gameplay-help

[wheat karma]

not good at everything, good enough to deal with everything though

[fresh ocean]

you must learn the optimal way to use a weapon so what

[strange thunder]

most melees are good enough to deal with everything

[wheat karma]

again thats not the issue. its everything should be able to kill everything sooner or later

[fresh ocean]

you say you DID learn the weapon but then say you only have 100 hours

[strange thunder]

no

[fresh ocean]

you clearly have some faults in what you are saying

[wheat karma]

that was the example

you miss read that

[fresh ocean]

okay so you just arent using things right

[little coyote]

if you have a melee weapon that lacks in carapace damage, then you should bring a ranged weapon or other utilities that can handle it, simple as

[wheat karma]

i am. ive given everything a few hours of testing

[wheat karma]

sometimes thats not an option, and fun fact

[fresh ocean]

100 hours is not enough

[wheat karma]

most ranged guns also do

zero dmg to them

[strange thunder]

yes because you shouldn't shoot armor

[little coyote]

as they should, no autopistol should be able to magdump a crusher out of your way

[wheat karma]

some guns should go through

alot more than we have that do

[strange thunder]

guns are secondary weapons

[wheat karma]

it should still hurt them

[strange thunder]

melee are primary

[wheat karma]

depends on the class

[fresh ocean]

yeah the melee is the primary

[strange thunder]

no it's literally the game telling you that

1 slot is melee

[fresh ocean]

im sure if you give the game more time you will see carapace isn't that hard

[wheat karma]

playstyle and class. gun grin, shotty arby, just hivescum as a whole alot of the time xd

[wheat karma]

i have what most would say

[balmy moat]

carapace is annoying but not a problem. source:

[wheat karma]

to many hours

[wheat karma]

a problem for most people it is

[fresh ocean]

also source

[wheat karma]

lower there health back down

or lower the dmg reduction from 100% to like 80% capped

simple as

[balmy moat]

bring back rotten armour

[little coyote]

it would make them too easy again

[vocal nacelle]

doesnt work that way

[balmy moat]

old rotten armour

[wheat karma]

i c k

[balmy moat]

youll know what pain is

[wheat karma]

do NOT do that

[wheat karma]

it does actually

the base armor class can be changed stat wise

it 100% can be done

[fresh ocean]

also i don't think this games intention is to be super casual so making things easier would not be fun

[wheat karma]

its not, no

[fresh ocean]

or idk play a low difficulty

[wheat karma]

but the super casual is not the issue

since crushers dont exist in such waves until damnation or auric at least

[strange thunder]

I actually had fun with the original event

[wheat karma]

dark souls player xd

[strange thunder]

I skipped the seasons in havoc where it was

[vocal nacelle]

i like the old one more than the recent one

[fresh ocean]

how were they different btw? i wasn't here for the old one

[balmy moat]

same

[little coyote]

Old rotten armour didn't degrade when you did damage to it

[strange thunder]

like my main takeaway from the original event was that I thought the rot after you killed them did no dmg

[fresh ocean]

yeah idk carapace could be better not sure how but its not really an issue

[strange thunder]

not that the armor spam was bad

[fresh ocean]

unless we think more weapons should do better against carapace then maybe but its not a big issue

[strange thunder]

most ppl think more weapons are guns

which is telling

[wheat karma]

it think, along side the hp increase, and the spawn cap of them coming in waves. made them harder than intended in normal games

[fresh ocean]

yes lets mag dump the big ogryn with plated armor and expect instant death

[wheat karma]

the bolter should, the plasma gun should

the flamer should do more

[strange thunder]

that's only a last resort on bolter, and even then it's barely effective

stop shooting armor

[wheat karma]

my 7.62 ARs 100% should get through after 30 rounds to the head

[strange thunder]

that's not what FS wants

they want you to stop shooting armor

[wheat karma]

thats what alot of people want

xd

[strange thunder]

but they are wrong

[little coyote]

"a lot" and it's Mr E and his ilk

[wheat karma]

they fixed it in vermintide after like 6 years

they can do the same here

[fresh ocean]

how many hours do you have in vermintide?

[wheat karma]

verm? maybe like 2-3k combined

[strange thunder]

I have no hours in vermintides and aren't interested in what they did

[fresh ocean]

isnt ammo more sparce?

[strange thunder]

because I play darktide and this is fine as is

[wheat karma]

but it is a close reference in how they sooner or later fixed the same issue thats in darktide

its a valid point

[wheat karma]

higher up it gets alot worse, let alone havoc yes

[fresh ocean]

i mean doesn't vermintide give less ammo

so it makes sense

[wheat karma]

both games do

[strange thunder]

auric isn't really a problem for ammo

[wheat karma]

when you go up to were these enemys were issue's

[strange thunder]

it's just havoc

[little coyote]

And even in havoc you can work around that

[strange thunder]

yes and you should

[wheat karma]

then nerf the crushers outside of havoc if you want it like that. they made that mode for the 5% anyways

[fresh ocean]

to be honest my only issue with the balance of the game is players aren't that good and so things are way harder that way

[wheat karma]

xd

maybe its not the players

[little coyote]

yes the game shouldn't be balanced based on Havoc, nor is it. But the normal experience is very much in a healthy state at the moment

[fresh ocean]

a good amount of players are just bad so

[wheat karma]

minus some weapon balance and crushers its great

[strange thunder]

I mean, how do you explain the experienced players that think auric maelstrom is too chill?

[fresh ocean]

people are overconfident and try to force themselves into harder stuff and expect to just win without learning

[wheat karma]

jobless perhaps

[fresh ocean]

such as not learning your weapons

which 3 hours on a weapon is not a learned weapon

[strange thunder]

ok so then it is a matter of skill?

[wheat karma]

5 hours on a weapon? is plenty of time to learn how it can and cannot be used xd

[fresh ocean]

so tell me your process then

[strange thunder]

tbf the game doesn't teaches you that well

[fresh ocean]

are you just going into a mission and using it?

did you use the right perks and blessings?

[wheat karma]

normally get a guide. make a loadout around it

and use it in most mission types for a few hours

[fresh ocean]

see thats not learning

thats trusting a build

maybe learning if the build is good

[wheat karma]

most of the time its the same xd

like zealot has like 2 good settups for pure melee

[fresh ocean]

so like if i told you to give me a weapons optimal combo you could?

[wheat karma]

a weapon combo?

most likely

[fresh ocean]

oof

and you are certain they are the best combos?

cause its kind of hard to do that without the meat grinder and seeing damage

[wheat karma]

the best? probably not. Im no god at the game. but i've been around long enough and played enough to toss my word around with meaning

[wheat karma]

thats why i hate the hp increase

thunder hammer cant 1 tap them

makes me mad

[strange thunder]

wdym can't

[fresh ocean]

i thought it could?

[balmy moat]

it can

[strange thunder]

zealot has like the easiest time with getting enough buffs to onetap crushers

[balmy moat]

not rotten armour h40 crushers, but it can onshot normal ones lmao

[fresh ocean]

yeah i doubt they are in havoc

think they were talking about auric

[strange thunder]

but like loading up a fresh psyk and trying to oneshot a crusher might not work

[fresh ocean]

yeah when i was 100 hours in weapons felt bad because i wasn't using the best setup for them

[strange thunder]

but that's usually not a situation you're in in a normal game

[wheat karma]

alot of the time with max martyer you cannot

and thats auric, let alone what buffs they get into in havoc

[fresh ocean]

i mean is two hits with the thunder hammer even bad?

but you would build it right to 1 hit

[wheat karma]

2 hits is bad when there are 10

sadly i cant hurt myself in the meat grinder

but like

at base, you cannot

and i can test again real soon. that at 1hp you still cant

[fresh ocean]

but its not like they keep spawning in auric

you just have to deal with a set group and you are fine

[balmy moat]

any basic zealot tree with thrust on thammer is plenty iirc

you have to have a HORRIBLE tree

to not work

[fresh ocean]

to one hit though?

[wheat karma]

xd

[fresh ocean]

I mean 2 hits is really not that much and you have 3 other players

[wheat karma]

under perfect test conditions

almost can

[fresh ocean]

okay so just tap it once again

are you charging long enough?

[vocal nacelle]

def can one tap on normal auric mission

[wheat karma]

but in no way can i do this while its after me, and there is 10 of them

[wheat karma]

with one wound down yes. but

thats if

you back stab, no stamina, and dont get killed while swinging

[paper zenith]

Are you using the shroud field when you attack?

[wheat karma]

thats from the front

[wheat karma]

of course you can with stealth. not the issue

but you can only use it to one

not all 9 at once

[fresh ocean]

you dont need to 1 tap all 9

just be patient and take your time killing them

[wheat karma]

spending 3 minutes on one wave of enemies is part of what makes it so bad

[fresh ocean]

trust me it sounds like a player skill issue because most players aren't that great

[wheat karma]

takes my mission time from a crisp 20 minutes when this stuff happens. or it leads to the team wipe becuase nobody else can handle them either

[fresh ocean]

a lot of people use bad builds or just don't do as much damage as they should

[wheat karma]

it takes 9 seconds to do that to 1 crusher under TEST conditions

your takes of people are bad, are not good enough to agrue against what i've layed out

i have no more to add

[fresh ocean]

I explained most people are lacking in dps which when you get a bunch of enemies really hits

it would take like 50 seconds to kill 10 crushers on your own

[keen delta]

dude I dont like zealot but that just plain false this is rage baiting

[fresh ocean]

but thats if you aren't using your build right

get some damage taken and you 1 shot them which is like 25 seconds on your own

[wheat karma]

2 to run out of stam, 2 to charge, 2 to move

it checks out alot of the time

[keen delta]

you can one or 2 shots crushers

[fresh ocean]

let me trim this crusher kill and see what the time is

[keen delta]

dude its literally 1 second

XD

[fresh ocean]

its 4.13 seconds to 2 tap a crusher

[wheat karma]

amazing, now add some for human error, and double it to account for the extra mobs. and then roll the 1/3 if it hits the target or not or some random group of lil shits

[keen delta]

then you are not playing correctly

[wheat karma]

i 100% am

[keen delta]

if you are behind them you one shot them 1 second charged attack with charged up thunder hammer like what is this

[fresh ocean]

sounds like a skill issue then

probably from the whole team most likely but

[keen delta]

no no a zealot if playing correctly with boss deletion build will one shot crushers mostly

and oneshot all bosses

[wheat karma]

when there all after you, its a weee bit harder to get behind them

[fresh ocean]

i mean its a one shot with enough martyr so

[keen delta]

shroud field ?

[fresh ocean]

btw how did you take damage in there?

[keen delta]

flank em ?

[wheat karma]

god thats alot of mods

[keen delta]

creature spawner

[wheat karma]

works once

[balmy moat]

i shot a burster, since creature spawner is bugged

fast cooldown, and increase backstab lingering effect

[fresh ocean]

yeah its crashing my game lol

[balmy moat]

so, null and void argument for auric

[wheat karma]

true, and now you want other people to survive at the infamous 1 wound to get use from it.

[fresh ocean]

well it aint that hard

[balmy moat]

that is how marty works, yes

[keen delta]

its invisibility that crashes the game

[balmy moat]

you can also oneshot an auric DH with like 3 wounds

[keen delta]

skill issue

[fresh ocean]

I love doing that just for the fun of it

[balmy moat]

you can also

[keen delta]

you can one shot havoc 40 bosses

[keen flume]

https://tenor.com/view/the-sopranos-paulie-gualtieri-walnuts-ok-hands-up-gif-16730865

Mister E video, discussion completely invalid

[wheat karma]

yea

[balmy moat]

11s cooldown also isnt that bad

[keen flume]

just give a little poke lol

[wheat karma]

thats my whole goal whenever i play zeal

[fresh ocean]

yeah when your opinion is from mister e video then idk man

[balmy moat]

you could do this in h40 just fine

[fresh ocean]

you need to play a little more

[wheat karma]

baller music choice

[wheat karma]

not the opinion. just googled it. it was the first pick xd

well, it is the opinion that carapace is an issue

[keen delta]

yeah he is jsut rage baiting

[fresh ocean]

okay could it be a slight issue yeah

[keen delta]

carapace is not the issue carapace spam is an issue

[fresh ocean]

is it a big issue? nope

[wheat karma]

hv40 is again no issue. your lossing the plot here

its for more normal players and groups getting stopped by this issue. that has a simple fix behind it

[balmy moat]

literally just put this on your hammer, and youll have a decent weapon

[fresh ocean]

you are expected to learn how to deal with them

[wheat karma]

xd

[balmy moat]

have fun

seriously go have fun

[wheat karma]

little off mine, but close enough

[balmy moat]

2 tap 1level of thrust,

fast ttk on crushers

[fresh ocean]

see your points fall short because you don't actually know the weapons and how to use them

[wheat karma]

your just ignoring what i've said at this point

[keen delta]

if you are goonna play it like relic blade you are gonna have soe hard time

[wheat karma]

im gonna go bully some deamons to chillax

[fresh ocean]

i really think its more of an issue of weapons having equal footing and some are a little easier some are a little harder to use

[keen delta]

and likemost of the time crushers should be your last concern with the thammer

[balmy moat]

reaper light attack no joke lol

light charged

[fresh ocean]

I'd say the weapon are or aren't balanced but i really don't know because i haven't actually learned them properly

I can express if they feel bad but its usually just not the right setup

or leveling them up which is no fun

game just has a lot to be learned which is good and a lot of people just want to progress difficulty without learning

also if you some how did learn like all base classes thats amazing because it took me 400+ hours to 90% all classes

[keen flume]

needs more damage

[keen delta]

you are using momentum on your thunder hammer you lose butt load of damage just an fyi

you can go with headtaker

@wheat karma

[wheat karma]

used it before, i know ty tho

[balmy moat]

then why complain about lack of damage?

[keen delta]

@wheat karma take the talent points from time to kill and speed boost
take disdain and vicious offering
at the top of the tree
like if you have vicious offering you dont need momentum
and disdain is very good bit a of damage
and you can take one talent point from invigorating revelation and desperation and get providence and abolish blasphemers

[red beacon]

GUID: ee1ce079-e97b-492e-8db6-9bca54a146ab
Log File:
Info Type:

[Script Error]: scripts/managers/nav_mesh/nav_mesh_manager.lua:860: table index is nil

what the hell is this? cant play expeditions because of it

[vocal nacelle]

When in doubt reverify

[balmy moat]

do you use mods?

[keen delta]

do you use any mods ?

[red beacon]

none

[balmy moat]

steam?

[keen delta]

yeah then verify the files

[desert cloak]

i have my own version of creature spawner that i edited myself and apparently after this update, it's not that invis crashes, but it just doesn't work anymore lmao

like you can toggle it on/off and it does nothing

[balmy moat]

then you fixed the crash part but not the function

[desert cloak]

and for some reason, they all just attack you when you want to leave the psyk

[balmy moat]

lmao

[keen flume]

Sefoni feeling silly

[desert cloak]

yeah im not sure what's going on

[keen flume]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-rigby-cat-rigby-the-cat-silly-silly-cat-gif-1731118170300952818

[desert cloak]

xD

I also got to do some changes to hound zero mod and fixed a few things, which apparently dogs are no longer considered your companion in code xD

[keen delta]

it is tho the invis is applied as buff and turning it off is trying to remove the buff but it cant and it crashes instantly

[tame anchor]

wait so do you only get exp on a map if you start the mission?

someone else started beta but i didnt seem to get tech remnants acquird towardss beta, only the total

[red beacon]

all files ok

[rotund ermine]

need to double check

mods still broken this patch?

[balmy moat]

some

[desert cloak]

btw, ik invis broken now, but before update, if you spawn like 20 radio operators in psyk and disabled invis, the game crashes out of memory xD

[balmy moat]

markers AIO has updated, powerDI still broken far as im aware

[desert cloak]

the bois cried so hard for help it crashed the game xD

[rotund ermine]

Thanks

[keen delta]

yeah but radio operators are not released for a reason XD

and I have no issues with spawning 200 ragers

its just aftert 59th rager dies that I crash :DDD

[mint cave]

how the hell are you getting corruption or wounded in psykhaneum?

[balmy moat]

creature spawner, invisibility toggle is broken so i had to spawn and facetank bursters i shot

[mint cave]

will be downloading that shit, too many builds require i avoid mobs or dodge for testing

[desert cloak]

damn

[mint cave]

thats a pretty long time tbf. I think my leveling time for orig 4 was less than 100 hours all together and maybe 150 for all masteries. If you have your basics down, even hogher difficulty isnt impossible, just slow.

I do think the game struggles with gear checks instead of skill checks, and has way too much deeply obfuscated bullshit on how weapons work and the inspect card not updating for your build is just dogshit.

[mint cave]

i genuinely prefer charge zealot to this for the added skill req, nore fun for me. Stealth almost feels cheaty

[mint cave]

i can see where you are coming from fire

Its not that carapace is terrible, its that its a gear check.

[wheat karma]

its a filter really

[mint cave]

and i dont personally like those. If they had say, the weakpoint where you can see their neck under the armor, where its hard to time and hit and that was just unyielding in that spot, thst would open up most of the lower tier

[fresh ocean]

You have 10k hours on the game?

[mint cave]

that's vermintide, which is what dt is based on

[wheat karma]

i wish that it broke like storm vermin shields

at least some parts

[fresh ocean]

Well to be fair vermintide is vermintide and darktide is darktide

[mint cave]

If all armor in the game either had an over heat mechanic from lasgun, plasma and fire weapons or permanent wesr and teae brittleness i tgink the weapon balance would be in a better place

[fresh ocean]

But like balance is not a concern right now its really the last issue i have

[mint cave]

this is... not a particualrly helpful stance. Its fine to like something as it is and also want it to keep improving.

how many hours do you have?

[fresh ocean]

On what

[mint cave]

on this game, what else?

darktide

[wheat karma]

his stance has been rather, skill issue, bad player base, not his problem

[fresh ocean]

Vermintide was mentioned

And im deciding to even endulge in this right now with that tone

[mint cave]

tone?

[fresh ocean]

I think the games main issues lie with polishing up bugs and the mechanics

I dont find carapace to be a big issue

[mint cave]

well, since youre being weirdly reticent about your hours: when you have a few k hours, meta starts to feel really claustrophobic and you tend to either have to do "loincloth and stick against melania" runs with garbage tier stuff for sinple variety

[fresh ocean]

The point of hours was to prove there is still more to be learned

[mint cave]

My guy, i am not judging, i was asking for information so i could better understand where you are coming from

[fresh ocean]

Which no i do not believe 5 hours is enough time on a single weapon to give a final opinion on if its good or bad

Its very much something where i too am learning

[mint cave]

if yoyre gonna explore every single weapon with every possible configuration of perks, sure.

but some of them are wall to wall dogshit and most blessings are frankly filler

So yeah, it can takr a while, but conpare tgis to something like drg

[fresh ocean]

yes some of them do suck

so just buff the ones that suck

but you still have options

[mint cave]

drg weapons have a much more limited set of upgrades, but there arent even bad options

[fresh ocean]

im just saying is it valid to say something sucks if you don't actually know the optimal way to use it?

[wheat karma]

genuinely ignore this dude fr. he adds nothing to these conversations.

[mint cave]

but put the top 3 meta blessings on any autogun and youre still gonna be doing less dps than laspistol, recon las, or helbore.

[wheat karma]

as he thinks nothing is wrong xd

[fresh ocean]

fire my issue is you say one thing then get disproven

[mint cave]

theres no need for that. We've all got a place in the conversation, even if its on opposite sudes of the table

[mint cave]

bud, saying you dont have an issue, doesnt mean a point is disproven, tbf

[fresh ocean]

yeah i never said your opinion is worthless

[mint cave]

Carapace is a bottleneck, full stop

[fresh ocean]

thats not what that message meant

[balmy moat]

i also suggest solo play and true solo QOL

[fresh ocean]

i said fire says things and then those things are not true

[balmy moat]

but, again, creature spawner is broken, so im not sure if they work

[mint cave]

that limits build variety sicne pub matches cant have niche roles and evetyone has to ne a generalist

[balmy moat]

in a mission now but i can explain how spawner is brokenm

[mint cave]

all good, take your tine. Ill probably dl solo node ina few weeks, i want to give everyone a chance to update thier mods

[fresh ocean]

spawner just crashes for me but its not like i tried setting it up

or fixing it

[mint cave]

Point is this, carapace is a gear/build check. Ctusher is the main issue, and they've got several other issues (inconsistent hitbox on attack compared to weapon model, all orgyns can turn on a a dime or spin in place which is dogshit lore and gameplay wise, heavy overhead should bowl over their allies like mutant charges) but they really are the chokepoint for build variety atm

[fresh ocean]

Yeah i get that exists i just don't think its our biggest issue with the game right now

like you aren't hard stuck anywhere because of it you just need to work around it and learn what works

I'm just more concerned about polishing up the game

so yeah buff more weapons or add a weak point thats fine

[mint cave]

I dont need to learn anything anymore, ive mastered what yhe game has to teach. Ita just some stuff is not viable unless your willing to play masochist mode

[fresh ocean]

but if it takes away from the difficulty then i won't like it

[mint cave]

If you want more difficulty, run less curios or worse perks

Run worse weappon blessings

[fresh ocean]

thats not how that works

[mint cave]

Yes it is.

[fresh ocean]

I'm saying the games difficulty as it is is fine but if you are implying that we need to make carapace easier to deal with in general and not just bring several weapons up to a more even level then i disagree

it just sounds like we want the game to be easier and im sorry but thats not what i want

[mint cave]

Heres the issue with how this game is being handled at the moment: we have a lot of options, many of which are suboptimal and some are activrly self-sabotaging. That means from many ststting points, we have fewer successful paths and the planning portion of skill expression isnt there.

however, that means you have an inversely proportional means of making the game harder

[fresh ocean]

the simple solution to that is going down in difficulty

[mint cave]

Who is talking about simplr solutions

im talking about habing paths of success be forged in player skill not gear checks

[fresh ocean]

yeah thats fine

thats literally what i am saying

[mint cave]

give me weak spots, angles og impact.for grester damage, a defense system based in hitting enemies in natural openings in thier attack pattern.

[fresh ocean]

but if that weak spot takes away from difficulty then its kind of lame

[mint cave]

Carapsce as it is right now isnt skill based

[fresh ocean]

its a knowledge check

and also all the hitboxes in the game are not accurate

[mint cave]

its a gear check

[fresh ocean]

so thats not just a crusher issue

see that guy is just disagreeing with me because hes mad

[mint cave]

No, its not, but the crusher is the most obvious example. i actually find the heavy gunner hitboxes to be worse

[fresh ocean]

the projection on "i add nothing here" is quite incredible fire

[mint cave]

there head hit box goes from their nose to an inch above thier head

[fresh ocean]

but you are just proving you are not mature enough to handle discussion

[fresh ocean]

the game has a lot of polish i think it needs which is why i don't really care too much about carapace

[mint cave]

My guy, you spent a long time just being like "youre wrong cuz i dont have an issue with it" amd not really pitting up much support for what you were saying eitger, lets be accountable.

[fresh ocean]

cause if im honest i don't actually think more even level gear will help darktide players be better because a lot of them are really not keen on learning anyways

[fresh ocean]

you are defending someone who is actively emoji reacting lets be real

please hold others to the same level and not pick favorites

[near pawn]

Pro* tip for expeditions
If your team begins to split up, try to be in a group of two
That way, you can be saved if you're trapped by a trapper

*I'm not actually a pro

[fresh ocean]

I like this method it gets things done pretty fast

[wheat karma]

i spent an hour trying to talk and u keep looping back on yourself. so yea i will continue to xd

[mint cave]

Im saying you kind made your bed there, andbwhy you are complaining abouy him to me when its not what i am talking about, like i dont know what you want me to do about it. im not fire's dad

pretty sure anyway

[fresh ocean]

The difference is if i was doing something bad it was not intentional. You are doing something bad intentionally and im sorry you have to act this way

[wheat karma]

i hope ur not xd

that would be scary if he was on discord

[fresh ocean]

and still doing it after i addressed how hypocritical it is after your "this guy provides nothing" comment

[mint cave]

you say you dont want darktide to be easier, byt i think having the zolution to dealing with enemies not bein the in the moment choices you make is easy.

[wheat karma]

woe

no more ragebaiting xd

[mint cave]

so, like, timing and accuracy should be your solution to armor.

[fresh ocean]

yeah thats fine

[mint cave]

but less skillfull options sjould also work because we all have to start somewhere

armor should degrade over time.

Repeated hits should literally weaken its effectiveness

But its penalty is thst its slower and it leaves enemies more time to get to you or your teammmates

[fresh ocean]

Eh well if a game wants you to do something a certain way i don't think we should remove doing that thing a certain way

[mint cave]

Having good gear should be about efficiency, not binary effectiveness

[fresh ocean]

just cause its something we have to learn

[mint cave]

nope.

[little coyote]

So we just need the Rotten Armour modifier to be the norm

[mint cave]

Im actually ok with that, and with modifiers like yhst being onc ertain enemies in the game, i think it makes the game feel a lot less monotonous

But i also thinkw r oush into the dicision terriory too much at higher difficulties

bullet sponges are not interesting

[fresh ocean]

I'm fine with having enemies that you can shoot and enemies that you aren't suppose to shoot

that is where melee comes in

[mint cave]

I dont like that carapace has a 0 modifer ok not critical hits in a lot of weapons and takes nearly no bleed or burn damage.

i dont like that it doesnt take extra elextroxution damage. they already have ass tons of hp.

[fresh ocean]

I mean wouldn't it be as monotonous if everything could die to bullets?

[vocal nacelle]

Should get more hp tbh and reduce the number by 1

[mint cave]

i have infinite melee. I dont mind resource management, i love tge souls games

I just eant my resource expenditure to be tailored to specific foes and techniques

like ok

whats good againdt carapace is by default grest agianst everything else just about

because carapace enemies have high hp and really great armor and really great offense, across the board

[pastel forge]

Knife and dueling sword are good for carapace but suck ass against horde

[fresh ocean]

yeah true

i mean they get the job done I guess but not really my favorite horde clear

[mint cave]

havent had that issue. @pastel forge

[fresh ocean]

so its trading out horde clear for carapace

[mint cave]

theyre meta weapons because while they arent amazing at horde clear they are better at horde clear than non armor focused horde clear weapons are at armor

and ds is frankly fine at horde clear, it shreds

[fresh ocean]

Well honestly i always have something good for carapace and something good foor horde clear or both

[pastel forge]

Dueling sword and knife have literally some of the worst horde clear times of the game

[fresh ocean]

I mean i think this game already has so much to think about when it comes to building right that sure even if you make carapace easier to deal with players are still honestly going to decide to not look into anything and have bad builds anyways

[mint cave]

Doesnt matter, because the worst horde clear times in the game are proportionately better and more effective than the worst armor clear times are on poor armor weapons

and armor is more of a threat

[desert cloak]

hmm, if i were to give my 2 cents on "carapace issue", it's that it is too over centralized, it's literally a HD2 situation back when chargers and bile titans were the focus of people's gear - bring heavy anti-armor, you're gonna have easy time, don't bring it, you will struggle
it is literally based on gear and it is a gear problem
now HD2 and darktide have different situations as darktide has more ways to deal with carapace, but it's the fact that they spawn many of them at you at once while you also have to deal with other shit in the process
It's the fact that everyone focuses their build on anti-carapace more or less

[mint cave]

agreed

[vocal nacelle]

Not that bad in darktide unless you somehow got matched with 4 recon vet you included

[fresh ocean]

Yeah i don't even want to talk about HD2 balance that stuff annoys me

[desert cloak]

i mean, i'm a person who basically 2-3 shots crushers in the head with DS, and i've been a DS main for ages, but like i can't deny that yeah... carapace spam is a problem lol

[balmy moat]

creature spawner invisibility toggle will cause you to crash, so you cant turn invis off to actually spar with them. i dont know if solo play is broken in the sense of "your invisibility is off, therefore crash" since its classified as psykhanium when you run it

[mint cave]

Hive scum and arbites whole stick is to deal eith carpace by going around its strengths, which is why they feel kinda bs and pay to win, which is a shame because they are legitmately interesting in the first place

[fresh ocean]

I think most classes handle carapace pretty well

like arbities is not really a big dps class

[mint cave]

Everyone is viable, not everyone ignores armor or controls it

[keen delta]

@wheat karma thunder hammerweak KEKW

[mint cave]

Zealot ans ogryn are hard in the cold right now

[wheat karma]

Baller af

[keen delta]

does 109k damage on one hit

[wheat karma]

Highest i ve gotten legit was like 182k

[fresh ocean]

Well if you mean options but zealot i've not had issue with

ogryn if im honest is okay cause of the stagger

[wheat karma]

I think i could get to 220 or so based on the math

[desert cloak]

das alot of numbers on the scoreboard

[vocal nacelle]

As an ogryn player mass crusher are not a problem unless you bring knife + twinstubber/rippergun

[fresh ocean]

I just don't like ogryn being hit by everything is all

[mint cave]

stagger isnt kills, and becuase bleed does dogshit damage to, guess what, only carapace, another chokepoint

[fresh ocean]

Infinite stagger go brr and you smash them over the head

[desert cloak]

man that gun is so disappointing
i literally expected a vet bolter for the ogryn but more controllable and more ammo

first time i got it

[mint cave]

i play me some ogryn too, but about half of ogryn weapons are not great at anything. the top tier ones are amazing tho

[fresh ocean]

stagger isn't kills but it absolutely can give more dps as you aren't dodging attacks

[balmy moat]

forgot to even check mine, exploded twice, still did good damage B)

[fresh ocean]

plus teammates can also help out during that stagger

[keen delta]

bleed and fire needs rending to work with or brittleness

[vocal nacelle]

Kinda right, knife doesn't kill 5 crusher at once but its manageable

[mint cave]

ogryn ranged repeating weapons are ammo kitted like they hit like trucks but theyre basically just reskinned auto guns.

[vocal nacelle]

Got nerfed and fixed

[mint cave]

yeah. i get bleed, but burning something covered in heavy armor should just work. they come in their own can to cook in

[vocal nacelle]

Peak ripper gun(bugged) is top tier

[mint cave]

? not sure what this means

[balmy moat]

when i play arby i go stagger machine rather than DPS, but stagger locking allows for serious hits to be put in

[mint cave]

thats true, and like i said, stagger is strong, stagger is control.

[desert cloak]

stagger is life

[mint cave]

stagger is shrek

[balmy moat]

i love stagger

casual rending trauma enjoyer

[mint cave]

skullxrusher and rending make staffer intl a killer, for sure

this is an aside,bhut you know what i keep thinking? thammer needs a buff, and crusher needs a niche

[keen delta]

well the amount is not reduced by armor rending and brittleness just amplifies it

[balmy moat]

thammer got a buff for its ADM

crusher tho yeah

[mint cave]

yeah but still not great for its speed

[balmy moat]

i enjoy it

serves me well in every difficulty

marty stacks help tons

[keen delta]

you go 10% attack sped node and martyrdom w

[vocal nacelle]

Used to be good

[mint cave]

guys, with love and respect, i know how to build, im saying compared to relix or even evis crusher and thammer are anemic

so my thought is this

give crusher the relic blade stlye power

[vocal nacelle]

Nay

[mint cave]

heat based

[balmy moat]

i feel other way around personally, i dispise relic

[mint cave]

separate tgier roles more

[vocal nacelle]

Give crusher powermaul treatment but faster cooldown

[fresh ocean]

What do you use?

[balmy moat]

thammer

crucis

[mint cave]

thatd what i want for thammer

thats because ironhelm is actually made of poop

poop in tinfoil

[balmy moat]

ironhelm is bugged in a way i cannot tolerate

h2 gets sprint canceled

[mint cave]

yup

[fresh ocean]

I do need to give thammer another chance. When i tried it back then i was less experienced and leveling it

[balmy moat]

i loved it until i figured that out

[mint cave]

Nah, though, i eant a cooldown based bonky stick, an activation on hit bonky stick, and a heat based bonky stick

[balmy moat]

am curious what the 3rd mark of thunder hammer will be

[mint cave]

Wgat dont you lile about relix blade? Like dont get me wrong, i still have a photo of old thammer on my nightstand, but it doesnt feel as good anymore and relic blade does almost everything thammer does at pike 90% quality plus does everything else better

[balmy moat]

the attack patterns

[mint cave]

a plus blocks sprint cancel actually works on relic

[balmy moat]

i hate the attack patterns on both relic blade marks

[fresh ocean]

relic blade feels pretty simple

[balmy moat]

too FGS brained

[mint cave]

Fair. I kinda feel same on psyker greatsword. feels weird and floaty and swimny

[vocal nacelle]

Relic blade on Thammer skin

[balmy moat]

same with mark 8 fgs

mark 6 is my beloved

[mint cave]

i can never rmeember which is which

[balmy moat]

mark 8 is horizontal light attacks 100%, stab behind push attack

mark 6 is 3 diagonal lights, 1 strikedown light, stab in heavy attack loop

mark 8 is black hilt, 6 is gold

my beloved

[mint cave]

id have to get on to actually see which one i use. psyker with gs is so fadt pace i dont think ive ever teally absorbed what im doing, its just on instinct

[balmy moat]

psyker really is just vibes

[mint cave]

im def using other mark

ill have to try the 6

[balmy moat]

if you do,

is different

[mint cave]

oh fuck

[balmy moat]

if you do l1 l2 block cancel it'll be transferable muscle memory

[mint cave]

its got a sweep push attack

sold

[balmy moat]

its VERY fucking handy

when cornered

[mint cave]

the only weapon that i really like a non swep puzj attack on is makr one poke veteran shovel

[balmy moat]

also buffs go brr

[mint cave]

becuase thst downward attack has insane armor pen and finesse

nice. psyker i feel like has the most variable viable paths in building it right now

[balmy moat]

extremely versatile, yeah

[mint cave]

Like ive been runnign a shcok maul and elextro dtaff bb build with scryers thats just evil

sorry i have huge hands and a tiny phone, its a rough combo for typos

[balmy moat]

no worries

[mint cave]

if thry could make assail worth using id be very happy

[balmy moat]

D:

how so

as an assail enjoyer, pls elaborate

[mint cave]

i love it too, ut i know i have an easier time running bb or smite

[pastel forge]

Assail actually gets to deal damage unlike smite lol

[mint cave]

assail is really fun, and i like it, but i wish it had more synergy or maybe i judt ma missong synergy

[balmy moat]

malefic momentum

[mint cave]

yeah but if smite did damage it nobody eoukd run anything else

[balmy moat]

my clip i posted of FGS there, is showing malefic momentum assail weaving

[mint cave]

oh

ooooohhhhhh

[balmy moat]

+25% damage to the assail and the sword

[mint cave]

im an idiot

[balmy moat]

its ok

[mint cave]

i love to build weird shitnwith deep or recursive synnergies

and then i miss basic shit in front of my face lol

[balmy moat]

hehehe

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1005f75-f2d5-4353-ad09-96218a14f7b0/adhd-mode-lol

this build is mega cursed but the synergy especially with my playstyle is really good, so i get what you mean

[mint cave]

i getcha

i have a support build for veteran that looks bad on paper but is good at dishing out dots and brittleness that i barely run grenades

recon and shock maul, can stack max bleed, brittleness, burn and electrocute with a quick weapon swap andnsome headshots

ill give thst build a try, looks fun

you know what wrapon i hate

the veteran powersword

[balmy moat]

very versatile

[mint cave]

oh that makes way more sense

[pastel forge]

Amkes

[keen delta]

havoc 30 viable tested

[mint cave]

at some point i got confused on how empowered procs, and started thinking it had to be with non blitzes

[mint cave]

buy me a bigger phone if you cant handle typos lol

[balmy moat]

[mint cave]

power falchion and relix blade are way more fun than power sword and crusher style activations

and for real i want chain weapons to just have way more cleaavr and a quick pullthrough on hits rsther than the special charge hit thing

[pastel forge]

Falchion is also like <half of power sword dps lol

[mint cave]

I genuinely dont care, all due respect

[balmy moat]

fun is more important than function

[mint cave]

dps<tolerability

[balmy moat]

its a game not a job

[pastel forge]

Ye just making sure i dont pass on falchion slander

[balmy moat]

its not slander if its true

wait-

[mint cave]

most of powerswords dps is overkill though so womp womp

[pastel forge]

Overkill better than not killing

[balmy moat]

staff bonk only h40 psyker 4-man les go

[mint cave]

I genuinely wonder what the diff is in our playstyles in vet, ilas

[pastel forge]

Chain weapons (and also crowbar) just needs the latch attacks to properly scale with attack speed

[mint cave]

fair

although i think the crowbar latch attack being a shovel poke style one off would aslo be fine. Its not like it has a bunch of differemt moves

actually, crow bar moveset is lowkey kinda dogwater

[balmy moat]

what title is this from

[mint cave]

in my head i never pictured chain weapons working like the gears of war bayonets or fallout rippers, i pictured it more like a really really fast cutter, like you just go through things faster

archivum missions i think

[pastel forge]

Its a fucking chainsaw of course theyre going to work like that

[mint cave]

nah, chaindawz have steel teeth that scoop more than cut designed with heavy amd wide kerf to tear through tough and fibrous stuff

chainswords canonically are like hundreds of little razor sharp adamantine blades. its a sword that cuts while you cuts, not tears

saw blades cut like a cats claws, not like a knife.

they rip more than slice

[balmy moat]

they replied, content creator for fatshark

[pastel forge]

Pretty much every single depiction ive seen has them actually sawing stuff

Or being able to do both

Also like

Whats the point of including a chainsaw weapon if you cant actually chainsaw the enemies

[mint cave]

im not arguing that we shouldnt have a mark for that

i just also want my slicey boy

literally you could have the effect by switching blade spin directions

[pastel forge]

Just use a non chain melee

[mint cave]

Ilas. My guy.

There is no reason we couldnt both have what we want

why does me getting what i want ruin your fun when you still have what you want

[pastel forge]

You can still do that

All the chain melees have attacks that dont tear

Usually the more horizontal attacks for horde clear

And regular chainsword only has latching on the special

[keen delta]

chain weapons are generally used against shit you want to mangle

not really cut through

[mint cave]

yeah, i guess ot really depends on who is writing them tbf

my guess is some authors probably dont know how chainsaws actually work lol

[keen delta]

I mean it can cut through armor but not really ideal. It is not designed to do so

[mint cave]

wait i thought that was like 100% what they were for primarily

is armor

not in dt specifically, 40k overall

[keen delta]

you aim for weakspots on armor thinner layers

[steep silo]

For being a playtester or something like that pretty sure

[keen delta]

cuz while adamantine is durable so are the armor pieces so you dont want to fuck up your teeth

[balmy moat]

content creator for fatshark

[winter ruin]

Anyone else not getting the twitch drops?

[keen delta]

they are weapons of terror first

[mint cave]

there are twitch drops?

[winter ruin]

yes but for the first time they havent been sent through

[steep silo]

Yeah they're not showing up for me as well

[winter ruin]

Ok so they broke twitch drops

[winter ruin]

Yeah been waiting so long for the zealot drop

[mint cave]

see ive worked with chainsaws for wood and bandsaws for wood and meat separate jobs (worked as a logger and at a butcher shop for a while) and its really amazing how different the designs are for saws.

[winter ruin]

Strange flex but ok

[mint cave]

ive always wondered if a lapping deisng eith the shapr bit being the back of the saw tooth (the curvy bit, not the hook side) would work

[mint cave]

talking chain weapon lore before you came in lol

some books describe them like chainsaws, tearing and chewing through things, some describe them like rapidly spinning blades (as opposed to teeth) that slice through softer materials

[keen delta]

dunno chainweapons can deal with armor but not really ideal for to do so for prolonged engagements they are cheaper to produce on a large scale compared to power swords

[mint cave]

fair

[keen delta]

and very effective against orks

[mint cave]

and then of course there are the electro-power-chain weapons, do not steal

[keen delta]

you mangle them up real good so they dont regenerate easily and make sure they stay fucking dead

[mint cave]

doesnt some group of arbites set thier chainweapons on fire before fighting orks?

love me some 40k but when it gets ridiculous its at its best.

[pastel forge]

40k works almost entirely on "hell yeah" energy

If it didnt we wouldnt have shit like bolters or chain weapons

[keen delta]

well if arbites are fighting orks you have more problems than worrying about chainweapon effectiveness

shit must have went super wrong at some point kekw

[mint cave]

oh lol im tired i meant astartes

[pastel forge]

Its 40k shit goes super wrong on a regular basis

[mint cave]

didnt some group of arby's employees fight orks with their spatulas

[pastel forge]

No that was denny's

[balmy moat]

[mint cave]

orks are clearly welcome at dennys

[keen delta]

not really only time that would be the case for an arbites to fight ork when invasion of an imperial world by orks occur they dont really fight alot with xenos

[vocal nacelle]

Imperium faction as fastfood franchise

[winter ruin]

Ok so no one ingame got drops yet ether some been waiting since the drops went live, support still telling people they have to wait 24hours, its been longer

Can you tell i log on for new drip and event rewards? lol

[fresh ocean]

so anyone having this happen?

like 4th time now

[winter ruin]

Whole games crashed once in 2 games

Let me reconnect tho

[fresh ocean]

nope this doesn't let me reconnect

the servers haven't even been up that high

so it must be a issue with the game because i can't even rejoin so

ah new content but you aren't allowed to play it cause a new issue appears

love it

[desert cloak]

i love error 2019

[timid plover]

Once, and there have been a couple of times the doors to exit the sanctuary have taken a little while to open.

[winter locust]

how much more difficult is damnation from heresy

[restive jewel]

do you guys buy commissary stuff with all your dockets?

i have like 5 mil with me

[steep silo]

when mission abort happens it just boots everyone from the mission, no way to reconnect

happened to me a few times since update

[gusty whale]

you can feel the difference but it is certainly manageable

[strange thunder]

yes, but I bought it all and have been capped out at 25 mil for ages

[solid shoal]

What is typically considered the best all around melee?

Trying a melee psyker build but I dont want anything that is only good for one thing or another

[strange thunder]

FGS

for psyker

[clear plume]

force swords

but they have a minor downside of poor horde clear

but you are psyker

the horde clear class

the greatsword counters that downside but loses its mobility

in the trade

[solid shoal]

Hate to say it but the build uses smite so im not worried about poor horde clear

[clear plume]

if its what you enjoy

go for it

I personally hate smite

but use what you like

[strange thunder]

your teammates might hate smite too :^)

[solid shoal]

Probably

I try not to use it tbh I just have it on for the electric perks

Kind of a "thor" build

[strange thunder]

they're honestly not worth the investment

use 2 points instead on brain burst and the kinetic flayer talent with it

and you'll have a much smoother blitz that will actually help a lot

without having to pull it out and use it

[solid shoal]

Yeah I already have a build that revolves around that so seems a bit, excessive

[strange thunder]

can never have too much KF

but usually when you're doing melee builds you're taking warp splitting, which helps out assail a ton instead

[solid shoal]

Kf?

[strange thunder]

kinetic flayer

[solid shoal]

Oh

[clear plume]

assail is also a huge thing to note

[strange thunder]

and assail doesn't need any extra talents

[clear plume]

with single hand force swords having poor horde clear

assail also will help proc talents

like MM

[solid shoal]

Mm...

[clear plume]

experiment and see what you enjoy

[solid shoal]

Im relatively new to darktide so plz help me out lol

What's mm

[clear plume]

Thats what we are here for

sorry for using short names

uhhh

I keep forgettting the name

[strange thunder]

malefic momentum

[clear plume]

but the talant that gives warp damagae when you kill with non warp

and non warp damaghe when you kill with warp

[solid shoal]

Oh right

[clear plume]

and since force swords are non warp they proc, and assail fills the other side

so they buff each other

[mint cave]

psyker is also really good with shock maul, munitorium is better

shock maul had decent clear and good focus damage on heavies

[hushed mauve]

is it just me or do the mobs in expeditions hit harder than in normal play?

[strange thunder]

don't see why they would

[hushed mauve]

dunno i loose liek 50% of my health if a poxwalker hits me

[strange thunder]

yeah that's what they do

[steep silo]

Maybe all the shooters have chipped your toughness and you haven't noticed

[strange thunder]

bursters will deal enough dmg as is

[hushed mauve]

walker not burster

[strange thunder]

backstabs hurt so

prob was a bruiser

[hushed mauve]

only saw a walker tahts why i had the assumption ^^

[strange thunder]

they do 84 dmg on auric

reg poxwalker that is, but no extra toughness dmg

but you'd take corruption, so if you didn't take corruption it prob wasn't one

[hushed mauve]

then it wasnt one, thanks for the info

[mint cave]

anybody know the number of crit hits ins the recon lasgun xii crit string? i think it might be 4 but i cant remember

[sick arch]

I tried to ask in general but ive unlocked all of the grid points in expedition but i cant find half of them for the 18 grid points in expedition penance ?

[pulsar acorn]

this is

frustrating

[hollow zealot]

yes but i took ashwaganda so I lowkey know it will pass soon enough

Can anyone help with a havoc mission supposedly I NEED a 2nd person

[twilit halo]

wasted like 3 hours now after every mission 6 in a row disconnected at the end....

just leave the game for 6 weeks until fatshark fixed all the bugs they implemented...

[fresh ocean]

Have they said anything about fixing this

like i'd love to play sometime soon

[short gazelle]

i'd love to play an exped where salvage is shared instead of every man for himself

very anti-team game design where no one can get any pickups because very one scraps for scraps

[crimson matrix]

Feels like a stupid question but, does the amount of tech you can collect on expeditions scale with difficulty?
I’ve generally been playing on malice to get used to farm the penances and I’m curious if higher difficulties might help things go faster

[void forge]

how much do you get on average? in auric im getting around 2-3k tech

[fresh ocean]

or make the salvage local but yeah just any way is good

[eager flame]

Tech scales up to Damnation. Damnation and Auric are the same. It isn't a huge difference though.

[fresh ocean]

okay so not sure what it is but the mission abort is every other mission now

pretty sure its not even a door issue its just unstable

[eager flame]

Yeah I stopped playing when that started happening every match. It may be a crash due to late aggro, someone leaving or whatever. They will fix it in another month or two.

[fresh ocean]

Is there any new maps for the normal gamemode?

[eager flame]

Did anyone get the Zealot Twitch drop cosmetics yet?

[balmy moat]

it is shared

salvage is shared with all, same as plasteel and diamantine are

then, everyone uses their own "allowance" to spend on whatever they want

[onyx knot]

im assuming higher diff gives more grid points

ye?

[tame anchor]

why are my games on beta not counting towards my points

[restive jewel]

got it yesterday haven't checked my account jn game yet

[simple leaf]

so how do we unlock 18 grid points in expeditions? for the penance, i mean. There are only 8 visible

[pastel forge]

I assume the grid will rotate eventually with new points to unlock

[simple leaf]

weekly or when we unlock it all?

[pastel forge]

No idea but likely time-based

[simple leaf]

understood, ty

[vivid girder]

So uh, I just got to modding the game after years of not doing so and now I can't use my escape button to access my menus???

[clear plume]

If no one here can help this is the modding discord

Which will offer better help

[upbeat parcel]

43 fps on mourningstar medium settings no ray tracing rtx 3080 ryzen 5 5600 how do i fix this?

[cinder flicker]

Anyone know why my textures on certain enemies are quite blurry before they load in after some seconds? I've heard ppl mentioning vram and stuff, but surely a 5080 should be able to load textures fast enough?

Happens on walls and floors as well

[keen flume]

It is the game engine perfomance be the way it is

[zealous dome]

Go to .ini and see if ray tracing is turned off there

[cinder flicker]

No fix?😅

[cinder flicker]

Do i want it on or off ?

[zealous dome]

Off

[keen flume]

RTX is worthless in this game

[cinder flicker]

This game too...

[pulsar acorn]

hey i'm experiencing some weird things on expeditions, game works good but sometimes performance seems really affected, i don't know if this is the reason but i noticed that trapers and snipers are way faster, like if the game eat some frames on syncronization on the match, also happen when tryng to change the gun while i'm firing sometimes seems like the input of the mouse firing the gun is stucked and instead of change the weapon keep shooting 2 seconds wich can be translated into a death if you try to swap to melee to push poxbusters, i'm feeling like the game is somehow eating some fps, could this be for framegen?

[soft violet]

I can't remember an update that DIDN'T cause massive connection issues.

[fiery bay]

Does corruption apply to wounds or to the total health? Like will someone with 3 wounds corrupt fully slower than 2 wounds when getting corruption in like, expedition?

[balmy moat]

total hp/corruption resistance

wounds do nothing defensive except make you hope your team can get to you in time

[fiery bay]

ty

[red stratus]

My RX 9070 AMD GPU utilization is at 60% and the game runs terribly. Any suggestions?

[opal nebula]

could someone clarify what this means? feel like i should've had it completed

[strange thunder]

you all stay in the zone and don't leave it once

so it's 4/4 until you all jump in

so it also means triggering it while you're all there

and not one doing it ahead of everyone else

[mint cave]

not even the mighty 5080 is good enough for the poor backface culling and over wrought engine of darktide

source: me too homie

[vocal nacelle]

A lot of tweak https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1j7v5m6/finally_got_rid_of_all_the_stutters_in_the_game/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1fhr9bl/potential_fix_for_stuttering/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1fl790a/amd_performance_fix_guide/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1gcih11/for_amd_gpusers_consider_trying_driver_2471_to/

[thin crest]

It says with teammates but only the single one I myself inserted counted and so many have been left uncounted yall getting this

[shadow skiff]

Is normal, the data stuff are all selfish individual only. Same with the extract carrying one.

[mild snow]

So.... recently, my mods alll broke!

Has anyone been able to get their mods working with the game? or right now, we need to wait for the core frameworks mod to update?

[vocal nacelle]

Find the fix in modding discord

[mild snow]

Where is the modding discord?

[vocal nacelle]

#📌communities message

[mild snow]

Thank you so much

[tame anchor]

is there an order of hardest to easiest expedition zones? Im assuming lamda is hardest and alpha is easiest

[eager flame]

Check the modifiers tabs above the mission description. There is an achievement for unlocking 18 zones so my guess is they are not all on the same page or more have yet to be added over time.

[tame anchor]

wow 18 zones

the vortex and dogs seem to be the only +difficulty ones, not sure if night one is actually making it harder on beta

or extra time/scavenge zones

[grave geyser]

What's the dump stat for staffs is it warp resistance or quell speed?

[vernal frigate]

Usually warp resist

A bunch of talents benefit from high peril, and low warp resist helps you reach those levels faster

[grave geyser]

Thank you

[balmy moat]

there are exceptions, voidSTRIKE staff is blast radius dump

then alternate dump stats for very specific builds, but yeah warp res is good rule of thumb for all psyker things

[vernal frigate]

👆

Voidstrike (not to be confused with Voidblast) can dump blast radius because the explosion does negligible damage

[fresh ocean]

why would they in a team game make that objective non team related?

mainly when they mention the team lol

[formal sun]

Hey everybody was wanting to know how to get the loyal companion penance to pop is it bugged as im on ps5 and I've played with a team got downed by the pox hound and my dog went 4 the save but no pop

[shadow skiff]

Because Fatshark. It only gives a +1 to the person dropping it in.

It's bad enough there are ppl fighting each other over it since you get 1-4 data per run and everyone wants their 100 inserts.

[fresh ocean]

yeah i should of known something was up when people literally didn't let the fastest player just simply carry it to a place

they really screw this stuff up

[pulsar pilot]

what do the icons on the GPS in expedition mean? I think the one with the upward arrow means extract?

[pastel forge]

Upwards arrow is extract, doors are safezones, rest are places with stuff to loot

[vocal nacelle]

valkyrie extract

[pulsar pilot]

thanks v much! 🙂

[pulsar pilot]

yeah, thanks for the confirm 🙂 not sure on the others 🙂

[fresh ocean]

anyone know if this crash is tied to mods?

[steep silo]

Has that as well yesterday, scoreboard was doing it for me

[fresh ocean]

same but then a new crash came in so

mods off completely

[steep silo]

Oh, then you should maybe take it to the folks over the modding discord

[upbeat parcel]

its not

[shadow skiff]

Turn it off for a free 10~ FPS.

FS does good baked lighting. RT is basically stupid pointless thing imo.

[noble field]

Does agroing enemies raise threat lvl in expeditions or only fighting them?

Guy last match was adamant that it doesnt yet we had 2 bosses in area 2 on malice 🤔

[austere flame]

Anyone wanna help me set up The Orthus offensive bell hard mode real quick?

[noble field]

Anyone know?

[noble field]

Try asking in an lfg channel if you havent already

[hushed mauve]

afaik it is killing + time spent + cleared points

[surreal acorn]

so in expeditions where else do the damaged goods or whatever go aside from evac? I know Hadron said it but i missed it

[hushed mauve]

mode is new though, so we are all still trying to figure out the smaller things

[noble field]

yeah, figured

[hushed mauve]

you mena data vaults?
in the sanctuaries. if you walk in with one usually swagger tells you they have somethign to open it up.

[surreal acorn]

got it I figured but no one seems to want to do it

[noble field]

yeah there will be a thing to turn it in with a button prompt that helps find it

[hushed mauve]

there is an achievemtn for carrying one when extractign with the valkyrie

[noble field]

like the lil circle thing

[noble field]

oh ty for the tip

[narrow salmon]

did they get rid of the double use invis backstab? you used to be able to get 2 uses out of shroudfield if you timed it well. or am i just rusty

[hushed mauve]

anytime

[hushed mauve]

to my knowledge attackign ends shroud

has done so for a long tiem now

if you mena the buff, yeah you can get 2 uses out of it

[narrow salmon]

how do you get 2 use if invis ends

[hushed mauve]

it is technically not 2 uses btu 2 attacks. you get a buff if you take master-crafted shroudfield and in that window you cna get off 2 more attacks

so techncially speakign it is 3 attacks

it is a tight window though and you have to charge precisely to oneshot 2 more crushers but it is doable

[steep silo]

They removed that a couple updates ago

[steep silo]

in the past you were able to get 2 hits off with full buffs from shroudfield, if you timed it right

but it got fixed a few updates ago

[hushed mauve]

btu the 5 second buff is still ingame

just checked it too

it is not the full shroudfield effect, granted but a sizeable bonus to back attacks

[steep silo]

yeah that's there, just nowhere near what you used to be able to do

like double backstab on boss with full shroud effects

can't find exactly when it got fixed but it was a while ago

[hushed mauve]

it's still strong

[crimson bridge]

in the new expedition mode, there is the barrel that you can place in the safe rooms, but you can also extract with it on the valk. Do you have to be physically holding it in the valk? or can you just place it on the ground in the valk?

we placed 2 on the floor of the valk when extracting out, but idk if that counted or not

[hushed mauve]

you have to hold it for the acheivment, if you mean the data vault

[crimson bridge]

what about for just getting credit for unlocks / progress?

[balmy moat]

it was a bug when it didnt count to your total, supposedly they fixed that

youll have to test tbh, pin the penance for it and extract with it on the valk

[steep silo]

yup, not saying it's not strong, just that it lost the ability to just delete bosses on a whim

Couldn't find other examples of it, but you can see it here during first 20s https://youtu.be/srNicOwXi58?si=fXCEirk1Y2bYfvtE

You used to be able to get 2 attacks off with one use of shroud

[lilac pawn]

How many wounds do you get out of a curio, just one?

[hushed mauve]

jupp

[hushed mauve]

that was cool, but admittedly a tad to strong ^^

[noble field]

What perks should i use on the flamer?

[smoky ember]

unyielding maniac/elites/flak

blaze away overpressure

[tame anchor]

accidentally gambled for 3x plus 3 stamina on my arbites curios, shoulda checked. Thought it had to be gold quality

[steep current]

Anyone know any hidden tips and tricks about making the game feel smooth ? My PC is by no means a streamer-type PC but it always feels kinda bad, even at 100+fps it feels like I'm playing on PS3 with 30fps.

[shadow skiff]

If AMD, nope. That's just how the engine plays on AMD.

[steep current]

it is AMD... oh well.. No darktide for me then 😄

[vocal nacelle]

need a lot of tweaks

[shadow skiff]

There are tweaks you can try, but no guarantees if they will work for you. Just the engine really hates AMD.

[gusty whale]

i wonder if claytide is possible like in vt2

[vocal nacelle]

i know someone play darktide like that

[steep current]

what tweaks ?

[mild snow]

Man.... I just want every class to get like.... 5 more talent points!!!!

[hushed mauve]

holy hell the havoc changes are intense xD

just tried to help someone clear a lvl 15 havo clandestinum gloriana, till we reached the lift we had 2 captains, 4 plogryn, 2 blurgles and a chaosspawn xD not to mention the swarms of elites and specials

[balmy moat]

even normal missions are fucked tbh

normal missions getting armour patrols, had a crusher patrol spawn in then open the martyr skull door

[hushed mauve]

dayum... though even the old "safe zones" at the beginning of a mission are filed with enemies now

[balmy moat]

yup

they fucked up

[hushed mauve]

https://giphy.com/gifs/theoffice-the-office-tv-st-patricks-day-SmoQKB8vBiSWzrPZJG

[shadow skiff]

Could look it up. Think it's a steam guide.

[crisp owl]

first mistake was playing gloriana

[hushed mauve]

gloriana is glorious :3

[stable warren]

So idk what to do my game says "Teammate is not available for matchmaking" I can't queue for my next campaign mission or do anything besides sit in the hub area......

[umbral lagoon]

Restart client

[gleaming lantern]

anyone else finding the delta expedition absolutely brutal (auric)?

even on the first area you're getting wave after wave of crushers/bulwarks/ragers and drowning in pox gas

[strange thunder]

what modifier does delta have again

auric expeditions in general can go from p chill to havoc 40 levels of stuff thrown at you at once if you trigger a lot of it

[balmy moat]

sand vortex iirc

[strange thunder]

yeah those can be brutal because you're just gunfire bait and they don't miss a single shot against you

despite the visibility being garbo

[keen flume]

Can the sandstorms actually one shot when you get dragged too?

I got grabbed one and instantly got down, i was expecting to take chip damage like from blightstormers

[strange thunder]

idt they do any particular damage

[shadow skiff]

Fall damage is real.

You get lucky and you take 0 damage, you get unlucky, you go flying off the map.

Enemies can still shoot you btw.

[keen flume]

Weirdly enough it was a second right i got dragged by the tornado, my health went all go down in a frame

there was no enemies shooting me

[shadow skiff]

Might be some fall damage jank. It is a FS game after all. They still haven't fixed the shield bug after months.

[strange thunder]

ye

[wet knoll]

Hii

I just got the game and finished my tutorial, does anyone have a guide for best graphics settings? The game runs very poorly for some reason

[balmy moat]

depends on your specs

generally though turning off things like raytracing can help

all the unnecessary stuff you wont use, you can also slowly turn things down or off until it runs smooth enough for you

[wet knoll]

i've turned up a lot of stuff down, almost everything down to low, and i cant crack 100 fps no matter what

even with fsr and frame gen

i have a ryzen 5 7600 and a rx 7800 xt, playing on 2k

[eager flame]

For starters, be sure that Raytracing is turned off. It has defaulted to on in past updates. Also avoid FSR and/or framegen.

[wet knoll]

I can't send screenshots here but im getting a terrible 60-80 fps (very unstable) right now. No fsr, no framegen, no ray tracing

with mixed settings between low, medium and high

im in a game hub-like area, im in third person

ok messed around a bit, it's good now i think

[wet knoll]

any reason why to avoid fsr and frame gen?

seems like they're bad implementations

[keen flume]

@wet knoll heres the possible solutions for more stable frames

[keen flume]

for many people myself included we have no choice but use framegen, this game perfomance is a mess depending whats currently on your screen and intensity

[wet knoll]

Thank you

[solid shoal]

Is shock maul any good for elites?

[outer ridge]

Can I play with anybody? I gotta level up

And no one’s replying to me in general chat

[balmy moat]

try #vox-lfg-lexicanum

[smoky ember]

fsr for me causes completely unplayable stuttering

[winter ruin]

Is the live event reward portrait frame supposed to be exactly the same as the one for "bargain hunter"??

Surely thats a little mistake somehow?

[balmy moat]

yeah they fucked up, fatshark classic

[rotund ermine]

they do, sometimes they throw you off into the pits

I seen one player who joined us and rage quiet when the sandstorm thrown him into a bottomless pitt and rage quit

[eager flame]

Someone said this has been addressed and is scheduled to be in the next patch. We'll see.

[lofty jungle]

Looking for help completing the shocking stuff penance - kill 40 stunned enemies in 10 seconds on malice or higher as the zealot

[strange thunder]

use flamer, not melee

if you need more coverage or time you can always get another zealot with stun grenades to help out, the source of the stun grenades doesn't matter

[lofty jungle]

I need some teammates that aren't going to gank all the kills.

[strange thunder]

you can ask for help in the #vox-lfg-lexicanum and picking your respective region

[lost smelt]

Is this one bugged? I don't seem to get any progress on it

[strange thunder]

you have to be the one to do it

it's a shit requirement that doesn't play well in a team

because you have ppl competing for the same penance progression

[rotund ermine]

You carry it and not teammates
💀 💀

You have to compete with 3 people
💀 💀 💀

[strange thunder]

I think it's getting changed tho