veteran-class

[kind scarab]

Totally

[unkempt lagoon]

patch 14 didnt kill any mods

[mystic escarp]

The what

[topaz lance]

Different does not mean automatically better.

[slow spade]

na they meant 333%

[autumn perch]

[tight dragon]

this is tho

[kind scarab]

See, I don't think that makes sense

[hearty panther]

no its 230% crit chance after 10 kills

[wanton dawn]

We are gonna crit twice per bullet

[slow spade]

as I keep saying, Revolver should one shot kill bosses

[hearty panther]

you fire off a singularity that destroys all of atoma

[slow spade]

Fatshark agrees

[wanton dawn]

Crit dmg% is now meta

[kind scarab]

Cause it stacks up to a max of 10 stacks. Tf are you going to be doing with 330% crit?

[slow spade]

your best

[hearty panther]

kill

[kind scarab]

This ain't warframe

We ain't red critting

[wanton dawn]

Crit obviously

[topaz lance]

Revolver should one shot kill Melk

[autumn perch]

Kill God

[slow spade]

??? yes it is

[kind scarab]

Aight

I have one gripe around the revolver.

Revolvers really FEEL like they should have 6 rounds in them, not 5.

[slow spade]

"I got you fam" Weapon Specialist now buffs crit damage

[wanton dawn]

I love to shoot my revolver once and have 5 gunners in my kill feed

[junior needle]

Rip, 25% ammo is still on the bottom of the left tree

Hopes and aspirations dashed

[willow badger]

there's a mod that will read out sound cues into the log

like flamer spawned or whatever

[slow spade]

Ogryn still the dakka class of Darktide now

[topaz lance]

Yeah that one sucks

[unkempt lagoon]

revolvers FEEL like they should have a speedloader in the year 41k+

[slow spade]

the STC for speedloaders was lost

[hearty panther]

No confirmation that Survivalist is binned yet

[unkempt lagoon]

or whatever year pls dont persecute

[slow spade]

1% -> 10%

fixed

[robust mirage]

i just want to be able to wield a melee and pistol at the same time 😦

[sterile garnet]

most have 6 irl

[lilac sonnet]

i expect revolver nerfs . they not going to let that beasty remain as good as it is.

[slow spade]

100 cleave revolver

done

[midnight patrol]

Shoot a crusher and watch it immediately turn into pure energy from your anti matter bullet

[kind scarab]

Then why's the most common nickname for them six-shooters, and not five-shooters?

[mystic escarp]

That target thing tho is looks interesting

[sterile garnet]

no

[kind scarab]

[sterile garnet]

it's not because it's snub nose, it's due to frame size

[wanton dawn]

What is the revolver caliber though ?

[slow spade]

The Imperial Tithe demands all revolvers sacrifice 1 chamber for the Emperor

[unkempt lagoon]

the cleave on revolver is so funny, ogryn doing his damndest to grief my sightlines cant do shit

[sterile garnet]

i carry 2 snub nose revolvers for work

[slow spade]

23mm

[sterile garnet]

one is 6 shots (on my hip) one is 5 shots (in my pocket)

.38 special

[kind scarab]

The one we save, is for shooting ourselves in case of corruption

[midnight patrol]

Considering our revolver is a literal handcannon. It's probably like those 5 round .509 S&W revolvers

[kind scarab]

Underbarrel purification round

[hearty panther]

Yea well we aren't hunting Bison or whatever you do Mankar ok

Stupid sexy cowboy man

[slow spade]

brb using .38 special on titans

[midnight patrol]

. 500 has only 5 rounds a cylinder

[slow spade]

going to bag me a Feral titan UwU

[sterile garnet]

i am ATM tech/armored car cash transport

i load money into ATMs and pick up/delviery cash to/from commerical businesses

[topaz lance]

Uhm it needs a buff

[hearty panther]

I thought you lived in a lean to or something

[slow spade]

Revolver needs more ammo

60 base ammo -> 600

[sterile garnet]

i have before

and i want to

(Living in a lean-to)

[slow spade]

any balance can be solved with a 0 UwU

[kind scarab]

You know what revolver definitely doesn't need?

[midnight patrol]

With Vet 25% more ammo you get 62 rounds

[lilac sonnet]

[topaz lance]

make it 800 to be sure

[hearty panther]

Damn we got song lyrics going

[midnight patrol]

Or was it 64 I can't recall.

[kind scarab]

OH WAIT

[slow spade]

done, brb going to Fatshark

[kind scarab]

I have a terrible, terrible idea.

[wanton dawn]

Big ammo

[midnight patrol]

.500 S&W vibes

[kind scarab]

What if shocktrooper has been removed, and the new capstone in the bottom left, gives us one round back in our weapon per headshot kill

[midnight patrol]

Looks as thick as 7.62x51

[kind scarab]

Revolver becomes instantly the best weapon

[slow spade]

trust me I'm a fairy

[hearty panther]

Maybe one of the side nodes gives us a big swingin' dick

[kind scarab]

We already have that

We're veterans

[slow spade]

expanded weapon mods for that

[hearty panther]

oh y-you do?

[kind scarab]

You don't?

[hearty panther]

;_;

[kind scarab]

Hadron really played you

[hearty panther]

So these keystones huh

[kind scarab]

[slow spade]

I wonder how much the keystone upgrades change them

[kind scarab]

Knowing FS

[slow spade]

kind of like how VoC is shit unless you get the left upgrade

[wanton dawn]

weapon specialist seems to have a LOT of stuff going on

[kind scarab]

They'll give you stuff like "longer duration of running without losing stacks"

[hearty panther]

That's what I wanna know

[kind scarab]

"Stacks cap at 10 instead of 5 now"

[hearty panther]

Most of the naked keystones are mid on all the classes

[slow spade]

"fuck it. One of the upgrades removes the stack limit"

[kind scarab]

"Headshots that don't kill give double stacks"

[midnight patrol]

Giant swinging girldeek?

[wanton dawn]

Oh man, 3 exact lvl 30 for nurgle blessed monstro. What could go wrong

[crude wind]

gonna be jumping on an impromptu stream breaking down this trailer

that came out of nowhere

[hearty panther]

I want forbidden knowledge

[wanton dawn]

false alarm

[ruby totem]

Oh new keystones get teased or smthn?

[midnight patrol]

I hope ot doesn't take like. Two weeks from now though

My hype is vibin

[slow spade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_53jXBsnL4k&ab_channel=Fatshark

[kind scarab]

Like, you can see somewhat what's intended in that image

[ruby totem]

neat! thanks

[slow spade]

next week UwU

[valid bluff]

I feel like the funniest part of the tagging node, is that stuff I tag tends to not take much damage to kill

[kind scarab]

The rightmost extra node will be giving us toughness or toughness DR

[valid bluff]

Its the snipers and trappers and bombers I'm tagging

[slow spade]

reserve judgement until we see the upgrade because VoC is shit unless upgraded

[ruby totem]

VoC?

[slow spade]

I usually tag ragers so people can see them in hordes

[slow spade]

Voice of Command

[kind scarab]

Shout

[fast heart]

This looks... useless?

[slow spade]

wait till we see upgrades

[ruby totem]

thx

[plush oracle]

I think we should see upgrades

[slow spade]

a lot of the keystones are shit until upgraded

[plush oracle]

Yea

[fast heart]

I want to play vermintide 2 but I don't want to install 100gb

[plush oracle]

Lol

[soft solstice]

30% damage for the team against a special does sound good, and I imagine the nodes will have stuff to make it more useful on weaker stuff, like AOE suppression around the target on death, or maybe like toughness resistance for the team for a few seconds after killing them

[gusty sonnet]

Idk man +30% DPS vs boss for the whole team looking spicy

[fast heart]

Taking it just for boss sounds not very good

[soft solstice]

and it only takes 3 seconds to gain a stack, which is decently quick

[slow spade]

"remove ping limit"

[gusty sonnet]

At least it's funny

[slow spade]

left mouse ping time UwU

[hearty panther]

Think bosses

[zinc hare]

yeah thatd be good for my helbore build

[fast heart]

Also i'm pretty sure they added damage cap on assassination bosses

at least i did not notice anyone oneshotting bosses after balance adjustments

[slow spade]

only for void shield

[soft solstice]

30% damage is nice against ogryn enemies, and for weaker stuff like mutants or ragers, it'll probably be enough to reach certain damage thresholds on guns

[slow spade]

you can just obliterate the boss once the shield is gone

[soft solstice]

30% damage on upgraded kraks sounds killer for bosses

[fast heart]

You can oneshot reapers and bulwarks with just headshots

[slow spade]

the Ogryn damage node isn't there in the image

so we'll have to see

[lucid hinge]

Probably been lumped in

[topaz lance]

What weapons do you think are best to use with the left keystone?

[fast heart]

the only problem is crushers which with enough rending can be oneshoted too

[soft solstice]

not everyone uses only plasma/revolver, and all talents shouldn't be balanced around 1 specific weapon

[stuck bridge]

Guys the vet tree already capped with 30% damage nodes. This isn't a buff it's a move around lol

[gusty sonnet]

If ogryn damage node disappears, then so does my veteran gaming carreer

[zinc hare]

i am excited to see what the melee keystone is

[fast heart]

Infantry autoguns shred crushers too

[slow spade]

"+330% crit bonus"

working as intended

[soft solstice]

melee keystone is a buffed version of agile engagement

[stuck bridge]

Wither a typo or stacks multiplicatevely

[slow spade]

I like to think its intentionasl

[fast heart]

also good luck using it with specialists modifiers

[slow spade]

"fuck it crits for everyone"

[fast heart]

when 10 crushers pull up from the nearest corner

[zinc hare]

i hope not >:( i want to stab things

[fast heart]

you'll get 1 but there's 9 more

[slow spade]

30% attack speed if this talent stays the same

going to be "interesting" to see devil claws and power swords

[zinc hare]

that would be fun as heck

[kind scarab]

I've broken down the side nodes based off what their icons are

Since FS are never inspiring with their icons

Theres only one I have no fucking clue what it does

[midnight patrol]

I hope we can fill up all the nodes in these keystone if they're left open like that

[kind scarab]

Couldn't tell ya honestly

But based off the design of the icons, and what they seem to do, it would indicate they're something we can select multiple of

Esp with the taxes that got removed from the builds

Except for the rightmost tree

That feels like a "pick a side" sorta deal

[ionic oyster]

can't wait to use this with the lucius/laz pistol

[kind scarab]

Cause if you note, most of these capstone trees have on average 4 nodes

So I'm inclined to believe they'll want you to pick the base node + 3

Like really, wtf is this node supposed to be

A guy with a big fucking ball on his head?

It's clearly under the ranged branch of that tree, so more than likely ranged related.

[gusty sonnet]

Elvis presley cosplay passive

[kind scarab]

And the arrows denote that it's clearly more of something.

[ionic hull]

you leave Sargent Pompadour alone

[fast heart]

A reminder

[kind scarab]

Unlike the shitty weapons, the skill trees all follow a pretty streamlined system so they don't fuck shit up

[fast heart]

We'll see if your predictions are true

[shell dust]

]

[topaz lance]

It's someone with a huuuge quiff

[slow spade]

stares at Grenade Tinkerer and Exhilerating Takedown

[kind scarab]

There's plenty that have "creative direction"

[slow spade]

:p

[kind scarab]

But for the ones that modify things, they're mostly straight forward

[queen fox]

should have said 'this weapon is physically impaired with no stamina or endurance'

[acoustic wyvern]

ah yes, the crippler

[fast heart]

I took 4 painkillers but my head still hurts

[slow spade]

remove head -> head no longer can cause problems

[queen fox]

yeah, its rabies
you're gonna die

[slow spade]

therefore problem solved

[autumn perch]

Embryo passive

[undone grove]

why does ranged specialist stack 10 times when it gives 33% crit chance per stack, that's silly levels of overkill isn't it?

[kind scarab]

Like, look at all these. All the things that give toughness have a shield, all things that give increased damage have OHHHHH

The one I couldn't identify is a ranged damage buff

[glacial peak]

hey guys... why is demo team here

[autumn perch]

Does he know

[acoustic wyvern]

can't survive without grenade

[next spade]

this is bad right? seems like you need to go completely out of combat for it to refresh

[kind scarab]

Actually, this poses a bit of an issue

[ruby totem]

that's obviously Elvis with a pomp singing on stage

[kind scarab]

Now that I've thought about it more

[ruby totem]

damnit someone said it already

[pale loom]

What we gonna do with 330 crit chance

[hearty panther]

It reactivates in the stated time

[queen fox]

does it refresh if you swap to ranged?

[glacial peak]

oh has everyone pointed it out already?

[gusty sonnet]

I already made the joke 😠

[next spade]

no it dosnt reactivate

if you keep attacking

[undone grove]

maybe we're getting critical crits

[kind scarab]

We are losing access to these three middle nodes

[next spade]

even if you wait, you need to get really out of combat

[undone grove]

it's warframe time

[kind scarab]

Cause they're right after the specialisation for our ultimate

[honest robin]

it's 59 gb

[next spade]

ok no you need to not hit for 3.5 seconds

[queen fox]

are the red ones mutually exclusive?

[next spade]

yeah that seems pretty bad

[ruby totem]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-steal-jojo-jojo-part4-jojos-bizarre-adventure-diamond-is-unbreakable-gif-18060937

[kind scarab]

Those are out ultimates

[fast heart]

105 after installing

[solid talon]

Wait did we get a peek at the skill tree? Or is this all speculation?

[kind scarab]

And they've been boiled down to just one node each

[kind scarab]

Yes we did

[kind scarab]

Some is speculation, other parts are just facts

[solid talon]

Thanks gus. You king

[kind scarab]

Like the fact we're losing three nodes to the middle tree.

[honest robin]

huh?

[glacial peak]

superiority complex bros...

[solid talon]

👑

[queen fox]

...no? they are the final skills in each tree, something that buffs our ulti. its not the ulti itself

[ruby totem]

I want the perk where my character calls out the sigma minorises and traxis sevens out 3x as much

[cosmic aurora]

its in the tweets section of this discord, latest video

[topaz lance]

Hm yeah mayb the red nodes are not exclusive?

[fast heart]

Wait, part 1 is just a map and keystones for vet?

[glacial peak]

yeah basically

[fast heart]

bruh

[kind scarab]

I sure hope that's the case, cause before they designed the tree so we could only ever reach one of those. And the way I see it, they prolly locked our ability to progress past more than one of those

[cosmic aurora]

thats all theyve shown as of right now

[honest robin]

the game wa recompiled to 59

[forest blaze]

Patch out?

[glacial peak]

there is a part 2 tho at some point

[iron marten]

I’ll take it. Finally a new map

[kind scarab]

Sneak peak of the tree is out

[topaz lance]

Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how this works

[forest blaze]

Cool I haven’t seen it for some reason

[queen fox]

maybe? do other trees do that? from what i remember, you aren't locked out below the purple keystone talents.

[stuck bridge]

I was hoping vet would get a grenade focused keystone

[topaz lance]

I am hoping for the double barrel shotgun in part 2

[lean light]

Meltagun when

[hearty panther]

I still like Ascension Riser tbh but yah not amazing

[topaz lance]

That would have been cool

[idle dirge]

Not the entire tree

[ruby totem]

So what chaos demon do we think we're gonna fight at the carnival

[kind scarab]

Physically? No. But our tree was designed so you always fall short on points so you can't get more than one

They may have changed it now.

[fast heart]

Shouldn't anniversary be on round dates tho?

[serene pagoda]

anyone knows how these two blessings interacts with each other?

[dusty ferry]

He died quite dramatically

[pale loom]

They gotta change something about the tree itself too right? So we can actually get to the bottom and have some leftover points

[idle dirge]

I see way less tax nodes

[serene pagoda]

i noticed that infernus refreshes dumdum

[woeful junco]

lol what

[fast heart]

wha? when

[kind scarab]

Yeah nah, ignore that

[queen fox]

i wouldn't worry too much about it tbh. other trees don't lockout from branches like that. busy waiting through loading screens to confirm, but im like 99% sure of it

[woeful junco]

those red nodes are in the tree rn. keystones were added below them.

[mystic escarp]

he's high on some sick Nurgle acid

[junior needle]

DOT's appear to hit, thus stacking hit based talents/blessings such as onslaught

[fast heart]

that's more of slaanesh stuff

[kind scarab]

I misread the tree earlier

[iron marten]

As long as you have the weapon equipped, any damage source will proc dumdum, even bleed from nades

[woeful junco]

keystones are always the last nodes in the tree, there's nothing below them that you get locked out of

[ruby totem]

we all have our moments

[honest robin]

when necromancer sienna came out

[topaz lance]

We ca already see some small nodes being removed in the screens, but I hope the end result will look closer to the Zealot tree than what we have now

[woeful junco]

you just can't take more than one keystone at a time

[serene pagoda]

does dumdum affects those st ats too or nyet?

[hearty panther]

Ye

[iron marten]

if you’re close yeah

[queen fox]

@kind scarab dw about it, you can take multiple red talents in zealot tree. don't see why they'd lock us out only on vet

[junior needle]

dumdum is currently bugged and the damage applies at longer ranges than it should, but decreasing over distance

[hearty panther]

Dumdum is bugged and gifts its damage at all ranges currently

[iron marten]

Oh yeah right

[kind scarab]

That makes sense actually. I genuinely forget we can do that on zealot, despite it being my second most played class

[hearty panther]

Normally close range should be 8m

[iron marten]

Not a FatShark patch without a random bug

[idle dirge]

I think that currently they lock eachother out or something but I doubt they will with the update

[kind scarab]

Dumdum gifts stacks at any range, the damage is only applied at close range I believe

[junior needle]

It visually displays at 7m max for me when I test it in the psyk for some reason, 8m close range stuff that's working properly won't work

[kind scarab]

If what I was told was correct

[urban steppe]

So what you guys think about new skills ?

looks interesting

[serene sage]

the right side might include swap speed

[junior needle]

I think the left and middle SUCK

[serene sage]

which is really good for various weapons

that's what im hyuped about

[kind scarab]

I believe so yes

[forest blaze]

I’m honestly surprised a carnival is showing up. I doubt FS is making Slaanesh daemons

[broken spade]

I'm not too impressed with the left and middle, but i'd need to see the modifier nodes to be sure

[autumn perch]

Brb guys can you watch my Choccy milk pls

[pale loom]

Right looks v good but 33% is probably a mistake right?

[finite imp]

Thank you man

[serene sage]

if they move low profile to the right

[unkempt lagoon]

middle is like fine as support veteran but the right one is so much more fun lmao

[serene sage]

that node might be really good

[queen fox]

100% ranged crit chance after 3 melee kills is wild and will make surgical near obsolete on revolver

[urban steppe]

there will be i think because we dont know other small skills down there which is 4 , 3 and 5 of them

[kind scarab]

I think it's a typo and actually 3%

[pale loom]

Middle looks like a nice tool depends on the other nodes bellow it

[serene sage]

there is the middle lower one on the right

[pale loom]

That makes a lot more sense

[serene sage]

the symbol highly suggests swap speed

[idle dirge]

A boss taking +30% damage from everyone doesn’t sound bad

[broken spade]

having the extra elite damage underneath the ammo increase node makes it near mandatory to path there unless they got nerfed or something

[kind scarab]

Yeah, cause it'd be 10 stacks, up to 30% crit

[pale loom]

Anyway looking good for revolver with the rending on crit blessing

[kind scarab]

Cause wtf you doing with 330% crit

[junior needle]

I think it sucks as in the gameplay sucks

[serene sage]

that must be a typo

[idle dirge]

Fair

[serene sage]

no way one kill gives you 33% crit chance

[undone grove]

problem with the spotting thing is are you actually going to AVOID spotting just to save the boost?

[junior needle]

That's useful for support vet, I just think it's extremely boring

[broken spade]

imagine if the tagging buff doesn't work if someone else tags it first

[kind scarab]

Just spot something else, ez

[serene sage]

10 kills for 33% sounsd a lot more correct

[broken spade]

and you just get blocked out of using your keystone

[kind scarab]

That is 1000% gonna be the case

[glacial garnet]

how do i play long range, without getting deleted by the director?

[topaz lance]

Nurgle is also associated with carnivals

[kind scarab]

You don't

[glacial garnet]

but thats my entire build....

[broken spade]

aside from bosses being a good usecase, most of what i tag are specials that die in one hit anyways

[kind scarab]

Not for long

[iron marten]

Simple solution to that is all 4 plays that vet keystone

[urban steppe]

now we know how to build crit veteran , start from left finishing on right

[autumn perch]

Hey guys I’m back has anyone seen my Choccy milk

[undone grove]

does slaanesh microdose nurgle diseases just to experience them

[broken spade]

but then 3 vets basically don't get a keystone

[unkempt lagoon]

ated it

[serene sage]

the ogryn drank it all

[junior needle]

It's a figurative carnival, that's the nickname for the red light district

[autumn perch]

[pale loom]

You guys think its more damage from all sources right? Like god whc from v2

[kind scarab]

Yes

[serene sage]

#ogryn-class come here and yell them instead

[autumn perch]

Guys wtf I asked you to watch it

[wanton dawn]

It is even worse with nurgle invovled

[unkempt lagoon]

watched it get drink

[autumn perch]

[kind scarab]

Same, I saw someone drink it

[serene sage]

new vet talents distracted all the vets

[halcyon summit]

yo

[kind scarab]

It was esquire, he did it

[autumn perch]

Why bro

[halcyon summit]

we talking about the superior commissar build in here

[pale dome]

What is the best power sword for a veteran?

[iron marten]

Hoping it’s all damage sources and not just you, otherwise it’s a you snooze you lose situation

[serene sage]

you need to puke out case's choccy milk right now

[halcyon summit]

Pause

[broken spade]

it probably is
but i mean if 4 vets pick the keystone and only 1 person gets to tag the boss, the other 3 didn't really need to take the keystone at all

[autumn perch]

Pls dude it was the last Choccy milk

[broken spade]

they just wasted their point

[wanton dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/mileena-mk1-baddie-mileena-is-predator-gif-9256219595647737396

[serene sage]

themetically correct, a team doesn't need 4 squad leaders

[iron marten]

Truey

[serene sage]

that's dumb

[broken spade]

anyways, interesting how left keystone doesn't mention a stack cap

there probably is one and fatshark just decided to fatshark the description

wondering what it would be

[robust mirage]

i got supper lucky i feel

[elder vessel]

supper

[serene sage]

the right keystone is also likely incorrect

no way one kill gives you 33% crit chance

stack to 330% lmao

[kind scarab]

^

[iron marten]

Making extra sure you crit

[kind scarab]

3% per stack

[serene sage]

more like 3.3%

[kind scarab]

Up to 30%

[dark anchor]

Thats hot

[robust mirage]

a crit on top of your crit

[gusty sonnet]

Maybe its multiplicative of the base crit chance?

[kind scarab]

Nah, they don't do that

[broken spade]

swing at a crowd of poxwalkers and guarantee crits for 5 seconds

[serene sage]

well that's just op as fuck

[kind scarab]

It's definitely just 3% up to 30%

and someone fatfingered the 3 too much

[serene sage]

yeah

either 3% or 3.3%

[robust mirage]

nonono let me cope

i need my 330% crit chanse

[serene sage]

okay cope

[kind scarab]

Cope all you want, it ain't happening

And if it does, FS is really tripping balls

[topaz lance]

Uhm, actually it's 333% per stack

ok?

[broken spade]

How would ranged attack speed interact with plasma gun anyways?

[iron marten]

Would’ve laughed so hard if it was +330% crit damage

[kind scarab]

1shot boss with the revolver build

[serene sage]

somehowk not the first time
member Assail? I memeber

[kind scarab]

[serene sage]

the technology is finally here

[broken spade]

I assume it wouldn't charge faster so i doubt aspd would do much for plasma

unless it does, and then nerfs your damage lol

[kind scarab]

Yeah not useful

[serene sage]

anyway im so ready for swap speed

Bolter melee will be so fuking good

[kind scarab]

I already broken down what I think each node will do

[iron marten]

Charge faster so people can overheat their plasma faster to inevitably die

[gusty sonnet]

Also guys, SURELY they'll rework fire team, right?

[kind scarab]

It honestly makes sense given what they've got

[broken spade]

i feel like you picked the worst text color for that

[kind scarab]

I will more than likely be running right-side tree for the movespeed buff

Like a Gremlin

[iron marten]

FatShark fixing bugs in a timely manner is lol

[kind scarab]

Yes, it was much better while I was zoomed in

[iron marten]

Wasn’t the plasma charge rate bug reported months ago?

[gusty sonnet]

Honestly right node is legit and better than ppl give it credit for

But not on the level of ammo aura

[iron marten]

Right side of the tree looks fun for my laspistol

[junior needle]

They took like 6 months to fix the rashad body priority

[south garnet]

lol what are they smoking at FS

[kind scarab]

I fixed it for you

[iron marten]

Kek

[kind scarab]

I made it all pink for you @broken spade

[broken spade]

yeah that's better

[iron marten]

He chose the mococo colour

[dusk jacinth]

dis sounds pretty crazy

[worthy escarp]

These two seem the strongest by far. The other one (about to post) seems really bad. Having to stand still? in Darktide? Yeah good luck

[kind scarab]

You already stand still to aim and shoot with surgical

And deadshot

[dusk jacinth]

AYYYYYYYYY

[kind scarab]

You'll be fine

[dusk jacinth]

WITCH HUNTERS PASSIVE

fucking finally

[worthy escarp]

I disagree

[gusty sonnet]

Marksman focus is VId opportunity to shine? :copium:

[iron marten]

Left side looks fine for Autogun users, provided they can aim for the head while moving

[dusk jacinth]

insane to me that vet doesnt just have a marking passive

[broken spade]

I move and dodge while aiming for surgical though

[worthy escarp]

I like the 'Focus Target' one a lot and the 'Weapon Specialist' will be very powerful with quick-drawing pistol builds over any rifles

[kind scarab]

it's a whole ass 3 seconds per headshot kill to move around and sprint and do what you want

[south garnet]

This would be a little better if you actually gained stacks with hits. As-is though you just "don't lose" them, so unless they stack at like 0.2 seconds apiece or something...

[kind scarab]

If you ain't getting kills that quickly on any difficulty, you prolly can't even keep your ex stance up

[broken spade]

yeah i'm not standing still for 3 whole seconds

[kind scarab]

and should prolly play sedition

[kind scarab]

It's not about HOLDING STILL for 3 seconds

[south garnet]

oh wait you do gain stacks

[kind scarab]

It's a window for being able to move without losing stacks

[worthy escarp]

Bit toxic but alright

[south garnet]

that's not that bad but it's not as good as the others

[worthy escarp]

Agreed

[broken spade]

oh you mean the grace period being 3 seconds

[kind scarab]

Yes

[brisk umbra]

Oh okay, it seemed they changed all the useless grey points into normal talents, and slapped these at the bottom

[broken spade]

yeah idk, i'll have to see what the modifier nodes are to really care

the buff it gives doesn't really impress me

[south garnet]

I wonder how many stacks you can have

[broken spade]

but idk how much it stacks to

[south garnet]

of marksman focus

[dusk jacinth]

is the vet thing new or juist a preview

[kind scarab]

Left tree is more than likely better than the middle tree with the extra nodes. Since they will hands down give you more time and movement speed between kills you need to get.

[south garnet]

Could be a game changer for some weapons

[kind scarab]

So I ain't too worried

[iron marten]

I do hope these changes are coming at Nov 17 and not Nov 30!

[dusk jacinth]

whens the bundle coming out

[south garnet]

that'd make sense

[broken spade]

reload and finesse damage seems to be catering to revolver

[pale loom]

right one looks awesome it's like the one bounty hunter had in v2

[kind scarab]

I'd argue it's more for things like plasma gun tbh

Revolver has good reload with just one of the two reload nodes at the top of the tree

[broken spade]

i don't really care that much about reload speed on plasma
the thing has enough shots

[keen sleet]

Agreed

[broken spade]

sure it's annoying to reload when it does come up, but there's plenty of time between

[kind scarab]

I don't care a lot on plasma, but I feel it'd be better suited for plasma.

Esp since you'll be cleaving through tons of people in the crowds and maxing out your stacks in a few shots.

[gusty sonnet]

What if they deleted the top reload nodes?

[kind scarab]

It would probably end up giving you enough reload speed to effectively vent your whole bar and reload faster than just pure venting

[kind scarab]

No

Bad

Say syke rn

1% reload per stack ain't enough

[iron marten]

I’ll accept it if they move confirmed kill near the top

[topaz lance]

Left keystone seems to be good with headhunter autoguns I'm thinking.

[iron marten]

Even infantry autoguns

[topaz lance]

true

[kind scarab]

Anything you can land a headshot, or get a HS kill with honestly.

[iron marten]

Simply just aim head height and spray-n-pray

[kind scarab]

Esp high crit weapons

Laspistol go brr

[iron marten]

Thinking more of the right tree for laspistol for me

I play really aggressively with a laspistol

[topaz lance]

Yeah but I don't see it being super usefull for say revolver or bolter

[kind scarab]

Boss damage

[iron marten]

But you need weakspot kills to get a stack

[topaz lance]

Wait, there'S no limit on the stacks is there? 😄

[kind scarab]

There's usually stuff around before a boss shows up to be fair

[broken spade]

they probably just forgot to write the stack limit

[kind scarab]

I'm sure you can land a few headshot kills before wailing on the boss

[broken spade]

fatshark descriptions are wrong just as often as they're right

[iron marten]

Perhaps, I wouldn’t bet on it though lol

[worthy escarp]

No idea, but I do wonder does getting Staggered by an enemy hit count as 'moving'?

If so Damnation is going to be fun when that random poxwalker comes up to slap yo booty

[broken spade]

I assume it counts losing stacks the same way as zealots gain momentum stacks

it probably gets lost at the same rate

[glacial peak]

By the wording it looks like it looking for inputs from the player

[worthy escarp]

Hopefully

[kind scarab]

Moving makes ya lose stacks, if you move without having gotten a headshot/kill

[glacial peak]

I doubt it because it leaves out dodges

[worthy escarp]

Waiting for the ever Friendly Mutie to YEET me out of a bombers firebomb and let me blow his tiny skull out of his body

[glacial peak]

Anyways weapons specialist my beloved

[broken spade]

Nah i just mean the moving part is probably reusing the same code to check if you're moving

[crude wind]

Left looks good with accurate guns, love that

[broken spade]

like it'll probably tick at the same rate

[worthy escarp]

I'm liking the target marking, as that's going to make bosses easier to kill

[crude wind]

Middle is going to be good for Big Game Hunters and as a way to get extra boss damage

although I don't love that you are limited to how much you can ping

Right looks the most interesting to me

Strong as well

[worthy escarp]

Ironically I always play Voice of Command as a melee main class with a heavy weapon (Plasma, bolter)

Just so I don't eat ammo

[crude wind]

that's how I play it as well

bolter/plasma VoC is super fun

[glacial peak]

Idk man the mark seems kinda wack on principal

[broken spade]

yeah i don't like the idea of avoiding pinging that sniper so i can get more dps on the crusher instead

[crude wind]

that's my concern

[worthy escarp]

How? It's so easy to do as long as you can see them

[crude wind]

you are in a hard place between choosing to ping threats or keeping damage buff up

[worthy escarp]

Wait is there a damage buff if you're not marking?

[broken spade]

marking to deal damage is fine.
what bothers me is marketing making you lose stacks and lowering the damage of your next mark.

[crude wind]

One has to wonder if there are mechanics that will interact with what happens when the pinged target dies

[glacial peak]

Ok what happens when there’s 5 bulwarks in front of what ever real treat is in behind of them

[kind scarab]

Probably not, if what I assume the modifiers are is what we actually get

[worthy escarp]

Yeah that's one question as it makes no sense how you build stacks, at least to me

[crude wind]

i believe that's called a Truffle Shuffle

[kind scarab]

Based on the design of the modifier icons, that doesn't seem to be the case

[crude wind]

what do you assume the modifiers are? Curious

[broken spade]

your mark ramps up in damage stacks over time and resets back to 1 stack after you mark something.
If you keep marking, all your targets will only have 1 stack.

[glacial peak]

15 seconds is a long time for 30% damage on a single target

[worthy escarp]

Yeah that's just a problem you have to deal with, like...Idk what you want me to say about a situational moment

Not every game or play has to be perfect 😆

[crude wind]

totally agree, I think it would be better if it was less damage per stack but faster stacking

[broken spade]

the thing is, having a bunch of elites is a pretty common situation

[ebon geyser]

so this is what I've been using while I've been leveling my 2nd veteran, what's a good plasmagun look like?

[crude wind]

not bad guesses

[worthy escarp]

You'll probably get rid of it at a later level, but it's alright

[kind scarab]

The design of most of the icons is reused for a lot stuff between the different classes

So that's what I based the guesses on

[ebon geyser]

oh ill absolutely chuck this once I hit 30 and can scrape up a 350+ base, but

[crude wind]

i can tell you exactly. 80/80 damage/stop, exactly 73% charge speed, 70+ ammo and 65+ thermal

perks, Unarmoured and Elties

[low oar]

I'm more interested in how the tree is reorganized tbh

Vet just has too much shit just spread out

[glacial peak]

Hear me out got a crazy idea what if we just could get a static amount damage (let’s say 20%) on anything we pinged

[low oar]

-100% ammo Regen is too big of a malus

[topaz lance]

looks at the +25% ammo node

[low oar]

Also confirmed kill

[ebon geyser]

honestly though

[brisk sapphire]

no

it isnt

[gusty sonnet]

But then the optimal play is to make an AHK script that spam the mark key for you

[brisk sapphire]

bottom middle and right tree too good

[pliant crown]

is Make Every Shot Count bugged

[dusk jacinth]

the extended coustimzation mod is da best mod ever made

[south spindle]

Shotguns, thats about it

[dusk jacinth]

actually made a fucking shank

[ebon geyser]

JUST SWAP ALWAYS PREPARED AND THE +10% RENDING

[glacial peak]

Not if you lose the buff when the enemy stopped being pinged

[brave verge]

if I salvage t3 headhunter from an autogun, will I have it on my accatran lasgun? Or I need to find a lasgun with headhunter

[ebon geyser]

AND IT'S PERFECT

[brisk sapphire]

maybe dip into deadshot if revolver or helbore or whatever

[ebon geyser]

NO REWORK NECESSARY

[crude wind]

maybe that will be one of the nodes? 🤷‍♂️

[pliant crown]

spent about 3 minutes painstakingly emptying my shotgun without missing and then extracting

[dusk jacinth]

this is me beatin stick

[pliant crown]

and no penance completion

[ebon geyser]

doesn't it only work on lasguns

[midnight mortar]

No it works on all weapons.

[crude wind]

bolter and plasma and thats about it

but hilariously

[kind scarab]

I'd argue that on recon lasgun, it lets you go the whole mission without picking up ammo if you have survivalist and only go after elites/disablers

[gusty sonnet]

But it would still be perma +20% just for yourself for anything you aim at

[crude wind]

you often don't go that route for those guns

so, shurg

[pliant crown]

this has been like my 10th try its just agony

[brave verge]

I think the individual pellets count, which might be why it failed

[dusk jacinth]

HOLY SHIT

[brave verge]

try single shot weapons like plasma or revolver

[safe quiver]

has anyone encaunterd a bug that when u switch weapons they go invisible ?

[glacial peak]

You see the joke is witch hunter captain had this as a base part of his kit and was very good for hitting break point while not being op

[brave verge]

I did it on plasma recently, took me about 4 tries

[gusty sonnet]

Didnt WHC mains end up binding ping to M1 though

[crude wind]

tbf though, different game

currently the Darktide player character

iS OP as hell

i feel like a fucking space marine atm

(until a net hits me)

[glacial peak]

Not the good ones the buff only was ever applied to one enemy (out side of the ult application talent no one used)

[crude wind]

it does

LAS PISTOL AND DUELING SWORD FAM RISE UP

[glacial peak]

Because of crit head shot insta kills and the second best weapon arsenal in the game not because of 20% damage against a pinged enemy

[fathom wedge]

Make Every SHot Count is still fucked isn't it.

[brave verge]

hopefully vet can get dueling sword, psyker can get a force axe or something as compensation

[glacial peak]

The class that can implicitly be a commissar should really get the dueling sword

[neon briar]

damn guess instant reload is staying an ogryn exclusive then?

[south spindle]

Im also sad Psyker dont get shotguns

[neon briar]

they're scared of 30 round bolter 😔

[hearty panther]

https://clips.twitch.tv/AmericanProudPartridgeThisIsSparta-CSK-_fd4soOqZy6X

Gunker so good

[keen sleet]

They used to but not anymore :(

I want my Savant with a lawbringer

[glacial peak]

Thank you for using the correct name

[south spindle]

Innit, is big sad that got changed

[neon briar]

i have vague memories of getting shotguns on my psyker near release

didnt realize they took it away

what happened to psykers that already had shotguns?

[glacial peak]

A lot of the exclusive weapons make no sense

[neon briar]

just deleted from your inventory?

[glacial peak]

Probably

[keen sleet]

I get it with how they don’t want every human class to be the same in weapon selection but I agree

[broken spade]

yeah i remember seeing early footage of psykers with shotguns

but by pre-order beta, psykers could no longer get them

[glacial peak]

No shotguns on psyker is dumb recon las being vet only is dumb there’s no reason every class doesn’t have access to dueling sword

[keen sleet]

The accratran? Psykers also get that

[brave verge]

vet should have dueling sword, its literally an officer's weapon

[glacial peak]

Imo thammer and the force weapons/staffs and plasma guns are all that should be exclusive

[keen sleet]

Also, Zealot with a duelling sword would be absurdly easy even on HI5

[junior needle]

psykers, regretfully, also have access to recons

[autumn perch]

Hey guys can you watch out for my dinner and make sure nothing happens to it while I’m gone please? This is the last bit of food I have please

[unkempt lagoon]

the dead memes channel is leaking

[glacial peak]

Psykers have recon las

[broken spade]

sorry i ate it

[unkempt lagoon]

not dead-memes

but the meme channel that is dead

[keen sleet]

Zealot channel

[unkempt lagoon]

zealot channel

[glacial peak]

Also vet can keep helbores tbh

[autumn perch]

[unkempt lagoon]

I fear a zealot with combat shovel

[junior needle]

Yes, that's what I said

[hearty panther]

Recon is best on Psyker even

[ivory rock]

Can't wait for 4 focus target vet matches where we fuck dh up like it's nothin tho

[south spindle]

They do

[glacial peak]

You can keep that shit we got better things

[south spindle]

I wouldnt say its particularly good on Psyker, but its there

[junior needle]

I wish they didn't

[brisk umbra]

Survivalist

[hearty panther]

True Aim and Emphatic Evasion and much more impactful damage buffs for the gun

[junior needle]

The amount of ammo hogging gun psykers I had to deal with in yonder days

[hearty panther]

Basically an intangible laser turret

[crude wind]

i love this Psyker load out

[glacial peak]

Scries makes psykers better at guns than vet and you people need to be more upset about it

[keen sleet]

TRUE

[crude wind]

yeah but it makes you worse at being a psyker

[junior needle]

Minus survivalist

[crude wind]

so, fair trade

[keen sleet]

I LOVE my columnus as a gunsyker

[hearty panther]

Such a good time. Still testing the new Riposte tho

[kind scarab]

🍕

Delicious

[glacial peak]

What do you mean by this?

[keen sleet]

Deflector F-sword

[autumn perch]

[hearty panther]

Or was it Precog? Whichever is crit chance on dodge

[autumn perch]

IM GONNA STARVE NOW

[crude wind]

I think Scriers gaze is like, an F tier combat ability

[keen sleet]

It is precog

[hearty panther]

I constantly confuse them

[glacial peak]

Its excellent your insane

[crude wind]

why is it excellent

what does it allow you do that you can't already do

[untold mulch]

so, of what we read

what is the opinion on the keystones?

[glacial peak]

Giga crit chance on a class on the class that gets bullet immunity on crit as well as giga damage

[unkempt lagoon]

giga? the 33% is a typo for suuure

[gritty dock]

What are the 2-3 best Blessings on the Accatran Mk VId Recon Lasgun?

[crude wind]

Psyker has the most dps in the game

why do u need scriers

[hearty panther]

Headhunter, Dumdum, Stripped Down

[untold mulch]

Imo, don't bother yet, just wait and pray the patch dchanges it

[crude wind]

you know what else stops bulelts?

[untold mulch]

They may rebalance it soon, and would require entire build rework

[crude wind]

a shield that regenerates your entire party's toughness

[glacial peak]

Because staffs are boring as shit to play and scriers makes guns good

[crude wind]

I play gunker I just don't use scriers

cause, it's bad

[glacial peak]

It literally isn’t

[sterile garnet]

psyker main

scrier's is good

anyone who says otherwise isnt playing darktide

they are playing something else

[hearty panther]

Scriers haz zero utility but it is good

[crude wind]

that's funny

[untold mulch]

we are going to see a lot more Vets that will shoot at everything

[crude wind]

I playtested that shit

[edgy jungle]

whats the highest tier of surgical?

[glacial peak]

It’s utility is making everything you shoot or stab explode

[sterile garnet]

4

[untold mulch]

IV

[hearty panther]

Tru

[edgy jungle]

ok thanks

[crude wind]

you can already do that without scriers

[sterile garnet]

surgical 4, as you can see

[crude wind]

Dueling Sword mkIV is a one shot machine

Assail clears hordes like no other, and then you have the IAGs for boss/Ogre damage and you're golden

[unkempt lagoon]

turret gameplay

[untold mulch]

Hopefully one of the upgrades gives more itme to move

ngl

[glacial peak]

I’ll give you that because your right ds4 is fucking grossly overtuned and assail can be used exclusively but like what if I wanted to use another melee weapon and or didn’t want to simply throw assail for an entire map

[slow spade]

just lost a round because the game literally removed all 3 of my teammate lol

[unkempt lagoon]

the reload speed bonus is pitiful, really needs to be 5% per stack or something

i need to see that borderlands 0.5 second reload

[untold mulch]

tbf, there is no upper limit

At least not stated

[crude wind]

that's obviously fair, playing different ways is fun. I'm just not convinced that what you give up for scriers is worth it from a p4p point of view. But if you enjoy it then by all means carry on enjoying it

my feedback on it was pretty damning

[hearty panther]

Idk what else you could do with Scriers tho tbh

[serene pagoda]

lmao game gave me a drop with alot of crit chance stuff lmon

[umbral scaffold]

Do you guys think this Dclaw can be rescued, and how?

[hearty panther]

Its numbers are pretty beefy

I do hope DDs sillyness gets fixed

With the shuffling targets and invisible bruiser mark

[crude wind]

I'd be surprised if that didn't get fixed

FUN PSYKER MINI GAMES

WE LOVE EM

[idle hare]

Thoughts?

[crude wind]

WANNA PLAY DARKTIDE? OR WANNA PLAY FUN MINIGAMES?

OR BOTH?

[hearty panther]

I really do love it

[serene pagoda]

thats one long plasma

[crude wind]

i'm glad someone does

[serene pagoda]

why the brittleness ?

[glacial peak]

Ok if we’re talking pure strength of builds psyker has access too I won’t argue scriers is unnecessary. But it’s the only set where don’t feel completely brain dead playing it because staffs are boring as shit while assail is mechanically interesting it’s recharge rate is so insanely fast brainless spamming them is also extremely powerful. Scriers let me play the video game in a way that’s engaging

[hearty panther]

But holy shit does it stink when I'm actively BBing a blueboi and suddenly the mark zooms over to someone else right out from under me lmao

[crude wind]

totally fair bro. I feel that as well. Assail is mindless and shield dome is also quite a boring ability

I'm a little sad about the psyker tree tbh, it's got a lot of power but I lament what could have been

[hearty panther]

Rectangle shield gang best gang

[crude wind]

they had Sienna to draw influence from

where's the cool EXPLODE ultimate XD

or fire walk

or whatever the psyker equivalent would be

also would be cool if they'd leant into Biomancy themes

[hearty panther]

I would love a node that lets you overheat for free on high cooldown for impressive effect

[crude wind]

like making your Psyker a jacked melee killer

[serene pagoda]

Before the launch of darktide i was looking foward to make a unchained sienna spyker.
but really quickly i noticed there aint a way to make one.
invested in vet, and been a vet main since then.

[glacial peak]

Imo a majority of the issues come from how mechanically uninteresting staffs are. Like there’s no finger rolling from fireball or aim skill needed from bolt

[crude wind]

rectangle shield is quite fun, a bit awkard to place. i love bouncing bursters with it tho

[hearty panther]

No beam staff either sadge

[serene pagoda]

also, the nerf to base psyker ultimate was the worst thing they could've done to the thing.
it vents only half your peril, dude, if i hold my fucking vent button in 3 seconds im good. why does my ultimate ability that takes 30 seconds, is worse than 3 seconds of buttom holdin

[glacial peak]

Beam can stay in v2

[crude wind]

I would love to see shotgun staff return

with PSYCHIC GEYSERS

[hearty panther]

I liked beam :<

[crude wind]

(not fire)

[serene pagoda]

its deffy coming to darktide eventualy, its not like fatshark is known for creativity.
vermintide got psyker staffs

[sterile garnet]

they could change all the lmbs on the staves to be unique, for starters. they could also change the special staff bonk to be something useful/interesting/fun

[glacial peak]

Shotgun can comeback but fuck beam

[hearty panther]

Give psykers the actual shotguns already plz

[crude wind]

in the lore Eisenhorn literally unmakes a Daemonhost with a Force Staff melee attack

[glacial peak]

Also that

[crude wind]

i would LOVE for the special to be a force attack

[hearty panther]

Imagine how dirty the Agrip slug would be in our hands

[untold mulch]

Damn

I am leveling Psyker now, and the staff hit is just

thats it?

[glacial peak]

But I’m begging for staffs to have some kind of mechanical depth at all.

[crude wind]

yeah sad bonking noises

[hearty panther]

They used to be even worse

[crude wind]

true they got a face lift

[unkempt lagoon]

imagine a grenadier gauntlet-punch like special on the staves

[glacial peak]

BW mains were respected. They had finger rolling down to an art and if they were bolt gamers they had fucking immaculate aim

[celest forge]

Hey is it normal the penance resupply allies gets stuck at 2778 ammo resupplied out of 5000 ? I tried with scavenger only and survivalist and it doesnt move

[stuck crypt]

Hello, is the pin on weapons still updated ?

[unkempt lagoon]

it doesnt work as of patch 13

[celest forge]

okay cool

is there a list of working penances ? just wondering

[unkempt lagoon]

Pretty sure its the only broken one

[celest forge]

ok ty

[willow badger]

what niche would u guys say vets fill that other classes dont

[unkempt lagoon]

combat shovel

[glacial peak]

Having a bad tree

[unkempt lagoon]

But seriously, I'd say reliable ranged damage is something the vet tends to do better

[willow badger]

[crude wind]

i don't think current Vet tree is bad it's just got some really awkward talent placements

[glacial peak]

I think the only truely unique thing a vet can add is reliable over toughness in a useful way

[willow badger]

cause rn i'm doing okay surviving and keeping up with the the group but my scoreboard stats are always mid compared to ogryn/psyker. was wondering if there was anything i could do to contribute more

[crude wind]

like all toughness and toughness regen being at the bottom

save that catch a breath talent above scavenger

[unkempt lagoon]

You only stand a chance at top fragging with vet with exe stance, only because you're shooting things others cant see, before they can get to them

[crude wind]

it definitely doesn't feel like a complete tree though

[dusk jacinth]

so do u guys think that there will be classes like vermintide

[glacial peak]

Nah we’re kind of all in on the tree thing

[willow badger]

wall hacks as in plasma pew pew

[unkempt lagoon]

exe stance highlighting enemies

[dusk jacinth]

does anyone have the images of the vet build image thing sat the topo

[unkempt lagoon]

through walls etc

[marble hare]

What are these keystones?

[little pagoda]

what is wrong with you people

[dusk jacinth]

these

[willow badger]

i would feel bad giving up shout for exec stance a lil

[dusk jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/nba-karl-malone-utah-jazz-gif-10041967210753654817

[glacial peak]

As someone who really doesn’t get the point of what melee vet has on zealot I really just think shout is a uniquely good ult especially compared to relic

[unkempt lagoon]

Shout is really good, but I'm just saying that you're not getting top damage with shout but you're really helping the team

[little pagoda]

are you also coping when it comes to recon

[dusk jacinth]

wtf recon

i use da mxii

like very other vet

[queen quiver]

I love shooting the bad men I wanna stand still and shoot snipers on the other end of the map and then scream into VC about how good I am. I don’t want to dodge or block I only want to stand and shoot like we are in the 17th millennium

[little pagoda]

is he trolling

[dusk jacinth]

wtf talkigna bout...

crazy person...

idk!

[little pagoda]

or is it a thing still

[willow badger]

excuse me i also wanna crouch and shoot

[dusk jacinth]

when the heck will we be able to make our vets look like dis

[glacial peak]

Kraks are solid but like let’s be real melee elites can be made into a joke on any class without needing to wait a minute for that ability to comeback

[hearty panther]

i already look like this irl

[queen quiver]

Never because we don’t have back pack ammo supply

[dusk jacinth]

proof??????

fake...

[unkempt lagoon]

shouty malding

[dusk jacinth]

then add it!!!

[queen quiver]

Hellgun when

[hearty panther]

its a picture of me

[dusk jacinth]

hoily shit

[hearty panther]

thats a gaming chair behind him

[untold mulch]

Catfish answered a Hellgun comment yesterday

Soooo

[queen quiver]

What did they say

[unkempt lagoon]

what was it

[untold mulch]

We may soon, but don't take it as gospel

[unkempt lagoon]

lol

[dusk jacinth]

i wish they'd give the vet a lho stick or something like that image

[hearty panther]

cant wait for our tiny hellguns

[untold mulch]

Why tiny?

[unkempt lagoon]

heckguns

[dusk jacinth]

still waiting for longlas

[untold mulch]

Gotta keep it PG

[dusk jacinth]

i wish they'd make a gun zealot or something

[topaz lance]

I'd be happy with either the double barrel shotty or the bolt pistol with part 2 in december

[dusk jacinth]

cant stand melee zealot

[glacial peak]

Skill issue

[topaz lance]

You can kinda do it

kinda

not really

but kinda

[dusk jacinth]

i want jannisary zealot with a bigass machine gun

jannisary zealot built enitrely just for constant damage with heavy guns n shit would be way more fun then melee zealot das all im saying

[glacial peak]

Gun zealot just means taking chastise

[queen quiver]

Give the zealot a heavy flamer fire hose

[dusk jacinth]

but i want a fucking BOLTER

and i dont wnat darktid bolter......

that one sucks

when we getting a bardin engineer zealot

[pliant crown]

make every shot count gotten

[dusk jacinth]

i wanna use a minigun and not have to play ogryn

[unkempt lagoon]

i mean zealot is a babby ogryn already

[dusk jacinth]

i dont want 2 be babby ogryn i want to be gun zealot with big gun

bardin minigun type beat

[serene pagoda]

soon will mark 1 year of my dumbass waiting for this cosmetics that they advertize everyfuckingwhere

all i want is that chest piece.

😎

[unkempt lagoon]

the one piece

[serene pagoda]

the pants also looks better than what he have because i dont have robocop fucking shoes

https://tenor.com/view/the-one-piece-is-real-one-piece-is-real-chopper-one-pice-cry-crying-gif-16937848457580500038

[ruby totem]

[spring spindle]

So let me get this straight. The middle tree keystone is basically just

“If you tag this enemy. They take more damage.”

[junior needle]

Yes, but you can't rapid tag, you build up damage stacks

[thorn lark]

As a melee vet, after seeing the breakdown I think I'll miss having 15% attack speed all the time...

[junior needle]

I think it's severely boring

[untold mulch]

The subnodes may save them

Which imo, is dumb

Forcing a node to actually use it well, is just tax

but I guess can balance it points wise

I hope there is a way to extend the left one timer more

[spring spindle]

So left is basically deal more weak spot damage. But if you aren’t keeping it up. You lose that damage if you move

Middle is tagging enemies gives more damage. But it basically has a slight cooldown for max effect

Right side promotes switching between weapons

In simple terms

[copper quartz]

please just put confirm kill somewhere early

pls

[junior needle]

And ammo

[spring spindle]

The extra ammo nods you mean

[idle hare]

because it's better for you to shoot more than to overcharge max 3-4 times. And it can kill bosses if you max brittleness to 16 and toss your kraks while it's up

[spring spindle]

Yeah that deserves to be a little earlier IMO

[junior needle]

Yes, the 25% ammo

That ogryn gets just for going into the ranged tree

But vet needs to invest a ton of points into down a branch that isn't particularly good in many instances

[serene pagoda]

eh, im unsure to be honest.
it all comes down to the treshhold, if you can hit kill all the specials with it, then brittleness is deffy worth it, if not, then maybe another blessing might be better.

[spring spindle]

I was wondering if one keystone would be grenade focused tbh but I suppose not. We get a lot of nade stuff

[forest blaze]

It’s a good setup for sure. I’ve found that I like flak or maniac with unyielding but it’s just preference at that point

[serene pagoda]

they really moved away from nades.....
i'd think it'd be alot cooler to have a nade focused ultimate rather than having the same ultimate that the zealots hav.

[forest blaze]

I’ve found I love those frag grenades. Give me all the grenades and I’ll throw them. I can’t stop throwing them.

[grim walrus]

One can dream to have this for Vet.

[forest blaze]

Monstro shows up? I’ll throw all the grenades R him too

[serene pagoda]

frag nades are very good

also the 10% for double nades is the most pointless thing i've seen in the game.

[spring spindle]

I personally think the zealot should have the new stealth ability vs the vet. But that’s just me.

[forest blaze]

I tried it and it sucks lmao

[serene pagoda]

just grab the 25% more dmg and if you do the math in the end you will be dealing more dammage.

[spring spindle]

Or should I say. Not have one

[grim walrus]

Honestly just the perks.
Blessings aren´t that bad.

I like to go for weakspot damage and maniac.

Mayble block is worth it for the parry.

[untold mulch]

Any day, pray

[serene pagoda]

it should've worked like psykers keystone that increases dmg.
like guarantees a double nade if you do a certain action, rather than just rng

[forest blaze]

For me it’s the radius boost I like. The bleed procs on AM in a whole room can be clutch

[sinful cave]

[serene pagoda]

but the radious boost also increase dmg by 25%

that one is great

[untold mulch]

Unless one of the subnodes change it dramatically

time to see all newbs shooting hordes still even more

[umbral scaffold]

Thanks, so this is fine without a cleave blessing huh? I thought that might make it more complicated

[hollow turtle]

Just give us that full carapace helmet with the goggles on the left. Premium Cosmetics+modding community would somehow take care of the rest

[serene pagoda]

its bonkers

[grim walrus]

I like the Vanguard bundle, but man how long must one wait to have these lads?

[serene sage]

it also gives you stun immunity

[untold mulch]

I thought you mean the hellgun

The skins, I assume any time they see it getting that max profit

[serene pagoda]

it does what now

[untold mulch]

Another one learns the secret behind Fatshark code

[spring spindle]

You know what skin I think would be cool for Vet? Something resembling a Tempestus Scion,

It won’t happen. But I’d love it

[serene sage]

grenade tinkerer gives you stun immunity

[untold mulch]

In the code of the grenade perk is legit written like "stun=no"

[serene pagoda]

....

[untold mulch]

Why? no idea

[serene sage]

common sense

better nade = no stun

[untold mulch]

The confidence of better nades

[serene pagoda]

i know that this increases the dammage you recieve.

but

[hollow turtle]

Unfortunately, the fact there is dialogue about veteran asking about wanting Tempestus Scion gear means it'll never happen otherwise the line would be void.

[serene pagoda]

i did not knew about the stun lmao

[spring spindle]

Exaggerated swagger of nade spam

[zealous wyvern]

stun?

[untold mulch]

I want Scions, but goddamn Fatshark isn't gettign a penny from me for now

[pure ridge]

I got off Darktide, went for a walk, and came back. Did FS just kill the #memes while I was away?

[serene sage]

stun? no
hotel? trivago

[serene pagoda]

from tinker

[zealous wyvern]

ah yes

it actually is bad for me

i do not notice getting hit

and wonder where my hp went

[serene sage]

oh hahah

[zealous wyvern]

i know there are other indicators but i have gotten so used to the stagger

[untold mulch]

It was the mods, it was a pain in the ass to maintain

[zealous wyvern]

i do not register melee hits if i do not get staggered by it

so i took tinkerer off again

[serene sage]

it stops you from being stunned by bomber