as F2P, its silly

10 buck skins

Resource grinds

RNG rolls

[crude raft]

yep, and it sucks ass lol

[late hatch]

but they want more MTX

[crude raft]

I'm just trying to get one character two good weapons, and its taken frigging forever. I still have to hunt more plasteel too

[untold mulch]

At this point I just call Fatshark upper management, leeches

[willow badger]

i'll be honest i just buy the good stuff i see in the shop

[crude raft]

This damn shotgun has cost so much, and I still won'

[willow badger]

since it's probably easier than dropping a mil ordo on grays

[late hatch]

it isnt just them though, like the current stuff going on with COD is a shitshow

[crude raft]

won't walk away with the two blessings I want

[wispy oyster]

Do we know which talents are getting deleted to make room for the keystones yet?

[crude raft]

The only shotgun that sucks IMO is the lawbringer, which is a shame because the secondary fire on it is by far the coolest of the 3. It just doesn't do any damage vs anything but groaners

[wispy oyster]

With how many points are in the keystones, we have to be losing some actual talents too

tbh the best "tax" nodes were the stamina regen delay ones

[crude raft]

I feel like that's situational. Yes, raw power the revolver apparently hits like 5 slugs out of an Agri, but the ammo count being so low makes me not want to run it

Plus the knockback on the slug is great for bulwarks. knocks that stupid shield right out of the way

[south spindle]

You'll adjust to the ammo pool pretty quickly

It just has the pre-requisite that you need to do a lot of melee

[languid escarp]

I use it as an instant problem solver weapon for melee builds

[south spindle]

Which you know, is like probably more than half the game already so eh, have at

Costly tho

[languid escarp]

Since you can swap to it, shoot at ranged threats and switch back to melee so fast

Since you are mostly shooting at specialists and elites anyway, with survivalist ammo isnt a problem

[south spindle]

Honestly even without it its not much of a problem unless you're absolutely hard carrying

[crude raft]

You think so? The agri is effectively a sniper rifle that can 1 tap armored maulers and ogryns, and from what ive heard the incendiary round does better for horde clearing than the lawmaker spread shot

do it

[languid escarp]

Incendiary is also very good at staggering a group of rager or crusher

Since it pierces

That’s true I was just assuring the guy who was complaining about running out of rev ammo though

[crude raft]

Its like porn

[rocky stratus]

is trauma/hammerblow a good combo

[wanton dawn]

I prefer scatter/flechette myself, makes it slightly better against mixed

[rocky stratus]

for devils claw

[wanton dawn]

But yeah, it is not "good"

[rocky stratus]

sorry about the mistake

[vast wyvern]

If it feels good to you then yes. Does it kill stuff the fastest? No, but lots of CC

[rocky stratus]

I’ll use it for now ig

[pearl granite]

https://youtu.be/_53jXBsnL4k remember, the emperor protecc

[vast wyvern]

It's fun to slap rangers around with

[rocky stratus]

i’ve made around 7 devils claws tryna get the best roll but as of yet all the perks are dogshit and no mk4 shred/rampage

literally only just got a lvl3 rampage

i meant slaughterer

[vast wyvern]

No slaughter on devil claw afaik

[rocky stratus]

i was told differently

[vast wyvern]

Rampage gives bonus DMG after hitting 3 targets and is the go-to

[rocky stratus]

so whats the best devils claw gonna look like

[pearl granite]

btw, is there any mod giving holo aiming for gun, instead of iron sight?

[past knot]

What do I put on boltor

[forest maple]

flak/maniac savage sweep/ rampage

[past knot]

Weapon customization

[vast wyvern]

Google darktide weapon customization mod

[pearl granite]

thanks 😄

[rocky stratus]

haven’t got savage sweep once get

i’ve got literally every other blessing at least twice now

[forest maple]

Unlucky

i mean, there are 10 total blessings so

youre gonna get crap

[vast wyvern]

@formal lake shred with desperado talent and attack speed isn't terrible. But dunno if it's better than just plain savage

[obtuse crescent]

Anyone recomend a full auto las that's fun for elites?

Or should I get something punchier?

[forest maple]

Full auto las are kinda doodoo at the moment

maybe try some infantry autoguns instead?

way better

[vast wyvern]

Recon vld with some rending talents is still decent

Autoguns will use more ammo, but kill faster tho

[obtuse crescent]

I sorta gave up on my terrible headshot rateband decided Pen or full auto is the way to go. If i cant aim i can be more efficient.

[languid escarp]

Lasgun crit free ammo though

[untold mulch]

Only recon is automatic as of now, and I cant recommend it

[rocky stratus]

this any good?

idk how the combat blade plays so i can’t make a judgment myself

[vast wyvern]

Las pistol with a "hold to fire" mod shoots fast as hell

[untold mulch]

Laspistol with fullauto mod

And a crit build

Is a better recon rn

Will actually kill shit without bankrupting the ammo of the party

I use deadshot with it, and aim when I want to make sure I want something dead

[vagrant narwhal]

wish crit rate was easier to get in this game ngl

[languid escarp]

Low mobility knife feel very wrong

Also 337 base rating is bad

[vagrant narwhal]

then the lasweapon crit ammo perk would be usefull

[untold mulch]

Yeah, it feels weird

Though, i am used to Warframe crit chances

[rocky stratus]

the spread seems fair enough

[vagrant narwhal]

same XD

[rocky stratus]

45 mobility probably won’t mean much

i’ll just run at the enemy with my autopistol out

[untold mulch]

With laspistol is basically double ammo

[vagrant narwhal]

yeah

not to mention

[untold mulch]

Maybe even triple?

[rocky stratus]

how good are the blessings

[vagrant narwhal]

las pistol has mobility stat which helps with stamina for the crit rate perk

[rocky stratus]

+20 to maniacs is good and i can change the perk but are the blessings good

[vagrant narwhal]

good

imo at least

[rocky stratus]

my pistol is at 69 mobility btw so i’ll just use that to run

[untold mulch]

I am tempted to run it and try it

But idk if I keep up the max stacks for long

[vast wyvern]

Personally I'd rip off riposte and put on a better knife.

[vagrant narwhal]

not the issue

[rocky stratus]

is ur opinion trustworthy enough for me to get it rn?

[vagrant narwhal]

mobility affects dodges and other stuff

[queen quiver]

On my curios I just run, +3 stamina 20% gunner resist, 20% sniper resist and stamina regen on all of them

[vagrant narwhal]

get some more opinions brob, I like bleed

[untold mulch]

Zoom

I am thinking of running gunner resistance

[agile vale]

I mean the Hellbore can go entire missions without needing to reload if you pick your shots carefully

[vast wyvern]

Ditto, also sprint efficiency is super nice to pair with stam Regen

[rocky stratus]

is ur problem with the mobility?

[untold mulch]

Surgical is so silly

[agile vale]

surgical, plus opening salvo plus deadshot is almost 100 precent crit chance every time

[vast wyvern]

Mobility and first target are too low for me, yeah

[vagrant narwhal]

yeah, but that thing is bassically a sniper, unless you are spamming about you should not be running low on ammo frequently

[rocky stratus]

ok

[untold mulch]

Mhmm

[queen quiver]

IT’s useful combined with the suppression immunity even on damnation I don’t really bother dodging them. If the crew is getting hosed I can afford to step into the line of fire for a bit to line up a headshot

[rocky stratus]

there’s another knife i’ll see if that’s better spread

[vast wyvern]

@rocky stratus I'd say use it for a few games before you decide (if you buy it)

[agile vale]

recon lasgun can triple its ammo with crits as well

[serene bough]

Good morning veteran chat

What cool opinions do we have of our exciting new keystones

[untold mulch]

Not anymore lmao

[agile vale]

got nerfed?

[untold mulch]

To the ground

[queen quiver]

Dark tide is dead tide

[agile vale]

rip

[vast wyvern]

Still get some free shots but it was nerfed to no longer give you 3-4 free shots per crit

[untold mulch]

Only affects the first crit, and crit strings are now 2 from 5

Imo it was an L

[silent swift]

yea. The devs saw it and pushed it to the ground and pissed on it xD

[serene bough]

I look forward to playing darktide in the next life then

[untold mulch]

Rending changes had brought down Recon

Shocktrooper change waa only murderring it in cold blood

[rocky stratus]

i forgot i have the wierd arena lady

[agile vale]

Im curious to see what they are. I would love something to do with weapon switching so the bolter isnt so fucking clunky

[rocky stratus]

the right tree keystone is the coolest 😔

[agile vale]

do we know what they do?

[untold mulch]

I hope the subnodes of the left looks a lot better

[past knot]

Deadly accurate with headhunter good on mk9 hh autogun?

[untold mulch]

Only the keystone, not the subnodes

[vast wyvern]

Super handy. Kill some stuff in there, swap a blessing You're not 100% on and go again, see how you like it

[untold mulch]

Also has some silly wording

[agile vale]

mind telling me what they are cause I dont know them

[untold mulch]

If we go as written

[crude raft]

Dude, that is fucking nutty. gonna have to start grinding out a lawbringer now lo

[untold mulch]

Melee vet keystone gives +330% crti after 10 melee kills

LMAO

[silent swift]

Have to, ath the moment In my opinion, the Marksman Keystone is simply a cheek.

[vagrant narwhal]

WHAT THE EVER LOVING SHIT

[rocky stratus]

subnode is just ‘you can movr and it doesn’t remove stacks’

[queen quiver]

Hopefully we get camo back

[inland orchid]

https://youtu.be/jQL6RLvlNFM?si=hc9ZrSbPJ1QVogLP here video with keystones

[vagrant narwhal]

veteran just a better zealot?

[queen quiver]

That shit was busted

[vagrant narwhal]

XD

[untold mulch]

People are assuming is 3% per stack and Fatshark did a funny

Tooltips are a mess, somehow

[vagrant narwhal]

lets hope XD

I mean not that I would be against it but ye XD

anyways im off for a bit

[untold mulch]

330 crit makes no sense

[silent swift]

sadly other way around atm xD

[untold mulch]

Because this game has not another tier of crits

Soooo, it must be a typo

[untold mulch]

Should be built in ngl

[vagrant narwhal]

I mean still

30% is quite good

[untold mulch]

When I saw THAT WALKING counted

Bruh

[halcyon summit]

usually it's the "engagement time" meme

[untold mulch]

+25 from dodging etc etc

Crit machine

[silent swift]

totally. The current state of the keystone is just a mere joke

[vagrant narwhal]

and add some other perks/talents

I think another 25% total

[untold mulch]

I hate when subnodes just have nodes that are

"This is a tax for the node to work properly"

[halcyon summit]

when is vet getting a hotshot volley gun

[agile vale]

thanks, man the gun one seems super miiiiiid

[untold mulch]

Any day now

[untold mulch]

The subnodes better be godlike

[silent swift]

Voss Pattern MkV Automatic Grenade Launche

[agile vale]

partly cause I use the plasma gun and trying to hit headshots with its awful fucking reticle is paaain

[rotund pasture]

putting a shredder together, i've got blaze away on it already: for the other blessing should I go Powderburn or Cavalcade?

[silent swift]

thats what vet needs. it is the fkin standart heavy weapon for a vetern squad on TT

[rocky stratus]

ok the knife is really funny

[vast wyvern]

Hopefully they don't get rid of my 15% melee attack speed node

[untold mulch]

Also kinda ugly that ammo talent is still left tree looks like

Vets with no extra ammo, lmao

[silent swift]

xD ja that was the biggest "fk you" fatshark released on patch 13

[agile vale]

extra ammo should be a early level perk ngl

[untold mulch]

But Ogryns get it on the way for their gunlugger

[vast wyvern]

Cavalcade imo, but can always try out both in the pyskarium

[silent swift]

1. nerfed the ammount from 40% to 25% and also made it nearly unobtainable

[untold mulch]

It was a secind nerf

On the prebeta it was 75% or 70%

[silent swift]

like, ey veteran is definitly not our ranged focused character

[vast wyvern]

Right before executioners stance is where it should be

[rocky stratus]

the knife is a bit silly

[untold mulch]

By 2030, vets will have a -50% ammo reserve

[silent swift]

also why remove suppression imunity from executioners stance? this way atleast it had some real benefit from it and not only mere 25% range dmg

[untold mulch]

Gotta tax us

[rocky stratus]

why do i do 180 damage every punch by the end

[silent swift]

Finally! THis god damn class shoots already too much.

[agile vale]

oof

[rotund pasture]

what blessings are on your knife

[agile vale]

its now a perk

[rocky stratus]

Riposte (i can’t use that in the meat grinder hand flesh tearer

[untold mulch]

I assume you have a rending talent or smth

[silent swift]

But what they did to accatran was totally unnecessary. The gun was far from being totally overpowered like fkin revolver and still they fked her up hardly

[rocky stratus]

Perks i don’t have enough plasteel to change bc of the devils claw grind so there 20+ to maniacs and +8 to groaners/pox

[silent swift]

yea at the end of the world, like ammunition and also needed to wast skillpoints on it.

[rotund pasture]

are you talking about in the last patch, or do we have notes for the next one?

[untold mulch]

Someone at fatshark hates bullpups

[silent swift]

talkin about patch 14

[untold mulch]

The one we playinv now

[agile vale]

yee

but its total suppresion immunty atleast

rather than just for executioners

[rocky stratus]

so anyone know why my fist does that?

[silent swift]

yea but with the CDR on specialist and reset on marked enemies

[untold mulch]

Do you have onslaught talemt?

[silent swift]

in a gunfight you are mostly the full time in executioners

[rotund pasture]

what's your build and what blessings are on your knife

[rocky stratus]

yep

[rocky stratus]

i do

running infiltrate vet

[untold mulch]

So thats it

[agile vale]

depending on the weapon and sometimes you dont wanna pop executioners for like 3 gunners if thats all there is

[untold mulch]

Every sttack reduces enemy armor

[rocky stratus]

it feels wrong to run slower with the knife but oh well

[agile vale]

3 gunners is like instant suppresion but no need to pop executioners for

[silent swift]

ye but at the moment executioners is just a joke. no need for it in anyway.

DMRs do 1 shot headshots without it on everything besides ogres and these are not marked anyway so

[agile vale]

I find it quite handy but I am mostly using the plasma gun so

[silent swift]

Shout by far the best in general, sadly

[untold mulch]

Oj right we lost ogryn marking

[silent swift]

yea, because of reasons. xD

also weakness exploit, why would you change the rending to the half the ammount and make it brittlesness on meele?!?!

[rotund pasture]

I definitely get good value out of executioner's stance sometimes, but whenever I take it there is at least 2 or 3 moments during the mission where I wish I had Shout instead.

When I take shout I rarely miss exe stance

[untold mulch]

The melee part was stealth too

[silent swift]

like hell!? why the fk not just crist with range and meele? or just nerf it a little to be not that strong, why would they remove it completly from the game?

[untold mulch]

They never awknowledged it

[rotund pasture]

and occasionally we lose a mission where I feel like if I had shout we wouldn't have... so I pretty much just take shout nowadays

[forest maple]

Yup, i take 100% exclusively shout nowadays

[rotund pasture]

like exe stance is good sometimes but idk if there's ever been a moment where I feel like I just avoided a full mission fail by popping exe stance.

with shout something like that can happen multiple times in one mission on high intensity damnation

[silent swift]

definitly Grimscribe and the problem with executioners is, that exhilirating takedowns is bugged for hell!

and without it the only consistent source of toughness regen is elites

[rotund pasture]

oh shit, is it not giving the toughness rn?

[silent swift]

now get a fkin zealot with relover and try to get these elites xD

[silent swift]

worse, it does but the toughness DR is a uno reverse

you gain 30% toughness dmg on ur ass

xD

[rotund pasture]

wait what does that mean lol

you take more toughness damage after ranged weakspot kills?

[silent swift]

you receive 30% more dmg

yes

[rotund pasture]

holy shit lmao

time to check all my loadouts and make sure i don't have that shit

[silent swift]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/17q6ve3/psa_veterans_exhilerating_takedown_is_bugged_and/

yea would just be nice to tell the people.

otherwise they think, yea great less dmg and baem in ya face man xD

[rotund pasture]

oh oof so if I want supression immunity or extra ammo I have to either take a toughness damage nerf on weakspot kills or deadshot which I do not like on every weapon

[silent swift]

yea

exactly that is the reason why the left branch is totall garbage atm

[rotund pasture]

what weapons do y'all run deadshot on? feel like it would be solid on revolver maybe?

[silent swift]

no, take surgical makes the deal

aim for 0.6 sec and you have the same effect

[rotund pasture]

i already have surgical so I guess deadshot probably overkill

yeah

[silent swift]

and lose no fkin stamina

[rotund pasture]

but I do like the +25% ammo on revolver 😭

but it's definitely not worth being punished for headshots lmao

[silent swift]

i want it too but fatshark decided that we don't deserve it xD

[hybrid river]

I just hope that focus target’s nodes make it good so I can saltzpyre max again

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/923804142382772285/1173297484127289425/jsaltzpyre-1.mp4?ex=6563716f&is=6550fc6f&hm=ce0ac807e45f7a639e67879a3d1c5669326e5cadbac34a54391ef9f38adbf3b1&

[silent swift]

I just hope Marksmann nodes make this garbage keystone any viable

xD

[brisk sapphire]

I just hope these keystones don't make my builds worse

[umbral scaffold]

how's this curio:

[brisk sapphire]

Would be funny if the tree update makes it more expensive to reach the good stuff in the bottom middle and right

[somber grove]

I prolly already botched it, but i have another, how should i set this one up, or are the other axes better

[brisk sapphire]

And by funny I mean unfortunate

[somber grove]

can change deci and maniac

thats the other one

ahhk

[brisk sapphire]

Antax still good

[somber grove]

BM aight

is first target an alright dump stat just got this from brunts

[hearty panther]

It's funny how BM seems to always be completely misunderstood lmao

Even the old one

[somber grove]

i have a BM axe, but i dont use this one much

i didnt like it

thats why i never use it

despite it being a very nice roll

[merry oak]

They bayonet on the helbore is a faster axe basically

[silent swift]

It is pretty strong i agree but on the other hand it is the only toughness regeneration beside coherency passive regen vet has workin at the moment xD

[delicate moat]

holy shit sunder is so good

[somber grove]

it only does dmg if you headshot

[pine plume]

Hit headshots then

Duh

[merry oak]

And it hits 2 mobs that are in line

[hearty panther]

I quite like the taxes now

[merry oak]

I've rarely switched to melee since the buff

[hearty panther]

They have an actual identity

[idle dirge]

It does need weakspot kills for that though, doesn’t it?

[silent swift]

yes

[tall torrent]

U finally got it?

[delicate moat]

yeah

took a lot of auric grinding for the resources lmao

[delicate moat]

[tall torrent]

[delicate moat]

being able to go through bulwark shield is actually insane

in a mixed hoarde it actually is a lifesaver

[silent swift]

nice sword man, kind a jealous on these modifiers/perks xD

[delicate moat]

it took a lot of grinding lol

[silent swift]

the rng is mostly not on my side xD

[delicate moat]

getting both of these T4 blessings is a PITA

[silent swift]

ah blessings were not the problem for me. This god ripping merchant is!

xD

[fast scaffold]

Well even if they nerf certain blessings you have a nearly perfect template

[delicate moat]

may hadron unbrick your powersword

[silent swift]

out of 100 power swords only 3 over 370 modifiers xD

[wispy oyster]

Doesn't do any damage to what's behind the bulwark tho right?

[delicate moat]

im not entirely sure, but I need the bulwarks themselves to die because they take so much space

plus ragers can like glitch inside the bulwarks and still hit you

[tall torrent]

It can go through the shield and continue to cleave enemies but can’t dmg the bulwark itself

[wispy oyster]

Just know crab was saying brutal momentum is the meta pick on the VI psword specifically. Lets you keep first target way longer than usual.

[tall torrent]

I think?

I don’t think sunder allows u to cleave and kill bulwark behind the shield

[delicate moat]

right, sunder here isn't for dmg, it's for pearl clutching to save my ass :3

[wispy oyster]

Cleave targets isn't the same as cleave damage, at some point you will still be doing 0 damage with sunder

[tall torrent]

BM is the #1 meta pick
Sunder is the niche situation pick

[wispy oyster]

You gotta kill them eventually, If it's not helping kill then I'm not taking it personally.

[sly wigeon]

The "on overwatch" and "make every shot count" Penances are not completing for me, despite having done them multiple times. Is anyone else having this issue or have a workaround?

[wispy oyster]

And Pswords don't really need help with mixed hordes IMO. Especially with the VI and it's oneshot push attack

shit is broken

[tall torrent]

Did u take health dmg when doing On Overwatch

[sly wigeon]

i did not, no

[tall torrent]

Hmm weird

[sly wigeon]

Ill keep trying but its getting very annoying

[stoic birch]

What to use for Chainsword Perks ?

[bitter scroll]

just suicide and let 3 friends do it in Assassination. Dev havent fixed random enemy spawn behind or dog run paste you and you still count as melee damage

[delicate estuary]

Can people stop telling to not look for plasteel

[left patrol]

I will start telling people to skip it now yw

[zealous wyvern]

well they can ask for it. but if anyone demands it they are toxic and i wish they stayed quiet

i had someone try and votekick a team mate for looting so he got kicked instead

[shell ginkgo]

Yes. Keep looking for it though.

[willow badger]

d:eyes

🫢

charge rate kinda dogshit tho

does that matter

[shell ginkgo]

Not bad. Charge rate being too high lowers damage anyway

[rotund pasture]

really? how

[willow badger]

did not know that

[forest maple]

theres a wild list somewhere that notes damage difference

[scenic bronze]

https://imgur.com/Z0j1WQJ

[forest maple]

based on charge

[willow badger]

worth picking up?

also

[shell ginkgo]

Something here

[soft solstice]

penetration could be alot better but seems fairly solid, I don't know the exact number you need on defense to get the 6th dodge so I don't know how low you can afford to let it be, but still, cheaper pushes and better sprint is nice if you're into that

i'd run that shovel for sure

[willow badger]

guessing that stopping power is not great

did hadron fuck me

[shell ginkgo]

[umbral scaffold]

They are just idiots really

[soft solstice]

crit hit damage isn't great but I guess kind of works with gets hot, though you should still replace it. reload speed feels nmice but it's not something to make you hit breakpoints, I guess either replace both perks or replace crit damage and either blessing depending on what you care for less, but i've never used gets hot so I don't know how good it is

[umbral scaffold]

I do feel another buff for the devils claw and a readjustment with its parry needs a look at

[willow badger]

what would you swap crit hit damage for

[wispy oyster]

Only time it's acceptable is when the guy running off alone to search has major skill issues and should never be away from the group.

[soft solstice]

most people go maniac, and either unyielding/carapace, I forget which bit should all be good. Anything but infected and unarmored should be useful

[untold mulch]

wait wait 47% is still pretty good damage

whats this fucking code

[gilded cobalt]

any reccomondations for how to get power cycler 4, or is the best way just upgrading brunst armory greys to blue to see if it rolls it

[scenic bronze]

Immeasurably complex code

[forest blaze]

It’s an interesting design choice to have damage spikes in waves for the charge rate.

[tight dragon]

is this good or am i missing breakpoints

[forest blaze]

Looks good. I’d just change the perks to +flak/maniac/unyielding and you’re good to roll

[scenic bronze]

I don't think design choice is the right word when the release just had bars for values

[hearty panther]

https://clips.twitch.tv/DaintyClumsyPrariedogMcaT-OBUSvxk9eK_ntPQN

[chilly cobalt]

Put slaughterer on it

[forest blaze]

It’d still be a design CHOICE tho right? Lmao

[scenic bronze]

Design inevitability for fatshark

[forest blaze]

Loooooool

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-thano-marvel-snapped-gauntlet-gif-15240315

[trim steppe]

Dont do this, BM > Slaughterer now

[tight dragon]

well best i can do is rampage 3 but i thought brutal momentum was the bis

[trim steppe]

It is

[forest blaze]

Whatever you do. Don’t lose the power cycler

[untold mulch]

[trim steppe]

PC4 and BM is the BIS for power sword

[forest blaze]

Sure is

[fading grove]

Anyone like the Mk7 Devils C law? If so what blessings to look for

[untold mulch]

Looking at the reddit of darktide

We have achieved Longlas at home

[willow badger]

is the scope from extended extended

[forest blaze]

Hot take. I can’t stand mod posting.

[untold mulch]

idk, but man, at least people can now cope

[gusty sonnet]

Still better than scoreboard posting, not that I like mode posting in the first place though.

[forest blaze]

Dude for real

Scoreboard jerking is the worst

[idle dirge]

I only scoreboard post anywhere if I did the worst

[scenic bronze]

They hit gold with all the ways weapons can look

[iron marten]

Scoreboards a decent way to check if you’re keeping up with the team

But yeah scoreboard chasing is a bad drug

[forest blaze]

Scoreboard posting is cancer

[iron marten]

I’ve done it before so I can’t talk lmao

[forest blaze]

“Look how good/bad this game went”

[unique sorrel]

its only useful for finding bad players, which you can do without a 3rd party tool

[idle dirge]

People see a teammate with less kills than them and think they’d be better off if that teammate didn’t exist

[forest blaze]

The only thing I don’t want is someone to habitually get downed. I don’t care if they don’t keep up with kills. Just don’t go down and I’m happy.

At least they can take aggro for me when I use infil 😂

[iron marten]

I don’t care if you’re bad, let’s just win :p

[willow badger]

i totally get downed all the time lol

[forest blaze]

Kek

[willow badger]

am trash

still running damnation cause gotta learn good habits somehow

[forest blaze]

I’ve been grinding my friend with doing AH and AD HISG so he can learn to dodge.

He only recently started dodging at audio cues

[idle dirge]

Honestly I’ve never paid attention to any audio cues ever, except for like.. snipers, trappers, and hounds. And mutants but they don’t really count

[forest blaze]

Really it’s trappers, flamers, and snipers. Hear the noise and dodge.

[inland orchid]

wdym those very loud cues

matter alot

[fair jay]

Mfw dodge to sniper audio cues and still get hit

[forest blaze]

Or. Just tag them and I’ll shoot them with plasma. Games are easier if there’s no specials.

[fair jay]

Does flamer not adjust aim if you dodge out of the way when they schuut flame?

[forest blaze]

He does typically

I literally get hard at this thought

[inland orchid]

they do it just takes a sec for it to train back onto you

[fair jay]

Yeah I’m worried about like spreading the fire everywhere

And making my team go aaaaa

[inland orchid]

then do what everyone else plans to do

and kill the damn thing before it causes a bigger mess

[forest blaze]

The biggest thing is to not get your toughness nuked for the split second in fire

Yep

The trapper/Flamer/mutant combo will end games pretty easily

[untold mulch]

Same

[idle dirge]

We were just talking about scoreboard posting

[untold mulch]

Once I get disabled in some way

PUGs spiral, by norm

its very funny to see ngl

[idle dirge]

I find bombers way more annoying than flamers honestly

[half path]

is there any practical use for this or are they just trying to say you are too poor for more leg armour?

[forest blaze]

I almost exclusively play pubs. It’s why I use infiltrate, frag, scavenger, plasma

[serene sage]

How do I get the win/loss thing?

[fair jay]

I have to say I’m probably one of those pugs I’m pretty bad at game still

[iron marten]

Update scoreboard mod

[untold mulch]

Yes, but both are a pain

[idle dirge]

It’s so you can play hopscotch

[serene sage]

So the same mod, just updated?

Thanks!

[iron marten]

Ye

[agile vale]

I think its protection for the leg you keep up when you're kneeling

[serene sage]

Ngl I've been crutching stun immune hard

I don't worry about bombers anymore

[forest blaze]

No shame

[agile vale]

One knee is in the dirt and doesnt need as much protetction

[serene sage]

Wonder when that changes how I would fare haaha

[forest blaze]

Yah I’m not super excited for changes since I have my build dialed in the way I want

[idle dirge]

I might have to give up my close damage on ability for the stun immunity, honestly

[forest blaze]

Totally

[serene sage]

I'm cautiously hyped

I'm hype for swap speed

[idle dirge]

Maybe I shouldn’t get the stun immunity so I don’t have to get reaccustomed when it’s removed lmao

[serene sage]

But very worried for Confirmed Kills

[forest blaze]

The problem I have is that the keystones are gonna be bugged anyways….

[serene sage]

Without Confirmed Kills vets will be very squishy

Like Catch a Breath is a meme if you want to try hybrid

Out for blood isn't enough to regen toughness

[forest blaze]

Swap keystone looks good for my playstyle since I use PS+Plasma and frequently am swapping.

Dude

Kickback is fucking ridiculous

[ruby totem]

I love this game

[serene sage]

If there isn't a good way to regen toughness hybrid vets would be oomed

[agile vale]

how have you managed that

[ruby totem]

I think I carried too hard and pulled something

[serene sage]

Tfw

[forest blaze]

I got the vet line the other day: “I don’t trust any of you” when I had to pick up all 3 players and we ran to an elevator after a slog fight. It made my day.

[ruby totem]

Also I'm pretty sure it's the Weapon Customization mod. This never happened before I downloaded it

[idle dirge]

Kickback is like the meme shotgun of putting a mortar shell in a flare gun

[forest blaze]

Everyone going down and me doing my very best to keep the game from failing. We all limp to the elevator and the vet just shits on everyone

[ember folio]

I want to feel like I'm playing the boggest of standard fps, how should I build? (Probably want an autogun of some sort)

[forest blaze]

Probably Columnus, dagger, executioners stance, frag grenade

[ember folio]

Columnus 2?

[forest blaze]

You’re playing COD at that point

Yah idk I don’t use autoguns but columnus I hear is good

Dagger for that quick melee feel

[ember folio]

Columnus has mk 2 and mk 5 so idk what to use there

[forest blaze]

Yah idk

I play warhammer to use plasma

[brisk ruin]

Columnus is pretty fun. Dunno how viable it's gonna be in aurics though

[ember folio]

2 or 5 though?

[forest maple]

Agri and columbus slap

fav for me is agri

[ember folio]

oh
okay okay so what are the good autoguns and which mks?

[inland orchid]

i bring a braced autogun to aurics and i do ok

my broski really wants me to use headhunter autoguns instead but i dont

[ember folio]

like what gun is most cod

[forest maple]

Agri and columnus for autoguns

also agri braced

looks like an ak

[brisk ruin]

All I know is that I usually out damage everyone in damnation with Columnus 2

[forest blaze]

By mag dumping hordes? Kek

This is why I stopped using Krak. They raise my blood pressure when I see them stick to something I didn’t intend

[ember folio]

which mk!? ;0;

[forest maple]

Infantry autoguns have 3 variants. Agripinaa and columnus are 2

same with Braced autoguns

[scenic bronze]

Use smoke and never worry about using it again

[forest maple]

One category is Braced autoguns, the other is Infantry

[inland orchid]

the power of magnetic properties my fellow reject, too far of an arc and the properties dont function

making it just a long fuse single target killer

[ember folio]

which will be most call of duty

[forest blaze]

Kek. I’ve gone back to frag grenades and just take all the grenade regen stuff so I can drop grenades like leaflets

Carpet bombing the countryside

[forest maple]

All are full auto. I dont know what you are looking for? Braced autoguns cant aim down sights so you moslty run and gun from hip fire

INFANTRY autoguns can be ADS

[ember folio]

i guess ill probably run infantry

[forest maple]

Columnus variant has faster firerate, agripinaa has slower but higher damage

[ember folio]

ah okay infantry agri sounds like my style

[forest maple]

Purchase one agripina and one columnus "infantry" autogun and see which feels better

[brisk ruin]

No reason not to c:

[ember folio]

i like more marksman-style weapons generally but i want to play more like a standard fps just cause i think itd feel nice, agri sounds like it still leans toward marksman while keeping the feel im looking for

[forest maple]

These two variants are what you are looking for

[serene bough]

Not really

[ember folio]

can someone hop into strike team 47 and help me talent up? lol

[serene bough]

Blessing are bad and infested damage is useless

[forest maple]

For me, not really. Reload speed and falter are dead perks/blessings and infested and opening salvo are kinda bad so you are 0/4

[serene bough]

If I had to salvage it though I'd keep opening Salvo and swap the other for headhunter, then infested for flak/unarmored

[forest maple]

Its servicable for now, but keep looking for another one

carapace on infantry lasgun is dead

😿

You need to be somewhat lenient with your plasteel spending

[inland orchid]

it only bad cuz we dont got roomba level teammates snagging anything on the mission

[brisk ruin]

Just give fixed plasteel and diamantine rewards for finishing missions based on difficulty

[forest maple]

if you have a decent melee/ranged setup for now, don't waste too much plasteel on other stuff

[brisk ruin]

Instead of encouraging people to waste time and wander off to look for it

[forest maple]

I said before that special conditions + books need to give flat plasteel returns

• the ordo dockets

[brisk ruin]

Or just make the actual crafting system not cancer

[forest maple]

2 corrupt tomes brought back= 200 plasteel

[elder vessel]

Using the Shovel is like using a frying pan ong

[forest maple]

We take what we can 😦

[elder vessel]

Ogryn shovel is like swingin the whole damn stove

[forest blaze]

If I could snort diamantine to do increased melee damage, I would

Let me grind that shit into combat stims and special bullets

[foggy terrace]

special ammunition / one-time blessings

Let me bribe Hadron to bless my chainsword with holy oils to make it do more damage on special activiation

[delicate estuary]

man is tehre some sort of meme I can make with smoke nades

[ember folio]

does rending linger or is it just for the given hit?

like if i backstab with ruthless, will my gun do more damage after too?

[gusty sonnet]

Exec stance. That's it

[brisk sapphire]

Man the redacted vet penances really ain't too bad, just finished the last one this morning and I only started going for them just last night

[glacial peak]

ok if i had to choose between the 10% rending talent and one of the stacking brittleness tallents which should i go for?

[unique sorrel]

yeah, plasteel is so valuable but there's no gameplay loop involvement. flat bonuses for things like no deaths, low/no downs would be very good

[gusty sonnet]

Yeah, the worst ones are psyker's by far

[unique sorrel]

otherwise it's just scavenge and then you're playing the game to prepare for playing the game

[umbral scaffold]

max toughness for a curio is 17% correct?

[brisk sapphire]

Only redacted penances I haven't finished at this point

[glacial peak]

yes

[crude wind]

Correct

[brisk sapphire]

Vet is my third most played admittedly

[ember folio]

using agri 1 autogun, should i use deadshot, 25% damage against ogryns and monstrosities, or just something else entirely?

oh crap i didnt get the 60s grenade replenish, nvm thats what ill put it in

[forest maple]

No, never use deadshot with full auto guns

[crude wind]

I used Deadshot with Agri I

it's really good

[forest maple]

[glacial peak]

does onslaught reset the durration of all brittleness stacks on every application

[crude wind]

doesn't cain through stam like the other 2

[soft solstice]

i just used a mk4 tactical axe for the first time in forever and holy shit is it so much better than the other tactical axes, it has way better swings and by far the best special out of all of them

[sick marsh]

is the heavy laspistol particularly good, and what sorta build and blessing should I have it focused on?

[sharp epoch]

decent with the new patch, you probably want a melee focused build with the weapon swap talent

[gusty sonnet]

Heavy laspistol is good for crit builds

[sharp epoch]

and deadshot added on

[soft solstice]

las pistol is really nice, it can pump out nice damage and great to shoot from the hip

[merry oak]

I got a macro and it turns it into a laser UZI

[pure rover]

Melk selling this stupid thing and i want it for stupid reasons....

[sick marsh]

ok so say I went laspistol and shovel, would that be acceptable?

[sharp epoch]

sure io guess

[merry oak]

Might have to worry about armor a bit

But it would work

[broken spade]

When you said macro, i was expecting gameplay like this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1054939924572426351/Desktop_2022.12.15_-_18.34.34.02.mp4?ex=654aea5d&is=6538755d&hm=9a05e4407dd3b5f3e2626bece97feb8f174f814c067161f3e2d285e95097313e&

[sick marsh]

is this combo a viable strat?

[broken spade]

old footage btw, not sure if this still works as well

[sick marsh]

ah ok

[merry oak]

No lol I just hate pressing M1 to fire for effect.

[broken spade]

I think there's a mod that does that for you though

[glacial peak]

full auto mod or a macro is needed for las pistol lol

[merry oak]

Yea. I slapped a Marco on my helbore and it fires just a bit faster than the MG LA kantreal

[broken spade]

Was it called FullAuto?

[glacial peak]

full auto yeah

[spice wadi]

i embrace the rsi

[glacial peak]

im good chief

[merry oak]

I like my wrist. I use it for other things

No ty

[spice wadi]

if moving ur finger doesnt sound like a car trying to start in winter why did god give u it

[broken spade]

the wrist injuries are part of the experience

[inland orchid]

like one of the vet personalities says

its all in the wrist

[merry oak]

A couple spine injuries are good enough for me atm

[inland orchid]

i thankfully built a tolerance via playing cookie clickers in my youth

so my fingers dont care

[merry oak]

Come back after 40 years and say that again

[inland orchid]

if im able to play a videogame on keyboard when im that old

i aint gonna come back here to brag

[merry oak]

Exactly

Tbh not alot of things are still here from the 00's

[sick marsh]

yea or nay?

[inland orchid]

is a 378, even if it had bottom roll damage

[merry oak]

Give it to hadron and see

[inland orchid]

i would say yea

[pine snow]

mfw you go so braindead shooting shit with your plasma rifle you dont realize you've been absolutely blasting a daemonhost with plasma on damnation

[sick marsh]

first one I ever bought. mobility isn't high but it's not awful. I won't roll anything better for a while so might as well invest.

[inland orchid]

bought? nice the armory getting generous with ur operators

[umbral scaffold]

I hope Hadron is merciful

[merry oak]

Shooting plasma in the vicinity pisses it off

[inland orchid]

usually people brunts for something like that

[sick marsh]

it wasn't with me trying to roll a better chainsword for the past 2 weeks.

[merry oak]

If they give kantreal with a bayonet that would be nice

[inland orchid]

lol ya for some reason the shop has a 6th sense

[sick marsh]

yes.

[umbral scaffold]

Plas is very meta right now isn't it. Played a few games last night and every other vet had one

[merry oak]

Not really not when you take the rending perk

[inland orchid]

if u dont blow up ur set with big specialist/elite damage

[merry oak]

In the skill tree

[inland orchid]

other than that? low ammo pool

practically only have 2 clips including the one in the gun

[merry oak]

Lasguns been eating good this patch

Solid firearms took a hit when the ammo pool was reduced

Which makes sense lore wise lasguns are the economic option

[untold mulch]

Get shocktrooper and you double ammo capacity

[merry oak]

Roll up in the hab to do some ganger mischief

[untold mulch]

shame we can't gansta fire 😔

though we aim 45 degree, close enough

[merry oak]

While gangster fire is dumb. It is a feature that would be funny

[mental sun]

I'm no autogun expert, this worth grabbing for some melkbucks?

[merry oak]

Eh

[untold mulch]

I don't remember brauto having good blessing anyways

[merry oak]

People take it for the raw Stat

Iirc

[glacial peak]

this look ok btw?

[empty creek]

hadron treatin me well bruh

https://tenor.com/view/eating-starving-gif-26035414

[merry oak]

Nice change up the blessings and it's solid

Don't forget it's bayonet hits like an axe

[empty creek]

IK, U can also bayonet rush now

[merry oak]

300 ish damage

[empty creek]

wait naw thats the mk3 w/ the axe swing, the mk2 & mk1 have stabs

[merry oak]

And pierces

Both are the same

The thrust is more useful

[real mantle]

I wish shotguns had a bit more stopping power

[empty creek]

bayonet rushing almost doubles the damage iirc

[merry oak]

I remeber bayoneting a hound in mid air

That was fun

[brisk sapphire]

Similar to my most used build

Love the melee tree

[merry oak]

Saved the sister of battle wannabe from the hound

[brisk sapphire]

And bottom middle always great

[glacial peak]

so i didn't miss anything important really?

[merry oak]

The melee damage boost in the tree also affects bayonets btw

[brisk sapphire]

Depends on weapon. May want deadshot for revolver for example

But for like brauto it's good

Onslaught goes hard

[glacial peak]

dead shot is in narnia tho

[brisk sapphire]

I use that build with Columnus IAG lately

My similar build that is

[glacial peak]

i think the plan is like agri brauto with mk6 power sword

[ember folio]

how do i make knife good for horde?

[glacial peak]

im roughing it with devils claw revolver rn because im just 28

[cyan anchor]

for veteran sneaky build do I want the knife with bleed and 90% rending on back stab?

cause rn i got a knife with 2 bleed blessing one for crit hits bleeding and bleed for non crit hits should i make a knife for the backstab and bleed?

[mystic belfry]

You don't really need the bleed, the rending is the important one

Riposte is pretty nice if you're wanting to build bleed for crit chance, Precognition adds some damage, particular when not using stealth

Also, ideally go for 100% on your rending backstab blessing

[cyan anchor]

so i want the backstab blessing and a blessing called Riposte?

[mystic belfry]

That's what I like on it. Riposte gives 20% crit chance on a successful dodge.

if you're just wanting to stack bleed, flesh tearer is fine to. It really depends on what you're trying to do with the knife

[cyan anchor]

stab they butthole

[mystic belfry]

You can also just take Precognition, which is flat finese damage on a dodge

So just highest damage per stab then?

[cyan anchor]

yeah

[serene bough]

@serene sage

[serene sage]

lel

[mystic belfry]

probably precognition and ruthless backstab, if you're willing to dodge to get the finesse damage

[serene bough]

connection was total ass

but we did it

[serene sage]

yeah you were doing great even with that though

[pine snow]

why does the armorer hate me

[serene bough]

since last patch my connection has been tanking and idkw hy

[pine snow]

i get one amazing plasma gun

hadron nukes it

armorer only gives me shit stat ones now

[cyan anchor]

yeah i want to use infiltrate get behind the lines and stab the biggest boi

[mystic belfry]

I would also like to know this

[serene sage]

clearly, skill issue

[mystic belfry]

if you don't want to dodge to get your finesse damage, take Mercy Killer and use your nade to apply bleed

[serene bough]

true

[cyan anchor]

ok mercy killer blessing and ruthless back stab, thank you!

[mystic belfry]

Good luck :)

[serene sage]

does anyone know what the extended scoreboard mod is called?

[pine snow]

Ovenproof’s scoreboard i think

[ember folio]

I hate knife now.

[gaunt haven]

Bolter gaming am I right?

[tall torrent]

What should I swap infested to?

[pastel geode]

Lawbringer shotgun is obviously the new meta

[mystic belfry]

Flak damage

[gaunt haven]

I usually have something to deal with the armored guys

Like Flak yea

[tall torrent]

Thx

[gaunt haven]

You beat me to it

[hollow turtle]

Lol I don't blame them. AI spawner had a field day with the Dreg gunners.

[trim steppe]

This is if you're grinding out greys at Brunt's ya? I just check the shop all the time and pick up everything 370+, plenty of bases to find godrolls from. Plasteel is definitely the bottleneck for me lol

[thick laurel]

Met my first troll today 😔

[serene sage]

alas these wretched days must be yours

[thick laurel]

Fucked around not doing anything, just watching everyone else, then someone goes down to bomber forcing them into five gunners (no fault of his, just bad luck), he says 'someone is already down, it's a gg' and runs ahead into a demonhost, triggers, and leaves.

[south spindle]

All well an good if you can kill them

[thick laurel]

873 hours though without a troll before, that's a good record

[south spindle]

If they kill you an you leave, congratulations, you just fucked three people's game

[sharp epoch]

guys vetgryn build is so good

[serene sage]

see damage
must be kickback
check
mfw

[sharp epoch]

but look at the plasteel

iu dont think so

[thick laurel]

Yeah I've seen oggenheimer before

[sharp epoch]

i only made him after nuke came out

[thick laurel]

Do you or anyone recognise me?

[sharp epoch]

oh i seen margeret thatcher

idk about montov thats a defauklt name

[thick laurel]

Yeah, guess what my first character was lol

[serene sage]

are you on NA?

[sharp epoch]

my first vet has default name too 😔

[serene sage]

cause marget sounds familiar

[thick laurel]

Idk so I'm going to say maybe

[sharp epoch]

he means are you on north american server

[thick laurel]

Can't remember what I'm on and need to check

[sharp epoch]

wah it should be where u live

[serene sage]

how do you not know my brother

[thick laurel]

Because I live in the Europe but I set my shit to english countries because I only speak english

So idk if it picked the closest server (EU) or NA

[cyan anchor]

i hate how reblessing or changing perks locks other shiz

im tryna make a back stab knife but all i get is bleed and stamina knives

[trail iris]

I just named my vet ciaphus caine

Idk why

[vast flame]

Well, atleast we know youre the hero of the imperium

and a coward

[spark hamlet]

All my rejects have default names >_>

[vast flame]

If you have a default name, i will break your knees

be original

been in matches with two or three havelochs

anguish aside, the braced MK VIII is a dynamite

[trail iris]

My ogryn is just straight up called blender

My zealot is called Jimmrick (but that's the name I default too when I don't know what to name something)

And I can't remember what my psyker is called because I haven't touched them since I got the game

[vast flame]

I named my Ogryn Buford-Blue (aka Bubba), Flintlock my Vet, King-Gizzard my Psyker and Shamus my Zealot

[mortal horizon]

if you guys had to pick the meta vet talent build, what would it be? (im assuming plasma and ps6 most likely)

[trail iris]

I'm personally running stealth vet with plasma gun and krak grenades

I wouldn't call it meta but its really fun

[vast flame]

Plasma and Krak are the way

i use targetting and plasma

i kept a streak going for like 5 mins, taking scalps with the plaz

[brisk umbra]

PS6+Revolver/Plasma/Laspistol+Shout+Krak*+Survivalist*+Anything

[serene sage]

PS6 + Revolver

Plasma is too slow imo

[brisk umbra]

Eh, not that much slower to there really be a difference

Personally i prefer the revolver too, but i feel like plasma is prety much at the same level

[wanton dawn]

Ps6+revolver. Krak for monstro, frags otherwise. Plasma for no ammo maelstrom

Survivalist+shout

[trim steppe]

Difference is: with Revolver, PS is your main weapon; with plasma, plasma is your main weapon. You dont need quickdraw on the plasma cuz its already out

[unique sorrel]

idk about meta and primarily use automatic weapons, but these are the nodes i think are the strongest: longshot and close order are both worth taking, shout ofc, iron will, and then onslaught, desperado, trench fighter

[trim steppe]

I almost never take desperado or trench fighter cuz I'm too deep in the middle tree

[heavy parcel]

shovel + kantrael is gud ? Going executioner's stance btw ..

[wanton dawn]

Middle first 5 big node would also be meta