veteran-class

[quaint valve]

How to make this work?

[astral blade]

would fatshark do dlc classes in darktide?

[elder relic]

What could they be adding

[candid bridge]

My brother in holy terra that roll is damn near perfect

[forest maple]

it is?

[quaint valve]

never use vraks, teach me the ways

[forest maple]

replace stamina with flak or maniac

then you need either of those blessings + deadly accurate

[candid bridge]

^

[forest maple]

surgical is better if you cant aim

[quaint valve]

think id dump headhunter since its T3 for deadly

[gritty dock]

Can you show how you made Chainsaw? 😉

I have a question: is it possible to check somewhere how much the critical chance for a weapon is?

[forest maple]

not sure myself but you can check games lantern

but i do know that veteran has a base 5% crit chance

no matter what

[south garnet]

No, everyone has 5% base chance, vet gets (or got, at least) 10% base iirc

[forest maple]

2.5% for ogryn, 5% for vet and zealot and 7.5% for psyker. Those are BASE critical rates

without any modifier or weapon

[south garnet]

Is that post patch 13?

[forest maple]

It used to be 10% for vet

but it was changed with the talent tree patch

now these are the base stats

we also lost lots of max toughness

[south garnet]

Gotcha, yeah,I hadn't seen new info

Interesting that psyker pulled to the lead on that front

[gritty dock]

Very pretty. 🙂

[elder relic]

Just makes them annoying when they're a auto pistol psyker

[quaint valve]

ty, its a blender for sure

[calm prairie]

idk man I feel like we'll be lucky if we ever see it

I still think its tied up in a season pass that never came

[forest maple]

I dont understand the ogryn 2.5%, but then again, i have no idea about ogryns

[candid bridge]

What’s sad is you see all that sweet armor when doing the tutorial 😔

[calm prairie]

he's also in the operative select menu

in the background

and some of the vendor cutscenes

[forest maple]

Isn't it pretty obvious that its a damnation penance set and the logical continuation from what we've got so far?

Thats how it seems to me

[dusk jacinth]

pc gamepass players get the new bundle?

[forest maple]

were most likely getting a new map/bossfight on the anniversary, considering what happened on the vox channel today

[calm prairie]

I mean I wouldnt call it obvious since theres been no mention of new penances coming

[forest maple]

Im guessing its either flash mission penance related or straight up the damnation tier penances

cause we have the helmet part already and the gas mask seperate

and its a cosmetic that can be free instead of premium because of how it looks and its parts

[gritty dock]

Can someone explain how Shred works exactly and how much crit it adds and for how long? 👍

[calm prairie]

yeah it doesnt look like something we'd get in the item shop so I can see what you mean

[forest maple]

Thats my educated guess

[elder relic]

Dunno why we don't get what's shown on the loading screen, like is it that much to ask?

[candid bridge]

It’s entirely up in the air, no one knows for sure

[dusk jacinth]

u do

[calm prairie]

it said PC players so it should be for gamepass

[dusk jacinth]

i just checked in da offical thing

[forest maple]

We should be getting it somewhat soon is my argument

[elder relic]

should make it available in shop

[umbral scaffold]

hallo hallo. swap rampage for power instead?

[forest maple]

I'm thinking that maybe they havent decided yet which cosmetics will be the same tier for the other classes

[calm prairie]

idk every update since it came out Ive been holding out hope that I'll see it in the operative cosmetics shop for dockets

[umbral scaffold]

slaughterer or rampage for power sword?

[calm prairie]

I feel like its a distant dream

[candid bridge]

I keep saying it, but I want the damn headset in the character creator you see 😔

I wish to show off my sweet forehead tattoo

[inland orchid]

I’ve seen a few vet bots have that headpiece

[forest maple]

That will not happen because it looks unique so they are saving it for the "free" player stuff for the hard penances. THEN we might get recolors from the store for dockets

not before

[fathom grail]

Can we mod the shout to just say “Oi!”

[gritty dock]

Does Shred affect Chainsaw's special ability or not?

[inland orchid]

So it’s ingame, just not for us

[umbral scaffold]

slaughterer or rampage for power sword?

[crude wind]

he's 5 now as well

but he has another 5 in his tree

[candid bridge]

I know, it disgruntled me greatly lol

[umbral scaffold]

power or overall damage?

[crude wind]

currently Rampage is bugged and does both

but that will get patched

Rampage currently 36% power and 50% extra damage at t4 lol

[forest maple]

So slaughterer will be the one you want eventually

[tall torrent]

Vet is 5% base now, has a 5% node in talent tree

[tall torrent]

Brutal momentum

[umbral scaffold]

why they don't hotpatch these things

[crude wind]

still a case to be made for rampage. it's power, not damage so it does more, and it activates at max potential rather than having to build up to it

[forest maple]

I might be talking out of my ass regarding the veteran promotional cosmetic, but its appearance just screams to me penance gear

[crude wind]

admittedly not hard with powersword but still

[forest maple]

definitely not premium shop or docket

[candid bridge]

Cause upper management

[umbral scaffold]

why?

[umbral scaffold]

yeah real poopy

[candid bridge]

Extra cleave on kill + damage on hit

[tall torrent]

Allows u to 1 hit kill 4-5 bruisers with charged light attacks

Without BM it’s only 1 kill

[gritty dock]

@tall torrent Can explain how Shred works exactly and how much crit it adds and for how long? 🙏
Does Shred affect Chainsaw's special ability or not?

[tall torrent]

The other option is sunder

Which many consider to be a meme

But sunder gives u 400% cleave and is by far the strongest for mixed hordes

PS can only cleave 3 Dreg ragers or 2 scab ragers with charged attacks

Sunder allows u to cleave much more

[tall torrent]

What are u putting shred on

[forest maple]

each successful enemy hit gives you a stacking buff of crit chance for a few seconds up to 5 stacks

i dont see why it shouldnt work with special action attack

[tall torrent]

Chain axe & chainsword special counts as 1 hit I think

[forest maple]

yup

it does

it procs 1 stack of shred and also benefits from shred's increased critical strike chance

[gritty dock]

Cadia Mk IV Assault Chainsword

[tall torrent]

I don’t recommend shred on most weapons

Except axes

I think combat axe cleave from BM can proc shred multiple times?

[umbral scaffold]

shred is fine on chainsword

[finite imp]

Axes need better armor piercing they have a bs low amount

[flint lake]

Yeah but Rampage and Bloodletter are BIS for chain weapons

[forest maple]

chainsword has such nice cleave potential on light attacks that i go rampage and cleave blessings

[finite imp]

It's a fucking axe

Of all the things that should cut through armor and Axe should naturally

Like wtf

[umbral scaffold]

bloodletter? no

[forest maple]

What survives a charged special from chainsword that it needs bleed stacks except crushers?

[quaint valve]

exactly ^

[umbral scaffold]

best in slot for chains are savage sweep and rampage

[forest maple]

charge sword special is so strong that it doesnt need more damage, hence the horde clear blessings

[finite imp]

The knife has great armor pen natively cuz of heavys. Good cool. The same mechanic should apply to axes for the same reason

[flint lake]

Mauler, muties, monsterous creatures.

[tall torrent]

Basically u just build savage sweep + rampage for every sword except power swords and dueling swords lol

[forest maple]

muties die 1 shot

[midnight mortar]

Muties die in one heavy rev.

It used to be one light rev before the last patch.

But either way muties aren't bleeding from bloodletter.

[flint lake]

Yeah and a light rev with Bloodletter kills it just as well

[finite imp]

I also still think knife should do my native backstab

More*

[forest maple]

but why

[robust mirage]

can someone explain to me what the stopping power stat does?

[finite imp]

25 percent doesn't make it worth it

[finite imp]

Hit v

[midnight mortar]

Press V, inspect it.

[finite imp]

It explains you you

[forest maple]

press V and check the stat

[tall torrent]

Increases %dmg against specific armor types & stagger

[finite imp]

Yeah I learned this today too lmao

[robust mirage]

ah cool didnt know thanks

[forest maple]

depending on the range close/far

[finite imp]

I've been playing damnation for Months and am just now learning this so don't feel bad

[robust mirage]

so the one i linked can go in the bin

[finite imp]

Are you level 30

[flint lake]

Really though, your taking Bloodletter for monsterous creatures when using a weapon with poor trade into those tanky targets.

[forest maple]

It's very simple really. With rampage + savage sweep, you get a cleaving horde powerhouse while also having insane single target damage in 1 package

[finite imp]

If you're level 30 bin it. That base quality sucks

[forest maple]

Of course you can build it however you like

[finite imp]

The fact this is debatable means it's based on habit and balance

[flint lake]

The chainsword already has plenty enough cleave and the 20% Crit from shred is nice but doesn’t help hit any serious breakpoints.

[finite imp]

Some blessings are better for some people than others

[calm prairie]

yeah its a real tragedy because that cover guy has some serious drip on darktide

[finite imp]

If we all ran around being John darktide what's the fun in that

[forest maple]

Have you tried it with T4 savage sweep to see what happens when it procs?

when cleaving hordes?

its 200% cleave and like 40% extra damage just by hitting 3+ enemies at once

[finite imp]

Which in damnation you're doing like 90 percent of the time

[calm prairie]

I hope they arent as bad as launch penances if they do those were annoying

[forest maple]

and chainsword has one of the highest base damages for melee weapons

[finite imp]

It's funny that some blessings only are worth it in high intensity dam

[forest maple]

and good attack patterns

[finite imp]

I just wish the rev didn't lock you in place

[forest maple]

It has to for how much damage it does, even then its not that bad

[gritty dock]

On Chainsword I have Rampage, what to add to the best possible sawing of Carapace Armored (Scab Mauler and Crusher). +25% Damage Carapace Armored Perk and Bloodletter Blessing?

[tall torrent]

I literally got into the game because the cover art veteran has mad drip

[quaint valve]

how would that work though? cause its a chainsaw in a target

[finite imp]

Yeah. It's just in damnation that split second where I can't move can insta down me

[calm prairie]

ya that'd work

[forest maple]

I've been revving elites in the midst of hordes without real trouble

[finite imp]

The sword already revs a little with each swing

[forest maple]

Just have to be a little bit more careful with it

[finite imp]

Just enough to create a blade

[calm prairie]

fr I chose veteran for the gas mask drip

[finite imp]

You can hear it when you swing it

But that's also canon if you read 40k at all

[tall torrent]

They’ll prob pub more cosmetics behind new penances when they release them

[wise mesa]

So uh why does the talent that let's you carry one more granade actually take one away?

[finite imp]

Because grenade tinkerer gives you stun immunity

[terse idol]

I'm sorry but the last penance cosmetics kinda sucked

[wise mesa]

that's something

[finite imp]

I'm still farming for skull hoarder

[forest maple]

I disagree, it is pretty good

[finite imp]

I feel so close yet so far

[forest maple]

liked the rugged look

[finite imp]

Sigh

[tall torrent]

I think killshot’s duty uniform look pretty good

[calm prairie]

yeah its all ive been running since I got it this time last year

[finite imp]

I think it would be super fucking easy for them to spam alot more penances with even some not so great cosmetics

[forest maple]

is that the leather jacket with the bullets one?

[finite imp]

Like maybe some people wanna look like a crackhead idk

[tall torrent]

They’re prob working on it

[tall torrent]

No, this one

[finite imp]

What they NEED to do is change those redacted ones

[forest maple]

Ah, im super bored of that

had it since week 2

[finite imp]

Non penance should require you to purposefully play worse

[terse idol]

I just want the more stock troop look

Or the helmet that yeah the vet on the box has

[forest maple]

Well see what we get on the anniversary

[tall torrent]

Psykers being told to blow themselves up:

[trim steppe]

They did make all the redacted ones way easier to get. But yeah its nutty

[forest maple]

they are teasing chaos sorcerers/ chaos something's

[finite imp]

WTH were they thinking

[forest maple]

Also, RIP Wyrmwood

you will be missed

[finite imp]

The vet one still requires a 90 percent accuracy and if you have scavenger on you fuck yourself

[potent blade]

I know you all will take that very well. Fatshark loves you still... i think.

[calm prairie]

very soon

[finite imp]

So you have to play bad on purpose

[frank ether]

feel like agri iag needs a dps buff

[finite imp]

One year later

[calm prairie]

yeah LOL

and still no cover guy unfortunately

[terse idol]

Well if you don't want to hurt other people at least they made it so its private parties only

[finite imp]

You do? Really? Okay sure I'll take that

[strange grove]

lol was this worth 700 aq? Probably not

shovel is goated tho

[finite imp]

I think the agri is great but hey I'll take a buff for one of my fav weapons

[trim steppe]

You dont have to take scavenger now, you used to HAVE to. But either way, once you empty your gun, as long as you dont switch back before the mission is over you get it even if you got ammo back. Take a revolver, plug it into hordes, then melee everything else, done EZ PZ

[flint lake]

Easy enough if you drop a nade to stagger them all and rev.

[forest maple]

HUH? its my go to weapon and it SHREDS

[frank ether]

why use it over columnus

[tall torrent]

Agripinaa mk1 IAG can cleave horde enemies

[finite imp]

Does it have to be you're whole ammo pool too

Sounds doable

[tall torrent]

But onslaught benefits high firerate much more

[finite imp]

Maybe I'll give it a shot

Lel

[calm prairie]

im just happy they made kantrael 1a viable

[forest maple]

Higher damage per shot and more controlable

[calm prairie]

lasgun drip

[flint lake]

Might sound better

[frank ether]

all the talents and blessings benefit from higher rof

[trim steppe]

Yeah empty it down to zero/zero then switch to melee. Even if your aura gives you more ammo back it still counts just don't switch back

[finite imp]

Okay

[frank ether]

and in raw dps columnus is significantly better

[finite imp]

Maybe I can finally put a check mark on that then

[tall torrent]

MESC is not as bad as before
But On Overwatch is still somewhat frustrating

[finite imp]

Heresy can't be too bad with a meta sword

[finite imp]

Bruh idk how I managed to get that one

It was pure accident I think

[inland orchid]

Even with the best/meta junk there will always be a possibility of failure

[forest maple]

I have a god roll agri IAG and it feels super strong and chunky

[tall torrent]

On Overwatch before patch 13 not fun

[trim steppe]

Hot take, I really like On Overwatch. It made me learn how to play hyper defensively early on and made me a better player long term

[inland orchid]

Is why this game a team game, no matter how many pub broskis will make u think otherwise

[south garnet]

remove revolver from vet completely, make plasma a plasma pistol that does quarter damage and burns you each time you shoot it, replace devils claw and Pswords with walking cane mk 1 and 2 (for 1 kph and 2 kph walk speeds respectively), remove talent tree and replace with family tree of all our fathers and fathers fathers who died in the war

PLEASE nerf vet

[finite imp]

That's when I got it.

[tall torrent]

On Overwatch should be mandatory training for any player trying to enter auric

[finite imp]

Bring it on

[tall torrent]

It’s the one penance where you actually have to learn every bit of what this game wants u to learn

[forest maple]

Do you know what must be mandatory for people to learn to do before auric? FREAKING MARK ENEMIES

[finite imp]

I'll still be top of the score boards

[forest maple]

I CANT BE BEGGING PEOPLE TO MARK

[finite imp]

I always lol at people being like noooo marking enemies is too hard don't tell me how to play

Nooo putting down ammo box is asking too much of meee

[forest maple]

wOW IF only i could see some of the 14 gunners/shotgunners that are shooting us through 5 crushers and flamers

[finite imp]

Telling me to heal wtf man

Next you're gonna tell me to use my gun???

Fuck this game bro

[south garnet]

It's one thing for people to not mark - it's fine. It's another to not mark, then end up downed five times in the same match to a pack of ragers or maulers or in a hallway filled with fire bombs

[forest maple]

I literally type once every two matches or so for people to mark more please

[south garnet]

then I laugh

[trim steppe]

The number of fucking people who dont pick up medipacks, who ignore 4 pip health stations with 4 wounds of corruption, just wth are you doing

[south prairie]

MESC is just about the last one i have left and god damn is it frustrating, even more than On Overwatch

[forest maple]

I don't understand how people choose to ignore such a powerful tool

[finite imp]

I think people don't realize it but because of how our monkey brains are wired marking an elite usually gets it killed pretty quick

[forest maple]

IT IS that strong

[tall torrent]

Bring a shotgun and a strong melee weapon, ur set

[finite imp]

If you mark an elite it's literally impossible for me to ignore and it's easy to line up a headshot

Because of red outline

[south prairie]

Ah, so shotgun is the way. I was using revolver

[south garnet]

people think "this could be MY kill, why should I mark it" when what the mauler is thinking is "this is gonna be MY kill, I'm glad he hasn't marked me"

[finite imp]

SIGH it's a COOP GAME AAAA

[frank ether]

what do you run on it? dumdum frenzy?

[tall torrent]

I mark whatever I’m shooting at so I can see their heads better

[forest maple]

This is my kill, says the zealot bum rushed by 8 shotgunners

[tall torrent]

I don’t mark for my team I mark for myself

[calm prairie]

fr bruh

[finite imp]

If you flex on other players do it when saving them

[forest maple]

dum dum and sustained fire

[calm prairie]

makes it so much easier

[terse idol]

Make it so it isn't YOUR kill, it's the teams kill

[forest maple]

25% flak/maniac

[terse idol]

Coop mechanics™️

[tall torrent]

Yk what’s better than marking? Psyker brain burst

[south garnet]

baffling that people don't mark through fire/smoke/hordes even for themselves

[finite imp]

Hold yp

[tall torrent]

Blue glowing head = veteran: “I must shoot that”

[south garnet]

then will go down to a flamer they couldn't pinpoint lol

"HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED? TO ME???"

[frank ether]

have you tried columnus with dumdum?

[finite imp]

Why sustained fire

[forest maple]

The damage doesn't need any kills to proc and makes it easier to kill targets in 4-5 bullet bursts

[forest maple]

I have

its strong

[finite imp]

I'm a zero IQ trigger holder

[forest maple]

i just prefer the agri

[desert isle]

columnus mark 5 or mark 2?

[forest maple]

Doesnt matter, each time you choose another target, your 3rd and 4th bullet do 20% more

[finite imp]

I get the biggest magazine gun I can find and go LOLOLOLOL

[finite imp]

WAIT WHAT

NO FUCKING WAY

HOLY PISS

[forest maple]

I mean

[frank ether]

its not as good as you think

[ruby fulcrum]

Sustained fire is surprisingly strong on mk5iag

[finite imp]

I thought in order for it to proc you have to let go of trigger

[forest maple]

salvo resets when your accuracy resets

so about 1 second

yeah

you have

to

[frank ether]

not really doing a whole lot to your bullet to kill in most instances

agri has horrendeous visual recoil btw

[finite imp]

Idk man that's 2 boosted bullets

[tall torrent]

IAG dps meta is dum dum + deathspitter/fire frenzy

[frank ether]

of all the iags agri recoil they really butchered

[finite imp]

When you're looking at 5 shots to kill a gunner

[forest maple]

You guys can always try it

[finite imp]

3 is pretty good

4

I mean

I'll give it a try

I probably won't really notice it in t the chaos

[forest maple]

also

deathspitter has the close range negative

sustained fire doesnt

[lavish rose]

agri iag is in a different post code when you're shooting

crosshair remap my beloved

[forest maple]

If your aim is good, sustained fire is deadly

especially on weakspot hits

[frank ether]

agri is literally unusable without crosshair yea

only when you install that mod do you realize just how the ironsights have nothing to do with where your bullets actually go

[forest maple]

Give us customizable sights fat fish

[tall torrent]

Columnus recoil is ok
Graia still beams better tho

[forest maple]

Wait

what am i hearing

[midnight mortar]

Too complex. Sorry.

[forest maple]

https://tenor.com/view/simonriley-simon-ghost-riley-mw2-modern-warfare2-modern-warfare-gif-25330917

[frank ether]

columnus recoil is good

[forest maple]

NOOOO

[frank ether]

well good enough

columnus is also misaligned btw

[tall torrent]

Ik, all the IAGs have really high gun kick values

[umbral scaffold]

Are my Psyker that ugly

[frank ether]

but doesnt matter with watermelon sized head hitboxes

[nimble sentinel]

my poor heart reading y'all talking about full auto guns and remembering what they did to my recon lasgun

[frank ether]

I dont rly mind high recoil if it was up to me I would increase the graia/agri DPS and increase their recoil along with it to match columnus

[lavish rose]

it's not the kick that's the problem with IAGs, you can easily keep the camera in the same spot

[tall torrent]

Gun kick is not view kick

[lavish rose]

it's just that the crosshair goes somewhere else

[tall torrent]

View kick is the actual recoil

[frank ether]

or maybe make agri low fall-off long range variant

[tall torrent]

Gun kick is the gun model moving inside the screen

That’s why you see it misaligned

[frank ether]

thats called visual recoil

you're the first person I've seen referring to it that way so I didnt understand

yes the recoil is decoupled from where your bullets go

no matter tho

just install crosshair mod

now you can ignore irons and focus on screen center

[unkempt pawn]

There's a few crosshair mods on nexus, any one specifically?

[forest maple]

I still dont understand what you are saying. The iron sight center is not where the bullets go? How do i hit accurate shots then

[frank ether]

I use crosshair remap

[serene sage]

Yeah this is confusing af

[austere blade]

Should I buy

[flint lake]

Yeah I would. It’s a nice demigod roll.

[tall torrent]

34% defence is funny

[icy snow]

combined stats are kinda low. Can just buy it to earn the tier 4 blessing though if you like the shovel

[austere blade]

Sure, combined stats are low, but I thought Defences was usually the dump stat for these weapons

[quick burrow]

whats hte play for curios

im running triple max hp with 5% hp/tough/cdr for moar shouts

[austere blade]

I've been running Toughness with DR-Gunner/HP/Toughness myself

[tall torrent]

U can run it and when u get a better shovel, harvest uncanny strike

[quick burrow]

wondering if i shout mix in some stam regen or stuff

[sick marsh]

anyone know if I'd qualify for the vanguard bundle if I bought the game on xbox store on PC?

[quick burrow]

ah fatsharks middle finger to their original supporters i love it

[eternal sable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/250356056855674880/1172169062692966512/speed-1.gif?ex=655f5682&is=654ce182&hm=49210591cbfe0e8ace08ea39da82d5665e50802d5a6ff46e8bcba945408192ae&

[serene sage]

Officially PC
But I heard there are work arounds for XB

[sick marsh]

but if I have it on Windows for Microsoft store, does it qualify me?

[serene sage]

That's what I meant by the work around part

[sick marsh]

ohk. kek

[serene sage]

There's a post earlier today

Saying you can

[sick marsh]

are they allowing it, or are they not aware?

[serene sage]

I wish I know haha sorry

[sick marsh]

rip... we'll have to see

[serene sage]

Yeah gl

[quick burrow]

what u guys think of this gun ?

[serene sage]

I think it's a gun

One of the many guns

[frank ether]

hang on

I'll show you

[tight dragon]

is stability that big of a deal

[austere blade]

For Infantry Autoguns, I'd say so

[frank ether]

https://streamable.com/qybhrf

[tight dragon]

man for once i roll 80 on both damage stats

[frank ether]

notice the trail of boolets going above the ironsights

[forest maple]

yup

[clear mist]

Whats a good skil to use nowadays?

[forest maple]

So the bullets align to the top of the iron sight?

not directly on it

[forest maple]

It looks normal to me kinda?

[frank ether]

not just top but to the sides sometimes

[forest maple]

ah

[frank ether]

I mean if you cant see these bullets missing as a problem Idk how to help lol

[forest maple]

Might be recoil pattern messing with bullet trajectory since you are full auto

[elder relic]

It's gonna flip if you autofire more than 5 rounds

[frank ether]

the bullets are just not going where the ironsights are looking at

there is a large gap between the front post and the dot

[forest maple]

They are going a little bit above. right?

[frank ether]

if you aim using the dot its perfectly accurate

[forest maple]

wait, which dot

wait, there's really a dot there

didnt see it lol

[tiny igloo]

I've got a 369 revolver with Crucian Roulette III and Hand-Cannon III and I've already rerolled a perk for +25% vs. Maniacs, what should I roll the other perk for? It's currently 8% Ranged Damage (Specialists)

[forest maple]

is hand cannon the rending one/

[frank ether]

ye streamable killed the quality of this

[tiny igloo]

Yes

[forest maple]

then i think you need surgical and not crucian roulette?

[elder relic]

That's the graia right mk9

[tiny igloo]

Haven't unlocked Surgical

[feral jetty]

Hey all how the heck are we doing

[elder relic]

And I just got a 370 rating for it

[frank ether]

this is agri iag

I'll check if graia has the same issue

[elder relic]

Hope not, it's my best infantry rifle

[feral jetty]

Hopw everyone's day or night is going splendidly

[forest maple]

I'm not sure what perks are the best for it, but i think its flak+maniac. and the blessings surgical/hand cannon

[frank ether]

It does lol

just use crosshair mod

[feral jetty]

Yeah I'd go flak too

Flak is nice

[elder relic]

Alright I guess

[feral jetty]

Why just alright you guess

[frank ether]

initially its not a problem but the more you shoot the worse it gets

[feral jetty]

[forest maple]

Crucian roulette is an alright alternative, but significantly weaker

[frank ether]

if you do small bursts the ironsight is accurate

[feral jetty]

Surgical is the one that gives crit when holding ads right

[frank ether]

if you want to do spraydowns I recommend getting the crosshair mod

if you're on a controller u get bullet magnetism anyways

[forest maple]

huh?

[feral jetty]

@tiny igloo your banner gives me great joy btw

[forest maple]

theres auto-aim?

[feral jetty]

Ferrets

[tiny igloo]

Ye

[feral jetty]

And yeah auto aim exists

Otherwise controllers would be worse in every way vs mouse lol

[delicate harbor]

Wait, in the vanguard bundle… is no backback for the ogryn?

[feral jetty]

Oh does the backpack not go to every class?

[delicate harbor]

I’m currently watching a video where “mister mugsy” just said “ogryns get glowing eyes but no backpack.

And zealots look like snipers.

[serene sage]

Probably not Ogryns

[feral jetty]

Sadge

Makes sense tho

[serene sage]

Ogryns have their own stuff

[feral jetty]

Yea

[unkempt lagoon]

is the vet's 'take no melee damage' penance equate to no melee attacks taken at all, or no melee health damage

[feral jetty]

No melee health

[serene sage]

They didn't have the Mortis backpacks either

[unkempt lagoon]

whew

ty

[feral jetty]

Toughness only damage doesn't count

Towards failing it

Believe me I thought it was toughness too lol

[serene sage]

You can take toughness damage.
Also Buster damage isn't melee

[feral jetty]

Is it not?

What about mutants tho

[delicate harbor]

But be aware, a dog jumping on a target next to you, deals 1 true damage that goes through full toughness.

[feral jetty]

I assume if you get charged by a mutie it's gg lmao

[feral jetty]

I don't think corruption damage counts

If it isn't a melee corruption like dog

[delicate harbor]

And you just told me you can’t read. Its TRUE DAMAGE

[feral jetty]

I got corruption on the mission I got the penance on and still got it

[feral jetty]

You gotta be hostile like that why exactly?

[delicate harbor]

I’m not hostile I am observant

[unkempt lagoon]

got backstabbed with no audio cue and thought it was jover

[delicate harbor]

And don’t sugarcoat it

[feral jetty]

Telling me I can't read then all caps ing me is pretty mad looking

Ngl

[serene sage]

Depends. If you have enough Confirmed Kill stacks you are fine
If you have Overshield, you are likely fine

[delicate harbor]

Have to make it obvious to you I guess.

[unkempt lagoon]

holy shit

[feral jetty]

Could have just said something like "it isn't corruption it's true damage"

Instead of being a dick

[turbid frigate]

What's the best blessing on assault cadian chainsaws?

Sword*

[delicate harbor]

I did, by writing it’s true damage.

[white minnow]

dogs no longer deal damage when staggering you right?

[delicate harbor]

And true damage is not corruption damage.

[white minnow]

I'm p sure that was changed in a previous patch

[feral jetty]

Yes I didn't read it right but no reason to be a ripe asshole about it

[spice wadi]

helo aroctrah

[feral jetty]

Alo

[spice wadi]

arcotash

[serene sage]

There's no consensus afaik
I like Rampage Bloodletter

[white minnow]

die mittins

[spice wadi]

WHA

[spring spindle]

How I look: Normal dude

How I feel: Like I’m on the cover of DOOM

[feral jetty]

Why mittns gotta die wtf

:(

[white minnow]

he must

[feral jetty]

But y

[spice wadi]

i do not deserve to be killed

[delicate harbor]

👍

[white minnow]

for world peace and to lower gas prices by 10 cents

[spice wadi]

only 10 cents

[feral jetty]

Only lmao

[white minnow]

11 cents

[feral jetty]

12 or keep it

[spice wadi]

would world peace not lower gas prices

[autumn perch]

Does anyone want a copy of don’t starve together on steam

[feral jetty]

Damn I guess it would actually prolly

[hard briar]

No

[spice wadi]

i am already well fed

[feral jetty]

Maybe

[delicate harbor]

I’m calling out your inability to read, but you call me a ripe asshole… you sure are an oxymoron.

Don’t know, but I think it’s poggers.

[hard briar]

Patch 13 has been a blight upon the Chats.
Before the False Prophets

[gleaming turtle]

Anyone got an MGXII or MGIa build they would swear by? I scrolled through the build thread for all posts that were a month or less old, and they all use Plasma, Headhunter, or Columnus.

[hard briar]

They weild knives and think Lacerate + Flesh tearer is bis

they call corruption "True Damage"

They say dogs are "undodgable"

[delicate harbor]

Since when is corruption “true damage”? True damage is, by definition, damage that cannot be reduced by any means, making its value “true”.

And we got bloody curios to reduce corruption based damage.

[unkempt lagoon]

I think i just failed On Overwatch because I didn't join with the rest of the team but it was still right at the beginning

[celest vine]

Youll need a good chainsword with bleed on shredder use

To compensate for your lack of big target killing power

[gleaming turtle]

As opposed to poking eyes out with the Mk. 6?

[delicate harbor]

And it’s the worst blessing but I love movement on activation

[serene sage]

You can get away with krak nade as well

[celest vine]

Doesnt really matter your secondsry blessing, its there to kill crushers and bosses

[delicate harbor]

Krak for hard, rest for soft.

[celest vine]

Shredder frag is for hoards

[spice wadi]

Mk6 will whip chainsword with the push attack combo

[celest vine]

Lets you cut through hoards after bleeds are gone

[delicate harbor]

Hordes. Hoards is what a dragon has.

[serene sage]

Tinkered Shredder is very capable vs large targets as well

[celest vine]

Spelling be danned

[delicate harbor]

Damned*

[celest vine]

Shid

[serene sage]

TTK is a lot worse since bleed but it does a lot of damage regardless

[delicate harbor]

headpats

[delicate harbor]

They took away like 3 bleed stacks from my ogryn…

[celest vine]

Yeah but the point if the sword is for the special abimity

14 bleed stacks plus high damage

[delicate harbor]

Bro you drunk?

😄

[celest vine]

Booze and gaming is great

[delicate harbor]

“Abimity”

[celest vine]

Itll kick into overdrive soon

[delicate harbor]

I mean.., yeah, that sounds like the proper drunken mumbling spelling.

[spice wadi]

With a decent Mk6 you just 2 or 3 shot crushers/maulers at most, I don't rate bleed on chainsword much altho the weapon itself has gotten way better in the patch

[serene sage]

You're Mom

[delicate harbor]

I love the parry on the Catachan Swords.

Counters Ragers

The only enemy I really have issues with

[spice wadi]

I'll run a dclaw when I stop using guns that can't kill carapace probably

[queen fox]

collateral is the dump stat, right?

[spice wadi]

cant remember what it does

its been a while since I picked up my shredder

[delicate harbor]

And then Crushers: “Parry this you filthy casual!” overhead swing And I’m like “okay!”

[queen fox]

stagger and suppression

[spice wadi]

I don't trust the shark's game stability enough to get into the crusher parry game

[hard briar]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-06-2022/yRcfGa.gif

[gleaming turtle]

What were you thinking for perks? Flak and Maniac or something else?

[spice wadi]

guy tryna get me to put my fork into the mains socket

[dark flower]

https://tenor.com/view/nanomachines-son-metal-gear-senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-gif-20057254

[celest vine]

Flaks is a must

[gleaming turtle]

ofc. Just not sure about the seconday. Weak Spot Damage?

[celest vine]

Whatever for your second, maniac or crit damage/chance

[gleaming turtle]

Fair enough

[celest vine]

This is what you want

[hard briar]

https://tenor.com/view/rules-of-nature-my-reaction-to-that-information-gif-25667526

[gleaming turtle]

Salvo? For like... breakpoints?

[celest vine]

Crit weakspot i non negotiable

I threw it on there to experiment

[gleaming turtle]

Ah

[celest vine]

Salvo, headhunter, and infernus are great choices

Headhunter is the best out of them all

[elder relic]

Do you use helbore

[celest vine]

No

I dont find it fun at all

Maybe for a game of being a sniper, but rifleman is more my style

[elder relic]

I keep getting mk3s but yeah they're rough

[celest vine]

Mk 2s shoot really fast so

[elder relic]

Psyker usually brain bursts or assails most stuff you can snipe at anyway

[celest vine]

With whatever the chaining perk is you can shoot fully charged Mk2 shots faster than an MG12

But I personally dont find it fun

[elder relic]

I should roll for an mk2 then, it also has the superior melee

[celest vine]

It melees the fastest

[elder relic]

Not a dumb cleave

[celest vine]

You wont get stuck in a goofy animation like with the Mk3

But you cant 1 hit headshot crushers

Mk3 is better for what the lucius is supposed to be

Snipe High value targets

[elder relic]

Yea if there weren't psykers dpsing most of them already it might be more viable

[celest vine]

MG1A is better imo cause of its faster fire rate

Its more versatile

Lucius lasguns are DMRs, Infantry Lasguns are assault rifles

[dapper vessel]

Hammerblow? More like hammer BLOWS

[fathom edge]

i missread impact for power

and got excited

[ruby totem]

What are recons then?

[celest vine]

Fully automatic

[ruby totem]

SMGs?

[elder relic]

honestly i prefer the vraks 7 just cuz its consistent

[scenic bronze]

When the muty hits just right

[celest vine]

Theyre assault rifles set to full auto

[ruby totem]

Now I want an SMG las

[celest vine]

Infantry lasguns are assault rifles set to semi

[ruby totem]

nice n compact

[celest vine]

Which is actually how real life works

Automatic fire is rarely used

[queen fox]

pls learn how guns work and what distinguishes various categories from others

[celest vine]

Im saying that to make it easy

💀

[forest maple]

How is this looking? I've been taking it to auric t5's today and it aint bad

[queen fox]

dmr is not a type of rifle, its an organizational and logistical designation for the gun used by the designated marksman

[ruby totem]

I just think it's funny how recons are bullpup and kantraels aren't like the barrel length matters lol

[queen fox]

designated marksman's rifle

[celest vine]

Nit pick somewhere else everyone knew what I meant

[queen fox]

i will nit pick right here, right now

[ruby totem]

Maybe there's some rotating lens in front of the battery pack in the recon to keep the lenses cool as it rapid fires

[celest vine]

Okie dokie smokie

[misty delta]

imagine non bullpup recons they’re already long as is

[elder relic]

thatd be a hellgun

[ruby totem]

My question is just why lol. Lasers don't need to accelerate

[celest vine]

But yeah, snipe with the lucius

Thats why its there

The iron sights blow, but youll get used to them if you try

[queen fox]

assault rifle is also not a military rifle designation, its a civilian one

[hearty panther]

DMR actually stands for "Dick's Mega Railer" but once they caught onto the joke they changed it and fired Richard, the weapon's inventor

[queen fox]

mostly used by news papers tbh

[dapper vessel]

its outclassed by other melee weapons.its usage is mainly dependant on player skill

[queen fox]

no company sells something they call 'assault rifle'

[misty delta]

oo okay I dont know much about warhammer lore so that’s cool to know

[queen fox]

SMGs are fully automatic weapons firing rounds usually found in handguns

thats it, no other changes

[forest maple]

Definitely better weapons out there but its very good defensively and it does good damage aswell

[tall torrent]

Scab gunner unironically has mad drip

[ruby totem]

I thought they were much machine guns who didn't want to dom

bottom machine guns

[celest vine]

Why cant we get scabgunner drip

[forest maple]

What is the third eye for

[celest vine]

Uh

[forest maple]

or dont tell me he has 3 eyes

[celest vine]

It looks intimidating?

[tall torrent]

Prob NVG tech

[celest vine]

Its chaos so maybe

[ruby totem]

Symbol of Nurgle is 3 circles right?

[celest vine]

[queen fox]

nah they're machine guns with small barrels, firing lighter loads

[elder relic]

even heretics get nvgs and not acolytes 😒

[tall torrent]

But not organized in that fashion

[celest vine]

I think its there in game to distinguish

[rose verge]

So what's the deal with One in the Chamber? Spent a game massacring with the last shot in my shotgun and didn't get the achievement. Does it mean, "kill 8 guys with the last shot", or "kill one guy eight times with the last shot"?

[tall torrent]

It’s prob night vision tech

Scab sniper also wears smth similar

[celest vine]

Normal riflemen from gunners

[ruby totem]

counter point:

[celest vine]

Riflemen have two eyes gunners have 3

[tall torrent]

Could be both nurgle’s representation and NVG

[celest vine]

Im gonna chock it up to a gameplay design

[ruby totem]

Or we're both wrong and it's actually just his backup goggle

[celest vine]

Makes it easier to tell whats what

[tall torrent]

None of the other scabs wear nurgle’s symbol I think

[ruby totem]

The one his mom bought for him so he feels obligated to have it on

[celest vine]

Eye of horus

Why cant we get moebean guardsman cosmetics

[ruby totem]

I'm sure one day we will

[celest vine]

Would love to have a non corrupted version of this

Goes hard

[frank ether]

oh good I'm gonna have so much fun accidentally magdumping teammate vets

[ruby totem]

But it'll probbly be a bit. something maybe about "Not wanting to confuse players with similar looking models" or something

[celest vine]

Shoot da spikey ones boyz

[ruby totem]

My wager is it'll be once the ideas start running out and it's the last set before we start getting goku and rick sanchez skins

[tall torrent]

DRG has friendly fire active and a cosmetic pack that allows u to wear parts made from dead glyphids

[celest vine]

Ill delete the game if that happens

[frank ether]

not before biden blast psyker skin

[celest vine]

Psyker forgot his prune muffin and has an aneurysm

[frank ether]

It will have a voice mod on the helmet

[ruby totem]

Walking up to the assassination target like "Your time is up, Jack" and then you rub your leg hair all over him

[celest vine]

He’ll take crush pop out behind the wood shed

[strange grove]

My zealot shaves his legs

[ruby totem]

Good thing it'll be a psyker skin

[strange grove]

Is Lawbringer vet a thing or a meme build?

[ruby totem]

I heard Lawbringer got better in P.14

I hear flachette is good on it?

Not my take, I haven't fucked around with it at all

So grain of salt, and all that

[frank ether]

I havent seen a shotgun vet in

well

last time was in beta? lmao

[strange grove]

Only 1 way to find out. Queue for auric damn and see

[tall torrent]

Scattershot + flechette not bad

[celest vine]

Shotgun is really good for getting the “make every shot count” penance done

Thats a plus

[strange grove]

Mine has no respite and the close range kill one

[candid tundra]

take this to gold or are the stats too shit? I have another one with volatile (which I don't really think I should upgrade) and a 344 one

here are the others

[ruby totem]

I went shotgun vet for like 2 weeks straight before patch 13. Kantrael felt fuckin great

Ran into a few others at the time too

[tall torrent]

Harvest volatile IV

[candid tundra]

that was the plan

I think I showed you last light

night*

autocorrect

[frank ether]

I tried and just couldnt enjoy it

just not for me and thats k

[astral blade]

I wonder what dlc classes the vet will get

[balmy flume]

Well no rescue mission.
But definitely a new boss I am guessing.

[hearty panther]

so yea powersword 6 is p. fkn cracked

only just got around to it again

lots of fun tech to use and play with it

[sick marsh]

bloodthirsty worth on chainsword?

[glacial peak]

which node is the funny one that turns off stuns?

its demo team right?

[midnight mortar]

Grenade tinkerer.

[glacial peak]

got it ty

[gritty dock]

I have a question: If we modify Perk or Blessing in a weapon, is there a limit to how many times we can change it?
Can we change as many times as we want?
Of course selected 2 of 4 in weapons.

[midnight mortar]

The slots you choose to modify can be modified an infinite number of times.

[gritty dock]

thx

[small wraith]

meta

[wooden brook]

going for the general patton look today

[umbral scaffold]

atleast you didnt say montgomery

[wooden brook]

If I could, I totally would

Monty was a legend

and so was patton

nailed it

[midnight mortar]

Patton's worse frankly. Montgomery's the better choice.

[wooden brook]

Patton was a brilliant general. He actually cared about his men.

So did monty

[midnight mortar]

If you call not believing PTSD to be real and urging his soldiers to kill surrendering combatants as caring about his men, then sure.

Monty never screamed at his men while they were recovering in hospitals.

[wooden brook]

The PTSD was a single newspaper article written by a single journalist.

*who was anti-patton

[midnight mortar]

Haha, alright.

[wooden brook]

look it up

[dusk idol]

it’s solid, can pull me through histg5 even when I bring wack ass melee weapons

i have no respite full bore on mine

[wooden brook]

The point is, the general that got the glory in WW2 would get the presidency. This is why patton was benched. and Ike got put incharge of all allied forces. It was a political decision, nothing more.

They were scared patton might become president!

That would have been hillarious.

[umbral scaffold]

monty was also a p*do 💀

yes a cool general but bruh still

[feral jetty]

what perks do yall use on the MKVI Power Sword?

[shell ginkgo]

Not once but twice!

[feral jetty]

[shell ginkgo]

[shell ginkgo]

Power Cycler IV and Rampage/Slaughterer/Brutal Momentum

[feral jetty]

perks not blessings silly

[spark sandal]

Worthy of my milk?

[finite imp]

your wha

[shell ginkgo]

Oh

[spark sandal]

Milk coin

[feral jetty]

melk bux

[umbral scaffold]

stability is abysmal

[shell ginkgo]

Uhh, usual flak + maniacs for me

[umbral scaffold]

id say pass

[feral jetty]

wait they kinda do look like milk coins don't they huh

[finite imp]

i stg yall come up with this stuff on the fly

[feral jetty]

shiet

[umbral scaffold]

unless you wanna spray

[viral nacelle]

This “use all the ammo” penance is a pain in the ass. My accuracy is well within requirements, issue is other vets with their trait giving me ammo 😂

[midnight mortar]

Yep.

[umbral scaffold]

stay out of their aura

[spark sandal]

Mans name is Melk, sounds like Milk, carries milk coins. He is the Milkman

[feral jetty]

what's a carapace vs flak armoured enemy? is it like mauler/crusher is carapace and the other guys with slight armor is flak?

[feral jetty]

I like your line of thinking

[midnight mortar]

Hit an enemy in the meat grinder.

[shell ginkgo]

Maulers are carapace in the head and flak everywhere else.

[midnight mortar]

It tells you what kind of armor you're matching your damage against.

[feral jetty]

ah

fair lol

[midnight mortar]

Infested, Unarmored, Flak, etc.

Some enemies have different types depending on where you hit them.

[umbral scaffold]

they should add more carapace armoured enemies types

[shell ginkgo]

Carapace is the head of a mauler, crushers and a few tiny patches on the ogryn gunners

[umbral scaffold]

i think it would be funny

[shell ginkgo]

I dunno if Bulwark's got any carapace armor

[umbral scaffold]

nope

[midnight mortar]

Bulwark's bracers are carapace aren't they?

[shell ginkgo]

I don't think so

[umbral scaffold]

bulwark is unyielding afaik

[midnight mortar]

Also the Crusher is almost entirely covered in carapace.

[shell ginkgo]

I know their shield hitbox is stupid, though

[feral jetty]

I really like the perks/blessings and the stats except cleave targets on this

[shell ginkgo]

[midnight mortar]

No the Bulwark's body is

[feral jetty]

that low cleave targets is uh

ow

[midnight mortar]

But I think they're wearing some bracers that count as armor.

[feral jetty]

but I got rampage 3 and cycler 4 so

neat?

[midnight mortar]

I'd boot up DT to check if I could.

[umbral scaffold]

i think you might be hitting too close to the hitbox of the shield maybe ?

try recording

[shell ginkgo]

powered up swings should be fine

?

Maybe.

[midnight mortar]

Nah if you hit the shield you don't get any damage.

[feral jetty]

I like the look of it overall

[midnight mortar]

I'll just boot up DT and check.

[shell ginkgo]

o

Bulwarks have armor

On their LEGS

[feral jetty]

at least their shins are protected lmao

[shell ginkgo]

And small patches on arms

[midnight mortar]

Is it their bracers? And are they flak or carapace?

[shell ginkgo]

Carapace

[midnight mortar]

That's what I thought. Thanks.

[umbral scaffold]

huh would you look at that the shied counts as carapace even though it acts as deflected

[midnight mortar]

It's carapace, but hitting it deals no damage to the Bulwark then?

[shell ginkgo]

Ya, shield counts as carapace but I guess its special

[umbral scaffold]

plasma goes trough

[shell ginkgo]

Melee: 1x
Ranged: 1x
Default: 0x

That'll do it.

[midnight mortar]

Weirdly enough, this apparently isn't armor.

But the shoulder pauldron is.

[gritty dock]

I don't like weapons with low stability.
I think this is the most important parameter in firearms.
So what if the rest of the parameters are good, if the spread of the bullets is so large that they do not hit the target.

[spark sandal]

I'm not sure hwo much it matters on the headhunter, just recalling the stability is completely fake on Helbores

At least with deadshot it is.

[gritty dock]

I don't know in detail how it works in a given weapon model.
I only checked on a few weapons.
Experts need to comment on this model. 🙂

[quasi tulip]

Ive never noticed stability affecting on any of the weapons

[umbral scaffold]

thats 40k for u

all pauldron

[gritty dock]

This is probably most noticeable when shooting continuously or in bursts without aiming.
But I'm not an expert, but I somehow like to have this indicator high. 🙂

[umbral scaffold]

never had any weapon with stab low so i wouldnt really know but i think this is the general idea of how it works ?

[limber fractal]

needed that 80%dmg for perfection

[dark flower]

except pinning isn't perfection right now

teehee

[limber fractal]

it is to me ;-;

[stone birch]

its probably important to have a variety of end game gear; even if suboptimal. Never know when Fatshark decides the revolver or PG need to stop being cool. Looks like an awesome bolter; tho I woulda put cavalcade on it lol

[limber fractal]

I'm loving it right now, can basically one shot boss enemies lol

[dusty nacelle]

Is there a reason to use the IAGs over the plasma gun?

[gritty dock]

I played a lot of LFD2, it's a very good game.
But over time it becomes routine and monotonous.
I'm not talking about PvP games.
However, here in Darktide, these rewards after winning a match and building weapons is very cool.
For me, this randomness and difficulty in building weapons is good because it takes us longer to find what we want.
You can also have different builds for different missions/enemies.
This was not the case in LFD2 and there was no Talent tree either.

[forest blaze]

Never

[ruby totem]

if you find it fun sure. that's always my main recommendation first and foremost

[dusty nacelle]

I did find it fun until I played with a vet who had a plasma gun and literally killed every specialist and elite before I could even get halfway through my mag Lol

[ruby totem]

Some people find the plasma super monotonous. Me? It's my fav gun because of the cooling mechanic

[dusty nacelle]

so i've been thinking of switching it

[forest blaze]

😂

[dusty nacelle]

It juts felt wrong for me to try and play vet without a rifle but I'll try getting a good plasma

[forest blaze]

It has its limitations

[ruby totem]

Especially in the ammo dept.

[forest blaze]

For example, you’re going to have to figure out ways to deal with shooters that aren’t specials because you can’t just pump ammo at them

[ruby totem]

My natural playstyle keeps my ammo high though

I play like a zealot vet hybrid

[stone birch]

these guys make me wince a bit on my hellgun build. Just gotta be faster I spose lol.

[dusty nacelle]

Well I feel like I could just shout and then dodgeslide towards them with a melee right?

[ruby totem]

When specials are spread out more, other guns will make up the gap

In tight hallways the plasma shines

Collaterals are abundant in those situations

[dusty nacelle]

Maybe I just play bad cuz even when the specials were super spread out they'd all get 1shot anyways

I'll just try anyways, there's no reason not to try it out

[ruby totem]

Well yes, they get one shot, but it takes longer to kill all of them due to the plasma's heat mechanic

[elder relic]

as long as you can hand-aimbot anything

[tawny badger]

hey yall I wanna dust off this ol lasgun how do I make it cooler

[elder relic]

change ghost for the dmg on stagger one maybe

[ruby totem]

Feels good

Whoops didn't realize I got Hadron in that lol

[elder relic]

your prayers have indeed been answered

lucky karker

[dusty nacelle]

On a plas is blaze away better than shattering?

[ruby totem]

Law of large numbers my friend

[dusk idol]

for your use yes

[ruby totem]

Generally, yea

[dusty nacelle]

for my use?

[ruby totem]

I usually don't find anything is left of the target for shattering to matter. A pile of goo taking extra damage isn't big team utility

[dusk idol]

shattering impact applies rending to your target as a debuff, which means if it is armoured your team mates do more damage to it

however the plasma gun doesn’t care about brittleness

[ruby totem]

I thought rending was for you only and brittleness was your team?

[dusk idol]

brittleness is rending applied as a debuff

[dusty nacelle]

oooh

[dusk idol]

where as rending is just a buff to you

[ruby totem]

I've been mislead on the internet

how dare

who would do such a thing

[dusk idol]

this information is still true

[ruby totem]

Oh wait

Yea. Sorry it's been a long day

[trim steppe]

Melk thinks the best person to offer this to is my psyker

[dusk idol]

so blaze away which offers power (more damage on top of other things) is better for your use

whereas shattering impact would benefit your team, though in my experience not a whole incredible amount

[dusty nacelle]

That makes senseee

[edgy condor]

Alright veteran chat, what should I alter on this?

[elder relic]

run that with scrier see many crits you get

[dusk idol]

you could change specialist to maniac/flak/unyielding/carapace, not sure on the specific breakpoints they’d offer but they’re all good afaik.

can change shattering impact to blaze away

[trim steppe]

I'd change the perks to Unyeilding and maybe Flak? Shattering Impact isn't the best blessing but they don't matter too much honestly.

[dusk idol]

or alternatively you can change infested to the same maniac flak etc etc

[trim steppe]

Blaze Away is good but it falls off the plasma so fast I find it very situationally useful

[tall torrent]

Infested to unyielding/flak
Shattering Impact to Blaze Away

Or swap both perks

[dusk idol]

for clicking lmb a lot, won’t see much use for either impact or blaze away on single target one shots

[tawny badger]

im fucked aint I

[trim steppe]

On my plasma, taking flak let me hit a bunch of breakpoints for 1-shot body shots on various elites and specials, and unyeilding let me consitently 2 shot bulwarks and reapers

[edgy condor]

I'm thinking of just leaving shattering impact on. I've heard volatile is bugged anyway to actually hurt your damage, blaze away is very situational and requires spamming non charged shots which I don't often do. I'm thinking of just swapping both perks, one to maniac and maybe the other to unyielding for bosses? That's if I can reliably oneshot crushers without carapace damage

[tall torrent]

Not that bad I think? See if this can help stagger crushers

[dusk idol]

on your plasma, it would

if your charge rate was like 78% it would actually boost your damage

[tawny badger]

ok I can fix this

[tall torrent]

Swap both blessings probably

Uncanny + decimator

[trim steppe]

Shoot it at some stuff in the psykanium, see what breakpoints you're close to. I didn't see much benefit to maniac, flak gave me better milage

but yeah i'd change both perks

[edgy condor]

you mean like my other plasma has? Why is 78% charge rate specifically mattering here? I definitely don't understand the math of why that matters

[dusk idol]

you probably won’t be able to reach the one shot bp on crushers without carapace though, i think they live with an inkling of health

[edgy condor]

sry forgot to actually post photo of my other plasma:

[dusk idol]

charge rate itself impacts damage negatively above or below 73% which is why volatile makes damage inconsistent and fluctuate

because fatshark code

[trim steppe]

charge rate is code spaghetti and affects damage, so things that interact with the charge speed change hte gun's damage. its wonky and hard to understand, i just trust the people that tested it thoroughly

[dusk idol]

however if you have high charge rate and volatile, for some reason damage begins to raise again

again, fatshark coding

[unique oracle]

If anybody wants to do on overwatch penance message me!

[edgy condor]

hmm, so even though you can't explain why, if I'm understanding correctly, my 78% charge rate plasma with volatile is actually pretty great cause of the weird coding?

[trim steppe]

I took carapace on my plasma for a while to 1-shot crushers with full charged headshots, but on actual missions I found that I rarely got the shots off properly and needed to 2-shot them anyway. so i dropped carapace for flak

[dusk idol]

it’s not a massive damage boost, pre-13 it did affect breakpoints though

[forest blaze]

I like unyielding over carapace but otherwise looks good

[dusk idol]

I haven’t tested it post 13 to see what if any breakpoints are hit or missed

frankly a profane max damage roll plasma would still carry you through histg, it’s just a good weapon

[tawny badger]

I cooked

[quaint valve]

Just took this through hi-int shock auric 5. Can verify that it slaps. Also officially converted to a claw sword user 🙂

[willow badger]

what perks for pc4 power sword?

[quaint valve]

mk3 or mk6?

[willow badger]

mk6

[tawny badger]

dclaw....
https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-peak-fiction-one-piece-gif-26139262

[quaint valve]

whats your other blessing?

[willow badger]

best i got is brutal momentum

iv

[trim steppe]

brutal momentum and pc4 are bis

[willow badger]

oh shit for real?

[quaint valve]

thats actually super good, BM + PC on Mk6 is best

[trim steppe]

yup

[willow badger]

sadly it's only a 355

[quaint valve]

post pic

[quaint valve]

oh its totally fine

[dusk idol]

still a decent distribution

[willow badger]

oh shit

i didn't even realize it was a mk3

lmfao

this my mkvi

[trim steppe]

i'd change crit perk to elite damage/unarmored/flak and that is a beastly mk3

[quaint valve]

that one is ok to take up, mobility is low but you can learn to block which is what you should be doing with mk6 ps anyway

[willow badger]

yeah i've been practicing with the block cancel and its going alright

i hated the mkvi at first but its growing on me

[trim steppe]

I still dont like it much lol im a mk3 simp all the way

[quaint valve]

trick is to learn the powered push attack followed by light strike

can delete crushers

[willow badger]

i got real lucky in only needing to blue-yellow like 3 swords to get pc4

[trim steppe]

i didnt find one for 200 hours of vet play lmao

[quaint valve]

mk3 still great, but more general with just the sweeping heavys, mk6 has a some combos you need to learn to get the most of out it

[warped roost]

do you get higher rating blessings from blue to yellow than white to blue

[forest blaze]

Yah that combo is silly strong

[willow badger]

f

[ruby totem]

Just had to tell a zealot that a lack of patience is a skill issue lol

[trim steppe]

yeah you do. green to blue is mostly T3s and some t4s

[quaint valve]

Its that feeling when you parry 3 ragers and kill them all

[forest blaze]

I keep rolling PC3 when going blue which just upsets the piss out of me

Can’t hit PC4 if it rolls PC3

[vivid ocean]

man, why can bots trigger DHs

[ruby totem]

I refuse to believe PC4 exists

[vivid ocean]

please let us disable them

[ruby totem]

Thus I will never use a PS

[sharp ember]

WYRMWOOD NO

[quaint valve]

RIP

[tawny badger]

dclaw mfs when they see crusher overhead

im dclaw mfs

[forest blaze]

PC3 is actually workable imo. I use it in AM regularly