veteran-class

[midnight patrol]

"Okay Big Mans! Go Fuller Auto!"

[finite imp]

BZZZZZZZ

The barrels would melt

[hollow turtle]

There's probably going to be something like the lucky bullet keystone the Ogryn has tbh.

[hollow solstice]

Or just pull a vermintide where you just fully drop the gun and pull a new one out of nothing

[onyx urchin]

"fuller auto"
*BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM*

[terse idol]

[spring spindle]

Temperorary bottemless Mag keystone

[strange grove]

bow down before me

[terse idol]

NOW TO BE FAIR what I'm quoting is on the page on krieg commisar, as far as we know a proper krieg guardsmen would listen to the non-krieg commisar even if it hurts

[onyx urchin]

kreigers man
spade and a hellbore, they love the trenches

[finite imp]

bricked

[strange grove]

meh it suits me fine

[finite imp]

love is a strong word

[hybrid river]

Bricked

[onyx urchin]

they live for the trenches

[strange grove]

When the locks come off it will be a tier 1 sword 😛

[dapper vessel]

IIRC Sunder has a hidden armour bonus hitmass ignore, 4x cleave, and a minimum target limit of 3

[hybrid river]

But bromentum already gives you the infinite cleave

[dapper vessel]

BM has a target cap of 4

[hybrid river]

Ahh

Obese megalodon moment

[past knot]

I hate you now that I know something called sunder exist

I have to grind

[dapper vessel]

its amazing how nondescriptive Fatshark can be

many an arguments over what something actually does happens thanks to this

[finite imp]

that's on purpose

it extends argument time

[hearty panther]

Oh I never swapped the perks on my MK6. Unyielding Elites is the way to go then?

[dapper vessel]

Flak, Carapace, Elites take your pick

[empty creek]

what is the weapon customization mod on uhhhh

nexus

[hybrid river]

Not on nexus

[empty creek]

oh brother

where then

[hybrid river]

Only on the darktide modding discord

[dapper vessel]

You can 1 shot reapers and bulwarks with weak spot hits on the mark 6 without Unyielding

you only need BM

no precision needed

you 1 shot muties also without precision

[hearty panther]

Precision Strikes on the left or Desperado

[dapper vessel]

depends on your build but I run desperado since I do melee vet

[hearty panther]

Or either or both

[dapper vessel]

if you have the points for it

I dont use Rending Strikes for it

[hearty panther]

The block cancel tech is hella fun

[dapper vessel]

just

get behind them

[edgy dew]

I finally unlocked flechette, anyone know a good talent build to maximize a shotgun/bleed build?

[dapper vessel]

or wait till their attack animation expose their body

[finite imp]

i just be light attacking the bullwarks shield. I literally just be smacking it with my knife while everyone dies.

[dapper vessel]

and go for the push attack

[robust mirage]

would it be worht it to buy this just to get the headhunter 4?

[dapper vessel]

if you have spare money yes

[finite imp]

i mean definitely do get HH4

[dapper vessel]

i do not care about your solo auric maelstrom videos

and I never base scenarios on solo games

[spice wadi]

MELON

[finite imp]

PLEASE LOOK AT ME PLAY THIS GAME REALLY GOOD LOOK AT MY DARKTIDE MONTAGES PLEEEEASE WATCH MY JOHN DARKTIDE BUILD WORK AS INTENDED :C

CMOOOON

[spice wadi]

[finite imp]

I shoot da rager in the face c:

[spice wadi]

His name is melon now

stan has won

[finite imp]

no items

final destination

[muted gorge]

Aren't you gonna get spammed with trappers and dogs playing a solo run?'

[finite imp]

i forgot to get fucking peanut at the store

[midnight patrol]

Unironically I cannot get the MG IV to work with even a well built Veteran

[finite imp]

just get good

[hollow turtle]

Based

[muted gorge]

Krill issue

[spice wadi]

when u say 'work'

wdym 'work'

[midnight patrol]

It works okayish at medium to long range, but without cleave that the other infantry lasguns have

[finite imp]

they used to be homing missles of absolute death

[midnight patrol]

Just really feels like a downgrade

[finite imp]

Hey hot take Lasguns kinda blow right now

YES

[brisk umbra]

Oh sweet fuck

[spice wadi]

not a fan of infantry las

[finite imp]

i watched a dog doing an idol animation slowly descend from the heavens down on a teammate

[brisk umbra]

The new Talents for Veteran seem to be under the buffs

[finite imp]

and grab him

[brisk umbra]

Are they shitting us?

[past knot]

Is supercharge good on power sword?

[upper bramble]

New vet talents are keystones, they go at the end

[finite imp]

better not take me 25 skill points just to get to them

[brisk umbra]

Yeah, not great when the tree feels balanced without having to spend another 5 points at random

[serene pagoda]

we won lads

[past knot]

Wait new tree out?

[brisk umbra]

Like, i honestly don't even know what 5 points to remove for a keystone

[past knot]

What

[brisk umbra]

Nah it's on tthe preview

[finite imp]

not yet

this month

[upper bramble]

New tree in november

[past knot]

Oh shi

[serene pagoda]

is that ryoshu in your pfp ?

[trim steppe]

Does Shattering Impact work on the Plasma now? I know it was broken before

[upper bramble]

Sunder lets you go through bulwark shields?

[past knot]

Yessir ryoshu red mist

[upper bramble]

Oh, that's way better

Cool

[serene pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[brisk umbra]

Oh god, they are more than 3 points for keystones

[past knot]

🤝

[serene pagoda]

i assume they are removing a few uselss nodes and putting those in place

[dapper vessel]

no Unyielding

[brisk umbra]

So we gotta somehow remove like 7 points

[finite imp]

When Azreal speaks I listen. I don't actually do any of the things he suggests but I listen

[serene pagoda]

lmon

[brisk umbra]

The fuck fatshark, what do we do, just go straight down a line and nothing else?

[dapper vessel]

no Unyielding

then turn off precision

if you think im wrong

[finite imp]

GAMER FIGHT

[dapper vessel]

.

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/ref-referee-timeout-stop-football-gif-7191941

[dapper vessel]

...

same build

and you also have agile

[finite imp]

now kiss

[dapper vessel]

I do too?

both perks are locked on mine

no

Flak and Elites/Carapace

Especially on scab only and scab only melee

[finite imp]

both of yall are clearly expressing preferences based on playstyles...i hope you realize that

[hearty panther]

I can't believe y'all are doing this instead of pointlessly inferring what the new keystones might be from a single cropped image smh

[finite imp]

Because muh meta

[dapper vessel]

???

?????

[hallow parcel]

breakpoints

[upper bramble]

Sniping, inspiring and weapon swapping

[hallow parcel]

the extra damage doesn't help

[hearty panther]

Melon broke.

[hallow parcel]

since overkill is technically wasted damage

[dapper vessel]

you literally hit 2 shot breakpoints on Crushers with Carapace 25%

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

[dapper vessel]

if your Power sword couldnt reach it and only do a 3 shot

[finite imp]

this what yall sound like

[dapper vessel]

[dapper vessel]

I can 2 shot Crushers without 25% Carapace too

[finite imp]

I've been here since release. This place used to be much worse.

[hearty panther]

There are way too few carapace targets for me to ever roll it on any weapon imo

[finite imp]

actually

I've been here since beta

[dapper vessel]

if

[finite imp]

what am i saying

[hallow parcel]

Its a meme

[dapper vessel]

you cant reach the breakpoint

[past knot]

Brutal momentum, rampage or supercharge on mk3 power sword?

[dapper vessel]

Brutal momentum

[spice wadi]

why would u admit this

[finite imp]

fearless

[dapper vessel]

why Sunder

[past knot]

Ah bm it is than

[spice wadi]

[past knot]

I'm broke on plasteel

[iron marten]

beta days were wild af

[past knot]

Cant farm it

[tall torrent]

400% cleave and u can actually cleave through multiple ragers & bulwark in 1 swing

[finite imp]

it was arguments literally every single day

sometimes for days

[empty heron]

Jesus. Struggled hard.

[brisk umbra]

Yeah honestly auric lately has been neigh impossible, so many xbox controller players

that try to turn toward poxbusters and implode before finishing to turn

[tall wolf]

There's post game details now?

[hallow parcel]

mod

[empty heron]

mod

[upper bramble]

Damn, poor brob

[idle dirge]

I got a power sword mk6 with power cycler and brutal momentum 4, and now I’m spending millions of plasteel trying to get sunder cause brutal momentum ain’t doing it for me

[tall wolf]

Damn. Shame

[spice wadi]

GASP

[finite imp]

B)

[upper bramble]

Mods in this game are very cool and easy to install on pc, tragic for xbox folk tho

[past knot]

From what I reading if I get a weakspot kill during swing with bm wouldn't that just cleave everything in front of me?

[finite imp]

Xbox is basically just Diet pc

[tall wolf]

I'm jist too lazy to deal with installing lol
I just hit play

[hallow parcel]

ah wrong person to reply to

[idle dirge]

I’m not saying it’s bad at all, but sunder doesn’t need to kill something for extra cleave

[strange grove]

Best blessings for this gun? I made this long ago and it sucks, but I like the gun itself

[spice wadi]

you FOOL

[brisk umbra]

using another gun

[tall torrent]

Yes but there’re targets you don’t kill in 1 swing

[hallow parcel]

FINALLY

[spice wadi]

TWICE

[strange grove]

Is the Vraks better? I like the DMR concept

[finite imp]

First day of the beta lmao

[hallow parcel]

SOMEONE SENT SOMETHING RIGHT AS I CLICKED IT

[dapper vessel]

does it actually cleave through bulwark shield?

[brisk umbra]

Ye, the Vrak7 is quite good, it hits a ton of breakpoints now

[finite imp]

idk why i ended up playing so late

[upper bramble]

Takes like 5 mins or less

[past knot]

I'm pretty sure I can one shot some zombies and most of the time its mixed in damnation

[hallow parcel]

I got in a bit later but told my buddies and they all jumped in with me

[finite imp]

OH RIGHT

I was waiting on friends

[hallow parcel]

I didn't know about the game until someone mentioned the beta

[limpid hull]

any leaks on the vet talent tree changes?

[finite imp]

Who no longer play

because the release disaster

[tall torrent]

Against rager spam it doesn’t work as efficiently as sunder

[wanton dawn]

It does not hurt bulwark but anything else

[idle dirge]

I know, yes :p

[hallow parcel]

My buddies are my DnD buddies who are also warhammer nerds

so I can still summon them

[finite imp]

Same

i cannot they call me a shill

[past knot]

I see I see
Is sunder tier 4 only?

[tall torrent]

Yes

[finite imp]

and say im sponsored by gamer supps

[hallow parcel]

at least two of us in my group actively collect armies lol

[finite imp]

i have an ork army

[hallow parcel]

Nids

[finite imp]

nice

[past knot]

I'm open to suggestion as to how to get that blessing

[dapper vessel]

hmmm

[past knot]

[strange grove]

what would you change?

[neon briar]

how much trash clear do you lose taking sunder instead of bm?

[dapper vessel]

what I expect is you actually damaging a Bulwark through his shield

[tall torrent]

Pray to the emperor with your lungs

[finite imp]

get plasteel

[hallow parcel]

I use a garbage bag for trash myself

[finite imp]

roll on trash

throw away trash

[past knot]

[dapper vessel]

just the perks

[finite imp]

ez blessing darm

[strange grove]

typical flak/maniac?

[tall torrent]

Headhunter to surgical
Upgrade deadly accurate / swap carapace to maniac

[dapper vessel]

yes

[tall torrent]

HH auto doesn’t need flak, it’s insanely cracked against flak already

[past knot]

Well I no longer have that 20k plasteel from yesterday maybe I just take bm and call it a day

Fuck

[tall torrent]

Plus v7 has super high headshot dmg

[strange grove]

hopefully I have surgical for this gun

[tall torrent]

BM is very serviceable, use till u earn sunder then u can decide

[past knot]

Yeah thasy the plan but well I just pray to sir milk

[serene pagoda]

oh wait the vet tree isn't just getting keystones, its also getting changed. possible improved.

[spice wadi]

idk

[strange grove]

lvl 3 but sure do

[upper bramble]

Depends on if they change anything higher up the tree, which they hopefully will

[subtle hornet]

Does it works with highlighted ranged?

[spice wadi]

at the mo its a blurry image isnt it

[brisk umbra]

i mean it's pretty much perfect, just get flak over crit damage. Oh yeah, as 98 said, just get maniac

[real mantle]

Wasn't Vraks completely destroyed?

[past knot]

Yes sir even normal ranged

[subtle hornet]

Sound easy?

[past knot]

Extremly

[real mantle]

The Siege of Vraks

[past knot]

Just take a headhunter and headhsot group of ranged

[brisk umbra]

y

[amber vapor]

What is the advantage of Sunder over Brutal Momentum if I may ask? From what you said, it sounds like BM cleave less, but more damage, and Sunder is more cleave, but less damage?

[real mantle]

Wasn't the planet Vraks destroyed after the siege or was it recovered

[brisk umbra]

[tall torrent]

Sunder gets to cleave loads of elites and deal dmg whereas BM can’t because it needs to land a weakpoint kill to work

[past knot]

Sunder is tier 4
Goodluck fishing for it

[strange grove]

I can confirm that the Vraks7 has no issue with flak w/o the perk

I'm one tapping things on Heresy in teh meat grinder

[upper bramble]

Tbf you should aim for one tap damnation

[dapper vessel]

dont benchmark things on anything other than damnation

[upper bramble]

Its the true difficulty for the time being

[strange grove]

I can dps down a flakrager faster than the naked one.... wtfffff

[hollow solstice]

I honestly hope they add auric into the psyk

[upper bramble]

Auric doesn't change the psyk

[amber vapor]

thank you everyone for the clarification

[hollow solstice]

it does lol, theres a 50% health increase

in auric

[upper bramble]

Auric is just a fancy word for lots of modifiers

[dapper vessel]

maybe on nurgle blessed

[upper bramble]

Definitely untrue, god the game would be unplayable

[dapper vessel]

but no

[tall torrent]

Auric is just with guaranteed modifiers

[dapper vessel]

theres no HP increase for auric

[upper bramble]

Green nurgle guys are v spooky

[hollow solstice]

No, look at the calculator lmao. Every mob has 50% more health in auric missions

[upper bramble]

Especially green specials like dogs and muties

[spice wadi]

[upper bramble]

Or you could look at the game and check breakpoints there

[dapper vessel]

Elite HP did indeed got buffed in patch 13 and 14

[upper bramble]

Is a lot more accurate

[spice wadi]

u could even play the videogame

[wanton dawn]

[spice wadi]

o fuck

the elites mode

christ

bruiser-b-licious

[wanton dawn]

The cancer mod

[dapper vessel]

Elite Resistance was so bad

they remove it completely

[spice wadi]

i remember dudes getting ninja assassinated by random bald guys

[dapper vessel]

it was

fucking boring as fuck for a few minutes

[hearty panther]

one Reaper was a fucking boss fight

[dapper vessel]

then you just get a game over in 1 minute

[spice wadi]

crazy to me that they went for the hp

and didnt just kinda do an uptier of the mobs

poxer hordes becoming bruiser hordes etc

shotgun damage turned realistic for a second

[upper bramble]

Shotgunners were disgusting

1 shotgun boi could wipe a squad sometimes, if nobody could kill it

[spice wadi]

i remember getting to a finale before the nerf

and turned my back to put an interrogator down

and 4 shotgunners spawned and 3 guys were downed immediately

[gusty bison]

6 shotgunners just instakilling people from across the map

Lol

30m away? Bo problem

Imagine auric gunner patrols. But instead of gunners its all prenerf shotgunners

Enjoy

[past knot]

Precision strike only affects ranged?

[hollow solstice]

what lol?

[spice wadi]

he's back

[tall torrent]

Both gun & melee

[subtle hornet]

Hey, who know what difference between Lucius Helbore Lasgun MK 1/2/3?

[tall torrent]

Mk1 middle ground
Mk2 rapid fire
Mk3 high dmg but slow

[hollow solstice]

Ok so, the breakpoint calculator which was updated 3 days ago is lying to me

[cinder wadi]

is there any hope?

[upper bramble]

Insane take, auric modifier where elites and specials have one shot protection

[dapper vessel]

swap only the blessings

[upper bramble]

Grab hc and surgical and is perfectly good

Changes many weapon dynamics

[cinder wadi]

really so the crit chance is good or juts livable?

[upper bramble]

Crit chance is fine, just not optimal afaik

[dapper vessel]

the crit chance bad

since surgical already does more

just that youre gonna have to live with it

[wraith locust]

You lose one shot bp on maniac ragers

[cinder wadi]

alr

[spice wadi]

columnus bros rising

fire more bullet

[wraith locust]

Without weak point

[ruby fulcrum]

Add in damage over time can't be lethal and you got a game modifier cookin

[upper bramble]

One shot breakpoint on maniacs too difficult, my aim isn't that good anyways

[spice wadi]

enemies can no longer die and u must defeat them with charisma checks

[upper bramble]

That sounds awful, I was thinking the point is to change what weapons are useful

[ruby fulcrum]

Lol. Fair

[cinder wadi]

is this worth upgradin?

[tight dragon]

which braced was the better one?

[spice wadi]

do you already have a good one otherwise

[cinder wadi]

for the revolver or braced?

[dapper vessel]

yes

[candid bridge]

All 3 are good tbh. I think most people go for the agripina braced tho

[dapper vessel]

65% crit bonus should be about 23% crit chance

[cinder wadi]

the pen and crit chance aren't too low?

[dapper vessel]

yes

[cinder wadi]

alr

[dapper vessel]

Ill show you charisma

https://tenor.com/view/shadowheart-jenevelle-bg3-baldur's-gate-3-picmix-gif-16227221810310836431

[candid bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/nat20-d20-20sided-die-20-dnd-gif-15085902

[tall torrent]

Mk2 and Mk8

[hollow ibex]

is there a dump stat on shovels? 🤔

[finite imp]

digging

[spice wadi]

que pasa

[dapper vessel]

between mobility and defences

[dapper vessel]

MITTINS IDK

[empty creek]

almost missed this in the store

alongside this doohickey

[hollow ibex]

thanks

[stark hollow]

Us Vets eating good soon

me like

[upper bramble]

I know it's evil but I wish there was app integration for checking the darktide store so I could buy things while I'm at school

Assasins creed black flag showed me the potential

[celest vine]

Its past my bedtime

[upper bramble]

Weirdly fun little mobile integration, added a shipping mechanic

[rich tapir]

possible Cadian armor on patch drop cuz its Vet patch, callin it now. (Unlikely but staying hopeful.)

[versed osprey]

Best lucius mk?

[past knot]

Where can I see the tree preview?

[dapper vessel]

Mark 3 for biggest DPS

You get infinite ammo with Shock trooper active

As long as the blessing for it is Onslaught and Surgical

Well

Just surgical but Onslaught is nice to have

[serene sage]

Onslaught doesn't feel that good to me tbh

then again i don't use hb3 much

[hearty panther]

there's not much else to take

[hybrid river]

It’s just the images of the new keystone nodes, it shows up at the end of the new trailer

[dapper vessel]

Onslaught isn't really needed on Mark 2 imo

[hearty panther]

Infernus is totally wasted. Sustained Fire doesn't get you much very often. And Falter is ... lol

[past knot]

Wait there's a trailer?

[dapper vessel]

And arguably on the Mark 1 too

[upper bramble]

Check #🐦tweets-sermons

[dapper vessel]

I love staggering things

And making their heads plop around

[hybrid river]

Yes, #🐦tweets-sermons and on youtube

[upper bramble]

And #📢news-bulletin

[marble hare]

Any veteran keystone leaks yet?

[hearty panther]

yes there will be three of them with side nodes and they all do things

[dapper vessel]

Most likely no

[hearty panther]

glorious indeed, i know

[past knot]

Ahh thanks

[spice wadi]

sadly crab is no longer around

to give hints

[hearty panther]

i miss crab. half the useful information in this discord left with him

[upper bramble]

We're a week or two away from the update I think we can survive without leaks

[marble hare]

Middle veteran keystone is blind fighting, obviously. Every mission will be power failure and ventilation for veteran player only, but big buffs to team support skills like Born Leader.

[slow spade]

Next week UwU

[uneven ivy]

is bolter better on vet or zealot

[slow spade]

Vet

[spice wadi]

vt

with an e

[uneven ivy]

based

[slow spade]

Executioner lets you instantly pull out bolter

Also better damage

[upper bramble]

They should really make weapons universal between classes

[uneven ivy]

what if commissarmaxxing

[slow spade]

Vet with purg staff

Ogryn with revolver

[grizzled pebble]

The damage taken by these guys. 💀

[spice wadi]

lemme just unleash my psychic powers

[slow spade]

I mean you're not paying for the medicae UwU

[strange grove]

Thanks for recommending the Vraks7 over the KXII, its leaps and bounds better

[spice wadi]

wat da hell is this layout

[uneven ivy]

bolter on ogryn would be excellent

[marble hare]

I only use my bolter for healing. I grab born leader, throw myself into a horde and wildly rapid fire my bolter with inspiring barage to keep my team mates toughness max. HUGE efficiency.

[grizzled pebble]

It's the ultra gimp layout pls don't copy.

[spice wadi]

they arrest ppl for committing crimes against excel like this

[upper bramble]

That's not really what I meant

[grizzled pebble]

Surprised the zealot did that much damage given he died 3 times.

[slow spade]

Martyrdom build has death?

No way UwU

[grizzled pebble]

With a chainaxe.

He didn't go full martyrdom.

He had like 4 wounds.

[slow spade]

Lol I wonder if he took the +2 wound node was like "that's enough"

[grizzled pebble]

Some ghetto stuff for sure.

Luckily mk6 power sword and columbus infantry autogun are op.

[spice wadi]

columbus

[slow spade]

I wonder if Chainaxe is ever getting love

[grizzled pebble]

Dat christopher columbus autogun mane

[slow spade]

Or is that for the Khorne DLC UwU

[grizzled pebble]

Based explorer took lands from indians.

[marble hare]

Any truth to genestealers being in update 2?

[slow spade]

Na, no way

Btw the miners in section 5 have been really good. They're exceeded quota like 10 times now

[void girder]

I'm getting the feeling that Survivalist isn't that good. Maybe it's good in the higher difficulties with elites swarming you, but on level 3?

[robust mirage]

is it even worth to try and lvl it?

[upper bramble]

Survivalist is better than the other 2 by a mile

[marble hare]

Survivalist is great when dealing with hounds

Thsoe packs give so much ammo

[void girder]

How much really is 1% tho

[slow spade]

So the ONLY source of ammo regen isn't good for you compared to 3% damage or 5% speed?

[upper bramble]

Survivalist is great, full stop

[tall torrent]

It’s a lot

[marble hare]

It's 3 shots on a vrak hh.

Which is at least 2.5 elites dead

[slow spade]

You don't even need to get the kill

Everyone gets the ammo too

[upper bramble]

1% for the whole team, on higher difs you'll get potentially hundreds of elites/specials

[void girder]

Really hit a bee nest here..

[slow spade]

Its an immense team buff

[upper bramble]

Is really good for big ogg

[slow spade]

Nothing will get you pounced on faster than saying something objectively wrong

At least you learn here than in games

[tall torrent]

It’s the difference between whether the Ogryn gets to shoot his kickback the whole entire game without ammo pickups

[slow spade]

Nope

Got removed in patch 13

[upper bramble]

My info is outdated and accordingly deleted

[marble hare]

Now, we should talk about the true mvp talent... born leader

[upper bramble]

Regardless, very dope ammo gen

[slow spade]

I wish it did though...

[tall torrent]

It’s gaining a minimum of 1 ammo but anything above is rounded down until it reaches 1

[slow spade]

Indeed but the rounding was removed which was related to the original comment

To be fair, far fewer enemies spawn too so its kind of self-regulating

[tall torrent]

It still rounds to 1 minimum
It’s just that if you’re using something that would gain let’s say 3.5 ammo per kill, you’d get 3 first, and 2nd kill gives 4

[sharp ember]

i was wondering if kickback ogryns got like. 0.3 of a shell lmao

[hearty panther]

Oh man I hope this is the update where they kill Survivalist too

[delicate estuary]

people hate plasteel or what

[sharp ember]

that would be interesting for sure, or AT LEAST do something for the other auras

[slow spade]

Ah I was just saying that lower difficulties have fewer enemies so the less specialists/elites doesn't matter as much

[slow spade]

Its either incompetence or laziness

I'm not sure which is worse

[delicate estuary]

I am leaning more towards laziness

which I understand

[kind scarab]

I'mma just say, I've been playing zealot for the last few days while I wait for Vet rework to come out, so I don't cry when everything is broken

[delicate estuary]

but its a necessary evil until they figure out something better

[kind scarab]

And I am really enjoying being able to walk up to a demonhost and smash it's ass before it fully gets up

[delicate estuary]

just play exe stance

[slow spade]

"Voice of Command receives another buff"

Probably more for something different

[sharp ember]

i wonder if these keystones are gonna be good enough to be must-haves

HWAT

[delicate estuary]

bad to other options for pubs at least

[hollow solstice]

🫡 alrighty I have become wiser

[slow spade]

Lacks the durability of Zealot but my god can it output damage

Imagine if Zealots got power sword lol

[hearty panther]

I love Agile Engagement

[slow spade]

Agile Engagement needs buff

[hearty panther]

Actually that trifecta on the right tree, Duck n Dive, Agile, and Reciprocity

probs my favourite section of any tree

[strange grove]

wooo?

[slow spade]

So many of my builds used Exhilarating Takedown...

[tall torrent]

Low first target

[astral blade]

Oooooo so the vet tree rework finally is making an appearance

[slow spade]

I was so pissed when I found that out as I realize how much damage it caused me lol

Lol

I remember a game where an enemy was suppose to take 90% damage

But it was coded as 0.1

[delicate estuary]

exe stance does not compare to shout or inflitrate for pubs

there fore

🤢

[slow spade]

Shoot at enemy -> doesn't even show a damage number -> pants shit

[slow spade]

Bro what

[sharp ember]

i need some magazine size talents

[slow spade]

Would be nice indeed

[delicate estuary]

you disagree?

[fleet garden]

patch when

[slow spade]

Yeah

[sharp ember]

never

[slow spade]

Don't feel like arguing

[steep vault]

how do I save this

[slow spade]

Exe stance has so much going for it that infiltrate can't compete

Especially for its point tax

[slow spade]

Replace Volatile, its bugged and doesn't work properly

[delicate estuary]

inflitrate cant go invis and res anyone you want surely

[slow spade]

Funny Fatshark moment

[slow spade]

Preventing crisis > stopping crisis

[fleet garden]

just give us the patch, got other stuff to play later this month

[delicate estuary]

you got psyker with 1 million AOEs

ogryn as well

and zealot can kill anyone he wants

[slow spade]

Kk

[spice wadi]

i am an ENEMY of exe stance

[hearty panther]

you know what hard counters x stance

[fleet garden]

make vetaran op again

[hearty panther]

your fuckkin ogryn

ok i concede that

but yea i dont care for x stance

because a), we had that shit for a year now

and b) infiltrate and VoC have so much more defensive versatility

[delicate estuary]

there is enough damage in the game as it is that exe stance doesnt brin any utility other than in ventilation purge

or lights out

[slow spade]

Not the elites though...

Pls Fatshark...

[hearty panther]

they all got promoted to gunner

like you can even highlight stalkers now

and it doesnt matter lol

if that dropped pre-P12 Veteran would've been ridiculously more busted

i do not

rest in piss old pinning fire

[slow spade]

Its nice not running MK12 all the time

Helbore exe is comfy

[sharp ember]

mg1a has risen

[slow spade]

Eh its mostly just Chaos Spawn imo

Ah ok

Yeah even my power sword cleaves right through bosses

[frank ledge]

Ogryn with basher invalidates the boss alone.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/470880652854820868/1172130598828122162/classico.mp4?ex=655f32af&is=654cbdaf&hm=789a19fda944a7bc63ec9787d302d27fa7b226a77fe90631c174974574b7d2bc&

This has worked for ages tho

used to work on shovel

Ogryn was also never bad.

[slow spade]

Oh it definitely was

[frank ledge]

It's just shitty veteran opinions because only a handful of us knew about slide dodging

[slow spade]

Pre-patch 13 Ogryn lol

[frank ledge]

You could 1 shot plogryn and chaos spawn by shoving them into a door.

Lol

[gritty mirage]

i hate you hadron

[frank ledge]

Hell you STILL CAN kill shit by shoving them into walls

Just instakill

[dusk idol]

you still can kill them with doors

[frank ledge]

Mutants could do it to us a while back

[slow spade]

But that's a pretty good roll?

[frank ledge]

we can do it too

[slow spade]

I mean its not perfect but nothing terrible

[gritty mirage]

@slow spade my old one is this

[slow spade]

Ah rip

[gritty mirage]

i was hoping for better blessings lol

[forest maple]

You blessings are fine? BIS even?

unless you meant you want t4 gets hot

[gritty mirage]

Yea i want t4

[forest maple]

Oh

trailer for the anniversary update dropped

[mortal horizon]

i dont get it. the amount of plasteel ive spent trying to find power cycler 4 is insane

i cannot find it lol

its like 50k plasteel at this point

[iron marten]

Can only offer my condolences

[slow spade]

Just don't be unlucky

[gritty mirage]

Yea that sounds normal too

[mortal horizon]

ive resorted to rolling full leggo's for the higher t4 chance, bc it just wont pop out with blues

[hollow turtle]

You didn't pray to the Omnissiah.

[mortal horizon]

i had to roll almost 100 blues

[iron marten]

Wonder if there are still vets that don’t believe power cycler 4 exists. Those were wild times shortly after beta

[hollow turtle]

In all seriousness, I'm sorry bro. I think I just got it from a melk power sword when it came around

[slow spade]

To be fair, we've had like 3 updates that boosted drop rates of Power Cycler

[mortal horizon]

same my friend hit 30 and found it in melks as a newish player like a week later or less

ive been 30 on this character for 6 months or so

[gritty mirage]

Oof

[hollow turtle]

Now that's just Darktide saying F U at that point. Dayum.

[iron marten]

This is how I got power cycler but as an emperor’s drop

[forest maple]

Same , i got cycler from melk

[hollow turtle]

@mortal horizon Based on what everyone else is saying, just go enjoy the game, bro. It'll show up one day.

[austere creek]

I'm having a lot of trouble with the "Make every shot count" penance, suggestions? I've tried to go for a revolver, use all my shots at the start, and then never pick up ammo again and go full melee but it does not seem to work

[mortal horizon]

i mean i have been

i just been putting spare plasteel into finding it for like SO long

and still nothing

[hollow turtle]

You better be hoping there's not another veteran in the squad running survivalist

[austere creek]

There wasn't

[torn gorge]

50k plasteel isnt that even outrageous as a number

tbh

[slow spade]

90% accuracy requirement wasn't met maybe?

[torn gorge]

thats what? about 50 upgrades from grey

[austere creek]

It feels weird to me, I don't think i missed that many shots

[hollow turtle]

90% should be a lot easier compared to the 100% that was there in the beginning.

[forest maple]

huh?

wdym

[slow spade]

Na 50k is insane

[mortal horizon]

is this useable with 2 rerolls, or nah?

[hollow turtle]

It's about 1500 plasteel from gray to yellow

[mortal horizon]

crucian roulette not good?

[slow spade]

You get roughly 600-800 plasteel per damnation

[hollow turtle]

That doesn't look salvageable

[forest maple]

nope, headhunter or surgical is way better

like not even close

[dusk idol]

if you look at just the number of upgrades it doesn’t sound impressive, but if you factor in the time spent per upgrade

[slow spade]

To spend 50k for nothing is fucked

[dusk idol]

it becomes horrendous

[slow spade]

And that's assuming they do only Quickplay Damnations and win them all lol

[iron marten]

Reminded me of the time spending 30k plasteel to get t4 deflector. Actual ptsd

[hollow turtle]

Yup. don't even know if mamox is playing damnation

[forest maple]

best in slot are headhunter + deadly accurate and flak/maniac for perks. Just scrap it and try again

[gritty mirage]

btw whats the dump stat on power swords?

[hollow turtle]

I'm trying to get a terrible knife roll with mercykiller just so I can get that blessing.

[torn gorge]

i guess i dont really see grabbing a specific weapon/roll as the driving reason to play the game

[forest maple]

mobility/finesse

[gritty mirage]

gotcha thanks

[forest maple]

i lean more towards finesse

[iron marten]

At least have 4 dodges on mobility

[forest maple]

cause the difference is really low

[slow spade]

I get so much mileage from this pic

[hollow turtle]

really? I prefer to dump mobility on a PS.

[pine snow]

how in the hell do i do worse on heresy missions than damnation

[hollow turtle]

Just cuz sometimes them light attacks are needed. Well. At least for a VI

[slow spade]

Generally your combos are 2 hits

[gritty mirage]

the players on heresy are trying to get used to the increased difficulty usually

[slow spade]

So attack speed isn't that bad

[iron marten]

If the mobility is too low on a PS that you get 3 dodges only, scrap it

[forest maple]

i checked a 64 rolled finesse powersword vs an 78 one. The difference was like 0.80 vs 0.81 weakspot power and crit

[gritty mirage]

so team cohesion may be more borked

[pine snow]

ah thats fair

[hollow turtle]

You're playing with players who aren't as serious/skilled as the damnation players

[forest maple]

and 10 vs 11% attackspeed

[slow spade]

Its often your team

[queen fox]

big E gave me a shovel

keeper?

[sharp ember]

keeper

[pine snow]

this is a travesty, i got screwed over by hadron so hard

[gritty mirage]

oof rip

[iron marten]

I just reached 18k plasteel. Can’t wait to dump it all on a specifically wacky weapon build

[hollow turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[pine snow]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-blade-runner2049-defeat-sad-disappointed-gif-17817916

[sharp ember]

Uncanny, and your pick of Maniac or Unarmored to switch to flak

gud shovbel

Trauma to Decimator

[slow spade]

Me trying to get Revolver

[gritty mirage]

i just did a auric maelstrom with monstrosity and specialist, was very satisfying, one thing i noticed is they go really fast, 21 minutes lol

[iron marten]

My revolver thankfully was blessed by melk

[slow spade]

I still don't have a good revolver

[iron marten]

Let me find it

[hollow turtle]

I'm just happy that I'm over 10k plasteel

[slow spade]

My friend is a psyker so he only needs like 4 staffs that all share mostly the same blessings

He has less games played than me but has 130k plasteel lol

[dusk idol]

they dont share any blessings

[slow spade]

For builds they do

[hollow turtle]

I got all characters to level 30, but none of them have an accumulated armory in their inventory like my veteran does.

[swift ingot]

I used to have 10k plasteel, but then I blew 8k trying to get a blessing that I already had banked

[slow spade]

So he doesn't need to grind for some wacky blessing combos

[queen fox]

i actually have 2 good-decent shovels

[dusk idol]

oh

[queen fox]

which do you guys think i should keep?

[slow spade]

All his staffs have Warp Nexus lol

[iron marten]

Me wasting 20k trying to get t4 blaze away (it doesn’t exist)

[dusk idol]

left

warp nexus, warp flurry

they’re pretty much all you need

[hollow turtle]

Are you sure left? That right one has some good penetration compared to the left.

[queen fox]

dont say that i already scrapped it for thrust 4

[hollow turtle]

Lol.

Fuck

[dusk idol]

the difference is minimal and the blessings are meh, they both would be swapped out in my preference

[slow spade]

Meanwhile Vet

[hollow turtle]

Power Cycler IV
Uncanny Strike IV
Mercy Killer IV
Lacerate IV
The list keeps going. And that's just the melee weapons

[fringe saddle]

fellas what do I do with this?

[hollow turtle]

Block Efficiency to Maniacs or Flak.

[fringe saddle]

aight

tysm

[eternal sable]

i can tasteee it

[hollow turtle]

Genuine question. Why do we put maniac on a chainsword again?

Wouldn't flak help deal with the mauler groups?

That dayum running blob of gum.

[ember folio]

what do i need for my revolver to 1shot dreg gunner?

[dusk idol]

rager?

oh wait i get what you mean

[brisk umbra]

a crit or a HS

[eternal sable]

nah i spent most my time on vet so not the most kills

[hollow turtle]

I haven't had much to spend dockets on except on Brunt's rolls

[queen fox]

what else do you spend dockets on

[ember folio]

i thought i was headshotting :(
guess i gotta aim down sight longer for the surgical to kick in

[brisk umbra]

oh yeah, it's super imprecise without ADS (ok, maybe not super imprecise, but you get it )

[hollow turtle]

Lol I could spend the rest on the docket cosmetic shop, but I don't want to flood my cosmetics with stuff I don't want.

[ember folio]

i mean im ADSing im just not doing it long enough for surgical to work its magic i think

[robust mirage]

you good bro?

[ember folio]

need to do headshots with crits to ensure myself

[robust mirage]

you still breathing and eating?

[brisk umbra]

for gunners? o_o

[ember folio]

I DONT KNOW MAN IM NOT KILLIN EM WITH ENOUGH AMMO EFFICIENCY

revolver needs so much damn ammo 😭

[brisk umbra]

it's weird, post your revolver, maybe you have very low damage?

[willow badger]

so i got a skill issue problem. keep getting clapped by mixed hordes

[dusk idol]

are you using the deadshot talent?

[willow badger]

any way to get better or just more practice

[brisk umbra]

I mean, it's been a while since i've used the revolver, but it was a clean non crit HS for gunners

and that was before the insane buffs it had

[buoyant hound]

Start saying "maim,kill,burn" louder and louder until succes

[ember folio]

no?

[willow badger]

already do hehe

[dusk idol]

try it on the revolver

[brisk umbra]

deadshot on revolver is probably the best talent there is

[wanton dawn]

FIRE! DEATH! RENEWAL!

[wooden oar]

Still a dirty handcannon

[ember folio]

WHAT THE F---

[brisk umbra]

not even 80 crit bonus, what trash

[lilac sonnet]

i fucking HATE people bringing in low levels into auric maelstroms FML

[wooden oar]

Mobility on top

[ember folio]

DID YOU SPEND EVERY WAKING SECOND ON THIS GAME GRINDING REVOLVERS OR SOMETHING?

[wooden oar]

That was like my second or third attempt at revolver

[ember folio]

W H A T

[wooden oar]

only weapon I got lucky on fast.

[ember folio]

what goddess of luck did you pray to

[pale spear]

i have become death, destroyer of poxwalkers

[ember folio]

counterpoint: push dodge

[pale spear]

this gun is funnier tho

[finite imp]

Kill elites first

[ember folio]

okay im not sure what talents im supposed to go for anymore

my life is a lie

[solemn dock]

Had an auric last night where a fresh level 30 ogryn was complaining about all the snipers and special. No one forced you to play an auric maelstrom with snipers and extra specials buddy lol

[gritty mirage]

auric maelstrom is you get what you deserve

if you cant hold off 50+ specials in a horde, are you really living

that or you gotta zoomies more

[ember folio]

Krak, survivalist, voc, and for the emperor?

[edgy condor]

Would Brutal Momentum or Slaughterer be better on my mk 6 power sword here?

[pine snow]

what should i change on this

[wanton dawn]

Slaughterer to BM/Sunder and unarmored to smth else

[subtle hornet]

Complete mission with out melee damage taking - is stupid penance.

[pine snow]

i'd heavily recommend using VoC

honestly infiltrate wasnt working for me

[subtle hornet]

Not even to health, TO TOUGHNESS

[pine snow]

no toughness is fine

you can take tougness damage

[subtle hornet]

Nope.

[pine snow]

u 100% can i took a few hits and got it

[edgy condor]

Would brutal momentum really be better than slaughterer on this?

[pine snow]

i just didnt take health damage

[subtle hornet]

Hmmmm....

[iron marten]

the penance can be done in malice iirc

just bring an mg12 and stay back

[pine snow]

i did a low intensity malice run using voc and recon lasgun

[swift ingot]

Bromentum can help hit bs on a good number of enemies via the push attack, but slaughterer is a much more safe and consistent option

[misty delta]

having an ogryn bodyguard also helps

[pine snow]

and a smite psyker

i was l ucky on my run and had 2 smite psykers

[midnight mortar]

Brutal momentum is a game changer for horde clearing and general damage, particularly for anti crusher push attacks.

It doesn't seem like much on paper, but in practice the boost is major.

Believe me, I used to prefer slaughterer too.

[edgy condor]

Thanks for the advice, I'm gonna swap slaughterer out for it and give a try, see how it feels then

[midnight mortar]

Try it with brutal momentum. The efficiency of clearing mixed hordes is noticeably easier.

And the ability to two tap crushers can't be understated assuming you have +25% carapace for the 1 push attack into overhead.

Need at least 1755 damage on your push attack headshot for the two tap potential with that specific combo.

Main benefit in hordes is that the flak armor on head bruisers/ragers don't cost any of your energized cleave so you apply more damage more efficiently. Delicious weakpoint damage.

[lilac sonnet]

the maelstrom modifier was fine. just these lowbies get the fuck back to malice/heresy and then come back. dont join a game you cant handle.

but yea thinking a high lvl friend is going to help... nah

[gritty mirage]

haha just had an ogryn like that in hi int auric shock troop damn

he was not holding his own at all

dude only completed all of heresy missions, not even normal damnation, and here you are in auric

[midnight mortar]

You love to see it.

[upper bramble]

I think Hadron killed my chainsword, was blue when I bought it

The stats were so pretty I had to try

[midnight mortar]

🧱

RIP

[upper bramble]

it's my only chainsword, I think I can probably make it work for not tier 5s, and I guess it does have crit synergy?

[spring spindle]

What cosmetic is that. That’s dope

[upper bramble]

But yeah, such a nice stat distribution gone to waste

[upper bramble]

probably a skin mod

[candid bridge]

anyone know a mod that lets you customize the reflex sight color by chance?

[spring spindle]

sad Xbox time

[stone birch]

am a bit anxious to see what changes they make to vet.

[tender inlet]

Queue a bunch of changes that seem good, but aren't, and then a shout nerf.

[small wraith]

shout probably needs a nerf

[ruby fulcrum]

Should absolutely should be nerfed lol. Even back to 50 toughness would still be incredible.

Would like to see infiltrate buffed and not need 3 to 4 additional points to be sorta decent...

[small wraith]

yeah 50 or even 25 would be fine if it prevents the bleed through still

[ruby fulcrum]

Yep

[small wraith]

I hope cooldown stays low because I like the voice lines

[ruby fulcrum]

Or they might nerf ironwill tbh... make voice of command increase your max toughness would also make it a lot more balanced

[small wraith]

and want to hear them frequently

[soft solstice]

I would be fine with an iron will nerf if we got buffed elsewhere, iron will is kind of one big defense talent

[cinder wadi]

Is there ever a weapon that uses terrifiying barrage, or is it an entirely useless blessing?

[ruby fulcrum]

I think it's a mid to decent talent without voc. With it though...

[ruby fulcrum]

I can't think of a single time I'd want it over almost anything else

[midnight mortar]

Well, it seems like they're sticking with the three playstyles defined by the current tree mostly.

[serene pagoda]

did this mission always had the "join us" audio during its final phase?

[midnight mortar]

Yes.

[upper bramble]

Not on release or even for a while after, or they made it louder

[serene pagoda]

oh

that explains it den

[midnight mortar]

They may have made it louder, but that audio was definitely there from when the map was added.

I remember playing it on day 1 of its launch.

[upper bramble]

They probably just made it a lot louder

[serene pagoda]

yeah but i always thought it was some incomprehensible speach.

[iron marten]

ye, it slowly went from heretical audio to imperium propaganda as it goes on

[stone birch]

I see. maybe they will make executioner stance be better. like its good, but it falters a bit due to ally stagger and most guns having a reload that kills its extended functionality. but personally i just wany my Helbore to stay good lol

[south garnet]

When I first heard it I thought it was because I had a lot of corruption and thought, that's a neat idea

Nah

[stone birch]

just level design

still cool

[serene pagoda]

i see

also
ump9>45

😎

[south garnet]

Yeah I like a little tlc with mission design

[iron marten]

heh

[upper bramble]

do the different catachans have different parry speeds and parry stamina costs?

[midnight mortar]

I don't believe so? Never looked at them myself though.

[upper bramble]

I have these 2 catachans I'm playing aroudn with, the mk 7 uses 11 stam per parry while the mk 1 uses 8 or 11 I think depending on whether the rager hits me twice or once during the parry animation. Also, I get hit a lot more trying to parry with the 7, can't tell if that's user error or not

[steel mantle]

this hurts me

[autumn perch]

anyone got that shout vet build

[dusk jacinth]

new pc only bundles out yet?

[queen fox]

what should i do?

[fallen geyser]

Melk rolled this for me!

ON MY FUCKIGN ZEALOT ARGH!!

[queen fox]

is agri hh any good?

[hollow ibex]

Don’t like

[tepid pagoda]

It's the worst of the three afaik

[latent parcel]

Which perk should switch?

[hoary valley]

is there any leaks to the new veteran tree?

or what the tweaks are ?

[cinder wadi]

I'm excited for vet keystones but isn't vet's tree already expensive af xd

[hoary valley]

wont it just depend on the keystones ?

cause arent they supposed to be this major buff by taking them ?

or is it just another talent like all the others ?

[cinder wadi]

Some of them can be very good

some of them could be shit

[upper bramble]

Keystones are much stronger than regular nodes most of the time, comparable to the ability and blitzes in strength

Sometimes they suck tho

[cinder wadi]

agreed

I just hope they make the tree lighter maybe

[hybrid river]

Blog post says that there are many changes and tweaks in addition to the keystones

[wooden geode]

I sacrifice this for the perk right?

[upper bramble]

It has bad stats and a tier 4 perk, that's ideal eats

[bitter wolf]

FINALLY

I got the karking On Overwatch penance!

[bitter wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/samuel-jackson-sleep-go-to-sleep-go-the-fuck-to-sleep-gif-5442067

[terse idol]

Mid blessing but it's a t4 blessing non the less

🥹

[terse idol]

I want to say + carapace but uh, I'd definetly get other vet opinions too

[stiff pasture]

Hopefully it comes with tweaks to the tree so I’m not bailing everything to pick a single node a column over

[hoary valley]

wait so when does that come out ?

[stray storm]

Neeeeeext week?

The week after that?

They didn’t specify say just “out in November”

[south garnet]

Next week next week

[serene bough]

What's this carnival thing

[stiff pasture]

New mission and new places to put the fear of god into heretics

[serene bough]

Ok thnx

[forest maple]

You're not missing much, only 1/3

Late november can still be early december

[merry oak]

The above average vet experience

Where did the meme channel go?

[strange grove]

lol what game is that?

[merry oak]

Arma 3 warhammer mod

[stiff pasture]

Dude really tried to sneak up on a guardsmen and got his shit ran

[bitter wolf]

How the hell does THAT happen

[rocky stratus]

bro is ass

that sounded much ruder than intended

[merry oak]

Space marines get reckless and do stupid stuff

Generally

[willow badger]

how is brauto btw

[sharp epoch]

agri good other bad

[gaunt hinge]

Still don't get why they have collat

[onyx urchin]

hellgun moment

[hoary valley]

im looking for a melee focused build, which melee best suits that. Im currently running power cycler but it feels weak during metal parts, any ideas to keep the cleave or the power sword but amp the metal damage up ?

[placid portal]

Which powersword MK you using?

[hoary valley]

6

[placid portal]

You could use Power Cycler + Brutal momentum blessing setup to ensure a One Two Hit Kill with push attack light to the head vs Maulers & Crushers

[jolly jacinth]

what should i fix?

the usual Flak + maniacs or fix the blessing?

let me check my blessings

[hollow turtle]

My sniper is complete

[jolly jacinth]

i heave deadly accuartae but not headhunter

[swift ingot]

I’m very excited to see what vets new keystones will be

Middle keystone better be WHC’s passive

That would be sick

[dusty rock]

memes channel got bonked ?

[swift ingot]

Yeah like with Ogryn where you can only take soften em up if you pick big bomba or box as your blitz but can’t take it if you pick rock

[jolly jacinth]

what kind of scope is that?

[hearty panther]

I mean, that's already where we are aren't we.

[wanton dawn]

I keep breaking my dmg record on no ammo maelstrom

This is probably the best mod to reach the million

[hoary valley]

does the chain sword cleave at all outside of the heavy attack? I have a nice one for the most part but it just feels like ass compared to power and im not fond of the power sword tbh

[swift ingot]

Just run wrath and the lights will cleave 5 dudes each

[hoary valley]

wait it does ?

[hollow turtle]

One of the recent ones added to the Weapon Customization mod.

[hoary valley]

So if I have chain with wrath on it it cleaves ?

[umbral scaffold]

he was so rude 😭

[swift ingot]

Yes

[swift ingot]

My favorite thing I’ve made using that mod

Aside from this of course

[hollow turtle]

Is that an Ogryn Duelling sword? XD Lol that's sick

[swift ingot]

Look at the name on the left

[hollow turtle]

"GREATsword"

[terse idol]

That dun look like a Veteran

[swift ingot]

The knife I’m using is also a mk4 so I can stab with it as well

[terse idol]

[spiral igloo]

overweight veteran

[swift ingot]

Not fat, it’s muscle

[stone birch]

the frustration of having to do crowd control and sniping elites/specialists and having to manage picking people back up as a sharp shooter build veteran is really stressful, and I can see why voice of command is popular. just shout at people to get back up and shoot the sniper lol.

[swift ingot]

Meh the revive addon isn’t really all that popular for VoC

[terse idol]

I mean eh

Voice without pickup is better

[swift ingot]

Correct

[terse idol]

The 33% is too much and you get way more value giving people 100 toughness again and again

[swift ingot]

I’d rather spam my shout 60 times a mission rather that hold it

[upper bramble]

You just don't need the dps boos from executioner

At least with some weapons

[terse idol]

Until I can see the shout keystones

I don't even grab the shout buff talent

[spiral igloo]

commissar build for veteran is great, just yell at people to stop being lazy and fight harder

[terse idol]

Because 5 second aint alot of time

[swift ingot]

And if it comes back quick enough you can stack it

I take agile engagement over taking that addon, but even when I did run it I got some pretty good use out of it since I was already spamming the shit out of my ability

[terse idol]

truth be told you want to run shout, and if you're picking up just take the pickup talent

[fallen geyser]

what should I do with this or is it a lost cause?

[stone birch]

Executioner stance with an infantry or helbore lasgun and relentless is great for easily blasting entire areas of elites and specialists off the map. Otherwise most guns either do not benefit from using executioner stance much from limited magazine capacity or individual bullet damage being too low to exploit. the PG just hits too hard to care about executioner stance. left side tree is honestly just the lasgun tree.

[swift ingot]

This is the build I’ve been running as of late and the ranged weapon I run with it

[terse idol]

You can make the semi auto head hunter worth it on left side

[spiral igloo]

how do you take a full screen picture of the talent builds?

[swift ingot]

It’s from the build maker on gameslantern

[spiral igloo]

ok thanks

[swift ingot]

[celest vine]

Change reload and ghost

Its very salvageable

[fallen geyser]

change ghost to what? Deadly accurate?

[celest vine]

Yes

[fallen geyser]

Kewl

[celest vine]

Headhunter and and deadly accurate leap frog off eachother hard

Change reload speed to flak then youre golden

[placid portal]

What they finally added scope

[fallen geyser]

Thanks 🙂

[edgy condor]

I’ve got the weapon customization mod, but it definitely doesn’t have full scopes. Was it updated very recently?

[hollow turtle]

Just today. About 3 hours ago.

[spiral igloo]

they are currently only on some autoguns

[hollow turtle]

No. That photo is on a helbore.

[placid portal]

zamn I gotta update it?

[spiral igloo]

oh then that new update should have given them to other weapons then

[elder vessel]

Thank you Hadron

[edgy condor]

Sweet, definitely gonna have to check that out then

[elder vessel]

Should I Add Flak or Carapace Damage?

[whole moon]

I'd see what you get overall first

[elder vessel]

Well I already slapped on power cycler

And my second perk was unarmoured damage

[whole moon]

I'd have tried out Cara instead of unarmoured and if that didn't work out went to flak

Heavy heavy heavy dance back n recharge. Rinse repeat

[elder vessel]

[open helm]

Gonna replace headhunter for faulter later

[placid portal]

[wooden oar]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-coffin-black-ghana-celebrating-gif-16743302

[placid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-racing-gif-26528796

[solar sky]

Just posted the gameplay commentary to go along with my revolver guide. If anyone wants to see the build in action, here you go!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn_pQSbULTg&t=1s

[slow spade]

Hadron has said "you're a MK6 user now"

saw Slaughter 4 on a blue and knew it was the one 😩

[elder vessel]

Got 2 Power Swords off Melk

Both had power cycler

neither was t4

the crafting systems truly captures the soul crushing atmosphere of 40K

[nimble sentinel]

fellas what's the credibility of running a MG IV with an autoclicker to fill the void left from the recon nerf?

[vagrant narwhal]

guns I should be trying out on veteran?

[elder vessel]

Plasma Gun

[nimble sentinel]

second on plasma

[elder vessel]

You can kill a shotgunner

And accidently kill his grandma

[glacial peak]

is bring it down unyelding or does it also is just every ogryn?

[nimble sentinel]

gaze upon the AI director giving you a wave of crushers and laugh as you melt them back into the warp