#veteran-class
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+2 upgrade
are you queuing for eu?
Yes
playing without tinkerer is suffering
The mod that shows (+X). What does this number mean? Like gearscore or something?
level ups past 30, purely cosmetic for gauging how much xp a character has
Aha. Cheers.
cosmetic, people generally use it to see just how much longer someones played that class
or account
idk
yeah character
me matching into a lobby with the most disgusting loadout known to mankind and somebody comments how many levels i have and that i must be good
I use it to guess how good a player is

Lol yeah had a lvl 30+13 mention how he hopes he could keep up and I was like "this is my plasteel farming build"
It was 3 other lvl 300+ players
basically anything past 30+5 should just be how well you create your loadout right?
and skill
cause past 30 nothing new happens
What everyone else said
more or less
high levels are more likely to have godrolled gear, but not necessarily that they're using it
i mean there could be a 30+80 that has no clue what they are doing (rarer than diamond) but there could also be a 30+15 thats better than the 30+100
its all basically a skill cap at that point
true level mod is cringe
Also that some lvl 30+500 SHOULD have their block key bound to something
the +15 could be an alt with all the gamer skill carried over from their main
and bolstered with banked blessings to transfer onto their gear
alot of players ive seen that crutch off it are chronically toxic
blocing is a dps loss
just dodge
That's why I use parry spam 💪
lmao
Brb getting block efficiency perk + curios so I can parry Nurgle
anytime anyone gets killed by a genuine bug: skill issue
idk if it works like that
it should
it probably did before
actually
knowing DT it probably didnt
always feels good to get top dmg on knife
tho my team did pretty well so I'm surprised
big numbers=big result
on one (1) a single target
Top damage isn't really what you should go for as Vet imo
Top ammo picked up is your goal
suddenly two enemies = oh no
well top anything other than deaths
knife can mangle a crusher surprisingly fast, just that it folds when there's 2 
2 crushers are ok
at least they're slow
2 ragers
is how i died at the end b/c i got careless
lol
block or there goes health
I will literally nosedive 20 ragers to deny my Ogryn ally his Kickback ammo
can't believe this whole time i was playing bottom left side vet, i was taking more damage due to a bug
wut bug
Exhilarating Takedown is fucked apparently
exhilarating takedown makes you take more damage
2 crushers are fine. 2 crushers + a random poxwalker blocking your dodge path? Oops...
"Headshot kills give toughness and toughness damage resist"
But apparently doesn't work
so your reward for racking up elites is to take significantly higher toughness dmg
Idk I've never used it
sums up alot of DT perks
Plasma gunners
what a silly question
Plasma is basically the only gun that really gets value of it compared to Deadshot
Only because plasma can't use Deadshot lol
Well... you are better off going right to get the 5% extra ranged dmg. But you will be forced to get deadshot
(Which does nothing for plasma i know)
deadshot is a good way to ensure you are permanently out of stamina
(for plasma)
on certain guns at least
yeah i dont enjoy it, even if it does help
i like to aim alot, i dont have stam ever if i run it
same
it can be worked around and for some guns its quite okay but its stupidly taxing
I use it on hellbore. Its alright.
It works super well on shotguns and percision semi autos
should probably have different stamina costs based on weapon type used
Using deadshot on automatics is asking for trouble lol
your alternative rn is to take significantly higher toughness damage
or give up left tree altogether
deadshot is trash on revolver, especially since the meta perks are already crit
wtf
vs my friend running a perfect revolver
I'm literally running a deadshot lawgiver
thats bizarre, dont you run surgical on revolver
is that auric
No, but T5
the total dmg is so low
Always either first or second on crits done
whats wrong with surgical deadshot revolver
I use Deadshot on Revolver because its not like I aim for like 10 secs
I'd like to point out
that gun can ads and fire before the animation even plays
We spent half of that match running from spawns
its absolutely ideal case for deadshot
Not actually killing them
as ideal as it gets

The Maelstrom experience
Just vet spamming shout to knock down the enemies
or are you going to tell me you take surgical revolver and sit in ads for a full second like a goofie
why would u kill your stamina for an extra 25% crit when surgical can already get you there
Yeah no stagger and extremely high time to kill on recon makes maelstrom a pain
"Oops all mutants"
Yes?
but they work together
because I dont have the luxury to take one full second on every kill
I play Vet for a reason
It was specialist spawns + Muttie spawns + Faster Cooldown on ults
no you dont need to do it for every shot lmao, and when i do it only takes half a second of aiming
if I did helbore would be the god emperor weapon
deadshot basically gives you extra crit oomph when you dont have the luxury of waiting on your shots
Wait what
not every enemy is 120481204218 gorillion meters away waiting to die
Also makes sway a non-issue
Who's saying don't run deadshot
Very nice
I know right?
Need to run hellbore again... but having too much fun playing 'melee shouty' vet with laspistol
You use up so little stam per shot anyway
Yeah its a shame teams can't cover a Helbore user worth shit
Yeahh but not about the game
Takes way more effort to use Helbore compared to VoC plasma 😔
Welp saw a level 30 + 646 Veteran basically only use his gun for the whole Damnation run
Was starved for ammo throughout XD
He must be fun at parties
What gun?
Some braced autogun
lmao
Rip
Yeah no ammo is gone poof
Gonna do another T5 (not maelstrom this time) and see how well the recon gun does
Hopefully this time with less sub-level 30 randos

when my rumbler ammo dropped to 0, i went fk it next 3 ammo pack is mine
At least if it was a lasgun he could probably get away with it
Recon ttk is horrible at that tier
This time i won't pick up ammo
recon is just a bad iag
Or at least I'll try
i really dont see a point
its like the exact same gameplay but you trade being able to kill maniacs in a reasonable amount of time for less recoil
nah
its fine at poxwalkers
they actually
buffed that part
lul
Compared to the other guns, its still struggling 😔
Really? Felt like shit to me
i tested them against 50 the other day, they do about the same time
Maybe its the lack of stagger
the infantry lasguns can at least one or two tap shooters tho
the real problem is
have you ever tried to kill a mutant with a recon
even before the nerf it takes as long as killing a crusher lol
it hurts if you're covering the rear b/c it takes ages to shoot down flamers too
relatively at least
for how fast they should be going down
Infantry lasguns chew up maniacs so well
mk12 and Mg1a just drop em in half a dozen shots at most to the body
why are you shooting at them, just saw through em sah 
the 12 can two to three tap
unless theres like a train of 10 mutants and a poxhorde beelining towards your line, then you have permission to shoot 
That's a martyr right there
have you never like
had to help a teammate
i play on auric im just messing with ya lol
that is too far away to melee a mutant
??? They're a vet player of course now
o
REAL Vet players simply steal the ammo next to their downed teammate UwU
Hey they're pushing up daiseys. They cant do shit with that ammo
Mine
We need Camo Expert Vets back
Isnt that just stealth vet now with the 10 second no agro talent?
I need to be able to load up my Hadron R34 mid-match
Only 10 secs 😔
I mean it looks pretty fine to me
yeh
maniac unyielding probably ok
Just really needs different blessings
those blessings tho
And boom fine
cant be helped, itll suffice for now until they have enough plasteel and coin to sacrifice to Hadron again 
i got p lucky with my agri
but i never use it
over columnus
😔
oops wrong one
The recoil on the columnus is pretty wild admitedly
the recoil on agri feels great
Agri is very good yeah
and sometimes i wish i had it when there's like the 12048120948120 sniper conditions
but columnus damage is hard to give up
You can use it like a burst fire headhunter if you crouch or three round burst
Hadron Goth girlfriend mod when
Shes over 400 yo
what the fuck is this
an agri iag :^)
And?
its cuter without the stock
some people understandably don't want to dance with death
hahahaha
Forget about rationality when it comes to guns
It's WH40K universe
Do you think bolter makes sense

dont come crying to me when you cant hit shit because of how unstable the lack of stock makes it
bolter aka if gyrojet is practical
Do you think we are ever getting better free weapon skins?
than blue and red
with stripes

They should be rolling free skins like monthly
or something
doesnt have to be insane
just something
they should 
and make it so the free skins backlog
so if you leave for like 2 months u still get both skins
You can just assume that
When it comes to swedish(Or northern europe really)
Forget about working hard on anything
Next week
They don't even have to try that hard
naw thats just AAA gaming these days
Fatshark delusions of being AAA 
thanks you just made me spit my water 
perfect timing
that being said i just have one gripe, the lobby loading is WAY too long.
Alt + f4 and restart the game
Much faster that way
Sometimes this game just refuses to load up
They have roughly 200 employees, which is close enough to qualify.
I'm pretty sure they have some longstanding member that came from EA/Activision/Ubisoft
Which is why we get shitty predatory systems in their games
Insofar there's even a hard qualification, triple A's kind of a vague term.
Its more of a how much money you spent on making the game kind of term I guess
Yeah, but to be fair that's often related to the number of people in your employment.
Ultimately the decision was made from the very top of the company
Fatshark CEO
Darktide just isn't the stereotypical "trying to do everything and failing at everything" high end triple A title.
LIkely doesnt play his own games 
Same with Creative Assembly, assuming they haven't already downsized to smaller numbers. Big studios with biiig budgets but relatively niche or tightly scoped games.
Bungie died
Like most of other game copany CEOs

too busy buying yachts
CA is 70% in the grave
Pretty sure they are hands-off company
So.... yes
what are the best blessings/perks for the auto pistol
Tencent isn't really known for influencing game dev decisions.
is pinning fire good?
ppl like to blame publishers but really I bet most decisions came from devs
They just fund and cash in.
Well that's not really something you'd expect though is it? How many here are using the product they work with?
That's very naive assumption tbh
I know some games under heavy tencents influences
They might be look okay at first but every one of them
It's probably a mix. Worst offenders are usually middle management executives with enough delusions of grandeur to think their ideas are great, but not enough power and money that they stop caring. Either that, or senior developers that are a little too entrenched in their cushy safe job.
Such as?
Pinning Fire and Raking Fire, presuming you use infiltrate.
yes i do
Turns into monetized shit
I've often heard people claim Tencent impacts actual development, but I've also heard people to this day claim Activision is the problem, not Blizzard (it was always Blizzard). People attribute blame to the wrong parties pretty quickly.
and then 25% damage to infested enemies is fine so i’ll use my two refinements into +25% to maniacs and adding raking fire
or is there something better than +25 to maniacs i could use
Same shit with Riot, probably Tencent's biggest studio. Riot was perfectly capable of turning their game into over monetized shite, Tencent probably had little to do with it. And if they don't really do that to Riot, I'm skeptical they'll do it to any smaller companies.
autopistol is a very spray into anything too close to your face kinda gun
It needs more help with things like Gunners and Scab shooters
and most of the things too close to your face are flak enemies
League, Epic games, Pradox interactive are the most famous examples i can think of
I'm pretty sure there's more
When it comes to mobile games and shit
League didn't go to monetized shit because of Tencent.
But because of Riot itself. Same with Paradox.
is there a big difference between lvl3 and 4 raking fire
It did tho
Can't recall.
Especially with the recent copy pasted skin scandle
Small damage bonus
No, it didn't. It went to monetized shit because of Riot itself.
Does anyone else parry bully plague ogryn and chaos spawns?
league didnt change much monetization post tencent
37.5% damage to shooting enemies in the back
Because Riot is a shitty company to begin with, and they've been using predatory practices since the start.
tencent acquired league ages upon ages ago
Ye, at every opportunity 
Yea no biggie lol
Absolutely nothing changed to how League monetized the game after Tencent invested in Riot.
I was there.
No league trash in chat pls
what’s the max level modifiers can be btw
It was shite before, it was shite after.
Dota trash here
That's why i said at first it seems nothing much changed but eventually it will
Let's goooooo another user of "stop hitting yourself idiot"
Parry = nu huh
currently at 363p
i mean, its been nearly a decade since the acquisition
It do be like that
You can parry a lot of the Spawn's attacks too
Bruh, Tencent's owned Riot for like a decade now. And arguably, monetization has improved since then.
it could have just
If its not a WH40K MOBA, i dont want it
I've not tried DH, but i would imagine it works on some of its attacks too
have nothing to do with them 🤔
It didn't
What are you talking about
Laughs in 8 stamina + Regen on dodge + Regen curio
Hah, just read on reddit exhilerating takedown is bugged. It makes you take more dmg instead of less. 
You get free shit now, and there's more sales and generally higher quality skins.
Gatcha capsules looks improved to you?
i dont play league nowadays but runes not existing is definitely much more f2p friendly than before than anything skin related
It looks improved over runes yeah, lmfao.
imagine losing game because you bought a character instead of your mandatory stat boosts :^)
Currently experiencing delusions of grandeur due to completing a mission w it on 
Did you even play when rune pages was a thing?
Using devil claw to bully bosses and such
what's an example of a stun and slow in the game that you'd want immunity for, besides like, beast of nurgle goo (does it actually make you immune to that slow?)
It's how I deal with ragers,maulers and crushers
that cost multiple times over a single character btw
This was literally like 10 years ago or something
mk 3 or 7?
The game was practically remade at certain point
i agree with what the other person said, riot always had shitty monetization
You realize Tencent acquired Riot in 2011, right?
from start to finish
12 years ago.
Vet chat please
It’s 3 or 6, not 7, but that’s beside the point. I’d take 6 any day over 3 after its recent changes
shout gud
its a shame recon is trash again
lmao smoke
Recon ain't that bad actually
although ill admit before the nerf it did feel like a helgun
Imagine a certain character having an extra rune and rune page tax, because it's one of the two or three units that needs this one specific rune that no other champ cares about 
I ran it all morning and it's sorta aight rn
Give it time. I doubt they will leave it as is
idk having literally 1/3rd dps compared to iag on maniacs is pretty bad
Just gotta know whatchu getting yourself into
i kind of hope recon is that perpetual joke weapon that becomes god tier one patch then back to the dumpster the next patch honestly
Just don't compare it to other guns and respect it for what it is
at least one mark

that's true
Yes before the "remake" of the game
I should be comapring it to a chainaxe
hate chaxe
What remake? You mean the map refresh? The rune rework? The game was never fully "remade".
You discounts the introductions of gacha capsules and limited skins behind paywall that's based on RNG
seriously though
the damage is like, ok on most targets compared to iags (but still lower :^)
then you shoot a mutant
And that's 100% on Riot.
and you see it do literally 1/3rd the dps
is that a columnus
ya
Riot has a history of scummy practices. Tencent had nothing to do with that, other than wanting the money. They didn't make the decision, they didn't think up the idea. Riot did.
Riot's literally built on scummy practices.
columnus was always my favorite IAG
Let's see, launcher basically got remade, rune and rune pages are replaced to better "rune" system that we still have rn
i know headhunters are good but i find them boring to use
Maps are basically remade too
This is the company that would rent out venues so DotA tournaments couldn't be ran and they could promote their own game.
why are we talking about league trash
Moreso talking about Tencent.
Would you guys say that scav is 100% needed when running a plasma?
looks a lot more like league to me
And nothing about that has anything to do with Tencent. You call me naive, but ngl, you seem like the naive one, mindlessly blaming the "evil chinese company" for all the wrong in a game.
Seriously, if you're going to blame Tencent for things, at least know your timelines. I'm not defending Tencent, they're a garbage Chinese investment company, they're pretty much as scummy as it gets. But they're also known for being very hands-off with their investment. They put money in, they want money out. How that money is generated, they don't care about. Some other companies want a lot of input, Tencent does not.
Bro, come on now.
scav in general is worth taking over all the other auras
this is why I only play games from Scandinavian devs, so there's a one in three chance of perkele and DUIs, a one in three chance of surstromming and snus and a one in three chance of basically being a fantasy world
scav is just too good (everything else is just not good enough to compete)
You were just wrong, it's okay. Not at one point did I defend or shill for tencent. Just don't like it when game studios get away with bullshit, because g*mers blame the evil publishers and investors.
the other auras are pretty garbage, 5% movespeed or 3% damage versus making ammo economy a non-issue for you and your team
Its for your teammates. Calling dips on ammo pickups ^^
if anyone doesn't believe my
"literally 1/3rd maniac dmg"
i even moved to a better spot
to get a better shot on the head
yeah columnus always shredded maniacs
Wat gun is that?
for recon
Plasma without survivalist is kinda hard
left is columnus, right is recon
admittedly i havent tried it since the nerf
same.
is it really fine if there is literally nothing it does better than a similar gun
but recon mk2 has always been garbage
ill concede its probably usable in the sense that you can clear with it
you can also clear with a grey
it's got like ammo efficiency though
you know the other guns that abused it for literal infinite ammo, that's fine tho
i guess the one thing it has over columnus is that it's zero recoil and huge clip size it can clear shooter trash more effectively
stop having fun!!!
Cough helbore cough
they clear roughly the same speed for trash hordes
and ya i guess zero recoil
if you have a
skill issue
Is that scope from the game files or is it like a mod made one?
its just a better tool at all ranges
its from the game files but its a mod that lets you stick it on other gun s
In game one
columnus you gotta get closer to manage the recoil reliably
no
but yeah, columnus still wins in just about every other catagory
Does any gun have that scope? Ive never seen it before
How was it nerfed? Tooltip doesn't mention anything about it.
only refunds on the first shot of reconn's crit string now
so its literally useless
fine is not better than though, in which i find lasguns to be better and longer range engagements over the columnus
well, not literal, but yeah
but the argument im making is honestly pretty semantical
just use the agri then, tbh
God, imagine if they would.. Explain that somewhere, in the game. Like a.. Tip in a tool or something, I dunno.
the comparison is between columnus vs recon 6d not agri
the dps is a little lower than columnus but it still doesn't have absolutely atrocious maniac damage
i think its worth considering all 3 iags since they are similar, all share blessings, and are all pretty viable as of the latest patch
6d just doesn't offer anything over any one of the 3 you could pick
personally i've been using the Mg4 and Mg1a lasguns
both benefit from shocktrooper while also having good ammo efficiency

Mmh is health more valuable then the shield?
From what I heard, it is on Ogryn, and I just realized this is Vet chat.
its definitely usable on vet but it depends on who you ask
I prefer HP over toughness
Yeah if I got that on my Vet I'd be marginally less excited.
Especially since Snipers are way less of a problem in that case.
There is any way to farm the weekly quest or nah?
thinking about swapping one to ordo dockets tho
im running out lul
fucking knife
When snipers are a problem, they're a big problem, but I find gunners the most consistently annoying.
ive found less and less value from gunner resist the better i got at the game over time
slide button op
respecting the gunner's killzone op
Does blessing +5-20% Damage Resistance (Gunners) also protect against snipers?
nah, you need Sniper resist
ok thx
I find all the damage resistance against specialists/elites kind of fall off the better you get
where is poxburster resist
gunners only affects heavy gunners and reapers
but the worst is bomber resist
my understanding is it's only resistance against his kick and not his actual bombs
op
Toughness + toughness, toughess regen, stamina regen for vet all the way
i dont like going all in on toughness anymore
lately i've put revive speed on my curios
my toughness never goes down unless i touch fire
and then it drops to 0
so who cares
getting upto 50% revive speed is pretty good
I fked up royally on auric maelstrom yesterday and still at the end of the mission I'd only taken 150 hp damage.
feels like the major threat in auric mael is always just getting toughness negated
not slowly being whittled down
too situational, wish it was all rescue animations and not just revive
yeah i noticed that
regardless it's still pretty clutch at times
or just run revive shout
or run all 4
never shoot
only revive
complain about bad teammates that keep dying after
darktide pacifist run

scream at teammates and do nothing to help them
I like the thought of screaming downed teammates back to action
im really divided on revive shout tbh
He has a sniper hole the size of an orange in his chest. But you shouting at him gets him back up
ive moved away from using it
and i just ate a cooldown increase for no reason
Yeah, I value resists based on which specialists are most likely to fuck me if something goes pear shaped, i.e. gunners mostly.
Shout without revive is just better imo. Bcause you can spam it in every encounter
the times you hold onto your revive could have been spent spamming toughness buffs to your team
i dont hold it
that's the thing
since im used to spamming it w/o revive
ive only tried it with revive recently
since ppl keep saying SO CLUTCH
i was disappointed to learn
it only helps downs
and nothing else
Revive Shout is legit bad
You could just use it and revive them manually anyways
like, doesnt help ppl trapped or ppl that need rescue
after the cooldown buff to VoC, i think it's nice to have, just don't hold onto it at the start of the fight
It is almost a straight downside
Do you like 6-15% Sprint Efficiency 3 x 15 = 45 Sprint Efficiency or do you prefer something else?
i do regularly drop it if i want the talent point tho
What
Show build
i dont bother with sprint efficiency on my curios
Show build
you got Close Order Drill + Aura Size?
stamina regen prefered
Tell that to my deadshot revolver
i like a wee bit of stamina
IRON WILL
sprint eff is funny but same i prefer regen for when it's a real slog
Jee
it's insane
No improved grenades 0/10
Why NOT
iw as runnin ghtat
but i felt like a cheater
Iron Will is meh
You become a literal tank
ogryn carried, but i contributed
it removes corruption chip from poxbursters
I have no idea why grenade tinkerer gives stun immunity
iron will feels pointless
it's really boggling to me
how is iron will meh? You never take dmg
its prob a holdover from old vet tree
It's probably intended for when you are throwing the nades
a literal mistake, i wager soon to be corrected when it gathers enough attention
It gives about 25-33 toughness woop woop
anyway i took off tink just cause i dont want to get used to it if they remove it
A bit more with Shout though I haven't tested that interaction
My understanding with shout though is that ironwill applies to all THP overshield
its good if you find yourself getting toughness worn down
feels like it
I took it off and literally never felt a difference
I use iron will with the up to 33% coherency reduction. All toughness I can have. I never take hp dmg.
its always either im ok because CK is stronk, or i lose everything at once because lmao toe touched fire
anyway
hm. Guess I'm not that good yet
1 hanging point
Doesn't it mean that the faster you run, the less stamina you use?
Because it takes you less time to get there.
sadge
I will have to try if it works for overtoughness
it does work for overtoughness
it doesn't make you faster, it makes you drain slower
But overtoughness is already dumb
its prob a good idea
what weapons this build for anyways
so if you're sprinting into a hostile group, you have more stamina to play with
or just jogging longer in general
knife/iag
maybe ill get field improv 👻
Thanks for explaining, I thought it made you run faster.
no desire for bleed?
so it's pretty good if you love sprinting, but it also means you aren't KILLING 
can synergize with mercy killer
bleed uselesss without mercy killer
i love the chainsword plasma combo, shoot once into the incoming horde, then swap to chainsword, if feel crowd too big swap to plasma again and shoot
im using precog knife
i see
Do it
Mercy Killer bad anyway because bleed bad
it was ok
yeah field improv or revive perk probably worth your salt
but needing to get 1 hit first for it to activate felt bad
bleed is good but bleed knives are a trap
i tried mercy killer/executor/precog
all 3
executor would be better if the punch hitreg was actually not shit
personally my knife i use uncanny strikes + riposte
er
if you cancel too fast your hits dont reg
its not so bad for the knife slashes
but you have to wait so fugging long for punches
not worth
Nuh
what is this for
Bleed is only good on bad things

what bad things
i was showing ppl how punch hitreg is bad and i realized i can make the knife slashes miss too
i like bleed on chainsword for monstrosity
200 DPS on bosses isn't that much
Bloodletter + bleed perk
why not
And it's not even huge
bloodletter will push ragers over breakpoints
It's a like 10-20% damage buff against one type
can 1hko them with a rev attack
And that's good because the other three ragers won't kill you
if they're stunned or occupied, they wont
If you can rev s rager I feel like the kill isn't that big of a deal
what do you do on your chainsword then
Run shout so you can stagger and saw like 2-3 before the others become a problem again
I run shred and bloodletter on mine, it's working pretty well against both hordes and elites
i dont find rampage that worth it because it's already so powerful
Yeah because it's overtuned rn
so i go with savage sweep + bloodletter
Unlike other weapons that need blessings
@sharp ember How does blessing +1-3 Max Stamina work?
How does +3 Stamina affect Stamina?
You get 3 more stamina
3 more bars of stamina
yeah, what they said
im just saying being able to 1hko ragers and unyielding (idk about reapers actually but bulwarks will melt) with a rev attack and being able to get full stacks of bleed on a boss is definitely useful, even if other strategies exist
There's no secret to stamina
+3 sections to your stamina bar
ok thx 🙂
it's pretty handy, but your regeneration rate does not increase with it
I'm not saying it's not useful I'm saying the usefulness is pretty minimal
i dont agree its pretty impactful to the weapons dps
"thou shalt count to three, three is the number thou shalt count to, not two or four"
Always a good time to reference it
why use knife when can use powersword?
i mean ive got a crackhead vet bulid
knife can 2 shot crushers
120% rending + 60% weakspot dmg (agianst bleeding)
How what the hell

Because the flippy-spinny animations of the knife are pure distilled joy.
Man I just tried the combat shovel... this shit is BUSSIN
what are best blessings for it
Ong fr fr fam
Shovel is vibes. Surprised more ppl don't use it tbh
almost there, maybe in 3 days
So any new veteran weapon ideas floating about? Like a hotshot lasgun or melta guns?
Assault shield and automatic pistol or laspistol
I wanna say it’s uncanny strikes and trauma, someone else may know better than me tho
Thrust also seems good
Ideas floating around many
Actually proof of any

having a meltagun implemented will be so funny
There’s datamined stuff
SkullCrusher and Decimator
what is the difference between +power% and +impact%?
Impact is relating to stagger. Power affects damage, stagger, cleave
ahh thanks, thought it might be like tht
TLDR always get power
Well seeing as the scab and dreg gunners use hot shot lasguns and belt fed auto guns. I don’t see why not we could use it
Yo the fucking las pistol
It gets unloacked once we buy all premium cosmetics lol
hey vet chat what ammo roll do you need on an agri combat shotty to get the 13th round?
Laspistol among top 3 las weapons atm
Melk? 
Makes sense
I got a shit roll and its got amazing ammo still and dam
Crits like crazy and weakspot damage is super high
If you have spare buy it and earn the deadly accurate blessing
Yeah the crits are wild
Also very stable hip fire
Never run out ammo on hardest
Fuck stable more like aimbot
If you hipfire chest it almost always headshots somehow
5 months later 
It has very high headshot priority if I remember right
Switch out those grimores!
I know, I’m guessing this will drop with whatever first expansion they do is my personal guess
Oh ye I forgot that exists
Gib Hellgun and I will be happy
I need more las dammit
Las sniper for me
Gotta give Snipers a taste of their own medicine
I hope we get a dual laspistol variant
I wanna go yeehaw pew pew lasers
Melee if you wanna see them as well
Just variants looks like
We had these datamines for months already though
Idk if im insane but that list is kinda ass
Or boring at least
For sure
Different attack patterns UuuUUoOooooGGhh
Supposedly they have plans for it
Any day now
I want Shield and Cleaver
SoonTM
They have been trash since release, Fatshark honeslty I dont believe gives a fuck
I want lightning claws or power fist for ogryn
And left hand for power fist be a choke and throw
Now thats just silly LOL
Also any day now PC players will be compensated 
There’s plenty of servitor ogryn who use those lol
Seeing what we have in game? Doubt
Wait for krieg skin to go out of rotation
Lightning Claws as basic ass melee weapon ...hmmmm
Krieg skin sucks to me so I’m fine with that lol
We're supposed to be compensated?
Yeah I’ll find the post
Imperial Guard General having basic ass melee weapon I see
5 Diamantine - Now be grateful for your compensation.
they didn't let the krieg coat dangle fully so krieg is dead to me
I just want a Maccabian Janissary Death Mask
My favorite part about the Krieg skin for vet is the pants go with alot of different sets for mix and match, you can't mix the helmet or chest without looking like a budget dork
That's coming in anniversary update ide wager
Very few of premium cosmetics can be interchanged without looking out of place
So next year
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Force Great Sword was in Psyker trailer too no? Hahaha
Yea idk why none of the promo-art character cosmetics are available in the game
Webhave been told we may get something in the coming weeks
A month has already passed

Nah probably week of the 30th
100 weeks still count as "weeks"
What sucks is the next rotation is gonna be a redo/suck because if they put out something people want after compensation they won't make money off of it
Someone mentioned a beta poncho in the comments. Hilarious
How tf would a psyker human even hold that
I want my god damn headsets the bots wear
Like no way in hell we get aquillas and they release the scion set
Like every human in our own history that used a greatsword, I suppose
The only force greatsword we know, not a normal force sword, is the nemesis and SM can barely lift it
Look, take it up to the trailer Fatshark released, not me. I'm just stating what most already know lol
We gonna have vet shooting the storm bolt before long
The trailer male zealot had a book on his back
Not available in game I’d assume lol
Book backpack cosmetic hahahahaha
All of this stuff (minus weapons stuff) is in the game and has been edited recently
hellgun when
The trailer Ogryn armor set is literally not in the game (the closest thing is the Mortis set)
When in hell
Now that makes sense
Yea I was expecting that armour with the final achievements, yet I got a very nude Ogryn
Lectitio Divinatus
Yea idk why none of these are available for players to use or even see without mods
I wonder if the mod that randomises Cosmetics allows you to see it
Yea that’s the Ogryn trailer armor lol
Malleus manufactorum
Whas dis?
The emp just stops empowering you instantly
Iirc you have to own the cosmetic for that mod
Book
Mf just makes your relic useless
It’s literally in the game cause the ogryn in the tutorial uses it
Ik, but not available for players to use
I'm betting whatever compensation is there will happen after krieg stuff is gone
They prolly want to put it behind penances
Considering they have a lot to fix for penances... it might take a while
U want smth more messed up?
Heavy swords (zealot) are used by Vostroyan firstborn (a guards regiment) but are not available to Veterans
Dueling swords (Psyker) are used by Death Korp of Krieg (another guards regiment) but are not available to Veterans
Me too, but it also means that they're gonna give us slop for awhile so we spend it on slop (or maybe we don't get currency at all and they want to make people panic buy Krieg stuff)
SEND HELP
dont really care I dont feel the need to instantly spend currency
I’ll wait till something good shows up lol
Yea I did wonder that. Fully expected Vet to get a cool cavalry saber but no, the crazy ones get it
two can play that game
also dont go assuming you'll get aquillas
I think this stuff is gonna be premium and not penance.
I assume we won't
@fast scaffold is there Kasrkin Helm with Visor?
you can actually equip these in game with the mod?
The mod can only be used outside of game/solo games as far as I know, they're also not my screenshots
I originally think these were gonna release with the new classes for their penances but then got scrapped
Unknown
Give it a homie kiss and lullaby it back to sleep
I think the cyber eye stuff is premium and the ones the bots wear will be penance based
Considering what happened to the old penances, I believe you
it gave me a kiss
and then the zealot
Oh no, daemon cooties
My guess is we are gonna get 2 of the following for the anniversary and in a perfect world all of it
- 6-12 weapon patterns
- 2-6 maps
- Penances for each class
I just hope the promo art cosmetics won’t be in paid shop
My theory is that I woke it up from either suppression or a penetrating bullet
I just want the vet character creator headset they wear 😔
I’m pretty sure none of the promo art cosmetics are even available to players rn
They're not, but I think the gasmask vet is the infiltration vet cosmetics if I had to guess
They’ll prob expand penances around new skill trees when they get to it
“Provide 10000 toughness to your teammates with VoC”
Smth like that
Yeah that's the most likely course
This is all I want 😭
3rd time this week ive had quad vet
Based smoke grenade user
I want the set on the right tbh
I literally got into the game because I thought that set looked cool
Feel that
There’s a bot in the game also called Nzoni lol
Do you want to take Sunder/Brutal Momentum on powerswords nowadays over Slaughterer?
Rampage, slaughter, bromomentum are all top choices
Sunder is good if you have nothing else tho
do female psykers look better than male
Awesome thanks
Slaught is still fine i use it in aurics
Nice nice
No problem. Also the rending one is good too but I can’t remember the name of the blessing
I just have a VI where I changed both blessings on it to PC and Slaughterer so I have room to change it to something else
Honestly after playing psyker, with certain gear sets you can barely tell until they start talking

