gameplay-help

[clear plume]

yes

positioning is under valued by most players

its actually game breaking if well done

and it comes from map knowledge and understanding enemy interactions

[broken raft]

trying to figure out what waist high area is vaultable vs not

[vocal nacelle]

use more dodge and push attack when using duelling sword

[faint perch]

I really like parrying with the duelling sword

[muted ether]

Is there any way to narrow this crash down? It's happening a lot while I have the talent tree open. I assume lua crash makes it a mod issue.

[vocal nacelle]

you already answered your question, disable mod related to talent tree

or disable mod first to check if its mod issue

[bleak gyro]

So apparently this bug is back? People behind me eat shit from sniper shots even though Im legit in front of them... Just happened 3 times in one mission https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-shield-blocks-sniper-shot-but-it-goes-through/61457/4 I dont see anything new on the forums

[stoic locust]

This has just been a thing forever

Its how they behave

[bleak gyro]

they meaning who?

[shadow skiff]

You can't bodyblock it. Just pierces and hits everyone. 1 bad sniper shot can kill an entire team.

[bleak gyro]

Well... thats dumb as shit lol. Fatshark moment

Thanks for explaining though ❤️

[dense tulip]

if it's of any consolation, it shoots through all the enemies as well

dealing damage and all

[half zodiac]

Gave it another go last night. Won both rounds. First I took a shot with my Ogryn on Campaign mission IV.

That was probably the most fun I’ve had. It started out just me with bots, but before long it was me (Ogryn), a zealot, and two more Ogryn. We all had different load outs, but it was just as stomp fest. And the banter had me dying.

The Power Maul was

Heavy attack as a wide-horizontal with ridiculous cleave. Just crushing entire hordes.. Boss went down so fast it was funny.

[inland lichen]

Havoc weekly rewards based on number of missions played or just the highest assignment you did for the week?

[dapper shard]

The latter

[bleak gyro]

any mod around that disables the black and white effect when u have last wound?

[void forge]

Disable screen effects

I also used it for the bon vomit but decided it was more useful to have it on so I know exactly how long the vomit remains on me instead of having to look at the debuff bar

And also it's kind of cheaty to turn it off when it's supposed to obscure your vision

[clear plume]

On top of the sniper shot piercing, your teammates can't dodge an attack aiming at you. For example. If a sniper shot at you and you had a teammate behind you and you both dodge at the same time, you wouldn't get hit while your teammate would

It's how the Dodge system works

You can only dodge attacks targeting you

[near tundra]

What do these modifiers mean and how can I change them in my pandemonium orders?

[clear plume]

They don't mean anything important. It's just saying how many more things are in the title of the party finder

map, difficulty, modifiers

but since it cant display the entire name it just has those to say how many more things are in the title iirc

the only important things is this

rank, and modifiers

[near tundra]

but level 24 has 3 icons and +4, and lvl 33 has 3 icons and +3, I don't understant well the meaning

[clear plume]

notice how the bottom 3 has the rank in the title but the top one doesnt? Because the name of the map is too long, so one of the +5 is the rank, then the rest of the +5 (the 4 others) are the havoc modifiers

Does that make more sense?

[near tundra]

A little

[clear plume]

I will, its not important. only 3 things you need to know, the map, the rank, and the conditions of the mission

[near tundra]

Yeah, I need to find a group that can teach me how to play the higher levels of Pandemonium, because with random people I can't get past level 21.

[clear plume]

havoc is end end gamemode, so it will be rare to find teams capable. The best place to look is in this server using https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045597890472579075 This is because you can get all 4 people in a voice channel

[near tundra]

Thx!!! 😄

[storm glen]

Ive been out of the loop for a while. Is arbites the best class these days?

[strange thunder]

best and best

it's hard to go wrong with it and it's not very punishing

but stuff like vet and psyker can outdamage them

[warped basin]

I never know what people mean when they mean "best" about anything in gaming
like does the class have the highest winrate? is it the most fun to play? the easiest to win with?

[smoky ember]

high survivability, damage output, safety

an easy class to play

original arbites had a shit ton of damage output, amazing survivablity, and with dog, a very safe class to play

[warped basin]

I know why the class is good, idk what "best" is supposed to mean in this context

cause people forgot to use words properly

[modest swallow]

For hive scum can you make healing stimms from chemist

[stoic locust]

We don't know

[rose hinge]

does ads reduce spread

[rain spoke]

Hey hey
What would be the easiest gun to do the marked for death penance?

[prisma wraith]

Revolver is pretty reliable and has some magic to its hitbox to help with headshots

[smoky ember]

yes

including on shotguns

[void forge]

everyone knows that looking down the sights of a shotgun will actually tighten the choke in real life

[polar forum]

Well it’s sci-fi shotguns so duh

[dense tulip]

the machine spirit of the shotgun clenches its muzzle or something

[short light]

Guys, once your assignment is 40, does it get demoted if you skip a week without doing any? Also, does it count if I just do a low lvl instead of a 40?

[vocal nacelle]

yes if you skip you get demoted

[onyx knot]

are rotten armor units still using carapace and flak armor?
or did it change to infested ?

[short light]

Sigh...

Ok, does it count if I do a lvl 1 then?

[strange thunder]

should ye

[vocal nacelle]

Yes

[lime idol]

no armor type change

[dense tulip]

so, how effective do you reckon will new toxic DoT be against carapace?

[patent jasper]

I’m assuming they’ll have one node that gives like 10-20% brittleness to affected targets

[lament parrot]

Hey everyone; pretty new and just hoping someone can explain how weapons work because the game just doesn't seem to?

I have a flamer I've been using and upgrading which is transcendent and 300 power (item level? Not sure what this number is called).

Just had a green flamer at 270 drop and stats wise it's better than my current weapon even though it's a lower rarity and score and the same pattern which just makes no sense to me.

How do you actually know what you're looking for weapon wise and what's good? Are the stats just random or is there a reason stuff you upgrade is worse than drops? Im just super confused by it.

[patent jasper]

The color and rank (profane - transcendent) simply mean how many blessings (nodes with icon) and traits (simple stat increases) it has

The 300 is the overall power level, it just shows every stat number added up basically, but it doesn’t really mean much, look at the actual stat distribution instead. Each stat will have its current % on the left and max % on the right (like 30%/80% for example)

Generally you want a weapon that has 80% max for 4 of the stats and 60% max for one of the stats (a god roll) since that’s the most efficient the community has found for the stat distribution. And the stat that will be dumped is usually mobility/defenses for melee or mobility/collateral for ranged

Stuff that you buy from brunt and upgrade aren’t always worse since it’s the fastest way to roll a god roll weapon

Just save resources and use what you drop while leveling though

[lament parrot]

Okay great that's super helpful thank you! So it's more a case (later on anyway) of finding a weapon with good potential and then maxing it out than being able to upgrade an okay weapon to being great?

Is there a resource anywhere with examples of what god rolls are? I'm sure Ill do a lot of messing about with different classes and builds so it'd be nice to have a list of what to keep an eye out for 💪

[patent jasper]

Asking around in each classes specific chat will help, and if you need builds the pins of each chat also has em

Only like 2 weapons have weird rolls for god roll, otherwise it’s just four 80s and one 60

Said weapons are plasma gun for vet and the foe rend-ripper for ogryn

The plasma gun wants like 68 thermal and 72 charge
The rend-ripper wants 66 ammo and 74 collateral

[lament parrot]

Fantastic, thank you 😇

[patent jasper]

If you need anything explained mechanics wise, Kuli’s guides on steam cover basically everything too

[lament parrot]

Yeah I feel like right now Im kind of stumbling through malice and getting by and Ill have to actually learn how to play "properly" on higher difficulties haha

[patent jasper]

It kinda gets easier in higher difficulties due to people actually being able to play if you can hold your own

[lament parrot]

Yeah that makes sense, just feel like I probably won't get away with charging into hordes spamming light attacks as much and Id actually have to get better at dodges and stamina management etc. Time will tell 🤷‍♂️

[eternal nebula]

is there a list of weapon stat distribution? i just barely figured out what god rolling is a few minutes ago and i don't actually know what most stats do

[strange thunder]

usually best to just ask in class channels, common dump stats across the board is mobility, defense, collateral, and stability

you generally don't want to touch stats that affect damage

but ye, asking for dump stat, perks, and blessings all in one for a particular class is usually easier

[eternal nebula]

thank you

[smoky ember]

every class chat has a guide pinned you can use

but you can also ask

[cold tiger]

call it "acid coating" bam we win

[inland lichen]

As a general rule, most weapons will have defenses/mobility as the dump stat with 60 max stat, while every other stat is capped at 80.
Exceptions include stuff like the plasma gun, and psyker weapons, which usually have warp resistance be the dump stat

[minor plaza]

What's a good place to get plasteel and diamante?

If any

[stoic locust]

Auric quickplay and the highest havoc you can reasonably complete once a week

[faint perch]

Which difficulty and class do you main?

(just curious, Catachan's advice was gold)

[vocal nacelle]

Just normal quickplay damnation for plasteel

Weekly havoc for diamantine

Auric give alot of ordo

[minor plaza]

Uhh I'm a zealot and I can Potentially do heresy

I'm like brand new to Darktide

Only 34 hours

[faint perch]

And already Heresy? That's pretty good

[inland lichen]

Just quickplay the highest difficulty you're comfortable clearing consistently.

[faint perch]

Yeah. Too early for havoc

[vocal nacelle]

low havoc is fine

havoc 16 already yield decent diamantine

[faint perch]

34 hours in?

[vocal nacelle]

a quick loadout check and hammer essential knowledge

16 is like hi shock heresy

[minor plaza]

And can we like maybe fucking remove trappers (I got hit by trappers for half the damn mission)

I'm laughing at my bad luck man rn honestly

[vocal nacelle]

if you are on PC , i recommend splitting the dodge keybind to easier button

[minor plaza]

I'm on console

[vocal nacelle]

rip

[minor plaza]

It's lovely

[little coyote]

you'll get the hang of it soon, they're not too oppressive

[vocal nacelle]

you can dodge most of the melee/ranged attack if you timed it right

learning how to dodge is essential if you wanna play high diff in darktide

[minor plaza]

I've got to the end of the campaign on both zealot and Psyker and got both of them past lvl 25

So like I'm kind of just now understanding the game

[minor plaza]

Yeah every video I watched said that, I'm definitely still working on that one

[vocal nacelle]

whats your current weapon

[minor plaza]

If only fat shark let enemies attack you in the pyskhanium

[vocal nacelle]

you can if you use mods on PC

[minor plaza]

Heavy Eviscerator and Double barrel shotgun

[minor plaza]

Yeah which is why I'm angry about being on console

[vocal nacelle]

decent pairing might struggle a bit

[minor plaza]

Yeah the shotgun is weirdly enough not that effective compared to the melee

Like I only use it on the "boss" enemies

[vocal nacelle]

weapons need correct blessing and talent tree

DB shotgun is mostly for special/elite (flak ones)

[minor plaza]

That kind of makes sense but it seems wrong to me purely out of an realism way

[vocal nacelle]

can also check whats the enemy classification and type there's a lot to learn

[minor plaza]

God yeah all the videos I've watched and I can tell it's just the tip of the iceberg

[vocal nacelle]

biggest problem for normal guns is you cant damage carapace armor enemies (normally)

[minor plaza]

Yeah for my perks I've just done flak and carpace at 25% for both weapons

[vocal nacelle]

and the director loves spamming carapace enemies scab rager (armor rager) and crusher (armor ogryn)

[minor plaza]

Honestly the only enemies that actually give me trouble are ragers

[vocal nacelle]

try flak maniac for shotgun, carapace is useless

[minor plaza]

The uhh dreg I think?

And snipers

Because I'm not very ranged

[vocal nacelle]

dreg one (naked) attack faster if they are sprinting

just hold block first and dodge their combo , hit after

[minor plaza]

It's really hard to slide your way towards a fella who treats your head like an uhhh idk (funny joke here)

[minor plaza]

Yeah honestly I really do need to learn parry and dodge, mostly parry

[vocal nacelle]

"parry" is a different thing

[minor plaza]

But I can't just like go into a private thing to learn it without getting yelled at by people

[keen flume]

Parry does not really exist in the game besides few weapons

[minor plaza]

Well yeah kinda just meant blocking I forgot that there's an difference

[keen flume]

You can perfect block which will stagger enemies

[vocal nacelle]

there's

• block
• shove : light attack when blocking
• push attack : heavy attack when blocking
• parry : weapon special

[minor plaza]

I'd assume most weapons that can parry are either useless or top-tier and good skill gap

[little coyote]

There really aren't useless weapons imo

[minor plaza]

I wanna say combat blade but I've also seen people just go godly with it

[vocal nacelle]

how to avoid damage also separates into few type

• normal dodge
• dodge slide : crouch when dodging
• sprint slide : crouch when sprinting

[keen flume]

Devil Claw and Dueling Sword

[minor plaza]

Yeah I'm good at sprint sliding but otherwise I often just find myself in a circle with no way out or with a wall or something similar behind me

[minor plaza]

I have seen dueling sword like Alot in both videos and in-game

[keen flume]

Because it is OP broken weapon

Been one of the strongest melees for a long time

Was supposed to be nerfed and reworked but they made it much stronger with classes rework

[clear plume]

Since patch 13

And got a recent buff

[keen flume]

Still a snooze melee to use

[clear plume]

I haven't used it in a mission outside twins in like 2 years

[vocal nacelle]

most specials have unique sound cue that you can use to time your dodge

[minor plaza]

Oh god that was absolutely horrendous, I still managed to beat it first try but good god did I get carried

[minor plaza]

Yeah I've been learning sound cues to the point where I'm genuinely having nightmares about them

[keen flume]

You will learn more experience and knowledge over the missions layouts and design so it will become less annoying when stumbling to walls or props

[keen flume]

good, it will get much worse from now on

[vocal nacelle]

cue sniper ventilation gauntlet

[keen flume]

Poxburster wave

say goodbye to your game audio

[vocal nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-mutant-warhammer-40k-darktide-mutant-gif-1118053842768353546

[clear plume]

Yes I love twins fight. I think I've done it a few times

[vocal nacelle]

mutant wave

[minor plaza]

God honestly the pox burster one gives me nightmares

[vocal nacelle]

"few"

[minor plaza]

Mutant just makes me cry

I tried doing a mortis trial

I did not like it

[keen flume]

they are funny

But never understimate

[minor plaza]

They are really funny but getting literally passed around by mutants is terrifying

[keen flume]

One second a bomber will throw a fire grenade, mutie grabs you into it and you are down

[minor plaza]

Surprisingly I haven't had Many issues with bombers excluding one time one turned into a mortar

[keen flume]

You playing heresy right at the moment?

[minor plaza]

I think I've only done 3 heresy maybe 4 at the most

[keen flume]

Bombers are not much of an issue but in higher diffs they become a larger threat with several of them spawn and if not dealt with them fast

room disrupting and blind you with fire walls

[minor plaza]

Oh god I can't even imagine the pains of have just 3 of them

Just two dreg flamers are bad enough with the flame they produce

[keen flume]

Hope you like tox gas with tox bomber spawns

[minor plaza]

Can't imagine literal mortars

[vocal nacelle]

wait till you get the buffet style spawn

[keen flume]

[minor plaza]

So basically mortis trials but it doesn't end?

[keen flume]

12 waves

Theres no endless mode sadly, at least not yet

Oh wait I am stupid

[minor plaza]

Oh wait there is?

[keen flume]

Nah

[minor plaza]

I thought there wasn't

[keen flume]

I misread the message

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-willem-dafoe-duh-duhh-obviously-gif-16794513

[minor plaza]

Ok so completely unrelated but I'm just scratching my back rn and apparently there's a pimple back there

[vocal nacelle]

high diff AI director have unhinged special limit and spawn system

[minor plaza]

I am now in very severe pain

I shall blame fat shark

[vocal nacelle]

you can get 4 bulwark 12 rager 6 crusher 12 shotgunner 4 reaper 1 plague ogryn 6 mutant/bomber/pox etc

[keen flume]

We like our AI director in this house

[keen flume]

nothing compared to high havoc director

[minor plaza]

Yay

[keen flume]

Waiter, drop 1 captain, 1 twins, 2 plague ogryns and 1 beast of nurgle

All at once

Also theres a DH ritual

good luck

[minor plaza]

Uhhh whatever is like right after heresy I played Once and it sucked

[little coyote]

Doable

[minor plaza]

I think I had a beast of nurgle and an plague ogryn

[keen flume]

Damnation

[minor plaza]

Christ spelling ogryn is terrifying

I really hate autocorrect

[keen flume]

[little coyote]

Focus on twins, one at a time. Both die before shield recharge and then kill the plogryns, then the beast leaving the slow cap last

bish bash bosh

[keen flume]

Bubble psyker

I see this as a big win

Destroy rodin plasma shots, beast puke attack while inside the shield

[little coyote]

it is very good yeah

[minor plaza]

Guess who just forgot about this already, man I think this is a sign for me to finally go off and sleep

[vocal nacelle]

this is what happen if you ignore the stop sign , the monster spawn bomb will explode

[warped basin]

I love havoc/auric players doing their own thing in my damnation lobbies sprinting ahead spawning everything, it's the best thing ever

[stoic locust]

Damnation is basically a playground

[chrome vapor]

need advice with getting rolls on my curios, is there an optimal way of getting higher rolls? (i.e. +3 stamina, got plenty of +2 stams and 16% tou rolls)
so far i'm just playing the game normally on auric maels, and the occasional sire melk gambling

[stoic locust]

It also queues worse than auric

Auric is probably easier purely because of the player pool

[stoic locust]

Yeah, just camping the armory and gambling at melk

If you want a ballpark it took me like 20k melkbux to roll up three 17% toughness curios on arbitrator

[chrome vapor]

crashing out on missing the last 3%

[chrome vapor]

no sire melk, i refuse to pick up any of the 16 grimoires or whatever tome you wanted!

[stoic locust]

Just reroll those

First one is free and second is like 25k dockets

Or 2.5k

[chrome vapor]

ya, out here sitting at 4k waiting for the next contract drops contemplating what to do. this is so sad

i'm this close to dropping one of my defensive perks on my curios for that sweet 60% curio reward, still, gambling as well

[faint perch]

That's amazing if you can. I can do havoc with my zealot, but I couldn't that early

[prisma fable]

Does anyone know how the hell to beat hardmode karnak twins? Got into this game late and only learned about it now

[strange thunder]

usually with a good premade team, ogryn with shield or pickaxe works p well

[vocal nacelle]

get ogryn + zealot

or arbites

[fickle ether]

Just summon ainz they'll solo it

[prisma fable]

Yeah I think I need to find a good ogryn player

I got REALLY close last night with randoms

[vocal nacelle]

i can help if you are on asia region

[prisma fable]

I'm in Europe unfortunately, but I appreciate the offer

[rigid gazelle]

Best perks for braced autogun?

[little coyote]

The two that give power and damage on close range kill iirc

sorry, perks

uhh

[vocal nacelle]

the ol reliable flak maniac

[little coyote]

flak and maniac

yeah

[chrome vapor]

anyone can explain how haymaker works? does it proc individually per target(s) hit? or i gamble 20%, swing and sweep everything in one-go?

[vocal nacelle]

per enemy hit have chance to trigger

[chrome vapor]

[vocal nacelle]

it doesnt get affected by target cap but affected by cleave

[chrome vapor]

neat, thanks! didnt know abt the cleave one being a thing

[rigid gazelle]

In general or just for veteran? Cuz I'm doing this for zealot

[rigid gazelle]

You were mentioning blessings? Wouldn't the two that make you immune to range dmg better? ....for zealot*

[little coyote]

yeah, blessings. Personally I prefer damage over defense when you can dodge most of the ranged damage that'll be coming your way anyways. What was the criteria for the immunity to proc? Just kills?

[rigid gazelle]

For the immunity blessings? One was for running while having stam over 50, the other was immune for 1s on range kill

[little coyote]

They're fine I guess but I still prefer the extra killing power

especially how zealot doesn't have many other ways of buffing ranged damage iirc

[rigid gazelle]

Not really good at dodging anything 😓. So I thought of just using it as a stack stick for more defense

[little coyote]

Of course it comes down to preference

[rigid gazelle]

Would probably use my knives for range dmg

Thank you for the help tho

[little coyote]

np np

[vocal nacelle]

Yes

[rigid gazelle]

Alright 👌. Now are those perks best on all weapons?

[void forge]

No, of course not

Sorry that was needlessly condescending

But different weapons will want other perks for breakpoints and just serving different purposes

[rigid gazelle]

I just started playing a week ago. I barely made it to auric 🥹

So those perks are best on guns, Not melee?

[void forge]

It's really about what you want to do with the weapon

If you just want an all round good weapon that will be effective against most targets, flak and maniac is fine

But for something like a flamer, you may want it for a specific purpose like groups of bulwarks or something, in which case you would take unyielding and flak

Just as an example

Then there is something like the combat axe, which you might want to take unarmored on because it enables you to hit the one hit headshot on bruisers for brutal momentum

All this to say, there is no standard "these perks are best for all weapons"

[rigid gazelle]

I'm still iffy on knowing who's a flak enemy and who's a carapace one

[void forge]

There are only like 3 enemies that are cara, crushers(whole body), maulers (head), and scab ragers (everywhere but the head)

I think bulwark has a cara shoulder too

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies

[rigid gazelle]

I see.

I'll bookmark that. Thank you

[vocal nacelle]

depends on the weapon, most ranged use that

exception is like plasma, bolter, flamer

[broken raft]

Not all weapons have the same perks

For most weapons the best perks/combos are in the class guides

[plush stream]

im trying to entreat my executioner shotgun to hadron and its not coming up in the menue, could anyone assist me?

[strange thunder]

you have it equipped somewhere maybe

it also needs to be above gray in rarity

[plush stream]

ah i see

should probably stop playing melee only lol

thank you

[abstract yarrow]

i realize this may be a broad question but i’m having trouble climbing out of havoc 24-25 and i can’t figure out why. i play mainly zealot and arbitrator and typically prioritize protecting teammates, disabling zoning/cc/gunner specialists and securing escape routes but something almost always goes wrong and i don’t know if it’s because i’m doing one or more of those improperly, shouldn’t be doing some of those at all or if it’s just bad matchmaking luck. if anyone has recommended build paths or if i should find a group of people who can play this game and communicate better i would appreciate any input

[feral walrus]

its really hard to say but at 24-25 i'd say its less to do with bad teammates, if i had to give a guess its bad positioning, in addition if your playing support your gonna be low impact, i'd recommend playing more impactfully at the lower havocs.

[abstract yarrow]

i can try higher impact builds, i'm not sure if positioning is a huge issue- usually when i get downed it's either because i'm the second to last or last person to get downed during a nasty chain of monstrosity spawns or specialist horde... unless there's more to it than running circuits exploiting corners and retreating to covered areas when waves get too big to handle while generally staying in a group?

asking on account of i'm still relatively new to havoc haha

[broken raft]

Are you helping your teammates?

[rigid gazelle]

Class guides? Where's that?

[clear plume]

in each class chat pins they have their own community build guide for that class

[rigid gazelle]

Oooh. That's cool, I'll check that out. Thankies 🫰

[abstract yarrow]

constantly lol

[broken raft]

go into one of the class channels and look at the pinned messages

[rigid gazelle]

[potent mulch]

is there a way to "auto update" mods?

I hate always downloading and replacing "already existing" folders

[prisma plinth]

Can anyone who plays the ps5 version of darktide vouch for its smooth running?

I’m on pc, but it feels so fragile to keep running optimally

[balmy moat]

theres also no slowmode here

should be easier to talk

[mighty terrace]

Cool

So

The game was taking super long to load

Then i downloaded it on my ssd

It still takes long

And it eventualy crashes

I log in, create the character

Then it goes like something disk files forever

[balmy moat]

you mentioned you did verify game files, did you try a full reinstall?

just curious

[mighty terrace]

Not yet

But i dont see that changing anything honestly

[vocal nacelle]

PC?

[mighty terrace]

Since i already installed it twice today

[mighty terrace]

Yeaj

Yeah

[vocal nacelle]

try updating driver or revert to previous version

https://support.fatshark.se/hc/en-us/articles/7709667528349--PC-How-to-Resolve-GPU-Crashes-in-Darktide

any error when starting??

[mighty terrace]

Good idea

[mighty terrace]

I tried some of those

[mighty terrace]

Nope, the skull loading thing spins super fast though when the game starts

Thats all ive noticed

[balmy moat]

hows your internet?

[mighty terrace]

Fine

[balmy moat]

do you use a vpn or nah?

[mighty terrace]

No i dont

Ngl im just fucking sad

I cant even get my money back on this

Lol

[balmy moat]

do you have the crash logs?

[mighty terrace]

They display a message like it was impossible to register log or something like that

[vocal nacelle]

are you using mods?

[mighty terrace]

No, just installed the base game

[vocal nacelle]

so you crash on character screen?

[mighty terrace]

I crash when im supposed to go to the prologue

On the loading that has a Planet image and a ship

[vocal nacelle]

loading screen crash thats rare

[balmy moat]

could you try making another character and skip the prologue? just to see if its prologue specific?

[vocal nacelle]

are you on steam or gamepass?

[mighty terrace]

I wonder if my ssd is too slow for this game

Steam

[vocal nacelle]

if you are on steam try the memory leak fix

put this on steam launcher

--lua-heap-mb-size 2048

[mighty terrace]

Ill try that tomorrow for sure

Im not gonna try it today

Got a headache already lol

[balmy moat]

i feel you, this sucks :( its a good game

[mighty terrace]

But i Will try all the things you guys tell me

I Love pc but sometimes i hate having to fix a game so i can play it

[river plaza]

You've played successfully before?

[balmy moat]

i believe they had just gotten the game, but, through the attempts spent the usual 2hr window troubleshooting

[feral walrus]

its not your positioning per say but your team position, the idea is to make sure your team is not flanked, in general retreat until you have secured your flanks and all enemies are coming in one direction, if you think you are always the last one down then try more damage focused builds and less survivability focused builds that have impact, killing enemies before they kill your team, you will have better luck in havoc that way, as dps is a big factor as well.

[astral salmon]

only got 6 achievements left
not sure how to do some of these, especially that stun grenade one

[vocal nacelle]

throw multiple nades at horde

use evis or the relic blade

[strange thunder]

flamer is way easier

on overwatch only requires you to not take health damage in melee, which isn't that hard (tho was even easier with old VoC)

gone bowling is easier on auric/havoc, can also do mortis trials on some good chokepoint

rest just happen eventually with enough consistency/horde sizes

[mighty terrace]

its time to try fixing the game again lets gooo

[void forge]

For serial killer just brainburst 20 enemies in a row

Frenzied killer and shocking stuff are pretty easy to get with a well placed stun grenade on a horde

And a flamer, as mentioned above

There is a mod that tracks your kill streak which can make it easier to know how far off you are from completing those penances too

[astral salmon]

i forgot that was even a thing omg brb

bam

generally what i've been using to try and get the stun grenade one on zealot

[strange thunder]

you can also team up with another zealot for help since their stun grenades are also fine

[astral salmon]

eh, agoraphobia

[mighty terrace]

@vocal nacelle @balmy moat i tried it again now the game said out of memory

[vocal nacelle]

try this

[mighty terrace]

log said page file is too small

at least now the log said something

[vocal nacelle]

Page file? Whats your pc spec

[mighty terrace]

idk whats a paging file

[mighty terrace]

ryzen 5 5500, 16 gb ram, rx 7600

[vocal nacelle]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/lua-ram-issues-crashing-please-help-me-brand-new-game/104567/10

First time i saw this kind of error

[mighty terrace]

@vocal nacelle i got past the loading once

But the game runs like absolute shit

Lol

[vocal nacelle]

Should fix itself after couple mission, building shader n stuff

Or it's running integrated gpu

[mighty terrace]

I dont have integrated

[mighty terrace]

Im not sure if thats the case here

Ill keep looking up later

[vocal nacelle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1fl790a/amd_performance_fix_guide/

[cloud adder]

upon killing another enemy, with same conidtions, the 6s reset and there is no cooldown for the ally until Covering Fire can trigger again=?

[polar forum]

no cd, can be refreshed while active

still sucks though

[cloud adder]

why?

[polar forum]

talents in general that do nothing for yourself are bad

[cloud adder]

nah ^^

buffs the teammates and thats worth it

[mighty terrace]

I had to lower my gpu clock on adrenalin for space marine 2, im wondering if thats the issue

[polar forum]

your call

but my team benefits more

when i pick talents that benefit myself

so i can carry their sorry asses harder

[keen flume]

This shit bleak
Wdym that only my teammates get the buff when it was me who done the kill smh

[cloud adder]

15% to all base damage for a teammate sounds good
gives them the extra edge to cut through I think

[keen flume]

Yes but no buff for yourself is just funny stupid
Nothing really worth to pick any talents that don't apply buff for you but just your teammates that isn't aura of course

[cloud adder]

Depending on build I think
Im not a good player, so I rather like to buff the team, so they can do the work faster

[fickle ether]

I mean it could be worded bad and give you the buff aswell knowing FS

[cloud adder]

Fatshark not having clear descriptions will never be changed I guess..

[rancid heart]

So for the amount of time I've been playing this game for, I never understood why you can buy things from Sire Melk. Is it like, a chance for god roll weapon stats without wasting materials to upgrade?

[balmy moat]

generally for starting stuff out, yeah, its also a nice way to gear up new characters without wasting ordo/plas/dia while you level up, but, otherwise, its just useful for the weirdos like me who level up and delete throwaway characters for fun

[rancid heart]

Fair enough

[balmy moat]

cant use the melk bucks for anything else, so might as well spend them somehow,

[rancid heart]

If there was a way to reroll stats to get a good dumpstat that'd be nice, but then the brunt armory would be useless instead.

[balmy moat]

i wish they'd actually have him sell something consumable, or something. something you can bring to your next mission maybe, with scum being able to bring their own stim, perhaps let him sell normal stims and people can bring one normal one in with them or something starting out. would be great for QP hot drops

or, an extra grenade for certain classes, or literally any money sink for the currency

[rancid heart]

Like Back 4 Blood's burn card system maybe?

Just less abundant?

[balmy moat]

its at the point where i can just go buy weapons from him then sell them for the other 3 currencies

[rancid heart]

fr

[mighty terrace]

Back to trying to fix the game so i can play it

Lets gooooo

[balmy moat]

heres hoping

[mighty terrace]

I really want to be able to play this

And eventually get the dlc because the class looks like judge dredd

[balmy moat]

did you try installing it on something other than your SSD? you mentioned it might be too slow to run it so am curious if you've tried yet

i think you mentioned you did but not sure

[mighty terrace]

the other option would be hdd

thats where i first installed it and it had the same error

i just reinstalled amd drivers

lets see...

should i update windows if that doesnt work?

i honestly dont know if it makes a difference

[craggy minnow]

Back before the current version of crafting it was one of the best ways to unlock rare blessings or just shop for good weapons
Now its mostly useless besides starting new weapons and buying curios for perfect ones

It is the only way to mass procure curios if you really want 17 toughness or 21 hp curios

[balmy moat]

ye idk if that would matter, i dont update windows often and i dont have this issue

[mighty terrace]

it seems to be running

its just running poorly

i had to make the game run on super low and on 1600x900

[balmy moat]

do you have DLSS on?

[mighty terrace]

im on amd and i turned off fsr

[balmy moat]

how does it look in task manager?

[mighty terrace]

i think i cant send the image here

[balmy moat]

not yet, need the red name

[mighty terrace]

can i send you on dm?

[balmy moat]

ye

[velvet dagger]

did you change the number of worker threads?

[mighty terrace]

set it to 2

read about it somewhere

did i do something wrong?

[velvet dagger]

it should be either the same or 1 less than the number of cores ideally

2 sounds a bit low

[mighty terrace]

OH

[velvet dagger]

you're running DT on 2 cores pretty much
no wonder it's slowed down

[mighty terrace]

to be fair the game wasnt even loading properly before i changed that

i just read it somewhere and did it lol

ill change it

[velvet dagger]

what was it set at 9?

[mighty terrace]

i dont think so

oh yeah it was 9

when i set to default thats what it shows

[velvet dagger]

yeah, it's trying to run itself on cores that don't exist, which is causing a problem

go down to like 6 or 5

most systems have at least that many

[mighty terrace]

i thought my processor had 12 threads

now im confused

[velvet dagger]

I dunno what the specs of your rig are, but if it has 12 then 9 shouldn't have been a problem

might want to look it up

[mighty terrace]

it has 12

ryzen 5 5500

would 9 be ok or should i change that?

[velvet dagger]

huh. maybe bumping it up to 12 or 11 might be better

but if that's true 9 shouldn't have been an issue so idk what's going on with your machine

[mighty terrace]

yeah its even worse now

[velvet dagger]

I looked up the Ryzen 5500 specs.

Ryzen 5500 has 12 threads but 6 cores

You want to put in the number of cores into the threads bit, so try 5 or 6.

[mighty terrace]

oh so in working threads i should put the number of cores not threads

[velvet dagger]

yeah

[mighty terrace]

thats awesome

[velvet dagger]

in laymans terms, you were maxing out the entire PC to run Darktide, and it can't do that while running everything else like the BIOS etc.
which is probably why the entire thing started to run like crap

[mighty terrace]

so the game defaulting it to 9 was just wrong

[velvet dagger]

yes, it's set too high

you might also want to check msconfig > boot > advanced options > "Number of processors" (checkbox is unchecked)

PC might be limiting the number of processors it can use by default, which might cause the game to run slow

although if you've never touched that setting it should be unchecked by default

[mighty terrace]

GUID: 70184e0d-149b-4c63-8d92-df46f9cbf6db
Log File:
Info Type:

[Script Error]: Deadlock detected. Update was not called for 15.3009711 seconds. Triggering crash inside Lua: scripts/extension_systems/luggable/luggable_extension.lua:0:

[velvet dagger]

your PC basically froze for 15 secs

how hot is your rig at the moment?

this can happen if you haven't got it ventilated

[mighty terrace]

its not hot at all

[velvet dagger]

might be a driver problem then

are all your graphic card drivers up to date?

[mighty terrace]

yeah i reinstalled too

[velvet dagger]

okay, then we might have to rely on the nuclear option from Fatshark's engineers

[vocal nacelle]

it might be because its too up to date

[velvet dagger]

go to Steam\steamapps\common\Warhammer 40,000 DARKTIDE\bundle\application_settings, and then change deadlock_detector_enabled = true to deadlock_detector_enabled = false in the win32_settings.ini

[vocal nacelle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1j7v5m6/finally_got_rid_of_all_the_stutters_in_the_game/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1fhr9bl/potential_fix_for_stuttering/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1fl790a/amd_performance_fix_guide/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1gcih11/for_amd_gpusers_consider_trying_driver_2471_to/

try this first

[mighty terrace]

Prologue wont load at 6 threads

It was better at 2 i just dont know how to explain it

[velvet dagger]

might be a memory problem

Rhyzen 5500 reviews says its memory is crap

[mighty terrace]

Game is supposed to run on a ryzen 2400 g though

[vocal nacelle]

darktide is hostile on AMD hardware

[mighty terrace]

im close to giving up on this ngl

[vocal nacelle]

cant blame you

[mighty terrace]

Get a new pc, buy a game, wont fucking work

This shit ran space marine 2 just fine

i think thats it

5.4 hours on the game

couldnt even play the prologue

maybe ill try it again some other day

idk

[velvet dagger]

verify files, check drivers again, turn everything onto low in the menu settings

after that I think your best chance is posting the cache logs on FatShark forums might get a rep to help you

[pseudo stag]

i dont know where to post this but why cant i bind some of my extra buttons on my mouse

it has like forward/back buttons but i can only bind one of them

it worked fine on my trackball before

[velvet dagger]

you should be able to
I had crouch and alt mapped to my forwards and back buttons

[pseudo stag]

okay i fixed it but it was kinda jank

[odd idol]

Looking for poeple to hel with some penances

[chrome vapor]

are captains considered as monstrosities or they're two separate things?

[shadow skiff]

Different.

[polar glade]

how do the pox gas modifier vents trigger and whats the general strat for dealing with them? Stay back, rush ahead or try find the clear patches?

[fickle ether]

They go off at a set time normally enough time to get through the gas zone. Depending on map some gas zones can be massive so it depends if you want to rush through it or pull stuff and wait for the next opening. Something of note the respawn totems are always a clear spot for gas so you can always chill next to one if your in a gas zone.

[cloud adder]

how does this work?
Why are some Parties without any Havoc Rank and Modifiers?
And for Havoc, there is no Quick Play?

[polar forum]

No QP. You gotta use the shitty ass party finder.

Or have a premade group

[clear plume]

This is because of how they listed their party

They selected only the havoc tab not their rank

[cloud adder]

So.. its a Gamble.. hmm

[keen flume]

Hope you like sitting your ass for 10-20 mins looking for a high havoc party

[cloud adder]

I have to get above 20 first

[rigid gazelle]

I'd would like custom binding in the game for controllers 😞

[gaunt lark]

For the Mk VI combat blade, what has more reliable backstab DPS? (assuming you can land headshots through the backshots):
push stab spam - requires a push, which does no damage and drains stamina, but is fairly fast and pretty easy to hit heads through bodies with
punch > 3x heavies - requires a punch, which does little damage, but followup combo has a fast overhead and a regular overhead, making it easy to hit the head from behind
regular heavy spam - harder to land first two attacks on the head from behind, but requires no setup/downtime
a combination of the others - something like punch heavy combo with a push stab cancel at the end?

[smoky ember]

push attack spam is best, then punch heavy spam

[gaunt lark]

Thank you

[vagrant oak]

Is it this thing that is sometimes causing me to crash to desktop if the game freezes?

[velvet dagger]

depends

are you getting a crash reort that contains the word "deadlock detected"?

[vagrant oak]

yea, happening now more after recent updates, but Im gonna put together a new pc soon anyway, bit annoying until then

[velvet dagger]

it is the nuclear option, however, so you should really try everything else before that i.e. drivers, verify files, restart, reduce graphics quality, mods etc.

[vestal sail]

So i know it's not related but uuuh

It's those rodents

Messing up my downloads

YOU WILL FEEL MY WRATH

[keen flume]

https://tenor.com/view/vermintide-sigmar-rat-talking-rat-gif-9226553069204659438

[vestal sail]

Who have it worse

The Cultists against the gang in Darktide

Or the Rats against the group in Vermintide 2

[keen flume]

Remember its four of us agaisnt a thousand of them

I like those odds

[tidal citrus]

What's the best way to get the no melee damage for veteran and the best gun to use for the 90% accuracy?

[patent jasper]

for 90% accuracy spam aimed shots with db shotgun

and VoC with gold toughness is probably the easiest ability to use for no mele dmg

[tidal citrus]

Voc?

[patent jasper]

voice of command

his middle ability

with the left subnode

[keen flume]

Shout that will stagger all enemies

[tidal citrus]

Huh i was trying to fo it with stealth lmao

[keen flume]

You can do but might be a more tough one

[tidal citrus]

Doesn't help that i keep getting groups in the middle of matchs ;-;

[keen flume]

Golden toughness on VoC just grants you an opportunity for get an hit without taking health damage

[tidal citrus]

And that doesn't count towards the penince?

[keen flume]

There still some enemy attacks that will bypass golden toughness as far i know like maulers and crushers overheads

[keen flume]

Will still count
Been a while since I completed but just as long you dont any health damage you are good

[tidal citrus]

Weird just because to me how it's worded it's like i can't be hit by melee

If that's the case i just needed to get an actual game that i start lmaoo

Keep getting those games i hop in

[cinder dune]

where can you play rolling steel? or is it only a rotating mission? just asking bc i dont see it on the campaign list

[strange thunder]

rotating ye

it's not really story related so

[keen flume]

rotating

Not available on campaign weird enough

[cinder dune]

damn it 😭

[warped basin]

what's the idea behind my teammate taking the last med charge when he wasn't on his last wound and I was? not empty, purple

[fickle ether]

Greed

[strange thunder]

bad players on usually lower difficulties

[keen flume]

Darktide players

[warped basin]

ya I figured, dude even made sure to do it right in front of me

god I gotta start blocking players more often

[polar forum]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-darktide-get-away-shoo-disappear-gif-5683568285290773389

[keen flume]

did he snapped his back when looking at you

[polar forum]

average pubby

prob doesn't even know what they did

[fickle ether]

Barrel troll them off the map

[keen flume]

Having to block someone over a med take is a funny behaviour lol

[polar forum]

i call out people for exploding bursters on me

and 80% of the time they don't even know they did it

and they act like bitches

[keen flume]

[warped basin]

I don't have to, I want to

[keen flume]

"You walked into it!"

[fickle ether]

Done that a fair amount of times myself gotta hit them with the mb

[polar forum]

like i know accidents happen, just say "srry" or "mb"

i've done it by accident too

i always apologize

not that hard

[keen flume]

You dont get it, apologizing makes you weak

There cant be any weak players or will be looked down on you

[warped basin]

I just don't have the patience to have to overfocus when I have all these lvl 30s-40s prob playing damnation for the first time when they should still be at psykanium

thinning the numbers is bound to do at least marginally more than doing nothing about it

[strange thunder]

auric is the great filter

true level also helps

[covert forum]

Do relics stack? Or is it a waste taking stuff twice on different relics?

[keen flume]

what relics?

[velvet dagger]

probably talking about curios

[covert forum]

That’s the ones

[velvet dagger]

they stack additively (i.e. 12% revive speed + 12% revive speed = 24% revive speed)

[keen flume]

Yeah

[clear plume]

all but Ddamage reduction

[keen flume]

Except few of them

[velvet dagger]

aww, so stacking three gunner DR isn't 60% DR?

[clear plume]

no

its ~49%

46-49 iirc

dont remember exact numbers

[velvet dagger]

so 2 DR = ~36% DR...

I guess 2 Gunner DR and 1 Bomber DR might be better then

[keen flume]

lets be honest theres no other DR perk besides gunner

[covert forum]

I’ve done something and cocked mine up here like

Used to be decently tough but now I’m made of tissue with my arbite

[rapid saddle]

should i just demote now h31

[last mauve]

Stealth zealot run through in 10 minutes

Since its enclavum

[velvet quiver]

since when is this plague Final Toll a thing again?!

green stimm and blue stimm did almost the same exact thing, no?

does it go into a double negative now and they stagger themselves or what?! like those goats that faint death every time a loud noise pops and just stiffen up and fall to the ground...

https://tenor.com/view/goat-play-dead-jump-gif-17529828

[rapid saddle]

i got a team that managed to do it

but yeah fighting nurgle's chosen rager/mauler/crusher/etc. that's pox gassed + blue stimmed and enraged is definitely an experience

[iron helm]

How does the Auspex mini game work (The one with the circles that are red)

[vocal nacelle]

Switch when red click when white

[balmy moat]

and it keeps the same pattern until its completed, so if you get jostled you can just go straight to where you were if you remember the spots

[trim sonnet]

anyone wanna help me getting the bellpuzzle?

not the fight just the unlock for now xD

appearently can only be done in private games ;_;

[strange thunder]

if someone has unlocked hard mode they can just transport you to the fight and when completed you get the hard mode unlock penance as well

so easier to just find a group that wants to run hard mode

[trim sonnet]

but

i am too weak for that hardmode yet

😄

[strange thunder]

then just wait

[trim sonnet]

:c

[polar glade]

Whats generally the best havoc support build/character?

[arctic locust]

book zealot, bubble psyker, slab ogryn maybe

tho id say book zealot overall since you can do without but its pretty nice with

[shadow skiff]

You can also choose to summon Ainz to help with it if he's free if you live or is willing to stay up for US timezone.

[faint perch]

I don't have a problem as such, but are there any little known tips or tricks in Darktide that if other people knew would probably make them better players?

like one I learned from Six recently is that it's possible to parry enemies behind you

for an increased stamina cost

[languid jewel]

That one was pretty big for me

[faint perch]

absolutely game changing

[languid jewel]

And the direction you slide matters ir you dodge or not. Or the direction you sprint.

There was this picturr once

[faint perch]

i had heard that sprinting on a slight angle to enemies makes you significantly harder to hit, but I didn't know about sliding

[languid jewel]

And that theres a fckn dodge limit

[languid jewel]

For example if you slide away at wrong angle from crusher itll still hit

[pastel forge]

Weong

[languid jewel]

If you aprint ata certain angle youll count as dodging

[languid jewel]

Forgive me my fingers are dirty af

Honestly loads of shit i only learned in the discord.

[faint perch]

this is great. thanks. I'm going to be making good use of all tips

yeah, I learned a lot here to, but I think I must have missed the vast majority

[languid jewel]

I just forget

[faint perch]

I have this silly idea to make a mod that gives playing tips based on player behaviour, to make them more skilled. Without doing anything that gives an unfair advantage. More like "hey bud, maybe stop shooting barrels next to teammates" (but more professional)

[pastel forge]

If player_dead equals true
Write "skill issue"

[faint perch]

the mod is literally called GitGud lol

The main purpose is because my family are painfully slow at improving and kinda holding me back. So I figured this might help. and if it helps them, it might help other people too

but still lots of work to do and it might not even work out and get released

ok, I can't confirm (yet), but I just heard you can block while reviving someone

[pastel forge]

Ye

[shadow skiff]

You automatically do it anyway. But it doesn't work with weapon bonuses like deflector.

[faint perch]

i didn't know that. i thought we were just tanking the hits

so i clear an area best i can before reviving

[shadow skiff]

You still should clear as much but try if it gets to a point. Is basically a team effort to pick up for most part.

[faint perch]

luckily i usually play as zealot, so if 2 of us rush to revive i can just use chorus and let them get the revive safely

[shadow skiff]

Yeah. That's a way. Shockmines also help for it.

[faint perch]

nice idea. i can tell my sister. she mains arbi

[shadow skiff]

Is why arbies can solo rescue if they can clear to the next rescue point. Drop a shock mine and it will last long enough to pick up everyone.

[rancid heart]

I've played this game for a long time, but still can't seem to understand why a random poxwalker will sometimes chunk half of my hp with a single hit at seemingly random.

[void forge]

Did you have no toughness

[rancid heart]

No, I have 182 toughness on my Vet

I would have full toughness when I suddenly get chunked by a poxwalker and die.

It makes no sense.

[void forge]

Poxwalkers do around 60 damage per hit without taking into account damage reductions

It's likely you were hit multiple times in quick succession then

Or you didn't realize how much toughness you had at the moment of the hit

[smoky ember]

you still should, but if theres only a few chaff, or you have a lot of stamina, you can usually stick it out

but if you take health damage, the revive gets interuptted

[iron helm]

What vendor takes adamantine and plasteel?

[stoic locust]

hadron

[tidal citrus]

What's the recommended perk set up for a recon lazgun build? / what recon i should use with what perks

[prisma jungle]

Usually, you want Dumdum + Infernus

practically every build will call for that, regardless if its psyk or vet

[stiff kernel]

blessings

[balmy moat]

flak unyielding usually i think

unyielding for certain, other one depends

i have maniac on mine for bubbleknight psyker

[prisma jungle]

right yeah

unyielding and the other is dealer's choice

[tidal citrus]

Oh and i should mention I'm a vet

[tidal citrus]

Gotcha gotcha ngl i like the idea that i have a lazgun minigun🤣

[prisma jungle]

Be sure to take that one perk on the left bottom side that makes you a scab gunner

if ya havent already kek

[tidal citrus]

Storm tropper yep

[gaunt lark]

at the mission terminal, what is the icon under some missions that looks like a skull with plant branches to the sides and chevrons underneath?

[vocal nacelle]

highest difficulty you completed on that mission

will get fancier if you play damnation/auric

[gaunt lark]

thank you

[rigid gazelle]

What do I do with curios that I don't want?

[clear plume]

sell them

[rigid gazelle]

[normal flame]

whats up with crushers not having sound effects when theyre behind you?

[polar forum]

game working as intended

[stoic locust]

They have footsteps, voice lines, and attack lines

All of which are bassy and get drowned out

[clear plume]

the game can only play so many sounds at once, and some things will stop making sounds if things get too hectic. but yes, the footsteps are really quiet

[stoic locust]

I forget if they make a noise when they aggro you like chaos warriors

[balmy moat]

they do have sound, even behind, but ye when its this quiet vs something like auric HISTG/havoc its a losing battle

[keen flume]

Usually I hear them the most of them grunting when winding an overhead and their laugh

The footsteps only happen when is quiet for me

[normal flame]

ive had two games in a row where two people have died from crushers that didnt come from the front, or behind but... the side?

would yall happen to know if the explosion from the bolt pistol applies bleed to secondary targets?

[polar forum]

nope

[normal flame]

would be neat if so, im thinking extra dmg vs staggered would be best

[balmy moat]

does not

[faint perch]

It would be nice if we had finer control over audio elements, so we could boost the sounds of more dangerous enemies

[normal flame]

is there a good resource for how "threat" works? it seems random when gunners or ragers will target you

[vocal nacelle]

mix of LoS, slot system and distance?

[languid jewel]

Well fatshark COULD try and explain their game mechanics INGAME

Cause after 1000 hours i have no fckn clue how threat works at all.

[vocal nacelle]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/darktide-101-enemy-design-and-prototyping-dev-blog/98452

[stoic locust]

Its evil dark magic that makes the game very cpu heavy

[vocal nacelle]

also AI director being moody

sometimes he loves you and he will shove every elite/special he can find

[keen flume]

I like that they used the VT2 assets for the prototype

This game sure changed a lot

for better and for worse

[little coyote]

wdym for worse

[vocal nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMyj86_ZWW8 im glad FS didnt use bulwark as mutant it would be scary

[keen flume]

Thats horrifying

Imagine actually getting an Ogryn that actively charges on you

Does not disable you but keeps shoving

[keen flume]

yes

[vocal nacelle]

poxburster

[keen flume]

Aw hell nah

Darktide players worst fear

Barrels

[balmy moat]

hole in one

[keen flume]

Even the arbites was just looking lmao

[balmy moat]

idk what it is but actually SEEING someone actively be barreled is like watching a car crash

[keen flume]

It is always the ragdoll animations

[vocal nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HZL4rwNOVY yooo that power sword speed and power up

[keen flume]

That makes it worth watching and laugh

[keen flume]

Thats quite raw hang on

[balmy moat]

just, barrels and spectators

[keen flume]

Unfortunate timing for that ogryn

[balmy moat]

very xD

[keen flume]

And he typed whatever it was on russian in chat LOL

[fickle ether]

Damn sigmar blessed the fuck out of saltz wtf

[keen meteor]

is there really any point in having a relic at 500 power vs like 430 if both have the same bonuses?

[balmy moat]

stats

[keen meteor]

yeah but is there any difference between a 500pwr relic with +1 Wound and a 430pwr relic with +1 Wound?

[balmy moat]

oh curios

no, you cant get a 500 curio

[faint perch]

The only time it matters is 410+ for stamina

[balmy moat]

the number doesnt really matter except to indicate at a glance what it does

[keen meteor]

god fucking damn it i spent so much melkbux trying for 500

[balmy moat]

the good news you can turn around and get ordo for them

not much but, some

[keen meteor]

yea i already sold most of them since they were 410 and not higher

[balmy moat]

you only need 2 wound curios for a marty anyway so if thats what youre building thats all you need to keep

f

[keen meteor]

yea, i already have 2 wounds on my martyr its just that they werent at 500

[faint perch]

410 stamina is +3
400 stamina is +2 but says +3

[balmy moat]

400 does not always say +3 but if it does it lies

[faint perch]

I like having lots of extra strong curios for ease of switching builds

[inland lichen]

Anyone have a table for base toughness/hp values per havoc level per class?

[faint perch]

i wasn't aware havoc changed class stats, other than the number of wounds

[inland lichen]

Hidden modifiers reduce your hp/toughness to a fraction of the original. Gets worse the higher it is.

[faint perch]

I don't know if that info is listed anywhere. I just know the default stats can be found here: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/classes

[inland lichen]

Thanks.

[inland lichen]

Wait. What interaction do curios have with those modifiers? Are those modifiers applied before or after curio bonuses?

[patent jasper]

Sorry for delay, but for toughness it is applied before and for health it’s applied at the same time of curio bonuses

[lime idol]

HP x (1 - havoc modifier + curio modifier)

(Base TGH + tree TGH - havoc modifier) x (1 + curio modifier)

[inland lichen]

So uh... How many max health curios do you take if you want to optimally have as many procs of True Grit with arby, as possible?

[lime idol]

3

[lethal slate]

anyone know how to shove/push block reliably while carrying a battery? Feels like I end up throwing it most times

[strange thunder]

shove is just having stamina available

p sure it's just rmb

[keen flume]

Same as normal push bind

Carrying objects does little knockback in comparasion and takes more stamina I believe

[lethal slate]

ah its probs me having no stamina

[keen flume]

I just prefer to drop them in the middle of hordesz clear out and pick it up again

[strange thunder]

I only shove when there's very few and I have teammates coming to back me up

I'm prob much more likely to just going for some slides to run away fast enough

[jaunty shuttle]

What's the second best class for melee besides ogryn? I got 30th lvl as him and i'd like to try someone else

[clear plume]

best in what way?

all classes destory everything in melee

[jaunty shuttle]

So all classes can be done as good melee users?

[clear plume]

yes

[stoic locust]

Yes

Its how these games work

[clear plume]

it all comes down to playstyle

all classes can be melee, frontliner, special sniper, range focus

there are no determined class roles

all classes do everything

[vocal nacelle]

If you build it right

[jaunty shuttle]

Well, then i guess i'll try psyker

[clear plume]

well that is the best melee damage class

[stoic locust]

Psyker melee is goofy shit

[clear plume]

so go for it

[stoic locust]

You demolish everything as long as you can keep yourself alive

[jaunty shuttle]

Usually in such a games i've problems with staying alive, that's why my first class here was ogryn

[stoic locust]

If you want to learn melee fundamentals in a semi low risk environment then try zealot

[vocal nacelle]

Dodge issue

[stoic locust]

Zealot let's you make mistakes but plays like the other humans and doesn't have the advantages ogryn has

[jaunty shuttle]

Why would i even dodge when i've toughness and block

Also - throwing rock is faster than changing to your firearm

[stoic locust]

This might be the problem

[vocal nacelle]

That's one way ticket to staring at the ground

Block not that effective in DT, VT2 block is better

[patent jasper]

Please don’t tell me you try and block overheads / dogs / nets?

[vocal nacelle]

Or tanking poxburster

[jaunty shuttle]

No, i just kill marauders as ogryn, while i usually get caught by dog/nets

[vocal nacelle]

Console or pc?

[patent jasper]

yea dodging is kinda important in this game

[jaunty shuttle]

pc

[jaunty shuttle]

That's something i should learn about before getting to 30th lvl i guess

[lime idol]

U can practice with creature spawner mod

[vocal nacelle]

No reason you can't dodge, learn dodge

[stoic locust]

Yeah dodging is your primary method of avoiding damage

[patent jasper]

dodging helps you avoid many problems, I’d recommend putting jump and dodge on different buttons just so you don’t panic jump instead of dodge and get hit by an overhead

[jaunty shuttle]

At what difficulty lvl i'll start to have problems if i can't dodge? Because it seems to be ok on heresy

[lime idol]

Wdym by having problems

Like

Going down?

[jaunty shuttle]

Like constantly dying and going down

[vocal nacelle]

When director lock on to you

[patent jasper]

the problem is you’re getting netted and dogged

[lime idol]

Tbh

If ur not dodging

[jaunty shuttle]

and how is that a problem if most of randoms i play with are coperative and we stick with each other?

[lime idol]

That means ur prob hit trading

[jaunty shuttle]

So we help each other

[lime idol]

And hit trading doesn’t work as soon as u get into even Heresy high intensity

[patent jasper]

Because there will always be times where stuff goes bad and suddenly your team gets cut off from you

[jaunty shuttle]

By high intensity you mean moments when bosses or hordes spawn?

[lime idol]

No

Missions can spawn with a modifier called high intensity

Marked with a symbol of Λ

[jaunty shuttle]

Am i also supposed to stop tanking hordes that i kill with melee using build with extra toughness regen?

[lime idol]

Wdym by tanking horde

Are you hit trading with enemies

[vocal nacelle]

Feel like you are describing shield ogryn brick build

[jaunty shuttle]

Well yeah, when horde spawns i just usually start casually hit trading with enemies

[lime idol]

Ok, start by learning to not hit trade

There’re enemies specifically designed to counter that (ragers)

[jaunty shuttle]

They alwasy get staggered when i hit them with pickaxe

Same goes for maulers or other heavy melee hitting elites

[lime idol]

Yes ogryn weapons are good at stagger & cleave

But you might not have that available on other classes

[jaunty shuttle]

I do see that i should learn how to dodge dogs, muties and nests, there's no reason to don't do so

[lime idol]

Psyker is notably horrid at melee stagger

[jaunty shuttle]

Well, i guess i should start learning how to dodge instead of throwing rock at charging mutie/dog then

[vocal nacelle]

You can dodge sniper shot, avoid poxbuster damage, crusher overhead

[lime idol]

Throwing rock at mutant is fine

[vocal nacelle]

Chaos spawn command grab

[jaunty shuttle]

I can dodge poxbuster dmg?

[vocal nacelle]

Shove + dodge back

[jaunty shuttle]

That would be my issue, i only tried dodging it

[vocal nacelle]

Can dodge Plasma gunner shot too

[patent jasper]

They are extremely vulnerable to any stagger while they’re jumping

[lime idol]

It’s more to do with like, in higher diffs u can get mixed horde spam like this and hit trading becomes immensely detrimental

[jaunty shuttle]

I don't remember poxbuster jumping? Or were you talking about dogs?

[patent jasper]

The little leap they do before exploding

During that time basically everything staggers them

even your pushes

[lime idol]

Also a lot of enemies have atks u rly want to dodge

Crusher & mauler overhead

Boss atks for the most part

[jaunty shuttle]

i would never try to do hit trading on anyone else than ogryn with some toughness perks anyway

I expected him to be sort of tank so i was just standing there

[lime idol]

Even on ogryn it’s not a good idea to hit trade in the higher diffs

[patent jasper]

Ogryn even has the advantage of his dodges staggering trash mobs

[jaunty shuttle]

Would i not need to change my weapon or at least mark if i won't be supposed to be hit trading anymore as ogryn? Since i'm playing with heaviest pickaxe

[patent jasper]

No change of weapon needed, just start dodging left or right before or during each swing

[lime idol]

No, dodge is supposed to be an intuitive thing

[jaunty shuttle]

I'll start learning it while playing as class not suitable for hit trading, maybe that will force me to dodge

[polar forum]

play vet

you'll be down in 2 hits

[jaunty shuttle]

i picked psyker, i spent 15 minutes trying to find suitable face for female character

[lime idol]

Dodge + toughness management is crucial to not kissing the floor

[jaunty shuttle]

Actually, i did not finish yet

[vocal nacelle]

psyker is fine, 3 poxbuster

[jaunty shuttle]

i don't like any of female faces available for psyker

[patent jasper]

I mean none of the faces are meant to be gorgeous it is a grimdark future after all

[jaunty shuttle]

What do you mean? My ogryn is cute as hell

I even gave him outfit without footwear

[vocal nacelle]

[jaunty shuttle]

This game definitely lacks some goofy clothes btw, everything is either mid or something that tries to look ultra edgy/cool

[vocal nacelle]

grimdark 40k

[jaunty shuttle]

Yeah, i believe that fighting without any shoes is grimdark

[vocal nacelle]

and the character technically the bottom barrel

ex convict

[jaunty shuttle]

Ogryn has slippers made partly from some bolts

This is pure fashion

Oh, i can even have Heihachi haircut

ABout weapons - am i supposed to save credits for weapons from requisitorium? Since they seem to always have higher starting stats and cap for stats (probably due to higher power lvl)

[vocal nacelle]

doesnt matter, you can upgrade the stat later

[polar forum]

though before level 30 you should just use whatever

don't bother rolling for shit until you hit 30

[vocal nacelle]

you never see director spit out this comp in heresy?

[jaunty shuttle]

I skipped prologue as psyker and looks like i can't even access training option until i do some mission, i wanted to know how psyker works, lmao

[vocal nacelle]

pay the barber 50K and select skip the campaign

[jaunty shuttle]

I skipped campaign

[vocal nacelle]

then just talk to sefoni

[patent jasper]

Meatgrinder opens op lvl 2

[jaunty shuttle]

She did not spawn, i was still forced to do one mission

[vocal nacelle]

bruh

[jaunty shuttle]

I was constantly going down as psyker even on first difficulty, even though i was (trying) to doge even trash mobs

I can see myself as peak psyker player in future

[patent jasper]

Psyker plays like any other of the human sized classes but he can also use peril, which is a meter that goes up to 100% and if you go over you go down instantly, however they’re really strong

[jaunty shuttle]

Where is my 300 health and 100 toughness? 😭

[jaunty shuttle]

What do you mean i go down instantly? I once managed to use a few skills while being in 100%

I got to 100% then i kept using my "grenade" skill

[patent jasper]

Just know that you shouldn’t cast at 100

Wuell down before casting again or let it decay naturally

[jaunty shuttle]

Ty, what's even warp attack? I found a few answers on reddits/steam but they seem to contradict with each other

[patent jasper]

warp attack is generally stuff that costs peril

[jaunty shuttle]

I thought that as psyker i'm going to be some kind of mage who is constantly attacking from range using some kind of "magic" or "psy" power

[patent jasper]

That is a way to play but not the only one

Melee psyker is really strong too

[jaunty shuttle]

Do i need staves to do this kind of playstyle?

[patent jasper]

If you’re going to play mostly ranged it is recommended you bring a staff just for synergy with a lot of nodes and the fact it’s infinite ammo, so you don’t have to battle your team to get more ammo

[jaunty shuttle]

[jaunty shuttle]

I'm disappointed with dmg of first staff i unlocked but i guess later ones are better

[lime idol]

yes psyker is the ranged class
with that said, psyker is so op that the melee spec route still does ludicrous dmg

[jaunty shuttle]

Also - could you guys give me some proper descriptions explaining into what kind of playstyle every blitz fit?

[lime idol]

brain rupture = take kinetic flayer for passive dmg proc
smite = crowd control when you can't dps check immediately
assail = fast sustained attacks that do less dmg but are more flexible

[jaunty shuttle]

Ty, do attacks from staves (besides melee) count as warp strikes? I can't seem to trigger battle meditation with attacks from staves

[vocal nacelle]

no

[lime idol]

if the attack looks blue, it's a warp atk

[vocal nacelle]

peril goes up = warp attack

[jaunty shuttle]

Projectiles from staves increase peril

[vocal nacelle]

yes thats warp attack

[jaunty shuttle]

OH, so brain rupture and kinetic flayer is how some psykers were killing elites with one shot from their staves. This ability looks cool

And heavy melee with weapon using "warp charge" could probably one shot bulwark/crushers if i trigger kinetic flayer alongside it, as long as i've strong melee weapon

[jaunty shuttle]

Is that me or charged special attack of electrokinetic force staff is kinda useless?

[stoic locust]

what the staff bonk

Its really weird

The sweep has like 23 cleave and the bonk can get a burgle to spit a swallowed player

[jaunty shuttle]

No, i mean its secondary fire that you get while using "zoom" button, not the special attack

Voidblast has good aoe damage on charged attack, but electrokinetic staff has poor dmg on its charged attack

[stoic locust]

Its good when you aren't super low level

EK and Trauma (voidblast) suck at low levels

[vocal nacelle]

all weapon suck on early game (not leveled)

[jaunty shuttle]

Is there any situation where i would be willingly using brain rupture after unlocking kinetic flyer? I feel like i can outdamage my brain rupture just by spamming shots from staff and i will gain similar amount of peril.

[vocal nacelle]

double shield + empowered psionic build

there's brain burst focus build

[jaunty shuttle]

What do you mean by double shield?

[stoic locust]

Walls instead of bubble

[balmy moat]

though something like scriers would be far more beneficial than wall shields

wall shields dont really... work

[jaunty shuttle]

I'm still thinking what i should even take as my ability

[balmy moat]

snipers, far away gunners, something you want to kill and take cover from, something thats running away, etc