veteran-class

[clear tendon]

true

[dapper vessel]

You get it

1911 the greatest creation in history

[candid bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-square-pants-spongebob-cool-finger-guns-you-got-it-gif-3561703

[clear tendon]

"Instead of poor people, the Omnissiah has seen fit to increase this weapon's damage against the worshippers of chaos on Atoma. You will not notice a change in who your weapon is effective against."

[humble vault]

Mod

[empty creek]

https://tenor.com/view/pen-in-flames-umineko-writing-in-flames-flames-gif-20892510

[candid bridge]

If there’s one thing that’s stood the test of time it’s 40k it’s most certainly the 1911

[raw birch]

oh i just noticed that mod got updated

[gaunt hinge]

a mag fed stub pistol would be fire

[empty creek]

anybody got a link 2 the 3rd person mod ive been seeing

[marsh condor]

Hm...wait.

I am so dumb to not think about the Laspistol's overall design.

[empty creek]

1 of those mauser pistol things

[marsh condor]

It's literally a Mauser C96

[candid bridge]

Search “perspectives”

[empty creek]

im naked in my backyard hunting bears w/ my chunk of granite i cant look it up RN

[candid bridge]

That’s very specific and I’m here for it

[clear tendon]

I had a question about a niche perk interaction that i'm unsure if it counts

with Voice of Command, you can revive teammates

[zealous depot]

So, fellas

Shrouldfield's shit filter

[empty creek]

wrong, technically ur INSPIRING them 🤓

[zealous depot]

Or infiltrate rather

[clear tendon]

does the 33% damage reduction only apply to a manual revive, or does the INSPIRATION also give damage reduction

[zealous depot]

Anyone got a way to mitigate hitting f and getting boomer slimed from left form dead

Because I can't see in the soup

[empty creek]

it applies 2 VOC revives as well, yes

[clear tendon]

oh, nice

[languid escarp]

I want to know what they were smoking when they cut VoC cd by half

[umbral scaffold]

What is assist speed?

[marsh condor]

Oh yeah. I tried to use the bayonet with Trench Fighter.

[umbral scaffold]

Getting people out of nets?

[acoustic wyvern]

the time it takes to revive your ally

[marsh condor]

It didn't change the bayonet's speed.

[upper bramble]

how fast you pick someone up from nets and such I'd imagine

[acoustic wyvern]

nets too

or ledges

[upper bramble]

I would assume that is revive speed

[umbral scaffold]

Ok

Ledges and nets make sense

[clear tendon]

yeah, nets and ledges are assist speed iirc

[glacial peak]

does volley fire effect ranged weapon melee specials?

[umbral scaffold]

Doubt it?

[acoustic wyvern]

oh cause its 20 for both assist and revive so yknow. potato pohtahto

[marsh condor]

Lemme try

[acoustic wyvern]

wdym by ranged weapon melee specials

[clear tendon]

It really should just say like

"20% Speed for assisting incapacitated allies" or something

[upper bramble]

ranged weapon bashes

[marsh condor]

It does

[glacial peak]

bayonet attack on hellbore for example

[candid bridge]

Bayonets or bashes

[acoustic wyvern]

i tried that, didnt work. only for ranged fire

[upper bramble]

it definitely should not, keep the keywords and keep using them, I love keywords

[glacial peak]

huge

[marsh condor]

Bayonets for Helbore Lasguns, bashes for both Headhunter and Braced Autoguns.

[marsh condor]

Wait, I misread.

[languid escarp]

Stubby bashes too

[midnight patrol]

Is it true that Exhilarating Takedown is bugged?

[acoustic wyvern]

yes

[midnight patrol]

I heard- Oh.

No fucking wonder I go down like a sack of potatoes randomly lol

[acoustic wyvern]

yea it sucks if you're not a deadshot fan

[midnight patrol]

Time to save a point!

Although for real a bit annoyed.

[acoustic wyvern]

everyone should try hard to get iron will or confirm kill

[midnight patrol]

Its nice and easy to get on left tree

[acoustic wyvern]

makes your survival so much better in difficult games

yeaa

[languid escarp]

Iron will with 3 voice of command vet to have 100% uptime 🙏

[marsh condor]

Related to the Helbore Lasguns, I found out that you can sprint while holding the bayonet attack (at least the stabby one).

[midnight patrol]

Sometimes I do want to lean super heavily into my marksman Vet, VOC spam is nice, but its satisfying being able to down 90+ enemy shooter and 30+ ranged specials in a hi intensity Heresy

[glacial peak]

anyway i ask because i know point blank barrage lets you apply burn stacks with ranged weapon melee attacks

[marsh condor]

And then charge at a heretic

[languid escarp]

I mean

You can see enemies do that too

[candid bridge]

Yeah mk2 lets you charge, others are overhead yops

[marsh condor]

Wait, others? I thought only the "heavy" one does that.

[languid escarp]

Only for an Ogryn to stand in front of you for 5 seconds

[candid bridge]

Mk1 is a bayonet charge as well? Thought it was only mk2

[marsh condor]

Anyway, in terms of melee, which Helbore Lasguns is the best?

[midnight patrol]

.. Yes that happens often lol

[languid escarp]

Shooter stance biggest weakness is allies

[glacial peak]

im leveling a vet rn and brought a 30% damage hellbore 3 to t3 and it wasn't killing shit with the gun but the bayonet went hard

was one shotting shotgunners and ragers with it

[marsh condor]

Like, which Helbore Lasgun is the best at bayonet combat?

[zealous depot]

What's the current must have or die toughness talent? I keep forgetting and dying

[zealous depot]

The strike down one is fun but the animation feels kinda icky

[dapper vessel]

Iron will and Confirmed Kill

Catch a Break if you want to have your toughness up at all times

[languid escarp]

Iron Will is nice but isnt it overkill

I feel like most of the time it end up wasted

[zealous depot]

Iron will is down the middle tree towards the bottom yeah?

[languid escarp]

Yeah

[zealous depot]

Damn that fucker is hard to splash

What I wouldn't give for a few node lines around there

[tall torrent]

It’s a great insurance especially if you take VoC as ur ability

[marsh condor]

I'm gonna try making a build where my only means of meleeing is the bayonet.

[tall torrent]

I use this, can modify on ur preferences

[wanton dawn]

ironwill is a 25% increase of your effective thoughness

And that is not considering the effect of yellow thoughness or regen

[celest vine]

This build is pretty competent

[zealous depot]

I don't take voc very often

[celest vine]

250 effective toughness with a health, toughness, and wound curio

[zealous depot]

Currently I'm trying to make smoke bomb volly fire not crumple

[wanton dawn]

In any case, vet thoughness DR is very effective on anything that is not flamer and bomber

[zealous depot]

I think I can squeak iron will tho

[celest vine]

If a flamer does anything you kill it then shout

[languid escarp]

Not taking the crack grenade is heresy

[dusty ferry]

Just having 200 Toughness and having the 50% reduction on 75%+ toughness lets me tank a poxburster without losing health

[celest vine]

Shredder and krak are equal

[dusty ferry]

Vet DR is nuts

[celest vine]

[zealous depot]

Real talk volly fire is classic that's what it will always be named in my head

[tall torrent]

Frag is significantly more versatile

[dusty ferry]

^

[zealous depot]

Executioners stance goes hard tho

[celest vine]

This

[zealous depot]

Even my infiltrate runs frag

[celest vine]

5 bleed stack at range is so goof

[umbral scaffold]

I find krak useful if you don’t have means to handle armoured elites

[celest vine]

[wanton dawn]

Vet DR being all tied to its thoughness means that any specialist catching you in flame is an instant down

[dusty ferry]

Frag is very versatile, krak is good to take down big targets or do good single damage but otherwise

[tall torrent]

If I could squeeze the points I’d go for close order drill + demo team for toughness DR & 5% nade regain

[zealous depot]

I like to pretend I'm fallout pickpocketing heretics with ol fraggy

[celest vine]

If you get cornered throw your frags at your feet, 15 bleed stacks on a hoard is not survivable

[umbral scaffold]

Frag just answers a lot of chaff and mixed hordes

[tall torrent]

Frag gives u the answer to rager spam

[zealous depot]

It's the ogryn pick up of grenades

[acoustic wyvern]

when you run auric missions, you'll understand why krak is very important or why nade builds are always good

[wanton dawn]

Frags is more versatile than krak in general

[frank ledge]

[dusty ferry]

Real. Ragers? Maulers? Frag.

It helps so much

[frank ledge]

I miss Darcy, made this chat not borin

[zealous depot]

Krak makes a better noise though

[umbral scaffold]

Yeahh

[languid escarp]

Usually I just quick switch to revolver to stagger them for easy kill

[celest vine]

Plasma gun does even better

[umbral scaffold]

That’s the real winner on krak

[south pelican]

whats like a good dmg build for auric rn?

[zealous depot]

Plasma gun isn't a grenade

[umbral scaffold]

The audio fun

[zealous depot]

Er I mean

[wanton dawn]

There is a ton of good dmg build for auric

[zealous depot]

Isn't supposed to be

[celest vine]

I know its even better

[zealous depot]

I love krak because it's just a plasma grenade

[dusty ferry]

I should run krak more

[tall torrent]

Revolver can deal with 1-3 ragers fine
5 ragers plus shooters is tough

[acoustic wyvern]

krak stuns bosses too

[celest vine]

And a poxwalker hoard

[wanton dawn]

If rager give you trouble get a PS

[zealous depot]

I can't wait for late stage darktide modding when we have model and effect replacers

[tall torrent]

Frag also staggers bosses and interrupts their current attack

[celest vine]

Two frags the poxwalkers are dead

[zealous depot]

I want to throw a plasma grenade at a horse of squidwards

I want it now

[trim steppe]

Is Exhilarating Takedown bugged? Has anyone tested?

[tall torrent]

Yes, don’t use

[wanton dawn]

Ranged wise, rager get also destroyed by brauto

[zealous depot]

Which monstrosity would make the best Shrek? Plague boy right?

[celest vine]

Yeah but lasguns are better

[wanton dawn]

I prefer my weapon to have impact

[celest vine]

Chainsword with bloodletter is good for the two carapace armored enemies in the game

[zealous depot]

What are you doing in my swammmp! As the boss music cuts in

[celest vine]

Outright killing them is better than stagger

[zealous depot]

Depends on your sense of humor

[wanton dawn]

Implying lasgun actually kills better

[languid escarp]

Pox Burster likes this

[fluid escarp]

question, is the penance where you have to replenish 5000 ammo to allies with scavenger bugged atm?

[zealous depot]

I like live leaking someone with the crusher

[tall torrent]

Yes

[fluid escarp]

nice

[celest vine]

I will continue to dhoot the burster to troll the zealot

Its funny to me

[zealous depot]

And then cringe behind your mask knowing the zealot will live the hit and you might not have

[wanton dawn]

I can remember the last time i was impressed by lasgun plays in auric, and it was in p12

[celest vine]

MG12 moment

[zealous depot]

Jesus you shot his other eye out

[celest vine]

Why stagger the reaper when two puts them down?

[wanton dawn]

Reaper get 2 shot by almost half our guns

[zealous depot]

At risk for gun psyker I see

Drugs are bad bismarck

[tall torrent]

A lot of guns can crank out 3800~4000 dps against reaper rn lol

They’re the weakest elite enemy against veterans

[wanton dawn]

Showcasting big damage on reaper is like saying that IAG is a good antiboss weapon cuz you can quickly kill spawn with headshot

[clear tendon]

this feels like the most backhanded thing i've ever gotten from the emperor

[true bramble]

If i use my plasma gun for elite, specials etc, what do i put on my power sword? +25% dmg unarmored and what else?

[celest vine]

Iags are busted for console

[glacial peak]

we gamble those

[clear tendon]

oh, i absolutely am sending this thing to gold cause if i can save it

[celest vine]

Lucius two tapping crusher however

[clear tendon]

its my new shovel

[glacial peak]

you can fix her i believe

[celest vine]

https://tenor.com/view/so-i've-heard-gif-1899418861963210299

[glacial peak]

well did you gamble correct?

[celest vine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850857508389519430/1171196702418534473/speed-2-2.gif?ex=655bcced&is=654957ed&hm=3da1c85add163f3f5d64659ae0d122c097dc57cc8062b432dea3d44372611853&

[tall torrent]

So IAGs are not good at all vs bosses?

[celest vine]

What platform do you play

[clear tendon]

oh, i am very poor on plasteel cause of upgrading my revolver, i'll have to grind some more

[tall torrent]

Why does that matter

[candid bridge]

charges plasma gun up with religious intent

[rocky stratus]

can i salvage this

[celest vine]

Cause Xbox IAGs have a buff

Theres nothing wrong with playing console theyre 40k fans that are insulting you

[wanton dawn]

It is serviciable. Not great but you cannot expect to reliably hit headshot on all boss

[rocky stratus]

so

[celest vine]

Except xbox

Theyre busted

[tall torrent]

Yea that’s fair, I just didn’t find them particularly bad if I get to shoot weakpoints

[rocky stratus]

should i replace vicious slice with shred or rampage and change the melee weak spot damage
or ignore the perks and just change the two blessings

[glacial peak]

its not looking good chief

[celest vine]

Bullet magnetism

[clear tendon]

i feel like this is heresy

[celest vine]

[rocky stratus]

I really want the 374 😔

[celest vine]

Nah consoles got more than aquilas

[glacial peak]

god thats fucking cursed

[celest vine]

People just dont know it yet

[clear tendon]

like, you're gonna get bolt pistoled in the back of the head if commissar saw it

[celest vine]

💀💀

[tall torrent]

That’s funny but on pc you can just hit ur shots so I don’t rly have issues with that

It’s a pve game

[candid bridge]

It’s usable till a better one

[midnight patrol]

Funny. It took me level 30ing pysker to finally know that each class had its roles. Finally played as Vet again, this time I hard focused on every shooter that my psykers couldn't managed while they horde cleared

[clear tendon]

i suffer that little bit more as a pc controller player 😔

[celest vine]

If the game aimbots to headshots all the time for me its good

[midnight patrol]

I think if I keep the squad this alive I'll keep leaning into this

[finite carbon]

What are good perks for plasma gun? They still flak/maniac?

[candid bridge]

Change out vicious and replace weakspot with maniac or flak

[glacial peak]

it is still usable yeah just throw rampage savage sweep on it

[celest vine]

I think you can get carpace in there

[glacial peak]

it will be ok till you get one you can actually roll perks on

[midnight patrol]

I used to have the very bad habit of trying to focus down smaller horde rushes with my guns when I should be keeping my other teammates unmolested by gunfire hmm.

[tall torrent]

And this is not like that crazy cuz you’re not getting the bullets to hit near full headshots

[finite carbon]

Carapace instead of flak?

[celest vine]

Plasma gun already does enough to 1 hit flak enemies

So carapace lets you effectively kill crushers

[finite carbon]

Ahhh, right

I'll alright, I'll test that out, thamk

[celest vine]

I think maulers may he an exception

[grizzled pebble]

Smol hobo vs gigachad.

[celest vine]

But the heads of maulers are carapace armor so

[clear tendon]

5'11 vs 6'0

[umbral scaffold]

Idk why people made a big deal about ugly female characters in this game, I think majority of them can look great in their own way :)… just gotta learn how to do Barbie is all

[finite imp]

whats the shotgun meta currently

[umbral scaffold]

Depends on the class

And traits

[finite imp]

welp

[umbral scaffold]

Rn for my vet sniper I like slug

[finite imp]

this looks like the vet channel

lol

[umbral scaffold]

Slug seems to be the go two as it got good ammo

And is well rounded Even for veteren

[finite imp]

yeah i mean what blessings i love the agri shotty

[umbral scaffold]

I don’t know off the top of my head

[zealous wyvern]

sure

[umbral scaffold]

Wanna do close range only go for the usual double layered death version for more damage, maniacs and I’d say do flak

[zealous wyvern]

good luck barbieng half of those

[umbral scaffold]

If your a ranger then do FULLBORE

[zealous wyvern]

[finite imp]

this is what im working with

[umbral scaffold]

Oh yeah really good man just change Crit chance to flak

[still flare]

I'd def go full bore cause it procs when you hit anything with slug

[zealous wyvern]

to barbie.... barbying?

barbyieng

barbieying

barbying looks the best

[finite imp]

yerash full bore is a given

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah I’m just not a shotty expert mroe so Helbore kinda guy

[finite imp]

but swap with what hit and run?

[umbral scaffold]

It depends

If you wanna just rush

And not care about cover

It’s the best

[finite imp]

I play damnation so no

i dont rush lol

[umbral scaffold]

Gotcha then yeah go FULL bore and remove chance with flak dmsage

Boom god roll

[upper bramble]

if you get lucky twice it'll be good

[finite imp]

need more plasteel to refine

dang it

off for a wnoter one

[still flare]

Ye I'd prolly keep deathspitter and exchange hit/run for full bore and go maniac/flak

Or maniac/unyielding to do dummy boss damage

Cause I think you can still 1-tap reapers without it

Could be wrong tho

[umbral scaffold]

My problem is money

[finite imp]

play damnation

[umbral scaffold]

Being spending too much on mk1 helbores

[finite imp]

i have 450k

[umbral scaffold]

Can’t get a 380

[finite imp]

ah that sucks

[umbral scaffold]

Same rn

[still flare]

It's plasteel for me 😭 I'm sitting on 2.6 mil ordo but spend plasteel constantly lol

[stiff helm]

What the heck is power cycler

[umbral scaffold]

Was in the 1mill

It’s easy to get money

[finite imp]

i just use anytrhing over 350 tbh

[umbral scaffold]

Perk for power swords

Gives you 1-2 extra charges on your energy swings

[finite imp]

which is goofy strong

[stiff helm]

I've never even seen it and I keep hearing how cracked it is- oh

[finite imp]

like hyyuk

[umbral scaffold]

Best is to do it in stages

Got alreayd 350 boost it up to then 360 then 370 that’s what I am doing g

[stiff helm]

Yeah that explains why my sword feels doodoo compared to when I see others use it

[umbral scaffold]

My first 380 was a god roll club on my Ogryn

[stiff helm]

So gotta get block and Stam up, and a power cycler

[umbral scaffold]

It’s decent but the problem is the gimmick is the power swing

[stiff helm]

Unpowered it feels like a wet noodle

[umbral scaffold]

But it’s fine for now if anything it’s just a nerf to melee for vet to not be better over zealot

[umbral scaffold]

Depends on your perks yeah

If you do get one

I prefer Pcycle and Momentum

Thing turns into a stiff light saber

XD

[still flare]

I still like slaughterer on PS cause once you get a few stacks even the unpowered swings can be pretty good in a horde

[stiff helm]

I normally play ogryn and zealot so vet after getting their durability nerfed (played on launch and came back for p13) feels weird

[still flare]

Or start one hitting a lot of other stuff in mixed hordes

[umbral scaffold]

I feel slaughter is best advised if you’re not with P cycle

Cause the damage helps to counter act the thing

But doesn’t mean it won’t work

[still flare]

Yeah I'm stuck with PS 3 still

[umbral scaffold]

Just feels like overkill if you rely heavily on it

[still flare]

Power cycler* 3

[umbral scaffold]

Oh I remember people spent mills to get the roles for PCycle 4

This server was just all the crave for that

Same with god roll Bolter

[elder relic]

FARRK

[elder relic]

legit is that what it takes to get a auric worthy weapon

[charred epoch]

Anyone on and wanna grind out some weekly’s?

[strong halo]

Is shovel any good?

[trim steppe]

You can take a profane into auric if you know what to do with it

[still flare]

I was lucky with bolter and had that god rolled like basically in the beta lol

But truth be told I don't run PS in Solo's much. I have to change play style completely between solo and with a party

[umbral scaffold]

Tried it, got a attack speed buff

Swings faster so yeah

[robust mirage]

Nah even okay weapons can work on auric how you play is 99% ofcif the run succeeds or bot

[umbral scaffold]

Want a decent weapon similar to a devil claw and an axe

Since it can roll brittle

[sharp ember]

you could perform just as well with a chainsword which isn't nearly as expensive/difficult to build

[umbral scaffold]

I dotn run it much as I’m still trying to make my devils work as I love the counter it can do

Helps with ragers

[still flare]

Chainsword is legit, a great balanced option tbh

[umbral scaffold]

But the issue rn is that it works and doesn’t work in terms of its parry’s

It can block but still gives damage

Sometimes

[elder relic]

so what curios are ideal, since youre tyyna not get hit would stamina be more crucial than wounds/health?

and ofc block efficiency

[still flare]

Curios imo are pretty free form. Icing on the cake in my view, and depend on how you play

[celest vine]

It’s versatile

With boss killing potential

[glacial peak]

ok vet chat i have questions because im leveling one now after like 100 levels on a zealot and 60 on an ogryn. what do i need todo to not die and how do i navigate your tree because that bottom part phyiscally hurts to look at.

[sharp ember]

i take a combination of toughness regen, stam regen, toughness, and sniper resist

[trim steppe]

On my vet I usually take 2 hp curios and a +3 stam. I don't take block efficiency cuz I don't block very much. 3 hp perks, 1-2 perks to both sniper and gunner res, 1 to corruption res, 2 to stam Regen. That's what I like to run but a lot of stuff works, it's more preference than anything

[sharp ember]

and one +3 stam curio

[elder relic]

thanks noted

[candid bridge]

Is the empowered activation block cancel only for mk6?

[rocky stratus]

hello all my fellas

[still flare]

LOL basically don't take any bottom talents. The bottom left one can be situationally good to hit certain breakpoints and can proc a lot with shout ability

[umbral scaffold]

It depends on your fire arms, and play style

[still flare]

Voice of command is really good for survivability

[rocky stratus]

what’s the best chainaxe perks and blessings and modifier distribution

[umbral scaffold]

Want to do snipging go for weak spot

Want to do general damage middle tree

[elder relic]

do you need stamina to dodge more or is dodge not affected by stam?

[umbral scaffold]

Want to do flank dmsage go hard right

[still flare]

Confirmed kill and/or Iron will (bottom part of center tree) are your best survival nodes

[glacial peak]

i did want to go shout vet because it gives merc v2 energy

[sharp ember]

for best survivability, Confirmed Kill + Iron Will in the lower-middle column is almost mandatory

[celest vine]

Left for shooty

Right for stabby

Middle for tanky

[elder relic]

i found it hell of a alot easier than the left ability

[sharp ember]

and yeah it combos great with shout overheal

[still flare]

Basically all of your builds should have some of that lower middle tree

[trim steppe]

Close order drill at the top, and then most of the stuff in the bottom middle is great and gets you to rending strikes which is also great. Shout ability with the +100 toughness to teammates is overtuned and strongest atm

[candid bridge]

Is the empowered activation block cancel only for mk6?

[glacial peak]

if i don't take survivalist am i a bad person?

[trim steppe]

Yes the mk3 doesn't charge on block at all

[still flare]

Imo it's by far the best aura and you're trolling if you don't take it lol

[trim steppe]

Yes

[still flare]

3% damage is only acceptable if you're avoiding a point tax

And even then it's not great

[glacial peak]

yeah thats what i mean

[sharp ember]

you'd only not take Survivalist if you're purely greeding a path for more skill points, which is funny

[surreal crown]

The heck did I just roll?

[raw birch]

what do u guys think of this bad boy

https://i.imgur.com/H0IhGad.png

[sharp ember]

OR, you have friend vets who will take it for you

[elder relic]

just dont bother go after enemies further than 30 meters

[trim steppe]

Nice! Try not to steal all the ammo lol

[elder relic]

i mean shoot at

[glacial peak]

i know the other 2 auras are garbage but like i feel like you need to sell a kidney to get the skills you want sometimes and honestly the ammo kidney is looking real sellable

[still flare]

Yeah vet survivalist is basically mandatory though. All it takes is one or two ammo hungry varlets to steal an ammo pack that wasn't intended for them and suddenly the team is rationing lol

[elder relic]

the kick even braced is pretty monstrous

[sharp ember]

WAIT GUARDSMEN, LOOK IN #🐦tweets-sermons

[umbral scaffold]

Me not taking survivalist so I can give people damage on shout, RNG damage on hordes, easily get good and refundable grenades and buff my consumable packs

[rocky stratus]

hey guys is this good

[celest vine]

All our builds are worthless

Keystones are coming

[trim steppe]

Demolition team doesn't give nades to allies anymore

[celest vine]

[umbral scaffold]

I'm talking the funny 60s grenade, blessed be its name

[raw birch]

wtf is a keystone

[celest vine]

I think its a new feature

[umbral scaffold]

purple talent

[celest vine]

I wouldnt know

💀

Ask darcy

[still flare]

I'm a vet, I avoid bottoms of trees

[umbral scaffold]

You are the bottom

[still flare]

No clue what a "keystone" is

[forest hornet]

question is what will the keystones do

[bronze trout]

I think

[forest hornet]

need deets

[finite imp]

yeah this shotgun is a fucking torpedo launcher

[bronze trout]

They help us shoot guns

[candid bridge]

It’s a stone that looks like a key

[sharp ember]

for every other class except vet, keystones are special purple talents at the bottom of skilltrees that give them special mechanics that can be upgraded with more nodes

[still flare]

I run demo stockpile on everything, I think it's too useful to not

[sharp ember]

veterans will get them soon

[umbral scaffold]

Stockpile is goated

[broken crag]

if they don't fix our penance i am going to shit

[silver monolith]

I don't know who needs to hear this but...

DON'T USE WOUND CURIOS, USE HEALTH FTLOG

[rocky stratus]

anyone 😔

please 😔

[umbral scaffold]

It's a chainaxe

[sharp ember]

no

[acoustic wyvern]

chance for 1 bullet to deal 50% more dmg

[umbral scaffold]

I'm sorry you rolled one, friend

[gaunt hinge]

[sharp ember]

rip bloodletter off though

[sharp epoch]

NEW KEYSTOEWNS

[still flare]

Ye, I'm not much of a chain axe guy. I got a good one as an emperor gift and wasn't impressed

Maybe someone can educate me, but what edge does it have on anything else?

[median hemlock]

What's a better perk perk to have on the Vraks VII Headhunter: unarmored or unyielding? Deciding to see which one I'll switch out for flak.

[dusty ferry]

Vet keystones vet keystones owowwowowowoww

[umbral scaffold]

If I was to make a chainaxe, which I have, I'd slap thrust and slaughterer

[acoustic wyvern]

its a niche boss killer

[candid bridge]

Where is this from?

[forest hornet]

Alright everyone! Time to theory out the new keystones based on some blurry pixelated images! 😄

[sharp epoch]

it used to be semi best chain weapon with slaughterer then they nerfed slaughterer

[umbral scaffold]

Chainaxe is the vet equivalent of thunder hammer

[gaunt hinge]

#📢news-bulletin

[forest maple]

Take a look at what brunt is selling... TIER 1 headhunter

[celest flax]

Veterans have won today

[still flare]

Does it kill faster than a chain sword would?

[celest flax]

New Veteran tree incoming

[rocky stratus]

I ALREADY HAVE LVL4 BLOODLETTER

[still flare]

Ah ok

[rocky stratus]

game trash

[tight dragon]

worth trying?

[umbral scaffold]

Chainsword is incredibly goated at the moment, so nah

[sharp epoch]

just use chainsword if u want they perform same function

[still flare]

That's what I was thinking

[tawdry hull]

new kidneystonesss

[celest flax]

Darktide players love kidney stones

[gritty mirage]

ive had kidney stones twice, do not recommend

[acoustic wyvern]

yes

[fathom grail]

hell yea

[gritty mirage]

grow them big enough for ogryn to throw

[umbral scaffold]

Right now with the way I set up my talent tree, to get survivalist I'd need to lose the team damage on ult, 15% toughness, 10% rending and born leader

[gaunt hinge]

hmm, update coming november

[gritty mirage]

nice sword, now let Hadron touch sword

[tawdry hull]

u serve the emperor by growing stones for the ogryns

[gaunt hinge]

part 2 coming december

[umbral scaffold]

And if I didn't want to lose born leader because I basically eat anything that glows red for breakfast, I'd give up on the revive shout that really saves the day when needed

[hybrid river]

Hmm, now I may be wrong, but I think left is for sharpshooting, middle is support, and right is combined arms

[sharp ember]

guessing from the icons:

• headshot/sniping keystone
• coherency buffing keystone
• gun and melee keystone, with further nodes to lean into either

the guessers

[umbral scaffold]

The rest is screwing stockpile or the funny grenade ammo box, because the other other thing I have is the weakspot buff that allows me to one-hit all but one specials

They accidentally made a nice tree with tradeoffs

[gaunt hinge]

now enhance the part 2 image, unblur!

[supple hamlet]

anyone got a Heavy laspistol build for veteran?
Something like a comisar

[sharp epoch]

are we gonna get clown zombies

[sharp ember]

also that trailer music, freaking banger inbound

[tight dragon]

might as well try to get a power cycler 4 from it i guess

[oblique horizon]

Track is Nightsider on official OST

[still flare]

They don't miss with the music

[spring spindle]

So Vet’s getting keystones

[oblique horizon]

I wondered when we would finally hear it ingame so I suppose thats when.

[spring spindle]

Very nice

[acoustic wyvern]

alot faster

[sharp ember]

i wager a lot of redundant nodes are gonna get culled to make room for these keystones

[still flare]

Even now? That's a solid use for it if it's a good boss killer. Is there a blessing combo that does this best?

I could use a boss killing melee 👀

[finite imp]

knife with bleed stacks

[still flare]

True

[acoustic wyvern]

uh there is but really its useful for 1v1 or boss killing

[finite imp]

bleed on bosses is good

[acoustic wyvern]

thrust and headtaker

[midnight patrol]

All the reload perks

[safe vector]

(Ignore the damage) But with these two blessings, bosses and monsters just get fucking mulched

[finite imp]

lol the shotty already reloads good

[midnight patrol]

And focus on weakpoints and crit talents

[still flare]

Ohhh thrust with rev attacks could be nice

[midnight patrol]

It helps trust me

[sharp ember]

I personally recommend a chainsword with Bloodletter and Unyielding perk, same effect but more nimble to still be useful against trash

[spring spindle]

14 stacks? Man I need to try Chain axe now

[acoustic wyvern]

yess it kills crushers in 2 hits

[hollow turtle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEjjHsofdTg

[midnight patrol]

The Agri shotgun is a very reliable anti shooter gun even without headshots

[finite imp]

Behold

[hollow turtle]

Red light district here we go!

[acoustic wyvern]

and reapers in 1 hit

[oblique horizon]

Actually nevermind, thats not nightsider. Its a very similar but different track huh

[safe vector]

Please know, horde-clear is ass. You're gonna be hella reliant on the shove-attack, and the heavies.

[still flare]

Mmmm I'm never really meleeing reapers anyway. And chainsword can do that too, and is more useful in horde

[midnight patrol]

Quite similar to mine, I swapped out Deathspitter for flechette on mine

[finite imp]

dont has flechette yet

[still flare]

But the thrust for boss killing could be funny

[acoustic wyvern]

yeaa, hence why the chain axe is a very niche weapon atm

[spring spindle]

I only really use melee situationally so I’m cool with that. I really only pull it out in emergency

[south garnet]

Alright time to stop bothering with new builds for the next 2 weeks I guess

[oblique horizon]

Yeah

[midnight patrol]

Flechette allows you to have hilarious number of bleed stacks when you come across monstrosities

You do like 200+ damage a second while you're reloading

[safe vector]

Chainaxe is nowhere near reliable for "Oh Shit" moments. So have caution.

[still flare]

Depending on how much it is. Problem with thrust in my experience is that unless it's a realllly powerful burst you may as well do 2 uncharged heavies

Or if the target is a boss

[south garnet]

We'll see how borked the new tree is

[still flare]

I'm excited for new tree

[gusty sonnet]

I mean chaxe is alright for the malice- gamers i guess. Wouldnt ever bring it on damn+ though

[surreal mountain]

Vet update soon :)

[south garnet]

Hopefully it's more of a reorg than a rework

[spring spindle]

Infiltrate helps with that also though.

I just see funny axe and want

[still flare]

I hope they give some damage reduction to stance, or give ways to buff it's power while in stance

[surreal mountain]

I hope they had fun making Veteran a bit better

[south garnet]

The nodes present are mostly fine, it just badly needs to be reshuffled and probably just get rid of the shitty cap nodes at the end entirely

[oblique horizon]

Yeah, maybe some buffs too

Please put survivalist aura in center

For the love of Emperor

[sharp ember]

in the preview pic, the middle cap node got culled

[midnight patrol]

Make Ex Stance tree more survivable for one

Gotta compete with shout and infil tree

[south garnet]

Keystones will be interesting. Honestly survivalist should either be on every vet by default or just be eliminated entirely

[hollow turtle]

There are some people here who would argue against that.

[south garnet]

Yea I've seen the vocal theorizing ha

[glacial peak]

im really really hoping they have nodes that branch between the capstones

[hollow turtle]

I'm a little confused on some opinions. Some say remove it, some say don't, and all I'm thinking is, "Its not VT2. We can't stay in our melee 95% of the time.

[south garnet]

Or make it +50% ammo from pickups or something

[sharp ember]

3 kickback ogryns and their survivalist vet mule

[oblique horizon]

Id say it should stay. Some weapons will really suffer without it

[hollow turtle]

I am more than happy to be their bullet mule.

[sharp ember]

yeah just rebalance the ammo economy around not having one class supply loads of ammos

[south garnet]

Or make it so you start with an ammo crate

[queen fox]

i feel like survivalist should be a perk that applies only to the vet

[sharp ember]

and it being a slog when you don't have that one guy

[tall torrent]

Edited a vid from someone here yesterday

[hollow turtle]

Lol loved that anime.

In this case, isn't he the dreg gunner though?

[tall torrent]

No yellow clothing
Wears full body armor

[queen fox]

is that guy using an mg34 with power armor

[safe vector]

If only we could get the chaingun from this art

[hollow turtle]

lol fair.

I just want a full carapace helmet with the goggles.

[oblique horizon]

Hopefully part 2 update brings new guns and weapon variants

[hollow turtle]

What guns we thinking?

(Lol)

[oblique horizon]

Hmm, some sort of LMG? Longlas? Thats being realistic.

[dusty ferry]

To me it seems like a braced or infantry autogun with BIG DAKA

[sharp ember]

i need a heavy as hell backpack volleygu-

[oblique horizon]

No karking way

I missed that

Hellguns?

[dusty ferry]

HELLGUNS

[oblique horizon]

Please dont be just teasing. I really want a hellgun

[hollow turtle]

Lol tag FatsharkCatshark and confirm.

[midnight patrol]

Isn't this just Ogrgn chat?

[hollow turtle]

Bring them in for trial

[sharp ember]

not confirmed, but catshark personally suggesting it in our stead raises hopes a lot

[hollow turtle]

Should've also asked them for Longlas

[sharp ember]

let our wants be known

[tall torrent]

Saw this vid in veteran chat yesterday

[hollow turtle]

#RestoreVeteranRangedDominance

[hybrid river]

It’s a 42, and he’s a panzer cop from Jin Roh

[midnight patrol]

I had a match an hour back where I really leaned into my job as anti shooter with Ex stance

If we just had a bit more survivability perks in the left tree, the Marksman tree wouldn't be so bad

[sharp ember]

other than have a long range scope what would a longlas do that a mk3 helbore wouldn't

[hollow turtle]

Lol that's exactly what all vets were before the big rework. Anti Elite/Specials. Sometimes ogryns/monsters.

[gusty sonnet]

Whats so special about hellguns?

[hollow turtle]

The BRRT

[south garnet]

Vets currently exist to carry band aids and bullets

[sharp ember]

backpack power cable, no reloads necessary, more firepower

[hollow turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/brrrrt-bret-a10-warthog-gif-18817481

[south garnet]

And occasionally swat flies

[sharp ember]

https://tenor.com/view/ghostbusters-throw-it-bring-it-on-shoot-it-gif-16279346

[hybrid river]

Well they would penetrate carapace armor for one, hellguns specifically are like the Machine gun version of las guns

[sharp ember]

4 scab gunners with hellguns

[hollow turtle]

I'd assume just to balance it, its damage output would be low.

as it maintains role of suppression.

[midnight patrol]

He'll guns are similar to what the Scab gunner uses

[umbral scaffold]

YES

[midnight patrol]

Backpack powered heavy lasguns

[umbral scaffold]

Please make supp usefull

[midnight patrol]

To avoid stepping on the Ogryn's toes, ours would less be a machine-gun and more an anti-material rifle

[gusty sonnet]

Ty guys

[south garnet]

Lasguns that could actually possibly deal with carapace

[sharp ember]

i'd like them to deal solid damage, but be prohibitively unwieldy to equip or basically need you to stand still to control accurately

[hollow turtle]

Lol then we get a full squad of veterans rolling with walking hellguns.

https://tenor.com/view/jin-roh-robot-creepy-gif-12714379

[left patrol]

they hate us so much

[hybrid river]

Tempestus scions

[midnight patrol]

With Shout? Yeah I can see us being that tanky

Although I'll be honest. Its when I played Psyker till lvl 30 did I truly appreciate their role

[safe vector]

So long as I get the melta-gun soon™️ Ill be alright.

[midnight patrol]

Leave ranged trash mob clearing to them. We are counter rifleman

[left patrol]

we wont

[hollow turtle]

THIS

[finite imp]

The fact it's there is going to create enormous pressure on them to make it a reality

[robust mirage]

Are we talking volley guns or hellguns or w/e the name for the heavy variant of the lasrifle is that th scions and karkasin use?

[limpid dew]

https://youtu.be/aEjjHsofdTg?si=GPm-VQJaPXRzgaYC

On the way

Pog

[south garnet]

That only works when people do actually clean trash unfortunately

[limpid dew]

[south garnet]

But ideally yea

[sharp ember]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[hollow turtle]

Red Light District update

[limpid dew]

Keystones inbound for part 1

New zone

New mission

[hollow turtle]

Lol valid point. Always need variation.

[limpid dew]

[scenic bronze]

Nov 30th right?

[bronze trout]

Any indication of actually getting hellguns or are people on the hopium?

[south garnet]

Having people bitch at you for not taking out specials while you're busy covering your own ass from a mob that walked up and nobody confronted is lol

[limpid dew]

Idk

[midnight patrol]

Yeah, luckily had two psykers and a zealot that did their work very well. And I enabled them yo do it by mopping up all rifleman

[limpid dew]

Didn’t see a release date

[sharp ember]

november SOMETIME

[limpid dew]

Just says November yeah

[sharp ember]

soon ™️

[midnight patrol]

Although I did use the 'enemies here' tag a lot

[scenic bronze]

They specified a year though? Right?

[limpid dew]

Probably within a week

[south garnet]

Next week

[sharp ember]

my gut says 2 weeks

[midnight patrol]

Since my head was on a swivel

[scenic bronze]

right?

[hollow turtle]

They usually turn around to find me gunning down the specials that are spawning behind us.

[limpid dew]

[bronze trout]

No date indicates the absolute end of November

[left patrol]

i sincerely doubt itll be anytime soon

[left patrol]

the vanguard set releases the 17th so i can only logically imagine then

[hybrid river]

Hotshots are the semi auto version, hellguns are the full auto

[left patrol]

but fatshark doesnt always act logically

[sharp ember]

we're on the hopium train because catshark is personally sending our suggestion request to the devs

[midnight patrol]

Yeaaaah

[south garnet]

Seeing your teammates turn around in a panic because you just overfilled the kill feed, only to see an empty hallway, is a good feeling

[robust mirage]

Hotshots would be nice

[hybrid river]

Hellguns are also called hotshot volley guns sometimes

[hollow turtle]

minimap mod is very limited use, but it at least gives me an indication of when my team is moving and I'm covering the rear.

[sharp ember]

is it just like a circle with dots representing you and your team?

[midnight patrol]

Oooo Hotshots would likely have insane cleave

So we can have the true railgun experience

[hollow turtle]

Lol essentially, yeah. No enemies show up unless damaged (I believe)

[midnight patrol]

Drill through hordes instead of the massive plasma balls

[sharp ember]

i swear me and one guy will always be defending a rear horde attack and the other two keep holding W and pull the hugest crusher patrol

[hollow turtle]

Nah, that's the zealots. XD

You already know it.

[plain heart]

We finally get the Warp Traveller track in the game

[zealous wyvern]

@untold mulch

my apologies glockenspiel

[hybrid river]

You’re good

[zealous wyvern]

i forgot to disable ping

[untold mulch]

ISAW IT ALREADY

[zealous wyvern]

good

[untold mulch]

[zealous wyvern]

i hope we get one soon

[midnight patrol]

My current Vet build allowed me to 5 shot to 6 shot headshot Crushers reliably on Heresy with a Vraks mk7 of all things. So I'm quite okay with zealots dragging crushers in like fleas on a cat lol

[untold mulch]

I HAVE SEEN THE EMPEROR

[zealous wyvern]

i cannot wait for my gunner korpsman to fire his first hellgun

was he goodlooking?

[untold mulch]

HE IS GLORIOUS

[south garnet]

No need to look behind you if the objective is forward right? Right? Enemies come from the front right? What are all those odd netting sounds, guttural charging noises, smashing sounds and flamer screams anyway?

[zealous wyvern]

was he handsome?

[untold mulch]

I understand the seer now

[zealous wyvern]

excellent

[sharp ember]

regarding the update name "The Traitor Curse", wonder if we'll have to fight a dead 'ard traitor captain

[hybrid river]

Oh shit nice

[tall torrent]

How many arms does your emperor have

[celest vine]

Tempestus scion gear when?

[hybrid river]

My hopium is paying off

[untold mulch]

[ivory aurora]

I need that backpack. But how much will it cost me 😢

[stray storm]

Someone told there were Jetpacks here 🤨

[worthy escarp]

I can't wait for these backpacks, hope when we attack the Hotshot lasgun (if we get one) it adds on the lowerpack for us as a little nice touch

[bleak tendon]

Holy shit wait so THE LAS VOLLEY IS REAL???

[left patrol]

this has been in for mooonnnthhs, same with the enforcer armor

[celest vine]

Bolt@pistol too

[hollow turtle]

I knew someone could do it. I was waiting for someone to make it in that mod.

[left patrol]

WHAT i have NOT seen that one holy

[gusty sonnet]

The carnival looks exciting. Heard it's where the "fire team" auras vets are born from.

[celest vine]

Splash screen gear is too

[robust mirage]

We need gravshutes

[worthy escarp]

Looks like just the model for now but functionally a Boltgun from the holding animation

[pine plume]

We're back

[worthy escarp]

Make people angry 😆

[celest vine]

The model is in the files

[tall torrent]

This is peak veteran helmet I will not be told otherwise

[hollow turtle]

Oh shiz. That's an official model?

[celest vine]

I will make an entire guard army with them having this helmet

[hollow turtle]

'Ere we go.

[worthy escarp]

Break the gameplay loop a little by flying, gets clowned on by all gunners in the area 😆

[celest vine]

Its modded onto a regular bolter

[stray storm]

I have to reset my perks >:[

[worthy escarp]

I can't wait to find out what these will be

[celest vine]

But the model is official

[hollow turtle]

I'm about to make a boltpistol knife build

[stray storm]

Damn I need to screenshot all my trees to not forget

[tall torrent]

I hope these are from future redacted penances they’re adding

[pearl granite]

vet talent tree getting update!

are we seeing a brighter future?

[midnight patrol]

Meanwhile I made the complete opposite and made a proper stocked bolt rifle lol

[celest vine]

Missile launcher when?

[south garnet]

Hope they fix the magazine placement before this goes live, whenever that happens

[left patrol]

would be cool as an altnerative to grenades in the talent tree

[iron marten]

damn, thanks big e

[gusty sonnet]

I guess they're keeping explosive weapons to be ogryn's niche ?

[midnight patrol]

One moment. Can the incendiary shells from the Kantrael crit?

[bleak tendon]

Completely fair

[midnight patrol]

I know they have infinite cleave

[south garnet]

Yes

[robust mirage]

Ogryns need a lasscanon

[worthy escarp]

Perfection

[bleak tendon]

Yes please

[pearl granite]

give orgyn twin linked chain bolter, i'm ok with that

[south garnet]

You can proc flechette with fire rounds

[midnight patrol]

Lol so fire and bleed stacks??

That sounds hilarious. Optimal? No. But hilarious

[south garnet]

It's the main reason to take kant sg imo

[hollow turtle]

I mean, if they really wanted to, they could give veterans the grenade launcher.

[worthy escarp]

Give Ogryn a two handed axe

[stray storm]

That’s Zealots job

[pearl granite]

two handed chain axe

[tall torrent]

Yes you can bleed a mauler to death with fire + bleed DoT

[south garnet]

It clears out mixed hordes well

[celest vine]

Theres alot that can be done

[tall torrent]

Not efficient but you can do it

[celest vine]

Longlas snipers

[worthy escarp]

This would be cool but Ogryn already fulfils that purpose

[stark moth]

Give ogryn big hammer

[celest vine]

Helguns and hotshots

Boltpistol

The meltagun thats in the files

[worthy escarp]

Would fit the Volley Fire 'Sharpshooter' build really nicely

[celest vine]

I want the scab snipers long las

[stray storm]

I want a sniper rifle

[celest vine]

Fuckin hel one shot everything

[pearl granite]

I'm obsessed with chain weapons

[tall torrent]

If we’re getting a long-las I’m expecting it to one shot crusher to the head at base

[worthy escarp]

I hope we get like two types of Longlas, as I'd love a Hellbore with a scope so we can pretend to be that Krieg Sniper out of the Killteam trailer

[finite imp]

Agri slug shotgun lmao

[hollow turtle]

I actually like to use my infil just so I can headshot that stupid sniper that's causing issues to the squad.

[rocky stratus]

chainsowrd brrrr

[worthy escarp]

🙏

[forest maple]

should i swap stripped down to deathspitter t4 or chance specialist damage to 25% maniac?

[rocky stratus]

my devils claw luck is honestly embarrising at this point

[finite imp]

Death spitter

[woeful oriole]

Give us a heavy bolter and see how many shots the player can fire before it just kills them

[finite imp]

100 percent ds

[pearl granite]

and my vet's best chain sword got sold off due to an inventory bug

[midnight patrol]

Mods allow you to change the zoom and stick reflex sights on helbores

[rocky stratus]

have yet to get any form of rampage

[tall torrent]

Stripped down for Deathspitter/fire frenzy

[finite imp]

I totally don't do that

[forest maple]

tyvm

[hollow turtle]

Imagine DaemonHost vs. 4 murderhobos with hellguns

[rocky stratus]

have levelled up 3 different claws to yellow

[worthy escarp]

I said scope /joke 😤

[finite imp]

I definitely do not have a sight on my godrolled shotgun

Nope

[worthy escarp]

If I could I would take the relfex sight off my lasgun

[finite imp]

You can...not

Can

[worthy escarp]

I know

[finite imp]

It sure is a shame there are no mods for that

At all

[brave egret]

what do you think these new keystones will be?

[finite imp]

At nexus

[onyx urchin]

hey veterans

[finite imp]

Actually the one I'm thinking of is in the DT modding discord

[onyx urchin]

the anniversary update trailer came out

[finite imp]

What's up gamer

[midnight patrol]

Jokes aside, when the deamon host downs someone. It's hilarious to see all the Vets in the squad line up infront of her. And it's max cyclic rate of fire into her face

[onyx urchin]

and it shows new keystones for vets

[finite imp]

Oh neat

[hollow turtle]

Weapons Customization mod is working on something for sniper scope.

[midnight patrol]

Not often I see it fail with half good Vets

[hybrid river]

Yes but we’re more occupied with catshark teasing hellguns

[finite imp]

I sure hope we don't get nerfed

[pearl granite]

wait, can the scope actually work?

[onyx urchin]

what does the hellgun entail?

[hollow turtle]

Lol and that's what they're trying to do.

[pearl granite]

or just cosmetic

oh

[hybrid river]

Overclocked, backpack powered, full auto las gun with higher penetration

[hollow turtle]

They have it somewhat functioning, but from what others say, it's sort of janky

[hybrid river]

It’s what the scab gunners use

[slim ocean]

What was said!?

[onyx urchin]

like scab gunner lasguns!

[pearl granite]

able to alter the weapon's accessory would be awesome

[hybrid river]

@slim ocean

[finite imp]

That just looks like a buff to me

[slim ocean]

Ah so probably not in the anniversary update

Look forward to them

[onyx urchin]

is this from modding or in-game

[finite imp]

Mod

[hollow turtle]

modding.

[onyx urchin]

ok

[midnight patrol]

That looks. Actually not half bad.

[tall torrent]

Imagine commando vet gets weapon swap speed talent

[finite imp]

The amount of stuff in this game that is simply toggled off is uh...mind boggling

[finite imp]

I don't think I'd want that personally

[hollow turtle]

Imagine if they said "F it" and toggled it all on

[finite imp]

The game would be better slightly lol

[hollow turtle]

I'd imagine a shit ton of new bugs

[midnight patrol]

Commando Vet with an improved swap speed might make bolters more viable

[flint lake]

Don't get too excited. The files for a Hotshot Blessing for the Hellbore have been in the game's files since launch. We're probably not getting a hellgun. Maybe a long las but that's still a big if.

[finite imp]

Didn't think of that

[midnight patrol]

Yeah like

Imagine the speed of the Headhunter rifles

But on a bolter

So we now have a proper heavy marksman rifle without charge mechanics

[flint lake]

Bolter is pleanty viable

[tall torrent]

Keystone coming this month (within next 20 days)

[finite imp]

Add orkish weapons like the dakkagun that hurts you Everytime you shoot it

[worthy escarp]

Nice, although I'd like the idea of it just being cosmetic then gameplay changing (Other then blocking parts of my view, it is a price I am willing to make)

[midnight patrol]

It'll be even better then!

[hybrid river]

There’s a big difference between stuff we know they thought of at one point, and a CM saying we “deserve it as a treat” it’s not a confirmation by any means but it’s one hell of a tease

[flint lake]

its just an A tier plasma.

[elder relic]

why cuz its basically a helbore but too good?

[rocky stratus]

what stars don’t really matter on the devil sword

[worthy escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-commissar-tzeentch-confused-gif-26391578

[acoustic wyvern]

lol the subs

[rocky stratus]

finesse and mobility?

[worthy escarp]

Techno heresy with Xeno's tech? Mating press Death

[finite imp]

That gifs hilarious

[onyx urchin]

we already gots a kannon! (kickback)

[flint lake]

Its noncomittal and vague.

[woeful oriole]

Is that John commissar Reilly

[finite imp]

I love John c Reilly

[worthy escarp]

Maybe

[midnight patrol]

I suspect this is Jasper Kyd dark magic at work

[woeful oriole]

The c stands for commissar

[worthy escarp]

Just type 'Commissar' into the gif finder

[hybrid river]

That’s why I said it was a tease

[midnight patrol]

They make some of the sickest video game music

[worthy escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/экстерминатус-бабай-великолепный-бэбэй-бебей-gif-17986446467396080512

[finite imp]

Imagine him actually playing the role of a commissar

[flint lake]

And that's why I said don't get excited.

[woeful oriole]

He probably could

[finite imp]

Get up there and get them or whatever or I gotta shoot ya I'm sorry I don't make the rules :/

[slim ocean]

New weapons on second half of anniversary maybe?

[hollow turtle]

Lol if Henry Caville threw him into his series, I'd totally be okay with it.

[woeful oriole]

I should be in the series totally

As every character

[finite imp]

He'd be the misunderstood commissar that shouldn't be in that position

[woeful oriole]

It’s just me

[woeful oriole]

“I’m not entirely sure how I got here.”

[hollow turtle]

He'd the commissar assigned to a platoon of Kriegsman.

"They just keep charging and I can't stop them."

[finite imp]

These guys don't say much I don't know what their deal is or if I offended them or something but jeez it sure gets quiet

[woeful oriole]

Don’t Krieg commissars have a tendency to umm… “kill themselves with several lasrounds to the back”

[terse idol]

Krieg commissars have a tendency to not be from Krieg, and the position tends to be a retirement position

[finite imp]

Also not to be a lore head but they're called Causemen

[woeful oriole]

Neat

[finite imp]

The death korps plural is causemen

[hollow turtle]

"They have some pretty dark humor when we're in the trenches."'

[smoky lark]

is stagger a dump stat for boltguns?

[finite imp]

We all sat down to eat one time and I was literally the only person to say anything the whole meal.

[woeful oriole]

Who thinks Lee Pace should be in the series. He just has a 40k look. Especially with his elf hair

[onyx urchin]

red bolter with 100% reload speed when

[finite imp]

I don't know if I can keep doin this Ricky

[tight dragon]

4rth decent rolls on a sword today, surely it won't brick instantly again

[hollow turtle]

The funniest part is that I can hear him actually saying these lines.

[finite imp]

Lmaooo

[woeful oriole]

That’s how u know he’s good

If u instinctually read something in an actors voice, that’s a good actor

[finite imp]

His sad inflections as he's complaining about feeling like he can't make any friends

[copper pine]

I think that's enough stagger to knock bulwark shields in one shot still

[finite imp]

I know I'm a commissar but I'm still a human cmon man

Please someone be my friend

[smoky lark]

I'll test it out. If it is, it's enough, the stats are good?

[finite imp]

Lmao

[woeful oriole]

It just reminds me of him at the end of guardians trying to explain to drax and rocket why they can’t commit crimes

[copper pine]

Yes

[celest vine]

Tis but a flesh wound

[hollow turtle]

No wait! I got it! He'd be the perfect actor casted for Ciaphus Cain!

[woeful oriole]

Healthiest person in 40k

[celest vine]

I find it funny they censor swears bit you can get such intense gore

[woeful oriole]

You can’t swear!!!! Anyways intestines

The gore is amazing in this game tho

[hollow turtle]

Lol turn off your chat censor

[finite imp]

John c Reilly commissar sitting down looking defeated staring off in the distance

[celest vine]

I did

[hollow turtle]

John C Reilly Commissar being celebrated as the hero of the imperium but confused as all hell.

[finite imp]

Yeaaaah!! We are cheering for me alright!! For all of the super good things I totally did! Looks around nervously

[hollow turtle]

"All part of the plan guys."

[midnight patrol]

Funny. Most of my rifle shots blow off their head entirely.

Lots of blood fountains with this Vet around.

[terse idol]

Krieg deathwatch assigned to other guardsmen factions tend to suffer from morale issues because I would assume they dont understand that guardsmen actually have morale

[finite imp]

They almost aren't even human

It's really creepy

[smoky lark]

it was, one shot staggers the shield away. thanks for the advice :D

[celest vine]

Thunder hammer moment

[terse idol]

Well it is that devotion Kriegsmen have

The only thing that can repent the sins that the traitors caused is to die for the emperor

[finite imp]

I wouldn't call it devotion

[terse idol]

Its fantasism

[finite imp]

It's like they lack a part of their brain that lets them...feel want...or fear

[terse idol]

Well yeah

A kriegsmen with fear, or feelings wouldn't survive basic training

This is why krieg commisar have it easy

They aren't afraid that the krieg troops are gonna retreat

[hollow turtle]

Doesn't tabletop say that Kriegsmen straight up cause -5 morale?
To who? The allies or the enemies? Yes.

[finite imp]

I have to wonder about their basic training

[terse idol]

They just need to make sure they go in at exactly the right time

[terse idol]

Child soldiers

[spring spindle]

I mean. If I thought to myself
“This fight can’t get any worse.”
And Kriegsman show up. Nah bro, this IS the worst

[finite imp]

If kreigsman have shown up at your command, you know you're about to see some fucked up shit

[hollow turtle]

Debatable. They don't need to tell them to charge. It's telling them to stop charging that usually ends up getting the commissar killed.

[terse idol]

Debatable

Iit would be heresy to kill a commisar

[finite imp]

Relatable

[hollow turtle]

"Executed for cowardice"

[terse idol]

A kriegsmens duty is to die for the emperor

[untold mulch]

Depends on situation

Guardsman life is the currency of the Emperor

And wasting is bad

[terse idol]

And to attone

[finite imp]

Have y'all read Krieg?

[terse idol]

Yeah

[finite imp]

It's a really good book

[hallow parcel]

Theory crafting time?

[finite imp]

Nah I'll save my energy

[hollow solstice]

😔

[finite imp]

I don't see the problem

[hallow parcel]

but that's half the fun of pre-patch info

[onyx urchin]

rightmost one looks like a gun-melee duelist thing where you are rewarded for swapping guns frequently

[finite imp]

You enjoy your fun I have to sit in this foxhole for 36 hours with no water or food

[terse idol]

Ranged, shout/support, melee cqc

[midnight patrol]

Oh by the by guys. Does Decimator on the shovel work with heavy attack chains?

[hollow turtle]

Was thinking the same.

[spring spindle]

Left: Something that goes pew better

Middle: Something with toughness

Right: Something with swapping between gun and melee

[finite imp]

What do causemen eat?

Like what's in a kreig ration

Corpse starch?

They just slinging bricks?

[hollow turtle]

Left "Faster reload/high crit chance on headshots buff that last x seconds"

[onyx urchin]

i think the left one looks like something with weakspot hits, maybe crits on weakspots

[hallow parcel]

Better yet

Weakpoints, Coherency based, and Close Quarters Damage

[onyx urchin]

middle looks like coherency something

[hallow parcel]

imagine a keystone that is just

"All coherency bonuses doubled for all in coherency" or something hilarious lol

[spring spindle]

Isn’t corpse starch basically like the last resort though?

[untold mulch]

It should, it makes no sense for it to be a normal meal

Unless is in low %

[hollow turtle]

"For every ally in coherency, fire rate increased for all team members by x%"

[finite imp]

Imma google

[onyx urchin]

corpse starch, standard militarum MRE

[spring spindle]

Isn’t cannibalism like. Turbo illegal in the Imperium anyway

[finite imp]

Clearly not

[hollow turtle]

Call it "Wall of Guns" keystone

[finite imp]

Since corpse starch is a thing

[hallow parcel]

"Grenade explosion radius increased by 25% per ally in coherency"

[spring spindle]

Rules get broken here anyway who gives a shit

[neon briar]

hopefully one of them gives us a way to skip reloading, maybe similar to the old talent where it reloads your weapon on activating ult, or something new like the weapon reloads itself while stowed

[midnight patrol]

A single Vet and three Gorgonom heavy stubber Orgyns be like

[neon briar]

manual reloading is cringe