gameplay-help

[bitter violet]

And On Overwatch and untouchable.

I helped my friend get them by loading in and extracting immediately.

[tepid elm]

For the vigilant autogun (all really, but most interested in Mk 7) do people typically ADS or use crosshair?

[strange thunder]

it's more of a precision weapon, so def ADS

[tepid elm]

Is infantry lasgun basically the same?

ADS mostly?

[strange thunder]

yes

[tepid elm]

Thank you, I appreciate it.

[thick surge]

How am I supposed to get this if I have every grid unlocked?

[balmy moat]

more grid points will rotate

probably

[thick surge]

[balmy moat]

same'

[eager flame]

Early Access Grid Points

[radiant roost]

What is a perfect block

[clear plume]

Block an attack within the first 0.3s of blocking

[radiant roost]

Thank you'

[undone maple]

Can you ever reallocate weapon blessings? What happens if you can’t and you chose bad ones?

[balmy moat]

at hadron you can

or if you mean point wise, you will fill them all out in the end by lvl 20 mastery

the point selection system is just there because ... fatshark i guess

[undone maple]

Gotcha lol

[short bolt]

one thing i've wondered recently is if anyone has put in the effort to map out the different missions, or if there's an official resource on that. been thinking of doing one myself to see if maybe it'd help with more complicated maps "pathing" and where the enemy triggers are. it could be more easily communicated to new or struggling players, but also i've started to get fond of certain ones and think it'd be fun to draft out.

so uh, is there stuff like that out there already?

[clear plume]

Not that I know, but there are tools to see the triggers

Learning them just comes from experience and time

[void forge]

I know there are some bird's eye view maps where you can see the layout of missions and such, no triggers or anything of that sort though

[short bolt]

sure enough, that experience comes in the form of a kind of PTSD-induced spidey sense. i respect everyone who's learned that way, it's part of why i love the game so much.
just wish i could share that knowledge with a graphic or such.

[short bolt]

perfect! is that a shared resource somewhere?

[clear plume]

I was tempted once to just no clip through a map with the debug tool

but I never went through with that

[short bolt]

if you're lucky a mutant or beast of nurgle will do it for you. there's some fascinating stuff going on just behind the walls!

[void forge]

I think it was an old Reddit post, showing how maps that shared the same tileset overlap

[short bolt]

there's some parkour experts out there too that explore some more exploity shenanigans but not really what i was curious for.

[clear plume]

What I was saying would be related to triggers

[void forge]

Unfortunately I don't think there is a way to see each individual map, unless you contact the guy who made this graphic

[short bolt]

that's beautiful! a great place to start then. appreciate it!

[balmy moat]

i sent you a DM

[radiant roost]

Are there any videos that do a good job explaining melee combat and tactics in different scenarios? Trying to see what skills I might be missing or misunderstanding to make the jump to Havoc 21+

[clear plume]

I cant think of one explaining it

but there are alot of showing ones

https://www.youtube.com/@AinzDT

I solo H40 but dont talk in my videos

if you ever need just timestamp something and I can explain my thoughts

[radiant roost]

Yeah I'm finding a lot of the videos show the mechanic but don't really show examples of when to apply them. Obviously because of all the weapons and class behaviors it might not be consistent.

[radiant roost]

Appreciate that

[rotund ermine]

Ah shit

I forgot to ask about this and I hope no overlaps. In the Forums did anyone wrote a topic on Sentry Guns for Expeditions?

I made a topic where Sentry Guns can be called and help defend an area after calling it via a grenade or beacon

[dapper shard]

There is a sentry gun-like consumable in Expeditions already, and it’s called Valkyrie Fire Support or whatever

[rotund ermine]

gunship yeah

[rotund ermine]

Sentry gun is more on Places where in doors like the Caves

and some corners

[dapper shard]

Yeah, but they don't have anything that could be resused as a turret in the Expeditions, in vanilla game, and plenty of things that can be resused as throwables and mines. There's no need for a turret if you are giving players all the tools that can already be used well in this format (short objectives with several waves of enemy engagement); denying an area from enemies is probably not what they'd had in mind + there'd be issues with clipping and whatnot, had these been given collision.

[rotund ermine]

ah ok

[craggy minnow]

Anyway how would you deploy the turret somewhere you cant get a flier to

[rotund ermine]

Actually I should revise it, Either Drop off via Masozi with a beacon/grenade or "Carry It" as something like the other Utilities

[rotund ermine]

Carrying it like a crate or backpack like item and setup manually on where you stand on

[steep silo]

Could be a luggable like the fire barrel

[radiant roost]

Does every weapon only have one type of push attack? Or is there a light vs heavy push attack? Or a way to charge up a push attack to do more damage in some way?

[strange thunder]

using a light or heavy after a push attack can lead you in to hidden ones that aren't available from a normal light or heavy combo

but the push attack is always the same

[cosmic lagoon]

wait so not only is rolling steel a terrible experience if you get players who don't know left from right, it's also terrible xp/dockets?

[strange thunder]

why does left vs right matter

[charred bloom]

If I complete an auric maelstrom do i get access to higher ranked havoc missions?

[strange thunder]

your starting havoc ranked mission becomes 16 instead of 1

but you can always join someone elses game, no matter your rank

but most don't want to invite low ranked players to the highest ranked ones

[radiant roost]

Is Havoc 25 or 26 a big jump in difficulty from Havoc 24?

[safe lichen]

When the game fucking freezes into a starfield...

Fucking annoying.

[haughty harness]

Hey anyone can help with The Bell Tolls for Thee penance?

[keen delta]

do you still need it ?

[charred bloom]

What are good blessings on the dueling sword, I have riposte uncanny strike on my zealot rn?

[steep silo]

Those are good

[thick night]

Guys pls help, which mod display Brittle? as a shield icon over hp
see this in Mister E vid

[keen delta]

debuff indicator ?

[haughty harness]

Already done, thanks for reply

[thick night]

Nah. Or i just cant find setting.
In debuff indicator debuffs looks like numbers or full name.
But in vid, look like yellow shield icon (over HP bar).
I cant find mod who displays this icon.

[tame anchor]

wtf, i just had a mutant push me into the landing pads of a valkery

[thick surge]

Can quickplay shove you into maelstroms?

[tame anchor]

and i got smushied

[strange thunder]

no

[thick surge]

Also, am I crazy or did the Daemonhost used to kill everyone back on damnation or higher back in the day?

[stoic locust]

Yes

[graceful raptor]

yes

[stoic locust]

Only 2

[graceful raptor]

i wish it was like this now

[thick surge]

Now it only targets one person, even on Auric. Which sucks because three times now I've watched a teammate accidentally hit one through understandable means and while me and him are dealing the host the others are doing a lot of 'not my problem'.

It's infurating.

[thick surge]

It should be. Title hunters are a plague upon Auric right now.

"But people will use it to-"
You can already Tk and troll so easily with barrels, box pursters, item stealing, or even just standing in front of someone so they can't see. We have vote kick. Daemonhost feel like even bigger pushovers then before because you can ignore them if you're fine with having 3 out of 4 of a team for a bit.

[dense tulip]

instead of buffing the shit out of crushers they should've done it to daemonhosts

[strange thunder]

no

no point in making an avoidable map hazard tankier

[thick surge]

No one said anything about making it tankier. But it should be more of a threat.

[strange thunder]

it is already one

[thick surge]

Not really.

Maybe to one dude.

Everyone else can (and often does) just ignore a Deamonhost when it gets angry.

[strange thunder]

maybe you need to play on higher difficulties then

[thick surge]

...

[thick surge]

https://giphy.com/gifs/9G3wg7lH5DpxC

[strange thunder]

I don't have that problem there

[thick surge]

Did you actually just say that unironically?

Brother, I play Auric and Havoc is there a extra hard mode I am missing?

[thick surge]

This is a lie because it's not a problem you can control.

Daemonhost only ever target one person.

[strange thunder]

you can't decide what my experience is

[thick surge]

They kill them. THen vanish.

I am not.

[strange thunder]

I don't have ppl leaving me

[thick surge]

I am telling you a basic game mechanic.

[strange thunder]

or me leaving others targeted

that's all I'm saying

[thick surge]

Cool, congrats on getting good teams? Or having a private group?

[strange thunder]

no just randoms

[thick surge]

Yes.

Congrats on getting good teams. I said that.

[balmy moat]

i mean

either you're the one leaving people to die, or youre the one shooting DHs

you did kinda out yourself

[thick surge]

No I didn't.

???

You didn't scroll up, did you?

[balmy moat]

"Everyone else can (and often does) just ignore a Deamonhost when it gets angry."

so you fight them every time a teammate aggros one?

or do you leave them to die

[thick surge]

Are you saying I outed myself as fighting the host and trying to help the teammate or I outed myself as someone that runs away? Because what you just quoted makes it obvious what I do.

[tame anchor]

i find on havoc if its in a really bad spot, sometimes its just easier (depending on team comp) to just gank the thing when theres a lull

if it gets aggro'ed when the next wave spawns, thats when things go really downhills

in an uncoordinated pub, it'll already wreck someone pretty easily

[thick surge]

Depends, if you just block and dodge (unless you actually know the timings to hit back) then you can stay alive for a pretty long while. Which is why it's frustrating watching people walk away from it. Just kill it, it's not going to randomly change targets because you decided to shoot/bash it and you lose nothing from helping a teammate.

[tame anchor]

ya, its frustrating to not get help killing it

[thick surge]

So I have a theory bsaed on good teams, bad teams, and 'gets the job done but wtf' teams.

I think a lot of people are trying to farm the 'don't die' penances in Auric.

Because I've noticed. If you ONLY care about yourself, you play differently. I've been in missions where the team was so bad I just went selfish mode. It's a noticeable difference. Demonhost require you to use either your ammo or get close to bonk it which risk getting caught in a few swipes and taking corruption damage.

So they don't do it.

[tame anchor]

ive had lightsout games where myself and another zealot were both trying to kill every DH

was kinda funny

i brought a hammer and he brought a knife

[thick surge]

The biggest giveaway if I have 'those' kinds of teammates is if I am constantly getting hit in the back or if they ignore specials that aren't on them.
Also, if you turn around to kill enemies from behind like gunners/dogs/netters/bombers they WILL sprint off and leave your ass in the dust. I mean yeah, those enemies will follow you throughout almost the entire map. But not their problem until it is.
Things like that.

[tame anchor]

Meanwhile my ogryn is a pancake in some dessert

[bitter violet]

The non-maelstrom one is really easy to get. Meanwhile I’ve been dying repeatedly in dark communion because folks can’t even reach the underground. =(

Also if someone aggros the DH, it’s not always worth everyone taking the corruption. Can be better to just let the person who messed up die and pick them up after.

I have more issues with people moving too slow and not keeping up than people moving too fast and leaving us behind.

[sick arch]

I cant parkour at all. How can i become better at what should be simple. For example - i tried to get dark communion martyr skull and kept missing jumps for 30 mins

[balmy moat]

practice, really. turning off sprint toggle helps

[shadow skiff]

Use the knoife maybe? Also, learn when standing jumps and when sprint jumps is needed.

[sick arch]

So for all parkour you dont need sprint at all?

[sick arch]

I see

[balmy moat]

sometimes you do, sometimes you dont

depends how far you need to jump

but having it on toggle makes it harder to control momentum

[thick surge]

GUys, is it normal for players to be worst in Auric Maelstorm then regular Auric?

I've had baller teams all day, I hop into maelstorm and I had to carry the whole thing and the ONE time I get downed when a netter ges me through a floor, everyone dies.

[graceful raptor]

maelstrom is harder than auric, no?

[thick surge]

Yeah.

Special spam.

[graceful raptor]

question is answered

[thick surge]

Right. I could understand losing more often, but these guys legit just lack basic gameplay skills. They keep getting one-shotted by pox bursters, netted, and dogged of all things.

[eager flame]

Many people play team games to have an audience for their performance and someone else to blame when things go awry. When you play video games to turn your brain off for a living (after work, etc) people may chase low stakes high octane experiences. That is a relative concept depending on the recreational activity in question. In Darktide, Auric difficulty (and for quite a few others - Havoc) is that 5th gear cruise-control joyride type of experience. Teamwork demands brain function that recreational users are averse to engaging (if not a foreign concept entirely). Higher levels of personal strategic function also requires skill that must be learned and engaged routinely to preserve.

[sick arch]

Maelstrom either goes incredibly well or chaotically bad

[thick surge]

Actually I think it's the time of day. At around 4-5 PM all the bad players seem to come out. For me the biggest thing is:

1. Do they understand how gunners/suppression work or will they let themselves get shot or shot in the back.
2. They understand a good defense spot includes somewhere they can also manever or are they going to try and hug a corner?

[thick acorn]

how does one even get to this level what

[clear plume]

exp exploit or speedrunning

[thick surge]

I gave up on true level a while ago. IT doesn't mean much. SOme people learn, some don't, some learn fast, some learn slow.

[thick acorn]

i use it for havoc

[thick surge]

It's not good for that either.

Might as well use "Auric Storm Survivor" as a metric.

A lot of players become individually very skilled but suck ass working as a team.

[thick acorn]

nah very useful for me

im 40 so i can at least filter those who already did 40

even if it doesnt show their actual assignment level

the fact that they already cleared on in the current season means they can at the veryt least survive or get carried

[thick surge]

That's different. WAnting someone who did havoc 40 before they join your havoc 40 is reasonable.

I assumed something else, my bad.

[thick acorn]

[faint perch]

Well said

[craggy minnow]

i use true level almost entirely so i can go "how was that guy so bad lol level 1000"

i dont do it in chat so its not toxic!

[languid jewel]

Not really its the same difficoulty but more modifiers

[strange thunder]

some HISTG missions on the normal board can sometimes be harder

[tame anchor]

some maelstroms are cheesy hard

like lights out, no ammo

If you dont have a team thats prepared for it, it can wipe pretty fast

some are legit a pain in the ass like I-II-VEG or the mass mutant, poxburster, barrel, sniper one

[cosmic lagoon]

where would be a good place to discuss modding?

[void forge]

The modding discord

Check #📌communities

[rigid marsh]

Can we either lower the enemy intensity for the new expediton or lower the 250,000 points to like 200,000? Its getting really tough to make it to that marker

[void forge]

You can get tech remnants on any difficulty

Same amount

[rigid marsh]

Ok Ill give it a go. thank you

Itll still take me another 54 matches roughly lol

[rigid marsh]

Nope still nutso. No matter the difficulty. still gonna take roughly 1200 hours to try and finish. Not joking

[wheat night]

Spending scraps is worst 🙂

I hope they tune down the numbers

[ocean leaf]

Is it me or is gridzone zeta bugged? It only gives 3 zones instead of 5

[strange thunder]

I'm getting problems with eta instead

I get the regular timer of 15 instead of 30

im loading a zeta now

will see what happens

yeah 3 of them

[wheat night]

Is it really zeta when you press tab? The game sometimes match me in other zones

[ocean leaf]

Yeah, we doublechecked that it's zeta. We're laoding eta now to see if we experience the same as Kalalokki

Yup, also 15 minutes

[strange thunder]

its gotta be some server fuckup

[rigid marsh]

Yup even malice difficulty its too stupid intense

[strange thunder]

its funny to get the time stimms and then it's only 3 rounds lol

[bitter violet]

In case any of you Veteran mains didn’t know (since it came up in the lfg channel) if you do a malice expedition and immediately extract you can get On Overwatch done in like 2-5 minutes.

That works for the 10 auric in a row without dying also.

[strange thunder]

10 auric in a row is a bit BM if you're not doing it in private games

I had one like that yesterday, just ruined it for the rest of us

[waxen pawn]

Can someone help me on the Penance "Just a Flesh Wound? We can do it on Heresy Threat.

[eager flame]

Unless you got it done already, you may want to repost this in the Vox Region LFG channel corresponding to your part of the world: NASA = North America, EMEA = Europe, etc

[waxen pawn]

I got it done. Thank you for the advice tho.

[safe lichen]

Dark Communion elevator cutscene enemies bug.

Never been fixed?

[thick surge]

So the debate with smoke, of throwing it at the enemy or at feet of team. I do both, I throw at enemy if there is a bunched of ranged bunched up but if gunners and snipers are sperad out I throw at feet. Do people really struggle to see through smoke? It's hardly there on my screen.

[strange thunder]

I use clear smoke mod so idr how it used to look

I think it also depends on your graphics settings

[balmy moat]

ik i cant see shit through smoke

bonus points if its a darker map

[hushed mauve]

same for me

[shadow skiff]

Was fixed, but FS broke it again.

[bitter violet]

Is the patch out yet? I just woke up and had to head to work so I haven’t seen it. I’m mostly wondering if they added enough nodes to complete the second pants penance.

[keen flume]

update out now but the new expiditions rotation is later

[safe lichen]

& today's patch notes of fixes & still-outstanding-issues, doesn't seem to notice it.

[wheat night]

Does this mean the sub 410 +3 stam curios are finally fixed?

[steep silo]

Allegedly

[bitter violet]

Not enough to finish the penance. =(

[shadow skiff]

Someone could test it. If they have some 400 +3 stams.

Though you might need to get a new one.

Just in case it only fixed it for new spawns.

[rotund ermine]

Just incase we can estimate how many weeks until new rotation

(Tech-Remnants and Expedition Map Rotation on April 14 2026)

[pastel forge]

either they actually give +3 stamina now or their description now says +2 stamina

[steep silo]

It's been 4 weeks since they came out, so probably either 4 week cycle or this first one was delayed on purpose since it's new

[rancid raft]

Is there any way to prevent or at least lessen the issues with framerate or lag on Xbox?

Half of the time it will be fine, but the other half of the time missions will be in what feels like 15 fps or less and it’s almost impossible to play.

This has been an issue since arbites was added, maybe even earlier than that. I already play on performance mode and it doesn’t seem to make any difference.

[bitter violet]

It’s been 28 days since beyond the hive was added.

So 4 weeks.

[rotund ermine]

I think so?

when was the patch released?

[bitter violet]

It has. March 17 to April 14 so it’s been 28 days.

[rotund ermine]

thanks

alright now keep tracked

[bitter violet]

May 12th should be next.

[tame anchor]

huh, neww expedition modifiers not that intresting. still think they playing it too safe

[bitter violet]

What are they? I won’t be home for a few hours to check.

[tame anchor]

we now have blight spreads added yay

lol

[wheat panther]

As someone who doesnt play often. Id play more often if my perk trees were not reset every time I login

[safe lichen]

I thought 410 was the minimum, & 400 were not the viable?

[wheat night]

Exactly

But the patch note implies they have fixed something. I'm guessing those 400 +3 stam now actually give +3

To be tested.

[steep silo]

Nothing burger for the most part unfortunately

The special one that unlocks after 200M tech
Has Voltaic storm and Blight

Then there is stuff we already had

Zeta with more sites
Gamma is low rad
Epsilon is Dust Vortex + night time

[bitter violet]

Got it. Ty

[hushed mauve]

same map i suppose?

[steep silo]

Think so yeah, didn't notice any new parts of map

The special grid point that requires 200M tech totally has some cool new map feature!!!

[hushed mauve]

sadge

[hushed mauve]

thats copium

[steep silo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1279574218950049814/diggin.gif

[bitter violet]

[shadow skiff]

They karking added blight. Shit needs a nerf to particles for ages now and a general nerf to unfunness.

[thick surge]

Responding late. But this is why I throw smoke at the enemies and only at our feet when I using stance to highlight specials for everyone.

Though I am probably not going to stick with it. It is very good against gunner hell situations but it's more of a clutch. A good team will deal with gunnners/snipers and ranged in general through other means and krak/shredder grenades seem more useful out of very niche circumstances.

[scenic steeple]

how is it possible for my mate to get kicked from the game when there was no vote cast

[balmy moat]

usually means they crashed and chose to not reconnect, or they crashed so hard the ame thought they quit

[scenic steeple]

her internet must have blew up gotdamn

[bitter violet]

Or more likely the FS servers decided she wasn’t going to play anymore.

Man I’m getting so frustrated with auric pugs lately. So many people that are absolutely refusing to advance and trying to clear everything before moving up.

I swear if the bots were more useful and I could make a private lobby solo I’d just do that.

[hearty ether]

whats the difference between elite and expert?

[balmy moat]

expert?

[rotund ermine]

sometimes when you disconnect theres no option to reoconnect. There are times when my game crash it never gave me that option

[vocal nacelle]

You mean Elites and specialist ?

[daring ice]

sorry it dont have any Expert to this game but Elite and special is yes

[hearty ether]

My bad yes it was special and elite

[vocal nacelle]

Specials is mostly disabler, trapper mutant dogs sniper etc

Do unique stuff

Elites is the harder hitting enemies like rager and crusher mostly armoured

[daring ice]

ill try send list then

[vocal nacelle]

For more information https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3568035743

[gritty harness]

elites are like upgraded trash mobs of regular rifleman and bruisers (e.g, gunners, maulers, shotgunners, ragers, etc)

specialists are special enemies who hinder and block your advance with player disabling/area denial tactics (e.g, flamers, bombers, trappers, mutants, poxbursters, etc.)

[daring ice]

👍 My internet cant make it sometime

[safe lichen]

Anyone verified that the 400 3-stamina curios are fixed?

[modern hare]

can anyone explain blessings and masteries to me? like, i just spend points and get permabuffs applied to my weapon or im supposed to do something else?

[strange thunder]

you have to apply them to the weapons at hadron

the masteries page only unlocks the various tiers of them

as well as max rating you can empower to

so you can pick two perks and two blessings per weapon if it's consecrated all the way up to orange

[modern hare]

also, how weapons stat percentage works? like, damage in numbers is 150/200, but it also has 50/70% damage, and i have no clue what that means

[strange thunder]

think of the 0-80% as 100-180%

a weapon with 0% damage doesn't do no damage

just reduced

and you generally want one stat at 60% and the rest at 80%

the 60% is referred to as the dump stat

[modern hare]

so i have power sword with 196/302 damage, and it has 52/80%, thus real damage is 297/543?

[strange thunder]

the actual stats and what they do is very obtuse

no they aren't related 1 to 1

[graceful raptor]

52 is current damage, 80 is max when you fully empower it

idk wtf kalaloki is talking about

[modern hare]

ngl sharks seems to nail mechanicus bullshittery and barely understanding stuff

[strange thunder]

yes they do this with blessings and talents as well

[strange thunder]

they were asking about stats that you can see on the inspect page prob

[graceful raptor]

they? he is singular here

[strange thunder]

you can use they in singular

[graceful raptor]

he asked just about what 50/70% mean

[strange thunder]

idk why you gotta mention that tho

[graceful raptor]

you started educating him on whole system

like bro

[pure lintel]

idk if this is the place to ask but what is that global class voice deepener people have and how do you get it

[graceful raptor]

"global class voice deepener"? huh?

"global class"

[pure lintel]

a little mouthpiece that makes your characters voice deep and you can use it on every class

[graceful raptor]

cosmetics

it also says on the cosmetic page if it changes the voice

[pure lintel]

not helpful but thanks

[graceful raptor]

wdym not helpful

mouthpiece is a cosmetic from commodore

[pure lintel]

im not new to the game, ik its a cosmetic and i know certain cosmetics change your voice, but its not in the shop and I cant find it in the cosmetics section for any class or the shop

[graceful raptor]

then wait for rotation

this is a different question btw

[strange thunder]

old image, but also available to scum and arby

last time was prob a year ago?

[pure lintel]

yeah alright thanks, ive been seeing a ton of people use it recently and have never seen it before so i assumed it was new

which is why i asked how to find it

[strange thunder]

it was in a shop that had a big focus on augments

can pull it up, sec

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1n851fx/commodores_vestures_of_september_4th_2025_october/

it has also been featured in a mega pack of like 5 head augments

[sonic island]

Mechanicus but not mechanicus

[inner jetty]

Having a lot of trouble on Havocs 31+ just avoiding getting shot. I do fine until a coupla rifles show up then I'm screwed. Any suggestions on better habits for dodging, sliding etc? I do great in melee

[main egret]

Seconded, I really need to get better at that stuff as well so any help would be appreciated

[eager flame]

They have changed ranged AI somewhat over time. They are more likely to focus fire a single target as well as hide behind cover. The ones you can't ping can be very hard to spot in the corners of some maps. A team that is not showing any awareness of what their teammate is suffering from (gunfire) on Havoc 30+ is likely to lose them quickly. It helps to not advance to open areas until you are reasonably certain they are safe. Walls are your best friend against ranged. It also helps to have some solutions to the ranged threat. Vet smokes are great. Bubble shield or wall can help. Gold toughness is king in Havoc. You can dodge into a slide repeatedly to avoid ranged fire to a degree as you attempt to find cover but you really don't want to leave cover when there are ranged around other than to pop out and kill them.

[rotund ermine]

its great we get more eye augmentics with helmets or hats

I hope we get more combos

[balmy moat]

found the answer

[keen flume]

At least is now displayed correctly with the main stat

[hushed mauve]

did fatshark do any graphics update today? i hgave 100+ frames but ghosting and tearing like mad

dlss on off does not matter

same for v-sync

i tried updateing the graphics driver but it got only worse by doing so

[strange thunder]

there's not been any update since tuesday

[hushed mauve]

i foudn the issue

apparetnly for some reason nvidia decided to set raytracing to high xD

[eager flame]

In the past Fatshark updates have defaulted Raytracing to On. Could be Nvidia update caused a similar issue. I have had a few games where Nvidia wanted to override my in-game settings from Nvidia Control Panel.

[hushed mauve]

i rolled back to old drivers and set it bakc on low, no issues atm

[thin crest]

what is this fucking error. Lateley with this patch I crash randomly at some point in missions even when its completeley fine up until that moment. Crashed at the very end of a havoc that took ages but we were going to win and costed the game cause it crashed every time I tried to rejoin it

[strange thunder]

yeah me and other in the squad got 2014s and some other error for 3 consecutive havoc runs

[thin crest]

but what are these errors whats causes them

and what can I do

[strange thunder]

they're server errors

it's not on your end

if you're crashing with mods I suggest going to the modding discord and asking there

otherwise just wait for fs to fix stuff

[thin crest]

https://tenor.com/view/poro-poroagony-necroniks-gragas-sloppywalrus-gif-14002357396033739071

[safe lichen]

But, I can still see, 400 stamina-3 curios -- ?

It doesn't seem FS changed those already-existing curios.

[safe lichen]

Same for me, this havoc week.

& I don't run mods.

[thin crest]

https://tenor.com/view/vermintide-vermintide2-kruber-fall-mercenary-gif-26485751

[charred bloom]

Any one have recommendations for how to complete the shocking stuff achievement?

[thin crest]

ask your team to cooperate pushing and accumulating enemies then throw stun granade and kill them thats how I did it iirc

[charred bloom]

Got it thanks

Also if i complete an auric maelstrom will my havoc jump up to 20 the next week

[balmy moat]

16, immediately

[safe lichen]

Though, in my experience, it took, 2 AM finishes.

[eager flame]

From what I understand Fatshark made it so 400 stamina curios would read as +2 from now on but I don't think it reverted what it says on your currently owned curios. I just recycled any 400 or lower stamina curios when I discovered they only gave 2 stamina and replaced them as possible so can't confirm this theory.

[eager flame]

Yeah. Had a Havoc game crash with that code at the end of a run. 3 people crashed and 4th died while we were rejoining. One person on the team claimed it happened as they were opening a chest but I think it is some sort of desync. Fortunately it still seems rare in my experience as of the current patch.

[thin crest]

yeah it said something about conection to fs servers

[shadow skiff]

The thing likely only affects new curios. Old ones probably are now a broken rarity.

[opal nebula]

fastest way to xp grind?

[strange thunder]

grind for what, level 30?

[opal nebula]

true lvl

[strange thunder]

just play the game at a high difficulty

there's no reward for it so why not just have fun

[opal nebula]

the reward is higher true lvl which has its own implications

right now im just spamming quickplay aurics

only thing i can see being faster is speedrunning h40s but u need a good group for that

[steep silo]

h40s give same xp as normal missions iirc

maelstrom is where it's at

[fickle ether]

I think twins bell skip still is the fastest way unless they changed the exp reward on it assuming you have a 2nd

[opal nebula]

i tried to join that mission through special assignemtns but noi bells

[fickle ether]

Have to be with atleast 1 other person for bells to be there

[opal nebula]

had a full group

i suspect it only works when the mission is on the current rotation (and not specifically selecting it from the special assignments page)

but u cant farm that anyway since it will go in/out of rotation

[thin crest]

Why is it that sometimes it says someone is not eligible for havoc assignment for no reason even when everyone has claimed the weeks reward

[strange thunder]

just fs things

[thin crest]

wtf can I do about it

[strange thunder]

restart your game

don't think character select does it

[thin crest]

https://giphy.com/gifs/moodman-TJawtKM6OCKkvwCIqX

they dont let me start havocs they dont let me rejoin havocs they dont let me finish havocs

bro restarting does nothing now they tell me I have to cancel assignment which brings me down a level after it took me a long ass time to get it back

[strange thunder]

are the other ppl not restarting or?

[thin crest]

idk they are randoms

[strange thunder]

but you've got it twice with two different groups?

[thin crest]

yeah 3 teams assembled and left

[strange thunder]

I've never had the problem that persistent so I wouldn't know what else

[thin crest]

https://tenor.com/view/vermintide-vermintide2-kruber-fall-mercenary-gif-26485751

[safe lichen]

There some bug in -- Ascension Riser, finale?

Auric Maelstrom: waves of mutants, extra bursters, extra blitz.

Since entering the elevator final area -- barely any enemy spawned. & I do mean, barely. Not even 10 specials.

It was clear risings.

We even just plain walked from elevator to ship with the crystal.

[safe lichen]

They seem to still be available in shop.

[shadow skiff]

Wanna take the risk to see if real?

Cos my old fake +3 is still +2 in a real game. XD

[eager flame]

There is a new bug that locks you into an old Havoc mission with a team even after the group has been disbanded. If you go to the Havoc terminal the button that usually demotes yourself should say "Clear current mission" or something like that. For me it showed what Havoc game it thought I was in and the 4 teammates I had. You press/hold that button to undo the Havoc it stuck you in (DO NOT DO THIS WHEN IT SAYS DEMOTE). Outside of that the usual issues can apply like leaving a Havoc mission that remains in progress, etc. It could be someone else in your group with this bug as well so be sure to read what it says at the Havoc terminal. If it just shows your mission/modifiers with no teammates listed and the Demote button you are probably not the one with that particular bug.

I'm not sure if anyone other than host can get this bug but I was host when it happened to me.

[thin crest]

I later joined another team and same issue until I pressed that button

but idk if it demoted me

[eager flame]

Yeah it persisted for me even after leave/rejoin, restarting the game. It should not demote you if you just press it to clear the Havoc mission. After that it becomes the demote button again so if you press it again it will demote you. I kept my Havoc rank when I just cleared the mission.

[thin crest]

ok ty

but yeah this patch makes me crash so often and the teammates said the same

[eager flame]

Yeah crashes more often than previous now. Maybe once every 5-10 games in my experience? Not great.

[thin crest]

for me its much more often

this last game I crashed like 6 times in the same match and everything was twitchng and teleporting and delayed while I was in the game it felt horrible

when previous games had been fine it was sudden

[eager flame]

Yeah if it drops you it will likely continue to do so in the same match. May be desync issue with host or something like that.

[true wasp]

does rotten armor increase the hp or armor of the elites effected by it? i cant tell but it feels like its taking more hits to kill maulers, crushers etc

or, is that modifier only releasing the cloud of gas when they die?

[tame anchor]

they have damage resistance

[clear plume]

Main Modifiers (S4) - Rotten Armour
Reports indicate that the elite troops in this area are afflicted by the foul gifts of their ruinous god.

• Adds various stages of melee and ranged damage reduction:
• At >=90% hp, unit recieves 75% damage reduction. Between 75% and 90%, the unit recieves 50% DR. Between 50% and 75% the unit recieves 25% DR. Between 0% and 25% the unit recieves 25% extra damage
• 0.85x movespeed modifier
• Scab only
• Changes the trickle horde composition to be a mix of:
  A) 1 to 4 crusher
  B) 1 to 4 mauler
  C) 1 to 4 berserker
• Adds a green cloud around the unit, and changes their armour appearance a bit
• Scab berserkers, maulers and crushers spawn with the effect 100% of the time, and no other unit will have it
• Upon death spawns a gas cloud that damages the player

[tame anchor]

armor changes to infested as well, and they arent counted as elites, so none of your weapon perks matter

[clear plume]

from

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3375980903&searchtext=havoc

[tame anchor]

they are infested right? Its not still carapace is it?

[clear plume]

its normal armor class

[tame anchor]

why do things like kraks and rockets still nuke them

[clear plume]

Those are explosions

It's not covered by the melee and ranged dr

[tame anchor]

so rumbler and GG works? I thought they had stagger resistance

[true wasp]

wow. i knew something was up. this is a crazy modifier. thank u

[true wasp]

is it a good idea to change my weapon stats to be +% damage to infested instead of carapace when this modifier is active?

[balmy moat]

no

[small tartan]

im having a rlly wweird problem where I can put havoc into the party finder? like its greyed out and locked and i just wanna do my havoc mission bro

[shadow skiff]

Removed filters?

[small tartan]

ohhhhh

thx

[turbid zealot]

I heard somewhere that there's an option to automatically skip the opening cinematic, but I can't find it. Was I bamboozled?

[small tartan]

I mean there's a mod fer it

[turbid zealot]

Strange

[smoky ember]

console moment unfortunately

[gritty harness]

its because ur on console

fatshark gives u no free will

but cutscenes are disableable on PC

[tame anchor]

it was flavor text from fatshark that misled people

the armor type is the same

i found the community manager clarification last night hahaha

i dont know why but my game stops showing teammate highlights and name icons sometimes in close range

is there a setting that can accidentally turn this off? Or maybe a mod conflict?

[sweet vigil]

Does your havoc rank reset every week?

[tame anchor]

no, it drops to the lowest 10th every season reset

and it decays if you dont play

god so frustrating, on chasm terminus where you drop down from that broken overhang

immediately like 3 bosses spawn with a bunch of rotten armor stuff

we were doing so good until then

[true wasp]

just ran a havoc 24 mission and we were being one shot with crusher overheads. full toughness, even full hp one time. we wouldnt be put into DBNO, just straight eliminated, fully dead, waiting to respawn. is this a known bug? rotten armor/cranial parasite modifiers were on.

didnt happen just once. people were being killed outright throughout the entire game if hit by a crusher overhead

[clear plume]

not a bug

havoc modifier

melee attacks do a % of corruption damage

so if its a high damage attack the corruption will go past a wound

[vocal nacelle]

welcome to havoc

[tame anchor]

does corruption curios prevent it?

[severe goblet]

It can.

[tame anchor]

although maybe the ppl im playing with are just reaching their skill ceiling. We're hitting high 20's havoc and struggling to reach 30. I think we got to 29 and lost 3x

some games would just have a player get deleted out of the blue

curios probably wont solve much

[vocal nacelle]

Stack more golden toughness

[strange thunder]

overheads do massive toughness dmg, that doesn't help at all

[shadow skiff]

Gold just eats it for free. Well, one hit.

[tame anchor]

how does demonhost decide on who to attack when pissed

i thought it would attack me

ended up targetting someone else randomly

[shadow skiff]

If rituals, the one furthest away. If normal sleeping, the one who did damage to it first. Can be someone who applied a DoT first who gets targeted over you.

[tame anchor]

ya, i definitely attacked it

but i was further back

[strange thunder]

then it didn't do the final triggering

something else pushed it to wake up

[shadow skiff]

Rituals isn't the same as a normal DH as well.

[tame anchor]

it was at the bottom of the broken ledge drop of chasm terminus

i was trying to bait it with shield ogryn so we can just clear it outa the way

[shadow skiff]

Question, who got targeted, class wise?

[tame anchor]

veteran

[shadow skiff]

Could be bleed.

[strange thunder]

yeah most reasons just go for closest

so it wasn't actually you that got the final trigger

[tame anchor]

cause once it was cleared and (one of us were dead) - as soon as we walked into the area, twins + captain spawned

and it was joever

second time we got merked by a whole bunch of bosses right at that spawn

[strange thunder]

this is why I'm glad I never have to be in that havoc elo hell

[tame anchor]

wym?

[strange thunder]

20-30 is reasonably hard but the player skill is often not up to par

since the best players are all at 35-40

[tame anchor]

we just reached havoc 30

it was easy mods too, cranial+morbians

wlel and inferno

so visibilty was ass, and snipers were everywhere

[strange thunder]

yeah you don't really get the map modifiers much higher up

they're often at even 10s

[tame anchor]

i tihnk skillwise, three of us are probaly mid-20s players, one is like low 20s

so collectively, we've managed to get to 30

[strange thunder]

I only play with randoms through party finder

[tame anchor]

but i think its now becoming a hard wall cause ppl are just getting shreked

[strange thunder]

and I never host my own

[tame anchor]

its a bunch of a friends all on voice, its frankly astounding we even got o 30

[strange thunder]

you also get better playing with better players

[tame anchor]

but i honestly dont know how to beat this area oother than 'well i guess everyone just gotta get real gud'

[strange thunder]

because they know map triggers and when to fall back and such

[tame anchor]

ya, i think we were often holding up in bad areas and stuff

like in the early game hack where you are surrounded, everyone grouped up in the middel around the console

[strange thunder]

boss target prio is also key and having someone to clear hordes and specials at the same time

idk what map you're on

[tame anchor]

chasm terminus, you have that hack where you have drop down from a ledge, then theres this center thing with 3 broken shield plates around it

its like a split egg or something

and its got multi level ledges on all sides

[strange thunder]

right, you want to fall back to the stairs

that lead up

and stay there until you need to restart the hack

a lot of mid events want you to fall back to a good area on havoc

[tame anchor]

ya i noticed nobody seems to know where they are at

[strange thunder]

and not always stick around the things you need to hack

yeah you don't learn them by yourself

it's possible you're just hitting a wall in terms of progression if you're only playing with each other

[shadow skiff]

You could if used to more tactical shooters. Is a better spot for funneling.

[tame anchor]

like i said, im honestly surprised we even got to 30.

[strange thunder]

yeah I just don't think regular gameplay teaches you to learn the funnel spots

[tame anchor]

well nobody is ever pressured enough

they can just do dumb shit and run around like chickens and still not get punished enough

its that map

[strange thunder]

5 wound vet 💀

[tame anchor]

i grabbed this on wiki

but our vet was running smokes for a long time to counter shooty twin

[strange thunder]

isn't that chasm station

[tame anchor]

turns into 'terminus' i guess

but ya, its like the first level or something

[strange thunder]

chasm terminus is the overall name for that tileset

[tame anchor]

and theres that spot where you drop down this broken ledge onto a huge pile of rubble

ah

[strange thunder]

chasm logistratum is the one I thought you meant

[tame anchor]

had two wipes at the drop cause of a huge stack of bosses

[strange thunder]

which also has a drop down ledge in to hack mid event

well you can get by sticking to the middle on chasm station, but you can also fall back to respawn point

[tame anchor]

this was a point of no return once you drop down

[strange thunder]

yes I know

both maps have that

[tame anchor]

oh

[strange thunder]

chasm logistratum has an elevator that comes crashing down once you start the mid event

[tame anchor]

oh ya, that one

[strange thunder]

while chasm station is a large circular tile where you defend in the middle

[tame anchor]

that drop

[strange thunder]

that's near the end tho

[tame anchor]

ya, we had two missions wipe there from 3-4 bosses spawning in when we all landed

[strange thunder]

yeah you prob want to either go right in to that dead end there

or back left towards the respawn point

[tame anchor]

it will have more enemies, but i guess its better to have that option of picking someone up

[strange thunder]

no they won't respawn there

it's just a better area since you can't get flanked

[tame anchor]

oh

[strange thunder]

like key things about choosing where to engage is how many areas ppl can come out of

and how cramped it is

cramped can be fine if your chokepoints are separate from where you want to engage the boss

like a long hallway is not a good place to engage

but a decently sized room with two exits is better

like captains and twins are better in smaller areas

but it all depends a lot on the map you're on

you just get a feel for it eventually

[tame anchor]

do people usually just ignore the ranged twin shooting away and focus down the swrod?

[strange thunder]

yes

[tame anchor]

i feel like the fact we broguht smokes in large part to nullify that says a lot

[strange thunder]

it is prioritizing the biggest danger first

and ye smokes leave ranged twin useless

[tame anchor]

but its like bringing a hammer zealot to kill 1 boss

[strange thunder]

eh

smokes are great across the whole map tho

[tame anchor]

i think for us, its been a crutch

although maybe so are kraks

[strange thunder]

I've ran with hammer zealots as teammate very few times

like a good one is great to have, but it's def a skill expression

[tame anchor]

it was smokes + explosive boltgun vet

i ddnt look at the whole build, but guy died the most

[strange thunder]

vet can get away with a lot of options for picking off specials

[tame anchor]

thoughts on revive shout?

[strange thunder]

it's good if you can slot it

[vocal nacelle]

if you didnt play havoc for a week your rank dropped by 1

[strange thunder]

I had to drop a +25 toughness node to fit it on mine and I don't know if it's been worth it

because it's hard to time when someone goes down

unless you're saving the shout a lot

[shadow skiff]

Pretty sure better to be proactive on it so nobody goes down in the first place than use it to pick someone up.

[strange thunder]

ye and if people are not ready for it reviving them they can just get swamped again and go down/die

I'll prob swap back

[lime idol]

it's not worth

[bitter violet]

That’s the main issue with it. Hammer without a boss to kill feels kind of bad. =(

[gusty whale]

hammer always feels kind of bad imo

[bitter violet]

I love it when there’s bosses to kill and you delete them. But outside of that niche it’s pretty meh yeah. You can use the relic blade and have a decent balance between the eviscerator (my favorite weapon) and the hammer.

[cosmic lagoon]

why do people play rolling steel so much?

[bitter violet]

Mostly because it’s short.

[cosmic lagoon]

do people understand that the rewards are terrible for how much effort it takes due to there being a hard time limit?

[bitter violet]

Maybe they’re working on a penance, maybe they’re working on the campaign, maybe Quickplay put them there. Idk.

[cosmic lagoon]

because i've had so many problematic missions on rolling steel that i had to carry teammates through because they refused to do objectives/kept going down/couldn't deal with a boss

and i seem to constantly find myself quickplaying into rolling steel, which makes me think people actually select it

and i seriously don't understand the call of it. you get malice-level xp/dockets for damnation difficulty

[bitter violet]

Ive used it for a few penances. I can’t speak for other people.

[radiant roost]

It is the best level for the Ogryn Point Blank Barrage. You just melt everything.

[steep silo]

You melt everything on every map as PBB ogryn

[strange thunder]

it's nice with a short mission every now and then

[ruby sinew]

Looking to complete the “On Overwatch” penance for vet if anyone wouldn’t mind assisting DM me. 😁😁

https://tenor.com/view/krieg-warhammer40000-gif-20755773

[bitter violet]

Here’s some advice. Go to a malice expedition. Immediately extract as soon as you load in.

[ruby sinew]

Oh sweet thanks

[bitter violet]

You’ll be done in a few minutes. Just be careful when your enemies rush you during extraction. I recommend using shout.

As long as you don’t take any hp damage the penance should register.

[ruby sinew]

Ty ty

Any tips for the accuracy one?

[bitter violet]

I used the revolver in the rolling steel mission.

And didn’t pick up any ammo.

[ruby sinew]

I was just using the wrong weapon on the right mission lol

Tyty

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-salute-gif-27701630

[bitter violet]

I’d also post the malice thing in the lfg channels. Just say “doing on overwatch, malice expedition and immediately extracting.”

I’d help but I’m not home. =(

[ruby sinew]

You’re help is still greatly appreciated thank you kindly

😁

[bitter violet]

Penance hunting is my speciality. >_>

It’s my main activity in the game.

[cosmic lagoon]

do you know how to do the relay station penance with the fan?

[ruby sinew]

Then perhaps you can assist me later with some more 👀

[cosmic lagoon]

only press 1 button and push enemies in? which button needs pressed?

[bitter violet]

Is that the big vertical fan part with the batteries?

[cosmic lagoon]

yeah

[bitter violet]

Right so after you slot the batteries in, you hit the switches to stop it. You have to lure the enemies over to the still spinning fan without hitting the buttons to stop it.

And here’s the worst part, even if you do it correctly the penance pops up at the end of the mission.

[ruby sinew]

I do hate that 😭

[bitter violet]

So you have to lure them over and push a bunch in and if you lose count, better hope you did it correctly. ;/

[bitter violet]

I don’t mind.

[ruby sinew]

You’re the bestest

[bitter violet]

[ruby sinew]

I just got it!

Tyty

[bitter violet]

On Overwatch?

[ruby sinew]

Yup!

First try

[bitter violet]

Yeah expeditions make it absurdly easy.

I got it on rolling steel on heresy difficulty. @-@

[ruby sinew]

Yea back in the day its was so much different 🫩

[bitter violet]

I got the accuracy one on the same run with the revolver. By the time I reached the second disarm minigame I realized I hadn’t taken any melee damage and locked in.

It was intense but worth it.

[ruby sinew]

That’s actually pretty sweet

Wish me luck imma try and get that one done now

[bitter violet]

Just pick your shots and remember not to pick up any ammo.

And then melee only for the rest.

[ruby sinew]

I tried with the plas

Didn’t work

The bolt pistol

Nope

I tend to try and just dump ammo on the boss

[bitter violet]

I think it’s because they cleave through enemies and don’t work properly.

[ruby sinew]

Perhaps

[bitter violet]

Just use the revolver and pick your shots on the way to the boss.

[ruby sinew]

Will do ty

[steep silo]

It pops at the end of the mission now? yikes

[bitter violet]

Aim center mass and don’t worry so much about headshots. Your goal is accuracy, not kills.

[bitter violet]

It did when I got it yeah.

And that was a few months ago.

[steep silo]

When I did it a year(?) ago or so it popped immediately

FS being awesome as always

[bitter violet]

Maybe it was different then idk. But it absolutely did not pop until the mission was over.

I am absolutely 100% certain.

[cosmic lagoon]

you can probably bookmark it and see how it's progressing

[bitter violet]

True.

I didn’t have a chance to book mark it when I did it our Ogryn was like “hey let’s get this penance” and we were all like “sure.” XD

[ruby sinew]

🫡

[balmy moat]

no it shows up live

experienced as of yesterday

[bitter violet]

It didn’t pop up until the end of the mission for me when I did it a few months ago.

It’s probably fixed now in which case even better.

[cosmic lagoon]

penances do seem to be more consistently popping whenever you actually do them

[ruby sinew]

Once I get these imma try and do the havoc missions for the armor 🫩😭

[cosmic lagoon]

i think i remember getting most if not all penances at the end of the mission

[cosmic lagoon]

pain and suffering await you

[ruby sinew]

I can only imagine

Is the power falchion any good?

[steep silo]

It's okayish, nothing amazing about it

[ruby sinew]

It’s kinda hard to do this accuracy with randoms 🙄😭

[cosmic lagoon]

activated power falchion reaches maybe waist height to combat axe. unactivated falchion is bad. damnation+ difficulty and even activated starts struggling

[ruby sinew]

I shall stick to my devil claw

[bitter violet]

Power sword, dueling sword, and combat blade are the best vet melee atm iirc

[ruby sinew]

Sweet ty

I got the accuracy

With a shotgun

Thank the emperor

[karmic sandal]

Is there a way to reduce the screen disorienting effects?

Pox gas + Stealth + Stim Gas +Choir was blinding

[steep silo]

You can turn off desired screen effects with mods but don't think you can in vanilla (?)

[pastel forge]

mods

[gritty harness]

fatshark wants u to die so they dont have any settings to do this

you have to download sum mods

[sweet swallow]

how many times can I consecrate a curios?

oh wait nevermind i meant empower, i can't empower them nvm

[strange thunder]

ye they're stuck at what they're obtained at

which is why they're usually such a pain

needlessly so, but at least there's no other good thing to spend all your melk bucks on so

[sweet swallow]

does them being level 500 do anything?

im guessing it's higher stats?

[strange thunder]

410 is generally the highest you need for them to be able to have their highest stat possible

430 is max obtainable

[sweet swallow]

oh okay

[strange thunder]

and don't spend too much before you're lvl 30 on a character, since you can't get that good ones

but the range at which you get them from melk is p wide

this being the random curios option that is

the ones in the "good" shop are usually trash

[sick arch]

Is there an easy way to get “make every shot count” veteran penance. The penance requires you end the match with 0 ammo and 90 percent accuracy.

I had read that you can unload all of your ammo except for one bullet and then alt F4 and land the one shot and finish with melee but i tried it three times and the penance didnt unkock

[bold stump]

Hi everyone, new to the game, what perk do u guys use on ur weapons

[steep silo]

You can just use a shotgun since it should count towards accuracy even if just one pellet hits

[balmy moat]

depends what it is and what its for

generally, the safe bet is flak and maniac

theres several cases where different perks would fit better, but those are the two most common armour types you'll be against

[sick arch]

Do i need to alt f4 ? Am i reloading in too fast?

[steep silo]

Why would you need to alt F4?

[sick arch]

I think you do near the end so the shot is more likely to have 90 prrcdnt accuracy

[balmy moat]

just use a doublebarrel, its strong and easy to just, fire into hordes, mutants, etc

[sick arch]

Ok

[steep silo]

Just shoot at things until out of ammo then finish with melee, or just use ammo sparingly throughout the mission

[balmy moat]

i dont think the relog works anymore

based on your experience

[sick arch]

Is there a specific mission thats best i was trying chasm terminus. Can you do it on the expedition level and evac

[balmy moat]

especially since scoreboard mod wont break, and will still calculate your accuracy from teammates perspective

you could do it on exped, yeah

its apparently extremely good for cheesing several penances

[steep silo]

yup

[sick arch]

I just started on the veteran penances but thank you for the advice on this one

[balmy moat]

exped, the mortar rounds, work for long bomb as well last i saw

was a funny penance earn for a friend who didnt even know they didnt have it yet

[steep silo]

Any mission works tbh, just need to fire all your ammo and complete mission lol

[steep silo]

Of course it does

Remember losing my mind trying to get that one

[eager flame]

I recommend the revolver due to ammo pool. Don't take ammo regen aura and don't pick up ammo. Fire into hordes to help prevent other players from stealing kills or aim at bosses with more than 25% HP. This achievement was buggy in the past using some shotgun variants. Pretty sure you have to finish the map for achievement to count.

[ruby sinew]

I used the double barrel shotgun on rolling steel and got it my first try

With randoms

[sick arch]

Ok i will try . I guess its just spray and pray

[ruby sinew]

No no

[bitter violet]

That's a bad idea. It needs near perfect accuracy.

[ruby sinew]

Shoot at tanky or ones in your face

[bitter violet]

Some folks recommend the shotgun, I preferred the revolver for that.

[tame anchor]

pretty helpful to see what the heck is going on in a crowd

[sick arch]

Thanks to all for the rexommendatjons for make every shot count . Ibwas able to accomplish

[leaden turret]

needs some help. MY game just freezes 1 frame for like 3 seconds, why?

It started this week.

Im on a 5080 with liike 270 frames

[vocal nacelle]

Either cache still loading or revert to previous gpu driver version

[cunning sail]

I'm pretty sure I've completed this campaign before why are they locked up?

[strange thunder]

it's character dependant

[cunning sail]

eww

[muted pumice]

If being staggered reduces an enemy's "effective hit mass" (e.g. "50% reduced while in heavy stagger"), does that mean that weapons with strong stagger innately also then cleave better due to that?

[dapper shard]

That may depend on cleave value attached to attacks of that weapon - because attacks with strong stagger sometimes have very low cleave - but it’s true in some cases, and for other attacks of the weapon that may have better cleave value

Say, if an enemy has a mass of 10, and your attack has 4 cleave value, that enemy being in heavy stagger state/animation will not matter, since the attack cannot cleave said enemy even if they are bottoms down.

[muted pumice]

Should the interpretation then be: Let's say I have a weapon with strong stagger, and bad cleave innately. Is increasing the cleave not as important as at first glance, since the hit mass reduction applied through stagger will, in practice, increase our effective cleave?

[dapper shard]

It may matter still, but I do not remember all the damage profiles off the top of my head to come up with a good example from the get-go. Cleave can be important still, since the more enemies you can hit, the more of them you can also stagger; and if the weapon has decent cleave damage fall-off attacked to it, then all the better (as in, it doesn’t lose that much damage past hitting the first target with each consecutive enemy hit in one attack)

I think a good example of this may be Crusher

But then it doesn’t really have all that bad cleave values on its H2/L1 attacks, despite having good impact

[muted pumice]

Speaking of staggering crushers, here's some numbers that I don't understand:

Strikedown Body with Impact 20 -- Staggers on first hit
Pretty sure 20 Impact is the threshold for crushers then, anything above works, anything below doesn't seem to.

Relentless Weakspot spam with [7+7+19+19+7+7+19(+19)] Impact -- Staggers on seventh or eighth hit
A Weakspot Crit with this weapon is 20 Impact on the 3rd/4thmove, however that isn't why the stagger occurs afaict. Weirdly if the first attack is the Weakspot Crit with 20 Impact, it does NOT stagger - not sure why that is. Probably some rounding error.
What's going on here? Is there some meter that's filling? If that's the case then the decay must be really high, because we do almost 5x the 20 Impact from earlier.

Special Punch Weakspot with Impact 8 + Stagger Reduction bypass -- Staggers on first hit
So the Stagger Reduction is raising the threshold from <=8 up to 20, I guess?

[smoky ember]

no, the reduced hitmass only applies once the enemy is staggered

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[muted pumice]

oh ty

[eager flame]

New campaign. New voice lines. You have to do it for each character. It does not save progress from one to the other.

[dense tulip]

You don't have to do it for all characters, but I don't rember the condition that lets you skip the campaing for newly made characters

getting to level 30 on at least one character?

[safe lichen]

When team wipes in a havoc corridor early in the map -- rotten crushers on one end, twins on the other end, & a trapper.

[bitter violet]

Apparently the bots really don’t like to get people back up.

Very annoying.

[safe lichen]

Is there some kind of bug where -- can't use grenades, can't use stims?

& not a keyboard problem, since I can hotswap weapons & reload just fine.

[dense tulip]

Is it constant or does it just happen for a few moments and goes away?

[safe lichen]

Was the entire match.

[harsh birch]

Hey all, am curious. Is there a way to change the game's audio? As in, for example. I'd like to switch from English to Japanese VA.

[vocal nacelle]

its english only from what i remember

there's no jp VA

[keen flume]

I don't think there's any other language dubs

Game is exclusively English only

But there's few languages subtitles

[strange thunder]

feels too VA heavy for the size of the game to have dubs in multiple languages

[keen flume]

To be honest yeah

[vocal nacelle]

200gb

[strange thunder]

not the filesize

[balmy moat]

completing the campaign on one character, then ypu can skip campaign on new characters at the start, or go to krall and spend 50k ordo on a personality scourge to skipp campaign on existing characters.

however, i think road to nomansland is different, because fatshark

[slow bobcat]

Hi. Why do I see some players' Havoc Mode cleansing level instead of their personal level?
I want the same)

[strange thunder]

because once you hit 30 there's nothing else to see and it shows the havoc rank instead

since you can't do havoc if you're below 30 and if you have a havoc rank since before (on another character, havoc ranks are shared across your characters) you hit 30 it will show that once you do

[rotund ermine]

Need to double check something

Did anyone gave feedback to improve the Dead Siders Sanctuary such as more NPCs either chatting or directly talking to us, more options to do some side tasks for them or even maybe minor things like they have a jukebox that can play around with in the location?

[slow bobcat]

I have already cleared the 31 clearance lvl, but my lvl has not changed(

[shadow skiff]

Within this season? Or was it last?

They get reset every 3~ months because Fatshark.

[slow bobcat]

aaah, this thing has a seasons...

understand, ty very much!

[vocal nacelle]

Big update havoc rank resets

[little coyote]

not a fan, I'd like to be able to run 40s if I've reached it

[shadow skiff]

Basically complained by everyone who hit 40 before. Wastes like 5-7 hours getting back everytime.

[little coyote]

I'd be fine if it just dropped me to 35 so I could keep attempting the true survivor penance without a fuss but now I gotta grind 5 levels to reach it first

[shadow skiff]

It's because "engagement". Like the playerbase is already dead because the game runs like dook on 70% of systems.

[little coyote]

I don't really think that's it because barely a fraction of player base really runs havocs

[shadow skiff]

Yes, but if the game runs like ass, 1% of 5000 players is less than 1% of 60k players.

[safe lichen]

Is just joining a havoc squad, & getting an error code, a un/common thing?

nvm whole game just hard crashed

tf

[strange thunder]

havoc has had more errors than normal games for me

[bitter violet]

Do you use mods?

[safe lichen]

Totally vanilla game.

[eager flame]

Since the last patch I would say that error codes have become more common although you may want to try lowering settings for Havoc in the event of a CPU/GPU bottleneck in the higher density environment it presents depending on your setup. That said, server desync seems to have become more frequent in Havoc in particular of late.

[strange thunder]

yeah it's bad rn

[balmy moat]

happens a lot in exped as well funnily enough

[safe lichen]

Though, I was still on the mourningstar -- or rather, the havoc terminal, when we got a full havoc squad. Haven't even played.

[strange thunder]

I've gotten full crashes from havoc lobbies

[safe lichen]

So it is a thing. How annoying.

I can understand crashes in-game -- but the lobby, that's just ridiculous.

[lean urchin]

hello, is there a mod that silences the loading screen chatter?

[clear plume]

"Zip it"

[eager flame]

Be careful how many requests to join you put out at a time with Party Finder. I think I hard crashed once when I had 3-4 join requests out and the game crashed as one (or several) responded. I found the hub less stable than in-mission for some time until I disabled portrait UI in settings. Supposedly a memory leak related to rendering character models in portraits/frames with Nvidia cards. I heard it was fixed but I still have less issues in the hub with it off. Settings --> Interface --> Enable Portrait Rendering --> Off This will not fully optimize the game but may be useful nevertheless.

[safe lichen]

For my crash though, I wasn't the havoc host.

[unreal garnet]

Yo guys im getting a fatal error saying that my plugins are failing?

Any help?

[strange thunder]

modded or base game?

[unreal garnet]

Base

[strange thunder]

like is it a normal crash message after or?

[unreal garnet]

Wdym

[strange thunder]

does the game crash or you can't start it at all?

[unreal garnet]

Its saying cjson is not loading

Crashes my game

[strange thunder]

have you tried verifying game files through steam?

[unreal garnet]

I did it once

Im doing it again as we speak

[strange thunder]

actually this guy had the same issue and might've solved it #general-chat message

windows 11 moment

[unreal garnet]

🫩

So i gotta keep my windows smart apps off for now on?

[strange thunder]

I don't know, I don't have 11

[unreal garnet]

O

[cosmic lagoon]

what's the best way to get massive amounts of plasteel in relatively short time?

[balmy moat]

aurics/damnations

for havoc cache youll have to wait a week for it

[cosmic lagoon]

so basically what i've aready been doing... frick

[vocal nacelle]

QP damnation, 1K per run

[tame anchor]

other than running and dashing very fast, does rhinda fight differently than sword captain?

[dapper shard]

She doesn't have one type of attack the regular captain has (a single attack; she always attacks with either a sweep or a combination of three attacks), and her sweep doesn't deal reduced damage to non-main targets.

[tame anchor]

so its either AOE or combo

and the sweep can just kill everyone not paying attention trying to gank her

thats explains a lot

ive noticed that even dropping meds - a lot of the time we get pushed off the area

[cosmic lagoon]

no gun

[tame anchor]

just guns\

[cosmic lagoon]

rinda is no gun, rodin is only gun

or, wait

rodin is gun and bombs. cheater

[tame anchor]

but sword captain seem to be no issue- and ppl just get wrecked by twins

i dunno if she attacks faster or something and they just dont have the timings right

[cosmic lagoon]

2 different health bars, 2 different bosses, shooting and melee at once

rinda also has the dash which i don't think the sword captain does

it's a sword captain, though, so lots of damage anyway

i see people get wrecked on rodin's shots more than rinda's sword, and sword captains are also problems for my teams

[little coyote]

Rinda only using the combo and AOE doesn't leave as much free estate to maneuver and get free hits in, though afaik the sword captain has a hard limit on how much damage he can take before reactivating the shields where as the randomly named sword lieutenant can be burst damaged to death in a single shield burst

[cosmic lagoon]

captains can get bursted down immediately, so long it's a single hit

e.g. knife/hammer zealots or shiv HS

[tame anchor]

sword captain usually cant bully a bad situation the way twins can

its hard to clutch with twins around since they just run you down

[little coyote]

Right yeah the cap has a limit on which after he activates the shield but a single hit can bypass it, lieutenants can be repeatedly hit until death more easily

[cosmic lagoon]

i would assume it's a combination of sword captains being strong because of sword and rodin's gun being a surprising issue

[cosmic lagoon]

lieutenants, you mean twins?

[little coyote]

yes

[cosmic lagoon]

yeah okay i was getting confused

[tame anchor]

cap takes a long time to kill because you just keep popping the shield over and over unless you have a gank zealot

[cosmic lagoon]

they don't reactivate shields ever so it's pretty easy to burst them down, but the fact one person can have both rinda and rodin on them means dodges just don't suffice

[tame anchor]

twins reactivate shields

[little coyote]

yeah they do reactivate but it's pretty slow to do so

[cosmic lagoon]

am i just that good?

i've never had it happen to where i remember it

[strange thunder]

twins shield are timer based

not damage gated based

so you can one cycle twins

while captains are up to like 5-6? cycles

idr

[tame anchor]

ya its annoying as shit

[strange thunder]

you can get them in a stunlock state p fast tho by just repeatedly going for the shield with 2 or 3 players with fast melee

since shield can reactivate while they're still getting up from a full stagger

rodin also has a lower stagger threshold than rinda while shield is down, so you can throw him to the ground with relative ease

[tame anchor]

captain fights never seem to spiral the tway twins fights do when they arrive

if a horde shows up or if someone dies unexpectedly, and you dont have the damage to keep up, its hard to recover

at least in none of my games have i seen a good enough palyer clutch solo twins

[little coyote]

I've had havoc runs where the horde is all focused on my teammates and both twins are on me and I've managed that just fine as Scum, but it's not true solo of course when the horde isn't there to bother me

[tame anchor]

last game was H21 - evreyone got cocky I guess and we had a bunch of off meta ogryns. Ppl got split up, was pretty apparent that some ppl werent actually ready for it

Twins spawned early on chasm station when you drop into that cave area before the hack event, and i had both of them chasing me, I was able to stall a bit and pop the shields - but i couldnt do anything with al lthe other enemies there too

Another game, H28 - 3 of us alive. Everyone was suppose to be pretty good (clearance 30-40). Twins spawn in and one person die like immediately

Another get backed into a corner and downed, eventually I try to truck it to the respawn point to revive as ogryn, and a chaos spawn pops outa nowhere and its GG

And other times they spawn in and either because it was beginning of the level and literally nobody else is around, or they approach in such a way where everyone dunk on rhinda that you wonder what the big fuss is even about

[charred bloom]

Whats the fastest way to level a new character to max

[balmy moat]

private game orthus offensive spam. hit bell skip, die inside the arena

[jagged dagger]

i own both hive scum and arbites but them game keeps telling me to get the addon is this a bug?

[strange thunder]

yes

unsure what triggers it

[vocal nacelle]

Relaunch steam probably

Or restart console

[wheat night]

You can deactivate your DLC. Make sure they are enabled in you library

[jagged dagger]

alrighty thanks

[full zephyr]

Yo the heck is going with Darktide?

Rando ahh crash

[full zephyr]

Also after verify the files it still crashed gg

[vocal nacelle]

feels like windows 11 issue

it is LMAO

[full zephyr]

Oh rip me again ree

😭

The faah is Window 11 doing that sort of sheit man

[shadow skiff]

It's big brother watching over you OS.

[vocal nacelle]

just disable that thing

[full zephyr]

How to?

[vocal nacelle]

dunno, i dont have win 11

[full zephyr]

I'm cooked randomly

😭

[gritty harness]

look it up brah

ts DARKTIDE we dont hold hands here

[full zephyr]

It just to me to either restart my PC on window or dug into window files and shut if off manually (the manually part I have no idea how and I'm afraid it will kill my PC)

[safe lichen]

ok, how the fuck does deploying an ammo crate, send me back to the fucking mourningstar?

[strange thunder]

correlation ≠ causation

[safe lichen]

There goes a fucking havoc.

Not even an error code.

[full zephyr]

Noooo....

😭

Time to quit Darktide then?

[restive jewel]

my game is insta crashing on startup what happened

disabled smart app control wtf is even that

[stone epoch]

hi, bowth voice chat and text chat died, cant write or see what other write or hear others, any ideas how 2 fix it?

[restive jewel]

if you are on windows, just disable smart app control

[stone epoch]

it worked b4

windows new feature?

[restive jewel]

no clue just had similar crashes and I disabled smart app control because it blocked certain parts of code using in darktide or mods suddenly

[stone epoch]

i have no mods tho

[restive jewel]

finished my first actual havoc 40

holy fuck

[static wyvern]

where do I go to learn more about havoc?

I hit havoc 16 now thanks to the help of a few people with auric maelstrom but wondering whats the next step

especially when it comes to learning team comps

and what the f I should be doing lol

[balmy moat]

class chats, especially og or psyker chats are a good point. a lot of trial and error, but a lot of learning the specifics of what your build(s) do(es), what its for, and what is needed (boss dps, crowd control, special hunting, tank, etc). havoc has a lot of intricasies, and a lot of questions only come up as such events unfold.

learn where respawn poits are, when to push, when to pull back, ammo/grenade/healing priority, positioning, etc, some can be taught but a lot comes down to practice, because sometimes you wont have time to think and plan, youll just have to react and move

[vocal nacelle]

what do you want to learn

[sick arch]

Is clandestine gloriana the only map in the void zone? Is the play 50 void zone map penance really just doing gloriana repeatedly ?

[zealous dome]

I'm pretty sure train counts too

And if that doesn't count then it's just Gloriana

[eager flame]

Yes. Clandestine Gloriana was the first and so far only map in the Void Sector. You may want to wait for another to grind that penance or mix it up with a few other penances between runs.

[eager flame]

Havoc 1-10 is just Malice. Havoc 11-20 is Heresy. Havoc 21-30 is Damnation/Auric but more so. Until you get to 25+ you really don't need to fixate on builds but think about team synergy with whatever you bring to Havoc as a rule or how to counter some of the modifiers found in Havoc. Safest class to learn Havoc is Zealot due to the 1 HP protect/regen talents. Gold toughness is very good in Havoc for staying alive when you should be dead. Learning how to kite and solo boss attack patterns will also serve you well.

[static wyvern]

yea I got to 20 now with some experienced people and it felt pretty easy in general was fun, also already noticed how much the zealot does from the people that were with me

I will see about learning bosses cause the chaos spawn I still have no idea if I am dodging or not it feels like its hitboxes are just all over the place

[safe lichen]

Extract a havoc --

Error code during cutscene

You got to be fucking kidding me.

[eager flame]

The rapid hits of Chaos Spawn are better to block than dodge even if you dodge some of the hits. He will hit up to 4 times in a row depending on the combo. For the grab backdash or you can attempt to dodge to the right through the arm if you are too close for the backdash to save you. The hurtboxes on the grab are fewer near the arm that grabs you.

[static wyvern]

thanks for the info!

[nocturne orchid]

hey guys how would you counter this (jokingly)

[eager flame]

You activate Zealot Chorus as the door opens and the cutscene plays. The chorus pulses continue through the cutscene so you will all have gold toughness as the poxbursters dive onto you. Had my friend do that on a True Survivor run in the event that happened to us. It is rare though so depending on the circumstance you can just eat the hit since there is a med station in the room immediately before.

[sick arch]

Thank you

[balmy moat]

i would count this under, never stand in front of the door, anywhere

not here, not at silo, not at gloriana tram, etc etc

[pulsar pilot]

Wish they'd let us skip those cutscenes.

[balmy moat]

its also possible to die during the end of dark communion cutscene

yey fatshark

[shadow skiff]

You can even wipe in it from memory.

[split vortex]

Heya I've been playing veteran for a minute and I've come to the realization that they aren't really fun atm because I do not possess the right mindset for the class.
I was going to flop over and try orgyn or zealot to learn the game more and not be considerably miserable doing it.
Which would you guys suggest? Ogryn or zealot?

I understand melee is a huge part of the game and ik each class brings something different to the table but being relatively melee focused

[vocal nacelle]

zealot is more friendly for new player

lots of safety net

[steel iris]

Zealot is low skill floor high ceiling , Ogryn is low floor medium-ish ceiling.
Ogryn can be fun but is fairly slow and most of his weapons are kinda bad IMO.

But also, I can sympathize with not enjoying vet , I loathed it until I went melee heavy / stealth with combat knife , the mobility and bleed stacks and the knife is just so good

[balmy moat]

same but with helbore exestance for me

[steel iris]

Combat knife vet can dance around enemies with ease and take out crushers with no prob

Helbore is good and I've seen many use it to great efficacy but It just doesn't vibe with me , wish we could slap optics on it or sumt

The fact the infantry rifle las gets a holo but the helbore only gets iron sights feels a little wonky

[simple wigeon]

I'm not sure I understand blessings, it seems they are not redistributable like my class talents? Also, I can't just put all points in one skill, it seems locked after the first time. Do I have to level them all up at the same time?

[steel iris]

Masteries

Use weapon more , higher mastery level , you can then level up the blessings (up to level 4)

[balmy moat]

they are not autoapplied. you unlock tiers of them to then be able to put them on weapons

[steel iris]

Also what he said , you need to go to hadron to refine them

Big orange area in one of the corners of the mourningstar

Go right after loading in