veteran-class

[kind scarab]

Personally, I don't need toughness or health on my curios

[umbral scaffold]

i do volley I think

[kind scarab]

So I just run stuff that gives me effects that benefit me more throughout my missions

[tepid pagoda]

Probably want toughness curios for Exec stance but idk

[kind scarab]

This is effectively what I use on all my builds, minus a couple

[tepid pagoda]

Combat Ability

Ew

[umbral scaffold]

2 of them are touchness blessing. this one is max HP as u can see

[kind scarab]

Combat ability on all my curios means I need 1 less elite/special kill to get my abilities back on average

[tepid pagoda]

Crazy

[umbral scaffold]

:coolfingerguns:

[tepid pagoda]

It's almost 5 seconds off exec stance that's true

I do run it with shout too but idk if it's worth it

Not that there's much else

[kind scarab]

Depends

If you're doing extended form shout?

The one with 45s cooldown

or the normal one

Either way it's worth tbh

[tepid pagoda]

Nah spam shout is ideal

It's like 3.6s off

Which is actually very vital for shout

[kind scarab]

3.6?

You mean on the baseline

ye

[umbral scaffold]

are shotguns worth using in this game or nah

[tepid pagoda]

Ye

[kind scarab]

Yes, but actually no

[tepid pagoda]

Shotguns are best kept for Zealot

[kind scarab]

They're worth using if you find them fun, and want to lean into the gimmick of using their single load special attacks

[tepid pagoda]

They're good but not for primary weapon use

[kind scarab]

Otherwise, I find them horrible

[copper parcel]

I wish I had screen capped it but I managed to snipe six Snipers in one charged shot from Saint Plasgun the other night on an auric damnation mission

[umbral scaffold]

oo that sucks

i hate how most other weapons/builds such for vet in this game

maybe babyshark should fix that

[umbral scaffold]

Someone on the subreddit explained they were best used as your support weapon rather than as a damage dealer, shotguns do feel quite anemic in the game but their slugs are nice

[manic badger]

Vet has probably the widest variety of viable weapons to use out of all the classes

[umbral scaffold]

yeah but i cant use as secondary as vet

Shotguns have high stagger and I’m pretty sure they’ll stagger elites such as maulers and maybe even crushers

[umbral scaffold]

like what? I only see plasma, helbore and headhunter. The others seem subpar

[slim hamlet]

Is there a breakpoint for the fire team talent? (3% damage) or does it stack or anything to justify choosng it?

[umbral scaffold]

Braced autogun, infantry autogun, kantrael lasgun, stub revolver

[kind scarab]

No

[manic badger]

Literally all the autoguns, all the braced guns except xolumnus. The revolver is actually s tier. The laser pistol is extremely good

[umbral scaffold]

oh i didnt know the pistol was good

[quick burrow]

laser pistol turn sthe game into coid

cod*

i resisted it for so longer loving the bolter and plasma but i got a okay one tried it and it was game changing

[umbral scaffold]

I was surprised by how fun the laspistol was playing as my new psyker

[manic badger]

The laser pistol with a knife is just run and gun fast gameplay

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/shoot-your-shot-gif-22421808

[south garnet]

Please only run revolver if you can aim and be somewhat judicious about ammo use

That said, it rocks

[umbral scaffold]

Pov you’re a dreg and I have a laspistol

[manic badger]

You don’t have to be judicious about ammo use if you hit headshots and only use it on specials.

[umbral scaffold]

This, don’t use it on trash and even on shooters it’s a little iffy since I use it on shooters if I can’t close the gap

[manic badger]

If you do that its one of the more ammo efficient guns in the gsme

[umbral scaffold]

so the laspistol is good what else?

[tepid pagoda]

That's very judicious

[south garnet]

That is being judicious

[shell widget]

mkay so new to veteran and usually run ogryn. what's good to look out for in regards to melee weapons?

[umbral scaffold]

It’s the one gun I got the 90% accuracy penance on

[manic badger]

Elites and specials sorry*

[quick burrow]

chainsword is pretty meta

[strange grove]

hey if you are going to run plasma, plz don't waste it on poxwalkers etc...............

[quick burrow]

powersword mk6

[strange grove]

never understood that

[kind scarab]

Powersword, Devil Claw

[versed osprey]

is the chain axe that bad?

[tepid pagoda]

The only bad guns are like recon lasguns and certain mks of guns like Graia brauto

[kind scarab]

Yes

[tepid pagoda]

Yes

[umbral scaffold]

whats the powersword. The munitorum?

[versed osprey]

why is there no eviscerator on the veteran?

[shell widget]

oh my god I can use chain weapons now

[strange grove]

it needs love, I love the concept of the chain axe

[umbral scaffold]

Guy who’s never played v2 getting on darktide: hmm yes I think I will empty my boltgun fully automatic into this horde of poxwalkers

[versed osprey]

you cant buy it at the shop

[kind scarab]

Chain axe, Tactical axe, and Chainsword are all at the bottom of the vets weapon list

[quick burrow]

only use chainaxe if your a man of culture

[umbral scaffold]

which laspistol and revolver variant is best u think

[kind scarab]

there's only one revolver

[strange grove]

lol

[kind scarab]

And laspistol

[versed osprey]

lol not the eviscerator is meta

[umbral scaffold]

I think there’s only one variant for both

[shell widget]

yessir

[umbral scaffold]

oo ok cool

[kind scarab]

Vet don't get evis

And even then on zealot, I'd rather run chainsword, not evis

[strange grove]

shovel is goated imo for vet, best defensive option available

[versed osprey]

Chainsword is pretty good on vet

with the right perks its the perfect tool for horde clearing

[kind scarab]

Chainsword is only good at low difficulties

[umbral scaffold]

I like using the revolver now even just starting out on a new class since by default it’s already at its max ammo cap and doesn’t have an ammo % cap. So if you can aim it’s a good gun to carry throughout til you hit lvl 30 and crafting becomes somewhat worth it

[shell widget]

was kind of wondering, the vet shovel really reminds me of ogryn shovel in terms of horde clear heavy moves

[kind scarab]

Over there, it'll shine much better than most things

At higher difficulties, you don't want to be caught dead with that thing

[strange grove]

its back and forth sweeps, like the thunder hammer, I love it, and the special can stop ragers and mutants

[south garnet]

Shovel is incredible, I use it with nearly every build

[versed osprey]

my friend plays with it at maelstorm auric and it works really good for horde clearing

[shell widget]

oh good. so im guessing chain axe is the equivalent of single target destruction?

[kind scarab]

Anything can be used at auric maelstrom is you aren't a garbage player

[umbral scaffold]

The biggest problem with the chain sword is that someone else will come in and take your kill when you’re in the middle of cutting a mauler or crusher to bits

[kind scarab]

That means nothing about the weapon

[slow spade]

ironic considering the chainsword specifically lost like 2/3rd of its hordeclear lol

[south garnet]

With tier 4 skullcrusher and decimator shovel ascends

[versed osprey]

no one cares about kills

[slow spade]

I care about kills c:

[kind scarab]

I care about the kills

[slow spade]

blood for the Golden Throne UwU

[kind scarab]

Cause if shit ain't dying

You ain't doing your job

[umbral scaffold]

Very hot take I like the dopamine of slaughtering a special enemy and seeing my name on the top

[slow spade]

pacifist run

[versed osprey]

Im talking about kill steal

who cares if you dont get the kill

[slow spade]

Vet lol

[umbral scaffold]

If no one cared about kills no one would kill the enemy was in the middle of slaughtering

[kind scarab]

Psykers care about killsteals

[slow spade]

Vet specifically cares about killsteals

[kind scarab]

You literally ruining a whole third of their tree

[slow spade]

Confirmed Kill and the "-6 sec on ult"

[kind scarab]

Vets also cry when you ruin their ex stance

[tall torrent]

MG1a infantry Lasgun
MG12 infantry Lasgun
MG4 infantry Lasgun
Mk1 helbore Lasgun
Mk2 helbore Lasgun
Mk3 helbore Lasgun
Laspistol
Mk3 headhunter Autogun
Mk7 headhunter Autogun
Mk2 braced Autogun
Mk8 braced Autogun
Mk5 infantry Autogun
Boltgun
Plasma gun
Autopistol
Revolver

[kind scarab]

^

Good guns

[upper bramble]

Why does vet have so many guns damn

[slow spade]

because its the gun dude

[slim hamlet]

How is the devils claw faring in rankings after the last patches?

[kind scarab]

He's a vet

[south garnet]

Vet is gun

[kind scarab]

He guns

[quick burrow]

mg1a inf so good mk5 auto good

[tall torrent]

These are vet’s best guns rn imo

[zealous wyvern]

i just re-noticed that veteran helmets do not fasten the chinstraps and i hate it

[slow spade]

one of the best melee options for Vet

[kind scarab]

Very, very good melee

Top 3

[zealous wyvern]

good thing i never wear those helmets

[versed osprey]

whats the top 1

[kind scarab]

Top 1 is either power sword or devil claw

Depends on how aggressive you are

[slow spade]

Combat Knife 💪

[safe flower]

Welp, I think the shovel is finally gonna stay this way.

[tall torrent]

The other 2 infantry autoguns also good but Mk5 specifically utilizes onslaught talent to its best potential as it has the highest firerate

[slow spade]

oh shit that's a nice shovel

[south garnet]

They're designed to be taken off quickly when it becomes clear you are the protagonist of the match

[slow spade]

I too hate armor

[safe flower]

Not sure about the infested perk, but I feel like it works alright with thrust

[slow spade]

yeah Infested is pretty eh

at least you'll do more damage to dogs?

[umbral scaffold]

Yea shovel by itself already slaughters dog packs and poxwalkers

[zealous wyvern]

HA

good one

[slow spade]

I'd do maniac because fuck 2/3rds of the specialists in the game

[versed osprey]

wich devil claw is better?

[umbral scaffold]

I set up by a choke point and kill so many dogs with a shovel

[slow spade]

Mk1 if you ONLY care about hordeclear, MK4 if you care about elites and specialists, MK7 if you want to be balanced at both

[umbral scaffold]

The dog pack dogs are squishier than the normal lone hounds

[zealous wyvern]

4 is good for specials and elites

it has on command strikedown heavy

lightr heavy combo for clear

[slow spade]

keep in mind MK4 and MK7 are ONLY different in terms of moveset

[kind scarab]

MK4 is literally the best cause it can do horde clear/special/heavy clear

[slow spade]

some people keep saying the stats are different

[zealous wyvern]

what is different about 7?

[slow spade]

MK7 can as well

[zealous wyvern]

i only ever have 1 and 4

[shell widget]

[zealous wyvern]

[slow spade]

literally the only difference is the cleave attack is first instead of the overhead

[umbral scaffold]

I never looked at the difference for the Catachan sword I just got the mk4 cause I thought it looked the coolest

[slow spade]

that's it

[zealous wyvern]

no i meant

[kind scarab]

MK4 has instant access to a strikedown heavy

[zealous wyvern]

what is different about 7s stats?

[slow spade]

nothing, just people being dumb

[zealous wyvern]

you said 1 and 4 are only different in moves which i suspected

ok but

ok

[kind scarab]

So I feel that's better for removing problems immediately

[tepid pagoda]

Mk 1 is the odd one out

[zealous wyvern]

i assumed you meant that 1 and 4 are the same but 7 is not

[versed osprey]

[slow spade]

no its MK4 and MK7 that's the same

[tepid pagoda]

It has the best horde clear though

[slow spade]

MK1 is the different one

[zealous wyvern]

oh so what is with 1?

i assume it is just fast vs slow

[tepid pagoda]

Mk 1 has best cleave heavies

That's about it

[slow spade]

its ONLY hordeclear, it only has cleave attack heavies

it loses the strikedown attack that MK4 and MK7 have

also it looks funky

[quick burrow]

is deadshot worth it to run with pistol?

[tepid pagoda]

Yes

Always

[tall torrent]

Mk1 is just horizontal sweep heavies

[quick burrow]

i feel like yes but its being weird

[slow spade]

for Laspistol I would

[tepid pagoda]

Make sure you have duck n dive

[slow spade]

revolver and laspistol can use it well

[tepid pagoda]

And one stamina curio

[slow spade]

I wouldn't use it on shredder though

[zealous wyvern]

ok so they all have the same stats

[tall torrent]

Laspistol cares abt crit a lot
Revolver cares abt crit above all else

Autopistol kinda doesn’t care abt crit

[slow spade]

its the funny movesets

[low wadi]

is krak the best?

[zealous wyvern]

this made me think that mk1 actually has different stats and not just movement

[untold mulch]

Power Sword 3 was good for?

[tall torrent]

Depends on what u are looking for

[slow spade]

Losing the strikedown is a big deal

[versed osprey]

is the parry any good on the devil claw?

[tall torrent]

Faster activation

[low wadi]

big boom

dmg

[tall torrent]

You have to use them

[umbral scaffold]

If you can time it yes

[tall torrent]

Against crushers & bulwarks?

[low wadi]

all

[slow spade]

Parry can block ANY attack including the instant kills of overheads

[kind scarab]

Better horde clear + Faster activation

[umbral scaffold]

It can parry anything even crushers

[versed osprey]

bet

[tall torrent]

Frag superior then

[slow spade]

any melee attack

[untold mulch]

very nice

[slow spade]

people thought it could parry guns for some reason

[low wadi]

i clicked alot of granade talents, u think shredder is better? or can krak be better?

[tall torrent]

Shredder is more general purpose and deals immense stagger to clear space for u

[low wadi]

i play maelstrom 5

[umbral scaffold]

Tzeentch Tip: the only weapon in the game that can parry bullets is the power sword but only when activated, go ahead and launch into some auric maelstrom and give it a shot

[slow spade]

with Grenade Tinkerer, shredder frag is very reliable revive tool also it synergies with bleed zealots and ogryns

[kind scarab]

I keep saying it should be able to parry a snipers shot, and reflect it back at them

I am still waiting

[tall torrent]

Krak just deletes crushers & bulwarks

[kind scarab]

[slow spade]

wait till the Fromsoft version of Darktide UwU

[low wadi]

1? or splash?

[tall torrent]

Krak is basically exclusively used for bulwarks & crushers, and bosses

[slow spade]

Katana wielding ragers deflecting Helbore shots

[kind scarab]

100% would play that game

[slow spade]

honestly same

[tall torrent]

Krak sticking onto any non-boss enemy 1 hit kills them

[winter dove]

Apparently the Plasma Gun has the same special action keybinding bug that a bunch of weapons do. Fun!

[low wadi]

if 3 crushers stand on eachother, will the krak splash them

[umbral scaffold]

Yea but that is rare

[slow spade]

simply be lucky

[tall torrent]

Yes

[umbral scaffold]

Even if they are packed together you might only kill the one it stuck to

[low wadi]

ill try some krak

thx for info, big

[slow spade]

krak grenade is also magnetic to armor

[tall torrent]

But when you’re getting demolished by specialists, Krak won’t save u as good as shredder

[slow spade]

but NOT unyielding (even though it will stick)

so make sure you aim well vs bosses

[low wadi]

hopefully i have a team for that, or VoC

[winter dove]

What's the difference between the Helbores?

[tall torrent]

Mk1 middle ground
Mk2 rapid fire
Mk3 big dmg but slow

[umbral scaffold]

Mk 3 is the hardest hitting one with the best ap

[slow spade]

iirc Helbore 1 is middleground, Helbore 2 is fastest firing, Helbore 3 is thicc damage

[winter dove]

Cool

[low wadi]

do you enjoy some braced autogun btw?

[slow spade]

Helbore 3 is my recommendation BUT its slow fire rate means it takes some getting used to

[umbral scaffold]

The variants have different sights too so just give them all a shot or use weapon customization

[tall torrent]

Mk2 (Columnus) and Mk8 (Agripinaa) are good

[low wadi]

i would like to steal braced autogun talentbuild from a scientist

[slow spade]

nice knife

[umbral scaffold]

The shovel that fartshart used to dig the hole they’re in

[hollow turtle]

What weapon is the one with the LMG box for a magazine?

[slow spade]

heavy stubber from Ogryn

[tall torrent]

If you’re looking for pure dps on braced autoguns, deathspitter + fire frenzy is the way

But there’re people that like to run ranged attack immunity stuff

[low wadi]

yea,, i was looking for a talentbuild

[hollow turtle]

Isn't there one that's part of the weapon cutomization mod?

[tall torrent]

Talent build uh

[low wadi]

i have decent gun i think

[umbral scaffold]

It’s different from the main weapon customization mod most people are using the main one

[tall torrent]

I’d probably go

[zealous wyvern]

the Emperor has blessed me with an 80% 360 shovel

[slow spade]

woe, stamina + crit damage perks upon you

[tall torrent]

Shredder/krak based on ur preference
Split left to get survivalist
Go middle for VoC
Then go for middle & right tree

[low wadi]

i did basicly that

but

[zealous wyvern]

i do not understand

[low wadi]

i stopped

[tall torrent]

I use this for my Mk5 infantry Autogun, u can change based on what u need

[slow spade]

I hope Hadron bricks your shovel >:)

[zealous wyvern]

unarmoured and maniac

[umbral scaffold]

Anyone remember what mobility does and does it matter if you have a low mobility roll

[jaunty sphinx]

is there a +2 wounds curio for vet?

[kind scarab]

That's not nice

[slow spade]

:)

[kind scarab]

Yes

[jaunty sphinx]

ty!

[low wadi]

its a dumpstat

[jaunty sphinx]

ill keep looking then

[kind scarab]

If memory serves, everyone can get the +2 wound

[tall torrent]

For braced Autogun, not exactly

[low wadi]

is it viable to skip last tree to pick up other stuff

[jaunty sphinx]

you want 51% otherwise its a dump stat

[kind scarab]

Ya just gotta be way more lucky than possible

[tall torrent]

Because u get bad dodges

[strange grove]

What does a dumpstat mean? A DGAF stat?

[jaunty sphinx]

ye

[kind scarab]

Yes

[tall torrent]

Essentially

[strange grove]

🍻

[low wadi]

ok well it is what it is now

[sly mist]

24% mobility, what a dump stat

[tall torrent]

I like the melee related talents and if I’m running a not-so-slow-firing full auto gun I think onslaught is a decent pick

[low wadi]

im least mobile vet player

[jaunty sphinx]

hoho

haha

[low wadi]

yes

[jaunty sphinx]

they should add ratlings so I can rp KS himself

[tall torrent]

Left tree also doesn’t get that much value out of run & gun automatics?

[hollow turtle]

There's a different one?

[umbral scaffold]

I like the run and gunning of my autogun loadouts really does feel futuristic to be dodging and sliding

[low wadi]

this is what i did

[umbral scaffold]

Yes the one you’re talking about is called extended weapon customization IIRC it’s the one you see people using for the wacky weapons

[low wadi]

mayybe its just really stupid?

[tall torrent]

Honestly i think u should focus on middle bottom tree cuz that’s most of the must-take talents

[jaunty sphinx]

my workhorse got even better after the blessings got reworked, my god its beauty

only thing that makes me sad is stability but I can handle it usually

[low wadi]

then i guess i remove all my granade talents

[hollow turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-bt7274-titanfall-gif-14796563

Getting some TF2 vibes with that thought

[umbral scaffold]

Titan pilots from titanfall 2 would body our rejects unfortunately

[hollow turtle]

Lol yes.

[jaunty sphinx]

schmoovement is the right of all sentient beings

[umbral scaffold]

Their only disadvantage is their weapons are more like modern weapons and not batshit insane 40k ones

[hollow turtle]

Some Dark Age of Tech stuff right there.

[viral trench]

holy fuck squad leader plasma gun feels good

[jaunty sphinx]

plasma my beloved

still hunting for a godroll

[viral trench]

I was thinking vet just wasn't for me anymore but

[umbral scaffold]

Good luck

That’s 1 million Aquila’s per one good roll

[jaunty sphinx]

fr

its agonizing

[umbral scaffold]

Maybe more if hadron decides she doesn’t like you that day

I’ve mostly given up trying to get god rolls I go for 70-80% across the board stats and hopefully the perks and blessings are fine

[low wadi]

25% vs ogryns or 15% vs elite?

[umbral scaffold]

I usually change the perks to 25% DMG to flak and depending on the weapon role, carapace, unarmored, or maniac

On my stub revolver I have it carapace and unarmored since those dreg elites are tanky and aren’t 1hk from revolver shots to the dome

Flak armored dudes die like nothing tho

[kind scarab]

You definitely don't need unarmored on your revolver

[lucid crane]

Any advice for trying to get the On Overwatch penance? I've been trying but it feels like every run one random poxwalker manages to sneak up on me and deal a single point of health damage

[umbral scaffold]

It’s the difference between killing a dreg gunner in 1 shot or 2 and on revolvers that is a big difference

It’s not just damage but also more ammo efficient

[kind scarab]

Ain't no way you need unarmored on your revolver to oneshot them unless you're aiming strictly for the knees or something

[umbral scaffold]

I can show you I have 80% dmg on a good roll revolver and sometimes a dreg survives a shot to the dome

It’ll drop them to a sliver of health and I have to finish them off

[kind scarab]

Show us a pic of your revolver + tree

The problem will be obvious when we see those

[umbral scaffold]

Sure give me a sec

[ember folio]

i want to deal with ranged things in a marksman style and otherwise be supporty, any suggestions? are there any particular build videos to look at or whatnot?

[quick burrow]

u guys wanna ctitique my las pistol build?

[umbral scaffold]

Voc is the obvious ult for the support vet

There’s also the talent that grants team members in your aura 1% ammo per elite kill

Marksman you can go for revolver that is the true marksman weapon right there

[ember folio]

just to be clear, not sarcasm?

[umbral scaffold]

Not at all

[kind scarab]

Revolver can oneshot everything except for bosses if you have your build setup correctly

[umbral scaffold]

Revolver only struggles if you have bad aim or fighting a demonhost

[ember folio]

aight, revolver being viable sounds fun af

[kind scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1167425285369647125/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.10.27_-_13.29.47.02.mp4

You're welcome

[umbral scaffold]

So is that with the executioners stance

I’m using voc on my revolver build

[kind scarab]

Ex stance is only necessary for 1 shot breakpoints on the Ogryns

You can do the same with VoC you just need to use the +50% WS node on the bottom left tree

[umbral scaffold]

Alright nice I might change out the unarmored on my revolver

[ember folio]

So voc, revolver, and survivalist all for sure
Which grenade? (doubt smoke is good but between the ohter two)

[umbral scaffold]

It sometimes used to 1hk dreg gunners without the damage perk towards unarmored but it was inconsistent

[kind scarab]

Smoke is aight if you're going Ex Stance, but Kraks are better for clearing out bulwarks since you can't shoot through their shields

[umbral scaffold]

Shredder clears out the most enemies the best but has no ap capabilities

If you want to do a clutch revive shredder grenades are the best since if you’re surrounded, you throw one down at your feet and Rez your buddy

[kind scarab]

You can do that with any of the grenades, they all stagger if you drop one at your feet

[ember folio]

oh that actually sounds slick, i think i might change my mind about krak then

[ember folio]

hrrr 🤔

[umbral scaffold]

True but the horde clear capabilities of krak are kinda crap

[ember folio]

any horde melees?

[umbral scaffold]

And unfortunately no one considers the smoke grenade

[umbral scaffold]

There’s a few choices I can point you towards

[kind scarab]

No point having your grenade do the clearing, since more often than not you'll be clearing out enemies before you pick someone up. Or if you're using the kraks, everything around your teammate will die from the krak damage

Or at least end up far enough away it don't matter

[umbral scaffold]

My personal favorite for a while was brutal momentum combat axe mk 5

But I swung my axe around like a madman for that maximum cleave

[untold mulch]

Another All Guardsman group, where the rando's are absolute idiots

how you reach level 30, T4 maelstrom

and still don't know without rending you ain't doing shit to crushers with the graia brauto

[kind scarab]

I could always pop ingame and help if ya want Cor. My fevers died out a bit, so I can aim rn.

I think

[untold mulch]

nah, last match of the day

[kind scarab]

That's fair

[untold mulch]

just, the quality of players is going down in my experience

[kind scarab]

I've rarely found any good players anyway. I don't think the quality has ever been good to begin with

[umbral scaffold]

Power sword, combat axe with BM, sapper shovel, if anyone can think of what else is good I’d appreciate it

[untold mulch]

I died because I was dumb, run out of kraks and to revive my friend I chainsword the head of the crusher

He didn't got staggered, and began an overhead after I hit -_-

[umbral scaffold]

If I was a crusher and my brain was being actively cut into half by a chainsaw sword I think I’d stop what I was doing but fart shart doesn’t seem to agree

[wanton dawn]

It is often hard to notice other ppl contribution

[dusk jacinth]

axe is the ugliest melee possible i hate that its like peak meta

[untold mulch]

Trappers incapable of stunning, crushers that get hit head on and move constnatly

flamers and bombers everywhere

[dusk jacinth]

why would a psyker use a fucking axe

[umbral scaffold]

I love to take skulls and spill blood for the emperor

[kind scarab]

Thanks to the scoreboard, I can keep track of how they're on the ground most of the game, and dying to poxwalkers with 2 kills on specials/elites/disablers through the whole match

[dusk jacinth]

i want ma melee to make sense in context of my class

axe nevr fits...

[tall torrent]

Axe is just a very reliable workhorse melee

[untold mulch]

Nah, the bottom tier are absolutely easy to see

[umbral scaffold]

My vet looks kinda like a blood pact guardsman just not red, so an axe does fit my class imo

Running around collecting skulls is absolutely what I’m all about

[dusk jacinth]

fuck axe!!

shovel all da way babey

[umbral scaffold]

I would if I could

[dusk jacinth]

no not like dat

[desert hawk]

I didn't see chain sword in that list

[tall torrent]

I absolutely adore the brutal simplicity of the combat axes’ move sets in this game

[dusk jacinth]

im waiting till fattyshark just adds blood pact guardsman with their gross masks and everyone gets mad

[tall torrent]

Zero flair whatsoever

[dusk jacinth]

i want my melee to make sense contextually

shovel for vet

uhh

rapier for psyker

shit like dat

[tall torrent]

It’s good at almost everything but not great at anything?

[umbral scaffold]

Chainsword is definitely a melee weapon of all time

[kind scarab]

Chainsword is great for lower tier content, because there's so little spawns it can deal with everything equally

But once you're out of t3, the fanfare of a chainsaw blade runs out quickly

[tall torrent]

Is knife worth running for vet rn

[umbral scaffold]

Why are people iffy on power sword 3 now

[charred gyro]

Can someone confirm that if I edit a power sword blessing to add power cycler 3 to it, I can later on just rebless it with power cycler 4 when I find it without using another edit slot, so to say?

[tall torrent]

Yes

[charred gyro]

Thanks!

[kind scarab]

Absolutely nothing wrong with it. I prefer it over the PS6 personally, cause i only whip that shit out vs hordes or elites.

The faster activation and heavy cleaves are just comfier for me personally.

[zealous wyvern]

maelstrom is hard

[kind scarab]

Depends on the modifiers, it can be

And it esp depends on the team

[zealous wyvern]

mutants and shocktroops

we had 3 veterans who all had sharpshooter perks so

yes

[kind scarab]

Sounds like it should have went well, if any of them could aim

[zealous wyvern]

really?

i felt like we had way too bad wave clear

the hordes just locked us down and i could not aim for specials with a lasgun mid melee combat

we made it through though but just so

[sly mist]

Advice on this plasma? Am I replacing both both blessings with gets hot and something else?

[umbral scaffold]

Throw me in there and chaos would simply be no more

I’m built different

[zealous wyvern]

KILL CHAOS

[meager remnant]

Any opinions on braced autoguns? Really dont like how its ineffective long range

[umbral scaffold]

We won’t even go extract we’d head straight into the warp and kill nurgle himself

[zealous wyvern]

i do not think you have the authority for that

we have a job to do

[umbral scaffold]

The emperor personally told me that I am the greatest threat to chaos and that he’s only a pale imitation of me

[kind scarab]

I actually fairly prefer the slower heavies on the PS3, simply because if it were any faster enemies would never be in range to cleave through them

[dusk jacinth]

lies

emperor told me

ur a goober

[kind scarab]

I already have to walk myself forward between heavy swings if I'm holding an area alone

[umbral scaffold]

Emperor told me you’re lying

Emperor wouldn’t lie to me

[kind scarab]

Emperor wouldn't talk to you either

[umbral scaffold]

Yea probably

Since he’s a rotten corpse

Death to the false emperor

[zealous wyvern]

ah

[random cobalt]

guys what is your Mk III helbore setups

[dusk jacinth]

emperor came into ma drteams

and said

'goofy goober'

real

[hollow turtle]

Starcraft wants their guns back.

[dusk jacinth]

need me a blood pact guardsmen

time to add that recolor mod and just make all my gear red and gold

i always thought it was weird that they added an entire new lore bit just to justify darktied enmies

instead of just using blood pact or something

[trim steppe]

what lore is new? Idk 40k lore very well

[dusk jacinth]

moebian

sixth

blood pact guardsmen would b way cooler then moebian sixth thats all im saying

but also rejects would probably get their shit kicked in

[hollow turtle]

🤔 They are new, but I'd imagine that's the reason why 40k is as large as it is; Thousands of worlds just gives creative freedoms. Hence why even people on tabletop can paint their own custom regiments and its still pretty in line with the setting.

[dusk jacinth]

moebian sixth dont have enuf about them to be much of anything other then 'those guys in darktide'

skaven had a fuckton of shit behind them

[umbral scaffold]

It’s basically just a home brew traitoris militarum army

[dusk jacinth]

basoca;;y

bascially

you'd think nurgle cultist guardmens would look way more gnarly

[umbral scaffold]

I think it’s implied the moebians are undivided

And the dregs are the nurglers

[dusk jacinth]

all they get for chaos mutations are missing extremities

[umbral scaffold]

You can hear the bruisers yell “for the dark gods” when they’re about to attack you

[dusk jacinth]

and looking like fallout ghouls

[dusk jacinth]

moebian sixth wil probabl get more lore

i want

hanging guts!!

i want!!!

boils!!

[cloud leaf]

guy on the left is sexy

[dusk jacinth]

you'd think they'd just melt into goop by being close to anything nurgle related

let alone a fuckung hhhh

[umbral scaffold]

Your standards are in hel my friend

[dusk jacinth]

nurgle slug

[valid bluff]

Powersword with only PC1 worth using?

[dusk jacinth]

i want ma enemies 2 look cool

[valid bluff]

Or do you need both +2 extra chained hits to be worthwhile

[cloud leaf]

hes got an intact nose thats enough for me

[umbral scaffold]

If it’s what you have use it but I didn’t think there was a pc1

[valid bluff]

I guess I mean PC3

[dusk jacinth]

also fuck u!!

[valid bluff]

but my brain was like, there is only two tiers of it

[dusk jacinth]

they are related to nurgle

get those guys some boils and open midsections

[willow spruce]

Holy cow, nwo I gotta play Darktide with some of that StarCraft soundtrack now

Ragnarock'n'roll

[umbral scaffold]

That’s the star of chaos

The warhammer 40k fan wiki is kinda scrapped together like an ork war machine

[valid bluff]

Workable I guess

Block effeciency to Maniac, then maybe hold the other to upgrade power cycler to 4 when I get it?

[trim steppe]

Yeah I'd leave yourself open to swapping out PC to T4 whenever you find it, tho you might have a better PS by then cuz it might be a while

[valid bluff]

we love power cycler being mandatory

(:

[trim steppe]

I think you could replace either perk with maniac. Block could be useful occasionally. Weak spot damage is pretty bad as far as I know so you might drop it instead

I remember the glorious week where power cycler gave like +50 swings. Yeah it was broken but it was so fun

[junior needle]

I'm inclined to think they wanted to get rid of cycler before, but tons of people had already spent a truly absurd amount of time/effort chasing it and there would've been a massive (justified) shitfest if they just deleted it without compensation (assuming they could) or changed it into something less good.

[trim steppe]

That is likely lol

[junior needle]

So now it's there as a tax to use the weapon

fatshark problem solving

[valid apex]

Cycler is shit and should be baseline. Even then it doesn’t feel good hitting it repeatedly imo

[trim steppe]

Seriously would be nice if they just finally unlock crafting. Everyone would be able to experiment more, they'd be able to make bigger balances without screwing everyone and bricking their weapons they spent months finding

[junior needle]

Whole weapon just needs a redesign to make it less grating to play, regardless of whether it's good or not. Much like the chainaxe

[trim steppe]

Everyone who wants god-tier weapons has them, they just can't play with 95% of the game's content because its so difficult and expensive to find anything

[ember folio]

Best revolver blessings and perks?

[trim steppe]

Or at least let us spend our diamantine on big weapon buffs like upgrading stats or getting a third unlock. I have like 30k diamantine and my pile just keeps getting bigger

[trim steppe]

surgical and hand-cannon for blessings. prolly flak and maniac for perks

i think perks are more dependant on usecase

[fallen geyser]

what should i change about this?

[tall torrent]

shattering impact -> blaze away

crit chance -> specific armor dmg u want?

[drifting oak]

man why can't all maelstroms be this smooth

[fallen geyser]

Maniacs probably?

[trim steppe]

i put carapace and unyeilding on mine, i dont feel like maniacs gives me any good breakpoints

[fallen geyser]

lol whats a breakpoint?

[trim steppe]

like making a kill take 2 shots instead of 3

[low wadi]

is there some viable vet mele build?

[fallen geyser]

ah right

tah 🙂

[ember folio]

do you want to play zealot, by chance?

[tall torrent]

yea, go bottom right until the 15% atk speed node

[slim sand]

oh yeah

[low wadi]

with what weps?

[trim steppe]

beautiful

[tall torrent]

power sword 6
combat axe 2, 5 and 8
devil's claw 4 (1 for pure horde clear, 7 also ok)
shovel

[slim sand]

i now have one on my vet and zealot

basically the same

[dusk jacinth]

im gonna put ma star of chaos up ur butt pal!!!

[low wadi]

thx

[tall torrent]

@low wadi

[trim steppe]

whats the rundown on PS3 vs PS6?

[valid bluff]

Well one game on powersword and I'm already not loving it

just feels very jank

[low wadi]

ok i use the caxe on my zealot so should work, vet was nice when i played with my friends but when i play with randoms they just run away eveywhere

[trim steppe]

I like mine ok. Gotta get used to the rhythm of dodging back to charge then chaining heavies into everything, repeat

[low wadi]

so thought id go more mele oriented, maybe with stealth even

[junior needle]

A lot of people feel that way. It's definitely a lot to get used to now that it only has 3 swings max instead of 5~. I'm used to constantly dodging side to side and trying to go back to PS where the side dodges BLOW is difficult.

[hollow turtle]

Real "Fuck you Hadron" moment.

[junior needle]

Shame about the raking fire

[slim sand]

what do you mean shame

raking fire is great

[junior needle]

[umbral scaffold]

shredder autopistol good or nah

[junior needle]

Great for bulwarks and beasts of nurgle

[ionic loom]

@mortal flame get on m8 we need them mats

[slim sand]

not even just those

you know its a 180 degree angle behind the enemy right?

[lavish hamlet]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1BWTtFkzO3xs9J/d1337gbA0y7U?invite=cr-MSxWWjEsMTgxODMyMjkzLA

[junior needle]

Ah yes, maniacs if they miss you are fine too

[umbral scaffold]

did u guys say only laspistol and revolver were good or shredder autopistol too

[lavish hamlet]

shredder is good still

[junior needle]

Shredder is a shadow of its former self

[lavish hamlet]

not the untouchable god it was, but still good

[umbral scaffold]

ooo ok but its no laspistol

got it

[junior needle]

Haven't used it at length since the nerfs but it felt like dogshit when I did

[umbral scaffold]

omg omg omg

look what I got

Wait that's crappy surgical isn't it...

great...

[dusk jacinth]

i had dis

wtf so low resolotuin

nevr used it doe

becaus helbore sucks........

[junior needle]

I do, but enemies have a strong tendency of running towards you by default or retargeting you if you attack them if they weren't already. While it has a strong circumstantial benefit, it's reliant on taking infiltrate/having cooperative enemy AI/beneficial map layout to get value out of it.

I'd consider the extra amount of hoops to jump through to drag down its average value and I'm not fond of the playstyle changes. That said the IAG's don't have particularly useful blessings so it's not like you're giving up much on them for it.

[slim sand]

you dont have to take infiltrate to use it

[junior needle]

Helbores are great, they just have a jank playstyle that a lot of people don't like.

[junior needle]

You don't, you don't need to ever aim at any backs to have it on your gun either, but it's better if you do.

[dusk jacinth]

helbores sUCK!!!!!!!!!

mxii meta for life...

[ruby totem]

What sort of jank playstyle are you referring to? sorry

[junior needle]

Oh whoops. Charging

[dusk jacinth]

darktide attack on titan collab when

[ruby totem]

Oh

That's fair I guess. I like the Helbores more than the XII at least

[junior needle]

They're very strong right now, with surgical being how it is.

and also shocktrooper

[ruby totem]

If I'm gonna use an infantry las I'd rather take the Ia or the IV

imo

But really I've been a plasma main for the last year I'm likely gonna stay that way lol

[junior needle]

k12 is undoubtedly the best if you're cracked at consistently headshotting. But for those who aren't (most people in the game) or just don't like the playstyle, the other infantry lasguns are better.

[stiff pasture]

They also are extremely punishing

[junior needle]

Punishing for heretics.

[ruby totem]

I just find that the XII really suffers when you have people who bring a lot of explosives

[junior needle]

The pull out time is certainly another factor of jank, but fatshark has taken the regrettable path of using that to balance weapons.

Which is why I don't like using bolter either

[stiff pasture]

And for bad shots

[ruby totem]

I had a match with 2 Ogryn's that only used their grenade launchers and I really just felt like I was useless lol. Couldn't see or headshot anything

[junior needle]

Depends on the version, mk2 can fire like a k12 with uncharged shots (and only a bit slower with a stacked onslaught). hb3 is definitely punishing for bad shots, but with surgical you're actually rewarded for taking your time and even if you miss, shocktrooper has you covered with free ammo.

[umbral scaffold]

what % stats should I look for on the power sword?

[ruby totem]

I'm better at headshotting with my plas than an XII and idk how

I guess projectile size maybe idk

[junior needle]

Probably projectile size, also headshot priority makes it so that if you clip the head area (even around the chest) it's a headshot.

[ruby totem]

I usually stick my crosshair at the very top of the head's outline so maybe that's it

[umbral scaffold]

um

[junior needle]

That also works, as long as it's in the area

[umbral scaffold]

is critical bonus important on the revolver

[dusk jacinth]

when will vets be able to dress like this

[junior needle]

Fairly important since it affects your crit damage and revolvers run surgical last I checked?

[umbral scaffold]

ooo ok.

what about reload speed

[ruby totem]

going back, I find helbores feel like they have a lot less suppression when under fire, making headshots more reliable

Suppression is usually where I suffer the most on infantry lasguns

[junior needle]

infantry las tends to jump around a ton when you rapid fire, whereas helbores barely have recoil.

[umbral scaffold]

is it worth reblessing my devil mk4 sword for t1 surgical

[junior needle]

Surgical on a melee weapon?

[umbral scaffold]

oops I meant for my helbore*

my current helbore:

[junior needle]

Reload speed I assume is decently important because the reload is fairly long but I don't use revolvers so I may not be the most up to date source

[ruby totem]

the new scalpel melee wep

[junior needle]

Hmm, well it's unfortunate that you're stuck choosing between maniacs and surgical. I'd say surgical has more overall value as it's stupidly good on the 3.

Sustained fire is more or less useless

[umbral scaffold]

t1 surgical tho

[junior needle]

You're gonna want (and get) t4 eventually anyway

Even t3 works well

[umbral scaffold]

so not worth reblessing my helbore with t1 then right

[junior needle]

You'll still get much more value from it than sustained fire, especially if you're prone to holding your shots longer

You only have one change left and that's probably going to be used for surgical down the road regardless

[tall torrent]

+2 stamina on a helbore 3 is peak hadron trolling

[junior needle]

More juice for deadshot

[zealous wyvern]

love it

[light nest]

voice of command is a support skill

[glacial forum]

I feel like Auto Weapons are just the way to go now for Vet', Precision Weapons are nise but - Not having to aim in a crowd of 500 targets is just better rly

[light nest]

dont forget the revolver is a 'precision' weapon

a fucking pocket 50. bmg homemade assault canon that has best in class mobility, pullout time and damage

[glacial forum]

Revolver is a outlier

Get Handcannon and such and its useful.

[light nest]

i love how the revolver plays

i just wish it didnt make the bolter feel like a fucking bb gun in comparison

bolter is just eh now

[glacial forum]

Vraks Headhunter is fun as well, but the MG12 just feels eh.

The Vraks does a better job than the 12.

[light nest]

basically every weapon that was good pre patch 13 is now average to 'eh'

with the exception of the revolver which was good prepatch and now it's stupid

[glacial forum]

And its not unviable, the MG12, there's just far better options.

[light nest]

hardly any weapon is 'unviable' now

i think i can only say that about shredder autopistol

[silk sleet]

Does "Gets Hot" apply to melee?

[light nest]

anything else you can make work in auric

[umbral scaffold]

I really dislike the ammo nerf

[umbral scaffold]

true but then in the future i wont be able to replace it

I have 80% ammo on my mg 12 but without the ammo talent it’s only about 600 rounds

[glacial forum]

Yeah - I just wish the Lasgun had something going for it. After using the Vraks it just makes me go: "Man, I really wish I was using the Vraks"

[junior needle]

You can replace things in your changed slots infinitely

[glacial forum]

I think my favorite lasgun is ehh

"THE BLUE ONE"

Which fires as fast as U can press M1

[junior needle]

You could change that unyielding to any perk, any amount of times for example. Same with blessings.

[glacial forum]

Ammo Nerf is kinda wack but /shrug. I still make do.

[burnt flame]

is impact force on the mk8 important?

[junior needle]

mk8 what

[humble sparrow]

Stealth autogun is hella fun for damnation runs

Stealth has saved many games

[junior needle]

Stealth is very busted currently

Just for pickup potential alone

[umbral scaffold]

It is but my build is very critical focused with the perk that takes no ammo for crits on lasguns

So sometimes I end a game with max ammo and not taking a single ammo pickup

[umbral scaffold]

ooooooo so I can change it to t3 later anyway?1

I guess fartshart gave some consideration to us lasgun chads

[glacial forum]

Yeah - That "Grim Reaper" build they were showing on the launcher is actually really good.

[junior needle]

Yes, or something else altogether. Any amount of times.

[glacial forum]

Carried a lot of games with it on Auric-HI-Int Shocktroop

[burnt flame]

the kantrael MG 12, sorry. not mk8

[umbral scaffold]

wowza

[junior needle]

You mean stopping power? Extremely important, as it affects your damage to various armor types.

[burnt flame]

i see

[glacial forum]

Who needs stopping power when U got 4 MG12's shooting the same target

[junior needle]

You can press v to inspect the weapons, and hover over the stats to see what they do.

[burnt flame]

so this is a good roll then yes?

[umbral scaffold]

Yes

[desert hawk]

inb4 hadron slams you with tier 2

[humble sparrow]

Yes

[umbral scaffold]

Good stats and over 270 rating

That’s a good roll right there

Upgraded fully to gold you’d be pushing max rating

[junior needle]

270 rating

[gray belfry]

woe t3 upon ye

[umbral scaffold]

My bad frain Bart

[burnt flame]

frain

[desert hawk]

Respite and Infernus

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-joke-ranier-wolfcastle-mc-bain-the-simpsons-stand-up-comedy-gif-4372917

[desert hawk]

here it comes

[umbral scaffold]

what should i change about this

[junior needle]

Pretty good, just keep in mind for some guns there's breakpoints they can only reach at max or near max damage/stopping power. Also that only the modifier rating matters and not the final one.

[umbral scaffold]

i gotta see if i can still modify it

would u guys dabble in this sword:

[junior needle]

Blessings are scuffed, you only have one change left and both are essentially useless

Also you don't want stopping power that low

[umbral scaffold]

Yea I never liked the blessings but efficiency isn’t totally awful

[junior needle]

It's pretty useless on a gun that already has great ammo economy, and doesn't help at all during fire fights

Though probably more useful than falter

[umbral scaffold]

Efficiency should be buffed to grant ammo as well because you have a point of it otherwise being poop

[umbral scaffold]

A chance to refund ammo anything would make it more useful

[serene sage]

Honestly, the odds are nice I'll be rescued

[junior needle]

Stats are fine, infested isn't entirely useless but 2/4 aren't looking great. Wrath isn't a good pickup on it. I'd slam it but I have a fair amount of resources.

[umbral scaffold]

ah ok so not really that good got it

[umbral scaffold]

My vet would slaughter my kidnappers with a shovel and a lasgun with scuffed blessings

[serene sage]

If my Vet comes trying, I'll be okay 👍👍

We clutch

[junior needle]

Not yet. You can upgrade it to purple and see if you get a scuffed perk.

[umbral scaffold]

I’m so attracted to my vet I think Slaanesh calls my name whenever I see him

[serene sage]

Mine would go with a Chainsword and Bolter

[umbral scaffold]

hmm

[serene sage]

Both weapons are "mildly" OP in this world

[valid apex]

Same

[umbral scaffold]

My sexual attraction to my vet is downright heretical

[valid apex]

Your vet I mean

[serene sage]

Down bad?

[umbral scaffold]

i am downbad for him

why is there no female ogryn

they look and sound the same as male ones

[serene sage]

Them stache though

How are Ogryns made

Do they y'know

[umbral scaffold]

absolutely

BOC

[serene sage]

Or are they var growned

[umbral scaffold]

big ogryn CO-

[gusty sonnet]

Because they didnt want to make 2 models on a class they'd knew would be least played.

[serene sage]

They just need to buff the kickback more and most played guaranteed

[tall torrent]

@formal lake if I have a Rashad axe that gets >75% on everything except mobility but I have:
20% maniac
15% sprint efficiency
Headtaker 2
Decimator 3

What should I change
I’m leaning towards upgrading both blessings unless the unarmored breakpoint is hugely beneficial in breakpoints

[umbral scaffold]

least played?

[gusty sonnet]

I enjoy playing ogryn, but that doesnt change the fact that most people dont want to play as a giant moron

[umbral scaffold]

with how often my shots end up hitting a giant mans chocolate starfish i doubt it too

[ruby totem]

Is kickback the GL or the shotty?

[gusty sonnet]

Yeah ogryn has the least mainstream appeal. Its the same reason as to why League dont make monster champions anymore and only models instead.

[ruby totem]

most people do regardless of their class

[junior needle]

[forest scaffold]

change headtaker to brutal momentum, sprint efficiency to flak

[umbral scaffold]

ok what blessing should i replace falter with

[serene sage]

Shotty. It's bonker rn

[ruby totem]

The single shell shotty is fun af

[tall torrent]

What specific breakpoints does that give me

[ruby totem]

feels great and animations are nice

[forest scaffold]

Maulers and flak ragers

[serene sage]

It is. I use it to horde clear ngl

[umbral scaffold]

ill just take the L with efficiency i still love this lasgun

[forest scaffold]

Opening Salvo

[serene sage]

Just spam it to where the clump is

[hollow turtle]

Probably my new favorite look for a lasgun.

[serene sage]

And watch everything disappear

[forest scaffold]

That stopping power is sadge

[tall torrent]

Is decimator 3 even good to compare to headtaker, considering I have both BM4 and HT4 unlocked

[umbral scaffold]

what does impact do

[serene sage]

Sick, but like actually

[tall torrent]

Doesn’t it take loads of swings to build up stacks

[forest scaffold]

Decimator is 10% that stacks 5 time

[gusty sonnet]

Crysis vibes

[forest scaffold]

headtaker is 8% that stacks 5 times

I think?

[lavish hamlet]

can someone explain how I set this off when the other 2 didnt? https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1C4Kf7sGgnMqdV/d1337K2xshzo?invite=cr-MSx5RWcsMTgxODMyMjkzLA

[hearty panther]

Decimator is 5% 10x

[forest scaffold]

I can't recall off the top of my head

[lavish hamlet]

I dont quite understand what mistake I made here

[forest scaffold]

V to inspect weapon, hover over stopping power

[untold mulch]

DH didn't like your cut G

[umbral scaffold]

i dont think stopping power impacts damage of the enemies only impact and the stagger

[forest scaffold]

its a damage multiplier against flak, unyielding, and maniac I believe

[lavish hamlet]

that's sure what it felt like

[tranquil moth]

Just wanted to thank the people earlier for sending me some tips, I finally got it done and it feels 👏 @valid apex @tall torrent @calm vine

[tall torrent]

Decimator 3 is like 4% but requires continuous chain, up to 10 times

Headtaker 4 is 5% for every hit stacks 5 times

[forest scaffold]

You can build multiple stacks of decimator in one swing

[fickle wraith]

HOW ARE WE FEELING TODAY BOYS

@tall torrent

[umbral scaffold]

ew

[serene sage]

I'm not sure either. Was there a stealth person that triggered it maybe

[junior needle]

Looks like it took damage from something, it started with a chunk of health missing

[forest scaffold]

So its double the power and comes online faster than headtaker

with brutal momentum, that is.

[tall torrent]

Nice
Let’s see if hadron trolls

[tall torrent]

Ah ok

[lavish hamlet]

I think that's from when it stood up initially

[valid apex]

But also drops a lot more easily.

[lavish hamlet]

If that was the case it shouldnt have gone after me

they fixed that in p14

[junior needle]

All the teammates were visible so it wasn't that, and infiltrate doesn't keep it from attacking you if you aggro it anymore.

[serene sage]

I know. But knowing FS

[hearty panther]

It's per swing only now.

[lavish hamlet]

yea fair enough

but no one was invis, you can see them all in the clip

[junior needle]

[fickle wraith]

so far its dogshit

do i just grab falter

or try to risk

[hearty panther]

So ten stacks to maximize its value, you can keep the buff for 1.5s or so after your last swing to block or push or even shoot some dummy with your revolver. You just can't miss a swing.

[umbral scaffold]

is this GREAT or NAY

[hollow turtle]

There'll be more falters

[fickle wraith]

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

WUJU LOOK AT THAT

[umbral scaffold]

nice

[untold mulch]

Nice

[fickle wraith]

gonna earn blessing real quick

[forest scaffold]

They patched that.

[fickle wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-click-nice-man-guy-gif-21933845

[forest scaffold]

It holds onto stacks when you whiff

Oh, no

It holds stacks if you block

Dunno if it holds stacks if you whiff

(probably not)

[hearty panther]

Negative

[fickle wraith]

actually is the sword itself good stats or nah?

[junior needle]

It's ok, you generally don't want to dump finesse because it's attack speed as well as crit/weakspot damage.

[untold mulch]

Personally save the blessing, which is the hardest part

[tall torrent]

Low finesse & cleave dmg
Time to harvest

[astral blade]

heh ya whats kinda funny about my current build for vet

[tranquil moth]

Btw what blessing are top for mk 3 power sword?

[tall torrent]

Power cycler
Brutal momentum

Have to have both

[astral blade]

i gotta get extremely reckless thank god i've got invis

[tall torrent]

Good luck

[ruby totem]

I'm never going to get power cycler 4

[tranquil moth]

Well I'll test out this one I have with slaughter and sunder and just the sword itself. I'm a parry fiend but kinda want to try other melee. Anyway sorry for tangent and thanks for the info.

[tall torrent]

Power Cycler IV is a must-have for power swords
And then brutal momentum is just really strong

[valid apex]

https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-you-anakin-star-wars-gif-10358450

[gray belfry]

aylmao nice

[proud solar]

aight fellas I need some opinions here

What melee weapon would John Darktide use?

[gray belfry]

chainsword

[proud solar]

Then it will be so

[forest scaffold]

Strong no.

Slaughterer>Brutal Momentum

But Brutal momentum IS competitive with slaughterer

Its equal value dining on the Power Sword now with those two blessings.

[ruby totem]

John Darktide should use his fists

[forest scaffold]

Power Cycler remains the bread and butter of the build.

[proud solar]

I have created the legend

[tall torrent]

BM is the difference between one hit killing 4 bruisers vs killing 1

[gray belfry]

there he is. its John Darktide

[forest scaffold]

Infinite stagger makes this irrelevant

And you can carry slaughterer stacks onto maulers and ragers

which absolutely changes your TTK

[gray belfry]

i got t4 rampage on my ps6, it does the trick enough lmao

[tall torrent]

BM still gives better breakpoints I think

[ruby totem]

BM
lol.

I am a child

[silk sleet]

I have one pretty identical. Its fun for me if you play conservatively with ammo.

[serene sage]

Children should not play this game smh my head

[ruby totem]

I faked my parent's signature on the EULA

[serene sage]

Dman you're hardcore

[ruby totem]

I don't use my assigned seating on the bus 😎

[serene sage]

The Emperor favors child soldiers anyway

[serene sage]

She's a menace to society

[devout atlas]

Manifesting Flechette 4 and Power Cycler 4 at Melks

[elder vessel]

The King

[devout atlas]

You sayin BM is good.... Damn I got a godroll waiting for Power Cycler 4 with maxed BM 🤤

[gray belfry]

woe t2 full bore upon ye

[devout atlas]

stabs you in the gut until you end up in #zealot-class

[gray belfry]

ew zealot

[junior needle]

One shot bulwark on a crit or noncrit? Because that one video you posted had a crit and I couldn't get it on a noncrit with mine.

[rigid rampart]

Gloryhunter any good ?

[junior needle]

Forgot about the extra one there

[gray belfry]

do i buy some plasma guns and try for t4 gets hot or save my dockets to get the crucian wastes camos

[tall torrent]

@formal lake what are ur thoughts

[devout atlas]

plasma guns

[serene sage]

ew zealot

Hate those guys

[devout atlas]

Zealots popping relic like

[gray belfry]

legit dont enjoy it. ive had some entertaining moments with the TH but i just cant stick with them for longer than maybe 3 games

[tall torrent]

Keep maniac & sprint efficiency?

Decimator doesn’t compete vs headtaker that well?

[ruby totem]

I've come around on the XII

[serene sage]

I just can't seem to top frag on them so I hate zel

[tall torrent]

So maniac & sprint efficiency are fine?

[gray belfry]

lmao fair. i also find it more entertaining being the average soldier man against demonic horrors beyond my comprehension over a very shouty priest

[tall torrent]

Why is sprint efficiency great

[strange grove]

its not

[gray belfry]

what blessings are the best to gofor on a mk 2 combat axe anyway

[tall torrent]

BM + headtaker/decimator

[gray belfry]

aight

[tall torrent]

I don’t get it

[serene sage]

Maybe I should learn to play axe

[fickle wraith]

i just bought it from the shop and it was green so i was liek fuck it ill upgrade once

[serene sage]

But CS Bolter is such an iconic combo

[fickle wraith]

these good on combat axe? should i earn any?

[grizzled shale]

revolver vet feels good

[fickle wraith]

this was just a spit in the face by hadron

[tall torrent]

If that’s the achlys axe, all or nothing is good

[fickle wraith]

it is the achlys yes

@tall torrent

should i earn the blessing then?

[tall torrent]

Yea

[fickle wraith]

its achlys 8

mk8

[tall torrent]

AoN is very high value on achlys axe

But

[fickle wraith]

the axe itself is garbo cuz of that deplorable penetratio

[tall torrent]

12% penetration is peak emperor trolling

[fickle wraith]

i doubt thats a dump stat

yeah

LMAO

both perks are also good too

AoN>shred tho?

since i can only earn 1 blessing

[tall torrent]

Shred meh

AoN is at least useful on achlys axe

[fickle wraith]

ait

aon it is

done

whats the other 1 with power cycler for swords btw?

[sharp ember]

why specifically achlys?

[fickle wraith]

BM something?

what does it stand for?

[sharp ember]

Brutal Momentum?

[fickle wraith]

ty

[tall torrent]

Because achlys’s horde clear combo requires u to spam push attack to reset the heavy into the starting cleave

So within 3 combos you’re at near zero stamina

[sharp ember]

ah funny sweep, does it cleave yet? last I checked it had poor cleave

[tall torrent]

Take BM

Aim head

[fickle wraith]

ill try to farm for it

on mk6 i suppose?

idk if mk6 or mk3

i like mk6's lights a lot more

[tall torrent]

Achlys starter heavy is a near perfect horizontal sweep

[serene sage]

I think blessings are shared between mk3 and mk6?

[fickle wraith]

azreal he meant the power sword

they are yes

im just not sure which one id like to invest in

i dont know the mk6 combo

[tall torrent]

Mk6 is the better one rn

[fickle wraith]

im still a new little vuwuteran

i just heard theres a combo for it

[tall torrent]

But mk6 kind of needs u to hold mouse 2 a lot

[fickle wraith]

with like animation canceling

[tall torrent]

It’s a very defensive weapon

[serene sage]

Isn't it just special 3 lights repeat?

[tall torrent]

Doesn’t that chain into activation

[fickle wraith]

was it the mk3 then?

[ruby totem]

Mk VI is the best single target powersword

[tall torrent]

Yea either hold block or dodge back

[astral blade]

this gun requires me to be an ammo goblin lol

[fickle wraith]

hm

i see

[tall torrent]

I find it safer to hold block even when dodging backwards because I’m not used to mk6’s activation timing

[fickle wraith]

is there a dump stat

on mk6?

[junior needle]

Those perks are unfortunate

[slow spade]

damage UwU

[fickle wraith]

cuz i figure mobility is actually important

[astral blade]

playstaion 3???

[fickle wraith]

@slow spade ? UWU?

[slow spade]

Hadron heeded my words