#veteran-class
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god steam's F12 is such shit quality
So shield and friendly fire
worth a buy?
worth a try
Low penetration tho
Yes
also anyone know how i activate the scoreboard mod
have it installed
gotta put it in your mod list
hey chat, i got a Psword with slaughterer 4 and rampage 3. that is good, right?
if you did it through vortex you need to check the load orders
weird it should work even when you press tab
huh weird
You want to have power cycler on power sword
post a screencap if you can i guess
maybe double check it’s all spelled right?
oh so nabbing a sword from melk with power cycler 4 was good? ^.^
I could've sworn the carapace on crushers used to give blue hitmarkers for light weapons. maybe they changed it
make sure you match the written name with the mod folder name
but I'm an unreliable narrator now
Lucky bastard 
like it's recognized in game
I believe you’re right
oh that’s funky
Yea it was back in the day
hey i got ghost 4 from ugprading a profane xantral mg 12
yeah pretty sure they did on lasguns
:>
yeah idk, I use the old scoreboard mod
I noticed they stopped several patches ago
might go away if you have infernus or smt?
Ghost? I sleep
that bastard is actually capable of selling a power cycler 4 sword? I'm gonna kill him I swear, 4 days in a row with ZERO power swords on offer at all for me
it took me almost a full month to get pc4
i do want to get a pimped out ghost xant mg 12 just to stand infront of a room of shooters and dome em one at a time
Was there a way to modify your hitmarker colors or is that a mod screenshot I've seen somewhere?
they didn’t even have pc3 at the time to tease me with
I’m still trying to get Dum Dum 4 for my Laspistol
speaking of lvl 4 blessings
It’s been almost 2 months
i always gamble my coins on the rng shop, and i got more than what i would've got through buying directly
on average
rumour mill said doing 2ndary objectives in auric 5's boosts blessing quality?
any evidence to that claim?
dunno, sounds a little tinfoil but this is fatshark
“It was revealed to me in a dream”
everything is canon, not everything is true
It’s more cope than anything if you ask me
rumour mill also claims killing daemonhosts boosts end of mission item score and better blessings on it chance, but I've yet to see any proof of that claim
"My beloved told me in my dream!"
becasue afaik 2ndary objectives = grimoire or scriptures, and idk about taking grimoires in auric 5's
yeah it sounds full copium
and like... how would you prove it xD
doubt, we don't have a visual of loot improving mechanics like vermintide 2
I made it tf up
that's not a real line
it's "my source is I made it the fuck up"
I know it's a meme video
:3
and someone probably would've tried to find code evidence of it by now
(I'm just being a pedant)
ikik lol
alright boys I’m gonna go eat a burrito, good luck in your games
Need a good blessing for shovel, already had uncanny strike 4, options?
so by additional modifiers wdym
Actual Armstrong VA
all you need is profane shovel
higher difficulty = better rewards
I mean like
Malestorm damnation versus auric damnation versus auric maelstorm damnation
Hi-STG
Maelstrom modifiers
Etc
but like i was sayin, need a good blessing for shuvlel
casual armory drop
I think the harder the game thinks it is (higher docket payout), the better the rewards
skullcrusher
worth buying from melk?
infernus feels like a non-bo with hellbore
infernus is great on laspistol or the recon las
nah swapping it out for surgical
Big facts
depends on your needs, i take more stam regen for deadshot
I always take stam regen even without deadshot
I go for health over toughness
+9 stamina curios propaganda
i carry one wound, one health and one stamina, always
any reason why the bar extends above 80% btw? can you actually go over?
Not yet
80 is the max
Maybe if reds ever get added
so far
They'll have to buff HP pools and such if they add reds
copium
reds?
When you kill a non-elite, is the toughness regained percentage based?
exotics/legendaries from vermintide 2, same concept
another level above orange
ahh
they basically gave maxed out stats and were otherwise functionally yellows/oranges
ngl seeing exotic/legendary activated my destiny 2 brain
they were rare as fuck in vermintide so good luck
at least in vermintide it was possible to get god rolls without reds :sadge:
Was like 12% chance from emp vault
<just upgrade the orange to red, 4head>
I’ve only ever gotten 2
cousin okri is proud of you
gdi that put me into Oxygen Not Included mode
Deeds are best way to farm reds
I got a little tired of grinding for them. Only ever got like 3.
really need a call back to okri in darktide, "Brother Okri" and hes squat
Legend book runs are boring, but you can get reds from cata deeds and cata wastes which is nice
id say no
I miss having shared curios
charge rate is pitiful
rule of thumb for me when buying melk goods, if it at around 370 - 380 base stats, i dont buy it
Lol the squats make a trade embargo with the rogue traders and "Okri" is the delegate the characters refer to, but you never see. Just like Grendyl.
Since it's so unlikely why care really
I just use melk to farm blessings at this point to hell with actually using the dang thing
naisu
they'll fix it someday (maybe? Doubt it)
turns out grendyl was okri all along
as a big fuck you to the rogue traders
Turns out Grendyl was a squat the whole time.
Grendel's not even a real person He's clearly fake You're being fooled you're being played like a fiddle
"its all squats?"
cocks stub revolver
"always has been"
I rolled like 20 Plasmas just now and 15 of them were over 340. Not bad probabillity wise
must be nice
I got a 508 Plasma with shatter 3 and gloryhunter 3, so good
Lol get the "roll until rating" mod. Have it filter for only 370+
smoking accessory when
Is ammo dump on plasma. It already has ammo issues
Would assume charge since charge shot not that useful
I feel like that should just be an idle animation at this point for veterans.
smoking with my gasmask on
hits nurgle's grade A rotlung smoke leaf Yeah, we're playing danktide tonight
ok i just saw the chart for charge rate -> damage on plasma and wtaf
Funny thing, I think what you wear on your character determines your idle animations.
You'll never see a character scratch their face with a mask on, where if you use a maskless cosmetic, they will.
its hilarious to watch the gasmask on the ogryn wiggle when he talks with the krieger mask
kinda subjective because of the build variety you can afford to lose on dammage now.
i aint trading this anytime soon
Lol was watching my character talk while in 3rd person free look (Have to use 2 mods for it), and I saw the same.
right? some weird like TF2 Pyro fuckin mask physics
oh yeah and like worst case it's 3% less damage which is probably nothing but you know how min maxxers are
Lol
i mean 80 is the max gamer, think of it like a 92%
i understand very well, its the reason this game makes me mald, i cant level up a weapon that isn't at least 80 in 3 stats.
Ikik
Not good enough
it's only like 7 damage difference looking at an 80%
yeah its not gunna break the bank
right now i'm farming blessings
stopping power is the more important one iirc?
you'll still shit on a crusher
72/80 = 0.9. So technically 90%
At least for plas. I think stopping power gets you your breakpoints better on stronger targets iirc
Does it? I thought that was just stagger?
Test the breakpts of the 72 vs 80
Oh wait, damage on stagger. Right
is the chain axe any good ?
eh?
doing a melee build btw hence why i ask
change the flak for maniac and gloryhunter for blaze away or gets hot?
never seen one
ikr?
to be honest? check with your build first
The Emperor knows I am true to the plasma gun, so he rewards me justly
see if you can hit kill ragers
If you have the extra item filters mod, you can filter by base rating. Check Brunt's armory every turn of the hour. You can find a few 380's every now and then that way.
I have one with 4 80% stats on it an it'll just about OHK Ragers if you dome them
My first 550 is going to be a knife. I'm just trying to grind for the T4 Uncanny Strike to complete it.
yeah but some people like using plasmas with executineers stance, in that case you might be able to hit kill.
might
uncharged?
ya
Would have to log in an check, not played it for the last few days
How dare you not include the knife in this.. but technically right if you're only considering how fast you can kill things.
mfw no shovel
spade
shuvlel best
Lel
the spade is literally the best
power sword second best
I'm liking the shovel quite a bit
🤝
Honestly I'm doing less against ragers with my 80% 80% just because I don't have the flak damage
heavy spams on shuvlel make hairyticks brains hurt
dont they take more dmg from unyielding ?
Ha ha boltgun go chunkchunkchubkchunkchunk
The dreg ones do
i never liked using it.
Plasma > Bolter, IMO
Been a Plasma main since day one
the plasma just feels good. been using it since release day
I tried plasma and couldnt get into it but after the rework it fucking S L A P S
the rework gave it much needed change
Bolter does feel better for bosses, yea
i mean, if you can cope with the abysmall ammo management and the fact that 90% of the game you will be using your melee then its golden, i just dont like the playstyle
I would enjoy Boltgun more if the recoil reset wasnt janky as fuck
It doesnt really make it harder to use, its just jarring
You're a regular person firing a gigantic cartridge out of a hilariously large heavy rifle
It's gonna be awkward to fire
Holy shit
naisu
Of course, but its not the recoil being harsh which i take umbridge with
Its the fact it jumps erratically back to centre which makes it look like the animation is skipping frames
think they'll give us that mag fed shotty the dreg shotgunners use?
I like this one a bit more
nice
Uncharged Dreg Rager, but i dont have flak perk either.
What do your talents look like?
MkII does look a bit better on paper for braced autoguns, what's considered the better one for a rending build?
What do I put on power sword aside power cycler
Scuffed
Is kinda half an half melee/ranged
I got brutal momentum on mine but thats me, BM4
15% weak spot damage, weakspot kills ignore hit mass
What is hit mass i dont get
weird because I have the same 80 80 and can't one shot a dreg rager and our left and middle trees are basically the same
So basically when your weapon makes contact with a harder enemy, itll stop on like carapace or flak or monsters
ignoring hit mass means the swing continues, like cleave
But power sword dont stop
charged hits dont stop, but lights and heavies will
someone reported that Exhilarating Takedown was bugged, and actually increasing damage taken. Have you felt squishier?
I see I see
You mainly want bromentum for the weakspot damage on ps
Ah
bromentum i love it
Truly a bro moment
I’ve also seen folks call it Bruhmentum
This is the roll
Same
how does someone use the karkin' plasma gun?
Uhmm... tbh not really, but i dont get hit all that much these days
I just didnt see a reason to run Deadshot, idt it works on Plasma
I've seen people spam normal shot for well normal occasions and charge for heavy dense packs
Thats basically it
So Exhilarating was the only choice
Exhilaring does increase the damage you take, but it can be worth the tradeoff
I take it regardless
I'll take more vent damage if I can get precision strikes
I still get back 15% on kill regardless with that perk
cool
why is everyone so excited to be usin' a plasma gun, anyway?
most of the other plasma gunners in the guard hated their position
cause getting a plasma burn sucks
Because funny whoosh sound and evaporate like 20 shotgunners 
maybe worth it if you hit breakpoints but its kind of 4 points just for 30% weakspot, might be better off going elsewhere until takedown is fixed
Yea I get 2000/2400 with a crit uncharged headshot with this
This isn't my usual plas, just testing with it
Mmm, I wouldnt say its a WHOOSH but more of a WHOOMPH
how would an ogryn handle a plasma gun?
does shattering impact apply to the attack it starts on?
does not 😦
They’d blow themselves up because they don’t know how heat works
that's what I thought
Same reason why ogryns don’t have guns that you have to rack a slide
pull the trigger until it asplodes, needs limiter installed first
Should be able to get OHK breakpoint in Exe' then with uncharged
miniaturized plasma pistols with the plasma can stuck in place, expendable enough to toss as a grenade when it inevitably overheats
Yah they can’t problem solve like that. Ogryn problems.
Oh you're shooting dregs lemme see
i know but ive moved on from the ogryn thoughts
If gun = true, shoot, else find gun
Tediore plasma pistol
Hey is Resupply Allies still bugged?
bought this off melk... guessing it's only good for pc4?
Oh I see it's your maniac damage
Yer, likely
see I thought you were talking scab ragers
Looks great. Has the right blessings. Stars are a little jank and the perks are jank but it’ll kill heretics. Get that PC4
the explosion power is dependent on how much ammo was in the mag when you tossed it
PC4 very worth just to snag blessing
Chat just kinda zoomin by I misread
what's the recommended build for plasmagun?
this is my main one, I can crit oneshot headshot without maniac damage
Looks good. Ideally change sprint to flak or unyielding. Charge rate is really low but volatile should help
where's deadshot on the tree, can't find it
I just run 2 hp 1 toughness on my vet
Yee nice. Kinda jealous you got Gets Hot4 ngl
Never even seen a single tier of that blessing
I have 2 now :p
Literally just consecrated this one up
What do we think about Unyielding on a plasma?
Sure, monstrosity damage, but is it worth giving up carapace?
Love unyielding on plasma
Thoughts on plasma gun vs the IAGs? I've been using the columnus but I played with a vet with a plasma gun and they just literally 1shot everything before I was able to do anything
Which one of the perks should I keep? As I can always modify the one I tweak
They're both pretty good
Just indecisive
Maybe unyielding since maniac is pretty much always good and you’ll be testing unyielding vs flak vs carapace I think
But I could also get maniac to 4...
realizing that most players do not listen to the vocalizations of their characters shocks and surprises me. The AI literally does call outs for ya and so many just, ignore it.
Can give you a breakpoint on Reapers i believe
I don’t take maniac because I one shot all the maniac guys I feel like killing except ragers
right I forgor about reapers
but thats one enemy, so its the same story with Carapace, like pick your poison innit
Pretty much
I like unyielding for weakened monstrosities. You can certainly feel the damage difference.
Bulwarks aint exactly threatening when you have a plasma gun, so personally i dont feel like they're overly worth considering
Yeah thats a point, deffo vs weakend monsters
Sooo, should I get a plasma gun?>
I feel like Flak enemies are naturally weaker than maniac
I love plasma
So I might just keep both
Flak enemies are not normally that big of a deal except the flak ragers and maulers that you’re not always one shotting anyways
Holy shit this thing hits breakpoints nicely
What's a good build/other weapon to use with a plasma?
shuvl
I’ve been using PS6 with plasma and it’s been great. DC is also a good pick.
Ok, out of exec stance it can one shot headshot a reaper on crit lmao
lets fucking go
With plasma you can run any of the actives. Exec for killing most things in one shot. Shout for winning games. Infil for soloing games.
What's the plasma's dump stat? Thermal resistance?
No real dump stats but you want max damage/stopping power with around 70% in the other 3
none really lol
really? hmm
Deadshot talent also doesn’t work with it fyi
for deadshot, what's better - stam or stam recov
alright, hadron was very nice to me with this roll. What do I spend my two changes on?
Stam regen
ty
And Volatile
isn't it bugged rn?
blaze away is better imo anyways. even if it only caps at T3
yes
idk ive heard something about volatile being bad and decreasing damage but if thats the case i don't understand how its doing that
And if later down the line you want it you can just grab T4 volatile anyways
So Volatile
yeah volatile decreases your damage
keep carapace, go for either Unyielding or Maniac
hmm. well i can do blaze away instead of volatile until it gets fixed then. I'm thinking unyielding for better boss damage, but idk. Would maniac let me hit new breakpoints?
A ton of enemies have maniac and yes
You'll be able to 1 shot bodyshot flamers most likely. Idk how it breaks at 75%, but it's likely
Tbh thermal resistance hurts me cause Just means less pew pew
Besides, if you don't like it you can swap it out for unyielding later
i know thats technically a bad dump stat, but I feel I can live with it. It just means I can't spam it too much, and have to treat it more like a sniper, but I already do that anyway
very cool melk
so I currently lack any other sacrificed blessings to replace volatile with. How much is volatile decreasing my damage, since I'm stuck with it for now?
I mean u can live with it since it is a charge plasma build you have to go for it. instead of what i prefer the t3 pew pew blessing with gets hot and flak + maniac
as far as I know
Personally prefer those
Plasma's damaged is tied to the gun's charge rate
and the charged rate that determines the damage is tied to the servers tick rate
Got a better one now with perfect stats but yeah this is just a left click spam plasma
so the faster you shoot your plasma, which by having faster charge rate
Alright this is what I ended with @forest blaze
the less damage you do
But if you don't charge it u go pew pew and don't lose dmg right?
This also means I have all T3 and T4 blessings for the plasma now 
ncie!
the most significant breakpoint to determine this is by having a 76+ Damage and Stopping Power on the Plasma. If you have a Charge Rate of over 76-80. Try doing a quick charged shot against a Trapper, without a Maniac perk. It would most likely result in the Trapper having a few HP left.
also i upgraded a curio and holyshitwhere'dmyplasteelgo
if the charge rate is lower on the 68-73 range, a quick charged shot against a Trapper. Again with 76+ Damage and Stopping Power. It would definitely 1 shot a Trapper.
but I know some people spend waaayyyy more
fuego
Plasma is already good enough on its own as a weapon
Think of the BiS blessings for the weapon as more a bonus
I seen a chart the other day showing how it fucks with damage
Thankfully net positive (by one fucking percent) on 80% charge stat
point at it
Get rid of it
Plasma Gun, available for all of your fucking plasteel.99$
Sick of all you plasma bastards running around with a fucking ionically bond gas cannon launching fart blasts at all my kills.
Deleting crushers while taking a nap
Get gud
Pick up a revolver
Idk plasma doesn't delete carapce as fast as revolver do 2 shot head their on par
Idk did you play maelstrom only melee?
U notice how little atleast left click pew pew does
I only use my plasma if bored I prefer my IAG and Boltor.
Ah i see
That's a good vet
Need some good dakka
Gotta work on a lasgun and laspistol eventually.
Meh
Lasguns are cool and all
But I'm getting up there in the years
It's annoying to have to keep spamming m1
I just wanna spray and learn recoil pattern
My fingeys get mad at me
I'm already a fucking radar technician so they get enough abuse
whats a hard carry build that i can run
melee build ?
Fullauto mod says hello
I mean build build
Gimmie
which power sword is better?
Neither is better than the other. Pick which combo you like and learn it
Hit the fucking deck I'm about to get disagreed with
Pretty sure the meta is ps6
Mark 6 is objectively better now
I prefer PS3 personally cuz of its activation time
thanks
But you do you boo boo
There are no wrong answers if you know what you're doing
I have multiple powerswords with different bs
I tend to stick with ps3
whats the most op build for vet rn
Revolver seems pretty busted, and handcannon is still actually bugged and applies to your melee, also power sword 6
This new plas' breakpoints feel sooooo goooood
So like can it solo carry a game
Plasma is probably the easiest to play and is insanely tanky
I want THAT level of op
Also one shots like everythibg
I've seen some Recon Las builds do that
Nerf hit pretty hard, I think Las pistol can do hold W though now, because ghost gives ranged immunity you don't even need cover, just stand there
Probably closest to a hold W build, has very good hip accuracy, don't even need to right click
whats a dead modifier on shovel ?
not sure if there is much difference on collateral for boltgun since it has such high stagger anyways, might not make any difference at all
looks like 50 collateral is needed to open a bulwark with one shot, so that might be an issue
does stopping power really matter on a lasgun?
Thermal is the dump stat
It helps with armor pen
You can sneak out the kill in one hit you normally wouldnt get
i see and mobility is a dump stat right
yarp
Nah only 347.
Last patch maybe, Recons are suffering this patch
You need the skill backing to do that, builds wont allow you to do it
I was wondering why I couldn't get mine to perform that way
and hadn't seen people running them as much as I had
Yeah they nerfed the 6d an dialed back some of the Rending
Which hurt Recons a lot more than everything else because they're actually pretty shit guns
Why
Yea they definitely went from blegh to wow to mid
recon nerf was probably fine if they didnt make some other junk so good
I wonder what they're gonna do with the vet tree. It could only get better right? 🤞
Really hope they get more changes so they're an effective comparison to IAGs
I still have fun with my recon
We can only hope mate. The contents of the tree isnt really even the issue, its just ordered in such a weird an unhelpful way
I run it with infiltrate
Ah ye its still fun, just not as effective as anyone would like
I have sunder, supercharge, and cycler 4 on my power sword
Read that in an Austin powers British accent
Well at least you twigged that im a Brit 
Cycler 4 is a must I know that
Hard to miss wiv that mug as ya pfp

I think brutal momentum + cycler is current hotness
Kernow mate, propa south
Pc4 + bm4 / rampage 4 (as long as it os bugged) / slaughterer 4
Assume you are an all?
Pc4 + bm4 does wonder on the 6
Oh fair, surprise to see a yanqui use "mug" in that context 
And I've been to Europe so many times it'd make your head spin
Of all the places tho the best banter came from good ole
And the best beer
Any Germans in here lay off I haven't been
We got some good beer for sure, German does too though tbh. Very good infact. Not that i've been there either, but there are the odd import beer stores knockin about
What's your fav draught
Used to have a really good one in my local town, but old boy had to shut up shop during Brexit because of costs
Hmm.. Prolly London Pride, Ghost Ship, or Newcastle Brown
It is aye, good in summer as its pretty light
Whats beer like over there? Im not all that familiar with US offerings
A good Guinness goes a long way in the cold months
Most beer of here is shite
You'd taste Coors lite and probably look at us like we're proper fukt
God the shame

Americans don't even know what good beer fuckin is
I thought small brewries an craft beers had really taken off over there in recent years?
It makes my head swim
They have but wearing a fuckin beanie and selling blackberry cider out of a mini cask doesn't mean it's gonna taste like gods tits
Microbrews are everywhere
Lmao, that bad huh? My condolences
And gods do they love IPA
IPA this IPA that ENOUGH
You wanna find a good glass of wheat beer god help you
Its miserable
And the selection is so numerous and 90 percent of them are just mid
They have but it's locational and America is large.
Yay to that. And our fucked infrastructure doesn't help
But no that's alright we'll just elect a criminal and Bob's your uncle
All our problems will blow over soon lads just hang in there!
God all this talk of beer is making me parched
isnt the graia autogun really good
whats the ideal perks and blessings for Laspistol?
It's like the agri ag and the calumnus had a love child
It's a negotiation between the damage, ammo pool, rpm, and clip size
It's the middle ground in all things but if you're looking for burst damage grab you a columnus
If you want accuracy at range get an agri
If you're not sure grab a graia then think about what you don't like more about it
The graia is deff not a bad rifle by any means, but we vets love that sweet sweet dos
Dps
Also the agri does more damage per shot, but the Columnus shits bullets like rain
At close range you'll be ripping most things to shreds
And if you learn the recoil pattern it can compensate for its weak points
Also the pur hilarity of filling a hallways with bullets and watching the bodies pile up
I love the Columnus. It's the dakka I always dreamed of
Yap over
thanks cook
This is just about perfect as far as not yet altered, right? Not sure what blessings are ideal nowadays but just wanna be sure before I mess with the perks any.
I've heard that a number of times being a problem over the years regarding the US, which is a shame i wont lie
Go getchu one 
Once I hop out of the bath I just might
Thats the spirit 🙏
No need to be drippin on the hardwood
Agri feels like a G3 rifle, Gria an M4, the Columnus a MP5. Best way to explain to new people I think?
That's an amazing chain sword.
Gods do I miss English pubs. It was always raining fuck all but those cozy corner booths next to the windows were hard to beat for atmosphere
And they're actually fucking quiet which is nice
used all my melkbucks to get it, glad it was worth it lol
Maybe to call of duty players
Yar it's a beautiful chainsword
I'd drop the stam for like
Maniac or
Possible pox
If you want a good horder clearer
Graia fires the most right
Nayp
Should I just alter the two perks? The blessings are fine and don't need changing, right?
Like its stupid how many how fast it does
Is it on a vet?
During damnation it's a miracle my fucking barrel don't melt
I could never get the chainsword to cleave like a PS. You'd think with over 300 ish damage in a swing it could cut down at least 4 to 6 poxs in one swing
Yeah.
Red hot
Quiet an some of em are proper old too which only adds to the character of the place. Im pretty blessed with that where i live to be fair. A lot of the pubs are super old buildings with visible beams an the like. Some of em are really beautiful
I always start the night off right with a short glass of cranberry and then go from there
Something to wake the taste buds
Mmm, mouth-fur juice 
Luv me chips
Luv me cranberry
Simple as
IAG's can all overpen unarmored/infested targets
So you might be just getting a lot of overpen headshots
Hallway clearing bullet hoses
bullets will naturally just curve towards enemies even if not precisely aimed on them
I think that's just the hitboxes
Im not even aiming at the target
What's the best 2 blessings for the plasma gun?
Not on my Agri'1 they dont 
Revolver has it i know that, idk about anything else
id say just about every shooter (besides maybe counter strike) has it, just some more than others
Graia has it pretty hard
Nope, just tested that too
Might have to test out the Graia myself then.
Not in my game
You got some kinda aim assist setting on?
No
I know the Vraks VII has an amazingly forgiving headshot hit box though
Sights not even on the left and right zombie
Hitboxes are just generally pretty forgiving tbh
Still manages to hig
You can be half to nearly a full head off target and you still get that sweet helmet crunch
Lasguns dont have it
Josho has some videos of one revolver killing like 7 shotgunners
It's even better when it blows off their entire head lol
Only IAGs
Yeah nah, just generous hitbox, Graia dont have bullet magnetisim
So plasma gun questions. Is it actually good now? And good traits/perks?
Its extremely good yeah
Patch 13 or 14 did specifically say they were improving the hitbox size for the headhunters. Maybe the IAG's got it too?
@viral nacelle I just asked the same question
I have been liking my plasma
Link?
Carapace/Unyeilding/Maniac for perks. I think most people seem to like Gets Hot/Blaze Away it would seem
So yes IAGs have bullet magnetism
No, its literally not
Bullet magnetisim is implying that the bullets change course on the way to the target, a bigger hitbox is exactly as it states, a bigger hitbox
Hitbox being beeg is very different from BM tho,
Very yeah
I’ve been running a Melk one that’s got crummy stats for ammo but good everything else + gets hot. And then volatile which is iffy
Not gonna lie. I’ve been loving the Columnus. Got this one from a mission win and it slaps
Or anything that isnt an IAG
They specifically tuned the hitbox size to weapon
So hitbox magically grows for IaGs
actually only took like 3-4 swords
Which is hilarious but hey. Fatshark managed to code it that way
and like 3-4 matches worth of plasteel
Its literally the same
Idk how tbh
Fitting dialogue 
Headhunters, also the same
now time to find a good powersword
Hadron with the perfect voiceline
once unlocked i can rebless multiple times right
actually cant believe my luck lol
mfw i dont have 93 plasteel to rebeless
Me but I have 5k Diamantine
What autoguns are good rn? Most post-14 builds I find are revolvers ( I don't trust my ability to headshot under fire) or plasma (I'd play psyker if wanted to manage peril), so lil lost on choices
Nope
My guy what even kinda attempt at a test is this shit
Stand like 15m back from a gunner an shoot either side of its head
I just tested all three platforms an there was exactly no difference at all
This video is just you statically spamming shots into the body of poxwalkers
How are people using blaze away on plasma when it has so little ammo? Just not doing charge shot?
Yeah you dont need to charge it up all the time bud
Well then there ya go, just use uncharged shots. Idet Blaze procs on charged shots tbh
Aye thats fair, isnt mine either, but at least its engaging to play now
I like the shout melee build, it’s like being a crappy zealot 😂
Both graia and recon same spot
Aye a lot of people seem to be rating that at the minute
hmm first game as a lasgun psyker not too bad considering I was against a plasma gun vet and teammates who loved to stand in front of me
Most of the braced guns are pretty good IMO. They’re worth a shot. I like MK VIII
Either this has bullet magnetism or the spread on the gun is so ridiculously bad
I just noticed something.
You're on console.
So yeah. it might actually be different on there.
Because its nothing like that on PC
Which Autogun is this again?
REEEE CONSOLE PLEBE
You miss the target, you miss the target
Graia
some of the guns are so bad that aiming is optional tho
Lets fuckin goooo, Scab Melee only on teh board
i got my revolver and my power sword. scavanger active. they gonna die
its for the 5th class, the arbite enforcer or some bullshit like that I bet
tho a death cult assassin would be a cool 5th class too...
give me that.
i thought that was just krak grenades lawl
i think its an unused weapon for either a fifth class in which case we better be getting a bolt pistol for said class and for the psyker or its an unused weapon for EVERY class that isn't ogryn
You noticed it too?
Its a very real thing

the Krak grenades are magnetic but god damn so are the bullets i guess
No aim assist
tbh i use it to just yeet my grenades at distance knoiwing they will hoam in on bulwarks and crushers lolol
what perks to throw on there?
Bullets will go literally 45° to the left
It would seem like a console specific issue
Like thats not an aim assist thing
I would make a bug report

Either that or its by design
I have it turned off
Melee crit damage for flak/elites
To make aiming on pad easier
the machine spirit is aiding you
Krak does on Pc
thats just a feature of the grenade, the bullets thing is different, clearly
I aint hitting stuff thats not in the crosshair in my game
guided by the hand of stalin himself
Like i said, probably a console accessibility thing
Never seen none of the PC crowd talk about it, thats for sure
rampage + savage sweep/wrath
TY
can you even get a 360 rate weapon from brunts armory?
u can get 380s from brunt's yea
even 380, just rare and annoying to farm, +dockets curio perk OP 
Never thought about trying figured it be useless\
just spent 1.2 million dockets and 20k plasteel to get 4 T4 blessings for the shovel

brunt is swimming in money
Brunt puts the goblin tinkerer from terraria to shame
but its ok
I have accepted my fate
crafting rework will take another year probably if they do it
so just gonn ahave to cope till then
bolter build?
What do people run got blessings on the Las x11 rifle?
hadrons gonna build a 4th hive city with all the plasteel
what should I go with, brutal momentum or wrath on a power sword
share ur drip squad
brumo
Question. For the penance with having 90% accuracy. As one as one shotgun pellet hits does it basically count as a full hit?
if the shot completely whiffs it's a miss, if it hits at least one target it's a hit
So as long as it hits at all
yea per trigger pull
Gotcha. Thanks
Commissar LilVip here to say prayers with the Ogryn so they get in the transport.
So guys....las gun vs auto gun, any particular benefits between them?
Laspistol is best pistol
Well the autogun has janky bullet magnetism for 1

maan I was wondering why I was getting some repeated bot level teammates and I just noticed im getting squads of full xbox players
Inquisitorial stormtrooper
I mean like is auto gun better for non armored? Or just more suppression?
I don't use the bolter much. Thoughts?
Kills crushers good
Lasguns are better on ammo
Are more precise
Should I pick that up from Melk or not worth it?
Save imo
Hmm so far no reason to use auto guns XD
Do you have anyhing better and will actually use it?
do melee attacks count towards the accuracy goal in the "make every shot count" pennance?
They shoot faster
welp, i just banked rampage 4 into my blessing archive
And some penances can be done by autoguns only
Faster than the recon las guns?
can autoguns pen carpace better?
One of rhem is just as fast
I have a plasma gun that I think is better and will use more. Theoretically I like bolters though lol. half the time I just get Melk stuff for the blessings and I don't know what's good on the bolter
And theyre better on ammo
Cause shocktrooper dont work for recon las
I find the infantry lasgun sights to be better and clearer than most
Thats a personal opinion thing tho
Almost all autoguns are fully auto, and controllable too
That’s the one where you have to have e no ammo left right
correct
It shouldn’t
You can spam melee and grenades all you like
ty
Shout does count if I remember right
No problem man
Dont use it
If you’re gonna use shout make sure you hit something
its my friend who is trying to get it
I got that penance not trying to when I played scab melee only no ammo pickups with the revolver
The revolver has a pretty low ammo refund only one shot per elite kill
Gave big man his own dueling sword
ill tell him that, thank you
that kinda looks badass
"Dueling sword" Who tf is he dueling a plague marine???
I like how half the time a human sized enemy headshot with the bolter blows them in half.
Chum looks like he’s about to fling shit at an Arasaka exec
no ammo drops modifier is the best modifier by far. it is sooooo good
Me when I run out of the ammo for the 90% penance and I look at the horde and the shovel in my hand like
“It’s free real estate.”
silent maulers pls ffs
Best assassin in the game
One shots you
Silent or makes a very little noises before attacking
Not sure what I want to do to finish this off. Unarmored to maniac? What say you
Does shock trooper work with recon las?
yes
Yes
Pog thanks
Ah, I remember the shit days of needing 100% accuracy
Thank god the plasma has a big projectile
Autoguns atm are amazing
all I can say
use or break down for the lvl 4 dumdum
The main draw of lasguns is ammo efficiency and the helbore being really really good
Not bad
take dum dum off imo, put it on a columnus
Not perfect but not bad
the collectathon part in me wants to just break it down for the blessing
Graia is great if u want precise accuracy beyond 25m
I'd extract dumdum
And try to get better IAG
Not that hard
Its less short range deeps than the columnus but its still "only" 3k
You should use the IAGs
already done
:P
plink plink plink plink
Get dum dum
Mk8 infantry autogun is not as good as mk5 as a whole
the PSs dont share blessings right?
Mk5 can get really good spray accuracy at surprisingly long distances when u crouch & are stationary
Its better at the 25m range
They do
they do
Yea but this is slower than the Mk 8
Because of falloff?
Force or chainsword?
Because you can burst down gunners before recoil kicks in without needing to crouch
And its recoil on the move is actually quite controllable
Hey @tall torrent can I get your thoughts, how should I finish this off
This is nearly perfect wtf
The main thing is yes the columnus kills fast, but it still does miss a fair bit at 25+m
Right
Graia u can just land 3x crit headshots and merc a guy
I wish mk8 had a little better dps to boot
Its dps is amazing thou
Not as good as Columnus
If you run deadshot you don't miss that much with columnus too
"Only" 2.5k vs most things vs 3k
So which would you use then Grawr?
As long as deadshot activates that is
Mk1 is also decently accurate?
Personal preference
I tried using the devil claw
Yeah just tried the braced and god damn
Which do you like best though?
It is but Mk 1 doesnt have as nice crit strings
Also noticed the weird magnet thing
Fucking the powersword just makes every other weapon suck
I don’t run deadshot with them so eh
Buff the fucking devil claw sheesh
I use them interchangeably. Columnus when im going balls to the wall, graia when I wanna chill
Id you shoot beaide their heads thebauto guns seem to deflect off metal heads, and hit the next guy still
WE DONT CHILL HERE NOT ONE STEP BACK
MAKE EM SCREEEEAM
Devil claw is good tho
Maybe I'm fucking using it wrong
Also found that apparently the only head hinter model i did was the only single ahot auto gun....didnt realize the kthers wete burst firs
