veteran-class

[valid apex]

Yea so far it’s 2 for 2

[candid tundra]

yeah so the melk one is better

[sharp ember]

I do not recommend magdumping bolter outside of a true emergency

[grim thunder]

Do you really need cavalcade+ surgical?

[valid apex]

Wait for real? The crits seem nutty

[sharp ember]

Surgical is more efficient for critting

and doesn't demand you full auto your whole mag

[grim thunder]

That seems overkill, considering you get crit from skills too

[candid tundra]

so you think I should just buy the one from melk rather than keep upgrading the blue one I just sent?

sorry I'm asking so much lol

[sharp ember]

bolt rounds are precious in this economy

[sharp ember]

the blue is 1/2 right now, you're operating on a gamble, go for it if you have mats to spare

[grim thunder]

I love how ammo efficient the revolver gets with survivalist if you focus on the right targets

probably my fav weapon

[valid apex]

Revolver is busted. Dats why. Ha

[candid tundra]

I don't got mats to spare but I can grind for some

[grim thunder]

Wish it had a better sight tho

[polar kraken]

just found out that the headhunter blessing on recons isn’t compatible with the ones on hh….

and i wasted my melk money on that shit

[candid tundra]

ok I got reload speed

if that's good, I'll play 1 mission and take it to gold cause I think I'll have enough plasteel afterwards

[junior needle]

Nope, blessings are all restricted to their respective lines.

[polar kraken]

[junior needle]

Situations like that are why I try to tell people to be careful with their melkbux

[polar kraken]

I need a refund

[tall torrent]

I’m gonna upgrade uncanny strike once I get higher levels of it but outside of that, what should I change

[sharp ember]

good on bolter, but personally not what i want, especially when breakpoints are in question

[terse idol]

Welp, best I can say is hold on to it, and maybe it'll get buffed later

[sharp ember]

gotta go do stuff for now

[terse idol]

🥹

[candid tundra]

you think I should not take it to gold then?

[candid tundra]

ok sorry, take care

[sharp ember]

i think it's melk time

Pinning Fire isn't what it used to be, but it's still helpful

on the melk gun

[grim thunder]

I should get a new shovel, it seems fun

[river quail]

trying out some stealth gameplay

what weapon combo do the stealth enjoyers run?

[terse idol]

For a stealth vet, revolver

[grim thunder]

I’ve seen autopistol and dagger as well

[terse idol]

And a devil claw

[candid tundra]

ok, thanks

[terse idol]

Forgot which one...

[grim thunder]

Though I prefer a revolver

[river quail]

i wanted to try the new autogun buff

[junior needle]

I used my old autopistol and it felt like shit after the nerfs

[river quail]

i think the kantrael shotty could work really well too

with no respite and deathspitter

[grim thunder]

Is it that bad now?

[junior needle]

Can't recommend the kantrael shotgun personally, and not with those blessings.

[terse idol]

Shotty takes too much from melee damage for a stealth build but that's imo

For me you gotta cover your base for stealth

[junior needle]

You might want the agri with those but it's totally obsolete compared to the revolver

[terse idol]

Which is lobg range weakness

[river quail]

yeah the revolver is crazy good

[junior needle]

Lawbringer with flechette/scatter seems to be the new best

Also deadshot

[river quail]

i'll give it a shot

but why not no respite?

you stagger 100% of the time with it

[grim thunder]

I like the slug shotgun

[river quail]

so you're always getting the damage buff

[junior needle]

The kantrael shotgun is all about the burn special

[grim thunder]

But I wish they buffed it

[junior needle]

And even if you build for the burn and bleed, like I did, it felt like shit and tickled things

[valid apex]

Kant with flechette and scattershot. Thank me later

[torn moat]

How do I fix this?

[junior needle]

took multiple slugs just to stack the dots to watch them slowly tick to death

[river quail]

switch specialist damage to flak armor damage

and swap headhunter for a higher tier headhunter, or surgical

[grim thunder]

Btw epic bio

Risk of rain

[valid apex]

I think that kant dotshot build would be really good with covering fire (literally) and agile combat.

[junior needle]

Like, you can set some things on fire but

[torn moat]

Keep Opening Salvo? I thought it would be better go for HH + that weak point crit damage perk.

[junior needle]

priority targets are not going down easily with that shotgun

[torn moat]

Not perk... blessing

[junior needle]

And it doesn't penetrate that many lesser enemies

[valid apex]

It’s basically just infinite cleave with the special.

Range whatever

[sharp ember]

I tried this, it just isn't for me but it definitely works

[bright ocean]

Is this worth grabbing for Gets hot! 4?

[sharp ember]

I prefer my enemies dropping dead immediately

[torn moat]

How critical is it to get flak damage over specialist?

[sharp ember]

alright turns out I don't have to go anywhere

[valid apex]

It’s worth getting to use till you roll a perfect plasma. Imo

[valid apex]

I agree. I think it gives melee vet a lot of value.

[river quail]

most specialists/elites are either flak armored or maniac

[valid apex]

2-3 slugs into different directions/hordes and then work on priority targets with melee or nades.

[river quail]

so getting +elite damage or +specialist damage is usually a net loss

not that either are bad, they just could be way better

8% vs 20-25%

[valid apex]

I just don’t know why fat shark nerfed bleeds but left the revolver untouched.

Stuff like that seems so off to me.

[torn moat]

Yeah, but I am tempted to trade out No Respite 4 for Deadly Accurate 4 instead.

[valid apex]

Pinning+cavalcade?

[river quail]

it's up to preference, i like surgical on headhunter autogun especially after the buffs

[torn moat]

Either I trade No Respite for Deadly Accurate. Or I trade Spiecialist Damage for Flalk Damage.

Flak*

[hollow turtle]

You know... I know we ask that FS implement paint and camo stuff often, but sometimes I accidentally create stuff like this and realize maybe it's a good thing we can't or else we'd start seeing Fortnite/R6 player themed public lobbies.

[torn moat]

For that matter, what's optimal build for Vraks HH? Shout or Volley Fire?

[wraith locust]

wwhat are you prioccing with naded?

[umbral scaffold]

this bricked?

same with this

[junior needle]

These kill times really get me, even scab bruisers took multiple shots to burn down

My testing setup is in this one

[unique oracle]

Hey, is there any body who needs or wants to do on overwatch penance ?

message me

[umbral scaffold]

what penance is that

I just got rank 4 power cycler off a blue sword

[delicate moat]

[umbral scaffold]

id still like to know if my hellbores are bricked

[junior needle]

dlss, set to quality. So I can get mostly close to my monitors refresh rate (240) but still not quite there.

Looks like I did underestimate the penetration of the burn though

[dreamy lantern]

ye has like

infinite cleave

[trim steppe]

The burn is infinite cleave

[junior needle]

Just doesn't do dick damage without multiple applications to the same targets

[umbral scaffold]

its for hordes is it not

[trim steppe]

If you fire it 2-3 times down a cooridor it will kill a lot of things, including any bulwarks. It penetrates their sheilds too

[muted tangle]

Bloody hell 2nd Heresy game in a row with sub level 30 party. Every time they're dead weight that need to be hard carried too. So bloody frustrating

the kind of players that think that they need to kill every single enemy and especially those 50m behind us

[junior needle]

Me when enemies aren't in a corridor (many such cases)

Also in a straight line

[trim steppe]

Heresy is a skill deadzone. Just jump up to damnation, better players and if you're not that good yet you'll learn fast from more skilled players

[junior needle]

Just wait until you get to hi5 stg and you get 2 28's

[trim steppe]

the burn has pretty decent width, two shots will kill most of a horde

[muted tangle]

feels like newbies do 4/5 out of ignorance or hoping others carry them so most decent players just drop to Malice where it's not as sweaty with such lobbies

I would play 5/5 but never with randoms

I really do like 4/5 but I don't like hard carrying some peeps that need 30 pings to know where to go

[junior needle]

I was not impressed.

[trim steppe]

My experience is that heresy is harder than damnation in random lobbies. Good players will be in damnation so usually heresy is a cluster

[muted tangle]

if I'm to clutch and solo I'd much rather do it as Ogryn than Veteran

Solo play maybe but Ogryn has much easier job clutching and reviving party members

[velvet wraith]

casually dropping 540k in regular damnation bolt gun + ps VI

[trim steppe]

My order is exactly in reverse of yours since patch 13 lol

[elder vessel]

Level 15 Psyker

[velvet wraith]

gotta carry sometimes (all the time)

[muted tangle]

My heavy stubber Ogryn with slab shield manages perfectly fine

[junior needle]

2 shots one after another will kill bruisers, but if the stacks drop at all then the damage goes lower and you can need 3-4 shots

[trim steppe]

I dunno, kickback ogryn is pretty strong right now

[minor iron]

brunt's got this in his offerings. worth buying or is the stopping power just too low?

[muted tangle]

fair

[junior needle]

(He cheeses it by corner camping )

[neat cipher]

Is a slaughterer IV blessing any good? I'm new to the game. Trying to figure out if I should buy a purple axe that has it on Melk's Requisitorium. I got 6k of the weekly coin.

[trim steppe]

How does one even solo? Mods?

[junior needle]

True servants of the emperor die out in the open, getting shot from all directions

[trim steppe]

Oh look at mr fancy pants who has friends

[junior needle]

Quite good, but blessings are limited to the line the blessing is pulled from. So if it's a chainaxe (which is widely regarded as a bad-mediocre weapon) you won't be able to get it on your power sword.

[umbral scaffold]

do female psykers look better than male

[neat cipher]

I had no idea. Good to know! Thanks!

[junior needle]

I try to warn the new players about the many poorly communicated mechanics

[trim steppe]

I'd buy it, slaughterer is pretty much always a strong pick for blessings. if the weapon isnt one you want to use right now, you might want to later and you'll have it

[junior needle]

If he's new he won't have many melkbux

[sharp epoch]

i blame tiny angry crab for the devil claw buff

[valid apex]

The kickback is absolutely dumb atm

[neat cipher]

Yeah, I got 6k right now

[elder vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/army-of-darkness-evil-dead-ash-groovy-gif-25791428

mind you this is the second plasma ive consecrated

hadron has been good to me lately

[junior needle]

Just you wait for it

[sharp epoch]

even without 😂

leostricus > azgryn??

[junior needle]

It's still good without, but you need to be careful with that ammo usage without the aura.

At least in challenge content

[tall torrent]

How would u change this shovel

Uncanny strike upgrade obv

[elder vessel]

all i need to do is throw on unyielding and Gets Hot T4 (which i have from my last plasma)

[sharp epoch]

just do both

dam how do u go down 11 times 😭

[junior grail]

So looking at latest vox message, I wonder how many are still hoping for Genestealers and Wyrmwood being alive haha

Did Leo have a lot of wounds? Haha

I dont understand why some love Hab Dreyko so much, its my least favourite map

How so? I wouldnt know as i avoided that map haha

Ahhh

[delicate estuary]

is chainsword the best clutching weapon for vet

having difficulty clutching with either mk4 or powersword

mk4 0 carapace damage and powersword almost no mobility

[junior grail]

Ngl i do appreciate the final escape sequence of Hab Dreyko though

That part is fun, wish it was longer

[delicate estuary]

300 a hit I wouldnt classify as good

[elder vessel]

I like the end segment of the Cryonic rods mission

Free spew of chaff to mow for funsies

[junior grail]

Like fish in a barrel

Imagine if they replace the mob with a boss like in Consignment Yard

[elder vessel]

One time, I had my ripper gun, and 2 teammates flamers ROASTING that spawn point

how much more dead could you get

[junior grail]

Better than the other cleavers at least

Of the skip?

[delicate moat]

you still can skip the final part apparently

the rest of us were still scanning when bro was already in

[junior grail]

Show me da wae

[delicate moat]

i dont know, the random pub teammate did it

[junior grail]

Devil Claw parry still surprises me once in a while with its damage

[delicate moat]

i was like why is bro so far away

[junior grail]

Bro no care about heresy

Oh yea mk 7 devil claw surprisingly good vs armour

[hollow ibex]

maybe i should give it another try 🤔

always did like dclaw

[delicate moat]

i wish there was a mk7 tutorial

[acoustic wyvern]

IT APPEARED

[delicate moat]

im still trying to get better at it

[elder vessel]

BLESSED BE

[acoustic wyvern]

i need to clear my weekly

[hollow ibex]

what perks and blessings? 🤔

[elder vessel]

QUICKLY BROTHER, FARM MELXBUX

BRING THAT SHIT TO HADRONS HOLY TECHUSSY IMMEDIATELY

[acoustic wyvern]

[junior grail]

Be a good lil varletchamp

[hollow ibex]

oof

interesting

ngl thinking about going back to devil's claw because of the insane amount of rager spam

do you know what the ideal blessings are for dclaw?

hate axes, and not going to be rolling for power cycler because i value my sanity

[junior grail]

Savage Sweep + Shred usually

[hollow ibex]

thanks

really wished there was just a guide that covered this sort info

seems to be one for psyker and ogryn, but not for zealot/vet

[junior grail]

If you want Power Sword without Power Cycler, you can go Slaughterer and Brutal Momentum

Rampage be bugged atm

Up to preference

I use Shred for more single target damage

^In mobs

[lavish hamlet]

crazy how vet and zealot are like the most played class, but ogryn and psyker are the classes with crazy in depth class guides

[hollow ibex]

lol yeah

[lavish hamlet]

yea, when Im to lazy to test which is like 90% of the time I do flak maniac

[rigid rampart]

What's good perks for the revolver guys

[lavish hamlet]

hand cannon and surgical

[trim pivot]

Is this on a melee vet build?

[ruby totem]

How do you build a recon las?

My first run on this patch went pretty smooth but I feel like I'm missing a lot

Looking to rebuild this one

I think it's an A+ roll personally

[river quail]

do stealth enjoyers prefer krak or smoke grenade

i've seen some crazy clutch with smoke nades

[ruby totem]

I like krak just because when I run Infiltrate I'm usually using a lighter gun

But smoke is fun. I usually run it if I have something that can punch through crushers reliably

[minor iron]

got this as a drop from le emporer, good enough to take to gold to see what i get? this is the stat distrubution you want right?

[river quail]

forcing gunners to move on t5 is huge though

[ruby totem]

It's ok on T5, usually if you have a light enough gun you can infiltrate behind any group of gunners and lay waste

This thing RUINS gunner squads

love it

one of my fav guns that I've rolled up

I run it on my main infiltrate build

Also pokes holes in crushers pretty well once you're out of stealth

So I take frags instead

The gun MELTS Beasts of Nurgle, at least more than you'd expect

[delicate estuary]

which model

[minor iron]

also i should ask which catachan sword is technically the best? i know mk4 is the one everyone likes, but mk1's sweeping heavies is just so nice for horde clear. i have never used the other mk sword

[delicate estuary]

mk4 has similar horde clear

just light into heavy

guess have to try parries more often then

[ruby totem]

I just used a shovel a couple missions ago. Damn they really bumped the horde clear on that thing

[delicate moat]

mk7 insane

[delicate estuary]

didnt know you can just parry an overhead

lol

yea that explains things

[ruby totem]

Do parries have a cooldown? I swore I was right in the middle of one and a crusher just told me to fuck off

[delicate estuary]

can you DM me the stuff you have on your MK4

yes

can you direct where the aprry goes?

as in can you aim into the head

kk

[white minnow]

it usually amounts to moving your camera to the top right to ensure that it hits the head

[ruby totem]

Yea, crosshair is deceiving in melee

[delicate estuary]

wait waht is the timing on the overhead

just got one shot by a mauler 💀

[lavish oar]

can anyone show me a good Graia MK IV Braced autogun roll?

[delicate estuary]

I see

its ok pubs deserve a bit of pain from my end

💀

[sharp ember]

all you want is Flak + Maniac, Fire Frenzy + Deathspitter
Stat Priority: Damage > Ammo >> Stability = Mobility > Collateral

stagger on graia brauto is pretty not great

so you can basically sacrifice it if it keeps the other bars higher

having 80% collateral slightly makes it easier to stagger flamers/trappers, but they'd be almost dead at that point

[acoustic wyvern]

reload cause i like reload speed on fast weapons

[lavish oar]

thanks boss

[acoustic wyvern]

wait you said graia braced

[plush kernel]

what the

is recon las good on psyker or something

why did i just see one

[sharp ember]

if staggering elites is a consistent issue, I recommend trying the agri brauto which knocks dudes down with its bullets

still love graia though

bullethose

funny to run rending with

[lavish oar]

awesome, thanks

[lavish oar]

i already run the agri

[woven field]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946196934425731173/1170558847576977528/image.png?ex=65597ae1&is=654705e1&hm=5f1365fdb1e862cc850fe895d07b9150f08f068ea64cbcc05a5d45a555336eb9&

Think the emperor is trying to tell me I'm living the Krieg shovel meme too much

[hollow turtle]

I often forget that Krieg are not actually grey, but rather a dull blue like french uniforms of WWI.

[ember folio]

angry peanut

[hearty panther]

True Shot and Emphatic Evasion are super easy to build and proc. It's basically Ghost.

[stray storm]

Yah or meh?

[lavish hamlet]

meh tbh

[acoustic wyvern]

getting that rampage would be nice tho

[lavish hamlet]

id wait for a rampage 4

not spend milkman money on a 3

[hearty panther]

Tha Agri up there looks possibly neat

[iron marten]

what james said, save melk coins for t4 blessings

[surreal crown]

Are we still doing this? My crosshairs go way off my guns and I hate it

[sand oracle]

Should I put carapace on block efficiency, or flak?

[surreal crown]

Like, the FOV mod is messing with my FOV and things are way too zoomed in when I ult

[sand oracle]

Because I like the idea of doubling down on the defensive aspect but I'm not sold.

[surreal crown]

And the crosshairs never align up with the iron sights

[bitter turtle]

never replace flak

[empty creek]

@sand oracle nice PFP

[sand oracle]

Thanks, I made it with 5 minutes and Microsoft paint lmfao

[empty creek]

good shit

[shell widget]

I understand the reference

[elder vessel]

Block Efficiency

[sand oracle]

Any particular reason for that? I'm not seeing a whole lot of reason to keep either because the flak breakpoint seems negligible with slaught 4, and the block efficiency seems to only be helpful on chaos spawn

[elder vessel]

Flak covers like 40% of all elites and specials in the game

Maniac does the same, which is why its such a common combo

Block Efficiency

Just helps you block

Which you could already do

[sand oracle]

Block eff. is very good for the design of the sword in correlation to how it works against bosses and ogryn sized enemies.

You do a lot of blocking with Mun. 6

[old quail]

i mean honestly the mk6 is one of those weapons u dont really need flak on

[old quail]

like maulers you're aiming at the head, bombers aren't an issue, and that mostly leaves ragers since you can hit one-shot BPs on the trash mobs/shooters

[astral blade]

Had to fight both a daemon host and a plague ogryn

[sand oracle]

That's what I'm saying. It's like.... One thing is known to suck, but kinda works on the weapon - while the other is known to be BiS, but kinda sucks on the weapon.

So IDK how to build it.

[elder vessel]

Dawg power sword interacts with ogryns like
You turn it on
They die in 1-2 hits

[astral blade]

At the same time

[minor iron]

whats the dumpstat on heavy laspistol? mobility?

[ruby totem]

I'VE HAD A FUCKING YELLOW DOT ON COSMETICS SINCE LAUNCH

I'M FINALLY FREEEEEEEE

[elder vessel]

Liberation

[astral blade]

Because some moron decided to wake up the daemon host

[old quail]

the mk6 is one of the only weapons where u can make a solid argument for blocking because you can get caught in bad situations where you dont have the time to activate and stagger stuff before a rager (or two or three etc) start beating you up

(and the dodges on psword are so bad)

[ruby totem]

I guess this patch finally made it so that the Beta Tester emblem actually displayed and thus removed the dot when hovered over

[sand oracle]

Mobility, stability, and ammo are all relatively low prio. I would say Mobility < Stability < Ammo personally. The best roll would be 80 Damage, 70 Mobility, 70 Stability, 80 ammo, 80 Stopping power

Because the last few points of mobility and stability don't really do much

[minor iron]

excellent, thank you. brunt just offered me one thats near perfect except tier 1 ghost

[sand oracle]

TBF ghost is a very good pick for the gun.

IDK if it's best, but very solid for picking off shooters and gunners. Tier 1 is workable.

[ruby totem]

I feel like generally the mobillity of the las pistol is one of its main draws so I agree

Otherwise you could just take an MGIV

[velvet wraith]

goddamn I found my dream build

[sand oracle]

A 60% mobility laspistol can outrun hordes with stamina. A 70% mobility laspistol can outrun them without stamina.

[ruby totem]

It's fun af

[sand oracle]

Which is why I say 70% 70% instead of full 80% 60%

[ruby totem]

wtf I can't find my laspistol

oh because I'm blind lol

this is mine

[minor iron]

im getting into both the heavy las and shredder pistol now which is why im asking, i assume its much the same on the shredder except i probably want to prio ammo instead of dumping it

[sand oracle]

This is the one I'm working with now and it's never done me wrong yet.

Though it's not quite perfect.

[ruby totem]

I only have speedload on there because all my other perks for the pistol are shit

[sand oracle]

Something like this or better will be great for ya

[feral stratus]

This is tough

[sand oracle]

Interesting blessing picks... No Infernus, DumDum, or Ghost?

[ruby totem]

Like I said, I don't really have any perks for it lol

[sand oracle]

That's fair.

[ruby totem]

I've only ever earned the blessings on 1 or 2

[sand oracle]

Infernus really increases the DPS of the gun, and makes the Laspistol a shooter killer to a boss dueling weapon

HIGHLY recommend infernus.

[reef cedar]

quick question: what is the dump stat for braced autos?

[sand oracle]

Ghost for shooters, or dumdum for specials after.

[spare wolf]

Which one

[reef cedar]

agripinaa

[ruby totem]

They're all pretty good. I'd say maybe stopping power?

[spare wolf]

Mobility

[reef cedar]

damnit

k thanks!

[ruby totem]

But that's armor pen so if you don't need mobility then that

[junior grail]

Stopping Power is pivotal to Agri Brauto

[ruby totem]

This is mine

[hollow turtle]

I've just met the most pro fucking sniper ever. Shot me midair while I was in low profile. Wtf.

[ruby totem]

It still punches holes pretty well

[sand oracle]

^ Stopping power is basically a second damage stat, to flak, maniac, and unyielding.

[feral stratus]

Do i keep the first one and sell the second one or get one of the blessings from the first one and modify the second?

[sand oracle]

So it's crucial to have it high

[spare wolf]

Yeah you need a good stopping power om agri brauto

Other 2 brauto tho

Doesn't even have stopping power

[ruby totem]

It's def nice to have, but I use it as a shooter clearer personally

And still puts down crushers well

[reef cedar]

nice! Here is mine:

[ruby totem]

Very nice!

[spare wolf]

Brauto isn't that good for shooter clearing

[ruby totem]

It is when I use it 😎

[spare wolf]

🤷‍♂️

[sand oracle]

Brauto is mostly for specials and elites clumped into groups.

Mixed horde clear.

[ruby totem]

I don't horde clear with it

I like using infiltrate or just straight up sprinting into gunfire lol

[sand oracle]

The high damage per bullet, and dps makes it kind of strong for those moments where there's like 9 + maulers or ragers in a roomer.

room*

[ruby totem]

Makes the power fantasy part of my brain go zoom

Honestly probably my second best build

[acoustic wyvern]

it does what the columnus fail to

[ruby totem]

Columnus is better in one way

[acoustic wyvern]

clear flak ragers and that carapace guy

[ruby totem]

It uses more ammo

sure, it doesn't do anything with the ammo

but it's better at eating it!

[acoustic wyvern]

i've been running columnus and agri non stop on auric runs and yea.....agri still king

[shell widget]

sooo what are las pistols good for then?

[ruby totem]

Sometimes with the Columnus I feel like I'd be better off throwing the bullets

[acoustic wyvern]

right?

https://tenor.com/view/hot-shots2throwing-bullets-epic-military-throwing-bllets-bad-ass-gif-18997556

if only it was like this

[plush kernel]

i just watched two people voluntarily jump to their deaths after an assassination mission

[sleek cairn]

why

[ruby totem]

Just doesn't feel like it does damage lol

[acoustic wyvern]

theres not enough oomph

[real mantle]

"Braced" has no stock. Aka, shoulder brace

[sleek cairn]

hm it could be lack of pierce

[ruby totem]

I find they're good for kiting and picking off targets at mid range

[sleek cairn]

in that case what of the Agri IAG? it has cleave

[ruby totem]

They're also just fun!

Close range is obviously good

[sleek cairn]

cuz atleast with Agri IAG u can choose to help with snipers

brauto is a bit tougher

[acoustic wyvern]

the agri series has that oomph

[ruby totem]

I swear every time someone says brauto I think they're talking about Boruto from the anime

[sleek cairn]

u may continue to think that

[ruby totem]

lmao

[sleek cairn]

it is fine in my eyes

[acoustic wyvern]

this is agri iag breakdown

[ruby totem]

https://tenor.com/view/kookie-naruto-run-gif-7251770

[sleek cairn]

with cleave dont forget

the only IAG with strong cleave

[acoustic wyvern]

look at that weakspot and critical

[ruby totem]

me running into battle with my brauto

[sleek cairn]

i forgot brauto's chart, whats the comparison

[torn moat]

Brauto has a terrible weakspot and crit multiplier. But higher base damage.

[acoustic wyvern]

Graia

[torn moat]

IAG's have a higher damage output if you can crit or if you can hit weakspots (or both).

[ruby totem]

Yo what's wrong with your brauto's stats (don't look at the background)

[sleek cairn]

Deadshot columnus go!!

[shell widget]

how well does it even pick off targets? felt like it was tickling flamers

[torn moat]

Basically, if you want to spray into hordes without aiming. Brauto is better.

But if you ADS and can consistently hit heads. IAG's will outperform Brauto's without contest.

[acoustic wyvern]

buuuuut you still gotta take into account the rof

[ruby totem]

You need to get headshots with flamers and hope for crits

If I'm using a pistol though I'll generally melee flamers and such

For instance I'd carry a chainsword or devils claw with me to one shot em

and for horde clear

[torn moat]

Also, worth calling out, IAG's can get Dumdum blessing. Brauto's can't.

[acoustic wyvern]

dumdum is so good thats right

[sleek cairn]

wut u guys blessing ur boruto's with?

deathspitter.

[torn moat]

IAG's will outperform Brauto's if you aim at weakspots and/or have a crit build.

But, if you aren't good at hitting heads, or aren't building for crits. You just want to hold down W and fire. Brauto's will carry you well enough.

[hearty panther]

Stripped Down alnost always when available for me

[torn moat]

Killing Frenzy and Deathspitter on Brauto's for a glass cannon build.

[unreal bone]

Almost perfect right?

[sleek cairn]

and for comfy?

[valid apex]

Charge and ammo are low.

[unreal bone]

Cause higher Charge Rate hurts your damage..

[sleek cairn]

i dont wanna feel like im trying to battle my own gun if it gets me killed lol

[unreal bone]

Apparently plasma gun damage is tied to Charge Rate in the code. (Not specified in inspect screen)

There's a bunch of vids on it.

[acoustic wyvern]

you'll love the agri iag tinny

[unreal bone]

High Charge Rate = Less damage

[ruby totem]

It's not optimal obviously, but Stripped Down and Terrifying Barrage

[acoustic wyvern]

its legit THE gun for control and dmg

[golden axle]

i thought that was agri brauto

[unreal bone]

so yeah lower charge rate is better 😦

[sleek cairn]

i mean i do try agi iag, i just usually go back to revolver/plasma/bolter to tell things to fk off.

[torn moat]

Agri IAG has the easiest to handle recoil. Especially if you burst fire it. I think they called out in the patch how the first 3 shots of a burst have noticably less recoil than every shot after.

[acoustic wyvern]

agri brauto is King for medium and close

you can effectively run stamina curios and deadshot while still running the mid tree

[torn moat]

Columnus on the other hand... The thing kicks like a mule.

[unreal bone]

Does Blaze Away even work on Plasma guns..?

Went to hadron this si what I got so far

[golden axle]

indeed it does 😄

[unreal bone]

This is what I got so far @golden axle

[sleek cairn]

blaze it. do it

[torn moat]

No point in using Deadshot on an agri brauto... The crit damage multiplier isn't worth it.

[ruby totem]

Blaze Away only goes to 3, right?

[torn moat]

Better to invest in the Rend trees.

[acoustic wyvern]

i think its a sorta preference of mine tho

[torn moat]

If you enjoy it, that's all that matters.

[acoustic wyvern]

like if i think it works better i'll do better placebo thing

[golden axle]

not bad, not bad, ofc replace groaners/pox with maniac and we'll see what you get as the blessing

gets hot is a good choice

avoid Volatile

[acoustic wyvern]

• i wanna get that twin range dmg bonus

bahaha

[sleek cairn]

do u guys all melee ur crushers

[torn moat]

I'd probably go for the talent on the right side tree that gives me more rending per consecutive hits.

[acoustic wyvern]

NO i shoot it in the head and let the impact fuck with the crushers

[golden axle]

i have an unhealthy addiction to the MK6 PS push attack -> L4 for crushers

[dusky flare]

It's not linear, higher charge rate above 70ish hurts. 53 is way too low.

[unreal bone]

which one is gets hot?

UN Delivering hot plasma.

[acoustic wyvern]

i didnt know Mr Freeze was in darktide

[ruby totem]

Meleeing crushers is viable

I don't really do it

[golden axle]

crit chance based on thermal

[unreal bone]

Ah yes

[golden axle]

up to 50% iirc

[ruby totem]

but whenever I use a combat knife it always seems to do it

[unreal bone]

Yeah but I'd rather have too lower rather than too high.

[signal dock]

sire melk be like "Today i will sell you splattery poo poo shit"

[unreal bone]

One just has lower charge speed the other directly lowers your damage.

I'll take the lower charge speed over lowering my plasma gun damage.

[unreal bone]

Isn't Volatile the charge speed based on heat?

[dusky flare]

lower charge speed does harm your dps and accuracy

[unreal bone]

Whoever coded the plasma gun at Fatshark is a fucking idiot.

[signal dock]

whats better (on bolter)
pinning fire or shattering impact

[golden axle]

yes it hurts dps currently with how its coded

[golden axle]

yes.

[ruby totem]

It used to be worse! It used to have a random chance to shoot like 20 degrees higher than your crosshair!

[signal dock]

https://tenor.com/view/shakewell-pemex-peaking-shake-gif-20862942

[golden axle]

are you stuck with one or the other i assume?

[signal dock]

yea im using surgical as my second blessing

because i aim a lot

[golden axle]

what version of shattering

[signal dock]

III

[golden axle]

id take shattering

[signal dock]

all is 3

ok

what perks would you throw on your bolter

i usually do 25 flak and 25 carapace (or unyielding)

[golden axle]

maniac/unyielding personally

i found little need for carapace when i take shattering

[signal dock]

just curious but why maniac

[golden axle]

hits good breakpoints for specials

[signal dock]

i really hate this thing where you can only change 2 things on any piece of equipment

[quick burrow]

90% of the time maniac flak is really good combo 5% of the time %crit chance then other 5% unyielding

[golden axle]

oh yes, its garbage.

[signal dock]

its just such a dumb fuckin thing

[quick burrow]

depending on weapons

[signal dock]

like its so arbitrary

so pointless

[unreal bone]

So what is the optimal charge rate for a plasma gun.

[signal dock]

like why two

[golden axle]

Marketing ploy to aid in "player retention"

[unreal bone]

If you go low charge rate you lose damage

high charge rate you lose damage

[quick burrow]

haha just be happy it lets you pick which 2

[ruby totem]

You lose DPS

[signal dock]

its such a dumb fucken thing

[signal dock]

no

[quick burrow]

back in my day u could only pick 1 perk and 1 blessing

and u couldnt select what u got u had to roll for it

[signal dock]

i am and will be disappointed

[unreal bone]

No I'm asking which charge rate makes you lose no dps.

[quick burrow]

even if it was free u still had to click

[signal dock]

yea i played then too and i stopped playing back then

[golden axle]

back in my day we couldnt change shit

[delicate estuary]

Any tips on how to play exe stance vet in pubs. Feels extremely hard to find the space to actually do what you are supposed to (which is still a questionmark to me)

[quick burrow]

thank god i took the auto roller mod my highest roll was like 1300 rolls for a 25% flak

[signal dock]

i only started playing when they fixed the classes/added talents and shit

[quick burrow]

was insane

[golden axle]

whats the problem you are having

[signal dock]

how does that work

[quick burrow]

back when u couldnt select your perk the auto roller mod would allow you to select what u wanted your perk to roll to then just automatically roll it for you while u had a smoke or something

[signal dock]

does it just keep spending money until you get the rolled thing or something

[quick burrow]

otherwise u would have to click 3 times every roll

it eventually would become free

so cost didnt really matter

[signal dock]

hang on

FREE

[delicate estuary]

well main issue is not being able to carry as hard as I would with shout or inflitrate xd since exe stance is all about getting those resets so just been finding hard to use at times when I am left alone with a horde to deal with or whatever

[signal dock]

whats the rolling thing

[quick burrow]

ya u would spend money for the first few rolls then it would scale down eventually free

its old now u can select the perk u want but before you had to gamble on the reroll

[signal dock]

ohhhhh

now i understand ya

[quick burrow]

so to get rid of having to click your mouse literally 3k times someone mad an auto roller mod

[radiant adder]

Anyone got a decent infernus recon las build? I just got t4 infernus finally.

[quick burrow]

remove the word decent and you got yourself a question

[golden axle]

Well shout vet is currently the carry vet im sorry to say in this case. However, how ive seen Exe stance played and played it myself is youre basically just playing support/filler until you run into that random scab horde in an open room and then you can get the team through it in a breeze. Edit: You're also very essential to the gunner spam the director has been putting out so until that gets adjusted.

[signal dock]

time to buy ten thousand power swords until i get Power Cycler

[quick burrow]

u can get an auto armory mod 2 i advise you to get it

[signal dock]

i think ill donate the extra bajillion power swords to chapter master Kid Touchorius of the Order of the Orphanslayers chapter

[quick burrow]

u can select the item power u keep then it auto sells the lower ones

[signal dock]

those guys need more power swords

im certain chapter master Kid Touchourious will not fall to chaos

[quick burrow]

tedious otherwise to keep buying then selling

[signal dock]

i might as well

i already have the customization one

[delicate estuary]

Yea not sure how I am useful at times. When I have competent teammates I am just a bot cause they kill everything before I even get there 💀 but when I get pubns who are unaware its kinda impossible to carry them if we get a couple of people downed. Just confused if I am doing anything wrong xd

[signal dock]

is that one on nexus

[limber spoke]

What the hell do I even do with this. Do I just go surgical/onslaught, or grab a +flak instead?

[signal dock]

'buy until rating'?

[golden axle]

Nah, Patch 13/14 are just not exec stance veterans playground really.

[quick burrow]

yes

[signal dock]

you could chop it up into tiny pieces and use it as seasoning for your next meal

[golden axle]

This is a VoC vet/Psyker/berseker Ogryn world.

[signal dock]

duuuude like i main ogryn and i just find so little reason to not play my orgyn

[limber spoke]

[signal dock]

it just does my veterans job but better

[golden axle]

ogryn is insane rn

[quick burrow]

u stand in the way of my las pistol

thats why

u dont play ogryn

[signal dock]

ogryn has

• absolutely hilariously op horde clear + planetwide spammable stunlock (if you get the right weapon)
• gorgo stubber automatic sniper rifle
• very good health and toughness (even without the right curios)

[shell widget]

had an epiphany today in the first hour of playing vet, got my first game with a big man. 4 minutes in of him eating all my shots and it hits me

[signal dock]

my veteran has

• somewhat OK horde clear (without planetwide stunlock)
• a lowkey difficult to use sniper rifle
• abysmal health and toughness (even with curios)

[shell widget]

https://tenor.com/view/i-get-it-omg-danny-devito-oh-my-god-gif-15873107

[signal dock]

i try to hug left or right walls when playing ogryn in melee

i try to stray away from the center paths

[quick burrow]

get out da way you shield boyo

or ul get tickled

[signal dock]

if im shooting i get a 'fuck everyone but me' attitude because i have a fully automatic sniper rifle

[delicate estuary]

and no way to regen toughness like other classes other than shout

[signal dock]

i will just shoot the guy

[delicate estuary]

that is the most annoying part

[signal dock]

yea its really abysmal

[delicate estuary]

why do my ranged kills not regen toughness

[quick burrow]

well u can

[delicate estuary]

like what is that bullshit

if you kill elites/specialists sure

[signal dock]

like i play my ogryn to farm mats for my veteran

[quick burrow]

u can take the talent to regen toughness on headshot and elite kill

[signal dock]

lol

[quick burrow]

if u really want

[delicate estuary]

other classes get toughness from just hitting

lmfao

[quick burrow]

no psyker is from warp attack kill

[delicate estuary]

psyker gets toughness from crits

[quick burrow]

zealot is for having enemies near you

ogryn i dont play ogryn

[delicate estuary]

ogryn regens 4 times the toughness with just 2 swings

and zealot has infinite IFrames

[golden axle]

Current hot shit for veteran survivability is honestly 3 toughness curios. Their health pool is such dogwater.

[signal dock]

for veteran the trick is that you regen toughness by staying on the mourningstar and watching the fireteam do the mission from a bedroom

[delicate estuary]

thats what I do 💀

I juust sit back like 40 meters

let the others do their things while I click with mk12

[signal dock]

god ogryn is so fucking good right now

you can do so much with an ogryn

its ridiculous

[golden axle]

Then switch to VoC build after feeling left out

It's the natural progression

[delicate estuary]

nah its an ego thing at this point

kinda want to make it work

[signal dock]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-darktide-warhammer40k-warhammer-warhammer40000-gif-27171173

[golden axle]

Okoii based

[signal dock]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-run-naked-funny-gif-18082679885906165021

[delicate estuary]

also kinda insane how DPS heavy the game is atm

MK12 is insanely good if you can hit heads but then you have the columnus people jsut mag dumping

[delicate moat]

man i really want smokes to be just a bit better

its so fun

[gray belfry]

66/100 for Dream Team penance.

[golden axle]

Name checks out

[reef cedar]

stam or tough regen for the last perk to reroll on this curio?

[delicate estuary]

lets hope the rework of the rework is coming soon

[delicate moat]

stam regen is so good

[delicate estuary]

I just run triple stam, toughness, toughness then just stam regen, toughness regen and whatever the third

[gray belfry]

i got tough/corruption resist personally. still dunno why i run ittbh should swap it

[unreal bone]

Warhammer 40k: Iraqi Freedom

I smell oil.

[delicate moat]

i might be a weirdo but i run +6 stamina curios on my vet

[unreal bone]

🛢️

[iron marten]

understandable if you run deadshot

[static lotus]

Ofc because of hordes of elites game throw at you you kinda have to kill 20 maulers 10 crushers in 3 sec or die lol

[delicate moat]

no i just like more stamina, even without deadshot

[iron marten]

ooo

ic

[static lotus]

I do like this intensity btw

[iron marten]

not weird tbh

[delicate estuary]

yea I get that its just the mk12 doesnt compare to that

[iron marten]

I run +3 stamina myself

[delicate estuary]

let me just dink the 1 million maulers coming at me

[static lotus]

I don't even know what m12 mean

[delicate moat]

the mg xii?

[delicate estuary]

yes

[delicate moat]

super based gun

incredibly solid

[static lotus]

Ah yes lasgun... Forget bout it we are past lvl1 acolytes and way into space marine league

[delicate estuary]

until you find carapace

[feral stratus]

What am i looking for with the heavy las pistol?

This is the first one i got

[golden axle]

Now you want ghost and I wish you could've done maniac/ crit chance but that's up to you which you'd prefer. Crit chance is nice here with how the laspistol weakpoint/crit base stats are.

If you somehow hit the lottery and roll ghost in your transcendant you're all set

[candid tundra]

this is the exact debate I'm having, ghost or dumdum

[feral stratus]

You called and you shall recieve

[candid tundra]

this is my current one

I will replace between the eyes and one of the perks

[golden axle]

Ghost. I was on the dumdum train for awhile but ghost is insane.

[golden axle]

Wow ok

[candid tundra]

what exactly does dumdum do anywyas

[feral stratus]

I'm impressed i got it on the first try

[candid tundra]

anyways*

[golden axle]

Dumdum is +dmg stacking when hitting shit up close.

[unreal bone]

Gotta love how there is 0 similarities between Auric Maelstron missions.

One minute it's easy

The next it's hell.

[feral stratus]

Okay, so now i change the perks for crit chance and maniac?

[golden axle]

Welp. Crit chance maniac and you're all set to go.

[tawny pawn]

i havent played this game in months.. but what changed with las pistols?

i see them a ton now

[golden axle]

Overall buff across the board.

They hit hard, they crit hard, they're ammo efficient.

[candid tundra]

ours is literally swapped, you have ghost 4 and infernus 3, I have infernus 4 and (soon to be) ghost 3

[tawny pawn]

interesting

[feral stratus]

Impressive

[candid tundra]

so yeah you think I should slap ghost 3 on it than keep trying for dumdum?

[golden axle]

I like ghost and infernus personally. It's nutty for monstrosity DPS stacking while you're weakspotting it. You could take dumdum if you prefer ofc. Ghost is just absurd though.

[feral stratus]

Also, what's the thinking behind taking ghost? I'm curious

[gaunt hinge]

run 9 you weakling

[golden axle]

You can walk into 50 gunners and be invincible as long as you're headshotting things

[golden axle]

Invincibility

[tawny pawn]

did assault chainaxe ever get a buff, or still kinda a poo poo weapon?

[golden axle]

It still camera snaps so, poopoo.

[candid tundra]

alright, I'll try out ghost. Thanks for the advice

[golden axle]

My pleasure. Enjoy walking at scab hordes and no clipping through their bullets.

[candid tundra]

oh wait one more thing

[candid tundra]

only shit thing about mine is the perks

[feral stratus]

For builds i'm taking the basic executioneers stance build i'll guess

[candid tundra]

should I remove crit chance or stamina for maniacs?

cause both help deadshot in a way

I'm thinking prob crit dmg cause that sucks anyways

right?

[golden axle]

Crit dmg increase is not great yeah

[candid tundra]

ok, thanks

[golden axle]

I like taking the laspistol in the melee VoC build but It works plenty well with executioners

[umbral scaffold]

Greetings.

[feral stratus]

Okay, just tried it in the Psykhanium, this thing melts

[hollow turtle]

Unpopular opinion. If I'm running infiltration with low profile, then it is my responsibility to pick people up and do the hacking.

[junior grail]

Another unpopular opinion. None of my vet builds have Exec Stance

[gray belfry]

my brother in the astra militarum, VoC is the new norm

[junior grail]

Kruber lives on in Darktide

[gray belfry]

'auric heresy mission, get to the final scan, suddenly 2 people get downed to one hound and flamer' i love randoms i love randoms

[feral stratus]

I just remember that i bought all this just to get an almost perfect roll in the first try

lmao

[gray belfry]

usually how it goes

either you do it piecemeal and it takes forever, or you buy in bulk and get it in first 1-3 goes

[iron marten]

it's even funnier in auric damnation!

[plush kernel]

i had a level 306 zealot run into a large room alone and get downed immediately

[elder relic]

still better than the guy that set off two daemonhosts which i had the joy of meeting

[plush kernel]

i had another zealot doing that but he'd actually kill them by himself

still kinda annoying

[elder relic]

i think he actually set it off and ran away so, not sure if he was trolling or just dumb

[delicate moat]

"oops i forgor this is not the one shot dunder hammer loadout"

[elder relic]

oh he also had a eviserator yet strugged against a couple of dregs

[delicate moat]

thats the pub blessing

[spare mountain]

Is there a breakpoint for Thermal Resistance on Plasma guns that you don't want to fall below?

[delicate moat]

u can have lvl <30s be better than some lvl 300s

[spare mountain]

case in point

[elder relic]

i had one that was like 30% thermal, it went to 70% real fast

[upper lichen]

never used autopistol before but melky has what i feel like is a pretty amazing one? worth?

[elder relic]

if only that was a recon las

[cunning wing]

That feeling when i have to change to my Zealot in order to farm mats for my Veteran

[upper lichen]

lmaooo feel that

[nimble hazel]

Worth the melkbux or nawh?

[elder python]

in what build would this be use? what would you guys change?

[velvet wraith]

pog

[old quail]

[velvet wraith]

now need power cycler iv and we're good

[valid apex]

Think you run uncanny and mercy

[short wigeon]

any chainsword mains wanna rate my roll?

[pine snow]

invest in this or no

do i pray to rng

[halcyon zephyr]

Not if it dips into your milk reserves and you're targeting something in particular

[pine snow]

i feel like im gonna get shafted with either the blessing or perk

[nimble hazel]

I am not

The Zealots advised me against it though

[halcyon zephyr]

If you have to ask, and you don't have mats to spare, don't do it

[nimble hazel]

Mmm good advice

[valid apex]

Nah. Can’t be saved. Bad perk. Bad blessing. Ammo is low

[pine snow]

back to gambling i guess

[acoustic wyvern]

exhilirating takedown or covering fire?

[halcyon zephyr]

It was mostly for astro about his plasma gun but yeah it's not worth it.
I'm picky and only upgrade things that are 370+ with decent stats, everything else gets broken down

[halcyon zephyr]

What weapon?

[acoustic wyvern]

Talent tree

[halcyon zephyr]

Oh. Dunno, depends on what you want I guess. What do they do again?

[pine snow]

what stats am i generally looking for on plasma gun and what %? I'm guessing its damage, ammo, stopping power, charge time?

[acoustic wyvern]

which one would you pick?

[elder relic]

stealth

[elder python]

@elder relic any rolls i should change? i havent use knives ever lol just saw it had good base stats

[halcyon zephyr]

If I was using a marksman weapon like MK12, I'd go for exhilarating takedown. If I'm using a faster, more momentum based weapon I'd go for covering fire.
Then again, I'd also go for exhilarating takedown in that scenario too.
Guess it depends more on cohesion and whether or not your party is zealot/melee heavy.

Though the more I read it, covering fire is also great for marksman weapons.
If you're gonna aim for the head or be a tank, go for exhilarating. otherwise, covering for team utility

[spare mountain]

If Volatile worked as intended, would it be viable?

[elder relic]

i think its a decent weapon, you just really gotta know where to hit crushers and maulers etc and quickly

go for backstabs too ofc

[spare mountain]

I'm just wondering if I should just wait out until Volatile is fixed

rather than moving it off my plasma

[acoustic wyvern]

hmm i see your point

i think i'll run covering fire since i'm going with the agri iag

[halcyon zephyr]

I edited my post a bit

[severe gale]

no

bad stats bad blessings bad perks

[acoustic wyvern]

Thanks for the input

[halcyon zephyr]

Np, good luck

[gaunt hinge]

i desparately want a mod that counts shots body blocked

[cosmic scroll]

[umbral scaffold]

A mod that counts every ghost hit

[hollow turtle]

God-Emperor having more than 1 zealot in a squad is the worst. They leave you behind when you're getting flanked by all the armor.

[candid bridge]

how do you do the empowered push attack with the mk6 ps?

[shadow dagger]

uhh you use the t3 power cycler

[potent iris]

power up, block, push attack

[shadow dagger]

and then special -> pushattack -> light1

oh thats what they mean

[drowsy leaf]

think this is a pretty good roll

[shadow dagger]

its light4

brain isnt braining today

[low kelp]

Whats a good melee weapon to combo with plasma gun for auric?

[candid bridge]

i feel like my character just isnt doing it? lol

[drowsy leaf]

what ult are you running with plasma?

[low kelp]

Krak grenade -> Survivalist -> Voice (No revive)

[drowsy leaf]

what do you find you are pulling your melee out for, horde clear or defence

[low kelp]

horde clear and just holding out when I'm not using plasma for elites/zerkers/etc

atm i'm using a 'double energize' power sword

[delicate moat]

dual wield PS when

[surreal crown]

Are blessings shared between classes?

[low kelp]

For same guns yea

[drowsy leaf]

power sword is very very punishing if you mess up your positioning, and even then the mk3 has a worse moveset compared to the mk6 interms of oneshot flexibilty. mk4 devilclaw would be pretty good or combat knife if you are able to utilize the moveset

[low kelp]

I got a decent combat knife but haven't found many good blessings for it. I'll just have to farm a ton of dockets to try and get better of other weapons

[gaunt hinge]

it should look like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1166946528506691584/stabbedaga.mp4?ex=65559125&is=65431c25&hm=1f050aa4f690d85ce88df6a07ec090b77b0df445a3ec20bbb0209f0e64f9053d&

[candid bridge]

yeah idk how to do that stab

[gaunt hinge]

when you block hold down m1

[candid bridge]

ooooooooo

okay

i see

thank you

never knew that was how it was done lol

[hoary valley]

So ok, why do people hate infil so much

I need to know cause I keep having to prove mfs wrong

[drowsy leaf]

infiltrate is amazing

[acoustic wyvern]

no one says they hate infil

[tall torrent]

Point heavy
“Makes enemies go attack teammates”
Effects not as apparent as VoC or X-stance
“It’s just zealot stealth but worse”

[acoustic wyvern]

but voice of the emperor tho is amazing

[tall torrent]

But it’s a great tool to get urself out of bad situations and reposition to take out priority targets safer

[drowsy leaf]

60% close damage for free, no need for headshots, clutch revives and objectives, affects both melee and ranged damage, allows for more mobility

9/10 times a vet with x stance joins my game they do not do their job of annihilating every shooter on the map and fail to pull out their melee weapon to reposition.

that 1 in 10 is a god that makes the run butter smooth

[hoary valley]

Well ok so

I’m basically being told I’m griefing, for going a pack ahead maybe two and shredding it from behind

Isn’t that the point of the build?

[drowsy leaf]

yes and no, it really depends

[acoustic wyvern]

if you die, yes

[drowsy leaf]

are you consistently getting downed while attempting this?

if so, then you need to work on your situational awareness to pick better targets or take the 90% reduced threat talent to make your way back after

that 90% talent saves me so often to allow for shooter clean up

[plush kernel]

I wanted to experiment with infiltrate next time I play

I got a high stat iag that rolled raking fire

[hoary valley]

Only time I’m going down truly is if it’s a huge wave of armor rolling up on me and I didn’t see or hear it

[quasi grotto]

I always run double infil and treat it as a "wow this situation is terrible these key things need to die now/ I need to get over there now" and otherwise just play it as baseline veteran

[hoary valley]

That’s where I struggle but, and yeah I’m a new player but I’m not that bad

But when I matchmaker stuff

I never have issues

[acoustic wyvern]

when you infiltrate, theres always more enemies behind you

[hoary valley]

I only have issues during a 2-4 stack

That’s the weird part

[low willow]

I have heard often that plasma guns do more damage at 71% charge rate, but I do not think that's true anymore.

When shooting a chaos hound in the meatgrinder, the gun on the left does 662 damage. The gun on the right doe 667.

[acoustic wyvern]

when you start running damnation, a small mistep is all it takes to down a vet

i think 662 and 667 are really negligible numbers

[drowsy leaf]

stay near the team on damnation, that toughness regen is a big deal

[low willow]

They are.

[acoustic wyvern]

hence why more vets run VOC on damnation

[hoary valley]

That’s the thing, I have a fuck ton of it

And I don’t have issues until big metal packs or others lag behind to mess with a singular trash mob

[drowsy leaf]

more is always better, and you team can cover you

[acoustic wyvern]

you gotta remember other classes play differently

[river quail]

Unironically try smoke nades if you struggle surviving

It reduces enemy FOV so much you can walk right up to them and not aggro them

[hoary valley]

I only struggle to survive when my group is lagging behind or I run into too much metal

Which I fixed metal today

[river quail]

And its a net help to your team because it forces gunners/snipers to reposition to regain LOS

[hoary valley]

Sometimes I’ll overextend but, it’s rare

[shadow dagger]

how does coherency work

[acoustic wyvern]

which means you're still running ahead of the pack

[river quail]

But if you run infil with smoke grenades and a light gun you struggle dealing with armor

[hoary valley]

Only for snipers for example though

Or gunners to

[river quail]

If you get a chance, throw a smoke nade at a daemon host

You can literally walk right up to them and they won't alert

It applies to all enemies

[shadow dagger]

is it a radius around you where your teammates get your aura bonus or is it where you get theirs

[river quail]

Double infil with smoke nades is very safe

[drowsy leaf]

love the shovel on my infiltrate build, the special attack ignores stagger resistance and lets you cancel your light attacks. stagger city for ragers/crushers

[hoary valley]

Right but does krak grenade work better tho?

[river quail]

Depends

[tall torrent]

How do u build shovel

[acoustic wyvern]

krak won't kill a daemon in 1 hit

[hoary valley]

So general use

[river quail]

For monsters and armor yeah

[hoary valley]

What should I default to for auric 5

[river quail]

Whatever you are comfortable with

[tall torrent]

I’ll upgrade uncanny strike once I get them but what else should I change

[drowsy leaf]

decimator thunderstrike unarmored/flak

is what i have

[hoary valley]

That’s the thing, I don’t really care which grenade I use but which will prevent me from being flamed basically

[river quail]

Toughness is huge in endgame

So building toughness health curios is massive

[hoary valley]

And I have 200+

With those

[river quail]

Voice of command and the uh

Eelic ability for zealot

Even after the nerf

Are very popular

Nobody will complain if you use those

[acoustic wyvern]

anyone who flames you for using diff grenades type is already a nut case

[acoustic wyvern]

i don't think you should bother much about what others think of your build unless of course you share

[river quail]

But other than that proper kiting, coherency, and targeting will carry you further than any build will

[drowsy leaf]

honestly, i should get a better shovel lol

this one does work pretty well though

[elder relic]

Unless it's a recon las psyker don't see how there's anything worth complaining over

[tall torrent]

What do I do with this

Swap shred for brutal momentum

And specialist to flak?

[delicate moat]

swap an axe

[tall torrent]

This axe is just not viable at all?

[river quail]

This would go so hard on antax

[delicate moat]

i just dont like tactical axes

[elder relic]

Change it to unarmored

[river quail]

Swap shred with brutal momentum

[tall torrent]

I tried it for 1 game and it was better than I thought

[delicate moat]

this would be really good on rashad mk2 too

[tall torrent]

It’s like playing knife except I actually have a move set that goes through multiple enemies

And I can instantly stagger any enemy out of their combo

[delicate moat]

as long as u enjoy it it's good

[tall torrent]

Ik
But it’s a tac axe

[delicate moat]

fatshark swap underlying weapon when

[river quail]

Honestly

[delicate moat]

why cant we just use minecraft enchanting system

[river quail]

If you like the tac axe llaystyle

Try the catachan mk4

[delicate moat]

or mk7

[zealous wyvern]

mk4 is what i use

[plush kernel]

Mk4 dclaw my beloved

[zealous wyvern]

it feels nothing like taxe to me

how come?

[plush kernel]

I was using mine before they even nerfed the psword

[delicate moat]

dammit i ran out of dockets

[river quail]

You have wayyy better horde clear with mk4

[delicate moat]

i still have 3k plasteel but no dockets

[zealous wyvern]

probably but why would liking the little hatchett indicate they would enjoy the dclaw. its much slower and has a parry

[river quail]

I come home from work to grind damnation for t4 blessing gifts and plasteel

[zealous wyvern]

seems rather different

[delicate moat]

they need to limit how low the rating of damnation gifts go

[zealous wyvern]

true

[river quail]

Agreed

[delicate moat]

"haha gold gift"
"309 base rating"

[gray belfry]

my faves when you get a gold reward and its 450 with the worst stats known to man

[deft spruce]

yea ive never gotten a good one for well except getting high tier perks

[river quail]

I dont think I've ever gotten a damnation gift I would ever actually use

On any character

[gray belfry]

saw this in the shop earlier today. look at it and laugh

[delicate moat]

honestly they should go into the negatives for lulz

[zealous wyvern]

i got a really good vraks today

headhunter surgical, 80 dmg, 508 rating

out of nowhere from Him

[river quail]

Damn

What tier blessings?

[gray belfry]

yeah ive gotten a few decent 370+ that have ended up being bricked by hadron anyway

[delicate moat]

my milk shop still has crap today

[zealous wyvern]

4 and 3

[river quail]

Haddon bricked a near perfect iron helm i got today

[plush kernel]

Classic

[river quail]

Hadron**

[zealous wyvern]

i earnt its 4 headhunter though

[river quail]

374 base rating

[zealous wyvern]

iron helm?

[plush kernel]

Thunderhammer

[astral blade]

literally just got this penance done

[zealous wyvern]

1000??????

i thought i finished it already

oh

[elder relic]

Aren't you nice

[astral blade]

and how long has it being patch 13

[zealous wyvern]

i thought i was done

at 120 or so

[gray belfry]

only at 689

[zealous wyvern]

it will take a long time until i get a thousand untie rescues

revive is easier

because i am usually the one who needs untie

[astral blade]

join this game at patch 13

[gray belfry]

how bad are the other teammates you keep getting

[river quail]

Probably gonna mess around with columnus once I can get a decent roll with an infil build

[delicate moat]

im only at 304/500 rescues

[elder relic]

Usually they down at such an shit spot it's better to just let them respawn

[delicate moat]

but i apparently have the 1000 get 'em up penance done as well

[zealous wyvern]

get em up much easier

[delicate moat]

the 500 rescues need kind souls to sacrifice themselves

or i can simply murder teammates with barrels

[astral blade]

yeah i'm that kind soul