#veteran-class

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tepid pagoda
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But it's just always on

empty heron
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+2 upgrade

frank ether
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are you queuing for eu?

kind scarab
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Yes

delicate estuary
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just wait for mission to start

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then leave mission

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queue into new lobby

kind scarab
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Like, really

bitter turtle
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playing without tinkerer is suffering

frank ether
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if you need

empty heron
# kind scarab

The mod that shows (+X). What does this number mean? Like gearscore or something?

sharp ember
dreamy scaffold
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or account

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idk

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yeah character

sharp ember
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me matching into a lobby with the most disgusting loadout known to mankind and somebody comments how many levels i have and that i must be good

slow spade
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I use it to guess how good a player is

sharp ember
slow spade
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It was 3 other lvl 300+ players

dreamy scaffold
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basically anything past 30+5 should just be how well you create your loadout right?

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and skill

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cause past 30 nothing new happens

sharp ember
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more or less

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high levels are more likely to have godrolled gear, but not necessarily that they're using it

dreamy scaffold
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i mean there could be a 30+80 that has no clue what they are doing (rarer than diamond) but there could also be a 30+15 thats better than the 30+100

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its all basically a skill cap at that point

stuck bridge
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true level mod is cringe

slow spade
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Also that some lvl 30+500 SHOULD have their block key bound to something

sharp ember
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the +15 could be an alt with all the gamer skill carried over from their main

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and bolstered with banked blessings to transfer onto their gear

dreamy scaffold
stuck bridge
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blocing is a dps loss

dreamy scaffold
slow spade
dreamy scaffold
slow spade
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Brb getting block efficiency perk + curios so I can parry Nurgle

dreamy scaffold
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anytime anyone gets killed by a genuine bug: skill issue

slow spade
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idk if it works like that

dreamy scaffold
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it probably did before

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actually

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knowing DT it probably didnt

bitter turtle
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always feels good to get top dmg on knife

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tho my team did pretty well so I'm surprised

dreamy scaffold
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i cant get into using the knife or low damage weapons

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need big numbers

bitter turtle
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knife has big numbers

dreamy scaffold
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big numbers=big result

bitter turtle
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on one (1) a single target

slow spade
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Top damage isn't really what you should go for as Vet imo

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Top ammo picked up is your goal

bitter turtle
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suddenly two enemies = oh no

dreamy scaffold
sharp ember
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knife can mangle a crusher surprisingly fast, just that it folds when there's 2 KEKW_ogryn

bitter turtle
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2 crushers are ok

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at least they're slow

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2 ragers

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is how i died at the end b/c i got careless

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lol

dreamy scaffold
slow spade
bitter turtle
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i was like lemme just knife these

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oops

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ded

simple basalt
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can't believe this whole time i was playing bottom left side vet, i was taking more damage due to a bug

bitter turtle
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wut bug

slow spade
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Exhilarating Takedown is fucked apparently

frank ether
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exhilarating takedown makes you take more damage

lilac sonnet
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2 crushers are fine. 2 crushers + a random poxwalker blocking your dodge path? Oops...

slow spade
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"Headshot kills give toughness and toughness damage resist"

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But apparently doesn't work

frank ether
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so your reward for racking up elites is to take significantly higher toughness dmg

slow spade
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Idk I've never used it

bitter turtle
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who takes that anyway

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just take confirmed kill :^)

dreamy scaffold
slow spade
bitter turtle
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subhumans

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jk

frank ether
bitter turtle
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idk why i even said that

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i have a plasma myself

slow spade
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Plasma is basically the only gun that really gets value of it compared to Deadshot

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Only because plasma can't use Deadshot lol

bitter turtle
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that

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is why you go maximum RIGHT TREE woo

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and use a knife

lilac sonnet
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(Which does nothing for plasma i know)

bitter turtle
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looks like deadshot

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is a dead PERK too

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HA

frank ether
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deadshot is a good way to ensure you are permanently out of stamina

bitter turtle
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(for plasma)

frank ether
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on certain guns at least

dreamy scaffold
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i like to aim alot, i dont have stam ever if i run it

bitter turtle
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same

frank ether
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it can be worked around and for some guns its quite okay but its stupidly taxing

bitter turtle
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sometimes i run myself out on hb3

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i like adsing

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sue me

lilac sonnet
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I use it on hellbore. Its alright.

midnight patrol
frank ether
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should probably have different stamina costs based on weapon type used

midnight patrol
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Using deadshot on automatics is asking for trouble lol

frank ether
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or give up left tree altogether

kind scarab
simple basalt
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deadshot is trash on revolver, especially since the meta perks are already crit

kind scarab
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Aight, that maelstrom didn't go as badly as expected

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I was using a recon lasgun btw

bitter turtle
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wtf

kind scarab
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vs my friend running a perfect revolver

midnight patrol
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I'm literally running a deadshot lawgiver

frank ether
bitter turtle
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is that auric

kind scarab
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No, but T5

bitter turtle
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the total dmg is so low

midnight patrol
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Always either first or second on crits done

frank ether
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whats wrong with surgical deadshot revolver

slow spade
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I use Deadshot on Revolver because its not like I aim for like 10 secs

kind scarab
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I'd like to point out

frank ether
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that gun can ads and fire before the animation even plays

kind scarab
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We spent half of that match running from spawns

frank ether
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its absolutely ideal case for deadshot

kind scarab
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Not actually killing them

frank ether
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as ideal as it gets

kind scarab
slow spade
bitter turtle
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recon only good for cowardice 😔

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jk

kind scarab
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Just vet spamming shout to knock down the enemies

frank ether
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or are you going to tell me you take surgical revolver and sit in ads for a full second like a goofie

kind scarab
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And running forward

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It was hilarious

simple basalt
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why would u kill your stamina for an extra 25% crit when surgical can already get you there

slow spade
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Yeah no stagger and extremely high time to kill on recon makes maelstrom a pain

bitter turtle
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because

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do you actually want to si tthere

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adsing your revolver

slow spade
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"Oops all mutants"

bitter turtle
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for like 3 seconds

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for every shot

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not that surg is bad

slow spade
bitter turtle
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but they work together

frank ether
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because I dont have the luxury to take one full second on every kill

slow spade
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I play Vet for a reason

kind scarab
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It was specialist spawns + Muttie spawns + Faster Cooldown on ults

simple basalt
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no you dont need to do it for every shot lmao, and when i do it only takes half a second of aiming

frank ether
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if I did helbore would be the god emperor weapon

bitter turtle
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deadshot basically gives you extra crit oomph when you dont have the luxury of waiting on your shots

tepid pagoda
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Wait what

bitter turtle
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not every enemy is 120481204218 gorillion meters away waiting to die

slow spade
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Also makes sway a non-issue

tepid pagoda
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Who's saying don't run deadshot

slow spade
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Very nice

tepid pagoda
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On revolver

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???

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It's literally free

midnight patrol
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I know right?

lilac sonnet
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Need to run hellbore again... but having too much fun playing 'melee shouty' vet with laspistol

midnight patrol
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You use up so little stam per shot anyway

tepid pagoda
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Why is Vet chat the most unhinged takes

kind scarab
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Zealot chat is most unhinged

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whatchu on about

slow spade
tepid pagoda
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Yeahh but not about the game

slow spade
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Takes way more effort to use Helbore compared to VoC plasma 😔

karmic musk
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Welp saw a level 30 + 646 Veteran basically only use his gun for the whole Damnation run

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Was starved for ammo throughout XD

kind scarab
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He must be fun at parties

karmic musk
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Some braced autogun

midnight patrol
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lmao

slow spade
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Rip

midnight patrol
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Yeah no ammo is gone poof

kind scarab
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Gonna do another T5 (not maelstrom this time) and see how well the recon gun does

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Hopefully this time with less sub-level 30 randos

karmic musk
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when my rumbler ammo dropped to 0, i went fk it next 3 ammo pack is mine

slow spade
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At least if it was a lasgun he could probably get away with it

midnight patrol
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Recon ttk is horrible at that tier

kind scarab
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This time i won't pick up ammo

bitter turtle
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recon is just a bad iag

kind scarab
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Or at least I'll try

bitter turtle
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i really dont see a point

slow spade
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Recon was just a debuff machine in Patch 13

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Now it struggles to kill poxwalkers

bitter turtle
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its like the exact same gameplay but you trade being able to kill maniacs in a reasonable amount of time for less recoil

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nah

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its fine at poxwalkers

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they actually

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buffed that part

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lul

slow spade
bitter turtle
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its the one thing it does roughly as well as the iags

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spraying into hordes

slow spade
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Really? Felt like shit to me

bitter turtle
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i tested them against 50 the other day, they do about the same time

slow spade
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Maybe its the lack of stagger

midnight patrol
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the infantry lasguns can at least one or two tap shooters tho

bitter turtle
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the real problem is

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have you ever tried to kill a mutant with a recon

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even before the nerf it takes as long as killing a crusher lol

midnight patrol
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You dont lol

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Its already face humping you into a wall with half health

bitter turtle
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it hurts if you're covering the rear b/c it takes ages to shoot down flamers too

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relatively at least

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for how fast they should be going down

midnight patrol
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Infantry lasguns chew up maniacs so well

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mk12 and Mg1a just drop em in half a dozen shots at most to the body

gritty mirage
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why are you shooting at them, just saw through em sah pikahmm

slow spade
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Yeah I even have a good Recon

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It just feels so bad to use

midnight patrol
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the 12 can two to three tap

gritty mirage
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unless theres like a train of 10 mutants and a poxhorde beelining towards your line, then you have permission to shoot pikahmm

karmic musk
bitter turtle
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had to help a teammate

gritty mirage
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i play on auric im just messing with ya lol

bitter turtle
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that is too far away to melee a mutant

slow spade
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??? They're a vet player of course now

bitter turtle
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o

slow spade
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REAL Vet players simply steal the ammo next to their downed teammate UwU

midnight patrol
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Mine

slow spade
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We need Camo Expert Vets back

midnight patrol
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Isnt that just stealth vet now with the 10 second no agro talent?

slow spade
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I need to be able to load up my Hadron R34 mid-match

frank ether
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can I salvage this

slow spade
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I mean it looks pretty fine to me

gritty mirage
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yeh

frank ether
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maniac unyielding probably ok

slow spade
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Just really needs different blessings

frank ether
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those blessings tho

slow spade
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And boom fine

frank ether
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mm

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will do

bitter turtle
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dumdum firefrenzy

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ye

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too bad no flak though

gritty mirage
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cant be helped, itll suffice for now until they have enough plasteel and coin to sacrifice to Hadron again crying

bitter turtle
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i got p lucky with my agri

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but i never use it

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over columnus

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😔

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oops wrong one

midnight patrol
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The recoil on the columnus is pretty wild admitedly

bitter turtle
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the recoil on agri feels great

midnight patrol
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Agri is very good yeah

bitter turtle
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and sometimes i wish i had it when there's like the 12048120948120 sniper conditions

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but columnus damage is hard to give up

midnight patrol
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You can use it like a burst fire headhunter if you crouch or three round burst

kind scarab
forest maple
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Yeah i concur, the agri IAG is my go to gun atm

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super fun and strong

past knot
carmine cradle
bitter turtle
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an agri iag :^)

umbral scaffold
carmine cradle
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is it not a PLASMA GUN

bitter turtle
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do you like it

carmine cradle
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WHERES THE STOCK

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ITS FULL AUTO

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IT SHOULD HAVE A STOCK

bitter turtle
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its cuter without the stock

iron marten
carmine cradle
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i dont CARE

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it should have a goddam stock

forest maple
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hahahaha

spare wolf
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Forget about rationality when it comes to guns

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It's WH40K universe

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Do you think bolter makes sense

bitter turtle
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do you like my columnus

carmine cradle
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dont come crying to me when you cant hit shit because of how unstable the lack of stock makes it

iron marten
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bolter aka if gyrojet is practical

bitter turtle
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its like the little sibling

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of my agri

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slightly smaller

forest maple
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why do they both look like auto shotties

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is that a drum mag?

bitter turtle
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ya its the ripper mag

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lol

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er

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stubber*

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idk i dont play ogryn

forest maple
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Do you think we are ever getting better free weapon skins?

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than blue and red

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with stripes

gritty mirage
forest maple
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They should be rolling free skins like monthly

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or something

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doesnt have to be insane

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just something

gritty mirage
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they should pikahmm

carmine cradle
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and make it so the free skins backlog

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so if you leave for like 2 months u still get both skins

spare wolf
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You can just assume that

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When it comes to swedish(Or northern europe really)

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Forget about working hard on anything

slow spade
spare wolf
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They don't even have to try that hard

gritty mirage
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naw thats just AAA gaming these days

spare wolf
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Compared to other shitty nations we are living in

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lmao

karmic musk
gritty mirage
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thanks you just made me spit my water sandyderp

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perfect timing

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that being said i just have one gripe, the lobby loading is WAY too long.

spare wolf
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Alt + f4 and restart the game

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Much faster that way

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Sometimes this game just refuses to load up

undone cobalt
karmic musk
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I'm pretty sure they have some longstanding member that came from EA/Activision/Ubisoft

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Which is why we get shitty predatory systems in their games

undone cobalt
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Insofar there's even a hard qualification, triple A's kind of a vague term.

karmic musk
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Its more of a how much money you spent on making the game kind of term I guess

undone cobalt
spare wolf
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Fatshark CEO

undone cobalt
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Darktide just isn't the stereotypical "trying to do everything and failing at everything" high end triple A title.

karmic musk
undone cobalt
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Same with Creative Assembly, assuming they haven't already downsized to smaller numbers. Big studios with biiig budgets but relatively niche or tightly scoped games.

celest vine
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Bungie died

spare wolf
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Like most of other game copany CEOs

celest vine
gritty mirage
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too busy buying yachts

karmic musk
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CA is 70% in the grave

spare wolf
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And you know

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Tencent

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AKA chinese overlord

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Basically controls the fatshark studio

karmic musk
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Pretty sure they are hands-off company

spare wolf
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So.... yes

rocky stratus
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what are the best blessings/perks for the auto pistol

undone cobalt
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Tencent isn't really known for influencing game dev decisions.

rocky stratus
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is pinning fire good?

karmic musk
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ppl like to blame publishers but really I bet most decisions came from devs

undone cobalt
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They just fund and cash in.

sturdy crow
spare wolf
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I know some games under heavy tencents influences

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They might be look okay at first but every one of them

undone cobalt
undone cobalt
hearty panther
rocky stratus
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yes i do

spare wolf
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Turns into monetized shit

undone cobalt
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I've often heard people claim Tencent impacts actual development, but I've also heard people to this day claim Activision is the problem, not Blizzard (it was always Blizzard). People attribute blame to the wrong parties pretty quickly.

rocky stratus
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and then 25% damage to infested enemies is fine so i’ll use my two refinements into +25% to maniacs and adding raking fire

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or is there something better than +25 to maniacs i could use

hearty panther
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Flak

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Shredder already has pretty wild Maniac damage at base

bitter turtle
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you really want flak on any gun that isnt meant to take down specialists

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only

undone cobalt
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Same shit with Riot, probably Tencent's biggest studio. Riot was perfectly capable of turning their game into over monetized shite, Tencent probably had little to do with it. And if they don't really do that to Riot, I'm skeptical they'll do it to any smaller companies.

bitter turtle
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autopistol is a very spray into anything too close to your face kinda gun

hearty panther
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It needs more help with things like Gunners and Scab shooters

bitter turtle
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and most of the things too close to your face are flak enemies

spare wolf
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I'm pretty sure there's more

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When it comes to mobile games and shit

undone cobalt
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But because of Riot itself. Same with Paradox.

rocky stratus
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is there a big difference between lvl3 and 4 raking fire

hearty panther
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Can't recall.

spare wolf
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Especially with the recent copy pasted skin scandle

karmic musk
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Small damage bonus

undone cobalt
near shore
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Does anyone else parry bully plague ogryn and chaos spawns?

bitter turtle
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league didnt change much monetization post tencent

hearty panther
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What's level 3

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Level 4 is 40%

rocky stratus
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37.5% damage to shooting enemies in the back

undone cobalt
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Because Riot is a shitty company to begin with, and they've been using predatory practices since the start.

bitter turtle
south spindle
hearty panther
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Yea no biggie lol

undone cobalt
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Absolutely nothing changed to how League monetized the game after Tencent invested in Riot.

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I was there.

bitter turtle
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ya if anything it got better lul

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remember runes

delicate rivet
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No league trash in chat pls

rocky stratus
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what’s the max level modifiers can be btw

undone cobalt
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It was shite before, it was shite after.

karmic musk
spare wolf
near shore
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Parry = nu huh

rocky stratus
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currently at 363p

bitter turtle
south spindle
undone cobalt
bitter turtle
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it could have just

delicate rivet
south spindle
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I've not tried DH, but i would imagine it works on some of its attacks too

bitter turtle
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have nothing to do with them 🤔

spare wolf
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What are you talking about

near shore
lilac sonnet
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Hah, just read on reddit exhilerating takedown is bugged. It makes you take more dmg instead of less. KEKW_ogryn

undone cobalt
spare wolf
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Gatcha capsules looks improved to you?

bitter turtle
undone cobalt
bitter turtle
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imagine losing game because you bought a character instead of your mandatory stat boosts :^)

delicate rivet
undone cobalt
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Did you even play when rune pages was a thing?

near shore
cloud current
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what's an example of a stun and slow in the game that you'd want immunity for, besides like, beast of nurgle goo (does it actually make you immune to that slow?)

near shore
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It's how I deal with ragers,maulers and crushers

bitter turtle
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that cost multiple times over a single character btw

spare wolf
bitter turtle
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and you need multiple sets for every role you play

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ya but that was pre-tencent

fresh jungle
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mk 3 or 7?

spare wolf
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The game was practically remade at certain point

bitter turtle
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i agree with what the other person said, riot always had shitty monetization

undone cobalt
bitter turtle
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from start to finish

undone cobalt
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12 years ago.

delicate rivet
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Vet chat please

bitter turtle
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recon bad

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revolver stronk

trim hemlock
# fresh jungle mk 3 or 7?

It’s 3 or 6, not 7, but that’s beside the point. I’d take 6 any day over 3 after its recent changes

bitter turtle
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shout gud

serene bough
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its a shame recon is trash again

bitter turtle
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lmao smoke

kind scarab
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Recon ain't that bad actually

serene bough
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although ill admit before the nerf it did feel like a helgun

undone cobalt
kind scarab
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I ran it all morning and it's sorta aight rn

trim hemlock
bitter turtle
kind scarab
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Just gotta know whatchu getting yourself into

serene bough
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i kind of hope recon is that perpetual joke weapon that becomes god tier one patch then back to the dumpster the next patch honestly

kind scarab
serene bough
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at least one mark

kind scarab
bitter turtle
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that's true

spare wolf
bitter turtle
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I should be comapring it to a chainaxe

serene bough
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hate chaxe

bitter turtle
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it has longer range than a chainaxe

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wtf recon so good

undone cobalt
spare wolf
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You discounts the introductions of gacha capsules and limited skins behind paywall that's based on RNG

bitter turtle
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seriously though

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the damage is like, ok on most targets compared to iags (but still lower :^)

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then you shoot a mutant

bitter turtle
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and you see it do literally 1/3rd the dps

serene bough
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is that a columnus

bitter turtle
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ya

undone cobalt
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Riot has a history of scummy practices. Tencent had nothing to do with that, other than wanting the money. They didn't make the decision, they didn't think up the idea. Riot did.

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Riot's literally built on scummy practices.

serene bough
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columnus was always my favorite IAG

spare wolf
serene bough
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i know headhunters are good but i find them boring to use

spare wolf
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Maps are basically remade too

undone cobalt
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This is the company that would rent out venues so DotA tournaments couldn't be ran and they could promote their own game.

serene bough
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why are we talking about league trash

undone cobalt
finite cobalt
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Would you guys say that scav is 100% needed when running a plasma?

serene bough
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looks a lot more like league to me

undone cobalt
spare wolf
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Someone sounds like a tencent shareholder

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🤷‍♂️

undone cobalt
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Seriously, if you're going to blame Tencent for things, at least know your timelines. I'm not defending Tencent, they're a garbage Chinese investment company, they're pretty much as scummy as it gets. But they're also known for being very hands-off with their investment. They put money in, they want money out. How that money is generated, they don't care about. Some other companies want a lot of input, Tencent does not.

spare wolf
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I will stop talking

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Not lol chat you are right

undone cobalt
serene bough
near sable
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this is why I only play games from Scandinavian devs, so there's a one in three chance of perkele and DUIs, a one in three chance of surstromming and snus and a one in three chance of basically being a fantasy world

sharp ember
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scav is just too good (everything else is just not good enough to compete)

undone cobalt
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You were just wrong, it's okay. Not at one point did I defend or shill for tencent. Just don't like it when game studios get away with bullshit, because g*mers blame the evil publishers and investors.

serene bough
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the other auras are pretty garbage, 5% movespeed or 3% damage versus making ammo economy a non-issue for you and your team

lilac sonnet
bitter turtle
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if anyone doesn't believe my

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"literally 1/3rd maniac dmg"

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i even moved to a better spot

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to get a better shot on the head

serene bough
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yeah columnus always shredded maniacs

lilac sonnet
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Wat gun is that?

bitter turtle
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for recon

wanton dawn
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Plasma without survivalist is kinda hard

bitter turtle
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left is columnus, right is recon

spare wolf
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I think recon 6d is still fine

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But 2 and 7 is still trashy AF

serene bough
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admittedly i havent tried it since the nerf

near sable
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same.

bitter turtle
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is it really fine if there is literally nothing it does better than a similar gun

serene bough
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but recon mk2 has always been garbage

bitter turtle
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ill concede its probably usable in the sense that you can clear with it

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you can also clear with a grey

near sable
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it's got like ammo efficiency though

bitter turtle
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no it doesn't

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they nerfed shocktrooper :^)

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but only for recons :^)

near sable
bitter turtle
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you know the other guns that abused it for literal infinite ammo, that's fine tho

serene bough
near sable
#

stop having fun!!!

spare wolf
#

Cough helbore cough

bitter turtle
#

they clear roughly the same speed for trash hordes

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and ya i guess zero recoil

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if you have a

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skill issue

finite cobalt
serene bough
#

its just a better tool at all ranges

bitter turtle
#

its from the game files but its a mod that lets you stick it on other gun s

spare wolf
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In game one

serene bough
#

columnus you gotta get closer to manage the recoil reliably

bitter turtle
#

no

serene bough
#

but yeah, columnus still wins in just about every other catagory

bitter turtle
#

you can crouch

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and its honestly fine enough at almost all ranges

finite cobalt
#

Does any gun have that scope? Ive never seen it before

undone cobalt
bitter turtle
#

so its literally useless

serene bough
#

fine is not better than though, in which i find lasguns to be better and longer range engagements over the columnus

bitter turtle
#

well, not literal, but yeah

serene bough
#

but the argument im making is honestly pretty semantical

undone cobalt
#

God, imagine if they would.. Explain that somewhere, in the game. Like a.. Tip in a tool or something, I dunno.

serene bough
#

the comparison is between columnus vs recon 6d not agri

bitter turtle
#

the dps is a little lower than columnus but it still doesn't have absolutely atrocious maniac damage

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i think its worth considering all 3 iags since they are similar, all share blessings, and are all pretty viable as of the latest patch

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6d just doesn't offer anything over any one of the 3 you could pick

serene bough
#

personally i've been using the Mg4 and Mg1a lasguns

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both benefit from shocktrooper while also having good ammo efficiency

undone cobalt
serene bough
#

not bad

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cant be bricked at least

wet pendant
#

Mmh is health more valuable then the shield?

undone cobalt
#

From what I heard, it is on Ogryn, and I just realized this is Vet chat.

serene bough
#

its definitely usable on vet but it depends on who you ask

bitter turtle
#

i run 1 health 1 toughness 1 stam

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idk whats optimal tho

serene bough
#

I prefer HP over toughness

undone cobalt
#

Yeah if I got that on my Vet I'd be marginally less excited.

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Especially since Snipers are way less of a problem in that case.

bitter turtle
#

i run hp/toughness/sniper on most of mine still even on vet

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for subperks

wet pendant
#

There is any way to farm the weekly quest or nah?

bitter turtle
#

thinking about swapping one to ordo dockets tho

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im running out lul

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fucking knife

undone cobalt
#

When snipers are a problem, they're a big problem, but I find gunners the most consistently annoying.

bitter turtle
#

ive found less and less value from gunner resist the better i got at the game over time

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slide button op

sharp ember
#

respecting the gunner's killzone op

gritty dock
#

Does blessing +5-20% Damage Resistance (Gunners) also protect against snipers?

sharp ember
#

nah, you need Sniper resist

gritty dock
serene bough
#

I find all the damage resistance against specialists/elites kind of fall off the better you get

bitter turtle
#

where is poxburster resist

sharp ember
#

gunners only affects heavy gunners and reapers

serene bough
#

but the worst is bomber resist

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my understanding is it's only resistance against his kick and not his actual bombs

bitter turtle
#

op

empty heron
#

Toughness + toughness, toughess regen, stamina regen for vet all the way

bitter turtle
#

i dont like going all in on toughness anymore

serene bough
#

lately i've put revive speed on my curios

bitter turtle
#

my toughness never goes down unless i touch fire

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and then it drops to 0

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so who cares

serene bough
#

getting upto 50% revive speed is pretty good

empty heron
#

I fked up royally on auric maelstrom yesterday and still at the end of the mission I'd only taken 150 hp damage.

bitter turtle
#

feels like the major threat in auric mael is always just getting toughness negated

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not slowly being whittled down

sharp ember
#

too situational, wish it was all rescue animations and not just revive

serene bough
#

yeah i noticed that

bitter turtle
#

revive speed x3 + leave no one behind 🤔

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maximum the revives

serene bough
#

regardless it's still pretty clutch at times

bitter turtle
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or just run revive shout

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or run all 4

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never shoot

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only revive

#

complain about bad teammates that keep dying after

serene bough
#

darktide pacifist run

empty heron
serene bough
#

scream at teammates and do nothing to help them

empty heron
#

I like the thought of screaming downed teammates back to action

bitter turtle
#

im really divided on revive shout tbh

empty heron
#

He has a sniper hole the size of an orange in his chest. But you shouting at him gets him back up

bitter turtle
#

sometimes i feel like

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it never actually comes into play

serene bough
#

ive moved away from using it

bitter turtle
#

and i just ate a cooldown increase for no reason

undone cobalt
empty heron
#

Shout without revive is just better imo. Bcause you can spam it in every encounter

serene bough
#

the times you hold onto your revive could have been spent spamming toughness buffs to your team

bitter turtle
#

i dont hold it

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that's the thing

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since im used to spamming it w/o revive

#

ive only tried it with revive recently

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since ppl keep saying SO CLUTCH

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i was disappointed to learn

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it only helps downs

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and nothing else

tepid pagoda
#

Revive Shout is legit bad

empty heron
#

You could just use it and revive them manually anyways

bitter turtle
#

like, doesnt help ppl trapped or ppl that need rescue

sharp ember
#

after the cooldown buff to VoC, i think it's nice to have, just don't hold onto it at the start of the fight

tepid pagoda
#

It is almost a straight downside

gritty dock
#

Do you like 6-15% Sprint Efficiency 3 x 15 = 45 Sprint Efficiency or do you prefer something else?

sharp ember
#

i do regularly drop it if i want the talent point tho

bitter turtle
#

that's the problem

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i have exactly

bitter turtle
#

1 point left over

#

and idk what to put it on

tepid pagoda
#

Show build

serene bough
#

i dont bother with sprint efficiency on my curios

empty heron
#

Show build

sharp ember
#

you got Close Order Drill + Aura Size?

serene bough
#

stamina regen prefered

tepid pagoda
#

Just don't use stamina

#

Easy

empty heron
#

Tell that to my deadshot revolver

serene bough
#

i like a wee bit of stamina

bitter turtle
#

wtb 1 more point so i can get tink or demo team

empty heron
#

IRON WILL

sharp ember
#

sprint eff is funny but same i prefer regen for when it's a real slog

empty heron
#

Jee

bitter turtle
#

no

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i dont lik eiron will anymore either

empty heron
#

it's insane

tepid pagoda
sharp ember
#

Why NOT

bitter turtle
#

but i felt like a cheater

tepid pagoda
#

Iron Will is meh

empty heron
#

You become a literal tank

bitter turtle
#

so i moved pts to extra nade lul

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cause

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its like i said before

#

in auric mael

carmine cradle
#

ogryn carried, but i contributed

sharp ember
#

it removes corruption chip from poxbursters

bitter turtle
#

either i dont lose toughness

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or i lose everything at once to fire

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so

serene bough
#

I have no idea why grenade tinkerer gives stun immunity

bitter turtle
#

iron will feels pointless

serene bough
#

it's really boggling to me

empty heron
bitter turtle
#

its prob a holdover from old vet tree

tepid pagoda
bitter turtle
#

remember they said they reworked it

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right before release

sharp ember
#

a literal mistake, i wager soon to be corrected when it gathers enough attention

tepid pagoda
bitter turtle
#

anyway i took off tink just cause i dont want to get used to it if they remove it

tepid pagoda
#

A bit more with Shout though I haven't tested that interaction

serene bough
#

My understanding with shout though is that ironwill applies to all THP overshield

bitter turtle
#

its good if you find yourself getting toughness worn down

sharp ember
#

feels like it

tepid pagoda
#

I took it off and literally never felt a difference

bitter turtle
#

i just dont see it

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in auric mael

empty heron
bitter turtle
#

its always either im ok because CK is stronk, or i lose everything at once because lmao toe touched fire

tepid pagoda
#

And I do that without those things

bitter turtle
#

anyway

empty heron
#

hm. Guess I'm not that good yet

bitter turtle
#

1 hanging point

gritty dock
bitter turtle
#

sadge

tepid pagoda
#

I will have to try if it works for overtoughness

bitter turtle
#

it does work for overtoughness

sharp ember
bitter turtle
#

before the buffs i would take it

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b/c it helped a lot with shout

tepid pagoda
#

But overtoughness is already dumb

bitter turtle
#

but shout is +100 now

#

if you lose that

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its to fire and nothing else lol

empty heron
#

how about agile engagement?

#

I love it

bitter turtle
#

its prob a good idea

serene bough
bitter turtle
#

but i dont like it

#

so fug it

sharp ember
#

so if you're sprinting into a hostile group, you have more stamina to play with

empty heron
#

forces you to swap between ranged and melee a lot

#

very fun

sharp ember
#

or just jogging longer in general

bitter turtle
#

maybe ill get field improv 👻

gritty dock
serene bough
#

no desire for bleed?

sharp ember
#

so it's pretty good if you love sprinting, but it also means you aren't KILLING whatthefuck_heresy

serene bough
#

can synergize with mercy killer

bitter turtle
#

bleed uselesss without mercy killer

gritty mirage
#

i love the chainsword plasma combo, shoot once into the incoming horde, then swap to chainsword, if feel crowd too big swap to plasma again and shoot

bitter turtle
#

im using precog knife

serene bough
#

i see

tepid pagoda
#

Mercy Killer bad anyway because bleed bad

bitter turtle
#

it was ok

serene bough
#

yeah field improv or revive perk probably worth your salt

bitter turtle
#

but needing to get 1 hit first for it to activate felt bad

serene bough
#

bleed is good but bleed knives are a trap

bitter turtle
#

i tried mercy killer/executor/precog

#

all 3

#

executor would be better if the punch hitreg was actually not shit

serene bough
#

personally my knife i use uncanny strikes + riposte

bitter turtle
#

er

#

if you cancel too fast your hits dont reg

#

its not so bad for the knife slashes

#

but you have to wait so fugging long for punches

#

not worth

tepid pagoda
serene bough
#

what is this for

tepid pagoda
#

Bleed is only good on bad things

bitter turtle
#

my video?

#

amusement

tepid pagoda
serene bough
#

what bad things

bitter turtle
#

i was showing ppl how punch hitreg is bad and i realized i can make the knife slashes miss too

tepid pagoda
#

Ogryn and Knife

#

Kek

serene bough
#

i like bleed on chainsword for monstrosity

tepid pagoda
#

200 DPS on bosses isn't that much

serene bough
#

Bloodletter + bleed perk

tepid pagoda
#

Might be 400 even

#

Meh

serene bough
#

basically means you'll have full stack of bleed as long as you'rein melee

#

good dps

tepid pagoda
#

Yeah but why

#

It's only vs bosses

serene bough
#

why not

tepid pagoda
#

And it's not even huge

serene bough
#

bloodletter will push ragers over breakpoints

tepid pagoda
#

It's a like 10-20% damage buff against one type

serene bough
#

can 1hko them with a rev attack

tepid pagoda
#

And that's good because the other three ragers won't kill you

serene bough
#

if they're stunned or occupied, they wont

tepid pagoda
#

If you can rev s rager I feel like the kill isn't that big of a deal

serene bough
#

what do you do on your chainsword then

sturdy crow
#

Run shout so you can stagger and saw like 2-3 before the others become a problem again

tepid pagoda
#

I don't because chainswords are lame

#

But probably shred, rampage or sweep

sturdy crow
#

I run shred and bloodletter on mine, it's working pretty well against both hordes and elites

serene bough
#

i dont find rampage that worth it because it's already so powerful

tepid pagoda
#

Yeah because it's overtuned rn

serene bough
#

so i go with savage sweep + bloodletter

tepid pagoda
#

Unlike other weapons that need blessings

gritty dock
#

@sharp ember How does blessing +1-3 Max Stamina work?
How does +3 Stamina affect Stamina?

tepid pagoda
#

You get 3 more stamina

bitter turtle
#

3 more bars of stamina

sharp ember
#

yeah, what they said

serene bough
#

im just saying being able to 1hko ragers and unyielding (idk about reapers actually but bulwarks will melt) with a rev attack and being able to get full stacks of bleed on a boss is definitely useful, even if other strategies exist

tepid pagoda
#

There's no secret to stamina

bitter turtle
#

+3 sections to your stamina bar

gritty dock
sharp ember
#

it's pretty handy, but your regeneration rate does not increase with it

bitter turtle
#

they add 3 to your stamina gauge

#

three (3) stamina

tepid pagoda
bitter turtle
#

not 2

#

less than 4

serene bough
#

i dont agree its pretty impactful to the weapons dps

sturdy crow
bitter turtle
#

i was trying not to reference it

#

but then I did it

untold mulch
carmine cradle
#

why use knife when can use powersword?

near shore
#

i mean ive got a crackhead vet bulid

#

knife can 2 shot crushers

#

120% rending + 60% weakspot dmg (agianst bleeding)

lost epoch
#

How what the hell

uneven ivy
undone cobalt
unkempt lagoon
#

Man I just tried the combat shovel... this shit is BUSSIN

#

what are best blessings for it

candid bridge
#

Ong fr fr fam

willow badger
#

Shovel is vibes. Surprised more ppl don't use it tbh

iron marten
#

almost there, maybe in 3 days

hardy ember
#

So any new veteran weapon ideas floating about? Like a hotshot lasgun or melta guns?

short comet
candid bridge
#

Thrust also seems good

untold mulch
#

Actually proof of any

iron marten
#

having a meltagun implemented will be so funny

candid bridge
#

There’s datamined stuff

junior grail
unkempt lagoon
#

what is the difference between +power% and +impact%?

junior grail
#

Impact is relating to stagger. Power affects damage, stagger, cleave

unkempt lagoon
#

ahh thanks, thought it might be like tht

junior grail
#

TLDR always get power

hardy ember
#

Well seeing as the scab and dreg gunners use hot shot lasguns and belt fed auto guns. I don’t see why not we could use it

stark moth
#

Yo the fucking las pistol

junior grail
stark moth
#

Im dropping specs the same speed as a normal las rifle

#

But running 5000 mph

glacial peak
#

hey vet chat what ammo roll do you need on an agri combat shotty to get the 13th round?

junior grail
dusty ferry
stark moth
#

I got a shit roll and its got amazing ammo still and dam

junior grail
#

Crits like crazy and weakspot damage is super high

candid bridge
stark moth
#

Yeah the crits are wild

junior grail
#

Also very stable hip fire

stark moth
#

Never run out ammo on hardest

stark moth
#

If you hipfire chest it almost always headshots somehow

junior grail
#

It has very high headshot priority if I remember right

candid bridge
stark moth
#

Im literally gunning trash mobs and specs and have plenty ammo

#

Im like assail psyker

candid bridge
dusty ferry
untold mulch
#

I need more las dammit

junior grail
#

Las sniper for me

#

Gotta give Snipers a taste of their own medicine

#

I hope we get a dual laspistol variant

#

I wanna go yeehaw pew pew lasers

candid bridge
untold mulch
#

Just variants looks like

spare wolf
#

Recon las 2 and 7 utter trash

#

Buff when

junior grail
#

We had these datamines for months already though

stark moth
#

Or boring at least

candid bridge
#

For sure

stark moth
#

Basically reskins with perk/stat changes

#

Don’t forget nothing for oggy that is new

junior grail
#

Different attack patterns UuuUUoOooooGGhh

untold mulch
#

Any day now

junior grail
#

I want Shield and Cleaver

spare wolf
untold mulch
#

They have been trash since release, Fatshark honeslty I dont believe gives a fuck

stark moth
#

I want lightning claws or power fist for ogryn

#

And left hand for power fist be a choke and throw

junior grail
#

Now thats just silly LOL

candid bridge
stark moth
junior grail
#

Seeing what we have in game? Doubt

stark moth
#

Wym

#

That’s like basic ass melee weapons to make lmfao

untold mulch
junior grail
#

Lightning Claws as basic ass melee weapon ...hmmmm

candid bridge
#

Krieg skin sucks to me so I’m fine with that lol

untold mulch
#

Pretty much

#

Head is all wrong

junior grail
candid bridge
junior grail
# stark moth

Imperial Guard General having basic ass melee weapon I see

charred gyro
#

5 Diamantine - Now be grateful for your compensation.

iron marten
#

they didn't let the krieg coat dangle fully so krieg is dead to me

junior grail
#

I just want a Maccabian Janissary Death Mask

fast scaffold
#

My favorite part about the Krieg skin for vet is the pants go with alot of different sets for mix and match, you can't mix the helmet or chest without looking like a budget dork

celest vine
#

I want the title screen helmet and mask

#

(Already in game)

fast scaffold
#

That's coming in anniversary update ide wager

junior grail
#

Very few of premium cosmetics can be interchanged without looking out of place

celest vine
#

So next year

candid bridge
junior grail
# celest vine

Force Great Sword was in Psyker trailer too no? Hahaha

tall torrent
untold mulch
#

A month has already passed

fast scaffold
junior grail
fast scaffold
#

What sucks is the next rotation is gonna be a redo/suck because if they put out something people want after compensation they won't make money off of it

junior grail
#

Someone mentioned a beta poncho in the comments. Hilarious

stark moth
candid bridge
#

I want my god damn headsets the bots wear

fast scaffold
#

Like no way in hell we get aquillas and they release the scion set

junior grail
stark moth
#

The only force greatsword we know, not a normal force sword, is the nemesis and SM can barely lift it

junior grail
stark moth
#

We gonna have vet shooting the storm bolt before long

tall torrent
#

The trailer male zealot had a book on his back
Not available in game I’d assume lol

junior grail
#

Book backpack cosmetic hahahahaha

stark moth
#

Yeah put the book where you can’t reach it

#

Fuck the hip book chain clasps

fast scaffold
#

All of this stuff (minus weapons stuff) is in the game and has been edited recently

atomic zephyr
#

hellgun when

tall torrent
#

The trailer Ogryn armor set is literally not in the game (the closest thing is the Mortis set)

junior grail
#

When in hell

junior grail
#

Yea I was expecting that armour with the final achievements, yet I got a very nude Ogryn

stark moth
#

Tf he got a SM history book?

#

Codex?

#

Damn

junior grail
#

Lectitio Divinatus

tall torrent
#

Yea idk why none of these are available for players to use or even see without mods

junior grail
#

I wonder if the mod that randomises Cosmetics allows you to see it

tall torrent
#

Yea that’s the Ogryn trailer armor lol

fast scaffold
#

Malleus manufactorum

junior grail
stark moth
fast scaffold
fast scaffold
stark moth
#

Mf just makes your relic useless

candid bridge
tall torrent
frank ether
candid bridge
junior grail
#

Considering they have a lot to fix for penances... it might take a while

tall torrent
#

U want smth more messed up?
Heavy swords (zealot) are used by Vostroyan firstborn (a guards regiment) but are not available to Veterans
Dueling swords (Psyker) are used by Death Korp of Krieg (another guards regiment) but are not available to Veterans

fast scaffold
chilly steeple
#

SEND HELP

frank ether
candid bridge
junior grail
frank ether
#

two can play that game

frank ether
#

also dont go assuming you'll get aquillas

fast scaffold
#

I think this stuff is gonna be premium and not penance.

chilly steeple
junior grail
#

@fast scaffold is there Kasrkin Helm with Visor?

wraith locust
fast scaffold
frank ether
#

I just threw a game by waking up a daemonhost

#

dark map

#

graia iag

candid bridge
junior grail
fast scaffold
junior grail
frank ether
#

and then the zealot

junior grail
#

Oh no, daemon cooties

frank ether
#

I dont like dhosts

#

I dont like how one mission has like 5 of them in narrow paths

fast scaffold
#

My guess is we are gonna get 2 of the following for the anniversary and in a perfect world all of it

  1. 6-12 weapon patterns
  2. 2-6 maps
  3. Penances for each class
tall torrent
#

I just hope the promo art cosmetics won’t be in paid shop

frank ether
#

My theory is that I woke it up from either suppression or a penetrating bullet

candid bridge
#

I just want the vet character creator headset they wear 😔

tall torrent
fast scaffold
#

They're not, but I think the gasmask vet is the infiltration vet cosmetics if I had to guess

tall torrent
#

They’ll prob expand penances around new skill trees when they get to it

#

“Provide 10000 toughness to your teammates with VoC”

#

Smth like that

fast scaffold
#

Yeah that's the most likely course

carmine cradle
#

3rd time this week ive had quad vet

celest vine
tall torrent
candid bridge
#

Feel that

candid bridge
sullen scarab
#

Do you want to take Sunder/Brutal Momentum on powerswords nowadays over Slaughterer?

candid bridge
#

Rampage, slaughter, bromomentum are all top choices

#

Sunder is good if you have nothing else tho

umbral scaffold
#

do female psykers look better than male

sullen scarab
#

Awesome thanks

radiant chasm
sullen scarab
#

Nice nice

candid bridge
sullen scarab
#

I just have a VI where I changed both blessings on it to PC and Slaughterer so I have room to change it to something else

radiant chasm