#veteran-class

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frank ether
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and you just do non stop aurics

zenith vector
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imagine being a fun person .... tsk

frank ether
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Ikr struggle

zenith vector
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how am i supposed to work my way up the ladder of capitalism if im fun to be around?

frank ether
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easy

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be broke

zenith vector
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i feel emotionally attacked

frank ether
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too bad, I'm also broke

tacit holly
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What shovel blessings are meta right now. Looking to switch up some melee

frank ether
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I would take uncanny

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and the other is either decimator or the one with weakspot

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a meta chaser wouldnt touch shovel anyways

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so shovel and meta in the same sentence is odd

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but its pretty good

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just not top tier meta weapon kind of good

tacit holly
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Some melee are too good, so want to tone down and change it up

frank ether
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yeah so uncanny I'd say is a must have

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I think it pairs well specialist hunter weapons such as helbores

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so its unironically good for the krieg meme

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honestly I just try not to take boss aggro with it

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just go way back and shoot with helbore

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is how I handle it

tacit holly
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Thank you good sirs

umbral scaffold
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i run bleed stacks on my melee thats what i do most dmg in related to the bosses vs plasma feels odd agaisnt them

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id rather kite the bosses if i can with it ether way than hit sometimes, teamates thatd go down otherwise tbh

balmy flume
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…huh
I managed to use my old Autogun for ranged work now

frank ether
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bosses dont really give you any rewards

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really your focus should be surviving without taking damage

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I think a lot of people tunnel vision into killing them as fast as possible

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doing it cleanly is more important imo

umbral scaffold
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honestly good job on them for not fucking up the paid skins ig this time to[p notch

frank ether
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didnt they add a bunch of recolors this week?

tawdry hull
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its just reskin of the steel legion

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well it is modified a bit

frank ether
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I mean I dont think there is anything wrong with it but its rather cheap

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I still like it

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but part of my problem is that they dont offer those camo patterns for the basic free gear you can buy

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so mix-match is impossible

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and dont get me started on clipping issues

umbral scaffold
tawdry hull
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it is not impossible

frank ether
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with so many chest pieces using the basic vet guard armor you'd think they would take it into account with the head pieces they sell

umbral scaffold
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and well doesnt look just a helmet plus mask slapped with the same colour that it almsot looks liek its one thing

tawdry hull
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i have a lot mix-match o.o

umbral scaffold
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still not gonna buy it tho

slender turtle
tawdry hull
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of course not

umbral scaffold
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kinda just waiting for new penance armour tbh

frank ether
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I dont really mind the cosmetics being low effort I just want them to be nice and provide more camo patterns for the penance earned ones so we can mix and match more freely

tawdry hull
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more weapon camo would b nice too

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for free

frank ether
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weapon and armor both

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its really low effort work

tawdry hull
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not only red and blue

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is there any alternate payed skin for revolver?

formal relic
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does veteran still take increased damage while sprinting?

slender turtle
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Doubt it

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I just want my veteran to have a gas mask that isn't paid for

tawdry hull
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there isone

zenith vector
tawdry hull
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the penance gas mask

slender turtle
tawdry hull
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i got it bacl then

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is it bugged now??

slender turtle
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Been bugged

tawdry hull
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damn

umbral scaffold
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all the penances are doable

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theyre jsut stupidly hard

whole moon
umbral scaffold
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meant the cosmetics ones

tawdry hull
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most of them i got accidently

whole moon
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Most are ok if you have a couple of peeps willing to help you do em

frank ether
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they used to be much harder

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you're having it easy now

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except all the people that abused bugs at release

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%90 accuracy used to be %100

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also you had no private game option

slender turtle
# tawdry hull damn

Resupply penance has people dead stopped right before completing it. Ogryns suffer the fate of having to use base Box of hurt just to get one of their penances

frank ether
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so you'd queue for a game and get a vet that doesnt shoot because they're only here for penance

slow spade
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I guess I'm a MK6 user now

fallen geyser
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whats teh difference between the power swords?

polar charm
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How bad is this?

slender turtle
fallen geyser
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?

slender turtle
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How they swing the weapon

slow spade
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also MK6 can charge while blocking

whole moon
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Mk 3 has sweeps as heavies attacks, diagonals as lights
Mk 6 has diagonals as heavies and sweeps as lights. 6 also activates and slows u, 3 doesn't. 6 does more damage

slow spade
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Mk6 does the funny dps too

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not sure if I like "activate with slow but can block" more than "activate without slow but no block"

little pagoda
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mk6 has better charge animation imo thumbsup_ogryn

slow spade
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true

little pagoda
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It’s also the one with the good push attack right?

whole moon
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You can dodge slide to mitigate the first charge into combat and back dodge to recharge. When your out of dodge your in danger of it fucking you

slow spade
zenith vector
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lets be real

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theres only one true melee weapon

umbral scaffold
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I consecrated the sword, here's the result:

zenith vector
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replace trauma with rampage and switch critical dmg to ... like ... flak or smth

umbral scaffold
zenith vector
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yeah .... crit damage is an awful stat unless you are specifically going for a crit build and even then its only kinda okay

umbral scaffold
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ooo ok

zenith vector
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also goraners and poxwalkers are the main chaff you are susing the sword against anyways

umbral scaffold
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how is vicious slice blessing?

umbral scaffold
zenith vector
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what does it do again?

fading basin
umbral scaffold
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oh

zenith vector
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on what?

umbral scaffold
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no no

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10% melee damage

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to pox and groaners

zenith vector
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i mean vicious slice

umbral scaffold
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ooo

forest maple
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Suggestions on what to change?

umbral scaffold
keen wharf
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this worth getting from the daily shop? hmm i feel like the modifier distribution is kinda doodoo.

zenith vector
umbral scaffold
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every other stat I throw at ppl is like "nah its bad"

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except like 4 different blessings for different builds, theres like nothing thats very good

slender turtle
umbral scaffold
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cuz im still not getting rampage

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maybe i should spam my melk coins for the mystery melk

deep fable
deep fable
torpid hedge
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Whats the best vet build people are running rn

humble sparrow
umbral scaffold
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mk7 headhunter- how important is stabiliy?

humble sparrow
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Stealth autogun has been pretty fun for damnation runs

umbral scaffold
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my current melk shop is trash too

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the worst I've seen

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I regret not spending it a few days ago where there was a transcendent sword with surgical on it

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I could've scrapped it for the blessing

humble sparrow
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Melk shop has let me down 99% of the time

umbral scaffold
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its just there to disappoint

humble sparrow
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I finally got the blessing I wanted after spending over 1 mil and 25k plasteel

harsh merlin
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I am just grabbing green weps there to consecrate

umbral scaffold
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how important is stability on headhunter mk7?

umbral scaffold
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cuz i got a decent one with low stab

humble sparrow
smoky lark
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Kill me

humble sparrow
smoky lark
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Two weeks I dont get a plasma gun better than 350, and this thing shows up and the thermal res is completely bricked

zenith vector
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not even 80% dmg though ... no breakpoints

umbral scaffold
humble sparrow
umbral scaffold
humble sparrow
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The max is 380 (base modifiers)

umbral scaffold
zenith vector
umbral scaffold
zenith vector
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yep

umbral scaffold
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so reforge both blessings

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okay

ancient root
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guess the console player (auric damnation)

midnight mortar
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Yeah I bet their butt hurts from how they do nothing but sit on it apparently.

umbral scaffold
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what do I do after damnation

ancient root
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my death was from the console shooting a poxburster on me too

midnight mortar
elder vessel
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It is finished

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Now

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For the next part of my plan

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Wait till chaxe gets buffed

ancient root
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the difficulty after damnation is playing with a chainaxe

zenith vector
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such a shame that chain axe lights animation lock you

umbral scaffold
midnight mortar
elder vessel
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Auric Damnation Maelstrom

midnight mortar
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High intensity shock troop gauntlet, vent purge, etc.

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And maelstrom has other specific combinations of modifiers to buff enemies.

umbral scaffold
ancient root
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marvelous idk why you're asking questions if he has to answer it 4 times

feral stratus
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Not really

umbral scaffold
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not sure what you mean

midnight mortar
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You can read the descriptions in game for maelstrom and auric modifiers if you want an immediately clear source.

umbral scaffold
ancient root
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whats harder than damnation
auric damnation or maelstrom

idk why that wasnt the end of the convo you've made him type it out 5 times now lol

elder vessel
humble sparrow
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I have a love hate relationship with auric, 75% of the time I run into toxic nerds that speedrun dying first and then talk massive crap

feral stratus
midnight mortar
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Auric's modifiers being guaranteed make it a more reliable source of higher docket payout. Resource spawn ratios are the same as they only rely on difficulty level i.e.Damnation.

ancient root
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if you just want plasteel regular quickplay damnation is the best bet

gray belfry
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aaaaylmao just got t4 power cycler

midnight mortar
umbral scaffold
gray belfry
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on a mk6 sword but still

midnight mortar
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If you want plasteel, regular damnation is your best bet.

frank ether
midnight mortar
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If you want dockets, auric heresy.

ancient root
humble sparrow
feral stratus
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Honest question because i may not pay attention to it. Does the resource gattering is based on dificulty + Quickplay modifier?

gray belfry
feral stratus
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Okay

frank ether
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I suppose

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thats a fair reason

elder vessel
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the heavy attacks are so lame literally the same animation again and again

feral stratus
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I mean

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They are an axe

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How else are you gonna hit the person with?

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The back of it?

humble sparrow
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Haha power sword go brrrrt

elder vessel
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They're are 360 individual angles you can work with

idle carbon
elder vessel
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They don't all have to be angle 0

humble sparrow
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I also love running chain axe

ancient root
feral stratus
humble sparrow
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This conversation is giving me ptsd of high school math

gray belfry
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whats the difference between the 2 power swords anyway

elder vessel
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90 would be the side

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270 being the other side

humble sparrow
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Next we’ll start talking about sin, cosin, and tan

elder vessel
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180 being the bottom

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0 is the top

harsh merlin
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??

feral stratus
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???

elder vessel
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Angles

harsh merlin
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From power rating to angles, sure

idle carbon
bright fjord
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I’ve never used combat axes but I saw a moveset where the Heavy 1 is a horizontal strike, which one is that and is it good?

serene sage
midnight mortar
serene sage
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useless maths smh 😤

ancient root
idle carbon
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my friend, we use the terms "overhead" for attacks coming from above, and "sweeps" or "horizontals" for stuff coming from the sides

harsh merlin
serene sage
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trying to figure out who asked

elder vessel
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Anyway point being Tacky Axes are lame sauce

bright fjord
midnight mortar
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Zoomers these days...

elder vessel
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And there's like 50 of em

serene sage
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maybe we are old

harsh merlin
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I mean sure, sorry for not getting the joke lol

humble sparrow
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Oh no

serene sage
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does anyone

humble sparrow
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Im old

serene sage
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want to carry me in damnation

gray belfry
humble sparrow
idle carbon
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it's a decent axe from what I've gathered

wind bone
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plasma gun is very strong this patch

serene sage
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im off classing

serene sage
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if im on vet idc

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but im on ogryn

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😦

bright fjord
gray belfry
idle carbon
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brutal momentum

serene sage
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your mom is better

bright fjord
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Ah

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Right

midnight mortar
elder vessel
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Listen
MK3 heavies are literally back and forth sweeps at a perfect straight line

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Ez headshots

celest vine
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YES

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YES

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ALMSOT PRRFECT

candid bridge
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what blessings are best for the revolver?

harsh merlin
celest vine
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1 POINT OFF FROM 550 rating

elder vessel
idle carbon
celest vine
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Basically a perfect roll

serene sage
celest vine
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Hadron slot machine worked for once

harsh merlin
ancient root
frank ether
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dont listen to mk3 propaganda

celest vine
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I deal like 20 less damage for double the fire rate

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Thats a straight upgrade

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(Except unyielding its kinda poo against those)

elder vessel
south hazel
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i really like the semi auto and burst auto rifles

humble sparrow
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I

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Want

celest vine
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Brunt gave me the gun as a profane

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Hadron blessed me with the rolls

gray belfry
manic badger
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actually SO SICK OF HADRON

south hazel
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the burst ones have like zero recoil and you can use them to shred through hordes in a pinch

celest vine
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PRAISE THE OMNISIAH

manic badger
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LIKE ONE PERK OFF

south hazel
celest vine
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Broooo

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You gotta drink some whiskey first

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Then hadron eill be noce to you

manic badger
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mod that hacks the game and removes the locks on weapons when

celest vine
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Mod that fixes the bugs when?

humble sparrow
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I scream at toasters for an hour before blessing my weapons

celest vine
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They gotta let bethesda modders take a crackk at it

near wyvern
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Ah yes

humble sparrow
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On medication, the toasters will suffice

near wyvern
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Potion of Instant Unconsciousness

celest vine
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Bourbon

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Naaaah hadrron loves it when you concentrate drunk

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Id know

dark sorrel
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thoughts?

zinc surge
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ive put thrust and skullcrusher on mah shovel but wondering if decimator or potentially take a swing would be more optimal?

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instead of skull crusher

forest blaze
# dark sorrel

You want damage and stopping power as high as you can get it, then the other 3 stats need to be good since none of them are dump stats.

Perks you’ll want are +unyielding, +flak, or +maniac

manic badger
# dark sorrel

you need 78/78 minimum stopping power and damage to hit all breakpoints on plasma guns

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the ideal plasma gun is 78/78 stopping power/damage and then 71-73% charge rate because this games code is fucky and due to server tick rate your charged shot will actually do less damage if the charge rate is above 73% whatever you get on thermal resistance and ammo is a luxury

wraith locust
tawny badger
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thought the laser sight would fare well on a brauto

manic badger
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for blessings you want gets hot + your choice of blaze away glory hunter or shattering impact its personal preference. the charge rate at low heat also breaks the charge shot damage so

manic badger
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looks like red sand in a glass tube

forest blaze
# dark sorrel

Plasma is one of the guns that you really do want to have certain perks/stats for you to do well with it.

tame lichen
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I guess this means I beat the game huh

forest blaze
ancient root
lusty jetty
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Backend error on login for anyone else? PC if that matters

tawny badger
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get back in there

ancient root
tame lichen
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Oh I have like 10 power sowrds god rolls that dont have cycler 4

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😏

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the real question is MK3 or 6

wind bone
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is rampage better than brutal momentum for mk 6

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i have power cycler 4 and another slot

gritty zenith
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What are the blessings you want on a recon las?

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Melkie has a potentially great one, but I'd need to grind out the melkbux

grave sentinel
tawny badger
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also uh

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after using the laser sight for a bit
turns out you dont get hit markers with it

umbral scaffold
tawny badger
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star wars lookin ass

tame lichen
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looking like a death trooper

grave sentinel
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Except the leg

hollow lion
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love me autogun

sharp ember
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you should be able to configure the color, size and stuff

midnight mortar
gray belfry
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watch it be in the fun bucks shop at some stage

feral stratus
# grave sentinel

Why does it look like a space marine helmet but with the size of a guardsman?

edgy condor
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Is the heavy laspistol good on veteran?

gritty zenith
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Anyone know what blessings recon las want?

sharp ember
gritty zenith
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Think this could be worthwhile?

grave sentinel
tame lichen
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do you even need cleave damage on MK6 powersword if your going for pokes?

midnight mortar
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feral stratus
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They look cool

forest blaze
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I’d love to see some Van Saar themed sets.

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Or Orlock

astral blade
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man VOC is amazing

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shame i dont see allot of vets running it its normally invis or stance

balmy iron
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armory let me buy a curio that was not marked as needing to be level 29 but i can't equip because i'm not level 29 thumbsup_ogryn

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just wanted me 20% hp. god damn servitor

shut vector
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you should simply reach level 30

slim sand
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hmmmmmmm

shut vector
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very nice helbore friendo

slim sand
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its in melks

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thinking about buying it

shut vector
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i mean yeah

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its not like 10000% optimal but it's very close to the best you can get

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i'd grab it

slim sand
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theres this too

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and this as well

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might just get them all

valid apex
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I haven’t seen infiltrate in days

astral blade
elder vessel
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How is invis selfish?

haughty marlin
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melk made me an offer

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finess dump awful or no

elder vessel
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bore axe don't buy

haughty marlin
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tacticool is bad axe?

elder vessel
forest blaze
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I started taking invis so that when the other vet takes invis and pushes all the aggro to me I can pass that aggro to the Psyker

elder vessel
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what happens if all 4 vets go invis at the same time

forest blaze
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Whoever uses invis last wins

languid sparrow
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Which IAG is best lads? I or V?

forest blaze
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Seeing the rager horde run at my vet buddy to just repath towards me happened far too many times for me to not do the same to my Psyker buddies.

languid sparrow
languid sparrow
little pagoda
tawny badger
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how do I say this

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oh nvm Or wat said it for me

astral blade
bronze atlas
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Shout is insanely good its wacky

little pagoda
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oh is there a different meta on your server? All I see is VoC. Didn’t mean to come off abrasive

little pagoda
elder vessel
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Vet Mains installing Patch 13 so they can select Exes Stance, Frag Grenade, and Survivalist

little pagoda
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yeah prime time for auric maelstrom is 3am my time KEKW_ogryn

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otherwise it’s brick town

astral blade
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hence my earlier statement

forest blaze
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Queue for loading screens

slim sand
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and its crazy because it could be better

formal relic
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Is there some trick to the shotguns? They feel significantly weaker than most other options

tame lichen
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if you had to choose, assuming best blessing would it ber Power swrd 3 or 6

little pagoda
delicate moat
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i love silent DH

elder vessel
junior needle
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Even last patch the 2 and 7a weren't good. 6d was great, but was reduced to low tier this patch.

hollow lion
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grinding out autogun rolls is so annoying

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why is it like this sadhelper

upper bramble
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what do people tend to use as dump stat for a catachan

astral blade
junior needle
elder vessel
upper bramble
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Sorry, the sword

elder vessel
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Ah

upper bramble
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Forgot there was also a knife

elder vessel
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no clue

astral blade
elder vessel
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I can tell you rn the devils claws sword is misclassified

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Its actually a knife

astral blade
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literally its always the same

junior needle
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Crab mentioned that the changes were part of a greater rebalance of the recons, but that the actual positive changes didn't come out and only the negative ones did for some reason

junior needle
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So yeah, just don't bother with them until that comes

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They buffed the 2 slightly but it still has shit dps

astral blade
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whats next their gonna nerf the headhunter?

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wouldn't be fragging surprised

spare wolf
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They already did

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For vraks 3

astral blade
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i was talking about all the headhunters in general

tame lichen
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infernus is still shit right?

spare wolf
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I mean

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They did it few times

hearty panther
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Depends on the gun.

spare wolf
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Wouldn't be that surprising to nerf headhunters at some point

hearty panther
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And your loadout, really.

tame lichen
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recon las?

junior needle
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Surgical is probably on the chopping block more than headhunter

spare wolf
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Tbf

hearty panther
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Shocktrooper was kind of a big mistake.

spare wolf
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Surgical isn't even that good

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You have to maintain ADS for fair amount of times

hollow lion
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is this just bricked

junior needle
hearty panther
# tame lichen recon las?

If you pack a lot of crit you can still do Infernus with it. But honestly, the weapon is strongest within 10m ranges, so the close range blessings are going to do way more for you.

ashen hollow
spare wolf
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The only potentially problematic case with it is probably helbore

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But that's it

astral blade
spare wolf
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And even then i don't think it should get nerfed

ashen hollow
junior needle
hearty panther
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Nah I like Surgical as-is. If you're putting time holding your aim to get a crit off, it really should be guaranteed and not just 'more of a chance'. The busted interaction right now is still Shocktrooper.

hollow lion
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this is the one im using right now, guess ill just stick with it then

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bought about 50 of these and keep getting garbage stats

hollow lion
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finally get one and its so bad

ashen hollow
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sadge

hearty panther
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I should not be able to drop four Reapers, eight gunners, and a handful of shooters, just to press R and not have to even reload lmao

hollow lion
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yeah but low stopping power and locked groaners

spare wolf
hollow lion
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hoping to get maniac/flak

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and good blessings

spare wolf
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Never have been far as i know

junior needle
minor iron
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how do we feel about this? i think its toeing the line but i would take suggestions on what perks/bless to swap out

ashen hollow
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keep trying you'll get it sooner or later

spare wolf
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Right that is the also called onslaught

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FFS

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Thanks FS

ashen hollow
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swap limb for BM

minor iron
hollow lion
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ok we cooking

ashen hollow
hollow lion
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only took like 500k dockets lol

minor iron
hollow lion
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going to swap out raking though, dont really like the inflitrate meme

hearty panther
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Man. I dunno what to play. There's still a shitload I haven't tried out since the patch dropped but there's also loads that I already enjoy playing.

ashen hollow
hearty panther
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Maybe tonight I finally do Achlys axe.

spare wolf
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FS posts infiltrate with raking fire as if it's legimate build

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It's just a meme build

ashen hollow
gray belfry
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'mad laughter'

hearty panther
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Did you BM it

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That makes a kind of sense.

junior needle
hearty panther
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I was thinking Deci BM yea

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Maybe Deci HT

minor iron
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if i can only have 1, is flak or maniac damage better?

hearty panther
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Ah fuck

hearty panther
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It's still .0001 cleave lmao

tame lichen
sharp ember
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deci doesn't drop unless you miss, so it isn't as bad as it was

spare wolf
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Very sus

hearty panther
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Maybe I will not Achlys.

junior needle
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Helbore would definitely be shit with onslaught (talent) though

gray belfry
sharp ember
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still takes like a million years to build it if it needs 10 stacks like shovel though

spare wolf
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Gotta love swedish

hearty panther
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Nah you can block now and be fine

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Deci is just a 1.5/2s grace period

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Just don't miss a swing

gray belfry
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now to work on a decent agri shotgun

junior needle
sharp ember
#

i wish cleaving still gave multiple stacks of decimator, building it on shovel was instant

sharp ember
#

it really made missing and dropping deci not a big deal

hearty panther
#

I'd buy that recon

#

We already know they're gonna buff them

junior needle
#

It's not that well rolled in any capacity

hearty panther
#

what

junior needle
#

And you can get a better one from brunts easily

hearty panther
#

what

junior needle
#

You only need like 2 stats maxed on it, damage and ammo

hearty panther
#

Yeah like its already primed

junior needle
#

Has 1 good perk, and 3/4 not good perks/blessings

halcyon zephyr
#

this emperor's gift worth keeping?

civic marlin
#

hello ive been trying for a week now to get the on overwatch challenge can anyone help

junior needle
#

He's better off getting a t4 blessing with it

#

He has no currency saved up

sharp ember
#

oh yeowch I agree with Soldier 69 about that recon

halcyon zephyr
#

agreed

sharp ember
#

It only has flak going for it

jaunty sphinx
#

FINALLY

gray belfry
civic marlin
jaunty sphinx
#

how I felt

halcyon zephyr
jaunty sphinx
junior needle
#

And 2 is the worst one still, even after the buffs they gave it

hearty panther
#

but if you want one

#

That's one you'd buy

#

It's not complex

jaunty sphinx
#

all I have now is make every shot count. not excited. but I will do it. prob with the plasma gun.

halcyon zephyr
#

I have 17000 milk bucks and the shop never has anything over 350 for me

#

I thought i had it bad

hearty panther
#

Yea the only time Melkmoney runs out is when you're just starting off and you literally have nothing so everything he offers looks enticing

halcyon zephyr
#

I thought I was wealthy post "spending a fuckton to get a god roll weapon" and then there's this.

hearty panther
#

It's not long after that that stops being true

#

Hah look at that peasant, Ser Azrael

halcyon zephyr
#

please sir, only have one character

elder vessel
#

Ranged Weeklies on Zealot pain

spare wolf
#

I actually hate getting ranged weeklies when playing zealot

#

For some reason it gives me ogryn/zealot team mates constantly

junior needle
#

Not if you're starting out/don't play nearly as much. Which is very likely if he was thinking about buying that gun.

spare wolf
#

Heh.

#

Btw after i have tried all ranged weapons after the patch i noticed that some weapons are still feel lacking

hearty panther
#

I have been trying really hard not to.

gray belfry
#

i am in immense pain

spare wolf
#

These are -
Columnus braced autogun <- this one i think it requires stopping power modifier just like Agrippina
Shotguns <- Kantrael shotgun isn't too bad to use with zealot but other variants are still poo poo i think. Maybe ammo pool buff?
Recon las(2 and 7) <- It's not super terrible to use them but pretty meh overall tbh
Bolter <- Too many crippling disadvantages compared to plasma gun and it's not even that powerful considering that
Kantrael lasguns <- Mostly fine to use but requires less horizontal recoil overall when ADSd i think
Las pistol <- Not bad but could use more ammo pool

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What do you think shitty take or makes sense

charred epoch
#

Does anyone have a decent talent build for veteran?

elder vessel
fast heart
queen fox
#

how many hrs

tulip ruin
#

First one isn't bad either

gray belfry
fast heart
#

I was running first one since I got my columnus

#

feels good

#

but new parts are cool

umbral scaffold
#

do peeps usually run surgical on headhunter mk7 or nah?

junior needle
#

yes

#

(So I hear)

spare wolf
#

I find that headhunter(blessing)is better for it

fast heart
#

Saveable ?

winter creek
#

Pretty sure shattering impact is broken and doesn’t work

gray belfry
#

'380 shotgun, gets t3 blessing' fuck it in the bin it goes

#

'tbf it was also a 64% damage roll so pain'

flint lake
#

Plasma blessings are, for the most part, insignificant.

gray belfry
#

you wanna try for t4 gets hot and maybe shattering

spare wolf
#

Shattering on plas is useless

#

Blaze away tho

tulip ruin
#

don't really need shattering when you shred them anyways without it

spare wolf
#

Quite good

flint lake
#

A well stat’ed plasma with perfect perks will preform near just as well as a perfect one.

gray belfry
spare wolf
#

They are unyielding tho

#

Not carapace

minor iron
#

is this rashad just straight up better than this antrax in every way? i dislike missing that much penetration on the rashad but the perks and bless probably make up for it

tender bloom
#

I read a post that basically says it is but just have to roll better stats

#

Bc brutal momentum gives you all the cleave you need anyway or something like that

torpid fractal
#

okay what is going on? Has there been some surge of new players just hitting 30 again or something after patch 14? Got the most insane plays in quickplay happening, I forgive all the zealots with the zoomies I used to complain about, today we have the "let's set up camp here for a day, or even maybe move back" players

midnight mortar
#

Console crossplay.

tender bloom
#

Yea it dropped on game pass

midnight mortar
#

And the-yeah.

torpid fractal
#

OH

spare wolf
#

Lmao

torpid fractal
#

all makes sense

midnight mortar
#

Yep.

fast heart
#

Console players

torpid fractal
#

I was just like, what is going onnnn

fast heart
#

got level 46 vet complaining about level 20 zealot

stiff pasture
fast heart
#

zealot fell like once through entire damnation mission

tender bloom
#

I have it on both but it’s pretty crispy on the series x

fast heart
#

meanwhile vet had zero situational awareness

stiff pasture
#

Or plasma

torpid fractal
#

I'm glad knowing I'm not just getting bad luck/going insane though LUL

fast heart
halcyon zephyr
#

is recon still meme tier?

stiff pasture
# fast heart Recon

How do you up fuck up situational awareness on the one line of guns whose whole shtick is being able to rapidly react to other situations

stiff pasture
halcyon zephyr
#

yeah but do those lasers do anything besides distract cats?

#

can I twin-link it with my flashlight yet?

stiff pasture
#

Hah, no

halcyon zephyr
#

whenever I see a vet with it, I assume there'll be no ammo on the map

tender bloom
#

I started using the revolver for the 90% accuracy penance and love it now

frank ether
halcyon zephyr
#

by having no situational awareness

frank ether
#

I mean I kinda get it for helbore vets

spare wolf
#

Recon las isn't that had

frank ether
#

their weapon ads has a fov of like 40

#

and its charge shot

#

but recon lol

halcyon zephyr
spare wolf
#

Eh

#

Fuck this phone

frank ether
spare wolf
frank ether
#

and it makes ammo pickups magically disappear

astral blade
fast heart
#

Columnus infantry

hollow turtle
#

Lol. Genuinely due to the instability, I'm considering it's better to just slap efficiency on this and alter weak spot to flak because there is no way I can get consistent weakspots hits with this.

fast heart
#

I barely see people using it

hollow turtle
#

Or maybe headhunter

midnight mortar
spare wolf
#

Yeah kantrael las gun with bad stability sucks a lot

midnight mortar
#

With stability that low, I'd be looking for another gun.

spare wolf
#

Even with 80 stab tho still too much recoil

#

Who would have thought that laser gun has more recoil than autoguns

fast heart
#

Plasma is stronk

spare wolf
#

Smh

fast heart
#

but I love dakka

midnight mortar
#

It's still high with repeated shots yes, but at 70% stability or above you can pace your shots enough to more or less get followup headshots.

hollow turtle
#

Only deadshot could save this gun.

fast heart
midnight mortar
#

352

fast heart
#

(also why is it yellow)

midnight mortar
#

You can see it on the modifiers section.

hollow turtle
#

I got it like that.

midnight mortar
#

The base rating of the weapon is what it would be at gray.

#

Modifiers

fast heart
#

Dakka my beloved

hollow turtle
#

Auric damnation gives you some strange guns.

fast heart
hollow turtle
#

Ah. That's why I've been seeing a lot of veterans with col v lately.

astral blade
fast heart
#

It's in the name

umbral scaffold
astral blade
#

but that box mag is what interests me

umbral scaffold
#

Probably one of the magazines

#

Stubber ?

astral blade
tame lichen
#

I stopped looking at leaderboard cause it makes me toxic lol

fast heart
#

I believe that's the reason it's not there

tame lichen
umbral scaffold
#

Meh

fast heart
#

and the numbers are subjective

umbral scaffold
#

Would help sone ppl see they need to improve

fast heart
#

we compared with friend and the numbers are different for each player

ripe heart
#

what're the go-to blessings for devil's claw swords anyway?

fast heart
#

Rampage 100%

velvet wraith
#

thoughts

fast heart
#

second is your choice i guess

velvet wraith
#

will hadron brick me on 2nd perk / blessing

halcyon zephyr
dusk idol
ripe heart
#

awesome, thanks!

halcyon zephyr
#

just how hard is auric

dusk idol
#

it’s not that hard

halcyon zephyr
#

as someone who just dicks around in heresy because it's easy

umbral scaffold
#

You have to be there mentally

halcyon zephyr
#

ah

dusk idol
frank ether
#

been trying to keep that to a minimum but I go down at least once every two missions still

dusk idol
#

just switched on

umbral scaffold
#

Take a monster or some sugar and its p easy afaik

fast heart
hearty panther
#

Auric is 'hard'. I only put quotes because the game used to be harder/Rejects were weaker.

dusky flare
#

Depends. If it's high intensity sometimes i just feel like leaving. They gotta remove that from the auric board.

fast heart
#

I think class overhaul made rejects stronger

hearty panther
#

So lately for me Aurics are sort of easy. But they remain engaging, I just win more.

fast heart
#

waaay stronger

halcyon zephyr
fast heart
#

Vet is pretty much Sly Marbo now

halcyon zephyr
#

I wouldn't see that pre-class overhaul

umbral scaffold
#

Nah

dusk idol
umbral scaffold
fast heart
#

But they buffed Director spawns

umbral scaffold
#

Vet in term of constitution is wet cardboard

frank ether
umbral scaffold
#

got headhunter as a blessing for consecrate. So now I can replace the blessing and a perk?

frank ether
#

vet already was strong if anything got nerfed a bit

tawny badger
#

it also made different builds and enabled rejects to actively benefit one-another more often

#

such as with direct support roles

frank ether
#

except shout vet that stuff is disgusting

fast heart
#

it's duable unless it says "Go fuck yourself" and spawns 2000 crushers and same amount of trapper, bombers, flamers in the same time

fast heart
#

nah

umbral scaffold
fast heart
#

gunners are doable

#

I run 3 curios with gunners resists

umbral flame
#

hey guys, curious on your opinions on infantry autoguns and the mk 1 specifically. i've been using this in damnation for a bit and it fuckin' slaps

fast heart
#

-60% damage is huge

frank ether
umbral scaffold
#

I can just interupt any fucking boss and mob plus with plasma i can stop muties in their tracks

fast heart
#

Just go Columnus for infantry

frank ether
#

what do you even do in that situation btw

static lotus
#

I over relying on chainsword and plasma in malestorm i need more fun variation on weapon choices

frank ether
#

you push a burster, a second one pops out of nowhere, now there will be a chain boom

tawny badger
#

just push that one too

umbral flame
#

it feels like the mk 1 can shoot through multiple enemies compared to the others

fast heart
#

Columnus FUCKS

umbral flame
#

and the columnus is the fast shooty one right?

frank ether
tawny badger
#

womp womp

dusky flare
#

columnus has the best single target dps but not great for shooters

frank ether
#

maybe I need a better dodge

#

suddenly mobility is not a dump stat anymore lmao

fast heart
frank ether
#

why not I found it ok for shooty bois

ivory rock
#

Bruh....

fast heart
#

You just left click and they die

tawny badger
#

I am heavy weapons guy

fast heart
#

optionally aim for the head

tacit holly
#

Flos what build with columnus

fast heart
dusky flare
tawny badger
#

waiiii

frank ether
#

I use column on melee vet, it shreds

fast heart
#

But there's room for improvement

frank ether
#

been considering to make another one

fast heart
#

Higher damage/stopping power modifires, higher blessings tiers

frank ether
#

raking fire maybe

ivory rock
#

I am cursed to high mobility everything

frank ether
#

for infil flank meme

tacit holly
#

Still good to run that on shout vet or nah

fast heart
#

it's good on anything

#

even without exec stance it melts

#

but

#

shout

frank ether
#

yea I use it with infiltrate

fast heart
#

shout is more of a uh

#

revolver/plasma thingy i guess

ivory rock
#

Is this okay w the lower stopping power or nah

astral blade
#

whats the go to for plasma gun?

tacit holly
#

I like the team buff aspect, but revolver is getting boring asf

fast heart
tawny badger
#

there's a fucking battery to my laser sight?

tawny badger
#

breh

astral blade
#

guys

#

blessings on plasma gun

fast heart
#

get's hot

tawny badger
#

gets hot and muhfunggenn uhhhhhhh

fast heart
#

the one

#

whatever it's name

tacit holly
#

The thing that does the stuff

fast heart
#

blaze away

astral blade
#

volatile any good?

fast heart
#

nah

gray belfry
#

people say shattering impact to help with bosses, other than that no fucking clue lmao

queen fox
#

i want to try iag

fast heart
#

i heard there's something with low charge rate gives you more damage but i have no idea how it works

queen fox
#

whats the best iag and what stats actually matter on them

fast heart
#

sounds like a bug

queen fox
#

gonna buy a bunch from brunts

fast heart
#

Infantry auto gun?

#

Columnus

dusky flare
#

yeah it's hella bugged. Charge rate should be 70-73 pretty sure

ivory rock
#

Carapace to flak / maniac?

dusky flare
#

for max damage

tacit holly
#

Flos gib your columnus talent built

queen fox
#

columnus mk5?

fast heart
queen fox
#

how should i build around it

#

and what stats matter

fast heart
#

damage > stopping power > everything else

#

this one is way from ideal

#

but gets the job done

queen fox
#

this was the first one i bought from brunt lmfao

fast heart
#

pog

#

keep it

queen fox
#

i figured

fast heart
#

pray for good initial rolls

queen fox
#

ammo/mobility are dump stats as usual?

fast heart
#

Ammo is important

#

mobility least important

queen fox
#

is hadron ruining it

#

i feel like she is

wraith locust
#

its 73 now

fast heart
#

Fire frenzy good

wraith locust
#

lol

#

at least according to grim

#

who i think knows the most about it

queen fox
#

this is what she gave me

fast heart
wraith locust
#

yeap

dusky flare
#

unless you have volatile, then higher charge gives more damage

fast heart
little pagoda
little pagoda
hollow turtle
#

Who sold the wealthy Rogue Trader a gun?

fast heart
#

Swap speedload for dumdum/headhunter

#

I like dumdum because I don't want to rely on headshots

#

and sprint for flak i guess

dusky flare
#

headhunter on columnus?

fast heart
#

one of the choices if you have good aim

#

mine is meh

#

you can never go wrong with kritz

queen fox
#

trashing a big e iag, which one should i keep

dusky flare
queen fox
#

actually what am i saying obv keep sustained fire

fast heart
#

it doesn't?

#

oh you're right

#

mb

astral blade
#

i cant get use to the plasma gun

fast heart
#

Anyways it's one of these

astral blade
#

any advice would be very helpful

wraith locust
little pagoda
#

wait what really

queen fox
#

here it is

wraith locust
#

good plasma takes no skill

fast heart
#

it really is muscle memory breaking gun

wraith locust
#

all the skill is in the crafting process

fast heart
#

get into meatgrinder on damn and try shooting things

zealous wyvern
#

maybe not on damnation

#

just to get used to the slight delay on shots

#

and how fast it heats up

acoustic wyvern
#

I'm starting to like infiltration more and more now

#

Its so useful in auric

fast heart
#

What infiltration even do?

#

It's same stealth from zealot but just for vet?

little pagoda
acoustic wyvern
#

replenesih your toughness and stealths you with increased movespeed

queen fox
#

vets gives no dmg but fills toughness and gives movespeed while invis

#

also lasts longer

astral blade
acoustic wyvern
#

thats also funny cause it does give dmg

queen fox
#

if you put the point in it it does

acoustic wyvern
#

and its a hefty 30%

queen fox
#

thats an extra point, though

frank ether
queen fox
#

zealots gives dmg without an extra point

#

no, vets has its uses

#

its better for clutching tbh

frank ether
#

just really expensive to spec into and gives very little benefits back for your talent investment

acoustic wyvern
#

Voice of command also does not give dmg without spending points in the last tree

#

So saying it does not give dmg as a downside is just downright stupid

fast heart
#

Did you try Columnus? What do you think? @queen fox

queen fox
#

its pretty fun

#

i think im gonna use it like a brauto

#

also, stripped down is very, very useful in auric mael

#

running right up to shooters is fun

frank ether
#

feels like a gimmick

#

you have 5 seconds of uptime on that damage

queen fox
#

i see infil as a panick button and a clutching tool

acoustic wyvern
#

by ult do you mean for the empperor?

queen fox
#

not much else

frank ether
#

thats like 4 or so talent points wasted to do damage to bosses

#

and then 5 if you take extra damage on kraks

astral blade
queen fox
frank ether
#

dont argue with him

queen fox
#

cus repositioning with stripped down is a lot like repositioning with invis

frank ether
#

he can not have a conversation without insulting people

#

has rocks bouncing inside his brain probably

fast heart
#

Human sized ogryn

frank ether
#

yeah it will give you a headache

fast heart
#

Probably owns krieg skin

halcyon zephyr
#

maaaaan I wish there were more weapon skins you could earn ingame

frank ether
#

arguing about DT is more tiring than playing it

astral blade
acoustic wyvern
#

to the wrong person. its more enjoyable with others

halcyon zephyr
#

that era of gaming was awesome. microtransactions suck

dry kettle
fast heart
midnight mortar
queen fox
#

mid 2000's levels of customization

fast heart
#

There's 2 for bolter

halcyon zephyr
fast heart
#

One black and yellow

frank ether
queen fox
fast heart
#

Reminds me of sisters of battle

zealous wyvern
frank ether
#

I run a stripped down columnus or agri braced with infiltrate instead of a revolver or something like that.

hollow turtle
#

For anyone trying to match the new Ogryn cosmetic: color_3_colour_city_03

fast heart
#

No offence to kriegers, just overforced

umbral scaffold
#

What would turn a good MK III power sword roll into a god roll, I have power cycler and the one that does rending damage

#

I added extra carapace damage for more AP capabilities

#

Kills crushers good

queen fox
#

i know its off topic but i want to let @halcyon zephyr have hope in the gaming industry

i made this as a meme

zealous wyvern
#

i invite you to look at your own pfp and reflect on that kind of thinking

fast heart
#

Many players with krieg skins have a shovel instead of brain

hollow turtle
#

Lol AC6

zealous wyvern
#

so do players without that skin

#

it really means little

fast heart
#

It's Loland what's wrong with him

shell dust
#

I'm a Chainsword kind of guy

zealous wyvern
#

nothing wrong with loland

umbral scaffold
#

Why do you need to think if you can just hit your problem with a shovel

zealous wyvern
#

that is my point

#

having a trendy or hyped look should not lead to judgement

#

your pfp is in every single discord right now

frank ether
#

stereotypes exist for a reason

queen fox
#

i will judge you for buying microtransactions
you are part of the problem with gaming

zealous wyvern
#

they do. but tread with care

frank ether
#

it doesnt bind everyone but they usually exist for a reason

zealous wyvern
fast heart
#

It is what it is
I've met only one good vet with krieg skin

umbral scaffold
#

I’m a cosmetics whale in darktide, if there’s a good cosmetic in the store I’ll buy it. Hate me judge me if you please it doesn’t matter to me

frank ether
#

isnt most 40k fans just people spending enormous amounts of money over a hobby anyways

umbral scaffold
#

Fartshart makes bad decisions sometimes but they’re an indie studio and I want darktide to keep getting added onto so I buy the skins

zealous wyvern
#

i wonder if it has to do with krieg going hand in hand with a WAVE of beginners joining the game

umbral scaffold
frank ether
#

so why are people suprised krieg got a price raise and still sold well

midnight mortar
zealous wyvern
#

the xbox update

#

maybe that is why people think krieg are all bad

#

would make sense

#

anyway goodnight everybody

sharp ember
#

affirmative

queen fox
shell dust
#

I'm still missing the Krieg jacket, got the helmet and gasmask combo and the pants, no jacket yet because I can't earn the Aquilas to get it

umbral scaffold
#

CM promised compensation for pc players weeks ago

#

Early supporters at that

zealous wyvern
#

promised?

wanton dawn
midnight mortar
sharp ember
midnight mortar
#

They said that the matter was being discussed.

#

Not that there'd be compensation.

umbral scaffold
#

But I think another CM is on record saying that we were already compensated with the shitty B helmet

fast heart
#

They said it will be something

#

It may be even "Yea we fucked up get shitted on losers"

#

And that's it

umbral scaffold
#

We got an helmet with a B on it, B standing for buffoon

fast heart
#

Yea