gameplay-help

[clear plume]

but not the actual hack mods

[eager flame]

Depends on the team comp to a degree. If you have a Vet with smokes just keep him on shutdown the ranged twin duty while the rest of the team obliterates the melee one. Easiest way to get twins out of the way is to do it before the mission even starts. You are only going to pull more enemies if you advance. Usually twins comes with a horde in high Havoc anyways. Backing up around a corner also helps you isolate the melee twin since she can keep up with you while the other one walks around like Michael Myers.

[stiff orbit]

Assuming you haven’t selected any talents or blessings that interact with perfect blocks… what if anything does a perfect block actually do differently than any other block?

[shadow skiff]

Nothing. Unless the weapon itself has perfect block features like DC being able to perfect parry overheads.

[stiff orbit]

Ty

[ocean zenith]

Hi, I installed the Ovenproof's Scoreboard Plugin mod and the scoreboard isn't showing up.

[lime idol]

Did u download scoreboard

[ocean zenith]

Most esteemed [Sir/Madam]:

I pray you believe my word of honor that this lapse of memory was not born of disdain, but rather of a most unfortunate and fleeting distraction which I deeply lament.

I humbly beseech your mercy to pardon such a failing, and I entreat you to allow me the grace of proving that my high regard for your person remains steadfast and undiminished.

[lime idol]

What

Did u get scoreboard plugin without getting scoreboard lol

[ocean zenith]

Yes

[lime idol]

All good

Get newest scoreboard version

[turbid urchin]

any advise for leveling? not played much darktide since launch and well. i never got deep into it

[polar forum]

Play the highest difficulty level you can reliably win

That’s it

[sand sun]

Darktide's infamous memory leak is finally hitting my regular multiplayer group, and preventing my teammates from loading into missions. What are the usual fixes for this?

[fleet cypress]

Spam highest difficulty quick play

[sick arch]

Can anyone offer me any gameplay help on what blessings are best for infantry autogun on hivescum with desperado.

[eager flame]

Disable Portrait Rendering: Darktide Settings --> Interface --> Enable Portrait Rendering --> Off. From what I have seen mostly an issue for Nvidia cards. You may also want to update your GPU driver if outdated. From there, you can also navigate to the folder %appdata%/Fatshark/Darktide then locate and delete http_cache and shader_cache.hans files. Darktide will recompile shaders when you restart. They have a tendency to balloon over time with patches. Usually shader_cache.hans is less than 120,000 KB but can get to 1/2 GB or more.

[eager flame]

Vraks V Infantry Autogun with DumDum and Fire Frenzy is good for spray and pray damage from close to mid range. You may want to swap out Fire Frenzy depending on how you use the weapon but those should work well with Desperado. Be sure to get reload speed from the talent tree where able to keep up the pressure. Perks is somewhat personal preference but you could do +25% Maniacs and either +5% Crit or +25% Flak depending on your other build choices with regard to crit chance.

[sick arch]

Thank you

[shadow skiff]

Dum Dum Deathspitter works as well, feel free to test between them

[eager flame]

--lua-heap-mb-size 2048 If you add this line into the launch options in Steam it may also help. Source: https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/add-the-1-to-2gb-lua-heap-switch-to-launcher-settings-plz/100553

[coarse herald]

You can’t quickplay into maelstroms right?

[graceful raptor]

no, only manually choose to play it

[coarse herald]

Thank

[pulsar pilot]

Where does this portrait frame come from?

[eager flame]

Pre-order bonus. Not sure if obtainable by other means now or if it could be in the future. Fatshark has other basically unobtainable frames as well like a title and frame for youtube/twitch streamers.

[graceful raptor]

yeah, the SWAG portrait

[honest bloom]

Are Smelter Complex and Power Matrix HL-17-36 still in the game? The last two martyr skulls I need are on those missions but can’t for the life of me find them.

[pastel forge]

Pretty sure there weren't any missions removed from the game ever

You could try using the campaign mission list if they arent showing up in the mission board

[honest bloom]

I looked through all 17 campaign missions and they’re not on there and I’ve just been sitting here looking at each board refresh hoping they pop up

[dense tulip]

they did remove some temporarily in the past, but only because bugs were preventing from finishing them

but it was a while ago

[dense tulip]

just unlucky

[honest bloom]

Bummer. So either I randomly get them through quickplay or wait for them to be reintroduced in a future update?

[shadow skiff]

They are there, but only as random missions on the board.

Gotta get lucky they show up.

Quickplay only works if the mission is or was on the board and someone started a mission in it.

[honest bloom]

Awesome, I’ll keep checking the board then. Thank you!

[opal moth]

I'm a newish player and I've yet to try Havoc yet. How does it shape up to Auric in terms of difficulty, like what should I expect?

[slate aspen]

Can you give me a squad for havoc 35-40 for to unlock true survivor pls

A guide I wish build weapons inc

[errant oracle]

can you just manually select the mission itself from the battle for tertium campaign ?

never tried that when i was looking for the skulls

[opal moth]

I need to get a buncha skulls still, I've just been mastery grinding for like 100 hours

[stoic locust]

You do know you can just buy like 300k dockets in greys, upgrade them to green, then sacrifice them right

[opal moth]

I did not

I didn't second guess it cause I like the loop anyways

[stoic locust]

Just making sure

[graceful raptor]

you have a lot less hp and toughness, enemies deal corruption damage with melee hits, modificators suck ass to deal with

[opal moth]

Aw, I see why it's premades only then

[graceful raptor]

also there is some thing with shooting enemies, i dont remember is they shoot faster or something, fatshark changed them at some point so i dont remember

[graceful raptor]

oh and also there come multiple captains and bosses during a mission, plus twins once a mission

which is fun

i wish aurics had them

[opal moth]

I was thinking the other day that I wish more missions had bosses

Or at least more random twins/champions

[pastel forge]

pretty much every mission is going to have a few bosses on higher difficulties

[opal moth]

I haven't played a whole of Auric yet (cause I usually play after work blasted out of my gord) but in damnation I feel like I don't see many bosses outside of the scripted ones like on the train or that specific mission with the twins

[graceful raptor]

on mission without any modificators you wont see them, many numbers of them appear on "special can be turn to monstrocity" maelstrom mission or on havoc

also in mortis trials

[honest bloom]

No, those two missions specifically are not part of the campaign. I got lucky and saw Smelter Complex on the mission board after posting here and got that done. Then Power Matrix popped up as the maelstrom but the modifier was lights out so I couldn’t get it. Plus the randoms were just plowing through it. Maybe tomorrow!

[opal moth]

I didn't see Smelter until recently, I thought I was trippin

[opal moth]

Ooohhh TIL

[eager flame]

Havoc 1-10 is basically Malice with some modifiers. 11-20 is Heresy and your stats start to diminish and more modifiers. 21-30 is Damnation but now Emperor's Fading light will always be nerfing your toughness grace period so enemies can do HP damage with ranged the second it is gone and melee enemies like crushers can corrupt your health and eventually do so much damage they one shot you with full toughness. Havoc 31-40 is more of all of the above but still limited to 3-4 modifiers like it is at H21 or so.

[mint cave]

do folks need to do an auric maelstrom to play havoc now?

[opal moth]

I feel like I get one shot but crushers on damnation anyways lmao

[opal moth]

This is ultra educational tho ty.

I'll probably hit the lfg this weekend or something

[graceful raptor]

no, in aurics crushers get you downed and teammated can revive you, in havocs crushers literally kill you with full health and full wounds because of corruption damage added to their melee attacks

in high havoc*, as i remember on the higher havoc the higher the corruption damage

[opal moth]

oh

That is a stark difference

[fierce sandal]

No, but if you do that you'll start at havoc 16

[hushed roost]

Is it better to sacrifice green or blue rarity weapons for optimal xp?

[graceful raptor]

green iirc

[eager flame]

If you have full toughness a melee hit will not touch your HP normally. However, even a single point missing from a stray bullet will let a crusher overhead wipe you with a squishy class in normal Damnation. The difference in higher Havoc is even with full toughness a Crusher will hit you so hard that he deletes all your HP and corrupts it (purple HP) so even with multiple wounds you will still be dead (not downed) with no hope of being revived.

[eager flame]

The expense to upgrade is counterproductive. If you have a blue or higher rarity to sacrifice it will give you a bit more XP. The difference between green and orange is not even double XP though. So just buy grey from Brunt, upgrade to green and sacrifice if you have resources to burn for weapon mastery.

[opal moth]

That's kinda badass tbh

[fleet cypress]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3318538305

Havoc stuff at the bottom

Enemy melee corruption being the funny part that enables overhead instakills

[graceful raptor]

bro had been told about overhead instakills like a hundred times already...

[fleet cypress]

Pipebomb

[vocal nacelle]

Not enough

[short bolt]

got launched into a spot where my scum could not pull me back up from on either side. poxburster moment lol, but also... is this not the least threatening ledge of doom in the game?

just stand up!

[eager flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBYr2lfWEQc

[ocean zenith]

Wretched am I, for no matter how much my reason striveth, I find no way to disentangle myself from the subtle snares of that enchantress, into whose nets I fall time and again like an unwary bird.
I humbly beseech your worship, if you possess greater prudence, to endow me with some wise counsel or stratagem, that I may swiftly elude so deceitful a peril.
(I keep falling into the Trapper and I need advice)

[graceful raptor]

trappers are very weak to stagger, if you are happen to be close to them - just push or hit or shoot them

dodging is a getgud thing

not in a close range tho

make use of walls and corners

after shooting a net trapper runs away to reload her gun, then runs back to fuck you up once more

https://youtu.be/7uPn67k_xzM

good video on specials

[ocean zenith]

I render you my most heartfelt thanks for your wise counsel. Rest assured that I shall put your words into practice with all diligence, hoping that by your guidance, I may finally elude those treacherous nets.

[fleet cypress]

the nefarious net through cover

[hollow steppe]

Anyone having issues loading the game with mods? It crashes for me today U_U

[graceful raptor]

i have troubles connecting to missions if i have the game booted for too long

it literally gets bricked, needs to alt f4

[hollow steppe]

Yeah, I guess depends on which mods you running, I've unlisted some of them from the txt, now it loads

[haughty wren]

hi, just unlocked the omnissiah upgrades thing. when is it worth to upgrade my weapons there instead of just buying a new one

[fleet cypress]

when its good stat distribution

[vocal nacelle]

above lvl 20 or lvl 30, low lvl just try everything

[sick arch]

Not sure this is exactly gameplay help but is it likely havoc ranks will “reset” by the end of may

[keen flume]

When you reach class max level and master majority of weapons levels

[frozen rune]

ahoi ppl could need some help with my gameplay i guess, i think i mostly die on auric maelstorm to tthe same causes : <

mosty the team splits up when i clear my stuff (crushers and trash together) and i rarely have time to take a look where everyone is so is it my fault? i may have to get better

[steep silo]

By the time next update rolls out, probably not end of May and more something like early/mid June

[steep silo]

depends on many factors really, like are you killing crushers and trash behind the team or in front? are there more enemies in front of the team while you are dealing with stuff behind?

also in auric you don't need to hang around and kill every single trash mob, just kill elites/specials and most of the trash and move on, if you hang around to kill everything it's likely you'll lag behind

[frozen rune]

usually i play hybrids since if i play a support i get left alone. mostly i get overwhelmed even as dps dude clear out stuff and i dunno, its weird : s

on auric i try mostly that i get close to my team but if i get like 4 hounds, 3 trapper and 6 bomber mixes i need some short breath - mostly if i take care of that obsticles i get ironicly attacked by a horde direcly from the fron (where the team should be) im also a solo-joiner (no strike team) so i must do something wrong

[steep silo]

when fighting do you usually try to hold a position (a chokepoint for example) or by moving around? on auric maelstrom especially you generally want to be always on the move since the director will keep throwing specials at you

try to take a step back from the fight, look around for a sec to see where your team is and get closer if you're far

if you get separated the director likes to send trappers and dogs

[frozen rune]

i usually let them get ground and dash to side/back (depends what comes up on disablers) so maybe i get too much focused on the specials and llet too much time pass to get rid of them

thank you for your input : 3

also i cant handle the situation when someone is downed, i usally go all in (controlled) which is a stupuid idea.

[steep silo]

in those situations you want to clear enemies first, specials and elites most importantly

you have quite a bit of time to rescue them if there isnt anything actively hitting them while downed

[frozen rune]

thanks a lot : 3
i will also listen more to audio clues

[steep silo]

yeah many things you just pick up after playing for a while

[next ridge]

hey guys - i downloaded some mods like show healthbars, automatic left click , and i have a problem in that ocassionaly those mods will stop to work for like 10-30 seconds, then work again - why is this happening? and is there a fix?

[clear plume]

I have yet to see anyone else have that problem

it'd be best to ask in the modding discord

[next ridge]

ty!

[orchid lynx]

asking this because I just genuinely do not remember the answer, does curio rank matter? for me it annoys me cause I have 2 toughness curios, both at 16% but one is at 380 and the other is 390, those rank numbers do not affect anything do they?

[patent jasper]

unless its been changed recently the only curio rank that matters is for stamina in which any +3 at 400 or below is actually a +2 ingame

all else effect nothing

[orchid lynx]

that was a thing? wow but allright cool, only thing affected then will be my mental condition, damn you sub 400 sitting there next to my 410 and 420 curious

ty ty

[steep silo]

that should be fixed now

so if it displays +3 it actually gives +3

not sure if it works retroactively

[eager flame]

The playerbase is filled with many mindless players at the moment between sales bringing in new people and pending updates keeping away the veterans waiting for new content. General ways to combat selfish players with no sense of teamwork who chase the next enemy and often lead others to chase them is to bring a stealth ult to lose aggro and allow yourself to reposition when needed. You can abuse this by swarming other players with everything that was chasing you so take care not to become the problem yourself. Once you learn how to move you can begin to navigate mid-fight between attacking/blocking and dodge to create space to dash to the team more often. Expect to be left for dead by randoms because anything that's threatening to kill you doesn't exist in their mind until it comes for them after you are dead.

[eager flame]

Curio rating only affects the primary stat of the trinket (stamina, toughness, etc). You may want as much as you can get but max is 17% Toughness, 21% HP, 3 Stamina, 1 Wound so you often are missing very little and can still modify the 3 perks on bottom any way you like after fully consecrating the curio.

[orchid lynx]

ah that part I knew I am just trying to make new-ish builds as I took a break for a while and coming back a lot of my old builds got wiped so had to hunt for Curios again and could not remember if that number really mattered or not.
got 1 17% and 2 16% relics so 1 outta 3 not bad, just gonna annoy me if I get another 17% one and its at a weird number.
wish the reworking boosted their rank number like it does on weapons

[eager flame]

If you happen to farm 100K Ingots (weekly bounty currency) you can blow it on stacks of RNG curios from Sire Melk and usually end up with a workable collection of them. Since Ingots serve no other major purpose in the current build of the game you can safely spam them on curios even 5-10K at a time but save some on the off chance a decent one ends up in the daily shop at Sire Melk in the meantime.

[orchid lynx]

yeah had like 20k saved up from when I was more active in the game, burned through a lot of em

[obsidian portal]

Is No Man's Land genuinely a difficult mission, or am I just having really bad luck with it?

I've been trying to clear it on Auric Hi-STG for a long time with either of my psyker or vet, neither of which are particularly weird builds (as a general thing, I can hold my own in Auric), but I've had failure after failure on NML, and my scoreboards don't seem to indicate that I'm being particularly sucky in any category. I'm not taking large amounts of damage, I'm dealing plenty, I'm taking out a fair share of the elites and specials, I'm regularly rescuing other players (particularly with the Vet, where I'm currently running the recently buffed Only in Death does Duty End, and can shout them back into action).

But this specific mission repeatedly eludes me. (Done it on Hi-Auric, just not with STG too).

[patent jasper]

probably just bad luck, where in the mission are your games usually ending

[obsidian portal]

A bit of a mix.

I'd say that most often it's one of the shelled fields or soon after getting through the gate of the Folly. The cluster of bridges after the first med station isn't uncommon though.

These are admittedly relatively high risk areas.

The fields force you to pick between either not having much cover against ranged enemies, or getting stuck in the craters if you get swarmed by melee enemies; storming the gate also forces you to commit to an area with little cover.

The bridges... when that happens, it tends to be more because the top room is a fairly common area for a boss to spawn, and if you're not really on top of specials, you can end up with very little space to play with.

[eager flame]

Open areas with gunners are a threat most groups failed to operate in due to a lack of threat prioritization and seeking cover or making it. Untaggable gunmen have become a greater threat over time due to seeking cover themselves and focusing a single teammate so their toughness is chipped until they identify and eliminate the threat since randoms recognize zero of the bullets not aimed at them especially when the threat can't be highlighted. An anti-ranged build who is properly protected by the team will most likely make short work of many of the trouble spots in No Man's Land.

[obsidian portal]

Both of these builds are reasonable at taking out shooters, although not ultra-specialised at it... but I'll bear it in mind as a thought for future runs.

(I used to run a Vet build with the Mk7 Vigilant Autogun, which was pretty solid at taking out shooters, but shifted away from it because the Zarona is better at being able to quickly splatter specials).

[eager flame]

On Auric anything can work so don't feel you have to change your build. The coordination of the team is still likely the biggest missing factor. If 3 people die in a an open field on Auric by running into gunfire it doesn't matter how good your build is at anti-ranged you now have to rez the careless or solo Auric to the next rescue point.

[radiant roost]

Does the Ogryn Rumbler cause any suppression to enemies or just stagger?

I'm seeing Rumbler builds using the Coward Culling aura but I don't really understand why

[obsidian portal]

... that said, I went back to my old Vigilant build, and just cleared the thing first time, and I didn't even feel it was a particularly brilliant team (decent, but not great).

(Although it did remind me that part of the reason I changed from that build was the introduction of Plasma Gunners. Danged carapace "weakspots" on a ranged enemy are really unhelpful for the Ghost blessing).

I can't categorically see why my revolver build shouldn't be able to do it, but I will admit that the Vigilant has the advantage of being able to walk out into the open, go "LOOK AT ME, I'M A MASSIVE TARGET!!", then tank the entirety of the enemy gunfire as you're shooting their heads off.

I'll give the other builds another shot some other time, with a focus on trying to make sure to keep the shooters in check.

But this at least convinces me that I'm not completely incompetent.

(Although interestingly this time I did end up at the bottom of the rankings on damage dealt).

Not by a lot, but still bottom.

[paper zenith]

Damage doesnt necessarily mean impact. If you’re smoking high value targets throughout the run, that’s more important.

[fleet cypress]

Or just check armory every reset

[haughty wren]

question about melee. on the Assault Chainsword the light attack icon shows a swinging sword while the heavy attack icon shows a strike? icon. does this mean my light attacks cleave better or something

[eager flame]

I believe the explosion can suppress enemies who don't die in the explosion radius but it is likely safe to swap to another aura. Keeping the Suppression aura saves points if the builds you are looking at branch out elsewhere.

[eager flame]

Most enemies with Carapace heads have a weakpoint between their legs you can exploit which is still considered Flak. Plasma Gunners included. Crushers are an exception.

[eager flame]

The sniping revolver has too few shots and is too slow to reload for hordes of gunmen. The fan the hammer revolver has trash damage beyond mid-range.

[eager flame]

Damage dealt is a trash concept because it factors in overkill damage and is biased towards horde and tank-elite clear players. If you are eliminating major threats like specials/gunners you will never be highest damage. It does not mean you were not a major contributor to victory ultimately. The HP just doesn't correlate.

[obsidian portal]

Yeah, I think a lot of it comes down to that build being able to drop any human sized enemy except a rager or carapace helmet in a single headshot, so once you start focusing on regular shooters (and you still want headshots to keep Ghost procced), a metric butt-tonne of your damage goes into overkill.

[eager flame]

There are several different attack patterns. Strikedowns are heavy damage low cleave, usually up/down swings. Relentless is high cleave low damage usually side to side swings. Vanguard is usually diagonal and a mix between the aforementioned. Then there are Stab attacks which are like Strikedown but pointy and may have better armor penetration. There are also some weapon special attacks that are kind of high impact/stagger stab-like attacks.

[haughty wren]

ooooo okay thanks. sounds like im gonna prefer relentless weapons

[eager flame]

Until you meet a horde of Crushers. Usually you want a bit of a mix like Relentless light attacks with a strikedown heavy attack to give you options against multiple enemy types.

[obsidian portal]

I don't mean specifically that "the revolver should be able to keep every shooter dead" (although I do run the larger mag size talent and the weapon specialist reload node, which does a lot to offset the Zarona's poor capacity) - obviously the Vigilant is so much better at that - but "It's not just me being entirely useless, so in theory the revolver build should be able to clear that mission".

[eager flame]

Revolver is a good weapon. The current (and perhaps perpetual) problem with randoms is the revolver does a good job against the types of enemies randoms chase anyways. Revolver can be a problem solver so long as your build gives you ways to react to the enemies it does not excel at. Smoke grenades or stealth ult can give you breathing room against gunmen to close the gap. Gunners die to melee just fine provided they don't shoot you to death first 😛

[eager flame]

I think with Ghost you just want weakpoint hits which means if you shoot them in the crotch and trigger the weakpoint (orange reticle highlight) it should still proc Ghost. Not positive but I am pretty sure.

[obsidian portal]

Now I'm trying to decide whether you're having me on. I can shoot them in the nuts?

[fleet cypress]

Maulers yes

[fleet cypress]

Mag size useless

Just spam trigger weapon spec

1 stack always reloads 1 round

[obsidian portal]

Not at all. That's two more shots before you have to start reloading, and can increase the number of rounds loaded if you have multiple stacks. This is quite significant as far as how often you have to break to reload in combat.

[fleet cypress]

You can just double tap q after every trash mob kill

Its a useless talent

Unless you want to triple barrel meme

[stoic locust]

It also requires pretty significant investment for a weapon spec build

3 points you should probably be spending elsewhere

Pulling any of this for ammo economy on an efficient weapon is not a great idea

[obsidian portal]

I don't want to be resetting it every single kill, I would actually like to have that ready-to-go crit and the faster trigger.

[eager flame]

Yes. Not every enemy. Pretty sure Maulers and Plasma Gunners at least.

[stoic locust]

You don't have to be

[fleet cypress]

What faster trigger

[stoic locust]

Just do it selectively when you're in short lulls of trash killing in intense situations

[stoic locust]

the like
10% ranged attack speed or whatever (I think)

[fleet cypress]

Also you already have that from sugrical/roulette

[fleet cypress]

That's on melee

[stoic locust]

It also got some weak ranged attack speed

[obsidian portal]

No, there's +2% ranged attack speed per stack.

[stoic locust]

like 2% per stack or smth

[obsidian portal]

And that can make some difference.

[stoic locust]

Entirely forgettable and largely irrelavent

[fleet cypress]

Oh

Yeah

[stoic locust]

There is like no weapon thats good with weapon spec that makes use of it

Maybe agri combat or smth?

[fleet cypress]

Maybe combat shotgun

About it

[stoic locust]

Yeah probably just combat shotgun

[fleet cypress]

Regardless useless for hand cannon

[stoic locust]

Still, the only way I can see taking lock and load is pulling BiD, Rending Strikes, and OfB

Which is kinda crippling for a bit of ammo

[fleet cypress]

Already get enough crit from roulette/surgical

[stoic locust]

Oh actually maybe duty and honor if you're based

[fleet cypress]

🗿

[stoic locust]

The forbidden dip

actually this is kinda funny I'd fw it

[fleet cypress]

💀

[stoic locust]

I think you just lack the whimsy for this critical buildcrafting

[fleet cypress]

Busy being held hostage on smoke vet on havoc 20s

[stoic locust]

Reasonable

[fleet cypress]

Pov you aren't true level 1000

[obsidian portal]

With respect, this kind of thing is why I didn't post full build links.

Every time I ever do that, I get someone dissecting the entire build, telling me it's absolutely rubbish and how can I possibly play with this, I might as well just throw myself off a ledge, uninstall the game, and save the rest of the team the burden of playing with me.

These are builds that have served me fine in basically every other mission, including Maelstroms (I've never got into Havoc, because I'm often playing at night and can't be on voice without disturbing other people in the house). The question was specifically about what it might have been about one specific mission that was proving a challenge.

[stoic locust]

You are highly overreacting, I was making a comment on why it probably wouldn't be a good idea

I'm not trying to maul your face off

I'm not denying that it works, just making a suggestion on why I think it isn't a great idea

People run absolute bullshit all the time and make it work

[clear plume]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2engineer-imposter-it-could-be-you-meme-tf2spy-gif-23428001

[stoic locust]

Oh hi ainz

[clear plume]

lol

Hallo

[fleet cypress]

Pov help in the help channel

Anything works in auric anyway

Especially post crusher spawns

[clear plume]

everything works in havoc too

Tide games are where its like 90/10 to skill/build

skill carries too much

[fleet cypress]

Can't skill gap the party finder

[clear plume]

just host

I've never been declined

[fleet cypress]

Hosting to h40

[clear plume]

me when I have to put in effort to get something

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-pet-silly-pat-dog-gif-3985961921004463793

[stoic locust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1326747259395768456/1383051320155574402/catScared-2x.gif

[fleet cypress]

Me when hosted only promos 1 rank

😔

[clear plume]

what

it was a clip

[fleet cypress]

L

[clear plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1504609181611724810/1D96F01.MP4?ex=6a0a3eff&is=6a08ed7f&hm=52dfcef1c82955268a0e27dd4cb58a66d93474be4e5d1ad92e4f885401441b80&

okay

[fleet cypress]

Wh

[clear plume]

the clip works without words

[fleet cypress]

Cheat

Wh

[clear plume]

free cheat

watch and learn

[fleet cypress]

10/10 automod

[fleet cypress]

Outstanding move

[clear plume]

Thanks

its why I am the best player

[fleet cypress]

I should level my zealot

[stoic locust]

Little did your team know there were 2432044 poxwalkers cramed inside that entrance and the burster killed all of them

[clear plume]

there was 3

atleast

like wtf

[fleet cypress]

Easier than holding a hive at gunpoint for cleanse stims

[obsidian portal]

Okay, I'm perhaps being a bit dramatic about what people have told me to do (although to listen to some people they have acted like I'm practically trying to throw the game and sabotage the team).

I'm just the kind of person who likes exploring things myself and I'm not hugely into looking up meta builds. (Although I do like guides that actually explain the actual mechanics of the nodes, rather than having to try to guess from Fatshark's frequently terrible descriptions. Ogryn "Steady Grip" was a particularly awful example, where the terminology is completely wrong).

[stoic locust]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3367063781

Go forth

Also Kuli guides on steam

[fleet cypress]

Epic embed fail

[stoic locust]

Its a steam guide who cares

[fleet cypress]

[stoic locust]

(me, I do)

(my life is over)

[stoic locust]

Why is it blue

[fleet cypress]

Why not

[stoic locust]

Excellent point

[obsidian portal]

(As I recall, for a long time Steady Grip said "Toughness recovery" when it should have said "Toughness regeneration").

[clear plume]

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-blueman-why-are-you-blue-radioactive-glowing-blue-gif-7961548304504204931

[fleet cypress]

[obsidian portal]

(Or is it the other way around?)

I'm sure the build I eventually used to get through the mission would horrify people.

[obsidian portal]

Yeah, I know what it does now, but the way it's worded implies that it's a multiplier for other regeneration, rather than a source of it itself.

[obsidian portal]

(Ultimately, the marksman build I used stacks about all the toughness regen nodes I can get my hands on and Born Leader. It's almost certainly not a top-tier build, but I've levelled everything other than Scum now, and I know that recovering toughness in a purely ranged fight can be difficult for some builds, so... toughness for everyone, I guess.)

It was made as a "I'm fed up of getting chewed up from a distance" build, and I should really have thought about it before.

Although at some times it has just made things even more frustrating.

I do remember one game in the Arena at the end of Merchantile HL-70-04 where the rest of the team was armed entirely with things like shotguns and autopistols.

And there was a certain lack of teamwork.

[haughty wren]

is the spearhead boltgun more of a bossing weapon? tried it for the 1st time and it feels a bit unwieldy for zealot

[stoic locust]

Its a point in direction of enemy weapon on like everyone but vet

Aim at carapace pack/boss/dense mixed horde

Pull trigger

Watch it kill like 2 (and soften the rest) then go back to melee

[obsidian portal]

In that I had a rifle that could absolutely nail the gunners on the other side of the arena, and things would have gone a fair bit smoother if they'd spent less time taking potshots themselves, and more time focusing on clearing up the melee.

(I know the Vigilant isn't considered particularly top tier, but I like it).

[vocal nacelle]

You only use it on boss or crusher/rager pack

You can skip the swap animation with throwing knife

[eager flame]

You can use the stealth ult on zealot to alleviate the weapon wield time. Then use the auto-fire to delete hordes of maulers, crushers, etc. It used to work better with a ranged damage buff +40% from behind the enemy for boss damage. These days most zealots don't resort to boltgun. It is a better fit for Vet whose stealth is long enough to mask the boltgun reload and stack ranged damage from the tree with stealth ult x 2 to kill monsters with autofire LMB. Vet can also use executioners stance to whip out boltgun and start sniping to kill almost anything in one shot/headshot. It is a clunky weapon though.

[haughty wren]

thanks everyone. guess ill stay with the bolt pistol for zealot. seems like its easier to use when i do need a ranged weapon

[arctic iron]

hey guys im new to modding darktide, are there any mods you guys would recommend using?

[strange thunder]

Numeric UI, True Level, For the Emperor, Chat Block are some good fundamentals but there's tons of other QoL mods that are too numerous to count

filter mods by endorsements and scroll through to find stuff that interests you, can always try stuff out, tweak settings, or just uninstall if they're not to your liking

[graceful raptor]

numeric ui is useless, why even do you need knowing exact ammo count of your teammates, default yellow-orange-red indications are enough

the less useless info on your screen - the better

[hollow steppe]

what if you are colorblind?

[graceful raptor]

different story, duh

[restive jewel]

been out of play for the past two weeks. what happened?

[clear plume]

nothing

well

uncanny strikes got changed

[opal moth]

Funny enough, I wish you could turn off extra weapon UI like the energy build up bars and heat gauge, cause I feel like you can see that ui directly on the weapon I prefer that in a lot of instances

[spare rivet]

tbh

I kind of wish I could see what my own color was lol

for ammo %

[opal moth]

Yeah I kinda feel that

[steep silo]

You can with mods such as Custom HUD

[noble field]

now that uncanny strike does brittleness instead of rending, should it be swapped out for another blessing? on knife, dueling sword, etc

[vernal frigate]

On shovel, I switched to skullcrusher + decimator

[wheat night]

any idea how much time there's left to the currect Havoc campaign?

[eager flame]

Seasons in Havoc are around 3 months, changing with each quarterly game update. We will receive information regarding the upcoming update next week and it will be implemented around mid-June more or less.

[bitter violet]

I think it’s still fine to use after the change.

[eager flame]

5.11.26 Class Balance Changes Ogryn
Increased the height at which the Ogryn is able to Vault over obstacles. https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/699890007742088377?l=english

[worldly dove]

Does anybody else have an issue where sometimes chat just stops working in game?

like messages just stop sending

[vocal nacelle]

third party chat vivox , sometimes it can disconnect need to restart game

[worldly dove]

That's the only fix?

[vocal nacelle]

well the other game i play using vivox have "reconnect/refresh" button for bugged chat (only refresh the chat)

[radiant roost]

Yes my problem is solved

[thick acorn]

do you lose the riposte buff when switching to ranged weapon?

[void forge]

yep

the buff icon stays but it doesn't benefit ranged weapons

that is generally how most blessings work, with some rare execptions

[flat hull]

am i suffering from brain damage?

[graceful raptor]

bro's actually enjoying expeditions 💀

[flat hull]

no why cant i unlock the thing

i met all the requierments

[graceful raptor]

no
thank god

[shadow skiff]

Check if you turned on private mode on main terminal.

But I think it's just Fatshark bricking expeditions table.

The former, if turned off, will fix the inability to quickplay in public mode on said table.

I think Fatshark just broke private expeditions completely.

[red oriole]

Hey I invited one of my friends on here but she can't verify her account cause no phone number is there any way to work around that?

[flat hull]

quick play works for me, I just don't have the last one unlock even though I meet all the requirements. annoying to have to run 3 rooms instead of 5 in this dog shit mode

[shadow skiff]

Then Fatshark broke.

[eager flame]

Have you already closed Darktide and relaunched the game? Could be the servers need to sync up to give you the actual option to unlock that zone. Had a few friends with that issue and I'm pretty sure that is what they did to get it to work. In the meantime, you can run the community zone in the bottom right which has 5 regions to explore albeit with more modifiers than Zeta.

[eager flame]

As far as I know this is a new Discord policy. They have been making several changes over the past year or so. I don't know of any workaround to date.

[shadow skiff]

Naw, them being locked is Fatshark. They are always locked in private mode. Only quickplay is unlocked in private mode atm.

[swift lodge]

If I wanted to get the Flesh Wound penance, could I do it in quick play on expeditions?

[leaden turret]

Hello, Regarding out of memory crashes, I use vortex, ive tried to increase the heap size, but it wont take. I crash after ~4 games by exhausting 1024.

Is there a trick to getting the 2048 setting to stick?

[eager flame]

Yes. Unless a patch bricks something. So far as I have seen penances are all earnable in expeditions for now though.

[eager flame]

Add --lua-heap-mb-size 2048 to the Steam launch options and it should work every time. Check for outdated mods as that is the most likely source of a rapid memory leak in my experience and disable or update them if possible. Source for further instruction if needed: https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/out-of-memory-lua-heap-its-back-again/102434/3

[leaden turret]

How do you confirm that the setting was accepted and the heap size has increased?

Ive used that setting and it still OOMs at 1024.

The log cites the heap size on crash only and I cant seem to find a way to get it to return the heap size without a crash.

I'm wondering if vortex is playing a role. Perhaps it uses different launch settings.

Anyone other ideas?

[eager flame]

In Steam Options the full line to enter may be: %command% --lua-heap-mb-size 2048

[eager flame]

Another thing to try is fixing an issue with Mesh Streamer by disabling it in the settings_common.ini. Source: https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/low-quality-assets/100616/12

Look for the post near the bottom by styky for the folder address and what to look for in the .ini file. This should also noticeably improve god rays/fog LOD but primarily will eliminate texture streaming from bloating the memory cache.

[eager flame]

If you are crashing in 4 games you will only be getting to ~8 games by doubling the cache theoretically. I still recommend limiting/eliminating potential sources of memory leak over just giving them more room to grow in the long run. These steps include first and foremost: eliminating outdated mods or updating them. After that, deleting and recompiling shader cache, updating GPU driver, verifying file integrity. Possibly reducing worker thread count in the launcher as the last thing I can think of.

[leaden turret]

OK, I'll take a look. I verified, GPU is up to date. 8 games would be amazing, I rarely play more than 4 or so, but it crashes around then. If they are longer havocs, its less games. Im pretty sure if I could double the heap id be set. I'll check the command line you suggested

Thanks

[misty sapphire]

Random question. I have a few people wanting to start doing havocs together. How much does comp matter vs coordination and personal skill set?
And do the coherency passives matter enough to coordinate for builds? Or just some small extra value?

I imagine as long as there’s some cc, some defensives, and everyone is capable of dealing with hordes and bosses, we should be relatively fine?
I have to assume the meta includes shout vet and bubble psyker? Anything particularly bad for a comp?

[clear plume]

Long story short and not to be rude, the average play depends heavily on using the strongest builds/weapons while also standing on top of each other because they aren't fit to solo. It's how the game evolved. But skill carries this game so much more then build/team comp, so all critique depends on your skill level. There is no "meta" is what works best for the situation since darktide has way way too many variables. Coherency regen has use but depending on which talent/perk it varies in uptime and usefulness.

Even havoc 40 is possible to true solo with enough skill

[misty sapphire]

Okay, that’s valuable. So, with us planning to hopefully do havoc 1-40 together, we should be less concerned about class synergy and more concerned about carrying our own weight? So to speak?

[clear plume]

Of course, see what you both perform well with and work from there

For example, my playstyle is being always ahead and maintaining spawns with melee, so people often like playing "support/ranged" when they play with me

But again it's not needed. You can have 4 crackheads running it down and be fine

[radiant roost]

Deathspitter does stack more than once, correct?

Also, does the Arbitator dog prioritize Elites and Specials by default, or do you need to take Unleashed Brutality

[patent jasper]

from kulis guides

(1) By default, it automatically tries to attack the closest attacking enemy within 6m to the player. Alternatively, it can select attacking targets within up to 16m to the player; should prioritize close melee elites over other elites and specials over other enemies. Generally, the Cyber-Mastiff tries to attack appropriate targets within range that are attacking the player and are preferably inside an 120° angle in front of the player. Does not automatically attack Poxburster.

[dapper shard]

Up to 5 times, yes.

[radiant roost]

Since the update I find I disconnect from Havoc matches often. Is there a guide on perhaps settings thatm ight reduce the chance of disconnect

[opal moth]

Is there a good way to work on not getting flanked/blindsided in higher difficulties? Or do I just have to memorize spawns?

Cause my crowd control is decent, tho I take a lot of strays esp from behind

[clear plume]

practice and learning how spawns work

[craggy minnow]

Audio (when its working right)

[zealous dome]

Always assume enemies are approaching from the flanks and look around more often

[opal moth]

Love me my quiet sleeper daemonhosts

[opal moth]

That makes sense. I usually get tunnel vision by whatever horde is in front of me when I'm holding a chokepoint

Cause I'm always scared if I look away I'm gonna get smacked lol

[charred bloom]

What does the special on the dual stub pistols actually do

[night horizon]

Anyone know a fix for the havoc chest bug?

I cant start a run because i couldnt claim last weeks crate

[craggy minnow]

Shot right after is perfectly accurate and deals bonus headshot damage iirc

[lime idol]

Both will matter, being able to carry your own weights is a baseline requirement, and team comp & synergies will also help

[eager flame]

Did you finish a game in order to have a crate to obtain? You have to talk to Dukane every week to be eligible to play after Sunday reset. You may also want to check to see if the the Havoc terminal has you locked in a previously played game. If so it should show you a list of players it believes you are in a game with and won't start until those players are present. You can clear this by pressing/holding the demote button (it should read in the bottom right as "clear previous Havoc mission" if so. If it just says demote don't press it. Afterwards it should resume being the demote button and you should be able to join games again. It may also be someone else on the team who has not spoken to Dukane yet.

[strong mountain]

Hey quick question! I cannot for the life of me complete the penance “Blessed by Fate” if anyone has any tips that would be awesome! I’ve tried so many different things and I’m still just stuck at 4/50. Is it bugged?

[eager flame]

Can't say if the penance is currently broken or not but what you need to do is overheat yourself with a staff, blitz ability or force sword weapon special and then save yourself with either the Venting Shriek ult or Scrier's Gaze ult to lose overheat and not blow up [the penance may require venting shriek since that is the ult the penance was based on originally iirc]. Scrier's ult cooldown is shorter. You will know you are overheating when you drop your weapon, start holding your hands out in front of you and moving slower. This is the time to activate the ult for Blessed by Fate.

Possibly the penance requires Psykinetic's Wrath which is the unupgraded version of Venting Shriek. To use this you need to not choose an ult in order to have the base version in the worst case scenario but I think Venting Shriek should work even if Scrier's doesn't.

[strong mountain]

Thanks! I’ll keep trying! I appreciate the help

[cloud swallow]

I just had the same issue with grid point Zeta, and by double clicking on zeta, it unlocked it, despite no regular button to unlock. Hope this helps.

[radiant roost]

What is the best Arbites weapon for horde clear?

[graceful raptor]

arbi maul, arbi shield+maul, crusher maul, exterminator shotgun

...maybe boltgun if you're having fun spending valuable ammo on trash mobs

[radiant roost]

yeah I was wondering more for melee. Exterminator definitely great but the ammo. I feel like with the shield and maul I'm not carving through hordes very well

[graceful raptor]

there is a perk in the tree that gives cleave

it helps

at the bottom

[radiant roost]

what is the horde combo for the Arbi maul? Is it taking the cleave on push node and then doing a push attack

[graceful raptor]

push attack + heavy + heavy

can do push attack + heavy then repeat

watch your stamina tho

also taking cleave on push is not super necessary i would say

if your build leans toward right side then why not

[void forge]

It's nice though because the cleave also works on ranged weapons

[graceful raptor]

stamina on kill perk os also super nice, cause of push attack spam

[radiant roost]

For Voltaic Mandibles which causes the dog to electrocute enemies, does the dog get a damage boost from the HIgh Voltage blessing on weapons?

I want the dog to be able to kill stuff but right now the only talent buff I am giving it is Voltaic Mandibles. I'm not giving it the bleed, brittleness or one of the Keystones

[shadow skiff]

Play malice then, dog should kill.

Dog got nerfed to be more a pinning thing or chase things running away and disable them.

[dapper shard]

The mastiff itself doesn't benefit from it as far as I can tell, but the damage dealt by it with Voltaic Mandibles DoT should increase if you have a weapon with High Voltage out

[void forge]

I believe high voltage does increase the damage of the electrocution dot from voltaic mandibles, but not the dog's damage

And only when the weapon with high voltage is being wielded

So basically what kjerad said

[radiant roost]

So Voltaic Mandibles plus High Voltage might be enough to ensure the dog is killing enough elites and specialists to keep up talents that give buffs on elites and specialist kills

[shadow skiff]

It has always been enough to kill. The real issue is ksing teammates.

Because when it takes 3 secs to kill, someone just shooting it denies you of the buff.

And people tend to shoot easy targets.

[dapper shard]

Execution Order/left bottom keystone can also help, and it's generally a solid choice even without the mastiff

[shadow skiff]

He did say not including keystones.

So I assume forceful build.

[dapper shard]

OH, fair enough, I forgot about that bit.

I just go by the heuristic that I'd never want to build mastiff damage without EO keystone

Or play with mastiff at all, for that purpose

[shadow skiff]

Why I joked about playing malice. You simply do not treat dog as damage outside of stacking and EO.

Just long range CC or to chase targets rounding corners a distance away.

Main use for keeping it is it allows for mistakes soloing CSpawns. If you get grabbed, the dog will force a release.

[opal moth]

Man, the gore bubble that pops is always worth the ammunition

The darktide bolters are a borderline sexual satisfaction

This game also made me love lasguns a bunch

[wooden plinth]

Hey, is there any players who are willing to help me with the secret auric battle of the Twins?

Pretty please?

[graceful raptor]

lets fucking go

[wooden plinth]

Oh fr?!?! Thank you

[graceful raptor]

3057831253

[graceful raptor]

no voice pls

[wooden plinth]

I'm okay with that

[wooden plinth]

Penance completed. Thank you boss

[cursive granite]

ballz

[eager flame]

Depends a bit on how you use the dog. With max buffs dog can murder any threat it can pounce even on Auric relatively quickly even after the nerfs. Dog will work a little faster if you aren't targeting enemies all over the map but if it pounces Ogryns, etc it will largely be a waste. If you are mostly sending dog after specials you want gone I would suggest adding bleed as well to speed up the time to kill but see how it works and adjust as needed.

[radiant roost]

I am right now not using the Brittleness or Bleed buffs because I am trying to direct it after enemies it can pounce on and kill such as specials and gunners. It sounds as if the bleed is only for enemies that are knocked away and Brittleness I imagine is for Crushers?

[cold crescent]

Is there anyone willing to help get True Survivor?

[eager flame]

Brittleness will work on Flak, Unyielding or Carapace but mostly helps with big enemies like Crushers. The bleed will help with anything to die faster. The dog game boils down to how many points do you feel comfortable spending to keep the time to kill low enough to send the dog after something else sooner. If the dog is killing pounced enemies with electrocute only in a second or less then it doesn't matter. I suspect without bleed they will die in 3-5 seconds if elite/special is pounced unless you plan on assisting the kill. If memory serves the brittleness will also increase the size of the bleed DoTs on susceptible enemies.

[eager flame]

I suggest reposting in the Vox-LFG channels below for your region(s). People do Havoc assists from time to time there. Often on the weekends. Keep scanning the vox-lfg. Gameplay-help channel is much less populated at least for now.

[cold crescent]

Excellent thank you.

[sand sun]

I've had disconnects happening to my group to a crazy degree lately, to the point that it kicks a friend out nonstop when he tries to reconnect. There's almost no chance it's a connection issue since his Discord comms are perfectly clear while Darktide is breaking. Is this a known issue with a solution?

[vocal nacelle]

maybe this

[shadow skiff]

The bleed applies to pounced on targets. Skipping it is just less damage done to the primary target. It's only nerfed in the, it only applies once now instead of twice like it used to.

[leaden turret]

Ive managed to double the Lua heap succesfully in vortex. You need to add a tool in the dash board. Target the launch executable and add the command we've discussed from the -- only. Steam confirms the setting. Ive confirmed the heap size by watching the heap exceed 1024 without crash. I can now run moded with no OOM crash for over 6 hours. . . I'll go touch grass now.

[fossil yacht]

what is that Dark Rites counter on the top right of the screen and waht happens when it fills up

[steep silo]

they kill wolfer forever

[fossil yacht]

gona gather 5million dark rites melt them into the anvil and drop it on him

[strange thunder]

it's event related, community goal

so the more skulls we decode in the event we prob get more aquilas or something

tho I doubt it'll scale much more than 500 that the other aquilas event have been

[dark kindle]

ello what platform is it?

there is a cooldown in this perk
how long it is?

[keen flume]

only console

theres no indication whats the specific console they playing

[dark kindle]

hmm i think i see xbox emblem some time

[void forge]

Hammer of judgement does not have a cooldown

[dark kindle]

just smash 3 and allways will be +10 nice thx

[keen flume]

Just keep chaining the hits and it will never drop

[void forge]

Pretty sure this indicates gamepass or console players in general

[dark kindle]

thx m8s

[naive reef]

Hiya, re-blessing a weapon i've fully mastered but I'm missing some options and idk why they're greyed out. I'm 5/8

I thought fully mastering a weapon unlocked all the modifications. is there any where that explains any of this? TIA

[patent jasper]

did you actually spend the mastery points yet?

[naive reef]

I have yes, ill try restart the game

no luck :(

id share screenshots but im unable to

it's 500, orange, I've unlocked all the masteries, but my IV blessings are 5/8

[void forge]

Keep chatting to get image perms. You need the convict role

[naive reef]

ok cheers

[safe lichen]

Anyone else not able to play the new Event games, after exiting them once?

[muted fiber]

I tried to join my friend but it says im still loading even tho im in the morningstar any way to fix it?

[pulsar pilot]

Is there a mod which can track how much stagger you do? For example, the "Slam" talent node on Ogryn? Uptime mod doesn't seem to track it, so idk how to tell how effective that node is.

[near otter]

Okay I have a huge question I literally have done everything someone help me out I deleted the game and redownloaded it and it is still saying teammates is not available for matchmaking

[prime solar]

anyone else having issues loading into the game or the social tabs not working?

[near otter]

Yea

Yessss

I can’t get in the game at all

I deleted the game and redownloaded it and it will not do anything

[void forge]

I can see you are playing on ps5 most likely

is there a PSN outage maybe?

looks like that could be it, I would wait a few hours for the outage to be resolved

[near otter]

Okay thank u so much

[near otter]

Still doin it and it ain’t PlayStation

[potent nacelle]

Have you accidentally switched it to private? It looks like that's what it's saying above "mission terminal options."

[near otter]

I have switched it too

Okay guys I finally found it

Omg I had to turn off crossplay and turn it but on

Okay it didn’t fix but I just can’t cross play anymore

[jovial thicket]

I can’t get into any games what’s going on? Just came back to game

My things public but says teammate not available for matchmaking

[void forge]

Try turning off crossplay. There seems to be some problem with PSN right now

[undone maple]

So, if I wanted to get someone to give me gameplay help by playing the game with me and teaching me stuff, would I do that in lfg?

[vocal nacelle]

here or lfg both works

[rich smelt]

I've seen Warhammer franchise is on discount and I also noticed that Arbites and Hive Scum has some differences on Steam reviews. Are they that bad as people say?

[void forge]

No the steam reviews are cry babies who can't handle when something that breaks the game's balance gets deservedly nerfed

[shadow skiff]

People angy about nerfs. Arby is still the class that teaches you bad habits by being tanky in ways no other class can be. Scum is still the only class that can top a good psyker in damage if equally skilled.

[graceful raptor]

hive scum have bad reviews cause 1) people expected admech on release and 2) FS nerfed ammo replenishing perk

[vocal nacelle]

the infinite ammo perk got nerfed

[shadow skiff]

Scum does require knowing the game well enough to play since they are extremely paper.

IF you get hit anyway.

[rich smelt]

Then I don't think Scum would be a class for me 🤣

[shadow skiff]

Most players that complain basically skill issued and cannot play a glass cannon melee.

[vocal nacelle]

have you tried knife/tac axe zealot?

[rich smelt]

Where can I watch a really good video about Arbites showing what it has and does?

[vocal nacelle]

or scier gaze melee pskyer

[vocal nacelle]

hive scum is around this times 2

[shadow skiff]

Trade any def for more damage.

LUL.

[rich smelt]

The old bleeding one? I never liked it

[vocal nacelle]

just any build, hivescum is faster than that

arbites is like a mix of zealot and ogryn

[rich smelt]

I don't like glasscannons because I'm just bad with them

[shadow skiff]

With a tiny bit of vet.

[rich smelt]

So I think I will buy the Arbites

[rich smelt]

I really like how that sounds since I really like both of them

[vocal nacelle]

• dog

can save you from poxhound

[rich smelt]

Doggo is always good

[shadow skiff]

Basically, Arby is the easiest class to pick up and play.

Which is always funny it's paid DLC.

[rich smelt]

Shit but the new class is also coming up

.<

[vocal nacelle]

you have 1 month

[graceful raptor]

arby is really nice for novice players, can confirm

[rich smelt]

Enough time to get another sallary

good eye

[shadow skiff]

New class is likely going to be OP, but could end up like Scum where ppl skill issued so hard, they buffed the class even when not quite needed.

[rich smelt]

There is not a gameplay yet right?

Just the cinematic

[shadow skiff]

No good gameplay, yep.

I don't trust Fatshark's own gameplay vids since they seem to be played by someone who only plays sedation.

[dapper shard]

One can expect „good” gameplay videos/content embargo to be lifted in like… 3 weeks? And that’s a maybe.

Might be like 2-3 days before release 💀

[shadow skiff]

Well, anything is usually better than Fatshark's own... Based on the last two classes.

[opal moth]

Oh yeah, tanky with good guns is a fun combo

Def made me think I was better at the game than I really was for a lil bit

[opal moth]

I have this issue with a lot of gameplay footage for trailers and stuff

Esp pvp games

I wanna see how the game plays not how it looks

[dense tulip]

proper gameplay usually looks a a tad too messy for promos

[naive reef]

I was wondering what the deal with the weapon stats is? sometimes it's 60% in one stat and 80% in the rest, sometimes it's all over the place, what does one do to get the least amount of wasted stats?

[shadow skiff]

Nothing. They always add up to the same amount maxed.

The right number totals up to the same.

You just need to find the dump stat.

[naive reef]

ahh okay thank you so its totally rng that determines where the stats fall

[shadow skiff]

Yep. And you only need to care about the right number. The left one will match the right at 500 power. Just need to upgrade at Hadron.

[naive reef]

cool ok cheers

is there any where that explains the gearing process? I think I saw somewhere that curios cap at 410 for good stats or something

*410+ are best stats rather but that was from an old reddit post so idk

[shadow skiff]

That's true. 420+ Is perfect. 410 can still roll below max. 430 is max.

Basically, look for 17% Toughness, 21% HP and +3 Stam.

[naive reef]

Great, cheers mate

[fleet cypress]

need at least 410 for +3 stam

unless they finally fixed 400

[safe lichen]

People down to their last life -- & they don't care to take free, pinged, in your face medicae?

This has been more common in my game experiences than not.

Does the ping not show up for some players at a set distance?

[smoky ember]

if its a zealot and they have a lot of wounds, they could be running martyrdom

otherwise, they may think another player needs it more than them, or it just slips their mind

[safe lichen]

Definitely not Zealots.

[lime idol]

nah it could also just be a 6-wound non-martyr zealot

the bane of my existence (I've encountered them more times than I'd like to)

[smoky ember]

fatmangus my beloved

[lime idol]

That’s 4 wounds tho

[thick surge]

Help I can't click the make preset thing.

[thick surge]

It fixed itself.

[safe lichen]

The 15 acquilas, don't seem available to claim yet?

Even though we hit its 10 million mark.

[patent jasper]

they gotta put out the little lore blurb like they did for 5 mil and also set next milestone up too

[silent furnace]

anyone know why i cant put Carackatus Potts? as my name?

[clear plume]

Pot

I assume

But idk

Spaces aren't allowed too

[quaint cargo]

Can't collect 15 aquilas

[eager flame]

The first one took about 300K over the cap to unlock. Server sync issue or something like that. Should be obtainable now unless there is a new issue.

[naive osprey]

same

[naive osprey]

its not attainable for m

[shadow skiff]

Just be patient. Might just require someone on back end to flip it because of jank coding.

[naive osprey]

yup thats what i figured, jw if maybe it was mods

[sharp mountain]

I was just able to collect

[pulsar pilot]

New to Havoc and holy f at the twins + blight. Ima stick to aurics.

[shadow skiff]

You need a beacon zealot or a supply scum and a smoke vet.

Makes that easier.

[haughty wren]

when picking curios, is +max hp or +toughness better?

for zealot, if its any relevant

[shadow skiff]

Depends on what is killing you. Toughness is better till havoc where hp can be valued higher depending.

Mostly because toughness is nerfed harder the higher you go.

[eager flame]

For zealot I recommend HP given that the talent tree gives you a lot of solid ways to regen toughness including all of the ults and getting back to full toughness gives you protection from one melee hit which is quicker to obtain if your overall Toughness is smaller. It depends on how you build that class though and what you plan to have to take out yourself primarily (and how). Zealot is mostly a melee oriented with ideal ranged at close to mid range though it is possible to spec out of these guidelines to a degree. Once you know how to protect yourself and have a team dedicated to facilitating this goal you will find that extra HP/Toughness becomes more and more irrelevant. Sure can help with randoms and soloing however.

[graceful raptor]

take 2 toughness and 1 hp

these essays...

[haughty wren]

is ok i love essays. i love being spoonfed

is +wounds irrelevant the higher i go?

[shadow skiff]

No. Unless martyrdom.

Then you only want 2 of them to max out buffs.

But only worth it if you can play without ever getting hit at that point.

[eager flame]

Wound zealot (bottom middle keystone) benefits greatly from 6-7 wounds. Holy Revenant shouldn't regen enough HP to make you lose stacks with 7 wounds. Wounds give you much more total HP than just adding HP curios but require getting revived by team members which can be trivial for them if they invest in revive speed and have a stealth ult in particular. Your goal is to play safe enough at low HP to not get hit again until you have Until Death/Holy Revenant to trigger.

[haughty wren]

yea, im running martyrdom, and i have 5 wounds on heresy, but i think i dont really need it that bad, if i happen to end up having 4 wounds eaten the team's probably going down anyway at that point

[shadow skiff]

Is more about the buffs you get.

You get up to 5 stacks, so 6 wounds min to max out.

Unless something changed.

[haughty wren]

true true

i was thinking, since i only play on heresy max, i probably dont need martyrdom THAT bad, if i happen to go down 3+ times on heresy the team's probably dying anyway

even tho the atk spd buff from wounds r interesting

[shadow skiff]

Probably doesn't matter as much in heresy since breakpoints are quite lenient there in comparison.

[shadow skiff]

You don't need to go down.

Just need to lose enough hp to have 5 bars empty.

[haughty wren]

whaaaat

i just need to be low hp? no need to go down and have the purple bars?

[shadow skiff]

Yes.

Just stand in barrel fire lul.

[haughty wren]

OOOOHHHH i thought i NEED to have the purple wounds

also do dodges have iframes. or im dodging to get out of range

[shadow skiff]

My GF does it for max bonk lul.

[shadow skiff]

Dodge have very little iframes, is more about breaking enemy tracking.

[eager flame]

Dodging keeps enemies from tracking you and that period is kind of like i-frames but you can still take damage like if standing in fire or hit by something that was aimed at someone else and you dodge into it (like a net).

[haughty wren]

oh so when a big ass hammer enemy overhead swings me, i should just fuck off from there, instead of iframing it like it's dark souls?

[shadow skiff]

If you can, yes. Dodge to right or left.

Do not dodge back unless you are using knoife or DS.

[eager flame]

A crusher overhead you want to wait until the hammer is starting to come down and dodge to the left or right so they can't track you as the overhead lands. Only backdash if you are far enough away to avoid the move entirely which has a large AoE.

[haughty wren]

ok got it, so instead of trying to iframe just get the hell away from it. ok thx guys

[shadow skiff]

You still wanna time dodges if no room to kite.

[haughty wren]

rn im just spamming dodges inbetween swings when clearing hordes and hope im doing something proper

[eager flame]

Jump every so often to reset your effective dodge count otherwise too much dodge spam will give you worse dodging over time. There is an effective dodge counter below the stamina bar by default now.

[shadow skiff]

For normal enemies and such, sure. Doing that against maulers and crushers is a bad idea.

[mortal juniper]

I wish they'd add an in-game explanation to a lot of the stats listed on weapons. Would be nice to know what exactly 'mobility' and 'collateral' do. Or 'finesse'.

[haughty wren]

yeah i guess for crushers ill just try my best to circle them. against maulers since i use relic blade i just treat them like any other special and just swing faster than them

[shadow skiff]

Inspect weapon.

[haughty wren]

they actually do, inspect weapon, then mouse hover on the stats

[eager flame]

You can click Inspect in the upper right on the weapon in your inventory and hover over the stats for more detail about what things each stat affects.

[shadow skiff]

Aim for body unless your melee has high finesse.

For maulers.

[haughty wren]

yeah with the relic blade since im using the one with the vanguard light attacks, i just spam leftclick and roughly aim for the neck

[eager flame]

Several enemies in flak/carapace armor have a weakpoint in their crotch which you can exploit with guns even if melee is hard to swing and hit there. Crushers only have a weakpoint on backstab and around the neck (sides of the faceplate) though.

[haughty wren]

thanks boss

[mortal juniper]

What about things like impact and suppression?

[eager flame]

More so a stat you will need to keep track of in your head and monitor feedback from enemies in terms of how many hits to make them flinch or topple. There is a cap on both and I believe it goes above +100% but not much more than that. The stagger seems to be somewhat determined by the weapon you use or attack type as well. For example, dueling sword can stack Strength to stagger everything up to a Crusher but the mace and shield with Hammerblow can topple a Crusher on his back (quite quickly if you have bonus impact from the talent tree to reach the cap faster). Similarly, suppression tends to work better/faster with impact weapons (bullets > lasers) but a Veteran with talent tree suppression buffs can use almost anything to stop something shooting. You can suppress entire gunmen groups with bigger munitions though (like boltgun).

[muted pumice]

So I don't currently incorporate really any talents that work around Perfect Blocks in my builds.
I know the sound cue for when they proc, and so I do at least know I am doing some. But tbh I've always assumed that it's very high risk for mediocre reward - and likewise had reservations about how a sudden moment of latency could spell disaster.

Anyone have any experience running this playstyle, and is it particularly worth it?

[smoky ember]

perfect block is dependant on talents/blessings, alone it does nothing

really the most ive seen people get value out of perfect block builds is with devils claw

[muted pumice]

Oh yeah - sorry what I meant was - are talents that proc off it worth taking?

Like there's some stuff on arb that sounds alright, but I've not ran them because I'd need to actively fish for perfect blocks to get enough up time for them to be worthwhile taking.

[smoky ember]

in my experience, not really

on arby maybe

but

i dont play arby

[muted pumice]

no parry either

[stable thistle]

is there a certain operator level i need to get to in order to start seeing perfect rolls in brunts armory?

[shadow skiff]

Just pure luck tbh.

30 makes 80 80 80 80 60 more common though.

[stable thistle]

i just didnt want to waste my credits if my hive scum is only lvl 24 atm

[shadow skiff]

But you can roll it even at lvl 1 if you are lucky.

[stable thistle]

i knew it was luck as i've farmed it a lot on other classes but they were all 30 when they changed crafting

[shadow skiff]

Just more expensive to get to 500.

[stable thistle]

yeah id rather just wait since i have a couple of different classes i want to gear up

and i know ill be resource starved before i know it

dont need super good wpn rolls in malice/heresy anyways

[shadow skiff]

Is why ppl just say to play with the free drops till 30, then roll for the weapons you like.

[warm anvil]

is there a moding channel ? there is a mod that keep crashing me mid match (i reckon scoreboard)

[keen flume]

Mods can be discussed here but theres a modding community server

[dense tulip]

https://discord.gg/rKYWtaDx4D

[warm anvil]

thanks

[civic kindle]

any idea what could cause the event's global progress bar to overlap with the objectives during missions?

[strange thunder]

I have the same problem, but objectives usually don't matter that much when you know all the maps atp

[civic kindle]

yeah but it's still weird

I've seen gameplay from people without the issue, too

[strange thunder]

well it's not something I could fix with custom hud, they're not separate hud elements

and I haven't really cared to see if it's some other mod issue

[acoustic sphinx]

Do we know if fstshark will try to optimize darktide more for steam deck systems playing at 15 fps is crippling when something like hd2 can run at 30

[eager flame]

I can't see optimization being a priority for Fatshark with regard to most things. It is already somewhat of a miracle that it runs on the deck at all. Perhaps cloud streaming will make it more feasible but I don't see that becoming mainstream anytime soon let alone becoming backwards compatible for Darktide on Tencent's dime, sadly.

[acoustic sphinx]

So time to play decktide at a blisteringly fast 15 to 10 fps or the equivalent of playing skitarii from the servo skull pov

[eager flame]

https://www.protondb.com/app/1361210 You may want to peruse here to optimize configurations on your end. With low settings I believe it is possible to hit 30 FPS but I can see that being impaired by horde density and/or network issues.

[acoustic sphinx]

Ok I see

[eager flame]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/zoxqxd/guide_to_dark_tide_enjoyable_performance_and/ Here is an outdated guide for settings also. Some things may have changed over time.

[eager flame]

You may want to look into disabling mesh_streamer_settings in the settings_common.ini as well. Here is a guide: https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/low-quality-assets/100616/12

Not sure how it works on Steam deck but it will improve performance on PC.

[acoustic sphinx]

Well I mean if you think hard enough

Steam decks are just pcs

[eager flame]

Yeah I know. Just not familiar with them enough personally to guarantee what to expect from tweaks like that on a Steam deck in particular.

[normal flame]

The falter blessing on the shock maul says "additionally increases ranged stagger" just for holding it or? Unsure what the intention is

[fleet cypress]

Falter is on infantry and helbore lasguns

And vigil autogun

[sharp mountain]

How often do the expedition gridpoints reset

[eager flame]

So far it hasn't hit a consistent stride but say every 2-6 weeks to date. May settle around monthly.

[sharp mountain]

Chur

[coarse herald]

Is it just me or do match queues feel much longer?

Quickplay used to feel instant, now it takes half a minute. Queuing in Europe at around 7pm

[eager flame]

Population will be lower than usual prior to the June update as many players give the game a break in anticipation of playing more in the near future. May affect some difficulties more than others in QP.

[coarse herald]

Makes sense

[vivid warren]

is it a known bug for poxhounds to be running straight through walls? and how often should i expect it to happen because i think its happened a couple of times to me now with at least 1 time being 100% positive that it happened

[eager flame]

Hounds through walls should be pretty rare. They may be going through doors that appear closed on your end however as there are enemies that have initiative to act immediately when the door open occurs often before the animation of the door opening takes place on your end. May be a new bug that has changed their behavior as well but I have not experienced this yet or you may have a high ping connection to a server which can make enemies do lots of weird things like flying.

[safe lichen]

When knocked inside one of those, closet spawning doors (e.g. Comms Plex final environment, by the stairs), is there any way to get out of there?

[clear plume]

get grabbed by a disablers from the other side

very difficult but not impossble

fastest way is to either alt f4 and rejoin or just jump off the map if possible

[safe lichen]

Yea, that's what I had tried at first. Held out for awhile, but poxbursters piled up before any more hounds & mutants could get to me.

[dim hinge]

Is there a guide in this server to clarify difference between crushers having carapace armor but being unyielding enemies? Does it matter for any perks or damage or can I just call then carapace effectively

[void forge]

they are not unyielding at all

just carapace

you might be thinking of the "ogryn" tag from talents like Heavyweight

[clear plume]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3568035743&searchtext=enemy

Kuli's enemy guide

[radiant roost]

For the Bully Club IIIb do you actually just light attack every enemy at all times? No push attack or heavy combos for any situation?

[vivid warren]

im unsure if it was high ping but i dont think it was im not really sure how to check and while it was sorta near a door again i dont know the game well enough to be sure im unsure how to get permission to post a video lol

[eager flame]

You need to reach Convict status (time based) to post vids, etc. I think it is Red name but not positive. It was probably a door then. Many of the monster closets have doors that look a lot like walls but they will slide open to reveal a black room with monsters pouring out of them. Some enemies can leap through before the door open animation starts from time to time particularly if they are alone behind the door.

[eager flame]

Pretty much. The bottom left keystone with +cleave helps and the weapon blessing to apply brittleness so you can deal damage to armor. Buff attack speed from the bottom left talent nodes as well. Might use heavy attack as an opener especially to apply more bleed stacks to start against bigger enemies but light attacks will finish everything off.

[radiant roost]

Appreciate all of your helpful replies

[vivid warren]

well i can dm you so you can see it if you are ok with that semi sus method lol

[eager flame]

Yeah np

[eager flame]

In that vid it could be a clipping issue with the room on the other side for that map in particular. It is also possible to see enemies "teleport in" if you are split from the group and it is sending an enemy at another player but they spawn in at/near your location. Usually they are out of sight but the game does just let the director spawn hordes/specials in out of visual range of the teammate being targeted.

[vivid warren]

yeah i thought it might be something like that but i was not all that far from the team i only stepped back a little because i heard the dog spawn a few seconds before the clip started

[eager flame]

Yeah the dog was still "out of sight" from where the team was upon loading in. If it spawned in the room behind you would never see it but the coding is optimized in such a way that you will catch enemies popping in out of thin air from time to time as you reposition. In particular they will do that from behind you with regard to map orientation.

[errant sequoia]

anyone know why havoc is locked for me? i was just playing it

[vocal nacelle]

If it's party finder, reset the filter

If your havoc got locked wait for couple minutes maybe

[errant sequoia]

ah ok ty

it was a filter lol

[opal cobalt]

How often does support respond to submitted tickets? I accidentally bought a Veteran bundle in the shop instead of a Zealot bundle.

[dense tulip]

pretty often. On top of that, support is generally very good sport about cosmetic refunds

[somber halo]

Can you skip the campaign missions?

[little coyote]

With subsequent characters after the first, yes. Not sure if there's a way to skip them the first time around though

[somber halo]

Dam that means I have to do them thanks for the info

[keen flume]

Mission terminal options that is prompted on bottom right

[worn zodiac]

Is there any reason to do expeditions? Like more Plasteel etc?

[bitter violet]

The main goal is the penances tbh.

The mode exists purely for its own sake.

[worn zodiac]

[fast quail]

does damage resistance (bombers) on curios reduce damage from poxbursters? what type of enemy is it?

[patent jasper]

bomber resist will not help against poxbursters, iirc theres no damage resist that even applies against poxbursters,
best solution would just be grabbing health curio.

[fast quail]

thanks

[safe lichen]

So I got a 61---80-80-80-80 weapon.

Is the 61 a (however minimal) genuine effect in game, or is it a graphic error?

[fleet cypress]

Technically yeah

All the rolls are decimals just rounded in ui

[void forge]

Well yes, but actually no

I think the way it actually works is that the weapon still has the same amount of max stats as any other weapon, but the rounding error just makes it appear as if one only one stat is inflated. In reality the decimal values of the other stats will be lower to make up the same total pool of stats

[sour pulsar]

Anyone knows if the 2 upcoming shielded enemies on june 23rd will feature breakable shields? Like the wooden ones in vermintide 2

[vocal nacelle]

Nope, expect the worst

Probably stormvermin shield if it's elite

[fleet cypress]

They're staggerable right

Right

[patent jasper]

given that theyll be human sized i sure hope so

[safe lichen]

So, what is it?

Actual 61 effect, or technically nothing?

[void forge]

its more like 60.8 and 79.80x4

[safe lichen]

Gotcha

So not true 80.

[void forge]

if you want to think about it that way. in reality this small percentage makes virtually no difference

[fleet cypress]

Only time this rounding bs actually matters is 400 power stam curios

[void forge]

pretty sure they fixed that

[fleet cypress]

Would hope so by now 💀

[wild notch]

Best way to get vets long bomb pen? I'm trying smoke bomb now

[timber star]

whats with me loading a mission that says it has a secondary scrip/grim and no available scrip/grim on the mission details

[pliant willow]

This is an abomination

Is there any cheat to do this?

It's disrespectful by just existing

[cyan viper]

Just don't it lmao

[strange thunder]

play on malice, vet or zealot with invis, there's a mod that lets you show like all pickups on a map, and then it's just grind and pick it all up while ignoring objectives

[patent jasper]

Generally just getting a few poxwalkers around you then throwing straight upwards and waiting for it to explode works, otherwise you could go on the one fan mid event map and throw it into a horde from the other side of the arena
If you quick toss with your light attack button instead of holding it down it’ll have a slightly shorter fuse

[pliant willow]

You might average 200 scraps per game and each game is ca 20 min. That is 166 hours of just GRINDING

Even if you got 800 scraps per game you can barely motivate this type of bs

[vocal nacelle]

wait for june expedition update

[strange thunder]

nah you can reach 1000 easily in 30 mins or so

[lost hinge]

Im having trouble with private lobbies to only to find this message, has the devs addressed the issue or is it going to be one of those bugs that just won't be fixed like the twins boss fight and bots being unable to be in the fight?

[shadow skiff]

Nothing is said about it. You just are forced to play public and deal with them.

Maybe it might be fixed during the Skitarii release with the expeditions update.

[lost hinge]

god hoping

[eager flame]

4 people running 1/4 of the map each in 4 out of 5 zones will net 1200-1500 salvage per run. Takes 35 hours or so. Combine it with 100 wins on Skitarii and you will still have more runs left on Skitarii when you finish.

[mortal juniper]

For the Penance Discipline & Teamwork, what counts as "sharing ammo or health packs"?

Just deploying the placeable ones ?

[eager flame]

Only deployable ammo crates or med stations count. Only 1 use per med station per teammate (they just have to touch it once) so just drop them in airlocks at the door opening when the rest of the team needs some HP.

[serene nymph]

does someone know what is more platesteel efficient when leveling up a masterie for a weapon
concestrating weapons to blue or yellow

got only 30k platesteel 33k diamante and 11 million of this other rescourse

so platesteel is what i basicly need to save up the most

[eager flame]

Buy grey weapons at brunt and upgrade them to green before sacrificing for weapon XP. You can use higher tier weapons for more XP but the difference between green and orange is not even double. Make sure the weapon type matches the weapon you are upgrading for more XP as well.

[serene nymph]

oh so you say green is the most platesteel efficient ?

[eager flame]

Yeah. If you are starving for resources you may not want to spam purchase at Brunt just yet but the cost to upgrade to green is way more efficient than upgrading further will be. If you earn an orange from a mission you can sacrifice that as well it just costs too much to consecrate blue or higher in relation to XP earned.

[serene nymph]

i am not realy starving for rescourses but platesteel is what i have the least

i kinda hoped that i can save platesteel when i sacrifice more diamante

[eager flame]

And you will use twice as much plasteel just by upgrading to blue. You won't use any diamantine upgrading to green but combat mastery mostly burns through dockets and plasteel when farming. For quite a while plasteel has been the scarcest resource in the Darktide universe due to how often you need to spend it.

Don't forget to do a Havoc each week for a bundle of resources (whatever difficulty you can easily complete).

[serene nymph]

well thanks for your adivce
i didnt expect diamante to be the rescourse which you will always have penough of

[eager flame]

Oh you will burn through diamantine if you start pumping 500 mastery into weapons or consecrating to orange often. But most people don't do that outside of the weapon they plan to use.

[serene nymph]

i basicly just play the game
and if i feel like using a new weapon i just level up the masterie with sacrifices
and then bump up one of the weapons i plan to use to 500

Auric and those constant events give you good amount of rescourses

[eager flame]

Yeah then you will probably feel starved for plasteel for a while then. The events are def good. Havoc pays out every Sunday reset and is another solid haul.

[serene nymph]

well i got 30k platesteel but every time i leveled up a weapon i just felt like how my platesteel just vanishes compared to all other rescourses

[eager flame]

Yep!

[serene nymph]

and i have the urge to be as rescourse efficient as possible

when doing that

so when ever if feel like trying out something new

i can just do that

without having to grind first

[cerulean heath]

The types of armour, has anyone got a list of how to describe which category each fit into? I mean like the flak, carapace, unyielding etc

[pastel forge]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3568035743

[quick viper]

I been using execution order, a few rounds it activated like every 20 seconds. Now it just never does. No idea why, any way to fix it? (arbites)

[lucid solar]

any other mode than normal mission gives decent xp and plasteel?

[strange thunder]

auric maelstrom is prob your best bet for time spent

[bitter musk]

How do I assist players in completing their havoc assignments? I like the helmet I get for assisting 50 people

[keen sonnet]

Join their lobbies

Win

[cerulean heath]

I took so long reading it, I forgot to thank you MY BAD

[bitter musk]

How do I join the lobbies?

I’ve never done one

[keen sonnet]

Yk the table on the right side of the mourningstar, with the commissar by where you come back from missions?

You walk up there and click party finder, or hit it from menu

[bitter musk]

I just request to join someone’s team right?

Do I need 4 people to start?

[keen sonnet]

Yeah, you only need 2, and fwiw difficulty starts at 1 around malice and scales all the way to 40 which is beyond auric

I'm not sure what the equivalent havoc rank to auric is anymore tbh

[bitter musk]

What is auric

[keen sonnet]

Maximum standard difficulty

[graceful raptor]

what is fwiw

[keen sonnet]

For what it's worth

[eager flame]

Assuming you have the keystone equipped and are killing enemies highlighted purple you should be getting the benefits of Execution Order. It is possible the buffs don't show up on screen by default unless you take the Keeping Protocol add-on which will show you stacks in the default unmodded buff pool. The basic Execution Order will just give you some toughness back after killed a marked enemy.

[quick viper]

What does a mark look like

[bitter musk]

If I am the one who started the post for everyone to join am I still helping people?

[eager flame]

Purple circle with a number on it that goes from 1-30 with each enemy killed that was highlighted by Execution Order. Should be in the bottom left of screen. If you have Keeping Protocol at least.

[quick viper]

I mean what does a marked enemy look like

How do i know if I'm killing the right one

I will try that for the sake of trouble shooting though

[eager flame]

They will have a purple glow. Kind of like a tagged enemy can be red (or yellow if Vet has the Keystone for that). Will affect monstrosities, specials, elites. Triggers every several seconds and can have more than one highlighted purple. May trigger faster with other Arbites who have that keystone equipped.

[quick viper]

Tyty ill look for that

Which symbol is for impact damage?

[grizzled perch]

Hey, can anyone explain to me how the Dark rites work? I cannot find any explanation of that event, how should I find what missions exactly work under the event?

Oh, and hello everyone. I've just joined the game and i find it awesome so far

Should the skulls drop at every mission? I've only seen them once, and can't figure it out

[lime portal]

there are always two missions on the mission board which have the event tag on them

pick them if you want to do the event

[grizzled perch]

is it the "totem" icon?

[void forge]

Its the Inquisition symbol

[graceful raptor]

isnt the event available only at 3-5 difficulties?

maybe he cant see it cause he didnt open other difficulties tho

ah he said he saw sculls, nm

[void forge]

It looks like this but orange

[grizzled perch]

Thank you very much!!

Now I get it

[cerulean heath]

IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET DREGS OVER SCABS??? I ONLY GET SCABS and I need 200 dregs but they get sprinkled in like 5 b2b scab spawns

[grizzled perch]

During the mission under TAB there is a description with that icon, so I thought it might be not this case

[lime portal]

event

[cerulean heath]

Dregs spawn on the event more than scabs?

[graceful raptor]

no

[cerulean heath]

😭

I never get dregs, only scabs and when I get dregs, they're never there long enough

[eager flame]

Look for Maelstroms with the Dreg Only modifier. They are quite rare these days. Also, I believe some of the Campaign missions are majority Dreg or Majority Scab although I don't have them memorized. I know the desert maps tend to be at least 60% dreg generally.

[cerulean heath]

Sweet, thank you for the advice

[strange thunder]

idt I've ever seen a dreg only maelstrom modifier

[eager flame]

quite rare

[graceful raptor]

also never seen dreg only modifier lmao

trollink i guess)))

[strange thunder]

ye I looked up and it isn't a thing anymore at least

[graceful raptor]

i suggest not caring about that weekly, these melk rubles are useless for the most part anyway

[tame cypress]

you can play the campaign missions
1-4 are primarily scabs, 5-8 are primarily dregs

[cerulean heath]

It gives me an excuse to play the character tbh, I like using them to get a max version of a weapon and good mastery fodder from the random requisitions too

[lusty vortex]

Quick question, which class is the best to play for someone new to Darktide?

[stoic locust]

Probably zealot or veteran

[clear plume]

Vet or Zealot

leaning towards zealot more

[lusty vortex]

Thank you, I will try those first. 😄

[velvet quiver]

yo I got a weird question. Why does the Tech Hunter (3) penance show a red chest piece and black one, but only gives you the black pair? Also there's the same thing for a red helmet and pants penances, all related to the Expeditions mode. Any ideas?

[eager flame]

There were some errors regarding cosmetics around the launch of Expeditions. It is possible you are getting a sneak peak of red armor that will be released with "Tech Hunter 4 Obtain 500,000 remnants" down the road. Fatshark makes more cosmetics than they release in their games. Could be they have an image uploaded by mistake for armor we may never see. But expeditions will likely see more content over the next year at least in some form.

[velvet quiver]

Yup, highly plausible. I see it because I have a mod, but I'm saying it's plausible due to me noticing the pattern you mentioned above. I've seen a red/blue relic blade in the shop, 1 month before the release, I've seen the same with a shovel, again blue/red... I'm more than willing to agree on that theory. Also, there seem to be 3 ogryn helmet variants that I've seen that are for the gold shop that have just been sitting there for quite a while and I honestly have no clue what that's about. But thank you for the insight, that point of view was super helpful

[eager flame]

You need to look for Havoc missions other people are posting to get credit for helping them in the penance. Any Havoc level will work. In Party Finder clear all search parameters with E (or equivalent console button detailed at bottom of Party FInder screen) Most of the results should be Havoc missions anyways.

[digital cobalt]

how exactly does "current stamina" work? i have something that gives me +2 stamina, but the stamina "blocks" are still only at 4?

[lime idol]

Which effects are you talking about

[digital cobalt]

its a curio which gives me +2 max stamina

or do you mean the thin affected by current stmina?

[lime idol]

Ok check interface settings, there’s an option to display stamina as 4-segments always (easier to tell how much u have at a glance imo) but if u turn that off it’ll show ur actual current stamina segments

[eager flame]

Your weapon has a default amount of stamina it will give you which varies by weapon. A knife can be a low as 2. A stamina curio will add the amount of stamina chunks listed to the overall stamina pool so if the default weapon gives you 5 stamina when equipped the total will be 7 and so on. There is a setting in Options --> Interface to display stamina in 25% increments or by individual chunks but the stamina will drain according to the overall stamina pool with either setting you just won't have countable stamina with the 25% version. Some characters have talent tree nodes to add stamina (like Veteran) as well.

[digital cobalt]

that explains a lot

[digital cobalt]

yeah i was familier with like, different weapons giving stamina but was just confused by the segmants

[hearty dove]

I wanted to give Darktide a shot since it was on sale, have no idea where to start. Any one have any good links on class info and builds/ game tips for early starts. Would be super appreciated !

[eager flame]

It will take a while before you need to consider builds but zealot is a good starter class for melee. Veteran is more for the Call of Duty types. Can mix and match quite a bit. This website has several good overviews of weapons, enemies, classes, etc to begin with. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/classes

[vocal nacelle]

learn the basics how to block, dodging

going to get checked on the first mission

[tame cypress]

this is helpful
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1pqp3gs/illithidbixs_guide_to_mastery_empowering_and/

[south kindle]

Is there any recommended power level of weapons for difficulty levels?

Also what is the fastest way to level a new weapon mastery?

[stoic locust]

Buy 300k dockets worth of Grey weapons, upgrade them all to green, then sacrifice all of them

They need to be the same family as the weapon you are trying to master

[odd plinth]

I need to grind dockets I keep running out lol

[eager flame]

Buy grey weapons from Brunt's armory of the same type you plan to upgrade. Consecrate them to green and sacrifice them for weapon XP. Apart from that just using the weapon will level it up over several games.

[south kindle]

Wanted to build recon lasgun for psyker since I found a perfect one

[eager flame]

You can play anything up to Heresy with anything. Damnation and beyond it is best to have a leveled character but if you know how to play you can still hold your own while underleveled. Weapon stats don't increase by the percentage listed (for example 50% to 80% damage does not equal 30% more damage in-game but weapon stats 20% or lower will be quite a difference.

[eager flame]

Do the events every month or so when they pop up. Run a Havoc at the highest level you can beat once each week. Other than that quickplay the highest difficulty you can safely complete or speedrun.

[south kindle]

I was finding heresy a tad rough with power level 200ish gear

Even with them upgraded to orange

Mostly time to kill issues

[eager flame]

You will want right side tree mostly for gun psyker. Recommend crit with burn on crit weapon blessing for recon lasgun. Either the fastest firing or second fastest firing mark is optimal.

[south kindle]

I also realized if I was running a electric staff for just left clicks, might as well use an actual gun

[eager flame]

If you are level 30 you have talent tree nodes that can subvert most weapon power level issues so long as you focus on damage dealing nodes. Some weapons will provide bigger issues if they don't penetrate armor well.

[south kindle]

Still 23 so not full powered yet

I was using bubble and force greatsword as a more support oriented build

[eager flame]

Yeah that is two sources of subpar gear performance. Malice is a solid place to tool up and learn enemy spawn points, AI habits, etc. Heresy can get sticky especially with modifiers affecting the level.

[south kindle]

I've been using malice quick play to farm mastery and mats

Tho I do think heresy is more fun than malice

[eager flame]

Greatsword is slow enough that it can be hard to work with if it isn't killing things as quickly as it should. You may want something faster/more agile to keep pushing through Heresy until you hit level 30. Alternatively Malice is a solid place to keep growing. Don't forget to equip curios and consecrate them at least once so you can take the EXP boost perk to get to level 30 faster.

[south kindle]

In hindsight, I should really get the farming perks on curios

If I'm doing more farming than difficult gameplay

Heresy definitely felt a lot more manageable after I got my mastery high enough for 300

I felt like a liability on my first attempt with 200ish gear and most of my dps was assail which I believe is flat dmg

[eager flame]

More than half the playerbase is a liability between pulling too many enemies, splitting from the team to break coherency, ignoring ranged/specials not going after them, stealing resources, etc. I wouldn't worry about still learning and leveling even on Damnation. Good cooperation will take you farther than getting gear from 300-500 as a rule even if the skill ceiling lets many players practice true soloing with randoms. Leaning on blitz until the mainstay weapons catch up performance wise is a valid strat.

[sonic hedge]

Hey I've got a question that is KILLING me bro
I was playing as Zealot, and had a team of a Hive Scum, Arbites, and Psyker.
SOMETHING one of us had was giving us INSANE movement speed out the wazoo. But we couldn't figure out what.
It seemed to effect everyone in coherency.
I genuinely cannot figure out what.
Any help?

Like INSANE noticable speed.

[south kindle]

AOE stim pack?

[sonic hedge]

Is that a Hive Scum thing?

[eager flame]

Hive scum has stim pack but it shouldn't increase move speed more than 10% with fervor.

But that is still noticeable.

[sonic hedge]

That's so odd...
My Hive Scum might have done that, but it seemed to turn on and off when I was in cohearancy. And it would turn on and off when I entered and left cohearancy.
I don't remember entering any kind of stim ground thing but who knows.

[eager flame]

Yeah that would go away after Stim supply wears off so probably not that.

[eager flame]

I think I may have had that happen in a game of Expedition. Did you see what ults the team was using? Maybe a bug where the movement speed from Desperado applies to the team from Hive Scum (or Shroudfield from Zealot) in coherency?

[vocal nacelle]

event buff

[sonic hedge]

It was at the--

Oh maybe?

[sonic hedge]

I do think it was on an event mission, I didn't know there were buffs

[vocal nacelle]

you get a buff depending how many totem servitor you collected

[sonic hedge]

Ahhhhhhh
That makes perfect sense. I was absolutely ZOOMING it was UNREAL.

[vocal nacelle]

and its only active on coherency

[sonic hedge]

My entire friend group was racking their brains you just saved us so much searching lol
Thanks a bunch m8

[fleet cypress]

No point

Just put +xp on till you hit 30

And spam quick play if you haven't finished campaign

[odd plinth]

Thank you

[pulsar pilot]

If you're on EU, I'd be happy to run Heresy/Damnation with you, for leveling/weapon masteries. Been doing that for friends leveling new characters 🙂

[south kindle]

Unfortunately I'm in Asia

[fleet cypress]

just play on 250 ping its not that bad

[stark pewter]

okay, so is Close Range Damage melee damage too?

[pastel forge]

Its all damage

Unless it specifies only ranged or something

Best way to check is kuli's steam guides

[safe lichen]

Why is -- quickplaying into an ongoing game, default-spawns you with half health, sometimes even with 0 downs -- a design choice?

[graceful raptor]

yes

[radiant roost]

Question about the Rumbler in Havoc play. I tend to see builds that either use Shattering Impact or Shrapnel. However, all seem to use Adhesive Charge. When I use the Rumbler, it seems like it is most effective in mixed hordes and I'm not sure if it worth a grenade to use on Reapers or Crushers or Monsters. Is the popularity of Adhesive Charge to stack Brittleness or Bleed on Monsters? Or am I missing something?

[void forge]

Adhesive charge is generally taken to ensure maximum damage to the primary target. It still has good mixed horde damage, and you get the benefit of one shotting reapers and bulwarks

Or at least doing very good damage to them in havoc

Otherwise the damage to those targets has very high variance because of the unpredictability of the grenade bounce

[clear plume]

all damage within 12.5 meters iirc

[pastel forge]

to be more specific its the full bonus withing 12.5 meters and it diminishes the further the target it until 30m where it doesnt do anything

[steep silo]

depends a bit on what you are doing as well (side arm vs main weapon, like in a gunlugger build)

on gunlugger builds I usually dont even take adhesive

when rotten was around I would go about with shattering and blaze away and decimate everything

but if used as side arm in a taunt build for example, adhesive is good to make sure your shots land on priority stuff

as for shattering vs bleed, shattering can help your whole team since it gives brittleness to enemies with flak/cara/unyielding while bleed just helps with killing

theyre both valid just play around with it and see what you like

[eager flame]

You replace the bot and quite often the bot has gotten himself wrecked by the time you join the match. Even then your stats are typically generous compared to the state of the bot so it may just revert to loading you in the state you would be at after a rescue (missing HP but no wounds and half ammo more or less) if you join shortly after the mission has started or beyond. There have been times where you can take damage upon loading in and enter the game downed as well.

[radiant roost]

Yeah maybe with the way I like to use it I should go with shattering and bleed. But definitely will make me less effective on monsters with the bounces. Probably useless on chaos spawn

[silent furnace]

error code 3013?

[steep silo]

shoot at the ground where the bosses are/are going to be rather than the boss itself

that way you dont bounce too much and get about max dmg

[north cobalt]

How do I deal with the daemon host. He just slaps me or a teammate left and right, kidnaps us, and then leaves before I can count to 4.

[polar forum]

You walk around it and try not to piss it off

You get nothing for beating a DH

[north cobalt]

for real? I just have to cry when facing it? (if it wakes up)

[graceful raptor]

block, dodge, use terrain, hope your teammates help you

[paper haven]

there's a penance for killing your first DH, on the event maps DHs drop extra skulls, and what you're just gonna let a demon live you filthy heretic?

[graceful raptor]

"drop extra skulls" these dont contribute to the number, the number goes up itself

[paper haven]

the number is arbitrary, yes. but it does drop extra skulls regardless of what it does or doesn't do.

[north cobalt]

I will charge head first into every DH now even if it costs the mission

[graceful raptor]

"how to have fun in Darktide 101"

[hearty dove]

im new here, game keeps crashing on me. Only had like 3 mods downloaded not sure if theres a fix?

[void forge]

youre going to have to be more specific

[hollow dock]

okay what the hell is the accatran combat shotgun supposed to be good for

yes the base shots have bigger dmg but the special fire ammo is weird

doesnt seem good for hordes, is it for armor?

[zealous dome]

It's good for being put in the trash

[polar forum]

uhhh suppressing gunners

that might be about it

i mean it's in the name really

assatran

[hollow dock]

☹️

fatshark if u r listening please please do something to the combat shotguns

[vocal nacelle]

shotgun got buffed few updates ago but recent update buff the enemies

play arbites if you want use shotgun

[safe lichen]

Slow-down / lag aside from players taking damage before they fully load in & can move -- was it never a design consideration for, quickplay players to join with full health?

[eager flame]

You may need to see how leaver/rejoiners have abused such systems to consider the compromise that is the current arrangement.

[eager flame]

Shotguns are solid on Vet with the right talent points and blessings for killing anything up to specials and minor elites in 1-2 shots. You want to focus hordes with the fire bullet one and headshots with the slugshot one (which synergizes well with Vet talent tree). The lawbringer is nice if you want to avoid weapon special altogether and just double tap threats with weapon specialist to help you reload. On Zealot the double barrel has some great uses (practically a sniper rifle with the -75% spread on dodge + run and gun blessing). Crit builds with cleave and bleed on crit blessings is also good.

[eager flame]

Mixed horde clear with cleave + bleed on crit assuming you can raise your crit chance pretty high (40% or more).

[eager flame]

Block cost reduction and high stamina can help you kite an aggroed DH once you learn when you can counterhit between the 2-4 hit combos. A team with good CC (chorus zealot/shout ults) and high boss damage can make short work of DH. You still take corruption from fighting them and they don't give you anything for doing so outside of penances and maybe an event down the road so consider them a punishment for carelessness most of the time and a griefer's wet dream.

[eager flame]

If you are going to solo bosses with ranged I would take bleed and adhesive. If you have solid teamwork and plan to engage monstrosities with ranged I would take shatter and adhesive. If you mostly want to keep mixed hordes locked down you can consider bleed + shatter. If you have a gunner ult Ogryn the fire damage alone is solid DoT and I believe Shatter buffs it on appicable targets. Learning floor nade tech can help you avoid the need for adhesive but I don't know if the loss of +15% damage to monstrosities is made up for by the less consistent potential DPS increase of bleed + shatter until you are a pro at predicting where monstrosities will be upon detonation.

[shadow skiff]

I mean, extended fire immunity might be nice. It's most unfun to spawn in on fire and go down because it was an awfully placed one for even the best dodge to get out of. And this assumes godlike reflexes.

Which, if you expect from even just 50% of players is fairly ridiculous.

[eager flame]

It could certainly be different. Like many things in Darktide, "it works".

[woeful pawn]

new to the game, i have question about the weapons, i just have to keep looking for a weapon with 80 on everthing good and 60 on the worst stat?