gameplay-help

[balmy moat]

this area, yeah

[cunning sail]

anybody want to spam some uprising rolling steel with me for dream team?

[balmy moat]

go ask in your regions LFG channel for a better chance of takers

[trail sphinx]

can anyone help me out with mods here ? my game keeps crashing and i cant fix

[balmy moat]

can you send me modlist?

[cunning sail]

you're right but it's kinda specific help I ask instead of playing with people

[trail sphinx]

should i send here ?

[balmy moat]

you can, or DMs, im fine with either

[cunning sail]

try to fresh install your modloader

[trail sphinx]

its one single mods that causes the crashes

[balmy moat]

theres a chance theres a mod that has an issue itself, yeah

[trail sphinx]

i cant send the screenshot here

[cunning sail]

which mod is it?

[balmy moat]

send to me

[simple wigeon]

But I can't just unlock two masteries, right? I have to skill 5 to unlock the new tier?

[balmy moat]

more or less, yes

[simple wigeon]

Second time my entire team died in campain IV. Sometimes there are heavy units than nobody seems to be able to kill and the boss gets shield of out nowhere

[clear plume]

It's fine to lower the difficulty or skip that mission if you need. The game is balanced around players knowing most of the fight mechanics and having high/max gear and player level

[simple wigeon]

But where do I learn the mechanics? Let's say how the boss works and so on

Cus I don't understand the shield out of nowhere and how to crack it

And it's already the easiest difficulty

Or am I not supposed to play the campain directly?

I don't get it

[strange thunder]

the game doesn't teach you that much tbh

[clear plume]

sadly

the fatshark way of teaching is very obscure

its just trail and error

[strange thunder]

while being a veteran/zealot guide, it also teaches you a lot of basics if you wanted to learn more

and if you ever have questions just ask in here or any of the class channels, there's always people around to help

[simple wigeon]

I can dash left, right and back, right? And it's 2 to 4 charges that seem to reset when they run out complelty. What's the benefit of never letting it run out, they seem to recharge quickly anyway

[strange thunder]

you can dodge slide too

which takes two dodges

you should always dodge really

but you don't have to use all of them if it's not really needed

[feral palm]

Hi, any good looking overall hud?

[strange thunder]

well there's custom hud and hud tweaker mods if you want to customize stuff to your liking

[simple wigeon]

There was a mechaic in the proloque, I block and hold attack and it does an animation out of the block. Does that work for all melees?

[strange thunder]

that's a push attack and yes

it's often used to start combos on various weapons as well

or has some very good qualities that normal attacks don't

[simple wigeon]

And combos, currently I'm just making some up while I fight. Light here, heavy there ... is there actually a mechanic behind it where I have to hit certain predefined light/heavy attacks?

[strange thunder]

there are weapon attack flow charts that show how attacks can flow in to each other

but you generally just need to know what combos are good to use on a certain weapon for either single or multi target

[simple wigeon]

I'm using the dueling sword, not sure if it's good, I got one for free. I googled combos for it and they talk about special attacks, what's that?

[strange thunder]

all weapons have a special attack/function, I don't remember what button you use as I've rebind it

but dueling sword in particular has a parry attack

which can negate an attack towards you and hit them back with a special attack that is called parry

it doesn't reflect damage or anything, it's just a really good attack that is particularly strong against ragers

but it costs stamina on successful use and leaves you unable to use other attacks while readying said parry attack

[simple wigeon]

Do I just have to be lucky to get a good distrubtion when buying weapons?

Or does weapon exp play into account?

[balmy moat]

both

if youre max level you'll get better weaponry, but the stat spread is randomised

[simple wigeon]

What do you mean by better weaponry?

[eager flame]

Shields are on at start of any captain fight and they regen after dealing a certain amount of damage or on a timer. Light, rapid hits generally break a shield faster than heavy hits. The shock maul weapon special attack is very good at popping shields assuming the boss is not attacking you. The twins mission is better to come back to in the story campaign after you have reached max level and are upgrading some weapons to customize for the encounter. You can google build recommendations for your character or watch youtube videos depicting the part that is giving you trouble to start committing animations to memory.

[eager flame]

You can also jump to reset dodge counter. The more you spam dodge the shorter and less useful it will become when you run out of effective dodges.

[radiant roost]

With these Special Events is there something to track or some sort of target you can hit for a reward? Where do you view it?

[eager flame]

Hold Tab and Press E to cycle through your Weekly Challenges, Event Rewards and Penance tracker (if any are tracked). They will appear on the right hand side of the screen while holding Tab.

Not sure what it is on console.

[radiant roost]

Awesome thank you

[simple wigeon]

Why can I just switch the Mark of my dueling sword but with my staff it's two different weapons?

[vocal nacelle]

Different projectile and blessing related

[shadow skiff]

Hold back and press X to toggle. At least for Xbox or Xbox equiv controllers.

[manic dust]

I'm fairly new to Darktide but I've started dipping my toes into the endgame stuff... Theres a penance/reward for something along the lines of "help others complete their auric missions" ... What exactly does this mean?

[vocal nacelle]

spam quickplay on auric basically

[shadow skiff]

You mean help with havoc?

[manic dust]

Yeah that, sorry

[shadow skiff]

Join others for their havocs.

[manic dust]

I didnt know what constitutes "helping" someone

Ok, sounds simple enough then, I appreciate it

[shadow skiff]

As long as you win and aren't the host.

[vocal nacelle]

"help" havoc is joining havoc party and let other people host/play their own havoc mission

each player get different havoc mission even if they have same rank

[manic dust]

Does helping people increase your own rank as well?

[vocal nacelle]

your current rank is lower or same than hosted mission yes

[manic dust]

Cool

[vocal nacelle]

if your current rank is higher rank than hosted mission no

[shadow skiff]

Same assignment lvl or theirs is higher.

[manic dust]

Thank you both!

[balmy moat]

other way around

failing havocs below your own rank wont derank you, failing havocs your rank and higher will derank you
completing havoc ranks below wont raise your own rank, completing havocs yours and higher will raise

[vocal nacelle]

i worded it wrong

[tame anchor]

when power supply interruption is added to a havoc, do you get the other modifiers toned down?

[shadow skiff]

Slightly less enemies but still way more than standard auric tbh. Talking very high havocs.

[tame anchor]

ya we playing 30

[simple wigeon]

What do you mean by that?

[vocal nacelle]

there's flamethrower (inferno), lightning (electrokinetic) , bowling ball (voidstrike) , exploding floor (voidblast) staff couple of those have their own unique blessing

try aim down sight while firing on each staff

[simple wigeon]

How am I supposed to know that in advance?

Which weapons share marks and which don't?

[strange thunder]

well marks of a weapon all share the same blessings

different weapons don't have to

so each staff is basically too unique to be different marks of each other

it's not something you need to know in advance, but you can look up all weapons and see which have different marks or not

like just pick a class and browse https://darktide.gameslantern.com/classes

[dawn oracle]

I think it also helps that most if not all weapons that have different marks have Roman numerals somewhere in their names.

This somewhat implies different marks/variants of whatever weapon you are viewing exist.

[obtuse oxide]

hey guys, are the rewards still the same amount for each difficulty lvl in expeditions ?

[pastel forge]

yep

[simple wigeon]

Is there a button to auto light attack? Or do I just have to spam left mouse?

In Warframe there's an accessibility option to for auto attack semi weapons

and melee

[balmy moat]

you have to click manually, or get mods for it

[simple wigeon]

What mod would I be looking at?

[balmy moat]

full auto is one, iirc

skittarius might be another

i dont use either so i dont know how they work or how well they work

[vocal nacelle]

you can install a lot of QoL mods

[steep silo]

FullAuto and KeepSwinging

[rotund ermine]

need to double check something

Do the Curious Ability Cooldown work with some Talen Trees?

[opal nebula]

is this xp?

[pastel forge]

Pretty sure it is

[balmy moat]

yes

[simple wigeon]

I don't understand the attacks of the twins, one has a pistol, but the other has a sword and some attacks don't seem blockable

Do I just dash away when she turns yellow and slashes around her?

[opal nebula]

is queueing auric maelstroms best for xp? better than quickplay?

[steep silo]

Depends on the maelstrom, some give about 10k xp which is basically an auric HISTG mission without quickplay bonus

But others give way more, some up to 23k xp

Modifiers with pox gas give the most xp followed by monstrous specials (the ones with "I-II" in them)

[smoky ember]

yes

@clear plume knows better than i though

for fighting twins

[clear plume]

actually its the same hitbox of a Cspawn grab

funny enough

[smoky ember]

lmfao

so dodge left?

[clear plume]

or back if you have enough dodge distance or inwards

yeah

[smoky ember]

neat,,

[clear plume]

ONLY if she is targeting you

if she isnt its a full aoe hit

[smoky ember]

i’ll keep that in mind for the next time within 3 months i play darktide for ONE h40

[smoky ember]

isn’t this backwards

the tentacle should be to the left

and you dodge into the tentacle

[clear plume]

the Cspawn left

yeah

our right

its left

[smoky ember]

like if ur facing cspawn

[clear plume]

facing Cspawn, go right

the tentacle is right

[smoky ember]

am i tripping

[clear plume]

yes

[smoky ember]

https://tenor.com/view/frone-explode-darktide-warhammer-40k-gif-14765255941347445649

i am

my bad

memory failed me

[smoky ember]

when zealot hits u with that dollar store thunder hammer

so u gotta hit her with that mutant stare

[clear plume]

whatever

go my Cspawn army

[smoky ember]

quadruple chaos spawn death barrage

[clear plume]

exactly

[simple wigeon]

My weapon says it doesn't have any blessing but how do I put one on it now?

Ah it has to be blue

[balmy moat]

ye, hadron

this place

[tame anchor]

damn, my friend group and i got to clearance 32

havoc difficulty feels so inconsistent cause ive had a clearance 30 that just dumped bosses in the first 5 minutes

[vocal nacelle]

Unlucky

[radiant ivy]

My friend is getting a Error code 2002 is there way to fix this for him, any help would be appreciated.

[rotund ermine]

what does the error say?

[radiant ivy]

Error Code: 2002 Connectivity problem He restarted his router, verify the files, uninstalled/reinstalled the game and deleted the cache and still having issues.

[rotund ermine]

let me double check online, IIRC sometimes it can be your wifi or other times darktide servers sometimes explodes without warning
💀

[radiant ivy]

Much appreciated

[pulsar pilot]

Does anyone know what exactly what the "audio mix presets" are? For example, what does Dynamic High, Dynamic Low etc mean?

[tame anchor]

man, inferno is hard as a havoc modifier

lost two in a row on smelter clearance 33

then beat baross 33/34 easy without it

reached H35

[rotund ermine]

Ah sorry for the late reply, I checked on the forums its Connection issues either from the server or Your friends internet. If your friend’s internet is fine then main issue is server side

[radiant ivy]

We did everything, it’s just the server at this point, we even ported and ran it as administrator. Nothing. Hope they can fix it for my bud, he really enjoys purging heretics. Thank you again for the updated again.

[vocal nacelle]

use dns or flush current one

or use vpn

[rotund ermine]

🫡
NP

[rotund ermine]

Legit I hate it when the Server explodes While I'm penance farming

[simple wigeon]

I don't know if it's a good mechanic but I sometimes dodge and then slide out of it. So I tried to bind both dodge and crouch to space and for some reason I'm not longer able to slide out of a dodge

[vocal nacelle]

dodge have limit, if you keep spamming it you get less distance

normal dodge only consume 1 dodge
dodge + crouch = dodge slide (consume 2 dodge)

[simple wigeon]

Yeah but if both are bound to space it never turns into a dodge slide for some reason

I just crouch

Works fine if they are on different binds

[pulsar pilot]

If you're on PC, Better Movement on nexus mods is convenient

[shadow skiff]

It's the range of sound loudness. Dynamic highs makes it harder to hear softer sounds but louder ones are more 'realistically' loud. Dynamic low is the equiv to sneak steps being as loud as a frag bomb.

They are close on the range to make it easier to hear certain things.

Default is inbetween both. Nightmode is dynamic low but quieter.

[clear cove]

@crude barn Hey man, you helped me out with some havoc 25s a little while back; I was wondering about your voidblast support staff, how'd that work out for you again?

Electro's been doing good work, moreso on the rotten armor missions but inferno just aint kickin up what it needs to; never really gave the voidblast any credit

[versed escarp]

voidstrike is the shit bro, trust

[clear cove]

Bowling ball on Havoc does NOT work for me

Most of the time, if I'm playing Psyker, I'm doing CC and Voidstrike might as well be giving enemies a wet willy

[versed escarp]

what if you throw 2 bowling balls?

[clear cove]

What if I blow you up with my mind

[balmy moat]

the cleave on voidstrike even with surge isnt great, it definitely locks you into specialist/elite hunter rather than hordeclear like it does in auric and below

[pulsar pilot]

Thanks!

[versed escarp]

if you pair voidstrike with scrier

it allows your crit chance to be really high so you can fire out 2 balls at all times which allows you to clear horde effectively

[clear cove]

Perilous Combustion to replace Creeping Flames, I reckon?

[versed escarp]

but at the same time, like you said, it is very good at killing specials as well, voidstrike just take a little finesse to use since i agree with you that it's not the best to clear horde but it's good once you get used to it

[clear cove]

Soulblaze is always a given actually, if you're not running soulblaze, IDK what you're doing

[clear cove]

You're probably on to something - I give too many weapons or builds flak based on how I see random H40s moving

Ahem, lasgun psykers who don't know how to let go of M1...

[balmy moat]

4 poxwalkers per ball is not something i would call horde clear, but it could always be worse, like chain axe

[clear cove]

Scrier's Gaze isn't even that bad once I tried using it myself for penances

Only real upside to shriek is more soulblaze and stagger

[balmy moat]

scriers is really really strong

but yeah if your goal is fire, shriek is better

[versed escarp]

it'd be the whole horde if they line up since it'd be 2 balls hitting crit, of course you gotta aim for head shots and crit chance take some time to build up

[radiant roost]

Just got to Havoc 30+ for the first time. Any videos or tips on how to not get blown away by gunners? My team basically all were downed by gunners in like 5-10 seconds on an open bridge, shooting from the rafters as well.

[brazen prism]

play smokes

[balmy moat]

look for cover, main thing. if you need to pull back to get cover, do so. if you break line of sight, the gunners will come to you, which depending on environment can make them come into melee distance

[radiant roost]

Does coordinating with teammates become essential or can you still get away with no voice? I sort of see people repositioning and falling back based on feel and just copy them at the moment as I sort of get used to the rhythm

Was sort of surprised we could get past 30 without voice coordination but immediately dumpstered at 31 it seemed

[clear cove]

Not really - for me, Havoc 30-40 has been a lot of gut feeling

Having VC co-ordination is helpful, sure, but once you understand your role on the team and get better with positioning, it all just kind of clicks

That being said, I do find with random queuing, I have to put a lot of trust into the team to know when to fall back or push ahead, you still end up babysitting from time to time

[radiant roost]

Maybe I should start practicing using smoke but teammates would need to coordinate

[balmy moat]

smokes also hide nametags, so coordination is needed

yeah

[crude barn]

dm'd the build to you. Have fun~

[eager flame]

You won't need teammates to coordinate smoke placement if you throw them based on the map geometry and enemy position. Placing smokes at chokepoints or adjacent to naturally placed walls gives the team somewhere to gather and duck into cover should your smoke run out before you have placed another with enemies still around. Your team can do what they want so long as they can keep themselves alive and you will provide additional means of staying safe which they can utilize or not. Smokes are best saved for gunners including tossing one at or between you and the twin who shoots and drops mines (which he won't do with smoke blocking his vision). In the event of Rotten Armor you may be better off with Kraks but this will leave you with fewer places to hide from stray gunfire which may be more prevalent if the team isn't seeking out ranged enemies you can't ping. Be careful when throwing smokes in dark areas of the map as some people's gamma settings will make it very hard to see with both the smoke and darkness.

[radiant roost]

I have a feeling I'll throw smoke and no one will utilize it unless we are coordinating a bit. I think I understand the utility although not how all enemy types respond to the smoke.

[eager flame]

Think of it as invisibility from things that shoot if the smoke is between you and them. It will also prevent things that want to trap you if you are inside it. It is a free wall to avoid getting shot more often than not.

[radiant roost]

Sort of a poor man's shield?

[eager flame]

Maybe more like a bubble shield with fewer perks but way more potential uptime.

[valid vigil]

Anyone tryna play? Leveling up my Zealot and mic is required I’m on Ps5

[tame anchor]

is the +100% duration worth it for smokes?

[sweet swallow]

how do rewards work if you lose a mission?

[vocal nacelle]

you get 10-30% of the total resource you collected? i dont remember the exact amount but its very small

[shadow skiff]

People usually say no. You won't really need that unless you can't move at all.

[forest canopy]

Does havoc assignment rank ever decay naturally? Like if I don't rank up in a week will I go down or retain my ranking?

[eager flame]

With all the grenade buffs I almost never find myself without a smoke to throw so you could probably save yourself a point or two. While often more time than you need, 100% duration is very good at providing sustained cover in the event that the group needs to prioritize melee before picking off the ranged in H30+ at least. I also like duration for twins in Havoc because it can shutdown the ranged twin for the entire fight in 1-2 smokes leaving you free to focus the melee twin. With duration I feel like I'm halfway to my next 60 sec smoke nade cooldown before it clears but haven't timed it. You can almost always fall back to use the map for cover or find that Ogryn who rushes gunners down to keep them from firing on your position. Lone gunners flanking your position seems to be more of a threat this season of Havoc and I have seen patrols of gunmen from behind that will advance through a lot of the map to flank you recently.

[eager flame]

If you are playing a match of Havoc it will retain your Havoc rank until the season reset (every ~3 months) drops you to the nearest 10th rank below where you were. You don't need to win the match just play so if you are Havoc 20 just join a Havoc 3 and it will hold your rank. Otherwise, if you skip Havoc for one week it should demote you 1 rank. The safest way to play is to give yourself 2 attempts per week at your current Havoc level or above to try to rank up. If they fail you can just wait until the weekly reset to try again with renewed attempts and no demotion.

[shadow skiff]

If you don't play for a week, it'll go down by 1 rank. Win/lose, doesn't matter. Just need to play a havoc game.

This is excluding seasonal resets which happens every 3~ months.

Earning assignment rank 40 means you do not lose rank from losses anymore, but heard you can still decay from idling.

[forest canopy]

Alright thanks

Also I cannot derank by failing a mission at a lower level than mine right? I'm havoc ranking 21 rn so if I fail a 20 by trying to help someone I retain my 3 attempts?

[strange thunder]

yes

[eager flame]

Correct.

[forest canopy]

Ty!

[thick surge]

I swear, too many Auric Maelstorm players only got good at somewhat speedrunning. Because the amount of times I've had an amazing run and then they act like absolute morons the moment an objective is infront of them is astounding.

"What... what you mean I have to go to a place and do a thing? But I am killing the enemies? Demon? Supplies? Servo skull? WTF!?"

[safe lichen]

When your havoc plummets downhill when your boss thumping zealot server DC's -- just as a captain & a boss comes in, & then a triggered daemonhost from a mutant throw.

[lethal sierra]

I've been away for the game for some time. I know a lot of balancing happen and I just want to ask if I am starting over what class would be the most newbie friendly to play with? and what build can I go with it?

[shadow skiff]

Simple is usually arby, but may teach bad habits. Zealot still easiest to just pick up and go, though may feel meh.

[lethal sierra]

arby is the one with the dog right?

[shadow skiff]

Yeah.

Basically brain dead on lower diffs. Some joke about dog soloing uprising even.

[cursive ore]

Coming from Vermintide 2 and having a hard time getting locked into a class. I primarily favored Ranger Veteran Bardin using Cog hammer and Masterwork Pistol, using his special to get under monsters and blast with the pistol, or use it to res teammates. Is there a class / weapons you might recommend?

[vocal nacelle]

try everything

with that playstyle, ogryn pickaxe PBB

[balmy moat]

also keep in mind, this game is more about dodging than blocking

[shadow skiff]

Rebind dodge from jump first thing.

[cursive ore]

Got it! Thanks!

[radiant roost]

How should Slogryn deal with Ragers in melee?

[strange thunder]

huh

just wack them? ogryn has some of the best stagger available

[keen flume]

Chain between melee hits and pushes

[eager flame]

Closest to Ranger Vet Bardin is a short Veteran with inviso ult. Similar weapons might be force sword and revolver variant of your choice but you may want to experiment.

[zealous dome]

What's a slogryn?

Slab Ogryn?

Just heby

No thoughts heby

[radiant roost]

They just feel slow. Pushing doesn't break their attack animation though does it?

[eager flame]

It is difficult to break a rager during their attack string. You can take the +250% stagger on push to at least knock them on the floor between their combos. Often it is helpful to rely on the extended reach of the Ogryn to try to hit them at a range that the rager is unable to hit you back. It can be difficult to maintain this distance particularly the larger the rager horde is. I believe the shout ult will stagger ragers mid-combo and the dash ult definitely will. With gunner ult you just blow them away while backdashing.

[bitter violet]

I am annoyed at the fact that for the run 50 missions in Interzone void penance I can only do clandestum Gloriana. -_-

[eager flame]

You can always break up the monotony by trading 100K salvage in expeditions. Or work on getting 2500 explosive barrel kills when you run Gloriana as there are a lot of explosives in that map.

[tame anchor]

fixed bombers is so much harder hahah

[shadow skiff]

Bombs from bs areas time.

[tame anchor]

cleared H35. Omg. had captain+twins fight

smoke and slab kinda cheesed it though

[eager flame]

Had twins + captain + monstrosity + horde + gunners in the narrow prison block with the martyr skull before. Good times o7

[tame anchor]

whats the skull thing about

[lime idol]

Ogryn push can iirc

It’s coded as a different push profile from normal human pushes

[eager ermine]

Newbie question: When using Quickplay and difficulty level to Heresy. Can it throw you into damnation game too?

[steep silo]

No it only quickplays you into your selected difficulty

[eager ermine]

thanks, i thought so. I recently installed scoreui mod to track my performance (or lack of it) and noticed that it shows difficulty as “Damnation”

[steep silo]

never heard of that mod but it probably has to do with the change they did to difficulties (they removed sedition, which was old lowest difficulty, and made uprising the new lowest while making Auric a new difficulty)

[thick surge]

So do some weapons just never crit or is there always a base chance?

[cold moon]

Base crit chance is 5% for all weapons iirc

Few weapons have higher base crit chance like the combat knife

[thick surge]

That's what I thought, my luck is just SHIT.

[clear plume]

Some are 0%

But since classes have base crit chance its never actually 0%

Lowest would be ogryn with class crit of 2.5%

And some weapons have higher crit

Las pistol and knife have 15% iirc

Shivs have 12.5 or 15, I forgor

[smoky ember]

i think a couple ogryn weapons also have negative crit chance?

[zealous dome]

Twinks with the -2%

[clear plume]

Did not know

[safe lichen]

Is it just me or the North American servers are crap tonight?

Every single map I've joined, 5 in a row, is rubberbanding lag.

[cold moon]

State of the servers after the expeditions update came out in March

[safe lichen]

Today is terrible -- this morning, just fine. Now? Fucking rubberbanding

[cold moon]

Weapon switching requires multiple button presses for the game to register. My ability can have the same problem while other times I only need to press once, but the ability does not activate until 3 seconds have passed.

[shadow skiff]

There's a mod for it but some ppl say, issue so bad, it's not working well.

[tame anchor]

'fixed' bombers make life so miserable

[shadow skiff]

Basically, Enjoy 'nades from BS spots you can't even see or shoot.

Best 'counter' is to 'nade them back, but those are either limited or on a delay.

[bitter violet]

They been taking lessons from Brady in his prime. Throwing absolute dimes.

[quartz grove]

Hey so I’m brand new to this game and want to have access to all the dope weapons and future builds, is there a fast way to level up from the start?

[eager flame]

Win on the highest difficulty you have unlocked using Quickplay and modify any curios you unlock and slot with the +EXP perk. By the time you get to +50% EXP from all those sources you will be gaining a level per mission clear at least all the way to 30. Damnation difficulty gives similar XP to Auric so you may want to power level there since Auric is designed with leveled characters in mind. Bear in mind you have to level weapons as well to unlock blessings for them and fully empower each so get the one you want to use as early as you can even if you don't like the stats to pump XP into that weapon type. You will be starving for dockets, plasteel and diamantine for a while so hunt what you can in the maps. Additional characters may be easier to level since you can use resources to power level weapon XP once you have a surplus. Do the event as well as they have large resource rewards dispensed across 10 wins in the event missions. There is typically an event each month. Current event Nurgle's Might starts showing up on Heresy difficulty and above.

[safe lichen]

I forget, do the current event give more EXP than maelstrom?

[shadow skiff]

You can check at the mission terminal.

[safe lichen]

Oh right, the stats.

[safe lichen]

Click item in shop. Click to buy.

Crash entire game.

Well. That's a first.

[static wyvern]

guys I am a bit confused, is havoc forged a easy achievement to get?

am doing a clearance 23 there this inferno staff psyker that doesnt do inferno staff pysker things that died about 9 times already not to mention getting trapped about 5 times and he is havoc 40 and has that title, I am very confused

the low clearance guys are doing so much better than him, he keeps going the wrong direction or moving solo

[strange thunder]

you can get carried there

but also havoc rank is global

they could've gotten H40 on any class

and are just a bad psyker

[static wyvern]

fair enough maybe they are practicing

i will try not to be too judgemental, its just this one really stood out as insanity to me

[strange thunder]

skill usually translates tho, like it's hard to be able to both clear H40 and die that badly in H23

[wide swallow]

aight, i havent played Darktide in, like, a good half a year.
Is this still a good knife setup for Zealot?

Was gonna replace precog with Uncanny but not sure

[keen flume]

Dump stat needs to be mobility but the rest of the knife is good

[static wyvern]

he blew up behind me as a psyker now...

got him in another pf

i should have known things wouldnt end well

he knocked me into a nurgle vomit

at least i think he did, idk what else would have moved me

[zealous dome]

It's usually any combination of uncanny Riposte and precognition on zealot

Uncanny Strike is pretty strong though so it's usually

Uncanny Strike+ Riposte/Precognition

[eager flame]

Most people who "just beat H40 once" did it as a zealot with survival perks and played around the team. Just because you brought your A-game to get a penance does not mean you will do so for others every time you play. Psyker is squishy and can trip people up if it is their first game back after some time. True level helps you at least see if they have some experience with the class but you have no idea how many of the levels they gained happened at launch/years ago.

[balmy moat]

players cant move other players unless its with like, a barrel

[static wyvern]

from what i seen online the psyker explosion does move you if only a little bit (i didnt pay much attention though just quick google search and reading not a lot)

idk if there was a barrel behind me that he would have hit all i know is he blew up and i got moved lol

[balmy moat]

i mean this would be valuiable info to have, if you wanna test it with me in a private game

definitely would not ever use it nefariously

[static wyvern]

I mean sure lets do it

[balmy moat]

what region are you in?

i know a few middleground points for some servers but not all of them

[static wyvern]

i mean its just a test right we could just go on uprising and see if it works

but i am on south america i am fine with na east tho

[balmy moat]

ye that be fine

if it was like, australia it might be more rough

[static wyvern]

for posterity and anyone interested, the psyker explosion did not knock me back even a centimeter, guess what i read online is fake lol
but it does trigger barrel explosions so might have been that

[static wyvern]

i should really install that true level mod for sure

to avoid situations like these lol

[clear plume]

True level doesn't do anything

Level does not skill or experience

[cold moon]

Yeah I have 1238 hours in total and 898 levels across all my characters, but I can't do havoc past rank 20

[balmy moat]

true lvl just helps you determine how much you should judge someone when they make newbie mistakes tbh

lvl 32 psyker vs lvl793 psyker type deal

[safe lichen]

There an option in-game to reduce leftover corpses (or ideally, the entire death animation)? Preferably 0.

[cold moon]

Ragdoll in video setting (?)

[safe lichen]

Still has death animation.

[static wyvern]

Yea but lvl 30 havoc forged vs lvl 300 havoc forged certainly helps to differentiate right o.o

the thing is just to be more discerning, at least while I am still climbing, I dont mind failing havoc runs as I am sure I still am far far from being a havoc 40 player, but also helps knowing how much weight i might have to pull while I am still at 28

[tame anchor]

i can hang in 30s with ogryn, but only 20s on other classes

but ya, you can get carried hard with some havoc cheeses

pretty much cheat the win

man, i just had a dark communion game where we got bursted in elevator and again at final door when it opened

[shadow skiff]

To 1 in the files, yes. 0 just crashes the game when something dies.

[tame anchor]

the animations are cool, the all the bodies everywhere becomes a mess

can you just have the bodies disappear faster?

[wise drum]

If you're an idiot, sure

People have variation in their gameplay at all levels of experience

[pulsar pilot]

this is why I dont play my 1st psyker much anymore. Some days I play well, other days I play like shit and feel embarrased.

[shadow skiff]

If set to one, only 1 ragdoll can exist, everything else just vanishes instantly.

Setting to 0 crashes so IDK how Fatshark codes their clean up.

[safe lichen]

Files? As in, folder files?

[shadow skiff]

As in, settings files. Think .ini and such.

[shut sail]

Hey all, questions~
I'm using the Dueling sword with Carapace/Maniac I mostly hang around in damnation atm but I'm wondering if I could be getting better coverage. Would Elite be better than maniac?

[gleaming lantern]

flak imo

[shadow skiff]

Cara, flak, maniac and unyielding can work, depends on what you melee.

[mint cave]

any word on them fixing bots?

[coral relic]

Any chart for zealot melee weapon attack pattern liek the ogrynomicon has?

[clear plume]

yes

1 min

This one

use the side bar to navigate to the weapon you want to see

[tidal light]

Get fucked loyalist

But yeah its hilarious when that bs happens

[static wyvern]

A friend here pulls the mobs that he can from up there downwards by shooting them before riding the elevator, certainly makes the fight up there a lot more manageable

takes a bit of patience tho when I play with randoms people dont wanna wait

[eager flame]

That elevator in Dark Communion can be made easier but the poxbursters can actually jump you DURING THE CUTSCENE in the end event on that map. Best you can do is Chorus ult as zealot right before the door opens to try to soak the damage but it is rare and there is a med station right before the event.

[tame anchor]

man, i was surprised that the difficulty still ramped up as much as it did from H35 to H40

just the endless crap

[tame anchor]

beat h36, omg - the bridge on torrent..

So many of these levels have these odd areas where everyone tends to wipe

[clear plume]

It's often because of 2 things

Overlapping triggers and bad kiting/los

For example, vigil station after elevator is just a straight line with a lot of tickets and ambiance with like 3 boss triggers

[mint cave]

for weekly ranged kills, do grenades count?

[radiant roost]

What is the attack pattern to kill Crushers with the Shock Maul and Suppression Shield mk VI?

[mint cave]

so bots just dont res anymore

like at all

thats fun

[safe lichen]

Well this is a first in all my hours played --

Horde suddenly spawrning in front of your screen. Literally appearing out of empty space's thin air.

[shadow skiff]

They help with downed bots for sure. Watch them ignore a downed player even when everything was on me though. Like a, I don't need you two idiots helping me. Go pick up the other player while I kite the karkers.

[shadow skiff]

This just happens nowadays. Got stuck in a horde spawned in the air above me and around me before. Stealth was the only reason I didn't get bs'd.

[eager flame]

Yes*. Throwing knives, etc. Subject to change with a future patch perhaps but they have been counting. However, if something dies to bleed/DOT I believe it does not count for ranged/melee weeklies/penances. So shredder/chem nades may be an exception. Although flamer staff kills do count for ranged weekly.

[forest canopy]

How much is the hp reduction on weakened monstrosities?

Specifically heresy

[eager flame]

Maybe 25-33% of normal HP give or take? They go down much faster.

[forest canopy]

Do taunts work on monstrosities?

[eager flame]

Some ults do. Most (if not all) taunts do currently.

[forest canopy]

so ogryn works?

[eager flame]

Yeah his did at launch. I haven't heard anything about that changing with his skill tree reworks.

[clear plume]

"• Monstrosities and aggroed Daemonhost ignore taunt; Captains/Twins can be taunted"

from Kuli's guide

[forest canopy]

Ah dang it

[clear plume]

its easy to taunt them with DoTs

because how agro works they often target the dot owner

for example bleed from batter on ogryn often makes it seem like taunt works on bosses

but its the bleed dot that is making agro for ogryn

[forest canopy]

Ah trying to minimize external damage on them

Since stupid malleus monstronum needs me to do 50%+

[eager flame]

Need a hand? It is easy enough with a 2nd player to keep enemies off you in Private game. Shout zealot can keep one busy for a while. Weakened monstrosities on Heresy Maelstrom is ideal I think but may not be around.

[forest canopy]

I'm off rn unfortunately since I gotta eat, I took a crack at it earlier with my friend in a mortis but we got twins at the end...

[eager flame]

np

[forest canopy]

I'll probably get it in time with a weakened maelstrom unfortunately there haven't been any in the past hour

[eager flame]

you can always do a campaign mission with a guaranteed monster at the end like the trainyard end event

Consignment Yard

[forest canopy]

Oh yeah I could do that

Friend hopped of tho already so that's whatever

I still need to get cliffhanger anyways...

[eager flame]

Play a map with bottomless pits in the beginning like Ascension Riser with a couple stamina curios and a force sword. Wait for a horde (may take 5-10 minutes after pushing into the map a bit then fall back to the pits at the start). Then use the push attack on force sword to get the kills after the horde piles up since the knockback on venting shriek sucks these days. Some block cost reduction may help as you wait for them to gather. Flame staff LMB may also be a decent option for stagger provided it isn't killing enemies before they drop.

[forest canopy]

Does ascension riser have a spot at the beginning?

I was running logistratum

[eager flame]

Yeah as soon as you come out to the first enemies it is those skinny bridge sections.

Before the big door.

[forest canopy]

alright ill try ascension riser

since that is a story mission

[tame anchor]

what does stun immunity mean, what stuns you>?

[eager flame]

When you get hit by a melee attack you will be unable to complete an attack in progress, drop a barrel you were carrying, etc. Gunners can stunlock you from repeat/multi shots making it hard to move/dodge. Stun immunity prevents this inability to take/complete actions. For example, the zealot talent tree stun immunity will let him keep carrying a barrel after taking a hit and increase speed to reach the destination sooner. Ogryns have innate stun immunity but this doesn't prevent getting downed or taking damage. An ogryn can charge a heavy attack, get hit and then complete the heavy attack because of this stun immunity.

There may be stagger states that exceed this stun immunity or circumnavigate it, however. Not positive. For example, melee stun immunity will not protect you from a horde of gunners and reapers shooting you.

[tame anchor]

how come i still drop power cells like on baross

[eager flame]

Playing as what class? Is stun immunity equipped? If so, are you getting shot and dropping barrel due to this damage type? Bullets will make you drop it once you are out of toughness and the melee hits will still drop your toughness. Again, there may be other factors that exceed stun immunity (crusher/mauler overheads, getting disabled, etc). Generally, stun immunity is not a cure all to let you ignore damage, particularly repeat hits. There may also be variables such as changes brought on by a patch/hotfix unintended or otherwise.

[forest canopy]

Does the presence of pox gas modifier increase the spawn rate of med stimms?

[eager flame]

Yes. Although in Havoc it does not.

[forest canopy]

Ok that makes sense

6 med stimms in 1 room felt really crazy

[tame anchor]

like the blight on the ground will cause you to drop cells on baross

[eager flame]

Yeah I think that falls under things that circumnavigate the stun immunity. Either it is an oddball damage type or just doesn't count as a "hit" per say.

[tame anchor]

whats a good way to get 100 scavenge zones? I want that little insignia

[shadow skiff]

Just explore.

Or learn to solo so you can do them yourself away from team.

[tame anchor]

trying to solo on easiest difficulty, bots keep getting zapped by zeus haha

[shadow skiff]

That one is the worst map for it imo.

[tame anchor]

somehow i quickplayed into it

[shadow skiff]

Makes hacking a pain since the lightning can strike through stone.

[lost smelt]

Which one is more flex?

[gusty whale]

2nd one because ASS was cheesed by probably 90%+ of people that use it

budding interrogator is just a sign of many missions under your belt

[graceful raptor]

none

[keen flume]

None

[exotic canyon]

Okay, the expedition penances are too grindy to do in normal games. I'm gonna need some help on the subject of mods. Where do I start?

[vocal nacelle]

play on the lowest diff get marker mods and radar

[exotic canyon]

could you perhaps DM me which mods I specifically need?

[mint cave]

Devs, please. Fix the fucking bots. the only thing they had going for them was a suicidal tendency to sacrifice themselves to get you up

That was there only merit

just remove them at this point

i wish we had the vermintide 2 bot system so badly. it was so much better

[shadow skiff]

They prioritise picking each other up over players now.

[mint cave]

mostly it seems like they prioritize sitting on med kits and doing nothing

we had one not swing afor a whole match

if you get trapped, bots will literally stand around doing nothing rather than pick you up

if they cant be trusted to fix it, they need to killswitch trapper til they do

given the absolutely abysmal state of trapper code and behavior to begin with, they probably should have been removed a lon time ago

[shadow skiff]

Naw, they just made it do you can get triple trappers in malice.

[iron canyon]

they still allow trappers to spawn inside each other btw, had a quad clowncar a couple days ago.

[gusty whale]

maybe game too complex to give player builds to bots

[mint cave]

not any more complex than vermintide 2

[pastel forge]

i mean

30 points for talents is a lot more compared to vt2

[gusty whale]

plus i think it is easier for a bot to respond to melee than to gunners

[forest canopy]

Where is the first horde spawn point in ascension riser?

[finite charm]

Anybody got a CLUE on the abhor the mutant trophy penance? I cant get it right. Im playing zealot. Tried The axe. Now The heaven eviscerstor. Anybody now what weapon to use or it dont matter

[steep silo]

You can pull it off with any weapon really, just need to time your ability a little

the mutant needs to be charging as well

dueling sword might be easiest with just a heavy poke, but other weapons work too

[finite charm]

Ok i will try

[finite charm]

Do i need to Charger The heavy attack or just press it

[safe lichen]

Besides the Veteran Plasma Gun --

What other weapons in Darktide has unique non-60 dump stat/s?

[clear plume]

ripper gun and debatably psyker weapons with warp res

[safe lichen]

What? More than one Psyker weapon have non-60 stats?

That'll be a hassle to pull.

What are the numbers?

[clear plume]

force swords can dump warp res as low as possible

some staffs (like purg) can do the same

debepends on skilllevel and build sometimes

[steep silo]

You can hold a heavy attack, press ability and then release when you get to the mutant

[eager flame]

If you hold the heavy attack as the mutant is charging at you and then ult while aiming at the mutant it will give you a longer than normal dash that is locked on to the mutant. This is how dash worked on release. Don't think it has changed. Release the heavy attack as you reach the mutants face. Damage vs Maniacs can help but is not necessary.

[safe lichen]

Wait, so Psyker weapons have dump stats even lower than 60?

[clear plume]

yeah

warp res is only peril gen, and some moments you want more peril fast

[safe lichen]

What's the minimum?

[clear plume]

ie. force sword special

0%

but thats almost imposible while keeping other stats at 80%

I have a 33% warp res force sword with 80% rest

[safe lichen]

Huh. So Psykers can roll & 500-max weapons of, 0% dump stat.

That's interesting.

[safe lichen]

How often does this roll in the shop, both normal & Melk?

Or is it more likely, to roll buying armoury til getting it?

[clear plume]

I had the best luck with spamming brunts

[eager flame]

At 500 rating any weapon should be 80%x 4 with a 60% stat or some combination therein. The way I made a low warp res weapon was stopped at 430 rating or so. The end result was 80% x 3,, 60% in defenses and 30% or so warp res on a force greatsword. You may be able to get better RNG for the spread but I don't think you will ever find a 0% stat on a 500 rating weapon.

[safe lichen]

Ah, that explains.

[forest canopy]

Heinous Rituals modifier does what? Just more daemonhosts spawns?

[tame anchor]

ast night the last guy on a havoc team crashes but is on discord. Hes frantically rebooting.
Me: "Omg, the bot rezzed us! Its not over!"
Him: "REALLY!?"
Me: "No, we're all dead. Take your time."

[shadow skiff]

Dh rituals, gotta interrupt or get rekt.

[crimson glacier]

Hey, I’m sure this is a constant question but how do I fix my talent points not saving? It’s been weird but I’ve looked online and I’m not facing anything that triggers it

-I play on console so I don’t have mods
-All my curios are different
-I don’t have a loadout (and creating one doesn’t fix it either)

I’ve tried restarting my game and I seem to still have the issue so any help would be appreciated

[vocal nacelle]

Dont change tab when you finish the build

[crimson glacier]

In what sense? Like don’t change and close the menu directly?

[vocal nacelle]

talent -> inventory -> talent , will bug the tree

just close it

and open it again

[crimson glacier]

Alrighty

Didn’t work

I think I’m doomed

I can’t finish my drug junkie build

I was thinking of completely deleting my character but I want to do that as a last resort

Because I have time on this character that I’d prefer not to lose

Sorry didn’t mean to keep spouting out

It’s weird because people been talking about how the game reset the points they put in

But weirdly it took out a point I already invested in like months ago

It was my most recent point to be fair

[eager flame]

There is a bug currently that does not select your current loadout when you open your inventory. If the loadout you have in the upper right is not highlighted orange then you need to click on the loadout before you make any changes otherwise the game does not recognize any changes you make as being a part of that loadout. I believe this bug can occur even with only one loadout so check the upper right for your build to be highlighted orange or else click it to turn it orange. This is a known bug and devs on the Fatshark forum told me there is a fix in the works. Hopefully we will see it implemented before the end of the year. This issue may not affect all of your builds but it will consistently not highlight the same loadouts over and over. I'm not sure what the nature of the glitch is but hopefully the workaround of clicking the loadout before making changes helps you for now.

[vocal nacelle]

End of the year

[eager flame]

IYKYK

[vocal nacelle]

i cant argue with that because rumbler bug took 1 year to get fix 🎉

[safe lichen]

Where does it display your Havoc Clearance level number?

At the Havoc terminal, I see the current hosting assignment number?

[eager flame]

I use True Level mod to see the highest currently cleared Havoc mission for the season to the right of my name. Outside of showing you the current Havoc mission (which is your rank at the moment for the season) at the terminal I am not sure Darktide displays that information to the player or other people. The penance related rewards are the only in-game acknowledgement of how far you have gotten overall.

[shadow skiff]

In mourningstar, next to name.

[crimson glacier]

I didn’t have a loadout nor multiple so I know it’s not selecting other loadouts but I did try making a loadout to see if it’d help which to no suprise seems to not work either, neither does having 2 for it to select from

Sorry if I didn’t do what you said, I’m tired right now and mostly annoyed that nothing has been working

So I’m a bit slow

[eager flame]

The problem is that with this bug it does not select ANY loadout so until a loadout is manually selected no changes will be updated to the loadout. If you have only one build it is just a single icon in the upper right of your inventory. It should be highlighted orange to denote the active build.

In this photo one of the loadouts in the upper right should be orange but none are. That is the bug. If you have no loadouts there should just be a single icon like the ones in the upper right. You may have to hit the plus button to view it if nothing is there.

[crimson glacier]

Alright I see what you’re saying

My loadout is orange but it doesn’t save my perks even though they shown to be spent on that perk

Spending my points before or after making a loadout doesn’t change the outcome either

Just a side note

I’m thinking of restarting my game with the loadout on this time?

Just as a fingers crossed for better results

[eager flame]

You could try reseting the talent points. I think you press E to clear all of them. Is it possible you have a gap in tree distribution that needs to be filled? You can right click to remove any point now for things like swapping auras or blitzs.

[crimson glacier]

I can try give me a second

Thanks for all the help by the way

Sorry if this is frustrating

[eager flame]

NP. Darktide is a glitchy type of experience when it decides to not do what it is supposed to or you think it would make sense to do. Sometimes it is a new bug sometimes it is just being counterintuitive.

[crimson glacier]

Sorry it took awhile, relocating all my skill points and yada yada

It worked

Thanks for your help man

I wish I did this sooner instead of wasting your time lol

But seriously thanks

[eager flame]

o7 No worries. Glad you got it functioning again.

[crimson glacier]

Glad you were here to help

[eager flame]

All good. Just keep it in mind for next time. By then I'm sure the game will find a new way to not listen to what you are trying to get it to do 😛

[crimson glacier]

That sounds like darktide, but I’ll hopefully push it to the back of my head so I can have fun with my friend

Fun game all bugs aside

[eager flame]

Enjoy your runs o/ May the emperor protect you from glitches, bugs, etc in the meantime!

[crimson glacier]

Emprah and got me back like the cartel

[finite charm]

I got it thanx fellas. Used The dueling sword 🫡💪👊🙏

[finite charm]

Any tips on the shocking stuff penance? Trials campaign etc?

[eager flame]

The main thing you need is a horde preferably on heresy to balance density and HP. I suggest a flamer to get the majority of your kills after throwing a nade. You may need 2 shock grenades to shock enough for the penance. One spot that works is the twins campaign mission. When you encounter both twins at once (right before the elevator to the final encounter) a horde will spawn behind you. If you funnel them into the narrow hallway on your right as you enter that area, throw a grenade, swap to flamer and start burning. You may need a 2nd grenade to stun the rest of the horde as they funnel in. This strat can benefit from a teammate to keep the melee twin off you. If you are solo you can choose any map with a chokepoint and wait for a horde. It helps to not have bots with you so they don't steal kills but bots will kill less than randos who don't know what you are trying to do. The stealth ult should give you some breathing room after the horde is bunched up to throw the nade, switch to flamer and start firing.

Spec as you see fit since things die on heresy but damage vs unarmored and a crit build with everlasting flames blessing can ensure you don't run out of ammo before they are dead.

[finite charm]

Okaj thanx but do i have to stund Them or can a friend stund them aswell

[eager flame]

Unless an update has changed something which I don't think is the case, the penance will unlock so long as you kill any enemies hit with any stun grenade from a zealot so teammates can keep throwing them to stun more that rush in after the first is thrown to assist you.

[finite charm]

Okaj thanx bruv. Will try

[mint cave]

what is happening with servers rn

i just had to put 4 charged assails into the head of a dreg shooter on freaking damnation

with empowered!

[static wyvern]

can someone explain to me if stopping power is only affecting stagger, saw online both that it is affecting damage against armor and that it does stagger but not both at once, so I am very confused at the moment

[vocal nacelle]

inspect the weapon

[clear plume]

It could be many things. Charged? Like right click? That doesn't change damage iirc, and it varies if it crits or hits weakspot plus alot of damage increases from talents procing or not

[mint cave]

for sure, i jsut mean it was def hitting the target

and we're talkling basic gun goons

[oblique silo]

I do not enjoy havoc at all. I got to 21, but it just isn`t rewarding, and the demotion thingy makes it also very stressful. I also do not enjoy expeditions, as it is kind of a stealth mode and it makes zero sense to me in an horde shooter (I do want to shoot the bad guys not to avoid them).

Repeting auric maelstrom ad infinitum doesn`t sound fun tho, suggestions?

[static wyvern]

didn't know you could that thanks

[clear plume]

What are you playing on?

PC or console

I play on PC and when I got bored of the normal missions I started learning solos

Using mods

[shadow skiff]

You can play it loud, just expect it to get hard and chaotic.

[static wyvern]

Idk me personally I just play new weapons or try some different builds instead of caring much about the progression, havoc reward for me is just getting better, the jump in difficulty that i went through 20 to now 34 has been insane and very much so engaging

if you need some progression or reward though I'd say that is just a weak point of the game

its fine to just idk play something else if you're not enjoying it imo lol

[safe lichen]

When you finished a game -- & the cutscene sends you to the operative selection menu, & you don't get the loot.

frustrating

[safe fox]

So I recently been playing heresy difficulty and I have problem handling horde of melee specialist that are hard to kill.
Are there any tips that I can follow ?

I only play veteran right now

[mint cave]

well, they jsut did a hotfix, so the ai director is mad bitcy for a couple weeks, so it will likely chill out

in the mean time, maybe try wepaons with a perry feature like divels claw or dueling sword

[safe fox]

parry hmm ok

[graceful raptor]

is power sword still a good thing? i think you can use it too

also parrying is not always good, especially when you have to deal with a bunch of enemies

it takes time to time your parry

imo

[safe lichen]

What's the general countdown of the Havoc Heinous Ritual?

[clear plume]

Main Modifiers (S2) - Heinous Rituals
"Reports indicate that the Admonition has begun creating more Daemonhosts in this area, stop these rituals before it's too late."

• Spawns daemonhosts around the map, each one surrounded by 8 ritualists.
• Healthbar appears when ritual is active. Activation is based on how far you get in the map.
• When ritual is initially active there is a slow increase to progress, this slow tick rate has a 9x speed reduction. Activates when you're within 30m
• When close tick rate increases dramatically (within 15 meters), with a proportional decrease per cultist. (+1/8th tick progress per alive cultist)
• Progresses to full speed when ritualists take a small amount of damage (5%)

Hab dreyko has 3 rituals
Gloriana has 4 rituals
Power Matrix has 5 rituals
Magistrati Oubliette has 5 rituals
Dark Communion has 5 rituals
Vigil Station Oblivium has 5 rituals
Ascension Riser 31 has 5 rituals
Relay Station has 5 rituals
Comms-Plex has 5 rituals
Enclavum Baross has 5 rituals

from

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3375980903&searchtext=havoc

[safe lichen]

Yea, I mean -- how much time does squad have til it activates? 4 minutes while all cultists alive & untouched?

[clear plume]

Depends on its speed and how many cultists are alive

[safe lichen]

Appreciated.

[clear plume]

Is this from one of yours? I just used combine's

[cerulean bronze]

yes: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3318538305

[clear plume]

Okay, thank you

[eager flame]

A vet has the shout and stealth ults to create space. The shredder nades will also stagger and weaken enemies. Krak will delete big threats. Either ult will give you time to prep nades. Fastest way to throw them is RMB/aim down sights and LMB/fire to lob it at the floor in front of you. Until you are good at reading enemy telegraphs it will be easier to stick to agile weapons so you can block, dodge and attack during openings. The bigger the mass of enemies the fewer openings you will have. Parry on devils claw/dueling is good for one on one fights but will not protect you from more than one attack at a time. Make the enemy chase you by jumping over ledges or dropping down a ledge to give yourself some time to attack before the horde is back on you. Circling/kiting is a good counter to things chasing you down if you don't have enough crowd control to suppress them.

[safe fox]

Thanks
I saw some video they called it dodge dancing (?)
I saw them do it so fast and smooth
And I feel like I do it very clunky
Do they have dodge not put at spacebar ?
Cuz everytime I use spacebar to dodge the dodge does not register immediately

[eager flame]

You want to split jump and dodge so they are not the same keybind. It will be faster/more responsive that way. I have dodge bound to Mouse 4 and jump is spacebar but whatever you prefer. In Settings --> Keybindings look for separate inputs for jump and dodge. You can clear/delete the combo input.

[safe fox]

Ahhh thanks

[radiant roost]

Is the Ogryn able to climb over things or is it unique amongst the classes in its inability to scale obstructions?

[graceful raptor]

ogryn... can climb over things (?)

like other classes

[radiant roost]

hmm I'm finding I'm unable to. Could it be due to rebinding the jump to be separate from the dodge? I'm still able to climb over things for all other classes but not Ogryn.

[graceful raptor]

he definitely can

[eager flame]

If you hold jump you will be able to hurdle railings/ledges. It may still glitch out from time to time but should be much more consistent.

[radiant roost]

like I can't properly exit the Rolling Thunder level because I can't get on top of the crates to jump inot the Valkyrie for example

[graceful raptor]

press jump, release, then press and hold jump

quickly

[radiant roost]

So no different at all than the other classes?

[eager flame]

Ogryn became more difficult to traverse obstacles after a year or so of patches to the game. It works the same but his hitboxes became less responsive to mantling obstacles. So long as you hold jump or release and hold jump again Ogyrn should get over ledges more consistently but they made him more of a pain to get over railings a while ago and never changed it back.

[radiant roost]

Yeah I just found some old videos and reddit posts talking about this often being an issue. It seems to indicate I might need to look down at the object I wish to vault differently than human sized characters. Unclear to me if there are places that other characters can vault that I can't or if it is purely mechanics or if I did something when I rebinded the controls that is only impacting my Ogryn

[eager flame]

It may be more pronounced with separate keybinds but I have had them split since launch and Ogryn was much easier to vault with back then. Looking at the ledge may also help. When it comes to trouble vaulting vs trouble dodging I would still keep the binds separate personally but try it out for a while with someone other than Ogryn if needed and see what you think.

[radiant roost]

This might be silly but does anyone have a clip of an Ogryn hurling an object to give me a sense of what height he can get over and maybe I can find the same place in the level to try to hurdle? Im actually not easily finding clips of Ogryn hurdling over things

[eager flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL8KG94PJp8

8:40 Jump is looking down at a 45 degree angle or so.

[radiant roost]

Thank you!

Looks like it doesn't go on the first attempt and there is no animation like others get so I guess this is finicky

[eager flame]

Yes. It will do a vault animation at times but I have had to stick with it until the animation kicks in after a few attempts. Ogryn is just a problem for now.

[radiant roost]

Yeah I am unable to get over that exact fence with Ogryn. Tried messing around with different jumping options. Pressing it differently, holding it and such. Changing the key binding back to default doesn't seem to fix it. I'm wondering if perhaps a mod I installed is causing an issue.

[shadow sentinel]

Hi,
I'm looking for help with Havoc.
My wife and I are playing mostly Auric Maelstrom. Because of our child we don't have so much time for playing. We play mostly in the evening. We are from Germany and would appreciate any help from other players. German would be beneficial, because my wife is bad at English. Ukrainian would be good for my wife, but I'm not good at it... but English would also be fine.

I'm playing mostly Arbiter (meta build) and my wife Zealot (don't ask about that build... 😅).
We've played over 300h... that's not much, but we have a little bit of experience.

Our Havoc level should be 16, due to finishing Auric Maelstroms. Otherwise we don't have experience besides a few games with only bots... 😅

I fear we need people who can clutch or aren't afraid of losing a round.
We are playing for fun and don't mind other average players. So, we would even play with other newbies and could figure out Havoc together.

[eager flame]

No that fence in particular is very tricky for ogryn after a patch impaired his vaulting ability. Which is one reason why you see every Ogyrn in a youtube video avoiding it altogether and just dropping on the open side. I have done it with and without mods. Makes no difference he still won't leap the railing 90% of the time.

[radiant roost]

Well if anyone has a clip of their Ogryn vaulting over something easily that perhaps includes the animation let me know so I can try to recreate

[eager flame]

You will likely want to post in the vox-lfg-emea channel further down. EU is mostly asleep this time of day/night but you can likely find players on weekends or try vox-lfg-nasa since they are up later if the ping is tolerable for you guys. East Coast US and EU is generally decent and you can host from EU in-game.

[shadow sentinel]

Thanks for the hint

[potent beacon]

Can someone help me get the zealot achievement for killing 40 stunned? I got 39 and i've been trying for hours in solo in Mortis trials and i cant do it 😡 been trying for the 60 ogryn one too but these bots are trolling and cant group them properly without 2 people ;__;

i'm going slightly insane

[sharp mountain]

Its easier if the bots are dead

[potent beacon]

I just got the ogryn one but i've tried the stun one so many times

xD

[little coyote]

Are you using a flamer for it

[potent beacon]

i only have a low level flamer tbh

i mean i got 39 so its doable but its just getting them together etc

i will try a couple more times 🥲

i do wanna be using this stunstorm grande perk right?

[little coyote]

What did it do again

Back when I did the challenge there were no extra perks

[potent beacon]

just increases the blast radius

[little coyote]

Yeah you do want that

[potent beacon]

alright because before i tried another one and it didnt work 🥲

I didn't play for like 4 years xD

[potent beacon]

nice i finally got it

[finite charm]

On the shocking stuff penance does it work with a fire grenade or it must be a stun grenade Anybody know?

[shadow skiff]

Must be stun. Can be someone elses's stun grenade though. Is why a dream team is oggy, vet, another zealot and you. Assuming they are all in to helping.

Oggy taunts and slabs to build up horde, second zealot to save seconds upkeeping the stun, vet for ammo crate grenades (skippable if you two are careful to not waste them.)

[pulsar pilot]

How do curio perks work? Friend suggested I run 3x revive speed and 2x gunner resist. I don't remember if there's Diminishing Rwturns or not.

[eager flame]

revive speed is additive, resist is always multiplicative

[pulsar pilot]

Oh okay! Thanks 😄

[finite charm]

Thanx any good map to do it on trials campaign? Difficulty?

[steep silo]

I remember doing it on Relay Station mid event, where you drop down and have to disable the big spinning fan

It spawns a big horde right at the start when you jump down

[shadow skiff]

Mortis trials, wave 3 earliest. Wave 6 if you need the ammo crate refill or box refill.

Will suggest stealth on the other classes to decrease aggro so oggy can pull more to a corner.

Make the chaff pile up.

When it looks big enough, toss stun and burn with flamer.

I have helped someone who decided stun into activated relic can work, but note you need to be a little more precise then to make the most out of every swing vs just flamer burn.

Map doesn't matter, you just want a corner your oggy can stand with his back against so the only hits he takes is on his shield.

Wave 3 is infinite, so if you 'afk' for like 10~ mins, it'll more or less build up.

Can be less, but better a bigger pile to have insurance.

[potent beacon]

Guys anyone have tips or a great build for "flawless execution" I got up to 7 and got knocked off the map lol. I might play ogryn idk but this my last hard achievement

[near adder]

Generally i don't think a certain build is gonna do much to be honest, it's much more of a "skill requirement" achievement. Ogryn and Arbitrator are certainly easier to play and might therefore be the go-to if you really want the achievement.

[potent beacon]

im on 3 n

ogryn seems really nice

[near adder]

yeah he is, although he can struggle against disablers like hounds or trappers because of how big he is

[potent beacon]

I really need to buy the DLC characters they looks fun but maybe not for this lol

[near adder]

yeah i've had loads of fun with them for sure, arbitrator is the easiest class to play, and scum is definitely on the harder end of the spectrum

both are unique in their own way though

[potent beacon]

Yeah he looks like a glass cannon

the dog classs looks chill tho 😛

[near adder]

Yeah arbi is very straight-forward, and has some pretty cool weapons. I think the class that's closest to scum is Psyker, melee psyker specifically

so if the playstyle seems interesting to you, give that a shot :)

[potent beacon]

yeah sounds good, you convinced me. Someone went flying off the map and was stood right next to me D:

dammm

[near adder]

damn that sucks, unfortunately i don't think any class could survive that 😅

[potent beacon]

Yeah ahha i was so lucky 🥲

[near adder]

are you playing on the lower difficulties?

[potent beacon]

Yeah but i am chilling tbh, i came back after 4 years maybe like 2 days ago so just getting back into it really

its changed alot but its alot better with gear etc

[near adder]

yeah getting levels and power on gear is much more intuitive now

the reason i'm asking is because on the lower difficulties players are often less experienced, so things like barrels knocking you off the map happens less when everyone know's what they're doing

[potent beacon]

yeah thats what happend, it's all good though I got one dude with me who plays the game so its calm now

[shadow skiff]

No, In higher diffs, they do it cos funny.

[near adder]

have not had that happen to me before

[potent beacon]

Classic, I only ever got to super endgame in vermintide 2

[shadow skiff]

Especially if they can casually solo auric.

[near adder]

in my experience i've never had it happen because of them actively trying to grief

[shadow skiff]

Maybe you, but I have seen it. I was nearly blasted off H40 because some guy thought it would be funny. I just failed to fly off because of luck and he got mad because he does it to randoms.

Because funny.

And most of them actually get flung off.

If that one 'barrel' is useable.

[near adder]

in my 500+ hours i've never seen it on damnation, auric or havoc. Not saying it doesn't happen, because clearly it does, but it must be somewhat rare. Since i, and all my friends have never witnesed it

[shadow skiff]

Still, hurting your teammate with barrel damage in H40 kinda sucks.

[brave marsh]

What difficulty do people do for expedition penance grind? Heresy?

[shadow skiff]

Malice.

[eager flame]

"All of your friends" implies you have a significantly lower chance of meeting a serial killer because you tend to travel in groups of more than one when you play. It is said they are rare, even in America. But they do so love to isolate their prey.

[near adder]

I solo queue 98% of the time, sooo no

[eager flame]

then consider yourself lucky

[gleaming lantern]

Does brittleness and rending stack? I.e., I have a knife with uncanny strike and a talent or ranged weapon providing brittleness.

[void forge]

yes

you don't really need both though

because uncanny is already enough to reach the rending cap

[eager flame]

The way I see the two, brittleness is best combined with something that attacks rapidly (flamer, recon lasgun, light attack spam Ogryn, etc) to help light attacks do significant damage from you and the whole team. Rending is just for you and most benefits heavy attacks to ignore armor/resist and reach one-shot breakpoints easier/kill things in fewer swings. There is some overlap and you can utilize both together but videos I have watched show greater damage increases on light attacks compared to heavy attacks from brittleness which often needs quite a few hits to reach max stacks anyways.

[leaden turret]

Are people running health on Havoc now?

[shadow skiff]

Because health technically has more value per point due to being hit less with the nerfs from havoc. You still want to balance it to prevent toughness break from a single random hit.

[eager flame]

A lot of Havoc builds I've seen recommend maxing toughness and health in every possible spot you can on curios. I think this is generally overkill given the amount of other utility you can get from those curio slots but it can be useful to stack enough HP to survive a poxburster's corruption in high Havoc (100+ max HP). You don't need HP or Toughness buffs to beat H40 with any character though. It just serves as accident forgiveness.

[worthy dew]

also because it stops you from just dying to a burster the moment you get hit in high havocs

and more general health left over through corruption chip

[shadow skiff]

So 1 boom and 4-5 hp left? Cos that's what happens on min hp% increase.

This assumes psyker, vet and scum. Arby, zealot and oggy don't exactly need it to eat a boom.

Arby just gates it so some hp can be good for the 50 max damage gating.

[worthy dew]

oh and the enemy melee attack corruption gives hp much more value too

[finite charm]

Anybody know a good and early spot for finding hounds? Going for The psyker penance not even close?

[crimson bridge]

you are probably better off just finding hunting grounds missions. you can probably get 3-4 at least per wave.

But in general, the AI director tends to send punishment waves and specials if you dont progress on the map

[finite charm]

Ok so move forward

[crimson bridge]

so if you do chasm terminus for example and shoot the guys on the bridge instead of jumping down, you can start the mission but not make progress

the game will start to spawn snipers, bombers, dogs, mutants behind you

from the starting area

but it can also spawn monstrosities too (not sure how this works with different difficulties and modifiers)

[finite charm]

Send you a dm aswell.

[pulsar pilot]

Idk if hunting grounds count. They don't for the "push hounds in mid air one.".

[crimson bridge]

thats a possibility

would just need to check and find out i guess

[ornate harness]

Hey, I still get this "Backend error" since yesterday and nothing seems to work. Can anyone help?

[ornate harness]

Yes currently I have tried EVERYTHING but the problem insists.

[void forge]

Backend error usually indicates some connection issue to the fatshark servers

Are you using a VPN or something that affects your Internet connection?

[ornate harness]

Well I'm using a dns bc discord is banned in my country BUT I played with this game without even changing anything about the dns and it worked fine. I downloaded the game again but somehow I get Backend error now. It worked fine just a year ago, what changed?

[void forge]

Nothing, just keep trying

Usually with backend error it just takes a few tries to connect

Assuming there is nothing weird with your Internet connection

[ornate harness]

Well I tried at least 50 times since yesterday but nothing changes

[ornate harness]

Yeah it's 5G and stable, I can watch videos or play online games really stable

[pulsar pilot]

Are you on WiFi?

One time for me, it was a connection thing between the route to Fat Shark servers and my WiFi network. I swapped to the [my network name_5g] one from [my network name] and it worked.

I'd changed DNS, reinstalled Dark Tide, did everything in the FatShark FAQ etc, before that

[ornate harness]

Yeah I'm on WiFi and I tried that, changed from 5g to 2.4g but the error kept going. Also my friend and I use the same net and he uses ethernet cable and he gets the same error as me

[pulsar pilot]

Dang, probably FatShark being FatShark then. 🙁

[ornate harness]

well I use my last shot now by deleting and reinstalling the game

if that doesn't work either, I don't know what to do

[terse lily]

How do you do eta for the wasteland mission? I see no guide on youtube and the internet is empty, there is no nagavation so everytime I blindly looks for scavenge zones I pick up 200 tech remnants total it sucks

[eager flame]

The map is a circle and you can see the door/evac zone icons on the compass (at top of screen) so use that to walk away from where you want to end up and go around the edge of the map looking for sites of interest. It helps to have some idea of what they look like so do other zones first and get acquainted with the layout as best you can. Often, red cargo crates contain tech as well as chain link gated squares. You only need 2K tech to be done with it and you can get 3K if you know where to look in a single run. Often it is best to scrounge around for tech/salvage as you explore from one potential site to another in Eta's no map modifier. If you make a complete circle back to where you started just aim for the middle until you run out of time. Rad stimms (100 salvage) give you more time in the next zone so buy them if you see it in the shop.

[terse lily]

Awesome thank you

[uneven crane]

I need help completing the on overwatch and the make everyshot count. I dont have a mic but i can talk in a coms room. Please help

[eager flame]

You will likely want to repost this in the vox-lfg channel below for your region for matchmaking purposes. Make every shot count is easiest with a revolver if you aim at hordes to help prevent the team stealing your kills and ammo dumping into monsters with >25% HP. Avoid Bulwark shields and anything that can make your hit marker turn blue (allies, etc). Don't take the ammo regen aura and when you are out of ammo finish the map with melee. For On Overwatch you should be able to get that fairly easily these days by running an expedition with stealth ult, running to the evac point and leaving the first area without getting hit.

[worn jewel]

Can you guys rate which classes are the best at Havoc 40? like, all 6 classes.

[clear plume]

all classes on top

[worn jewel]

on top? what you mean?

[clear plume]

all classes can be best performers

[worn jewel]

Nah man. I refuse to believe they're all no.1 when it comes to havoc 40 surely there's a class better than the other

[faint perch]

Depends what people are good with

[eager flame]

People prefer to see the world in black and white when choice serves only to impede decision.

[forest canopy]

So is my game just bricked here?

Tried spectating teammate camera is just stuck

Game audio works but I can't see anything

Can still use chat though

[vocal nacelle]

Laggy session

Force Disconnect can fix that

[manic helm]

Hey I'm probably just not reading it right but how do I do the event challenges

[vocal nacelle]

At least Heresy difficulty the one with event modifier

[finite charm]

Anybody wanna help with The cliffhanger trophy? Need 3 people to block bridge. Would really appriciate it

[mental elbow]

is there any reason bots dont revive/cut nets anymore? all 3 just fight over who gets to kill the trapper like dogs over a rat... then all its buddies show up and the perfect 10 second window to get me back up is wasted and they all die

[shadow skiff]

FatShark likely broke something.

Or deleted a chunk from code.

[manic helm]

I was talking about the other quests

[radiant roost]

Is Arbites Priority Endowment worth taking for any ranged weapon other than the Double Barrel Shotgun?

[static wyvern]

taking it for spearhead boltgun sounds fun but i feel like there will always be better points, I dont take it on shotguns either

[radiant roost]

So many of the other talents buff reload speed so it makes it seem even worse when I consider it. Getting that third shot for the Double Barrel is nice though but I'd like to think that isn't the only weapon it is intended for.

[eager flame]

Decent clip boost on shredder/autoguns. You can have a true 6-shooter with the revolver for kicks.

[crimson bridge]

when in the lobby of a mission, sometimes when i go to change my talents, i just get stuck in this black screen

cant change gear or ready up

is there a fix to this?

[eager flame]

newish* bug. I mostly see it in Havoc. Should correct itself as you enter the mission but it does sacrifice the loadout managing pre-game. As with many FS bugs the best fix is to wait 6 months to a year for a fix. Possibly related to server sync issues depending on how far you and your randoms are from a central server. I have seen it less since updating my Nvidia driver to the latest and deleting the shader cache found in %appdata%/Fatshark/Darktide by deleting the file http_cache which is usually 111K KB but can balloon to half a GB or more as well as shader_cache.hans which will re-cache when you load the game again. No guarantee these steps are related to this bug could just be a case of correlation --> causation.

[crimson bridge]

ill try clearing cache and see if that resolve the issue

yea, mine was sitting close to 200mb

[shadow skiff]

It's likely lag. The Mourningstar you drop into after missions is related to the last game you join. So if you join a 500 ping game, expect to join a 500 ping Mourningstar after mission.

And basically menus are affected since they take forever to ping servers with packet loss to load your stuff.

[heady blade]

Hello I am new to the server so sorry if this is the wrong chanel to ask this.I have a problem that started happening recently.I play on pc and whener i get in the game i play normaly for like 5 or less min before everyone just like moves in a place or freezes.Then after like 30 sec i get kicked out with either error 2002 or 2014.Just wondering if anybody had the same or similuar problem and how to fix it.Any kind of help is appriciated

[shadow skiff]

Check connection to server. Mission table, look for settings, confirm if right server or try other servers even if higher ping to see if more stable. You can also try restarting your modem/router, but that might not do anything.

The errors are usually too much packet loss or unstable connection.

[coarse herald]

Does havoc count as a private game for the purpose of penances?

[eager flame]

To make a private game you need to press E (or corresponding input listed at bottom right of hub menu) in the mission terminal and select Private Game --> On. You need at least 2 people to run a private game. So long as those conditions are met I believe any mission type including Expeditions/Havoc should count for unlocking penances. Subject to change as new bugs/glitches enter with patches/hotfixes.

[south path]

Is there such a thing as stims etiquette? generally agreed on pecking order for who gets what stims or just 'whoever wants it gets it'

[strange thunder]

not really, the only thing that's good etiquette is med stimming ppl on their last wound

maybe stimming a teammate for some clutch boss or horde killing, but that's p situational

[south path]

i have helped a friend keep their chem dependency up with generic stims, does that work anymore?

and that was already really situational

[strange thunder]

it does

[south path]

coolio, thanks btw. Good to know

[strange thunder]

np

[keen sonnet]

Stimm etiquette is feeding all of them to me, the addict hive scum

[umbral pond]

Felinid DLC that just lets you put cosmetic cat ears and a tail on all non-Ogryn classes when

[patent jasper]

soon but its only the ogryn

[eager flame]

You can build a class around prioritizing for a certain type of stim and get greedy for that one type of stim. The Hive Scum who can heal the whole team with a heal stim for example. You can also save red for DPS ults and orange for long cooldown ults. Generally, it is good to apply a heal stim to a teammate who is on last life unless they are proving too likely to waste the opportunity (underleveled, etc). It is better to hand a stim to a teammate with weapon special rather than try to use it on them in a crowded room with the whole team around to prevent wasting the effect.

[ornate stag]

can u get penances in private games?

[clear plume]

yes

[ember hearth]

Okay, so I just finished the event. Beat the last mission for it and everything, 10/10 complete...except, I never got my Insignia. Is there anyone I can message about that? I worked my ass off to get it before the event was over, and I was looking forward to claiming that reward. Is there anyone I can message or talk to for help with that?

[shadow skiff]

My suspicions is you failed to load into the mourningstar before the event closed. So you just missed it.

[flat maple]

Yes in fact some require private games to earn

Which is annoying as those could be done in public

I don't have any buddies on darktide to do the private achievements

[shadow skiff]

Not without possibly annoying people with the speedrun one. Would you like it if a random zealot hit extract immediately on start after purposely getting hit asap, only letting you play long enough to meet the below 50% hp citera for 75% of mission timer?

Or worse, back to back people doing it to get their penances.

[south path]

Got it, thanks!

[pulsar pilot]

You can ask here or in the chat for your respective class. People will help 🙂.

[tame anchor]

i thought they fixed the 400 pt curio stamina bug

some 400pts i buy are +2 and some say +3

so weird

[shadow skiff]

They should give what is stated now. Could you do us a favour and test some of those 400 +3 in a real uprising game?

[tame anchor]

so psyk is likely wrong?

[shadow skiff]

Or any diff, just needs to be an actual server game.

[tame anchor]

cause psyk does differ from the two

[shadow skiff]

Just use 1 +3 400 stam and a melee you know the base stam of.

Then count. If it gives +3, is fixed. If just +2, Fatshark lied.

[shadow skiff]

Psykhanium lies about stamina.

At least for broken curios.

Is why test in a real server game.

[tame anchor]

says +16 in a game, which matches psyk

but why some 400 say +2 and some say +3 is beyond me

[shadow skiff]

Well, at least new ones are accurate now.

Pretty sure is some weird decimal rounding.

But at least they don't show +3 but is actually a +2 in a real game anymore.

[tame anchor]

huh, the old +3 i had that was +2 in game

is n ow fixed as +3

im basing it on the attack speed increase talent on scum

[shadow skiff]

Well, at least it now is accurate to what is shown. Makes it easier to get them now.

[tame anchor]

there goes all my melk bucks

[radiant roost]

For Havoc 30+ how does the OG team of Ogryn, Zealot, Vet and Psyker handle Moebian 21st? I'm finding with them coming in waves from both sides, it feels like we almost need another Ogryn or Arbitrator to maintain space so we don't get overwhelmed

[charred bloom]

How likely is it that arbites and hive scum dlcs go on sale anytime soon?

I was gonna buy them but heard there was an event this week so was wondering if they would go on sale

[zealous dome]

Usually at the end of May we have the skulls event
If you're lucky they'll go on sale then

[ember hearth]

If I start the event specific mission before the event timer runs out, and I beat it, when I arrive on The Morningstar I should still receive the reward. If not, then they shouldn't have event specific missions available within a certain time before the event ends. Also, I have beaten an event before where I did the same thing, and I still got the final tier reward...so I'm hoping I'll still get it.

[eager flame]

Horde clear belongs to the team. Depending on builds 1-2 may specialize in deleting trash quickly such as a flame staff Psyker. Chorus zealot can make room while the team clears. Dash or Taunt Ogryn can keep things on the floor pretty well and off the team. A lot of time in H30+ you are best served by moving as a unit to keep things off your team more than rushing around killing big things. Even the worst horde clear player on the team can poke at one thing at a time if they know to push every so often to stagger an attacker in between dodges as you circle with the horde so long as every 20-30 seconds someone is taking the pressure off with their abilities and not pulling more by running ahead to trigger more. Many teams will tell you coherency has no business being utilized in Havoc once they learn to play well enough to take care of themselves but a dozen little buffs can stack up to a lot of survivability especially for the uninitiated.

[eager flame]

Sales are quarterly give or take with potentially slightly better sales around XMas or a Warhammer event or game anniversary. They will likely also offer a bundle of DLC classes like they did with Vermintide 2 once they have released a bunch/all of them which will go on sale in the following years.

[eager flame]

Can't say for certain but so long as you can access the event mission you should unlock the next tier reward upon completion automatically if the +1 mission brought you to the reward milestone. Might not see the rewards listing on Tab menu after the event is over so it may be harder to discern if this was the case if you don't know how much plasteel/diamantine you had beforehand. There is an event tracker in-game at Sire Melk's that will show you prior events and reward trees but it may also be not accessible after an event meaning you would wait until the next one goes up in around 2-4 weeks.

[radiant roost]

Thanks for the reply. Maybe I need to get a sense of how to rotate more because it felt like waves upon waves were pushing us back and once the bombers got involved we got pushed into a corner. I could create space as the Ogryn with the power maul but I wasn't sure if the Zealot without chorus or Vet really has the tools to provide space to navigate

[eager flame]

For beginners to H30+, I recommend the whole team familiarize themselves with the "meta" builds for Havoc for their class. Not bringing gold toughness and maybe a bubble shield (while not a death sentence) will make the job of crowd control and keeping teammates from being chipped to death by gunners, etc much tougher. It should not be all on the Ogryn to hold a horde coming from multiple directions at bay. The LMB on the flame staff can stagger anything up to a rager for creating breathing room and chorus zeal/shout vet also provide CC while making the team somewhat immune to one-shots and incoming damage. You want cooperative builds rather than lone wolfs who can protect themselves. Psyker or Vet may be a good fit for running console objectives while the rest of the team keeps enemies off them with ults and attacking but anyone can so long as they can make themselves vulnerable with support from the rest of the team. It also helps to get a feel for the rhythm of advance and retreat that keeps you from pulling too much or getting stuck in a position that gets someone killed. Usually this just involves falling back around a corner to avoid gunners and circling/backpedaling with the team as you whittle down the hordes. Quite often this also helps funnel threats from multiple angles down a single chokepoint to narrow your exposure.

[strange thunder]

bubble is just bad in high havoc now imo, I only go shriek

for inferno that is, not been doing any bubble knight stuff

[rotund ermine]

guys

Which version of the Heavy Sword is Best?

[eager flame]

Pretty sure the IX gives you a strikedown on heavy 1 and then chains into repeating sweep attacks after heavy 2. You can also light, heavy repeating to get a slightly faster sweep combo for horde clear. Just block cancel to return to the strikedown. Meta may have changed over time with balance patches. One of the marks may have a better weapon special for chipping away at Carapace but that is the biggest drawback to heavy sword. You can Heavy 1, weapon special on repeat until they die though. Mostly the difference boils down to swing patterns but I like the IX the best among them.

[rotund ermine]

thanks

[strange thunder]

it's a bit of preference as well

I use 9

[cosmic lagoon]

which map spawns the most enemies/chaff? i feel like poxbreaker, even when using weapons such as the flamer or the flame staff, takes a stupid long amount of time to complete

[lime idol]

it is meant to take a long time to complete

[sick arch]

Since the patch has anyones graphics become hyper fluid like running water and the effects are all blurring together

[clear plume]

Check your settings

is motion blur on

fatshark likes changing settings after updates

[sick arch]

I will ha e to check in a minute

[eager flame]

Your GPU may also be altering settings. Assuming you have Nvidia, go to Nvidia app --> Settings --> scan window for Games and Apps --> disable the toggle for "Automatically optimize newly added games and apps". Not sure what equivalent is for AMD these days. In this case it may be turning on frame gen.

[sick arch]

I have geforce rtx 5080 so i will do so thanks

[sick arch]

What are the correct settings for best performance other than motion blur

[clear plume]

all off or low

[eager flame]

You may have to reconfigure/check settings in Darktide again after that but the changes should stick with that turned off.

[clear plume]

I don't do anything other then that

uhhh

I think someone in ogryn chat did a full breakdown

[sick arch]

Is 97 x 65 the correct fov? Motion blur was in fact turned on

[eager flame]

Yes that is default. Should equal FOV 90 in other games or so I believe.

[sick arch]

Dlss is on and frame gen is off. I have never looked at any of tbese things . Im a plug and play kind of guy

[eager flame]

I have DLSS on Quality with frame gen off on my 5070. Works fine for me.

[sick arch]

And is vsyn off or on for you

[eager flame]

I turn Volumetric Fog quality down to medium for performance but everything else is high. Nvidia tells me they recommend even higher settings but I don't notice the difference so much as I notice more stuttering when set the way Nvidia recommends.

[eager flame]

V-sync is monitor dependent. If you have a Freesync or G-sync monitor you should not need V-sync. If you notice lots of screen tearing, particularly when you look around turn it on.

[sick arch]

I mean ive never had video card or cpu lag and the graphics are fine for me as are the frame rates so i assume those ones are fine. Thank you for this advice and i will report back in a moment to see if its inplementation has ameliorated my issue

Oh what about ray tracing ?

[eager flame]

You may also want to check that depth of field is turned Off if things are still blurry.

[sick arch]

I dont see path tracing either

[lime idol]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1502703561438531604/2C4CB3F1DB9182A0.mp4?ex=6a03503f&is=6a01febf&hm=3ea6319d3772258d65a5f3b84ddceff31d41035dd935865fb66e095cb7bae9a5&

[eager flame]

Turn Ray Tracing off for Darktide. Too much of a performance hog and I believe poorly implemented in this game in particular.

[lime idol]

My settings are optimized for as much performance as I can get while keeping game looking pretty

You’re most likely going to be CPU bottlenecked in this game in intense scenarios

So u most likely have quite a bit more GPU leeway than you think

[eager flame]

Not sure what Path Tracing is. Ray Tracing is below Performance section in the Video Options section.

[lime idol]

The 2 most important settings for visual quality are light quality (medium or higher) and bloom (on)

Ambient occlusion also improves shadows quite a bit, just keep it on low

Off is not much better performance but looks quite a bit worse

The rest u can just do low/off the way u like

Decals are mostly VRAM related since they’re just textures

[sick arch]

Ok i have that . Also i have an i9 fairly ok processor . I just am not aware of hardware beyond “its good and wasnt TOO expensive”

[lime idol]

With my settings (4070ti Super, i7-14700f) I could get ~240fps in meat grinder with FG2x, 1440p

However I cap to a bit below my monitor refresh rate to improve my 1% lows and frame time stability

[sick arch]

Is the 4070ti 16gb? Pr 12?

[lime idol]

I also play on Linux CachyOS and it gets better frame time stability than windows 11

[lime idol]

4070ti Super is 16gb VRAM

[lime idol]

In most intense hordes I get around 130~140fps in same conditions

[sick arch]

In havpc 35 i get like 140 but also the issue seems to have been my motion blue. Thanks for the advicd and help

[lime idol]

It’s most likely cpu limited

Reduce ragdoll would help

[sick arch]

Hmm i just tried a level and poxburster was moving in slow motion. Maybe problem not solved. All of it was ok or atleast something indidnt ponder yesterday

Ill take to the forums thanks for the insight all

[hexed sand]

im trying to que for quickmatch and keep getting an error code

[eager flame]

The most times I have seen an error like that in a row is 5-6. Usually it seems to be a hiccup in matchmaking. Maybe a team wipes while you are joining, etc. When it happened multiple times in a row I closed Darktide, restarted and had no problem after. Assuming you made it to the hub you should not be experiencing network issues on your end. You may want to go to the mission terminal and press E (or equivalent input listed on the lower right of that screen) and check what server the game logged you into. I'm usually NA East but the game has logged me into China/SE Asia before because it lists that server as having negative ping. Hasn't done that in a while though although the ping remains negative for that server for whatever reason.

[hexed sand]

ty

[sick arch]

Is havoc 35 with poc gas one of the hardest modifiers (in rotation) now

[eager flame]

Because there isn't a ton of (if any) med stims in the Havoc version of Pox gas it does force you to counter the corruption or else limit you to playing hopskotch as you run through the map since Havoc already deprives you of HP which is difficult when Havoc hordes have a tendency to push teams around already. Corruption resist on curios or class talent trees may help. Wound curios and revive speed is another solution in theory for the Pox gas. Generally, pox gas is a hassle most people don't want to deal with in a Havoc situation but you can build counters that make it more trivial. Inferno is arguably also one of the nastiest 4th modifiers. The fact that Pox Gas only appears as a modifier on top of the usual Havoc setup makes it much more to deal with than a standard Havoc mission.

[vocal nacelle]

get hivescum with stim supply

[sick arch]

Thanks

[sick arch]

Ok ill trt thanks

[ornate stag]

do bosses count as elites with regards to +X% damage vs Elite type abilities?

[graceful raptor]

i dont think so

[eager flame]

Captains you want damage vs Flak. For bubble shield it is best to bring rapid fire attacks rather than high damage, slow attacks. Monstrosities you want Damage vs Unyielding. Pretty sure elite does not cover either.

[topaz schooner]

Any new tips to get dianantine n plasteel fast?

My buddy cannot handle havoc atm

[vocal nacelle]

damnation or havoc

you dont need high havoc

play auric maelstorm to skip to havoc 16

and play it once, its enough for new player

[topaz schooner]

She doesn’t even have gear at more than 350 atm lol

[graceful raptor]

then normal missions as high as possible

in difficulty

hoard resourses

just play the game

[shadow skiff]

Last resort is check on weekends if anyone is carrying havocs.

H40 box is worth 200~ damnation runs of resources.

[vocal nacelle]

QP damnation

[eager flame]

Events offer solid returns and have been showing up monthly for the most part. Apart from waiting for them I would quickplay for the tiny bonus it gives on heresy or damnation. Auric drops should be equal or nearly the same as damnation so no need to farm there while underleveled.

[topaz schooner]

Yeah I’ve been dragging her into damnation rounds

Helping her make builds has made me realize the struggle of not having h40 supplies

[tame anchor]

Events are 4000 diamontine for completing like 4 missions, damnation is like 250 diamontine or so, getting carried on a havoc 20 is like 2000

Or go find Alyssa on weekends and get cheesed for havoc 40 for 40k

[shadow skiff]

23k.

[pulsar pilot]

Captain's shield bug is back 🥲

[void forge]

Always has been

[pulsar pilot]

Aw lol

[clear plume]

never left

[thin ginkgo]

never left

[untold steppe]

has anyone had issues accessing the shrine to omnissiah?

[sharp perch]

i have an issue with the game sometime when i didn't play for a little while smart app control block one element from darktide which make the game not working and i always forced to re install the game each time it does that are they any way i can fix that once it for all ?

[shadow skiff]

Turn off smart app control, I guess.

[patent jasper]

does it say what element its blocking?

[sharp perch]

it show the message too fast but the only clue i found is because something with smart app control is missing up with easy anti cheat

[radiant roost]

any recommendations for good builds using power maul and Loyal Protector? trying to also use grenadier gauntlet but open to other options on that

[sharp perch]

i not sure since some stuff say turning off may put the computer at risk

[shadow skiff]

It will if you install and run random .exes and such off the net. But DT has no EAC. If there is, there wouldn't be rampant mods that may or may not be considered cheats.

[radiant roost]

With the Power Maul explosion and Fire Away, how many stacks of burn get applied? Just two or can it apply more in a single hit?

[sharp perch]

i turned off i did it because is been a while the smart app control have been missing up with darktide and another game starship trooper

[shadow skiff]

Likely removing files and permissions. If you want, you can try verifying files before you play, but that can also take some time.

[eager flame]

I haven't tested this but from looking around it appears that if you take the Power Maul blessing Power Surge to add a second explosion you can get 4 stacks of burn potentially from one weapon special. Needs to hit armor to proc though otherwise just 2 stacks. The source I read is old so I also can't vouch a patch hasn't nerfed this. GamesLantern: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff2f225-daa6-4b08-88cd-b2b7bba993dd/power-maul-rework-new-synergies

[radiant roost]

Right ok so it isn't exactly just a larger explosion but a double explosion. Since the change to Batter do you know if the horde combo would be spamming light attacks or spamming heavy attacks or is it something different? I had assumed heavy but I've now seen a couple videos where it looks like light attacks and I'm assuming that is Batter related.

[eager flame]

For starters, I assume you have leveled far enough to unlock the ability to use it? If so, may need to lower settings and restart game after deleting shader cache in %appdata%/Fatshark/Darktide. Delete http.cache and shader_cache.hans. When you restart the game it will recache shaders. AMD cards in particular have had issues loading the in-game menus (penances, inventory, crafting station, etc). The shader cache has a tendency to balloon over time with patches which may be part of your issue accessing it.

[eager flame]

The explosion and burn stacks are the same and the heavy sweep attack takes so much longer to set up alongside the weapon special that I would think light spam would be the best way to proc it. Also, to hit armor you may be better served by the overhead light attack to make sure the explosion doesn't trigger off some trash standing next to a mauler, etc.

[radiant roost]

o sorry to clarify I meant in between special attacks.

I agree the special definitely works better for the light overhead

[eager flame]

I usually open with a heavy but the light spam combo does a fine job of clearing trash now.

[hollow cradle]

on what aspects should i focus on if i want to be better as a veteran main? i play a sort of sniper build with plasma gun but i wanted to know if maybe i should focus on certain aspects of the team like covering them when they’re agaisnt a mixed horde (mauler in between 8165 rotters) could a veteran main suggest on what to improve?

[eager flame]

The first thing you want to focus on is making sure you are prepared to defend yourself from the hordes the randos leave you for dead to handle since Vet is squishy. Shredder nades can accomplish this to complement the plasma gun since it can often handle the bigger enemies itself. You may want to play shout or stealth to give yourself some breathing room until you know you have a team that will protect you as you snipe or until you are comfortable enough with your melee weapon to dispatch threats with that alone. Vet support options revolve around running objectives and rezzing with stealth or feeding toughness with shout and middle tree talents. Vet toughness can be very good with Iron Will so long as you can get back to full toughness when needed. Field Improvisation isn't needed but feeding nades to the team can be useful depending on team composition.

[hollow cradle]

thank you very much

[radiant roost]

Do you think with the Power Maul if you take Slam which adds an impact bonus, then for Loyal Protector it makes the most sense to go with Go Again! so you can spam the ability? If doing it with the Rumbler which I assume staggers, does it make it a no brainer?

[eager flame]

If you are running Loyal Protector, Go Again is generally going to offer more utility than Valuable Distraction due to uptime on holding aggro for the team. Slam is a good skill and mandatory if you run Loyal Protector due to being next in the tree. May be overkill if you happen to be running Impactful on the Heavy Hitter keystone or at least you will hit the cap on impact/stagger potential.

[eager flame]

Rumbler will stagger the types of enemies who will usually die right after from an explosion provided it does not bounce too far away. Depends on what types of threats you plan to go after with it. I find I am often running adhesive and shrapnel on Rumbler which won't stagger anything it sticks to anyways but stands a better chance of killing them and chipping away at monstrosities.

[umbral pond]

https://youtu.be/BLzxuIfD9rU?list=RDxWwlaiz88g8
So That's what the Warp is like

[lilac pawn]

Hey, is there a mod to increase the amount of voicelines played by the rejects?

[clear plume]

Yeah

[radiant roost]

In Magistrati oubliette tm8-707 if the twins appear immediately when you enter the tunnel at the beginning of the mission. Are you supposed to stay in the tunnel or get out of it? Or do some teammates stay while others leave?

[smoky ember]

doesn’t elaborate, like a boss

[clear plume]

True!

I answered the question

[smoky ember]

ainz is in his petty era apparently

[clear plume]

its not like I have access to any of those mods

[smoky ember]

you could’ve clarified that they’re illegal mods

[clear plume]

pretty sure they are all private besides the yes/no one

[smoky ember]

and that putting them here would result in a ban

[strange thunder]

I had to block a few of them that kept shouting about power cores/medicae the whole mission

just insufferable

[clear plume]

yeah

thats one of them

[strange thunder]

at least the zealot pretending to be an ogryn is funny

[clear plume]

that one is good

sadly iirc they patches it

so they cant change it anymore

[strange thunder]

rip

[clear plume]

I like how they patch the funny mods