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spark hamlet
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bulkwark shield

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ogryn butt

ruby totem
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god steam's F12 is such shit quality

tall torrent
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So shield and friendly fire

willow badger
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worth a buy?

tall torrent
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Never noticed

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Can buy & farm for blessing

dusk idol
tall torrent
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Low penetration tho

livid warren
willow badger
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also anyone know how i activate the scoreboard mod

spark hamlet
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big number

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so yes

willow badger
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have it installed

dusk idol
stone birch
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hey chat, i got a Psword with slaughterer 4 and rampage 3. that is good, right?

willow badger
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yea it's the mod settngs and everything

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just didn't pop up at round end

tight dragon
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if you did it through vortex you need to check the load orders

dusk idol
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weird it should work even when you press tab

willow badger
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huh weird

swift ingot
spark hamlet
dusk idol
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maybe double check it’s all spelled right?

spark hamlet
ruby totem
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I could've sworn the carapace on crushers used to give blue hitmarkers for light weapons. maybe they changed it

dusk idol
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make sure you match the written name with the mod folder name

ruby totem
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but I'm an unreliable narrator now

stone birch
willow badger
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like it's recognized in game

dusk idol
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oh that’s funky

ruby totem
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Yea it was back in the day

spark hamlet
tight dragon
spark hamlet
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:>

dusk idol
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yeah idk, I use the old scoreboard mod

ruby totem
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I noticed they stopped several patches ago

tight dragon
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might go away if you have infernus or smt?

swift ingot
edgy condor
spark hamlet
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_>

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whistles innocently

dusk idol
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it took me almost a full month to get pc4

spark hamlet
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i do want to get a pimped out ghost xant mg 12 just to stand infront of a room of shooters and dome em one at a time

ruby totem
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Was there a way to modify your hitmarker colors or is that a mod screenshot I've seen somewhere?

dusk idol
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they didn’t even have pc3 at the time to tease me with

swift ingot
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I’m still trying to get Dum Dum 4 for my Laspistol

spark hamlet
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speaking of lvl 4 blessings

swift ingot
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It’s been almost 2 months

tight dragon
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i always gamble my coins on the rng shop, and i got more than what i would've got through buying directly

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on average

spark hamlet
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rumour mill said doing 2ndary objectives in auric 5's boosts blessing quality?

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any evidence to that claim?

dusk idol
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dunno, sounds a little tinfoil but this is fatshark

tall torrent
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“It was revealed to me in a dream”

dusk idol
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everything is canon, not everything is true

swift ingot
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It’s more cope than anything if you ask me

edgy condor
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rumour mill also claims killing daemonhosts boosts end of mission item score and better blessings on it chance, but I've yet to see any proof of that claim

ruby totem
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"My beloved told me in my dream!"

spark hamlet
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becasue afaik 2ndary objectives = grimoire or scriptures, and idk about taking grimoires in auric 5's

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yeah it sounds full copium

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and like... how would you prove it xD

sharp ember
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doubt, we don't have a visual of loot improving mechanics like vermintide 2

dusk idol
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I made it tf up

spark hamlet
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it's "my source is I made it the fuck up"

ruby totem
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I know it's a meme video

spark hamlet
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:3

sharp ember
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and someone probably would've tried to find code evidence of it by now

spark hamlet
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(I'm just being a pedant)

ruby totem
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ikik lol

dusk idol
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alright boys I’m gonna go eat a burrito, good luck in your games

vast flame
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Need a good blessing for shovel, already had uncanny strike 4, options?

spark hamlet
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so by additional modifiers wdym

swift ingot
spark hamlet
tall torrent
spark hamlet
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I mean like

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Malestorm damnation versus auric damnation versus auric maelstorm damnation

tall torrent
vast flame
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but like i was sayin, need a good blessing for shuvlel

tight dragon
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casual armory drop

tall torrent
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I think the harder the game thinks it is (higher docket payout), the better the rewards

dusk idol
narrow laurel
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worth buying from melk?

spark hamlet
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infernus feels like a non-bo with hellbore

vast flame
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infernus is great on laspistol or the recon las

narrow laurel
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nah swapping it out for surgical

vast flame
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not the helbore

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surgical, hundo percent

swift ingot
spark hamlet
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also what're good curios

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i've just been stacking toughenss and revive spd

vast flame
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depends on your needs, i take more stam regen for deadshot

misty delta
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I always take stam regen even without deadshot

ruby totem
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I go for health over toughness

delicate moat
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+9 stamina curios propaganda

vast flame
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i carry one wound, one health and one stamina, always

tight dragon
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any reason why the bar extends above 80% btw? can you actually go over?

swift ingot
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Not yet

vast flame
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80 is the max

swift ingot
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Maybe if reds ever get added

vast flame
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so far

brisk sapphire
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They'll have to buff HP pools and such if they add reds

misty delta
spark hamlet
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reds?

ruby totem
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When you kill a non-elite, is the toughness regained percentage based?

vast flame
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another level above orange

spark hamlet
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ahh

misty delta
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they basically gave maxed out stats and were otherwise functionally yellows/oranges

spark hamlet
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ngl seeing exotic/legendary activated my destiny 2 brain

vast flame
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they were rare as fuck in vermintide so good luck

brisk sapphire
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Reds have perfect rolls

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Ye

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They weren't that rare

misty delta
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at least in vermintide it was possible to get god rolls without reds :sadge:

vast flame
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i never got one in my entire time playing verm

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never

brisk sapphire
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Was like 12% chance from emp vault

spark hamlet
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<just upgrade the orange to red, 4head>

swift ingot
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I’ve only ever gotten 2

brisk sapphire
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I have every weapon in the game in red

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And some dupes

vast flame
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cousin okri is proud of you

spark hamlet
brisk sapphire
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Deeds are best way to farm reds

hollow turtle
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I got a little tired of grinding for them. Only ever got like 3.

vast flame
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really need a call back to okri in darktide, "Brother Okri" and hes squat

brisk sapphire
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Legend book runs are boring, but you can get reds from cata deeds and cata wastes which is nice

umbral scaffold
misty delta
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I miss having shared curios

umbral scaffold
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charge rate is pitiful

ruby totem
vast flame
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rule of thumb for me when buying melk goods, if it at around 370 - 380 base stats, i dont buy it

ruby totem
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I'm getting good rolls tonight hot damn

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I know but hot damn

hollow turtle
ruby totem
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Since it's so unlikely why care really

misty delta
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I just use melk to farm blessings at this point to hell with actually using the dang thing

serene pagoda
ruby totem
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they'll fix it someday (maybe? Doubt it)

vast flame
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as a big fuck you to the rogue traders

hollow turtle
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Turns out Grendyl was a squat the whole time.

cloud leaf
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Grendel's not even a real person He's clearly fake You're being fooled you're being played like a fiddle

vast flame
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"its all squats?"
cocks stub revolver
"always has been"

ruby totem
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I rolled like 20 Plasmas just now and 15 of them were over 340. Not bad probabillity wise

misty delta
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must be nice

ruby totem
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Holy shit

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not bad

vast flame
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I got a 508 Plasma with shatter 3 and gloryhunter 3, so good

hollow turtle
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Lol get the "roll until rating" mod. Have it filter for only 370+

cedar knoll
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smoking accessory when

brisk sapphire
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Is ammo dump on plasma. It already has ammo issues

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Would assume charge since charge shot not that useful

hollow turtle
serene pagoda
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smoking with my gasmask on

vast flame
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hits nurgle's grade A rotlung smoke leaf Yeah, we're playing danktide tonight

spark hamlet
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ok i just saw the chart for charge rate -> damage on plasma and wtaf

hollow turtle
# serene pagoda >smoking with my gasmask on

Funny thing, I think what you wear on your character determines your idle animations.
You'll never see a character scratch their face with a mask on, where if you use a maskless cosmetic, they will.

vast flame
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its hilarious to watch the gasmask on the ogryn wiggle when he talks with the krieger mask

serene pagoda
spark hamlet
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it's more just

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...how, from a programming perspective

serene pagoda
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i aint trading this anytime soon

hollow turtle
vast flame
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right? some weird like TF2 Pyro fuckin mask physics

ruby totem
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fuckin hell I'm so mad

spark hamlet
ruby totem
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my first ever 380

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and it's 72% damage

hollow turtle
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Lol

vast flame
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i mean 80 is the max gamer, think of it like a 92%

serene pagoda
ruby totem
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Ikik

hollow turtle
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Not good enough

ruby totem
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it's only like 7 damage difference looking at an 80%

vast flame
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yeah its not gunna break the bank

spark hamlet
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right now i'm farming blessings

ruby totem
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stopping power is the more important one iirc?

vast flame
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you'll still shit on a crusher

hollow turtle
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72/80 = 0.9. So technically 90%

ruby totem
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At least for plas. I think stopping power gets you your breakpoints better on stronger targets iirc

hollow turtle
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Does it? I thought that was just stagger?

brisk sapphire
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Test the breakpts of the 72 vs 80

hollow turtle
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Oh wait, damage on stagger. Right

hoary valley
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is the chain axe any good ?

ruby totem
hoary valley
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doing a melee build btw hence why i ask

serene pagoda
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3 fucking 80

ruby totem
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change the flak for maniac and gloryhunter for blaze away or gets hot?

serene pagoda
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never seen one

ruby totem
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ikr?

serene pagoda
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to be honest? check with your build first

ruby totem
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The Emperor knows I am true to the plasma gun, so he rewards me justly

serene pagoda
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see if you can hit kill ragers

hollow turtle
# serene pagoda never seen one

If you have the extra item filters mod, you can filter by base rating. Check Brunt's armory every turn of the hour. You can find a few 380's every now and then that way.

valid apex
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But you need a different gun

south spindle
hollow turtle
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My first 550 is going to be a knife. I'm just trying to grind for the T4 Uncanny Strike to complete it.

serene pagoda
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might

serene pagoda
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ya

south spindle
hollow turtle
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How dare you not include the knife in this.. but technically right if you're only considering how fast you can kill things.

spark hamlet
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mfw no shovel

serene pagoda
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spade

spark hamlet
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oh melee vet

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nvm

vast flame
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shuvlel best

hollow turtle
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Lel

serene pagoda
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the spade is literally the best

vast flame
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power sword second best

south spindle
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Yeah i concurr, Shovel best melee

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Love me Shovel

spark hamlet
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I'm liking the shovel quite a bit

serene pagoda
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🤝

ruby totem
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Honestly I'm doing less against ragers with my 80% 80% just because I don't have the flak damage

vast flame
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heavy spams on shuvlel make hairyticks brains hurt

serene pagoda
cedar sandal
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Ha ha boltgun go chunkchunkchubkchunkchunk

ruby totem
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The dreg ones do

vast flame
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i feel like the bolter sucks now

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like i tried it, and i dont like it anymore

cedar sandal
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Bolter is awesome

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I dont even have to use my brain

serene pagoda
vast flame
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Plasma > Bolter, IMO

ruby totem
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Been a Plasma main since day one

serene pagoda
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the plasma just feels good. been using it since release day

vast flame
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I tried plasma and couldnt get into it but after the rework it fucking S L A P S

serene pagoda
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the rework gave it much needed change

ruby totem
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Bolter does feel better for bosses, yea

serene pagoda
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i mean, if you can cope with the abysmall ammo management and the fact that 90% of the game you will be using your melee then its golden, i just dont like the playstyle

south spindle
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I would enjoy Boltgun more if the recoil reset wasnt janky as fuck

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It doesnt really make it harder to use, its just jarring

cedar sandal
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It's gonna be awkward to fire

ruby totem
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Gettin the good shit today

cedar sandal
serene pagoda
vast flame
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good shit mange

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I neco neco need it

south spindle
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Its the fact it jumps erratically back to centre which makes it look like the animation is skipping frames

vast flame
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think they'll give us that mag fed shotty the dreg shotgunners use?

ruby totem
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I like this one a bit more

serene pagoda
south spindle
ruby totem
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What do your talents look like?

tight dragon
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MkII does look a bit better on paper for braced autoguns, what's considered the better one for a rending build?

past knot
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What do I put on power sword aside power cycler

south spindle
vast flame
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15% weak spot damage, weakspot kills ignore hit mass

forest blaze
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🤌

vast flame
past knot
ruby totem
vast flame
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So basically when your weapon makes contact with a harder enemy, itll stop on like carapace or flak or monsters

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ignoring hit mass means the swing continues, like cleave

past knot
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But power sword dont stop

vast flame
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charged hits dont stop, but lights and heavies will

past knot
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But you use non charged attacksm

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?

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Hmmm

vast flame
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yeah, good for crowds

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two heavies can kill a mutie

halcyon zephyr
past knot
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I see I see

swift ingot
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You mainly want bromentum for the weakspot damage on ps

past knot
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Ah

vast flame
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bromentum i love it

past knot
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Truly a bro moment

swift ingot
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I’ve also seen folks call it Bruhmentum

past knot
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I like bro more

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Its wholesome

swift ingot
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Same

onyx urchin
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how does someone use the karkin' plasma gun?

past knot
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Ok so

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You shoot

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Enemy dies

onyx urchin
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yeah well thats a given

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but like

south spindle
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I just didnt see a reason to run Deadshot, idt it works on Plasma

past knot
# onyx urchin but like

I've seen people spam normal shot for well normal occasions and charge for heavy dense packs

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Thats basically it

south spindle
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So Exhilarating was the only choice

ruby totem
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Exhilaring does increase the damage you take, but it can be worth the tradeoff

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I take it regardless

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I'll take more vent damage if I can get precision strikes

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I still get back 15% on kill regardless with that perk

onyx urchin
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cool

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why is everyone so excited to be usin' a plasma gun, anyway?
most of the other plasma gunners in the guard hated their position

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cause getting a plasma burn sucks

south spindle
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Because funny whoosh sound and evaporate like 20 shotgunners KEKW_ogryn

small wraith
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maybe worth it if you hit breakpoints but its kind of 4 points just for 30% weakspot, might be better off going elsewhere until takedown is fixed

ruby totem
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Yea I get 2000/2400 with a crit uncharged headshot with this

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This isn't my usual plas, just testing with it

raw apex
onyx urchin
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how would an ogryn handle a plasma gun?

ruby totem
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does shattering impact apply to the attack it starts on?

small wraith
forest blaze
ruby totem
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that's what I thought

onyx urchin
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wait

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idea

forest blaze
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Same reason why ogryns don’t have guns that you have to rack a slide

small wraith
south spindle
onyx urchin
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miniaturized plasma pistols with the plasma can stuck in place, expendable enough to toss as a grenade when it inevitably overheats

forest blaze
ruby totem
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Oh you're shooting dregs lemme see

onyx urchin
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i know but ive moved on from the ogryn thoughts

forest blaze
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If gun = true, shoot, else find gun

brisk sapphire
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Tediore plasma pistol

austere sand
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Hey is Resupply Allies still bugged?

spark hamlet
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bought this off melk... guessing it's only good for pc4?

ruby totem
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Oh I see it's your maniac damage

south spindle
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Yer, likely

ruby totem
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see I thought you were talking scab ragers

forest blaze
onyx urchin
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the explosion power is dependent on how much ammo was in the mag when you tossed it

small wraith
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PC4 very worth just to snag blessing

ruby totem
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Chat just kinda zoomin by I misread

south spindle
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Nahh, like i said, no Flak perk either

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Debating it, be good for Maulers too

trail knot
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what's the recommended build for plasmagun?

ruby totem
forest blaze
spark hamlet
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where's deadshot on the tree, can't find it

ruby totem
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left tree

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first cluster at the bottom

spark hamlet
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ound it

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ok yeah can see why stamina matters

swift ingot
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I just run 2 hp 1 toughness on my vet

south spindle
ruby totem
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I have 2 now :p

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Literally just consecrated this one up

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What do we think about Unyielding on a plasma?

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Sure, monstrosity damage, but is it worth giving up carapace?

forest blaze
dusty nacelle
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Thoughts on plasma gun vs the IAGs? I've been using the columnus but I played with a vet with a plasma gun and they just literally 1shot everything before I was able to do anything

ruby totem
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Which one of the perks should I keep? As I can always modify the one I tweak

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They're both pretty good

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Just indecisive

forest blaze
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Maybe unyielding since maniac is pretty much always good and you’ll be testing unyielding vs flak vs carapace I think

ruby totem
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But I could also get maniac to 4...

stone birch
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realizing that most players do not listen to the vocalizations of their characters shocks and surprises me. The AI literally does call outs for ya and so many just, ignore it.

south spindle
forest blaze
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I don’t take maniac because I one shot all the maniac guys I feel like killing except ragers

ruby totem
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right I forgor about reapers

south spindle
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but thats one enemy, so its the same story with Carapace, like pick your poison innit

forest blaze
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Pretty much

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I like unyielding for weakened monstrosities. You can certainly feel the damage difference.

south spindle
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Bulwarks aint exactly threatening when you have a plasma gun, so personally i dont feel like they're overly worth considering

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Yeah thats a point, deffo vs weakend monsters

dusty nacelle
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Sooo, should I get a plasma gun?>

ruby totem
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I feel like Flak enemies are naturally weaker than maniac

forest blaze
ruby totem
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So I might just keep both

forest blaze
ruby totem
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Holy shit this thing hits breakpoints nicely

spark hamlet
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how would you upgrade this while i look for smth better

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maniac dmg?

ruby totem
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3500 uncharged non-crit on a reaper lol

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in exec stance tho

dusty nacelle
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What's a good build/other weapon to use with a plasma?

spark hamlet
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shuvl

forest blaze
ruby totem
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Ok, out of exec stance it can one shot headshot a reaper on crit lmao

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lets fucking go

forest blaze
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With plasma you can run any of the actives. Exec for killing most things in one shot. Shout for winning games. Infil for soloing games.

dusty nacelle
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What's the plasma's dump stat? Thermal resistance?

forest blaze
ruby totem
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none really lol

forest blaze
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Too high charge rate is bugged to shoot slower

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Too low ammo and you’ll be fucked

dusty nacelle
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really? hmm

forest blaze
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Deadshot talent also doesn’t work with it fyi

spark hamlet
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for deadshot, what's better - stam or stam recov

edgy condor
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alright, hadron was very nice to me with this roll. What do I spend my two changes on?

swift ingot
spark hamlet
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ty

ruby totem
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And Volatile

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isn't it bugged rn?

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blaze away is better imo anyways. even if it only caps at T3

dapper vessel
edgy condor
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idk ive heard something about volatile being bad and decreasing damage but if thats the case i don't understand how its doing that

ruby totem
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And if later down the line you want it you can just grab T4 volatile anyways

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So Volatile

dapper vessel
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yeah volatile decreases your damage

ruby totem
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keep carapace, go for either Unyielding or Maniac

edgy condor
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hmm. well i can do blaze away instead of volatile until it gets fixed then. I'm thinking unyielding for better boss damage, but idk. Would maniac let me hit new breakpoints?

ruby totem
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A ton of enemies have maniac and yes

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You'll be able to 1 shot bodyshot flamers most likely. Idk how it breaks at 75%, but it's likely

ivory marsh
ruby totem
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Besides, if you don't like it you can swap it out for unyielding later

edgy condor
shadow dagger
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very cool melk

edgy condor
ivory marsh
dapper vessel
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Plasma's damaged is tied to the gun's charge rate

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and the charged rate that determines the damage is tied to the servers tick rate

ivory marsh
dapper vessel
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so the faster you shoot your plasma, which by having faster charge rate

ruby totem
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Alright this is what I ended with @forest blaze

dapper vessel
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the less damage you do

ivory marsh
ruby totem
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This also means I have all T3 and T4 blessings for the plasma now helmo

spark hamlet
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ncie!

dapper vessel
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the most significant breakpoint to determine this is by having a 76+ Damage and Stopping Power on the Plasma. If you have a Charge Rate of over 76-80. Try doing a quick charged shot against a Trapper, without a Maniac perk. It would most likely result in the Trapper having a few HP left.

spark hamlet
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also i upgraded a curio and holyshitwhere'dmyplasteelgo

ruby totem
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I just spent 6K plasteel on all my new plasmas

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hurts lol

dapper vessel
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if the charge rate is lower on the 68-73 range, a quick charged shot against a Trapper. Again with 76+ Damage and Stopping Power. It would definitely 1 shot a Trapper.

ruby totem
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but I know some people spend waaayyyy more

dapper vessel
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Plasma is already good enough on its own as a weapon

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Think of the BiS blessings for the weapon as more a bonus

ruby totem
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I have maybe 5 solid plasmas now

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but this is my new main

dapper vessel
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just uh avoid Volatile

south spindle
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Thankfully net positive (by one fucking percent) on 80% charge stat

elder vessel
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point at it
Get rid of it

Plasma Gun, available for all of your fucking plasteel.99$

finite imp
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Sick of all you plasma bastards running around with a fucking ionically bond gas cannon launching fart blasts at all my kills.

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Deleting crushers while taking a nap

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Get gud

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Pick up a revolver

ivory marsh
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Idk did you play maelstrom only melee?

finite imp
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I smoke weed out of the empty cylinders

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What no ignore me I'm just kidding

ivory marsh
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U notice how little atleast left click pew pew does

finite imp
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Okay how you want

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Play

uncut acorn
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I only use my plasma if bored I prefer my IAG and Boltor.

ivory marsh
finite imp
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I just like to ramble and yell about things for no reason

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Pew pew

finite imp
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Need some good dakka

uncut acorn
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Gotta work on a lasgun and laspistol eventually.

finite imp
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Meh

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Lasguns are cool and all

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But I'm getting up there in the years

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It's annoying to have to keep spamming m1

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I just wanna spray and learn recoil pattern

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My fingeys get mad at me

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I'm already a fucking radar technician so they get enough abuse

hoary valley
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whats a hard carry build that i can run

finite imp
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Powersword

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And uh

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Well

hoary valley
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melee build ?

finite imp
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What no

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I didn't finish

hollow ibex
hoary valley
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I mean build build

finite imp
random cobalt
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which power sword is better?

hollow ibex
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Just search it there

finite imp
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Neither is better than the other. Pick which combo you like and learn it

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Hit the fucking deck I'm about to get disagreed with

hollow ibex
dapper vessel
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Mark 6 is objectively better now

finite imp
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I prefer PS3 personally cuz of its activation time

random cobalt
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thanks

finite imp
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But you do you boo boo

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There are no wrong answers if you know what you're doing

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I have multiple powerswords with different bs

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I tend to stick with ps3

hoary valley
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whats the most op build for vet rn

small wraith
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Revolver seems pretty busted, and handcannon is still actually bugged and applies to your melee, also power sword 6

ruby totem
#

This new plas' breakpoints feel sooooo goooood

hoary valley
#

So like can it solo carry a game

ruby fulcrum
hoary valley
#

I want THAT level of op

ruby fulcrum
#

Also one shots like everythibg

hoary valley
#

hold W

#

and win

#

thats what I want

ruby totem
#

I've seen some Recon Las builds do that

small wraith
#

Nerf hit pretty hard, I think Las pistol can do hold W though now, because ghost gives ranged immunity you don't even need cover, just stand there

#

Probably closest to a hold W build, has very good hip accuracy, don't even need to right click

willow badger
#

worth it or nah

#

that collateral score is def meh

rain crane
#

how important is thermal res/ what are the bis blessings for plasma

delicate estuary
#

whats a dead modifier on shovel ?

small wraith
# willow badger worth it or nah

not sure if there is much difference on collateral for boltgun since it has such high stagger anyways, might not make any difference at all

#

looks like 50 collateral is needed to open a bulwark with one shot, so that might be an issue

manic spear
#

does stopping power really matter on a lasgun?

celest vine
celest vine
#

You can sneak out the kill in one hit you normally wouldnt get

manic spear
#

i see and mobility is a dump stat right

small wraith
#

yarp

gritty dock
south spindle
south spindle
ruby totem
#

I was wondering why I couldn't get mine to perform that way

#

and hadn't seen people running them as much as I had

south spindle
#

Yeah they nerfed the 6d an dialed back some of the Rending

ruby totem
#

Yea that's pretty valid of them to do

#

it was kinda wack

south spindle
#

Which hurt Recons a lot more than everything else because they're actually pretty shit guns

finite imp
ruby totem
#

Yea they definitely went from blegh to wow to mid

small wraith
#

recon nerf was probably fine if they didnt make some other junk so good

finite imp
#

I wonder what they're gonna do with the vet tree. It could only get better right? 🤞

south spindle
#

Really hope they get more changes so they're an effective comparison to IAGs

ruby totem
#

I still have fun with my recon

south spindle
ruby totem
#

I run it with infiltrate

south spindle
celest vine
#

I have sunder, supercharge, and cycler 4 on my power sword

finite imp
celest vine
#

Those are the best blessings for it

#

Righr?

south spindle
celest vine
#

Cycler 4 is a must I know that

finite imp
south spindle
finite imp
#

Hehehe

#

You north or southern

small wraith
south spindle
#

Kernow mate, propa south

thorn lark
finite imp
#

Right in

#

On

south spindle
finite imp
#

I prefer the southern inflections to the north

#

Nay

thorn lark
#

Pc4 + bm4 does wonder on the 6

finite imp
#

I'm a fuckin yank

#

But I'm a sailor

south spindle
#

Oh fair, surprise to see a yanqui use "mug" in that context KEKW_ogryn

finite imp
#

And I've been to Europe so many times it'd make your head spin

#

Of all the places tho the best banter came from good ole

#

And the best beer

#

Any Germans in here lay off I haven't been

celest vine
#

I have a sword with rampage 4

south spindle
#

We got some good beer for sure, German does too though tbh. Very good infact. Not that i've been there either, but there are the odd import beer stores knockin about

finite imp
#

What's your fav draught

south spindle
#

Used to have a really good one in my local town, but old boy had to shut up shop during Brexit because of costs

#

Hmm.. Prolly London Pride, Ghost Ship, or Newcastle Brown

finite imp
#

Shame

#

Ghost ship is nice had a few

#

Neither to the others

south spindle
#

It is aye, good in summer as its pretty light

finite imp
#

Always dazzling me eyes with the fancy names

#

I prefer a dark in the winter myself

south spindle
#

Whats beer like over there? Im not all that familiar with US offerings

finite imp
#

A good Guinness goes a long way in the cold months

south spindle
#

Ye ditto, bit more too it

#

Eyy 🙏

finite imp
#

Most beer of here is shite

#

You'd taste Coors lite and probably look at us like we're proper fukt

#

God the shame

south spindle
finite imp
#

Americans don't even know what good beer fuckin is

south spindle
#

I thought small brewries an craft beers had really taken off over there in recent years?

finite imp
#

It makes my head swim

#

They have but wearing a fuckin beanie and selling blackberry cider out of a mini cask doesn't mean it's gonna taste like gods tits

#

Microbrews are everywhere

south spindle
#

Lmao, that bad huh? My condolences

finite imp
#

And gods do they love IPA

#

IPA this IPA that ENOUGH

#

You wanna find a good glass of wheat beer god help you

#

Its miserable

#

And the selection is so numerous and 90 percent of them are just mid

midnight mortar
finite imp
#

Yay to that. And our fucked infrastructure doesn't help

#

But no that's alright we'll just elect a criminal and Bob's your uncle

#

All our problems will blow over soon lads just hang in there!

#

God all this talk of beer is making me parched

umbral scaffold
#

isnt the graia autogun really good

mellow grove
#

whats the ideal perks and blessings for Laspistol?

finite imp
#

It's a negotiation between the damage, ammo pool, rpm, and clip size

#

It's the middle ground in all things but if you're looking for burst damage grab you a columnus

#

If you want accuracy at range get an agri

#

If you're not sure grab a graia then think about what you don't like more about it

#

The graia is deff not a bad rifle by any means, but we vets love that sweet sweet dos

#

Dps

#

Also the agri does more damage per shot, but the Columnus shits bullets like rain

#

At close range you'll be ripping most things to shreds

#

And if you learn the recoil pattern it can compensate for its weak points

#

Also the pur hilarity of filling a hallways with bullets and watching the bodies pile up

#

I love the Columnus. It's the dakka I always dreamed of

#

Yap over

mellow grove
#

thanks cook

bitter cairn
#

This is just about perfect as far as not yet altered, right? Not sure what blessings are ideal nowadays but just wanna be sure before I mess with the perks any.

finite imp
#

Np maestro

#

I play vet and I think it's all I do

#

Drop the stam

south spindle
south spindle
finite imp
south spindle
#

Thats the spirit 🙏

finite imp
#

No need to be drippin on the hardwood

midnight patrol
finite imp
#

Gods do I miss English pubs. It was always raining fuck all but those cozy corner booths next to the windows were hard to beat for atmosphere

#

And they're actually fucking quiet which is nice

bitter cairn
finite imp
#

Yar it's a beautiful chainsword

#

I'd drop the stam for like

#

Maniac or

#

Possible pox

#

If you want a good horder clearer

finite imp
bitter cairn
#

Should I just alter the two perks? The blessings are fine and don't need changing, right?

celest vine
#

Like its stupid how many how fast it does

finite imp
#

It's Columbus wot got the high rom

#

Rpm

finite imp
#

During damnation it's a miracle my fucking barrel don't melt

midnight patrol
#

I could never get the chainsword to cleave like a PS. You'd think with over 300 ish damage in a swing it could cut down at least 4 to 6 poxs in one swing

bitter cairn
finite imp
#

Red hot

south spindle
finite imp
#

Something to wake the taste buds

south spindle
#

Mmm, mouth-fur juice KEKW_ogryn

celest vine
#

Graia braced shoots the fastes

#

Its infantry auto isnt

finite imp
celest vine
#

Wait do IAGs have bullet magnetism?

#

Whait

finite imp
#

What

#

No?

#

What do you mean

midnight patrol
#

IAG's can all overpen unarmored/infested targets

#

So you might be just getting a lot of overpen headshots

finite imp
#

Hallway clearing bullet hoses

candid bridge
finite imp
#

That so

#

Never knew

#

Guess I suck in reality

celest vine
midnight patrol
#

I think that's just the hitboxes

celest vine
#

Im not even aiming at the target

turbid frigate
#

What's the best 2 blessings for the plasma gun?

celest vine
#

Halo had this

#

Bullets were magnetic and would hit if you were close enough

south spindle
#

Revolver has it i know that, idk about anything else

midnight patrol
#

Revolver has BM?

#

I never reslly noticed that

candid bridge
#

id say just about every shooter (besides maybe counter strike) has it, just some more than others

celest vine
#

Graia has it pretty hard

south spindle
#

Nope, just tested that too

midnight patrol
#

Might have to test out the Graia myself then.

south spindle
#

Not in my game

celest vine
#

I literally posted a video of it happening it certainly does

south spindle
#

You got some kinda aim assist setting on?

celest vine
#

No

midnight patrol
#

I know the Vraks VII has an amazingly forgiving headshot hit box though

celest vine
#

Sights not even on the left and right zombie

south spindle
#

Hitboxes are just generally pretty forgiving tbh

celest vine
#

Still manages to hig

midnight patrol
#

You can be half to nearly a full head off target and you still get that sweet helmet crunch

finite imp
#

Like a mf snickers bar

#

Cwunch

celest vine
#

Lasguns dont have it

rigid pilot
#

Josho has some videos of one revolver killing like 7 shotgunners

midnight patrol
#

It's even better when it blows off their entire head lol

celest vine
#

Only IAGs

south spindle
#

Yeah nah, just generous hitbox, Graia dont have bullet magnetisim

viral nacelle
#

So plasma gun questions. Is it actually good now? And good traits/perks?

south spindle
#

Its extremely good yeah

midnight patrol
#

Patch 13 or 14 did specifically say they were improving the hitbox size for the headhunters. Maybe the IAG's got it too?

celest vine
#

Thats what BM is

turbid frigate
#

@viral nacelle I just asked the same question

viral nacelle
#

I have been liking my plasma

south spindle
#

Carapace/Unyeilding/Maniac for perks. I think most people seem to like Gets Hot/Blaze Away it would seem

celest vine
#

So yes IAGs have bullet magnetism

south spindle
celest vine
#

It helps it your target by giving you a wider range to hit

#

And you hit its hitbox

south spindle
#

Bullet magnetisim is implying that the bullets change course on the way to the target, a bigger hitbox is exactly as it states, a bigger hitbox

midnight patrol
#

Hitbox being beeg is very different from BM tho,

south spindle
#

Very yeah

viral nacelle
#

I’ve been running a Melk one that’s got crummy stats for ammo but good everything else + gets hot. And then volatile which is iffy

celest vine
#

But the hitbox isnt big for lasguns

#

Or bolters

spring spindle
#

Not gonna lie. I’ve been loving the Columnus. Got this one from a mission win and it slaps

celest vine
#

Or anything that isnt an IAG

willow badger
#

got it bruhs

midnight patrol
#

They specifically tuned the hitbox size to weapon

celest vine
#

So hitbox magically grows for IaGs

willow badger
#

actually only took like 3-4 swords

midnight patrol
#

Which is hilarious but hey. Fatshark managed to code it that way

willow badger
#

and like 3-4 matches worth of plasteel

south spindle
midnight patrol
#

Idk how tbh

spring spindle
south spindle
#

Headhunters, also the same

willow badger
#

now time to find a good powersword

midnight patrol
willow badger
#

once unlocked i can rebless multiple times right

#

actually cant believe my luck lol

#

mfw i dont have 93 plasteel to rebeless

spring spindle
willow badger
#

literally the second blessing i unlocked lol

#

other one is power cycler 3

granite steppe
#

What autoguns are good rn? Most post-14 builds I find are revolvers ( I don't trust my ability to headshot under fire) or plasma (I'd play psyker if wanted to manage peril), so lil lost on choices

celest vine
#

Nope

celest vine
#

Theres only two options here man

south spindle
#

Stand like 15m back from a gunner an shoot either side of its head

#

I just tested all three platforms an there was exactly no difference at all

#

This video is just you statically spamming shots into the body of poxwalkers

viral nacelle
#

How are people using blaze away on plasma when it has so little ammo? Just not doing charge shot?

south spindle
#

Yeah you dont need to charge it up all the time bud

viral nacelle
#

I mostly don’t

#

But I also do a lot of melee

#

Vet is not my fave class 😂

south spindle
#

Well then there ya go, just use uncharged shots. Idet Blaze procs on charged shots tbh

#

Aye thats fair, isnt mine either, but at least its engaging to play now

celest vine
#

30 meter test

#

When clips upload

viral nacelle
#

I like the shout melee build, it’s like being a crappy zealot 😂

celest vine
#

Both graia and recon same spot

south spindle
mellow grove
#

hmm first game as a lasgun psyker not too bad considering I was against a plasma gun vet and teammates who loved to stand in front of me

spring spindle
celest vine
#

Either this has bullet magnetism or the spread on the gun is so ridiculously bad

south spindle
#

You're on console.

#

So yeah. it might actually be different on there.

#

Because its nothing like that on PC

spring spindle
viral nacelle
#

REEEE CONSOLE PLEBE

south spindle
#

You miss the target, you miss the target

celest vine
#

Graia

viral nacelle
#

some of the guns are so bad that aiming is optional tho

celest vine
#

Ok this is the most ridiculous case of it

south spindle
#

Lets fuckin goooo, Scab Melee only on teh board

celest vine
#

Not even aiming at the crusher and managing to headshot

#

Aim assist off

stone birch
vast flame
#

ay yo, did yall notice the unused mace in brunts armory?

stone birch
#

its for the 5th class, the arbite enforcer or some bullshit like that I bet

celest vine
#

This isnt an aim assist or console thing

stone birch
#

tho a death cult assassin would be a cool 5th class too...

severe crypt
sharp ember
#

give me that.

stone birch
severe crypt
#

i think its an unused weapon for either a fifth class in which case we better be getting a bolt pistol for said class and for the psyker or its an unused weapon for EVERY class that isn't ogryn

celest vine
#

Happens with columnus too

celest vine
#

Its a very real thing

severe crypt
#

the Krak grenades are magnetic but god damn so are the bullets i guess

celest vine
#

No aim assist

stone birch
celest vine
#

Theres no other option

#

Lasguns dont do this

#

Bolters dont

willow badger
#

what perks to throw on there?

celest vine
#

Bullets will go literally 45° to the left

south spindle
#

It would seem like a console specific issue

celest vine
#

Like thats not an aim assist thing

south spindle
#

I would make a bug report

celest vine
south spindle
#

Either that or its by design

celest vine
#

I have it turned off

dapper vessel
#

Melee crit damage for flak/elites

south spindle
#

To make aiming on pad easier

sharp ember
#

the machine spirit is aiding you

celest vine
#

Even with aim assist completely disabled

#

Krak has this phenomenon too

south spindle
#

Krak does on Pc

#

thats just a feature of the grenade, the bullets thing is different, clearly

#

I aint hitting stuff thats not in the crosshair in my game

celest vine
#

The gun must be blessed by the god emperor himself

#

💀

stone birch
#

guided by the hand of stalin himself

south spindle
#

Like i said, probably a console accessibility thing

#

Never seen none of the PC crowd talk about it, thats for sure

celest vine
#

Its only aiming

#

Hipfire magnetic bullets disappear

#

Crusher its just easy to see

finite imp
#

whats best blessings 4 devil claw

#

i wanna be a samurai now

sharp ember
finite imp
tame lichen
#

can you even get a 360 rate weapon from brunts armory?

dusty nacelle
#

u can get 380s from brunt's yea

sharp ember
tame lichen
#

Never thought about trying figured it be useless\

celest vine
#

I nailed a 379 last week

#

Its ver possible

#

Be ready to drop 300k tho

livid monolith
#

I tend to get a 370 in like 100-300k

#

whether it has good stat spread 🤷

tame lichen
#

I spent 20k and got a 370

delicate estuary
#

just spent 1.2 million dockets and 20k plasteel to get 4 T4 blessings for the shovel

delicate moat
#

brunt is swimming in money

delicate estuary
#

who cares about money

#

hadron getting 20k plasteel

#

is the real heist

dusty nacelle
#

Brunt puts the goblin tinkerer from terraria to shame

delicate estuary
#

but its ok

#

I have accepted my fate

#

crafting rework will take another year probably if they do it

#

so just gonn ahave to cope till then

gleaming tusk
#

bolter build?

turbid frigate
#

What do people run got blessings on the Las x11 rifle?

livid monolith
#

hadrons gonna build a 4th hive city with all the plasteel

vague charm
#

what should I go with, brutal momentum or wrath on a power sword

willow badger
#

share ur drip squad

spring spindle
#

Question. For the penance with having 90% accuracy. As one as one shotgun pellet hits does it basically count as a full hit?

livid monolith
spring spindle
#

So as long as it hits at all

livid monolith
#

yea per trigger pull

spring spindle
#

Gotcha. Thanks

gleaming tusk
#

Commissar LilVip here to say prayers with the Ogryn so they get in the transport.

raw aspen
#

So guys....las gun vs auto gun, any particular benefits between them?

gleaming tusk
#

Laspistol is best pistol

celest vine
mellow grove
#

maan I was wondering why I was getting some repeated bot level teammates and I just noticed im getting squads of full xbox players

celest vine
raw aspen
#

I mean like is auto gun better for non armored? Or just more suppression?

fading grove
#

I don't use the bolter much. Thoughts?

celest vine
celest vine
#

Are more precise

fading grove
#

Should I pick that up from Melk or not worth it?

raw aspen
#

Hmm so far no reason to use auto guns XD

celest vine
desert brook
#

do melee attacks count towards the accuracy goal in the "make every shot count" pennance?

celest vine
stone birch
#

welp, i just banked rampage 4 into my blessing archive

celest vine
#

And some penances can be done by autoguns only

raw aspen
willow badger
#

can autoguns pen carpace better?

celest vine
fading grove
celest vine
#

And theyre better on ammo

#

Cause shocktrooper dont work for recon las

#

I find the infantry lasgun sights to be better and clearer than most

#

Thats a personal opinion thing tho

#

Almost all autoguns are fully auto, and controllable too

umbral scaffold
desert brook
#

correct

umbral scaffold
#

It shouldn’t

celest vine
desert brook
#

ty

celest vine
#

Shout does count if I remember right

umbral scaffold
#

No problem man

celest vine
#

Dont use it

umbral scaffold
#

I have that penance completed

#

If you want tips on how to get it lmk

celest vine
#

If you’re gonna use shout make sure you hit something

desert brook
#

its my friend who is trying to get it

umbral scaffold
#

I got that penance not trying to when I played scab melee only no ammo pickups with the revolver

#

The revolver has a pretty low ammo refund only one shot per elite kill

swift ingot
#

Gave big man his own dueling sword

desert brook
#

ill tell him that, thank you

mellow grove
gleaming tusk
swift ingot
#

Yes

#

What’s also great is I put the look over a stabby knife as well

celest vine
#

The big man looks like a dwarf from deep rock galaxtix

gleaming tusk
#

I like how half the time a human sized enemy headshot with the bolter blows them in half.

flint lake
ebon umbra
#

no ammo drops modifier is the best modifier by far. it is sooooo good

stone birch
#

just take scavanger or a crit build lasgun w/ shock trooper

#

ez

willow badger
#

hellbore

#

is actually pretty fun

#

liking it more than the mk12

spring spindle
#

Me when I run out of the ammo for the 90% penance and I look at the horde and the shovel in my hand like

“It’s free real estate.”

delicate moat
#

silent maulers pls ffs

spare wolf
#

Best assassin in the game

#

One shots you
Silent or makes a very little noises before attacking

trim steppe
#

Not sure what I want to do to finish this off. Unarmored to maniac? What say you

gleaming tusk
#

Does shock trooper work with recon las?

trim steppe
#

yes

spare wolf
#

Yes

gleaming tusk
#

Pog thanks

ruby totem
#

Ah, I remember the shit days of needing 100% accuracy

#

Thank god the plasma has a big projectile

gusty bison
ruby totem
#

all I can say

spark hamlet
#

use or break down for the lvl 4 dumdum

gusty bison
#

The main draw of lasguns is ammo efficiency and the helbore being really really good

gusty bison
trim steppe
#

take dum dum off imo, put it on a columnus

gusty bison
#

Not perfect but not bad

spark hamlet
#

the collectathon part in me wants to just break it down for the blessing

gusty bison
#

Graia is great if u want precise accuracy beyond 25m

spare wolf
#

And try to get better IAG

#

Not that hard

gusty bison
#

Its less short range deeps than the columnus but its still "only" 3k

spark hamlet
#

i got it from an emp gift

#

so.. woot, free lvl 4 blessing for a gun i don't use

spare wolf
#

Cool

#

Extract then

gusty bison
spark hamlet
#

already done

gusty bison
#

:P

spark hamlet
#

they are fun

#

and they satisfy the dakka dakka dakka

gusty bison
#

plink plink plink plink

tall torrent
tall torrent
fathom edge
#

the PSs dont share blessings right?

tall torrent
#

Mk5 can get really good spray accuracy at surprisingly long distances when u crouch & are stationary

gusty bison
tall torrent
trim steppe
gusty bison
tall torrent
gleaming tusk
#

Force or chainsword?

gusty bison
#

And its recoil on the move is actually quite controllable

trim steppe
#

Hey @tall torrent can I get your thoughts, how should I finish this off

gusty bison
#

The main thing is yes the columnus kills fast, but it still does miss a fair bit at 25+m

gusty bison
#

Graia u can just land 3x crit headshots and merc a guy

tall torrent
#

I wish mk8 had a little better dps to boot

gusty bison
#

Its dps is amazing thou

tall torrent
#

Not as good as Columnus

spare wolf
#

If you run deadshot you don't miss that much with columnus too

gusty bison
#

"Only" 2.5k vs most things vs 3k

left zealot
#

So which would you use then Grawr?

spare wolf
#

As long as deadshot activates that is

tall torrent
#

Mk1 is also decently accurate?

gusty bison
finite imp
#

I tried using the devil claw

raw aspen
left zealot
#

Which do you like best though?

gusty bison
raw aspen
#

Also noticed the weird magnet thing

finite imp
#

Fucking the powersword just makes every other weapon suck

tall torrent
finite imp
#

Buff the fucking devil claw sheesh

gusty bison
raw aspen
#

Id you shoot beaide their heads thebauto guns seem to deflect off metal heads, and hit the next guy still

finite imp
#

MAKE EM SCREEEEAM

spare wolf
#

Devil claw is good tho

finite imp
raw aspen
#

Also found that apparently the only head hinter model i did was the only single ahot auto gun....didnt realize the kthers wete burst firs